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A, jeb'te se inkvizitori.

Ne, ne. Moje stanovište kao polu - pušača ti je promaklo. Mnogo stvari nas truje. Niko me ne drži da se odselim na Frušku goru i u šumi dišem čisti zrak. Nikome ne popujem da se mane automobila jer time me ubrzava u grob. Nemam prava na to jer sam doprinosim nezdravoj okolini drugim ljudim pa i sebi.
Zato tvrdim da je to sve licemerno. I nepušači na neki drugi način truju druge ljude.

U današnjem svetu sve se uglavno meri novcem. Osim valjda u Nepalu, gde se gleda i nekakva sreća, ali ne znam kako oni to mere. Dakle novac. Duvanska industrija proizvodi duvan i tako proizvodi novac, ali pušenje uništava zdravlje, što troši novac. U zavisnosti ko priča i kako gleda zavisi da li se novca u totalu više proizvodi ili troši. ALI. Kad ne bi bilo pušenja onda ne bi bilo duvanske industrije, pa bi zemljište koje ta industrija zauzima onda otišlo nekoj drugoj industriji koja bi (nadamo se) samo proizvodila novac, a ne bi ga trošila. Pričamo o milijardama dolara godišnje. Velike su to pare. Matematika je valjda jasna, i valjda je jasno da nikakvog licemerja tu nema. Pronađi nešto što isto tako više šteti nego što koristi, i vredno je mirijada dukata, pa ćemo i time da se pozabavimo.

neovisno zdravstvenim aspektima: pusaci kvare svaki ugodjaj jer smrde.
gore su tek zene-pusaci gdje trpimo kombinaciju dima i dezodoransa.

Quote from: zosko on 01-01-2016, 19:51:48
neovisno zdravstvenim aspektima: pusaci kvare svaki ugodjaj jer smrde.
gore su tek zene-pusaci gdje trpimo kombinaciju dima i dezodoransa.

EPOHALNO!!!

Govorim o individualnom licemerju ljudi koji naprasito napadaju pušače od kada se pojavila vest o ukidanju fumaranja po kafanama jer, kao, sada imaju "zaleđinu"a ne smeta im kada upale auto, ili se prskaju deodoransima, ili serviraju torte i kolače, dime meso i tako. Evo, ja ne vozim već godinu dana, ali zato produvam pola kutije dnevno. Održavam balans Ne smeta ni državi koja sa jedne strane propagira na svakoj kutiji cigareta posledice a sa druge strane kupi kajmak akcizama i daje subvencije poljoprivrednim proizvođačima koji seju duvan.   


Lepo velim, sve se slažem, samo da ne diraju kafanu. Neće biti posete, ljudi će zatvarati, drugi ostati bez posla, manje će se na akcizama uzimati (svako zna da se u kafani fumla mnogo više) a i meni će koji dinar više ostati.

bit cu iskren: sta mene brine oko ove vijesti, kao i legalizacije i jos nekih? srbija se priprema za eu. a srbija u eu znaci srbi u hr.

Licemerno je dozvoliti proizvodnju cigareta a zabraniti pušenje svuda osim napolju. Sa druge strane, retki su pušači koji imaju i malo osećaja i tolerancije prema nepušačima, pa treba i njih razumeti, pišem kao bivši pušač. Ili neka zabrane proizvodnju i promet, kao i pušenje, ili neka dozvole ljudima da se truju po kafanama i kafićima  kao i do sad. Izem ti kafanu bez pepeljara i duvanskog smrada u zavesama i stolnjacima Kad ne dođem kući nadimnjen k'o šunka kao da nisam ni bio. Jedino za šta sam naci je pušenje u prostorijama gde se klopa, popizdim kad mi neko zapali cigaru pod nosem dok jedem. To je vrhunac netolerancije i bezobrazluka.

Zosko zar nisi kačio neku sliku sa pljugom u ustima skoro? Opet nešto baronišeš?

Sad vidim da je i Džek pisao isto.

