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Truman

Pa ne znam ja kakav je tvoj privatan život. ;) A na osnovu toga što pišeš zaključio sam da si u prošlosti birala takve.
Ja da valjam ne bih bio ovde.

Biki

Quote from: D. on 14-10-2012, 20:27:30
QuoteOdvratan tekst.

moram da se slozim sa D , tekst je  bljakpink

Josephine

Pa, svi smo eksperimentisali dok nismo dovoljno upoznali sebe da bismo znali da li smo spremni za kompromise ili ne. :) Valjda.

Джон Рейнольдс

Quote from: D. on 14-10-2012, 19:56:44
To o Animusu i Animi ne tumači se baš tako. Ne radi se o klasičnoj "muškoj" i "ženskoj" podeli. Zato sam te i pitala da mi obrazložiš. "Muški" i "ženski" "atributi" su više pridodati da je opiše priroda Animusa i Anime.

Neupućeni to obično tumače kao "muškobanjasta je" ili "ženski petko". Uopšte se ne radi o tome.

E, sada kada smo to razjasnili, mekušac je za mene osoba muškog pola koja očekuje da u odnosima sa spoljnim svetom (karijera, javnost) bude bolji od mene, ima veću platu, bude prodorniji, sposobniji, poštovaniji, pametniji; a od mene očekuje da mu budem mama, da podilazim njegovom egu, pravim se glupkasta, trepćem i gajim mu decu. Ili muškarac koji jednostavno ne može da prihvati dualnost moje prirode.

xrofl "Уопште се не ради о томе."  xrofl Дакле, "разјашњење" је по обичају врхунско.

Али лепо је што теорија о већини мекушаца пада у воду, јер све се врти око личног. :roll: Дакле, огромна већина мушкараца по овој "логици" нису мекушци, јер та огромна већина са Д. не би ништа лично пожелела, понајмање да им буде мама, гаји децу, итд итд итд
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

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mac

Quote from: D. on 14-10-2012, 20:25:16
ne možeš da imaš ono što želiš ako to isto ne pružiš drugima. to je jednostavna istina svakog odnosa.

Da li više želiš ono što imaš ili ono što nemaš?

Josephine

to saznaš tek kada odlučuš šta želiš.

ovo mi je pitanje za neodlučne. :)

Karl Rosman

Quote from: mac on 14-10-2012, 21:42:08
Quote from: D. on 14-10-2012, 20:25:16
ne možeš da imaš ono što želiš ako to isto ne pružiš drugima. to je jednostavna istina svakog odnosa.

Da li više želiš ono što imaš ili ono što nemaš?

Valjda, ono sto nemas. Zasto bi neko zeleo ono sto ima?
"On really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion."
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won over it"

mac

I ja tako mislim, i mislio sam da svi tako misle, ali eto prevario sam se.

Karl Rosman

Prevario si i mene! Mislio sam da mislis... da znas...  xrofl
"On really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion."
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won over it"

Biki

Ko je reko ja sam reko ja  xrotaeye

lilit

zločesti karl.
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Karl Rosman

 Salsa time...  ;)
"On really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion."
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won over it"

Josephine

čini mi se da je često veoma bitno da želiš ono što imaš. da se ne ispostavi kasnije da želiš ono što si nekada imao.  8)

Stipan



Quote from: D. on 14-10-2012, 20:35:54
Da ih biram, sada bi jedan bio pored mene, zar ne?

Ne. Pored tebe bi bio onaj koji je tebe izabrao, a ne onaj koga si ti izabrala.

džin tonik

manje price vise djela.

Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

Barbarin

Prvo sam pročitao dole Big Penis for Women  :cry:
Jeremy Clarkson:
"After an overnight flight back to London, I find myself wondering once again if babies should travel with the baggage"

tomat

Quote from: Barbarin on 26-10-2012, 00:10:16
Prvo sam pročitao dole Big Penis for Women  :cry:

isto  :D
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded.

Josephine

Quote
Ubistvo iz časti




Posted: 29 Oct 2012 01:35 AM PDT

Možda ste čuli za slučaj Amande Tod, mlade devojke koja je početkom oktobra ove godine, u 15toj godini života izvršila samoubistvo. Taj slučaj je inspirisao mnoge blog-postove, članke u novinama, segmente vesti, međutim oni su se obično fokusirali na vršnjačko nasilje. Zato me je prijatno iznenadio youtube snimak izvesnog The Concealed Weapon, koji se, u kratkom snimku, pored vršnjačkog maltretiranja osvrće i na udeo seksizma u širem društvu u ovoj tragediji. Pogledajte snimak, ili pročitajte prevod transkripta (može i jedno i drugo).

