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Cheers and fears as world population hits 7bnBy Jason Gutierrez | AFP – 16 mins ago
   

   
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  The world welcomed its symbolic "seven billionth" baby on Monday but celebrations were tempered by worries over the strain that humanity's population explosion is putting on a fragile planet.
The United Nations said that by its best estimates the seven billionth baby would be born on October 31, and countries around the world have been marking the demographic milestone in a variety of ways.
Russian authorities showered gifts on newborns, while Papua New Guinea handed out special "goody bags" for new mothers.
The Philippines was the first country to declare a seven billionth baby, a little girl named Danica May Camacho.
Weighing 2.5 kilos (five pounds, six ounces), Danica was delivered just before midnight Sunday under a blitz of media camera flashes at Manila's Jose Fabella Memorial Hospital.
"She looks so lovely," her mother, Camille Dalura, whispered as she cradled her baby girl. "I can't believe she is the world's seven billionth."
UN rights chief Navi Pillay said in a statement marking the seven billion milestone: "From the moment the child was born, he or she -- like every other child born today or any other day -- should be guaranteed freedom from fear and want, protection from discrimination and abuse, and equal access to security, justice and respect as a member of the human family."
The birth comes at a time of great hope, Pillay said.
"The global awakening of 2011, which began in a town in Tunisia and spread to other towns and cities around the world, promises to restore the vision of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of a life of freedom from fear and want for all, without discrimination."
The United Nations named a Bosnian child, Adnan Mevic, as the Earth's six billionth inhabitant on October 12, 1999, when then-secretary general Kofi Annan was pictured in a Sarajevo hospital with the child in his arms.
The Mevic family is now living in poverty -- which is one reason why no one baby was being singled out for the global spotlight this time. Instead a number of births were being marked throughout the day.
In Bangladesh, authorities named another baby girl the world's seven billionth child. Weighing 2.75 kilos and named Oishee, she arrived a minute after midnight at a hospital in the capital Dhaka.
"I'm so happy. I've become the father of a baby girl at a historic moment," her father Mohsin Hossain said.
In Cambodia the honor fell to a baby girl who has yet to be named. Weighing three kilos, she was born in the southern province of Preah Sihanouk, her parents' fifth child.
"I am very glad for her. She is the last child for us. I hope she will have good future. I had a dream that she would be the luckiest among my children," proud mother Pring Phal, 42, told AFP.
However Indian Health Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad said the birth of the seven billionth child was "not a matter of joy but a great worry."
"We shouldn't be celebrating," he said Sunday in an interview with The Times of India. "For us a matter of joy will be when the population stabilises."
India's population, the world's second biggest at 1.2 billion, is set to surpass China's by 2025, according to the US census bureau.
The world has added a billion babies -- or almost another China -- since Adnan Mevic was born. Having taken millennia to pass the one-billion mark, the world's population has now doubled in 50 years.
Mounting concern over humanity's environmental impact and fears that we may not be able to feed ourselves 100 years from now cast a cautionary tone over the buildup to Monday's milestone.
UN chief Ban Ki-moon told students at a New York school last week: "Seven billion people who need enough food. Enough energy. Good opportunities in life for jobs and education. Rights and freedoms. The freedom to speak. The freedom to raise their own children in peace and security.
"Everything you want for yourself -- seven billion times over."
With about two babies being born every second, the figure can only go up and up in the decades to come -- to more than 10 billion by 2100, according to UN estimates.
A new UN Population Fund (UNFPA) report highlights how the world will face growing problems finding jobs for the new army of young people, especially in poor countries.
It also sounds alarms over how climate change and population growth are adding to drought and famine crises; the management of megacities like Tokyo; and ageing populations such as Europe's.
Children's rights group Plan International meanwhile noted that many births go unregistered, notably in parts of Africa, where as many as two-thirds are not recorded.
In Liberia, only 16 percent of children are registered, it said.

mambo džambo bre... ovdje su desničari u pravu, nakon što je komunizam propao, ljevica pomoću ekologije pokušava da kontroliše ekonomiju, i izmišlja da maltene umiremo koliko smo ''upropastili'' životnu sredinu.

naše bitisanje na ovoj planeti je toliko minorno da je to žalosno, neki se čak hvale da su napravili naftnu bušotinu od 12 milja, što je u Zemlji duboko kao mitiser na faci

