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Ghoul

radije bih ličio na sebe nego na varvarina. 8-)
zapravo, radije bih ličio na sebe nego na bilo koga drugog.
ako je to greh, neka gorim u paklu zbog toga!

dakle, sve je kako treba, uključujući i tvoje trade mark izvrdavanje konkretnog odgovora.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

scallop

Izvrdavaš ti i nikog nisi ubedio u suprotno. Ništa strašno, jesi li ofarbao jaja za preksutra? Znaš kako to ide. Za pod jelku.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Ghoul

ofarbaću jaja da lilit ponese u te grdne gej barove u NY sohou.
ako poželi da se s nekim...  eh ...tuca.

dobro da si me potsetio.
ko bi reko da čovek s alzhajmerom pamti takve stvari.
samo još da se seti ZAŠTO je pomenuo baš soho....
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

scallop

Pozdravlja te Alojzije i pita što se ne baviš nečim gde si dorastao. Najpre si opleo da je Soho samo u Londonu, a onda potržeš gej klubove kao da će neko da te tamo vodi. Sad si već prostak i Lillit te sigurno više neće vodati po grobljima. Idi, piši neke gadosti, mada ni to ne umeš, kad i Bata to primećuje. Ne znam ni da li smo rešili tvoje falš samizdate. Alojzije stalno veli: "Pitaj ga, pitaj ga... priznaće na kraju..." A, ja, kao fini pa neću. Ajde, cimni Alexdelarga da ti čuva stražu. :mrgreen:
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Ghoul

Alexdelarge! pomagaj!
dekici se pokvarila kolica!
neko ga naljutio?

trubi li, trubi, al ništa ga ne razumem!
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

scallop

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Alexdelarge

kakav london, kakav njujork, znam samo za soho na dorčolu! 8-)
i nemam vremena za vaša zavitlavanja, počeo sam NAKOT  da čitam! :twisted:
moj se postupak čitanja sastoji u visokoobdarenom prelistavanju.

srpski film je remek-delo koje treba da dobije sve prve nagrade.

Ghoul

Quote from: Alexdelarge on 04-01-2012, 23:12:14
i nemam vremena za vaša zavitlavanja, počeo sam NAKOT  da čitam! :twisted:

auh, onda je jasno da su ti svi mentalni kapaciteti time zaokupljeni!

ne može svako kao ja da piše text za slovence, četuje na fejsu, sluša mjuz, skida filmove i zajebava skalopa istovremeno! 8-)
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Albedo 0

Quote from: Ghoul on 04-01-2012, 21:26:14
možda u londonskom.
za njujorški još čekam da mi skalop objasni.
ne kažem ja da nema gej klubova ni u sohou (NYC), ali ja na guglu nađoh samo jedan klub te sorte u tom kraju.
sad, ako je skalop zapeo dalilit mora izričito u sohou da traži gej klubove, verujem da on zna nešto više.
samo zato pitam, oću nešto da naučim od starog mornara.


Nadam se da je ovim dosta objašnjeno: Hint: Broadway.



Alexdelarge

Quote from: Ghoul on 04-01-2012, 23:24:24
auh, onda je jasno da su ti svi mentalni kapaciteti time zaokupljeni!


pa, naravno, kad je ovaj skrobonja uveo ovoliki broj likova! :mrgreen:
moj se postupak čitanja sastoji u visokoobdarenom prelistavanju.

srpski film je remek-delo koje treba da dobije sve prve nagrade.

lilit

lako se vama zajebavati dok pošten svet radi.  :mrgreen:

za neverovati je šta ispade od moje aluzije na simpatičnu diskusiju od pre nekoliko meseci, a vezanu za NYC i definicuju gej klubova   :-? . srećom, pa je skalop sve shvatio. :)

gule šic! nemoj sad da vrdaš zbog božić/uskrs zamene. jasno je da nisi znao kad se šta radi i samo si porastao u mojim očima zbog toga. čak ću ti poslati razglednicu iz NYC ako me ne uhapse na ulasku.

last but not least, zbog gej clubs ću da posetim Filadelfiju. em je na glasu, em ću imati posvećenog/iskusnog vodiča. :lol:
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Ghoul

