Carpenter

[Alex]

A ja bih da čujem nešto konkretnije o KARPENTERU  

polako bre, kud si navro!?
ti misliš to je tako, s neba pa u rebra?
ček prvo da raščistimo šta je žanr, šta je western a šta horror, šta je mejnstrim a šta alternativa, gde je tu noar, šta je hox teo da kaže, a šta o svemu tome misle veliki geniji našeg doba kao što su Horkhajmer, Adorno, Benjamin, Markuze i Alex... pa tek onda, ako stignemo, kazaćemo koju i o karpenteru!
ali – nije još vreme!
još je rano da potpuno zaronimo u sve komplexnosti koje u sebi sadrži opus JEDINOG reditelja koji je IKADA potpisao čak DVA (ne jedno, nego slovima: 2!) remek dela horora!

A drugo je Duhovi sa Marsa. YEEEE!

[Usul]

A drugo je Duhovi sa Marsa. YEEEE!

Kad se samo setim da sam kupio original DVD ...      

Žali bože para...

[Albedo 0]

Kad bi išli logikom koju zagovaraju Albedo i Ghoul onda bi svi ljudi na svetu u ovom trenutku morali da zaćute.

Svaki razgovor i govor bi morao da prestane, jer ljudi stalno upotrebljavaju pojmove koji su sastavni deo svakog jezika, a koje su naučili kad su učili da govore i da usavrše svoj govor.

Dakle za 99% pojmova koji se koriste u komunikaciji podrazumeva se šta znače. Iz konteksta govora ljudi od kojih naučiš da govoriš i razumeš govor. Ne iz rečnika i knjiga.

Onda problem nastaje kad, pošto su već određeni pojmovi ušli u široku primenu, neko reši da ih definiše i usput napiše knjigu da bi uzeo neku paru.

Pošto ljudi koji pišu nisu genijalni njihove definicije budu: pogrešne, delimično tačne, jednoslojne, primenjive na neku ograničenu oblast, a ne na ostale, konfuzne, nedorečene itd.

Onda neko pročita te knjige, uči iz njih i nađe se u čudu - ceo svet upotrebljava pojmove nesaglasno ovim definicijama. Onda on pomisli - samo ja znam šta to (i to) znači, ja sam pročitao - ostali neka ućute!

Jedan moj poznanik smatra da se na beogradskim splavovima okuplja beogradska elita. On pod elitom podrazumeva biznismene, kriminalce i taj svet koji ima pare i  koji uživa uz šund folk i ostalu muziku. Pokušao sam da mu objasnim da bi pod elitom trebao da smatra vrhunske naučnike, hirurge, umetnike, ali on je samo belo gledao. Društvena elita je to za njega, za nekog su oni koji idu u operu, daju ogromne pare za skupocene umetničke slike, koji konzumiraju elitnu kulturu.

čovječe, prvo saznaj šta je kritička teorija društva, pa makar iz iz wikipedie!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory


Reprodukcija je prag prelaska iz elitne u pop kulturu, ne samo prag prelaska, već i trenutak nestanka elitne kulture....

Ako držiš reprodukciju Hieronimusa Boscha na zidu, ti si pop, a ne elita.... To je pop konzumacija.....

Elitna konzumacija bi bila kad bi bukvalno držao originalne trake Karpenterovog Stvora u rukama i pustio ih na projektoru.... a pošto ipak gledaš na tvu, kompjuteru ili bioskopu, ti si pop konzument.... naravno nije ništa strašno biti pop konzument, ako te to plaši, pa moraš sebe da zoveš elitom....

Elitna konzumacija je kad se bukvalno nalaziš u Cathedral of the Annunciation, Moscow i gledaš djela Andreja Rubljova, a kad ga gledaš na filmu to je pop konzumacija....

i dosta bre više o ovome....

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Ako ostanemo u postojećim kategorijama, držim da je Thing bliži noiru nego vesternu, naravno u smislu kao što je i Blade Runner SF noir, ili Angel Heart occult noir.....

