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Under his new deal at Paramount, Martin Scorsese will develop and possibly direct a film adaptation of Eric Jager's historical novel "The Last Duel: A True Story of Crime, Scandal and Trial by Combat in Medieval France" reports Variety.

Jager's book follows a duel that occurred in 1386 between knights Jean de Carrouges and Jacques LeGris. Duel was the last sanctioned by the French government, in this case by King Charles IV.

"Duel" won't necessarily be his next film says Paramount. Scorsese, still basking in the glow about the success of his crime thriller "The Departed", is currently shooting a documentary on the Rolling Stones for the studio.
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Ralf Bakši snima novi film!  :!:
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Moviehole recently spoke to writer/director Ed Neumeier, who reveals that he's close to getting behind the cameras for STARSHIP TROOPERS 3, which we first told you about here. "Looks like—fingers crossed—Sony is moving forward," Neumeier tells the site. "Plans are afoot to shoot next year. Casper Van Dien will be back as Colonel John Rico. There'll be a new bug or two. Also draft riots. Religion makes a comeback. And the Federation has a new weapon." Neumeier scripted Paul Verhoeven's original TROOPERS and the first sequel, helmed by FX wizard Phil Tippett; like that movie, TROOPERS 3 will go direct to DVD via Sony Pictures Home Entertainment.
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Quote from: "Meho Krljic"
QuoteThis version is being done by "Daredevil" and "Ghost Rider" director Mark Steven Johnson who will pen the pilot, whilst Howard Deutch will direct.

Da li je uopšte potrebno da kažem kako ova rečenica najavljuje koliko će sranje ovaj film biti? Siroti Gart Enis...

Gart Enis je sam po sebi sranje, tako da i nije neka gre'ota. Snimanje Propovednika?!? :x Na kakve se sve gluposti trosi traka!
We ain't getting any younger, you know!

Meho Krljic

Hm, ovaj topik nije najzgodnije mesto za raspravu, pa ako hoćeš, možemo o ovoj temi na forumu o stripu. Ali, naravno da nisi u pravu u tome što kažeš (očigledno nisi čitao 303) a i nisi dao nikakvo obrazloženje...

SuperGoof

U pravu si, nisam dao adekvatan primer... :oops:

Mislio sam na Propovednika, koga sam ischitao skoro do kraja (ne samo prvo izdanje Belog Puta). Za ostalo ne znam, ali u ovom stripu Gart Enis daje sliku o sebi kao teskom kompleksashu koji ne zna sta pise i zbog cega pise. U stvari, smatram da ga njegova publika cita iz istog razloga iz kojeg Hauarda Sterna prate njegovi slusaoci: I wanna hear what he'll say next. I nista vise. U svim tim baljezgarijama i izdrkavanjima ne nadjoh ama bas nista vredno pomena (ne vezujem ovo za religiju, mind you).

Medjutim, o ovome i ne vredi raspravljati. Ja ga ne volim jer njegovi scenariji podsecaju vise na forumashke prepirke koje bi mogao da iskoristi za prepucavanje sa drugim forumasima poput cuvenog NoDice-a, a ne za pisanje scenarija. Tu jednostavno nema pomoci.

Isticem ponovo da nisam citao njegovog Punisher-a i druge radove jer me je definitivno odbio nedotupavi i plitki Preacher predodredjen americkom jugu i duhu Fuckin' A!

Ako neko smatra da nisam dovoljno vremena proveo na citanju i "razumevanju :)" Enisovog Propovednika, mogu da kazem da sam se prvi put susreo s istim pre vise godina, tokom studija, pa ponovo sada. I misljenje mi se nije promenilo. Stavise, sad kada sam vise stvari procitao i formirao kakve-takve stavove, smatram da je jos grdji nego pre.

Verujem da ce hard-core fanovi da reaguju na ove moje reci, ali ja o Gartu Enisu i njegoj "umetnosti" uopste vise ne bih trosio reci. Hvala.
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Stanley Kubrick never threw anything away. On the other hand, he didn't have much of a filing system, and when he moved — permanently, it turned out — from Hollywood to London in 1962, a great many things went astray. Among them was the sole copy of a film treatment called "Lunatic at Large," which Mr. Kubrick had commissioned in the late '50s from the noir pulp novelist Jim Thompson, with whom he had worked on "The Killing," a 1956 heist story that became his first successful feature, and then on 1957's "Paths of Glory."

The manuscript remained lost until after Mr. Kubrick's death, in 1999, when his son-in-law, Philip Hobbs, working with an archivist, turned it up, along with a couple of other scripts, and set about trying to make it into a movie.

There were a couple of false starts. Mr. Hobbs originally approached the French company Pathé — partly because the French hold Jim Thompson in the same esteem as Edgar Allan Poe and Mickey Rourke — and after that arrangement fell through, he formed a partnership with Edward R. Pressman, a New York-based producer, and the London producers Finch & Partners. Mr. Pressman, who is expected to announce the completion of the deal today, said the film would be directed by Chris Palmer, from a finished script by Stephen R. Clarke.

"When Stanley died, he left behind lots of paperwork," Mr. Hobbs said in a telephone interview. "We ended up going through trunks of it, and one day we came across 'Lunatic at Large.' I knew what it was right away, because I remember Stanley talking about 'Lunatic.' He was always saying he wished he knew where it was, because it was such a great idea."

Speaking from her home in Britain, Mr. Kubrick's widow, Christiane, said: "My husband always had a drawerful of ideas. There were always a lot of stories on the go, things he started, things he left lying around. It was like being in a waterfall. I remember he was very excited at the time about 'Lunatic at Large,' but then other things happened." First, she explained, Mr. Kubrick was forced off "One-Eyed Jacks," with Marlon Brando, and then he was hired to replace Anthony Mann on "Spartacus."

" 'Spartacus' changed his life," she said. "And after that his imagination was held by 'Lolita,' which gave him the opportunity to film in England, where making movies cost so much less."

The loss of his manuscript was a bitter disappointment to Mr. Thompson, who had a long and mostly hard-luck relationship with Hollywood. Like a lot of writers who seek their fortune there, he eventually drank too much and became his own worst enemy. He died in 1977, much too soon for the revival of interest that made him a cult writer in the '90s, when four of his novels were made into films: "The Grifters," "The Getaway," "Hit Me" and "After Dark, My Sweet."

Despite its title, "Lunatic at Large" is not a horror story. It's a dark and surprising mystery of sorts, in which the greatest puzzle is who, among several plausible candidates, is the true escapee from a nearby mental hospital. Mr. Clarke, the screenwriter, said that the recovered treatment (a prose narrative dramatizing an idea by Mr. Kubrick) was a "gem" but also "pretty basic," and that he expanded it a bit, adding a new subplot, among other things, to make the solution less obvious. Mr. Clarke's experience consists mostly of writing for British television, so he prepared for his new task by rereading Mr. Thompson and studying old Bogart films.

His finished screenplay has the feel of authentic Thompsonian pulpiness. Set in New York in 1956, it tells the story of Johnnie Sheppard, an ex-carnival worker with serious anger-management issues, and Joyce, a nervous, attractive barfly he picks up in a Hopperesque tavern scene. There's a newsboy who flashes a portentous headline, a car chase over a railroad crossing with a train bearing down, and a romantic interlude in a spooky, deserted mountain lodge.

The great set piece is a nighttime carnival sequence in which Joyce, lost and afraid, wanders among the tents and encounters a sideshow's worth of familiar carnie types: the Alligator Man, the Mule-Faced Woman, the Midget Monkey Girl, the Human Blockhead, with the inevitable noggin full of nails.

Back when Mr. Kubrick and Mr. Thompson were working on it, this was probably cutting-edge stuff, and you can imagine that Mr. Kubrick might even have been tempted to film "Lunatic at Large" in noirish black and white. Today it feels like a period piece, but the filmmaking team has resisted the temptation to update it. "That's the beauty of it — that it is such a period piece," Mr. Clarke said.

Mr. Pressman agreed. "You just couldn't make it any other way," he said. "It wouldn't work."

"Post-Tarantino," he added, "this kind of film has become new in a way. Things go in cycles."

The director hired for "Lunatic at Large," Mr. Palmer, is in roughly the position Ridley Scott was in before "The Duellists." He's an acclaimed London director of commercials, that is, who has never made a feature film.

But Mr. Hobbs is untroubled. "You have to remember that before he got his big chance, Stanley had only made one or two films," he said. "And you can't go to just anyone with a Kubrick idea; it does have a bit of provenance. A lot of people would be frightened to take it on."
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crippled_avenger

Universal Pictures, Imagine Entertainment and director Spike Lee are re-teaming to shoot a feature about the famous April 1992 riots in Los Angeles.

