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scallop

Uvek sam govorio da je nama veća šteta sa demokratama. Oni su uvek sumnjivi velikom kapitalu, a republikanci nisu, pa su podatni do krajnosti. Tako, posle jednog do dva mandata, ostave ih u rezervu do sledeće (ne)prilike. Logika političkog ponašanja SAD daleko je jednostavnija od onoga šta mi mislimo. A dobro funkcionisanje privrede je proisteklo iz toga što su svoja sranja dobro udali u Evropu.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

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Meho Krljic

Tekst iz Aprila 1998. godine koji govori o potencijanim rizicima uvođenja zakedničke evropske valute  :lol: :lol: :lol:


http://www.euromoney.com/Article/1005607/SS-Euro-sinking-the-unsinkable.html?single=true


Meho Krljic

Ovo ste verovatno videli na vestima pre neki dan. Iako nije baš da se radi o crno-beloj situaciji, vredi ovo pročitati jer, obrni-okreni, veliki deo razloga što izbeglice postoje počiva u nemačkoj spoljnoj politici:

Angela Merkel should be ashamed of her response to this sobbing Palestinian girl

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On Tuesday, German Chancellor Angela Merkel stood in front of a live TV camera and told a sobbing teenage girl that she couldn't stay in Germany.

The 13-year-old girl had, years earlier, fled a Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon with her family. They settled in the German city of Rostock where, four years later, she ended up as one of several local teenagers on a TV program called "Good Life in Germany," meeting Angela Merkel.

"I have goals like everyone else," she explained in fluent German to a visibly shocked  Merkel. "I want to go to university, that's a goal I want to achieve."

But instead, she explained, she faces deportation along with the rest of her family. It was terribly difficult, she said in a shaky voice, to see others enjoying their lives in Germany but feel she could not participate.

Merkel seemed momentarily speechless, at first responding with nothing more than a stern "Hmm."

Although she collected herself after a moment, the response she came up with wasn't much of an improvement: "Politics is hard sometimes."

In what was presumably an attempt to be friendly, Merkel told the devastated teen that "when you are standing in front of me, you are a very likable person," but that "there are thousands and thousands more in the Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon. And if we say 'you can all come here, you can all come over from Africa,' we can't cope with that."

Merkel pivoted to a dry discussion of her plans to speed up processing times for refugee cases, but by then the stricken teen had begun to sob. Merkel walked over and patted the girl on the shoulder, but couldn't console her.
Merkel's response feels wrong, because it is
If it feels unjust to see one of the most powerful people in the world tell a crying child that her future dreams have to be destroyed because "politics is hard sometimes," that's because it is unjust. Germany's attitude toward refugees is wrong, and it's hurting innocent people. And Merkel knows that — she's just not used to being confronted with evidence of it on live TV.

In her response, Merkel was trying to imply that if Germany treats this girl and her family leniently, it will somehow be obligated to accept the entire world's refugees. But that's disingenuous. There is no mechanism by which that would happen. There is no rule that says that if Germany grants asylum to a family in Rostock then it has to accept every Palestinian in a Lebanese camp, or everyone from "Africa." There is no slippery slope here because there isn't a slope at all. Right now, Germany has a legal obligation to protect refugees who are inside its borders, and no legal obligation to protect those who are outside them. Granting this girl and her family refugee status, visas, or even just temporary relief from deportation wouldn't change that in the slightest.

What Merkel really means is that there are currently millions of people in the world who could have valid asylum claims, and she's worried they'll all come to Germany if it seems even slightly welcoming. So Germany deports people like this young Palestinian and her family to set an example that's just cruel enough to serve as a deterrent.

But that is also deeply unjust. Refugees exist. They are already desperate, already fleeing their homes, and they have to go somewhere. Germany may think it's facing a refugee crisis, but the truth is that it's hosting only a tiny fraction of the people who are fleeing war or other persecution.

Turkey, Jordan, and Lebanon are hosting millions of refugees. This is a global problem and Germany is doing remarkably little to shoulder its share of burden, though it is far more capable of doing so than is, say, Lebanon. What Merkel is arguing isn't that she is incapable of doing more, but rather that her country — like other European countries — is somehow exempt from the responsibility of giving shelter to vulnerable people.

The implication of this is that far poorer and less stable countries must carry Germany's burden for it, and because they have no other choice, they are. Because refugees are unable to reach countries such as Germany or know they face possible deportation once they reach there, they are stuck in what are often underfunded or unsafe camps.

Sure, "politics is hard sometimes." For Merkel, it's hard because she might lose an election. For refugees, it's hard because it leaves them vulnerable to persecution or death.

I can see how she would expect a desperate, sobbing child to understand that.
Of course Germany could "cope" with more refugees
Even if it were somehow true that treating existing asylum seekers more leniently would force Germany to accept much greater numbers of people, it's simply nonsense that Germany "can't cope with that."

Of course it can.

Germany is one of the wealthiest nations on earth. Its GDP is the fifth-largest in the world and the largest in Europe. If there were a commission somewhere making an objective evaluation of which countries have the resources and stability to handle an influx of refugees from humanitarian crisis, Germany would surely be high on the list. It would certainly be higher than the countries actually hosting large refugee influxes such as Jordan, Lebanon, or Turkey, which are not only poorer (ranked No. 85, 86, and 17 by GDP respectively), but also face greater political instability and are threatened directly by the conflicts on their borders.

More importantly, the question of "coping" assumes that taking in more refugees would be a burden on the German economy — but there's no compelling reason to believe that they would. As my colleague Dylan Matthews points out, the economic case that immigration harms receiving countries is very weak. While there could potentially be some narrow negative effects, such as unskilled wages falling because of an influx of unskilled labor, there's no reason to believe that more immigration, humanitarian or otherwise, is a net negative.

Germany also, by the way, is suffering from a demographic decline. Not only can its economy handle more people, but it is imperiled by having too few people. Letting this girl and her family stay in Rostock wouldn't be some burden on Germany, but a boon to it.

Merkel simply wasn't telling that crying teenager the truth. Germany can cope with taking in more refugees, and would probably even benefit from doing so. It just doesn't want to.
Germany's shameful treatment of asylum seekers
The televised encounter between Merkel and the sobbing girl was especially upsetting because it was so personal, and so unexpected. It's not every day that one watches a world leader coldly tell a vulnerable child that she'll need to take her concerns elsewhere because "politics is hard."