Druga stvar, koju nadam se neko ovdje bolje zna, je mit o Golemu, dakle ono zbog čega Thing i jeste horor, da ono što je klasični noir morao da prikazuje ekspresionističkim sijenkama, Thing je riješio otjelovljenjem, film at its best ako mene pitate.... Film kao medij je dušu dao za Golema.... i tu je Thing najbolji....

[Milosh]

http://chud.com/articles/articles/17071/1/JOHN-CARPENTER-GOES-GANGSTA/Page1.html

[Tex Murphy]

Sto mu vampira, zar taj čovjek nije odavno umro?    Negdje 2001. or something...

[taurus-jor]

Jeste umro, al' je živ.

[Alexdelarge]

Jeste umro, al' je živ.

Kontroverzna licnost sklona metafizickim skandalima.

[Ghoul]

Kontroverzna licnost sklona metafizickim skandalima.

narkomanske provenijencije!  

[risar_69]

Meni najbolje od Carpentera:

Preporučujem -In the mouth of madness-1995.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFcOeM_Usk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA94fr7t0FI&feature=related

Jedna od boljih scena u Carpenterevih filma, mi je u They live-1988, kad glavni glumac(Roddy Piper) pronađe naočala i sve vidi drugačije, svi reklamni plakati novine-zavedu ljude, pare su bog i tako dalje.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-KU7MD_3Hk&feature=related
A vidi i ljude-dobro i zlo(kao vanzemaljci).Ovaj film puno kaže.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jPG_JEyt-M&feature=related

[Tex Murphy]

Risare, ovde su SVI gledali SVE Karpenterove filmove (zanemarimo li za trenutak to što ja nisam gledao Elvisa)  

[Ghoul]

Risare, ovde su SVI gledali SVE Karpenterove filmove (zanemarimo li za trenutak to što ja nisam gledao Elvisa)  

ako će ti biti lakše, nisam ni ja.

jedini elvis koga mogu da svarim je bubba-elviso-tep.

[Kunac]

Da li je neko pominjao promo poster za novi Carpenterov film sa Nickom Cageom?



UNCAGED 2009!?! To zvuči kao pretnja.

A evo i nečeg veoma, veoma nostalgičnog... http://blog.syracuse.com/shelflife/2008/05/barbeau.jpg

[Milosh]

UNCAGED 2009!?! To zvuči kao pretnja.

[Ghoul]

Danielle Panabaker will star opposite Amber Heard in "The Ward", a psychological horror thriller that John Carpenter is directing for Echo Lake Entertainment and A Bigger Boat.



The story follows a girl (Heard) who is admitted to a psychiatric ward, meets other girls there with distinct personalities and discovers a mysterious girl haunting the halls at night.

Panabaker plays a patient in the institution, a snobbish girl who flirts with orderlies and faces electroshock therapy.

Mamie Gummer ("Taking Woodstock") also has been cast as a patient.

Michael and Shawn Rasmussen wrote the script, with revisions by Jim Agnew and Sean Keller.

Doug Mankoff, Peter Block, Mike Marcus and Andrew Spaulding are producing. Principal photography is scheduled to begin next month in Spokane, Wash.

FilmNation is handling international sales for the film.

Panabaker, repped by UTA and Management 360, most recently starred in the hit remake "Friday the 13th." She recently wrapped production on Overture's "The Crazies" and is in production on the indie drama "Weakness."

[Ghoul]

THE CINEMA OF JOHN CARPENTER: The Technique of Terror

Edited by Ian Conrich and David Woods
Wallflower Press, London and New York, 2004
224 pages

http://templeofghoul.blogspot.com/2009/12/cinema-of-john-carpenter-technique-of.html

[Ghoul]

http://ljudska_splacina.com/2011/11/halloween-1978.html

[Ghoul]

Ghoul, već počinješ da me nerviraš, nikako da napišeš nešto sa čim se ne slažem. 

