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lilit

Putin je skroz objasnio, a verujem da mu je brk igrao kad su mu napisali ovaj deo: "It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord's blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal."
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Usul

I onda su svi americki mediji popizdeli i napisali 16000 clanaka gde kazu,"sta on tu nama soli pamet, Asad je kriv i ima da plati za svoja nedela protiv covecnosti".
God created Arrakis to train the faithful.

lilit

Što implicira da se Putin u stvari zalaže za bombardovanje Sirije? :lol:
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

varvarin

Kako da se čovek ne osmehne od uva do uva, kad pročita ovo:
http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Americki-odgovor-Vladimiru-Putinu.sr.html

"...На Капитол хилу конгресмени нису сакривали свој бес због Путинових порука. Председавајући Представничког дома Џон Бејнер, трећи у хијерархији америчких лидера, био је ,,увређен", уз напомену да су сада његове сумње у мотиве Путина и сиријског председника Башара ел Асада само ојачане.
Роберт Мендез, демократа из Њу Џерсија, председник Комитета за међународне односе Сената, изјавио је Си-Ен-Ену да му се после читања Путиновог коментара ,,скоро повраћало". ,,Он је човек који малтретира свој народ, хоће да истополне односе прогласи кривичним делом и нема поштовања за људска и грађанска права."
...,,Текст је увреда интелигенције сваког Американца", поручио је у свом ,,твиту" познати јастреб међу конгресменима сенатор Џон Мекејн."

xjump
Ali, posle ove  kolumne  ipak  ostaje poruka:  Gospodo, jebem vas izuzetne!
Bilo je vreme da to neko kaže.

Tex Murphy

Одговорио је и Алберт Брукс неким прилично дебилним писмом у Обамино име.
Genetski četnik

Novi smakosvjetovni blog!

Meho Krljic

Tunisian Girls Are Coming Home Pregnant After Performing 'Sexual Jihad' In Syria
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A member of the Free Syrian Army stands guard at a checkpoint they took over early on Monday after clashes with pro-government forces in Salqin city in Idlib October 22, 2012.

A number of girls from Tunisia have become pregnant after traveling to Syria to participate in "sexual jihad," according to Lotfi Bin Jeddo, Tunisia's Interior Minister.

The girls "are (sexually) swapped between 20, 30, and 100 rebels and they come back bearing the fruit of sexual contacts in the name of sexual jihad and we are silent doing nothing and standing idle," Al Arabiya reported he said during an address to the National Constituent Assembly.

The Telegraph has more:

"After the sexual liaisons they have there in the name of 'jihad al-nikah' - (sexual holy war, in Arabic) - they come home pregnant," Ben Jeddou told the MPs.

He did not elaborate on how many Tunisian women had returned to the country pregnant with the children of jihadist fighters.

Jihad al-nikah, permitting extramarital sexual relations with multiple partners, is considered by some hardline Sunni Muslim Salafists as a legitimate form of holy war.

Jeddo also said his ministry had taken a number of steps to stem the flow of Tunisians travelling to Syria.

Tunisia's former Mufti (the country's highest religious official) warned earlier this year that 13 Tunisian girls "were fooled" into travelling to Syria to offer sexual services for the rebels. He  described the practice as a form of "prostitution."

"For Jihad in Syria, they are now pushing girls to go there. 13 young girls have been sent for sexual jihad. What is this? This is called prostitution. It is moral educational corruption," Battikh said.


Ugly MF


Filaret

Gospode bože, užas.


Nego, intifada na naša vrata kuca. Ubistvo onog Litvanca je veoma opasni nagoveštaj ostvarenja nemačkog geopolitičkog plana. Kamenovanje kao ostvarnje prirodne težnje i prava na Iliridu. Sledi kuknjava u Banjaluci i popunjavanje hrvatske kifle, zatim istoćni deo ide Bosni i Trebinje Hrvatskoj kao prirodno zaleđe Dubrovnika, pa Vojvodina i td. Srbija će za kooperativu "dobiti" Podrinje, Skelane i obavezu dženaze u Srebrenici. Naravno, ako im mi dozvolimo. Nije za džabe ostavljeno ono crevo kod Goražda.


Čini mi se da je u Zvečanu puklo po budućnosti. I mislim da je, kao ni do sada, nećemo skontati. Budućnost.


Izvinjavam se, ali se bojim da i nije baš promašena tema.

mac

Velike sile ne dozvoljavaju prekrajanje granica na Balkanu. Kad bi dozvolile bar bismo se s Albancima lako dogovorili.

Filaret

Velike sile kažu da ne dozvoljavaju prekrajanje granica na Balkanu. Da je tako ne bi dozvolile secesiju Kosova i Metohije.


Джон Рейнольдс

Понекад чујем о том неком "договарању с Албанцима", па се запитам о чему ми то треба с њима да се договарамо? Шта је то на шта Албанци полажу право, па да се с њима ми договарамо?
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

mac

Polažu pravo na to da opstruišu državu Srbiju. A Amerika stalno ponavlja mantru o specijalnom slučaju Kosova. Ono što je specijalno je upravo prekrajanje granice.

Filaret

Quote from: mac on 23-09-2013, 01:49:06
Polažu pravo na to da opstruišu državu Srbiju.

Molim te, kako imaju pravo na to?

Ako su deo države Srbije na to nemaju pravo jer je to krivično delo.

Ako nisu deo države Srbije rade na štetu države Srbije.

Naravno, reći ćeš da imaju "pravo", ali da li je to pravo bezobalno? Seći šumu sa puškama? Dizati spomenike zlotvorima? Izigravati žrtvu u zemlji gde ne možeš da uštediš za bezbolnu starost?

Mislim da smo pogubili sposobnost da "razlikujemo dobro i zlo" (K. Šmit) i da treba da odbacimo lešinu zloglasne Jugoslavije da bismo povratili samospoznaju. Drugim rečima, ne smemo da cenimo "pravo" drugih na sve kao civilizacijsko dostignuće.

Meho Krljic

Quote from: D. on 23-09-2013, 01:26:56
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 22-09-2013, 09:06:58
Tunisian Girls Are Coming Home Pregnant After Performing 'Sexual Jihad' In Syria

Nešto je trulo u državi Džihadiji.

