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Quote from: CorwinM on 09-02-2016, 12:57:43
Sa ogromnom pažnjom ovih dana pratim predizbornu kampanju u Americi. Dešava se po prvi put nešto bez presedana - jasno se definišu dva politička pola. S jedne strane imamo veoma jadne republikance, sa Donaldom Trampom koji i dalje vodi u istraživanjima javnog mnjenja. Donald je inače bio smiješan lik, ali je sada shvatio da može da se bavi politikom nudeću Amerikancima retoriku koja najviše podsjeća na, pa, Šešelja. Naravno, natečeni tajkun bi imao mnogo toga da uči o manipulaciji masama od Šekija, ali je jasno da njegova retorika privlačna neobrazovanim i ljutitim masama - što užasno podsjeća na neku situaciju na Balkanu. A u njegove stavove spada javno zagovaranje podizanje zidova i zabranu ulaska u SAD muslimanima, najava još gorih "taktika" mučenja prema ratnim zarobljenicima, otvorena mizoginija, histerična vriska da su izbori pokradeni nakon poraza u Ajovi i slično.


Ostali kandidati u republikanskoj stranci su takođe čemer i jad. Trenutno je najozbiljniji kandidat senator iz Teksasa Ted Kruz za kojeg je u više navrata dokazano da je lažov, jedan smutljivac čiji stavovi uopšte ne odudaraju od Trampovih (zapravo je još i gori, ako uzmemo u obzir stav prema LGBT), i koji svaki predizborni skup počinje molitvom. Ovo zadnje ga je dovelo da pobijedi u Ajovi, uprkos velikoj prednosti koju je Tramp imao.


Treći kandidat kod Republikanaca je Marko Rubio koji bi trebalo da bude "umjereni" Republikanac i čija podrška u poljednje vrijeme raste. Međutim, Marko Rubio jednostavno nema harizmu, nije tip "pravog vođe", a u posljednje vrijeme se ozbiljno dovode u pitanje njegovi nervi i intelektualne sposobnosti. Naime, ako se neko vidno unervozi i trese tokom debate, kako će se ponašati usred ozbiljne krize? Nakon posljednjeg nastupa donator su odjednom zatvorili novčanike i novac već predviđen za Rubija odlučili da zadrže do daljnjeg.

Ostali kandidati su potpuni autsajderi i nemaju ozbiljne šanse da se kvalifikuju za opšte izbore.


I s druge strane, kod Demokrata, postaje veoma interesantno. Hilari Klinton, uz podršku većine glavara Demokratske stranke, njenog muža koji aktivno sudjeluje u kampanji sa njom (čak je i nama dobro poznata i omiljena Medlin Olbrajt govorila na tribini sa njom prije par dana), prethodno iskustvo, uz milione koje su sasute u njenu kampanju i ogromno lično bogatstvo - ona i Bil su od 2007 inkasirali preko 160 miliona zarade, dugo je bila apsolutni favorit. Osim toga, ona se oslanja na podršku žena da po prvi put u istoriji dođe do toga da se u Bijelu kuću usele Predsjednica i "Prvi džentlmen". Ali ne lezi vraže, izgleda da opet nije dovoljno. Malo je bilo što je Obama praktično išamarao 2008 iako su je svi smatrali za favorita.


Izuzetno simpatični čičica od 74 godine, senator iz Vermonta Berni Sanders, Jevrej sa bruklinškim akcentom i socijalista - sebe zove demokratom socijalistom - koji se relativno nedavno pridružio Demokratama i kojeg ne podržava gotovo nijedan kongresmen ili senator - izazvao je pravi zemljotres. Berni je bio potpuni autsajder, prije manje od godinu dana istraživanja su mu davala nešto oko 10% glasova, dok je za Hilari Klinton predviđano preko 60%. Prošlog vikenda su održani prvi unutrapartijski izbori, u Ajovi. Klintonova je "pobijedila" sa 49.9% prema 49.6%. Sljedeći je Nju Hempšir u kojem Berni ima značajnu prednost - trenutno 54% prema 42%.
Ono što je nevjerovatno za Bernija Sandersa, i što se dešava po prvi put u američkoj istoriji jeste način na koji se finansira njegova kampanja, a to je "crowdfunding". Samo u januaru njegova kampanja je prikupila preko tri miliona dolara. Prosječan iznos uplate - 27$. Donacije od velikih korporacija niti prima niti mu se nude. Zato što ih je proglasio neprijateljima i američke ekonomije, i što je još važnije, američke demokratije. Jer Berni postavlja veoma neprijatno pitanje koje se toliko rijetko čulo u javnom diskursu u Americi - ako ogromne korporacije uspu milione u kampanju za senatora, kongresmena ili predsjednika - koliko je ta osoba zaista nezavisna? Da li u tim kompanijama rukovode moroni koji tolike pare loše investiraju?


Prva stavka njegovog programa - zauzdati Vol Strit, strogo regulisati sa federalnog nivoa trgovinu akcijama. Najveće banke rasparčati i regulisati. On se zalaže i za to da pošte! daju Amerikancima male zajmove, kako ih private banke ne bi muzzle sa nenormalnim kamatama. Druga stavka - oporezovati debelo "gornji 1%", odnosno klasu milijardera. (Skoro je jedan Trampov glasač upao na Bernijevu konferenciju i počeo da viče. Berni je sa govornice staloženo odgovorio - evo jedne osobe zabrinute za Donalda Trampa i njegove milijarde!) Dalje, skoro duplirati minimalnu zaradu. Treće, Obamacare nije dovoljan. Besplatna zdravstvena zaštita treba da postane ljudsko pravo u Americi i tačka. U gotovo svakom intervjuu Berni podsjeća da je SAD jedina razvijena zemlja na planeti gdje ovo još nije uvedeno. Pa postavlja pitanje - ako Velika Britanija i Francuska ovo daju svojim građanima - je li to znači da te zemlje nisu demokratske?


Paradoksalno, Bernija koji ima 74 godine najviše podržavaju mladi, u toj populaciji on ima podršku po nekim istraživanjima od preko 80%. Razlog je u dobroj mjeri sljedeća "radikalna" tačka programa - besplatno studiranje na državnim univerzitetima i pomoć mladim ljudima da se oslobode kredita koje su digli za studiranje. Uz to, Berni se zalaže i za značajno smanjenje vojnog budžeta, ukazujući na to da se u tom sektoru ogroman novac i rasipa, umjesto da se racionalno troši, što niko ne preispituje. Što se spoljne politike tiče, njegov stav je gotovo izolacionistički - tu se podudara sa Trampom.


Sve ovo je veoma privlačno sve većem broju ljudi. Klintonovu očigledno hvata nervoza jer su lični napadi na njega sve učestaliji. Čak je na posljednjoj debati djelovala i pomalo histerično. Berni je za to vrijeme bio džentlmen, uzdržavajući se od ličnih kvalifikacija i uporno vraćajući diskusiju na problem i njihova rješenja. Iako je i dalje malo vjerovatno da će na kraju pobijediti Klintonovu - izbori u Nju Hempširu bi mogli da to promijene.