Quote from: lilit_depp on 04-01-2012, 23:55:16
jasno je da nisi znao kad se šta radi i samo si porastao u mojim očima zbog toga.

jedina žena koja me savršeno razume srećno je udata!  :cry: :x
just my luck!  xfoht
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

scallop

Poseti ti zatvorenu pijacu na Market St. u Filadelfiji i kupi nešto kod Amiša. Odmah iza pijace ti je i "Kineska četvrt".
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

lilit

savršeno razumevanje je precenjena kategorija  :mrgreen: .
poslušaj zato savet što će ti lilit dati: - pazi šta radiš da ne bi završio kao ja!

hvala skalope.
btw, putujem tek za gulov božić, tako da imam još 3 meseca za pravljenje planova. srećom nemam para pošto mi se javlja da bih rado odletela i do floride, pa odatle na neko krstarenje....pa gde završim. xrofl
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Ghoul

Quote from: lilit_depp on 05-01-2012, 00:14:10
pazi šta radiš da ne bi završio kao ja!

misliš - u gej baru?

ma bez brige.
kad to nisam overio dok bejah godinu dana u san francisku, teško da ću sad.

osim ako nema neki baš baš dobar u tom skalopovom sohou.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

lilit

tad si bio mlad i naivan :mrgreen:.
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

lilit

ne edituj postove dok pošten svet odgovara na njih. :lol:
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Mme Chauchat


Alexdelarge

moj se postupak čitanja sastoji u visokoobdarenom prelistavanju.

srpski film je remek-delo koje treba da dobije sve prve nagrade.

lilit

ova jevtra rešila da me sahrani. kad se samo setim koliko sam verovala da će obama doneti neku lepšu ameriku, dodje mi da se obesim. :lol:
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Mme Chauchat

Nisi bila jedina, avaj, avaj.

Ghoul

Quote from: lilit_depp on 05-01-2012, 01:59:12ova jevtra rešila da me sahrani. kad se samo setim koliko sam verovala da će obama doneti neku lepšu ameriku, dodje mi da se obesim.

podseti me da ti se izbljujem na cipele kad se budemo videli.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

lilit

That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

džin tonik

lijepo obama rekose "imamo premalo pamuka, a previse crnaca." i onda posustase. nije napravio niti jednu plantazu.

lilit

nije, al meni dade 10 godina multi.
živeo obama i živela hilari! :lol: :lol:
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Ghoul

dobro, ali imajte na umu da je pamuk stigao u harlem a ne u soho.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

scallop

U Haarlem. Za potrebe lokalnih gej klubova.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

lilit

vas dvojica se u stvari volite. :)
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

džin tonik

Quote from: Ghoul on 05-01-2012, 00:01:45
jedina žena koja me savršeno razume srećno je udata!  :cry: :x
just my luck!  xfoht

vrag stvarno uvijek sere na najvecu hrpu. bas si sretan. te su najbolje ljubavnice...

Ghoul

Quote from: lilit_depp on 05-01-2012, 19:14:33
vas dvojica se u stvari volite. :)

ti zaista gledaš na svet kroz ružičaste naočari.
zato ćeš i da završiš u gej klubu.
jedinom u sohou.
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

lilit

Quote from: Ghoul on 05-01-2012, 19:31:54
ti BIRAŠ da gledaš na svet kroz ružičaste naočari.

ispravljeno. :lol:
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Plut


Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

Lord Kufer

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/08/us/washington-missing-base-equipment/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

Quote(CNN) -- Nearly 100 soldiers are confined to a Washington state base following a report of missing sensitive military equipment, including scopes and night lasers, a spokesman said Sunday.

Soldiers in the 4th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division unit can have day visits but must sleep at the base at night, said Maj. Chris Ophardt, a spokesman at Joint Base Lewis-McChord.

Authorities conducted an inventory last month and are trying to determine how long the equipment has been missing, he said.

The unit has been home from Iraq since September 2010.

Authorities have offered a $10,000 reward. No more information was immediately available.

Meho Krljic

Squad mate testifies in Marine's Iraq deaths trial   

Jeste, pobili smo te žene i decu, koji nisu uzvraćali vatrom na nas, ali nismo učinili ništa pogrešno... 

