Red State (by Kevin Smith)

[Mark]

Rece pre neki dan Kevin Smit da je poceo sa snimanjem filma Red State! !

Poslednja vest je da je jednu od glavnih uloga dobio John Goodman.

Red State

Smith announced at the Wizard World Chicago 2006 convention that his next project would move in a different direction, and would be a horror film. In April 2007, Smith revealed the title of the movie to be Red State and said that it was inspired by pastor Fred Phelps, or as Smith claimed, "very much about that subject matter, that point of view and that position taken to the absolute extreme. It's certainly not Phelps himself but it's very much inspired by a Phelps (like) figure." With the script finished, Smith originally planned to shoot the film in late March or early April 2009. In a blog update, Smith stated that Bob and Harvey Weinstein have passed on Red State.  The Weinsteins had thus far been involved in distribution of all Kevin Smith films, with the exceptions of Mallrats and Dogma. Speaking at a live event in London on October 13, 2009, Smith stated that funding had been secured for Red State but he is more in the mindset to proceed with Hit Somebody and hold Red State off for a year. Another reason cited was a superstition he holds around dying after his tenth movie, and not wanting to leave an "unpleasant, nasty" film as his last.  In February 2010, he talked about his project with Cinssu, saying that the project is currently working out financial challenges, and may even get funded through investments from his many loyal fans.  On March 23, 2010 it was announced that Smith will begin production of the $20m project in July 2010. In July 2010, Smith stated on his Twitter that "God-willing, Sundance in Jan for RED STATE."

On July 24, 2010, it was reported that Michael Parks had signed on to star in the film, and on September 5, 2010, Smith confirmed that Matt L. Jones was also cast.  On the September 20th edition of his podcast Hollywood Babble-on, Kevin Smith announced that John Goodman had joined the cast for Red State.

Ovo je prvi horor Kevina Smita. Takodje ovo ce posle filma Cop Out biti svojevrsni povratak na rad sa malim budzetom u nezavisnoj produkciji i rad sa sopstvenim scenarijom sto je teren na kojem se Smit najbolje pokazao. Relativan neuspeh zadnja dva Smitova filma bi mogao da uprilici i svojevrsnu make it or break it atmosferu oko ovog ostvarenja! Donekle je Smit u situaciji u kojoj je vec bio posle filma Mallrats, tada se na scenu vratio remek-delom Chasing Amy. Ipak, moram priznati da je jako zabrinjavajuce to sto Smit ulazi u horor zanr u najgorem mogucem trenutku za horore ili sa bar pet godina zakasnjenja... Plus, nisam siguran ali bih se usudio da kazem i to da Smitova fan baza sasvim sigurno nije previse zainteresovana za horor, kao sto ni fanovi horora nisu previse zaiteresovani za filmove Kevina Smita... Dakle, bice veoma neizvesno!

CAST:

John Goodman
Melissa Leo
Michael Angarano
Kyle Gallner
Stephen Root
Michael Parks
Nicholas Braun
Kevin Pollak
Haley Ramm
Ralph Garman
Matt L. Jones

Kevin Smith's lowest budget film since Chasing Amy (1997).

A first for writer/director Kevin Smith, he has stated this film is a strict non-comedy saying, "It's a nasty-ass $4mil horror flick with few (if any) redeeming characters."

This is the first feature Kevin Smith and his cinematographer David Klien will shoot using the all digital RED camera.
 

ZAPLET:

A group of kids encounter a crazed preacher who gives a whole new meaning to the term "extreme fundamentalism."

WIKIPEDIJA:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_State_%282011_film%29

IMDb:  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0873886/

PS

BTW Sve sto se desava u Kevin Smith kampu mozete pratiti ovde:

http://www.smodcast.com/



PS2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gSn3WJjN18

[Tex Murphy]

Kuku lele, pa taj Smit je jedan od najnetalentovanijih režisera današnjice, a priča mu zvuči tako "originalno" da je već sad jasno da će ovo da bude teški flop. Kakav crni deseti film, trebalo je da odapne poslije prvog.

[Savajat Erp]

баш сам се питао кад ће Харвестер да искористи још једну прилику да опљуне веселог Кевина Смита  чуди ме да није и пре...

