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Aco Popara Zver

Ugly, nema više global warminga!
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

Ugly MF

Tramp ukinuo global warming?! Jeeeeeee!!!

Meho Krljic

Trump issues stunning, baseless claim that 'millions' voted illegally




President-elect Donald Trump, who defeated Hillary Clinton by winning the Electoral College in the election earlier this month, claimed Sunday that he would've beaten her in the popular vote too if not for "the millions of people who voted illegally."
It's remarkable and unprecedented for a victorious presidential candidate to claim widespread voter fraud. There is no evidence to indicate that there was a significant number of people, let alone millions, who voted illegally in the election on Nov. 8.
Trump clinched his stunning victory over Clinton by amassing more than the 270 electoral votes needed to win. He won 290 to Clinton's 232, and is ahead in Michigan, though the contest for its 16 electoral votes is still too close to call. But Clinton is on track to win the national popular vote by around 2.5 million, a loss that Trump appears to find hard to swallow.
"In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally," Trump tweeted Sunday afternoon.
In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
November 27, 2016


In the weeks leading up to Election Day, Trump repeatedly warned that the election would be "rigged" against him, claiming there would be widespread voter fraud.
"Of course there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day," Trump tweeted on Oct. 17. "Why do Republican leaders deny what is going on? So naive!"
But while there have been isolated cases of voter fraud in the United States, the Associated Press reported the same day, "There is no evidence of it being a widespread problem."


A Loyola Law School professor's study cited by the AP found just "31 instances involving allegations of voter impersonation out of 1 billion votes cast in U.S. elections between 2000 and 2014." Another study by the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School "found many reports of people voting twice or ballots being cast on behalf of dead people were largely the result of clerical errors that suggested wrongdoing when none had occurred."
"Voter fraud is so incredibly rare that it has no impact on the integrity of our elections," Wendy Weiser, head of the democracy program at the Brennan Center, told the AP. "You are more likely to be struck by lightning, more likely to see a UFO, than to be a victim of voter fraud."
Related: Trump rails against Clinton for joining election recount
Trump's revival of the voter fraud claim comes amid a campaign initiated by Green Party nominee Jill Stein to recount the votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. On Saturday, Clinton campaign general counsel Marc Elias said that while his team "had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology," they would participate in the Stein-led recount in Wisconsin as well as recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan if Stein pursues them.
Early Sunday, Trump blasted Clinton for supporting the recount effort.
"Hillary Clinton conceded the election when she called me just prior to the victory speech and after the results were in," Trump wrote in the first of a series of tweets he posted early Sunday morning. "Nothing will change."
Hillary Clinton conceded the election when she called me just prior to the victory speech and after the results were in. Nothing will change
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
November 27, 2016


Stein's team has raised more than $5 million to pay for the recounts in the three battleground states. In Michigan, Trump leads Clinton by 10,704 votes, according to the state's yet-to-be-certified count. In Wisconsin, Trump defeated Clinton by 22,525 votes. In Pennsylvania, he beat her by about 68,000 votes. Clinton would have to win recounts in all three states to overturn the outcome of the Electoral College, but experts say there is virtually no chance of Stein's campaign overturning even one.
Nonetheless, the recount effort has amplified tensions that were already high because of Clinton's overall victory in the popular vote.
"No, nothing will change," The Nation's Joan Walsh replied to one of Trump's tweets. "You lost the popular vote by 2.5 million. you'll have to live with that."
@realDonaldTrump no, nothing will change. you lost the popular vote by 2.5 million. you'll have to live with that.
— Joan Walsh (@joanwalsh) November 27, 2016


In 2012, Trump called the U.S. electoral-vote system a "disaster for democracy." And in his first sit-down interview after the election, the real estate mogul told CBS News' "60 Minutes" that his opinion hadn't changed.
"I would rather see it where you went with simple votes," Trump said. "You know, you get 100 million votes, and somebody else gets 90 million votes, and you win."
But in a pair of subsequent tweets, Trump declared that the Electoral College "is actually genius" because it empowers smaller states. (He then reversed himself again last week in a New York Times interview, in which he said he'd "rather do the popular vote," and that he was "never a fan of the Electoral College.")
Trump also claimed on Twitter that he would have "won even bigger and more easily" if the U.S. presidency were determined by the national popular vote as opposed to the Electoral College.
He reiterated that refrain Sunday afternoon.
It would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular vote than the Electoral College in that I would only campaign in 3 or 4–
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
November 27, 2016

states instead of the 15 states that I visited. I would have won even more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
November 27, 2016


