E-book wars!

[Melkor]

Amazon Pulls Macmillan Books Over E-Book Price Disagreement
By BRAD STONE

Update | 2:39 p.m. Adding reporting from Motoko Rich, the Times reporter covering the publishing industry, on Macmillan's side of the dispute.

As Venture Beat and other blogs have noticed Friday evening, books from Macmillan, one of the largest publishers in the United States, have vanished from Amazon.com.

The question is why.

I've talked to a person in the industry with knowledge of the dispute who says the disappearance is the result of a disagreement between Amazon.com and book publishers that has been brewing for the last year. Macmillan, like other publishers, has asked Amazon to raise the price of electronic books from $9.99 to around $15. Amazon is expressing its strong disagreement by temporarily removing Macmillan books, said this person, who did not want to be quoted by name because of the sensitivity of the matter.

Macmillan is one of the publishers signed on to offer books to Apple, as part of its new iBooks store. Its imprints include Farrar, Straus & Giroux, St. Martins Press and Henry Holt. The publisher's books can still be bought from third parties on the Amazon site.

Apple, as we've reported before, will allow publishers more leeway to set their own prices for e-books. It's not clear yet if publishers can withhold books from Amazon while giving them to other parties like Apple. I've spoken to two antitrust lawyers who say it could raise legal issues.

Motoko Rich, my colleague, spoke with a person who had a direct conversation with a person at Macmillan familiar with the conversations with Amazon. Macmillan offered Amazon the opportunity to buy Kindle editions on the same "agency" model as it will sell e-books to Apple for the iPad. Under this model, the publisher sets the consumer book price and takes 70 percent of each sale, leaving 30 percent to the retailer. Macmillan said Amazon could continue to buy e-books under its current wholesale model, paying the publisher 50 percent of the hardcover list price while pricing the e-book at any level Amazon chooses, but that Macmillan would delay those e-book editions by seven months after hardcover release. Amazon's removal of Macmillan titles on Friday appears to be a direct reaction to that.

Macmillan has not yet returned a request for comment. Amazon refused to comment.

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http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/31/how-much-are-you-willing-to-pay-for-ebooks-macmillan-wants-15/

How much are you willing to pay for eBooks? (Macmillan wants $15)

For the last few days Amazon and Macmillan have been waging a tiny little war over the future of eBook pricing. You may have missed it, because unlike most wars, the stakes in this battle aren't all that visible. Digital book sales still make up a relatively small portion of the digital media world and pale in comparison to the growing markets for digital music and movie downloads. But as eBook readers including the Amazon Kindle, Barnes & Noble Nook, and the upcoming iPad make it easier and easier to find, purchase, and read eBooks, sales are likely to pick up.

You'd think that would be a good thing for book publishers. But here's the thing: Amazon, one of the driving forces behind physical and digital book sales, has been refusing to charge more than $9.99 per eBook for new release titles. That price is significantly lower than the price of most new hardcover books. And that makes sense. There's no printing, binding, paper, or distribution cost involved. Sure, someone still needs to pay for the writing, editing, marketing, and other costs. But it's hard to make a case that it costs just as much to produce and distribute another copy of a digital book as it does a physical one.

But Macmillan, which is one of the 6 largest publishers in the US, is rather unhappy with the $9.99 pricing. The company wants to be able to charge as much as $14.99 for eBooks sold through Amazon. In protest, Amazon pulled all of Macmillan's titles from its store this weekend. And when I say all, I mean it. Not just the eBooks, but the paper copies as well.

Of course, that hurts the customers at least as much as it hurts the publisher. Nobody wants to login to an online bookstore and find that 1/6th of the titles from major publishers are suddenly gone -- especially since most readers probably have no idea who publishes the books from their favorite authors. They just know that suddenly the selection has become much more limited.

Today, Amazon admitted that it can't keep up this fight. Because Macmillan has a "monopoly over their own titles," if Amazon wants to be able to sell those titles, the company will have to allow the publisher to set its pricing. But Amazon management makes it clear that it strongly disagrees with Macmillan's proposed pricing.

In other words -- Amazon wants eBooks to continue selling for $10 or less. And since the store seems to be losing the ability to set its own pricing, it's asking customers to vote with their dollars. If you think $15 is too much to pay for an eBook, then don't pay it. Publishers may need to lower their own pricing to meet customer demand.

On the other hand, if you're willing to pay almost as much for a digital book as for one printed on paper for the convenience of downloading your copy from the internet and having a digital copy that you can perform a full text search on, resize the fonts for, and perform all sorts of other digital tricks without fear of tearing a page, then by all means pay up.

Me, I'll probably keep picking up old paperbacks from used book stores and thrift stores for a couple of bucks per book. It's cheaper than buying new books or eBooks.

How much do you think eBooks should go for? Sound off in the comments.

15$ je previše za redovan naslov...

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A Message from Macmillan CEO John SargentManagement Services

    To: All Macmillan authors/illustrators and the literary agent community
    From: John Sargent
    Re: Missing books on Amazon.com

    This past Thursday I met with Amazon in Seattle. I gave them our proposal for new terms of sale for e books under the agency model which will become effective in early March. In addition, I told them they could stay with their old terms of sale, but that this would involve extensive and deep windowing of titles. By the time I arrived back in New York late yesterday afternoon they informed me that they were taking all our books off the Kindle site, and off Amazon. The books will continue to be available on Amazon.com through third parties.

    I regret that we have reached this impasse. Amazon has been a valuable customer for a long time, and it is my great hope that they will continue to be in the very near future. They have been a great innovator in our industry, and I suspect they will continue to be for decades to come.

    It is those decades that concern me now, as I am sure they concern you. In the ink-on-paper world we sell books to retailers far and wide on a business model that provides a level playing field, and allows all retailers the possibility of selling books profitably. Looking to the future and to a growing digital business, we need to establish the same sort of business model, one that encourages new devices and new stores. One that encourages healthy competition. One that is stable and rational. It also needs to insure that intellectual property can be widely available digitally at a price that is both fair to the consumer and allows those who create it and publish it to be fairly compensated.

    Under the agency model, we will sell the digital editions of our books to consumers through our retailers. Our retailers will act as our agents and will take a 30% commission (the standard split today for many digtal media businesses). The price will be set for each book individually. Our plan is to price the digital edition of most adult trade books in a price range from $14.99 to $5.99. At first release, concurrent with a hardcover, most titles will be priced between $14.99 and $12.99. E books will almost always appear day on date with the physical edition. Pricing will be dynamic over time.

