RUSSIA TODAY

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pokušavam da budem britanski đentlmen!

[Джон Рейнольдс]

Усрашама коначно дошло из дупета у... горње дупе да би могли да се удруже са својим природним савезницима, бандеровцима из батаљона "Азов" који делује на страни "нисмо ми нацисти већ проевропљани" украјинске војске. Још мало па ми је драго како се све лепо уклапа.

[Anomander Rejk]

Loni, reaguj!Ruske vojne baze na teritoriji EU!Nedopustivo, sumrak demokratije!
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/533314/RUSKA-BAZA-U-EVROPI-Ovo-su-vrata-kojim-Putinova-armija-moze-da-udje-u-EU

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Cyprus denies 'Russia deal on military bases'
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31293330

Ovo se svi zaebavaju od Ciprasa do Putina

[varvarin]

CNN  OBJAVIO ISTINITU  VEST !!!

http://rt.com/usa/230759-cnn-us-troops-ukraine/

Freudian slip? CNN says Obama considers arming pro-US troops...in Ukraine.   

Social media is abuzz after CNN labeled Ukrainian forces involved in Kiev's deadly military operation in the country's southeast as "pro-US troops." Online comments are calling it a Freudian slip, claiming it unmasks the true agenda behind the conflict...

[Anomander Rejk]

Još jedan paradoks. ,,Ujaci'' u Ukrajini moraju da ratuju-pod ćirilicom.

[Джон Рейнольдс]

Ма неће ти ратовати ништа, биће као Зосков деда под Стаљинградом - вратиће се као Југословени.

[varvarin]

http://www.vostok.rs/index.php?option=btg_novosti&idnovost=71637&Egipat-ulazi-u-slobodnu-trgovinsku-zonu-Evroazijske-unije#.VNsRNLc1iUk

Египат улази у слободну трговинску зону Евроазијске уније

Председник Путин је саопштио у Каиру да Египат улази у Евроазијску зону слободне трговине, коју предводи Москва...

[Ugly MF]

u jebote... znate sta se desi kad neko odbaci dollar?
odma brka u interese covecanstva, svetski policajac ima sundjerasti pedrek i mora da cucne kad piski...
automatski to je anti-demokratski, a sve sto je anti-demokratski, treba prirodno selektirati ,jelte...

[Meho Krljic]

Primirje u Ukrajini dogovoreno. Da vidimo kako će to da se razvija...


Marathon talks produce Ukraine peace deal; cease-fire Sunday

MINSK, Belarus (AP) — Guns will fall silent, heavy weapons will pull back from the front, and Ukraine will trade a broad autonomy for the east to get back control of its Russian border by the end of this year under a peace deal hammered out Thursday in all-night negotiations between Russia, Ukraine, France and Germany.

The deal was full of potential pitfalls that could derail its implementation, however. In announcing the plan, Russia and Ukraine differed over what exactly they had agreed to in marathon 16-hour talks, including the status of a key town now under rebel siege.

Russian President Vladimir Putin told reporters that the agreement envisages a cease-fire beginning Sunday (2200 GMT (5 p.m. EST) Saturday) as well as a special status for Ukraine's separatist regions and provisions to address border concerns and humanitarian issues.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said there was no agreement on any autonomy or federalization for eastern Ukraine, a longtime demand of Russia, which wants that to maintain leverage over Ukraine and prevent it from ever joining NATO.

The deal, however, requires the Ukrainian parliament to give wide powers to the eastern regions as a condition for restoring Ukraine's full control over its border with Russia — a provision certain to trigger heated political debate in Kiev.

Uncertainty remained even on the cease-fire, as Putin admitted that he and Poroshenko disagreed on the situation at a key eastern flashpoint, the government-held town of Debaltseve.

"We now have a glimmer of hope," said German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who brokered the talks in the Belarusian capital of Minsk together with French President Francois Hollande. "But the concrete steps of course have to be taken, and we will still face major obstacles. But, on balance, I can say what we have achieved gives significantly more hope than if we had achieved nothing."

More than 5,300 people have died since April in the fighting in eastern Ukraine between Russian-backed separatists and government troops. Battles continued to rage Thursday even as the four leaders were holding peace talks.

The new deal envisages a buffer zone created by pulling back heavy artillery and rocket systems 50 to 140 kilometers (31 to 87 miles) away from the front line, depending on their caliber. The withdrawal should begin no later than the second day after the cease-fire becomes effective and it should be completed within two weeks.

In a win for Ukraine, the rebel regions, which held their own elections last fall that Ukraine and the West declared a sham, are obliged to hold a new local vote under the Ukrainian law.

But in a key concession to Russia, the deal says the restoration of Ukrainian control over the border with Russia in rebel-controlled areas could be completed only by the end of 2015 on the condition that Ukraine conducts a constitutional reform granting wide powers to the eastern regions, including the right to form their own police force and trade freely with Russia.