John Ridley will write the script to "L.A. Riots" which aims to be a "truthful and realistic examination of what happened, what the ramifications were and where we are now" Lee said in an interview with Variety.

The riots, which followed the acquittal by a white jury of four police officers who were videotaped beating black motorist Rodney King, caused the death of 55 people, thousands of injuries and close to $1 billion in damage.

The three previously combined on this year's very well-received thriller "Inside Man" and are developing a sequel to that already. The project is expected to be Lee's next feature and will shoot next year.
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Joe Carnahan ("Narc", "Smokin' Aces") is in talks to direct a remake of the 1965 thriller "Bunny Lake is Missing" which Reese Witherspoon is being eyed to star in reports Variety.

Otto Preminger directed the original which surrounds the events that occur after a woman reports that her daughter Bunny Lake has gone missing. When police find no evidence that she even existed, they being to question the woman's sanity.

Pulitzer Prize winning playwright and "Quills" scribe Doug Wright is working on a rewrite of his own script with Carnahan. Spyglass Entertainment will finance and Sony Pictures will distribute.

Carnahan hopes to helm "Bunny Lake Is Missing" before he directs George Clooney in "White Jazz" which goes into production early 2008.
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Warner Bros. has set "Open Water" director Chris Kentis and producer Laura Lau to handle a movie about the famous events surrounding the survivors of the U.S.S. Indianapolis in World War Two.

Based on Douglas Stanton book "In Harm's Way", the film "Indianapolis" follows the survivors of the ship which was sunk by the Japanese after delivering materials used in the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

Floating for five days in the Philippine Sea, the 900 survivors were reduced to 317 by the time of rescue from the shark-infested waters. Variety reports that Kentis will direct and co-write the project with Lau.

The incident was famously spoken of in a monologue by actor Robert Shaw in a scene from 1975's "Jaws" and has previously been adapted into a 1991 TV movie starring "Prison Break" warden actor Stacy Keach.

Warner Bros. previously tried to get a film verion going five years ago with Mel Gibson starring and Barry Levinson directing. Universal has a rival project in development which J.J. Abrams was eyeing to direct.

Kentis says "Indianapolis" will flesh out with backstory on why the ship's distress signal went unheeded, how the survivors were spotted accidentally and how the military made a scapegoat of Captain Charles Butler McVay III who committed suicide in 1968.
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Sjajno! A pošto je to Kris Kentis, možemo da očekujemo some full frontal nudity!  :!:
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crippled_avenger

Hey Joe,

Big fan of Narc (one of my favorite movies) and HUGE fan of White Jazz (one of my favorite books) so naturally i'm really excited that you're directing. No. 1 question, though, will Dudley Smith be in your adaptation?

Thanks, Adam

Adam:

Dudley will unfortunately not be part of the adaptation and that grieves me to no end. If you're a fan of the books then you know that he was alive and well, albeit chopped up at the end. Since the film LA Confidential made the choice to off 'The Dud' at the end and I'm treating this film like a sequel to that one, my brother and I, in writing it, chose to create a new character.

I hope this doesn't send all those Ellroy fans off the rails. It's a really great adaptation though and I'm thrilled to get into it.

JC
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Woohoo! Taj čovjek baš ne gubi vrijeme!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0498353/

Hostel 2 je već spreman, a u glavnim ulogama (za razliku od prvog dijela) su tri CURE, što obećava još veći boob count nego prije!
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pazi ovaj slate, i procentualnu zastupljenost zanra :D

SCREENING AT AFM:

AFTER... (psychological horror)

World Premiere - AFI Festival - Dark Horizons Section.

Written & directed by David L. Cunningham (To End All Wars). Starring Daniel Caltagirone (Tomb Raider 2, The Pianist), Nicholas Aaron (Touching the Void) and Flora Montgomery (Man to Man).

Trailer & scenes available at www.themovieafter.com.

Nate, grief-stricken over the death of his young son, jets off with his wife Adrian and her brother Jay to Moscow to do some urban exploration, the practice of investigating areas not designed for public use. Their adventure through Moscow's underworld, Ivan the Terrible's torture chambers, Soviet bomb shelters and Stalin's fabled Metro-2 subway system turns into a nightmarish journey a la Jacob's Ladder when they're trapped underground and the lines between fantasy and reality become blurred.


AFM Screening Times:

Wednesday, November 1st, 15:00: Broadway Cineplex 1

AFI Festival Screening Times:

Saturday, November 4th, 21:30: Arclight Theater 10

Sunday, November 5th, 15:30: Arclight Theater 10



EL CANTANTE (drama)

World Premiere - Toronto International Film Festival 2006 Special Presentation

Directed by Leon Ichaso (Pinero). Starring Marc Anthony and Jennifer Lopez. US Theatrical Release: Picturehouse - Summer 2007.

Based on the true-life story of the world's most famous salsa singer Hector Lavoe and his volatile relationship with his wife Puchi. Set in New York's Latino salsa scene of the 60's and 70's, the film focuses on the rise and demise of Lavoe and his passionate love affair with the woman who stayed by his side, despite his bouts of depression and infidelities.

An accompanying soundtrack will be released worldwide with Marc Anthony singing Hector Lavoe's songs. Jennifer Lopez will be releasing a Spanish-language album in November of 2006.



AFM Screening Times:

Wednesday, November 1st, 8:45 AM: AMC 7

Thursday, November 2nd, 17:00: AMC 5



PENNY DREADFUL (horror/thriller)

World Premiere - Market Premiere Screening @ AFM 2006

Directed by Richard Brandes. Starring Rachel Miner (The Black Dahlia, Bully, The Memory Thief) and Mimi Rogers (Austin Powers, Someone to Watch Over Me). US Theatrical Release: November 17th, 2006, on 500 prints in the US.

Watch the trailer at www.pennydreadfulthemovie.com & http://www.horrorfestonline.com/film2.html

Traumatized by a childhood auto accident that killed her parents, Penny accompanies her therapist on a road trip as part of her therapy to overcome an overwhelming fear of cars. But when the two women accidentally cross paths with a mysterious hitchhiker on a lonely stretch of highway, an attempt at healing suddenly takes a terrifying detour into a horrific life and death struggle, with a ruthless, deranged killer bent on preying upon Penny's worst fears.



AFM Screening Times:

Saturday, November 4th, 11:00 AM: Broadway Cineplex 1

Monday, November 6th, 15:00: AMC 6



SISTERS (suspense/thriller)

Produced by Ed Pressman (The Crow, Wall Street, Badlands, Conan). Directed by Douglas Buck (Family Portraits: A Trilogy of America). Starring Chloe Sevigny (Zodiac, Boys Don't Cry, The Brown Bunny), Stephen Rea (Breakfast on Pluto, V for Vendetta) and introducing Lou Doillon.

The horrific retelling of the original Brian De Palma film. Leading a disturbingly sheltered existence at the hand of her controlling psychiatrist, Angelina is desperate to release herself from his hold on her. Suspicious of the psychiatrist's motives, a nosy reporter starts a dangerous investigation of Angelina. Stumbling into a decades-old conspiracy of mysterious deaths, a controversial operation and human experimentation, soon, the reporter herself becomes part of the experiment.


AFM Screening Times:

Wednesday, November 1st, 13:00: Ocean Screening Room

Sunday, November 5th, 17:00: Laemmle Monica 1



THE TRIPPER (horror)

Produced by David Arquette, Courteney Cox, Evan Astrowsky and Neil Machlis. Written and directed by David Arquette. Starring Jamie King (Sin City, Bulletproof Monk, Blow), Thomas Jane (The Punisher, Killshot), Jason Mewes (Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back), Lukas Haas (Alpha Dog, Brick), Paul Reubens (Pee-wee's Big Adventure) and Balthazar Getty (Lost Highway), with cameos from Courteney Cox (Scream, Friends) and David Arquette (Scream).

Visit www.myspace.com/thetrippermovie.

As a group of friends head to a modern-day Woodstock concert for a weekend of sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll, a psychotic killer in a Reagan mask has his own gory agenda for mayhem - to finish what he started so many years ago. In a weekend and place where nobody's thinking or seeing straight, how can one stop a killer when you don't know what's real? David Arquette makes his directorial debut in this twisted and bloody tale.




AFM Screening Times:

Friday, November 3rd, 13:00: Laemmle Monica 1

Monday, November 6th, 9:00 AM: Mann Criterion 5



NEW TO AFM - IN PRE-PRODUCTION:

THE HURT LOCKER (action-adventure) - Principal photography begins February 2007.

