strange but... WEIRD

[Meho Krljic]

A moja žena juče bila baš na tom ostrvu. Moraću da joj kažem da se pod hitno vraća u majčicu Serbiju.

[BladeRunner]

6. avgust 2008.

BMW 130i 3d M

Predstavljamo vam BMW 130i M, automobil kojim se Novak Đoković vozio po Beogradu.

Najbolji srpski (i po mnogima, svetski) teniser verovatno ne bi sebi dozvolio da pogreši pri izboru automobila. Čovek koji je onako majstorski preslišao Rafaela Nadala na turniru u Sinsinatiju zaslužuje i dobija samo najbolje.

Bizaran uvod teksta o sportskom automobilu preuzet sa http://www.b92.net/automobili/vozili_smo.php?nav_id=311939 .

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Vampire Bats Eyed For Venezuela Deaths
Experts Suspect 38 Deaths Caused By Rabies Outbreak Spread By Vampire Bat Bites

CARACAS, Venezuela, Aug. 8, 2008

(AP) At least 38 Warao Indians have died in remote villages in Venezuela, and medical experts suspect an outbreak of rabies spread by bites from vampire bats.

Laboratory investigations have yet to confirm the cause, but the symptoms point to rabies, according to two researchers from the University of California at Berkeley and other medical experts.

The two UC Berkeley researchers - the husband-and-wife team of anthropologist Charles Briggs and public health specialist Dr. Clara Mantini-Briggs - said the symptoms include fever, body pains, tingling in the feet followed by progressive paralysis, and an extreme fear of water. Victims tend to have convulsions and grow rigid before death.

Dr. Charles Rupprecht, chief of the rabies program at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, agreed with their preliminary diagnosis.

"The history and clinical signs are compatible with rabies," Rupprecht told The Associated Press on Friday. "Prevention is straightforward: Prevent bites and vaccinate those at risk of bites."

Venezuelan health officials are investigating the outbreak and plan to distribute mosquito nets to prevent bat bites and send a medical boat to provide treatment in remote villages on the Orinoco River delta, Indigenous Peoples Minister Nicia Maldonado told the state-run Bolivarian News Agency on Thursday.

Outbreaks of rabies spread by vampire bats are a problem in various tropical areas of South America, including Brazil and Peru, Rupprecht said.

He said researchers suspect that in some cases environmental degradation - including mining, logging or dam construction projects - may also be contributing to rabies outbreaks.

"Vampire bats are very adaptable," Rupprecht said. And when their roosts are disrupted or their normal prey grow scarce, "Homo sapiens is a pretty easy meal."

More study is needed to confirm through blood or other samples from victims that it is the rabies virus in Venezuela, researchers say.

At least 38 Warao Indians have died since June 2007, and at least 16 have died since the start of June 2008, according to a report the Berkeley researchers and indigenous leaders provided to Venezuelan officials this week.

All victims died within two to seven days from the onset of symptoms, Briggs said.

One village, Mukuboina, lost eight of its roughly 80 inhabitants

all of them children, he said.

During a study trip Briggs and Mantini-Briggs made through 30 villages in the river delta, relatives said the victims had been bitten by bats. The couple have worked among the Warao in Delta Amacuro state for years and were invited by indigenous leaders to study the outbreak.

"It's a monster illness," said Tirso Gomez, a Warao traditional healer who said the indigenous group of more than 35,000 people has never experienced anything similar.

Another tropical medicine expert, Dr. Daniel Bausch of Tulane University in New Orleans, agreed the symptoms and accounts suggest rabies transmitted by bats, and if confirmed, "probably a vaccination campaign would be in order."

The common vampire bat, which feeds on mammals' blood, swoops down and generally approaches its sleeping prey on the ground. The bat then makes a small incision with its teeth, and an anticoagulant in its saliva keeps the blood flowing while it laps up its meal with its tongue.

The researchers in Venezuela have begun taking precautions. Mantini-Briggs, a Venezuelan former health official, said she started to wonder about her own health Friday while talking with biologist Omar Linares, a bat expert at Caracas' Simon Bolivar University.

She remembered there was blood on her sheet after sleeping in a hammock in a village two weeks ago. Initially she dismissed it as nothing important, but she also remembered her finger hurt that morning and that she saw two small red dots there.

Linares suggested she get rabies shots immediately.

"They're vaccinating me," Mantini-Briggs said. "I'm sure a bat bit me."

[Giovanni Larsson]

Jedan malo 'weird' domaći blog.


http://akrotomofilija.blogspot.com/

''Akrotomofilija je sklonost (seksualna, ali ne samo seksualna) prema osobama kojima nedostaje jedan ili više udova - koje su amputirci. Dakle, kada govorimo o muškarcima akrotomofilima, reč je o muškarcima kojima se naročito sviđaju žene bez noge ili bez ruke - amputirke. Njima su takve žene veoma lepe, šarmantne i sexy. Sasvim otvoreno rečeno, meni su se oduvek najviše sviđale žene koje nemaju nogu i zato želim da se oženim baš sa ženom kojoj je amputirana noga.''

[Son of Man]

Konachno - srodne dushe  

[cutter]

I ovo:
http://zajedno.googlepages.com/index.html

A bilo je i bljutavo-crnohumornih komentara, poput: "zamisli, vode ljubav, on joj digne onu jedinu nogu na rame a ona se preturi na drugu stranu" ili "još bolje da nema obe noge, onda može dok je j*** da je vrti kao helikopter". Ovo je, uzgred budi rečeno, prilično rasprostranjen oblik srpskog "humora" o amputirkama, na domaćim sajtovima specijalizovanim za viceve možete naći više sličnih "bisera" o ženama bez noge, a verovatno "najduhovitiji" je onaj o ženi bez obe noge okačenoj na granu.

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!  

Setih se ovog klasika:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106471/

[Meho Krljic]

Srodne indeed.

[zakk]

pamtite ovo kao jedan od retkih trenutaka kad sam poželeo da brišem postove i banujem ljude...