    The agency model would allow Amazon to make more money selling our books, not less. We would make less money in our dealings with Amazon under the new model. Our disagreement is not about short term profitability but rather about the long-term viability and stability of the digital book market.

    Amazon and Macmillan both want a healthy and vibrant future for books. We clearly do not agree on how to get there. Meanwhile, the action they chose to take last night clearly defines the importance they attribute to their view. We hold our view equally strongly. I hope you agree with us.

    You are a vast and wonderful crew. It is impossible to reach you all in the very limited timeframe we are working under, so I have sent this message in unorthodox form. I hope it reaches you all, and quickly. Monday morning I will fully brief all of our editors, and they will be able to answer your questions. I hope to speak to many of you over the coming days.

    Thanks for all the support you have shown in the last few hours; it is much appreciated.

    All best, John

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Ket Valente: http://yuki-onna.livejournal.com/562054.html

Kori Doktorow: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/29/amazon-and-macmillan.html

[Melkor]

i pametnjikave stvari kod Strossa, Scalzia i Buckella

cudi me da niko ne pominje pirateriju, verovatno nije razmahana dovoljno kao kod filma i muzike

i, je l' moguce da niko nije skinuo DRM sa kindle izdanja??

[Kler_Vojant]

'de nije razmahana lol na demonoidu ima preko 10 000 torenata samo sa audiobookovima.

[Melkor]

Razmahana, like, alleged udeo zarade koji "otima" industriji.

[Melkor]

SFWA removes Amazon.com links from website

Due to Amazon.com's removal of many of our authors' books from its ordering system, we are removing Amazon.com links from our website. Our authors depend on people buying their books and since a significant percentage of them publish through Macmillan or its subsidiaries, we would prefer to send traffic to stores where the books can actually be purchased.

To that end, our volunteers are in the process of redirecting book links to indiebound.org, Powell's, Barnes and Noble, and Borders.

Many authors are being hit hard by this, so we encourage you to seek out new places to find their books.

Edited to add: It is worth noting, that if a book is only available on Amazon, we are leaving the link in place. Our goal is to make sure that it is possible to order our members' fiction. Hurting authors to make a point about a publishing model is bad business, for anyone.

[zakk]

http://journal.bookfinder.com/2009/03/breakdown-of-book-costs.html

There is an interesting article in Money Magazine this month that helps explain it a little bit.  They took a bestselling hardcover novel; in this case they took The Associate by John Grisham and broke down what the various costs are.  These costs are obviously estimates, and will differ greatly depending on print run but I think it is really interesting to see the basic breakdown.

Based on a list price of $27.95

$3.55 - Pre-preduction - This amount covers editors, graphic designers, and the like
$2.83 - Printing - Ink, glue, paper, etc
$2.00 - Marketing - Book tour, NYT Book Review ad, printing and shipping galleys to journalists
$2.80 - Wholesaler - The take of the middlemen who handle distrobution for publishers
$4.19 - Author Royalties - A bestseller like Grisham will net about 15% in royalties, lesser known authors get less.  Also the author will be paying a slice of this pie piece to his agent, publicist, etc.

This leaves $12.58, Money magazine calls this the profit margin for the retailer, however when was the last time you saw a bestselling novel sold at its cover price.

Most books are sold to retailers at X% discount of the cover price by the wholesalers.  The size of X pretty much directly corolates with the size of the print run (basic economies of scale), on a bestseller like Mr. Grisham the discount is estimated at about 50%, so we can assume a midlist novel might be 20-30%

From this number take away the consumers discount, as well as staffing, marketing, and rent costs the retailer pays before you get to the actual profit margin.

While it's not exact it does take away some of that "WHAT!?! $30 for a book?" shock I have when browsing my bookstore.

Ne shvataju mnogi da nije ipak jedini trošak štampa i hendlovanje...

[zakk]

http://www.tor.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=blog&id=58735

New Message from Macmillan CEO John Sargent

To: Macmillan Authors and Illustrators and
Cc: Literary Agents
From: John Sargent

I am sorry I have been silent since Saturday. We have been in constant discussions with Amazon since then. Things have moved far enough that hopefully this is the last time I will be writing to you on this subject.

Over the last few years we have been deeply concerned about the pricing of electronic books. That pricing, combined with the traditional business model we were using, was creating a market that we believe was fundamentally unbalanced. In the last three weeks, from a standing start we have moved to a new business model. We will make less money on the sale of e books, but we will have a stable and rational market. To repeat myself from last Sunday' s letter, we will now have a business model that will ensure our intellectual property will be available digitally through many channels, at a price that is both fair to the consumer and that allows those who create and publish it to be fairly compensated.

We have also started discussions with all our other partners in the digital book world. While there is still lots of work to be done, they have all agreed to move to the agency model.

And now on to royalties. Three or four weeks ago, we began discussions with the Author' s Guild on their concerns about our new royalty terms. We indicated then that we would be flexible and that we were prepared to move to a higher rate for digital books. In ongoing discussions with our major agents at the beginning of this week, we began informing them of our new terms. The change to an agency model will bring about yet another round of discussion on royalties, and we look forward to solving this next step in the puzzle with you.

A word about Amazon. This has been a very difficult time. Many of you are wondering what has taken so long for Amazon and Macmillan to reach a conclusion. I want to assure you that Amazon has been working very, very hard and always in good faith to find a way forward with us. Though we do not always agree, I remain full of admiration and respect for them. Both of us look forward to being back in business as usual.

And a salute to the bricks and mortar retailers who sell your books in their stores and on their related websites. Their support for you, and us, has been remarkable over the last week. From large chains to small independents, they committed to working harder than ever to help your books find your readers.

Lastly, my deepest thanks to you, our authors and illustrators. Macmillan and Amazon as corporations had our differences that needed to be resolved. You are the ones whose books lost their buy buttons. And yet you have continued to be terrifically supportive of us and of what we are trying to accomplish. It is a great joy to be your publisher.

I cannot tell you when we will resume business as usual with Amazon, and needless to say I can promise nothing on the buy buttons. You can tell by the tone of this letter though that I feel the time is getting near to hand.

All best,
John

[mac]

Nije "admiration" to što on oseća prema Amazonu, nego strah.

