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Bjutiful, da citiram Dada Polumentu.

Зар није Капетан Снуке најавио (на крају филма) да и Кајла чека третман; вјероватно није био довољно генерик да се уклопи у остатак филма.

Најављена је завршна фаза обуке...
Има да га потпуно мејковерују, да још више личи на ђеда.

hit komentar by frikšou-kripšou SLAVA:
('slava' je jedna juzerka sa foruma art-anima - pitam se samo, juzerka ČEGA?)

"Filmovi iz serijala 'Ratovi zvezda' su, po mom laičkom mišljenju, u mnogo čemu problematični. Eto na primer stormtruperi (stormtroopers). Dovoljno je setiti se nemačkih vojnika šturmera (koliko je umetnički pravac 'Sturm und Drang' imao negativan uticaj na razvoj dogadjaja u Nemačkoj je jedna velika tema za stručnjake, a ne laike). Ko su bili šturmeri tj. jurišnici? Sama reč govori da su to bili vojnici koji su se sa velikim žarom, olujno bacali u borbu i ubijali sve živo što im se nadje na putu. Ako treba, srljali su u smrt, svoj život su žrtvovali za vodju, za ideju. Dakle, može se pretpostaviti da je ideja za stormtrupere potekla od šturmera.
Jedna vojna operacija na području bivše Jugoslavije je nosila naziv 'Oluja'. Ta 'Oluja' je oduvala stotine hiljada ljudi sa područja na kojem su vekovima živeli. Ne, nisu to bili 'Ratovi zvezda', ratne bajke za malu decu, već istinit tragični dogadjaj u kojem su nedužni ljudi ubijani, proterivani, kuće su spaljivane, životi su uništavani.
Zato hvala lepo na 'Ratovima zvezda'. To što su ratovi zvezda ne znači da su različiti od ratova na Zemlji. Kao zvezde, pa je to nešto fantastično. Da se malo zafarba."

Slava  meni zvuči kao parodija na SJW internet juzere, taj neki do besmisla ekstrapoliran feminizam i antimilitarizam, barem po ono malo Art Anima topika koje sam pogledao.

Mada je valjda jasno da je Imperija aluzija na treći rajh (u Epizodi VII ima jedna nacrtaćemo-za-najneobrazovanije-među-gledaocima scena) a stormtruperi očigledna i vizuelna i bihejvioralna parodija na nemačke vojnike onako kako ih je prikazivala angloamerička kinematografija u decenijama posle drugog svetskog rata.

Quote from: zoskodibuk (hipoteticki): odgledala sam komediju, slutila sam da je saljiva, nema jeze, hahaha, koji kreteni.

Ic fani koz ic cru.

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 22-12-2015, 13:45:55
Slava  meni zvuči kao parodija na SJW internet juzere

optimistično-humanistički duh u susretu s ovakvom pojavom automatski pomišlja da mora da se radi o pozi, konstruktu, parodiji - ukratko, uzvišenom umu koji se dobro zajebava.

avaj, ne.
ne bih rekao.

pored ovoga što se vidi na animi, i meni je slala neke mejlove sa bizarnim teorijama, i 'vezama' koje je samo ona primetila, i nekim sumanutim 'tumačenjima'... vezanim za horor (u koji se, po sopstvenom priznanju, ne razume).

Quote from: дејан on 22-12-2015, 11:16:25
перине, из неког волшебног разлога, код мене твоји постови изгледају као кад ставим неког на 'игнор' плус сваки има поруку 'администратора' - 'овај ник много нервира' ?!!?!

Stvarno ne znam. To je administratorska zavera protiv mene!!!! :-\

EDIT:

Ukoliko nekom smetaju spojleri, onda ne treba ni da overava ovu temu. Mislim, čemu tema ako se o njoj ne može pričati?

Ali rwšićemo problem tako što neću postovati na ovoj temi više.

