ZNAK SAGITE — više od fantastike — edicija, časopis, knjižara...

Quote from: Dybuk on 27-07-2015, 22:16:07
Hmm, nisu mogli da nadju nekog talentovanijeg republikanca?

Pa, nijedan drugi republikanac ne nosi takve majce u svojim filmovima. 

Obašnjenje kako to Vins radi od 7:30.

http://youtu.be/2IW8OK4_1gQ

Quote from: Dybuk on 27-07-2015, 22:16:07
ne znam kako je Rej mogao da sve ono unese u sebe i da ostane ziv, malo preterano.

Možda jer je Rej težak alkos. Ima visoku toleranciju.

A onolika droga sto je usisao? No dobro, verovatno si u pravu.

Pa, rekao bih i na to. Mada, nisam 100% siguran.

"Na alkohol tolerantne osobe su križano tolerantne na mnoge druge tvari koje deprimiraju CNS (npr. barbiturate, nebarbituratne sedative, benzodiazepine)."

http://www.msd-prirucnici.placebo.hr/msd-prirucnik/psihijatrija/lijekovi-droge-i-ovisnost/alkoholizam

eo table
http://i.imgur.com/gwwv3iG.jpg

Mene ovaj sajt oduševio.

http://www.gettheworldwedeserve.com/

Ovde je za prvu sezonu.

http://www.wekeeptheotherbadmenfromthedoor.com/#

Quote from: Linkin on 27-07-2015, 21:33:48
Konačno shvatih i nešto što me je najviše zbunjivalo: ulogu pedera u okvirima rekreiranog Tvin Piks univerzuma iliti grada Vinčija.
On je onaj sporedni momak na motoru što mami setne poglede ženskinja, Džejms Herli, koji na kraju pobegne iz grada. Znači, pozer na motoru koji se distancira od svih za Picolata je običan gej.

pa ovo je valjda bilo jasno od prve epizode, ne?

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 27-07-2015, 22:40:00
eo table
http://i.imgur.com/gwwv3iG.jpg

hehe, ajvar

Quote from: tomat on 27-07-2015, 22:46:44

Quote from: Linkin on 27-07-2015, 21:33:48
Konačno shvatih i nešto što me je najviše zbunjivalo: ulogu pedera u okvirima rekreiranog Tvin Piks univerzuma iliti grada Vinčija.
On je onaj sporedni momak na motoru što mami setne poglede ženskinja, Džejms Herli, koji na kraju pobegne iz grada. Znači, pozer na motoru koji se distancira od svih za Picolata je običan gej.

pa ovo je valjda bilo jasno od prve epizode, ne?

Šta da ti kažem. Promakao mi gej.

Evo konačno jedne epizode koja je malo bolje prošla na RT (u rangu prve tri) i dobila ocenu fresh 74%.


Sezona 1: svi kritičari 85%, top kritičari 81%, gledaoci  97%
100%, 100%, 100%, 93%, 100%, 58%, 91%, 81%

Sezona 2: svi kritičari 65%, top kritičari rotten 59%, gledaoci 74%
76%, 86%, 77%, rotten 52%, rotten 54%, 74%


Šta kažu top kritičari koji su dali rotten ocenu ovoj epizodi:

Sonia Saraiya
Salon.com   
For all the nuance and complexity that the show aspires to, or pretends to aspire to, the nuances in this episode either hit the viewer like a train, they're so obvious, or whizz right by, because they swing and miss so damn hard.

Andy Greenwald
Grantland   
I don't need to understand the motivations of the various holding companies responsible for the high-speed railway - hell, at this moment I can't even remember their names.

Spencer Kornhaber
The Atlantic   
Six episodes in, there's nearly zero narrative momentum and the stakes remain low.


A evo šta kažu top kritičari koji su dali fresh:

Michael Calia
Wall Street Journal   
It played a lot like a drugged-out blend of the climax of The Shining and the creepy masque at the heart of Eyes Wide Shut A perfectly creepy, True Detective-style celebration of the late Stanley Kubrick's 87th birthday.

Jeremy Egner
New York Times   
Well, we got a little further but not by much.

Sean T. Collins
Rolling Stone   
This was the best episode of True Detective we've seen all season - tighter, smarter, and more truly sinister than anything the 2.0 version has tried so far.

Vinnie Mancuso
New York Observer   
Such progress on the actual detective work front!

