Kobasice i slanina izazivaju rak!

[Hrundi V. Bakshi]

Dositej Obradović se zalagao za pravu stvar, ali u kontra smeru, umesto za prosvetiteljstvo, valjalo mu je vozdignuti glas za povratak varvarstu, izvornim nagonima i prirodi, jer da je znao šta će sve da se ispovrati kad raja naučiti čitati i pisati, i kakvijeh će se sve gluposti u štampi i novinama naći...

Svi su u nekom modu zdravog života, jedu se bobice, trava, korenje, semenje, ima čak ludaka koji ne jedu ništa već blenu u Sunce, i sve je to zahvatilo naročito gradsku populaciju, koja ne želi da se zadrži samo na blagodetima koji im pruža čist gradski vazduh, bez smoga i ispusnih gasova saobraćaja, već želi da se zdravo i kvalitetno hrani.

Zalažem se bavarske automobile, bavarske žene, bavarsko pivo i bavarske bele kobasice.
Režim ishrane: vojnički i seljački.
Medicina: nemačka jer je die beste, i narodna.
Preventiva: dudova rakija, dudinjara ili dudovača.
Za dezert: štrudle sa makom i taške.

Umesrenost i pravilan odnos svega. Raznovrsnost. Ako imate nekog na selu, hranite se tamo, svinja od 100kg košta 15000 hiljada novaca, ljudi vam urade sve, zakolju, iseku, usole, čvarke i meso dobijate isti dan, žderete i ližete prste, za to vreme suši se slanina, šunka, kobasice, očekujete ždranje. Za godinu dana to bi otprilike bilo za četvoročlanu porodicu dosta mesa, kvalitetnog, ukusnog i lekovitog.
Ono slanine što može da se nađe u prodavnicama, to nije slanina nego sapunjara, a zove se tako jer se od nje nekada pravio sapun, lošeg je kvaliteta i u njoj je loš holesterol, nije stajala u salamuri koliko treba, i nije sušena kako i koliko treba. Prava slanina raste na drugim mestima i leči rak, sidu, glupost i pesimizam.

Pravilo je, kao što se može vidi na slici koja sledi, i kao što rekoh, naći pravi odnos svemu, pa tako na odrezak slanine dva prsta debeo, ide jedna glavica luka (narodna medicina) i tada organizam dobija dovoljan i pravilan odnos hranljivih materija, energije, zdravlja, luk ubija ono malo lošeg što nosi slanina, slanina opet neutrališe neke nuspojave kod konzumiranja luka... ovi dobri Sremci, a i svi pametni narodi širom naše lepe Evrope su to znali, i zato smo tako srećni i lepo nam je...

[Ukronija]

Ne sviđa mi se pančlajn. Sve ostalo je ok.   

[Petronije]

Hrundi svaka ti je na mestu, jedino sto ta tvoja svinja od sto kila mozda moze godinu dana da hrani cetvoroclanu porodicu ovih sto jedu bobice.

[Truba]

naucnici su pronasli kostur star 3500 godina i dokazano je da je lik umro od novotvorine
a prije 3500 nije bilo ni aditiva ni konzervansa ni zagadjenja koja danas imamo
novotvorina je zbirni naziv za 200 bolesti...

nema univerzalnog lijeka niti dogovora sta natjera te prve stanice da se krenu dijeliti neovisno od organizma i urastati u tkiva i organe

[Hrundi V. Bakshi]

 

Ne sviđa mi se pančlajn. Sve ostalo je ok.   

Ne sviđaju ti se Sremci? 

Hrundi svaka ti je na mestu, jedino sto ta tvoja svinja od sto kila mozda moze godinu dana da hrani cetvoroclanu porodicu ovih sto jedu bobice.

Majka mu stara, pa valjda će da žderu nešto drugo osim mesine, gde je krompir, pasulj, kupus, boranija, pirinač, riba, testo, ovo ono... za tatu, mamu i malji deca jedna svinja dosta, mama ionako mnogo ne jede jerbo pazi na liniju, ona će samo trendi da se hrani, po italijanski...