I sorry zbog spojlera, ali ne overavajte temu ako film niste pogledali. Takođe, ne smatram da sam uopšte spojlerovao - nisam pričao pta se dešava u filmu nego samo utiske o istom.  Ali ok, nema veze, neću više smetati

Poslano sa mog SM-N910C koristeći Tapatalk

citam, ne vjerujem, ali ne cudi. stormtroopers = sturmtruppen? pa stvarno, surprise... 

Quote from: Dybuk on 22-12-2015, 13:51:53

Quote from: zoskodibuk (hipoteticki): odgledala sam komediju, slutila sam da je saljiva, nema jeze, hahaha, koji kreteni.

Ic fani koz ic cru.

Quote from: Perin on 22-12-2015, 14:43:00
Ukoliko nekom smetaju spojleri, onda ne treba ni da overava ovu temu. Mislim, čemu tema ako se o njoj ne može pričati?

Ali rwšićemo problem tako što neću postovati na ovoj temi više.

I sorry zbog spojlera, ali ne overavajte temu ako film niste pogledali. Takođe, ne smatram da sam uopšte spojlerovao - nisam pričao pta se dešava u filmu nego samo utiske o istom.  Ali ok, nema veze, neću više smetati

Ne preterujmo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ima da učestvuješ na temi i da DOPRINESEŠ diskusiji

ja stvarno nemam pojma kako se pojavilo ovo kod Perina.
Proveriću sa Zakom, možda on nešto isprobava...

I kod mene isto, a Perina nisam stavio na ignore jer je dobar momak. To je neki hakerski upad.

Ja sam mislio da Perin koristi neke napredne tehnike za sakrivanje poruka kojr sadrže spojlere, i baš hteo da pitam kako to čini, kad ono zavera administratora

edit: niko nije spominjao nikakav problem, pa nema potrebe ni rešavati ga, posebno ne izostajanjem Perina iz diskusije.

Pitanje je kome se dopao film, a kome nije? Meni se nije dopala cena kokica. Jebeš kokice koje su skuplje od ulaznice.


Meni je sjajna nova ženska u filmu, činjenica je da su pokupili sve aktere prvih epizoda koje su mogli. Novi muškići mi se i nisu dopali. Naročito onaj s početka filma. Bezbojan tip. I, film vredi svaki cent koji smo dali za njega. Osim za kokice.  

A ovo je tim bez fotografa:

drim tim...

Da li  se klincima dopao film?

Moja ćerka je pucala od sreće. Ko Meho. Tu sam i ja pokleknuo u sceni kad su se pojavila "ona dvojica". Cure, imaju po 13. godina, malo su bile rezervisane. Potpuno novo iskustvo ih pomalo ostavlja ravnodušnim. Bela (11.g.) je gledao film kao okoreli fan. Čitao je ranije neke sveske o SW, mislim i da je skicirao neku svoju priču na tu temu.

Quote from: Ghoul on 22-12-2015, 13:28:38
hit komentar by frikšou-kripšou SLAVA:
('slava' je jedna juzerka sa foruma art-anima - pitam se samo, juzerka ČEGA?)

"Filmovi iz serijala 'Ratovi zvezda' su, po mom laičkom mišljenju, u mnogo čemu problematični. Eto na primer stormtruperi (stormtroopers). Dovoljno je setiti se nemačkih vojnika šturmera (koliko je umetnički pravac 'Sturm und Drang' imao negativan uticaj na razvoj dogadjaja u Nemačkoj je jedna velika tema za stručnjake, a ne laike). Ko su bili šturmeri tj. jurišnici? Sama reč govori da su to bili vojnici koji su se sa velikim žarom, olujno bacali u borbu i ubijali sve živo što im se nadje na putu. Ako treba, srljali su u smrt, svoj život su žrtvovali za vodju, za ideju. Dakle, može se pretpostaviti da je ideja za stormtrupere potekla od šturmera.
Jedna vojna operacija na području bivše Jugoslavije je nosila naziv 'Oluja'. Ta 'Oluja' je oduvala stotine hiljada ljudi sa područja na kojem su vekovima živeli. Ne, nisu to bili 'Ratovi zvezda', ratne bajke za malu decu, već istinit tragični dogadjaj u kojem su nedužni ljudi ubijani, proterivani, kuće su spaljivane, životi su uništavani.
Zato hvala lepo na 'Ratovima zvezda'. To što su ratovi zvezda ne znači da su različiti od ratova na Zemlji. Kao zvezde, pa je to nešto fantastično. Da se malo zafarba."

boze, kakavih ljudi ima...
lukas je samo ostvario svoj decacki san, fantaziju...neko snimi film...neko napravi kućicu na drvetu....

