ZNAK SAGITE — više od fantastike — edicija, časopis, knjižara...

A ovo nisam video u domaćoj štampi:


http://www.vecernji.hr/svijet/sad-i-rusija-prekrojit-ce-granice-sirije-i-iraka-1027013


SAD i Rusija prekrojit će granice Sirije i Iraka?
Assad dobiva manju, ali stabilnu zemlju, Kurdi napokon dobivaju državu, Iran širi utjecaj na šijitska područja, suniti dobivaju svoju veliku državu...

domaća štampa je pisala da će priznati ISIL, i možda dati Kurdima državu, no to više zavisi da li će Turska da im dopusti, jer njoj Kurdi ponajviše i smetaju

no, sve u svemu, šta će tačno biti to niko ne zna, sem generalne ''procjene'' s vrha SAD da će u narednih 30 godina nastati bar još toliko država na planeti, onako ''spontano''

to jest 250 zemalja do 2050. godine

Uber je pod teškom paljbom sa svih strana:


Uber Offices in Amsterdam Raided for Third Time This Year


London taxi hire proposals would 'be an end' to the way Uber operates


Rio de Janeiro mayor bans Uber, open to debating regulation



U Australiji će ga, pak, legalizovati:



World first: Uber to be legalised in Australia's capital



Možda ćemo za trideset godina pričati sa osmehom kako je teško bilo hrabroj, inovativnoj firmi da se izbori sa okoštalim monopolima klasičnih taksi-kompanija i kako je sreća da je volja naroda pobedila. A možda ćemo i grcati u nemaštini, u svetu bez stalnog radnog odnosa, bez stabilnih prihoda gde "share" ekonomija uglavnom znači da nikada ništa nećemo posedovatii da ćemo u potpunosti zavisiti od tržišta u svemu... Istorija nek pokaže!!!!!!!!!!!!

W.T.F.





School Board Settles With Families of Students Who Died After Being Hypnotized by Principal

QuoteThe families of three Florida students who died after being hypnotized by their then-principal will each receive $200,000 in a settlement with the school district.
The payout comes four years after former North Port High School Principal George Kenney hypnotized students Wesley McKinley, 16, Marcus Freeman, 16, and Brittany Palumbo, 17.
Though no explicit link tied the students' deaths to Kenney's hypnosis, the former principal admitted that he had hypnotized McKinley a day before the teenager killed himself in April 2011, the Herald-Tribune reported. Palumbo also took his life after being hypnotized.
Freeman died in a 2011 car accident after he hypnotized himself, a technique Kenney had taught him in order to help the quarterback concentrate and not worry about pain during games, according to court documents.
Read: Sheriff's Deputy Gently Cradles Baby Girl on the Side of the Road After Crash
The 16-year-old football player was killed when he veered off a highway as he drove home from a painful dentist visit, the Herald-Tribune wrote. His girlfriend, who was also in the car and survived, said that Freeman got a strange look on his face before he went off the road, the paper reported.
An investigation found that Kenney had hypnotized as many as 75 students, staff members and others from 2006 until McKinley's death. One student athlete recalled being hypnotized as many as 40 times to improve his concentration, the Herald-Tribune wrote.


Kenney was placed on administrative leave from North Port High School in 2011 and he resigned in 2012. He served one year of probation after pleading no contest to unlawful practice and was prohibited from practicing hypnosis without a license at the time.
The Sarasota County School District's Board unanimously approved the settlement with a 4-0 vote on Tuesday, which will pay out a total of $600,000 to the three students' families. The settlement was approved a week before the parents' civil case against the district would have gone to trial.
Read: Baby Reportedly Chokes to Death After His Mom Dies While Feeding Him
"It's something they will never get over," Damian Mallard, an attorney representing the three students' families, told the Herald-Tribune. "It's probably the worst loss that can happen to a parent is to lose a child, especially needlessly because you had someone who decided to perform medical services on kids without a license. He altered the underdeveloped brains of teenagers, and they all ended up dead because of it."
Kenney gave up his teaching license in 2013 under pressure from the Florida Department of Education and cannot reapply for another, the Herald-Tribune noted. He now apparently operates a bed-and-breakfast in North Carolina.
"The thing that is the most disappointing to them is that he never apologized, never admitted wrongdoing and is now living comfortably in retirement in North Carolina with his pension," Mallard reportedly said.

dok je sagita usplamtela oko toga dal je zelić preko veze objavio slabu priču u političarskom zabavniku, brisel doslovno GORI!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2824057/Brussels-burns-100-000-protesters-clash-police-march-against-EU-austerity-measures.html

To jest, goreo je, pre jedanaest meseci kad je ova vest objavljena?

(Da ne pominjemo da su protesti bili protiv nove, desničarske vlade, ne protiv mera štednje EU, kako piše u pogrešnom naslovu. Al to je Dejli mejl...)

jbg. ja rekoh da skrenem pažnju s jedne vatre na drugu - a ono ispade da je druga davno zgasla...

Ma, lako je bilo prevariti se jer su prekjuče zaista bile 80-100.000 strong demonstracije u Briselu protiv mera štednje koje je policija na kraju rasterivala vodenim topovima. Tako da, honest mistake.

Nego, wikileaks se dočepao finalne verzije transpacifičkog sporazuma i... stvari nisu sjajne. Naravno, nas ovo pogađa utoliko što se transatlantski sporazum, pominjali smo, priprema u sličnoj atmosferi konspiracije, daleko od očiju javnosti i razumno je sumnjati da će i on biti prepun odrednica koje će korporacijama davati prednost nad državama,a pogotovo nad građanima...