[Mark]

Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Zack & Miri... (ma svi osim Jersey Girl) nisu genijalni zato sto su dobro rezirani! Kevin Smit  je toliko toga vise od rezisera da je potpuno besmisleno napadati ga sa te strane... 

[Tex Murphy]

Kevin Smit je filmmejker i ja ga legitimno napadam zato što su mu filmovi katastrofalno loši (izuzimajući fenomenalne Clerkse i podnošljive Mallratse).

[Mark]

Nije ti se dopao Clerks II ?!?!?

[Tex Murphy]

To nisam gledo.

[Mark]

To bi recimo moralo da ti se svidi (racunam ako si voleo Clerks)!

[Savajat Erp]

добар је Clerks II, наравно, слабији од првог дела, што је и за очекивати...по мени сви К.Смитови филмови иду силазном путањом у односу да Clerks, увек постоје неке недоречености, нешто што много фали да би то били баш добри филмови. али, далеко од тога да су му остали филмови осим Clerks катастрофално лоши.

[Mark]

Heh, meni se cesto cini da u pojedinim Smitovim filmovima ima materijala za nekoliko filmova. Mozda otud neka nedorecenost koju Savajat pominje...

[Mark]

Last night, the cast & crew of RED STATE came over to my house for our wrap party.

We finished shooting late Wednesday night, but I've been cutting the flick every free moment over the 25 days of production. So at our wrap party last night (for the flick we wrapped 2 days ago, mind you) we also watched the flick we just completed. And I'm not talking about some bullshit assembly, either: this puppy is fine-cut, complete with credits and some pre-mixing: 92 mins without credits, 98 mins with a end credit sequence that's not to be believed.

As for having a screening of a flick of this caliber mere sun-ups since we put it to bed... well, this may be an absolute first - particularly considering the director was also the editor (I haven't slept much).

Kicking back and taking in the very same flick we all worked so hard to get in the can with the very same cast & crew that made it a mere 48 hours back more than makes up for the low budget (4 million) and the complete lack of salary. But you do a movie like RED STATE because you love it; everyone's there because they wanna be there; there's not a one of those disgusting, soul-fucking paycheck players in the mix. Passion calls us all together, love of what we're doing/saying bonds us, and the film is the result; the movie's a love child.

And sometimes, that love-child turns out to be a fucking Jedi...

Thanks to all the cast & crew of RED STATE. Thanks to everyone who helped get us here. Thanks for a great wrap party (203 was the most people we'd ever had in the house 'til last night). And thanks, mostly, for lending me your various abilities and artistry; folks like you are why I'll never rock that insecure "A Film By..." bullshit.

I've been yammering on a LOT about self-reliance lately. When I use the term, I don't mean "Fuck off - I do all this shit by myself!" Nobody makes a film alone (unless they're on Chatroulette). Every member of that crew is a filmmaker, each trying to tell their piece of the story with their specialty or hidden talent.

Case in point: here's our RED STATE teaser poster...

Moody, weird, and pitch-perfect for the tone of the film. If I went out to an ad agency here in town, I'd be billed close to 20 grand for a campaign that'd maybe... maybe... include this poster. But this piece of artwork (I call it "The Holy Ghost") didn't come from a top-tier ad agency: Jon Gordon is my RED STATE producer, and this poster was created by his assistant, Melissa Bloom. So we've got a marketing image that was put together by someone who was on set every day, integral to the process that produced the film which inspired this image. This isn't the work of some gun for hire who's doing six other campaigns; we're not just one of many. The marketer is actually family, RED from pre-production all the way through wrap, so she's got an insight into the flick that no ad agency could ever boast (not even one-time Glo-Coat golden boy Don Draper over at SCDP). I'll take passion over pedigree any day.

When we first looked at Melissa's poster, someone said "You should give this to the ad agency as a guideline." Guideline? Was an ad agency gonna make us any happier than Melissa's image made us? The Holy Ghost is kinda perfect, and more importantly? It gives us a starting point from which to launch our home-grown marketing campaign. There's an immediacy to it, but also: anybody could've taken the initiative and did this themselves. If folks were wondering why Melissa was skating up near the blue line, far from the corner where the puck was, it's because she saw where the puck was gonna be, and just waited to make her rush on goal. She shoots, she scores.

