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mac

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 30-11-2015, 20:24:18
pravi komunista bi ionako prvo formirao streljački vod, pa onda privređivao i samoupravljao 8-)

Pravi komunista je Kropotkin, a Bakunjin je upravo upozoravao na one koje ti zoveš pravim komunistima.

Albedo 0

možda u nekom idealističkom smislu, no eno kako je kropotkinovac Đinđić prošo bez streljačkog voda. Ili sa streljačkim vodom, zavisi kako gledaš na to.

Partizani su bili nešto pametniji.


Quote from: scallop on 30-11-2015, 21:53:51
Ostavi se mojih unuka.

ostavi se snishodljivih praznobukvica

džin tonik

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 30-11-2015, 17:42:17
Quote from: zosko on 30-11-2015, 16:09:32
nikad pravi komunista od tebe meho.
Nažalost, moj razvoj iz pionira u omladinca koji je trebalo da se kruniše ful skejl komunističkim delijom od formata prekinut je kad su ovi tvoji rasturili Jugoslaviju  :lol: :lol: :lol:

i jopet kriv ja/moji. nitko me ne voli.

scallop

Dosta mi je tvojih neargumentovanih izliva. Dokaži taj streljački vod kao osnovu komunističkog ponašanja pa da nastavimo.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Albedo 0

ko mi kaže za neargumentovane izlive, jedno zadnje 3 poruke koje si mi uputio sadržale su rečenicu ''pojma nemaš'' i nijedan dokaz te tvrdnje

a ko ne zna koga su partizani strijeljali neka istraži sam

uostalom, ja i ne pričam o partizanima već o mom viđenju komunizma, što je mac i shvatio

mada, kad se već pokreće takva tema onih 17 soma zoskovih u Sloveniji su svakako strijeljani, a i četnika je bilo, mojne se zezamo oko notornih činjenica

scallop

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

Quote from: zosko on 30-11-2015, 22:55:39
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 30-11-2015, 17:42:17
Quote from: zosko on 30-11-2015, 16:09:32
nikad pravi komunista od tebe meho.
Nažalost, moj razvoj iz pionira u omladinca koji je trebalo da se kruniše ful skejl komunističkim delijom od formata prekinut je kad su ovi tvoji rasturili Jugoslaviju  :lol: :lol: :lol:

i jopet kriv ja/moji. nitko me ne voli.

Ma, daleko bilo da se zbog toga ne volimo. Prihvatam ja da narod želi samoopredeljenje i da je spreman zbog toga i u rat da uđe. Samo kažem, sa time je srušen i komunizam pa sam ja osto nerazvijen.


džin tonik

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 30-11-2015, 23:08:21
daleko bilo da se zbog toga ne volimo. Prihvatam ja da narod želi samoopredeljenje i da je spreman zbog toga i u rat da uđe. Samo kažem, sa time je srušen i komunizam pa sam ja osto nerazvijen.

odu i moji komplimenti u pogresnom pravcu. komunizam po statistici unazadi, preci razvoj.
bah, kupit cu i ja jednom taj prirucnik muvanja. :lol:

scallop

Bilo šta. Recimo, da je Blajburg komunistička ujdurma. Ali, crno na belo, sa priznanjem.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Albedo 0

Priznajem da sam četrespete strijeljao ustaše u Blajburgu!

scallop

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.


scallop

Falsifikat. Znam čoveka. Bio mi statista na filmu.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Agota

This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...

Albedo 0

radije bih snimio još tri nastavka Hajde da se volimo nego ponovo statirao kod scallopa!

Agota

simpatican je to omnibus. plus, muziku potpisuje veliki bojan adamic. fascinantno je  videti kako je izgledao beograd pedesetih, mislim da je to  ujedno i  najveća vrednost  filma.
This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...

дејан

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-06-2015, 10:05:44
Pominjali smo već kako predstavnici EU i SAD pregovaraju o transatlantskom partnerstvu koje treba da olakša trgovinu između dva entiteta ali koje će, vele, za evropske partnere značiti da se odriču dela državnog suvereniteta na račun američkih korporacija koje će imati pravo da izvode države na sudove zbog zakona koji im ometaju trgovinske planove. Sve je još u domenu spekulacija pošto se pregovori vode iza zatvorenih vrata i evropska javnost o njima saznaje kojekakvim kanalima.