Šta pa fali kontroli? Zar ne bi želeo Zemlju na kojoj se klima i vreme kontrolišu? Jedan globalni klima uređaj? Meni je prilično vrućina leti...

i meni isto, pa meteorolozi govore da se broj eksplozija na Suncu svakih 10-15 godina poveća i tada je ljeto, dva, tri užasno vruće, Sunce isijava više nego obično i odatle povišena temperatura. Ali ne, pojave se debeli lažovi koji tvrde da je to efekat staklene bašte ili ne daj bože broja rođenih beba u svijetu, pa eto, ako se bude rodilo manje onda će biti hladnije... More, prvi taj sve sa govnima koje je proizveo za života i time zagadio životnu sredinu, da lijepo skoči s mosta i ostavi ekološkog mjesta za nekog drugog.

Dakle, ne postoji nikakav dokaz da je klima bezbjednosni razlog na nivou da o tome treba da brine DB.

Histerija je stara već 50 godina, tamo negdje sredinom šezdesetih Rimski klub je tvrdio da kada na Zemlji bude živjelo 7 milijardi ljudi da će se sve raspasti. Pa eto nije, i dalje smo svi živi.

Sad eto izmišljaju da kada nas bude 10 milijardi, e onda mas' u propas', ajmo malo cifru da podignemo i kenjamo istu priču. Ne da neću da razmišljam o tome, nego me realno zabole.

Super sva ta reciklaža, ekodizel i ta sranja, ali kada dođe izbor: ekologija ili teška industrija, petrohemija i elektrotehnika, da znaš da u Srbiji niko ne smije da pase travu. A Njemci, Amerikanci, Japanci, ako su toliko uvjereni u to što pričaju neka prvo pogase fabrike u sopstvenim državama.

moj heroj iz detinjstva David Bellamy ima interesantne stavove o globalnom zagrevanju

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bellamy

ja njemu ne mogu da ne verujem, kao što recimo ne mogu da ne verujem u nešto što priča Raša Popov.

Quote from: Bata Živojinović Karan on 01-11-2011, 00:48:07
Super sva ta reciklaža, ekodizel i ta sranja, ali kada dođe izbor: ekologija ili teška industrija, petrohemija i elektrotehnika, da znaš da u Srbiji niko ne smije da pase travu. A Njemci, Amerikanci, Japanci, ako su toliko uvjereni u to što pričaju neka prvo pogase fabrike u sopstvenim državama.

Tragedy of the commons u sadejstvu sa bystander efektom. Svi očekuju da neko drugi reši problem. Uzgred, problem sa klimom nije to što je sve toplije, nego to što je sve oscilatornije. Leta su toplija, ali zime su hladnije. Zemlja gubi kapacitet da ujednačuje temperaturu. Slabe su šanse da Zemlja povrati taj kapacitet kad prođe solarni maksimum. Ti sunčevi periodi traju prosečno dvanaestak godina, a Zemlja se zagreva još od tridesetih godina. Čuj, nije problem nama ovde na brdima, ali pola Bangladeša je na dva metra nadmorske visine. Kad njih otera voda oni će preći u Indiju, ali tamo već nema mesta. Postoji velika opasnost da to sve preraste u tihu humanitarnu katastrofu koja će agonalno trajati decenijama. E sad, ako i dalje tvrdiš da to nije naš problem jer nema veze s nama, onda zapravo i nemamo više o čemu da pričamo.

Iran bans footballers for 'immoral' goal celebration  Mohammed Nosrati also plays for Iran's national team  The Iranian football federation has given indefinite suspensions to two players for "immoral acts" during goal-scoring celebrations, state TV says.
Footage posted online shows Persepolis defender Mohammed Nosrati squeezing teammate Sheis Rezaei's bottom.
Another video seems to show Rezaei squeezing a teammate later in the 3-2 Persepolis victory over Damash Gilan.
The game was broadcast live to millions. Nosrati and Rezaei have said they did not intend to offend anyone.
The two "have been banned indefinitely from all football activities for committing immoral acts", AFP news agency quoted Ismail Hasanzadeh, the head of the Iranian football federation's disciplinary committee, as saying.
AFP said the two players have also been suspended by Persepolis and fined nearly $40,000 (£25,000) each.
The Islamic republic's football federation has been trying for years to curb what it considers immoral behaviour on the field and foul language among players and spectators.