So Melissa (with a Gretzky-like assist by Ming), the person on the RED STATE crew least likely to spearhead our marketing campaign, gets the collar for this arresting image - and I fucking dig that. That's what I mean by self-reliance: why go outside the family for shit we can do ourselves? Promote from within - the way Harvey taught us.

In fact, we're doing everything the way Harvey taught us. That's why Jon & I decided to call the RED STATE production company The Harvey Boys - as a shout-out to an Indie Icon who once said "Fuck this traditional bullshit, I'll do it my way..." and gave us a metric shit-ton of awesome flicks.

If you're wondering what Jon & I are doing skating off toward that blue line, The Harvey Boys are hoping to take their shots at the top of 2011...

[Mark]

Audio teaser (teaser za Smitov podkast) za Red State:

Red State - Audio Teaser Trailer

[Mark]

Teaser Trailer:

Red State - Official Teaser Trailer [HD]

[Tex Murphy]

Ako ništa drugo, taj Smitov horor ne može biti gori od njegovih komedija.

[Mark]

Kao sto se i ocekivalo prozvani se i pojavise na premijeri...

Call it the perfect storm of publicity mongers.

For weeks leading up to this year's Sundance, writer-director Kevin Smith's religious horror movie "Red State" has been touted as one of the festival's hottest tickets -- with Smith himself auctioning off two tickets Sunday for $1,000 (which the filmmaker donated to benefit the Sundance Institute Labs).

But the movie has also been a matter of scrutiny for a group whose interests lie somewhere quite outside the indie movie realm.

Last week, the independent, Kansas-based Westboro Baptist Church -- which is widely considered a hate group for its slur-filled diatribes condemning homosexuality -- issued a press release claiming the movie "mocks the servants of God" and labeling Smith a "hater of Biblical proportions."

Church members announced plans to travel to Park City Sunday to protest in front of the Eccles Theater for the "Red State" premiere. To which the outspoken Smith swiftly responded with an entreaty to his fanboy legions -- albeit one laden with inexplicable references to "Ghostbusters" -- to organize their own counter-protest.

"The Harvey [Weinstein] Boys are seeking the aid of the Mighty Thor, hoping he'll lay down his
hammer and instead pick up a protest sign on our behalf, in a Park City battle of the mega-gods!" reads the release. "If he's in reshoots, we'll be reaching out to Sigourney Weaver to channel Zuul on our behalf. If she's not at Sundance this year, we'll start praying to Krom. And if you don't help us, Krom? Then to hell witchoo."
The two tribes massed outside Park City's Eccles Theater two times on Sunday, facing off with picket signs, chanting slogans and singing songs in a strange display in which hate speech was met with absurdist humor, resulting in a kind of media frenzy that was spirited even by Sundance's hype-saturated standards.

Between 2 and 3:30 p.m., a group of five Westboro Baptist Church members holding signs with such slogans as "God hates America," "You're going to hell" and "God is not mocked" (as well as others that have no place in a family blog) rallied near the street side of the theater while a group of about 100 mostly high school aged kids -- who had organized themselves via Facebook and Twitter -- stood jeering just a few feet opposite them. The boisterous crowd of teenagers carried their own picket signs that spelled out funny, cryptic messages such as "Shut up and dance" and "God hates signs."

The Westboro protesters and a smaller group of about 60 counter-protesters returned in the evening before the "Red State" premiere and resumed the heckling and singing, witnessed this time by a gaggle of video crews, photographers and reporters and hemmed in by a contingent of police.

Asked what motivated her to picket a film she had not seen and admittedly knew little about, Westboro Baptist's Shirley Phelps-Roper explained her rationale for traveling from Topeka, Kan., to Utah for the event.

"This is just a beautiful preaching opportunity," Phelps-Roper said. "Kevin Smith can keep mocking and scoffing but we're just going to climb on his back."