[Melkor]

ne mogu sad da se setim ciji je ovo blog, ali lepo opisuje poziciju Amazona u odnosu na ostale on-line knjizare

Alternatives to Associating with Amazon

Every time Amazon flexes its muscle to reveal just how powerful its monopoly is (cf. the latest brouhaha), I grow a bit more uncomfortable making all the book title links on this blog ones that go to Amazon and, through their Associates program, send back some spare change to me.  I mean, I know I'm immoral for using Amazon so much, but I've already admitted to being a pox upon the bookselling body in general.  In most of my choices as a consumer, I'm a pox upon the entire world, a blight of bourgeois indifference, a hemmorhoid on the......  Well, you get the idea.

But what about you?  Why should Amazon be the only choice you have when following a link to find out more information about a book, and possibly to order a copy for yourself?  Why should I force you to be the same sort of immoral pox-blight-hemmorhoid as I?

I've stuck with the Amazon Associates program for, as I said on David Moles's blog, reasons of inertia and of not knowing of another website that was as comprehensive and useful.  (Amazon even has a widget that works with Blogger and adds Associates links quickly and easily -- it's like crack!)  I'd love to use IndieBound, but they don't offer much information on their book pages and, as David points out, good luck trying to do anything with their site if you're not in the U.S.  Powells has interesting content and some good information, but they're a bit limited in their stock because they're actual stores.  Abebooks is great for used books (it's where I check first for used books these days, because the prices often are less than used books at Amazon and the booksellers tend to be a little bit better at describing the actual conditions of the books they're selling).*

On David's blog, I suggested The Book Depository as a possible alternative, since it offers free worldwide shipping, and then saw Cheryl had had some similar thoughts and was asking publishers, especially, for feedback on their experiences.  I've used TBD to order books from the UK and have been thrilled with their service, and they also have links for lots of American editions.  I may switch over to a combination of them and Abebooks (because I do sometimes reference out of print titles, and good as TBD is, you can't order Crybaby of the Western World from them).

Or maybe I'll just mix it up more ... sometimes using Amazon, sometimes others.  That allows more of an international approach, too.  Anybody have any preferences?  I know a few of you occasionally order books through the links here (and other people order stuff like household appliances, which I'm really grateful for, because I get far more money back when you order an $800 widget than I do when you order a $10 book!)  For me what matters is that wherever the links go, they provide information -- my primary goal here is not to sell you books, but to give you information and opinions about them.  It's nice if the links can occasionally provide some money, too, since I don't have ads on the site and do put a lot of time into it all, so a passive and unobtrusive form of fundraising seems like an okay thing to me, and I've never minded such links on other people's sites.  But I don't know what blog readers other than myself think about all this, so I'm legitimately curious.

*Update 2/1: As noted in the comments, Amazon is buying AbeBooks, which also gives them a 40% share in LibraryThing.  So ... it was a good thought....

[Melkor]

  HarperCollins & Hachette Join Macmillan


Following the ongoing Amazon/Macmillan conflict, HarperCollins and Hachette have now joined Macmillan. These publishers want to renegotiate Kindle e-book prices on the so-called Agency Model, in which publishers set prices and retailers keep 30% of the sales price. Under this plan, publishers will be able to offer a higher price for books when they're first published, and reduce the prices over time, probably in a range from $14.99 to $5.99. Amazon prefers to price new bestsellers at $9.99, a price many publishers feel is unreasonably low.

A Hachette spokesman notes that the agency model isn't "a way to make more money on e-books. In fact, we make less on each e-book sale under the new model; the author will continue to be fairly compensated and our e-book agents will make money on every digital sale."

On January 31, 2010, in a public post, the Amazon Kindle team wrote, "We don't believe that all of the major publishers will take the same route as Macmillan." However, now three of the "big six" publishers are asking for agency-model pricing.

Macmillan titles are still not available for sale at Amazon, except through third-party vendors.

[Melkor]

Code Select Expand

ZA to vreme, u drugom kraju grada


US Department of Justice objects to Google book plan


The US Department of Justice has said that it is still not satisfied with a deal that would allow search giant Google to build a vast digital library.

It said the plan failed to address antitrust and copyright concerns.

It echoes objections by online retailer Amazon, which has said that Google's plan to scan and distribute millions of books online could lead to a monopoly.

Google were forced to amend details of the plan in 2009 after objections by the Department of Justice (DoJ).

"The amended settlement agreement still confers significant and possibly anti-competitive advantages on Google as a single entity," the DOJ said.

It said that the agreement would allow the Google to be "the only competitor in the digital marketplace with the rights to distribute and otherwise exploit a vast array of works in multiple formats".

'Unaddressed issues'

Google Books - formerly known as Google print - was first launched in 2004. It was put on hold a year later when the Authors Guild of America and Association of American Publishers sued over "massive copyright infringement".

In 2008 Google agreed to pay $125m (£77m) to create a Book Rights Registry, where authors and publishers could register works and receive compensation for scanned books.
   

It once again reinforces the value the agreement can provide in unlocking access to millions of books in the US
Google spokesperson

A decision on whether the deal could go through was originally scheduled for October 2009. But, District Judge Denny Chin, presiding over the trial, sent the deal back to the drawing board after objections from around the world, including criticism by the DoJ.

The DoJ has once again waded into the debate.

It says the proposed settlement posed potential copyright and antitrust issues.

It also criticised the agreement for requiring authors to opt out of having their books included in the deal, rather than opting in.

It also said that authors and representatives of the publishing industry who had brokered the deal had inappropriately spoken for foreign authors and for authors of "orphan works".

Orphan books - of which there are thought to be five million - are titles where the authors cannot be found.

The DoJ said that Google's exclusive access to these orphan works "remains unaddressed, producing a less than optimal result from a competition standpoint."

But Google said that the Department of Justice's filing recognised "the progress made with the revised settlement".

"It once again reinforces the value the agreement can provide in unlocking access to millions of books in the US," it said.

"We look forward to Judge Chin's review of the statement of interest from the Department and the comments from the many supporters who have filed submissions with the court in the last months."

A hearing on the settlement has been scheduled on 18 February.

[Melkor]

Notes from New Sodom: The Kerspindle Kerfuffle

[zakk]

Notes from New Sodom: The Kerspindle Kerfuffle

Odlično

[Usul]

i pametnjikave stvari kod Strossa, Scalzia i Buckella

cudi me da niko ne pominje pirateriju, verovatno nije razmahana dovoljno kao kod filma i muzike

i, je l' moguce da niko nije skinuo DRM sa kindle izdanja??

Skinuo jos prosle godine.