E, da bismo videli da to sve nije bez vraga, evo detalja o transpacifičkom partnerstvu koje je isto bilo dizajnirano iza zatvorenih vrata ali sada saznajemo da su većinu stavki napisali korporacijski lobisti:
Revealed Emails Show How Industry Lobbyists Basically Wrote The TPP
Back in 2013, we wrote about a FOIA lawsuit that was filed by William New at IP Watch. After trying to find out more information on the TPP by filing Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests, and being told that they were classified as "national security information" (no, seriously), New teamed up with Yale's Media Freedom and Information Access Clinic to sue. As part of that lawsuit, the USTR has now released a bunch of internal emails concerning TPP negotiations, and IP Watch has a full writeup showing how industry lobbyists influenced the TPP agreement, to the point that one is even openly celebrating that the USTR version copied his own text word for word. > What is striking in the emails is not that government negotiators seek expertise and advice from leading industry figures. But the emails reveal a close-knit relationship between negotiators and the industry advisors that is likely unmatched by any other stakeholders. The article highlights numerous examples of what appear to be very chummy relationships between the USTR and the "cleared advisors" from places like the RIAA, the MPAA and the ESA. They regularly share text and have very informal discussions, scheduling phone calls and get togethers to further discuss. This really isn't that surprising, given that the USTR is somewhat infamous for its revolving door with lobbyists who work on these issues. In fact, one of the main USTR officials in the emails that IP Watch got is Stan McCoy, who was the long term lead negotiator on "intellectual property" issues. But he's no longer at the USTR -- he now works for the MPAA.
You can read through the emails, embedded below, which show a very, very chummy relationship, which is quite different from how the USTR seems to act with people who are actually more concerned about what's in the TPP (and I can use personal experience on that...). Of course, you'll notice that the USTR still went heavy on the black ink budget, so most of the useful stuff is redacted. Often entire emails other than the salutation and signature line are redacted.
Perhaps the most incredible, is the email from Jim DeLisi, from Fanwood Chemical, to Barbara Weisel, a USTR official, where DeLisi raves that he's just looked over the latest text, and is gleeful to see that the the rules that have been agreed up on are "our rules" (i.e., the lobbyists'), even to the point that he (somewhat confusingly) insists "someone owes USTR a royalty payment." While it appears he's got the whole royalty system backwards (you'd think an "IP advisor" would know better...) the point is pretty clear: the lobbyists wrote the rules, and the USTR just put them into the agreement. Weisel's response? "Well there's a bit of good news..."
Sledite link u naslovu da biste videli same mejlove.

судећи по свему развој догађаја не иде на руку државама (ал другачије нисмо ни очекивали)

How EU nations are being sued for billions by foreign companies in secret tribunals'



...barcode never lies
FLA

scallop

Država je izlišna ako ne isunjava želje neoliberalnog kapitala, a to se dešava kadgod se država priseti da ima obaveze i prema stanovništvu.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Meho Krljic

Jasno je da biznis treba da ima mehanizam kojim bi štitio svoje investicije, tako da je ideja o tome da imaš sud koji bi omogućio da tužiš državu koja je promenom zakonodavstva odjednom sporazum koji ste imali učinila nevažećim (ili ekonomski neprihvatljivim) logična. Ali treba videti ove horor priče o tome da se utuženjem dobijaju kompenzacije koje nemaju veze sa stvarnom štetom i oslanjaju se na fiktivne, šatro projektovane profite koji su sada izgubljeni i moraju se nadoknaditi. Razum bi tu trebalo da prevlada, ali ima li ga dovoljno??? Vrlo dobar tekst.

scallop

Ne znam šta je tebi jasno, ali tom kapitalu je uvek kriva država, osim ako zasere pa se baci državi oko vrata uz jecaje: "Mamice, pomozi i oprosti. Nećemo nikada više." A meni je bilo jasno još kad sam počeo da pišem, pa u mom SF-u države ne postoje, nego TriK konzorcijum univerzalnog kapitala.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

varvarin

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2015&mm=12&dd=08&nav_category=78&nav_id=1072018


"Da li će EU postojati za 10 godina?  Niko ne zna"
Predsednik Evropskog parlamenta Martin Šulc izjavio je da Evropskoj uniji preti raspad i da se svi oni koji podržavaju Uniju moraju boriti za njen opstanak...