[Alex]

 

[Ghoul]

Smatram da je Ghoul u pravu

[Agota]

Halloween - piano theme
Halloween ne bi bio to sto jeste da nema ovakvu muziku   iisto kao i Twin Peaks

[Agota]

 E da , sad sam se setila, htela sam i ranije to da pitam  Gula,pa sve zaboravim.....

Emisija ''Holivudska noc'' tema holivudska noc strave  16.6.1997 ???  Jer postoji snimak ???
Ili mozda Dejan Dabic ima snimak ??? Il neko treci????

[Ghoul]

Emisija ''Holivudska noc'' tema holivudska noc strave  16.6.1997 ???  Jer postoji snimak ???

[Agota]

  Ludilo
Steta sto sad nema takvih emisija ,sad je gori mrak nego ikad 
A drugi sagovornici  Sijan,Radivojevic,Cira,Lazic,Stojanovic......... jer i   to ima  da se skine i  pogleda???
I ne zajebavaj, nego daj linkove il kaci na blog 

[Milosh]

U Kinoteci trenutno idu Carpenterovi filmovi, a nažalost tek sad sam to saznao pošto je danas poslednji dan (već su bili "Halloween", "Dark Star", "Assault on Precinct 13", "The Thing", "Escape from New York" i "Starman"), elem, danas od 18h je "Prince of Darkness" a od 20h "In the Mouth of Madness".

[Agota]

jbg.
trebalo bi da postoji neki topik kinoteka i da se redovno kaci program svaki mesec.

[Milosh]

Evo ga jedan svež intervju sa Carpenterom: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/57456

[Lord Kufer]

Odličan intervju 

[Josephine]

Ju, jel ovo Gul? Moramo da mu smislimo vremeplov. 

[Franz Xaver von Baader]

hohoho, pa tu izgleda potpuno češkoslovački

[Truman]

U Kinoteci trenutno idu Carpenterovi filmovi, a nažalost tek sad sam to saznao pošto je danas poslednji dan (već su bili "Halloween", "Dark Star", "Assault on Precinct 13", "The Thing", "Escape from New York" i "Starman"), elem, danas od 18h je "Prince of Darkness" a od 20h "In the Mouth of Madness".

Ovo mi je njegova najbolja stvar od onoga što sam gledao...

[Albedo 0]

da li to znači da nisi gledao Assault on Precinct 13, The Thing, They Live? 

[Truman]

Taj prvi nije režirao Karpenter, a ova dva sam gledao...

[Ghoul]

Taj prvi nije režirao Karpenter, a ova dva sam gledao...

gospode azatote, ovaj je zbunjeniji od 6 idiota u buretu!

[Albedo 0]

Taj prvi nije režirao Karpenter, a ova dva sam gledao...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074156/




al' ipak je čudno da stavljaš In the Mouth of Madness ispred The Thing i They Live 

[Truman]

Ispravka, gledao sam i taj prvi. Sad videh na imdb-u na šta si mislio Bato.

A stavljam ispred zato što mi se mnogo sviđa priča In the mouth of madness...krajnje subjektivno.

[Albedo 0]

ok, o ukusima ne vrijedi raspravljati, ali griješiš, sinak! 

[Truman]

Sviđa mi se ta ideja o piscu koji postaje bog pošto pisci na neki način i izigravaju boga. A i glavni lik ( Sem Nil ) je iz moje struke...