mac, ti NEMAŠ dokaze da je neko ljeto u 20. ili 21. vijeku najtoplije ikada. NEMAŠ IH. Dakle, kad kažeš da se nešto zagrijava od tridesetih, pod tim misliš da podatke o temperaturi u zadnjih 2-x 000 godina nemaš. Samo pretpostavljaš da su bile manje. Pretpostavljaš da je 2011. bila toplija od 1011. Dokaze NEMAŠ.

Drugo, kad pričaš o klimatskim oscilacijama zaboravljaš:

1. Da je u Evropi postojalo ledeno doba.

2. Da je Milanković izveo postojanu teoriju u kojoj tvrdi da se Zemljini polovi (a samim tim i klima) pomjeraju.

I treće, ja ću opet da ponovim da su te priče o populacionoj bombi, najezdi skakavaca iz Bangladeša i topljenju leda na polovima spominjane još kod Rimskog kluba, koji je tvrdio da će Zemlja doživjeti kolaps kada bude imala 7 milijardi ljudi.

Ja koliko vidim svi smo živi i nema nikakvog kolapsa, bar ne prirodnog.

Sad ti meni tvrdiš da će se potapanjem Bangladeša desiti to i to, pa prodaješ mi istu priču kao i Rimski klub. Oni su šezdesetih tvrdili da će planetu zahvatiti haos do 2000. godine.

Za Rimski klub se zna da su otvoreno lagali, za tebe se zna da proričeš sudbinu ''agonalne katastrofe''.

Dakle, da još jednom ponovim. Ne postoji nijedan dokaz da je klima problem državne, međunarodne ili planetarne bezbjednosti.
Postoje samo čiste pretpostavke da je otapanje lednika uzrokovano industrijom, iako niko nema podatke o stanju lednika u posljednjih nekoliko hiljada godina, pa samim tim ne može da tvrdi da se oni nikada nisu otapali ili ponovo ledili, a već spomenusmo Milankovića, po njemu je Antarktik nekada bio plodna oranica, i biće opet.

Jebo te Milanković sa sve Antarktikom. Mrsomudiš tu a Papandreu im ga zavuče do očnog tiltovanja. Radiji sam znati dal je ovo početak kraja EU neg dal će se led otopiti. Led mora da se otopi a voda da se zamrzne, kad tad, u čemu je problem?

papandreu spekulira cds-ima na propast grcke. slicno kao nekad davno onaj crnogorac poglavica na rat sa turskom.

Quote from: Bata Živojinović Karan on 01-11-2011, 22:44:53Dokaze NEMAŠ.

Pa da, ja ne mogu da dokažem, ali ima ko može. Ako te to interesuje onda ćeš naći način da se informišeš sa više strana, pa da tek onda doneseš svoj sud. Prouči bar osnovni vikipedijin članak o globalnom zagrevanju, to nije mnogo. Recimo procenat ugljenika i metana SE ZNA za poslednjih 800000 godina, proučavanjem uzoraka leda. I nalaz je da je današnji procenat oba gasa najveći u tom periodu, to jest najveći je u poslednjih 800 hiljada godina. Malo li je?

aha, a jel to iz onog leda što se otapa?

dakle, s jedne strane pričamo o topljenju lednika, i samim tim nestajanju uzoraka, a sa druge strane, iz uzoraka do tada nepostojećeg otopljenog leda izvlačimo informacije o procentu ugljenika i metana. Genijalno, zar ne?