  The Final Leaked TPP Text is All That We Feared

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   Today's release by Wikileaks of what is believed to be the current and essentially final version of the intellectual property (IP) chapter of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) confirms our worst fears about the agreement, and dashes the few hopes that we held out that its most onerous provisions wouldn't survive to the end of the negotiations.
Since we now have the agreed text, we'll be including some paragraph references that you can cross-reference for yourself—but be aware that some of them contain placeholders like "x" that may change in the cleaned-up text. Also, our analysis here is limited to the copyright and Internet-related provisions of the chapter, but analyses of the impacts of other parts of the chapter have been published by Wikileaks and others.
Binding Rules for Rightsholders, Soft Guidelines for Users If you skim the chapter without knowing what you're looking for, it may come across as being quite balanced, including references to the need for IP rules to further the "mutual advantage of producers and users" (QQ.A.X), to "facilitate the diffusion of information" (QQ.A.Z), and recognizing the "importance of a rich and accessible public domain" (QQ.B.x). But that's how it's meant to look, and taking this at face value would be a big mistake.
If you dig deeper, you'll notice that all of the provisions that recognize the rights of the public are non-binding, whereas almost everything that benefits rightsholders is binding. That paragraph on the public domain, for example, used to be much stronger in the first leaked draft, with specific obligations to identify, preserve and promote access to public domain material. All of that has now been lost in favor of a feeble, feel-good platitude that imposes no concrete obligations on the TPP parties whatsoever.
Another, and perhaps the most egregious example of this bias against users is the important provision on limitations and exceptions to copyright (QQ.G.17). In a pitifully ineffectual nod towards users, it suggests that parties "endeavor to achieve an appropriate balance in its copyright and related rights system," but imposes no hard obligations for them to do so, nor even offers U.S.-style fair use as a template that they might follow. The fact that even big tech was ultimately unable to move the USTR on this issue speaks volumes about how utterly captured by Hollywood the agency is.
Expansion of Copyright Terms Perhaps the biggest overall defeat for users is the extension of the copyright term to life plus 70 years (QQ.G.6), despite a broad consensus that this makes no economic sense, and simply amounts to a transfer of wealth from users to large, rights-holding corporations. The extension will make life more difficult for libraries and archives, for journalists, and for ordinary users seeking to make use of works from long-dead authors that rightfully belong in the public domain.
Could it have been worse? In fact, yes it could have; we were spared a 120 year copyright term for corporate works, as earlier drafts foreshadowed. In the end corporate works are to be protected for 70 years after publication or performance, or if they are not published within 25 years after they were created, for 70 years after their creation. This could make a big difference in practice. It means that the film Casablanca, probably protected in the United States until 2038, would already be in the public domain in other TPP countries, even under a life plus 70 year copyright term.
New to the latest text are the transition periods in Section J, which allow some countries a longer period for complying with some of their obligations, including copyright term. For example, Malaysia has been allowed two years to extend its copyright term to life plus 70 years. For Vietnam, the transition period is five years. New Zealand is the country receiving the most "generous" allowance; its term will increase to life plus 60 years initially, rising to the full life plus 70 year term within eight years. Yet Canada, on the other hand, has not been given any transition period at all.
Ban on Circumventing Digital Rights Management (DRM) The provisions in QQ.G.10 that prohibit the circumvention of DRM or the supply of devices for doing so are little changed from earlier drafts, other than that the opposition of some countries to the most onerous provisions of those drafts was evidently to no avail. For example, Chile earlier opposed the provision that the offense of DRM circumvention is to be "independent of any infringement that might occur under the Party's law on copyright and related rights," yet the final text includes just that requirement.
The odd effect of this is that someone tinkering with a file or device that contains a copyrighted work can be made liable (criminally so, if wilfullness and a commercial motive can be shown), for doing so even when no copyright infringement is committed. Although the TPP text does allow countries to pass exceptions that allow DRM circumvention for non-infringing uses, such exceptions are not mandatory, as they ought to be.
The parties' flexibility to allow DRM circumvention also requires them to consider whether rightsholders have already taken measures to allow those non-infringing uses to be made. This might mean that rightsholders will rely on the walled-garden sharing capabilities built in to their DRM systems, such as Ultraviolet, to oppose users being granted broader rights to circumvent DRM.
Alongside the prohibition on circumvention of DRM is a similar prohibition (QQ.G.13) on the removal of rights management information, with equivalent civil and criminal penalties. Since this offense is, once again, independent of the infringement of copyright, it could implicate a user who crops out an identifying watermark from an image, even if they are using that image for fair use purposes and even if they otherwise provide attribution of the original author by some other means.
The distribution of devices for decrypting encrypted satellite and cable signals is also separately proscribed (QQ.H.9), posing a further hazard to hackers wishing to experiment with or to repurpose broadcast media.
Criminal Enforcement and Civil Damages On damages, the text (QQ.H.4) remains as bad as ever: rightsholders can submit "any legitimate measure of value" to a judicial authority for determination of damages, including the suggested retail price of infringing goods. Additionally, judges must have the power to order pre-established damages (at the rightsholder's election), or additional damages, each of which may go beyond compensating the rightsholder for its actual loss, and thereby create a disproportionate chilling effect for users and innovators.
No exception to these damages provisions is made in cases where the rightsholder cannot be found after a diligent search, which puts the kibosh on ideas for the introduction of an orphan works regime that would cap remedies available against those who reproduce these otherwise-unavailable works.
One of the scariest parts of the TPP is that not only can you be made liable to fines and criminal penalties, but that any materials and implements used in the creation of infringing copies can also be destroyed (QQ.H.4(12)). The same applies to devices and products used for circumventing DRM or removing rights management information (QQ.H.4(17)). Because multi-use devices such as computers are used for a diverse range of purposes, this is once again a disproportionate penalty. This could lead to a family's home computer becoming seized simply because of its use in sharing files online, or for ripping Blu-Ray movies to a media center.
In some cases (QQ.H.7), the penalties for copyright infringement can even include jail time. Traditionally, this has because the infringer is operating a business of commercial piracy. But under the TPP, any act of willful copyright infringement on a commercial scale renders the infringer liable to criminal penalties, even if they were not carried out for financial gain, provided that they have a substantial prejudicial impact on the rightsholder. The copying of films that are still playing in movie theaters is also subject to separate criminal penalties, regardless of the scale of the infringement.
Trade Secrets The severity of the earlier language on trade secrets protection has not been abated in the final text. It continues to criminalize those who gain "unauthorized, willful access to a trade secret held in a computer system," without any mandatory exception for cases where the information is accessed or disclosed in the public interest, such as by investigative journalists or whistleblowers.
There is no evident explanation for the differential treatment given to trade secrets accessed or misappropriated by means of a computer system, as opposed to by other means; but it is no surprise to find the U.S. pushing such a technophobic provision, which mirrors equivalent provisions of U.S. law that have been used to persecute hackers for offenses that would otherwise have been considered much more minor.
Top-Down Control of the Internet ICANN, the global domain name authority, provoked a furore earlier this year over proposals that could limit the ability for owners of domain names to shield their personal information from copyright and trademark trolls, identity thieves, scammers and harassers.
The TPP has just ridden roughshod over that entire debate (at least for country-code top-level domains such as .us, .au and .jp), by cementing in place rules (QQ.C.12) that countries must provide "online public access to a reliable and accurate database of contact information concerning domain-name registrants."
The same provision also requires countries to adopt an equivalent to ICANN's flawed Uniform Domain-Name Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP), despite the fact that this controversial policy is overdue for a formal review by ICANN, which might result in the significant revision of this policy. Where would this leave the TPP countries, that are locked in to upholding a UDRP-like policy for their own domains for the indefinite future?
The TPP's prescription of rules for domain names completely disregards the fact that most country code domain registries have their own, open, community-driven processes for determining rules for managing domain name disputes. More than that, this top-down rulemaking on domain names is in direct contravention of the U.S. administration's own firmly-stated commitment to uphold the multi-stakeholder model of Internet governance. Obviously, Internet users cannot trust the administration that it means what it says when it gives lip-service to multi-stakeholder governance—and that has ramifications that go even even deeper than this terrible TPP deal.
ISP Liability The provisions on ISP liability (Appendix Section I), as we previously found in the last leaked text, are not quite as permissive as we hoped. It will still require most countries to adopt a version of the flawed U.S. DMCA notice-and-takedown system, albeit with a few safeguards such as penalties for those who issue wrongful takedown notices, and allowing (but not requiring) a Japanese-style system of verification of takedown notices by an independent body of ISPs and rightsholders.
It is true that Canada's notice-and-notice regime is also allowed, but effectively only for Canada—no other country that did not have an equivalent system as of the date of the agreement is allowed to benefit from that flexibility. Even in Canada's case, this largesse is only afforded because of the other enforcement measures that rightsholders enjoy there—such as a tough regime of secondary liability for authorization of copyright infringement.
Similarly Chile's system under which ISPs are not required to take down content without a judicial order is explicitly grandfathered in, but no other country joining the TPP in the future will be allowed to have a similar system.
In addition, although there is no explicit requirement for a graduated response regime of copyright penalties against users, ISPs are still roped in as copyright enforcers with the vague requirement (Appendix Section 1) that they be given "legal incentives...to cooperate with copyright owners to deter the unauthorized storage and transmission of copyrighted materials or, in the alternative, to take other action to deter the unauthorized storage and transmission of copyright materials".
Good Points? Quite honestly there are no parts of this agreement that are positively good for users. Of course, that doesn't mean that it's not improved over the earlier, horrendous demands of the U.S. negotiators. Some of the areas in which countries rightly pushed back against the U.S., and which are reflected in the final text are:

   
• The exhaustion of rights provision (QQ.A.11) that upholds the first sale doctrine of U.S. law, preventing copyright owners from extending their control over the resale of copyright works once they have first been placed in the market. In particular, this makes parallel importation of cheaper versions of copyright works lawful—and complementing this is an explicit authorization of devices that bypass region-coding on physical copies of such works (QQ.G.10, though this does not extend to bypassing geoblocking of streaming services).
• A thoroughly-misguided provision that would have extended copyright protection to temporary or "buffer" copies in a computer system was one of the earliest rightsholder demands dropped by the USTR, and rightfully so, given the damage this would have wreaked to tech companies and users alike.

But we have struggled to come up with more than two positive points about the TPP, and even then the absence of these tragic mistakes is a pretty poor example of a positive point. If you look for provisions in the TPP that actually afford new benefits to users, rather than to large, rights-holding corporations, you will look in vain. The TPP is the archetype of an agreement that exists only for the benefit of the entitled, politically powerfully lobbyists who have pushed it through to completion over the last eight years.
There is nothing in here for users and innovators to support, and much for us to fear—the ratcheting up of the copyright term across the Pacific rim, the punitive sanctions for DRM circumvention, and the full frontal attack on hackers and journalists in the trade secrets provision, just to mention three. This latest leak has confirmed our greatest fears—and strengthened our resolve to kill this agreement for good once it reaches Congress.
   

Masked Man Kills Teacher And Pupil With Sword

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A sword-wielding masked attacker has killed a teacher and a pupil and seriously injured two others at a school in western Sweden.
A picture has emerged of what local media claims is the assailant posing for pictures with pupils shortly before the attack.

He is carrying a sword and dressed in a black trench coat, mask and helmet.

The 21-year-old suspect, who was shot by police at the scene, has since died in hospital.

Police said they were called to reports of a masked attacker in the cafe area of the Kronan school in Trollhattan, north of Sweden's second-largest city Gothenburg shortly after 10am local time.

The male teacher was pronounced dead at the scene, while another teacher and two pupils, boys aged 11 and 15, were found with severe injuries.

It is not yet clear which of the two boys also died a short time later in hospital.

