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Meltdown in US finance system pummels stock market
By PATRICK RIZZO and JOE BEL BRUNO, AP Business Writers
NEW YORK - The upheaval in the American financial system sent shock waves through the stock market Monday, producing the worst day on Wall Street in seven years as investors digested the failure of one of its most venerable banks and wondered which domino would be next to fall.
The Dow Jones industrial average lost more than 500 points, more than 4 percent, its steepest point drop since the day the stock market reopened after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. About $700 billion evaporated from retirement plans, government pension funds and other investment portfolios.
The carnage capped a tumultuous 24 hours that redrew U.S. finance. Lehman Brothers, an investment bank that predates the Civil War and weathered the Great Depression, filed the largest bankruptcy in American history. A second storied bank, Merrill Lynch, fled into the arms of Bank of America.
It was by far the most stomach-churning single day since a financial crisis began to bubble up from billions of dollars in rotten mortgage loans that have crippled the balance sheets of one bank after another and landed mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac under the control of the federal government.
"We are in the middle of a deep, dark recession, and it won't end soon. Here it is, and it is pretty nasty," said Barry Ritholtz, who writes the popular financial blog The Big Picture and is CEO of research firm FusionIQ.
And the fallout was far from over. American International Group, the world's largest insurer, was fighting for its very survival: New York Gov. David Paterson moved to allow the company to tap one of its subsidiaries for an emergency loan to stay above water.
"AIG still remains financially sound," Paterson said, even as the company's stock tumbled almost 60 percent. Almost $20 billion was wiped off AIG's balance sheet on Monday.
In Washington, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, who refused to toss a financial lifeline to Lehman, was unapologetic as the Bush administration signaled strongly that Wall Street shouldn't expect more rescues from Washington.
The American people should remain confident in the "soundness and resilience in the American financial system," Paulson told reporters at the White House.
Six months ago, Paulson moved to prevent the collapse of Bear Stearns, brokering a deal for JP Morgan Chase & Co. to buy the firm at a fire-sale price with Federal Reserve backing. Earlier this month, he stepped in to help the government seize Fannie and Freddie in hopes of reversing the housing and credit crises.
But Monday, Paulson said he "never once" considered it appropriate to put taxpayer money at risk to resolve the problems at Lehman Brothers, which was saddled with $60 billion worth of soured real estate holdings.
The result was one of the most momentous days in Wall Street history since legendary banker J. Pierpont Morgan helped broker the rescue of financial markets during the Panic of 1907.
The Dow industrials dropped 504.48 points to close at 10,917.51, the first time since July they have finished under 11,000. It was the sixth-largest point drop ever and the worst since Sept. 17, 2001, when the average fell 684.81 points on the first day of trading after the terror attacks.
In percentage terms, the fall for the Dow on Monday was its worst since the summer of 2002. The index has shed nearly a quarter of its value since its record high last October.
Broader stock indicators also fell. The Standard & Poor's 500 index lost more than 4 1/2 percent, and the Nasdaq composite index lost more than 3 1/2 percent.
Financial stocks fell as investors worried about the strength of banks' balance sheets. Washington Mutual Inc. 27 percent to $2 a share, while Wachovia Corp. fell 25 percent to $10.71.
While Lehman Brothers was filing for Chapter 11 and AIG was scurrying to find financing to stay afloat, Merrill Lynch was avoiding a similar fate with a $50 billion transaction to become part of Bank of America Corp.
The deal would create a financial giant rivaling Citigroup Inc., the biggest U.S. bank in terms of assets. Bank of America has the most deposits of any U.S. bank, while Merrill Lynch is the world's largest and most widely recognized brokerage.
"It was an opportunity of a lifetime," said Ken Lewis, Bank of America's chairman and CEO.
Lewis made the announcement at a news conference where he was flanked by a smiling John Thain, Merrill's chief executive. The two put the deal together in 48 hours, while they were taking part in marathon discussions at the New York Federal Reserve over the weekend to save Lehman Brothers. Merrill stock rose a penny Monday.
One huge concern is that the Lehman bankruptcy will probably trigger even tighter credit — making it more difficult for everyone from large companies to small businesses to American homebuyers to borrow money.
It was a dark day for Lehman workers, too. Many of them brought gym bags, shopping totes and Lehman travel bags to cart home personal files and pictures from their desks at the company's midtown Manhattan headquarters. Gawkers lined up behind metal barricades, and bystanders took pictures with their cell phones.
The failure of Lehman and probable job losses at Merrill are also a blow to the New York City economy, which is still trying to absorb a blow from shrunken tax revenues after the collapse of Bear Stearns in March. The city and its outlying suburbs rely heavily on taxes paid by workers in the financial services industry.
In marathon sessions Friday night, Saturday and Sunday, government officials and the chief executives of major U.S. and foreign banks huddled at the New York Fed's fortress-like building in downtown Manhattan, trying to work out a way to save Lehman.
They failed at that. But a group of 10 banks that includes JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs and Citigroup formed a $70 billion pool that banks or brokerages can tap to cover short-term funding needs.
There were also worries that Lehman's problems would infect other financial companies and spread to global stock markets, further harming the U.S. and global economies.
The Fed meets Tuesday to decide interest rate policy. It's widely expected to keep rates at 2 percent, but some economists believe it could lower them to soothe Wall Street's frazzled nerves.
The financial turbulence could also further derail consumer confidence in the economy just as stores prepare for the critical holiday shopping season. The upheaval in the financial system also means that those consumers with marginal credit history will have an even harder time getting loans, cutting into consumer spending.
"The backdrop even without this was tough. This certainly adds to the worry level," said Michael P. Niemira, chief economist at The International Council of Shopping Centers.
Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain assailed "greed and corruption" on Wall Street and promised to clean it up, while his Democratic opponent, Sen. Barack Obama, blamed White House policies and said his opponent would only deliver more of the same.
Obama called it "the most serious financial crisis since the Great Depression." McCain declared in a new TV ad that "our economy is in crisis" and that only he and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, could fix it. McCain also told voters in Jacksonville, Fla., "The fundamentals of our economy are strong."
šta vele ekonomski stručnjaci i politički analitičari sa ovog foruma???
Nadajmo se da jeste. Smrt Americi, sloboda šumama!
Pre 40 godina, isao sam u osnovnu skolu, pamtim jos iz tog vremena da je Amerika "pocela da propada" (predpostavljam da je pocela i ranije)... I tako, do danasnjih dana, svako malo, Amerika propada... A svo to vreme mi smo "zemlja u razvoju", i to pod razlicitim nazivima, "buducnost je pred nama", isto pod razlicitim nazivima...napredak, progres, bratstvo i jedinstvo, tekovine revolucije....idi mi - dodji mi... Nama je sve bolje! A, Amerika propada, iz godine u godinu...
Ko je ovde lud?
Kada cemo prestati da prizivamo nevolje drugima? Ili, da se njima nasladjujemo? Kada cemo se okrenuti svojim nevoljama?
"...uglavnom, kuga je bila uspeh za njega, jer, od usamljenog coveka, a sto on nije zeleo da bude, ona je stvarala saucesnika. I to saucesnika koji se nasladjuje..." Kami, "Kuga"
Po recima Josepha Stiglitza, američka finansijska kriza neće imati amplitudu one iz 29-e godine. Umreženi kapital je stvorio ne samo globalne finansijske proizvode, nego i zaštite, pa će se tako šteta ograničiti.
Je si li sada mirniji, Ghoule, kada si saznao istinu i to ne bilo koju, nego od vrhunskog stručnjaka?
Quote from: "Cornelius"Po recima Josepha Stiglitza...
Sad znamo kako cvrkuće Štiglic. A, šta su rekla "dva vrana Gavrana"?
Quote from: "Cornelius"Je si li sada mirniji, Ghoule, kada si saznao istinu i to ne bilo koju, nego od vrhunskog stručnjaka?
Ne daj se, Ghoule! Poklonike horora ne treba da teše "ružičaste" i "narandžaste" vizije. Za njih znamo šta proizvode. Daj nešto crnpurasto...! Tvoj fan će da ti delne jednu mrčnu:
Gore navedeni cvrkutan pod spasonosnim globalnim umrežavanjem svetskih ekonomija misli da ekonomija SAD neće da rikne sama, kao prošli put. Ima svi da riknu, neće tamo neki Nikkei, Dax ili, ne dao Črnbog, neki Belef da preživi ako Dow Jones pukne. Jest', pa da bude 1$=1dinar, a prosečna plata 33.000 hiljade!
Pošto pored gravitacije na Zemlji postoji i otpor vazduha, što znači da postoji terminalna brzina, SAD ima nekoliko vrsta padobrana koji će usporiti stvar:
1. Ima da nađemo Higsov bozon - "božansku česticu", pa će da prodajemo 25$ funtu;
2. Samlećemo Aljasku i iscediti i poslednju kap nafte iz tamošnjih uljanih škriljaca (koje smo mi u Srbiji zaboravili da postoje i kod nas, pa će oni morati da dođu kod tebe u okolinu da to iscede);
3. Možda će Rusi da udele pola Sibira, pa da cedimo odatle. Nekako ne idu napori da se u Sibir uđe preko Koreje, Vijetnama, Kambodže, Irana, Avganistana, Iraka... a onaj Zulu Šaka cvili i nije ni za šta... Frak!
4. Onaj posao sa akcijama bez vrednosti nikako ne ide. Malo, malo, pa nam rikne neki Enron, Merril Linch, a o avio kompanijama da ne govorimo. Kako je krenulo, za deset godina jedini transport preko Okeana će ići preko Pirata sa Kariba (Kolumba nismo zombirali na vreme, a za Škote znamo da će da plivaju), a i to će voditi ona komunjara Džoni Dep ili neki južno od Kariba, koji hoće da nam skoro mufte isporučuju trave, a neće da poseku Amazon ili nam bar daju naftu...
5. Još ako poverioci budu tražili da vrate dugove koje smo napravili štampajući petrodolare, ima sve da izbombardujemo, pa da pokrenemo New Deal. Za to znamo da funkcioniše, a i svetska populacija će biti podnošljivija.
A, sad, "nešto sasvim drugačije"
1. pošto će globalno zagrevanje da potopi Holandiju i Belgiju, Srbija ima k'o od šale da dobije saglasnost o primeni Prelaznog Sporazuma i time konačno budu zadovoljni oni koje su "prešli".
2. Mrka će završiti koridor 10 (od Horgoša do Paprikaša), na kome ćemo napasati stoku, jer ko će voziti kola bez goriva? Železnicu ima skroz da rasturimo, umesto nju da sredimo. Šine već kradu, a ni pragovi nisu za bacanje. Ima da vozi jedino Kustin ću-ću trejn, ako mu sve ne razbiju lokalni hilbili i usput mu istegnu uši (da skiči dok ga vozaju). Po ostalom delu Srbije, bez ko-zna-čega-sve imaju da saobraćaju magarci, jer to uspešno gajimo i usavršavamo.
Jel' OK, šefe? Mogu ja i bolje! Za svako mesto gde se ugasi ima po nekoliko mrakova... Da napišem ja Prokleti sa Prokletija?
Quote from: "scallop"Da napišem ja Prokleti sa Prokletija?
Crnji od najcrnje noci, Prokleti sa Prokletija... A, ti li si to Bate Hlojge?
ja kao sveopći laik mislim da ako amerika padne da će sve pasti s njom i da se vraćamo u 1929
a poslije 1929 logički dolazi i 1933 i 1939
ps. neće pasti :)
Quote from: "Truba"ja kao sveopći laik mislim da ako amerika padne da će sve pasti s njom i da se vraćamo u 1929
a poslije 1929 logički dolazi i 1933 i 1939
pa ne dolaze '33 i '39... nema valjda više toliko jevreja? :evil:
Quote from: "Cornelius"Quote from: "scallop"Da napišem ja Prokleti sa Prokletija?
Crnji od najcrnje noci, Prokleti sa Prokletija... A, ti li si to Bate Hlojge?
Da se nagnemo na nj'g? 1984. bi to bila pedofilija. S'g je pravo vreme.
Radoznali da vide obim tsunamija neka se obaveste sa www.nytimes.com.
Quote from: "Truba"ja kao sveopći laik mislim da ako amerika padne da će sve pasti s njom i da se vraćamo u 1929
a poslije 1929 logički dolazi i 1933 i 1939
ps. neće pasti :)
Duvaj, Trubo! Ovih dana će da pukne i ploča na Titovom grobu. Pa, ćemo imati bratstvo i jedinstvo... PS. ti je goli optimizam. Jel' ćeš bolje da razumeš ako ti kažem da sam ovog proleća, u SAD, gledao izjavu lokalnog radnika koji je počeo da jaše svog konja do posla i nazad. U Vel. Britaniji jedan grad pustio u promet lokalni novac, ne bi li zaštitio lokalnu privredu. Meni su izvesnije neke Skrobonjine vizije. Ali, šta vredi, domaće autore niko ne čita. Naši bolje znaju engleski.
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Jel' ćeš bolje da razumeš ako ti kažem da sam ovog proleća, u SAD, gledao izjavu lokalnog radnika koji je počeo da jaše svog konja do posla i nazad. U Vel. Britaniji jedan grad pustio u promet lokalni novac, ne bi li zaštitio lokalnu privredu. Meni su izvesnije neke Skrobonjine vizije.
Evo sta u jednoj Skrobonjinoj knjizi peva Prorok u transu:
"Amerika i Engleska,
bice zemlja proleterska."
