Dambldor je gej

[DušMan]

More info revealed from Jo's reading in NYC
2,000 lucky fans had the opportunity to interact with JK Rowling this evening at Carnegie Hall. The reading was rather eventful, as Jo revealed a lot of new information previously unknown about the series.

The most notable news of the night was the revelation of Dumbledore's sexuality. Jo says Dumbledore was gay and in love with Gellert Grindelwald. JK, in response to the audience's reaction, said "If I had known this would have made you so happy, I would have told you years ago."

Not quite as head-turning, but equally significant, Jo announced Neville Longbottom's marriage with Hannah Abbott. Hannah became the new landlady of the Leaky Cauldron.

Other heart-warming (ha!) news was revealed about Petunia Dursley. The night Harry left Privet Drive, Petunia wanted to tell Harry, "I know what you're up against and I hope it turns out okay."

Stay tuned, more to come soon!

Posted by Ben on Oct 19th | comments disabled | Submit News | Categories: JKR Book Tour 2007, JK Rowling, Book 7

Šta kažeš, Džejk/Hiro?

[Mixitron M. Storm]

Eh, ovaj članak, temeljno prerađen*, sam video u nekom Blicu od pre +/- dve nedelje.

* Toliko temeljno prerađen da sam se pitao koje sam ja to Potere čitao kad ne znam neke likove i događaje. Da ne poveruje čovek šta sve 'ozbiljne dnevne novine' mogu da objave.

[Berserker]

A ja se pitam sta ce ova tema u ovom odeljku umestu u "Razonodi", ili jos bolje, "Deponiji"

[Truba]

ša me gabri

[DušMan]

A ja se pitam sta ce ova tema u ovom odeljku umestu u "Razonodi", ili jos bolje, "Deponiji"

Ima veze sa Poterom, a Poter mu dodje nekakva vrsta fantastike, pa mi bi najprikladnije da ga ovde smestim.

@Mixi: Vest je bila stara dan-dva pre nego sto sam je ja okacio.

Zanimljivo je da niko ne reaguje narocito.

[Usul]

Zanimljivo je da niko ne reaguje narocito.

To je verovatno zato sto je nivo zanimljivosti pomenute vestu na nivou godisnjeg izvestaja zetve kukuruza u Keniji.

[Mixitron M. Storm]

@Mixi: Vest je bila stara dan-dva pre nego sto sam je ja okacio.

Baš ću da pamtim tačno kad sam video tu glupost

[Tex Murphy]

Ja se recimo strongli disagriujem. Roulingova može da priča šta hoće - kad se djelo jednom napiše i objavi, postaje javno dobro i njena interpretacija je jednako relevantna kao i tumačenje Pere ložača. Koliko znam, do sada u filmovima (knjige nisam čitao) nigdje nije nagoviješteno da bi matori starkelja mogao da bude seksualno devijantan.

[DušMan]

Ekšli, u zadnjoj knjizi se pojavljuju flešbekovi iz Dambldorove mladosti gde se on naročito sprijateljio sa nekim čarobnjak likom, te je s njim kovao zavere i svakih par minuta mu pisao pisma i sl.
Dok sam čitao knjigu pomislio sam kako je to gej, ali sam to pripisivao tome što je to ipak štivo gde muškarci stalno nose 'aljine i mašu štapićima, pa je gej po, što bi mladi rekli, difoltu.

[lilit]

Ma fakat je to prikazano "gejish".
Dambldor i prijatelj su iskazivali supremacizam na svakom koraku, kao sad su oni najbolji & najpametniji & whatever, a svi drugi koji nisu onakvi kakvi oni zamisljaju da bi Wizards trebali da budu, mogu kolateralno da se nose u PM.
Dambldor se onda grdno razocarao, javlja mi se da se nije radilo o doktrini vec o ljubavi, i posle vec ima elemenata meksicke serije...
Elem, on je slomljenog srca odlucio da ce biti dobar i vise nikad nece raditi for the greater good. A mene su ionako vazda nervirali utilitarijanci pa sam to Dambldoru uzela kao olaksavajucu okolnost.