Kenny Herzog
New York Magazine/Vulture   
We're getting closer to some version of the truth as it pertains to Caspere's killer, but the tone of this noir fantasy is increasingly, resolutely bitter.

Jeff Jensen
Entertainment Weekly   
"Church in Ruins" was the first episode of True Detective this season that I enjoyed from start to finish without much reservation since episode 2.

Emily L. Stephens
AV Club   
It feels like the second season of True Detective is getting to know itself a little bit, or like it knew itself all along and just didn't know it did.


I dalje se kritičarima sviđa povezivanje. To su opet solidne ocene, kao sa početka ove sezone, kad su davali kredite Picolatu da će nešto ipak ispasti iz svega, ali ništa to još nikoga nije impresioniralo, kao prošle sezone.

The dangers of auteur TV: How "True Detective" went from critical darling to laughingstock 



By now, just about everyone has taken a shot at the current season of "True Detective." It's too dense, too grim, too earnest, too masculine. Its creator is too obsessed with sexual weirdness. It's a rip-off of James Ellroy's novels. And, as we keep hearing, it's not as good as the bayou-set Season 1. There's no consensus — one IndieWire article wonders "Why No One Can Agree on Anything About 'True Detective' Season 2″– but critics and civilians alike started, a few weeks ago, to take real pleasure in their dissing of Nic Pizzolatto's show. There's even a whole online discussion of why people "hate-watch" the show, and whether it makes sense, and what they might view instead; these folks don't agree either, but the hatred of this California-set season is taken for granted.

The shortcomings of this season are real. Most seriously, the plot is so dense and complicated that it's easy to lose track even while watching attentively. And it makes it harder to focus on details of character or storytelling or whatever when one unlikely plot twist after another keeps appearing out of nowhere.

But there is so much good in the second season: strong performances, intelligent dialogue, a strong if imperfect sense of place. And Season 1 — especially thanks to its Louisiana setting, its use of fractured narrative, and the chemistry between Matthew McConaughey's and Woody Harrelson's characters — is some of the best television in history. So whether you believe that Season 2 is just a bit messy or a major bellyflop, it's worth asking, What happened?

What it may come down to is the limits of something that seemed to define this genuinely great era of high-end television: the heroic showrunner auteur. Instead of being a product made by committee, these new character-driven series were crafted by mavericks and intellectuals who compressed all their experience, all their neuroses, into their storytelling. These smart cable shows were, as journalist Brett Morgan laid out in his useful chronicle of the post-"Sopranos" revolution, "Difficult Men," our age's equivalent to the Great American Novel, the serious film. (And of course, the term "auteur" was most famously applied to the work of heavy American filmmakers, and it was the individuality of their vision, in part, that made them major artists in the way that mere craftsmen or journeyman directors were not.)

Sometimes it works: "The Wire" is one of the great documents of our time, and, a lot of that greatness came from David Simon and his decades of journalistic storytelling. Despite some dissipation near the end, Matt Weiner's "Mad Men" chronicled a misunderstood period of American life in a fresh, lively way. Would we have wanted difficult man David Milch to have had a collaborator for "Deadwood"? Probably not — though we'd have preferred another season or two.

Bas imam problema da povezem stvari sa eng titlovima. Sta je latino chick rekla frenku preko telefona? Da joj je mrsavi plavokosi pandur dao dijamante da zalozi? Jel se cilja na onog izdajnika koji frenku iza ledja ocigledno radi? I ona deca, treba li da znam ko su ili ce se tek otkriti?

''Thin, white. He was a cop.'' može biti svako

to oko djece je još zamršeno, otkriće se, tipujem na

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/609080541674012672/dho29bxs_400x400.jpg

i

https://www.sky.at/static/img/entertainment/ep12-ss02-1920-scaled-1.jpg


u suštini, sve što si pitao tek treba da se otkrije, ali djeca su prisustvovala pljački zlatare, a dijamante su našli kod Kaspera, dakle prepoznali su dijamante, ako ne i samog Kaspera...

Quote from: Petronije on 28-07-2015, 08:27:39
Bas imam problema da povezem stvari

Ne brini Petronije, sve si ukapirao. Zamršeno je. I nepovezano. Tj, nabacana je gomila subplotova koja zapravo ne vode nikud.

Tj, otkrićemo ko je pandur, ali on verovatno nema veze sa Kasperovim ubistvom. Jer čak i taj sat koji je Irina založila pitanje da li je Kasperov. Slike nisu bile 100% match.