Written by Mark Boal (In the Valley of Elah). To be directed by Kathryn Bigelow (Point Break, Strange Days, K-19: The Widowmaker). Produced by Greg Shapiro (Rise, Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle).

Cast to be announced at AFM.

Forced to play a dangerous game of cat-and-mouse in the chaos of war, an elite Army bomb squad unit must come together in a city where everyone is a potential enemy and every object could be a deadly bomb. The daily heroism of these willing daredevils is revealed in an explosive adventure from the director of 'Point Break,' 'Strange Days' and 'K-19: the Widowmaker.'

 

WHILE SHE WAS OUT (thriller) - Principal photography begins January 2007.

Written and to be directed by Susan Montford (producer of Shoot 'Em Up). To be produced by Don Murphy (Transformers, Shoot 'Em Up, From Hell) & Guillermo del Toro (director of Hellboy and Pan's Labyrinth). Starring Academy Award-winner Kim Basinger (L.A. Confidential, Cellular, 8 Mile).

A thriller in the vein of 'Deliverance,' 'Breakdown' and 'Dead Calm.' A typical suburban housewife is forced to fend for herself when she becomes stranded in a desolate forest with four murderous thugs. What starts off as a quick trip to the mall ends in the woods with a fight for her life. All she has is a toolbox and her will to survive.






IN PRODUCTION:

GEORGE A. ROMERO'S DIARY OF THE DEAD (horror) - Trailer at AFM.

Written & directed by George A. Romero.

The master of horror returns to the style of filmmaking he pioneered and the genre he invented. In his first independent zombie film in over two decades, George A. Romero takes us back to ground zero in the history of the living dead. Starring Josh Close, Phillip Riccio, Joe Dinicol, Michelle Morgan, Tatiana Maslany, Amy Lalonde and Scott Wentworth.

A group of film students struggling to get home amidst the chaos and terror of a zombie outbreak create a first-person video 'diary' detailing their horrific encounters with the undead. In this post-Katrina world, the rules of society are crumbling and the government is unprepared to help. All that remains is self-reliance, 'the struggle to stay alive and the creation of a video diary to leave behind for future generations ...if any survive.'



IN POST-PRODUCTION:

THE MUTANT CHRONICLES (science-fiction) - principal photography completed July 28th, 2006

Produced by Ed Pressman (The Crow, Wall Street, Badlands, Conan). To be directed by Simon Hunter. Starring Thomas Jane (Killshot, The Punisher), John Malkovich (Being John Malkovich, Eragon), Ron Perlman (Hellboy, Blade II, Alien: Resurrection), Benno Fürmann (The Princess and the Warrior, My House in Umbria), Devon Aoki (Sin City 2, Rogue, DOA) and Zuleikha Robinson (Hidalgo, The Merchant of Venice, The Namesake).

300 years in the future, mankind has almost destroyed his world. Four giant corporations have defiled the land with decades of war and pollution. As they squeeze the final drops of wealth from the dying Earth, they trigger a massive outpouring of evil from the Underworld - a marauding, demonic army of NecroMutants intent on destroying all that remains of mankind. A crack squad of elite soldiers form an uneasy alliance in a last ditch effort to save the future.







COMPLETED:

A CHRISTMAS WEDDING (romantic comedy)

Directed by Michael Zinberg. Starring Sarah Paulson (NBC Universal's upcoming Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, Deadwood, Griffin and Phoenix), Dean Cain (Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman) and Eric Mabius (The OC).

A month before their Christmas day wedding, perfectionist bride-to-be Emily is called away for work leaving her procrastinating fiancé Ben to deal with all the wedding day details - from bridesmaids' dresses to floral arrangements! But when a snowstorm threatens to strand Emily at work, she realizes that it's not about the perfect wedding plans. All that truly matters is making it home to be with the man she loves and their Christmas wedding. Trailer available at http://www.afmfilms.org/catalog/FilmDetail.php?id=2529.







DECEIT (psychological thriller)

Produced by Eleven Eleven Films (Unknown). Directed by Matthew Cole Weiss (Standing Still). Starring Emmanuelle Chriqui (Wrong Turn, After Sex), Matt Long (Ghost Rider, Jack & Bobby), Luke Mably (The Prince and Me, Colour Me Kubrick), Joe Pantoliano (Unknown, The Matrix), Ashley Scott (Into the Blue), Pell James (Broken Flowers, Zodiac) and Jon Abrahams (Prime).

A psychological thriller in the vein of 'Body Heat', 'Basic Instinct' and 'Double Indemnity', two childhood friends are torn apart by a seemingly innocent beauty in a small American town. Nobody is innocent in this world & money, lust and obsession are the American standards and even the tightest bonds are not immune to their pull. Trailer available at http://www.afmfilms.org/catalog/FilmDetail.php?id=514.





HEAVENS FALL (drama)

Written and directed by Terry Green. Starring Timothy Hutton (Kinsey, City Hall, Ordinary People), Leelee Sobieski (Joan of Arc, Eyes Wide Shut, The Glass House), Academy Award-Nominee David Strathairn (The Bourne Ultimatum, My Blueberry Nights and Good Night and Good Luck).

In the spring of 1931, nine black men were arrested for allegedly raping two young white women. Ranging in ages from twelve to twenty years, they were quickly tried and sentenced to the electric chair. News of their convictions spread and the plight of the Scottsboro Boys became a 'cause celebre' that fueled the fire of socialism worldwide, forcing an appeal to the United States Supreme Court and resulting in new trials for all nine defendants. In 1933, a savvy and self-assured defense lawyer, Samuel Leibowitz, agreed to represent the accused at their retrials in Decatur, Alabama. His journey into the Deep South set in motion a legal battle that ultimately changed the course of American jurisprudence. Footage available at http://www.heavensfallthemovie.net.



THE LIBRARIAN: RETURN TO KING SOLOMON'S MINES (action/adventure)

Produced by Dean Devlin (Independence Day, Godzilla, Stargate). Directed by Jonathan Frakes (Star Trek, Clockstoppers, Thunderbirds). Starring Noah Wyle (White Oleander, ER), Gabrielle Anwar (Scent of a Woman) and Olympia Dukakis (The Thing About My Folks).

Hidden beneath the Metropolitan Public Library is a repository for mankind's greatest secrets. From the Golden Fleece to Pandora's Box, every enigma and artifact from every known and unknown civilization is protected from the forces of evil who, if given the chance, would use the priceless treasures for their nefarious plans. Only one man can keep them safe: Flynn Carson - the man known as the Librarian.
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Pomalo o OXFORD MURDERS


INTERVJU

Zločini u matematičkom nizu
Giljermo Martinez
Martinez Giljermo

Knjiga "Matematika i koreni postmoderne misli" Vladimira Tasića poslužila mi je kao inspiracija za neka kritička ispitivanja u romanu "Neprimetni zločini"

Neprimetni zločini - roman argentinskog pisca Gižerma Martineza ovenčan je prestižnim književnim priznanjem španskog govornog područja, nagradom "Planeta". To je prividno krimi roman i sa njim je Martinez izgradio novi žanr matematičke fikcije. Roman prati sudbinu mladog argentinskog matematičara stipendiste koji dolazi u Oksford. Nekoliko dana po dolasku nalaze mrtvu staricu u čijoj je kući on iznajmio stan. To je samo prvo u nizu od ubistava, a njih će pokušati nezavisno od policije da rasvetli logičar Artur Seldom. Martinez je u ovom romanu vešto prepleo krimi priču sa verovanjima drevnih sekti matematičara, Gedelovom teoremom, Vitgenštajnovim filozofskim zapažanjima, pa i veštinama mađioničara. Osim "Neprimetnih zločina", koje je nedavno objavila "Laguna", još dva romana Gižerma Martineza prevedena su kod nas i oba objavljena kod novosadskih "Svetova". To su: "Povest o Rodereru" i "Maestrova žena".

Gižermo Martinez je rođen 1962. godine u Argentini, u mestu Baija Blanha. Doktorat iz matematike, iz oblasti logike odbranio je u Buenos Ajresu, a postdoktorske studije u Oksfordu. Iz tih dana datira i njegovo prijateljstvo sa Vladimirom Tasićem, prošlogodišnjim dobitnikom NIN-ove nagrade, koji je, kao i Martinez, doktor matematike i pisac. Martinez je preveo na španski Tasićevu knjigu "Matematika i koreni postmoderne misli", koja je, kako nam je rekao, bila rado čitana u intelektualnim krugovima u Argentini.