Quote from: "scallop"
Gore navedeni cvrkutan pod spasonosnim globalnim umrežavanjem svetskih ekonomija misli da ekonomija SAD neće da rikne sama, kao prošli put.
pa nije ni '30ih crkla sama. rekao bih da je depresija prva iznela na videlo globalnu umreženost nekog fenomena koji su ljudi stvorili - mislim na ekonomiju (pored globalnog gasnog omotača u kom su učestvovali disanjem i prdenjem pre depresije još).
ali činjenica je da bi danas veći broj drugih tržišta imao teže posledice nego onomad.
Nacionalne ekonomije su se globalno umrežile prvi put u istoriji, početkom 20. veka. Posle se samo nastavilo, pa se tako i prdnulo u čabar 29.
Kažu stručnjaci da se ovoga puta razlikuju prilike, pre svega, što je svetska ekonomija u usponu, nisu sve ekonomije u recesiji, za razliku od 29, kada su svi bili u negativi. Potom, kažu da su 29. godine države stisle pare i nisu pomagale banke, dok se sada sve države bave pumpanjem love u najvažnije gubitaše. Takodje, velike banke su stvorile fondove sa po 50 do 80 milijardi dolara, iz kojih gubitaši mogu da se zajme.
Zato se smatra da je ovo ljuta kriza, ali različitog tipa od one iz 29, uprkos činjenici da su zemlje zaduženije danas, nego što su bile u ono vreme. Tako, Amerika neće da propadne kao muda kroz pocepane gaće, što bi volelo bar 5 milijardi stanovnika naše planete (i ja takodje). Njih će, lagano, da otkupe Kinezi. Uslugu, po uslugu; preduzeće, po preduzeće.
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Ovo je potpuno tacno.
Quote from: "Cornelius"
Amerika neće da propadne kao muda kroz pocepane gaće, što bi volelo bar 5 milijardi stanovnika naše planete (i ja takodje). Njih će, lagano, da otkupe Kinezi.
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Ti hoćeš da kažeš kako će stvarno postati zemlja proleterska, ili će bar sva rukovodstva to biti - na čelu svih velikih američkih firmi drugovi članovi Komunističke Partije Kine!
Da to vidim, pa da mirne duše "bacim kašiku""!
Quote from: "Cornelius"Evo sta u jednoj Skrobonjinoj knjizi peva Prorok u transu:
Brate Kajsije, brinem ozbiljno za tebe. Krkaš toliko te trave da se ponašaš kao biljojed. Nemoj da izmišljaš Skrobonju, jer to nije fer prema njemu. Radi se o ciklusu "slobodnih srezova", a Mića će mi već objasniti da se to tako ne zove i da pojma nemam. Priče su bile o raspadnutoj Srbiji, a ja sada u njima vidim "slobodne srezove Amerike". Mogao bih to natenane da objasnim, ali bi to bilo mnogo za forum u kome niko nema pojma šta je zapravo "globalna finansijska mreža", šta se radi na Berzama u svetu itd. U našoj zemlji se bez finansijskih berzi živelo 50 godina, a i ovo što imamo je samo karikatura. Od saznanja imamo jednu TV seriju o berzanskim ekspertima i njihovim problemima, kako se "iscrpljuju radeći" i dolaze svakodnevno na "ivicu nervnog sloma". Oni koji veruju da su tu seriju "razumeli" imaju sliku o "šibicarenju" što berza, zapravo, i jeste. Radi se o tome da se između onih što bi da nešto rade i proizvedu i onih koji to žele ili mogu da kupe, umuvava enormni broj onih koji bi da na brzaka nešto od toga drpe. Da daju "povoljan zajam", da taj zajam osiguraju kod osiguravajućih firmi, da osiguravajuće firme ta osiguranja "reosiguraju" kod velikih osiguravajućih firmi, da kupe "na zeleno" neku proizvodnju kojoj fali "malo obrtnih sredstava", da u to ulože 5% buduće vrednosti proizvoda, da taj ulog preprodaju za 6,5% nekome ko će to da preproda za 7,2%, a stvarna buduća vrednost proizvoda tiče se samo krajnjeg kupca koji će na tome zaraditi svojih nekoliko procenata, ili izgubiti ako proizvod ne postigne projektovanu prodajnu cenu (projected retail price). Još nisam video proizvod u SAD koji je neko kupio po toj ceni. U celom tom procesu muntanja, veliki šefovi podele unapred bonuse zbog dobro izvedenog biznisa, pa ako sve pukne, onda najebu zaposleni, proizvođači i slični.
Nije čudno što u SAD dođu u dubiozu upravo veliki koncerni za investicije i reosiguranje. Oni koji će da me koriguju neka prvo pročitaju dokumentaciju o "Enron"-u, "Merril Linch"-u, "A.I.G" i sličnim, a meni ne mogu ništa: ja se ne zadužujem i pišem SF, a naukom se ne bavim.
A sad, samo SF: "Slobodni američki srezovi" će se generisati iz troškova prevoza od kuće do posla. Već sam pomenuo čoveka koji zbog cene prevoza svakog dana sedla konja. Pomenuću vam slučaj žene koja živi na severozapadu Pensilvanije, Milford, otprilike (svaka od država SAD ima Milford), a radi, slabo plaćen posao na Menhetnu, Njujork. Na TV je izjavila da više ne može da izdrži da svakog radnog dana radi devet sati (lunch included) i šest sati putuje. I, treće i poslednje, ako isključimo neke od velikih gradova na obalama dvaju okeana koji su "ušoreni", svi gradovi su isparcelicani na blokove veličine
square mile, pa kad neko živi u 121 South Av. do radnog mesta u 41 North Av. ima da potegne 26 kilometara, ako je put
straight, a ako je u "šreh", zna se - kvadrat nad hipotenuzom... Ta organizacija ima da lokalizuje do desetak blokova u "slobodne američke srezove", što je sasvim u skladu sa Skrobonjinim vizijama.
Ja kad davim - davim. Neka vam bude za utehu, da bih mogao i više.
Ljudi su radili daleko od mesta gde zive jer je gorivo bilo smesno jeftino. Sad je gorivo skluplje, i zato ce ljudi da nalaze poslove blize svojoj kuci. Ovo za posledicu ima da ce ljudi manje vremena da trose na putu, a vise sa svojom porodicom. Ja glasam za recesiju!
Quote from: "mac"Ljudi su radili daleko od mesta gde zive jer je gorivo bilo smesno jeftino. Sad je gorivo skluplje, i zato ce ljudi da nalaze poslove blize svojoj kuci. Ovo za posledicu ima da ce ljudi manje vremena da trose na putu, a vise sa svojom porodicom. Ja glasam za recesiju!
plemenito :!:
pala jedna banka zbog duga od 600 milijardi... na tržištu od nekoliko stotina triliona... evo pucaju, sve trče pa zapinju...
Ameri su 1997. napisali Project for the New American century. Ne gledaju oni kao naši politikanti šta će da rade sutra i prekosutra... odmah je jedan ekonomista rekao ''niko se ovoga neće sjećati kroz 10-20 godina''.
Činjenica jeste da su vizantijski ''neoliberalizam'' i srpski ''velikaši'' na komate razdrobili carstvo, i da se slična faudalizacija vrši pod zastavom neoliberalizma, ali nije SAD Vizantija bre... Ona može biti i bolja i gora, a šta će biti, vidjećemo. AKo gledaš MTV - biće gora.
A ako gledaš rat u Iraku i Avganistanu, USA će biti siromašnija. Jedan dan ih košta 450 miliona dolara.
da, ali npr da je došlo do povezivanja Irak -Iran-Avganistan, to je region koji ima više stanovnika od Rusije, veći su fanatici, a hoće da grade nuklearke.
SADu ne odgovara ujedinjenje islamskog svijeta i to vrijedi i više od tih 450 miliona.
Ja sam se uvijek čudio poslodavcima koji između 2 relativno slična kandidata ne izaberu onoga koji im je bliži
ne moraju plaćati benzin ili tramvajsku kartu mjesečno
u našem slučaju godišnja tramvajska karta iznosi kao jedna plata... a u firmama koje imaju više radnika skontajte koja je to suma... tako sam prestao plaćati kartu i nakon godine imam biciklo od 300 eura
a da ne govorimo o ministarstvima koja još plaćaju za odvojen život i smještaj svojim savjetnicima i parazitima .....
daj mi telefon tvog šefa da te pohvalim
Quote from: "Albedo 0"SADu ne odgovara ujedinjenje islamskog svijeta i to vrijedi i više od tih 450 miliona.
Rat do sada košta američke gradjane preko 1.000 milijardi dolara. A posle će imati da plaćaju sve one invalide (2 miliona je prošlo kroz ratište i 80 % je tražilo invalidu; dobiće većina), da plaćaju sve veći broj privatnih preduzeća koji iznajmljuju ubice, da plaćaju sve veći broj privatnika koji će obavljati opasne poslove, da bace u djubre svu onu tehniku... I još mnogo drugih troškova. Zar si ti zaista ubedjen da USA investira u ovaj rat iz ideoloških i verskih razloga?
nisu to ideološki ni vjerski razlozi, to su geostrateški razlozi.
Pa šta misliš, zašto se ratovalo u Koreji, Vijetnamu, zašto je Tajvan nezavisna država, iako pripada Kini, zašto je Japan američki saveznik? Pa pogledaj kartu pa će ti se samo kasti...
Ujedinjeni, muslimani bi bili najjača sila na planeti, jača i od Kineza.
Razlog je moć. Plain and simple.
Sad se tek vidi da je od Koreje i Vijetnama još započelo to opkoljavanje Rusije i Kine kao dva najveća giganta, onda je došao na red Avganistan 1979. pa odmah i Irak, pa su Saudijci postali demokratska država preko noći... U Turskoj su još ranije imali rakete, sad će ih imati i u Češkoj i Poljskoj. Krug je završen. To je inače Kenanova doktrina.
Sad Rusija nije jedini ni tako velik tamkac kakva je bila, pa su se opet koncentrisali na onesposobljavanje muslimana.
Ma, nisu njima muslimani takmaci. Njihov novi takmac su Kina, Indija, Rusija i Brazil. Četiri nove imperije koji grupišu više od polovine čovečanstva i koje drmaju svetskom ekonomijom sve više. USA može da drnda Arape i da tako ukazuje na svoju veliku moć (tandara broć, tandara broć), ali ne sme da podje na ove velike, jer će da popije maru.
Stvari se menjaju i došlo je vreme, što reče jedan moj drugar - vo da legne, mače da ga ljulja.
Indija je ipak bivša britanska kolonija, te i nisu neka opasnost. Brazil je daleko od pravog takmaca, Rusija i Kina su regionalni lideri, a nikad neće biti primamljivi kao ''avatar modernosti'', kako nazivaju AMeriku. Avatar modernosti ima mnogo više da ponudi.
Nikoga ne zanima kineski i ruski jezik, kultura i religija (to su oružja u međunarodnim odnosima), a i nemaju baš neku demokratsku reputaciju.
Islamske zemlje - u to možeš da računa i EU, ako će 2050 muslimani biti većina po sadašnjem stanju stanovništva. One su fanatične, bukvalno se približavaju šerijatskom pravu u BiH.... i naravno nafta, koje su Irak i Avganistan puni.
Albedo 0, uzeo si mnogo pretenciozan nick. Sigurno znaš da su: nigredo - rubedo i albedo, tri osnovne faze alhemijskog procesa (opet alhemija!). Daleko si od kamena mudrosti. Osim, ako ono 0 nema značenje da je puk'o eksperiment.
Kad napišeš da su muslimani opasnost, jer bi mogli da se ujedine, to je kao kad bi rekao da su hrišćani opasnost jer bi mogli da se ujedine. Ili, da su budisti opasnost... izvinjavam se, ne mogu da nastavim...
Kad pomeneš naftu (energiju - ne zaboravi da su i svi ostali vidovi energije, osim vode, kod njih) to već ima smisla. Šta će njima tolika nafta, kad bi Ameri to mogli bolje da izarče?
Ovo je za one koji ne znaju da je prostor od Stenovitih planina do lanca Apalachian bukvalno prazan. Svaki grad koji na karti vidite ima natakaren downtown da izgleda kao grad, a sve ostalo je tako udaljeno jedno od drugog da ne postoji "bliže radno mesto". Po Majklu Muru uskoro neće postojati ni "radna mesta". Kad vidite tumble weed kako se kotrlja po vašim ekranima, to je surova realnost.
Mislim da "albedo 0" znači "najcrnje crnilo". Al' opet ispadne pretenciozno :)
:roll: taj brazil se diže 20 godina otkako pratim "dizanje uspavanih divova"
do tad neki i padoše i podigoše se a brazil se i dalje diže i opet je ispod ovih što padoše mada ne kažem da je loš :wink:
scallop, albedo je fizička mjera, kao vat ili volt i slično... nije alhemija
sami Amerikanci, naravno ne oni u State Departmentu, nego njihovi profesori političkih nauka, tvrde da će npr SAD uvijek podržati muslimane na Balkanu zato da bi pokazali kako oni u stvari nisu neprijatelji islama, nego npr diktatora Huseina ili terorizma, ali ne i islama. Takve zahtjeve za podršku Bošnjacima i Šiptarima su dobili od Saudijske Arabije na primjer.
Dakle, ajde što ja lupam, ali zašto oni to rade ako ne žele da osakate islamski svijet? Itekako računaju na njihovu moć jer je islam u stvari jedina religija ili ideologija od pomenutih (Rusa, Kineza...) koja može da ugrozi američku ideologiju. Mnogo je lakše prihvatiti islam i odbiti amerikanizam, nego prihvatiti konfučijanstvo ili pravoslavlje. To oni znaju i zbog porasta muslimana u sopstvenoj zemlji.