   

Kao što neki od vas znaju, 10tog oktobra 2012, 15togodišnja žena Amanda Tod izvršila je samoubistvo nakon dve godine konstantnog vršnjačkog maltretiranja i posramljivanja zbog seksualnosti (slut-shaming - bukvalno, posramljivanje kurve). To se desilo zato što ovo društvo uvek krivi žene za ono što muškarci izaberu da im urade, a naročito ako su te žene mlade, jer je ovo društvo izuzetno seksističko i ejdžističko.


Mlada žena pošalje svoju sexy fotografiju muškarcu, ponekad uz pristanak, a ponekad, kao u ovom slučaju, ona je na to prinuđena. Ta fotografija bi trebalo da bude privatna. Zatim on iskoristi tu fotografiju da je ucenjuje. Objavi fotografiju, bilo tako što je postavi online, bilo tako što je pošalje prijateljima. U društvu koje nije seksističko i ejdžističko svačija mržnja bi bila usmerena na kretena koji je objavio fotografiju bez njenog pristanka. Niko ne bi mrzeo ženu na forografiji. Ona nije ništa zgrešila.
Činjenica da je imao mogućnost da je povredi ne znači da je imao prava na to, i ne znači da je to njena krivica. Ali ovo društvo nije prevazišlo ideju ubistva iz časti, koje predstavlja seksističko i ejdžističko uverenje da mlade žene koje urade nešto 'kurvasto' zaslužuju da umru. Pošto više nije legalno da ubijamo mlade žene zato što su 'nečiste', društvo to nadoknađuje posramljujući ih zbog njihove seksualnosti sve dok one same sebi ne oduzmu život. Društvo još uvek veruje da je ženina obaveza da u potpunosti uništi sve mogućnosti da je muškarac povredi, u suprotnom, sama je kriva.
Ima i dobrih vesti, ljudi su joj [Amandi Tod] pružili podršku, ali to ne popravlja situaciju previše, jer su se javili tek nakon što je umrla. Nakon što neko izvrši samoubistvo zbog vršnjačkog maltretiranja ljudi pričaju o tome kako žele da zaustave maltretiranja, ali pre toga nikog nije briga.

Posramljivanje zbog seksualnosti je prirodan deo života žene. Vršnjačko zlostavljanje je prirodan deo života mlade osobe. Zbog ejdžizma i seksizma ovog društva ljudi veruju da probleme sa kojima se susreću žene i mladi ljudi treba prihvatiti kao normu. Svaki put kada posramite ženu zbog njene seksualnosti, svaki put kada osuđujete ženu zbog količine seksa u kome uživa, ili kako se oblači, ili koliko flertuje, doprinosite kulturi koja navodi mlade žene na samoubistvo.
I poruka onima koji misle da seksizma više nema, ili da ne postoji ejdžizam protiv mladih ljudi – jasno je da niste u pravu.

http://izvankuhinje.blogspot.com/2012/10/ubistvo-iz-casti.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2Fizvankuhinje+%28Izvan+kuhinje%29

džin tonik

ponosna majka iz sela obaminih predaka
Kenijka rodila blizance Baracka Obamu i Mitta Romneya


QuoteDo jučer nepoznata Kenijka Millicent Awour postala je svjetska medijska senzacija jer je novorođenim sinovima blizancima dala imena Barack Obama i Mitt Romney.

Reuters piše da su dječaci rođeni u okolici sela Kolego iz kojeg potječu preci novoizabranog američkog predsjednika Baracka Obame te da Millicent nije bila jedina rodilja koja je u srijedu u istom rodilištu dijete nazvala po prvom afroameričkom predsjedniku SAD-a. Učinilo je to još nekoliko žena, ali nijedna nije imala i drugog sina kojemu bi mogla nadjenuti ime Obamina protukandidata na proteklim predsjedničkim izborima.

Osim u rodilištu, Obamina pobjeda proslavljena je i na ulicama Kolega čiji su stanovnici uvjereni da će sada doći do poboljšanja bilateralnih odnosa između Kenije i SAD-a.

Sudeći po komentarima na američkim portalima, ova je vijest zabavila mnoge građane SAD-a koji u šali zaključuju kako je bolje da je prošlo ovako nego da su djeca dobila ime po Donaldu Trumpu.