But the truth about the situation of asylum seekers in Germany is actually much uglier. Arson attacks on refugee hostels are a growing problem across the country. Just today, arsonists burned down a building outside Munich that was supposed to house 67 refugees. In April, there was an attack on a building in the city of Tröglitz. Before that, Der Spiegel reports, there were similar attacks in and around Hamburg, Munich, Berlin, and Sanitz. Right-wing groups committed more than 500 violent xenophobic attacks last year.

One neo-Nazi group has created a searchable online map called "no refugee center in my backyard" that shows refugees' homes as well as other refugee facilities. In the context of the other arson attacks, that cannot be taken as anything but a threat that they should be next.

Imagine, for a moment, how it must feel to be a refugee living with that kind of fear: knowing that you fled persecution in your home country only to be confronted by xenophobic violence after you thought you had reached safety.

It would be ridiculous to argue that governments should make policy based on what a sad child asked for during a televised town hall. But in this case, Merkel was confronted with the human face of the inhumane, unsound, and hypocritical policies she already has in place, and couldn't come up with a better response than "politics is hard."

Sure, politics is hard. But while that might be a reason for doing the wrong thing, it isn't an excuse for it.


varvarin

Emiru Kusturici Ukrajinci nisu dozvolili da tamo održi koncert. OK, ne sviđa im se što je podržao rusku aneksiju Krima.

http://www.b92.net/kultura/vesti.php?nav_category=1087&yyyy=2015&mm=07&dd=18&nav_id=1017018

Ono što me malo iznenadilo, to je broj jurišnika na B92 koji zatim požuriše da Kusturici ispsuju i oca i majku. Zbog svega i svačega, čak i zbog toga što se odrekao islama, i što nije bio korektan prema Sarajlijama (!) Ovde:

http://www.b92.net/kultura/komentari.php?nav_id=1017018

Dobro, oko tih jurišnika,  jeste da ima izreka: "Pas laje, vetar nosi!"  ali ipak...


varvarin

http://bulevar.b92.net/bizar.php?yyyy=2015&mm=07&dd=20&nav_id=1017654


Kineskinje napadaju grudima: Policajac tužio zbog povrede nanete ovim neobičnim oružjem
...Nije poznato da li je policajac pretrpeo bilo kakve povrede, jer kakve povrede mogu da nanesu grudi. Naime, policajac Čan Kapu tvrdi da ga je Ng udarila dojkom i na snimku sa protesta se vidi da mu curi krv iz nosa, prenosi "Saut čajna morning post".

Meho Krljic

Čekajte da se ovoga Vučić dočepa:


Jeremy Hunt raises doubts about long-term future of free NHS

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Jeremy Hunt has raised doubts about the NHS remaining an entirely taxpayer-funded service in the long term, days after a fellow health minister also warned that soaring demand for patient care could force a rethink on where its money comes from.
The health secretary expressed doubts about the future sustainability of the funding system that has existed since the service's creation in 1948 after delivering a speech setting out his "25-year vision for the NHS" in London on Thursday.
His comments come days after David Prior, the ex-Conservative MP and hospital trust chairman who recently became a health minister in the Lords, warned that the premise of a tax-funded model would have to be questioned if patient demand for care outstripped economic growth.
Hunt's speech also led to a major clash with the British Medical Association over his threat to force senior hospital doctors to work at weekends unless they agree to do so within six weeks. The BMA condemned Hunt's move as "a wholesale attack on doctors", amid speculation that consultants could consider taking industrial action in protest.
Asked on Thursday if he could guarantee that the current NHS funding model – with the £117bn budget solely provided by taxpayers – could survive for the next 25 years, Hunt replied: "I am confident but I don't have a crystal ball. If I look at the challenges we face in delivering the Forward View [NHS England's blueprint for the service's transformation by 2020], I think that our model will work. But it's going to need a huge effort from NHS organisations and NHS leaders to deliver that."


Labour claimed that Hunt's failure to rule out any change to the existing system could mean that charges might ultimately be introduced for NHS services.
"Jeremy Hunt's refusal to guarantee that an NHS free-at-the-point-of-use will continue under the Tories is very worrying indeed, though sadly not surprising given he once put his name to a pamphlet arguing the NHS should be replaced with an insurance-based system," said shadow health minister Jamie Reed.
"It could mean charges for treatment are just around the corner. Prior to the election American doctors warned that the Tories were taking the NHS down a path towards a US-style system and it now looks as if this was a prescient warning," he added.
"The truth is that the NHS simply won't be here in 25 years' time if the Tories are allowed to continue with their toxic plans for cuts, charges and privatisation."
Hunt recently endorsed "in principle" patients being charged for not turning up for a GP appointment, as a way of reducing waste in the NHS. However, Downing Street quickly disowned the idea and stressed there was no intention to introduce such a system.
Lord Prior also backed calls from peers for experts to investigate how best the NHS can continue to receive the money it needs to cope with rising demand, technological change and increasing patient expectations about their treatment.
His comments came during a House of Lords debate on the NHS on 9 July, which had gone unreported until now.



Responding to Lord Patel, Prior replied that he was happy "to discuss this [the future funding of the NHS] in more detail to see whether we can frame some kind of independent inquiry. I do not think that it needs to be a royal commission."
Experts such as the King's Fund or Nuffield Trust health thinktanks could undertake the work, he suggested.
"At heart, our ability to have a world-class health system will depend on our ability to create the wealth in this country to fund it. I am personally convinced, having looked at many other funding systems around the world, that a tax-funded system is the right one."
But he then countenanced the possibility of that system ending when he said: "However, if demand for healthcare outstrips growth in the economy for a prolonged period, of course that premise has to be questioned."



His idea is similar to that put forward during the election campaign by the then coalition Liberal Democrat health minister, Norman Lamb. The pressures on the NHS's current and future funding were so great that politicians needed to set aside their differences and convene a non-partisan commission to see how the service's needs could be best met, he urged.
"It's never been more pressurised on the NHS frontline than today," Hunt told NHS leaders in his speech at the King's Fund.
He supported the way the NHS was currently funded as the best model. "But I think the principle that sits behind it is one that we all feel very strongly about. Social equity is at the heart of what the NHS stands for. It's what makes the British public say time after time it is what makes them most proud to be British.
"But if we're going to continue to deliver that we have to be ambitious about new models of care," he added.

Ghoul

pa naravno da je degen otišo na tzv. 'političke nauke'! xuss

Anders Breivik accepted at Norway's University of Oslo

17 July 2015

Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik has won a place to study political science at Oslo's university.