A što se tiče istraživanja javnog mnjenja, pokazuje se da često griješe. U Ajovi je Tramp bio izraziti favorit, pa je na kraju završio na jedva drugom mjestu.


Šta god da se na kraju desi, posljedice po cijeli svijet će biti značajne.

не знам одакле сакупљаш информације, ал према написаном да се приметити да претежу оне из медијских кућа (тј медијских делова мултинационалних компанија) које подржавају (значи и финансирају) демократе, првенствено хилари клинтон.
већина трампових изјава, филтрирана кроз те медије, је извучена из контекста, на веома тенденциозан начин и баш у циљу да се створи утисак 'либералној' америци да је он реакционарни десничар...што је ужасно далеко од истине. трамп је у најгору руку само популиста (тачно онолико колико су и обама-сандерс-клинтон само за део народа са другачијом парадигмом живота)
нисам стварно вољан да улазим у политичке расправе везане за америчке изборе али има неколико ствари на које се мора обратити пажња...сандерс још увек дебело заостаје за обаминим 'краудфандингом' који је достигао пола милијарде долара, само преко интернета...хилари клинтон, поред очајних резултата и скандала док је била државни секретар, се сматра лажовом и манипулантом (баш од стране сандерсових гласача) и практично кандидатом вол стрита. мајкрософт је други највећи финансијер марка рубиа (што је подстакло 'теорију завере о крађи избора') а прљава тактика која је изазвала трампову претњу да ће тужити рубиа због двосмислене објаве да је бен карсон изашао из изборне трке ставља под велики упитник његов добар резултат у ајови....
итд...итд...но једна ствар је непорецива, трамп и сандерс (за сада - кажем 'за сада' пошто је и обама кренуо из подређене позиције сакупљајући новац мимо уобичајених начина за америчку политику, али се велики капитал брзо окренуо њему (а обама га пригрлио) када је трка са клинтоновом ушла у финалну фазу а обама постао изгледни кандидат за победу код демократа) су најнезависнији кандидати које америка у овом тренутку може да изнедри из свог дубоко корумпираног система и волео бих (мада немам никакве наде да ће тако бити) да у будућности овакви кандидати не буду инцидентне појаве већ правило.

Meho i Dejane, hvala, nisam primjetio da postoji posebna tema.

Izvori za Trampa:
O muslimanima: CNN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz0r0CGW7ic
Tramp (i Kruz) o waterboardingu: Predsjednička debata: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u486WX1qHeQ
(I would bring waterboarding and hell of a worse than waterboarding)
Tramp mizoginija: FOX debata - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y9_LJj7A68
O imigraciji: opet FOX - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80cY76l-pMQ
Priznajem da uglavnom čitam "liberalne" medije, ali za sve ovo postoje klipovi na youtube, koga ne mrzi može da nađe bez problema izvorni materijal. Osim toga, u novinarstvu u civilizovanom svijetu, a Amerika to jeste, činjenice su neprikosnovene, komentar je slobodan. Tako da ne znam šta nije u redu sa informacijama koje sam iznio.


A što se tiče Šešelja, evo se u međuvremenu pojavi informacija da je podržao Trampa i pozvao Srbe da glasaju za njega:)

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/serbia-s-radical-party-chief-seselj-urges-support-for-donald-trump-01-04-2016

Potpuno jasno i logično.

I zamijenio si Rubija i Kruza, Tramp je prijetio da će tužiti Kruza koji je pobijedio u Ajovi (iako je istina da majkrosoft podržava Rubija):
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/trump-says-hell-probably-sue-over-iowa-results-accuses-cruz#.feAK6X6Y4
Lično, ja mislim da bi Hilari bila jednaka katastrofa za Ameriku kao i Tramp. Ni za jedno od njih ne bih volio da su igdje blizu "crvenog dugmeta". A ono što mi je fantastično jeste da je sad Hilari čija je taktika dosad bila da se predstavi kao "umjereni" demokrata kako bi zadobila dobar broj neopredjeljenih glasača i nezadovoljnih republikanaca,  zapravo primorana u posljednjih mjesec dana da dokazuje da je "progresivna". A da jeste kandidat Vol Strita, naravno da jeste, sve njih u ovoj trci su podržale ogromne korporacije, sa izuzetkom Sandersa. A nju Goldman Sachs, ni manje ni više, isplaćujući joj honorare od 250k$ za jednosatne nastupe.
U cijeloj ovoj priči, meni je najinteresantnije to što je očigledno došlo do preispitivanja trenutnog političkog sistema u glavama miliona ljudi. Sam Sanders je više puta izjavio da Americi treba da se pojave treća i četvrta partija.
I da, što se tiče crowdfundinga, kampanja je maltene tek počela. Sanders i dalje važi za autsajdera, a Obami su ozbiljne pare počele da pristižu tek nakon što je pobijedio u Ajovi i Nju Hempširu i kada su ljudi počeli da shvataju da zapravo ima šanse da pobijedi.

пардон за лапсус око рубиа-круза
само да не останем недоречен,
што се тиче путовања муслимана, у питању је оно што је урадила мађарска - а то је забрана уласка у државу, мени се чини да је то легитимно право сваке земље, поготову оне која је директно уплетена у сукоб - а  док траје сукоб (мада никада не бих подржао ту опцију, да се ја питам)...
што се тиче спочитаване мизогиније, ту се никако нећемо сложити, пошто ја политички коректан говор и начин размишљања презирем...а за мучење, па види, човек је рекао оно што су буш и обама већ одобрили и радили, то и јесте тај политички коректан свет који се згражава над изговореним док рукама дави, мучи и убија...не видим ту његов лични грех већ парадигму те сумануте земље.
такође, јасно је да се суштински разликујемо у посматрању америке, за мене је то банда нецивилизоване стоке упрегнуте у снажан војно-индустријски систем који је своје империјално лице све више отворено приказује последњих 25 година, пре којих је била колико толико ограничена биполарним распоредом снага, те мени не вреди расправљати око тога пошто је иста за тебе цивилизовани свет којем су чињенице неприкосновене а коментар слободан

Ali Amerika nije u ratu sa svim Muslimanima. Ako bi se zabranio ulaz svim muslimanima onda i neki Novopazarac odavde ne bi mogao da uđe. Čak i musliman iz Kanade. Totalno nema logike.

Baš me zanima kako je Mađarska sročila obrazloženje. Za koga je tu tačno granica zatvorena? Možda samo za izbeglice, tj. ljude koji nemaju pasoš?