[Meho Krljic]

Srećom, uzdržao si se, inspirisan svetosavljem i duhom tolerancije.

[zakk]

tako je, svetosavljem i duhom tolerancije.

[angel011]

I nedostatkom satare u blizini.

[cutter]

Apotemnofilija?  

[zakk]

TEMPLARI TUŽE VATIKAN!

The Daily Telegraph reports that The Association of the Sovereign Order of the Temple of Christ has launched a court case in Spain, demanding Pope Benedict "recognise" the seizure of assets worth €100bn. The Spanish-based group of Templars apparently says in a statement: "We are not trying to cause the economic collapse of the Roman Catholic Church, but to illustrate to the court the magnitude of the plot against our Order." This might come as a surprise to those who believe that the order of warrior monks – also credited with possessing the Holy Grail and laying the foundation of the European banking system - was smashed in 1307 by Pope Clement V and Philip IV of France.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/04/knights_templar_pope/


   

[Ghoul]

pa u pravu su templari, papa im je jebo kevu ONIH DANA!

ne znam cemu se DANAS nadaju...


to je ko ono, za 248 godina, kosovo ce opet biti srpsko!    

[Goran Skrobonja]

Ko kaže da je "Kapetan Trips" virus koji umalo nije zbrisao čovečanstvo? (Pitanje je retoričko: znamo da to kaže Stiven King.) Umesto izmišljene pošasti, evo šta će nam zapravo doći glave: "Bela kuga..."


CDC Powerless To Stop Spread Of Virulent Mayonnaise-Borne Pathogen
August 18, 2008

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ATLANTA—Officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Tuesday that despite continued efforts to halt the multistate outbreak of an intensely noxious, mayonnaise-borne virus, they have been unable to combat its deadly progress.

Public health officials warn that even just picking at the potato salad could be deadly.
The first known case of the viral strain, which thrives in the delicious, creamy environment of mixed egg yolks, vegetable oil, and vinegar, was recorded by the CDC just three weeks ago and may be the strongest and most infectious contagion ever detected in mayonnaise or a mayonnaise-related substance. The agency's leading scientists have determined the epicenter of the growing pandemic to be an infected roast beef sandwich in the St. Charles suburb of Chicago.

Despite the best efforts of the CDC, an estimated 40 million Americans have already been affected by what the media has dubbed the "White Plague."

"We have identified the popular condiment mayonnaise as the sole carrier of this highly contagious and deadly viral strain," said Dr. Julie L. Gerberding, director of the CDC. "There is no known cure, and for now, all citizens must seriously examine their mayo-eating habits in order to avoid contracting the disease. Maybe you could try eating your turkey club with mustard, or perhaps a small helping of relish."

"Most importantly, do not panic," Gerberding continued. "We assure you that normal mayonnaise consumption will resume as soon as we clear the dead and contain this lethal pathogen."

According to information released by the CDC to all major television and radio stations, ingestion of the mayonnaise-borne virus results in shooting body pains, headaches, fevers, internal bleeding, abnormal gait, loss of muscle control, dementia, and, in its final stages, a slight decrease in one's desire to consume mayonnaise. Death generally occurs within 48 hours, by which time the virus has completely liquefied the host's gastrointestinal tract.

Although officials originally hoped direct appeals to the American public would curtail the spread, two simultaneous educational campaigns and a series of warning labels have proved ineffective, and experts are now estimating the that death toll will surpass 100,000.

"All citizens within the affected zones please be advised: If you absolutely have to put mayonnaise in your potato salad, at least use a clean knife," said Gerberding, specifically referring to those living in Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, Virginia, and Pennsylvania—the region commonly known as the "Mayo Belt." "And I cannot stress this enough: If a glob of mayo comes in contact with your skin, do not lick it off."

Gerberding also cautioned that there is no "safe" mayonnaise, and that adding flavors such as chipotle will not counteract the virus's effect.

Thus far, the public seems unfazed by the rapidly disseminating, initially tasty pathogen, with many brave citizens saying they will continue buying and consuming the condiment regardless of its potential health risks.

"I don't want a dry sandwich," said Salt Lake City native Scott Hagens, 42. "That's no way to eat."

"If I get it, I get it," said Louisville resident Debra Rothman, 56. "I'm not going to change my whole life around every time they come on TV and say something is bad for you."

With the virus claiming more victims each day, the CDC has utilized all available outlets to urge citizens to avoid such mayonnaise-heavy foods as deviled eggs, tuna salad, and coleslaw. But new figures suggest the rampant media images of mayo-enhanced products may have backfired. Sales of the creamy sandwich topping have increased 55 percent since the public service announcements began.

"Thankfully we didn't warn people not to eat spoonfuls of mayo straight out of the jar," one anonymous CDC official said.

As the nation's top microbiologists feverishly work to develop a vaccine for the virus, they continue to face setbacks, as many of the mayonnaise samples procured for analysis have disappeared from the laboratory. Fortunately, doctors have found some success using heavy doses of antibiotics to combat the virulent disease.

"Left unchecked, Hellmansviridae could potentially wipe out all human life in North America by the end of lunch on Friday," said Dr. Derek Patterson, an infectious disease specialist. "But tests show it can be treated with antibiotics when patients reduce their daily intake of mayonnaise to three tablespoons or less per 12 hours."

"Sadly, only one in 100 Americans has effectively been able to reduce personal mayo consumption to these levels," Patterson added.

Upon successful development of a vaccine, CDC officials had planned to administer the preventative treatment through a hummus-based delivery system, but initial testing showed high levels of human resistance to any potential medicinal chickpea spread. The public health organization is now seeking FDA approval for a mayo-based mayo vaccine.

"I pray my colleagues will be able to find a cure before it's too late," Dr. Gerberding said. "But, at the moment, it seems all we can hope for is a Miracle Whip."