Videti link:

http://i-u2665-cabbages.blogspot.com/2009/12/circumventing-kindle-for-pc-drm.html

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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BOOKS_PATTERSON?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-07-06-17-11-14

James Patterson tops 1 million in e-book sales

NEW YORK (AP) -- James Patterson's publishing company says that he's the first author to exceed one million sales in electronic book delivery.

The Hachette Book Group says Patterson has moved 1.14 million units of his books for devices like Kindle and the iPad. The big seller, by far, is the most recent: Patterson's novel "I, Alex Cross," which was published both electronically and in hardcover last fall. Since his first novel in 2007, Patterson's books have sold more than 205 million copies.

There's no third-party monitor of e-book sales, so Hachette used its own figures and checked other prominent authors. The publisher didn't find any others who had cracked the million mark.

Patterson says: "If e-books get people who might otherwise not be reading to pick up a book, then that makes me happy."

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International Kindle users: here's how Amazon is screwing you

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/08/30/international-kindle-users-heres-how-amazon-is-screwing-you/

I am the proud owner of a brand-spanking-new WiFi-only Kindle. The coveted device is currently en route, and I can't wait to be reading off its crisp E-Ink screen in all of its greyscale glory.

Since I'm so anxious to start using it, I decided to get a head start on building up my electronic library. I decided to start with the classics – for example, Moby Dick. Yes, I know it's available for free online, but this edition is typeset for the Kindle so I figured it must be worth the modest sum Amazon asks for it ($2.95, as you see in the screenshot above).

When I sent the link to my friend, who has an Amazon account with a Canadian billing address, we were amazed to discover that Amazon list the same exact item at $0.95 when she's looking at it.

This two-dollar difference holds across the boards – for all Kindle titles. It is most noticeable on the cheap ones (for Moby Dick, it's actually a 200% markup!), but it's there also for the more expensive ones.

Next to the jacked-up price, it says "International shipping included". In plain English, this means "roaming charges for 3G". Okay ... but:

1) Amazon constantly touts its 3G kindle as "Free 3G" – here, it's right in the product name – Kindle 3G Wireless Reading Device, Free 3G + Wi-Fi, 6" Display, Graphite, 3G Works Globally - Latest Generation!

2) I bought a WiFi-only device. So even if international 3G users do have to pay some sort of a roaming charge (which is very underhanded in itself), surely there should no be such charge for WiFi-only users!

Thinking this must be some mistake, I called Amazon up (Thanks, GetHuman.com).

The first service rep I got gave me an optimistic prediction – she said they could probably fix this, and she's putting me through to the Kindle department. Great.

That's where the "nice" part of the call ended, pretty much. Upon holding for another five minutes, I finally got to the Kindle department. There, the rep told me that the price mark-up is due to roaming charges. I patiently explained that my device is technically incapable of incurring any roaming charges, since it's WiFi only.

The rep said, "yes, I understand it is WiFi only, but there are roaming charges because AT&T is the service provider". Upon which I proceeded to explain yet again that I do not have a 3G chip in my device, physically. This intelligent exchange went on for a few minutes, until I finally asked to speak to her manager.

Upon getting the team leader, he basically told me the same thing. I would be required to pay for a roaming charge, even though Amazon advertises its 3G as free and that my device is WiFi only.

I then emailed them to kindle-feedback@amazon.com, and got the same exact reply. I am attaching the complete exchange below, just so you see how much Amazon (doesn't) care about this at the moment.

Bottom line: International Kindle users, caveat emptor. Amazon is basically charging you for services you're not using, don't want to use, and explicitly opted out of, and it can come to a 200% markup for some books. Way to go, Amazon!

Ovo nije ceo tekst (gubi se formatiranje pa nisam sve preneo), ima zanimljivosti i u komentarima, recimo utisci korisnika iz Hrvatske itd.

[Nightflier]

Sreća pa je bezmalo sve što postoji za Kindl piratizovano. Sem toga, zar ne mogu knjige da se skinu na računar, pa kablom prebace na Kindl?

[Meho Krljic]

Pa nije stvar u tome. Oće ovaj baja da tipla, ali neće da plaća roming kad uopšte nema mašinu sa 3G tehnologijom nego samo wi-fi konekciju.

[Nightflier]

Pa nije stvar u tome. Oće ovaj baja da tipla, ali neće da plaća roming kad uopšte nema mašinu sa 3G tehnologijom nego samo wi-fi konekciju.

Džebiga, to ti je porez koji svi mi plaćamo na održavanje kulture (američke) u kojoj uživamo.

[mac]

Pa sad, ako imamo pantalone različitih veličina zašto onaj ko nosi 32 mora da plati istu cenu kao onaj ko nosi 34? Zato što je proizvođaču lakše da ima jednu cenu za jedan proizvod. Proizvod je knjiga, i knjiga ima cenu, i to je to.

[Nightflier]

Pa sad, ako imamo pantalone različitih veličina zašto onaj ko nosi 32 mora da plati istu cenu kao onaj ko nosi 34? Zato što je proizvođaču lakše da ima jednu cenu za jedan proizvod. Proizvod je knjiga, i knjiga ima cenu, i to je to.

Pa zato što se proizvođaču može. To se zove "monopolizam". Jedino što kupac može jeste da donese odluku da li hoće da učestvuje u tome ili ne. Meni se jako dopada Kindl kao uređaj, a dopada mi se i to što su mi knjige trenutno dostupne. Za one naslove koje ne želim ili ne mogu da čekam da se pojave u piratskoj varijanti, nije mi žao da dam tih dva dolara više. Ali većina onoga što me zanima svejedno je ili trenutno dostupna na torentima, ili dobijam pdfove od izdavača.

Sad, ja veći problem imam sa našom poštom i carinom. Pošto ne želim da plaćam 100 % preko cene proizvoda, možda ću ipak kupiti neki tablet. Asus je najavio tablet sa cenom oko 350 eura, tako da to možda bude to - ako ne uspem da nekako dobavim Kindl preko nekog prijatelja.

[zakk]

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/09/02/international-kindle-avoid-extra-fee-save/

International Kindle users: change your country to avoid additional fees

by Erez Zukerman (RSS feed) Sep 2nd 2010 at 3:00PM

Okay, so my earlier story about how Amazon is messing with International Kindle users made a bit of a splash. Quite a few things came up in my investigations before and after the story, but the basic fact remains: Amazon will add a fixed $2.00 surcharge to most items (which may or may not be a "roaming charge") if you're an international customer, even if you're using a WiFi-only device.