The 36 year old admitted killing 77 people when he bombed central Oslo and then went on a shooting spree at a youth camp on a nearby island in 2011.

Breivik has been studying certain course modules since first applying to the University of Oslo in 2013, but he will now be taught as a full student.

He will have no contact with staff or students as he studies from his cell.
In 2012, he was sentenced to the maximum 21 years in prison for carrying out Norway's worst massacre since World War Two.
This jail term can be extended if he is deemed to remain a danger to society.
The university's rector, Ole Petter Ottersen, said that Norwegian inmates "have a right to pursue higher education in Norway if they meet the admission requirements and are successful in competition with other applicants."
Writing on the university's website, Mr Ottersen admitted that the university had faced "moral dilemmas" about Breivik's admission.
The rector added that the university had students whose family members had been killed by Breivik. However, he said that the university would abide by its rules "for our own sake, not for his."
As he studies from his prison, Breivik will be subject to strict regulations. He will be allowed no access to internet resources or receive any personal guidance from tutors. All communication with the university will take place via "a contact person in prison".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33571929
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Dybuk

Perverzno. Taman htedoh reci sta ce mu to kad ce biti u zatvoru do kraja zi....kad ono osudjen na 21 godinu a mozda izadje i ranije zbog dobrog vladanja :roll:
Bice nesto od mladica, napravice prelom u mozak sigurno. :x Verovatno je jos i na budzetu.

Meho Krljic

Pa, kao prvo, verovatno hoće biti u zatvoru do kraja života jer ova presuda koju ima je najviša koju propisuje norveško zakonodavstvo, ali puštanje na slobodu ovakvog osuđenika podrazumeva komisijsku potvrdu da se on više ne smatra opasnim po okolinu, koju verovatno neće nikada dobiti. A kao drugo, kada je čovek u zatvoru dve decenije ili ceo ostatak životnog veka, zaista je zgodno da mu se pruži prilika da radi nešto što se smatra konstruktivnim i poboljšavajućim za ličnost - kao što su na primer univerzitetske studije - jer zatvor, barem po norveškom shvatanju, ne služi da kazni osobu već da je razdvoji od zajednice dok je štetna po zajednicu i da je, ako je može, učini manje štetnom po zajednicu, odnosno kadrijom da se u zajednicu kasnije uklopi na koristan (po zajednicu i osobu) način. Evo relevantnog novinskog napisa:



A Different Justice: Why Anders Breivik Only Got 21 Years for Killing 77 People

Dybuk

Ne bi mu ja pruzila priliku da prekracuje dane s necim sto ce biti korisno za licnost, kao sto 77 ljudi nema tu priliku zahvaljujuci njemu. Ali to je Norveska.

дејан

да искористим прилику и цитирам себе од пре пар година


Quote from: дејан on 25-07-2011, 13:32:33
21а година није баш стриктно прописана за убиство 90+ људи...претпостављам да знаш, убиство једне особе под одређеним околностима може довести до пресуде на 21у годину
њихова казнена политика је једна од најблажих на свету. услови у затворима сигурно најбољи...процени сама да ли ће доћи до тога да 'га врло маторог пребаце у самтрничку постељу'
ја мислим да неће, у најбољем случају ће одлежати тих 20 кусур прописаних...а ако 'његови' дођу на влас'....ето покајања...привремене (сталне) неурачунљивости...омамљености од ђубрива...превише хришћанског рока...

(и то сад кад је норвешки блек метал напокон дошао до дипломатских кругова, дође им неки хришћански фундаменталиста и оствари влажни сан хиљаде и хиљаде верника у црну вештину...срамота за блек метал)


а могу и да додам, да ће његово завршавање факултета, курса доброг владања, кувања, повијања беба и плетења (са елементима кукичања и хеклања) сигурно допринети перцепцији да је дотични постао безопасан по околину и користан по заједницу
...barcode never lies
FLA

Ugly MF

I ja bi ga poslo u zatvor na 21 godinu....u recimo Brazil....

Dybuk

Tursku...ili neki od onih Banged up abroad zatvora :evil:

Meho Krljic

Quote from: Dybuk on 22-07-2015, 11:34:28
Ne bi mu ja pruzila priliku da prekracuje dane s necim sto ce biti korisno za licnost, kao sto 77 ljudi nema tu priliku zahvaljujuci njemu. Ali to je Norveska.

Poštujem, al Norveška generalno ulaže u ovakve sisteme da bi smanjila povratništvo. To jest, ideja je da prestupnika u zatvoru i posle zatvora uvedeš u "pravo" društvo versus ostavljanja ga da tavori u kriminogenom mikrodruštvu. I ne može da se kaže da Norvežani nemaju rezultate. Kod njih je udeo povratnika među zatvorenicima oko jedne petine, dakle, najmanji u Skandinaviji, dok je, poređenja radi, u SAD, koji su bliži ideji kažnjavanja osuđenika  oko dve trećine. (Edit: kod nas je pre desetak godina bilo više od 70% povratnika i ne verujem da se situacija drastično promenila u međuvremenu.) Sa čisto praktične strane, investicija u konstruktivnije provođenje vremena u zatvoru deluje kao da daje socijalno poželjnije rezultate.

Ima ovde vrlo opširan ali vrlo zanimljiv tekst o tome kako to Norvežani rade i koliko ulažu.

Quote from: дејан on 22-07-2015, 11:38:28

а могу и да додам, да ће његово завршавање факултета, курса доброг владања, кувања, повијања беба и плетења (са елементима кукичања и хеклања) сигурно допринети перцепцији да је дотични постао безопасан по околину и користан по заједницу

:lol: Sigurno. Ali zato se odluka ne donosi na osnovu percepcije nego nju donosi stručna komisija koja, valjda, zna šta radi. Valjda.  :shock:

scallop

Kao i u nekim drugim slučajevima neću se složiti sa tobom jer su tvoje komparacije periferne, ograničene i usmerene. Norveška se ne može porediti ni sa nama, a ni sa SAD. Bre, nama su već oteli sve što je moglo da iole da ostvari ekonomsko okruženje u kojem bi povratništvo moglo da bude redukovano, a u Norvešku su emigrirale samo kraljevske krabe koje su zapatili Rusi. U SAD je rasni problem, umesto da nestane, kulminirao i nema šanse da bude bolje. Ipak, pojava idiota poput ovog što potamani silnu raju govori da potmulo postoje drugi problemi koji će tek da narastu.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Dybuk

Ma ko ce ovog ispraviti, s 30+ godina pobio toliku omladinu, nema tu popravke, covek je fanatik, psihopata i opasan po drustvo. Hitler jungen, kad god da izadje prerano je izasao.
Ja verujem da zatvor treba da bude kazna a ne rehabilitacija posebno u ovako teskim slucajevima (ne govorim o sitnim lopovima i narkomanima vec o masovnim ili sadistickim ubicama) jer su neki ljudi too far gone za ikakvu rehabilitaciju. Sve je to lepo sto oni pokusavaju da urade ali skupo i beskorisno i na koncu nefer prema zrtvama i njihovim porodicama.