Terrifying accounts of the attack reveal that many of the pupils had initially assumed the killer was dressed up for Halloween.

"We thought it was a joke, some sort of a Halloween prank but it wasn't," 14-year-old Edona said.

She said she realised what was happening when other pupils around her started to cry and panic.

A pupil, who did not wish to reveal her name, told Sweden's Aftonbladet newspaper he had been playing strange Halloween music and did not speak.

Another told Sweden's English-speaking news site The Local he was forced to run from the attacker after his teacher was stabbed in front of him.

"The murderer started chasing me, I ran into another classroom," he said.

"If I had not run, I would have been murdered. I'm feeling really scared. Everyone's scared here."

According to police, the attacker knocked on the doors of two classrooms and stabbed those who opened them.

He was carrying more than one weapon, including "at least one knife-like object".

Police said they were able to follow a "trail of blood" around the school building to find the attacker..

Officers then fired two shots, one of which hit him in the chest.

An initial search of the suspect's Trollhattan home has uncovered items "that are interesting for the investigation," spokesman Thord Haraldsson said. He did not elaborate on what those items may be.

Police have not given any details about a possible motive, however, Swedish media is reporting that the suspect, who has not officially been named, had expressed far-right sympathies online.

It is not yet known whether he had any ties to the school.

Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Lofven, who immediately travelled to the scene of the attack, has said today is a "black day" for Sweden.

Speaking outside the school, Mr Lofven said it "is a tragedy that hits the entire country."

In a statement, King Carl XVI Gustaf said Sweden was "in shock" and that the royal family received the news "with great dismay and sadness."

Some 400 pupils, ranging from pre-school to high school, attend the Kronan school.

zabraniti fentezi. samo sf.

Ovo smo zaboravili da notiramo:

  China ends one-child policy after 35 years

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Government to allow all couples to have two children as 'response to an ageing population' and amid concerns over economy

China has scrapped its one-child policy, allowing all couples to have two children for the first time since draconian family planning rules were introduced more than three decades ago.


The announcement followed a four-day Communist party summit in Beijing where China's top leaders debated financial reforms and how to maintain growth at a time of heightened concerns about the economy.

China will "fully implement a policy of allowing each couple to have two children as an active response to an ageing population", the party said in a statement published by Xinhua, the official news agency. "The change of policy is intended to balance population development and address the challenge of an ageing population,"

Some celebrated the move as a positive step towards greater personal freedom in China. But human rights activists and critics said the loosening – which means the Communist party continues to control the size of Chinese families – did not go far enough.


"The state has no business regulating how many children people have," said William Nee, a Hong Kong-based activist for Amnesty International.
"If China is serious about respecting human rights, the government should immediately end such invasive and punitive controls over people's decisions to plan families and have children."

For months there has been speculation that Beijing was preparing to abandon the divisive family planning rule, which was introduced in 1980 because of fears of a population boom.

Demographers in and outside China have long warned that its low fertility rate – which experts say lies somewhere between 1.2 and 1.5 children a woman – was driving the country towards a demographic crisis.

Since 2013, there has been a gradual relaxation of China's family planning laws that already allowed minority ethnic families and rural couples whose firstborn was a girl to have more than one child.

Thursday's announcement that all couples would be allowed two children caught many experts by surprise.

"I'm shaking to be honest," said Stuart Gietel-Basten, an University of Oxford demographer who has argued for the end of the one-child policy. "It's one of those things that you have been working on and saying for years and recommending they should do something and it finally happened. It's just a bit of a shock."
The Communist party credits the policy with preventing 400m births, thus contributing to China's dramatic economic takeoff since the 1980s.

But the human toll has been immense, with forced sterilisations, infanticide and sex-selective abortions that have caused a dramatic gender imbalance that means millions of men will never find female partners.

"The gender imbalance is going to be a very major problem," warned Steve Tsang, a professor of contemporary Chinese studies at the University of Nottingham. "We are talking about between 20 million and 30 million young men who are not going to be able to find a wife. That creates social problems and that creates a huge number of people who are frustrated."

History showed that countries with a very large number of unmarried men of military age were more likely to pursue aggressive, militarist foreign policy initiatives, Tsang said.

In one of the most shocking recent cases of human rights abuses related to the once-child policy, a woman who was seven months pregnant was abducted by family planning officials in Shaanxi province in 2012 and forced to have an abortion.

Opponents say the policy has created a demographic "timebomb", with China's 1.3 billion-strong population ageing rapidly, and the country's labour pool shrinking. The UN estimates that by 2050 China will have about 440 millionpeople over 60. The working-age population – those between 15 and 59 – fell by 3.71 million last year, a trend that is expected to continue.
There were no immediate details on how or when China's new "two-child policy" would be implemented. But Gietel-Basten said the policy change was good news for both China's people and its leaders, who stood to gain from ending a highly unpopular rule.


"From a political, pragmatic perspective, loosening the policy is good for the party but also it is a good thing for individual couples who want to have that second child. It is a kind of win-win for everybody," he said.

"Millions of ordinary Chinese couples will be allowed to have a second child if they want to – this is clearly a very positive thing."

Experts said the relaxation of family planning rules is unlikely to have a lasting demographic impact, particularly in urban areas where couples were now reluctant to have two children because of the high cost.

"Just because the government says you can have another child, it doesn't mean the people will immediately follow," said Liang Zhongtang, a demographer at the Shanghai Academy of Social Science.

Gietel-Basten said: "In the short term, probably there will be a little baby boom particularly in some of the poorer provinces where the rules have been very strict, like in Sichuan or in parts of the south. But in the long term I don't think it's going to make an enormous amount of difference."


Dai Qing, a Chinese writer who has publicly called for all family planning rules to be scrapped, said the announcement was a positive step.

"It shows that the authorities have understood the changes in the total population and the demographic structure and started to address them," she said.