Oduvek me je interesovala književnost, još dok sam bio dete. Moj otac je bio profilisani pisac, a majka je bila profesor književnosti - kaže Martinez. - U stvari, matematika je mnogo kasnije ušla u moj život, sasvim slučajno, za vreme univerzitetskih studija.

Vaša knjiga "Veliki pakao" pripoveda o zlu i masovnim grobnicama. Nažalost, masovne grobnice bile su deo balkanske prošlosti u poslednjih deceniju i po. Na taj način vaša priča je univerzalna, zar ne?

- Tužno je što je tako. Ono što je još tužnije jeste da 25 godina posle tih događaja mnogi mladi studenti iz moje zemlje ne razumeju o čemu govori ta priča. Ljudi brzo zaboravljaju i ponavljaju najgoru vrstu političkog nasilja.

Za roman "Neprimetni zločini" dobili ste prestižnu nagradu "Planeta". To je vaš najuspešniji roman. Kako je nastajao?

- Mnogi misle, prema nekakvom književnom osećaju, da je moj prvi roman ("Povest o Rodereru") i dalje moja najbolja knjiga. Ali, tačno je da su "Neprimetni zločini" mnogo čitaniji... U stvari, tu sam knjigu napisao sasvim slučajno, u prekidu rada na jednom teškom i ambicioznom romanu. Imao sam ideju koja me je zaokupljala od kada sam napustio Oksford, ali mislio sam da bi o tome trebalo pisati u dalekoj budućnosti, jednom kada budem završio sa "ozbiljnim stvarima". Onda se desilo da mi je jedan obrazovni sajt dao predlog za roman u epizodama koji bi se pojavljivao onlajn, po jedno poglavlje svake nedelje. Odmah sam se setio avantura Šerloka Holmsa, koje su startovale na taj način u novinama toga doba, i ja sam bio u iskušenju da stvorim novu verziju "logičnog" detektiva, sa pomalo matematičkim mišljenjem.

Posle napisanog prvog poglavlja, taj projekat je odjednom propao iz ekonomskih razloga, a ja sam se našao na početku romana i za to vreme sam ga razvijao sa više iskustva. Na tom romanu sam radio dve sledeće godine i kada je bio gotov, došla je i nagrada "Planeta". Ostali deo priče mene je iznenadio više nego bilo koga drugog: roman o matematici i gotovo najkrvavijim zločinima imao je neverovatan uspeh. Preveden je do sada na 26 jezika, čak devet izdanja rasprodato je u Engleskoj, a uskoro će se snimati i film u režiji Aleksa de la Iglesije. Možda je roman privlačan zato što sam zaista uživao u pisanju, a deo te radosti prešao je i na čitaoce...

"Neprimetni zločini", roman o zločinima i serijskim ubistvima u Oksfordu, pisan je u dobroj tradiciji engleskih krimi romana, ali ima i dosta inovacija...

- U mojoj zemlji postoji akademska teza o varijacijama u mom romanu - o vezama sa klasičnim krimi romanom, uglavnom oko ličnosti detektiva, kriminala i odnosa Holms - Votson, u mom slučaju to je par učitelj i učenik. Ali, dok sam pisao roman, nisam imao na umu te aspekte. Jedina inovacija za koju sam se trudio da je sprovedem jeste rasprava o estetici zaključivanja na različitim poljima, uključujući kriminalističku istragu i teorijsku borbu između uma matematičara i policijskog detektiva.

Interesantno je pomenuti da je Vladimir Tasić vaš prijatelj i kolega sa Oksforda. Tamo ste se i upoznali?

- Vladimir je bio jedan od mojih kolega iz kabineta za gostujuće istraživače na Matematičkom institutu i postali smo prijatelji za vreme moje druge godine boravka u Oksfordu. Kada je saznao da imam napisan roman, pročitao ga je u prevodu na engleski (bio je to moj prvi roman "Povest o Rodereru") i potom je pokušao da obnovi svoju tinejdžersku ljubav za pisanje kratkih priča. I napisao ih je nekoliko, naravno, na srpskom jeziku. Tada bi ih čitao meni i mojoj supruzi i usmeno ih prevodio na engleski. Tako je i završio celu knjigu kratkih priča i kasnije ih je objavio pod predivnim naslovom "Pseudologija fantastika". Potom smo ostali u kontaktu i ja sam preveo na španski jezik njegovu filozofsku knjigu "Matematika i koreni postmoderne misli", u kojoj ne da sam puno uživao, već mi je poslužila kao inspiracija i za neka kritička ispitivanja u "Neprimetnim zločinima" (na primer, Vitgenštajnovo mišljenje da konačni nizovi nemaju jedinstveno određen nastavak). Obradovalo me je saznanje da je ubrzo potom dobio jednu od najvećih književnih nagrada u svojoj zemlji i da je postao poznati romansijer.

Može li se vaš roman "Povest o Rodereru" čitati kao knjiga o intelektualnom antagonizmu?

- Da, zaista je tako. To stvara dramsku tenziju između dva glavna lika. Ali, roman je takođe savremena verzija mita o Faustu.

U vašim romanima "Povest o Rodereru" i "Maestrova žena" upleli ste mitove o Prometeju i Faustu. Da li je istina da pisci uvek pričaju stare priče na nov način?

- Ne u vidu uopštenog stava. To je jedan od mogućih načina da se pogleda unazad u prošlost sa nadom da se kaže nešto novo o tim pričama kada se obnove u savremenom izdanju. Ali, postoje mnogi drugi načini da se pokuša iznova proniknuti u književnost. Zaista verujem da postoji margina u originalnosti književnog stvaralaštva, uprkos svim pričama koje su već ispričane. Točak ljudskog života se okreće i kategorije koje se čine postojane, poput ljubavi, smrti, ludila... nisu uvek iste u određeno vreme. Pa, zato je istina da nikada ne govorimo iste priče, jer perspektiva čitaoca, sa porastom ironije i znanja, prkosi ponavljanju.

Kako pronalazite balans između matematike i pisanja? Ima li sličnosti između matematike i književnosti?

- Nalazim neke uočljive sličnosti u kreativnom procesu i napisao sam celu knjigu o tome pod nazivom "Borhes i matematika". Glavne analogije opisane su u kratkom eseju koji sam napisao i koji je preveden na engleski jezik pod naslovom "Kratka priča kao logički sistem".

Koji su pisci i filozofi uticali na vaš književni rad?

- Henri Džejms, Tomas Man, Horhe Luis Borhes, Hulio Kortasar, Vitold Gombrovič, Žan
Pol Sartr i naravno, marksistički način posmatranja istorije i društvenih pokreta.

Interesujete se i za filozofiju matematike. Koje odgovore nudi ovo polje filozofije, naročito Vitgenštajn?
- Rekao bih da sam od Vitgenštajna shvatio da ništa ne možete uzeti za sigurno kao čvrsto znanje, čak ni pravilo množenja sa brojem dva. Takođe, važnost jezičkih igara i mehanizma utvrđivanja-potvrđivanja hipoteza (kao zamena za pravila koja nisu apsolutno određena) u procesu socijalizacije i ujednačavanja individua.

I u vašem književnom radu nalazimo poštovanje prema poznatom matematičaru Gedelu i njegovoj poslednjoj teoremi. Zašto?
- To je zato što me zbunjuje i zadivljuje već duže vreme i želeo sam da prenesem nešto od te zadivljenosti i običnim čitaocima, bez bi lo kakve matematičke pozadine u književnom kontekstu.

Šta danas Borhes znači argentinskim piscima?
- On je važna referenca i postoje ljudi koji misle da se književne struje u mojoj zemlji dele za i protiv Borhesa. Ne bih se složio sa tim dvostrukim pojednostavljivanjem. Borhes je bio književni vodič kroz književnosti širom sveta i majstor stila, ali ne smatram da uopšte postoji neka vrsta estetske tiranije od koje je neophodno osloboditi se. Za mene je on prijatelj, svojim pisanjem uspostavio je visok nivo, poput kolosa koji daje nadahnuće piscima koji dolaze.