Josephine

ja sam zagovornica ideje da deca samoj sebi daju imena kada imaju lude i neodgovorne roditelje. :)


Meho Krljic

What Sex Means for World Peace   The evidence is clear: The best predictor of a state's stability is how its women are treated.    BY VALERIE M. HUDSON | Foreign Policy | APRIL 24, 2012    In the academic field of security studies, realpolitik dominates. Those who adhere to this worldview are committed to accepting empirical evidence when it is placed before their eyes, to see the world as it "really" is and not as it ideally should be. As Walter Lippmann wrote, "We must not substitute for the world as it is an imaginary world."

Well, here is some robust empirical evidence that we cannot ignore: Using the largest extant database on the status of women in the world today, which I created with three colleagues, we found that there is a strong and highly significant link between state security and women's security. In fact, the very best predictor of a state's peacefulness is not its level of wealth, its level of democracy, or its ethno-religious identity; the best predictor of a state's peacefulness is how well its women are treated. What's more, democracies with higher levels of violence against women are as insecure and unstable as nondemocracies.

Our findings, detailed in our new book out this month, Sex and World Peace, echo those of other scholars, who have found that the larger the gender gap between the treatment of men and women in a society, the more likely a country is to be involved in intra- and interstate conflict, to be the first to resort to force in such conflicts, and to resort to higher levels of violence. On issues of national health, economic growth, corruption, and social welfare, the best predictors are also those that reflect the situation of women. What happens to women affects the security, stability, prosperity, bellicosity, corruption, health, regime type, and (yes) the power of the state. The days when one could claim that the situation of women had nothing to do with matters of national or international security are, frankly, over. The empirical results to the contrary are just too numerous and too robust to ignore.

But as we look around at the world, the situation of women is anything but secure. Our database rates countries based on several categories of women's security from 0 (best) to 4 (worst). The scores were assigned based on a thorough search of the more than 130,000 data points in the WomanStats Database, with two independent evaluators having to reach a consensus on each country's score. On our scale measuring the physical security of women, no country in the world received a 0. Not one. The world average is 3.04, attesting to the widespread and persistent violence perpetrated against women worldwide, even among the most developed and freest countries. The United States, for instance, scores a 2 on this scale, due to the relative prevalence of domestic violence and rape.

It's ironic that authors such as Steven Pinker who claim that the world is becoming much more peaceful have not recognized that violence against women in many countries is, if anything, becoming more prevalent, not less so, and dwarfs the violence produced through war and armed conflict. To say a country is at peace when its women are subject to femicide -- or to ignore violence against women while claiming, as Pinker does, that the world is now more secure -- is simply oxymoronic.   
     
Gender-based violence is unfortunately ingrained in many cultures, so much so that it can take place not only during a woman's life but also before she is even born. On our scale measuring son preference and sex ratio, the world average is 2.41, indicating a generalized preference for sons over daughters globally. And in 18 countries, from Armenia to Vietnam, childhood sex ratios are significantly abnormal in favor of boys. The United Nations Population Fund suggests that, as of 2005, more than 163 million women were missing from Asia's population, whether through sex-selective abortion, infanticide, or other means. Demographer Dudley Poston of Texas A&M University has calculated that China will face a deficit of more than 50 million young adult women by the end of the decade. Think of the ways this imbalance will affect China's state stability and security -- and in turn its rise to world power -- in this century.

Other global indicators are equally disheartening. In family law, women are disadvantaged in areas such as marriage, divorce, and inheritance. This inequity in turn serves as a foundation for violence against women, while also undercutting their ability to fend for themselves and their children. My colleagues and I found that the world's average score for inequity in family law is 2.06, indicating that most countries have laws that discriminate to a greater or lesser degreeagainst women. And some of the countries in the Arab Spring, including populous Egypt, are actually poised to regress on this scale. Maternal mortality, meanwhile, clocks in globally at 2.45, a truly lamentable comment on state priorities and the value of female life.

Lastly, the inclusion of women's voices in decision-making bodies, as captured by the level of female participation in governments, measures an abysmal world average of 2.74. This is no surprise, given that the level of participation of women in government is less than 20 percent. But it's also true that some of the worst countries when it comes to the representation of women in national government include democracies such as Japan (13.4 percent in the Diet) and South Korea (14.7 percent), not to mention Hungary (8.8 percent). The United States is below average, with only 17 percent female participation in Congress. Ironically, when the United States invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, it urged that these countries have a minimum of 25 percent female participation, and now both countries score higher than their invader on this indicator: Afghanistan's parliament is nearly 28 percent female, and Iraq's is just over 25 percent. In that one respect, the United States has done better by Afghan and Iraqi women than by its own.