Uvek bilo, ali treba imati na umu da je ovo izveštaj Biznis insajdera, dakle, ne Al Džazire ili nekog izvora koji bi imao malčice kredibiliteta u domenu pisanja o ratu u Siriji. Nije isključeno da je ova vest sasvim istinita ali ni da je sasvim izmišljena.

Джон Рейнольдс

Quote from: mac on 23-09-2013, 01:49:06
Polažu pravo na to da opstruišu državu Srbiju.

Хајде да не улазимо дубље у анализу речи, али ипак морам... Полажу. Е па Србија ИМА право да прогласи делимичну окупацију територије и отежа им живот максимално не само опструкцијама на правном нивоу (што у данашњем дивљачком свету и одумирућој западној "цивилизацији" нема богзна какву тежину), него и на свакодневном. Србија на практичном нивоу може много ефикасније да опструише тзв. "Косово" него обрнуто.

А што се Америке тиче, поновићу. Трећи Рајх је '41 изгледао као много већа сила него САД данас и многи су тада "прихватали реалност".
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Meho Krljic

U oslobođenoj Libiji... kidnapovali su premijera:


Gunmen abduct Libyan prime minister in Tripoli



TRIPOLI, Libya (AP) — Libyan Prime Minister Ali Zidan was snatched by gunmen before dawn Thursday from a Tripoli hotel where he resides, the government said. The abduction appeared to be in retaliation for the U.S. special forces' raid over the weekend that seized a Libyan al-Qaida suspect from the streets of the capital.

Zidan's abduction reflected the weakness of Libya's government, which is virtually held hostage by powerful militias, many of which are made up of Islamic militants. Militants were angered by the U.S. capture of the suspected militant, known as Abu Anas al-Libi, and accused the government of allowing the raid to happen or even colluding in it.

Witnesses told The Associated Press that up to 150 gunmen drove up in pickup trucks and laid siege to the Corinthia Hotel before daylight Thursday. A large group of them entered the building, some stayed in the lobby while others headed to the 21st floor where Zidan was staying.

The gunmen scuffled with the prime minister's guards before they seized him and led him out at around 5.15 a.m., said the witnesses, speaking on condition of anonymity because they feared for their own safety. They said Zidan offered no resistance while he was being led away.

In a sign of Libya's chaos, Zidan's seizure was depicted by various sources as either an "arrest" or an abduction — reflecting how interwoven militias are in Libya's fragmented power structure.

Mohammed Shaaban, Corinthia's security manager, said the gunmen showed the hotel's management an arrest warrant they claimed had been issued by the public prosecutor.

The public prosecutor's office said it had issued no warrant for Zidan's arrest.

With the country's police and army in disarray, many militiamen are enlisted to serve in state security agencies, though their loyalty is more to their own commanders than to government officials and they have often intimidated or threatened officials. The militias are rooted in the brigades that fought in the uprising that toppled the late dictator Moammar Gadhafi in 2011, and are often referred to as "revolutionaries."

A statement on the government's official website said Zidan was taken to an "unknown location for unknown reasons" by a group believed to be "revolutionaries" from a security agency known as the Anti-Crime Committee. The Cabinet held an emergency meeting Thursday morning, headed by Zidan's deputy, Abdel-Salam al-Qadi.

Meanwhile, Abdel-Moneim al-Hour, an official with the Anti-Crime Committee, told the AP that Zidan had been "arrested" on accusations of harming state security and corruption.

A government official said gunmen broke into the luxury hotel in downtown Tripoli where Zidan lives and abducted him and two of his guards. The two guards were beaten but later released. The official spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation.

A grainy photograph widely posted Thursday on social networking sites purportedly shows Zidan being led from the Tripoli hotel by two young men, one of them bearded, holding him from both arms. The prime minister is frowning and looking disheveled. The photo also shows the arm of a third man resting on Zidan's left shoulder.

Hours after the abduction, the streets of Tripoli appeared normal, with the bustle of the morning rush hour traffic. Children went to school as usual and stores opened.

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki, traveling with Secretary of State John Kerry in Brunei, said Washington was "looking into these reports and we are in close touch with senior U.S. and Libyan officials on the ground."

The snatching of Zidan came hours after he met with the family of al-Libi, whose real name is Nazih Abdul-Hamed al-Ruqai — the al-Qaida suspect seized by the Americans in a bold raid in Tripoli on Saturday morning. U.S. officials said al-Libi was immediately taken out of the country and is now being held on a U.S. warship.

On Tuesday, Zidan said the Libyan government had requested that Washington allow al-Libi's family to establish contact with him. Zidan insisted that Libyan citizens should be tried in their homeland if they are accused of crimes, stressing that "Libya does not surrender its sons."

Al-Libi is alleged to be a senior al-Qaida member and is wanted by the United States in connection to the bombing of American embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998, with a $5 million bounty on his head.

Immediately after the raid, the Libyan government issued a statement saying it was carried out without its knowledge and asking Washington for "clarifications" about the operation.

"The U.S. was very helpful to Libya during the revolution and the relations should not be affected by an incident, even if it is a serious one," Zidan said at a press conference in Tripoli.

Meho Krljic

Eh... Iran izbačen sa mirovnih pregovora o Siriji jer nije hteo da podrži zajedničku izjavu o tome da mora da se formira prelazna vlada... Lepo je videti da najdemokratskije od svih demokratskih zemalja smatraju da se drugim zemljama odluka o tome ko će da vlada mora nametnuti spolja... Da ne pominjem drugi deo teksta u kome vele da Džefri Najs i ekipa imaju indicije da Asadov režim preduzima "large scale killing" nad, prezjumabli nedužnim civilima....


UN chief boots Iran out of Syria peace talks



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United Nations (United States) (AFP) - In an abrupt reversal, the United Nations barred Iran from this week's Syria peace conference after it refused to back calls for a transitional government to end the country's war.