[Meho Krljic]

Da potkrepim ono što sam pominjao o šećeru:



Sugar Is Definitely Toxic, a New Study Says

That's what scientists have concluded from a first-of-its-kind diet study involving overweight kids Fat was the food villain these past few decades but sugar is quickly muscling in to take its place. As rates of sugar-related disorders such as diabetes, obesity and heart disease climb, many experts believe that when Americans rid themselves of fat, they simply replaced it with sugar in all its forms.
But proving that the rise of the chronic diseases was actually linked to higher sugar consumption is a challenge. Dr. Robert Lustig, from the department of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco, who has made a name for himself publishing books and research addressing the question of sugar's effects on the body, wanted clearer answers. Now, in a paper published Tuesday, he and his colleagues believe they have come up with the definitive evidence that sugar, as Lustig says, "is toxic."
In most lab studies, the doses of sugar that scientists test are quite high; they want to see what the effect is quickly and, depending on the research, they may not have time to wait to study the more gradual effects that might emerge. And in studies where people reduce the amount of sugar they eat, for instance, those people end up eating fewer calories overall, so it's difficult to know whether any changes are due to the removal of sugar or to the drop in calories.
Lustig and his colleagues think they've produced the "hard and fast data that sugar is toxic irrespective of its calories and irrespective of weight."
MORE: FDA Wants Nutrition Labels to Include More Detail on Added Sugars
Lustig's confidence comes from the unique study, described in Obesity, of 43 Hispanic or African-American children aged eight to 18 years old. He collected detailed food questionnaires from each of the adolescents to get an idea of the average amount of calories they ate per day, then designed a special menu for each of them for nine days that matched the total numbers of calories they would normally eat. The only difference in the nine-day diet was that most of the sugar the children ate was replaced by starch — the overall number of calories remained the same. The children weighed themselves daily, and if they were losing weight, they were told to eat more of the provided food in order to keep their weight the same throughout the study.
"Everything got better," says Lustig. Some of the children went from being insulin resistant, a precursor state to developing diabetes, in which the body's insulin levels can no longer keep up with the pace of breaking down sugar that's coming in from the diet, to insulin sensitive.
MORE: Artificial Sweeteners Aren't the Answer to Obesity: Here's Why
"We took chicken teriyaki out, and put turkey hot dogs in. We took sweetened yogurt out, and put baked potato chips in. We took pastries out and put bagels in," says Lustig. "So there was no change in [the children's] weight and no change in calories."
After nine days of having their total dietary sugar reduced to 10% of their daily calories, however, they showed improvements in all of these measures. Overall, their fasting blood sugar levels dropped by 53%, along with the amount of insulin their bodies produced since insulin is normally needed to break down carbohydrates and sugars. Their triglyceride and LDL levels also declined and, most importantly, they showed less fat in their liver.
MORE: 7 Amazing Things That Happen to Your Body When You Give Up Soda
Because some of the children lost weight, to convince themselves that the effects weren't due to the small amount of weight that some of the children lost, Lustig and his team compared those who lost weight to those who didn't during the study, and found similar improvements in both groups.
"Up until now, there have been a lot of correlation studies linking sugar and metabolic syndrome," says Lustig. "This is causation."
The diet he provided the children isn't considered ideal from a health perspective — starches are still a considerable source of calories and can contribute to weight gain. But Lustig relied on the starches to prove a point in a scientific study — that the effect sugar has on the body goes beyond anything connected to its calories and to weight. "I'm not suggesting in any way, shape or form that we gave them healthy food," he says. "We gave them crappy food, shitty food, processed food — and they still got better. Imagine how much even better they would have gotten if we didn't substitute and took the sugar out. Then they would have gotten even better yet. That's the point."
MORE: The Trouble With Sugar Free Kids
Not everyone is convinced that the results definitely prove sugar, and not weight loss, is the culprit, however. Susan Roberts, professor of Nutrition, USDA Nutrition Center at Tufts University notes that because some of the children lost weight, it's still possible that shedding the pounds helped their metabolic measures to improve. She also points out that the children self-reported their initial diet, which can often be inaccurate. "We know that a healthy diet and weight loss cause good metabolic changes, and although this study tries to attribute its effects to low fructose, in fact it is impossible to do that because of the study design."
Some experts are concerned for other reasons. They're worried that the findings may shift attention away from what they consider to be the more fundamental issue — that overall, we're eating too much. "Too much calorie intake is still the biggest problem," says Dr. Mark Corkins, professor of pediatrics at University of Tennessee Health Science Center and member of the American Academy of Pediatrics committee on nutrition. He notes that the study involved children who were obese already and consuming too many calories. "It's an important study, and the facts coming out of it are very important. It means we need to look at sugars, and at the type of sugars and sugar intake. But I worry that people are going to hang everything on this when we still need to reduce consumption."
Lustig hopes that won't happen as more data emerges that details how sugar is altering the body in unhealthy ways outside of its caloric contribution. That wasn't the subject of the current paper, but he promises follow up studies based on this work that will address that. This study does hint however, at what might be happening. While there has been a lot of attention on the presence of belly fat and its connection to metabolic syndrome, the fact that the children saw improvements in the amount of fat in their liver suggests that might be an important way that sugar is contributing to chronic disease. Obese children and those with diabetes often suffer from fatty liver, a condition normally associated with alcohol abuse but increasingly common among non-drinkers who gain excessive amounts of weight.
This new view of sugar could change the advice that doctors and government health officials give about eating the sweet stuff. Lustig's hope is that the information is considered as the U.S. Department of Agriculture finalizes its latest Dietary Guidelines, expected by the end of the year, which delineate recommendations for what, and how much of different types of foods and nutrients Americans should eat.