The evidence of violence against women is clear. So what does it mean for world peace?Consider the effects of sex-selective abortion and polygyny: Both help create an underclass of young adult men with no stake in society because they will never become heads of households, the marker for manhood in their cultures. It's unsurprising that we see a rise in violent crime, theft, and smuggling, whereby these young men seek to become contenders in the marriage market. But the prevalence of these volatile young males may also contribute to greater success in terrorist recruiting, or even state interest in wars of attrition that will attenuate the ranks of these men. For instance, the sole surviving terrorist from the 2008 Mumbai attacks testified that he was persuaded by his own father to participate in order to raise money for the dower that he and his siblings needed in order to marry.

We also know through experimental studies that post-conflict agreements that are negotiated without women break down faster than those that do include women, and that all-male groups take riskier, more aggressive, and less empathetic decisions than mixed groups -- two phenomena that may lead to higher levels of interstate conflict.

On an even deeper level, the template for living with other human beings who are different from us is forged within every society by the character of male-female relations. In countries where males rule the home through violence, male-dominant hierarchies rule the state through violence. This was most poignantly expressed by male Iranian dissidents who, during the ill-fated 2009 Green Revolution, explained their decision to wear headscarves as a sign of protest against the regime -- and an act of solidarity with the women long oppressed by it. As one supporter of the protests explained it, "We Iranian men are late doing this.... If we did this when rusari [the headscarf] was forced on those among our sisters who did not wish to wear it 30 years ago, we would have perhaps not been here today." This is a profound statement: Men who see women as beings to be subjugated will themselves continue to be subjugated. Men who see women as equal and valued partners are the only men who have a true chance to win their freedom and enjoy peace.

In a promising sign, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has declared women's issues a central focus of American foreign policy, explaining in 2010 that "women's equality is not just a moral issue; it's not just a humanitarian issue; it is not just a fairness issue. It is a security issue," which, she added, is "in the vital interest of the United States." But given the overwhelming evidence that improving the security of women improves the security and stability of states, it is amazing that some still balk, suggesting that third parties are helpless before ingrained cultural practices. The most pressing example right now is Afghanistan, where senior U.S. officials looking toward the United States' 2014 departure state baldly, "Gender issues are going to have to take a back seat to other priorities." We cannot but assume that the situation of Afghan women will only get worse when U.S. troops leave -- Afghan women themselves tell us it will be. And how does that square with Clinton's view?

The United States is not impotent to assist Afghanistan's women, even as it leaves that benighted land. It can at least attempt to ensure a softer landing for them after 2014. Before the United States leaves, it could set up an asylum policy for Afghan women facing the threat of femicide, or a scholarship program to send the best and brightest female Afghan students to American universities. It could ensure that women are well represented in the peace jirga talks with the Taliban. It could encourage the pursuit of International Criminal Court indictments against top Taliban leaders who have ordered femicides. It could complete funding for a Radio Free Women of Afghanistan station and establish mosque-based female education. The United States could insist to the Afghan government that women's shelters not be taken over by the government. And it could continue to condition aid to Afghanistan on specific and measurable improvements for women there. Hopefully, U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker and others will actively investigate these possibilities.

The evidence is clear: The primary challenge facing the 21st century is to eliminate violence against women and remove barriers to developing their strength, creativity, and voices. A bird with one broken wing, or a species with one wounded sex, will never soar. We know that. Humans have experienced it for millennia -- and paid for it with rivers of blood and mountains of needless suffering. The countries of the world must try a different path, one that we have every empirical reason to believe will lead to greater well-being, prosperity, and security for the entire international system. Sex and world peace, then, with no question mark.

džin tonik

kako podmuklo! d. ignoriraj! ne daj se otjerati!

Meho Krljic

Gde da se otera? Ko je tera? Kako?

angel011

We're all mad here.

Meho Krljic

Bizarno i tužno.

lilit

ta irska je stvarno cudo od zemlje. ono malo sto cuh od lokalnog stanovnistva, tinejdzerski brakovi, lose skole, vecina i dalje "jednopolne". al vazno je da svuda primenjuju no smoking policy!!!!
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Josephine

sve je to tako beznadežno (*depresija mod)...

Karl Rosman

"On really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion."
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won over it"

Josephine


Agota

pajac.trazi paznju.
This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...

Josephine

ne znam baš... odrekao se svega. traži pažnju sigurno, ali ima i nekog autentičnog bunta protiv sistema tu...