But I've now discovered something interesting enough to warrant a follow-up: It turns out that if you go to Amazon's Manage My Kindle page, you can simply set your country.

I think you must specify a valid address in your destination country (I supplied a valid one in Canada), but Amazon then simply takes your word for it.

As soon as I switched my country from Israel to Canada, the extra $2.00 per book simply disappeared. I could also suddenly subscribe to the NYT. I didn't actually try to do it, but it appears to be possible. Another side-effect was that Michael Pollan's Food Rules was suddenly unavailable, whereas before I was actually to buy the title for $7.20 (when my location was listed as "Israel").

What's interesting is that in talking to four different Amazon reps, not a single one has mentioned this option. Also, Amazon can easily verify your actual location in two different ways – IP address or billing address. Yet, for some interesting reason, they choose to let you specify the address manually, and then take your word for it.

To me, this feels like a legal work-around they've had to take due to content restrictions and distributors insisting on various deals. Could it be that this shifts the legal responsibility to the customer rather than leave it with Amazon? Maybe I'm completely off-base here, but I think such weird complications are often lawyer-induced.

Note that I still don't have the device itself, so I can't fully guarantee that this works, and for all I know, they might plug this hole tomorrow. What I can tell you is that right now it does change the pricing and availability of many Kindle items.

Glupa doskočica, ali hej... 2 po 2 dolara, i eto novih knjiga...

[Nightflier]

'Ajde da i ovde postavim link: http://www.prestigio.rs/news/reviews/ebook-24082010

[Melkor]

Google to launch e-book store

Google hopes to write itself a substantial chapter in the digital books story with the launch of its own store.

Google eBooks, formerly known as Google Editions, launches in the US on 6 December.

It will allow users to download three million e-books to a range of devices.

It will put it head-to -head with Amazon, which links its Kindle device to its own store, and Apple with its iBookstore.
Library fears

The launch of the service has been delayed, due to legal and technical wrangles.

But Google is hopeful that its "device agnostic" store will rewrite the current generation of digital books.

"It benefits authors because they will be able to be more visible and more accessible than with the physical constraints of a book store," said Santiago de la Mora, director of books at Google.

"It will also be good for publishers who will be able to promote backlist titles," he added.

James McQuivey, an analyst with research firm Forrester, predicts Google could become an important player in the market.

"It is sitting on information that no-one else has. It knows when you are searching for authors and what book titles and that is its biggest strength," he said.

"It may not lure people away from the Kindle but there are tens of millions of people who read but don't own a Kindle," he added.

According to Forrester, 10.3 million e-readers were sold in the US during 2010, not including the iPad. It predicts that by the end of 2010, the e-book market will be worth $966m (£615m).

Google does not have an unblemished record when it comes to digital books.

Its work to scan millions of books has courted huge controversy from critics who were concerned that it could become the sole curator of a huge online library.

It has been fighting a two-year legal battle with authors and publishers in the US.

It has agreed to set up a Books Rights Registry through which authors could register their works and get compensation but no ruling from the US court looking at the case has yet been handed out.

Google's ability to offer users access to classic literature could boost its eBook project, thinks Mr McQuivey.

"If you can read Les Miserables for free using Google's system it is a way to lure people in and whet their appetite for e-reading," he said.

He expects the e-reading market to nearly double in size in 2011.

Google's eBook service is expected to launch in Europe in 2011.

[zakk]

"If you can read Les Miserables for free using Google's system it is a way to lure people in and whet their appetite for e-reading," he said.

Ahaha.

Nego, počeli su da rade, ali US only.

[Melkor]

http://www.paulcornell.com/2010/12/twelve-blogs-of-christmas-ten.html

Paul Cornell pise o e-knjigama, piratima i regionalizaciji i jos ponecemu...

'E-books, self-publication and agents are like abortion, marijuana and taxation - it seems no one can discuss them rationally' - David Levine.

[Meho Krljic]

Baš se raspisao. Ali razumno.

[Melkor]

Why Some E-Books Cost More Than the Hardcover

The good people at Reddit recently noticed something peculiar and engaged in a spirited debate about it. The topic? A bete noir for many an e-book reader:

E-books priced more than their print edition.

How could this possibly be? Paper costs more than electrons, so surely e-books should be cheaper, right?

Believe it or not, this isn't a glitch. And it's not happening because publishers are asleep at the wheel either.

Come down the rabbit hole with me into the wholesale/agency tunnel, and I'll tell you why this is happening.

Ye Olde Wholesale

First, as always, we have to start with some dry background information. For a very long time publishers have had a system where they set the suggested retail price and take roughly half of that. Whatever the bookseller wants to charge from there is their business.

So, napkin math, if a book is listed with a $24.99 cover price the publisher would get about $12.50 of that, which they would split with the author, cover their costs, hopefully make a profit, etc. (Further background here.)

If the book sells for $24.99 the bookseller also gets $12.50. Or, if the bookseller discounts it to $19.99, well, that comes out of the bookseller's take and and the bookseller gets about $7.50. Heck, the bookseller could charge the consumer $10.00 and take a loss. That's their business. The publisher still gets their $12.50.

For a long time this system worked without too much disruption. Then came Amazon.

Enter the Kindle

A couple of things happened in the past couple of years that had publishers rather nervous.

First came the Kindle, which enabled Amazon to jump out to a massive early lead in e-book market share. For a while there it looked like Amazon was going to win the e-book war going away, and they were using their massive scale to help further that process.

Originally Amazon was selling e-books based on the wholesale model. So take that $24.99 hardcover. For every new e-book, Amazon was paying publishers roughly 50% of the hardcover price, or $12.50. Only... for some popular titles they were selling those e-books for $9.99. They were taking a loss on some titles in order to sell Kindles, build market share, and establish a massive early lead with their proprietary e-book format.

And then during the holiday season of 2009, Amazon engaged in a price war with WalMart, Target and others, and discounted some very popular hardcovers to $9.99. Again, at a loss.

This created several very pressing concerns for publishers. For one, Amazon was helping devalue consumers' notion of what a new book "should" cost. And two, they were growing extremely, extremely powerful. Bookstores definitely couldn't compete with $9.99, and neither could many other e-book sellers, even massive corporations.

Publishers badly wanted to level the playing field to make sure there was competition in the marketplace. They didn't want Amazon creating a monopoly and turning up the screws on their terms.