But Dai said questions remained, particularly about how Beijing would enforce its new two-child policy.

"Even if people are allowed to have two children, what if they want to have three children or more? What if unmarried women want to have their own children? At the end of the day, it's about women's reproductive rights and freedoms."
Others expressed concern that the announcement of the new two-child policy, which referred to Chinese couples, suggested children born outside of wedlock would continue to be penalised by the government.

Liang called on the Communist party to completely dismantle its unpopular and outdated family planning rules.

"I think they should abolish the family planning [system] once for all and let people decide how many children they want to have. Only that way can they straighten out their relationship with the people."


But Gietel-Basten said it would have been virtually unthinkable for Beijing to completely abandon its family planning rules.

"That would in some ways imply that the policy was wrong ... which of course would be a smack in the face of the last two generations of policymakers who stuck by it," he said.

"Getting rid of it completely probably wasn't an option in the short term. But in the long term it's certainly not inconceivable that they would move towards a pronatalist policy at some point, maybe over the next five or 10 years, and that they would develop policies similar to in Korea or in Taiwan, or in Hong Kong or in Singapore, where there would be incentives for couples with one child to have a second child. I certainly think that is the future direction it [policy] is likely to go in."
As news that the notorious policy was coming to an end spread on Thursday, Chinese citizens celebrated on social media, while also lamenting how long change had taken to arrive.

Some government critics expressed their contempt for the policy by altering photographs of the red Communist party propaganda banners that adorn towns and villages across China urging residents to obey family planning rules.

"We reward families with two children and fine those with only one," read one spoof poster mocking Beijing's change of heart. "Those who decide not to have children or who are infertile should be thrown in jail."

First 'KFC' to open in Iran shut down after 24 hours for being too American

Vidite li šta se dogadja u Parizu? Pre par minuta sasvim slučajno naletim na vest o pucnjavi, eksplozijama i 40 mrtvih.

http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/606208/HAOS-U-PARIZU-U-pucnjavama-i-eksplozijama-najmanje-60-mrtvih-talacka-kriza-na-koncertu

jbg, terorizam, svete se za bombardovanje...
jbt, centar grada...

Sad već kažu "najmanje 140 mrtvih".

Najnovije informacije

Stopedesettroje u ovom trenutku. Petak trinaesti indeed. Strašno.

Sa Tvitera:

Zack Stentz ‏@MuseZack 2h2 hours ago
The same disgusting group behind the Paris slaughter murdered scores of Arab Muslims yesterday in Beirut & Baghdad. We're in this together.


Andrew Hibbard ‏@andrewhibbard 5h5 hours ago
Andrew Hibbard Retweeted WikiLeaks
To paraphrase this ISIS document - 'Make Western governments turn against their Muslim citizens so they come to us.'
Andrew Hibbard added,
WikiLeaks @wikileaks
ISIS strategy in France: Provoke a crackdown on Muslims to "Eliminate the Grayzone" https://archive.is/VE0jj#selection-459.1-463.388 ... #ParisAttacks #AttaquesParis


I ovo iz Gibsonovog Spook Countryja

Proletos bila u Parizu. Nemam baš želju da se vratim. Atmosfera nasilja nadvijena je nad celim gradom, uključujući i sam centar. Osećaj naduvanog balona u vazduhu, koji samo što ne pukne - konstantan. I evo, puca.

Zastrasujuce, jadni ljudi. RIP

Bila u gradu sinoc i slucajno cujem nekog decka da pominje napade, izvadimo telefone i zbilja, sokantno. Animozitet prema muslimanima ce dodatno porasti, a ocekujem i neke pojedinacne odmazde, napade na muslimane, obican svet.
Mada, ovi teroristi su born and raised, to dodatno sokira, da su to zapravo Francuzi koji ubijaju svoje sunarodnike.

Inace, trebalo bi uskoro da putujemo tamo. Fak.

u parizu sam bio prije 15 godina
sigurnije sam se osjecao u sarajevu u ratu 1992

to se mora dozivjeti kad horda od 40 malih alziraca ide ulicom...racije za novu godinu
ma uzas
pravi mix megalopolis svega i svacega

http://akademskikrug.rs/zaboravljeno-prijateljstvo-francuske-i-srbije/

Viktor Igo je rekao da ,, [...] vlade sve vide kroz kratkovidost državnog razloga "..... Da li i mi danas zbog iste te kratkovidisti ne vidimo da su žrtve žrtve a teror teror..... i da neko može zakucati i na naša vrata zbog odluka naše vlade a ne nas samih...

Quote from: AgotaDa li i mi danas zbog iste te kratkovidisti ne vidimo da su žrtve žrtve a teror teror

Mislim da to vide svi koji imaju oči da vide, no brainer. Nisam stekla utisak da se sad nešto hejtuju Francuzi - štaviše, ali...ja nisam na fb-u pa možda nemam pravi uvid.

Slušala sam emisiju na B92 i dopalo mi se kako govore Slobodan Zečević i Božo Prelević. Obojica su bili realni i racionalni. U ovoj se priči provlači jedna nit licemerja vlada, i svetske javnosti - kako se reagovalo na eksploziju ruskog aviona i ovo sad, npr. Drastično drugačije. Što se tiče prijateljstva, pa nisu se baš ubili od podrške Srbiji, već jako dugo.

Evo ilustracije licemerja:

Meanwhile, in Beirut Sasvim slučajno čula za ovo, to se ne pominje.

Da, da moj post je upravo inspirisan komentarima na fejsu, I slicnim mrezama.I upotrebom nekih dogadjaja iz proslosti da bi se opravdala sadasnja apatija....odnosila se ona na Pariz ili Bejrut... Strasno je sta nam mediji serviraju ali svako misaono bice bi da trebalo da osudi svaki oblik agresije...I donekle jeste normalno da mi u Evropi osecamo sa vecim intenzitetom dogadjaje odavde mada nikako ne smemo zatvarati oci I nad nesrecom van naseg dvorista pogotovo sto tu ima velike krivice danasnjih imperijalistickih sila.
http://www.portalnovosti.com/svjetla-se-gase-u-evropi

Pa da, u pravu si. Rečju, Amerika namestila krevet i sad Evropa leže u njega.