[morbius]

Ja još uvek ne mogu da ukapiram kako iko stariji od 14 godina može da čita Hari Potera.

[Berserker]

Ja sam ga citao, sa svojih 30+. Prvi deo je ok, cak i zanimljiv cisto zbog originalne zamisli, ali svaki sledeci je sve slabiji i slabiji, prelazeci u klasican petparacki triler sa pocetnickim zapletom i neubedljivim raspletima. Iz mazohizma dogurao sam do petog dela kad sam konacno digao ruke od ovog klasicnog NWO produkta...

[DušMan]

Zanimljivo. Meni je bas kec totalno detinjast i dosadan, sa danasnje tacke gledista. Zbog cetvorke (narocito zbog kraja) sam mislio da serijal ide u dobrom pravcu, ali je posle tog aopet postalo dosadnjikavo.
Moj problem sa knjigama HP je sto su prvih 6 radjene po obrascu "Hari mora na uzbudljiv nacin da stigne od kuce Darslijevih do skole, skola, smaranje, carobnjacka ucenja, crne misli koje muce Harisa, veliko finale".
Vremenom sam se navukao kao i na svaku sapunicu, pa mi je bilo besmisleno ne pogledati kako se zavrsava.

[Spanish_Caravan]

Ja sam svaki dio čitala po dva puta i to isključivo zbog Severusa Snejpa i njegovih genijalnosti. Dambldor je Dobar i Fin, Poter je srecni naivko, ali zato Snape, genije.

[Boban]

Poter nije osmišljen kao naivko, nego kao totalni imbecil, to je ona situacija kada je glavni junak toliko glup da počneš da navijaš za monstrume.

[DušMan]

Necu da spojlujem, ali nacin na koji je Snejp zavrsio sedmu knjigu je svakako bezvezan.

[lilit]

moj omiljeni lik je belatrix lestrejndz.  

[morbius]

Jebote, koliko vas je.    

Ne znam, možda sam ja lud, ali Hari Poter mi je toliko detinjast da mi nije jasno kako bilo ko iole ozbiljan može da to čita/gleda. U stvari ja jesam lud, ali to ne menja činjenicu da je Hari Poter knjiga za malu decu.  

[---]

evo, ovde neki englezi u Timesu tvrde da nije baš tako naivan taj hari poter hari..

Harry Potter and the shadow of Karamazov
The darkest and most allusive of J. K. Rowling's seven books points to C. S. Lewis, Tolkien – and even Dostoevsky

Roz Kaveney

J. K. Rowling
HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS
608pp. Bloomsbury. £17.99.
978 0 7475 9105 4

The last book in a series is always a summation as well as a conclusion. It has to make sense of what has gone before and where possible repair the damage done by miscalculation in the earlier work. If there was an over-arching plan at the start, it will have been modified along the way, if not in the details of the plot, then in the emotional feel and moral content of the arc. If Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is, for all its weaknesses, a far more satisfying work than some of its predecessors, it is because J. K. Rowling is an intelligent writer for whom writing the most popular children's books in history has been an education in responsibility and power not unlike that of her boy wizard hero.


In plot terms, this is a nightmare of persecution and random malice that resolves into a cathartic battle. Voldemort's forces take over the Ministry of Magic and Hogwarts; they persecute mixed-blood wizards in scenes that echo the persecutions of modern history, from the Nazis and Stalin's purges to contemporary racism. Harry and his friends spend much of their time on the run with nowhere to lay their heads, accumulating the wizardly plot tokens – embedded correlatives for knowledge of morality and of the past – that will enable their victory. Many of the good die, sometimes in a shockingly casual manner; many secrets are revealed, not all of which have been foreshadowed. This is a dark book which may upset younger readers, but it will also instruct them in the cost of what is valuable.