Ugly MF

qote Scallop: ... potmulo postoje drugi problemi koji će tek da narastu.

Meho Krljic

Quote from: scallop on 22-07-2015, 12:45:53
Kao i u nekim drugim slučajevima neću se složiti sa tobom jer su tvoje komparacije periferne, ograničene i usmerene.

Stanje redovno, rekao bih  :lol:


Quote from: scallop on 22-07-2015, 12:45:53Norveška se ne može porediti ni sa nama, a ni sa SAD. Bre, nama su već oteli sve što je moglo da iole da ostvari ekonomsko okruženje u kojem bi povratništvo moglo da bude redukovano, a u Norvešku su emigrirale samo kraljevske krabe koje su zapatili Rusi.


Actually, tekst koji sam linkovao al koji niko nije pročitao pošto je vrućina i kome je do čitanja, dakle taj tekst ukazuje da su samo oko tri petine zatvorenika u zatvoru koji tekst obrađuje (a koji je namenjen počiniocima najtežih, nasilnih dela) građani Norveške, dok su ostali migranti iz raznih Azija i Afrika itd.  Dakle, niks, krave krabe, nego kojekakvi ljudi.



Quote from: scallop on 22-07-2015, 12:45:53U SAD je rasni problem, umesto da nestane, kulminirao i nema šanse da bude bolje.

Pa, da, nije da Afroamerikanci nisu dobili svog predstavnika u vrhu vlasti, da se procenat Afroamerikanaca koji upišu koledž povećao za 17% u roku pet godina (2008.-2013.), da je Obamacare obuhvatio zdravstvenim osiguranjem gomilu pripadnika nacionalnih & rasnih manjina koji mu ranije nisu imali pristup itd. Naravno da stvari nisu idilične, Afroamerikanci i Hispanoamerikanci i dalje u proseku žive znatno siromašnije od generalne populacije i sve su siromašniji u poslednjih petnaestak godina, tu nema rasprave, kao što nema rasprave o tome da je medijski vrlo prisutno kada policija primenjuje neporporcionalnu silu prema Afroamerikancima i to se završi tragično, ali ne bih ja baš to tako starozavetno proročki ocenio sa "nema šanse da bude bolje".

Quote from: Dybuk on 22-07-2015, 12:56:22
Ja verujem da zatvor treba da bude kazna a ne rehabilitacija posebno u ovako teskim slucajevima (...) jer su neki ljudi too far gone za ikakvu rehabilitaciju. Sve je to lepo sto oni pokusavaju da urade ali skupo i beskorisno i na koncu nefer prema zrtvama i njihovim porodicama.

Može da se raspravlja o pravičnosti, svakako, ali kako sam gore naveo, cilj je da se smanji stopa povratnika, dakle, da kada si osobu propustio kroz instituciju ona više ne biva antisocijalni agens i zapravo doprinosi društvu. I Norvežani neke rezultate u tom smislu imaju. Njihova ideja da neko ko je osuđen za zločin može da se učini neškodljivim za društvo putem zatvrskog sistema koji je socijalno podsticajan pali u četiri od pet slučajeva dok američki sistem koji je naklonjeniji kažnjavanju u dva od tri slučajeva ne proizvodi isti efekat. Naravno da bi se stopostotni efekat postizao time da svakoga odmah osudimo na doživotnu robiju ili smrtnu kaznu ali to tek deluje draonski i nepravično.

Apropo konkretnog slučaja - kako rekoh, malo je verovatno da će Brejvik ikada biti oslobođen, to je naširoko publikovano još u vreme izricanja kazne.

scallop

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 22-07-2015, 13:38:33

Dakle, niks, krave krabe, nego kojekakvi ljudi.



Kraljevske krabe. Mene niko ovde ne čita s pažnjom. Moja boljka - precenjujem ljude. Imao sam nameru da istaknem da su, pored nafte, najbogatijih lovišta ribe, i kraljevske krabe migrirale iz Severnog ledenog okeana gde su ih Rusi zapatili. A funtu nogu tih kraba sam u SAD plaćao preko 20$.


Isto tako, savetujem svima da budu oprezni sa statistikama. I njih prave ljudi, a ljudi su grešni, potkupljivi i sa raznim namerama.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Karl Rosman

Kad smo kod norveskih zatvora.  Pre neku godinu na Beldoksu sam gledao "Katedrale kulture", jedan segment bio je posvecen zatvoru Halden. Mislim da je situacija skoro pa posteno prikazana. Nije to bas med i mleko.

http://youtu.be/KJs9sr6QIK4?list=PL674RScvTtnMpPSpN9pFUkMANzsjrMifF


Na drugoj strani, moj dobar drugar je odlezao sedam godina zbog , khm, nedozvoljenog transporta opijata iz Male Azije u EU, i posto je nekim slucajem rodjen pod srecnom zvezdom, uhapsen je u Svedskoj, a ne u Turskoj. U jednoj od seansi putem Skajpa (da, imaju internet caffe, teretanu, bazen, X box...itd.) rece mi: "Matori, u zatvoru nikad bolje! Samo da nije zatvorenika...", potom je usledio thousand-yard stare...
 
"On really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion."
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won over it"

Meho Krljic

Ma, ne mora da se stalno ponavlja to da su statistike nešto čemu ne smemo slepo verovati, to smo već mnogo puta rekli ovde i mislim da su svi svesni da kad potežemo statistiku u forumskoj raspravi, to nije čin izricanja apsolutne & neporecive istine izrečene direktno iz božijih usta, već brza, jeftina orijentacija u prostoru u kome se često izbacuju kojekakvi mitovi i personalna uverenja pod krinkom nekakvih objektivnih fakata.