[Son of Man]

Ljudska glava u plastičnoj kesi u Bulevaru kralja Aleksandra
Izvor: Beta |21. avgust 2008. 18:16:04

BEOGRAD, 21. avgusta 2008. (Beta) - Policija je danas oko 15 sati u Beogradu u Bulevaru kralja Aleksandra, kod broja 318, našla ljudsku glavu u plastičnoj kesi, rečeno je agenciji Beta u Ministarstvu unutrašnjih poslova. Glava je nađena na trotoaru. Policija vrši uviđaj na licu mesta. Ljudska glava će u sklopu istrage biti preneta u Institut za sudsku medicinu.

[ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas]

...malo više (iz sutrašnjih Večernjih novosti) o istom ...

Odsečena glava na trotoaru


ODSEČENU glavu nepoznatog muškarca, u crnoj plastičnoj kesi, pronašao je u četvrtak oko 14.30 reporter "Večernjih novosti". Kesa je bila ostavljena na trotoaru u Bulevaru kralja Aleksandra kod broja 318. Jedan od policajaca prepoznao je žrtvu koja je odranije poznata pripadnicima MUP.
Ova bizarna misterija počela je nakon anonimnog poziva upućenog redakciji "Večernjih novosti", u četvrtak oko 14 časova.
- Ako želite da slikate nešto strašno, na desetak metara od radnje "Atina" u Bulevaru kralja Aleksandra 318 nalazi se kesa sa odsečenom ljudskom glavom - rekao je dubok mlađi muški glas.
Pričao je brzo i zadihano.
- Ne smem više da govorim - dodao je i spustio slušalicu.
Na navedenom mestu naizgled se nije dešavalo ništa neobično. Ipak, kesa se nalazila tamo gde je muški glas i rekao - svega desetak metara od zgrade, između dva parkirana automobila, nadomak tramvajskih šina.
Novinar "Novosti" nije primetio tragove krvi, niti je osetio neprijatan miris. Uveren da je reč o neslanoj šali, podigao je kesu iz koje je ispala - odsečena glava.
Nepodnošljiv smrad istog trena se raširio dok je pozelenela i naduvena glava ležala na pločniku. Odmah je obaveštena i policija, koja je stigla za desetak minuta.
I pre nego što je policija došla, oko misteriozne glave okupilo se više od dvadeset znatiželjnih građana. Mnogi su prišli da vide šta se desilo, ali ih je jeziv prizor - odbijao. Sa gađenjem na licu, jedva suzdržavajući nagon za povraćanjem, ubrzano su se odmicali od glave.
- Moj pas je dva dana njuškao oko te kese, ali mi nije ni palo na pamet šta bi u njoj moglo da se nalazi - pričala je stanarka iz susedne zgrade, žurno se udaljavajući.
Kada su pripadnici MUP shvatili da nije reč o neslanoj šali, odmah su naredili građanima da se udalje.
Uskoro su počele da pristižu ekipe forenzičara. Jedni su ispitivali svedoke, drugi fotografisali, treći uzimali otiske i tragove DNK. Da nije bilo nepodnošljivog smrada koji je "štipao", sve bi izgledalo kao set neke kriminalističke serije.
- Svašta smo viđali, ali ovo je strašnije od svakog filma - komentarisali su forenzičari. - Nikad dosad se nije desilo da neko dojavi novinarima gde se nalazi leš, a kamoli odrubljena glava.
Kako "Novosti" nezvanično saznaju, jedan od policajaca koji je došao na mesto događaja, prepoznao je žrtvu. Iako nije mogao biti siguran zbog stanja u kom se glava nalazila, on je sumnjao da je reč o mlađem muškarcu koji je odranije poznat policiji.
Policajci se nadaju da će im u rešavanju misterije pomoći i identifikacija anonimnog poziva upućenog našem listu. Važan dokaz je i kesa za koju se policajci nadaju da će na njoj pronaći otiske ili tragove DNK koji ih mogu odvesti do počinioca. Gde se nalazi telo, i dalje je misterija.

JOŠ VAS NEMA?
TEK što je naš novinar krenuo tragom anonimnog poziva na mesto gde se nalazila glava, telefon je opet zazvonio.
- Još vas nema? - začuo se zadihan muški glas.
U pozadini se čuo žamor, a veza se, pre nego što je naš reporter uspeo da progovori - prekinula.

[Son of Man]

[Alexdelarge]

Šumski Platon strahuje samo od gromova
Milija Stojanović više od deset godina živi u kolibi na drvetu, sakrivenoj duboko u šumi u selu Cerovac kod Blaca

Cerovac – Šumoviti predeo sela Cerovac, udaljenog oko 18 kilometara od Blaca, čini oko 10 kuća, od kojih je jedna posebno interesantna – izgrađena je na drvetu, tačnije postavljena između dva stabla i podignuta nekoliko metara iznad zemlje. Šum planinske reke Golice, koja tuda protiče, naveo je Miliju Stojanovića da baš tu podigne kolibu, a na traženje zaklona podno planine Požar naterale su ga pre svega ljubavne muke.

– Dva su razloga bila da se 1996. godine vratim iz Skoplja u rodno selo Drešnicu, gde i danas imam kuću u kojoj stanujem preko zime. Prvi je politička situacija, kriza i ratovi devedesetih, a drugi je neuzvraćena ljubav. Ipak, prevagnuo je ovaj drugi, pa sam pobegao ovde razočaran što žena koju sam voleo nije gajila ista osećanja prema meni – priča Milija koga su njegovi zemljaci još u detinjstvu prozvali Mice iz Drešnice.

Sakriven duboko u šumi bez struje i vode on veselo provodi svoje dane, a u obližnjem selu Donje Grgurevo znaju ga i stari i mladi jer Mice rado prima goste. Zatekli smo ga okruženog prijateljima koji često svraćaju kod njega: Draženom Timotijevićem, lekarom koji radi u bolnici u Smederevskoj Palanci, i Hranislavom Tanaskovićem, predsednikom mesne zajednice. Ovde, u krilu prirode, na čistom vazduhu, u tišini hrastova i grabića čovek brzo otvori dušu i kaže sve što mu je na srcu, a u Micetu ima dobrog slušaoca i mudrog sagovornika. Poznanici kažu da je u školi bio jedan od najboljih đaka i da od njega uvek čuju poneku mudrost.