чисто сумњам да је трамп мислио на традиционалне саудијске, емиратске пријатеље...ја сам то схватио као 'мађарско решење' (тј забрана уласка имигрантима) и наравно да је веома могуће да грешим

postoje li linkovi ili torenti za februarske emisije

ABC World News Tonight with David Muir

na piratu i kikesu samo dva dana pokrivena u februaru, tako da se nadam da ima neki drugi sajt...

zvanični ABC sajt dozvoljava gledanje samo na teritoriji SAD, tako da to otpada... youtube nema kompletne emisije... ima neki pod sajt, samo glas bez slike

kao da je Spilbergov film a ne dnevnik...

Bogami, u Nju Hempširu Sanders ostavio Hilari u prašini (i to koliko se za sada čini, ne za par procenata) a i Tramp suvereno pokido. 

Quote from: .!. on 10-02-2016, 03:16:59
postoje li linkovi ili torenti za februarske emisije

ABC World News Tonight with David Muir

na piratu i kikesu samo dva dana pokrivena u februaru, tako da se nadam da ima neki drugi sajt...

zvanični ABC sajt dozvoljava gledanje samo na teritoriji SAD, tako da to otpada... youtube nema kompletne emisije... ima neki pod sajt, samo glas bez slike

kao da je Spilbergov film a ne dnevnik...

Uđi na sajt preko proxy-ja koji ti skriva IP adresu ili je prikazuje kao američku.

Sanders je ubio Klintonovku, sad treba da se vidi šta to znači.

Kod Republikanaca, Tramp je, kao što Meho kaže, pokidao, dok je Marko(bot) pao na peto mjesto.  Na drugo mjesto je isplivao Kasič, koji je za privatizaciju zatvora, ukidanje prava na kolektivno pregovaranje radnicima, veliki je protivnik abortusa, koji je 100% podržao invaziju na Irak I tako dalje.

Mislim da se trenutno rukovodstvo i jedne i druge stranke hvata za glavu i pita šta da rade.

ne znači ništa, jer delegati se skupljaju sve do juna. To jest, Ajova i Nju Hempšir nose 5% delegata sveukupno, a pritom se dijele proporcionalno

ovaj Kejsik je iz Ohaja, a u Ohaju pobjednik nosi sve, izbori negdje u martu. U stvari, 1. marta najviše država glasa, i najviše delegata se određuje, ko tada razbije realan je kandidat

a tada glasaju sve sami Kruzovi evanđelisti. Sad će kandidati da se ubiju od religijske propagande i gaženja Kruza, već je pao

S druge strane, Klintonova je valjda 2008. dobila Obamu u Nju Hempširu, pa je opet izvisila za kandidaturu, što je još jedan pokazatelj da je trka tek počela

Inače, Švarceneger podržao Kejsika, moguće je da će njega Vašington da gura da ne bi ovi divlji republikanci dobili kandidaturu

misliš da može sa proksijem, ajd probaću...

Nisam mislio na direktne posljedice, jasno je da pobjeda u Nju Hempširu ne znači ništa u smislu delegate. Ali može da znači u simboličkom smislu, jer je Sanders u Ajovi i u Nju Hempširu dokazao da je ozbiljan kandidat, što može glasače širom Amerike navesti da ponovo razmisle o njemu. Cijela dosadašnja kampanja Klintovnove se bazirala na tome da je Sanders zapravo autsajder, pa kao takav ne bi imao nikakve šanse na opštim izborima (uprkos istraživanjima koja pokazuju suprotno!), a onda je Sanders raznese u Nju Hempširu, dok ga je i u Ajovi jedva pobijedila. Takođe, ova pobjeda znači puno i u smislu publiciteta. Ukratko postoji mogućnost da izazove jednu vrstu lančane reakcije, jer je i dalje veliki broj glasača neopredijeljen, a kad se radi o unutarpartijskim izborima trend je uvijek bio da se veliki broj ljudi predomisli u posljednji čas.

neće preko proksija, bar ovih sajtova, možda neki program da skinem

bez proksija lijepo vidim sličicu od videa (poput yt embedded ili kako već, youknowhatImean), kliknem na nju i obavijesti me da ne mogu da gledam izvan teritorije SAD

sa proksijem uopšte ne otvara tu sličicu, samo stoji sivi kvadrat tamo gdje bi trebalo da bude video, i to je to. Uopšte ne propušta video kroz proxy


EDIT: izgleda da je java prokleta...

ipak ništa, sem ako ne treba win8, pa sam totalno ispušio

koji moj je s ABC-jem, kad su ostale mreže dostupne... + imaju na YT najbudalastiju organizaciju klipova

Probaj preko gugl translejta, nekad upali.

Dupli post.

'Kissinger is not my friend'

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MILWAUKEE — On foreign policy, Bernie Sanders does not go after Hillary Clinton with policy precision; he attacks her credibility with red-meat heaves attractive to the liberal base.
In Thursday night's Democratic debate, Sanders repeated one of his trademark attacks — and one that worked for Barack Obama in 2008 against Clinton — that he opposed the Iraq War and she did not. But he went further in drawing a binary and philosophical contrast by reminding viewers of Clinton's comments from last week's debate, that she was "very flattered" to get praise from former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. Kissinger, who served under Pres. Richard Nixon and Pres. Gerald Ford, is maligned especially among Democrats for his handling of the Vietnam War and for leading a foreign policy that his critics believed undermined democratic governments around the world, while supporting dictatorships that promoted human rights violations.
And while the reference might not have resonated with the under-30 demographic that Sanders dominated in Iowa and New Hampshire, it was a reductive, symbolically potent bit for baby boomers who may be undecided or unsure of Clinton's overall worldview. It echoed criticism that emerged on liberal-leaning websites last week at the time of her original remarks.
"I am proud to say that Henry Kissinger is not my friend, and I will not take advice from him on foreign policy," Sanders said, calling him the "most destructive" secretary of state in American history
Sanders' team may have felt it missed an opportunity to hit Clinton on Kissinger when she brought up the controversial diplomat at last week's debate. But this time they were ready. In fact, the campaign issued a press release within seconds of the exchange, listing 13 "egregious acts" he committed in his tenure, including allegations of launching an illegal war in Cambodia and supporting apartheid in South Africa (later in the debate Clinton name-dropped the late South African president Nelson Mandela as one of the figures in politics she respected the most).
Clinton defended her interactions and comments on Kissinger by saying that as secretary of state she listened to a variety of voices and opinions, weighing some more than others. She also questioned whether Sanders takes foreign policy issues seriously, citing recent media reports that said the one aide he referred to as an adviser only had briefed him once.
"I don't know who you get your foreign policy advice from," Clinton quipped.
"Well, it ain't Henry Kissinger," Sanders replied.
It's unclear whether re-litigating American foreign policy from 40 years ago will resonate with voters, but Clinton and her campaign obviously believe foreign policy is her strength and any quick move towards that advantage is likely to frustrate the candidate and team who have prioritized showcasing her nuanced and broad grasp of issues she tackled as secretary of state.