On the other side of the divide, Kya Palomaki, 17, and Alex Falten, 18, both seniors at Park City High School, exhorted their classmates to sing Katy Perry's hit "I Kissed a Girl" ever more loudly in an effort to drown out the Westboro protesters' original composition "God Hates America." Falten walked back and forth in front of the counter-protesters waving a large American flag.

"We think they are spewing nonsense," Palomaki said. "So we're spewing nonsense right back at them."

Meanwhile Amy Darling, 31, a programmer for the Calgary Film Festival who is in Park City for Sundance, heard about the counter-protest on Twitter and came out to lend her support. She held a sign that said "God hates nags."

"I'm surprised how boring they are," Darling said of the Westboro contingent. "It's so banal. I definitely feel like I'm on the winning team here."

For his part, Smith walked up at 6:10 p.m., accompanied by a phalanx of about two dozen more counter-protesters. And the event escalated into a full-on media circus. Girls screamed out offers of sex. Cars honked. Cameramen converged around the rotund filmmaker like sharks around a bleeding sea lion. Police jostled counter-protesters and journalists from the sidewalk. Flashbulbs popped; everyone, it seemed, was shouting.

The "Red State" director posed for photo-ops with several different signs, including: "God hates Christian (Louboutin)," "God hates fat (so does SW airlines)," "God hates critics" and "Dogma is dog [excrement]." And seven full minutes later, he left -- a scrum of cameramen and a gaggle of looki-loos following in the director's wake.

A guest walking past the Westboro Baptist protesters was overheard to remark: "They're only making the movie more popular. What idiots!"

[Mark]

Zasad ima svakakvih, podeljenih misljenja...

Initial reactions were mixed following the film's debut screening at Sundance, with Katey Rich of "Cinemablend" reporting in her review, "Messy, overwritten, visually stylish, but kind of a bore. More like Kevin Smith than it looks because nobody ever stops talking. And it's not a horror movie by any usual definition. More like teen horror movie morphs into Waco disaster. Melissa Leo overacts, Michael Parks is impressive as Fred Phelps figure but the character's meaning and purpose in the narrative (or lack thereof) is fuzzy...Red State Is A Messy, Ambitious Disappointment"  Jordan Hoffman in his review for "UGO" also panned the film, saying, "Kevin Smith, a wonderful public speaker and genuinely fun guy, has yet to master the basics of movie making...Kevin Smith's Fundamentalist Red State Has Fundamental Problems." According to Drew Mcweeny of "Motion Captured", "Kevin Smith's 'Red State' fails onscreen and off at its world premiere...A shoddy film and a bait-and-switch event fail to satisfy on any level." Raffi Asdourian of "The Film Stage" wrote that, "While there are glimpses of Smith's wry humor scattered throughout, Red State can't help but feel like a B action movie that started off with ambitious ideas but collapses under it's own preachy weight...it's clear that the smart alec writer still has some things to learn about making a great film." James Rocchi writing for "The Playlist" wrote that "Red State Is An Ambitious, Greatly Flawed Stab At Horror" and commented that, "...Smith has gotten as far as he has with his comedies because it is a writer's genre more so than it is a director's. Horror is the genre of a director—pacing, feel, shots, editing—and Smith's skills are not up to the task..."

Author Neil Gaiman posted a comment on his Twitter feed saying: "Best thing he's ever done. Left me shaken & grateful & wanting to make art."Director Richard Kelly also offered his take on the film and Smith while appearing on Smith's SMovieMakers podcast. He said "I have never seen a filmmaker reinvent himself the way you just have. I won't say anything else because I don't want to spoil anything. It's really really exciting..."

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http://www.deadline.com/2011/01/sundance-watching-kevin-smith-implode/

Sundance: Watching Kevin Smith Implode
By MIKE FLEMING | Monday January 24, 2011 @ 11:56am ESTTags: 2011 Sundance Film Festival, Kevin Smith, Kevin Smith Red State, Kevin Smith Red State Financing, Movies, Red State, Red State Rights Auction, Sundance Film Festival
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Mike Fleming

Kevin Smith lost some cred with indie distributors last night when  he hosed the teams that came to the premiere of Red State looking for an acquisitions title. Instead, they were subjected to a bogus auction that opened and closed with his $20 bid and announcement he would self distribute. Before he got to this sham climax, Smith spent 15 minutes shitting all over those buyers in the crowd, the ones watching films all day and pulling all-nighters to broker deals. His rant made Smith seem like a tortured, angry guy.