 Every year of smoking causes DNA mutations that make cancer more likely  

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Attention smokers: For every year that you continue your pack-a-day habit, the DNA in every cell in your lungs acquires about 150 new mutations.
Some of those mutations may be harmless, but the more there are, the greater the risk that one or more of them will wind up causing cancer.
The threat doesn't stop there, according to a study in Friday's edition of the journal Science. After a year of smoking a pack of cigarettes each day, the cells in the larynx pick up roughly 97 new mutations, those in the pharynx accumulate 39 new mutations, and cells in the oral cavity gain 23 new mutations.
Even organs with no direct exposure to tobacco smoke appear to be affected. The researchers counted about 18 new mutations in every bladder cell and six new mutations in every liver cell for each "pack-year" that smokers smoked.
The findings are based on a genetic analysis of 5,243 cancers, including 2,490 from smokers and 1,063 from patients who said they had never smoked tobacco cigarettes.
At this point, it should come as no surprise that cigarettes are bad for your health. The U.S. surgeon general has warned about the dangers of smoking for more than 50 years. The American Cancer Society recently calculated that in a single year, at least 167,133 cancer deaths in the U.S. could be blamed on smoking. But the new study offers a clearer picture of how smoking does its deadly damage.
The researchers used powerful supercomputers to compare thousands of cancer genome sequences. The computers grouped the sequences into about 20 distinct categories, or "mutational signatures." Mutations tied to five of these signatures were more common in tumors from smokers than in tumors from nonsmokers.
One of the signatures involves a specific DNA nucleobase change — instead of a C for cytosine, there was an A for adenine — that "is very similar" to the change that occurs in the lab when cells are exposed to benzo[a]pyrene, a compound that the International Agency for Research on Cancer says is carcinogenic to humans.
Most of the lung and larynx cancers obtained from smokers had this type of mutation, the researchers reported. They also found that the signature was more common among smokers than nonsmokers.
Another mutational signature was characterized by Cs that should have been Ts (thymine) and vice versa. Although these changes can be found in all kinds of cancers, the signature was 1.3 to 5.1 times more common in tumors from smokers than in tumors from nonsmokers, according to the study.
The researchers said they think these kinds of mutations have the effect of speeding up the "clock" inside of cells. The faster a cellular clock runs, the more chances the cell's DNA has to mutate.
"The way tobacco smoking causes cancer is more complex than we thought," study coauthor Mike Stratton, director of the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute in England, said in a statement.

teške posledice dokonosti.

QuoteCourt restricts smoker's balcony cigar habit to certain times
Published: 01 Dec 2016 09:53 GMT+01:00

Austria's highest court has ruled on a case about when a Vienna resident can smoke in his own home, which could have far-reaching effects for smokers, and non-smokers sick of smelling their neighbour's cigarette smoke.

A university professor living in Vienna's first district in a 7th floor apartment made an official complaint about his neighbour on the floor below. The 6th floor resident enjoys smoking cigars on his balcony, usually between midnight and 2am. In the winter, he smokes indoors with the windows open.

The professor complained that he could smell the smoke in his bedroom and that it disturbed his sleep. He said that a previous tenant had also complained and even moved out of the flat because his children had respiratory problems.

A district court ruled that the man shouldn't smoke on his balcony at all, or in his apartment when the windows were open. The smoker appealed against this, and the court then said he shouldn't smoke on the balcony or with the windows open between 10pm and 6am. However, the non-smoking professor then appealed against this decision and took the case to the supreme court (OGH).

The court has now come up with a set of rules as to when the man can and can't smoke at home, depending on whether it's winter or summer. It said smoking is not allowed on the balcony or with the windows open between 10pm and 6am and that during the summer a smoking ban should also be upheld during the usual "eating and resting times" - between 8am and 10am, midday and 3pm, and 6pm and 8pm.

The judges said that the ruling was fair as it balanced the interests of the non-smoker and the smoker and does not entirely forbid the neighbour from enjoying his cigar habit.

Puši li koji predsjednički kandidat, da navijamo za njega!

QuoteIn his private life, Mr van der Bellen admits to two weaknesses: Donald Duck comics and cigarettes.

Nazis.

ovog "A university professor living in Vienna's first district in a 7th floor apartment" bi trebalo izbegavati 

Ne mogu da opisem kojim me besom ispunjavaju ovakve situacije, gde u svom prostoru ne mozes da radis sta hoces (u okviru nekih drustveno prihvacenih normi ponasanja) od dokonih komsija, a zakon to jos podstice.

Znaci, i poznanica, koja zivi u Briselu mi se pozalila da je komsije maltretiraju zbog pusenja u stanu, ostavljaju anti smoking crteze i ceduljice na vrata, itd. Katastrofa.

na šta spadosmo kad on cigarete naziva svojom slabošću!