– Sedimo satima Mice i ja i filozofiramo o životu, polemišemo, ćaskamo. Nikakva buka ne dopire do nas, samo zvuci prirode, pa je meni to odmor za srce i dušu – priča Timotijević.

Platon iz šume, kako ga još zovu meštani okolnih sela, otkriva da je odmalena voleo prirodu, da poštuje samo njene zakone, a vreme prekraćuje loveći ribice i račiće kojima se hrani, berući pečurke, izležavajući se na suncu i čitajući knjige.

– Dostojevski je negde napisao da čovek posle šezdesete godine ne treba više da čita, pa zamalo da i ja prestanem, ali sam se, ipak, predomislio i prekršio to pravilo. Volim ruske pisce, ali i sve drugo što mi padne pod ruku rado pročitam. To mi je najlepši poklon – knjiga, mada volim da uz nju dobijem i lepu košulju – priča sa osmehom Mice.

Osim usmene, Micetu od ruke ide i pisana reč. Ljubavne patnje naterale su ga da svoja osećanja pretoči u poeziju, tačnije sonete. Osim ženama, stihove je posvetio ocu koji je poginuo u ratu 1941. godine i majci. Recituje iz glave, spontano, baš kako mu i nadolaze reči pesama.

,,Šta je život bez mora galebu, i sokolu bez tvrdog kamena. Ona i samo ona i nijedna druga, da si moja nek objave zvona!", recituje Mice dok posprema svoju šumsku kolibu.

Kućne poslove očas posla obavi jer pokućstva nema mnogo: tanjir i pribor za jelo, glineni sud za pečenje, odeća koja umesto u ormaru visi na granama drveća. Šumski filozof kaže da mu više ne treba, a sa posebnim ponosom pokazuje svoj ,,špajz" – izdubljeno drveno stablo sa poklopcem, odnosno lupnju. Nikakav miš, zmija ili insekt ne može tu da se uvuče, a Mice objašnjava da je ovaj drveni sud star više od 100 godina i da je odvajkada bio deo porodičnog domaćinstva.

– Živim u šumi po hajdučki – od Đurđevdana do Mitrovdana, a kada nisam ovde odem do svoje kuće u selu. Ničega se ne bojim a video sam u šumi divlje svinje i lisice. Jedino sam se istinski prepao kada je početkom meseca udarila oluja i kada su gromovi počeli da biju, pucalo je i sevalo na sve strane. Ja nisam imao kud, jer nisam mogao da bežim u selo. Ima oko pet kilometara do Gornjeg Grgura, daleko je to po onom pljusku. Tako sam se šćućurio u kolibi i nadao se da će me Bog sačuvati – seća se Mice tog olujnog dana.

Iako je razgovorljiv, oštrouman i spretno se snalazi u diskusijama na razne teme, ne voli da bistri politiku. Televizor i tranzistor mu uopšte ne nedostaju, ali zato redovno prati dnevne novine – od 1986. godine čita ,,Politiku".

– Nemojte da napišete da sam asketa, jer nisam. Volim društvo, dobro vino, a priznajem da mi i danas srce zaigra kada vidim lepu ženu – obešenjački otkriva Mice.

http://www.politika.co.yu/rubrike/Drustvo/Sumski-Platon-strahuje-samo-od-gromova.lt.html

[Meho Krljic]

Ahhh, Orson Skot Kard in ful efekt:

http://mormontimes.com/ME_blogs.php?id=1586

Mislm, ja sam protiv svakog braka, pa i homoseksualnog, ali ovo je faking hilarijs:

State job is not to redefine marriage
By Orson Scott Card


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Published: Thursday, Jul. 24, 2008
The first and greatest threat from court decisions in California and Massachusetts, giving legal recognition to "gay marriage," is that it marks the end of democracy in America.

These judges are making new law without any democratic process; in fact, their decisions are striking down laws enacted by majority vote.

The pretext is that state constitutions require it -- but it is absurd to claim that these constitutions require marriage to be defined in ways that were unthinkable through all of human history until the past 15 years. And it is offensive to expect us to believe this obvious fiction.

It is such an obvious overreach by judges, far beyond any rational definition of their authority, that even those who support the outcome of the decisions should be horrified by the means.

We already know where these decisions lead. We have seen it with the court decisions legalizing abortion. At first, it was only early abortions; within a few years, though, any abortion up to the killing of a viable baby in mid-birth was made legal.

Not only that, but the courts upheld obviously unconstitutional limitations on free speech and public assembly: It is now illegal even to kneel and pray in front of a clinic that performs abortions.

Do not suppose for a moment that the "gay marriage" diktats will not be supported by methods just as undemocratic, unconstitutional and intolerant.

Already in several states, there are textbooks for children in the earliest grades that show "gay marriages" as normal. How long do you think it will be before such textbooks become mandatory -- and parents have no way to opt out of having their children taught from them?

And if you choose to home-school your children so they are not propagandized with the "normality" of "gay marriage," you will find more states trying to do as California is doing -- making it illegal to take your children out of the propaganda mill that our schools are rapidly becoming.

How dangerous is this, politically? Please remember that for the mildest of comments critical of the political agenda of homosexual activists, I have been called a "homophobe" for years.

This is a term that was invented to describe people with a pathological fear of homosexuals -- the kind of people who engage in acts of violence against gays. But the term was immediately extended to apply to anyone who opposed the homosexual activist agenda in any way.

A term that has mental-health implications (homophobe) is now routinely applied to anyone who deviates from the politically correct line. How long before opposing gay marriage, or refusing to recognize it, gets you officially classified as "mentally ill"?

Remember how rapidly gay marriage has become a requirement. When gay rights were being enforced by the courts back in the '70s and '80s, we were repeatedly told by all the proponents of gay rights that they would never attempt to legalize gay marriage.