So...

Publishers Say Homey Don't Play That

Enter the agency model.

When Apple entered the e-book fray with the introduction of the iPad, they brought with them the app store model: Publisher sets the price, Apple gets 30%, publisher gets 70%. Publishers, who wanted a way to slow down all the deep discounting and create a create a leveler playing field, say heck yeah, and they tell Amazon that's the new game in town. They raise prices to somewhere between $10.99 and $14.99 for new e-books, and e-booksellers aren't allowed to discount off of those prices.

Makes sense, right?

Well, here's the thing that's kind of wacky about the wholesale model vs. the agency model: the publisher made more money per copy with the wholesale model.

Again, napkin math for a $24.99 hardcover. Let's say the e-book would have sold for $9.99 at Amazon in the old days but now the publisher charges $12.99:

Wholesale model e-book:
Publisher: $12.50 (roughly 50% of $24.99 hardcover retail price)
Amazon: - $2.50 (selling at $9.99)

Agency model e-book:
Publisher:  $9.09 (70% of $12.99)
E-bookseller: $3.90 (30% of $12.99)

See what's happening there? Publishers left money on the table to have more control over pricing and so more e-booksellers could compete with the elephant in the Amazon.

The result: It actually seems to have worked. B&N now claims 25% market share in the e-book world, and with iBooks also going strong the competition in the e-book marketplace that publishers wanted appears to be taking place.

Where We Are Now

So now there's a system in place where print books are still sold based on the wholesale model and e-books are sold on the agency model. This results in.... curiosities.

Let's take one of the examples that had Reddit perplexed. THE GIRL WHO KICKED THE HORNET'S NEST is selling on Amazon for:

E-book: $11.99
Hardcover: $11.89

Doesn't make sense, right?

Well, here's how that breaks down between publisher and Amazon:

E-book: $11.99
Publisher: $8.39 (70% of e-book price)
Amazon: $3.60 (30% of e-book price)

Hardcover: $11.89
Publisher: $13.95 (50% of $27.95 list price)
Amazon: - $2.06 (customer price minus $13.95 paid to publisher)

So... unless there's some sort of special arrangement there, Amazon is using the hardcover as a loss leader.

And the publisher would tell you: we can't control that. All we can do is set our own prices, and what Amazon charges the consumer for print books is their business. Publishers make more money on the hardcover sale, they set the list price for the hardcover at $27.95 and the e-book at $11.99, and they don't have much incentive to discount the e-book any further than it already is.

I'm not privy to the strategic discussions at publishers, but if this also has the effect of slowing down the rate e-book adoption or steering people toward the print editions.... I'm guessing they're probably okay with that. They have print operations to consider and bookstores that they'd like to survive as long as possible. As long as it's still primarily a print world (and it is), publishers have many rational incentives to protect their print sales.

But the biggest problem, as that Reddit discussion illustrates, is that it creates a great deal of consumer confusion and angst. It doesn't make any intuitive sense for e-books to cost more than paper. By keeping e-book prices high, it opens up a huge opportunity for the 99-cent Kindle bestsellers to exploit. Also: As the music industry found out, annoy digital consumers at your peril.

And it just took almost a thousand words to explain why it's happening.

[Melkor]

Michael Stackpole asks Is Amazon the Sauron of Publishing?

Amazon's announcement of their new Science Fiction and Fantasy imprint, 47North, has got me looking toward the publishing future. There are certainly plenty of folks, most in traditional publishing and book retailing, who would agree that Amazon is Sauron, and that the Kindle is the One Ring, and that their goal is to completely vertically integrate publishing into a monopoly that squeezes everyone but authors and Amazon out of the picture. The fact that they've gone from being a retailer to a publisher with seven imprints (including the New York imprint—how's that for jabbing traditional publishers in the ribs?), would certainly seem to justify fears expressed by traditional publishers and every other retailer in the world.

Choosing to open a science fiction and fantasy imprint is significant, especially when one notes the line in the press release that says, "47North will publish original and previously published works, as well as out-of-print books." [Emphasis mine.] Speculative fiction has a good reputation as being a genre with a solid long-tail: backlist sales, when the books are available, remain strong. Readers who discover SF and discover an author tend to buy everything by that author that they can get their hands on. Publishers have been running around scooping up backlist rights as fast as they can (offering half of what they offered before 2009, and a quarter of what authors can make if they electronically self-publish those same titles). For harddrive space in a server farm, Amazon will produce a crop of perennial books which will sell steadily. With a little promotion, a series can take off, and sales of that author's other work will rise accordingly. Because of the "others also bought" feature at Amazon.com, one person's discovery will lead to others discovering authors who haven't been actively promoted.
More importantly, the "previously published" aspect of that comment is a key to Amazon's future. They have access to daily statistics and analysis that tells them which authors are trending or about to trend. Even before the authors themselves can translate daily sales figures into a projected future, Amazon will know which authors are going to be a good investment for 47North. They'll get to cherry pick talent and promote their "discoveries." Amazon also has the ability to promote digital sales of books and later on produce a print compilation of digital novels, offering a unique print product. This is actually stated as a plan in their press release.

Amazon will use its demographic data to pick winners out of a vast field of authors. This lack of demographic data has always been a weakness with traditional publishers. Traditional publishers have always been in the position of fighting the last war. The surprise popularity of The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo prompted publishers to search for bestselling crime novels that needed translation—a strategy which has failed to produce another It-Girl success. Amazon's willingness to promote authors—doubling down on an investment which they realize, by having data and analyzing it, is about to crest, simply makes good business sense. When was the last time traditional publishing ever threw promotional money at a title to lift its sales and boost its trend?

Publishers really can't ignore that this is a shot across their bows—though I imagine they will. Just the fact that Amazon pays on a monthly basis makes authors look on them favorably. Their willingness to promote is another plus. The fact that they're willing to let authors publish what they want when they want, regardless of whether or not a committee thinks it will be a blockbuster, is a third factor in their favor. True, in this latter case, publishers make a capital investment in books, so need to be sure that there is a reasonable expectation of a return on that investment, but by lowering overhead and by using electronic publishing as a farm system to develop writers, traditional publishers could successfully lock up talent, gather data for analysis, and guarantee that Amazon will have to deal with them if Amazon wants access to the properties they own.