Vujica Ognjenonić

Vijesti 29.10.05
Podjela pisaca na one za i protiv Borhesa
Giljermo Martinez
Martinez Giljermo

Roman argentinskog pisca Gižerma Martineza "Neprimjetni zločini", ovjenčan nagradom "Planeta", prestižnim književnim priznanjem španskog govornog područja, nedavno je objavila "Laguna" u prevodu Dalibora Soldatića. Roman prati sudbinu mladog argentinskog matematičara stipendiste koji dolazi u Oksford. Nekoliko dana po dolasku nalaze mrtvu staricu u čijoj je kući on iznajmio stan. To je samo prvo u nizu od ubistava koje će uslijediti. Zločin predstavlja intelektualni izazov jednom od najvećih logičara, Arturu Seldomu da nezavisno od policije krene ka rasvjetljavanju slučaja. Martinez je u ovom romanu vješto prepleo krimi priču sa vjerovanjima drevnih sekti matematičara, Gedelovom teoremom, Vitgenštajnovim filozofskim zapažanjima, pa i vještimnama mađioničara. "Neprimijetni zločini" je prividno krimi roman i sa njim je Martinez izgradio novi žanr matematičke fikcije. Osim "Neprimjetnih zločina" još dva romana Gižerma Martineza prevedena su kod nas i oba objavljena kod novosadskih "Svetova". To su: "Povijest o Rodereru" i "Maestrova žena".
Gižermo Martinez je rođen 1962. godine u Argentini, u mjestu Baija Blanha. Svoju prvu knjigu "Džungla bez zvijeri" napisao je kao tinejdžer. Doktorat iz matematike iz oblasti logike odbranio je u Buenos Ajresu, a postdoktorske studije u Oksfordu. Iz tih dana datira i njegovo prijateljstvo sa Vladimirom Tasićem, koji je kao i Martinez, doktor matematike i pisac.
Na početku razgovora za "ART Vijesti" Martinez je govorio o svom najuspješnijem romanu "Neprimjetni zločini", prvedenom na 25 jezika i velikom bestseleru u Argentini, Španiji i Velikoj Britaniji.
- Postojao je izazov da dokažem kako vjerovatnoća pretpostavke može imati jak estetski zahtjev, ne samo da oponaša stvarnost, već i da postane stvarnost. To sam pokušao ostvariti u okviru klasičnog engleskog krimi romana. Predstavljala je izazov i upotreba novih originalnih fraza, utemeljenih u matematičkom mišljenju - poput razmišljanja u nizu o čisto logičkim rješenjima (E.A. Po), zaključivanja zasnovanog na materij alnom pronalasku (Konan Dojl) i psihološko zaključivanje (Agata Kristi).

Kako biste vi odredili svoj roman "Neprimjetni zločini"? Možda kao intelektualni ili matematički triler?
- To je triler o ljepoti i traženju različitih vrsta zaključivanja. Ne smatram da je to intelektualni roman. Ja sam pokušao da napišem roman o životu i strastima ljudi kod kojih dominira apstraktno mišljenje. Naravno, jedna od njihovih strasti je da s vremena na vrijeme razgovaraju o ljepoti i dubini matematike. Ali Oksford u mom romanu je plašt i grad.

U Vašem romanu uz pomoć matematike otkrivaju se zločini. Da li svaka pojava u prirodi ima svoja pravila?
- Matematika u mom romanu je samo maska u velikoj maškaradi. Matematika je drugo prerušavanje u romanu.

Vaš roman sadrži dosta matematičkih referenci: Gedelovu teoremu, posljednju Fermaovu pretpostavku, Vitgenštajnovu filozofiju matematike, priču o pitagorejskoj sekti. Kako ste ih uklopili u narativni tok romana?
- Te stvari iz oblasti matematike se pojavljuju same za sebe, u jednom prirodnom toku radnje. Naravno, to je sasvim normalno za osobu kojoj je matematika bliska! Ti djelovi zvuče poprilično impresivno ako pišete o njima zajedno, ali teret matematike je vrlo osvijetljen u mom romanu. Matematički problemi su rasprostranjeni između kriminala, muzike, seksa i radosti i životnih tragedija.

Dokle se stiglo sa filmom po Vašem romanu "Neprimjetni zločini"?
- Upravo sam potpisao ugovor za bioskopsku adaptaciju. Biće to španska produkcija, a najvjerovatnije će režirati Aleks de la Iglesija. Jednom ste rekli kako su "matematičari zapravo umjetnici, te da je čista matematika vrsta umjetničke forme". Možete li to pojasniti? - Matematika ima posla sa formama i apstrakcijom, sa crtežima i tačnošću. Intuicija za prave odnose, inspiracija za prodor u logičko mišljenje ili elegancija iza dokaza, sve je to veoma slično sa estetskom intuicijom umjetnika.

Vaš roman "Povijest o Rodereru" je iznova ispričana priča o Faustu...
- Mislio sa m da ta stara tema može biti obnovljena pod svjetlom Gedelove teoreme (u stvari zamislio sam filozofski izvor te teoreme). Mogao sam da razmotrim neka pitanja koja se tiču istorije umjetnosti, a koja su dotaknuta u romanu "Doktor Faustus" Tomasa Mana. Malvinski rat (poznat i kao Foklandski rat, jer se vodio između Argentine i Velike Britanije zbog Foklandskih ostrva, u periodu između marta i juna 1982. godine, prim. a.) i neke čudne nesreće dali su mi pozadinu za tragediju mladih likova.

Preveli ste na španski knjigu Vladimira Tasića "Matematika i korijeni postmodernog mišljenja". Tasić, koji je kao i Vi matematičar i pisac, bio je Vaš kolega na Oksfordu. Dopada li Vam se njegovo pisanje?
- Na nesreću, nijesam u mogućnosti da Vladimirove knjige čitam u originalu, na srpskom jeziku. Dok smo bili zajedno na Oksfordu, on mi je usmeno preveo na engleski svoje prve kratke priče. One su mi se veoma dopale, i naravno, učinilo me je srećnim saznanje da je on sada sa svojim romanima postao jedan od vodećih srpskih pisaca. Da pomenem i to da je njegova knjiga o postmodernom mišljenju bila rado čitana u intelektualnim krugovima u mojoj zemlji.

Koliko je teško modernim argentinskim piscima da pišu poslije Borhesa?
- To za mene ne predstavlja teškoću. Borhes je više prijatelj i učitelj nego što je teret bilo kakve vrste. Jedna od omiljenih mitskih tvorevina u našoj kritici je podjela pisaca na one za i protiv Borhesa, bez obzira što je on bio patron, mjera i odnos svega u našoj književnosti. Ali argentinska književnost je bila uvijek bogatija i raznovrsnija od jednog imena. Smatram da moja književnost ima mnoge druge uticaje, veze i odnose ne samo sa argentinskim piscima, već i sa piscima univerzalne tradicije. U stvari, prava tradicija prosječnog argentinskog pisca je kosmopolitska biblioteka.

Napisali ste i knjigu "Borhes i matematika". Koji su to matematički tragovi u Borhesovom djelu?
- Različite vrste beskonačnosti, Paskalove sfere, Raselovi paradoksi, nizovi koji mogu biti beskonač no prekinuti, poput racionalnih brojeva, Ahilov paradoks sa kornjačom i mnogi drugi primjeri. Ali, u mojoj knjizi nijesam pokušao da privučem pažnju na te različite matematičke elemente koji se pojavljuju na jednom mjestu ili drugom, već da razumijem način na koji apstraktno mišljenje i korišćenje matematičkih primjera ima udjela u njegovom stilu i način na koji on gradi priče.

Vi ste naučnik - matematičar, ali i jedan od najpoznatijih argentinskih pisaca. Kako je počelo Vaše interesovanje za književnost i pisanje?
- Oduvijek me je interesovala književnost, još dok sam bio dijete. Moj otac je bio slab amater i veoma profilisan pisac. Moja majka je bila profesor književnosti. U stvari, matematika je mnogo kasnije ušla u moj život, sasvim slučajno za vrijeme univerzitetskih studija.

Od 1976. do 1982. godine kao što znamo, u Argentini je vladala vojna diktatura. Kakva su Vaša sjećanja na te dane i koliko su vam kao piscu interesantni događaji iz tog perioda?
- Sjećanja su mi veoma tužna. Oba moja roditelja izgubili su posao na Univerzitetu i moja porodica je dosta propatila u tom periodu straha i terora. Međutim, te stvari nijesam često pominjao u svom pisanju. Napisao sam samo dvije kratke priče koje su povezane sa tim periodom. Jedna od njih postala je moja najpoznatija kratka priča i prevedena je na mnoge jezike. Ima naslov "Infierno Grande" ("Veliki pakao"). Druga ima naslov "Retrato de un piscicultor" ("Portret odgajivača ribe").