A Washington Post ošinuo po Hilari:

The Democrats' dilemma: Clinton may not be salvageable

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Democrats who think Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is simply a stronger-than-expected sparring partner for Hillary Clinton may be in for a rude awakening. While the Republicans have their hands full navigating toward an alternative to Donald Trump, at least they have people in the race capable of doing so. Clinton, however, may be a dead-woman-walking, leaving the Democratic Party in the untenable position of nominating a socialist whose foreign and domestic policies are antithetical to the great majority of Americans.

Clinton's problems are threefold.

First and foremost, she has a serious legal problem, one that cannot be wished away by those indifferent to the facts. The FBI does not investigate and devote considerable resources for nothing. It does not lightly send a letter stating it is investigating a former high government official's use of an unsecured email. And someone (whether in the FBI, the Justice Department or some other corner of the administration) does not without good reason leak a story as damaging as this latest Fox News report:

At least a dozen email accounts handled the "top secret" intelligence that was found on Hillary Clinton's server and recently deemed too damaging for national security to release, a U.S. government official close to the review told Fox News.
The official said the accounts include not only Clinton's but those of top aides – including Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, Jake Sullivan and Philippe Reines – as well as State Department Under Secretary for Management Patrick Kennedy and others.
A second source not authorized to speak on the record said the number of accounts involved could be as high as 30 and reflects how the intelligence was broadly shared, replied to, and copied to individuals using the unsecured server.

This sort of rampant mishandling of classified material cannot be swept under the rug, no matter how much Democrats want to believe this is some political fuss cooked up by Republicans. Whoever is leaking the information seems determined to make sure the FBI and/or the Justice Department cannot evade their obligations to move forward, as they would with any staff person who engaged in this behavior.

[Hillary Clinton, blind to her own greed, makes another blunder]

In speaking with law professors, former Justice Department lawyers, former Hill staffers who have learned the rules regarding classified material and former national security officials, I have yet to find a single one who believes Clinton's legal risk is trivial. No, it is serious, and now so public that inaction becomes difficult for the FBI and the Justice Department.

The involvement of so many individuals raises the possibility, as any lawyer would know, that immunity will be granted in exchange for testimony, tightening the noose around Clinton. And that is just one of Clinton's problems.

Second, if the Democrats — as the Republicans have done with Trump — are waiting around for their voters to recognize how extreme and unelectable Sanders is, they are mistaken. The Democratic Party has fanned the flames of class warfare for so long, Sanders now sounds mainstream to them, and in a sense he is mainstream in a party that has vilified Wall Street, accumulated vast new power over segments of the economy (health care and financial services, for example) and no longer recognizes capitalism as a solution to poverty (despite worldwide evidence of such). Like the GOP, Democrats have indulged in protectionist hysteria in such a convincing fashion that Democrats have come to see trade as a threat and globalization as a negative. The president may not be as extreme as Sanders but his rhetoric has paved the way for Sanders. A president who ran up enormous debt, allowed entitlements to grow unchecked and characterizes most opposition to any government activity as evil or irrational can hardly be surprised when, after seven years, his supporters do not take budget math seriously. With seven years of a president who essentially ignored the multiplication of threats, no wonder Democrats put no weight on foreign policy acumen.

Third, Clinton is exactly the wrong person to stop the Sanders runaway train. In her concession speech in New Hampshire, she declared: "What are we going to do? And that is — that is the fight we're taking to the country. What is the best way to change people's lives so we can all grow together? Who is the best change-maker?" Honestly, it wouldn't be her. She — who won't release her speeches to investment bankers — cannot plausibly be the best person to take on Wall Street or clean up campaign finance rules. Maybe Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) or former senator Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.) could make that case, but not Clinton.

[Hillary Clinton's latest attack on Bernie Sanders shows she's a rotten candidate]

Clinton and her supporters thought gender loyalty would save her. It has not. Now she thinks minority voters will ride to her rescue. But why should they? Sanders is giving away free stuff and telling them the system is rigged. Voters under 40 years old don't remember the Bill Clinton years; they remember Hillary Clinton as the candidate who tried to take down then-presidential candidate Barack Obama and the person who jetted around the world while Obama was delivering on health care. She has not as yet shown the talent to reconstruct the Obama coalition, despite her faith that identity politics will win the day. (In case you have forgotten, her "identity" is a rich, white woman.)

Clinton may not dig herself out from all of this. Democrats who don't think so are whistling past the graveyard of the Democratic Party. For months Democrats worried about an alternative to Clinton; now they should be worrying about an alternative to Sanders. Clinton may just not be up to the task.

Siba, i ne prestaje:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-foundation-received-subpoena-from-state-department-investigators/2016/02/11/ca5125b2-cce4-11e5-88ff-e2d1b4289c2f_story.html?postshare=4021455288036239&tid=ss_fb-bottom


Investigators with the State Department issued a subpoena to the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation last fall seeking documents about the charity's projects that may have required approval from the federal government during Hillary Clinton's term as secretary of state, according to people familiar with the subpoena and written correspondence about it.

The subpoena also asked for records related to Huma Abedin, a longtime Clinton aide who for six months in 2012 was employed simultaneously by the State Department, the foundation, Clinton's personal office, and a private consulting firm with ties to the Clintons.

The full scope and status of the inquiry, conducted by the State Department's inspector general, were not clear from the material correspondence reviewed by The Washington Post.

Ne pratim, mada ko god da izadje iz ove duge, komplikovane i dosadnjikave izborne trke spoljna politika se ne menja lako, te nama dodje na isto.
Sem ako ne pobedi matori socijalista ili Tramp. A US of A ne bira socijaliste za predsednike, gde Amerikom commie da vlada Dakle, klovn Tramp. Nisam verovala da cu ovo ikad reci, ali kad je vec dotle doslo, sto se mene tice bolje Tramp nego odvratna Klintonka.

Tramp dropuje bed vizdom glede vladavine Džordža Dabja Buša:

Donald Trump finally went too far for Republicans

ili:

Why Donald Trump's vicious attack on George W. Bush was so brutally effective — and brilliant

Hilari i njeno "iskustvo" u spoljnjoj politici - odlična analiza:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-clinton-and-the-s_b_9231190.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Imala sam nedavno priliku da razgovaram sa nasim ljudima koji zive tamo, razlicite generacije. Pitah sta misle o izborima i ispalo je da nemaju nikakve predikcije, pfff.
Interesantno je da je najmladja medju njima, studentkinja, navela 2 prednosti Klintonove : "iskustvo u politici" i to sto je zena. Dobro, to je samo jedan tip glasaca, naravno. Morala sam da joj objasnim da nisam protiv Hilari zato sto je zena, vec da mi se ne dopada njeno iskustvo Isn't it ironic

Jeste. Pa to je ta cijela linija koju njena kampanja prati, tačno ciljaju na to da učine da se svaka žena osjeti krivom ako nije glasala za nju. Ono, kako reče Medlin Olbrajt, posebno mjesto u paklu i tako to.