It has two epigraphs, one from Aeschylus and the other from the Quaker William Penn. The first, from The Libation Bearers, is an appeal to the cthonic gods to aid the children of Agamemnon to end the hereditary curse on the House of Atreus with a final act of vengeance; the second is a reminder that, for believers, the dead are not dead but influences in our hearts. In a way that is all the more powerful for not being specifically religious, Rowling has rethought her books as a move away from an old law of vengeance to a new law of forgiveness offered: a forgiveness possible because the murdered live on.

This is the most allusive of Rowling's seven books. There are obvious allusions to C. S. Lewis and to Tolkien, her predecessors: Harry's walk to what he believes will be his death among the mocking forces of evil re-sembles Aslan's desecration by the Witch and her minions; his decisions to spare life parallel Frodo's mercy to Gollum and, at one point, Frodo's rescue by eagles from the wreck of Mordor. Less expected is an allusion which may be to Dostoevsky or to William James (or to Ursula Le Guin citing them). In the ecstasy allowed to the protagonists of epic fantasy, Harry talks to the shade of Dumbledore in an empty Kings Cross station; a small flayed child screams beneath a bench.


That child is a portion of Voldemort's soul, but also a reference to the tortured child in The Brothers Karamazov. Alyosha refuses to accept it; Harry makes a different choice. Evil chooses to be its own doom, and by refusing grace for itself, enables it elsewhere. A key theme is repentance: Harry's oppressive foster family are allowed the grace of embarrassment and quite unlikely villains plausibly repent. There are revelations about the role of Severus Snape and some startling insights into the career of Dumbledore, Harry's Gandalf, who turns out to have much to repent, not least his ruthless moulding of Harry as a suicide weapon. This is not literally a story about casting youth and magic aside and breaking your wand; it is, however, a book about moving beyond parents, mentors and their expectations, about fighting your own battles, not the wars of earlier generations.

Of course, there are faults alongside all this insightfulness; Rowling's prose is rarely more than adequate, sometimes, as in an epilogue set two decades later, perfunctory and mawkish. She is too concerned to revisit old characters and settings – a trip to Gringott's Bank is something of an indulgence and the Battle for Hogwarts is a ticking off of every detail with which fans have been obsessed. In the end, however, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows reconfigures what started as a silly tale about a school for wizards into an emotionally powerful moral fable.

[Ghoul]

možda, ali - WHO CARES?

hari... jebeni... poter!      

[scallop]

Ma, i Hari Poter je gej I autorica   I oni koji sa pogrešne strane koriste papir na kome se to štampa    

[Usul]

Ceo taj tekst mi lici na slicnu izdrkotinu po kojoj Lion King predstavlja Magbeta za decu...

[Jake Chambers]

More info revealed from Jo's reading in NYC
2,000 lucky fans had the opportunity to interact with JK Rowling this evening at Carnegie Hall. The reading was rather eventful, as Jo revealed a lot of new information previously unknown about the series.

The most notable news of the night was the revelation of Dumbledore's sexuality. Jo says Dumbledore was gay and in love with Gellert Grindelwald. JK, in response to the audience's reaction, said "If I had known this would have made you so happy, I would have told you years ago."

Not quite as head-turning, but equally significant, Jo announced Neville Longbottom's marriage with Hannah Abbott. Hannah became the new landlady of the Leaky Cauldron.

Other heart-warming (ha!) news was revealed about Petunia Dursley. The night Harry left Privet Drive, Petunia wanted to tell Harry, "I know what you're up against and I hope it turns out okay."

Stay tuned, more to come soon!

Posted by Ben on Oct 19th | comments disabled | Submit News | Categories: JKR Book Tour 2007, JK Rowling, Book 7

Šta kažeš, Džejk/Hiro?

Kažem da me boli đon, i da je to verovatno zbog Mekelena u ulozi Gandalfa... blah.