Dakle:

1. Led se ne topi uprkos procentu metana i ugljenika, i onda je čitava priča o štetnosti tih materija besmislena.

2. Led se topi pa procenat ne možeš ni da izračunaš, što znači da je neko teški varalica.


I za kraj:
Core contamination

Some contamination has been detected in ice cores. The levels of lead on the outside of ice cores is much higher than on the inside. In ice from the Vostok core (Antarctica), the outer portion of the cores have up to 3 and 2 orders of magnitude higher bacterial density and dissolved organic carbon than the inner portion of the cores, respectively, as a result of drilling and handling

dakle, površni dijelovi, u kojima se nalaze uzorci, kontaminirani su i samim bušenjem prljavim mašinama i korišćenjem raznih materijala za prikupljanje uzoraka

i da još jednom ponovim, ne, sve ovo je sasvim irelevantno za pitanje da li nam prijeti planetarni kolaps, što su najobičnije propagandne poruke

najvažnija ideja koja se tu provlači jeste zaustavljanje privrednog rasta na današnjem nivou, tako da Amerika zadrži ono što sada ima, a nerazvijene zemlje da ostanu nerazvijene. To je čak bio eksplicitan predlog američkih ekologa, da se prosto zamrzne postojeća situacija, da Amerika unedogled ostane najbogatija zemlja na svijetu a da u Africi eventualno ponešto poprave ali da ekonomija ne napreduje. Jer ako ulože u tešku industriju i počnu da ''zagađuju'' onda će svašta da im se desi, ma čitav Bangladeš zajebancije. Šio mi ga Džordž.

E upravo suprotno, samo da se razvija industrija u Aziji i Africi, i samo da se jebe Zapad tamo gdje Sunce ne sija.
Pa kad se procenat industrijalizacije bar izjednači e onda ćemo da pričamo o životnoj sredini.

Neću da se raspravljam, upravo si pokazao laičko "superiorno" rasuđivanje i tedenciozno filtriranje činjenica. Kuvaj se sam. Razmisli samo o logici da Amerika širi laži o globalnom zagrevanju, a istovremeno je jedina ozbiljna država koja nije ratifikovala protokol iz Kjota.

Бата на тренутке звучи као задрти амерички републканац!

From the desk of the Fuehrer

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At CIA headquarters in Langley, one of the newest artifacts in the agency's private museum is a message from a father to his 3-year-old son. The gold-embossed letterhead features a swastika and the name Adolf Hitler.
"Dear Dennis," the seven-sentence letter begins. "The man who might have written on this card once controlled Europe — three short years ago when you were born. Today he is dead, his memory despised, his country in ruins."
Dennis is Dennis Helms, now a 69-year-old intellectual-property lawyer in New Jersey. The letter writer was his father, Richard Helms, the CIA director during the Vietnam War and Watergate eras, who died in 2002. Right after Germany's surrender, Lt. Helms, an intelligence operative, sneaked into Hitler's chancellery in Berlin and pilfered the Fuehrer's stationery. He dated the letter "V-E day" for May 8, 1945.
The letter astounded the CIA museum's curatorial staff when it was acquired in May — and not only because Helms wrote with such paternal tenderness. It also conveyed a certain historical intuition about the evil that one man could do. The letter happened to arrive at Langley the day after Osama bin Laden was killed in May.
Click here to see more images from the CIA exhibit

Mda.

Quote from: mac on 02-11-2011, 00:43:44
Neću da se raspravljam, upravo si pokazao laičko "superiorno" rasuđivanje i tedenciozno filtriranje činjenica. Kuvaj se sam. Razmisli samo o logici da Amerika širi laži o globalnom zagrevanju, a istovremeno je jedina ozbiljna država koja nije ratifikovala protokol iz Kjota.

pa naravno, ja i rekoh da to čini opozicija, prije svega bivši socijalisti, jer je to način da se kontroliše tržište. Ako hoće da povećaju proizvodnju nečega dobiju prigovor da ne može jer zagađuje životnu sredinu. Tako se opet otvara pitanje komandnih planova iz komunizma.

To što Amerika nije ratifikovala Kjoto ide samo meni u prilog. Ona ionako proizvodi maltene 60% ukupnog otpada pa šta bih ja trebao da brinem da Srbija ne bude kap koja će da prelije čašu (ako će uopšte biti prelivanja). Imaju bolje i imaju mnogo više naučnika koji se time bave, pa im nije palo na pamet da smanje zagađenje.

Al Gor, Grinpis, šta je to nego američka propaganda. Ekološki pokreti su nastali u Americi, i rođena država ih ignoriše, pitam se zašto.

Tjah, ovo mi liči na "što bi' ja čistio svoje dvorište kad je kod komšije smetlište, ima ja od svog da napravim septičku jamu!" logiku.