[Ghoul]

moj osvrt na klasika dobrog-lošeg filma:

PRINCE OF DARKNESS (1987)



http://ljudska_splacina.com/2012/10/prince-of-darkness-1987.html

[DeHickok]

moj osvrt na klasika dobrog-lošeg filma:

PRINCE OF DARKNESS (1987)



http://ljudska_splacina.com/2012/10/prince-of-darkness-1987.html

Pa rasturi nacisto ovaj film u tom prikazu a dao si mu 3+ ? Nisam ga gledao odavno ali se secam da mi je ostao u prijatnoj uspomeni i da ga pamtim kao prilicno jeziv i napet film. Mada, prvi put sam ga gledao na ne bas dobroj VHS kopiji u mrklo doba noci a svi (tj. ovi matorci kao ja  ) znamo kako su nam tada ti piratski snimci ostavljali dovoljno maste da zamislimo da se na ekranu desava mnogo vise od onog sto je stvarno u filmu. Sad kada gledamo ove blu rey filmove jednostavno nema sanse da pomislimo da je film mozda bolji a da je problem samo u kopiji  Nego vratimo se na Karpentera. Uz They Live ovo mi je definitivno najbolji Karpenter od 1987 g. (In the Mouth of Madness  moram da pogledam ponovo da bih mozda promenio 'rangiranje").
Ne znam tacno sta se desilo mom omiljenom reziseru krajem osamdesetih ali primetno je da je nakon svog najveceg mainstream uspeha u okviru velikih holivudskih mejdzersa, mislim na film Starman, snimio zabavan i za to doba prilicno skup film "Veliku guzvu u kineskoj cetvrti" koja je dozivela fijasko na americkim blagajnama.
  Ko zna u kom pravcu bi se njegova karijera odviljala da je taj film bio uspesan.
Nakon toga je sklopio dil sa, mislim, Paramaountom da mu oni finansiraju nekoliko niskobudzetinih filmova ali iz nekog razloga snimio je samo 2 (They Live i Prince of Darkness). I onda je napravio tu pauzu od 4 godine (od 1988 do 1992)  a odmah zatim sledila je finansijska (i u svemu ostalom pogledu) katastrofa koju je doziveo sa visokobudzetnim Memoarima nevidljivog i Carpenter vise nije bio Karpenter.
Ko zna u kom pravcu bi se njegova karijera odviljala da je nastavio da radi ono sto je najbolje znao i snimao niskobudzetne bisere 1989,1990.1991... 

Mada, mozda je za propast Karpentera pre svega zasluzena  preterana konzumacija marihuane 

[Ghoul]

po meni, propast STVORA na blagajnama je ključna tačka preokreta - to mu je zagorčalo život toliko da se od toga nikad više nije sasvim povratio.
dotad je radio šta je hteo - posle su usledili kompromisi, neki bolni, neki manje očigledni, ali on više nikad nije stao na obe noge i napravio full-blown masterpis, mada je istina da je poslednji put kad je to barem pokušao bilo upravo sa ta dva B-muvija, PRINC TAME i ONI ŽIVE.
to su mu labudove pesme, sve iza njih su twitches of a dead nerve.

droge su verovatno imale svog uticaja...

[Ghoul]

Pa rasturi nacisto ovaj film u tom prikazu a dao si mu 3+ ?

pa lepo sam reko u uvodu da se u ovom rivjuu bavim pretežno praznom polovinom čaše.
objektivniji, celovitiji osvrt čitaćete u knjizi!

[Alexdelarge]

Blu-ray Review: This Election Eve, THEY LIVE Warns Against Voting For Reagan!

Politics in genre cinema is nothing new. Long before John Carpenter took on Reagan with They Live, or Don Siegel took on the communists (or the House Un-American Activities Committee, or HUAC, depending on how you interepret the film) with Invasion of the Body Snatchers, genre filmmakers, authors, and artists had taken firm political stances for decades. The beauty of genre based art is that it is able to pass below the radar of most intellectuals because they think it to be beneath them in the first place. So, the message reaches in intended targets, the proletariat, without ever having so much as raised an eyebrow. Of the two major works of the late '80s to take on Reaganism in America, Carpenter's They Live and Wes Craven's The People Under the Stairs, it is the former that lives on not only for its clarity of message, but also the fact that it's just a much better film. A Blu-ray of this film has been a long time coming, and I couldn't have been more excited with Scream Factory announced it was one of their acquisitions. Could it possibly live up to my sky high expectations? Read on.