Quote from: "mac"Mislim da "albedo 0" znači "najcrnje crnilo". Al' opet ispadne pretenciozno :)
Volim te, БЛЛЛЛ! Nabavi "Rašane" kad se pojave na Sajmu knjige, a ja ći ti lično napisati posvetu.
Nigredo je faza crnila, zemlje iz koje treba istisnuti zlato ili "kamen mudrosti", rubedo je uzarena crvena međufaza, a albedo je belo usijanje! Konačno rešenje.
fizička mjera! :lol:
The word albedo is a general term for the ratio of reflected/scattered power.
Quote from: "Albedo 0"scallop, albedo je fizička mjera, kao vat ili volt i slično... nije alhemija
Ovo nije tačno. Albedo je - alhemijski termin.
Quote from: "Albedo 0"sami Amerikanci, naravno ne oni u State Departmentu, nego njihovi profesori političkih nauka, tvrde da će npr SAD uvijek podržati muslimane na Balkanu zato da bi pokazali kako oni u stvari nisu neprijatelji islama, nego npr diktatora Huseina ili terorizma, ali ne i islama. Takve zahtjeve za podršku Bošnjacima i Šiptarima su dobili od Saudijske Arabije na primjer.
Ovo je tačno.
Quote from: "Albedo 0"Dakle, ajde što ja lupam, ali zašto oni to rade ako ne žele da osakate islamski svijet? Itekako računaju na njihovu moć jer je islam u stvari jedina religija ili ideologija od pomenutih (Rusa, Kineza...) koja može da ugrozi američku ideologiju. Mnogo je lakše prihvatiti islam i odbiti amerikanizam, nego prihvatiti konfučijanstvo ili pravoslavlje. To oni znaju i zbog porasta muslimana u sopstvenoj zemlji.
Islam ima isto toliko nepomirljivo suprotstavljenih frakcija koliko i hrišćanstvo. Oni će se poklati oko Muhamedovih naslednika, bio to Alija ili Mahdi ili neki drugi mula, kao i mi zbog toga da li se krstimo s leva na desno ili s desna na levo. Muslimani (kao što sam već napomenuo i ja i neki drugi) drže rezerve nafte i počeli su da rade nešto nezgodno - sve manje bacaju pare, a sve više grade budućnost svojih populacija. Takođe, posađeni su uz južne ruske granice, a Indija i Kina imaju po milijardu stanovnika i bombe, pa je teško kroz njih. Evo, sad će da probaju sa Pakistanom, pa ćemo videti.
Tu ne računam američki lokalni protestantizam, koji u dobroj meri gravitira najbližem ćošku gde se nalazi neka od crkava. Takve crkve su mesto okupljanja, socijalizacije, a najčešće statusni objekt. Treba li da ti objašnjavam da ćerkina porodica ide u prezviterijansku crkvu, zato što su Stewart i zato što to utiče na porodični ugled. Najmlađi unuk je u obdaništu pri baptističkoj crkvi, jer je to najbliže mesto, a dobro je družiti se i sa baptistima. Ako u gradu nema odgovarajuće crkve ide se u neku sledeću.
Znači: ni to nije tačno.
Quote from: "scallop"Quote from: "Albedo 0"scallop, albedo je fizička mjera, kao vat ili volt i slično... nije alhemija
Ovo nije tačno. Albedo je - alhemijski termin. Kao odnos između odbijene i skrenute energije je pozniji termin od mog školovanja. To ti je kao kad bi teslu stavio ispred Nikole Tesle.
Quote from: "Albedo 0"sami Amerikanci, naravno ne oni u State Departmentu, nego njihovi profesori političkih nauka, tvrde da će npr SAD uvijek podržati muslimane na Balkanu zato da bi pokazali kako oni u stvari nisu neprijatelji islama, nego npr diktatora Huseina ili terorizma, ali ne i islama. Takve zahtjeve za podršku Bošnjacima i Šiptarima su dobili od Saudijske Arabije na primjer.
Ovo je tačno.
Quote from: "Albedo 0"Dakle, ajde što ja lupam, ali zašto oni to rade ako ne žele da osakate islamski svijet? Itekako računaju na njihovu moć jer je islam u stvari jedina religija ili ideologija od pomenutih (Rusa, Kineza...) koja može da ugrozi američku ideologiju. Mnogo je lakše prihvatiti islam i odbiti amerikanizam, nego prihvatiti konfučijanstvo ili pravoslavlje. To oni znaju i zbog porasta muslimana u sopstvenoj zemlji.
Islam ima isto toliko nepomirljivo suprotstavljenih frakcija koliko i hrišćanstvo. Oni će se poklati oko Muhamedovih naslednika, bio to Alija ili Mahdi ili neki drugi mula, kao i mi zbog toga da li se krstimo s leva na desno ili s desna na levo. Muslimani (kao što sam već napomenuo i ja i neki drugi) drže rezerve nafte i počeli su da rade nešto nezgodno - sve manje bacaju pare, a sve više grade budućnost svojih populacija. Takođe, posađeni su uz južne ruske granice, a Indija i Kina imaju po milijardu stanovnika i bombe, pa je teško kroz njih. Evo, sad će da probaju sa Pakistanom, pa ćemo videti.
Tu ne računam američki lokalni protestantizam, koji u dobroj meri gravitira najbližem ćošku gde se nalazi neka od crkava. Takve crkve su mesto okupljanja, socijalizacije, a najčešće statusni objekt. Treba li da ti objašnjavam da ćerkina porodica ide u prezviterijansku crkvu, zato što su Stewart i zato što to utiče na porodični ugled. Najmlađi unuk je u obdaništu pri baptističkoj crkvi, jer je to najbliže mesto, a dobro je družiti se i sa baptistima. Ako u gradu nema odgovarajuće crkve ide se u neku sledeću.
Znači: ni to nije tačno.
Quote from: "Albedo 0"Indija je ipak bivša britanska kolonija, te i nisu neka opasnost. Brazil je daleko od pravog takmaca, Rusija i Kina su regionalni lideri.
Ja bih samo dodao na tvoju teoriju o Indiji da je Brazil bivša portugalska kolonija, te ih portugalska armija može da spizdi u blickrigu, za dan, dva. Rusija je samo regionalni lider zbog siromaštva, jer je u pitanju mala zemlja koja nema nikakvih sirovina, niti potencijala. O Kini je teško i govoriti, pa oni su komunistička zemlja, a svi znamo da komunizam i ekonomija nemaju ničeg zajedničkog.
Za razliku od njih, ti neki tvoji muslimani imaju sve ono što može da ugrozi Ameriku. Valjda si mislio na eksploziv.
Ej, čoveče, o čemu ti pričaš???!!! Pa, tako se razglaba po kafanama posle šestog piva! Ne vredi da ti pišem spisak knjiga za čitanje, jer ih nećeš čitati.
scallop, dobro bre koliko puta trebam da ponavljam? ALbedo je broj koji pokazuje moć odrazivanja svjetlosti nekog tijela koje ne svijetli. Npr Mjesecu koji odbija svjetlost od Sunca je albedo 0,07( od maksimalnih 1). Venera 0,59.... to je jačina odražene svjetlosti
kakva bre alhemija, ne znam ništa o alhemiji.
drugo, muslimanima treba samo državni razlog i dobiće državu, kakve bre ima veze koliko frakcija ima, sigurno ih ima manje nego hrišćanskih u SADu, i sigurno se smatraju međusobno bližimo nego Rusima ili Amerima. Za Amere je najveći problem uzdizanje muslimana pošto odatle uzimaju naftu i to ne žele da im dozvole. Radije će ući u savez sa Kinom nego da dopuste razvoj muslimanske unije.
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Cornelius, dovoljno je što si rekao da je Rusija zemlja siromašna sirovinama i da razgovor bude završen....
To što ti nešto ne znaš ne znači da to ne stoji kao fakat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo_(alchemy)
Ako si mu rekla. :wink:
Mada ti nista ne vredi. :x
Mislio sam da ne radim to...ali... moram da se umesam.
I Scallop je u pravu, albedo jeste (i) faza alhemijslog procesa
Anđela, ja sam već napisao šta je albedo, a tvoja wikipedia to samo potvrđuje.
To je fizička mjera, ako je ''i alhemijski neki simbol'', to nije razlog zbog kojeg sam ja izabrao neki nick, niti poznajem alhemiju.
Dakle, kad kažem da je to fizička mjera, mogao bih da to ne ponavljam četiri puta.
lijepo ti piše na tvojoj wikipediji da nije alhemija
The albedo is an important concept in climatology and astronomy.
It is therefore a more specific form of the term reflectivity. Albedo is defined as the ratio of diffusely reflected to incident electromagnetic radiation.
zato Kler dođe posljednji da dokaže i pokaže svoju glupost :lol:
Samo se ti nedaj!
Nek pocrkaju dusmani!
Izvoli adresu jos jednog foruma: http://www.4chan.org/
:lol:
Pošto su Kinezi otkupili deo IBM-a (koji, u onom drugom delu radi za Pentagon), evo ih na vratima Wall Streeta. Morgan Stanley, gigantska nezavisna poslovna banka, pored Goldman Sachsa, jedina tog formata u USA, trudi se da izbegne budući bankrot i od jutros pregovara sa kineskom bankom CITIC.
Ma, ko to kaže,
ko to laže,
da Amerika i Engleska
neće biti zemlja proleterska.
Kina ima 1400 milijardi (30 godišnjih BDPa Srbije) u američkim bankama, neće ona da se zamjeri Americi kad ona odlučuje da li će da se investira u Kinu ili ne. Tako da Ameri itekako vuku konce na sve strane, žilava je to sorta, mnogo su pokupili od Vizantije, a to je ipak carstvo koje je hiljadu godina postojalo.
Grmalj (Bush) tražio od Kongresa 700 milijardi dolara da pomogne "posrnulu svetsku ekonomiju". Koji altruizam! Samo se brine da svet ne najebe! Mislim da bi trebalo da podeli sa Ahtisarijem Nobelovu nagradu za mir! Ako je već nisu dali Badinteru kad je zaključio da je Jugoslavija "država u raspadanju".
@Albedo: argh, sad vidim ovo. Nije preneo ceo link, zato si dobio to što si dobio. Kopipejstuj ovo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo_(alchemy)
Znam da nisi zbog toga odabrao nick, ali albedo jeste i pojam iz alhemije i bio je to mnogo pre nego što je uopšte postojala fizička mera o kojoj govoriš. Po tom pojmu je i mera verovatno dobila ime.
Razlog zbog kojeg ovo pišem je taj što si rekao da albedo nije pojam iz alhemije, a jeste. To što si ti odabrao nick prema jednom značenju nekog pojma ne znači da ostala značenja ne postoje. Svet nije ograničen samo na ono što je poznato tebi.
Quote from: "scallop"Grmalj (Bush) tražio od Kongresa 700 milijardi dolara da pomogne "posrnulu svetsku ekonomiju". Koji altruizam!
Pare idu za americku ekonomiju. Nacionalizacija banki i osiguravajucih drustva. Nemam utisak da ce da spasavaju Al Italiju od propasti.
Quote from: "Cornelius"Pare idu za americku ekonomiju. Nacionalizacija banki i osiguravajucih drustva.
Brate Kajsije, debil je navedenim rečima obrazložio zahtev Kongresu. Nacionalizacija je deo proletarizacije SAD. Ček' kad se do'vati kulaka! Mislim kad Meksikanci zbrišu kući, pa budu prisiljeni sami da kopaju...
Quote from: "scallop"debil je navedenim rečima obrazložio zahtev Kongresu.
Debil je isto tako rekao da je kredža od 600 milijardi evra za odbranu mira u svetu, a svi su znali da pare idu za rat u Iraku, tačnije u kase raznih Halibartona i ostalih razbojnika. Da sam ja kojim slučajem Amer koji plaća porez, pitao bih se gde idu moje pare. Medjutim, debil je predsednik debilima, a ona manjina koja nije debilna i ne može da utiče na dogadjanja.
Quote from: "Cornelius"Quote from: "scallop"debil je navedenim rečima obrazložio zahtev Kongresu.
Da sam ja kojim slučajem Amer koji plaća porez, pitao bih se gde idu moje pare.
A posto si, sasvim slucajno, stanovnik Srbije, zasto ti ne padne na pamet da priupitas gde idu pare srpskih poreskih obveznika, pa i tvoje? :idea:
Cornelius nije stanovnik Srbije.
Cornelius
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A, da, vidim! On je sa brda. Pa neka pita na brdu gde idu pare koje uplacuje "brdskim vlastima"
Quote from: "angel011"@Albedo: argh, sad vidim ovo. Nije preneo ceo link, zato si dobio to što si dobio. Kopipejstuj ovo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo_(alchemy)
Znam da nisi zbog toga odabrao nick, ali albedo jeste i pojam iz alhemije i bio je to mnogo pre nego što je uopšte postojala fizička mera o kojoj govoriš. Po tom pojmu je i mera verovatno dobila ime.
Razlog zbog kojeg ovo pišem je taj što si rekao da albedo nije pojam iz alhemije, a jeste. To što si ti odabrao nick prema jednom značenju nekog pojma ne znači da ostala značenja ne postoje. Svet nije ograničen samo na ono što je poznato tebi.
da, ali kad me neko pita ''zašto baš taj nick'' ne mogu da mu odgovorim ''zato što je to alhemijski simbol za koji nikad nisam čuo'', zar ne?
Dakle, nick je zbog fizičke mjere, scallop umjesto da doda da je to ''i'' alhemijski simbol, tri puta insistira da je to ''samo'' alhemijski simbol, i naravno da ćemo onda da gubimo vrijeme na ovakve stvari...