Deca su, za sada, glavni lead za ubice. Poenta je da serija ima milion likova i svih milion imaju otprilike 3 miliona različitih motiva da ubiju Kaspera. Bukvalno. 

Svoju pretpostavku ko su deca sam već okačio na prethodnoj strani: klinac je set fotograf za koga fanovi odavno spekulišu da je Birdman, a klinka je Casperova zadnja eskort dama, koju još nismo upoznali, Miss Tasha.

http://truedetectiverumors.com/2015/07/08/have-true-detective-fans-cracked-the-central-mystery/



Mada, ako je ovo Tvin Piks rekonstrukcija, onda glavni lik mora biti ubica.

A jedini glavni lik sa problemima dvostruke ličnosti je Frenk.

Ok, hvala Bato i Linkine, bitno mi je da nisam promasio neki ocigledan trag zbog svog neobrazovanja, ali izgleda da je dugogodisnje igranje avantura uz pomoc recnika dovoljno za pracenje. Oni su dakle videli ubicu koji je odneo dijamante, ali koliko sam shvatio oronulog pandura (ako je uopste pandur, mozda cuvar?), ubica je nosio masku? Moguce da zato kasperov ubica nosi masku, mozda je ista maska u pitanju, onda bi prica sa decom imala smisla. Verovatno se tu ubacuju i ovi mafijasi koji sjebavaju Frenka, tj. da su oni nekako naveli ubicu na Kaspera iz svojih interesa. Jedino se ne secam otkud dijamanti kod kaspera, sta, licno on je izvrsio pljacku i ubio roditelje dece? I ko je doturio slike sa dijamantima mekadamsovoj? Jebote koja zbrka Makar je postalo zanimljivo, pun mi je k. vise Frenkovih bracnih problema...

našla Ani dijamante u Kasperovom sefu, kako su se tu našli nije objašnjeno

mislim da nisu djeca vidjela ubicu, ali sve će to tek da se rasplete

i u prvoj sezoni jedan Čildresov eksces razotkrije mnogo više, i zamulji stvari za detektive, tako da je to više kao igra u kojoj ima raznih tragova, i treba se probiti, ali nisi ništa propustio, to jest niko ne zna odgovor na to što pitaš

inače, u svjetlu ovoga, je li ko primijetio da li je Frenkova žena ikada u seriji izjavila koje joj je djevojačko prezime? Jer ispada i tu može biti nešto zaebano, ali lično nisam čuo to u seriji, samo u ovim internet teorijama zavjere

da ne pričamo za te silne abortuse, i da li je to povezano sa prethodnom epizodom

Quote from: Petronije on 28-07-2015, 12:19:17
Linkine, bitno mi je da nisam promasio neki ocigledan trag zbog svog neobrazovanja,

Pa vidiš druže tu ti je greška. Kao što ni u prošloj sezoni nije zapravo bilo bitno da raspleteš sve tragove da bi došao do ubice, tako neće ni u ovoj.

Zašto? Pa zato što je i njima očigledno da sve subplotove ne mož da isprati prosečan gledalac. Ti subplotovi i jesu samo bonus, skretanje paženje i zabava za natprosečne.

A u zadnjoj iteraciji Picolato će servirati konačno rešenje kao u prošloj sezoni, nešto sasvim van pameti. I protivno svim nagoveštajima. Znači, nešto ko ta Miss Tasha, što se pominjala od početka serije, a nikad je nismo videli, ili taj set fotograf, koga vidimo u pola minute. Ili da je Frenk ubio ortaka, i bacio sopstveni novac neki podrum, pa zaboravio, kako pati od šizofrenije.

I onda će doći Picobata i reći da je to serija nad serijama, omiljena serija o Džordžu. Vrhunsko remek-delo bolje od Džejmsa Džojsa, Elroja i Linča zajedno.

Izasao je prevod pa sam ga prelistao, Irina Rulfo je rekla Frenku kako joj je beli mrsavi pandur dao 500$, stvari, i da zadrzi novac od zaloga samo da bi ih zalozila. Nidje veze. Onaj radnik osiguranja nije naglasio da su deca videla napadace samo je rekao da su bili maskirani. Sve u svemu, jos uvek je sve zamrseno.

Quote from: Petronije on 28-07-2015, 13:47:06
Sve u svemu, jos uvek je sve zamrseno.