Norveška apsolutno ima povoljne privredne indikatore, ali opet, budimo svesni da je to u velikoj meri i posledica njihovog mentaliteta koji podrazumeva i stvari kao što su ravnomernija redistribucija dobiti (država hendluje pare od nafte, porezi su ekstremno visoki), institucionalizacija socijalnog staranja na vrlo visokom nivou (njihovi programi brige za starije su verovatno najboilji na svetu), pa onda i ovakav odnos prema osuđenicima/ prestupnicima. Možda nisu Norvežani sve u pravu, dalekobilo da su oni bezgrešni, ali ne treba olako odbacivati njihove rezultate na polju kreiranja države blagostanja kao posledice opsežnog socijalnog inženjeringa i sve pripisati samo sreći da imaju naftu i krabe. Imaju naftu i u Alžiru i Nigeriji i Libiji pa im to nije donelo norveški standard i prijateljstvo sa NATOm itd.

scallop

Ti u Alžiru, Nigeriji i Libiji nikada nisu imali svoju naftu. Da je sutra nađemo ovde ni mi je ne bismo imali. Da škriljci nisu ponovo ispali iz zone isplativosti eksploatisanja i njih bi nam uzeli. Ne bi nam vredeli nikakvi socijalni programi.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

Tako je. A Norvežani su pametni (istorijski, dugoročno pametni) pa iako su mala nacija sa relativno skromnom nacionalnom istorijom, uspeli su da budu tu gde jesu - osnovali su NATO dok su još bili relativno siromašna skandinavska država, sad neće da uđu u EU jer im se može da ne uđu ali imaju skoro sve prednosti EU a izbegli su dobar deo mana itd. Opet, da ne bude da ja njih predstavljam kao raj na zemlji, daleko od toga, ali jesu primer za zemlju koja je i pre otkrića nafte krajem šezdesetih već imala jasno uspostavljenu državnu ekonomiju sa ozbiljnom regulativom i kontrolom tržišta ali i socijalnom odgovornošću dispergovanom kroz građanstvo a koja kombinacija je na kraju proizvela kvalitetnog međunarodnog ekonomskog i političkog igrača sa vrlo solidnim socijalnim indikatorima. Možda ovi zatvori tu igraju neku ulogu. Možda i ne.

scallop

Si bio nekada u Norveškoj? Ja sam 1970. propustio da u Oslu kupim kitovinu.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

Nisam nikad. Ali sam godinama radio sa Norvežanima (i slušao norvešku muziku) pa su me malo indoktrinirali  :lol:

Nightflier

Meho, prestani da smaraš i lepo priznaj da zapravo ti glumiš Rola u "Vikinzima" :D
Sebarsko je da budu gladni.
First 666

Meho Krljic

Ne, ja sam ona devojčica što smo je upamtili iz prve sezone  :lol:

Nightflier

Sebarsko je da budu gladni.
First 666


Nightflier

Sebarsko je da budu gladni.
First 666

Father Jape

Ipak dajemo glas devojci ovog puta. Tako da je tentativna lista:

1. Meho
2. Žensko čeljade s druge slike
3. Baja sa sekirom (može to i bolje)
Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Nightflier

Ali Meho sa sekirom... ništa kao taporče da istakne muževnost & senzualnost...
Sebarsko je da budu gladni.
First 666


Dybuk

Pronadjen Amerikanac Koji je Ubio Najpoznatijeg Lava Zimbabvea

QuoteTurista koji je platio na hiljade dolara da ubije najpoznatijeg lava u Zimbabveu nije Španac, kako se ranije mislilo, nego jedan američki zubar.
Vlasti Zimbabvea objavile su da je Volter Palmer iz Mineapolisa platio 55.000 dolara mita čuvarima rezervata divljih životinja, kako bi mu dozvolili da ubije lava Sesila samostrelom.

Životinja je pronađena odrana i obezglavljena na obodima Huange nacionalnog parka.

Bolesnik. xuss

tomat

Quote from: Dybuk on 29-07-2015, 13:36:42
Pronadjen Amerikanac Koji je Ubio Najpoznatijeg Lava Zimbabvea

QuoteTurista koji je platio na hiljade dolara da ubije najpoznatijeg lava u Zimbabveu nije Španac, kako se ranije mislilo, nego jedan američki zubar.
Vlasti Zimbabvea objavile su da je Volter Palmer iz Mineapolisa platio 55.000 dolara mita čuvarima rezervata divljih životinja, kako bi mu dozvolili da ubije lava Sesila samostrelom.

Životinja je pronađena odrana i obezglavljena na obodima Huange nacionalnog parka.

Bolesnik. xuss


još malo o tome

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33695872
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded.


mac

Tramp koristi kandidaturu za neke svoje ekonomske potrebe. Neko oslobađanje od poreza, ili dodatni prihod, ili šta već. Za njega bi bila propast da zaista pobedi, i zato je i pozvao Pejlinovku, da se osigura.

Albedo 0

kako može nešto da zaradi od kandidature, pojma nemam, jesi siguran da on može bilo kakve pare da zadrži

mada, lik je i bez ovoga karikatura, totalno ludilo je što je prvi na polovima

npr, žali se što su se fabrike preselile u Kinu i Meksiko, a on sam preselio i svoje nešto proizvodi u Aziji :)

Meho Krljic

'Extremely difficult' for France to sell Mistral warships: experts


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Paris (AFP) - After cancelling the sale to Russia, France finds itself lumbered with two giant Mistral warships which it will find "extremely difficult" to re-sell and cannot afford to keep, say experts.
The pair of 200-metre (650-foot) amphibious helicopter-carriers were due for delivery to Russia by the end of this year in a deal worth an estimated 1.2 billion euros ($1.3 billion).
Instead, they are docked in the western French port at St Nazaire after Paris put the deal on ice in response to Russia's aggression in Ukraine last year.
The deal was formally cancelled on Wednesday, and within hours French Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said "several" countries had expressed an interest in buying the ships, without giving details.
"It's desirable that we sell them as quickly as possible," he told RTL radio.
But experts say France will have its work cut out in offloading them.
"Selling someone ships these days is extremely difficult," said Ben Moores, a defence analyst for IHS Jane's in London.
"They will have to seriously cut their price to make it attractive to another country. It could take years."