Quote..CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) — A former squad mate of a Marine implicated in one of the Iraq War's highest profile war crimes cases testified Tuesday that the group raced to nearby homes after a roadside bombing, firing rounds and tossing grenades for 45 minutes, even though the Marines did not take gunfire, come across a single insurgent or find a weapon.

Still, former Cpl. Stephen Tatum told a military jury at Camp Pendleton that he felt the squad did nothing wrong that day in the town of Haditha in 2005, when Marines killed 24 Iraqis, including unarmed women and children.

He said the squad feared insurgents were hiding in the nearby homes after the bomb exploded.

Tatum gave his account during the trial of Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, who led the squad and faces nine counts of manslaughter.

Military prosecutors have implicated the Camp Pendleton Marine from Meriden, Conn., in 19 of the 24 Iraqi deaths. He is the last defendant in one of the biggest criminal cases against U.S. troops from the war. One squad member was acquitted. Six others, including Tatum, had their cases dropped.

Tatum acknowledged that charges against him were dismissed in exchange for testifying.

He told military prosecutors during his testimony that squad members tossed grenades and shot rounds into rooms of Iraqi homes in the wake of the bombing that killed Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas and injured two others.

Immediately after the explosion, Tatum testified, the Marines came under small arms fire, but he did not know from where. Wuterich and another Marine fatally shot five Iraqis outside a white car near the scene then headed toward the closest home, Tatum said.

Before raiding it, Wuterich told him to "treat the house as hostile," the former Marine testified. Tatum understood that to mean there were armed individuals inside and he did not need to identify his targets to attack.

Following his squad leader, Tatum said the Marines edged along walls with their weapons drawn. They tossed fragmented grenades into rooms. In a back room, Tatum said he joined Wuterich in firing rounds but was unable to see what he was shooting at because of the darkness and flying debris.

"I saw silhouettes of targets and that was really it," Tatum said, adding that it looked like there was a man standing or kneeling.

Then someone yelled a person had fled. The Marines rushed out to a neighboring house, tossing in grenades and shooting off rounds there as well. Tatum saw the body of an Iraqi man near the kitchen when he went in after his fellow troops.

While checking an empty room, Tatum said he heard movements in a back bedroom and then Wuterich firing his M-16. He went in to assist Wuterich, shooting at what he said were silhouettes, some big, some small.

"The only thing that gave me any indication there was a hostile act in there would be Staff Sgt. Wuterich firing, sir," Tatum told military prosecutor Lt. Col. Sean Sullivan.

Wuterich also acknowledged that he did not positively identify his targets, three investigators testified.

Tatum returned later when the house had been determined to be safe and learned they had killed an unarmed woman and children in the room.

Defense attorney Neal Puckett suggested Tatum had changed details of his account since talking to investigators. Tatum said mistakes could have been made in the investigating reports but he stood by his testimony.

Wuterich listened, occasionally rubbing his chin and whispering in the ear of his attorney during the day's testimony.

The defense says Wuterich believed insurgents were in the homes and that's why he ordered his Marines to shoot first and ask questions later.

The issue is whether Wuterich reacted appropriately as a Marine squad leader in protecting his troops in the midst of a chaotic war or went on a vengeful rampage, disregarding combat rules and leading his men to shoot and blast indiscriminately at Iraqi civilians.

Prosecutors in their opening statement Monday painted a picture of a young Marine with no prior combat experience losing control after seeing his friend's body blown apart.

Prosecutor Maj. Nicholas Gannon said the evidence will show Wuterich "made a series of fatal assumptions and he lost control of himself."

Wuterich has said he regretted the loss of civilian lives but believed he was operating within military combat rules.

The tragedy prompted tightening of those policies, with commanders demanding their troops positively identify their targets before firing.

Staff Sgt. Justin Laughner went in after the raids to gather military intelligence and testified Tuesday that he found no signs of insurgents. He took photographs of 23 bodies.

In 2008 testimony in the court-martial of another Marine in the case, Laughner acknowledged deleting photos he took at the scene under an officer's orders and later lied repeatedly to investigators about what happened to the images.

"I remember some of the kids had their eyes open," Laughner testified Tuesday, saying he was shaken by the carnage he saw in the back bedroom.

"I just wanted to leave the bedroom," he said. "I just thought it was really sad."