Da, konfuzija. Kritičarka salon.com je to najbolje prikazala. Nažalost, na engleskom. Probaj da prevedeš bar ovo što sam boldovao:


"True Detective" recap: The hotly anticipated orgy finally happens (and it's a mess, of course)
And, as if this show isn't confusing enough, the detectives have a new lead: chasing down 2 orphans of the LA riots

"Church in Ruins" is an episode of "True Detective" that made me wonder how many times we're supposed to watch an episode in order to understand what the hell is going on. Pajiba's Dustin Rowles has a post called "Who the Hell Is Stan" on 'True Detective'" that well encapsulates my point: A character we saw for just a few short flashes is killed and lengthily mourned, to the viewing audience's incredible confusion. In this episode, Frank and Jordan go to Stan's widow's house to pay their respects and hand over some cash; Frank tells a boy he's golden, or has gold in him, or some other laudatory bullshit. Paul meets with an ex-cop about two children who might have been connected to the diamonds but were definitely connected to the L.A. riots. There's a chair covered with blood in a cabin in the woods. Frank is looking for a woman for some reason, and ends up getting her killed by a gang that shakes him down in the process. You are a better viewer than I if you could keep all those threads straight; if you were able to understand, in one pass, why we were watching everything "True Detective" was throwing at us.

This is an episode of "True Detective" that felt the most like it drew a coherent story arc, which in some ways made the ending quite satisfying. It went for a big finish—going into the mission, and then having it end with a black, speeding car racing through a dark canyon, our heroes under the cover of shadow, and successful, to boot. An electric guitar riff starts up and accompanies them as they fishtail a hard left and Ray switches the headlights back on. It's triumphant. It's sexy. It would not be out of place in the final panel of an issue of a comic book. The scene even takes place in an American car, making the moment evoke some kind of hybrid between a "Fast and Furious" film and a western.

And yet it felt so stupidly silly. For all the nuance and complexity that the show aspires to, or pretends to aspire to, the nuances in this episode either hit the viewer like a train, they're so obvious, or whizz right by, because they swing and miss so damn hard. Maybe you don't know why Paul's got a photo of two kids and he's showing it to a retired cop, but if there was any doubt whatsoever about why Ani's got so much trauma, we've got a few flashbacks, the look of sick horror on her face, and oh yeah, very enthusiastic scoring in the background that wants to make extremely clear to you just how pained you are supposed to feel.

It's just broad—it's so broad it's just one really big marker, and the marker is black, and it represents the road, the car, the people in it, just one long streak. Some of the scenes are beautifully staged—the sex workers lined up to enter the party, backlit by blue; the sudden flashes of light as the wooden chair, sticky with blood, is photographed; even the mundane drama of the kitchen table, as Ray and Frank face off. But there isn't a beat to this that feels surprising, interesting, relevant, even upsetting. The orgy is a Hollywood stock orgy, borrowing from Stanley Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" and a healthy dose of male fantasy. The drug gang drama follows on the heels of the last story line involving a "cartel"—let's make a bloc of Mexicans the bad guys and see if anyone notices!—with the added joy of cutting another woman up. Ray's cocaine/liquor/smashing things relapse is par for the course.

And even Ani's drugging seems to borrow from every silly misconception of how drugs work. Maybe the woman next to Ani who told her the spray was molly (a pure form of MDMA, also known as ecstasy) was mistaken. But in that case, the other women at that house were on a really different drug than Ani, because they all seem to be having a great time, which would line up more with molly than something more sedative, like GHB. Annoyingly, Ani's trip is visually and experientially both really unlike what ecstasy does (according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse: "It produces feelings of increased energy, euphoria, emotional warmth and empathy toward others, and distortions in sensory and time perception") and also incredibly boring; oh, you're going to depict an altered state with blurry vision and a flashback? How entirely original! We live in a world where "Mad Men" depicted LSD with incredible clarity of vision and "Breaking Bad" explored heroin's effects with cinematic gymnastics. We expect better. Never mind that Ani forcing herself to vomit would not rid herself of a drug that was sprayed into her mouth, and would have therefore made it to her bloodstream through her saliva, bypassing the stomach entirely. I know that "True Detective" is fiction, but come on; this is HBO in an era of some of the best television ever made. Surely you can fact-check.

mršavi pandur je onaj o kojem su ćale i sin Velkoro pričali, to jest, jedino mi on pada na pamet

ali nije bio na žurci, kao ni gradonačelnik, ali bio je šef policije

Kad sam ponovo procitao prevod pomislio sam na ovog lika, "mrsavi beli panur, mislim da je neki sef"