Boga mi, ja sam čuo da najbolje povrće na Kalenićevoj pijaci đubre ljudskim đubrivom

Žižek odgovara En Eplbaum a u vezi sa kritikom Occupy Wall Street protesta.

Merkelova preti Grcima da će ih izbaciti na deset godina iz EU .

Quote from: Anomander Rejk on 04-11-2011, 16:13:03
Merkelova preti Grcima da će ih izbaciti na deset godina iz EU .

Meni je ovo previse komplikovano jos od Lisabonskog sporazuma i famoznih klauzula. Koliko li ce Grkljani tek sad da nagrabuse? Tj, ko i sta dobija sa ovom mogucom suspenzijom, i sta ona u stvari znaci? 
("Sve je ovo tako konfuzno..."  )

neka se uce tupasti evropljani sta su grci, srbi i slicni, te kako se sa takvima dogovara:

nadje se, dogovori, potpise, razidje i onda prvo sve dogovoreno zaboravi. tako jedno desetak puta za zagrijavanje.
a onda polako.

To Grci, rušite tu nemačku tvorevinu EU 

ako sruše EU moraće da se zadovolje sa tričavih 12 plata godišnje 

U Brazilu se ne zajebavaju

Dramatic police car chase ended up in horrible traffic accident!

Brazilian police ram smugglers' plane on runway

Sarkozi:

Sarkozy tells Obama Netanyahu is a "liar"

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PARIS (Reuters) - French President Nicolas Sarkozy branded Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "a liar" in a private conversation with U.S. President Barack Obama that was accidentally broadcast to journalists during last week's G20 summit in Cannes.
"I cannot bear Netanyahu, he's a liar," Sarkozy told Obama, unaware that the microphones in their meeting room had been switched on, enabling reporters in a separate location to listen in to a simultaneous translation.
"You're fed up with him, but I have to deal with him even more often than you," Obama replied, according to the French interpreter.
The technical gaffe is likely to cause great embarrassment to all three leaders as they look to work together to intensify international pressure on Iran over its nuclear ambitions.
The conversation was not initially reported by the small group of journalists who overheard it because it was considered private and off-the-record. But the comments have since emerged on French websites and can be confirmed by Reuters.
Obama's apparent failure to defend Netanyahu is likely to be leapt on by his Republican foes, who are looking to unseat him in next year's presidential election and have portrayed him as hostile to Israel, Washington's closest ally in the region.
Pushing Netanyahu risks alienating Israel's strong base of support among the U.S. public and in Congress.
Netanyahu's office declined immediate comment.
Obama and Netanyahu have had a rocky relationship as U.S. efforts to broker a Middle East peace deal have foundered, with the U.S. president openly criticizing Jewish settlement building in the occupied Palestinian territories.
It was unclear why exactly Sarkozy had criticized Netanyahu. However, European diplomats have largely blamed Israel for the breakdown in peace talks and have expressed anger over Netanyahu's approval of large-scale settlement building.
PALESTINIAN WORRIES
During their bilateral meeting on November 3, on the sidelines of the Cannes summit, Obama criticized Sarkozy's surprise decision to vote in favor of a Palestinian request for membership of the U.N. cultural heritage agency UNESCO.
"I didn't appreciate your way of presenting things over the Palestinian membership of UNESCO. It weakened us. You should have consulted us, but that is now behind us," Obama was quoted as saying.
The October 31 UNESCO vote marked a success for the Palestinians in their broader thrust for recognition as a sovereign state in the U.N. system -- a unilateral initiative fiercely opposed by Israel and the United States.
As a result of the vote, Washington was compelled to halt its funding for UNESCO under a 1990s law that prohibits Washington from giving money to any U.N. body that grants membership to groups that do not have full, legal statehood.
Obama told Sarkozy that he was worried about the impact if Washington had to pull funding from other U.N. bodies such as the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organisation and the IAEA nuclear watchdog if the Palestinians gained membership there.
"You have to pass the message along to the Palestinians that they must stop this immediately," Obama said.
The day the conversation took place, the Palestinians announced that they would not seek membership of any other U.N. agency.
Sarkozy confirmed that France would not take any unilateral decisions when the U.N. Security Council discusses a Palestinian membership request, a debate expected later this month.
"I am with you on that," Obama replied.
(Writing by Crispian Balmer)

Alaha mi...

