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[Ghoul]

Va. Tech shooter was laughed at


By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer


BLACKSBURG, Va. - Long before he snapped, Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui was picked on, pushed around and laughed at over his shyness and the strange way he talked when he was a schoolboy in the Washington suburbs, former classmates say.

Chris Davids, a Virginia Tech senior who graduated from Westfield High School in Chantilly, Va., with Cho in 2003, recalled that the South Korean immigrant almost never opened his mouth and would ignore attempts to strike up a conversation.

Once, in English class, the teacher had the students read aloud, and when it was Cho's turn, he just looked down in silence, Davids recalled. Finally, after the teacher threatened him with an F for participation, Cho started to read in a strange, deep voice that sounded "like he had something in his mouth," Davids said.

"As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, `Go back to China,'" Davids said.

The high school classmates' accounts add to the psychological portrait that is beginning to take shape, and could shed light on Cho's state of mind in the video rant he mailed to NBC in the middle of his rampage Monday at Virginia Tech.

He shot 32 people to death and committed suicide in the deadliest one-man shooting rampage in modern U.S. history.

In the often-incoherent video, the 23-year-old Cho portrays himself as persecuted and rants about rich kids.

"Your Mercedes wasn't enough, you brats," says Cho, who came to the U.S. in 1992 and whose parents work at a dry cleaners in suburban Washington. "Your golden necklaces weren't enough, you snobs. Your trust funds wasn't enough. Your vodka and cognac wasn't enough. All your debaucheries weren't enough. Those weren't enough to fulfill your hedonistic needs. You had everything."

Among the victims of the massacre were two other Westfield High graduates: Reema Samaha and Erin Peterson. Both young women graduated from the high school last year. Police said it is not clear whether Cho singled them out.

Stephanie Roberts, 22, a fellow member of Cho's graduating class at Westfield High, said she never witnessed anyone picking on Cho in high school.

"I just remember he was a shy kid who didn't really want to talk to anybody," she said. "I guess a lot of people felt like maybe there was a language barrier."

But she said friends of hers who went to middle school with Cho told her they recalled him getting picked on there.

"There were just some people who were really mean to him and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well and they would really make fun of him."

Virginia Tech student Alison Heck said a suitemate of hers on campus — Christina Lilick — found a mysterious question mark scrawled on the dry erase board on her door. Lilick went to the same high school as Cho, according to Lilick's Facebook page. Cho once scrawled a question mark on the sign-in sheet on the first day of a literature class, and other students came to know him as "the question mark kid."

"I don't know if she knew that it was him for sure," Heck said. "I do remember that that fall that she was being stalked and she had mentioned the question mark. And there was a question mark on her door."

Heck added: "She just let us know about it just in case there was a strange person walking around our suite."

Lilick could not immediately be located for comment, via e-mail or telephone.

On Wednesday, NBC received a package containing a rambling and often incoherent 23-page written statement from Cho, 28 video clips and 43 photos — many of them showing Cho brandishing handguns. A Postal Service time stamp reads 9:01 a.m. — between the two attacks on campus.

The package helped explain one mystery: where the gunman was and what he did during that two-hour window between the first burst of gunfire, at a high-rise dorm, and the second attack, at a classroom building.

"You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today," a snarling Cho says on video. "But you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off."

Col. Steve Flaherty, superintendent of the Virginia State Police, said Thursday that the material contained little they did not already know. Flaherty said he was disappointed that NBC decided to broadcast parts of it.

"I just hate that a lot of people not used to seeing that type of image had to see it," he said.

On NBC's "Today" show Thursday, host Meredith Vieira said the decision to air the information "was not taken lightly." Some victims' relatives canceled their plans to speak with NBC because they were upset over the airing of the images, she said.

"I saw his picture on TV, and when I did I just got chills," said Kristy Venning, a junior from Franklin County, Va. "There's really no words. It shows he put so much thought into this and I think it's sick."  