Anomander Rejk

Na netu se pojavile snimke hrabrih i čestitih marinaca koji uriniraju po mrtvim talibanskim borcima...

Tajno pišem zbirke po kućama...

Father Jape

Aha, na to se dakle odnosio onaj tvit od jutros:

Something odd about a morality where urinating on someone is so much worse than shooting their face off.
Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Anomander Rejk

Bio sam stavio sliku, ali sam je skinuo, to je ipak previše.
Tajno pišem zbirke po kućama...

Meho Krljic

Da se dogovorimo, nisu baš ni talibanski borci neke cvećke sklone dobrom ukusu i poštovanju Ženevskih konvencija, i to kažem ja kao musliman, tako da, lepo vaspitanje na stranu, mene zaista manje potresa pišanje po mrtvom neprijatelju od ubijanja civila koji ne uzvraćaju paljbom a koje se pominje u mom postu iznad.

scallop

Ako imaš sliku kako talibani pišaju po Amerima ti slobodno postavi.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

Evo umesto toga kako talibani bičuju devojku na javnom mestu (u Pakistanu

Video Showing Beating Of Girl by Taliban in Pakistan

lilit

najbolji su ovi što stoje i gledaju.
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

zakk

http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/130874/dead_teen_sued_by_victim
QuoteDead Teen Sued for Losing Control of Flying Body Parts

You think you've heard it all until I tell you that an appeals court in Illinois recently ruled that a woman is allowed to sue a dead teen's estate for injuries caused by his flying body parts. The 18-year-old boy was running across the Amtrak tracks to catch another train but didn't make it -- he was hit by an oncoming train going 70 mph and his body was torn apart by the force and flung onto a nearby passengers' waiting platform. The woman, 58, was struck by a sizable chunk of the boy's body and was knocked to the ground, breaking her leg and wrist. The court ruled that the boy's death was "reasonably foreseeable" and that his estate can be held responsible for his negligence.

...
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Ghoul

https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Anomander Rejk

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-01-2012, 14:01:40
Da se dogovorimo, nisu baš ni talibanski borci neke cvećke sklone dobrom ukusu i poštovanju Ženevskih konvencija, i to kažem ja kao musliman, tako da, lepo vaspitanje na stranu, mene zaista manje potresa pišanje po mrtvom neprijatelju od ubijanja civila koji ne uzvraćaju paljbom a koje se pominje u mom postu iznad.
Mda, a Ameri takođe nemaju naviku pucati na civile koji ne uzvraćaju paljbom...nikako to ne rade.
Tajno pišem zbirke po kućama...

Meho Krljic

Koncentriši se malo, jebem mu lebac. O ovom postu govorim:

Quote
..CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) — A former squad mate of a Marine implicated in one of the Iraq War's highest profile war crimes cases testified Tuesday that the group raced to nearby homes after a roadside bombing, firing rounds and tossing grenades for 45 minutes, even though the Marines did not take gunfire, come across a single insurgent or find a weapon.

Still, former Cpl. Stephen Tatum told a military jury at Camp Pendleton that he felt the squad did nothing wrong that day in the town of Haditha in 2005, when Marines killed 24 Iraqis, including unarmed women and children.

He said the squad feared insurgents were hiding in the nearby homes after the bomb exploded.

Tatum gave his account during the trial of Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, who led the squad and faces nine counts of manslaughter.

Military prosecutors have implicated the Camp Pendleton Marine from Meriden, Conn., in 19 of the 24 Iraqi deaths. He is the last defendant in one of the biggest criminal cases against U.S. troops from the war. One squad member was acquitted. Six others, including Tatum, had their cases dropped.

Tatum acknowledged that charges against him were dismissed in exchange for testifying.

He told military prosecutors during his testimony that squad members tossed grenades and shot rounds into rooms of Iraqi homes in the wake of the bombing that killed Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas and injured two others.

Immediately after the explosion, Tatum testified, the Marines came under small arms fire, but he did not know from where. Wuterich and another Marine fatally shot five Iraqis outside a white car near the scene then headed toward the closest home, Tatum said.

Before raiding it, Wuterich told him to "treat the house as hostile," the former Marine testified. Tatum understood that to mean there were armed individuals inside and he did not need to identify his targets to attack.