Retailers are in an even more precarious situation. Barnes & Noble—and to a much lesser extent Apple & Google—has to look at securing its lines of supply. This includes physical books, certainly, but more importantly it means intellectual property. A key to their survival will be whether or not they choose to establish imprints as Amazon has done. Without exclusive content which draws customers to their stores (online and real world), they lose. For consumers, the choice comes down to going to Amazon, where they can get everything B&N offers plus exclusive content, or B&N, where they can't get the exclusive content. Human psychology dictates that even if the reader has no real desire for that exclusive content, they still feel constrained if they can't get it. They want the choice, and B&N isn't giving them that choice.

Brick and mortar retailers also have to look to their lines of supply. While independent bookstores may hate Amazon's discounting, they know that Amazon's promotion of titles will drive demand. Do they stick to their principles and refrain from trading with "the enemy" or do they order from Amazon and piggyback on Amazon's promotion to sell lots of books? It's a tough choice to make, but one that could spell the difference between going out of business and earning a profit. Since most independent books trade heavily on their sense of community—based around events held in the stores—the latter strategy can work very well for them. Cultivating a "stick it to the man" attitude in which patrons thumb their noses at Amazon by buying Amazon books at their local store definitely could work. (Brain bender, yes, but there's plenty of folks that would go for it.)

For authors, Amazon (and electronic publishing), looks very good. We earn 70% of a retail price we set, and we get the money in sixty days. Amazon spends a lot of money convincing people to buy empty boxes and allows me to supply the stuff they'll put in those boxes. While some might fear that Amazon—once it establishes its monopoly—will cut the pay rate or otherwise upset the apple-cart, I believe that worry is premature. Amazon's plan for complete vertical integration requires the compliance of authors. They need what we supply. When Amazon approaches that monopoly position, we know that there will be enough money involved in the business that investors—perhaps even the entertainment conglomerates who own the traditional publishers—will be willing to fund one or more rivals to Amazon's sales platform and delivery system. The fact that the new Kindles are based on Android means hackers will root them and be happy to supply links to other retail sites. Moreover, users of said devices will become more sophisticated and comfortable in finding those alternate retail sites. But even if Amazon were foolish enough to contemplate pulling a Walmart and demanding that suppliers take less, my guess is that we'd not face that situation for another three years anyway.

In terms of actually attaining a monopoly position, here things are more doubtful. Not only do they not control the raw material they sell, but there are lawyers and lawsuits lurking out there which pose a threat to that business model. I would imagine that legislation which taxed Internet sales might be threatened to curtail Amazon's more predatory tendencies; and then there are price-fixing and anti-trust lawsuits which could tie them up. Those cases could drag through the courts for years, if not decades, and with technology changing as swiftly as it does, advancement in delivery systems could render any and all monopolist dreams moot before any decision ever got handed down.
All in all I think the world of publishing today hasn't been changed by Amazon's announcement. Sure, the establishment of 47North should be a canary in the coal mine as far as traditional publishing is concerned, but it's the last in a long line of very dead canaries. I stand by my previous prediction that holidays 2011 will be the last gasp of traditional book retailing as we know it. Major contractions will come on the print side of things while electronics continue to grow an an increasing pace. I also suspect, along about next summer, when Internet sales again slump (as they tend to do while folks are outside, away from computers, spending money on vacations and stuff—what are they thinking?), that pundits will predict a resurgence of paper publishing. They'll even point to an uptick in sales to prove that point, but it will just be a dead-cat bounce. (From the Wall Street saying when a diving stock rebounds..."A dead-cat that bounces up, is still dead.)
For writers right now, the course to success is rather simple: create inventory. Bring backlist work into inventory. Write new work. Spread your work around to give readers a greater chance of discovering you. Worrying about price points and why you're not selling like Amanda Hocking is wasted energy. If electronic publishing is a tide which will raise all boats, the point is not to have the biggest boat. The point is to have as many boats as you can on the water. You want to have a fleet or two because that's how you maximize the benefit of the rising tide.

PS. Nastavlja se i u komentarima.

[Melkor]

Kindle lending library mere "exercise of brute economic power," says Authors Guild By Nate Anderson  | Published  about 16 hours ago



After seeing that a movie adaptation was in production, last week I downloaded Suzanne Collins' novel The Hunger Games—and I didn't pay a thing for it. But I didn't turn to piracy. Instead I visited Amazon.com, where the company's new "Kindle lending library" offers those with Kindle hardware and an Amazon Prime subscription one free book to read each month. It's a terrific new benefit for Prime users, and it's clearly designed to hook people on Amazon hardware (like the new Fire tablet) and digital content.
Amazon attracts more customers to e-books, readers get free content, and publishers get paid. Everyone's happy, right?
Wrong. The Authors Guild, which represents the interests of writers, blasted the program yesterday, saying that the lending library program is built on "nonsense" and a "tortured reading" of Amazon's contracts with publishers.
"Amazon, in other words, appears to be boldly breaching its contracts with these publishers," wrote the Guild. "This is an exercise of brute economic power."
According to the Guild, Amazon was unable to secure lending library deals from most major publishers, so it simply went ahead with the program. Instead of having a specific arrangement in place with publishers, Amazon just pays publishers the wholesale price each time a Prime member downloads a book from the lending library; in other words, Amazon treats each download like a sale and pays accordingly.
But the Guild argues that Amazon isn't really "selling" these books, but instead creating a new program with them for which it lacks any permission from publishers. Yes, publishers are getting paid, but they also want some level of control over how their works are used—and having Amazon unilaterally run a "lending" program where books cost end users nothing might not be appealing to some publishers who want to avoid even further price erosion in the e-book market.
"From our understanding of Amazon's standard contractual terms, this is nonsense—publishers did not surrender this level of control to the retailer," says the Guild. "Amazon's boilerplate terms specifically contemplate the sale of e-books, not giveaways, subscriptions, or lending (Amazon does have a lending program that some publishers have authorized, but it's a program that allows customers—not Amazon—to lend their purchased e-books). Amazon can make other uses of e-books only with the publishers' consent."
Publishers have long been at odds with Amazon, even though they've been paid for their books. For instance, Amazon used to run its e-books operation like a traditional retailer might; it paid the wholesale price for each book sold, but was free to set its own price however it liked. Amazon for a while tried to establish $9.99 as the standard e-book price, even when this meant selling at a loss. Publishers balked and used the appearance of the iPad (and Apple's own e-book store) to pressure Amazon into an "agency model" where the retailer simply takes a percentage of whatever price the seller picks. The idea was to prevent the book business from ceding too much power to a single retailer, as happened with iTunes and music.
Publishers and authors want more than a simple payment when a book is used; they want some say over those uses. The Kindle lending library looks like the newest battleground in a long war.