Ja juče sa prijateljem sjedim u kafiću, pijemo kafu i nešto mumlamo o Americi, kad se lik sa susjednog stola, nekih circa 70 godina, okrene i uključi u razgovor. Ispostavi se da je čovjek živio i radio u NYC 45 godina, da je 2006 kačio crnogorsku zastavu iznad Ist rivera, da su mu oba sina profesori na univerzitetima, s tim što stariji predaje na Prinstonu. Provjerio sam, naravno.
I kaže mi stari, ja sam glasao na svim izborima i uvijek za demokrate. Za Srbe (makar te koje on zna) tvrdi da uvijek velikom većinom glasaju republikance. I ne vjeruje da će da se išta promijeni. Jedna stranka, druga stranka, sve ih kontrolišu isti ljudi.  Takav mu rezon.

Dobar mu rezon. I da, verujem da Srbi glasaju za republikance jer su pod demokratskom vlascu bili bombardovani, ne verujem da ce ijedan Srbin glasati za Klintonovu, ikad. A meni to sve isto, republikanac ili demokrata, jer kao sto stari rece...isto nam se fata. Spoljna politika se ne menja, nece sad da nam vrate Kosovo iako se sve desno i desnje okrenulo protiv islama. Tj onog brenda islama koji im trenutno ne odgovara...

Ma ovo što mi on ispriča za Srbe ide unazad do šezdesetih i sedamdesetih, a pretpostavljam da je to taj rezon.

Svrha postojanja feminizma!!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3449907/Those-people-Washington-got-theories-got-Texas-sheriff-scene-Justice-Scalia-s-death-hits-conspiracy-theories.html


In his futuristic 2000 novel: 2006 The Chautauqua Rising, American writer Jack Cashill predicted Scalia would die from carbon monoxide poisoning but no one would believe it

kad sam se već raspisao večeras, eo zanimljive tradicije

Nijedan američki predsjednik nije se plasirao ispod 2. mjesta u Nju Hempširu.

To bi značilo da Sanders, Klinton, Tramp ili Kejsik mogu biti predsjednici, ostali ili otpadaju ili pada tradicija.

 Bernie Sanders just surged past Hillary Clinton in a national poll for the first time

QuoteDemocratic presidential candidate, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt, and his wave Jane acknowledge the crowd as he arrives for his caucus night rally in Des Moines, Iowa, Monday, Feb. 2, 2016.

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders took the lead over former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for the first time Thursday in a national poll of Democratic primary voters.

In the Fox News survey, Sanders captured 47% support among likely Democratic voters nationally. Clinton, who has long been the Democratic frontrunner, garnered 44%.

Though Clinton's lead has shrunk significantly over the past several months, the Fox News poll is the first to show the senator ahead outright.

However, it presented a divergent result from other recent surveys. An NBC poll released Thursday evening showed Clinton maintaining an 11-point lead over Sanders nationally. Still, that represented a 14-point swing from when the same poll was conducted last month, before Sanders' double-digit New Hampshire primary win.

Both polls come just two days before Saturday's Nevada caucuses, where the few available public polls show the two candidates virtually neck-and-neck. Once considered a "firewall" for Clinton, Nevada has become a key battleground, as both candidates have rolled out campaign surrogates to woo interest groups like Latino voters and immigration activists.

Sanders has bombarded the state with ads and redeployed key campaign staff to the state in an attempt to make up ground against Clinton's team, which has been operating in state since April.

Plus, još Uošington Pousta protiv Hilari:

Hillary Clinton's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad answer on whether she's ever lied

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CBS's Scott Pelley interviewed Hillary Clinton on Thursday night. One exchange tells you everything you need to know about Clinton's struggles in the Democratic primary race so far and why she continues to be dogged by questions about her honesty and trustworthiness. Here it is:
>PELLEY: You know, in '76, Jimmy Carter famously said, "I will not lie to you."
CLINTON: Well, I have to tell you I have tried in every way I know how literally from my years as a young lawyer all the way through my time as secretary of state to level with the American people.
PELLEY: You talk about leveling with the American people. Have you always told the truth?
CLINTON: I've always tried to. Always. Always.
PELLEY: Some people are gonna call that wiggle room that you just gave yourself.
CLINTON: Well, no, I've always tried —
PELLEY: I mean, Jimmy Carter said, "I will never lie to you."
CLINTON: Well, but, you know, you're asking me to say, "Have I ever?" I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever have. I don't believe I ever will. I'm gonna do the best I can to level with the American people.

I mean, what? W-H-A-T?  "I've always tried to" tell the truth?  On what planet is this a good answer for a politician?

The answer, of course, is on no planet. While I am less familiar with politics on Mars than I am with those on Earth, I am pretty sure that being unable to simply say, "Yes, I have always been truthful with the public," would be a problem on the Red Planet, too.

This a double whammy of bad for Clinton.

First, it does nothing at all to quell concerns about her ability to be honest and straightforward. In the New Hampshire exit poll, more than one in three (34 percent) of all Democratic primary voters said that honesty was the most important trait in their decision on which candidate to support. Of that bloc, Bernie Sanders won 92 percent of their votes as compared to just 6 percent for Clinton.

That's broadly in keeping with national polling over the last year, which has consistently shown large majorities of voters voicing skepticism about Clinton's trustworthiness. Her answer to that criticism has, to date, been to blame it on a Republican Party obsessed with her and willing to say or do anything to tarnish her reputation. There's truth in that, but, as the New Hampshire exit numbers suggest, the problem is bigger than just Republicans out to get her.
Second, the answer from Clinton on honesty reinforces a perception that the former secretary of state tries to play with words, giving a heavily couched response when a simple one would — and should — do. You can imagine people rolling their eyes or saying, "Why doesn't she just answer the question?" while watching that painful response by Clinton.

I think I understand why she answered the way she did. She knows she has been in public life for a long time and that she has said lots and lots of things. Because of that, it's possible that at some point in the future, someone will unearth a statement in which it could be construed that she wasn't telling the whole truth. Clinton is protecting against the damage incurred by such a revelation.

But when you have the problems regarding honesty and trustworthiness that Clinton does, the only right answer to Pelley's question is: "Yes, I have always been truthful. Of course." That Clinton didn't give that simple answer suggests she is either (a) unaware of or doubts the depth of voters' concerns with her ability to be honest, or (b) she is so naturally cautious as to get herself in trouble even on a question she has to know is coming.

Either way, Clinton just made things harder for herself with that answer to Pelley.

Tja, i sama istina zavisi od percepcije i promenljiva je u vremenu. Nekad je bilo istina da su crnci niža rasa. Možeš dakle da izjaviš nešto što je u tom trenutku "istina", ili što svi veruju da je istina, a kasnije se ispostavi da nije tako.

Drugo, jbg nije svaka informacija za publiku. I neprijatelj sluša. Treće, nekad istina boli. Ljudi misle da žele istinu, a kad im kažeš onda shvate da su zapravo želeli nešto dugo.