It took about 15 minutes for that promise to be broken.

And you can guess how long it will now take before any group that speaks against "gay marriage" being identical to marriage will be attacked using the same tools that have been used against anti-abortion groups -- RICO laws, for instance.

Here's the irony: There is no branch of government with the authority to redefine marriage. Marriage is older than government. Its meaning is universal: It is the permanent or semipermanent bond between a man and a woman, establishing responsibilities between the couple and any children that ensue.

The laws concerning marriage did not create marriage, they merely attempted to solve problems in such areas as inheritance, property, paternity, divorce, adoption and so on.

If the government passed a law declaring that grey was now green, and asphalt was specifically designated as a botanical organism, would that make all our streets into "greenery" and all our parking lots into "parks"?

If a court declared that from now on, "blind" and "sighted" would be synonyms, would that mean that it would be safe for blind people to drive cars?

No matter how sexually attracted a man might be toward other men, or a woman toward other women, and no matter how close the bonds of affection and friendship might be within same-sex couples, there is no act of court or Congress that can make these relationships the same as the coupling between a man and a woman.

This is a permanent fact of nature.

feature continues below advertisement(In another column I will talk seriously and candidly about the state of scientific research on the causes of homosexuality, and the reasons why homosexuality persists even though it does not provide a reproductive advantage.)

There is no natural method by which two males or two females can create offspring in which both partners contribute genetically. This is not subject to legislation, let alone fashionable opinion.

Human beings are part of a long mammalian tradition of heterosexuality. No parthenogenic test tube procedure can alter what we, by nature, are. No surgery, no hormone injections, can change X to Y or make the distinction nonexistent.

That a few individuals suffer from tragic genetic mixups does not affect the differences between genetically distinct males and females.

That many individuals suffer from sex-role dysfunctions does not change the fact that only heterosexual mating can result in families where a father and a mother collaborate in rearing children that share a genetic contribution from both parents.

Married people are doing something that is very, very hard -- to combine the lives of a male and female, with all their physical and personality differences, into a stable relationship that persists across time.

When they are able to create children together, married people then provide the role models for those children to learn how to become a man or a woman, and what to expect of their spouse when they themselves marry.

When a heterosexual couple cannot have children, their faithful marriage still affirms, in the eyes of other people's children, the universality of the pattern of marriage.

When a heterosexual couple adopts children who are not their genetic offspring, they affirm the pattern of marriage and generously confer its blessings on children who might otherwise have been deprived of its benefits.

Some marriages are better than others; some fail utterly because of the malfeasance of one or both of the partners.

That only makes it all the more vital that the whole society combine to help husbands and wives succeed at marriage.

We need the same public protection of marriage that we have of property. If we did not all agree that people continue to own things that are not in their immediate possession, then you could not reasonably expect to come home and find your house unoccupied.

We agree, by law, to make it a crime to take what belongs to others -- even when you need it more than they do. Every aspect of our lives is affected by this, and not for a moment could a society exist that did not protect the right of property.

If property rights were utterly abolished, and you could own nothing, you would leave that society as quickly as possible -- or create a new society that agreed to respect each other's property rights and protected them from outsiders who would attempt to take away your property.

Marriage is, if anything, more vital, more central, than property.

Husbands need to have the whole society agree that when they marry, their wives are off limits to all other males. He has a right to trust that all his wife's children would be his.

Wives need to have the whole society agree that when they marry, their husband is off limits to all other females. All of his protection and earning power will be devoted to her and her children, and will not be divided with other women and their children.

These two premises are so basic that they preexist any known government. In most societies through history, failure to live up to these commitments has led to extreme social sanctions -- even, in many cases, death.

What used to be informally protected by the customs of villages and tribes is now supposedly protected by governments and laws.

Only when the marriage of heterosexuals has the support of the whole society can we have our best hope of raising each new generation to aspire to continue our civilization -- including the custom of marriage.

Seen in this context, we are fools if we think "gay marriage" is the first or even the worst threat to marriage.

We heterosexuals have put marriage in such a state that it's a wonder homosexuals would even aspire to call their unions by that name.

Divorce is "no-fault," easily obtained on any pretext.

A vast number of unmarried men and women have such contempt for marriage that they share bed and home without asking for any formal recognition by society.

In an era when birth control and abortion make childbearing completely optional, the number of out-of-wedlock births shows the contempt that many women have for marriage.

Yet most of these single mothers still demand that the man they chose not to marry before having sex with him provide financial support for them and their children -- while denying the man any of the rights and protections of marriage.

Men routinely discard wives and children to follow the nearly universal male biological desire for diversity in mating. Adultery is now openly expected of men, even if faithful wives deplore it.

With "gay marriage," the last shreds of meaning will be stripped away from marriage, with homosexuals finishing what faithless, selfish heterosexuals have begun.

Marriage, to be worth preserving, needs to mean not just something, but everything.

Faithful sexual monogamy, persistence until death, male protection and providence for wife and children, female loyalty to children and husband, and parental discretion in child-rearing.

If government is going to meddle in this, it had better be to support marriage in general while providing protection for those caught in truly destructive marriages.

Because when government is the enemy of marriage, then the people who are actually creating successful marriages have no choice but to change governments, by whatever means is made possible or necessary.

Society gains no benefit whatsoever (except for a momentary warm feeling about how "fair" and "compassionate" we are) from renaming homosexual liaisons and friendships as marriage.

Married people attempting to raise children with the hope that they, in turn, will be reproductively successful, have every reason to oppose the normalization of homosexual unions.

It's about grandchildren. That's what all life is about. It's not enough just to spawn -- your offspring must grow up in circumstances that will maximize their reproductive opportunities.

Why should married people feel the slightest loyalty to a government or society that are conspiring to encourage reproductive and/or marital dysfunction in their children?

Why should married people tolerate the interference of such a government or society in their family life?