Smith introduced the film with a vulgar opening monologue, low-lighted by a spectacularly tasteless joke made at the expense of the young female producer standing next to him. After the movie, Smith reappeared. Wearing a hockey jersey, he introduced Wayne Gretzky's stick, for some reason. Despite this hockey-themed beginning, Smith was oblivious to the fact we all simply wanted him to drop the puck and get on with the auction. Instead, Smith launched into his 15-minute long diatribe that betrayed a misunderstanding of the indie theatrical distribution game. He gave a simplistic and incorrect evaluation of the business model. Smith said if he sold his $4 million Red State, a distributor would need to pay $20 million in P&A, and would then need to gross more than twice that $24 million just to recoup (Smith seemed to forget that P&A triggers ancillary revenues that often provide the profit margin). He made it all sound shady.

Following the "auction,' buyers and their teams filed out of this Twilight Zone episode while Smith discussed his distribution plans and how he'd shun the press and rely on his Twitter and podcast following. He even showed off sneakers he successfully hawks on his sites to prove his economic viability. It was a little like LeBron James's "I'm taking my talents to South Beach spectacle," if instead of James, the player involved was the 10th man on the bench. Smith, who showed us a sale-able movie last night, could simply have said he wanted to try a new business model and everybody would have been on his side. That subversive strategy worked in last year's Sundance pic, Exit Through the Gift Shop. Nobody begrudged its success. Buyers could have skipped the screening and 100 seats would have been there for moviegoers who wanted to see Smith's new film, his first in the horror genre.

Buyers I spoke to were annoyed Smith wasted their time, and  offended that he belittled what they consider to be an honorable business, gambling millions of dollars and working tirelessly to launch new filmmakers and hopefully turn a profit. As Harvey Weinstein once did when he took a chance on Smith's Clerks.

"He stole two hours and insulted every one of us," said one prominent buyer. "We were told this was an acquisition title, we all brought our teams. We could have spent that time evaluating some other movie. Kevin didn't acknowledge that we are the ones risking capital acquiring films and putting up P&A, not him, and he didn't understand how our business works, at all. He was a little like the twisted preacher Michael Parks played in his film. It became life imitating art."

[Mark]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC5yeHehGbs



Kada se o Smitu radi "Twitter and podcast following" uopste nije za potcenjivanje! Smit u ovom trenutku moze da radi sta god zeli i on sada ustvari pokusava da odradi ono sto je kod nas radio Balasevic. Dakle celo prolece i leto ce putovati po svetu i licno (sa svojom povelikom SModcast pratnjom naravno) ce prikazivati svoj film svojim fanovima.

Sto se mene tice ideja je sjajna a sto se Smita tice - nema sanse da mu ovaj film propadne! Pa makar samo vratio ulozeno...

E sad, sto se kvaliteta filma tice... Ostaje cinjenica da ce se fanovima svakako dopasti ili ce bar celokupno iskustvo biti vredno placene karte - jer ce iskustvo podrazumevati film, pa onda uzivo videti Kevina Smita, cuti Q&A sesiju, biti na snimanju podkasta...).

Rekao sam vec jednom, uveren sam da bi mnogi reziseri sve dali da budu u Smitovoj poziciji. I to samo zbog tog kultnog statusa i masovnog i vernog followinga.

[mac]

Ako cena bude balaševićevska Smit neće baš omastiti brke. Srbi možda i jesu paljevine kad je Balašević u pitanju, ali ostatak sveta neće to tolerisati Smitu.

[Mark]

Sundance Film Festival Protest at the Premier of Red State

[ginger toxiqo 2 gafotas]

Red State 2011 VODRiP XviD-SiC



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0873886/

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http://www.fileserve.com/file/MfAubNX/Red.State.2011.VODRiP.XviD-SiC.avi

[Albedo 0]

Javljajte valja li ovo, a po svemu sudeći biće neko ludilo

[Tex Murphy]

Čekaj, ti OZBILJNO za film Kevina Smita pitaš valja li?