Već je počelo snimanje epizode VIII.

Critics of 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' blast new film – here's what they said

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December 2015 will forever be remembered as the month where Star Wars hysteria reigned supreme. The recent release of Star Wars: The Force Awakens has set innumerable box office records already and will likely break many more in the weeks and months to come.
Directed by JJ Abrams, the new Star Wars film has resonated with fans of the franchise in a way that the prequels did not. Anchored by a wave of nostalgia, the excitement for the latest Star Wars installment is palpable; hardly a surprise as fans have been eagerly awaiting a film that finally does the original trilogy justice.

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But not everyone is on board with the avalanche of praise currently draping Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Though most reviews have been overwhelmingly positive, there are quite a few people who found the film disappointing for a variety of reasons. If you are one of these people, rest assured, you are not alone. In the interest of keeping things balanced, we thought we'd counter the seemingly endless stream Star Wars praise and highlight a few of the more interesting negative reviews to have emerged over the last week.
Perhaps not surprisingly, many of the more negative takes on the film harp on the fact that it didn't tread much new ground and essentially presented the same type of story arc we've seen before. Warning! Some spoilers ahead.
The Patriot Ledger
"The Empire strikes out in J.J. Abram's overhyped "Star Wars" reboot, "The Force Awakens." At least somebody "awakens" in this dull, derivative money grab in which wunderkind J.J. Abrams chooses to go where George Lucas has gone before by basically repeating plot points, even lines, from the original trilogy. At least it's not as bad as the last three episodes, I-III. And thank God, there's no Jar Jar Binks. But where's the originality? The innovation? Surprising, given Abrams track record with rejuvenating aging franchises like "Star Trek" and "Mission Impossible." With "The Force Awakens," he simply gives the people what they want, which is more of the same.
If that's all you desire or expect, you'll be pleased. But, silly me I was anticipating something new and different in the way of story and characters. The only thing that's an upgrade is the quality of the special effects, which are spectacular. The rest is just rehash."
Slant Magazine
"But The Force Awakens is still more or less a fetish object, a film that exists to inspire phrases like "It feels like Star Wars again" ad nauseam from a fanbase that equates the lasting impact of Lucas's prequels as something akin to PTSD."
Salon
"For better or worse — and here's where my hoodie-wearing friend's thought experiment comes in – "The Force Awakens" is more like a remake or a mashup of the first two "Star Wars" pictures than a sequel. Yes, in technical terms Abrams and co-writers Lawrence Kasdan and Michael Arndt are picking up the narrative some 30 years after the destruction of the Galactic Empire at the end of "Return of the Jedi." But they barely even pretend to advance the story of the initial trilogy; they rewind it and repeat it, with new characters substituting for old ones but many of the same action set-pieces, narrative dilemmas and hidden connections."
North Shore Movies
"STAR WARS EPISODE VII: THE FORCE AWAKENS is the "Star Wars" movie you think you've been waiting for. It's everything you've ever wanted from one of these pictures, and also a heck of a lot less. A lean, mean nostalgia-dispensing machine, the movie is designed to ring bells and elbow you in the ribs with familiar sights and faces constantly as it hurtles from scene to scene at a breakneck pace. It's sleekly engineered to be the kind of film you point at and nod in appreciation–because you remember "Star Wars," and those memories are quite fond. Abrams gets the tricky tone and jokey exhilaration down pat, the feeling of (re)visiting a rusted-out, slightly sarcastic fairy tale. Still, a few hours after the credits rolled it's all evaporating and I'm struggling to recall a remotely original or inventive moment in the entire goddamn thing."
Time
"And yet The Force Awakens adds up to something less than the sum of its parts. The early scenes have a relaxed, assured pace. But as the story moves forward, Abrams becomes more mired in the task of keeping the plot mechanics in gear. There's the expected climactic battle between X-wing starfighters and TIE fighters, which is mildly exciting and nothing more—the fact that it's punctuated with dumb dialogue like "General! Their shields are down!" "Prepare to fire!" and even the classic, "It would take a miracle to save us now," surely doesn't help. And the movie's big twist, clearly intended to be a moment of Shakespearean grandeur, is handled clumsily: Instead of allowing a significant figure to have his grand moment, Abrams cuts to other characters expressing shock and dismay, as if he didn't trust the audience to know what to feel."Movie Nation
"The effects are sharper, 40 years more developed. Why does Abrams do so little to show them off? The chases, dogfights and set-piece battles are static and recycled. The Big Pause for a Big Death is just an eye-roller.
Even the aliens are oh-so-familiar, right down to Admiral "It's a trap!" Ackbar.
The earliest reviews of this are all glowing, as indeed they were for this past summer's "Jurassic Park" clone — "Jurassic World." This will certainly make billions. "Brand" above all, right?
But "The Force Awakens" boils down to a couple of genuine lump-in-the-throat moments, and those are due to nostalgia. The rest? Seen it, done it, been there, and remember it — even though it was "a long time ago.""
And a few audience reviews via Rotten Tomatoes.