If America becomes a place where our children are taken from us by law and forced to attend schools where they are taught that cohabitation is as good as marriage, that motherhood doesn't require a husband or father, and that homosexuality is as valid a choice as heterosexuality for their future lives, then why in the world should married people continue to accept the authority of such a government?

What these dictator-judges do not seem to understand is that their authority extends only as far as people choose to obey them.

How long before married people answer the dictators thus: Regardless of law, marriage has only one definition, and any government that attempts to change it is my mortal enemy. I will act to destroy that government and bring it down, so it can be replaced with a government that will respect and support marriage, and help me raise my children in a society where they will expect to marry in their turn.

Biological imperatives trump laws. American government cannot fight against marriage and hope to endure. If the Constitution is defined in such a way as to destroy the privileged position of marriage, it is that insane Constitution, not marriage, that will die.


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Orson Scott Card is a writer of nonfiction and fiction, from LDS works to popular fiction. "In the Village" appears Thursdays in the Deseret News. Leave feedback for Card online at www.nauvoo.com/contact_desnews.html

[Ghoul]

ovaj kard se kandidovao za počasnog člana šekijeve radikalske partije.

budući da sam i sam protivnik SVAKOG braka, jedine reči u ovoj dijatribi s kojima se slažem su:
"We heterosexuals have put marriage in such a state that it's a wonder homosexuals would even aspire to call their unions by that name."
zaista, 95% amera koje sam upoznao imaju neke sjebane bračne priče: il su već u svom II il III braku, il su sveže razvedeni, il u procesu razvoda... zapravo, upoznao sam samo jednu osobu koja je u višedecenijskom braku sa svojim prvim i jedinim bračnim partnerom!

drugim rečima, ne vidim što bi se gejevi uopšte borili za pravo na taj brak, sem krajnje suvo-materijalno-legalnih (nasledstvo, pravo na zajedničku imovinu i sl.).
a pitam se –pošto nisam pravnik- zar se te materijalno-ostavinske rabote ne mogu odraditi i bez odlaska pred matičara? zar jedan ljubavnik ne može drugome da prepiše šta već želi nekim običnim ugovorom, testamentom i sl?...

[Tex Murphy]

Koliko ja znam, može. Mislim da je tendencija da se (ne samo u Americi, već svugdje) vanbračne zajednice izjednače sa bračnim. Stoga, i meni je misterija zašto se toliko tarzanaju da im se prizna pravo na nešto što nema apsolutno nikakvog značaja, osim ako je čovjek religiozan.

[Ghoul]

Koliko ja znam, može. Mislim da je tendencija da se (ne samo u Americi, već svugdje) vanbračne zajednice izjednače sa bračnim. Stoga, i meni je misterija zašto se toliko tarzanaju da im se prizna pravo na nešto što nema apsolutno nikakvog značaja, osim ako je čovjek religiozan.

vidiš, nešto razmišljam, možda ipak ima razloga za neku vrstu braka.

jedan mogući primer: recimo da 2 momka (nazovimo ih Gin i Kun, radi jasnoće primera), žive zajedno.
i sad, odu oni u knjižaru i svidi im se neka knjiga. kupe 1 primerak. on je sad zajednički, nebitno ko je platio.

ali, kako to ponekad biva, Gin i Kun se posvađaju i odu svako na svoju stranu, to meet other people.
e, sad, postavlja se pitanje: ČIJA JE KNJIGA?

u neregulisanim uslovima (npr. kad bi Gin i Kun živeli u srbiji), knjiga bi ostala kod onoga kod koga se zatekla u trenu raskida, i onaj drugi ne bi ništa mogao da učini tim povodom, ma koliko voleo tu knjigu, pa makar i baš on bio taj koji je u konkretnom slučaju posegao u svoj džep.

ali, da je to bio gay brak, mogla bi se zahtevati i zakonski sprovesti (ako zatreba) podela zajednički kupljenih knjiga, i onda bi i Gin i Kun dobili pravedno raspodeljene knjige.

naravno, zameniti 'knjiga' sa 'stan', 'auto', 'vikendica na selu' i sl. i onda shvatiš da možda ima nešto i u tom braku, čisto zato što su ljudi generalno stoka, bili hetero, homo ili bi, i zato je poželjno imati neki papir koji ti garantuje neka prava onda kada 'dragi/a' postane 'stoka'.

[DušMan]

Modesto man tries to amputate own arm

Sun Aug 31, 2:34 PM ET

MODESTO, Calif. - Police say a man tried to cut off his own arm at a restaurant in Modesto, Calif., because he thought he had injected air into a vein while shooting cocaine and feared he would die unless he took drastic action. ADVERTISEMENT



Authorities say 33-year-old Michael Lasiter rushed into the Denny's restaurant late Friday and started stabbing himself in one arm with a butter knife he grabbed from a table.

They say that when that knife didn't work Lasiter took a butcher knife from the kitchen and dug it into his arm.

Police Sgt. Brian Findlen says Lasiter told officers he thought he needed to amputate his arm to keep himself from dying from the cocaine injection.

Lasiter was taken to a hospital for treatment of severe cuts.

The Denny's closed for the night.

___

Information from: The Modesto Bee, http://www.modbee.com

[Tex Murphy]

Šmrkanje je majka.

[Son of Man]

Authorities say 33-year-old Michael Lasiter rushed into the Denny's restaurant late Friday and started stabbing himself in one arm with a butter knife he grabbed from a table.

Hm...ta 33. godina zeshce zajebana kolko ja vidim
Nista nije sluchajno, al' znachi nishta...

[Meho Krljic]

Tema nije baš za ovaj topik, al da ne otvaram nov....

Dakle, da izvinu finiji članovi ovog foruma ali ovi Britanci ispadoše teške pičketine. Posle svega će Gary McKinnon biti izručen Americi. Njegov greh? Upao je u američku armijsku kompjutersku mrežu jedne večeri tražeći podatke o UFO slučajevima pošto je UFO i conspiracy theory buff, tu se zezao par sati, naduvan i srećan i izašao ostavivši poruku da je bio tu. Sećam se da sam na slashdotu čitao o ovome pre par godina i da je često mišljenje bilo da bi američka vojska trebalo da mu da nagradu što nije napravio nikakvu štetu a otkrio im manjkavosti njihovog sistema sigurnosti.