[Albedo 0]

Harvi, nemoj sad da me razočaravaš, pa Kevin Smit je, imajući u vidu da je Amerikanac, suvi genije

[Vampirella]

Red State 2011 VODRiP XviD-SiC

Skinula. Dobar je RIP!

[Albedo 0]

i ja skinuo, dobar rip

[Tex Murphy]

Prava šteta što je film loš.

[Albedo 0]

Mene je Kevin zadobio u jednoj epizodi serije Džoi, kada Tribijani dođe kod njega na audiciju i naravno totalno loše odglumi.

Kevin mu kaže: You are a bad actor. Really bad. I know, I've directed Ben Aflleck!

[Mark]

O, procureo RED STATE! HVALA NA DOJAVI!

Znao sam da ce video on demand odraditi stvar...

[Albedo 0]

Pogledao Red State. Povlačim riječi hvale za Smitha. Teška glupost... Nema ni Džeja ni Tihog Boba...

[Ghoul]

http://ljudska_splacina.com/2011/09/red-state-2011.html

[Tex Murphy]

Sudeći po Ghoulovom rivjuu - loš film.

[Albedo 0]

ha, Kevin Smith tvrdi da se film svidio Tarantinu, i da ga je ovaj gledao 2 puta u roku od 72h

[Mark]

Dobar je RED STATE!

A u jednom momentu, pred kraj, je imao potencijal da postane i genijalan, da u zapletu ode negde malo ozbiljnijim biblijskim putevima kojima je vec isao u Dogmi, ali se Smit izgleda popismanio i ipak skrenuo/vratio se na temu post 9/11 Amerike ...

Odlican Majkl Parks bi morao da dobije bar nominaciju za Oskara. Navodno je onu scenu propovedi (koja traje oko 12 min.) snimio iz jednog neprekinutog pokusaja. A i generalno je ostvario sjajnu ulogu u filmu... Inace nisam bas pohvatao sve detalje iz Parksovih monologa pa cu cim se pojavi titl ponovo pogledati ovaj film.

[Tex Murphy]

Uh, what?! OZBILJNIJI putevi u DOGMI???

[Albedo 0]

Ja lično mislim da je Clerks II najozbiljniji Smitov film

[Truba]

iskreno meni se povraća od ovakvih naslova
i nekakvog unutarameričkog naprđivanja i prepucavanja ko je zaostao a ko je naprednjak

[Mark]

Uh, what?! OZBILJNIJI putevi u DOGMI???

Koliko god da je Dogma bila zezanje, ipak si morao da bar malo znas katolicku dogmu da bi razumeo film. Dakle, bio je to pomalo i ozbiljan film. A tako je i sada, u Red State sa trubama koje oznacavaju dolazak apokalipse i  pocetak vaznesenja.

[Mark]

Ja lično mislim da je Clerks II najozbiljniji Smitov film

Mozda se samo zaj**avas, ali ja sam ga shvatio bas tako. Kada se onomad pojavio, pomisio sam da bi mu to mogao biti poslednji film jer je u njemu prilicno efektno zatvorio jedan narativni krug svoje karijere.

[Tex Murphy]

pomisio sam da bi mu to mogao biti poslednji film

Apparently, we weren't that lucky.

Koliko god da je Dogma bila zezanje, ipak si morao da bar malo znas katolicku dogmu da bi razumeo film.

Šta podrazumijevaš pod "katoličkom dogmom"? I kako se u nju uklapa čudovište od izmeta?

[mac]

Katolička dogma je oslikana u pravilu "kako je na Zemlji, tako je na Nebu", to jest Crkva je preuzela na sebe ne samo da interpretira i sprovodi nebeske zakone, nego i da donosi nove po potrebi. Koliko je to nelogično upravo se vidi u situaciji da ako je sve tako kako piše ljudi mogu da dovedu celu Kreaciju u logički kolaps.

Čudovište od izmeta se ne uklapa u katoličku dogmu, nego u zezanje.

[Mark]

Čudovište od izmeta se ne uklapa u katoličku dogmu, nego u zezanje.