Sto se tice Linkinovih boldova, procitao sam, (nemam problem sa citanjem teksta kad imam vremena da lagano tumacim cisto da se razumemo), generalno kriticarka je u pravu stim sto meni ne smetaju toliko navedene stvari sad kada se sezona zakuvala i sve dobija kakav takav smisao. Recimo primetio sam te stvari oko droge na zurci, ocekivao sam drugaciju reakciju ali nije mi smetalo, svako reaguje drugacije na droge, pogotovo ne znas kako ce da reaguje onaj ko ih  ne koristi. Mozda su onoj ribi sto ju je nasla prethodno ubrizgali i heroin pa je zato bila u onakvom stanju. Vise mi je zasmetalo sto vila nema neku kontrolnu sobu i nije okruzena IC kamerama na primer, ali ni to nije toliki problem, takvih sitnica ima i u ostalim serijama (BB ih je prepun, cak i vise nego u TD), samo da ga Pica ovaj put rasplete kako dolikuje, da imamo makar ljudski kraj kad nas je vec pola sezone mrcvario.

Quote from: Petronije on 28-07-2015, 14:51:32
Vise mi je zasmetalo sto vila nema neku kontrolnu sobu i nije okruzena IC kamerama na primer, ali ni to nije toliki problem, takvih sitnica ima i u ostalim serijama (BB ih je prepun, cak i vise nego u TD)

Heh, pa da tako sitničarimo Birdman ne bi mogao da prođe ni pod razno, pošto je cela Kalifornija u kamerama mogu bukvalno da ga trekuju do mesta gde je navukao mestu, plus postoje i satelitski snimci, da ne govorimo o tome da je tip verovatno imao mobilni, pa su ga mogli treckovati i tako, samo ukrste liste mobilnih sa mesta gde je nađen leš, Kasperove kuće i Kasperovog stana gde je napadnut Rej.

Ali, dobro. Da uvedemo najmanju trunku realizma, tj. metodologija današnje panduracije (a tamo su čak tri pandura iz tri različita odseka, te svakako neko ima tehničke mogućnosti i potrebna ovlašćenja) ni jedna kriminalistička serija ne bi danas bila moguća. 

Linkin više ne zna đe udara, postao je očajnik, kao narkoman koji ne dobija dozu, pa na jednoj temi izgleda govori o slavljenju narkomanske kulture, a na drugoj je problem bad trip, što nije neka hvalospjeva vrijedna halucinacija zbog koje bi svi poželjeli novi šmrk, srk ili iglu

pa kažem ja, nije ovo GoT plastična pornjava, i poenta je bilo da joj se zgadi

kako god da okreneš, Picolato izmrcvari sve najuzornije holivudske modele, od kvalitetnog urađivanja preko rnićpo do serije Friends, sve je to gadno

Picolato!

Quote from: Linkin on 12-07-2015, 17:58:45
Inače, pre novog Detektiva možda je pravi trenutak da se posetimo jednog od najkomičnijih momenata prošle epizode:

Who the Hell Is Stan on 'True Detective'?

Zbunjene mase su reagovale ovako:



A odgovor je, trivijalan: Stan je baš niko.

Neko koga vidimo da koristi peper sprej na dve sekunde u drugoj epizodi.



Još jedan u moru bezličnih likova u Detektivu. Pitanje zanimljivije od odgovora.

Nismo stigli ni da ga primetimo, kamoli upoznamo, da ne spominjemo vežemo, tj, da nas bude briga što je mrtav, pluz saznajemo kako se zvao tek kad je već mrtav.

Nadam se da nas i u novoj epizodi naše omiljene komedije ne čekaju slični šokeri kao što je Stenova smrt. 

Who da fuq is Stan? Jesu njegovu udovicu i sina tesili Frenk i zena bese? Pa onaj govor malom 'you have gold inside'. Koja sprdnja

Ja sam to shvatio kao situaciju u kojoj Frenk konacno shvata kakve posledice njegove ambicije imaju na zivote ljudi oko njega, kao i to koliko su mu potrebna deca i porodicni mir i da je zreo da postane otac i ne bude vise gangster. Jes da sam nabacao ko lopatom ali valjda je jasno sta sam hteo rec'.

To se samo traži trunje u Picolatovim očima, a on samo blink away i trunje nestaje! No debla u GoT, Brejking bednicima itd ostaju za vjeki vjekova, amin.