Gedelov uticaj

Gižermo Martinez je odrastao u Njujorku, na Menhetnu i u Buenos Ajresu. U romanu "Neprimjetni zločini" Martinez se poziva na teoremu Kurta Gedela (1906-1978) američkog matematičara češkog porijekla. Gedelova teorema o nepotpunosti dokazuje da se matematika nikada neće moći svesti na primjenu utvrđenih pravila. O svom odrastanju i školovanju i Gedelovom uticaju Martinez je rekao sljedeće:
- Moji roditelji su rođeni u Argentini, oni su djeca imigranata iz Istočne Evrope i poslije Drugog svjetskog rata odlučili su da odu u SAD . Došli smo u Argentinu kada mi je bilo 18 godina i ostali smo tu skoro deset godina. Dok smo živjeli u Njujorku, Rusi su lansirali svoj prvi satelit, Sputnik. To je užasnulo Amerikance i oni su organizovali serije specijalnih kurseva u osnovnim i višim školama kako bi probudili interesovanje za nauku. Išao sam na svaki od njih. U to doba javne biblioteke na Menhetnu su bile veoma stimulativna mjesta. Dok sam bio mlađi privlačila me je teorija relativiteta, kvantna fizika i kosmologija. Ali, da bi se razumjela fizika, najprije morate savladati matematiku. Matematiku sam proučavao jer sam želio da razumijem jedan od najdubljih problema kakav nosi Gedelova teorema...

Logika krivičnih istraga

"Mi matematičari uvijek volimo da imamo utisak da možemo reći nešto što ima smisla. Bilo kako bilo, posvetio sam se tada proučavanju u drugim sredinama onoga što za sebe zovem estetika rasuđivanja. Počeo sam, kao i uvijek, od onoga što mi je djelovalo kao najjednostavniji model, ili barem najbliže: logike krivičnih istraga. Analogija s Gedelovom teoremom učinila mi se zaista privlačnom. U svakom zločinu nesumnjivo postoji pojam istine, jedno jedino istinito objašnjenje među svim mogućim; s druge strane postoje takođe materijalne indicije, činjenice koje se ne mogu osporiti, ili su barem, što bi rekao Dekart, izvan svake razumne sumnje: te bi bili aksiomi. Ali, onda se već nalazimo na poznatom terenu. Šta je krvična istraga ako ne naša vječita igra da zamislimo pretpostavke, moguća objašnjenja koja se uklapaju u činjenice i da pokušamo da ih dokažemo. Počeo sam sistematski da čitam priče o stvarnim zločinima, pregledao sam izvještaje tužilaca sudijama, proučio način vrednovanja dokaza i rasporeda elemenata presude ili oslobađanja od krivice pred sudovima. Ponovo sam iščitao, kao u mladosti, stotine kriminalističkih romana. Odnedavno sam počeo da nalazim mnoštvo sitnih, zanimljivih razlika, estetiku svojstvenu krivičnoj istrazi. A takođe i greške, hoću da kažem teorijske greške kriminalistike, možda mnogo zanimljivi je". (Iz Martinezovog romana "Neprimjetni zločini")

Vujica OGNJENOVIĆ
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

crippled_avenger

William Forsythe ("Raising Arizona", "Firestorm") will play the abusive father of Michael Myers in Rob Zombie's upcoming remake of "Halloween". Sheri Moon Zombie will play Myers mother Deborah.
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Kunac

Quote from: "crippled_avenger"William Forsythe ("Raising Arizona", "Firestorm") will play the abusive father of Michael Myers in Rob Zombie's upcoming remake of "Halloween". Sheri Moon Zombie will play Myers mother Deborah.
Postoji već topik na ovu temu - a i info nije najtačniji. Forsythe će glumiti dečka Majklove majke, ne njegovog oca.
"zombi je mali žuti cvet"

crippled_avenger

Liam Neeson is set to star in the EuropaCorp and 20th Century Fox drama "Taken" which Pierre Morel ("District B13") is directing reports Variety.

Penned by Luc Besson and Robert Mark Kamen, the story will have Neeson playing an ex-soldier whose daughter is kidnapped by slave masters while traveling in Europe.

The soldier must track her down before she's shipped off and lost forever. Production begins this Valentine's Day in Paris where the majority of the film will be shot.

Neeson next had been expected to headline "Lincoln", but with director Steven Spielberg delaying that film in favour of "Indiana Jones IV", Neeson now has a schedule hole and this is the first project to fill it.
Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

crippled_avenger

Nema potrebe da zalis me, mene je vec sram
Nema potrebe da hvalis me, dobro ja to znam

Ghoul

vesti sa nezaobilaznog http://www.kfccinema.com/


We reported earlier that Park Chan-wook's next project will be the long awaited vampire project he hinted about in 2004 when he was doing his segment Cut for Three... Extremes.

The Korean Times this morning reported that it was his next project entitled Bat. Korean entertainment site Cine21 and a few others list it as Evil Live.

Neither of the titles are catchy, but I am sure a new title will be popping up in the next few months as this gets into production.

Nothing really has been revealed about the project, but we have been able to find out that Song Kang Ho has been cast already. Another bit of info comes to us by forum member Khitcher who reveals that Song Kang Ho will be playing a priest who has been infected. Based on early interviews done last year. It is not clear if Song Kang Ho's character has already been infected or if he is slowly becoming a Vampire.
Stay tune for more updates as more blood is spilt on this project.


vise detalja ima ovde:
http://www.kfccinema.com/xtemplex/index.php?showtopic=13613
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Meho Krljic

Zvuči obećavajuće, cijenim da će PCW ovde demonstrirati ljubav prema gotskoj estetici i prema bezumnom prolivanju krvi. Mada, pošto je sveštenik, biće tu sigurno dosta egzistencjalnog užasa koje će pratiti transformaciju... Iako me Lejdi Vendžens nije oborila s nogu, ovo bi moglo...

Ghoul

meni je lady ozbiljno uzdrmala štivanje ka čanvuku, a ovaj cyborg crap mi takođe ne zvuči obećavajuće (ali molim se azatotu da grešim!)...
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Meho Krljic

Cyborg... crap? Nisam učlanjen u KFC pa ne znam na šta se ova referenca odnosi... A Lejdi... pa... imao sam utisak da je PCW prvo osmislio poslednjih četrdeset minuta filma, a onda se mučio da do njih dođe... Dobro, oklizne se svako....

Ghoul

Quote from: "Meho Krljic"Cyborg... crap? Nisam učlanjen u KFC pa ne znam na šta se ova referenca odnosi...

imas DETALJAN info o za sada poslednjem canvuku ovde:
http://www.kfccinema.com/xtemplex/index.php?showtopic=6029&hl=i'm+a+cyborg

a uclanjenje je besplatno i jednostavno, za slucaj da ovo ne mozes da otvoris direktno ako nisi clan...
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Warner Bros. has picked up film rights to an upcoming book about the mysterious death of former KGB agent Alexander Litvinenko.

IEG & Johnny Depp's Infinitum Nihil will develop the project which could be a potential starring vehicle for Depp reports Variety.

New York Times London bureau chief Alan Cowell is penning the tome "Sasha's Story: The Life and Death of a Russian Spy" due for release later this year.

In London, the investigation continues into the death of Litvinenko, who was poisoned at least once in late November by polonium-210. Just before his death, he blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin's regime for the murder.

Cowell will document Litvinenko's life and poisoning, as well as address the implications of the case for nuclear proliferation and international terrorism.
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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with my thoughts on Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN remake script.

Let's get the background out of the way first. I liked the first 10 minutes of HOUSE OF 1000 CORPSES, but it went downhill after that, turning into a boring exercise in style over substance. However, Zombie won me back with DEVIL'S REJECTS. I can point to some dialog that didn't work, but overall the tone he captured, the characters he gave us and superb casting of horror icons really won me over. To this day, I think REJECTS made good on the promise he was making about CORPSES being a return to hard edged '70s exploitation.

I am a gonzo huge fan of John Carpenter's original HALLOWEEN. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say I've seen that movie 50 times from start to finish. I'm very protective of it, but at the same time I recognize how shitty the sequels got. The only film I really hold up on a pedestal is the original, though I love HALLOWEEN II and get a bizarre kick out of the Michael Myers-less 3... but that could be due to my idol worship of Tom Atkins.

So, I wasn't the biggest fan of the idea of remaking HALLOWEEN, but having loved the '70s feel of REJECTS and seeing that Zombie seemed to hold HALLOWEEN as dearly as I did, I thought I'd give him a chance. I'm not automatically against a remake if there's someone really interesting involved, like when Carpenter remade THE THING. He had an interesting vision and made an incredible film. Hell, I even really liked the ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 13 remake that came out a couple years ago.

So it was that I cracked open the script. And so it is that I'm writing this now, absolutely befuddled.

I'm hoping the script I read (a long script, at 125 pages) is a very, very, very early draft. Even if it is, there are some very fundamental things wrong with it.