Cela studija:


http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/oby.21371/full

[scallop]

Zato od šećera pravimo rakiju.

[Albedo 0]

Ma, dobro, svakako je najbolji savet ovde to da se redovno ide na sistematske preglede i slušaju saveti lekara, da se jede kulen umereno a kreće i fizički radi redovno, te da se sačuva optimističan duh. 

fiksd

[Albedo 0]

razmišljam nešto, pa kakva je ovo podvala, Zapad nam prvo uvali konzervanse, nije ih kralj Petar izmislio, pa onda izmisle sve kekse i čokolade i sve živo puno šećera... a sad taj isti Zapad tvrdi da ništa to ne valja

Krljiću ne vjerovati ni kad kulen donosi!

inače, dopunili su priču o mesari: kakva im je to fora da su jedine zdrave svinjske šnicle one prošarane masnim žilicama? Kao one jedine nisu nakrkane antibioticima i štetnom hranom

nači da krkamo masno i sve je ok?

[Meho Krljic]

Ali, za ime Al'laha, pa TI si zapadniji od mene.

[scallop]

Toliko o autoritetu SZO. Slaninica uber alles! Kad budete neodlučni, pitajte mene.

[džin tonik]

a da ti trolujes negdje drugdje?

[scallop]

Ти ћеш ми кажеш? Ем не знаш језик, ни хрватски. а петљаш се у писање, ем нам без престанка потураш антисрпске и антицивилизацијске особине. Подбадаш женске чланове ЗС са неких 30 цм као да си Банту црнац. Ако Бобану треба трол нека те има на стриповима, ионако га ништа друго не занима. Севај, да те не видимо овде!

[Albedo 0]

Ali, za ime Al'laha, pa TI si zapadniji od mene.

ah, pa ne pričamo o geografiji, no o tome da propagiraš novu evropsku agendu, nakon što su im suhomesnate i slatkobrašnaste propale!