The unprecedented diplomatic action averted a Syrian opposition boycott of the talks, which are scheduled start in the Swiss town of Montreux on Wednesday.
But a key bloc in the opposition coalition broke away in protest at the proposed talks with President Bashar al-Assad's representatives.
Indeed, besides the division between the opposition groups, the negotiations face major obstacles to ending a horrific civil war that has left well over 100,000 people dead.
In an interview with AFP published Monday, Assad ruled out a power-sharing deal. And new attacks spilled over into neighboring countries.
UN leader Ban Ki-moon withdrew his surprise invitation to Iran, a major Assad backer, less than 24 hours after he announced it.
Despite the offer to take part at the peace talks, Iran refused to back a communique adopted by an international meeting on Syria in June 2012 which called for a transitional government in Damascus.
The UN leader said Iran's Foreign Minister Javad Zarif had repeatedly assured him that he "understood and supported" the aim of the peace conference was to set up an interim government.
"The secretary general is deeply disappointed by Iranian public statements today that are not at all consistent with that stated commitment," said UN spokesman Martin Nesirky.
Because of Iran's position, Ban "has decided that the one-day Montreux gathering will proceed without Iran's participation," Nesirky added.
Ban was "dismayed" by the storm growing around the peace conference, the most intense diplomatic bid yet to end the near three-year war, the spokesman said earlier.
UN officials said Zarif had promised Ban a statement accepting the Geneva communique would be made.
But just before the UN announcement, Iran's envoy to the United Nations, Mohammad Khazaee, reaffirmed his government's stance.
"If the participation of Iran is conditioned to accept Geneva I communique, Iran will not participate in Geneva II," he said.
Ban had contacts with the US and Russian foreign ministers before excluding Iran, officials said.
The Syrian National Coalition, the main opposition, welcomed the barring of Iran and said it would go to the talks.
However, the biggest bloc in Syria's opposition-in-exile, the Syrian National Council, said it was quitting the coalition. It said its taking part in the talks would renege on its "commitments" not to enter negotiations until Assad left power.
In an AFP interview published Monday, Assad bluntly ruled out a power-sharing deal. He insisted the peace conference should focus on what he called his "war against terrorism".
Assad dismissed the opposition as having been created by foreign backers and said nothing could stop him from seeking a new term as president in an election he wants to hold in June.
Although the talks are scheduled to start in Montreux on Wednesday, the Syrian government and opposition will start talks in Geneva on Friday.
Car bombs kill 16
In a deadly display of the breadth of the conflict, a double suicide car bombing at a border post controlled by moderate Islamist rebels between Syria and Turkey killed at least 16 people on Monday, a monitoring group said.
And three former international prosecutors accused the Assad government of large-scale killing and torture in a report, reported by the Guardian newspaper and CNN television.
The report, based on the evidence of a military police defector and commissioned by Qatar, which backs Syrian rebels, said about 55,000 digital images of 11,000 dead detainees had been handed over.
The defector claimed the victims died in captivity before being taken to a military hospital to be photographed.
Some had no eyes while others showed signs of strangulation or electrocution, according to the 31-page document.
The report was written by Desmond de Silva, former chief prosecutor of the special court for Sierra Leone; Geoffrey Nice, the former lead prosecutor in the trial of former Yugoslavian president Slobodan Milosevic; and David Crane, who indicted Liberian president Charles Taylor.
De Silva told the Guardian that the evidence showed that Assad's forces had carried out "industrial-scale killing".
The United Nations says well over 100,000 people have been killed in the war and Ban has repeatedly said the brutality of the conflict means the international community must get behind a political solution.
But the Syrian opposition, the United States and European powers have all said Assad cannot be part of any future state.
A US official said Washington had received messages from members of the Damascus regime keen to find a peaceful solution to the conflict.
"We've gotten plenty of messages from people inside, they want a way out," the State Department official told reporters.
But the dispute over Iran and Assad's future is likely to spill over into the Geneva talks, diplomats said.
Russia, a key sponsor of the talks and an Assad ally, said Iran's absence would be a "unforgivable mistake."
The United States indicated however that Ban had no alternative but to withdraw Iran's invitation.

Tex Murphy

Genetski četnik

Novi smakosvjetovni blog!

Meho Krljic

Da malo rezurektujemo topik:



Islamic State: The Monster Western Intervention Created

QuoteBefore Britain gets involved in another intervention against  Sunni insurgents in Iraq, David Cameron should read the Koran. Verse 216, Chapter 2  says:  "You may hate a thing which is good for you, and you may love a thing which is bad for you. God knows, while you do not know."
Wise words for a British prime minister tempted to delete all those humiliating memories of Basra. The two knee-jerk responses to the sudden and complete collapse of Western "post-war" policy in Iraq, are: arming the Kurds and placing all chips on the new man, Haider al-Abadi.
Everyone loves him, but will he prove to be good for his lovers?  Some, maybe, but not all. Syrian historian Sami Moubayed is far from convinced. He wrote in the Middle East Eye: "Abadi is not a moderate -- far from it -- and nor is he less Islamic driven than Nuri al-Malki... Shiite Islam is the crux of his ideology. And he couldn't possibly have been named premier without the blessing of the Iranian government."
Abadi's backers should now be asking themselves uncomfortable questions, such as why the Islamic State has got as far as it has and why it may now be difficult to dislodge. Cameron is assuming a short air campaign, but why should it be as short lived as Nato's in Libya? Think instead of the parallel that Taliban in Afghanistan offer, where no matter how desperate the Pashtun become about the insurgency, they are more frightened of the corrupt tyranny of the ruler of Kabul. Better to have an honest tyrant rather than a corrupt one.
Armament, organization and ideology are all part of IS's rise. But the most important part of their arsenal has little to do with military prowess or religious fervor, although both help. It is their promise to carve a Sunni majority state out of the wreckage of two broken Shia dominated ones -- Syria and Iraq.
Post-Saddam Iraq is a sectarian construct in which power is allotted by ethno-sectarian weight. Sectarianism was the formula which Iraq's first US pro-consul Paul Bremmer used for the composition of Iraq's first transitional governments -- which included 13 Shias, five Sunnis, five Kurds one Turkmen and an Assyrian. Washington likes to portray itself as suffering from attention deficit disorder in the lands it has invaded.
But the US is not an inattentive parent. It indeed took the bombing in February 2006 of the Askariya mosque in Samarra, a sacred Shia shrine, to spark the civil war, but US special forces used Shia paramilitaries for their own ends, to deflect attacks from  Sunni insurgents on their troops.
Sectarianism, too, was the hallmark of Maliki's one-man rule. US funding of Sunni tribes against Al Qaida, its half hearted attempt get Maliki to absorb the Awakening into the Iraqi Army, or even their attempts today to re-awaken the Awakening, are exceptions to the rule, and come as afterthoughts.  The motive for the troop surge and for buying up the Sunni tribes was to pave the way for an exit of  US combat troops. It was never intended as a  sustained attempt to alter the post-Saddam balance of power.
The Sunni tribes who turned against Al Qaida have been betrayed and ignored. If you are promised political power, when you lay down your arms, you have a right to expect it or you will pick those arms up again. The political experiment ended for them when the non-sectarian Iraqiya Bloc was trashed. Maliki waged a full scale war on the very people he needed.
A former insider like Ali Khedery provides a bleak assessment of how rotten rule from Baghdad had become. Khedery, the longest serving US official in Iraq from 2003 to 2009, supported Maliki, but became convinced by 2010 that the US was making a mistake of historic proportions by continuing to back him.