Missouri woman found fused to recliner in home

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   KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — A suburban Kansas City woman was left sitting in a vinyl recliner for so long that her skin had fused to the chair and she had to be pried out to be taken to a hospital after suffering an apparent stroke, authorities said.
Carol F. Brown's adult son told a state official he had left his 74-year-old mother in the chair for five days without helping her get up to use the bathroom or bathe because he was honoring her wishes to die in her Independence home, according to court documents that described the woman as a "rotting corpse that was still breathing." Brown later died.
"It is an incredible story to me," Independence police spokesman Tom Gentry said Wednesday.
Police were contacted after Brown was taken to a hospital Oct. 27 and found to have a maggot infestation inside an open wound around her ankle, according to the court documents that said Brown's home was "filthy with a heavy smell of bodily fluids and feces."
Brown's son, James Owens, told an official with the Missouri Division of Senior and Disability Services that his mother had been in the chair since Oct. 23 and that he was honoring her wishes to be left to die, the documents said.
Owens, who the documents said had started the application process to gain state aid to be his mother's caretaker, said he did give the woman tomato and chicken noodle soup.
No working telephone listing for a James Owens could be found Wednesday and a number listed under Brown's name rang unanswered.
Police who searched Brown's home took prescription drug bottles and pills, a section of the recliner and a soiled towel, court records show.
Jackson County prosecutor's office spokesman Mike Mansur said no decision will be made about possible charges until the medical examiner rules on Brown's cause of death.
"I've heard it could take some time," Mansur said. "I don't yet know how quickly it will come."

      Takođe: visokotehnološki kriminal: Feds: Cyber Criminals Hijacked 4 Million Computers 

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An Eastern European pack of cyber thieves known as the Rove group hijacked at least four million computers in over 100 countries, including at least half a million computers in the U.S., to make off with $14 million in "illegitimate income" before they were caught, federal officials announced today.
The malware allegedly used in the "massive and sophisticated scheme" also managed to infect computers in U.S. government agencies including NASA and targeted the websites for major institutions like iTunes, Netflix and the IRS -- forcing users attempting to get to those sites to different websites entirely, according to a federal indictment unsealed in New York today.
The accused hackers, six Estonian nationals and a Russian national, rerouted the internet traffic illegally on the infected computers for the last four years in order to reap profits from internet advertisement deals, the indictment said. The FBI busted up the alleged international cyber ring after a two-year investigation called Operation Ghost Click.
"The global reach of these cyber thieves demonstrates that the criminal world is... flat," said Janice Fedarcyk, the FBI Assistant Director in charge of the New York field office. "The Internet is pervasive because it is such a useful tool, but it is a tool that can be exploited by those with bad intentions and a little know-how."


Though they operated out of their home countries, the alleged hackers used entities in the U.S. and all over the world -- including Estonia-based software company Rove Digital from which the group apparently gets its name -- to carry out the plot.
According to the indictment, the suspects entered into deals with various internet advertisers in which they would be paid for generating traffic to certain websites or advertisements. But instead of earning the money legitimately, the FBI said the defendants used malware to force infected computers to unwillingly visit the target sites or advertisements -- pumping up click results and, therefore, ill-gotten profits to the tune of $14 million.
The malware was also designed to prevent users from installing anti-virus software that may have been able to free the infected computers.


The six Estonian nationals have been arrested on cyber crime charges while the Russian national remains at large.
"Today, with the flip of a switch, the FBI and our partners dismantled the Rove criminal enterprise," Fedarcyk said. "Thanks to the collective effort across the U.S. and in Estonia, six leaders of the criminal enterprise have been arrested and numerous servers operated by the criminal organization have been disabled."

How the Fraud Worked, According to the FBI The indictment describes several examples of alleged cyber fraud including two principle strategies: traffic redirection and ad replacement.
In the first case, if a user searched for the websites of major institutions like iTunes, Netflix or the IRS, the search results would return normally. However, if the user tried to click on the link to the websites, the malware on the computer would force a redirect to a different website where the criminals would profit in their advertisement deal.
In the second, when an infected computer visited a major website -- like Amazon.com -- the malware would be able to simply replace regular advertisements on that page with advertisements of their own making.