Umesto tih opštih mesta, i priče o istini kao konceptu, bolje je fokusirati se na konkretne primere, kad je nešto rečeno, da li je taj-i-taj iskaz istinit, i da li je morao da bude istinit.

Tramp trampuje.
South Carolina Republican primary results 2016: 2 winners and 3 losers

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A big multi-candidate primary field allows for more than one winner alongside plenty of losers and the South Carolina Republican primary was no exception.

Donald Trump took first place, of course. And delegates were handed out. But these are still early days. The real prize in South Carolina — like Iowa and New Hampshire before it — is momentum in the media and with donors and other supporters. It's a war of position as candidates try to set themselves up for the real delegate prizes that are coming in March. And for local, national, and global figures who aren't currently running for president it's about how the race helps them advance their own agendas.
     
So here are a few people who helped their cause Saturday night, and a few more who lost.
Winner: Donald Trump
There continues to be considerable skepticism in many quarters that Donald Trump will emerge as the Republican nominee, but at the moment all the evidence is that he is winning. For example, he just won the South Carolina primary. He won in the relatively moderate state of New Hampshire and then he won in the very conservative state of South Carolina. All he does is win.

There continue to be serious questions about how Trump would fare if the race were to narrow to just two candidates in some future scenario. But in the scenario that exists right now, he is winning.Winner: Marco Rubio
Second or third is worse than first place, and on one level Rubio clearly lost by not winning. But on another level, Rubio supporters who call it a victory are correct. By placing well ahead of the rest of the field, Rubio has further bolstered the case that Republican Party leaders should do everything in their power to muscle the other non-Trump, non-Rubio candidates out of the race and line up behind Rubio. His actual path to the nomination continues to be a little hard to see. At some point he needs to find a way to win some actual states. But the fact remains that he advanced his cause tonight.
     Loser: The Bush family
On the one hand, Jeb Bush suffered yet another humiliating defeat — so humiliating that he was forced to drop out. But the South Carolina loss was a larger loss for the entire Bush family. He brought in his mother and his brother — it didn't work. In fact, it got worse. Trump went out and trashed George W. Bush's record as president, slamming the Iraq War and the dishonest sales pitch for the war. He even pointed out that Bush was president on 9/11, and that the various intelligence failures surrounding that attack were, in part, failures of his administration. The idea that you can win Republican Party primaries while saying this kind of thing casts the entire legacy of the Bush family in a very different light.Loser: The South Carolina GOP
The South Carolina Republican Party really tried to turn their state into the graveyard of Trumpism. One senator endorsed Jeb, the other — and the governor — backed Rubio. The state party even packed a debate audience with Trump haters whose constant booing clearly got under Trump's skin and made his performance look bad. It didn't do any good. Trump won. Not only did he win, he got more votes than Bush and Rubio combined. The establishment spoke, they acted, and they failed.
Loser: The Pope
Donald Trump loves a good fight, and Pope Francis gave him one, suggesting that Trump's wall-centric candidacy is un-Christian. Like everything else that gives Trump attention, it only gave him more reason to stay in the headlines and play his favorite role of tough guy standing up for America against the shadowy forces of the global elite. The Pope himself was clearly more concerned with his effort to focus attention on the humanitarian crisis facing millions of migrants globally than in narrowly impacting the US presidential race.

But migration issues ultimately need to be addressed through the political system, and at the moment the rise of anti-immigration populists in both the United States and a number of European countries is preventing that from happening. A Trump win is a loss for what the Pope was trying to achieve.

Two senators now stand between Trump and the GOP nomination

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COLUMBIA, S.C. — With his second decisive primary victory, Donald Trump is now the clear frontrunner for the Republican Party's presidential nomination.

The most pressing question now, after Trump's win in the South Carolina primary, is how long it will take for Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz to knock the other out and take Trump on directly.
The longer that Cruz and Rubio divide up the non-Trump vote, the more time the New York real estate developer will have to rack up delegates and win 50 percent of the primary electorate in popular vote totals.
A field that at its peak numbered 17 candidates has, to all intents and purposes, been winnowed down to three. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush dropped out of the race a few minutes before 9 p.m. Saturday, after finishing in single digits in the Palmetto State. Ohio Gov. John Kasich looks determined to stay in the race for some time, but is regarded by many political observers as a sideshow who is merely angling to gather delegates and use them for his own purposes at the convention. And retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson has proved an afterthought at the polls, although he has enough money to stay in for some time and insists that he has plans to.
The results Saturday night were another splash of cold water in the face of a Republican Party that had closed its eyes and desperately hoped for Trump's polling lead to evaporate as it did in Iowa, only to see the outlandish provocateur garner his second commanding win in a row.
"South Carolina, we will never forget you," Trump said in his victory speech in Spartanburg Saturday night.
Now the GOP establishment looks fearfully forward to a new phase of the primary contest. It moves to Nevada in just three days, and then to a slate of a dozen states on March 1, ten days from now. Of those March 1 states, seven are in the South or Midwest, and are likely to tilt strongly toward Trump.
Trump, with 33 percent in South Carolina, cleared the 30 percent bar that many had pegged as a barometer for showing whether or not he had lost momentum over the last few days. Rubio and Cruz were locked in a dead heat for second place, at 22 percent each.
Trump won a majority of votes from veterans in this state, which has a strong military presence, despite the fact that he explicitly blamed former President George W. Bush for the 9/11 attacks in a debate one week ago. Trump argued in that debate that the Bush administration "lied" about whether there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
The South Carolina primary has been won by the eventual Republican nominee in every presidential primary since 1980, with the exception of the last one, in 2012, when former House Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia was the victor. And Trump's method of winning the Palmetto State this week defied logic or historical comparison. "Trump won this week despite coming out for [a] health care mandate, defending planned parenthood, blaming Bush for 9/11, standing by impeachment," wrote NBC's Chuck Todd on Twitter.
The big question for Trump is whether he can rise above 35 percent, his total support in New Hampshire, in any state. If he cannot, and Cruz and Rubio both stay in, interminably, then the Republicans could be headed for a contested convention. If he cannot, and either Cruz or Rubio knocks the other out, then whoever takes him on will be poised to defeat him, despite his early wins.
At least that's the theory of many Republican political consultants who have been watching the race.
Trump disagrees that Cruz or Rubio voters won't turn to him if one of the candidates leaves the field. "As people drop out, I'm going to get a lot of votes also," Trump said in his victory speech.
Cruz has engaged in a withering back-and-forth with Trump over the past few weeks, while Rubio has largely avoided any engagement with the frontrunner. But Rubio may no longer have a choice on whether to take on Trump directly. Trump signaled Saturday that he may soon put the Florida senator in his sights, tweeting that Rubio is "very weak on illegal immigration."
In exit polls, Trump won big with voters who like a candidate who "tells it like it is." Cruz won support from voters who look for a candidate who "shares my values." Rubio won among voters who look for someone who "can win in November."
At the Trump rally, aides backstage devoured public exit polls with glee, noting Trump's wins in demographic categories where he had been underestimated, including evangelicals and hard-core conservatives in upstate South Carolina. They believe it signals momentum heading into the March 1 states, where they once viewed Cruz as their biggest threat but now see him as increasingly neutralized.
"If Cruz can't win South Carolina, where can he win?" a Trump aide, who declined to be named, told Yahoo News.
But even as Trump aides were making a victory lap, there were subtle shifts in strategy in South Carolina that will continue into future contests. In the final days of the primary, Trump added events at smaller venues, and he began making more unannounced stops — including swings through small-town diners. On Friday, the candidate campaigned from early morning until nearly 10 p.m. at night — not unusual for most candidates, but unusual for Trump, who typically flies home to New York every night.
For Cruz, the results were a disappointment. He had owned second place in polls in the state until very recently, and hoped after winning Iowa to do well in New Hampshire — where he came in third — and then to prevail again in heavily evangelical South Carolina. But Trump won evangelical voters here 32 percent to 27 percent for Cruz.
Cruz has outstanding organizations in many states set to vote on March 1 and beyond, and is extremely well-funded. But he must fight to keep the Republican electorate from concluding that the race should be narrowed to Rubio vs. Trump. Cruz will be helped by the fact that many conservative Christian voters in the March 1 primary states across the South will remain attracted to him. But he will have to fend off Rubio's courtship of the slice of that voting bloc who will never vote for Trump.