 

Petronije, ja sam to shvatila kao slepu ulicu
Ozbiljno, naravno da je kao taj razgovor sa decakom nekakva inicijacija i Frenkov razgovor sa samim sobom, u prenesenom smislu, ali on nije iskren, zapravo samo odradjuje zadatak, zena mu je pogledom pokazala da ode i prica s malim dok ona tesi ucveljenu udovicu. Oni su oboje sociopate ako mene pitas.

pa čoek je lijepo reko da mu je Rej najbolji prijatelj, šta bi ti više

Ja nista!

Samo kazem, malo se zeza s nama ovaj tvoj drugar Bato. Mada, generalno dobra epizoda.

Ma Frenk je pickica, isprala mu zena mozak pricama o deci i porodici, vidis kako se raspao kad je udovica pocela da kuka, isto i sa mexikankom prerezanog zdrela...nema mu spasa, za takve mekane gangstere nema mesta u picolatovom surovom svetu.

Quote from: Petronije on 28-07-2015, 15:48:49
nema mu spasa, za takve mekane gangstere nema mesta u picolatovom surovom svetu.

Ja čekam da ga ubije već dve epizode i ništa.

Već sam se pomirio da neće ni u sledećoj. Picolato očigledno ni ne ume da ubije glavne likove. Samo ove nebitne sporedne i to dok su not introduced.

Što znači da je Frenk verovatno ubica, u svom pomerenom umu, i protivno logici prve epizode, nema dalje.

Quote from: Petronije on 28-07-2015, 15:48:49
Ma Frenk je pickica, isprala mu zena mozak pricama o deci i porodici, vidis kako se raspao kad je udovica pocela da kuka, isto i sa mexikankom prerezanog zdrela...nema mu spasa, za takve mekane gangstere nema mesta u picolatovom surovom svetu.

Picolato se realno zaebava, Frenk je stalno na ivici da postane Rejov alter ego, kao što je čovjek i rekao u drugoj epizodi kad je gledao u mrlje na zidu, kao da ne postoji i nikad nije izašao iz podruma

al to bi bilo previše linčovski...

Gledanost je ove nedelje u blagom padu, mada realno možemo govoriti o trendu zastoja plada gledanosti, jer je neznatno pala u odnosu na petu, a praktično na istom nivou kao i četvrta.

Dakle, vrlo blage oscilacije gledanosti od četvrte u odnosu na relativno strmoglav pad od finala prošle sezone do četvrte epizode:


finale 1 sezone: 3.52
2 sezona ep1: 3.17
2 sezona ep2: 3.05
2 sezona ep3: 2.62
2 sezona ep4: 2.36
2 sezona ep5: 2.42
2 sezona ep6: 2.34

3.52 >> 3.17 > 3.05 >> 2.62 > 2.36 < 2.42 > 2.32


Mada, ako u uporedimo sa prvom sezonom, ovo je zapravo prva epizoda na kojoj je gledanost pala ispod gledanosti iste epizode u prvoj sezoni.

Gledanost šeste epizode prve sezone bila je 2.64, što znači da je serija u ovom trenutku na gubitku od 320,000 gledalaca između dve sezone.

Takođe, ovo je prva epizoda ove sezone koja je neznatno pala ispod prosečne gledanosti prve sezone, tj. 2.33.

Grafikon gledanosti serije još nije apdejtovan, ali trebalo bi da se na njemu krive prve i druge sezone po prvi put ukrste.


Serija je od prošlogodišnjeg finala do šeste epizode druge sezone na gubitku od 1,200,000 gledalaca. Što je više od polovine trenutnih gledalaca.



A serija bi se uskoro, ako već nije, mogla naći u situaciji da se bori da ne bude ugašena:


True Detective' Season 3 Cancelled? HBO Series Axed After Season 2 Due To Poor Ratings?


'True Detective' season 3 may be cancelled if the ratings continue to fall, as it has got a little over 2.3 million viewers and HBO is thinking of cancelling it.

Though the chances of 'True Detective' getting cancelled mid-season are low, it may struggle to get a third season if the number of viewers keep falling. Critics too are also not that keen on promoting the show as they find the plot a little too confusing. Many claim that it is the muddled plot that is driving away the critics. But it might just be that the show is failing to get off on the popularity front because it hasn't yet generated a buzz for itself.

The show got a good response for the first season. It was widely acclaimed to be groundbreaking television. What is surprising here is that the second season seems to be doing better than the first season as far as the viewer ratings are concerned, but critics still panned it. It might just be that the plot seems too complicated to them because they are being fed a steady diet of mindless reality TV shows that require little to no contemplation.