Ja sam rekao da ništa ne znam o alhemiji.
Quote from: "Albedo 0"Dakle, nick je zbog fizičke mjere, scallop umjesto da doda da je to ''i'' alhemijski simbol, tri puta insistira da je to ''samo'' alhemijski simbol, i naravno da ćemo onda da gubimo vrijeme na ovakve stvari...
Ja sam rekao da ništa ne znam o alhemiji.
Napisao sam i da se Nikola Tesla ne zove po tesli. Red je da nešto i naučiš. Ja sam naučio iako sam pre 30 godina brojao aerosole (to nije alhemijski termin) na osnovu skrenute svetlosti (scattered light). Sedni malo i vidi kad je Teofrastus Bombastus Paracelzus praktično razdvojio alhemiju od nauke kakvu danas poznajemo. Malo dodatne pameti nikada nije na odmet.
U pravu ste i jedan i drugi! To smo svi apsolvirali na ovom topicu.
Ali, scallope, zasto vasdan napadas coveka, uporno insistirajuci na tome da se konacno dokaze sta je starije - kokoska ili jaje?!
Nemas druga posla?
Quote from: "tragac"U pravu ste i jedan i drugi! To smo svi apsolvirali na ovom topicu.
Ali, scallope, zasto vasdan napadas coveka, uporno insistirajuci na tome da se konacno dokaze sta je starije - kokoska ili jaje?!
Nemas druga posla?
Starije je - jaje.
A uz to je lakše nekog gađati jajetom nego kokoškom. :lol:
Quote from: "scallop"Quote from: "tragac"U pravu ste i jedan i drugi! To smo svi apsolvirali na ovom topicu.
Ali, scallope, zasto vasdan napadas coveka, uporno insistirajuci na tome da se konacno dokaze sta je starije - kokoska ili jaje?!
Nemas druga posla?
Starije je - jaje.
Dobro.
Ali, kada je jaje staro, onda ono postane mucak, i iz njega se ne izlegne nista osim smrada.
Opet, kako hoces. Neka bude jaje.
Quote from: "angel011"A uz to je lakše nekog gađati jajetom nego kokoškom. :lol:
I o ovome bi se moglo diskutovati... Ako vec treba nekoga da gadjam, radije bih ga zategao mrtvom kokoskom nego jajetom. Ovde nije pitanje sta je lakse, vec sta je delotvornije! :wink:
scallop, pitanje nije bilo ''šta je albedo'' već ''šta je moj nick''(a valjda to ja najbolje znam). Stoga - starija je kokoška 8)
Quote from: "Albedo 0"scallop, pitanje nije bilo ''šta je albedo'' već ''šta je moj nick''(a valjda to ja najbolje znam). Stoga - starija je kokoška 8)
Eto ga sad ovaj!!!!
Kakve sve to veze ima sa propadanjem Amerike???
pa ako ih gađaš jajima, nećeš ništa postići
ako ih gađaš kokoškama, možda dobiju ptičiji grip
Pa to.
Vidis da je delotvornije! :evil:
Quote from: "tragac"Ali, kada je jaje staro, onda ono postane mucak, i iz njega se ne izlegne nista osim smrada.
Opet, kako hoces. Neka bude jaje.
Boban je tebe odavno pročitao i definisao kao - provokatora. Pored toga si i nekulturan. Ja znam sa takvima da izađem na kraj, ali još nisam odlučio.
Ti si bio taj koji je ovaj topik odveo ustranu.
Albedo je dobio informaciju da je albedo stariji alhemijski termin, a ja sam dobio inforamaciju da nešto što sam odavno koristio ima i savremenu definiciju. Čista posla.
Cornelius je francuski državljanin i on ima muke sa svojim Sarkozijem.
Amerika ima svoje probleme i oni vremenom neće postati lakši. Ono od čega treba da strepimo je da će izazvati svetski rat sa katastrofalnim posledicama, jer svoje probleme neće moći da reše.
Na kraju, ako imaš imalo morala u svojoj tintari, pogledaj početak svog topika, kad su se svi ostrvili na tebe, ja sam bio jedini koji te je pošteno pozvao na normalno druženje. Budući da si pokazao da za to nisi sposoban, povlačim tu ponudu, pa vidi kako ćeš da opstaneš ovde.
"Cornelius je francuski državljanin i on ima muke sa svojim Sarkozijem." Ja bih dodao - i ne samo sa njim, nego i sire. Kako starim, svi mi politicari idu na nerve.
Soundtrack za ovu temu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyNEefLSNCQ
Hitno, alert, uzbuna...
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ross Domestic Product (GDP) is a convenient way of measuring and comparing the size of national economies. Annual GDP represents the market value of all goods and services produced within a country in a year. Put differently:
GDP = consumption + investment + government spending + (exports – imports)
Although the economies of countries like China and India are growing at an incredible rate, the US remains the nation with the highest GDP in the world – and by far: US GDP is projected to be $13,22 trillion (or $13.220 billion) in 2007, according to this source. That's almost as much as the economies of the next four (Japan, Germany, China, UK) combined.
The creator of this map has had the interesting idea to break down that gigantic US GDP into the GDPs of individual states, and compare those to other countries' GDP. What follows, is this slightly misleading map – misleading, because the economies both of the US states and of the countries they are compared with are not weighted for their respective populations.
Pakistan, for example, has a GDP that's slightly higher than Israel's – but Pakistan has a population of about 170 million, while Israel is only 7 million people strong. The US states those economies are compared with (Arkansas and Oregon, respectively) are much closer to each other in population: 2,7 million and 3,4 million.
And yet, wile a per capita GDP might give a good indication of the average wealth of citizens, a ranking of the economies on this map does serve two interesting purposes: it shows the size of US states' economies relative to each other (California is the biggest, Wyoming the smallest), and it links those sizes with foreign economies (which are therefore also ranked: Mexico's and Russia's economies are about equal size, Ireland's is twice as big as New Zealand's). Here's a run-down of the 50 states, plus DC:
1. California, it is often said, would be the world's sixth- or seventh-largest economy if it was a separate country. Actually, that would be the eighth, according to this map, as France (with a GDP of $2,15 trillion) is #8 on the aforementioned list.
2. Texas' economy is significantly smaller, exactly half of California's, as its GDP compares to that of Canada (#10, $1,08 trillion).
3. Florida also does well, with its GDP comparable to Asian tiger South Korea's (#13 at $786 billion).
4. Illinois – Mexico (GDP #14 at $741 billion)
5. New Jersey – Russia (GDP #15 at $733 billion)
6. Ohio – Australia (GDP #16 at $645 billion)
7. New York – Brazil (GDP #17 at $621 billion)
8. Pennsylvania – Netherlands (GDP #18 at $613 billion)
9. Georgia – Switzerland (GDP #19 at $387 billion)
10. North Carolina – Sweden (GDP #20 at $371 billion)
11. Massachusetts – Belgium (GDP #21 at $368 billion)
12. Washington – Turkey (GDP #22 at $358 billion)
13. Virginia – Austria (GDP #24 at $309 billion)
14. Tennessee – Saudi Arabia (GDP #25 at $286 billion)
15. Missouri – Poland (GDP #26 at $265 billion)
16. Louisiana – Indonesia (GDP #27 at $264 billion)
17. Minnesota – Norway (GDP #28 at $262 billion)
18. Indiana – Denmark (GDP #29 at $256 billion)
19. Connecticut – Greece (GDP #30 at $222 billion)
20. Michigan – Argentina (GDP #31 at $210 billion)
21. Nevada – Ireland (GDP #32 at $203 billion)
22. Wisconsin – South Africa (GDP #33 at $200 billion)
23. Arizona – Thailand (GDP #34 at $197 billion)
24. Colorado – Finland (GDP #35 at $196 billion)
25. Alabama – Iran (GDP #36 at $195 billion)
26. Maryland – Hong Kong (#37 at $187 billion GDP)
27. Kentucky – Portugal (GDP #38 at $177 billion)
28. Iowa – Venezuela (GDP #39 at $148 billion)
29. Kansas – Malaysia (GDP #40 at $132 billion)
30. Arkansas – Pakistan (GDP #41 at $124 billion)
31. Oregon – Israel (GDP #42 at $122 billion)
32. South Carolina – Singapore (GDP #43 at $121 billion)
33. Nebraska – Czech Republic (GDP #44 at $119 billion)
34. New Mexico – Hungary (GDP #45 at $113 billion)
35. Mississippi – Chile (GDP #48 at $100 billion)
36. DC – New Zealand (#49 at $99 billion GDP)
37. Oklahoma – Philippines (GDP #50 at $98 billion)
38. West Virginia – Algeria (GDP #51 at $92 billion)
39. Hawaii – Nigeria (GDP #53 at $83 billion)
40. Idaho – Ukraine (GDP #54 at $81 billion)
41. Delaware – Romania (#55 at $79 billion GDP)
42. Utah – Peru (GDP #56 at $76 billion)
43. New Hampshire – Bangladesh (GDP #57 at $69 billion)
44. Maine – Morocco (GDP #59 at $57 billion)
45. Rhode Island – Vietnam (GDP #61 at $48 billion)
46. South Dakota – Croatia (GDP #66 at $37 billion)
47. Montana – Tunisia (GDP #69 at $33 billion)
48. North Dakota – Ecuador (GDP #70 at $32 billion)
49. Alaska – Belarus (GDP #73 at $29 billion)
50. Vermont – Dominican Republic (GDP #81 at $20 billion)
51. Wyoming – Uzbekistan (GDP #101 at $11 billion)
Nezadovoljan razvojem dogadjaja zahtevam od predsednika Borisa Tadica da hitno zatrazi od Rusije ukljucivanje teslinog tajnog oruzja poznatijeg pod nazivom A-241/BIS device i brisanje sa lica Severne Amerike kao i dela Australije i Novog Zelanda.
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"According to this top secret Russian document," dated February 26, 1973, we read, "Soviet military engineers" were interested in what they refer to as "assumed changes in geographical structure of Earth continents which may happen as a result of correction of gravity field of the Earth by the A-241/BIS device."
The A-241/BIS device! I wonder what Rem Koolhaas could do with that.
These "plans" were signed by KGB General Chief Yuri Andropov.
Notice, of course, that they leave Cuba intact.
"Ti si bio taj koji je ovaj topik odveo ustranu."
Ovo nije tacno!
"Albedo 0, uzeo si mnogo pretenciozan nick. Sigurno znaš da su: nigredo - rubedo i albedo, tri osnovne faze alhemijskog procesa (opet alhemija!). Daleko si od kamena mudrosti. Osim, ako ono 0 nema značenje da je puk'o eksperiment......."
Od ovog posta pocinje odvlacenje na "drugu stranu"
"Cornelius je francuski državljanin i on ima muke sa svojim Sarkozijem."
Izvinjavam se Corneliusu sto sam pomislio da je, ne daj Boze, Beogradjanin. Ne poznajem coveka, ali, nije mi jasno zbog cega je sramota u profilu, na mestu zvanom "lokacija", upisati nesto normalno. "Na brdu" ne znaci nista. Ili, moze da znaci Banovo, Petlovo, Labudovo, Brdo kod Kranja..... Opet, greska je moja, trebalo je da pitam! Sorry
"Na kraju, ako imaš imalo morala u svojoj tintari, pogledaj početak svog topika, kad su se svi ostrvili na tebe, ja sam bio jedini koji te je pošteno pozvao na normalno druženje. Budući da si pokazao da za to nisi sposoban, povlačim tu ponudu, pa vidi kako ćeš da opstaneš ovde. "
Nemam problema sa moralom, scallope, ja sam covek koji mirno spava.
Da li cu opstati ovde ili ne – nebitno.
Da li cemo se upoznati ili ne, da li je tvoja ponuda za druzenje zaista bila "postena" ili ne, ni to nije bitno. Opet, greska je tvoja, ne odbijaj ljude "na keca", ne treskaj vrata dupetom, nikada se ne zna, mozda nesto novo naucis...
"Boban je tebe odavno pročitao i definisao kao - provokatora."
Ovo prebaci u topic "Hvala Bobanu"
"Pored toga si i nekulturan. "
Zbog cega? Da li zbog toga sto ne nastupam snishodljivo, zato sto ne podilazim velikim piscima...?
"Ja znam sa takvima da izađem na kraj, ali još nisam odlučio. "
Odluci.
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK
The Outstanding Public Debt as of 07 Oct 2008 at 09:19:06 PM GMT is:
10 190 820 076 899, 23 $ US
The estimated population of the United States is 304,866,208
so each citizen's share of this debt is $33,427.19.
The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$3.15 billion per day since September 28, 2007!
Eto još jednog jubileja - dug im je prešao lepu okruglu cifru od 10 hiljada milijardi dolara. Ajd, živeli!!! xcheers
Hm, Corneliuse, to mi ide na ono - neka komsiji krava bude kao čivava!
Ne raduje me to, mislim da ne bi trebalo da nazdravljamo zbog takvih vesti, znamo vrlo dobro kako ONI izlaze iz kriza u koje upadaju - svi drugi, na ovaj ili onaj nacin, najebu.
Uzgred, euro je opet 80 dinara...
Quote from: "tragac"
Uzgred, euro je opet 80 dinara...
Nezavisni strucnjaci su listom u jesen 2006. tvrdili da ce evro do decembra te godine da bude 120 din.
Quote from: "marlowe"Quote from: "tragac"
Uzgred, euro je opet 80 dinara...
Nezavisni strucnjaci su listom u jesen 2006. tvrdili da ce evro do decembra te godine da bude 120 din.