However, French President Francois Hollande doesn't see it that way.
"There will be no difficulty in finding buyers," Hollande told reporters Thursday about selling the two Mistrals, speaking in Egypt where he attended a ceremony for the extension of the Suez Canal waterway.
Plenty of militaries are in need of new warships -- IHS Jane's estimates there are 13 countries needing a total of 26 amphibious assault vessels over the next decade.
In theory, Moores said, the Mistrals are very re-sellable "because the only big thing Russia changed is they put their own communications system onboard, which is not hard to take out these days."
But most countries with the money and desire to buy boats of that size have their own ship-building industries.
"The problem France will have to overcome is domestic ship-building lobbies. If a country like Turkey decides to buy these ships, that would mean thousands of people would be laid off from a shipyard," said Moores.
"And there's a question of national pride in saying 'we build our own ships'."

- 'Absolutely have to sell' -
Meanwhile, France already has three Mistrals in its fleet, and doesn't have the funds to add two more.
"Keeping them would mean not only paying for them, but also making them run -- creating crews, docking them, maintaining them," said a senior procurement officer in the French military, who was not authorised to give his name.
"We absolutely have to sell them."
But only a handful of countries will be able to make use of them, said Admiral Alain Coldefy, a former inspector general of the French military.
"We need countries that want to intervene in the world... with the resources to buy such sophisticated, top-of-the-line boats. They also need well-trained crews."
He said the ideal situation would be for the European Union to purchase them, but years of effort to bolster Europe's collective defence have made little headway.
An added problem for France will come when Russia comes to dismantle its communications equipment.
"The Russians will no doubt take their time in a bid to steal as much technology as possible, as usual," said Coldefy.
"They say they can make these boats themselves, but really they are far behind."
According to IHS Jane's, the 13 countries needing a warship in the next decade -- and with any hope of buying one from France -- are Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Germany, India, Japan, Malaysia, The Netherlands, Singapore, Turkey and Venezuela.
Of those, only India and Turkey need a ship in the next four years, and New Delhi recently said it would stop importing warships and try to make its own, while Ankara aims to become a net exporter of naval vessels.
"Others could come up," said Moores. "Especially associated with tensions in the South China Sea" where China's claim to regional control have raised concerns among its neighbours.
"But only a few of these ships get sold every year, so it's going to be tough."



Meho Krljic

Uber, navodno, zapravo gubi novac. Mada je zanimljivo kako firma koja u suštini samo radi na razvoju JEDNE aplikacije za mobilne telefone a koja zgrće goleme pare, da ne pominjem enormna venčr kapital ulaganja, uspeva da bude u minusu. Neki tvrde da je to jer troše ludačke sume na agresivno lobiranje koje im dopušta da rade i stvari koje do juče nisu bile po zakonu. Fak mi, savremeni biznis je bizaran.



Uber operating at big losses, suggests document leak



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Financial documents, allegedly from car-share start-up Uber, suggest the firm is running at losses of several million dollars each quarter.
Images of the figures were published online by the website Gawker.
They show operating losses of more than $100m (£65m) in the second quarter of 2014, albeit coupled with steady growth in revenue.
In a statement, the company hit back at reports but did not deny them."Shock, horror, Uber makes a loss," it said.
"This is hardly news, and old news at that," it added. "It's a case of business 101: you raise money, you invest money, you grow (hopefully), you make a profit and that generates a return for investors."
The company was recently valued at $50bn and is the most-funded start-up in the world.
There has long been speculation over the health of Uber's profit to loss ratio, a subject on which the company has never officially detailed the sums.Positive noteOne positive note to emerge was the fact that the company increased its cash holdings from $263m in 2013 to over $1bn the following year.
Uber has faced a string of difficulties this summer, including the arrest of two managers in France over allegations that the service was "illegal" there, and the imposition of a $7.3m fine in California after the company failed to provide detailed information about itself to regulators.
The car-sharing app has also been banned in a number of cities and countries around the world, including Spain, Thailand, several Indian cities and faces partial bans in Germany and the Netherlands.


Meho Krljic

 :( :( :(


Fourth blogger hacked to death with machetes this year in Bangladesh



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The Bangladesh branch of Al-Qaeda is claiming responsibility for Friday's murder of a secular blogger in the capital city of Dhaka, the fourth blogger in Bangladesh slaughtered with machetes this year alone.


According to the monitoring group SITE, Al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS) branch Ansar al-Islam warned of more murders of bloggers to come in the Muslim-majority country: "In a communique issued in Bengali and English, and posted on its Facebook and Twitter accounts on August 7, 2015, Ansar al-Islam declared the attack to be 'vengeance' for the honor of the Prophet Muhammad, and vowed similar operations in the future against its enemies. The group threatened: 'If your 'Freedom of Speech' maintains no limits, then widen your chests for 'Freedom of our Machetes.'"
The death of 40-year-old Niloy Chakrabarti, who uses the name Niloy Neel in writing, sparked protests Friday in Dhaka, according to local press reports. As many as six men, armed with machetes, broke into his Dhaka apartment and hacked him to death.




The journalist had contributed to the humanist blogging platform Mukto-Mona. His posts often were critical of Islam. Mukto-Mona was established by another blogger—Avijit Roy, who was murdered in Bangladesh in February.
Rights groups condemned all of the bloggers' murders.
"This spate of savage killings must end here. There is little doubt that these especially brutal killings are designed to sow fear and to have a chilling effect on free speech. This is unacceptable," said David Griffiths, South Asia research director at Amnesty International. The Committee to Protect Journalists urged Bangladeshi authorities to take action. "How many more bloggers must be murdered before the government of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina acts decisively to stem the violence and impunity?" the group asked.


Overseas reports said his most recent writings had condemned the killing of three fellow bloggers, supported women and minority rights, and criticized the maltreatment of Hindus in the South Asian nation of 160 million people.
He posted to Facebook on May 15 that he was being followed after protesting the death of another blogger, according to AFP. He said the police declined to investigate the complaint and instead told him to leave Bangladesh. The Committee to protect journalists said Chakrabarti's name "appeared on a widely circulated list calling for the deaths of 854 bloggers perceived to be atheists."
The committee said that 17 journalists in Bangladesh have been murdered since 1992, when the committee began keeping records.
"Most of the cases have not been resolved," the committee said.

Meho Krljic

Škoti!

Scotland will ban the growing of GM crops



QuoteBan will enhance "clean, green status," says SNP; scientists, farmers not happy.