"It was not the best night in my life, but the morning, I think, is good because we have managed to agree on the main things despite all the difficulties of the negotiations," Putin told reporters.

Hollande said he and Merkel are committed to helping verify the cease-fire process in Ukraine, hailing the deal as a "relief to Europe."

In Kiev, Ukrainian military spokesman Andriy Lysenko said despite the ongoing peace talks, Russia overnight sent 50 tanks and a dozen heavy weapons into Ukraine across the rebel-controlled border.

A previous cease-fire agreed in September fell apart as Ukrainian forces and the rebels both tried to gain more ground.

Poroshenko stressed that the agreement contains "a clear commitment to withdraw all foreign troops, all mercenaries from the territory of Ukraine," a reference to the Russian soldiers and weapons that Ukraine and the West say Russia has sent into eastern Ukraine to back the rebels.
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Moscow has denied the accusations, saying any Russia fighters were volunteers, but the sheer number of sophisticated heavy weapons in the rebels' possession belies the denial.

Merkel said, in the end, Putin exerted pressure on the separatists to get them to agree to the cease-fire.

"I have no illusions, we have no illusions. A great, great deal of work is still necessary. But there is a real chance to make things better," she said.

The French-German diplomatic dash came as President Barack Obama considered sending U.S. lethal defensive weapons to Ukraine, a move that European nations feared would only widen the hostilities.

The urgency felt by all sides appeared to be underlined by the extraordinary length and discomfort of the talks, which began Wednesday evening and continued uninterrupted through the night. Crowds of reporters waited anxiously in a marble-floored, chandeliered convention hall in Minsk, with one whisked away by doctors to be treated for exhaustion, according to the Interfax news agency.


While the four leaders hailed the agreement, it Russia and Ukraine still disagreed on how to end the fighting around Debaltseve, a key transport hub between the two main rebel-held eastern cities.

Putin said the rebels consider the Ukrainian forces surrounded and expect them to surrender, while Ukraine says its troops have not been blocked.

The Russian leader said the peace deal also determines a division line from which heavy weapons will be pulled back.

The line of division and other key provisions were in a document endorsed by rebel chiefs and the representatives of Russia, Ukraine and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. That agreement was endorsed by the four European leaders, who issued a separate declaration.

"We were presented with various unacceptable conditions of withdrawal and surrender," Poroshenko said. "We did not agree to any ultimatums and stated firmly that the cease-fire that is announced is unconditional."

Rebel leaders lauded the agreement and said they're willing to give Kiev another chance.

"(We) give this chance to Ukraine to change its constitution, to change its attitude," Luhansk rebel leader Igor Plotnitsky said on Russian television.

Donetsk rebel leader Alexander Zakharchenko said he will blame Kiev if the cease-fire collapses and then there "will be no meetings and no new agreements."

[tomat]

do nedelje - udri iz sve snage!

[Meho Krljic]

Pa šta uzmu - uzmu.

[Anomander Rejk]

Debaljcevo palo, poprilično porazno za ukrajinsku vojsku...Porošenko trai mirovne snage.
Neki su prošle godine tvrdili kako će pobunjenici za tri nedelje biti gotovi.
No, međutim...

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do srede - udri iz sve snage!

fiksd

[scallop]

NATO paranoja i deluzije postaju nemerljive. Laži tako postaju smešnije.


http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/536086/Britanski-ministar-Rusija-za-Baltik-sprema-isti-scenario-kao-za-Krim-NATO-mora-da-bude-spreman

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a u drugoj vijesti ruski avioni malo obletali oko Britanije, ludlo

ođe se nešto žestoko kuva a kaće se skuva neznamo

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http://www.blic.rs/Zabava/Vesti/537604/ZBOG-PUTINA-U-ZATVOR-Italijanskoj-glumici-preti-kazna-zbog-vecere-sa-ruskim-predsednikom

[scallop]

Ne da se Džon Keri. Neka se paze svi koji su večerali sa Putinom.

[Meho Krljic]

Eh, Počuča, Počuča...

Počuča "uhapšen" jer je planirao ubistvo u Donjecku

[Boban]

Od pre neki dan, kada se naručuje roba iz Kine za Srbiju, dobija se obračun u rubljama i vode nas kao Srbija u Rusiji.
Da li to Kinezi znaju nešto što je nama promaklo?

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šta si opet islobodanisao?

[varvarin]

http://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/svet.php?yyyy=2015&mm=04&dd=23&nav_id=984253

Gasprom zapretio: Obustavićemo gas

Moskva/Njujork -- Ruski gasni gigant Gasprom prvi put je zapretio da će obustaviti snadbevanje Evrope prirodnim gasom, ako projekat gasovoda Turski tok bude blokiran...