Dybuk

Zanimljivo

Austriju Brinu Islamska Obdaništa

QuoteMinistar spoljnih poslova i integraciju Sebastijan Kurc izrazio je uverenje da je neophodno pooštriti kontrolu islamskih obdaništa u Beču.
Kurc je takav zaključak doneo na osnovu studije, koju je izradio profesor Ednan Aslan sa Instituta za islamske studije bečkog Univerziteta.

Aslan, u svojoj analizi, prikazuje sliku paralelnog sveta, koji roditelji žele, a udruženja, koja vode obdaništa, forsiraju.

"Mnogi roditelji žele da za njihovu decu bude stvoreno stopostotno islamsko okruženje", naveo je Aslan dodajući da iza toga stoji želja "kako zaštiti decu od većinskog društva, od nemorala".

Među islamskim obdaništima, prema njegovim rečima, usledilo je utrkivanje ko će ponuditi što konzervativnije i religioznije okruženje.

Aslan naglašava da postoji mnogo muslimana koji svoju decu svesno ne žele da daju u takva obdaništa.

Međutim ko želi može svoje dete, usred Beča, odgajati u paralelnom svetu, i to podržano novcem poreskih obveznika Austrije, pošto pokrajina Beč plaća brigu o deci u privatnim obdaništima.

Analiza Aslana pokazuje da se u tim obdaništima o deci brinu isključivo muslimanke, mnoge od njih su prošle samo jedan dvonedeljni kurs.

Plan rada, kako je konstatovao ne razlikuje se mnogo od onoga kuranskih škola.

Što se jezika tiče, kako je naveo Aslan, iako je austrijska država donela odluku o ciljanom podsticanju učenja nemačkog, u islamskim obdaništima nedostaje za to neophodno osoblje, jer mnogi pedagozi nemaju dovoljno znanja nemačkog, a ujedno postoje i neka obdaništa u kojima se uopšte i ne govori nemački.

"U tim obdaništima se primenjuju metode vaspitanja koje nisu u saglasnosti sa evropskim, jer odbijaju vrednosti u Austriji, način života, kao i ulogu žene koja postoji", rezimirao je Aslan.

Povodom ovog izveštaja Kurc je istakao da nije protiv privatnih, verskih obdaništa, bez obzira na veru, ali je problematično što postoji želja da se deca zaštite od većinskog društva.
"Cilj ograđivanja je pogrešan pristup", poručio je on.

S tim u vezi je najavio strožije kontrole, a ako bude potrebno i usvajanje strožijeg zakona, u čijem fokusu bi bilo podsticanje nemačkog jezika.



varvarin

Da li on preteruje?

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2015&mm=12&dd=11&nav_category=78&nav_id=1073535

"Ako pobedi desnica, u FR moguć građanski rat"

Francuski premijer Manuel Vals rekao je da ako Nacionalni front krajnje desnice osvoji vlast na regionalnim izborima,zemlja može skliznuti ka građanskom ratu...


scallop

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.


scallop

Potomci Simonea Simoninija su svuda oko nas.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. - Mark Twain.

Ghoul

SVE JE LAKO KAD SI MEGA-BOGAT: SAPLETEŠ SE I UPADNEŠ U P*ČKU!

Saudi millionaire who said he 'accidentally tripped and penetrated' teenage girl cleared of rape

He said it was possible he had semen on his hands from having sex with a 24-year-old woman earlier

A millionaire property developer has been cleared of raping a teenager after claiming he accidently tripped and fell on her.