Scotland will ban the use of all genetically modified crops, according to the country's rural affairs minister. The country—which has been under majority rule of the Scottish National Party since 2011—wants to take advantage of new EU rules that allow devolved legislatures to restrict or ban the cultivation of GMOs. If successful, Scotland will face increased competition from farmers south of the border, where Conservative policy allows for cultivation of the controversial crops.
"Banning growing genetically modified crops will protect and further enhance our clean, green status," said rural affairs secretary Richard Lochhead in a statement. "There is no evidence of significant demand for GM products by Scottish consumers and I am concerned that allowing GM crops to be grown in Scotland would damage our clean and green brand, thereby gambling with the future of our £14 billion food and drink sector."


Lochhead's announcement was met with apprehension from the National Farmers Union Scotland (NFUS). "This is simply going to make us less competitive," NFUS vice president Andrew McCornick told the Scotsman. "There is going to be one side of the Border in England where they may adopt biotechnology, but just across the River Tweed farmers are not going to be allowed to. How are these farmers going to be capable of competing in the same market?"
Scotland's planned ban would affect a variety of genetically modified maize already approved for growth in the country, as well as six other GM crops that are awaiting authorisation. As Ars has previously reported, while there are some concerns around the possible environmental impact of GM crops, there's little scientific evidence to suggest that they're capable of causing any harm upon human consumption.
Huw Jones, professor of molecular genetics at the agricultural science group Rothamsted Research, described the planned ban as "a sad day for science and a sad day for Scotland," adding that GM crops approved by the EU were "safe for humans, animals and the environment." Conservative MSP ­Murdo Fraser also condemned the ban, saying, "All the "SNP's stance will do is drive research out of Scotland into other parts of the UK and Europe and send the message that this Government prefers superstition to science."


Lochhead's announcement was met with apprehension from the National Farmers Union Scotland (NFUS). "This is simply going to make us less competitive," NFUS vice president Andrew McCornick told the Scotsman. "There is going to be one side of the Border in England where they may adopt biotechnology, but just across the River Tweed farmers are not going to be allowed to. How are these farmers going to be capable of competing in the same market?"
Scotland's planned ban would affect a variety of genetically modified maize already approved for growth in the country, as well as six other GM crops that are awaiting authorisation. As Ars has previously reported, while there are some concerns around the possible environmental impact of GM crops, there's little scientific evidence to suggest that they're capable of causing any harm upon human consumption.
Huw Jones, professor of molecular genetics at the agricultural science group Rothamsted Research, described the planned ban as "a sad day for science and a sad day for Scotland," adding that GM crops approved by the EU were "safe for humans, animals and the environment." Conservative MSP ­Murdo Fraser also condemned the ban, saying, "All the "SNP's stance will do is drive research out of Scotland into other parts of the UK and Europe and send the message that this Government prefers superstition to science."

Meho Krljic

Hongkonžani!!!!!!!!!


Uber drivers arrested by undercover cops in Hong Kong



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Police in Hong Kong have today raided Uber's office in the Asian city, after several officers posed as Uber customers and arrested drivers on Tuesday morning in an attempt to put an end to illegal taxi services.
"Upon arriving at the destination, the officers paid with credit cards and then revealed their identities, arresting drivers aged between 28 to 65," read a police statement.


Five drivers who had offered their services across the taxi-hailing app were arrested on suspicion of illegally carrying passengers and driving without third-party insurance. The men are being held for further investigation.
Although the targeted taxi-app company was not named in the police statement, local media Cable Television reported that police had been seen taking away computers and paperwork from Uber's Hong Kong office.
In a statement Uber spokesman Harold Li said the company "ensures that all rides are covered by insurance, and all drivers on the platform undergo an extensive background check."
Uber stressed that it would stand by the arrested drivers "100 percent" and would welcome the chance to discuss updated regulations "that put the safety and interests of riders and drivers first."
Hong Kong law currently states that hire vehicles must hold a hire car permit from the government or risk facing a fine of up to HK$5,000 and imprisonment of up to three months on the first charge, and a fine of HK$10,000 and imprisonment of six months on the second.
Uber has been operating in the semi-autonomous Chinese city for around a year. The latest setback joins a string of legal hurdles for the billion-dollar taxi-hailing company across its international operations, including a suspension of service in France following a series of riots, and continued protests in London by black cab drivers.
In greater China police have also paid visits to Uber offices in the cities of Chengdu and Guangzhou as part of a wider investigation into the service.

Meho Krljic

The digital media industry needs to react to ad blockers ... or else



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Disrupting the media industry is easy. Not long ago, I moused over to AdBlockPlus.org, clicked on a green button that said "Install for Safari," and less than 10 seconds later, ads had vanished. All of them. Goodbye iPad ad that unfurled down my screen. Goodbye blinking mattress ads. Goodbye car ad following me from site to site. This immediately became Web surfing nirvana: Pages loaded faster, my browser stopped randomly crashing, my whole computer ran better. The Adblocker Plus plugin even told me how many ads I've dodged in the last couple of months: more than 35,000 and counting.
This is an exciting and chaotic time in digital news. Innovators like BuzzFeed and Vox are rising, old stalwarts like The New York Times and The Washington Post are finding massive new audiences online, and global online ad revenue continues to rise, reaching nearly $180 billion last year. But analysts say the rise of ad blocking threatens the entire industry—the free sites that rely exclusively on ads, as well as the paywalled outlets that rely on ads to compensate for the vast majority of internet users who refuse to pay for news.
A phenomenon that began several years ago in online gaming circles—you don't want to get between gamers and their zombies—has swept into the mainstream. A new report from Adobe and one of several startups helping publishers fight ad blocking shows that 198 million people globally are now blocking ads, up 41 percent from 2014. In the US, ad blocking grew 48 percent from last year, to 45 million users. A recent Reuters Institute Digital News survey put the numbers even higher, saying that almost half of all US internet users block ads.
Taken alone, my 35,000-plus blocked ads probably aren't doing much damage to the news industry; maybe a campaign reporter will be forced to stay in a Marriott Courtyard instead of the W. (Sorry.) But taken together, ad blockers are hitting publishers in their digital guts. Adobe says that $21.8 billion in global ad revenue will be blocked this year.