Ispravna odluka, pa kao što ne bismo trpeli glasnu muziku iz tog stana, ne treba ni cigarete. Nek puši u sebi!

Da li može neko u svom stanu da pravi poplavu?

Meho

Arrrgggghh!!!

mac, zar stvarno mislis da je to odgovarajuce poredjenje?

Nikada nisam voleo ekstremno i isključivo, pa i kad je pušenje u pitanju.

nisam ja džaba navijo za Trampa čitavu godinu!

Tako je, scallope. Nego se ovi moderni nepusaci popismanili, svuda anti smoking policija, zaviruju u stanove, tretiraju pusace kao leprozne sunce ti...

Bato, jel ce da da narodu da pusi cigara? Mada, mislim da ti Ameri i ne puse toliko...nazi antipusacka propaganda uzela danak

Dybuk, da sam po Americi skupljao pikavce, brda bih napravio.

Ha! I Francuzi puse ko ludi, a nigde nije dozvoljeno (unutra).

meni pakla cigareta nekad traje dva dana, nekad dva meseca, ja ih konzumiram isključivo kad treba da se "sredim".

Najlakše je ostaviti cigarete, ja sam ih ostavio hiljadu puta.

mene obično kad uvati neka prehlada, kad se začepim, onako, pošteno, ne podnosim duvanski dim.  i čak mislim da sam po tom pitanju još gora od klasičnih nepušača. tako batalim, pa posle mesecima ne konzumiram. a dešavalo mi se da dok popijem jednu kafu stučem sedam ko jednu. užas

Svaka cast Agota, to je pravo.

Ti mozes, i ne moras da pusis, moj ideal.

Quote from: Dybuk on 01-12-2016, 23:00:14
Meho

Arrrgggghh!!!

Ne znam šta je ovde kontroverzno. Ako živiš u kući sa okućnicom, pušićeš u njoj koliko ti je volja. Život u urbanim sredinama sa većom gustinom stanovništva podrazumeva i druga pravila, nepisana, pisana, obavezna itd. Podrazumeva se određen nivo samoograničavanja da se ne bi drugima umanjivala nekakva opšteprihvaćena razina kvaliteta života. Dakle, u stanu ne puštaš glasnu muziku koja bi smetala drugima, kad zalivaš cveće paziš da ne curi komšiji ispod tebe na terasu i, da, kad pušiš, gledaš da ne ulazi njemu u stan.

Šta može da uđe s balkona na balkon....  Realnije je da su to dva profesora a ne jedan. Džangrizavi matorci vode bitku između šestog i sedmog sprata!

mehmete, u pravu si! tako je!  sve je tako! mijauuuuuuuuuuu, miiiiijaaaau, mjau, mjau, mijaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaau, mjau,majau,miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiijjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Agota je baš nevaljala danas!

Aludira da su moje mačke nekakav izvor iritacije za druge u mojoj zgradi? Ali nisu. Ne deru se (često) i ne prave haos po hodnicima/ dvorištu itd.

Dok ne ogrebu nekoga, a onda pravac kod veterinara na bocu!

Ma, ne, to su kućne mačke. Grebu samo mene.

Kućne mačke i balkonske cigarete!

How Australia is stubbing out smoking

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Australia was the first country in the world to introduce mandatory plain packaging for tobacco products - and the UK will have followed suit by May this year. But will any country copy Australia's plan to keep increasing taxes until a packet of cigarettes costs AUD$40 (£24)?
It's not easy being a smoker in Australia.
The smoking bans started inside - in workplaces, bars and restaurants - and moved out.
"Smokers would congregate on footpaths and near public transport creating clouds of smoke - what we call 'smoking hotspots'," says Mark Driver, Sydney's Park and Recreation Planner.


"Now, smoking is prohibited within 10m (33ft) of a playground, within 4m (13ft) of the entrance to a public building, at rail platforms, taxi ranks and bus stops."
Those are the rules in New South Wales, but they are mirrored in many other states. Smoking is banned on many beaches, and most Australian states have now banned cigarettes in jail. All states ban smoking in vehicles if children are present.
Fines vary, but in some places you may be fined AUD$2,000 (£1,210) if you smoke in the wrong place. And even if you don't, you'll be paying more than that each year by 2020, if you smoke just one AUD$40 pack a week.