Some of the pictures in the video package show him smiling; others show him frowning and snarling. Some depict him brandishing two weapons at a time, one in each hand. He wears a khaki-colored military-style vest, fingerless gloves, a black T-shirt, a backpack and a backward, black baseball cap. Another photo shows him swinging a hammer two-fisted. Another shows an angry-looking Cho holding a gun to his temple.

There has been some speculation, especially among online forums, that Cho may have been inspired by the South Korean movie "Oldboy." One of the killer's mailed photos shows him brandishing a hammer — the signature weapon of the protagonist — and in a pose similar to one from the film.      

The film won the Gran Prix prize at the Cannes Film Festival in 2004. It is about a man unjustly imprisoned for 15 years. After escaping, he goes on a rampage against his captor.    

Authorities on Thursday disclosed that more than a year before the massacre, Cho had been accused of sending unwanted messages to two women and was taken to a psychiatric hospital on a magistrate's orders and was pronounced a danger to himself. But he was released with orders to undergo outpatient treatment.

The disclosure added to the rapidly growing list of warning signs that appeared well before the student opened fire. Among other things, Cho's twisted, violence-filled writings and sullen, vacant-eyed demeanor had disturbed professors and students so much that he was removed from one English class and was repeatedly urged to get counseling.

[Джон Рейнольдс]

They've been laughed at, picked on and put down. But now it's time for the odd to get even! Their time has come!

The time has come for REVENGE OF THE NERDS

Let the battle begin!

( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088000/taglines )

[Meho Krljic]

Jebiga. Da nije Bobanove quote zajebancije unquote, ja bih sad linkovao svoj tekst danas objavljen na u p p s u  gde se u prolazu promišlja tematika o geek masovnim ubicama i kako je i zašto to važno za nas kao geekove i ljubitelje pop kulture... Između ostalog Hui otvoreno referencira Erika i Dilana iz Kolumbajna i naziva ih 'mučenicima'.

[Morningstar]

Hm, da...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363589/

Ti kossoki uopste nisu za zezanje, setite se samo 'strave u ulici knez mihajlova'...

[WARLOCK]

ovo je bolje  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102209/

[Ghoul]

Jebiga. Da nije Bobanove quote zajebancije unquote, ja bih sad linkovao svoj tekst danas objavljen na u p p s u  gde se u prolazu promišlja tematika o geek masovnim ubicama i kako je i zašto to važno za nas kao geekove i ljubitelje pop kulture...

more davaj bre taj link, 100 mu gromova, il šalji text na mejl, zanima me!

strašno me zanimaju priče o tim likovima iz žanra DA POBIJEM GOVNA I GOTOVA STVAR.

zapravo, imam ideju za jednu priču kojoj bi to bio genijalan naslov, kad samo tonalno ne bi bio neadekvatan.
tj, priča uopšte ne bi bila zajebancija.

jel se seća neko onog dečka koji se malim privatnim aviončetom zabio u neku zgradu par dana nakon 9/11 ?
meni je to fenomenalna priča!

[Demo(n)lisher]

Između ostalog Hui otvoreno referencira Erika i Dilana iz Kolumbajna i naziva ih 'mučenicima'.

Pa naravno da jesu Meho. Oni su savrsen primer stvari u skoli.
Stereotipna slika mirnih, povucenih ljudi koji nikom nista nisu zgresili, gledali svoja posla, nisu kao njihovi problematicni i vulgarni drugari divljali po kaficima,jedni drugima razbijali glave LAV pivom, povracali po konobarima itd.... A onda ipak, ti neandertalci su odlucili da svoje najgore nagone iskale na njima.
A za te sadiste koji su ih mucili, najbolje je to sto su dobili smrt brzu i bezbolnu i sto nisu docekali da im se ovi osvete po 100 puta gorom kaznom, zbog trauma koje su im priredili u detinstvu.
Film Moora sve savrseno govori.
Zedj za nasiljem, pogledajte, tu su svi odgovori.
Pucanje po skolama, je najnoviji trend u svetu, "finija" metoda one man punishmenta.
Bojim se da ce i Srbija, biti u skorijoj buducnosti popriste krvavih bitaka po skolama, haosa, anarhije.
To je demokratija kakvu cemo debelo iskusiti na svojoj kozi.
Za neke je zaista zreo drug Staljin.