Tako je! To je to...

KAKVA TRAGIKOMENDIJA!

Otmičari Srba pomešali Srbiju i Ukrajinu?

Službenici srpske ambasade u Libiji Slađana Stanković i Jovica Janjić oteti su greškom, nezvanično saznaju "Večernje novosti".

IZVOR: VEČERNJE NOVOSTI
PETAK, 13.11.2015. | 09:37
   

Paravojna formacija iz Sabrate koja je kidnapovala ovo dvoje optužila je Srbiju da je pre izvesnog vremena uhapsila njihove članove u našoj zemlji.

U zamenu za puštanje, traže njihovo oslobađanje, ali tu, međutim, nastaje zaplet, saznalo se da su Libijci, čije oslobađanje traže kidnaperi, uhapšeni u Ukrajini.

Pregovori sa otmičarima neprekidno traju, jer naša zemlja ulaže maksimalne napore da, preko vlasti u Sabrati, uveri kidnapere da njihovi ljudi nisu zatočeni u Srbiji.

U pregovore, prema nezvaničnim saznanjima "Večernjih novosti", svakog časa treba da se uključe i druge obaveštajne službe koje deluju u Libiji. Očekuje se i pomoć od Rusije i Ukrajine, kako bi istina izbila na videlo.

"Naši operativci i sekretar Ministarstva spoljnih poslova Veljko Odalović su na licu mesta i razgovaraju sa Većem bezbednosti u Sabrati, ali i s libijskim vlastima. Libijski zvaničnici su pak, preko nekih ljudi, u kontaktu sa kidnaperima. Otmičari traže od Srbije da pustimo njihove saborce i rođake u zamenu za ovo dvoje. Ti Libijci su, međutim, u ukrajinskom zatvoru. Srbiji su sada vezane ruke. Jer nemamo veze sa celom situacijom, a zbog toga su kidnapovani naši građani", nezvanično saznaje beogradski list.

Iz tog razloga su na put i krenuli srpski obaveštajci i sekretar MSP. Otmičari nisu poverovali uveravanjima našeg ambasadora Olivera Potežice da Libijci koje traže nisu kod nas.

"Grupa koja je otela Slađanu i Jovicu sada pokušava da, preko Srbije, od Ukrajine izdejstvuje puštanje zemljaka. Situacija je vrlo komplikovana. Mnogo je ljudi uključeno u oslobađanje naših ljudi i nadamo se najboljem. Znamo da su oni živi i da ih ne maltretiraju. To je, zasad, najbitnije", kaže sagovornik "Večernjih novosti".

Srpski bezbednjaci i Odalović obišli su juče i mesto kidnapovanja Slađane Stanković i Jovice Stepića pre šest dana na izlazu iz grada Sabrata. Kolona sa tri vozila, u kojoj je bio ambasador sa porodicom, krenula je iz Tripolija za Tunis. Napadači su svojim vozilom preprečili put koloni, a potom iz jednog automobila izvukli Slađanu Stanković i Jovicu Stepića.

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2015&mm=11&dd=13&nav_category=16&nav_id=1062544

Salon ima opširan tekst na aktuelnu temu:

Our terrorism double standard: After Paris, let's stop blaming Muslims and take a hard look at ourselves


Pa, iako ovakvi tekstovi nama deluju kao da su sastavljeni od suhih truizama, treba videti kako je na ovo u Parizu reagovala Ann Coulter da bi smo se podsetili zašto je te truzime potrebno stalno ponavljati:

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/260155-coulter-after-paris-attacks-trump-was-elected-president-tonight

Mislim da će se Evropa morati prilagoditi novoj realnosti, životu poput onog u Izraelu. Ljudi će postati svesni toga i moraće se prilagoditi tome da u svakom trenutku mogu da dožive teroristički napad. Nema više apsolutno bezbednih, nigde i niko.
Drugo što se pitam, govore li vlade svojim građanima istinu?Da li je francuska vlada objasnila svojim građanima npr.zašto je izvela vojnu intervenciju u Libiji, s kojim ciljem i povodom, šta je s njome postigla, i koje su posledice iste?Da li ljudi tamo postavljaju ta pitanja, vodi li se ikakva debata?
Postoji ogromni nesklad između unutrašnje i spoljne politike Zapada. Definitivno u unutrašnjoj politici jesu dosegnuti standardi,slobode, prava kakvih nema u drugim delovima sveta(a pogotovo islamskim), ali u spoljnoj politici se i dalje istupa imperijalistički, kolonijalno, neokolonijalno. Ljudi se čude zašto nas napadaju, mi smo tolearntno, demokratsko društvo, itd. Da-unutra možda i jeste tako, ali vaši avioni bombarduju i razaraju nečiju tuđu zemlju?Ne može argument biti ,,šta hoće ti iz Alžira, ako im se ne sviđa Francuska neka idu kući''.Ne može, jer je ta Francuska bila u njihovoj kući i svašta radila, a nisam baš siguran da je domaćina pitala za dozvolu kako da se ponaša u njegovoj kući.

Evropi, se ne piše dobro...najgore je što će sad ojačati neonacisti, koji se predstavljaju kao nacionalisti i patriote... ono što je Dybuk  lepo pojasnila "Animozitet prema muslimanima ce dodatno porasti, a ocekujem i neke pojedinacne odmazde, napade na muslimane, obican svet."