It is sad that even after having an interesting plot line and some really big stars for cast, the show is failing to interest the critics. Slate's Willa Paskins said that she was willing to give the show the benefit of doubt for its gritty philosophy laced dialogue, but after the last episode, she would be surprised if the show gets more attention. "Season 1 of 'True Detective' was hardly uncomplicated, but compared to what's going on in Season 2, it was as streamlined as a bullet," she noted.

Whatever be the HBO's decision about the show, true fans will miss 'True Detective' if it gets cancelled.

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 28-07-2015, 17:31:37

Quote from: Petronije on 28-07-2015, 15:48:49
Ma Frenk je pickica, isprala mu zena mozak pricama o deci i porodici, vidis kako se raspao kad je udovica pocela da kuka, isto i sa mexikankom prerezanog zdrela...nema mu spasa, za takve mekane gangstere nema mesta u picolatovom surovom svetu.

Picolato se realno zaebava, Frenk je stalno na ivici da postane Rejov alter ego, kao što je čovjek i rekao u drugoj epizodi kad je gledao u mrlje na zidu, kao da ne postoji i nikad nije izašao iz podruma

al to bi bilo previše linčovski...

Ne znam za njega ali sa onim mexosima se definitivno sprda, to je najurnebesniji mafijaski latino dvojac ikada

Quote from: Petronije on 28-07-2015, 18:25:52
najurnebesniji mafijaski latino dvojac ikada

Pa, Picolatu je realno krajnji doment neka žanrovska treš parodija tipa Mrak Filma ili Golog Pištolja.

Svako drugo tumačenje je apofenija, tj. učitavanje nepostojeće dimenzije u nasumične elemente treš parodije.

pošto su se linkinovci svih zemalja udružili da smrde nečovještvom, čitav dan seru o efektu droge koju je Ani koristila, i kako to nikako nije realno i te fore, eo malo edukacije

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/11/22/health/9-things-molly-drug/

Picolato prosto dominira, nevjerovatno je koliko mu ne mogu ništa

Čokolato!

 

Nisam ispratila, sta kazu, sta je nerealno, efekti ili...?

A meni je nerealno sledece: droga uneta putem spreja, dakle brzo apsorbovana i kao takva usla u sistem i pocela da deluje. Posle nekog vremena Ani ode, povrati i vec joj je bolje. Nemam iskustva, al mi nesto nelogicno...Mislim, vec se svarila ili sta vec.

nerealno to da ekstazi stvara halucinacije, a ovo i nije ekstazi, to jest prostitutka je rekla da je to Molly (kao da je ona ekspert za sastav spreja), a onda su dodatno debili zaključili da je Molly u stvari samo ekstazi i ništa drugo


realno može biti i heroin u spreju, to niko ne može da zna na osnovu izjave ribe, nepouzdanog svjedoka

a to oko spreja, u pitanju je mala količina, jer je rastvor, dakle nije ni bilo jako

mislim da ipak nije ta žurka ni toliko kratko trajala, sem ako su se svi bacili na posao u roku od 30 sekundi, dakle klasična montaža je u pitanju + nije ona bila pri sebi ni nakon povraćanja, čim je uradila to što je uradila

Quote from: Dybuk on 29-07-2015, 00:52:59
A meni je nerealno sledece: droga uneta putem spreja, dakle brzo apsorbovana i kao takva usla u sistem i pocela da deluje. Posle nekog vremena Ani ode, povrati i vec joj je bolje. Nemam iskustva, al mi nesto nelogicno...Mislim, vec se svarila ili sta vec.

To isto primetio i kritičar iz The Atlantica:

"1) I'm not a doctor, but just this once I'm going to play one on the Internet: I'm pretty confident that you can't vomit out an aerosol spray that has already hit your bloodstream. Why make it an aerosol—the whole point of which would seem to be that it's not something that makes its way down your alimentary canal—if you're subsequently going to treat it like a pill or drink anyway?"

Zapravo, to su tri kritičara iz The Atlantica koja su napravila orgije sa Picolatovom epizodom sa orgijama. Sprdačina kosmičkih razmera. Prenosim ovde par najboljih fora ali ima ih ogromantan broj, tako da vredi kliknuti na link i pročitati ceo dugačak tekst.