JJ Abrams brings the action, but as usual, he does not bring a well paced story. He is chronology impaired, and seems to believe that the Galaxy is the size of a closet. There is little character development, little rationalization for the events that take place and no sense of travel times across an immense galaxy. Untrained people fight a Sith Lord with a lightsaber successfully, and none of it makes sense. Visually stunning, mentally numbing.

As expected, this review also calls out JJ Abrams for not coming up with an original plot.

The movie didn't spend any time actually delving into a plot. All the time was allocated to fan service callbacks, out of place "funny" moments, throwing around dozens of new and useless characters, and stolen plot from A New Hope. I didn't see this as a new Star Wars movie, but more like a 2 hour long, $200 million dollar advert Disney paid for in order to try and get people to watch the next 2+ movies. Such a wasted opportunity.

And another:

Well acted and visually impressive, but the entire recycled-from-Episode-IV story line falls apart close to a dozen times unless major characters don't find exactly who and what they need at exactly the right times.
The story writers seem to have put together a check-list of their top nostalgia-baiting moments and strung them together with contrived encounters that could have happened anywhere in a wide universe, but conveniently happened in such a way that newcomers Rey and Fin can take a tour of Episode IV's highlights in the span of 2 hours and change.
Disney and Abrams seem to have forgotten that, despite the shortcomings of The Phantom Menace and its follow-up films, we thoroughly enjoyed being transported to a galaxy far, far away where there were new creatures, starships, and ways to wage intergalactic war each time.
Those who revel in the ground-breaking creativity that we are used to seeing from new Star Wars installments will certainly be disappointed with Episode VII, while those looking for a nostalgia trip will be impressed easily enough.

And two more for good measure:

A dead rip off of the original movie, Episode 4. From the crappy looking infinity CG roll opening sequence, bar scene and light sabre fights to a janitor identifying a weakness in the battle star, this movie is chock full of inside jokes and tired ideas. The only redeeming grace for this movie is a solid performance by Harrison Ford as Han Solo and a compelling performance by Daisy Ridley as Rey who represents the resurrection of the Jedi. Fun to watch and full of action, but there are numerous dead spots and far too much nod to the Star Wars wonks of yesteryear.