"For publishers, ad blockers are the elephant in the room," media analyst Frederic Filloux wrote a few months ago. "Everybody sees them, no one talks about it." I asked numerous publishers and ad platforms how much ad blocking they were seeing and what they were doing about it. Most didn't reply. A Google spokeswoman did tell me this: "We believe that ads help fund free services and content on the web. For our part, we're continuing to invest in ad experiences that are relevant and useful for users, ensuring that users have choice over their ad experiences online, and helping publishers continue to fund their content."
The problem is that surveys show many internet users, particularly younger ones, have already decided they hate online ads. As one woman said in the Reuters report, "Online ads are obtrusive, obnoxious, annoying." And few feel an obligation to help publishers out. Some 80 percent of internet users polled by Adobe said they weren't willing to pay even a small fee to make ads disappear. So: Readers hate online ads, most users are unwilling to subscribe online (only 11 percent do, according to the Reuters study), and few would pay to make ads go away. No wonder the publishers didn't get back to me.
Publishers have been banking on the growth of mobile, where the ad blocking plugins either don't work or are cumbersome to install. Back in March, a Wells Fargo analyst wrote in a report on ad blocking that "the mobile migration should thwart some of the growth" of ad blockers. But three months later, at its annual developer conference, Apple revealed that its new operating system scheduled for release this fall will allow ad blocking on Safari. Given Apple's mobile dominance, the implications are potentially terrifying. Wired's headline: "Apple's support of ad blocking may upend how the web works."
   

There are five or six ad blockers on the market, but the biggest player—with more than 60 million active users—is Adblock Plus, part of a German company called Eyeo. It doesn't take a technological wizard to figure out how its product, and other ad blockers, work. Without an ad blocker installed, when a user clicks on a website, the site quickly connects to ad servers which display ads in various spots on the page. Ad blockers put a wall between the website and server, stopping ads in their tracks. Eyeo has been sued in German courts by publishers who argued Adblock Plus users shouldn't be able to block ads on their sites. The publishers lost.
In many ways, Adblock Plus has become the internet's advertising sheriff. That's because its software, by default, allows some ads through its firewall—ads it deems "acceptable," meeting a series of strict criteria it came up with in conversation with internet users around the world. The criteria essentially eliminate most of the ads on the market today, rolling back ad technology to the 1990s: text only, no animations, no popovers, no placement in the flow of text. In the two months since I've installed the software, I don't recall seeing any ads that meet the criteria.
Websites must apply to get "whitelisted," and an Adblock Plus employee then works with the site to make sure that the selected ads comply with the criteria. Ben Williams, a spokesman for Eyeo, told me that 700 publishers and bloggers have been whitelisted. The whitelist is how the company makes money. Eyeo charges large for-profit publishers a cut of ad revenues to be on the list, a scheme some critics have called extortion. Williams declined to say who is paying or how much, but the Financial Times recently reported that Google, Microsoft, and Amazon were among those paying Eyeo for their acceptable ads to appear to Adblock Plus users.
Adblock Plus has released a browser for mobile Android devices that blocks ads, and it's planning to release a similar product for Apple devices. But Adblock Plus might not be the biggest threat for publishers on mobile. Shine, an Israeli company, isn't targeting users fed up with annoying ads. It's going after mobile operators like Verizon and AT&T, whose networks are stressed by data-heavy ads that constantly ping towers for location. Shine has developed technology that allows mobile operators to block ads before they even hit smartphones—in browsers and in standalone apps. Imagine this: A mobile operator lowers a user's bill if she agrees to block ads, freeing up network resources.
Roi Carthy, the company's chief marketing officer, told me the software is in pilot testing with mobile carriers, but he declined to say which ones. The idea would undoubtedly face regulatory scrutiny in the US if mobile operators attempt to use it. Net neutrality advocates have already expressed concern. But Carthy says the company is prepared to fight. "The desire to figure out how to bring ad blocking to mobile consumers is a worldwide phenomenon," Carthy told me. Ad blocking, he said, "is an inalienable right."

Sean Blanchfield certainly doesn't share Carthy's views. He worries that ad blocking will decimate the free Web.
A longtime online gaming engineer—he worked on Call of Duty and Guitar Hero—Blanchfield noticed something odd happening a few years ago: There was a 30 percent discrepancy between his games' pageviews and ad views. He investigated and found that 1 in 3 of the ads were being blocked, a mortifying revenue hit. Ad blocking was still largely unique to gaming then, but Blanchfield correctly sensed it would spread. "Users are inadvertently putting their favorite websites out of business," he told me.
Blanchfield started a company called PageFair, one of several startups trying to give publishers the upper hand again. PageFair has been helping publishers measure how many users are blocking ads and how much it's costing them, as well as displaying acceptable ads under Eyeo's requirements. But PageFair has bigger plans: It has developed new technology that allows publishers to display acceptable ads and to add basic banner ads with images, circumventing the blocking software.
The strategy lets PageFair play both sides of the debate. It understands the ad blocking community finds many online ads annoying, but it ultimately sides with publishers in their need to show ads, particularly ones that generate a lot of revenue. "Your house, your rules, your ads," Blanchfield said. Major US publishers will soon launch Pagefair's software, he said, but he declined to identify which ones.
There are other ideas for solutions.
Ben Barokas, a former senior executive at Google, recently launched Sourcepoint, bringing together a team of online ad technologists to develop a product that has both carrot and stick qualities. As the product rolls out in the coming months, Sourcepoint will offer software that lets publishers show ad blockers a message: "One of the consequences of using ad blocking software is that it significantly damages the value exchange between consumers and creators of digital content." The message then urges users to click a link to disable ad blocking on that site.
Publishers can also enable a more stick-like approach, telling ad blockers that in order to continue they must restore banner ads, view a video ad, identify and views ads that are useful for them, or just pay up.
"We wanted to provide publishers with technology that allows them to provide users with choice," Barokas told me.
Publishers must make money. The reader must not be overly annoyed.   
"Otherwise, little by little, content will go away," Barokas said. "We are not in a sustainable media ecosystem today."

Albedo 0

svašta, tužakaju se po sudovima za nešto što ionako ne proizvodi nikakve efekte na duži rok

Meho Krljic

NYT ima reportažu o radu u Amazonu koja prikazuje korporaciju kao kombinaciju džungle i robovlasničkog društva:


Inside Amazon: Wrestling Big
Ideas in a Bruising Workplace

Father Jape

Da, to je ritvitovao Vilijam Gibson, pa baš prosledih drugu koji za koji mesec ide da radi u Amazonu :lol:
Blijedi čovjek na tragu pervertita.
To je ta nezadrživa napaljenost mladosti.
Dušman u odsustvu Dušmana.

Anomander Rejk

Dobro, očekujem da se jave poštovaoci EU i evroatlantskih integracija, i da nam objasne gde se to smetnuše evropske vrednosti?
https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/19/slovakia-to-eu-well-take-migrants-if-theyre-christians/
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