"Maliki's one-man, one-Dawa-party Iraq looks a lot like Hussein's one-man, one-Baath Party Iraq....There is not much "democracy" left if one man and one party with close links to Iran control the judiciary, police, army, intelligence services, oil revenue, treasury and the central bank. Under these circumstances, renewed ethno-sectarian civil war in Iraq was not a possibility. It was a certainty."


For a full year, the Sunni protest in Anbar was peaceful, but Washington did not want to know. The consensus which had been formed in that benighted capital would not be broken until the headlines "Who Lost Iraq?" once again slapped them in the face.
It is little coincidence that IS flourishes in two sectarian states where Sunnis have been marginalized, or that in declaring a new  cross border state, the IS has recreated an entity with a Sunni majority -- which indeed used to dominate Iraq.
The two tasks that Abadi faces are both formidable ones.  The first is to form a genuinely non-sectarian government and governance. This means genuine power sharing -- in the key ministries.  The second is to face down all extremist militias, both IS and the Iranian-backed shia militias -- Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq for one. After 11 years of what must now be regarded as  continuous war and political turmoil, these are enormous tasks.
Nor could any potential Iraqi premier, least of all one of Abadi's pedigree, turn his back on his sponsor Iran. Indeed Abadi has already suggested that if the US did not intervene, Iran should. Abadi owes Iran for its decision to jettison Maliki. This may have been nothing more than realpolitik. Qassem Suleimani, commander of the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, must have realized  that Iran can not fight two wars at once.In Syria, the need to keep the Bekaa Valley open as Iran's umbilical cord to Hezbollah, trumped all other considerations for Tehran. The irony is that had they done the same with Bashar al Assad and appointed a deputy in his place, Syria might now be a different place.
Iran's deadliest enemy, Saudi Arabia, is panicking too. If the spark of revolution, which the Saudis have tried hard to stamp out,  can leapfrog  national borders (as it did from Tunisia, to Egypt, Yemen and Bahrain, and Syria) so, too, can the religious fanaticism of the Islamic State.
The combination of militancy and religious fervor is surely not a new one for the Arabian peninsula. They should only recall how Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab made his pact with Ibn Saud the ruler of Najd, and how Wahhabism has been integral to the Saudi kingdom ever since. What happens to Sunnis in Iraq, could also happen to Sunnis in Saudi. The Saudis supported Abadi as a panic measure, but Abadi will not insure the kingdom against the same forces emerging at home.
Another US and British intervention in Iraq may halt the IS advance, but it will not address the major task of dealing with the Sunni political grievance. However monstrous the Islamic State has become, it is a monster Western intervention has created.
Follow David Hearst on Twitter: www.twitter.com/davidahearst

Meho Krljic

Da ne ispadne da ISIS ubija samo američke novinare:



IS executes scores of Syrian troops in new atrocity



QuoteDamascus (AFP) - Islamic State jihadists boasted Thursday they had executed scores of Syrian troops after capturing a key air base, the latest in a string of abuses that have shocked the world.


News of the killings came as US President Barack Obama weighed air strikes on IS positions in Syria and edged closer to greenlighting a mission to aid Shiite Turkmen trapped in an Iraqi town besieged by the jihadists.
It also came as rival Islamist rebels led by Al-Qaeda affiliate Al-Nusra Front seized 43 UN peacekeepers on the Golan Heights, part of a mission that has monitored an armistice between Syrian and Israeli troops on the strategic plateau for decades.
IS posted grisly video footage on the Internet of scores of bodies heaped in the desert they boasted were those of Syrian soldiers they captured and executed following its seizure of Tabqa air base.
The jihadists have repeatedly posted gruesome videos, which have appalled international opinion but served as a propaganda tool to recruit volunteers.
Britain-based monitoring group the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said that IS had executed at least 160 soldiers, among some 500 who had made a desperate bid to escape to government-held territory after their defeat last Sunday.
The footage posted by IS showed a close-up of some 20 bodies, but then panned out to show scores more.


Other shots showed men barefoot and dressed only in their underwear walking in line with their hands on their head in surrender, escorted by jihadist gunmen.
One held up the black flag of the jihadists. Others chanted: "Islamic State forever."
Tabqa was the last position in Raqa province to fall to the jihadists, who now control a vast swathe of northeastern Syria and Iraq.
A UN-mandated probe has charged that public executions, amputations, lashings and mock crucifixions have become a regular fixture in jihadist-controlled areas of Syria.
Obama was to meet with top national security aides at 2000 GMT to decide whether to expand US air strikes launched against IS in Iraq earlier this month to its strongholds in Syria.
The Syrian government launched air strikes of its own on Thursday, killing six IS leaders, the Observatory said, but Washington has so far baulked at cooperating with Damascus against the group.