"It would have been much easier for me to win the so-called popular vote than the Electoral College in that I would only campaign in 3 or 4 states instead of the 15 states that I visited," Trump tweeted. "I would have won even more easily and convincingly (but smaller states are forgotten)!"

Aco Popara Zver

šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

mac

Nije Tramp jedini koji je dobio posao na lepe oči..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVNmUgOGTPY

Meho Krljic

Why a weekend of raging Trump tweets should give us pause

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Donald Trump closed out the Thanksgiving holiday weekend by tweeting an outrageous lie about the 2016 election.
"In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally," the president-elect tweeted on Sunday.
He went on to directly target states he lost: "Serious voter fraud in Virginia, New Hampshire and California — so why isn't the media reporting on this? Serious bias — big problem!"
To begin with the obvious: There is no evidence whatsoever that any of this happened. The claim of millions voting illegally appears to have come from a "story" published by conspiracy website Infowars, which has also promulgated claims that the Sandy Hook massacre was faked and Hillary Clinton is a "demon from hell."
Serious election observers quickly condemned Trump, pointing out that instances of noncitizens voting are vanishingly rare. "We know historically that this almost never happens," David Becker, executive director of the Center for Election Innovation & Research, told Politico. "You're more likely to get eaten by a shark that simultaneously gets hit by lightning than to find a noncitizen voting."
One common theory about Trump's unhinged tweets is that they are calculated to draw attention away from more serious and more damaging stories. In this case, the election tweets followed a lengthy investigation by The New York Times into Trump's sprawling global business empire and how his own personal financial interests could shade his decisions as president. Trump has already shown no real desire to separate himself from his businesses — beyond saying his children will be in charge — and argued that it's legally impossible for the president to have a conflict of interest.
It's possible the distraction theory could have some merit. But the simpler answer is probably the correct one. Trump simply cannot stand the fact that while he won a narrow Electoral College majority, he now trails Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton by nearly 2 million votes. Trump is also reportedly enraged by Green Party nominee Jill Stein's efforts to push a recount in Wisconsin, where he won by just 27,257 votes. Stein, who is also pushing for recounts in Michigan and Pennsylvania, won 30,000 votes in Wisconsin. So her recount effort there seems aimed at proving she did not cost Clinton the state rather than altering the actual result.
The Hillary Clinton campaign has not pushed the recount effort but said it would participate to ensure fairness. None of the recount efforts are likely to alter the result. Trump is going to be president.
But his raging tweets show just how thin his skin really is and how unlikely he will be as president to smoothly handle any insults or criticism from foreign leaders or opponents on Capitol Hill.
The Sunday tweet storm also helped obscure a disturbing story that broke just before Thanksgiving reporting that Trump is turning away daily briefings from national security officials. Trump spokeswoman Kellyanne Conway explained that Trump is getting intelligence information from other sources but declined to elaborate on who those sources might be.
And Trump himself is not talking to the press. He hasn't held a news conference in four months, letting his transition process devolve into a series of leaks and extraordinarily public fights.
Conway took the unprecedented step on Sunday of publicly urging her boss not to pick Romney for secretary of state, saying Trump's supporters "feel betrayed" by consideration of the 2012 nominee, a highly respected figure in the GOP establishment.