Ime cudovista iz Dogme - Golgothan - vodi poreklo od lokacije - breg Golgota, mesto gde je Isus razapet. Cudoviste je sacinjeno od izmeta ljudi razapetih na krst. Dakle, ima neke veze sa biblijskim pricama ...

http://monsterarchives.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mmm&action=display&thread=679

[Albedo 0]

Ja lično mislim da je Clerks II najozbiljniji Smitov film

Mozda se samo zaj**avas, ali ja sam ga shvatio bas tako. Kada se onomad pojavio, pomisio sam da bi mu to mogao biti poslednji film jer je u njemu prilicno efektno zatvorio jedan narativni krug svoje karijere.

ne zajebavam se, smatram Smita vrlo zanimljivim rediteljem

[Tex Murphy]

Čudovište od izmeta se ne uklapa u katoličku dogmu, nego u zezanje.

Ime cudovista iz Dogme - Golgothan - vodi poreklo od lokacije - breg Golgota, mesto gde je Isus razapet. Cudoviste je sacinjeno od izmeta ljudi razapetih na krst. Dakle, ima neke veze sa biblijskim pricama ...

http://monsterarchives.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=mmm&action=display&thread=679

Sve je to u redu, samo ja i dalje ne vidim spomenute "ozbiljne biblijske puteve".

[Tex Murphy]

Katolička dogma je oslikana u pravilu "kako je na Zemlji, tako je na Nebu", to jest Crkva je preuzela na sebe ne samo da interpretira i sprovodi nebeske zakone, nego i da donosi nove po potrebi. Koliko je to nelogično upravo se vidi u situaciji da ako je sve tako kako piše ljudi mogu da dovedu celu Kreaciju u logički kolaps.

Čekaj, moram da priznam da te nisam baš upratio. Ako je sve tako kako piše GDJE?

[Albedo 0]

Smit se sprda, to je jasno, Isusov predak je riba, njeni zaštitnici Bob i Džej, pali anđeli ona dvojica što ne znaju da glume i iritiraju, striptiz Selme Hajek je besmislena potreba svakog filma, sve u svemu, bar u Americi ima proroka sudnjeg dana koliko hoćeš, Smit se samo sprdao sa svima njima. Pa tamo 60% ljudi ide u crkvu svake nedjelje, dok samo 3% Srba to čini, a Pešićka se žali kako je Srbija puna vjerskih fanatika, šta je onda SAD...

[mac]

Čekaj, moram da priznam da te nisam baš upratio. Ako je sve tako kako piše GDJE?

Pa u Bibliji, valjda, otkud znam, nisam katolik.

[Tex Murphy]

Smit se sprda, to je jasno, Isusov predak je riba, njeni zaštitnici Bob i Džej, pali anđeli ona dvojica što ne znaju da glume i iritiraju, striptiz Selme Hajek je besmislena potreba svakog filma, sve u svemu, bar u Americi ima proroka sudnjeg dana koliko hoćeš, Smit se samo sprdao sa svima njima. Pa tamo 60% ljudi ide u crkvu svake nedjelje, dok samo 3% Srba to čini, a Pešićka se žali kako je Srbija puna vjerskih fanatika, šta je onda SAD...

Pa dobro, to je sve u redu - Smit se sprda sa dogmama itd. itd. itd., ali to samo po sebi ne garantuje nikakvu vrijednost njegovom filmu. Meni njegov "humor" naprosto nije ni smiješan ni inteligentan.

[Albedo 0]

dobro, i ne mora da bude smiješan, bar za mene

npr u Clerks II imaš onu scenu kada Džej imitira ples tipa iz Kad jaganjci utihnu, to je meni smiješno ali ne mora nikome da bude smiješno, poenta je upravo da tip iz Jaganjaca i ne postoji, on je u realnosti bliži propalitetima poput Džeja nego transseksualcu iz Jaganjaca.

To je moj dosadni način gledanja, zato je meni Smit zanimljiv. Povrh toga, svi likovi su mu nedorasla djeca, pa i to može da se analizira.

[Truba]

film je blago rečeno čudan

bad directing
definitivno


kao da ima 3 dijela...