Ehsan Abdulaziz, 46, was accused of forcing himself on an 18 year-old-girl who had slept on his sofa in his Maida Vale flat after a night out drinking.

The businessman had already had sex with the teenager's 24-year-old friend, whom he already knew, in the bedroom and said his penis might have been poking out of his underwear when he fell on the teen.

The young woman said she had woken up in the early hours of the morning, with Mr Abdulaziz on top of her, forcing himself inside her.

He claimed he had gone to see if the young woman wanted a t-shirt to sleep in, or a taxi home. But he said she pulled him on top of her and placed his hand between her legs.

His semen and DNA was found inside the young woman, but he said it was possible he had semen on his hands from having sex with the 24-year-old earlier.

In the evidence, Mr Abdulaziz showed how the girl had put her hand behind his head to pull him towards her, which is how he says he fell.

He said: "I'm fragile, I fell down but nothing ever happened, between me and this girl nothing ever happened."

Saudi Arabia 'may jail woman who posted video of husband cheating with housemaid'
The women met the millionaire in London's West End club, Cirque le Soir nightclub, where he invited them to his private table.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/millionaire-ehsan-abdulaziz-who-said-he-accidentally-tripped-and-penetrated-teen-is-cleared-of-rape-a6774946.html
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

дејан

и тако је ова сцена из ласт бој скаута добила своју, додуше болесну, верзију у реалности...
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...barcode never lies
FLA

Dybuk

Ne znam ni sto je kog djavola smisljao izgovor, kao da mu treba da bi bio oslobodjen "optuzbe"! :roll:

Ghoul

pazi, uopšte nije isključeno da je ta curica 'pročitana' kao kopačica zlatnih žila koja je iskoristila priliku da pokuša da ovog ojadi za grdne pare ucenom, iako je sex - ako ga je bilo (pitam se šta kažu doktori koji su je pregledali?) - možda bio obostrano prihvaćen...

ipak, scenario koji nudi optuženik je zaista kao iz vica...
"ja tako šetao... možda mi je đoka u erekciji štrčao iz gaća... možda sam na rukama imao svoje seme od ranijeg sexa... i tako se ja sapletem, i štaću-kuću - pravo teen-mečki u rupu!"
https://ljudska_splacina.com/

Meho Krljic

Quote from: Ghoul on 16-12-2015, 14:07:38
(pitam se šta kažu doktori koji su je pregledali?)

Nisam doktor ali čisto sumnjam da u Saudijskoj Arabiji protokol po kome se rešava prijava seksualnog nasilja podrazumeva forenzičku analizu. Ne zaboravimo da je to zemlja u kojoj se i dalje veštičarenje po zakonu kažnjava smrću.

Mislim i države koje se MNOGO manje oslanjaju na šerijat u svom zakonodavstvu često imaju prakse kojima se žena obeshrabruje da prijavi slučaj seksualnog/ rodnog nasilja. Na primer, u prošli četvrtak sam slušao prezentaciju o Kirgistanu gde je opisan proces: žena koja želi da prijavi silovanje prvo odlazi u policijsku stanicu, gde joj policajac najčešće kaže da možda ipak razmisli, da ne treba čoveku da upropasti reputaciju a i postupak je dug i zamoran. Ako se ipak odluči, policajac je prvo šalje kod forenzičara, koji može ali ne mora da konstatuje išta, već može da je dalje pošalje kod psihologa (najpre da se vidi da li ona laže) pa tek posle toga može da ode kod ginekologa da bi dobila pregled i tretman, što podrazumeva da samostalno obilazi nekoliko različitih institucija. Ako se svi oni slože da ima osnova da podnese krivičnu prijavu, ona ima godina dana da to sama učini jer ne postoji provizija da to iko od njih uradi po službenoj dužnosti. A Kirgistan nije šerijatska država, jelte...

дејан

ово се није десило у СА већ у енглеској


QuoteHe was cleared of one count of rape at Southwark Crown Court on Tuesday.
...barcode never lies
FLA

Dybuk

Ok, hvala dejane.