[Meho Krljic]

Ghoule: Evo linka, samo reč stripovi treba zameniti  rečju u p p s (bez spejsova)

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http://www.upps.org.yu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=390&Itemid=48

Ali ne nadaj se prevelikim otkrovenjima, tekst je o Panišeru a geek murderers se uzgred spominju.

Jimmy: šta???

[Джон Рейнольдс]

Zaboravlja se to da pucanje po školama nije novijeg datuma. Boomtown Rats su snimili I Don't Like Mondays inspirisani činom Brende En Spenser.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Ann_Spencer

Slažem se da Srbiju tek čeka ozbiljan haos po školama. Ozbiljan, naglašavam, pošto haos suvereno vlada već duži niz godina. Ne vredi ni spominjati kolike neznalice iz tih škola već izlaze; baš sam sinoć slučajno zastao na "Keš taksiju" i zabezeknuo se zbog bizarnog neznanja srednjoškolaca (ili onih koji su školu tek završili). Ne mogu ni da zamislim šta doživljavaju nesrećnici koji se ne uklapaju u profil mangupa i njihovih drolja. I uvek se nadam da će jednom da uzmu neku motku i da krenu da mlate oko sebe dok ne iščaše ruku. Onda neka motku prebace u drugu.

[Demo(n)lisher]

I uvek se nadam da će jednom da uzmu neku motku i da krenu da mlate oko sebe dok ne iščaše ruku. Onda neka motku prebace u drugu.

Nadam se usranu motku po dobrom starom a la Milos Obrenovic receptu.

[Ghoul]

BATTLE ROYALE, I tellz ya, BATTLE ROYALE is the only way!

mark my words!

[Rile]

I uvek se nadam da će jednom da uzmu neku motku i da krenu da mlate oko sebe dok ne iščaše ruku. Onda neka motku prebace u drugu.

Nadam se usranu motku po dobrom starom a la Milos Obrenovic receptu.

Adekvatan izraz je "govnajiva motka"!

[Meho Krljic]

Geek-hostile paranoja dobija nove uzlete: momka u Americi uhapsila policija i poslat je u 'alternativnu obvrazovnu instituciju' zato što je napravio mapu za Counter Strike modelovanu po njegovoj školi. Takođe su mu pronašli i čekić u kući i konfiskovali ga kao 'potencijalno oružje'.. Da je danas prvi april, bilo bi mi jasnije..

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=75993

Student arrested over CS map(News)by Rob Purchese
03/05/07 11:42

An American student who made a Counter Strike map of Clements High School has been arrested and sent to an "Alternative Education Center".

Local authorities acted immediately after they received a phone call from a concerned parent whose child had been playing a game that "involved killing" and took place in a virtual representation of the school.

The police searched the culprit's house and found a hammer in the creator's bedroom that they confiscated as a potential weapon, before arresting the lad on suspicion of terrorism. He wasn't charged with any crime and was soon released from custody.

Mother of the boy, Jean Lin, has rallied the Chinese community in an effort to appeal against disciplinary measures Clements High School took against the unidentified boy. Focus is on a 12th May school board election as the case turns progressively more political.

The incident happened just days after the shooting in Virginia, where a Korean student shot and killed 32 of his peers.

[Nightflier]

...cim cimnem ovo pice krvoprolice bice... Kako nam se klinci pomamljuju za svecki trendovi hvala Bogu, Alahu, Jehovi, Hara Krisni i Hara Kiriju sto sam se ratosiljao te srednjoskolske bede.

[Kastor]

Kakva paranoja čoveče...    Jedva čekam da zatvore sve granice, pa da se zatvore u kuće u strahu od komšija, pa u podrume u strahu od ostalih ukućana, pa da seku svoje šake desnice koje bi im mogle nauditi...