It's already five years since Australia became the first place in the world to make plain cigarette packaging compulsory. Tobacco-advertising has long been banned, and now branding has too.
The boxes are a drab, dark brown colour (deemed the ugliest in the world by a team of Australian researchers), they carry no logos, and graphic health warnings cover most of the front of the box.
"You see this gigantic, see-and-never-forget kind of image of throat cancer - a hole in the neck, or what a stroke looks like with a brain sliced open," Chapman explains.
"Some smokers say they don't even look at it, but there has been research which shows that with the people who engage in those avoidance strategies, it's actually a predictor of them quitting later on."


All this came on top of anti-smoking campaigns that have been driving down smoking rates in Australia since the 1970s.
"It's a toxic, poisonous mix of substances, including ammonia, the bleach in toilet cleaner; acetone, the chemical in nail polish remover; benzene, found in paint stripper; and hydrogen cyanide, used in rat poison," went one advertisement. "And smoking delivers it straight to your body."
"The evidence shows that these hard-hitting, graphic ads that really show the harms of smoking are some of the most effective," says Scott Walsberger, head of tobacco control at Cancer Council NSW.
But other campaigns have also tried a gentler approach, emphasising how quickly a smoker's health starts to improve once he or she has quit.


It was this approach that was taken by the creators of an interactive, behavioural change app called My Quit Buddy, launched in 2012.
Offering tips for giving up, daily motivational messages, distractions to overcome cravings, and a place to share success stories and celebrate milestones, it has now been downloaded more than 400,000 times in Australia alone.


"It shows people that just by even quitting for five days, you can start to see changes - you'll have more money in your wallet, your skin becomes clearer," says Paul Den, one of My Quit Buddy's creators.
"And the community forum shows people that they're not alone - people generally trust other people more than they trust the government."
The cumulative effect of these policies is that smoking rates for adults have almost halved since 1980, says Henrietta Moore, of the Institute for Global Prosperity at University College, London, and are now at about 13%, compared to a global average of about 20%. There has also been a decrease of almost 23% in the rate of hospital admissions caused by smoking.
Simone Dennis, an associate professor at Australian National University, says a culture of shame surrounding smoking has begun to emerge, and that itself has become a smoking deterrent.
Take, for example, the policy of confining smokers to areas where they will not create a public nuisance.
"If you think about smoking in public, those tend to be spaces that no-one wants to hang out in anyway," she says.
"So smokers feel marginalised because they can't be citizens in public spaces any more, because they're restricted to these kind of 'dirty spaces.'"


Tobacco in Australia

   
• The government has committed to reduce the number of adults smoking on a daily basis to 10% by 2018
• Plain-packaging rules insist that 75% of the front of a cigarette pack is covered by a health warning, and 90% of the back
• Tobacco taxes rose 25% in 2010, and are now rising 12.5% every year
• The Tasmanian parliament has discussed a bill that would ban smoking for those born after 2000
• Australia has not gone as far as Bhutan, and reportedly also Turkmenistan, which have banned the sale of tobacco products

Read: The battle for control of the cigarette packet

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These days, smoking is often taken up by people who are on the lowest rungs of the socio-economic ladder, she points out, "and that adds a burden of shame to people who might already be marginalised".
If it's the poor who are now the most likely to smoke, it's hard to see how they will ever afford the AUD$40 pack of cigarettes.

Ovo je više za antifašizam!

When the Wheels Came Off

Ovaj što urla nek se ubije i spase Srbiju. I svi mirni.


Edit: hteo sam da napišem nešto razumno, ali prva opcija je jednostavnija.

Dole health naziji!

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 07-04-2017, 13:01:48
Dole health naziji!

Ne, gore je čistije no dole. [emoji38]

QuoteWHEN WE ARE CLEARLY NOT OUTDOOR PEOPLE IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE.
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You Michelob Ultra fascists with your narrow waists and your active lifestyles, you fertility goddess fuckwads with your Concern For the Children, you public health wonks intent on Extending Our Lifespans For No Good Goddamn Reason

Jedan lep, kulturan tekst

Pušenje je subverzivna aktivnost

Eh, pa i uzimanje heroina je subverzivna delatnost, nije to sad neka graundbrejking novost. 

Ali duvan je, za razliku od heroina, legalan

Što ga čini ipak manje subverzivnim.