[Ukronija]

Ти ћеш ми кажеш? Ем не знаш језик, ни хрватски. а петљаш се у писање, ем нам без престанка потураш антисрпске и антицивилизацијске особине. Подбадаш женске чланове ЗС са неких 30 цм као да си Банту црнац. Ако Бобану треба трол нека те има на стриповима, ионако га ништа друго не занима. Севај, да те не видимо овде!

a da ti trolujes negdje drugdje?

[scallop]

Да се носиш и ти са својим патроном.

[džin tonik]

boze strucnjaka... evo, kad te ja moram ispravljati: valjda je patrona zenskog roda? ono, padezi... da se nosi sa svojom patronom! tinte ti vidio nisi, tek stemajzla i cekica.

[scallop]

Кад би ти имао нешто у тинтари. Патрон је мушког рода, а матрона женског. Реко' ја да ти немаш појма са језиком.

[džin tonik]

cool. znas, skalope, imam osjecaj da sam konacno, nakon toliko godina, shvatio razinu svijesti na kojoj se krecu tvoje mozdane vijuge i percepcija. sad cemo lako bez svadje i ruznih rijeci.

[Ukronija]

Pa daaa, i ja sam razocarana sto nije skontao.  Kako sad da nastavimo da trolujemo?? Nije vise izazovno. 

http://www.hrleksikon.info/definicija/patrona.html

[scallop]

Сад кад сте сконтали, јел' ће да нас оставите на миру?

[džin tonik]

naravno, pa nisam lud, znas, jednom su i atlantidjani iznervirali chucka. samo jednom...

[Ukronija]

Pa da, samo sto to u skalopovoj svesti znaci: vi mene da ostavite na miru, a ja cu vas da teram sa foruma i da vas nazivam trolovima, ucutkivacu vas i necu vam dati miraaa A ja bih tako volela mira.

[Linkin]

Flame trolling

Flame trolling is the posting of a provocative or offensive message, known as "flamebait", to a public Internet discussion group, such as a forum, newsgroup or mailing list, with the intent of provoking an angry response (a "flame") or argument over a topic the poster often has no real interest in. While flaming can occur as a result of legitimate debates or grievances, flame trolling implies the intentional posting of inflammatory, grossly offensive or menacing rhetoric or images for the fun of it in order to cause others harm.

Pa sami zaključite ko je ovde pravi trol, tj. ko je prvi flejmovao. 

[Ukronija]

naravno, pa nisam lud, znas, jednom su i atlantidjani iznervirali chucka. samo jednom...

[džin tonik]

linkine, smaras. rijesim se jednog, ne treba mi druga napast za vratom.

[Linkin]

linkine, smaras.

Oh, oprosti što sam te smorio pa pokvario ovaj vrhunac pozitivne energije i dobre zabave. 

[džin tonik]

nista zato, samo ne pretjeruj.

[Ukronija]

Ne znam ja koliko se drvena advokatura isplati kao pos'o. Pre se isplati gledanje svog posla.

[Linkin]

Ne soli. 


Inače, vidim da ste se našli prozvanima, a ja sam savim drugu stvar imao u vidu za flame bait koji je započeo sve ovo:

Kako bi bilo da vežbaš trolovanje negde drugde?

[scallop]

Невинашца. Никог не дирају.

[džin tonik]

linkine, hvala, to je lijepo od tebe. 

[Albedo 0]

ajd mrš s teme

[džin tonik]

prvo rak! 

[Albedo 0]

http://www.danas.rs/danasrs/kolumnisti/kancerogeni_advokat.881.html?news_id=310373

[Truba]

eno pajdo dobio novotvorinu preko pantljicare...cudo kazu

[Barbarin]

http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2015/10/world-health-organisation-meat-cancer/

[Ukronija]

Ne sviđaju ti se Sremci? 

Sviđaju mi se. Kad šalju priče na radionice. Učini nam čast:)