3,5$ po kompjuteru.   

Pa kad čovek pogleda i nije strašno. Pogotovo što se radi o preusmeravanju klikova da bi se profitiralo od reklama. Sami korisnici nisu preterano oštećeni.

Kako bilo


http://www.grahamjones.co.uk/2009/blog/internet-marketing/more-evidence-that-online-advertising-is-a-waste-of-money.html


A što se tiče babe i kod nas ih nađu kad se usmrde. Ali, ima i slučajeva kad potpuno izvetre.

novo: nakon grcke italija u fokusu trzista. grcka podbacila zbog mizernosti, sad, je li italija dovoljna za vise od dva tjedna krize? za jedan pravi crash? da banke prebace isisane visokopostotne drzavne obveznice na poreznika a novac preusmjere u dionice telekomunikacija, opskrbljivaca i sl. po najnizim mogucim tecajevima (zbog krize)?

Treba pustiti Dinkića da im sredi banke.

pazi ovaj chart, veolia jedan od najstarijih/najvecih koncerna na svijetu. opskrba, znaci ono sto stvarno vrijedi: voda, recycling, transport. gigant nad gigantima, preko 300.000 zaposlenih.


chart 10 godina. jutros se dionica trgovala po 8,60 eur, nakon sto su javili zaradu od ca. 1,2 milijarde eura (1.200 miliona) u prvih 9 mjeseci ove godine sto je ca. 8% manje nego u istom razdoblju 2010.
imaju problema u kriznim podrucjima (egipat, maroko) gdje potrosaci jednostavno ne placaju vodu i sl.
bankarska mafija bi sad najradje istisnula stare dionicare i preuzela koncern po 50 centa. samo vrte jedne te iste dionice s time da nastupaju kao i prodavac i kupac do besvijesti u minus.

Britanija na ivici propasti:

Newspaper turns readers into newshounds

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    A newspaper has thrown open its office doors, let the readers stride in, and invited them to peer over reporters' shoulders -- digitally, at least.
The website of the Guardian daily is publishing its 'newslist' -- a schedule of stories its journalists are working on -- and asking readers to help shape the coverage by contacting its reporters on Twitter.
In a country known for its raucous, fiercely competitive press, where tabloids have sometimes paid journalists at rival papers for access to this list, the idea seemed risky.
"The immediate reaction from other journalists was to say it seemed like insanity," science editor James Randerson told AFP in the Guardian's cavernous newsroom.
"Competitors are going to see what you're doing. But we haven't had problems with competitors stealing stories from us, or breaking embargos -- we're careful to keep exclusives and embargoed stories off the list."
The computer screen behind him displays five grids showing the day's domestic, foreign, sport, business and science coverage.
A link to the writer's Twitter page accompanies every story, so readers can contact them with tip-offs or suggestions.
"The overwhelming reaction was very positive," says Randerson. "Most people quite enjoy the voyeurism of being able to see into the workings of a paper."
A key advantage is that editors get a better sense of what the audience wants. "There was a big health story one day and we hadn't done enough on it," he recalls.
"We really got a sense from Twitter that people were worried about the future of the NHS (National Health Service). So the next day, we responded with a much bigger investigation.
"You've got to take it with a pinch of salt, because Twitter is not representative of the world at large," he admits. "But it's useful to have some feedback."
The paper's national editor Dan Roberts said that in the wake of the phone hacking scandal -- which forced the Rupert Murdoch-owned News of the World to close down -- people have a greater interest in seeing how news is made.
"There's a cynicism about journalism at the moment," he says. "People no longer trust the model that goes: 'We'll work out in secret what we're going to tell you, and you don't need to know whether we hacked someone's phone or lied to get it, or whether we made it up'. To gain credibility, in a more transparent age, you need to show your workings."
The Guardian admits the experiment has so far only attracted a small minority of the website's 2.9 million daily readers.
Randerson estimates that reporters receive roughly a hundred messages a day about the newslist, of which just a handful are useful.
But Charlie Beckett, director of the Polis media think-tank, said this was to be expected -- and did not mean the open newslist was a failure.
"The people getting involved are the kind of people who used to write letters to the editor," he told AFP.
"They're news nerds. Not many people are going to spend all day coming up with ideas for the Guardian. Probably only one percent of readers will ever contribute, and only one percent of their ideas will be good -- but that's better than nothing."
The experiment is not the first of its kind; for two years Norran, a Swedish regional newspaper, has been running a chat room where readers can suggest story ideas.
The paper says this has driven traffic to the site, bringing back advertisers who fled during the recession.
In Canada the Winnipeg Free Press has gone a step further, opening a cafe where readers can discuss the news with journalists face-to-face.
For the Guardian's parent company Guardian Media Group, interactive experiments like the open newslist are part of a 'digital-first' strategy that it hopes can reverse last year's £33 million ($52.9 million, 38.4 million euros) operating losses.
The Guardian's 190-year-old print edition now has a circulation of just 233,000 copies. GMG's chief executive Andrew Miller warns the group could run out of cash in three years, so online success is crucial.
Executives want the website, which in September launched a separate edition for US readers, to boost the group's digital revenues from £47 million this year to £91 million by 2014/16.
Guardian editor-in-chief Alan Rusbridger hopes that more participatory journalism will attract readers and therefore advertisers and Roberts believes the open newslist will be adopted by other newsrooms.
"People want professional journalism, but they also want to discuss it," he says. "There's a large number of people now who really engage in the news. It's a small sub-set of the readership, but at a global level, that's millions of people who want to be part of the news process."