[Melkor]

Samo da se stavi u perspektivu sta je, u stvari, Amazon:

[Melkor]

Cutting their own throats

By Charlie Stross 

[Meho Krljic]

Pa naravno. DRM je, naravno, jedna od najzlokobnijih pojava poslednjih godina, motivisana, avaj, zaista kratkovidim poslovnim razmišljanjem.

[Melkor]

To stoji. Doduse Strosova kritika DRMa je malo iscasenija od uobicajene a ja, verovatno, imam predrasuda te mi je tesko da vidim Amazon kao loseg momka ovde (s obzirom na poreklo moje e-biblioteke, moguce da nisam ni u poziciji da komentarisem).

[Melkor]

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-28/amazon-adds-another-piece-to-its-growing-ebook-empire

Over the past few years, authors and publishers have had a new way to connect with their most voracious readers: Goodreads, a San Francisco-based social network for book lovers. Goodreads, which has more than 16 million members, is a digital manifestation of—and perhaps a gradual replacement for—the chatty independent bookstore clerk. Members in its 20,000 online book clubs can popularize new books, make the careers of authors, and generally share their exuberance for the pastime of reading.

For publishers, one virtue of the site has been its neutrality in the battle among Amazon (AMZN), Apple (AAPL), and the major book publishers over e-book prices and the future of the printed world. Some commentators even believed that Goodreads was well-positioned to one day start selling books directly.

Well, no more. On Thursday, Amazon announced it is buying Goodreads for an undisclosed amount.
For the last decade, Amazon has been unusually acquisitive in putting together all the pieces of a digital publishing ecosystem. It purchased French e-book software provider MobiPocket and the print-on-demand company BookSurge in 2005; another social network for readers, Shelfari, in 2008; and the British bookseller, Book Depository, in 2011, among other acquisitions. The company has also been minting imprints and directly publishing its own books to the Kindle, both from Seattle and from its own New York-based Amazon Publishing division.

For Jeff Bezos and his colleagues, the idea is to rebuild the publishing world from the ground up, with the Kindle e-reader and its associated apps for mobile devices the only things sitting between authors and readers. It's a bold vision, a way to keep customers accustomed to buying not just books from Amazon, but music, movies, and everything else. There's not necessarily much room for traditional book publishers and their accessories from another age, such as book warehouses and local bookstores.

The purchase of Goodreads fits this vision. Amazon can use the community to market its own books, allow Goodreads customers to buy directly from Amazon, and mine the social network for data on reading trends. Amazon says it will leave its latest acquisition in San Francisco, but you can expect to see new social tools popping up on Kindle devices and apps.

Mike Shatzkin, a book industry consultant at Idea Logical, sees all this as a huge missed opportunity for Amazon's competitors. "If a year ago, someone had come to me, and said, 'We want to compete with Amazon on books, what should we acquire?' the two companies I would have suggested are the Book Depository and Goodreads. And Amazon got 'em both, as far as I can tell, without anyone else firing a shot," Shatzkin said. "Shame on Barnes & Noble (BKS), shame on the big publishers, and shame on everyone else for letting this happen."

Shatzkin says the deal was an obvious one for Amazon. "If you sell books, having a community of people that love to talk about them is exactly what you want."

[Gaff]

Počelo je da se govorka da će i Goodreads da počne sa prodajom knjiga (ako već nije). Nedao bog da su počeli da prodaju nešto što nije za kindl, jelte.

[Gaff]

Evo još malo na temu Amazon kupio Goodreads

via Bookriot

[Nightflier]

Na stranu sve negativne strane Amazonovog još malo pa monopola, ali Amazon je omogućio da se neki pisci koji su iz raznih razloga (zdravstvenih, finansijskih, ličnih) prestali da objavljuju vrate na izdavačko tržište - što ne bi mogli sa tradicionalnim modelom izdavaštva. A videli smo na nekim primerima da pisci čiji naslovi dožive veliki uspeh u elektronskom formatu vrlo brzo dožive papirno izdanje svojih radova. Nije sve baš toliko crno, that's what I'm sayin'.

[Albedo 0]

molim vas, može li neko da pogleda ovaj pdf, ne mogu da ga otvorim, prijavljuje neku grešku

http://www.2shared.com/document/4VyLRZT6/Internet_Politics_-_States_Cit.html

[tomat]

meni kaže kako oće da se konektuje na Amazon, ali mu ne dadoh.

edit: kad sam već tu, tražim ovu knjigu u električnom formatu

Handbook of Manufacturing Control: Fundamentals, description, configuration

nosio sam se mišlju da je kupim ali je poskupa, plus će me ovi naši dočekati sa PDV-om.

[Albedo 0]

libgen.info ti ima knjigu na njemačkom jeziku, ako ti to nešto znači

meni kaže kako oće da se konektuje na Amazon, ali mu ne dadoh.

meni čak ni to nije uradio, znači prevara, blah

[tomat]

libgen.info ti ima knjigu na njemačkom jeziku, ako ti to nešto znači

znam za to, ali mi je na nemačkom od male koristi.

[Albedo 0]

ako si strpljiv, pokušaj ponovo kasnije, često mi se dešavalo da se knjiga koju tražim pojavi za mjesec, dva

[Albedo 0]

ima li ko van Balkana da mi skine ovu knjigu, ''its not available'' po ovim exyu republikama

http://www.scribd.com/doc/143796048/Baudrillard-Now-Current-Perspectives-in-Baudrillard-Studies.html

[Albedo 0]

ima li ko van Balkana da mi skine ovu knjigu, ''its not available'' po ovim exyu republikama

http://www.scribd.com/doc/143796048/Baudrillard-Now-Current-Perspectives-in-Baudrillard-Studies.html

pliiiiiizzzzz 

[Albedo 0]

opet poluoftopik

kako da citiram knjigu u epub formatu?

nema klasičnih stranica, ili ja ne vidim kako da ih nađem

[Irena Adler]

Ako čitaš sa telefona iz Aldika može da ti pokaže broj stranice na kojoj si. Sad, da li taj broj stranice odgovara nekom hipotetičkom hard copy originalu, pojma nemam. Ima nekih preporuka na tu temu (uglavnom se svode na to da navedeš broj i naziv poglavlja):

http://www.mla.org/style/handbook_faq/cite_an_ebook