Red je da ispravim svoj post i sad izgleda ovako

QuoteNe znam ni sto je kog djavola smisljao izgovor, kao da mu treba da bi bio oslobodjen optuzbe!

дејан

додатак...ето како једна фино убачена реченица, на стратешком месту и потпуно невезана за горњу вест скрене пажњу у 'исправном смеру'

Quote[Saudi Arabia 'may jail woman who posted video of husband cheating with housemaid'


едит...дибук, мој коментар се односио на почетак мехове реченице не на твој коментар...а кад смо код коментара...па увек је потребан неки изговор, мора судија дима покриће за своју пресуду  :)
...barcode never lies
FLA

Dybuk

Jeste to, i znam da si mislio na Meha, ali sam morala da napravim uvod za ispravku posta, naime, oni navodnici su sad visak :)

Meho Krljic

Quote from: дејан on 16-12-2015, 14:19:52
ово се није десило у СА већ у енглеској


QuoteHe was cleared of one count of rape at Southwark Crown Court on Tuesday.

A izvinjavam se, ta rečenica nije bila u tekstu koji si kopirao a ja sam bio lenj da kliknem na link. Doduše, mogao sam da pretpostavim iz toga gde su se sreli da se sve dešavalo u UK. U tom slučaju... superbizarno i supersramotno.

džin tonik

sta je supersramotno u tome da coeka krase savrseni refleksi? saudi ko macka, pada najbezbolnije, doceka se "na noge".



džin tonik

nestalo do 30% izbjeglica smjestenih po istocnoj njemackoj. :roll:
inace solidni grafikoni u nastavku clanka.

Sind Tausende Flüchtlinge "einfach verschwunden"?

Meho Krljic

 Correction: Serbia-Paris-Guns story

Quote
BELGRADE, Serbia (AP) — In a Dec. 10 story, The Associated Press incorrectly reported that a gun exported by a Serbian manufacturer to a Florida-based company was involved in the Nov. 13 Paris attacks. In fact, the gun in question was not involved in the attacks and has been in Mexican government custody since March of this year, according to U.S. authorities.
The AP report was based on information from the Serbian gun manufacturer Zastava, which cited to AP an advisory from the Serbian Interior Ministry. The advisory quoted Interpol authorities as saying a gun manufactured by Zastava with a particular serial number was used in Paris. The AP story should have made clear that the connection between a Zastava gun with that serial number and the Paris attacks was based only on this advisory.
Zastava said it exported a gun with that serial number to Delray Beach, Florida-based Century Arms in 2013. According to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the gun was received by Century and eventually sent to a federal firearms licensee in the United States and purchased by an individual in February 2014. In March of this year it was recovered at a crime scene in Mexico and is still in the custody of Mexican officials, ATF said.
Serbian authorities declined to provide any additional details this week on the advisory cited by Zastava or what it was based on. Interpol said it could not provide additional material because it only acts as a clearinghouse for information among police agencies. Interpol said it would defer to the information from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives on the case.

Dybuk

Marin le Pen bi mogla u zatvor na pet godina zbog tvitovanja fotografija ubistava Islamske države

Vest sama po sebi mozda ne preterano interesantna, ali meni je ovo privuklo paznju, jer smo i ovde imali neke diskusije na tu temu:

QuotePariski advokat Tjeri Vala, specijalista u odbrani ljudi optuženih za promociju terorizma, kaže za VICE News da Le Pen može biti gonjena prema članu 222-33-3 francuskog Krivičnog zakona. Prema ovom članu, nezakonito je svesno deliti snimljene fotografije na kojima je osoba koja je pretrpela nasilje.
Podrzavam.

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džin tonik

hm, samo sto pomislim na kupovinu onog nekog stapa, vec problemi... pravda za selfije!

lilit

That's how it is with people. Nobody cares how it works as long as it works.

Barbarin

Firefighters called to historic Boleskine House on Loch Ness

Boleskine House was owned by infamous occultist Aleister Crowley and later for a time by Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-35171061
Jeremy Clarkson:
"After an overnight flight back to London, I find myself wondering once again if babies should travel with the baggage"