Following his squad leader, Tatum said the Marines edged along walls with their weapons drawn. They tossed fragmented grenades into rooms. In a back room, Tatum said he joined Wuterich in firing rounds but was unable to see what he was shooting at because of the darkness and flying debris.

"I saw silhouettes of targets and that was really it," Tatum said, adding that it looked like there was a man standing or kneeling.

Then someone yelled a person had fled. The Marines rushed out to a neighboring house, tossing in grenades and shooting off rounds there as well. Tatum saw the body of an Iraqi man near the kitchen when he went in after his fellow troops.

While checking an empty room, Tatum said he heard movements in a back bedroom and then Wuterich firing his M-16. He went in to assist Wuterich, shooting at what he said were silhouettes, some big, some small.

"The only thing that gave me any indication there was a hostile act in there would be Staff Sgt. Wuterich firing, sir," Tatum told military prosecutor Lt. Col. Sean Sullivan.

Wuterich also acknowledged that he did not positively identify his targets, three investigators testified.

Tatum returned later when the house had been determined to be safe and learned they had killed an unarmed woman and children in the room.

Defense attorney Neal Puckett suggested Tatum had changed details of his account since talking to investigators. Tatum said mistakes could have been made in the investigating reports but he stood by his testimony.

Wuterich listened, occasionally rubbing his chin and whispering in the ear of his attorney during the day's testimony.

The defense says Wuterich believed insurgents were in the homes and that's why he ordered his Marines to shoot first and ask questions later.

The issue is whether Wuterich reacted appropriately as a Marine squad leader in protecting his troops in the midst of a chaotic war or went on a vengeful rampage, disregarding combat rules and leading his men to shoot and blast indiscriminately at Iraqi civilians.

Prosecutors in their opening statement Monday painted a picture of a young Marine with no prior combat experience losing control after seeing his friend's body blown apart.

Prosecutor Maj. Nicholas Gannon said the evidence will show Wuterich "made a series of fatal assumptions and he lost control of himself."

Wuterich has said he regretted the loss of civilian lives but believed he was operating within military combat rules.

The tragedy prompted tightening of those policies, with commanders demanding their troops positively identify their targets before firing.

Staff Sgt. Justin Laughner went in after the raids to gather military intelligence and testified Tuesday that he found no signs of insurgents. He took photographs of 23 bodies.

In 2008 testimony in the court-martial of another Marine in the case, Laughner acknowledged deleting photos he took at the scene under an officer's orders and later lied repeatedly to investigators about what happened to the images.

"I remember some of the kids had their eyes open," Laughner testified Tuesday, saying he was shaken by the carnage he saw in the back bedroom.

"I just wanted to leave the bedroom," he said. "I just thought it was really sad."



pokojni Steva

Se sme lebac pcovati, sunce li ti?!
Jelte, jel' i kod vas petnaes' do pola dvanaes'?

lilit

jbg, valjda nas ne iznenađuje što su ljudi neljudi čim sklonis zakon i strah od doživotne robije ili smrtne presude...
ili su neljudi u startu, pa im fenotip pod stare dane omogućio da se razmašu.
ovoj planeti će samo napalm pomoći.
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

lilit

btw, ovo im je možda i deo obuke? :(

Most dead Japanese were desecrated and mutilated. "American soldiers on Okinawa were seen urinating into the gaping mouth of the slain. They were 'rebutchered.' 'As the bodies jerked and quivered,' a marine on Guadalcanal wrote of the repeated shooting of corpses, 'we would laugh gleefully and hysterically'" (p. 209). As the GIs closed in on the Japanese archipelago, the more the difference between combatants and noncombatants became fuzzy and almost pointless to them.
http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=7814
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Josephine

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-01-2012, 14:11:32
Evo umesto toga kako talibani bičuju devojku na javnom mestu (u Pakistanu

Video Showing Beating Of Girl by Taliban in Pakistan

Ovo baš i nisam morala da vidim sada.

Što se tiče uriniranja po leševima - čini mi se da su svi "neljudski" postupci i ratni zločini reakcije, protesti i iracionalni postupci izazvani strahom od neposredne svoje i tuđe smrti u ratu. Jadnici.


Eh, da - Amerika je već prešla ivicu i otišla u tri lepe. Još par godina da to svima bude jasno i vidljivo.