Cruz, speaking last of all the candidates on Saturday night, argued that he is the only conservative remaining in the race, and that he is also the best hope for Republicans to defeat Trump.
"Only one strong conservative is in a position to win this race," Cruz said. "We are the only campaign that has beaten and can beat Donald Trump."
Looking ahead to March 1, Cruz's campaign manager, Jeff Roe said his operation has "been built for this day for the entire time." Roe said the so-called SEC primary is "an electoral map that favors us."
"And then, after that we're going to go and battle out in the winner-take-all states and decide who the nominee is. So, every piece of what we've been talking about has come together," Roe said.
Rubio's campaign breathed a sigh of relief, given the candidate's situation just a week ago, when the Florida senator appeared to be on the ropes after his disastrous debate performance on Feb. 6 in New Hampshire. The argument undergirding the candidacies of governors Bush, Kasich and New Jersey's Chris Christie — that a governor with executive experience was better prepared to be president than a senator —received a fresh hearing that week.
But a steady debate performance this past Saturday, an endorsement from South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, and strong campaigning helped Rubio recover and survive. He had once hoped for a win here in this state, just as Cruz had, and would have been well-positioned here had he not stumbled in New Hampshire. Now he must gird himself for a long and brutal primary if he wants to win.
In an impressive election night speech inside an industrial warehouse — just a few hundred yards from the Cruz event — Rubio acknowledged that he had arrived in South Carolina 10 days ago "in search of a new beginning and a fresh start."
"Many thought it was over," Rubio said. "South Carolina will always be the place of new beginnings and fresh starts."
For Bush, the results Saturday night were a heavy blow, following a few days in which his candidacy went from hopeful to knocked out. After over-performing in New Hampshire, Bush got a two point bump right away. But his performance there came at an enormous cost, with data showing that he spent $36 million in New Hampshire between his campaign and his super PAC, compared to just $3.7 million for Trump and only $580,000 for Cruz.
Then came the debate bloodbath on Feb. 13, a debate in which Cruz and Rubio ripped into one another and Bush tried to take on Trump, with some success. Trump looked intemperate and out of control and was booed repeatedly.
"I believe Jeb Bush has emerged as the alternative to Donald Trump," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said on CBS News after the debate.
On Sunday and into Monday, there was the possibility that Jeb might be mounting a comeback, especially when it was announced that his older brother George W. Bush would come Monday to campaign for him.
The former president ridiculed and criticized Trump, but did not name him. George W. Bush described his brother as "a man of deep and humble faith that reveals itself through good works, not loud words."
"Strength is not empty rhetoric, it is not bluster, it is not theatrics," Bush said. "Real strength comes from integrity and character."
But it all made no difference.
Trump held an hour-long press conference Monday afternoon to distract from the former president's campaign stop and assiduously avoided any direct and open confrontation with George W. Bush. With Trump avoiding escalation and focusing his rhetoric on Cruz, there was no real reason for W. to respond without risking more political capital than he was willing to. Bush advisers said the former president would have likely campaigned again if Trump had gone after him. Instead, Trump hid, and George W. Bush did not appear again.
Then Wednesday, press reports leaked in the morning that Haley would endorse Rubio. It was a gut punch for Bush, who had just the day before called winning her support "the most meaningful endorsement" in the state.
Haley endorsed Rubio Wednesday night and she campaigned with him all day Thursday and Friday, along with African-American U.S. Senator Tim Scott and 51-year old Rep. Trey Gowdy, offering the GOP a picture of what their national profile might look like if Rubio won the nomination and picked Haley as his running mate.
In his concession speech, Bush choked back tears as he spoke and thanked his family.
"I'm proud of the campaign that we've run to unify our country," Bush said, "but the people of Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina have spoken and I really respect their decision."
"I congratulate my competitors who are remaining on the island," Bush said with a slight chuckle.
South Carolina had been kind to the Bush family in the past. George H.W. Bush, Jeb's father, won it in 1988 after losing Iowa to Sen. Bob Dole. George W. Bush won it in 2000 after losing to Sen. John McCain in New Hampshire.
But in 2016, a third Bush's presidential campaign came to an end in the Palmetto state.

Ovo je verovatno duhovito ako čovek gleda Game of Thrones. Ali taj čovek, jelte, nisam ja...


http://youtu.be/I0tE6T-ecmg

Satirično:
Bernie Sanders is the Worst Presidential Candidate in History, and You and All Your Friends are Idiots

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 22-02-2016, 07:08:41
Ovo je verovatno duhovito ako čovek gleda Game of Thrones. Ali taj čovek, jelte, nisam ja...


http://youtu.be/I0tE6T-ecmg

Pa, sta znam, nije toliko duhovito koliko je stvarno dobro izmontirano. Najgori od sve dece, to je otprilike poenta. I kad smo vec kod trampovanja

Nevada: Tramp ubedljiv, treća uzastopna pobeda

QuoteVašington -- Kandidat za nominaciju republikanaca na izborima Donald Tramp lako je pobedio u saveznoj državi Nevadi, osiguravajući tako vođstvo u trci za nominaciju.