Bre, Meho, smaraš me sa ovim umecima k'o Plut radioničke priče. Mogao bih da ti napišem studiju na temu šta pišu medijima oni što ne pišu. Evo, na primer:


Raskukao se Hrvoje Prčić, svojevremeno, da mu oni koji pišu redakciji hvale koncept, a da tiraž Siriusa i dalje pada. Ja mu odgovorim: "A, šta pišu oni koji ne pišu redakciji?"


Praksa pulova i fokus grupa nije zaobišla nijednu oblast javne komunikacije, a istraživanja te prakse su uvek pokazala da se vremenom takve grupe osete povlašćenim i što je još gore - merodavnim. To je važilo za rejting ankete, za piplmetre, pa za filmske i TV fokus grupe, a ni  anketiranje čitalaca nije bolje. Neke stare prakse bar ukazuju ko je kriv ako ne ide i ko je zaslužan ako ide. Ovako, odgovorni mogu da skinu odgovornost sa sebe i da teraju dalje.


Jel' jasnije ovako?

Izvinjavam se na smaranju, samo sam istakao primer interaktivnosti gde joj, mislimo mi stariji, mesto nije.

Interaktivnost je samo još jedan način da se raji mazne lova. American Idol je u SAD, u jednoj sezoni, imao 500.000.000 SMS glasanja (svaki 0,99$), pa vi vidite kako se interaktivno ruka stalno drži u tuđem džepu. Da se ugreje.

Neću da linkujem, ali ću da zaključim: Dobro je što su Papandreu i Berluskoni zbrisali, možda bi ih na kraju bombardovali i postmortem masakrirali.

prokleta iscasena trula katolicka crkva, najvece zlo koje je ikad zadesilo zapadni svijet i narocito hrvate.
Beč: Vatikan Srbima poklonio crkvu

Čekaj, ta vest je stara, ajd da ne lupim, ali oko godinu dana.

utoliko gore. godina dana, a jos nitko to nije digao u zrak.

Quote from: kralj Kuga on 14-11-2011, 19:55:42
utoliko gore. godina dana, a jos nitko to nije digao u zrak.

Pa šta čekaš?

pih. briga me za austrijance. imamo posla preko glave i u hrvatskoj. neka se germani tamo 'ebu sa srbima do sudnjeg dana sto se mene tice.

Tjah. Nikad pravi Hrvat od tebe.

ah. a sta mislis gdje bi srbija danas bila da nije napadala jace i ljepse od sebe, hrvate, ratni narod, i svojatala njihovu zemlju?
i to zemlju koja je prvo primila srbske izbjeglice, te jos i srbiju oslobodila od turaka.

Zosko, ponekad se pitam kako možeš da živiš sa toliko crnila u sebi.

Pa ne živi. Sedne jednom dnevno pred komp, istroluje ZS, i onda ostatak dana može lepo bivati građaninom jedne uređene države.