Inspired by Siegel's Body Snatchers, 50's sci-fi nut John Carpenter decided to take a different angle on story of a society rotting from within with They Live. The film stars wrestling superstar "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, a major superstar in 1989, as John Nada, a transient handyman looking for work in Los Angeles only to find that all of the things that have been keeping him from getting ahead may not just be a matter of happenstance. When Nada stumbles upon a box full of cool shades, his worldview literally changes as this eyewear allows him to see through the subliminal messages that confront capitalist America every day. Reluctantly along for the ride is Frank Armitage (Keith David), a construction worker who is trying to do a good thing for Nada and ends up knee deep in Nada's mission. Together they attack the invading force with little more than a couple of automatic weapons and a lot of attitude.

They Live is, stripped of its political subtext, an out and out riot of a film. Roddy Piper, through his long experience with the World Wrestling Federation, was not only a hugely beloved star, but also a well-heeled performer. There was no subtle emoting necessary for this role, Piper is asked to chew the scenery to bits and spit it back at the audience, and he does so with aplomb. Keith David puts in a decent turn as his sidekick, but this is Piper's show all the way. The one scene in the film where David really shines, ironically, is the infamous fist fight between the two which is, quite possibly, the greatest fist fight ever shot. It is the stuff of legend, and I've included it below for your viewing pleasure.

If you haven't seen They Live, you're life has only been half lived. This is the stuff dreams are made of, and it is Carpenter's penultimate great film (I will vouch for In the Mouth of Madness any day of the week, but it's been slim pickins since then). Carpenter reveals in his interview for this disc that he prefers science fiction to horror, and this film is an excellent example of his dedication to the genre. Buy.

BUY!

The Disc:

Until now, there has never been a decent special edition of this film on home video, so my hopes for this disc on the Scream Factory label were quite high. I'm happy to say that this film is, without any doubt, the definitive presentation of They Live. The A/V presentation on this disc is outstanding. The image is perfectly rendered, with a thin layer of grain when appropriate and an amazingly lifelike color palette that made me feel as though I was watching it for the first time. The audio is less of a revelation, mainly because it wasn't terribly mind-blowing to begin with. We are given a DTS-HD MA 5.1 audio track that is very clear, but doesn't utilize the surrounds very well, even though the numerous fight scenes and gun battles would have been perfect opportunities. I presume that the film was originally presented in Dolby Stereo, but I cannot find corroboration for that, and this would explain that lack of expansion.

Beyond the obvious recommendation for the disc based solely on the presentation, this disc holds an amazing number of new and vintage bonus features that put this version head and shoulders above any other offering on the market. First off there is an audio commentary with Carpenter and Piper on the film that is entertaining and engaging, as both are great story tellers; there is also a vintage EPK for the film that features some behind the scenes footage as well as vintage interviews of the leads. Both of those features are archival and ported over from past releases, but Scream Factory really took it to the next level with the new stuff.

Red Shirt pictures, one of the leading names in bonus content for genre films, did a bang up job assembling interviews for the disc and lined up an impressive number of cast and crew members for the first time in a long time. We get to hear from John Carpenter, Meg Foster, Keith David, and plenty of the artistic and stunt talent on the film. These interviews are fantastic and really show the great love that these performers still have for the film, which always makes me smile. I like to think that the films I love were made with love and are still appreciated by the people who made them, it isn't always the case. On top of that we get the usual trailers and TV spots, but there is a really cool bonus feature that includes some never before seen footage from alien commercials that were made especially for the film, which I found fascinating.