Quote from: Dybuk on 14-11-2015, 11:58:41
Mada, ovi teroristi su born and raised, to dodatno sokira, da su to zapravo Francuzi koji ubijaju svoje sunarodnike.

ma, sve je pametno rekla...

Quote from: Agota on 15-11-2015, 11:39:43
najgore je što će sad ojačati neonacisti, koji se predstavljaju kao nacionalisti i patriote...

Ah? To će se kod njih tek desiti? Baš ozbiljno kaskaju za Balkanom...

Da, to je vrlo verovatan scenario. Na kraju, trljaće ruke i islamisti i nacisti.
A moguće je i da će nastati neke varijante policijsko totalitarne države.
Ja ne znam kako uopšte sprečiti te napade. Letos dok sam bio u Rimu, na njihovim(italijanskim)vestima bilo je najava o mogućim napadima u decembru na Rim, i kako je i Italija u opasnosti. Kraj Piazza di Trevi znalo je biti jedno policijsko vozilo, ali ti ljudi su bili tu više za ukras, ono turisti se slikaju i pozdravljaju s njima. Uličice pored , u kojima su restorani, su uske i gomila ljudi što sedi, što stalno prolazi. Jedan naoružan čovek može napraviti tamo pokolj, bukvalno za tridesetak sekundi, ne mora ni da nišani, gde god usmeri cev, pogodiće nekog. Kako to zaštititi, i koliko je takvih mesta u Evropi, koliko treba kamera, policije,policije u civilu, da to zaštiti?

svako mesto je target, uzmi pijacu u firenci, i eto ti...

edit: Mislim, da mi nećemo biti generacija, koja nije doživela rat....ma gde se nalazili

(15) i (18) god braća, ovi što su se razneli, i još jedan što je došao iz sirije( 29 ) pa isprani mozgovi 

Quote from: Anomander Rejk on 15-11-2015, 11:52:13
Kako to zaštititi, i koliko je takvih mesta u Evropi, koliko treba kamera, policije,policije u civilu, da to zaštiti?

To se rešava automatikom. Masivni nadzor kamerama na mestima gde je redovno masa ljudi, prepoznavanje lica (turistima se čuvaju slike sa pasoša u bazi), prepoznavanje sumnjivog ponašanja, detekcija metala na daljinu, pretresanje sumnjivih, i na samom kraju sistem za precizno neutralisanje, nekakvi dronovi koji uglavnom stoje pričvršćeni na vrhovima zgrada, ali u sekundi nanišane tamo gde treba i ispale šta treba onda kada treba. Dežurni snajperi.

Ovo poslednje je već fašistički SF, i nešto što raja neće prihvatiti sve dok kritična glasačka masa ne oseti lični gubitak. Raji će bolje biti da smanji imperijalnu politiku, umesto da odobri ovako nešto. Ali ako je zamislivo onda je i ostvarivo, i postoji verovatnoća i da će to neko jednom i napraviti.

Quote from: Agota on 15-11-2015, 13:05:42
(15) i (18) god braća, ovi što su se razneli, i još jedan što je došao iz sirije( 29 ) pa isprani mozgovi 

Sve klinci, uzas. Ali kad pogledas to je i logicno, njima je najlakse manipulisati. Ali jedno je da nesto divljas i hejtujes a drugo da ubijas i na kraju samorazneses. Ne razumem, uopste. Pa zar toliko tesko zive, zar se toliko osecaju kao gradjani 2. reda? Ne postoji racionalno objasnjenje iza pristupanja ID.

Ovi scenariji policijske drzave, to mi zvuci jezivo, potpuno. Mislim i Amerika je iskoristila najn ileven da dodatno ojaca nadzor (tad je i nastao homeland security?) tako ce biti i s Francuskom, bez obzira sto rece Srbljanovicka da Francuzi ne ljube lance...

Ne, ne, gubimo iz vida big pikčr: ovako nešto se ne sprečava kamerama u Rimu i žandarmima u Parizu. Sprečava se pomaganjem izgradnje stabilnijih društava u severnoj Africi i istočnoj Aziji, dakle smanjenjem korupcije (koju zapad često potpomaže ili prihvata kao datost), saradnjom sa liderima čak i ako vam nisu trenutni politički i strateški favorit, insistiranjem na institucionalnom utemeljenju svih vidova komunikacije i razmene, investicijama koje su zanovane na ravnopravnosti  itd. Sve ostalo je gašenje požara vodenim pištoljem.

Pa to, ako Zapad bude vodio bitku protiv terorizma iskljucivo kod kuce moze samo da izgubi...

Za pocetak trebalo bi da pojedu govno i priznaju da su se olupali u pokusajima da "bezbedno" skinu Asada i da prihvate da je ISIS glavni neprijatelj, samim tim i da priznaju Ruse kao saveznike.

A ISIS treba lupiti i po novcaniku, ljudi prodaju naftu na veliko, ne rade to direktno, mislim da su neki Turci posrednici ali ipak ne verujum da ti kupci ne znaju odakle ta nafta potice, treba prekinuti te tokove...

Ne mogu da priznaju Ruse kao saveznike. Pa oni su Asada i rušili zbog Rusa. Za Amere fundamentalisti nisu neprijatelj nego alat. Oni kad bi hteli da ih počiste oni bi ih i počistili.

Mda, mac je u pravu.

Bas pre neki dan naletim na komentar nekog Britanca koga vise brine ruski monopol na gas u Evropi nego ID. Kao, kad Rusi zbrisu ISIS kuku nama. 

Ja sam Ruse i pocela da gotivim zbog te neverovatne rusofobije zapadnog sveta. A garantujem da Ameri zele jednog Putina na celu svoje drzave.