Nebitno, pusti strucnjake iz 2006-te
Ovde govorimo o tome sta je danas
QuoteAmerička vlada je u ovom slučaju tražila u proseku 2.300 dolara od svakog građanina da bi stabilizovala tržište, što se većini kongresmena početkom prošle nedelje učinilo previše.
Međutim, u petak je predlog prerađen i Kongres je ipak odobrio ovu finansijsku injekciju. Šta se desilo što je ovaj trošak za samo četiri dana učinilo prihvatljivim? Da li su američki kongresmeni shvatili da je to bio jedini izlaz iz finansijske krize, da li su njihovi glasači zaista promenili mišljenje ili su čuli vapaj evropskih lidera koji su pozivali na intervenciju? Teško. Za samo nekoliko dana ovaj zakon je od početnih 700 milijardi dolara uključio i dodatnih 112 milijardi raznih beneficija odnosno ciljanih poreskih olakšica. Evo najinteresantnijih primera:
- Proizvođači drvenih strela za decu, dva miliona
- Vlasnici staza za auto-trke, 100 miliona
- Industrija za proizvodnju ruma u Portoriku, 192 miliona
- Producenti koji svoje filmove snimaju u SAD, 478 miliona
- Kompanije koje posluju u Američkoj Samoi, 33 miliona
U novih 112 milijardi nije uključen i poseban zakon kojim se američkim proizvođačima automobila daje 25 milijardi dolara finansijske pomoći, koji je takođe usvojen ovih dana bez mnogo pompe. Jednostavno, dok je javnost bila zaokupljena cifrom od 700 milijardi, sitniš od 25 milijardi je prošao neopaženo.
Američki Kongres je za samo četiri dana promenio svoju originalnu odluku, jer je zakon promenjen dovoljno da odobrovolji šezdesetak kongresmena. Prvi predlog Bele kuće pre dve nedelje je imao samo tri strane, pred prvo glasanje u ponedeljak predlog zakona je već imao 102 stranice, da bi konačna usvojena verzija zakona prošlog petka imala 451 stranu. Dve trećine stavki se odnosi na zadovoljavanje specijalnih interesa koji nemaju apsolutno ništa sa trenutnom finansijskom krizom. To se zove kompromis.
Najveća posledica ove odluke nije 700 milijardi dolara garancija poreskih obveznika, već uvođenje lošeg presedana, odnosno stvaranje problema moralnog hazarda. Američka vlada je poslala signal investitorima da je u redu da se rizikuje, jer će potencijalne gubitke pokrivati poreski obveznici.
Mnoštvo nezavisnih američkih stručnjaka, medju kojima je i J. Stiglitz, smatraju da je 700 milijardi nedeovoljno, jer banke prikrivaju dobar deo truleži. Po njihovom mišljenju, račun će da poraste na 1.500 do 2.000 milijardi dolara za pomoć američkim bankama koje su zbog pogrešnih odluka i prevara razbacale poverene im pare.
Eh, kad smo već kod Štiglice, evo šta je čovek pisao 2002. godine (http://www.sbgo.com/Papers/fmp-v1i2.pdf) o održivosti tih Fannie Mae i Freddie Mac stvari. Zaključak počinje ovako:
QuoteThis analysis shows that, based on historical data, the
probability of a shock as severe as embodied in the riskbased
capital standard is substantially less than one in
500,000 – and may be smaller than one in three million.
Given the low probability of the stress test shock
occurring, and assuming that Fannie Mae and Freddie
Mac hold sufficient capital to withstand that shock, the
exposure of the government to the risk that the GSEs will
become insolvent appears quite low.
Given the extremely small probability of default by the
GSEs, the expected monetary costs of exposure to GSE
insolvency are relatively small — even given very large
levels of outstanding GSE debt and assuming that the
government would bear the costs of all GSE debt in the
case of insolvency. For example, if the probability of the
stress test conditions occurring is less than one in
500,000, and if the GSEs hold sufficient capital to
withstand the stress test, the implication is that the
expected cost to the government of providing an explicit
government guarantee on $1 trillion in GSE debt is just
$2 million.
Tikva je pukla i sad imamo ovakve izjave:
QuoteMarket economies work only when there is a system of accountability, but C.E.O.'s, investors, and creditors are walking away with billions, while American taxpayers are being asked to pick up the tab. (Freddie Mac's chairman, Richard Syron, earned $14.5 million in 2007. Fannie Mae's C.E.O., Daniel Mudd, earned $14.2 million that same year.) We're looking at a new form of public-private partnership, one in which the public shoulders all the risk, and the private sector gets all the profit. While the Bush administration preaches responsibility, the words are addressed only to the less well-off. The administration talks about the impact of "moral hazard" on the poor "speculator" who borrowed money and bought a house beyond his ability to pay. But moral hazard somehow isn't an issue when it comes to the high-stakes speculators in corporate boardrooms.
Ovaj drugi Stiglicov citat bi potpisali i mnogi ekonomisti "tržišnog fundamentalizma", ali razlika je u tome što bi oni lepo pustili niz vodu sve te korporativne korisnike sa moralnim hazardom, a ne da ih spašavaju...
Juče izašlo u novinama da su direktori propale firme AIG, kojoj je američka vlada dala 85 milijardi narodnog novca pre deset dana, odmah po prijemu novca otišli na višednevni "seminar" u luksuzno letovalište i hotel sa 5 zvezdica, gde prenoćište košta hiljadu dolara. Za nekoliko dana, oni su potrošili pola miliona dolara na šampanj, kavijar, masažu, kurve, automobile i avione.
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Ne volim citate. Oni ništa ne govore o onome koji citira, osim da nema svoj stav. Evo, ja ću da vas informišem:
1. Moj prijatelj neće sa sinom ići ove jeseni da obiđe majku u SAD. Banka u kojoj drži svoju ušteđevinu ograničila je povlačenje uloga na nivo iznosa njene penzije.
2. Naš put u SAD je "na kratko" odložen, jer je jedna od banki gde moji drže novac počela da zahteva povraćaj kredita i interesa, tako da moraju da aktiviraju novac u nekoj drugoj banci, pa će im trebati "malo vremena".
3. Dow Jones indeks je i danas bio u padu i završio sa 9255. Dobro se sećam da su toliko imali neposredno pred bombardovanje Beograda.
Quote from: "Cornelius"Juče izašlo u novinama da su direktori propale firme AIG, kojoj je američka vlada dala 85 milijardi narodnog novca pre deset dana, odmah po prijemu novca otišli na višednevni "seminar" u luksuzno letovalište i hotel sa 5 zvezdica, gde prenoćište košta hiljadu dolara. Za nekoliko dana, oni su potrošili pola miliona dolara na šampanj, kavijar, masažu, kurve, automobile i avione.
Znači, upravo to!
Quote from: "Dry-Na-Nord"Quote from: "Cornelius"Juče izašlo u novinama da su direktori propale firme AIG, kojoj je američka vlada dala 85 milijardi narodnog novca pre deset dana, odmah po prijemu novca otišli na višednevni "seminar" u luksuzno letovalište i hotel sa 5 zvezdica, gde prenoćište košta hiljadu dolara. Za nekoliko dana, oni su potrošili pola miliona dolara na šampanj, kavijar, masažu, kurve, automobile i avione.
Znači, upravo to!
Covece, pa oni uvode socijalizam!!!
To su i ovde radile "jagnjece brigade", godinama.
Hm, rade i sada....
Ma ne, ne razumete, to oni potpomažu cirkulaciju novca preko petozvezdičnih hotela! Nije bitno što narod jede gov.. važno je da se obrće kapital...
Onaj isti AIG, gore citiran, već je puko svih 85 milijardi, pa su počeli da vuku državu za rukav (država je vlasnik 80 odsto preduzeća) i da traže još love. Država će im dati još 38 milijardi. Sasvim logično. kad su skrljali prvih 85 milijardi, sad sve ostale milijarde idu same od sebe. Što mi reče jedan bankar u Njujorku - Kad pozajmite 10 hiljada dolara od banke i ne možete da ih vratite, to je vaš problem. Ali, kad pozajmite 10 miliona dolara i ne možete da ih vratite, to nije vaš problem, nego problem banke.
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Dow Jones je danas ispod 8600! To znači da je privreda za godinu dana riknula za oko 40%. To ni Sloba nije mogao da postigne.
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Quote from: "scallop"Dow Jones je danas ispod 8600! To znači da je privreda za godinu dana riknula za oko 40%. To ni Sloba nije mogao da postigne.
Ma, pusti ti to, postizao je sloba mnogo bolje rezultate u unistavanju privrede i svega ostalog, to ni Bokasi nije polazilo za rukom u tolikoj meri.
Opet, ne treba zaboraviti, u SAD je izborna godina, tada se uvek napravi malo "turbulencije", oni se iz takvih sranja izvlace mnogo elegantnije od, recimo, nas i slicne buranije.
U ovom trenutku, jebe ih to sto nemaju "prihvatljivo zariste", prihvatljivo u smislu da mogu malo da pucaju, a da ne polome zube vise nego sto je potrebno. Napravice oni to, do proleca, i eto skoka Dow Jones-a...
Sve ovo što se dešava u USA je samo početak jedne od cikličnih kriza koje pogađaju kapitalizam kao sistem.
Nekad je uzrok krize velika potrošnja, nekad mala , ali uvek je glavni uzrok sam sistem koji ne može bez špekulacija. Deblji kraj kao i uvek izvuku mali. :evil:
Quote from: "akhnaton"Sve ovo što se dešava u USA je samo početak jedne od cikličnih kriza koje pogađaju kapitalizam kao sistem.
Nekad je uzrok krize velika potrošnja, nekad mala , ali uvek je glavni uzrok sam sistem koji ne može bez špekulacija. Deblji kraj kao i uvek izvuku mali. :evil:
Vec vidjeno. Mnogo puta
Quote from: "akhnaton"Sve ovo što se dešava u USA je samo početak jedne od cikličnih kriza koje pogađaju kapitalizam kao sistem.
Zaboravio si da dodas da je u pitanju i posledica reganizma. Po ondasnjim pravilima se igra jos uvek - drzava skoro da i ne uzima ucesce na trzistu finansijskih proizvoda i usluga, racunajuci da se trziste prirodno regulise samo od sebe. To je dovelo do naglog razvoja tehnologije i privrede, ali i do naglog razvoja svake vrste razbojnistva i pljacke. Danas, kada je ciklus u padu, nije dovoljno samo stisnuti dupe, nego je neophodno i promeniti pravila, zavrsiti sa reganizmom i tacerizmom. Neophodne su regulacije i smena svih finansijskih mafijasa koji su doveli do krize, pa nastavili da otimaju pare. U protivnom, doci ce do opsteg sloma.
Quote from: "Cornelius"Quote from: "akhnaton"Sve ovo što se dešava u USA je samo početak jedne od cikličnih kriza koje pogađaju kapitalizam kao sistem.
Zaboravio si da dodas da je u pitanju i posledica reganizma. Po ondasnjim pravilima se igra jos uvek - drzava skoro da i ne uzima ucesce na trzistu finansijskih proizvoda i usluga, racunajuci da se trziste prirodno regulise samo od sebe. To je dovelo do naglog razvoja tehnologije i privrede, ali i do naglog razvoja svake vrste razbojnistva i pljacke. Danas, kada je ciklus u padu, nije dovoljno samo stisnuti dupe, nego je neophodno i promeniti pravila, zavrsiti sa reganizmom i tacerizmom. Neophodne su regulacije i smena svih finansijskih mafijasa koji su doveli do krize, pa nastavili da otimaju pare. U protivnom, doci ce do opsteg sloma.
Nisam zaboravio. Regano-Tačerski monetarizam je i doveo do ovoga. Opšti slom nam ne gine jer ovi ovde u srbiji i ne rade ništa drugo nego uvode gore pomenuti.
Posle skandala nacionalizovane američke firme AIG, evo i evropskih hedonista. Belgijska banka Fortis, tek što je izbegla bankrot, zahvaljujući milijardama koje su ubrizgali belgijski i francuski poreski obveznici, organizovala je "kulinarski dogadjaj" u restoranu "Louis XV" u Monaku, jednom od najskupljih restorana Evrope. Ceh za 50 zvanica je bio 150.000 evra.
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Ovo meni liči na indisku priču o "košulji srećnog čoveka". Finansijski giganti crkavaju (još nisu počeli da skaču kroz prozore, jer među njima časti više nema), a u Somaliji i Eritreji sve sami srećni ljudi - nemaju ni košulji. S obzirom na našu konkurentnost u svetu (napredovali smo na 85-to mesto), treba samo čvrsto da držimo gaće.
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WASHINGTON—In a nationally televised address to the American people Wednesday night, President Bush called upon every man, woman, and child to spiral uncontrollably downward into complete and utter panic.
President Bush addresses the nation shortly before shaving his head and soaking the Oval Office in his own urine.
Speaking from the Oval Office, Bush assured citizens that in these times of great uncertainty, the best and only course of action is to come under the throes of a sudden, overwhelming fear marked by hysterical or irrational behavior.
"My fellow Americans, the time for running aimlessly through streets while shrieking and waving our arms above our heads is now," Bush said. "I understand that many of you are worried about your economic future and our situation overseas, and you have every right to be. Yet there is only one thing we as a nation can do in times like these: give up all hope and devolve into a lawless, post-apocalyptic, every-man-for-himself society."
"For those of you who have remained resolute in your belief that things will turn around eventually, I urge you to close your eyes, take shallow rapid breaths, and begin freaking out immediately," Bush added. "At this point, anyone who isn't scared to death needs to wake the fuck up—because we're screwed here."
The Department of Homeland Security's website provides information for Americans not currently losing their shit.