- UN peacekeepers held -
Rival jihadists of Al-Nusra Front, backed by other rebels, detained 43 Fijian peacekeepers on the Golan on Thursday, a day after their capture of the sole crossing over the UN-patrolled armistice line to the Israeli-occupied sector of the plateau.
"Forty-three peacekeepers from the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force were detained early this morning by an armed group in the vicinity of Quneitra," a UN statement said.
The 43 peacekeepers from Fiji were forced to surrender their weapons and taken hostage, but 81 Filipino blue helmets "held their ground" and refused to disarm, the Filipino defence department said.
It said the Filipino peacekeepers were being surrounded by the gunmen.
The UN Security Council condemned the action and demanded the "unconditional and immediate release" of the peacekeepers, a statement said.
Peacekeepers were detained twice last year and released safely.
But the Philippines has said it will repatriate its 331-strong contingent, for security reasons, mirroring previous moves by Australia, Croatia and Japan.
Washington has also been weighing both aid drops and air strikes in Iraq to help residents of a Shiite Turkmen town besieged by the jihadists since early June, US officials said on Wednesday.
Inhabitants of the Salaheddin province town of Amerli, north of Baghdad, face danger both because of their faith, which jihadists consider heresy, and their resistance against the militants,
"It could be a humanitarian operation. It could be a military operation. It could be both," said a US defence official on condition of anonymity.
Iraq is preparing its own effort, massing forces north and south of the town and carrying out air strikes against the jihadist militants besieging it.
There is "no possibility of evacuating them so far", Eliana Nabaa, spokeswoman for the UN mission in Iraq, said of Amerli residents.
UN Iraq envoy Nickolay Mladenov has called for an urgent effort to help Amerli, saying residents face a "possible massacre" if the town is overrun.

Meho Krljic

Kako izgleda obrazovni kurikulum u teritorijama koje kontroliše Islamistička Država? Ovako:


Frontline Isis: How the Islamic State is Brainwashing Children with Stone Age School Curriculum

Ever since the Islamic State (previously known as IS) took control of Raqqa, the city has become the sort of primitive enclave last seen in the Middle Ages – or, more accurately, the Stone Age.
IS are imposing arbitrary laws on the people of the city, claiming that the things we used to take for granted are not permissible in Islam. Anyone who opposes gets arrested. And, crucially, IS is now peddling its barbaric doctrine through the schools and universities, the lifeblood of Raqqa's culture.
Many secondary school students are forced to travel to the cities controlled by the Syrian regime, while schoolteachers are now obliged to undergo a week-long course in legitimacy; if they don't attend, they can't teach. Many core subjects are deemed incompatible with the law of God, such as philosophy, science, geography, history, even leisure subjects such as art and sports.
A raft of new subjects have been established by the regime, and the schools are ordered to introduce them via written communiques. I recently received one such communique from a teacher friend in Raqqa. It begins by saying:
The following subjects will be removed from the school curriculum permanently: musical art education, national education, social studies history, fine art education, sports, philosophical and social issue, Islamic religious education and Christian education. Compensatory subjects will be added from the directorate of the curriculum in the Islamic State .
  It adds that teachers must:
Remove reference to the Syrian Arab Republic wherever found and replaced with the Islamic state .
Remove reference to the Ministry of Education and replace it with the Ministry of Education "of the organization".
Blur all images that do not agree with the Islamic law.
Delete the Syrian Arab anthem wherever it is found .
Not teach the concept of patriotism or nationalism, but of belonging to Islam and its people and the innocence of polytheism and its people, and that the Muslim countries are those that administer the law of God .
Delete examples of the Arabic language which are not inconsistent with law or policy of the Islamic State .
Replace the word home, homeland, Syria or national, wherever found, with an appropriate reference (Islamic state, a Muslim country, an Islamic state, the jurisdiction of Sham etc)
Delete any example in mathematics that refers the benefits of usury, democracy or election .
Delete from science everything to do with the theory of creation, and restore all creation to Almighty God.
Alert students that the laws of physics and chemistry are the laws of God in creation .
It concludes by saying that "this circular is binding" and reminds recipients that "of course, it is not permissible for male teachers to teach female students, or for female teachers teach male students."
Rewriting history - and geography, and physics, and chemistry...
In Raqqa the deletion of several teaching subjects is considered a particularly despicable action by Isis; the removal of history, philosophy, geography, chemistry and Arabic amounts to a complete distortion of the minds of the students, and will negatively affect the level of every pupil. The Syrian regime will not accept certificates issues by schools in Raqqa, so pupils have no way of progressing.
I spoke to a 28-year-old teacher from Raqqa called Samar Mohammed [his name is a pseudonym] who told me that, when it comes to schools, the main aim of IS is to brainwash students with a bombardment of religious fanaticism, and push them towards extremism by forcing them to read books like Aljhad-Hadith-Sharia, which preaches a warped and vicious version of Islam.
The children are blitzed with religious fallacies and this, together with their natural curiosity towards IS's beheading of those it calls infidels, is very serious. The books and curriculum being pushed in schools could turn the entire population of Raqqa's schools into a new generation of extremists. IS will brainwash them one way or another, while we stand by, powerless to stop them.
IS is fighting to return Raqqa to the stone age – and, unless the international community does something, they will take thousands of children with them.
Zaid Al Fares is a photojournalist who moved from Raqqa, his home city, to Turkey following the Isis takeover. You can find him on Twitter here.

дејан

мехо, бесмислено ми је да мислећи човек обраћа пажњу на то шта јавља западна штампа/медији, ако није из угла анализирања тема и начина спиновања у циљу постизања довољно снажног 'незадовољства' јавности са циљем изазивања НАТО војне акције - у овом случају бомбардовања сирије.
а и сигуран сам да ће гађати баш тај исис...или можда нека бомба случајно падне у асадово двориште...не сме се заборавити они(! НАТО) су наоружали тај 'народноослободилачки отпор' 'асадовој гвозденој диктатури', зар не?

шта ће се десити ако и када буду стварно нападнути или се нека од чланица нађе у директном рату на својој територији?
шта ће тад медији причати и новине писати ако се овако блате и деградирају до испод нивоа животиња будуће легитимне мете великог капитала и најновије расподеле стратешких ресурса?!
све ово превише личи на немачку тридесетих година
...barcode never lies
FLA

Джон Рейнольдс

Империја Зла је уназад неколико деценија, а од совјетске интервенције у Авганистану сасвим отворено, производила те тзв. "исламске фанатике" и то увек са својим партнерима из једне од најцрњих диктатура на свету... не, није Северна Кореја него Саудијска Арабија. А препознају се лако, увек су у питању сунити који и поред изразите антиамеричке и антијеврејске реторике највише нападају локално становништво и власти тзв. "одметнутих држава", док су напади на америчке циљеве спорадични а на израелске скоро па непостојећи. Искрено, и не читам те вести о ИСИС и тзв. Ал-каиди, осим кад их рокају Курди и Асад. Све остало су глупости, мазање очију.
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε


дејан


хаха вероватно мислиш на ове снежно беле тојоте у сред пустиње - а где су тојоте ту су и најке
(једна од спектакуларнијих представа 'живота и прикљученија у пустињи' са пуцањем и певањем)
...barcode never lies
FLA

Meho Krljic

Sve, sve, al ne udarajte na Putina:


Chechen leader, Putin pal vows to crush ISIS after threat against Russia



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The latest recipients of an Islamic State threat are responding in kind, with Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov vowing that "these bastards" will be "destroyed."
Kadyrov, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, went on an Instagram rant after Islamic State posted a video threatening Putin over his support for Syria's Bashar al-Assad and vowing to liberate Chechnya. The Muslim strongman, who has fought Islamic militants in his backyard for years, seemed to take special umbrage at a threat aimed at his patron in Moscow.
"I state with full responsibility that the one who had the idea to express a threat to Russia and say the name of the president of the country Vladimir Putin, will be destroyed, where he did it," Kadyrov seethed. "I emphasize that they finish their days under the hot sun in Syria and Iraq, and in the first instant of death meet their eternal flames of Hell. Allahu Akbar!"


The video that incensed Kadyrov showed Islamic State fighters cavorting around Russian fighter planes sent to Assad by the Kremlin but seized when Islamic State overran Syria's Tabqa airport.
In the video, which was posted and translated by Middle East Media Research Institute, a fighter refers to Kadyrov as a Putin puppet. Kadyrov responded on Instagram by saying "these bastards have no relation to Islam," and vowing if they try to threaten Russia or Chechnya "you will be destroyed."
"I want to remind everyone who is planning something against our country, that Russia has worthy sons, ready to fulfill any order, wring the neck of any enemy in his own lair, wherever he may be," Kadyrov wrote. "And we find ourselves with happiness ridding the world of these scum."
The threat against Russia and Chechnya came as an Israel-based intelligence news service claimed that the Saudi, British and Australian governments have "credible information" that Islamic State and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula have plans to launch a coordinated attack around the time of the Sept. 11 anniversary.
DEBKAfile reported that unnamed "counterterrorism sources" say the groups are preparing to hit in the Middle East and somewhere in western Europe. According to the site, the militants are holding off on planning an attack on the U.S. for now. ISIS operates in Iraq and Syria, while AQAP is based in Yemen.
The report comes after a second American journalist was executed by the Islamic State.
So far, U.S. officials have said they are not aware of any plots against the U.S. at this stage, though they have the potential to target the U.S. and Europe using western passport holders.
Matt Olsen, outgoing director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said Wednesday there is no indication of any Islamic State cells in the U.S., "full stop."
But he said the group poses a "multi-faceted threat to the United States."

дејан

...barcode never lies
FLA

Ugly MF

hmmm..Ako se ikada oformi takva drzava i krene da se siri, kolko se secam, PROTIV nje bi bilo da prestane da se siri...Znaci ili ce se ona prosiriti po citavom svetu i SVI ce biti muzlimani, ili ...ovo drugo...
El' negde gresim?!

Meho Krljic

Ni bosanski gastarbajteri u Austriji nisu ono što su bili...  :(



ISIS: Teen Girls That Ran Away To Join The Islamic State Now Pregnant                                                      




QuoteTeen girls that fled Austria to join ISIS are now reportedly pregnant. Samra Kesinovic, 16, and Sabina Seimovic, 15, posted to their social media accounts that they had left Europe and are now living in Syria. Kesinovic was thought to have been killed in during Islamic State combat until reports emerged earlier this week that she was pregnant.
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The European teen girls married a pair of ISIS Chechen fighters after arriving in Syria, Central European News reports. Samra Kesinovic and Sasbina Seimovic were photographed holding AK-47s after joining the Islamic State group. After showcasing their support for ISIS on social media, the Austrian media dubbed the pair of teenage girls as the "new face of jihad."
Both Interpol and the Austrian police are continuing to search for the teen girls who ran away from home to join ISIS. The law enforcement agencies are reportedly monitoring the movements of the girls via their WhatsApp and Facebook accounts. The Austrian teens have also reportedly been issued new names that feature the add-on phrase "umm" which is Arabic for mother.
In spite of the multitude of social media posts, Austrian officials maintain that ISIS militants would have total control over the teen girls and would never allow them to use their social media accounts without supervision. "We have no independent confirmation that either of them are dead or alive, or that either of them are pregnant, although we suspect both are married. At the moment investigations are ongoing," a representative from the Austrian police told the media.

Law enforcement officials also feel that ISIS militants are using both Samra Kesinovic and Sasbina Seimovic to recruit other young women to join the Islamic State. Another pair of teen girls was recently caught attempting to sneak out of Austria for the purpose of joining the ISIS jihad. The mother of a third girl who had also planned to join them discovered her daughter's packed luggage and called police after learning of the plan hatched by the girls. The parents of the two girls who did attempt to leave the country are believed to be from Iraq.
"If we can catch them before the leave, we have the chance to work with their parents and other institutions to bring the youngsters out of the sphere of influence that promoted them to act in this way in the first place," Austrian Interior Ministry spokesman Alexander Marakovits said.
Government leaders proposed legislation on Monday, which stated that citizens who return to the country be forced to withdraw citizenship if they are known to be fighting with ISIS. In Vienna, a government organization has been created for the purpose of "de-radicalizing" Muslim youth who might be coaxed to follow the ISIS jihad.
What do you think about the teen girls who ran away to join ISIS being pregnant?