I cannot recommend this film enough, and if you're any kind of fan at all, Scream Factory's disc is the only way to go. My highest recommendation!!!
Special Features:

    - Audio Commentary with Writer/Director John Carpenter and Actor Roddy Piper
    - Independent Thoughts – An interview with Writer/Director John Carpenter
    - Man vs. Aliens – An interview with Actor Keith David
    - Woman of Mystery – An interview with Actress Meg Foster
    - Watch, Look, Listen: The Sights & Sounds of They Live – A look at the visual style, stunts and music from the film with Director of Photography Gary B. Kibbe, Stunt Coordinator Jeff Imada, and Co-Composer Alan Howarth
    - Original EPK: The Making of They Live
    Never-Before-Seen Footage from the Commercials created for the film.
    Original Theatrical Trailer
    TV Spots
    Still Gallery

[Ghoul]

A sad – masakr!
Odavno me nešto nije iznerviralo kao imbecilni članak koji ćete videti dole, pa ću mu sad posvetiti malo svoje pažnje. To što ga potpisuje sasvim nepoznati anonimus, neki Milenko Stanišić, nije mu neki alibi: objavljen je u našem prestižnom, hvaljenom, uglednom itd. filmskom časopisu SINEAST – dakle, na autoritativnom mestu sa koga se godinama, u vreme SFRJ, diktiralo šta je šta i ko je ko u filmskoj umetnosti.
A sudeći po tom Milenku,
STVOR i KRISTINA: totalni promašaji!



http://ljudska_splacina.com/2012/11/stvor-i-kristina-totalni-promasaji.html

[Truba]

ma dobro lik malo sere
ali živio je u doba bez interneta kada se nije tako lako moglo provjeriti štošta

inače

MILENKO STANIŠIĆ
Tekstovi od istog autora:

    Baunti, SINEAST, 01/01/1986
    Stanje redovno, SINEAST, 01/01/1986
    Put u kosmos Filipa Kaufmana, SINEAST, 01/12/1985
    Stvar i Kristina Džona Karpentera, SINEAST, 01/12/1985
    O Amadeusu i povodom njega, SINEAST, 01/12/1985
    Vatrene ulice Voltera Hila, SINEAST, 01/12/1985
    Futluz, SINEAST, 01/01/1985
    Šta te muči cakani?, SINEAST, 01/01/1985
    Priroda je nepredvidljiva, SINEAST, 01/10/1984
    Balegari izgubili srebro, SINEAST, 01/10/1984
    Neka mu je slava i hvala, SINEAST, 01/10/1984
    Agonija ne postoji, SINEAST, 01/10/1984
    Usamljeni ratnici, SINEAST, 01/10/1984
    Staze budućnosti vode u prošlosti, SINEAST, 01/10/1984
    Tanka crvena linija, SINEAST, 01/12/1982
    Tragači drugih svjetova, SINEAST, 01/12/1981

čini se nije puno palamudio o hororu 

[Ghoul]

odsustvo interneta nije alibi za trućanje NAPAMET.
o čemu ne znaš - ćuti.

to pravilo je važilo i pre interneta, mada je tek sa internetom postalo jasno koliko mnogo ljudi voli da kenja o stvarima koje ne razuma i kojima zna malo ili nimalo.

[Truba]

ondašnji milijun uz inflaciju je današnjih više milijuna 

možda je retroaktivno mislio na inflaciju i buduće čitatelje 

[Gaff]

John Carpenter intervju (video)

via Hero Complex/LA Times

[Ghoul]

John Carpenter "Night" (Official Music Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyNuWCjc-bg

[Dybuk]

Jedan od najprecenjenijih filmadzija svih vremena...what? 

The Thing, Prince of Darkness, Cigarette Burns, odlicni ostalo so-so. Moje misljenje, naravski.

[ridiculus]

Ja sam fan filma Big Trouble in Little Chine-a. Jedan od najboljih avanturističkih filmova svoje decenije, ako ne i šire.

A mislim da Dark Star, iako amaterski realizovan, ima neke od najboljih ideja vidjenih na filmu.

Tja, morao bih ponovo da pogledam Starman-a. Nisam ga gledao od 80-tih.