The president then picked up the telephone from his desk and hurled it through the Oval Office window.
During the address, Bush laid out a historic five-point plan for panic that he hopes will help the American people fall apart as quickly as possible. The plan—which many are calling Bush's most well-thought-out proposal to date—calls for citizens to abandon their daily routines entirely, and engage in a weeklong period of bloodcurdling screaming, arm flailing, dry heaving, and gnawing on one's fingers while rocking back and forth in alternating bouts of maniacal laughter and gentle sobbing.
Under the new bill, Americans are also advised to withdraw all their money from U.S. banks and the stock market, place it in a Maxwell House coffee tin, and bury it in a safe place in their backyard. In addition, Bush has urged the legalization of Americans trampling one another in a mad rush to compete for the nation's dwindling resources, and proposed allocating $3 billion toward a program that would give every citizen a gun and a bottle of 140-proof whiskey.
The final part of the plan calls for the immediate release of all convicted felons and death-row inmates from the nation's prisons.
Immediately after Congress approves his plan, the president said he will order multiple B-2 stealth bombers to fly over America's cities at low altitude. The resulting sonic boom, Bush said, will set off all car alarms and cause all babies to cry uncontrollably, which he believes will promote a real sense of chaos throughout the nation. In addition, Bush intends to release 50 live cobras into the Senate chamber.
"I realize this is a difficult vote for members of Congress, but at this critical time in our nation's history, it is imperative that we not sit back and pretend like everything is fine, because everything's not fine, it's just not," Bush said. "Even if Congress fails to act, I still intend to do what is right and lead this country into mass hysteria by acting outside the framework of the U.S. Constitution, overriding the entire democratic process, and setting the Lincoln Memorial on fire."
Early reactions on Capitol Hill to Bush's call for panic have thus far been positive. Leading House Republicans and Democrats said they appreciate the president's candor, and will encourage their constituents to comply with Bush's request to "find something and smash it with all of their strength."
"For most of the day tomorrow, I intend to do my part by remaining in my boarded-up home and getting worked up about our standing in the world," Pacoima, CA resident Harold Miller said. "And then at night, I plan to lie awake in my bed and be scared to death about the loss of my job, pension, and retirement fund. Then I plan to run out into the streets in my bathrobe and shout that the End of Days is coming."
Bush told Americans that if at any point they catch themselves feeling even slightly at ease, they should remind themselves that, in the end, everything is going to be completely fucked.
:!: :D
Quote from: "Cornelius"Posle skandala nacionalizovane američke firme AIG, evo i evropskih hedonista. Belgijska banka Fortis, tek što je izbegla bankrot, zahvaljujući milijardama koje su ubrizgali belgijski i francuski poreski obveznici, organizovala je "kulinarski dogadjaj" u restoranu "Louis XV" u Monaku, jednom od najskupljih restorana Evrope. Ceh za 50 zvanica je bio 150.000 evra.
xsex xfuck5
Da se dopunim. Dva dana posle Fortisa, u istoj kafani, istu stvar je priredila i druga bankrot banka - Dexia. Njih je isto država spasila narodnim parama (nacionalizovala). Oni su u kafani Alaina Ducassa ostavili 200.000 evra.
Jebote, oću ja da budem nacionalizovan, pa da svakog dana mogu da jedem kod Ducassa i Roubuchona. xukliam
Quote from: "Cornelius"Da se dopunim. Dva dana posle Fortisa, u istoj kafani, istu stvar je priredila i druga bankrot banka - Dexia. Njih je isto država spasila narodnim parama (nacionalizovala). Oni su u kafani Alaina Ducassa ostavili 200.000 evra.
nije da sumLJam or anything, al ima li bre negde u javnosti, u vestima ovo - zna li narod za te detalje, i kako reaguje - ili ih tičice došaptavaju samo korneliju, koji ih u potaji deli s nama ovde, daleko od razuzdane gomile?
Quote from: "Ghoul"zna li narod za te detalje, i kako reaguje - ili ih tičice došaptavaju samo korneliju?
Cornelius je narod. Znači, ako ja znam, onda je dostupno i drugima, jer je obnarodovano. Nije tu problem. Problem je u nemoći koju oseća narod spram političara, bankara i finansijera. Već deset godina ovde se priča kako će se zakonski zabraniti da direktor preduzeća odvede firmu u propast, a onda prilikom napuštanja preduzeća da dobiju bonus koji obično predstavlja 150 do 300 godina prosečne plate. I nikada se ništa nije uradilo. Mislim da ne moram da ti objašnjavam zašto.
Zato, narod ništa i ne kaže, jer zna da pas laje, a karavan prolazi.
konkretno, pitam pišu li novine o ovome, i kako i koliko, ili se samo šuška nezvanično.
Naravno da pišu novine o tome, ali niko ništa ne kaže, jer su naviknuti da im oni odozgo gule kožu sa ledja. Sistemska greška.
U Indiji se desila neprilika jednom direktoru mešovite firme, indijsko-italijanske. Pre mesec dana je morao da otpusti 150 radnika, jer su italijanski finansijeri pronašli jeftinije roblje. Otpušteni, iznervirani ćutanjem direkcije, izlome vrata, uhvate direktora i ubiju ga metalnim štanglama. Posle ih pohapse, Italijani stave novog direktore i uskoro će da otpuste sve i da odu u drugu zemlju.
Chris Hedges: America's Political Cannibalism
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081013_americas_political_cannibalism/
Autor plaši Amerikance Slobom i bivšom Jugoslavijom rečima: "Video sam kako se ovo dešava u Jugoslaviji, plašim se da se isto sad dešava u SAD". Odnosi se na uspon nacionalista i nacionalne retorike u vreme ekonomskih kriza.
Evo, u tekstu na koji nas je mac uputio, piše i ovo:
"Look at Lehman Brothers CEO Richard Fuld. He walks away from his bankrupt investment house after pocketing $485 million."
Javno je izašlo, svi znamo da je baja uzeo pola milijarde dolara i da je firma bankrotirala - so what? Sve je legalno. On je imao legalan ugovor i niko neće ništa da uradi protiv njega.
A pocelo i podjebavanje :!:
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE49F0K720081016?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true
:D :D :D
Dow Jones i dalje srlja naniže. Sad je ispod 8300. To je izuzetno opasno. Amerika finansira svoje banke parama koje su već dužni svetu. Promena koju bi oni morali da načine je daleko iznad Obaminih potencijala. Evropa i Azija se suljaju naniže zato što su povezani istim monetarnim modelom.
Ne bih bio srećan nikakvim podjebavanjem, jer su oni spremni da povuku sve za sobom. Opasni su to igrači na sve ili ništa.
Izgleda da je svima stalo da dokažu da USA srlja u propast i kako im je drago zbog toga? A niko ne kaže da se sistem koji počiva na totalnoj eksploataciji svega, raspada jer je počeo da jede samog sebe. Kako taj sistem nema vidljivu alternativu,( ako u alternativu ne uračunamo opskurne klero-nacionalizme i ostale sisteme koji počivaju na privilegijama rukovodioca i slično, čitaj naci socijalizam SPS-a iz 90-ih...) onda je ceo svet u veoma kriznoj i opasnoj situaciji. Amerika ima samo jednu alternativu kojom može da reši svoj problem, a to je rat. I to ne rat lokalnih razmera nego svetski :evil:
Quote from: "akhnaton"Amerika ima samo jednu alternativu kojom može da reši svoj problem, a to je rat. I to ne rat lokalnih razmera nego svetski :evil:
Ma, njih već iračko-avganistanski rat košta preko hiljadu i trista milijardi dolara. Odakle im pare za još neki rat?
Quote from: "Cornelius"Quote from: "akhnaton"Amerika ima samo jednu alternativu kojom može da reši svoj problem, a to je rat. I to ne rat lokalnih razmera nego svetski :evil:
Ma, njih već iračko-avganistanski rat košta preko hiljadu i trista milijardi dolara. Odakle im pare za još neki rat?
Pa zato će i da ratuju. Za pare i resurse. 8)
3. oktobra, tri tradera francuske banke Caisses d'Epargne ulažu milijardu evra (možda i više) na pretpostavku da će francuska berza da počne da raste. Nesrećom, 6. oktobra berza se otvara i kreće u istorijsku rupu - pad od skoro 10 odsto. Traderi se konsultuju sa hijerarhijom i pokušavaju da prodaju pozicije, ali niko neće da ih kupi. Uspevaju da ih prodaju tek 8. oktobra, ali im ostaje gubitak od 640 miliona evra. Afera izbija na videlo i hijerarhija banke objašnjava da je u pitanju "nezgoda na putu". Potom, tri tradera i dva šefa bivaju suspendovani u iščekivanju kazne. Inače, kroz jednu od svojih podgrupa, CE je već dobila narodne pare za rekapitalizaciju. Ali... Kako rekoše naši strai - Bog dao, Bog i uzeo.
ta burza je meni tolika karina i sranje da ne mogu vjerovati kako ljudi to shvaćaju ozbiljno i ulazu tolike pare
priznajem samo rad... a burza mi je ravna kocki i ruletu--> ulazel iko pare a da ima 100% znanje o doticnoj firmi?
ulazel iko pare na ruletu a da zna 100% koji će broj ispast
:roll: banke dioničari
đavolja posla :x
Quote from: "Truba"ta burza je meni tolika karina i sranje da ne mogu vjerovati kako ljudi to shvaćaju ozbiljno i ulazu tolike pare
Objasnio bih ja to tebi, ali se plašim eksperata koji će to odmah demantovati.
Štednja u razvijenom, demokratskom svetu je zlo koje treba suzbiti. Trošiti, trošiti i samo trošiti... rekao je AntiLenjin. Kamate na štednju su smešne, a čini mi se da se štednja i oporezuje na godišnjem nivou. Svet je podešen tako da sve pare koje imaš potrošiš ili ulažeš u sistem koji živi od investiranja u sve i svašta očekujući profit. 70% reklama u SAD su načini kako da potrošiš pare i kako da ih pozajmiš i kasnije bezbroj puta refinansiraš. Sistem je takav da ti se ne isplati da otplaćuješ glavnicu zajma koji si uzeo za kuću, auto, nameštaj... Plaćaj uredno kamate i sve je u redu.
Jel' jasno za sada?
Banke naravno nemaju pare koje ti pozamljuju, već i oni zajme od jačih banaka ili investicionih fondova, koje ti finansiraš iz interesa koje plaćaš na sve što si pozajmio ili poseduješ. Oni kod kojih se osiguraš, reosiguravaju se kod jačih sistema osiguranja. Osiguravajuća društva nemaju pare, nemaju ih ni oni koji reosiguravaju i sve se zasniva na lovi koju ti otmu kroz kamate.
Jel' ti već bliže mozgu?
Oni koji vode te poslove uzimaju svoje bonuse i kupuju sladoled od 25.000$. Sve je kao kod pokojne Dafine Milanović ili u lancu Sv. Antuna. Dokle god raste broj onih koji će da se zaduže i plaćaju svoje kamate, postoje obrtna sredstva. Onoga trenutka kad se balon naduva do pucanja - on puca. Budući da zaduženi ne mogu više da pokrivaju svojim prilogom ciklus mora da stane. Male banke ne mogu da plaćaju velikim, mali investicioni fondovi velikim investicionim fondovim, osiguranja reosiguranju i kriza se generiše na vrhu piramide. Brzo zarađena lova mora da postane sporo zarađena lova ili imamo recesije kakve smo već imali.
Tu smo već kod pravih stvari. Kapishe?
Svi ti veliki poslovi startuju sa 5 do 10% uloga. Praktično džaba upravljaš proizvodnjom vitalnih dobara. To je deo berze koji se zove
commitments ili
futures. Ulozi u pravo da kupiš neku proizvodnju, ako pre toga preprodajom na berzi ne zaradiš par procenata. Onaj kod koga se na kraju nađe ugovor - mora da kupi proizvodnju. Da zaradi na njoj ili izgubi.
Sad postaje komplikovanije, zar ne?
Ako se srolja berza kapitala, odnosno, bankarsko-investicioni sistem, onda će da stanu proizvodnje širom sveta, robe će ostati neprodate, netransportovane do krajnjih kupaca. Oni koji su orali i kopali neće imati pare da plate interese i kamate na koje su se obavezali dok su mislili da sve ide kako treba. Na kraju, sve plaćaju oni koji su i uložili u čitav sistem. Ostaju bez posla, bez krova nad glavom (jedna od četiri nove kuće u SAD je zaplenjena).
A, sad, rešenje. To be or not to be?
Poslednju veliku recesiju je Ruzvelt rešio New Deal-om (primorao je najbogatije na projekte sa sporim povratkom kapitala), Hitler je odabrao autobahn-ove, a Staljin - gulage. Svako kako je znao i umeo. Trenutno pokušavaju sa podruštvljavanjem (jebote, otkad nisam upotrebio taj termin) propale imovine, koja nije ni postojala. Ćist socijalizam, bokca ti! Da li si znao da je i Nacionalni trezor u SAD u privatnim rukama? Ima da naštampaju 700 bil.$, pa ako ih dobro uvale, preživeće. EU računa na ulog od 2.000 bil. evra. Rusi će da uapse neke svoje milijardere. Azija ima da se batrga, jer su mnogo uložili u proizvodnju za SAD, ali njihovi radnici su ionako bedno plaćeni. Afrika se ne računa, oni su gladni, pa gladni.