Джон Рейнольдс

"Ма нема везе", казаће прозападњаци, "али ирачки народ се толико напатио под диктатором Садамом, још мало па ће да им крене, јер сад имају слободу, демократију, тржиште, итд" :

America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Meho Krljic

Zapravo sad imaju i glavnu stvar od koje ih je Sadam branio - dominaciju proiranske struje i kontrolu glavne političke snage strejt iz Teherana. Otprilike kao da su Ameri ovde uspeli da postave vlast koja instrukcije prima iz Tirane, pa još gore jer su Irak i Iran ipak onoliko ratovali osamdesetih.

varvarin

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/tema.php?yyyy=2015&mm=02&nav_id=955135


ID: Ovako se ponaša prava žena džihadiste                        


  Islamska država je objavila manfest kojim se objašnjava uloga žena u džihadističkoj grupi, navodeći da je "legitimno" da devetogodišnje devojčice budu udate za borce i prihvate svoje uloge žena, majki i domaćica...

mac

http://phasezero.gawker.com/an-intelligence-vet-explains-isis-yemen-and-the-dick-1699407909

Bivši obaveštajac objašnjava dosta toga u vezi sa ISIL-om, Irakom, i svime ostalim biskoistočnim. Na kraju intervjua je odgovor na pitanje "What should we do? Precisely". Ako ga neko posluša živećemo u interesantnijim vremenima. Dobra mu je fora kad spomene World War Z u istom pasusu sa Izraelom. Posle intervjua je odgovarao na pitanja posetilaca, ima i tu šta da se pročita.

Ono što je meni provejavalo čitajući tekst je da je on samo glasnik nečega turbulentnog na obzorju, što je već drugde odlučeno i isplanirano.

varvarin

http://www.b92.net/zivot/vesti.php?yyyy=2015&mm=04&dd=23&nav_id=983933


Saudijska Arabija dobija prvi "halal seks šop"
...
Vlasnik tvrdi da njihovi proizvodi "pružaju dublje značenje seksualnosti, senzulnosti, pa čak i spiritualnosti". :) 

Meho Krljic

Did George W. Bush Create ISIS?

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The exchange started like this: at the end of Jeb Bush's town-hall meeting in Reno, Nevada, on Wednesday, a college student named Ivy Ziedrich stood up and said that she had heard Bush blame the growth of ISIS on President Obama, in particular on his decision to withdraw American troops from Iraq in 2011. The origins of ISIS, Ziedrich said, lay in the decision by Bush's brother, in 2003, to disband the Iraqi Army following the toppling of Saddam Hussein's government.

"It was when thirty thousand individuals who were part of the Iraqi military were forced out—they had no employment, they had no income, and they were left with access to all of the same arms and weapons.... Your brother created ISIS,'' she said.
"All right,'' Bush said. "Is that a question?"

"You don't need to be pedantic to me, sir," she said.

"Pedantic? Wow," Bush said.

Ziedrich finally came forth with her query: "Why are you saying that ISIS was created by us not having a presence in the Middle East when it's pointless wars, where we send young American men to die for the idea of American exceptionalism? Why are you spouting nationalist rhetoric to get us involved in more wars?"

Jeb replied by repeating his earlier criticism of President Obama: that Iraq had been stable until American troops had departed. "When we left Iraq, security had been arranged," Bush said. The removal of American troops had created a security vacuum that ISIS exploited. "The result was the opposite occurred. Immediately, that void was filled."

"Your brother created ISIS" is the kind of sound bite that grabs our attention, because it's obviously false yet oddly rings true. Bush didn't like it: he offered a retort and then left the stage. Meanwhile, Ziedrich had started a conversation that rippled across Twitter, Facebook, and any number of American dinner tables. Who is actually right?

Here is what happened: In 2003, the U.S. military, on orders of President Bush, invaded Iraq, and nineteen days later threw out Hussein's government. A few days after that, President Bush or someone in his Administration decreed the dissolution of the Iraqi Army. This decision didn't throw "thirty thousand individuals" out of a job, as Ziedrich said—the number was closer to ten times that. Overnight, at least two hundred and fifty thousand Iraqi men—armed, angry, and with military training—were suddenly humiliated and out of work.

This was probably the single most catastrophic decision of the American venture in Iraq. In a stroke, the Administration helped enable the creation of the Iraqi insurgency. Bush Administration officials involved in the decision—like Paul Bremer and Walter Slocombe—argued that they were effectively ratifying the reality that the Iraqi Army had already disintegrated.

This was manifestly not true. I talked to American military commanders who told me that leaders of entire Iraqi divisions (a division has roughly ten thousand troops) had come to them for instructions and expressed a willingness to coöperate. In fact, many American commanders argued vehemently at the time that the Iraqi military should be kept intact—that disbanding it would turn too many angry young men against the United States. But the Bush White House went ahead.

Many of those suddenly unemployed Iraqi soldiers took up arms against the United States. We'll never know for sure how many Iraqis would have stayed in the Iraqi Army—and stayed peaceful—had it remained intact. But the evidence is overwhelming that former Iraqi soldiers formed the foundation of the insurgency.

On this point, although she understated the numbers, Ziedrich was exactly right. But how did the dissolution of the Iraqi Army lead to the creation of ISIS?

During the course of the war, Al Qaeda in Iraq grew to be the most powerful wing of the insurgency, as well as the most violent and the most psychotic. They drove truck bombs into mosques and weddings and beheaded their prisoners. But, by the time the last American soldiers had departed, in 2011, the Islamic State of Iraq, as it was then calling itself, was in a state of near-total defeat. The combination of the Iraqi-led "awakening," along with persistent American pressure, had decimated the group and pushed them into a handful of enclaves.

Indeed, by 2011 the situation in Iraq—as former Governor Bush said—was relatively stable. "Relatively" is the key word here. Iraq was still a violent place, but nowhere near as violent as it had been. The Iraqi government was being run by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, a fervent Al Qaeda foe and ostensible American ally.

But, as the last Americans left Iraq, there came the great uprising in Syria that pitted the country's vast Sunni majority against the ruthless regime of Bashar al-Assad. Syria quickly dissolved into anarchy. Desperate and seeing an opportunity, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq, dispatched a handful of soldiers to Syria, where, in a matter of months, they had gathered an army of followers and had begun attacking the Assad regime. Suddenly, Baghdadi's group—which had been staggering toward the grave only months before—was regaining strength. In 2013, the I.S.I. became the Islamic State of Iraq in Syria. ISIS was born.
Finally, in June, 2014, legions of ISIS fighters swept out of Syria and grabbed huge swathes of northern and western Iraq. That prompted President Obama to order American troops to help save the Iraqi Army—indeed, to help save Iraq itself—and American pilots to bomb ISIS's positions. Baghdadi, in proclaiming himself the caliph of the Islamic State, had assembled around himself a group of leaders, many of whom were once soldiers in Saddam Hussein's Iraqi Army.