Čomski ne voli da se izražava u eufemizmima 



Chomsky: Trump's rise due to 'breakdown of society'

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MIT professor and intellectual Noam Chomsky attributes Donald Trump's success in the Republican presidential primary to "fear" and a "breakdown of society."
In an interview published Tuesday, AlterNet's Aaron Williams asked Chomsky for his thoughts on Trump's "surprising progress." After a second-place finish in Iowa, the billionaire has stormed to consecutive double-digit wins in New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada.
"Fear, along with the breakdown of society during the neoliberal period," Chomsky responded. "People feel isolated, helpless, victim of powerful forces that they do not understand and cannot influence."
Chomsky compared the political environment that's allowed Trump to flourish to the 1930s, when the U.S. was in the Great Depression. "Objectively, poverty and suffering were far greater," Chomsky said. "But even among poor working people and the unemployed, there was a sense of hope that is lacking now, in large part because of the growth of a militant labor movement and also the existence of political organizations outside the mainstream."
Trump and Hillary Clinton are leading in their respective primaries, but Chomsky demurred when asked who he thought would win the White House.
"I can express hopes and fears, but not predictions," he said.
Chomsky has contributed to Bernie Sanders' campaigns in the past but said he would "absolutely" vote for Clinton over the Republican nominee if he lived in a swing state.
In an interview last month, Chomsky praised Sanders but said the Vermont senator didn't have "much of a chance" due to "our system of mainly bought elections."

Šteta što Vilijam F. Bakli nije živ, baš bih volio da čujem šta ON ima da kaže za Trampa.

Posljednji rezultati istraživanja javnog mnjenja govore da se Sandersu crno piše. Dok kod Republikanaca Tramp void u svih 11 država koje će glasati u utorak (Super Tuesday), Berni gubi od Klintonovke u 9, pri čemu značajnu prednost ima samo u Vermontu gdje je bio guverner. Uz to će u subotu da izgubi u Južnoj Karolini sa, kako sada stvari stoje, 25% razlike.
Postoji ozbiljna šansa da već u utorak i Tramp i Klintonovka praktično obezbijede nominacije.
Sinoć je održana još jedna GOP debata, po prvi put su Kruz i Rubio sinhronizovano napadali Trampa. Na momente se dobro branio, na momente i nije, ali je jedna stvar definitivno jasna. Kod GOP, Tramp je Alpha Male of the Group. I vjerovatno će mu ta činjenica obezbijediti nominaciju.

Meni deluje da ako bude T. vs Cl. pobeđuje Cl. dok ako bi bilo T. vs. B. pobedio bi T.

Kao sto pomenuh u jednom od gornjih postova, it all boils down to T vs C.

Ne znam kako americka javnost gleda na Hilari (Corwine, imas neke statistike ili saznanja po tom pitanju?) ali uz sve ove skandale oko donacija, cinjenice da su ljudi nezadovoljni demokratskom administracijom te klimom koja ide u prilog republikancima ja mislim da su sanse da Tramp pobedi velike....zvuci neverovatno ali ovako iz laicke tacke gledista, rekla bih da ima bolje sanse od Klintonove.

на жалост сандерс ће вероватно изгубити

Hilari uživa veliku podršku kod crnaca i manjina uopšte. Zato Sanders glat gubi Južnu Karolinu u kojoj je preko 50% glasača na unutarpartijskim izborima crno. Takođe kod glasača starijih od 50 godina koji Sandersa vide kao nekog ko je previše lud da bi bio predsjednik. A Sandersu su baza podrške mladi ljudi, tačnije "millennials", uglavnom bijelci i uopšte ljevičari.

Glavni problemi kod glasača vezani za Sandersa su: "one issue candidate" - totalna glupost koju plasira HRC kamp i spinuje po potrebi, "socijalista", "ima neostvarive ideje" (jer božedragi da svi imaju zdravstveno je taaaaako nerealno, kao i džabe studiranje na državnim univerzitetima), "non-electable", odnosno nema šanse da pobijedi GOP kandidata.

A za Klintonovku glavni problem je "trustworthiness", odnosno povjerenje, "general likeability" - stvarno je, mi u CG kažemo, "mrzna", i da radi za Volstrit. Plaćali su je Goldmen i Saks po 250K za polučasovne govore, niko još nije video transkripte iako ih je Sanders tražio i javno je proziva. Kod nje još postoji ta skrivena opasnost da cijela kampanja eksplodira u svakom trenutku. Naime, FBI istražuje i nju i njeno osoblje vezano za aferu sa jebenim mejlovima dok je bila ministarka spoljnih poslova. Bolje bi joj bilo da je pjevala Miljacku i da nije umjela da upali kompjuter.

Sanders se bolje od nje kotira na nacionalnom nivou, prije svega zato što bi ga podržalo daleko više "nezavisnih" glasača nego nju. Trenutno, stanje je takvo da bi on Trampa glatko dobio, dok Klintonovka ima neku prednost od možda 5%. Tako da trenutno nije baš klima naklonjena Republikancima. Tramp je u stanju da privuče najveći dio Republikanaca, ali dobar broj njih bi na predsjedničkim izborima glasao za Demokrati iz čistog straha od budale. Oni jednostavno na stranke ne gledaju kao mi u Evropi.

Haha, "mrzna", bulzaj!

Hvala na objasnjenjima

Pa ja mislim da niko nije ozbiljno očekivao da Sanders bude ozbiljan kandidat za kandidata. Mislim, on je ultrasimpatičan čovek i mobilisao je ogromnu količinu podrške građana (radije nego korporativnih donatora) ali em je on za američka shvatanja ultralevičar em nekako nije realistično da budeš kandidat a da te ne podržava ni jedna prepoznatljiva interesna grupa. Naprosto, demokratija u Americi funkcioniše na principu interesnih grupa (oni čak i nemaju direktno glasanje za predsednika nego preko electoral collegea) i naročito u unutarpartijskim izborima za kandidata uticaj interesnih grupa je presudan.

Klintonova je napravila svinjarija koje bi joj u nekoj normalnoj zemlji sahranile političku karijeru ili makar diskvalifikovale iz priče o kandidaturi ali opet, ona mudro računa na kratko pamćenje nacije (kao i neki kod nas, jelte) i eksploatiše sve prednosti koje ima (iskustvo, "pobedu" nad terorizmom, to što je šatro borkinja za ženska prava) plus, ima jasnu i nedvosmislenu podršku pre svega finansijskog sektora (ako pogledate na trenutno stanje, Goldman Sachs je drugi po donacijama a tu su i Citigroup na prvom mestu, JP Morgan na četvrtom...) i nekako je jasno zašto bi ona morala da na kraju bude kandidat.


Naravno, do pre pola godine niko nije očekivao ni da Tramp bude ozbiljan kandidat za kandidata, pa u tom smislu razumem i nade vezane za Sandersa 

Na sreću, demokrate gube ove izbore i na sreću, Donald Trump će biti novi predsednik SAD.

Pretpostavljam da je to zajednička želja svih koji žele zlo Americi.

A takvih je sve vise

No, bez obzira, citam i misljenja mladjih ljudi koji su u fazonu 'he tells it like it is' a pri tom nisam stekla utisak da su ti likovi bas tipicno republikansko biracko telo, tako daaa...kupuje i one protivnike PC-ja.