And to close things out:

(SPOILERS) Very token. It introduces some truly great characters dripping with personality and motivation (Fin, BB-8) alongside the single worst character in Star Wars history (Kylo Ren) who looks terrible, acts badly, and takes his helmet off too often to reveal his shockingly ugly face. Bringing back the original cast actually worked this time around, Solo in particular being an absolute beast and central to the plot. But about 2/3 of the way in, they just bring in the biggest deus ex machina around for a "mega threat" and then decide to kill solo with no fanfare and no reason. The music is easily John Williams' worst ever (and I have adored every score he's ever done until this one) and why does this random, untrained force sensitive girl suddenly learn how to do a Jedi Mind trick by simply repeating the same phrase three times? She didn't even know the jedi existed, why would she think this would work? Why can she hold her own against Kylo Ren, a trained jedi/sith with a sword she's never held before?
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Dialogue was above average, cinematography was great, but the last third of the movie was a horribly massive let-down that killed any interest the first two thirds had built. Worth watching? sure. But the tone is definitely not Star Wars, the villain was godawful, the "quintouple death star" was ridiculous, and overall it just gave the star wars fan in me an irritating little headache with all the fantastic lore that disney could have used, but decided to axe for reasons that solely seem to be for financial gains. And I hate Kylo's lightsaber. It looks wrong, sounds wrong, everything.

If you weren't feeling the new Star Wars flick, well, I guess you're definitely not alone

Kakav idiotski naslov gorecitiranog članka... :-X

Godinama unatrag kolektiram sve moguce StarWars animirane serije.
Toliko toga je imalo da se pozajmi i rebutuje, cak i LEGO StarWars je fantastican, ako ne i najbolji danas u exploataciji franshize.

U ovom filmu jedino mi ne smeta Rey.Ona je ,srce malo, nesto sto sam vec vido u stripovima StarWars, dakle odatle je pozajmljena (Jaina Solo iz Legacy2), i Ako je, tamo mi se svidjala, svidja mi se i ovde.
Sve ostalo...pfff...Clone Wars animacije su tatko za ovo!

guten morgen und frohe weihnachten

Ima se, može se.

Naravno!
Lilita iz d best!
Podseti me sad da jedino od stripova samoinicijativno pratim,
bez da citam preporuke su Star Wars Darth Vader.
Extra su!
..pored Lego, jedino vredno danas...
Odlican je i novi Marvelov Star Wars serijal.

Quote from: Kunac on 25-12-2015, 12:38:08
Ima se, može se.

ima, ima. čak se i kolačići spremaju

o bre, zamrla tema. spremam se da ga pogledam još jednom a u međuvremenu rubrika: ima se, može se. 5 evra sve tri, nova godina, živeo kapitalizam, viva gejming.

Ništa Rej, ništa Fin... Držiš se proverenih vrednosti...

nema (pravog) obi-wana ni za lek

Ovde je nemoguće napisati više rečenica o filmu ili knjizi. Odmah ti neko zafrljači kamen u glavu. Mogu samo da dodam da je kompleks Star Wars u fazi restauracije početnog zdanja. Moraju da se skinu naslage loše nanesenog maltera i farbe u ranijoj fazi (Epizode I-III) i pripremi prostor za nastavke. Ja ovo čisto organizaciono na temu. Početna klimavoća od teze "Dobro po svaku cenu" i "Zlo po svaku cenu" je i dalje prisutna i biće još dugo balast. Izvode se iz serije stari likovi, a novi baš i nisu neki. Kylo Ren je bolji kostim nego lik, pa će tu tek biti deljanja. Fin (Šin?) je izvučen kao peta karta u pokeru; mora da bude tu zbog brojanja. Bio je tu neki, s početka, pa se pojavio negde s kraja. Ne znam kako je promakao u brisanju gumicom. Dakle, moj pazar je samo Rej. Ali, sama u priči tih razmera? Teško.


Odavde nosim Kylo Rena, da mi se dete raduje, a unuku nisam kupio Kaljovu crvenu kajlu iako mi je visio na rukavu. 35$ je mnogo za tu crvenu motku.