Pa onda nista, cekamo novi Pariz, samo je pitanje gde i kada...

imaš i likove koji tvrde da je Koštunjavi prodo NIS Rusima da Srbija nikad ne bi ušla u EU

Quote from: D.' on 14-11-2015, 09:53:59
Proletos bila u Parizu. Nemam baš želju da se vratim. Atmosfera nasilja nadvijena je nad celim gradom, uključujući i sam centar. Osećaj naduvanog balona u vazduhu, koji samo što ne pukne - konstantan. I evo, puca.

Realizam.  Bio i ja lane i isti osećaj sam imao dok sam hodao ulicama. Uđem ja da kupim kebab i pitam pošteno pošto običan kebab majstore. On kaže 10 eur. Pogledam krajičkom oka cenovnik, ono 5 eur. Drugi kaže, šta je englezu mnogo a? Ja mu rek'o ma nije mnogo, 5 eur je ok. Očekivao sam da se nasmeju ali sve što sam osetio jeste neki dubok prezir i ni  trag osmeha. 

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 15-11-2015, 13:32:31

Sprečava se pomaganjem izgradnje stabilnijih društava u severnoj Africi i istočnoj Aziji, dakle smanjenjem korupcije (koju zapad često potpomaže ili prihvata kao datost), saradnjom sa liderima čak i ako vam nisu trenutni politički i strateški favorit, insistiranjem na institucionalnom utemeljenju svih vidova komunikacije i razmene, investicijama koje su zanovane na ravnopravnosti  itd.

Bajka. Kada je bilo koja država koja podržava imperijalizam to radila. Bilo bi lepo da se konj ne mora u G ali bilo bi lepo i da Bobi Fišer nije Amer. Jednostavno, Francuzi otvoreno učestvuju u ratnim opercijama u drugim državama čiji pripadnici žive u milionima u Franuskoj i za očekivati je da im je lakše da se logistički podupru i komuniciraju taktike i prave sranja tu gde su kao kod kuće.

Quote from: Dybuk on 15-11-2015, 13:31:10
Sve klinci, uzas. Ali kad pogledas to je i logicno, njima je najlakse manipulisati. Ali jedno je da nesto divljas i hejtujes a drugo da ubijas i na kraju samorazneses. Ne razumem, uopste. Pa zar toliko tesko zive, zar se toliko osecaju kao gradjani 2. reda? Ne postoji racionalno objasnjenje iza pristupanja ID.
...

na ovo bih se osvrnuo kao strucnjak za sve.
recimo da imam realnog iskustva sa gradjanima drugog reda. onako, bez generalizacije, tek kroz vishi prosjek pojave simptoma gradjana drugog reda pri odredjenim sredinama:

u nasem multi-kulti drustvu, mnogo te djece cini ogroman spagat izmedju kultura i klasa. uzmi mene, za jugoslaviju sam bio nijemac, za njemacku jugoslaven/rus, za srbiju hrvat. za bogomoljce ateista, za ateiste bogomoljac. za djecu ministra sin radnika, za djecu radnika pojam uspjeha i kulture, sve uz izrazenu zavist. spoznao sam iskljucivost kroz milion predrasuda i primjera.
sad, posto sam ja genije, rukujem s time kao s dobar dan.

no ima naroda manje inteligencije, a iz doma snimljenog primjerice nadrealnog osjecaja casti. znaci, kad se sjetim svojih dozivljaja, veci postotak djecurlije iz muslimanskih obitelji ce od tebe traziti respekt koji ti ne razumijes i osjetiti se iskljuceno ili povrijedjeno.
znaci, on (sin) doma gleda oca kako dolazi s posla, majka se klanja i skruseno ljubi ruke, hoda ulicom tri metra iza poglavice obitelji. i on tu odrasta u slicnu ulogu. onda izadje u otvoren i liberalan svijet, preslika svoju poziciju i nadje se smrtno uvrijedjen, dok ti ne mozes ni povezati sta se desava.
opet, bez generalizacije, pisem o izrazajnijem postotku.

i sad to preslikaj na obrazovanje: on ne prihvaca pojam ucenika, on sve zna i zasluzuje respekt, jos ako si zena, nastavnica, ti si manje od pticjeg sranja u letu. za njega je podlozna pozicija uvreda. zanat alatnicara, od nekoliko turaka, imali smo dvoje takvih. na kraju su im poklonili ispit i urucili otkaze, samo da ih udalje, jer ne funkcioniraju u za nas pojam normalnom okruzenju, te isti tako kroz ispoljeno umanjili moguci pristup slicnima.

na kraju, nasli su nekog kljakavog boga koji ih prihvatio i ponudio im respekt.

a ispod crte, onako globalno, sve su to normalne porodjajne muke jednog uniformnog drustva koje cemo gledati kroz nekoliko generacija.

Dobro zosko, objasnio muke sina koji se oseca superiorno u svom kulturnom i religioznom okruzenju, a onda naidje na zid liberalnog sveta koji ga posmatra kao inferiorno bice. Interesantno tumacenje. Ali hajde da vidimo, sta je sa zenama teroristima i samoubicama u toj varijanti?

ne promatra njega svijet u pravilu kao inferiorno bice, vec se pojedinac istice u neprihvatljivom, t.j. nije sposoban u dovoljnoj mjeri uciniti spagat izmedju kultura. u fokusu je jer teret na njemu, znaci, on u zapadnjackom drustvu. mislim, nema tu krivca, zelimo uniformni svijet, to je cijena.

zene? ista prica. nedovoljna sposobnost pojedinca za odgovarajuci kulturoloski spagat. opet, sve normalno i bez krivca.

Ali za njih nema 70 i kusur devica u raju, sta one uopste dobijaju time? Dobro, mozda se poneka nada tim devicama Ako su device i dalje u opticaju, tj relevantne u ovim kamikaza akcijama.

ima nešto u tom ljutitom osećaju potlačenosti, neprihvatanju dominantnog  kulturnog modela, uvređenosti ismevanog člana društva i samoubilačkom odbrambenom mehanizmu (oksimoronski zvuči) mladih muslimana.