Ooooh, ali to bi bilo u nekom drugom svetu. Ovde je on optužen za terorizam i traženo je izručenje od Britanije, koje se danas konačno i dogodilo:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080902/tuk-hacker-distraught-at-extradition-6323e80.html

A British computer expert accused of hacking into American military systems was in a "distraught" state as he awaited extradition to the US, his family and friends said.

Gary McKinnon, 42, who claimed he was looking for UFO files, has lost a string of legal battles against his extradition, culminating in a failed last-ditch appeal at the European Court of Human Rights last month.

His parents and girlfriend joined supporters in London for a demonstration outside the Home Office, calling on the Government to prevent him from being handed over to American authorities.

Mr McKinnon, an unemployed systems analyst from Wood Green, north London, admits accessing 97 US Navy, Army, Nasa and Pentagon computers, but he said he was motivated by curiosity and only got in because of lax security.

The US government said he stole passwords and deleted files. Glasgow-born Mr McKinnon faces up to 70 years in prison if he is found guilty.

Lucy Clarke, who has been with Mr McKinnon for the last three and a half years, said: "He is a broken man - he is distraught and very scared. All we can do is wait. The whole family has been living in terror."

Miss Clarke, 37, who works as a secretary, said she hoped the action would raise public awareness of his plight and highlight the "one-sided" nature of the extradition treaty.

Demonstrators wore T-shirts stating "Give Gary McKinnon a Fair Trial", chanted and held up placards with messages such as "No Evidence Required, No Justice Required" and "UK Law for UK Citizens".

His father, Charlie McKinnon, travelled from his Glasgow home to support his son.

The 63-year-old scaffolder said: "I don't want him to go to America. There is no hope for him to face a fair trial there - they have made up their minds."

Dakle, da stavim stvari u perspektivu: Britanija izručuje svog građanina drugoj državi gde ga potencijalno čeka kazna do sedamdeset godina robije za zločin (prekršaj? rekli bi mi) u kome niko nije oštećen.

Znam da bi trebalo da se nerviram zbog malo ozbiljnijih stvari u životu, Kosovo, kurac palac ovo ono, ali evo, ovo me sad dovodi do ludila od gneva.

[Tex Murphy]

Kakve ljigave poltronske smradine. U potpunosti dijelim tvoje gnušanje nad ovim činom.

(Actually, da je Srbija izručila nekog svog građanina ne bi bilo ništa čudno. Ali fakat da je u pitanju Velika Britanija opravdava postavljanje linka upravo na ovom topiku.)

[Tex Murphy]

Zapravo, ovo je otprilike ekvivalentno sljedećem slučaju:
Ostaviš otključan sef u kojem imaš milion dolara. Dođe neki tamo čovjek, otvori sef, zaviri unutra, razgleda pare, ne uzme ništa i ostavi poruku "Sef ti je otključan, ovde je bio taj-i-taj". I onda tog-i-tog strpaju u zatvor na sedamdes godina  

[Meho Krljic]

Otprilike tako. Mislim, ne branim da je u pitanju prekršaj ali zaista, zar za prekršaj u kome niko nije oštećen da prete kaznom većom nego za šta ja znam, ubistvo, silovanje i slično... Najviše od svega me jedi britanski pristanak...

[Milosh]

Pridružujem se gnušanju propo sad već uobičajene, ali zato ništa manje jezive i zabrinjavajuće USA "marljivosti" u borbi protiv terorizma (samo neka tako nastave i teroristi će moći da se opušteno zavale i posmatraju kako ameri odrađuju sav posao umesto njih); međutim, još gore od toga je reakcija britanskih vlasti, koji su, ako sam dobro shvatio, izašle u susret amerima bez da su postavili ijedno pitanje. Izgleda da sumanuti zaplet filma Harold & Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay i nije toliko daleko od realnosti...

[Son of Man]

Izgleda da sumanuti zaplet filma Harold & Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay i nije toliko daleko od realnosti...

al tachno taj rad  

[Tex Murphy]

Fuk Mi, još nisam pogledo Harolda i Kumara! Valja li to čemu? Prvi dio je bio odličan.

[Son of Man]

Prvi deo zaista predobar, drugi samo u sluchaju teshkog overdoza marihuaninim produktima, jer su momci uvatili pa rezishli da mu ga solo daju po reziji a bash im ne ide, ali nije loshe pogledati (naravno navaren) ja jbga gledo strejt pa mi nije bio neshto...

[Milosh]

Fuk Mi, još nisam pogledo Harolda i Kumara! Valja li to čemu? Prvi dio je bio odličan.

Ako ti se svideo prvi deo, drugi je praktično more of the same, znači apsolutna preporuka...

[Alexdelarge]

[Tex Murphy]

[Alexdelarge]

Najniži čovek na svetu He Pingping, iz Mongolije, visok, tj nizak 74.61 cm i žena sa najdužim nogama na svetu, ruskinja Svetlana Pankratova visoka 196 cm od čega je 132 cm u nogama, poziraju u Londonu, na promociji Guinness Book of World Records za 2009. godinu







P.S.

Ovaj "cova" bi mogao biti iskoriscen u slucaju rimejka The Brood.

[Tex Murphy]

The Brood je savršen film i ne treba mu rimejk.

[Ghoul]

The Brood je savršen film i ne treba mu rimejk.

to su govorili i za TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE i za HALLOWEEN, pa vidi šta je bilo...

[zakk]

TALLINN, Estonia (AFP) - Eleven suspects have been charged over a smuggling operation to pump vodka from Russia to Estonia via a two kilometre (one-mile) underwater pipeline, Estonian prosecutors said Tuesday.
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"It might sound weird and unbelievable but it's a very real criminal case," Mari Luuk, spokeswoman for the Estonian Viru Circuit Prosecutor's Office told AFP.