Dakle, ko voli dobru zajebanciju s Detektivom nek pogleda:

True Detective Season Two: The End of an Orgy
Ani went undercover, Frank embraced his sensitive side, Paul tested his powers of observation, and Ray went insane.

"Remember when Ray got shot in episode two and appeared to be dead but came back with a renewed sense of purpose and stopped drinking. No? That's okay. Neither does the show: It was essentially forgotten after the subsequent episode. Remember when half a dozen (or more) Vinci cops were killed in a bloody shootout along with dozen(s?) of civilians? No? Fine: True Detective's left that behind, too. Unless I missed it, there was not a single mention of this nationally historic bloodbath tonight.

And that's to say nothing of the smaller twists that the show tosses out episode after episode and then drops almost immediately: the Mad Max-like movie set from which the Caspere murder car was stolen; the baby-masked bad guy who torched said car and was then chased by Ani and Ray through Depression-Era Hobo Town; the deliberate poisoning of the land with heavy metals—remember, this supplied the first shot of the entire season—so that it would sell for less; etc., etc. ... Fill in your own favorites from the dozen other intersecting and frequently mislaid story lines the show has offered up so far."

...

Do you guys share my sense that creator Nic Pizzolatto hurriedly wrote enough material for about 30 episodes  , and then even more hurriedly—like, 52 Pickup hurriedly—grabbed cards here and there and assembled them into some vague semblance of a deck?

...

This, I guess, is True Detective season two: endless amounts of information uttered almost as an afterthought by characters who are near-impossible to understand, and then a few ambitious and cinematic scenes where hardly anyone speaks at all. The orgy sequence was extraordinary in its tonal dissonance, seemingly incorporating elements from a hundred different sources, none of which made sense together. The glaring string-section soundtrack that appeared to have been lifted directly from a John Huston movie. Ani's twisted Cinderella makeover (total wasted opportunity IMHO, since Tim Gunn had to have been involved). All the briefly glimpsed sequences of bacchanalian horror starring real porn actors, and the nice orgy etiquette of Champagne glasses for Champagne, martini glasses for Viagra.
...

Such as: Is an orgy really the place to finalize paperwork on a $12 million land deal, full moon or no? Would pasty titans of industry really be so eager to get sexy together? "Is it weird to look over and see like Newt Gingrich naked?"

We may never have an answer to these questions.

...

"Or maybe the noble thing is to switch off this mean mess of a show and turn on Friends."

Isto, dobra sprdačina, koja uključuje veliki broj preporuka drugih serija:

Why Don't People Stop Watching True Detective If They Hate It So Much?

Odgovor je, naravno, kratak i svodi se na ovo:

"If you really want laugh-out-loud funny, though, try season two of True Detective." 

opa!

https://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/3915890/ray_crow_painting_-_true_detective.0.jpg

http://youtu.be/axA2wQ2fJtk



Translation: "Do you think Ossip killed Caspere?"



Translation: ????!!?!??

QuoteTranslation: ????!!?!??

Mene podsetilo na majmune što bi random da kucaju pa napišu Šekspira.

! No longer available

takoe!

Heh.

Da li postoji išta na svetu što je derivat druge sezone Detektiva, a da je zanimljivije (i to čak duplo) od same serije?

Pa, postoji, naravno. Zove se Hollywood Prospectus Podcasts za grantland.com.

Baš sam se zabavio slušajući nekih dvadeset minuta o Molly speju, lošoj glumi Vinsa Vona, STENU , sceni drogiranja Kolina Farela i sceni orgijanja.

A da to zapravo veoma ima smisla i dozu zdravog humora. Za razliku od izvornog materijala.


http://youtu.be/7-SiYiHWO9I

I tako...

Ovaj sektas izgleda kao ra-ra-Raspucin.

Ko je manijak na slikama ispod?

Killer BOB iz Tvin Piksa.

Bob From David Lynch's 'Twin Peaks' Showed Up in 'True Detective'
More Lynch-play from Pizzolatto and his squad.

http://youtu.be/eghSAUjeD_k

sad mi još reci da si trezan gledo i prvu sezonu, kako si pao u mojim očima!

pa ovo je serija sa posebnim subplotom, koji se bavi samo alkoholom

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a27705/true-detective-drinking/

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/27/true_detectives_drink_a_comprehensive_list_of_all_the_booze_consumed_on_season_2/

realno

Rej Velkoro
Rast Koul
Lemi Motorhed

sto mjesta prazno

Cek, Lemi motorhed, a Dzimi  Meknolti?!?