In this sense, Ziedrich is right again, at least notionally: some of the men fighting in ISIS were put out of work by the American occupiers in 2003. Still, it's not clear—and it will never be clear—how many of these Iraqis might have remained peaceful had the Americans kept the Iraqi Army intact. One of the Iraqis closest to Baghdadi was Ibrahim Izzat al-Douri, a senior official in Saddam's government until 2003. (Douri was reported killed last month—it's still not clear if he was or not.) It's hard to imagine that Douri—or any other hardcore member of Saddam's Baath Party—would have ever willingly taken part in an American occupation, whether he had a job or not. So, in this sense, Ziedrich is overstating the case. While it's true that George W. Bush took actions that helped enable the creation of the Iraqi insurgency, and that some leaders of the insurgency formed ISIS, it's not true that he "created" ISIS. And there's a good argument to be made that an insurgency would have formed following the invasion of Iraq even if President Bush had kept the Iraqi Army together. He just helped to make the insurgency bigger.

But let's get to Governor Bush's assertion—that Iraq went down the tubes because of President Obama's decision to pull out all American forces, and that Obama could easily have left behind a residual force that would have kept the peace.

I took up this issue last year in a Profile of Maliki, the Iraqi leader we left in place. Maliki didn't really want any Americans to stay in Iraq, and Obama didn't, either. But—and this is a crucial point—it seems possible that, if Obama had pushed Maliki harder, the United States could have retained a small force of soldiers there in noncombat roles. More than a few Americans and Iraqis told me this. They blame Obama for not trying harder. "You just had this policy vacuum and this apathy," Michael Barbero, the commander of American forces in Iraq in 2011, told me, describing the Obama White House.

So, on this, Governor Bush isn't entirely accurate, but makes a good point: the Obama Administration might have been able to keep some forces in Iraq if it had really tried.

And what if the Americans had stayed? Could a small force of American soldiers have prevented Iraq from sliding back into chaos, as Governor Bush claims? Americans like Barbero—and a number of Iraqis, as well—argue that the mere presence of a small number of American troops, not in combat roles, could have made a crucial difference. The idea here is that after the American invasion, which destroyed the Iraqi state, the Iraqi political system was not stable enough to act without an honest broker to negotiate with its many factions, which is the role that the Americans had played.

This much is clear: after 2011, with no Americans on the ground, Maliki was free to indulge his worst sectarian impulses, and he rapidly and ruthlessly repressed Iraq's Sunni minority, imprisoning thousands of young men on no charges, thereby radicalizing the Sunnis who weren't in prison. When, in June, 2014, ISIS came rolling in, anything seemed better than Maliki to many of Iraq's Sunnis.

Could all that have been prevented? It's impossible to know, of course, although President Obama, by sending American forces back to Iraq, seems at least implicitly to think so. Historians—along with Governor Bush and Ivy Ziedrich—will be arguing about the question for a long time.


mac


Anomander Rejk

Zapadno razjebavanje stabilnih država, kao i obično, daje prosto genijalne rezultate:
http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/libija-islamska-drzava-osvojila-sirt-i-nuklearnu-elektranu/150610025
Tajno pišem zbirke po kućama...

Meho Krljic

Islamic State beheads female civilians for first time in Syria - monitor



QuoteThe hardline Islamic State group has beheaded two women in, the first time it has decapitated female civilians, the founder of a group monitoring the war said on Tuesday.

The beheadings took place in the eastern Deir al-Zor province this week said Rami Abdulrahman, head of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which tracks the conflict using sources on the ground.

One of the women was beheaded along with her husband in Deir al-Zor city. In al-Mayadeen city to the south east, the group beheaded another woman and her husband. All of them were accused of sorcery, the monitor said.

Islamic State has beheaded local and foreign men in Syria, including enemy combatants, aid workers and journalists as well as people it has deemed as violating its hardline interpretation of Islamic law.

Several of the group's female captives have been stoned to death previously after being accused of adultery and other offences. This is the first time it was reported to have beheaded female civilians.

Islamic State also "crucified" five men in al-Mayadeen for eating during daylight hours of the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, the Observatory said.

They were hung up by their limbs on the city wall and children were encouraged to mock them as they suffered, it added.

Activists say Islamic State uses such public punishments in areas where it is present to control the local population through coercion and fear.


Albedo 0

sejm ol, sejm ol...

zaboravili su nulti korak, kad su uopšte pomislili da dođu na tuđi kontinent

дејан

'ел теби мехо промиче самоапологетски тон овог чланка?! мисим, јеботе, не да су је саградили него су је осмислили(!!!!), и не да су то урадили ове деценије већ кад су кренули дорганизују талибане у авганистану*...јбт. о чему ми овде причамо?! ел свет, по старом српском обичају, постоји само 15 минута уназад ил' се можда сећамо ичег ранијег...'ел ствари имају некакав корен који је уредно историјски па чак (врло често у 20./21. веку) и медијски забележен ил' ћемо да допустимо багри да нам кроз овакве тумаче кроји перцепцију?!
брате, од свих свецких срања, највише мризим ту англосаксонску апологетику самоневиности којом насисавају цео свет већ неколико деценија, што је кулминирало у последњих 25 година. неке злочине бих им и опростио наиме битлса и остале поп културе, ал онда се појави неки харт локер само да ме подсети да све то треба у мајчину, на време, пре него што кренемо да их дочекујемо са заставама ко у загребу 41.


*eдит - о лоренсуодарабије да не говоримо...припадне ми мука кад помислим
...barcode never lies
FLA

Meho Krljic

Pa, da, da, kako i Bata gore reče, a nulti korak, rođaci?

Ugly MF

...a de bese taj nulti korak?

Albedo 0

pa negdje krajem 19. vijeka, ako me sjećanje služi, to jest u zadnjih stotinjak godina Britanci su upadali u Avganistan 5 puta, što je zajedno sa Sovjetima 6 okupacija Avganistana u nešto više od sto godina

za to vrijeme Srbi dva puta okupirani, pa uporedite ludilo

još 4 puta i bombaši samoubice bi se zvale Radojko

scallop

A Aleksandar Makedonski?
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Albedo 0

ne bih ja njega miješao s Britancima, mislim, s njima bi se i Adolf uprljao


Anomander Rejk

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