Trubo, ne kockaj se. Kupuj zlato i dijamante.
ma ne kockam se mrzim burzu a na rulet ne idem više...
otkako je ova kriza počela ja sam halalio svoje novce ( ako ne razumijete pomirio sam se sa sudbinom da su propali ne zanimaju me više nek stoje na banci)
rekao sam roditeljima jebo narod zemlju i obitelj koju u 20 godina zadesi propast 2 sistema i propast stednji... para za stan nemamo dovoljno...
začudo u proteklih desetak dana sam počeo učestvovati u humanitarnim projektima (spasimo ovog spasimo onog donirajmo marku za izgradnju sirotišta i doma za starce)
očito da u nečemu lošem ima i dobrog...
samo mi žao što sam napiustio ultra left ving i postao sam obični socijaldemokrata baš sada kada se počinju nacionalizirati kompanije
samo me zanima oćel država nacionalitzirati našu veš mašinu ako nemam da olatim zadnju ratu
banke su za mene odavno đavolska posla... dionice također... fuj više mi se ne ulazi u banku a ne vjerujem bankomatima
lagano počinjem mrziti ameriku
začudo... nisam ih mrzio dok su ubijali po iraku i afganistanu i dok nisu reagovali za ruandu i darfur
a počinjem ih mrziti kada se mojih bijednih nekoliko hiljada eura možda našlo u krizi
koja sam ljudsjka gromada... mrzim sam sebe :x
ps. ne isplati se živjeti u ovom svijetu
Quote from: "Truba"ps. ne isplati se živjeti u ovom svijetu
Bre, Scaloppe, sta si to uradio?! Objasnio si coveku berzanski sistem i uveo ga u filozofsko pitanje - da li postoji zivot pre smrti.
evo šta kaže slavojko, a NIN prenosi:
ПРОМЕНЕ И КРИЗА НА ВОЛСТРИТУ: Класна борба у Вашингтону
На ироничан начин национализација банковног система је добра ствар ако би се спасао – капитализам! Социјализам је лош, али у случају да стабилизује и спаси капитализам, тада је добар
Нико не зна тачно шта ваља да се ради". Ову реченицу нарочито смо често чули последњих дана и то пре свега од стручњака за економију. А зашто? Јер су очекивања одавно постала део капиталистичке игре. Јер, како ће да се понашају тржишта не зависи само од тога колико поверења имају људи у државне акције спасавања. У далеко већој мери те мере зависе од тога колико поверења ће, по мишљењу државних интервенциониста, имати остали важни учесници и субјекти тржишне економије. И управо из тог разлога није могуће да се предвиди деловање споменутих мера на тржиште. Економиста Yон Мејнард Кјенз говорећи управо о феномену тржишта веома је добро описао тај проблем. Он је наиме упоредио берзу са такмичењем за најлепшу жену. Жири треба да лепотицу изабере из хрпе од стотина фотографија које су стигле на његову адресу. Победиће она чији избор одговара укусу највећег броја чланова жирија. "Овде није реч о томе да се изабере она коју сматрамо најлепшом, па чак ни да победи она која би одговарала просечном укусу. Овде имамо посла са трећом варијантом. Да ми треба да се потрудимо да предвидимо шта је то просечан укус и да се он на крају доиста и потврди као просечан укус". Или, да сада то применимо на финансијско тржиште: ми морамо да донесемо одлуке, а да немамо потребно знање. "Ми смо присиљени да живимо тако, као да смо слободни", како рече Џон Греј.
Следимо ли мисао нобеловца Yозефа Стиглица, примећујемо да међу економистима расте уверење да проблеми не могу да се реше тако што ће држава да преузме и стави под своју контролу "покварене кредите" (Баил-оут). Ипак "за политичаре је немогуће да у једној таквој кризи седе скрштених руку". Због тога ми мора да "се усрдно молимо, да ће план – који представља фаталну мешавину посебних, личних интереса, погрешних економских теорија и десне идеологије – ипак некако да функционише, или барем да неће да проузрокује сувише велике штете."
Стиглиц има право. Тржишна привреда живи од тога, колико њени учесници имају у њу поверења, и од тога, шта они верују, у којој мери и остали учесници верују. Када, дакле, дођемо у ситуацију да цео свет почиње да размишља и сумња, "како ће тржишта да реагују", тада одговор на ово питање зависи не од реалног утицаја државних мера, већ од тога да ли сама тржишта верују у ефикасност предузетих државних мера. Овде лежи разлог због чега чак и пакет мера за спасавање, који је са привредне тачке бесмислен, на концу би ипак могао да функционише.
Када нам непрестано причају колико је важно поверење и вера, тада се и ми сами морамо запитати у којој мери влада Сједињених Држава увећава опасност економске кризе, против које она сама најављује одлучну борбу. Реторичка сличност Бушовог говора после 11. септембра 2001. и његовог говора по избијању финансијске кризе у сваком случају не може а да се не примети. Утисак је да се има посла заправо са истим говором, а који је написан у две верзије. У оба случаја Буш описује опасност која прети америчком начину живота. У оба говора захтева да се делимично ставе ван закона америчке вредности као што су индивидуалне слободе и капитализам, како би се спасиле управо те вредности.
Притисак који лежи на леђима политичара "да нешто предузму, а не само да причају" подсећа на присилу из света магије. Можда ће тржиште да се понаша сасвим супротно од наших очекивања? Можда је држава превише интервенисала? Можда би држава требало да се сада повуче, да се опет дистанцира од слободног тржишта и да каже праву реч у правом тренутку. Има довољно ствари о којима би требало да размишљамо.
Рецимо, о овом случају: 15. јула 2008. републикански сенатор Yим Банинг критиковао је шефа америчке националне банке Бена Берненкеа: "Берненкеови предлози показују да социјализам у Америци цвета и одлично успева". Банинг је буквално рекао: "Сада шеф америчке националне банке жели да се докаже као регулатор ризика финансијског система. При томе сама Федерална банка представља ризик у новчаном систему. Да се сада Федералној банци да већа моћ личи ми на следећу ситуацију: момак вам, док игра на улици бејзбол, разбије прозор палицом. И у тој ситуацији једини излаз који ви видите је да том момку дате још већу бејзбол палицу." Банинг је 23. септембра 2008. још жешће напао политику америчке владе рекавши да је преузимање "покварених" кредита "неамерички начин решавања кризе".
И неолиберали интервенишу на тржишту, само што не желе да признају. Банинг је био први, који је у име републиканског револта јавно изнео противљење плану спасавања финансијског система, какав је предложила америчка администрација. При томе је интересантно да се републикански отпор према мерама владе формулише језиком "класне борбе": Волстрит (симбол капитала, богатог света; прим. прев.) против Мејнстрита (симбол главне улице, потрошачког друштва, дакле, робних кућа, где обичан свет ради и троши паре; прим. прев.). Али, због чега ми треба да помогнемо онима који су одговорни за проблем, дакле Волстриту, а са друге стране од просечног потрошача у Мејнстриту, који има хипотекарне дугове, тражимо да он сноси цео терет државних мера спасавања система финансија? Зар овде немамо јасан пример за то што економисти зову "субјективни ризик"? Дакле, имамо посла са "ризиком да се неко неморално понаша, јер таквога сада штити осигурање или законодавац од могућег губитка". И какве су последице по цео систем? Неће ли се велике банке штитити од евентуалних великих губитака, а истовремено, дозвољено им је да задрже добит? Не чуди да и левичарски режисер Мајкл Мур пакет мера за спасавања финансијског система осуђује као највећу пљачку века. И имамо ситуацију да по том питању исто мисле левица и републиканци. Над овом чињеницом ваља да се замислимо.
Оно што уједињује левицу и десницу јесте презир према великим шпекулантима и менеyерима концерна, који профитирају од рискантних одлука. Но, ако шпекуланти и менеyери донесу погрешну одлуку, тада су они осигурани од свих непријатности и то уз помоћ "златних падобрана". Да се подсетимо банкрота енергетског дива Енрон јануара 2002. Ово може да послужи као ироничан коментар у погледу појма "ризично друштво". Хиљаде запослених, који су изгубили посао и уштеђевину, без сумње су били изложени ризику. При том, они заправо и нису имали неки велики избор. За те људи ризик је синоним за слепу, неизбежну судбину. За оне друге – који представљају мањину и који су имали преглед над читавим пословањем, па према томе и знали за ризик, а такође су имали могућност да правовремено реагују на развој пословања – ја овде говорим о водећим менеyерима Енрона, они су сопствени ризик свели на минимум, јер су своје акције и опције добро и благовремено уновчили, и то пре него што је фирма, коју су они сами водили, банкротирала. Разуме се да је тачно да ми живимо у друштву које врви од рискантних одлука. Само има једна разлика: менеyер са Волстрита има избор, јер доноси одлуке. Са друге стране, просечан свет који има хипотеке, мора да се помири са чињеницом да улази у ризик, а да нема избор.
Да ли владин план спасавања финансијског система заиста представља "социјалистичку" меру, односно, да ли тиме ступа на снагу државни социјализам у Сједињеним Државама? Ако је то тачно, онда је нешто ипак необично: "социјалистички" корак, чији се главни циљ не састоји у томе да се помогне сиромашнима, већ богатима. Ове мере, дакле, не помажу онима који новац посуђују, него онима који им посуђују. На један ироничан начин национализација банковног система била би добра ствар, наиме, како би се спасао – капитализам! Социјализам је лош, но у случају да он стабилизује и спаси капитализам тада је добар. Овде не смемо да изгубимо из вида "субјективни ризик". Он увек погађа "мале људе", ситне потрошаче. А шта ако је "субјективни ризик" уграђен у основне структуре капитализма?
Чињеница је да животни стандард Мејнстрита зависи од просперитета Волстрита. Једно не може да се одели од другог. Републикански популисти протестују против државне помоћи и на основу правилних анализа и ваљаних разлога доносе лоше одлуке. Са друге стране, заговорници државне интервенције у циљу спасавања система финансија нуде нам погрешне анализе, али доносе правилне одлуке. То значи: док је нешто добро за Волстрит, за крупан капитал, не мора да је истовремено добро и за Мејнстрит, за малог потрошача. Но, Мејнстрит не може да успева и напредује кад је Волстрит слаб. Овде имамо посла са асиметријом и она пре самог почетка игре даје предност Волстриту.
Ваља да се присетимо конзервативног, односно неолибералног аргумента ("Trickle-down-Argument") чији смисао лежи у противљењу егалитарној расподели богатства. Аргумент гласи: уместо да сиромашне чинимо богатијим, лева политика расподеле богатства доноси само то да богатији постају сиромашнији. Овај аргуменат, међутим, никако није усмерен против државне интервенције у области привреде. Напротив. Конзервативна, односно неолиберална елита има веома јасну слику на који начин држава треба да интервенише у економију. Она тврди: премда ми сви желимо да сиромашнима буде боље веома је контрапродуктивно да се њима помаже директно, јер они не чине продуктиван елеменат привреде. Уместо тога споменута елита предлаже да држава интервенцијом помаже богатима, како би могли да постану још богатији, а део добити тада ће да стигне и до сиромашних. То би дакле значило: Волстрит, крупан капитал мора да добије довољне количине новца, а он ће онда део те суме да проследи до Мејнстрита, до ситног потрошача и тиме ће да се помогне радницима и људима који не могу да отплате дугове за куће.
У логици капитализма у овој аргументацији лежи и зрно истине, јер банкрот Волстрита би веома болно погодио и обичног човека. Због тога пакет мера владе није стајао у контрадикцији са конзервативном и неолибералном елитом, када се и већина демократа изјаснила за план са циљем да се помогне Волстриту.
Звучи необично, но чињеница јесте да опсежне државне интервенције у привреди не представљају ништа ново. Сама финансијска криза јесте последица оваквих државних интервенција. Године 2001. имали смо кризу због плаћања преко Интернета. Тада се влада Сједињених Држава одлучила да олакша доделу кредита како би стимулисала раст на тржишту некретнина. А ако погледамо ствари на глобалном пољу видимо да је испреплетеност привредних односа у свету последица политичких одлука.
Један мали пример: пре неколико година преко телевизије ЦНН могли смо да видимо репортажу о држави Мали. Тема: како у овој афричкој земљи у стварности изгледа "слободно тржиште"? Привреда Малија почива на два ступа: памук на југу земље и сточарство на северу. Обе гране налазе се у кризи, јер Запад крши сопствена правила. Оно што је забрањено у САД и ЕУ, то се намеће земљама Трећег света. Мали производи памук који се одликује најбољим квалитетом. Ипак, Мали не може да конкурише америчком памуку, јер су субвенције америчке владе за произвођаче памука у Америци, за фармере, веће од целокупног буyета државе Мали. Где су овде заговорници слободног тржишта?
Све говори, да не постоји неутрално тржиште. Политичке одлуке непрестано регулишу и координирају догађаје на тржишту. Зато право питање не гласи: "Државна интервенција – да или не?", већ: "Која врста државних интервенција?" У уморним демократијама права политика састоји се у расправи, да се дефинишу основне "неполитичке" координате нашег живота. Све централне политичке теме су на известан начин непартијске, јер додирују битно питање: Како ми хоћемо да живимо? Шта треба да буде "наша земља"? Управо и сама расправа око америчког програма и пружања помоћи представља у овом смислу "праву" политику. Она се врти око одлука у вези битних црта друштвеног и привредног живота. У ту сврху она се чак служи и духом класне борбе. Објективно мишљење експерата, који би само чекали да се њихова анализа примени у пракси, не постоји. Свако мора да се одлучи за једну страну.