She said the 11, who included Russians and Estonians, were likely to go on trial soon and faced up to five years in prison if convicted.

The illegal pipeline was submerged in a water reservoir located between Russia and Estonia near the north-eastern Estonian border town of Narva.

The operation was profitable as the price of vodka in Russia is nearly one third cheaper than in Estonia, a member of the European Union since May 2004.

The illegal pipeline was discovered by Estonian tax and customs department officials in November 2004 after tax department officials found 1,159 litres of illegal alcohol in a truck in Estonia's capital Tallinn.

Police records show the four main organisers of the smuggling operation, all ethnic Russians, had used the pipeline between August and November 2004.

According to prosecutors the men had pumped at least 6,200 litres of illegal spirit to Estonia, avoiding paying 57,000 euros (900,000 Estonian Crowns) in excise duty.

"The investigation also revealed that the men had tried to sell some of the alcohol in Tallinn in early November 2004 but the quality of the spirit was too bad and no buyers were found. They then transported their cargo back to Narva and later managed to sell it in Tartu, the second largest town in Estonia," Luuk said.

A similar vodka-pipeline between Russia and Estonia was discovered in the Narva river by Estonian border guards in 2006. "That time the pipeline was discovered before it was in use," Luuk added.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080916/od_afp/estoniarussiacrimealcoholoffbeat_080916160538

[cutter]

U ventilacionom otvoru zgrade - uginuo konj
21. septembar 2008. | 02:44

PROKUPLJE - Stanari najvećeg prokupačkog solitera u Jug Bogdanovoj 119 posle nekoliko dana uspeli sa da otkriju uzrok nesnosnog smrada u njihovoj zgradi - a to je uginuli konj u prostoriji za ventilaciju.

"Ne znamo kako se životinja tu našla, ali od nadležnih službi još niko ne preduzima ništa iako smo ih već nekoliko puta zvali", rekao je Tanjugu stanar zgrade Zoran Cvetković.

Inače, u tom soliteru je sedište privatne televizije "Top tri", Muzičke škole, a i nekoliko stranaka - Liberalno-demokratske partije, Nove i jedinstvene Srbije.

Radnici u televiziji rekli su Tanjugu da danima rade sa maramicama na nosu i ustima.

[Meho Krljic]

Kuku......

[Son of Man]

mafija, shto neko reche, samo kontam mrzelo ih da seku konju glavu i da nose na ko zna koji sprat pa lepo samo nabili konja u tu rupu...hm...poruka celoj zgradi mozda ?  
Mozda gradjevinska mafija jbotebogcelavisabradom ?!  
Oce rushe soliter mozda grade kineski trzni ?!  

[Ghoul]

sine, ljubi te ucitelj!
       

[cutter]

YouTube bans some weapons footage
YouTube web page
YouTube says it is responding to particular concerns in the UK

YouTube is to ban footage showing weapons being used to intimidate people on its website in the UK.

The new policy was being introduced because of "particular concern" in Britain over the subject, the site's owners, Google, said.

MPs criticised video-sharing websites, including YouTube, in July, saying they should be doing more to vet content.

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith welcomed the YouTube ban and called on other internet sites to follow suit.

YouTube said the introduction of the new rule on weapons and intimidation would be the first time the site had made a policy change targeted specifically at the UK.

   

We recognise that there has been particular concern over videos in the UK that involve showing weapons with the aim of intimidation
YouTube spokesman

Direct threatening of any groups or individuals has always been banned worldwide, but a spokesman for YouTube said it was necessary to reflect "local laws and sensitivities" in countries viewing the "diverse content posted by users" as the site's community evolved.

For instance, there are already some other country-specific rules, including a ban on Nazi-related footage in Germany.

The move comes amid growing concern about knife and gun crime among young people in the UK.

"We recognise that there has been particular concern over videos in the UK that involve showing weapons with the aim of intimidation, and this is one of the areas we are addressing," the spokesman said.

"We have just established a new policy in the UK to prohibit this kind of material, and with the help of our community we'll continue to work to keep YouTube as a platform for safe and lawful expression."

'Strict rules'

The spokesman said although the site was responding to concerns raised by the media and government over footage of weapons, the move was not a "paradigm shift" from existing policy.

Strict rules already existed to vet content and the change was just "tightening" those rules, he added.

   

I would like to see other internet service providers follow suit to reinforce our message that violence will not be tolerated either on the internet or in the real world
Home Secretary Jacqui Smith

The Home Secretary said she was "extremely pleased" YouTube had "taken action to ban videos glamourising weapons".

"This is a real step forward. I would like to see other internet service providers follow suit to reinforce our message that violence will not be tolerated either on the internet or in the real world," she added.

In July, the Culture, Media and Sport select committee called for a new industry body to be set up to protect children from harmful content on the web.

The committee also said it should be "standard practice" for sites hosting user-generated content to review material proactively.

While the committee recommended the creation of an industry body responsible for policing the web, it stopped short of making regulation mandatory.

At the time, YouTube said it was confident its system and the site's 24/7 review team dealt with all problem content swiftly.

[Alexdelarge]

[raindelay]

SCUM OF THE EARTH/EX-ROB ZOMBIE GUITARIST, 'RIGGS" - 13 YR. OLD SON BELITTLED IN CLASS & FORCED TO 'PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS' FOR WEARING 'SCUM' T-SHIRT!!

Former ROB ZOMBIE guitarist and current SCUM OF THE EARTH frontman Riggs' 13-year-old son was reportedly reprimanded by his eighth-grade art teacher for wearing an inappropriate t-shirt in the classroom. The art teacher allegedly insulted the student in front of his peers, dragged him out of class into the hallway and forced him to pray on his knees for forgiveness from Jesus Christ.

[zakk]

Sales +10 za Zombija. Gubitak posla za teachera.

Nešto sa ulaza u moju zgradu:

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[raindelay]

OVO MORATE VIDETI.

http://www.koreus.com/video/telephone-portable-mais-popcorn.html