[tomat]

https://youtu.be/tyz1eJoSeIY

[Ugly MF]

jeah!

https://zlj13051967.wordpress.com/2015/05/02/rusija-i-putin-su-stali-na-put-americkom-osvajanju-sveta/

[Džek]

http://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/svet.php?yyyy=2015&mm=04&dd=23&nav_id=984253

Gasprom zapretio: Obustavićemo gas

Moskva/Njujork -- Ruski gasni gigant Gasprom prvi put je zapretio da će obustaviti snadbevanje Evrope prirodnim gasom, ako projekat gasovoda Turski tok bude blokiran...

Dušice moje slovenske, dobre, tolerantne i fine... trebalo je to ranije uraditi, dok je bilo jebanije oko južnog toka. Pa više od pola nemačke privrede zavisi od "erdgasa"
Ipak, Putin se drži svojih prepoštenih i nasleđenih načela. Sve vreme hladnog rata, još od završetka ww2, sovjeti su uredno isporučivali gas. Merkelova to ne zaboravlja, ali je ipak vezana onim svojim potpisom, aktom o poslušnosti americi, koji svaki kancelar mora da šarne...

Lično mislim da je švabama pun kufer amerikanizacije, lično sam to osetio sedamdesetih i osamdesetih kao klinac, dok su moji bili auslenderi tamo u bavarskoj.

[džin tonik]

mda, a u medjuvremenu vole amere ko ruse.

[SIMERIJANAC]

Priveden zbog Majdana usred Beograda

http://rs.sputniknews.com/srbija/20150511/1849205.html#ixzz3Zr1Vpn3x

[džin tonik]

bitno da vam nije dosadno u vasem cemu god...

Dramaturg, scenarista i filmski kritičar Dimitrije Vojnov slaže se da film na tendenciozan način predstavlja događaje na Majdanu, umanjujući element ekstremne desnice i fašističkih simbola, prilagođavajući priču za konzumaciju na Zapadu.

dimi, genije!!!

,,Ja sam samo koristio demokratske metode protesta, bio sam jasan i nisam mu dozvoljavao da širi fašističku propagandu. Kako on kaže — Lenjin ubica, sovjetski totalitarizam; ja kažem — ne možeš to da pričaš u Beogradu...

phahaha! to ako te i uhvati, prerastes negdje izmedju 15. i 17. f e n o m e n a l n o!
sve sami strucnjaci za demokraciju, zapad i humane znanosti.

[Anomander Rejk]

Ma da, a ti kao veruješ u čuda, spontanosti i da je Majdan bio ,,događanje naroda''.
Lenjinov ili korporativni totalitarizam, u čemu je razlika?U jednom imaš kolhoze, gulage, streljanja ,,antirevolucionara'', u drugom Odesu, Gvantanamo, špijuniranje sopstvenog naroda, obojene ,,revolucije'',Irak, Libiju, Afganistan, Jemen, WW1,WW2.

[džin tonik]

meni svejedno smedji ili crveni fasisti; izgrednik ocigledno daleko veci od napadnutog.
u biti retardirana retorika, djetinjasto.
dalje, ukrajina nije moj rat. niti smo u 1938., ali naravno ima moju podrsku, jer iz rusije nikad nista dobro nije stiglo.
hvala lijepo, cmokic i sretno, pa-pa braci rusima, tamo negdje daleko, molim sto dalje.

[Anomander Rejk]

Pa pričaš kao da si u 38oj.
Nema više crvenih (osim u  Koreji,Srbiji i Hrvatskoj). Sada su svuda smeđi i crni. U Moskvi je kapitalizam. A i u Pekingu. Putin nema ideologiju, niti ga zanima. Lova, energenti, to ga zanima. Kao i Zapad. A kad sve ovo mine, Berlin će i dalje tesno sarađivati sa Moskvom, jer ih povezuju ekonomije i kapital. Za Ukrajinu ih zabole levo jaje, jel se nešto uzbudila Merkelova oko Krima?Jok, eno je sedi sa Putinom. Tako da ne troši pozdrave uzalud, Rusi su tu, i u tvom dvorištu, i ostaće tu.
Jbga, kapital ne poznaje granice, niti ga interesuje moralna strana onoga s kim trguje. Tako ti je to.

[mac]

... iz rusije nikad nista dobro nije stiglo.

Kako, a gas? Svemirska stanica Mir? Braća Karamazovi? Ima valjda ponešto da se probere...

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Nadam se da misliš na roman Braća Karamazovi, a ne na samu braću Karamazove

[džin tonik]

dobro, ali moze li tko ponuditi jedan jedini racionalni razlog zasto bi rusija u kojem god izdanju bila bliskija od njemacke?