The script starts out with a home movie of the Myers family, which freezes on a gap-toothed young Michael Myers grinning for the camera. The title HALLOWEEN is placed here. From this point on, we're treated to over 40 pages of the Young Michael Myers Chronicles. In these adventures, bullies pick on him, his stripper mom's redneck boyfriend (to be played by William Forsythe) calls him a faggot and keeps talking about fucking his mom in front of him and the 10 year old Myers masturbates to Polaroids of various animals he's killed while listening to them die on playback from his trusty tape recorder.

Look. This is a remake, so of course I was expecting some things to change. I would have been kind of pissed if it was just a retread, but what I really find myself disappointed with is the lack of understanding Zombie is showing on why Michael Myers works. In the original film, Myers was bigger than a serial killer or a psychopath. He was evil. Unemotional. Uncaring. He was the boogeyman. Hence the ending line. His character was never even referred to in the script as Michael, but as The Shape.

When you explain away Michael, giving him modern day serial killer hellish upbringing, you take away his power. He no longer represents a myth bigger than a person, he doesn't represent death incarnate. He's just an average psycho in a mask. There's nothing special to him anymore.

I was hoping that Zombie, as a professed fan of Carpenter's film, would understand that and it's my biggest disappointment in the script that Zombie doesn't seem to.

There was even a point, around the time 10 year old Myers is in Loomis' care and chatting it up while coloring paper masks, that I thought I might have a fake script. But the script is filled with new characters that Zombie has cast, like Big Joe Grizzly (Ken Foree) and Ronnie White (Forsythe) and Nole Kluggs (Lew Temple), that there's not a real possibility that I got a fake. So, the hope is still there that it's a very early draft and the reason that hope is there is thus: A) There seem to be about 2 typos per page and B) A cast character, Ismael Cruz (Danny Trejo), is not in the script I read. Every other character who has been cast is in it and there are a ton of roles I can see Trejo in.

So, let's get back to the script a bit. There are two ideas in the new script that I really like. Despite Michael's rough childhood, he always showed affection towards the baby, nicknamed "Boo." Followers of the Halloween series will know why that is important and if you don't know, I'd advise you to stop reading. I'm not going to ruin new, specific beats, but I am going to talk about this as a fan of the mythos of the series.

Of course, "Boo" is baby Laurie. If it was up to me, I'd show Myers as an emotionless kid, always kind of blank, but a glimmer pops up whenever he sees the baby. I like the idea of him drawn to her and that giving him a reason for seeking her out later.

I also quite like the idea of spending some time with Dr. Loomis trying to get through to Michael. Ideally, it'd be a good place to explore Loomis as a character. He shouldn't be having conversations with Myers, he should be slowly realizing what he doesn't want to. If Michael's pure evil, without having a reason to be evil (no verbally abusive father figure or mean bullies), it flies in the face of everything Dr. Loomis believes in as a psychiatrist. That is where Loomis' obsession with Myers comes from. That's fascinating to me.

Here, Dr. Loomis falls into the background. This is all Michael Myers all the time, which is another mistake. Zombie forgoes Myers being a quiet shell, with dead eyes, from the moment Loomis sees him. We see his mood swings, he chats away and colors in different pieces of paper to make masks that we find out later, when we meet the adult Michael Myers, that he uses them to represent his mood, including when he needs to take a shit. In Michael Myers' mind, he goes, "It's about time I put on the 'I gotta take a shit' mask so I can express myself."

We meet adult Michael Myers on page 48 and here's another shocker. There's a reason Tyler Mane was cast. Michael Myers is described in the script as being 6'10" and 280lbs. Again, that strikes me as being untrue to the original character. Making him a hulk of a being kind of puts him into the Jason or Leatherface realm, no?

As an adult, Michael Myers feels like an amalgam of the Myers we know and Leatherface from the CHAINSAW remakes. He's big and he chases people down. Gone is the sure and steady, calm and unemotional Myers.

Laurie Strode isn't introduced until page 69 and the final moments of Myers stalking Haddonfield don't really happen until the last 20/25 pages. And yes, it does feel rushed.

And yes, adult Michael Myers, with the mask, does speak. Ugg... And yes, they try to show Myers' "human" side in the last act. Double Ugg...

The good news is just from a pure exploitation angle, Zombie included lots of gore and a ridiculous amount of nudity. It's going to really weird me out if Hanna R. Hall (the first Jenny in Forrest Gump) reveals as much as the script requires Judith Myers to reveal. And the 10 year old Myers groping her before stabbing her is also going to freak me out a tad. Sheri Moon's character is always wearing something skimpy in the script and Danielle Harris' Annie (a great move casting Harris, by the way) gets very exposed. Actually, pretty much every female in the script except for Laurie Strode, will get naked. Great. I just wish he'd make that a different movie, take the mask out of it, change the names and not draw the comparisons.

I can see Malcolm McDowell (another great bit of casting) being excellent in the role of Dr. Loomis and I can see him making some of the weak dialog work just out of sheer charisma and talent, but compared to the Donald Pleasance Loomis, I'm afraid he's going to fall short. This Loomis, as written, is too weak and when he goes a little mental trying to talk people into the threat of Myers he just comes off as annoying.

The script has a very high body count, ample nudity and a solid cast. But I firmly believe Zombie completely missed the boat on Myers and is making a big mistake with the story. The script really feels like he just wants to make Halloween... but super-badass hardcore and fuckin' extreme, without a thought to the character work that went into the original. The dialog is distractingly bad at times. He does keep Lynda's overuse of the word totally, but then he adds in Annie and Lynda always calling each other "bitch" every time they see each other. "Hey bitches!"

If I can get my hands on a the shooting draft I will. I wanted this to work, but the script I read is a real disappointment. Hopefully there are some big changes from the draft I read. And I mean big. You can play around with a lot of things... setting, style, camera movement and certain characters, but to mess with Michael Myers as a movie monster is unforgivable.

-Quint
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A day after it was announced that Johnny Depp and Warner Bros. Pictures were developing a film about the death of former KGB agent Alexander Litvinenko, a rival project has sprung up.

Sony Pictures has revealed that filmmaker Michael Mann ("Heat", "Collateral", "Miami Vice") is attached to produce and direct a "wide-ranging espionage thriller" about the incident based on the forthcoming book "Death of a Dissident" by Litvinenko's close friend Alexander Goldfarb.

Goldfarb was instrumental in helping Litvinenko defect from Russia to Britain. Litvinenko died of radiation poisoning in London in November under mysterious circumstance that many see as the basis for an international spy movie says The Hollywood Reporter.

Sony has also has acquired the life rights for Litvinenko's widow Marina and says their film will explore "the collision between the deep-rooted Russian power structure -- enforced by the KGB and its successor, the FSB -- and the new wave of wild west capitalism that came on the heels of glasnost".
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Ben Stiller plans to star in and direct "Tropic Thunder", a high concept comedy that he's been developing ever since he worked on Steven Spielberg's "Empire of the Sun" way back in 1987.

The story is about the making of a big-budget war movie where everything that can go wrong does, and where the actors end up becoming the commandos they are playing.

Stiller wrote the script with Etan Cohen ("Madagascar 2 ") and actor Justin Theroux. Production Weekly reports that principle photography is scheduled to begin in July.
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Finally someone seems to be planning an idea I've had floating around in my head for a while - take a popular series of novels utilising the same characters and turn each book into a season's worth of shows.

HBO is trying that with plans to turn George R.R. Martin's bestselling fantasy series "A Song of Fire and Ice" into a drama series by David Benioff ("Troy", "Wolverine") and D.B. Weiss ("Halo").

Benioff and Weiss will write every episode of each season together save one, which the author (a former TV writer) will script. Shooting will take place either in Europe or New Zealand.

Variety indicates that the series will begin with the 1996 first book, "A Game of Thrones," and will turn each novel into a season's worth of episodes, Martin has nearly finished the fifth of seven installments.

The books follow the flawed characters from seven noble families and has a decidedly adult bent, with sex and violence comparable to series like "Rome" and "Deadwood".

The whole thing makes one wonder what other book series would be good to adapt in the same or similar formats - maybe Anne Rice's work or Stephen King's Dark Tower series.
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"Deadwood" and "Live Free or Die Hard" star Timothy Olyphant is confirmed to have been cast in the lead role in the Luc Besson-produced pic "Hitman" at Twentieth Century Fox.

Skip Woods' script is based on the "Hitman" videogame franchise set in the world of Agent 47, a genetically engineered assassin.

Fox sees the film as having franchise potential, and Olyphant's deal allows for sequels reports Variety.