Moj pazar: Rej, Maz, Po, Huks, Fazma i BB-8.

i moj pazar je samo rej
nisu smeli od kajla da naprave onolikog paćenika
fin je tu politkor
leja, nadam se, neće imati preveliku ulogu u nastavcima
nadu polažem i u luka (sreća pa nije ni "a" progovorio), još kad bi i delovao kao obi-wan a ne samo izgledao tako, srce bi mi bilo puno
premda je i obi-wan seronja, kad se malo dublje ode u filozofiju
u svakom slučaju, radujem se repeticiju u imaxu, sredina sredine i naćosima sa prelivom od sira

što se tiče moje bolesti, evo još jednog priloga ...samo jooš ratluk da nađem

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 George Lucas Says He Sold 'Star Wars' to 'White Slavers'

 to je problem sa njim, čovek je TXH1138... mrzi ih sve, establishment i odela i sad pizdi na sebe sto se ipak na kraju prodao.

a ja još nešto zamišljam da su ga plus majorly odjebali nakon prodaje... mora da su mu pričali "samo se opusti džordzi, daj nama da brinemo o tehnikalijama i produkciji, šta ce ti to u životu... mi ćemo tebe uvek da pitamo za sve. šta? već imas predloške za epizodu 7,8 i 9? radio si na njima 'dvajes' godina kažes? divno, divno. da, daj nam. marvel™ous džordži! da da, sve ćemo to da upotrebimo."
i onda trt... fak ju džordž, ono sranje su bacili u pećnicu i spalili i on sada pizdi.

naravoučenije...

A Not-So-Brief History of George Lucas Talking Shit About Disney's Star Wars

taman tako

Već se izvinuo...

Quote from: lilit on 30-12-2015, 16:40:47
i moj pazar je samo rej
nisu smeli od kajla da naprave onolikog paćenika
fin je tu politkor
leja, nadam se, neće imati preveliku ulogu u nastavcima
nadu polažem i u luka (sreća pa nije ni "a" progovorio), još kad bi i delovao kao obi-wan a ne samo izgledao tako, srce bi mi bilo puno
premda je i obi-wan seronja, kad se malo dublje ode u filozofiju
u svakom slučaju, radujem se repeticiju u imaxu, sredina sredine i naćosima sa prelivom od sira

Lili, sad te nakon ovoga jos vise volim!
Srecna ti i Nova Godina, tebi i tvojoj familiji!

Quote from: Ugly MF on 01-01-2016, 03:39:48
Lili, sad te nakon ovoga jos vise volim!
Srecna ti i Nova Godina, tebi i tvojoj familiji!

the feeling in mutual
srećna vam nova godina i samo dobre stvari da vam se dešavaju!

http://kotaku.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-minus-the-movie-stars-the-1750573193

Naš drugar Monja/Cornelius nije oduševljen:
BUĐENJE SILE I VELIKE LOVE

Monja je neki privatni nadimak?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NXu_2xqSFg

Quote from: Boban on 02-01-2016, 01:09:24
Naš drugar Monja/Cornelius nije oduševljen:

Star Wars nije Rat i Mir.
Jeste, zaradili su basnoslovno.
Epizoda 7 je shit za svakog ko je stariji od 12 godina  i ko je procitao bar dve ozbiljne knjige i gledao Odiseju (lol), ali je super za ljude koji imaju dete u sebi i koji mogu na trenutak da se effin isključe.
Epizoda 7 je SUPER za novu decu i za njih je pravljena.

U vakuumu koji je nastao nemanjem proper Star Warsa, koji nije neka politička kritika nego priča o drugarstvu i borbi dobra i zla, nastale su takve blasfemije koje su dobile gladnu publiku (novu decu) kao sto su:
- Hunger Games
- Insurgent
- Twilight
- a i onaj shitty Harry Potter.

E zato mi je milo em drago da se kralj vratio, pa makar bio u rukama Beelzebuba.

Pozdravi Kornelijusa 

Quote from: Cedo Medo on 02-01-2016, 01:37:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NXu_2xqSFg

Misliš da si duhovit... mnogima ovde ideš na živce, a meni je kratak fitilj ovih dana pa mi se bolje uklanjaj iz vidokruga.