[mac]

Ruski narod može da primeni izvestan pritisak na izvršnu vlast, toliki da vlast bude primorana da Srbiji učini neke ustupke koje inače nije planirala. Nemački narod u teoriji ima istu tu moć, ali u praksi je nikad neće iskoristiti za Srbe. Možda bi za Hrvate, mada i to sumnjam.

[džin tonik]

ustupci = milost, budimo ozbiljni.

[Dybuk]

Razlozi su i sentimentalne i istorijske prirode. U medjuvremenu, ostatak sveta pociva na raciju i interesima.

Ja mislim da ovde nije pitanje Rusija ili Nemacka vec je pitanje (vazda bilo) Rusija ili Amerika.

Nikad me nije bilo briga za Rusiju i Ruse, ali americku spoljnu politiku ненавижу. Tako da sam naglo stekla izvesnu simpatiju, mada su na neki nacin isti, dve sile, svako radi sta hoce, mali mogu samo da kukaju i veruju, trude se da steknu naklonost i izbegnu bes jedne ili druge. Jbg biras manje zlo.
Kad procitam kako ameri spasavaju svet a zli rusi su maltene reinkarnacija fasista svest mi mrkne. 
Nemo ko Ruse da mi dira

[mac]

Srbi su mali narod. Hrvati još manji. Moćni narodi ne gledaju na nas kao na partnere, a još manje kao sebi ravnopravne. A i zašto bi...

[džin tonik]

@mac: wo ein wille ist, ist auch ein weg.

@dibuk: lolchina! sentimantalne prirode? ww2? to sto se na prostoru ex-yu u mjesec dana izdivljali vise no nijemci u cetiri godine?!

[Dybuk]

Ne uzbudjuj se zosko, ne nastupam kao istoricar i vojni analiticar ovde, govorim koji je moj licni utisak.
Meni je glavno ovo: izmedju rusa i amera moje simpatije su na ruskoj strani. To je to.

[Anomander Rejk]

Ma da, Nemci ne divljaju kao varvarski Rusi, to je kulturan svet, samo im se ponekad omakne neko masovno streljanje tipa Kragujevac, ili neko tamanjenje gasom tipa Aušvic.

[džin tonik]

bah, izmedju amera i rusa, moje simpatije na mojoj su strani. ne dozivljavam ih, ali srbima ocigledno uvijek treba veliki "prijatelj"...

[Dybuk]

Svim malim narodima treba veliki 'prijatelj' i 'nama' i 'vama'. To je jasno. Ja bih najradije da veliki ne prckaju i ne preraspodeljuju kako im dune, al oces djavola.

[džin tonik]

brkamo nekoliko pojmova: simpatiju, politiku, ekonomiju...
uopce se ne dozivljavam toliko malim. uzmimo amere: uvezli su crnca, pocetak kraja, ade. rusi: rusi redovno decimiraju sami sebe. imaju sve, ali nista im ne vrijedi. prolazni su.
stara europa nedokuciva.

[Dybuk]

Ne brkamo, sve je to deo paketa.

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a zato su Zvezdaši prilikom osvajanja ABA lige u Zagrebu pjevali Danke Dojčland

[džin tonik]

Ne brkamo, sve je to deo paketa.

ako uopce, onda ovisi o profesiji. ono sto gore citirah, bolje receno, cijeli clanak kao i "osobni stav kriticara", toliko je budalasto, da ne mogu ozbiljno razmatrati. nesto za tetu u vrticu.

[džin tonik]

Ma da, Nemci ne divljaju kao varvarski Rusi, to je kulturan svet, samo im se ponekad omakne neko masovno streljanje tipa Kragujevac, ili neko tamanjenje gasom tipa Aušvic.

epi, ja ne znam diskutirati na toj razini. mogu se jedino shaliti. ne sad da opcenito zazirem od forme ciji-je-manji, vec jednostavno ne moze imati svrhu do zabavne.
mislim, o cemu mi ovdje pisemo? nekoliko rubnih subjekata i predikata prespavalo dvadeset generacija evolucije, kao i pubertet, pa se nadbildavaju gluparijama, sve jos kao nekakve javne osobe. alo bre. za grceviti smijeh, ni vise - ni manje.

edit: sve uz poziv na  d e m o k r a t s k e  vrijednosti, zapadnjacki konzum i sl. phahahaha!!!! e!

[Anomander Rejk]

Pa dobro, ja ne pričam o tome da je naravno glupost da nekakav lik uzima slobodu sebi da on odlučuje šta se sme gledati i slušati, šta ne...
No, činjenica je da se prčka i po Ukrajini i Makedoniji i Africi, mislim možemo se zafrkavati ovde, ali nismo deca da verujemo u spontana događanja naroda kome eto, dozlogrdila pljačka i korupcija. Batali, u bajke odavno ne verujem.

[džin tonik]

nema tu neke vece filozofije; narod dodje do tocke kad vise ne moze podnijeti ugnjetavanje i spontano razjuri okupatora.