Vin Diesel was previously attached as the lead but dropped out in favour of Fox's big-budget tentpole "Babylon A.D."

Xavier Gens will helm and production begins March in Europe.
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Meho Krljic

Iako sam fan Vina Dizelaša, nikako nisam mogao da ga vidim u ulozi agenta 47 u Hitmenu. Mislim, jeste ćelav, što je pozitivno ali ne uklapa mi se nikako u lik kakav smo igrali i zavoleli u igrama iz ove franšize...

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"Del Toro's other Bay Area buddy, writer/director Matthew Robbins, is heading into production on Riding Shotgun with Michael Caine, one of a half-dozen scripts the filmmakers wrote together. "We jokingly call it King Lear in a limo full of coke, with only one daughter," del Toro confided during a recent visit. "Matthew and I met in the Sundance Screenwriters Lab; I was the pupil, he was the teacher. We started talking, and he started fixing my script and I started fixing his. I said, "Why don't we write together?' Every day, we have one to four long-distance phone calls. I basically talk to him as much, if not more, than I talk to my wife." Perhaps it's not a coincidence that del Toro embraces mentors. "I'm always attracted in a strange way to stories about fathers and sons, or about paternal figures and children," he explained. His latest ghostly tale, The Devil's Backbone (opening Friday), certainly qualifies."

Film je krenuo u laganu produkciju, ali najverovatnije ga nece  rezirati del Toro...
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Ghoul

Quote from: "Zika Kisobranac"His latest ghostly tale, The Devil's Backbone (opening Friday),

crni žiko, iz koje ti je godine ova vest?
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ma, beli ghoule, sama vest o scenariju je odavno, nego mi sad dopalo shaka dotichno del Torovo pisanije, te sam se malo raspitao sta se s tim deshava, i reko da javim da se film najzad pocheo pripremati... scenario je lutao malo po produkcijskim kucama, ali sada se na svemu pocelo ozbiljno raditi, i koliko mi se chini, Caine nije vishe u igri... sledece nedelje cu znati i ko je planiran za reditelja, tako da Vozeci Satgan moze ugledati reflektore seta ove godine...
dok U planinama lud'la chami, Shatgan bi mogao biti del Torov sledeci kredit.
u stvari, to sam hteo da kazem. :roll:
(al je ispalo tak trapavo. vidi potpis.)
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Clive Owen has convinced Universal Pictures and Strike Entertainment to option the Raymond Chandler series of hard-nosed mystery novels featuring Philip Marlowe. Dick Powell played him first in my favorite film noir of all time, MURDER, MY SWEET (aka Farewell My Lovely) - then two years later Bogie played him in THE BIG SLEEP. Then the next year, Robert Montgomery played him in LADY IN THE LAKE. For 25 years the character slept, till Robert Altman cast Elliot Gould in THE LONG GOODBYE. Then in 75 and 78 - Robert Mitchum played Philip in FAREWELL MY LOVELY and THE BIG SLEEP.

According to the Variety story - Universal and Clive seem intent on keeping the character in his original period and setting... with Clive chewing and spitting out the hardboiled narration. I CAN NOT FRIGGIN WAIT!

Will they attempt to start at the beginning - or work on the novels that haven't been adapted - or use some of the short stories. We'll see - right now they're looking for directors and writers. This is definitely some damn cool news!
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lilit

That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Meho Krljic

Quotewith Clive chewing and spitting out the hardboiled narration. I CAN NOT FRIGGIN WAIT

Baš!!!

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Commercials director Thor Freudenthal has been hired to direct "They Came From Upstairs" for 20th Century Fox reports Variety.

The story centers on a group of kids defending their vacation home in Maine from aliens who have invaded from upstairs.

Freudenthal also has experience in creature design, something he'll be doing for "They Came From Upstairs."

Penned by British scribe Mark Burton ("Madagascar," "Wallace & Gromit"). Shooting is slated to begin in May.
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lilit

muz mi je pre 2 dana ispricao "new marlowe story", ali sam zaboravila da postujem.
sad samo treba docekati... :(
OT,
nedavno sam, ponovo, gledala film Bent ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118698/ ). klajv je tu toliko dobar da mi je prosto neverovatno sta uradi u arturu.
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

crippled_avenger

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In the classic sci-fi monster flick The Thing, Hawks pitted a group of Army Air Corps tough guys and paranoid scientists against a deadly walking vegetable at the North Pole. With nowhere to run, surrounded by hundreds of miles of forbidding pack ice, our heroes had to face the beast or die.     
Mile Zero, a new thriller by up and coming screenwriter Holly Brix, takes on the frigid fright concept and updates it with a more sophisticated and sinister psychological spin.
In this claustrophobic chiller, a young heroine gets a job at a remote Alaskan drilling station in an attempt to clear her father's name in a string of gruesome murders that occurred years before. When members of the drilling crew begin to disappear under mysterious circumstances, the true history of the facility begins to thaw.

da me ghoul ne bi opet grdio kako postavljam bajate vesti, ovaj projekat je "u razvijanju" vec 4 godine, ali sad je najmljen jedaj dobar reditelj u celu prichu - dzon dal.
ako sve legne kako treba, zvuci interesantno da dzon dal rezira nularicu milju, film koji bi mogao biti cudan susret stvora, osmog putnika i... hm, panovog lavirinta.
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Justin Lin ("The Fast & The Furious: Tokyo Drift") has been attached for some time to the remake of Korean revenge classic "Oldboy".

At the time he stated he wouldn't remake it unless it was perfect, but at the time nothing was happening with the film.

This week at the Sundance Film Festival, Lin tells Bloody Disgusting that right now it doesn't look like the project will happen at all.

Lin says "he has a lot of other projects in the works and that the only way he'd make it is if everything "gelled" together right. He loves the original film and wouldn't want to disrespect it" according to the site.
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French director Xavier Gens talked to Allocine recently about his plans for the film adaptation of Eidoe video game series "Hitman".

First up will be dark and violent along "Robocop" lines rather than "a fun popcorn movie like The Transporter".

Emphasis will be placed on the loneliness of the hero and his quest for identity, along with a violent and dark narrative.

The atmosphere of the game will be closely followed. Score will be orchestral and operatic in nature and photography inspired largely by Robert Richardson's work for Scorcese's "Casino".
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Columbia Pictures has picked up the thriller "Le Voyeur" for Will Smith and James Lassiter to produce says Reuters.

Penned by Massy Tadjedin, it centers on a man who returns to the Caribbean island of his youth and becomes a suspect in the murder of a teenage girl that was committed two days after his arrival.

The story is based on a 1955 French novel by Alain Robbe-Grillet. Nearly five years ago the project was set up at Universal Pictures with Kevin Misher and Akiva Goldsman producing.

The less than $10 million budgeted film is currently shooting in New York.
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Universal has acquired Black Swan, a psychological thriller for Darren Aronofsky to direct, says Variety. The film will be produced by Aronofsky's Protozoa and Mike Medavoy's Phoenix Pictures.

John McLaughlin has begun writing the film that looks at the manipulative relationship between a veteran dancer and a rival. The studio is fast-tracking the project for Aronofsky, who most recently helmed The Fountain.

Eric Watson, who partners with Aronofsky in their Universal-based Protozoa, will produce with Phoenix's Medavoy and Arnie Messer. Brad Fischer and David Thwaites will executive produce.
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"The Good Shepherd" saw an examination of the birth of the CIA, now plans are underway for a vaguely similar flick about the birth of the famously efficient British special forces unit - The Special Air Services (S.A.S.).

Scribe Rupert Walters (TV's "Spooks", "Restoration") is penning a screenplay on the wartime activities of soldier and S.A.S. founder David Stirling for HandMade Films says The Hollywood Reporter.

Based on Alan Hoe's authorized biography, it gives a detailed account of 26-year-old Stirling leading the first successful "special operations" raid behind German lines in North Africa in December 1941.

Over the course of the next year with his unit, the SAS was formed and became the oldest and most famous of special forces units in the world - inspiring similar units such as Hong Kong's SDU and the United States' Delta Force regiments.
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Universal Pictures and Imagine Entertainment have set Oliver Hirschbiegel ("Downfall", "The Invasion") to direct and Braulio Mantovani ("City of God") to write "The School."

Brian Grazer will produce the drama about the three-day siege of a Russian elementary school by armed Chechen rebels in 2004 reports Variety.

Rebels turned the first day of school in Beslan into a bloody nightmare, seizing 1,100 hostages; by the time the smoke cleared, 300 were dead, including 31 terrorists.

The writer and director would like to shoot the film in Russian language and populate it with Russian actors and non-pros to make it more believable.
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