Now Trump is reportedly meeting with retired general David Petraeus on Monday to discuss the secretary of state job. Petraeus resigned in disgrace from the CIA in 2012 after acknowledging that he shared classified information with Paula Broadwell during an extra-marital affair. Petraeus agreed to plead to a misdemeanor charge of unauthorized possession of classified information.
A Petraeus pick would come after Trump spent months on the campaign trail hammering Clinton for using a personal email account during her tenure as secretary of state, arguing that it compromised classified information. Trump, after campaigning as a champion of forgotten blue collar voters in the Rust Belt, is also stocking his administration with millionaires and billionaires.
All of this should give pause to anyone — including investors sending stocks to new highs — regarding whether Trump will be able to run a successful administration that lowers taxes, streamlines regulations, cuts great trade deals and sparks faster economic growth.
Trump's transition is a complete mess and there is no reason to assume his White House will be any different.— Ben White is Politico's chief economic correspondent and a CNBC contributor. He also authors the daily tip sheet Politico Morning Money [politico.com/morningmoney]. Follow him on Twitter @morningmoneyben.

mac

Izbori su prošli. Možda je vreme za novu temu, "Trump"? Novinar Gardijana ukazuje na neke stvari:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/30/donald-trump-george-monbiot-misinformation

Aco Popara Zver

Nazovimo temu Tramp Alef, pošto se u Trampu vidi čitav svijet!
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

Meho Krljic

Ovog što Mac linkuje smo svi, mislim svesni, ali lepo je kad se ovako sistematizuje.

tomat

Enciklopedija dramatika nas nikada nije izneverila

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Trump
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded.

Meho Krljic

Prefinjen enciklopedijski entri. Tu tambs ap!

Aco Popara Zver

Nisam još ni počeo da čitam a izgleda bogovski

Odo dotvorim topik
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

Truman

Quote from: tomat on 03-12-2016, 12:09:13
Enciklopedija dramatika nas nikada nije izneverila

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Trump

Skrolovati na dole i pogledati Melanijinu sliku iz mladosti.
Ja da valjam ne bih bio ovde.

Truman

Evo primer Trampove pacerske politike>http://www.blic.rs/vesti/svet/tramp-je-upravo-napravio-svoju-dosad-najvecu-gresku/zkrn94h

Čak je na tviteru napisao nešto što ne priliči američkom predsedniku. Nije da me je briga što je Ameriku da nastavi da uvaljuje u nevolje, samo konstatujem da čovek nije za taj posao.
Ja da valjam ne bih bio ovde.

Aco Popara Zver

Čoek je čitavu kampanju proveo obećavajući kvarenje odnosa s Kinom, šta je sad čudno

Elem, Slate se trudi da dokaže da radnička klasa ipak nije glasala za Trampa

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/12/the_myth_of_the_rust_belt_revolt.html
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

Aco Popara Zver

Twitter as arena for the authentic outsider: exploring the social media campaigns of Trump and Clinton in the 2016 US presidential election

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0267323116682802#abstract

šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala

Meho Krljic

DHS finally reveals the states Russia hacked during the elections 

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According to the investigation, the attackers didn't tamper with voting machines.   

     State officials finally know if they serve one of the 21 states Russia tried to hack during the 2016 Presidential elections. Homeland Security and other agencies found out in 2016 that Russian government hackers tried to get into some states' voting registration systems, but it took a year for the secretaries of state to convince the DHS to disclose its findings. The agency has only decided to tell authorities if they were targeted during the elections on Friday, because it "would help [them] make security decisions" way before the 2018 midterm elections begin.       Senator Mark R. Warner, vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said: "Its unacceptable that it took almost a year after the election to notify states that their elections systems were targeted, but I'm relieved that DHS has acted upon our numerous requests and is finally informing the top elections officials in all 21 affected states that Russian hackers tried to breach their systems in the run up to the 2016 election." The states affected by the hacking attempts include Alabama, Colorado, Connecticut, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Wisconsin and Washington.
According to Homeland Security, the attackers only got into the systems of a handful of states despite targeting almost two dozen. In some cases, like in Illinois, the attackers altered voters' records and got away with their sensitive details, but investigators didn't find any evidence that they tampered with actual voting machines. Office of Intelligence and Analysis Cyber Division acting director Samuel Liles once said, however, that the attackers might not have altered vote counts, because their real purpose was to look for vulnerabilities to exploit.   

Aco Popara Zver

i dalje Russian GOVERNMENT hackers... a ono neki klinci traže lične podatke da bi kupovali s neta
šta će mi bogatstvo i svecka slava sva kada mora umreti lepa Nirdala