Karl Rosman

Mozda mu je udobnost na prvom mestu?  :D
"On really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion."
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won over it"

Josephine

hihihi, možda. ali je simpatičan.  xcheers

Melkor

Na današnji dan, zapitajte se: ne šta muškarci mogu da učine za vas, već šta vi možete da učinite za muškarce!
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

Josephine

da ih šutnem u dupe onako razmažene i nesposobne.

lilit

Quote from: Melkor on 19-11-2012, 12:42:31
Na današnji dan, zapitajte se: ne šta muškarci mogu da učine za vas, već šta vi možete da učinite za muškarce!

ja moradoh svasta kad mi muz upade nocas s pitanjem (nakon gledanja filma koji si postovao na TW): - what the fuck is this?
jedva se izvukoh!  xrofl xrofl
That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Melkor

http://io9.com/5962243/think-twice-before-using-mankind-to-mean-all-humanity-say-scholars

QuoteWords are what they mean right now, and over the past forty years "humanity" has become more acceptable than "mankind" if you want to refer to all human beings, both male and female.
Or, as Pareles put it succinctly, "In my opinion, 'humanity' and 'humankind' are the appropriate words in contemporary English."
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

tomat

Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded.

Melkor

http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Drustvo/354535/U-Srbiji-svaka-druga-zena-zrtva-nasilja

Svaka treća žena u svetu pretrpela je neki oblik nasilja, a u Srbiji je svaka druga žena pretrpela fizičko, psihičko, ekonomsko ili seksualno nasilje, saopšteno je na Nacionalnoj konferenciji "Borba protiv nasilja u porodici, šta dalje?".
Stana Božović, državna sekretarka u Ministarstvu rada, zapošljavanja i socijalne politike, rekla je da se u Srbiji najčešće beleži porodično nasilje, te da je ono u 90 odsto fizičko, a u 78 odsto psihičko.
   
- Najčešće, u 78 odsto slučajeva, nasilnik je ženin partner, u devet odsto - to je sin, a u 4,2 odsto slučajeva ćerka - dodala je Stana Božović.
 
Ona je navela da je prošle godine ubijeno 46 žena, koje su bile žrtve nasilja, a smrt njih 27 je direktna posledica nasilja u porodici.
 
Roger Jorgensen, prvi sekretar ambasade Norveške u Srbiji  rekao je da je svaka treća žena u svetu žrtva nasilja i da je rešavanje tog problema prioritet na globalnom nivou.
 
Istraživanje sprovedeno u centralnoj Srbiji pokazalo je da je svaka druga žena odnosno 54,2 odsto njih bilo tokom svog života izloženo nekoj vrsti nasilja.
 
Prema podacima resornog ministarstva, najviše je rasprostranjeno psihičko nasilje - 46,1 odsto, zatim istovremeno psihičko i fizičko nasilje sa 17,3 odsto, pa fizičko, ekonomsko i psihičko - 12 odsto i psihičko i ekonomsko - osam odsto.
 
Ti podaci pokazuju i da 75 odsto žena koje su bile žrtve nasilja smatraju da se treba obratiti nekoj od institucija za pomoć.
 
Na inicijativu Uprave za rodnu ravnopravnost između ostalog je usvojen Zakon o ravnopravnosti polova 2009. godine i Nacionalna strategija za poboljšanje položaja žena i unapređivanje rodne ravnopravnosti 2011. godine.
 
Današnju konferenciju organizovala je Uprava za rodnu ravnopravnost uz podršku Ambasade Švedske.
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

Джон Рейнольдс

Свака друга претрпела породично насиље? Чисто просеравање. Ово није чак ни за тему "Д. реагуј".
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

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Alexdelarge

Quote from: Джон Рейнольдс on 23-11-2012, 21:08:57
Свака друга претрпела породично насиље? Чисто просеравање. Ово није чак ни за тему "Д. реагуј".

Usrala se u prodavnici ...da ne poverujes...
moj se postupak čitanja sastoji u visokoobdarenom prelistavanju.

srpski film je remek-delo koje treba da dobije sve prve nagrade.


Father Jape

Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Milosh

Jesam li ja jedini koji je ovo "radnoj akciji" pročitao kao "rodnoj akciji"?
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part."

http://milosh.mojblog.rs/

Plut

Moguće. Ja samo vidim da ni njemu nije lako.

Truman

Diiiiiiiiiiii, jesi li živa? Postavljaš neke depresivne statuse na fejsu il mi se čini? xyxy
Ja da valjam ne bih bio ovde.

Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."