Сенатор Мекејн је 24. септембра 2008. прекинуо изборну кампању и вратио се у Вашингтон. Тада је изјавио да сваки политичар мора данас да гледа изнад и преко уских страначких интереса и граница. Да ли ово значи да је политичар заиста спреман да одбаци границе партијске политике и да се свесрдно позабави са проблемом који се тиче свих, а не само "нас", који стојимо у супротности са "онима тамо"? Сигурно то није случај. Јер политика и није друго него борба да се дефинише овај "неутралан" терен. И зато предлог Мекејна, да премости партијске границе, представља чисту страначку политику и није ништа до политичка поза.
Барак Обама има дакле право када је одбио захтев Мекејна, да одгоде први телевизијски двобој. Обама је то поткрепио исправним аргументом да управо настала финансијска криза чини неопходно потребним да дође до политичке дебате два кандидата, јер они, очигледно, имају различите рецепте за решење проблема. Сетимо се: године 1966. Бил Клинтон је победио на изборима са мотом: "Битна је привреда, глупане". Ове изборе демократе могу да добију само ако им пође за руком да народу продају паролу: "Битна је политичка економија, глупане". САД не треба мање, већ више политике.
Мото конзервативаца гласи: "Не треба да размишљате, већ да слушате!" Велики Имануел Кант није томе супротставио мисао: "Немојте да будете послушни, него размишљајте сопственом главом!" Уместо тога Кант је казао: "Послушајте, па ипак наставите да мислите!". План постоји да се банке спасе од банкрота. Ако ми тај план истовремено осећамо као уцену тада треба да нам је једна ствар јасна да је наиме та уцена веома ефикасна. Из тог разлога ваља да се супротставимо популистичком искушењу, односно, да се потпуно препустимо нашем оправданом незадовољству. Уместо тога требало би наш бес да претворимо у хладну решеност и да размишљамо о томе у коме ми друштву заправо живимо у коме је, ето, могућа једна таква уцена.
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Ma pogledajte lepo Zeitgeist 2 ima dobro objasnjeno kako funkcionise americki monetarijanizam.
Quote from: "Cornelius"Quote from: "Truba"ps. ne isplati se živjeti u ovom svijetu
Bre, Scaloppe, sta si to uradio?! Objasnio si coveku berzanski sistem i uveo ga u filozofsko pitanje - da li postoji zivot pre smrti.
ma joj moj zakljucak nema veze s njegovim pisanjem
to ja otprije tako razmisljam :idea:
gledam neki dan prilog o ljudima koji s djecom spavaju u šatorima i autima zbog ove krize izgubiše kuće i rate s 900 dolara se popeše na 1400
to su sve odron zanimacije ljudi (bauštelac, utovarivač, frizer) i njima su dali kredite od 200000 kako bi i oni mogli imati kucetine... i sada ih istjeruju na ulicu u kuce prodaju u pol cijene
nacija tako fasnicirana bogom biblijom i religijom ne pokazuje ni trunke samilosti... pa sačekatje malo mamu vam reko je buš biće bolje uskoro možda će moći otplatiti kredit nabijem vas sve na osunećeni biblijski penis :x :x :x
odo vozat biciklo dizajnirano u kaliforniji a napravljeno u kini koje je kostalo 300 eura :x
Zbog čega bi četvoročlanoj porodici (tata, mama, dvoje krasne dečice) bila neophodna kućetina? Zato što je i njihovi poznanici imaju?
pa to je sva poanta problema
zajebavas se do 18. ne ucis uzivas u izvanbracnom sexu droga i sve ostalo
dok neko se muci s knjigama
i onda fino os da imas kucu ko on
koju ti dopusti drzava kreditom koji ne mos vracati
treba biti skroman i biti covjek a ne zivotinja svinja koja samo prozdire
Quote from: "angel011"Zbog čega bi četvoročlanoj porodici (tata, mama, dvoje krasne dečice) bila neophodna kućetina? Zato što je i njihovi poznanici imaju?
Pa naravno. Postavi to pitanje iz srpske perspektive:
Zbog čega bi mladom bračnom paru bila neophodna ultra-kič šatorska svada sa 250 zvanica i tulumom od 3 dana i noći? Zato što su je i njihovi poznanici/familija imali?
Quote from: "mafija_x"Ma pogledajte lepo Zeitgeist 2 ima dobro objasnjeno kako funkcionise americki monetarijanizam.
Ima i Zeitgeist 1. Upozoravam: iako smo u govnima, treba i dalje gledati u zvezde!
Quote from: "Usul"Quote from: "angel011"Zbog čega bi četvoročlanoj porodici (tata, mama, dvoje krasne dečice) bila neophodna kućetina? Zato što je i njihovi poznanici imaju?
Pa naravno. Postavi to pitanje iz srpske perspektive:
Zbog čega bi mladom bračnom paru bila neophodna ultra-kič šatorska svada sa 250 zvanica i tulumom od 3 dana i noći? Zato što su je i njihovi poznanici/familija imali?
Tako nešto. Jedna moja prijateljica je imala znatno skuplje i kičastije venčanje nego što je želela jer je mladoženja zapeo da se venča slično kao i njegov kum (a kum je vlasnik Ktitora, fabrike nameštaja, dok je mladoženja bio komercijalista-terenac sa platom, tada, od 350 eura).
Quote from: "scallop"Upozoravam: iako smo u govnima, treba i dalje gledati u zvezde!
Uh, ovo tako podseća na Klarkovog "Gleda- Mesec"... Je'l to znači da skoro stiže monolit da nas civilizuje?
Quote from: "Usul"Quote from: "angel011"Zbog čega bi četvoročlanoj porodici (tata, mama, dvoje krasne dečice) bila neophodna kućetina? Zato što je i njihovi poznanici imaju?
Pa naravno. Postavi to pitanje iz srpske perspektive:
Zbog čega bi mladom bračnom paru bila neophodna ultra-kič šatorska svada sa 250 zvanica i tulumom od 3 dana i noći? Zato što su je i njihovi poznanici/familija imali?
Pa iz istog razloga. Da se pokažu!!! Da svi vide da su i oni "uspeli", a što posle grcaju.... :evil:
Quote from: "Usul"Uh, ovo tako podseća na Klarkovog "Gleda- Mesec"... Je'l to znači da skoro stiže monolit da nas civilizuje?
Ma šta Monolit, stiže Spin!
Nego, jedna stvar sa ovom ekonomijom mi malo smeta. Američke banke uzmu pare od svetskih banaka i daju ih svojim građanima, koji posle nemaju para da otplate dug. A gde je tu glavnica? Šta građevinari rade sa hrpom para koje su dobili za izgradnju tih silnih kućerina?
Quote from: "mac"Nego, jedna stvar sa ovom ekonomijom mi malo smeta. Američke banke uzmu pare od svetskih banaka i daju ih svojim građanima, koji posle nemaju para da otplate dug. A gde je tu glavnica? Šta građevinari rade sa hrpom para koje su dobili za izgradnju tih silnih kućerina?
Nema "Gleda...Mesec" ima "Čita...gore".
I građevinari su uzeli kredit da kupe plac, dozvolu, materijal, mašine... A pare postoje ako svi plaćaju kamate. Ako ne plaćaju, onda puca sa vrha. Naravno, pokojna Dafina je uzela svoj deo, oni koji su joj dozvolili da to radi su uzeli svoj deo...
Nemoj sad da pitaš šta rade sa hrpom love oni koji proizvode građevinske materijale i mašine!
Pazi dijalog:
"Koliko vredi sve ono što imaš?"
"Oko dva i po miliona evra."
"A, koliki su ti krediti?"
"Četiri i po miliona evra."
"Kako ćeš da vratiš te dugove?"
"Iz obrta mojih firmi."
A, БЛЛЛЛ?
Quote from: "scallop"Quote from: "mac"Nego, jedna stvar sa ovom ekonomijom mi malo smeta. Američke banke uzmu pare od svetskih banaka i daju ih svojim građanima, koji posle nemaju para da otplate dug. A gde je tu glavnica? Šta građevinari rade sa hrpom para koje su dobili za izgradnju tih silnih kućerina?
Nema "Gleda...Mesec" ima "Čita...gore".
I građevinari su uzeli kredit da kupe plac, dozvolu, materijal, mašine... A pare postoje ako svi plaćaju kamate. Ako ne plaćaju, onda puca sa vrha. Naravno, pokojna Dafina je uzela svoj deo, oni koji su joj dozvolili da to radi su uzeli svoj deo...
Nemoj sad da pitaš šta rade sa hrpom love oni koji proizvode građevinske materijale i mašine!
Pazi dijalog:
"Koliko vredi sve ono što imaš?"
"Oko dva i po miliona evra."
"A, koliki su ti krediti?"
"Četiri i po miliona evra."
"Kako ćeš da vratiš te dugove?"
"Iz obrta mojih firmi."
A, БЛЛЛЛ?
A i to što ima ne vredi ni toliko. :?
pa tako bih i ja mogo biti biznismen
i vozat auto od 100000 eura
:roll:
nabijem ih sve :cry:
Quote from: "Truba"pa tako bih i ja mogo biti biznismen
i vozat auto od 100000 eura
Vozi, Miško!
Quote from: "Truba"pa tako bih i ja mogo biti biznismen
i vozat auto od 100000 eura
Kao sto znas, biznismeni rade sa novcem, najcesce, tudjim. Vrlo je uobicajeno da preduzece, prilikom rada, angazuje vece sume novca nego sto poseduje, jer je to jedini nacin da se ide napred. Vrlo je cesto da preduzeca u svakom trenutku imaju neke kredite, jer se dosta puta to vise isplati. Rade sa tudjim novcem, placaju kamatu, a zarada pokriva sve troskove.
Tako oni i kupuju automobile od 100 000 evra. Skoro svi Porse Kajen, u Francuskoj, kupljeni su na ime preduzeca i njihova cena ulazi u troskove preduzeca, sto vlasniku omogucava da drzavi placa manji porez na zaradu.
Ma meni se čini da tu ipak nešto smrdi. Sav taj novac koji prelazi iz ruke u ruku nije virtuelan nego stvaran. U jednog trenutku u prošlosti pare su bile u banci, a danas su u nečijim rukama. Proizvodnja je možda stala, kao i ekonomija, ali pare mora da su još uvek tu negde.
Danas je virtelno stvarno. Nikada u proslosti pare nisu bile u banci. Bile su one "u banci" na papiru (virtuelno), a u stvarnosti su cirkulisali na isti nacin kao i danas. Bivale su ulagan e na razne nacine i u razne poslove. Kada su templari izmislili cek, to je bilo isto. Kod templara u jednoj drzavi zalozis sumu novca, oni ti daju vrednosni papir, i taj papir moze da se inkasira ne samo kod templara, nego i kod drugih. Pare se vide samo na pocetku lanca i na kraju lanca.
Nemoj da zaboravis da su finansije isto kao i pokretne stepenice - dok se kotrlja i dok svi lepo ulaze i silaze, nema nikakvih problema. Ali, ako se neko oklizne i padne...
Kako sam sistematski uništen od idiota
Kriza drma Amerikom,
više nije dobro nikom,
samo oni nisu pali
što su krizu izazvali.
U Evropi trpe krizu,
a ona je nama blizu,
kod nas niko i ne haje,
kod nas kriza večno traje.
Šta li će Obama
da misli o nama?
Baš me mnogo dupe boli
da l' nas mrzi, da l' nas voli?
Izazivač svetskog rata
možda crni demokrata?
Il' možda republikanac?
Svakako Amerikanac.
Biće rata, nema mira
dok ne stignu do Sibira.
Preživelih biće
samo teoretski,
ovaj rat je konačan,
poslednji i svetski.
Na planeti
bez pameti.
Biblijsko proročanstvo,
nestaje čovečanstvo.
Crne slutnje, crna slika,
da proglasi pobednika
neće moći niko,
nema nas toliko.
Uzalud želje u zidu plača,
zid puca kao da je od gipsa,
na horizontu četiri jahača
znam da dolazi apokalipsa.
Tačno je da sam zadrti pristalica teorije zavere, ali, takođe, tačno je da prilično veliki broj ljudimisli na sličan način. Mene impresionira sebičnost svetskih vladara (oko 2.000 moćnih i uticajnih ljudi) i njihova nesposobnost da vide dalje od sopstvenog nosa.
Pre neki dan napunio sam 56 godina i mogu komotno da kažem da sam proživeo intenzivno bar jedno tri života. Dakle, ne žalim sebe i svoju generaciju, žao mi je naše dece i unuka kojima se sistematski ruši sistem tradicionalnih vrednosti (vera, ljubav, nacija, porodica, identitet...), a naturaju im se neke nove, još od malih nogu preko crtanih filmova.
Zar stvarno želite da vam deca liče na teletabise? Zar stvarno mislite da su demokratiju izmislili potomci avanturista, kriminalaca i vucibatina koji su ,,otkrili" novi svet, pobili domoroce i opljačkali sve što je tamo vredelo?
Zar vam možda imponuje dominantna i arogantna svetska velesila sastavljena od evropskog taloga, u kojoj su narodni heroji (pardon istorijske ličnosti) ubice i kriminalci Džesi Džems, Bili Kid i Bufalo Bil?
Zar vam nije jasno da je Buš lutka na koncu i da nije pravi predsednik SAD. Jasno je da ga je postavila na tron ta manjinska grupa sebičnih i za sebe pametnih vladara iz senke.
Ono što najviše smeta vlastima u Americi jeste to što boluju od kompleksa više vrednosti. Zemlja ispošćena, Arapi otkidaju sa cenama nafte, a preko puta nedirnuti Sibir, pun svega i svačega i, nažalost, deo Rusije. Sve bi išlo mnogo lakše kada bi na čelu Rusije bio Jeljcin ili neko njemu sličan. Ovako, Ameri su prinuđeni da startuju na Sibir indirektno, preko Evrope i bivših sovjetskih republika. Kosovo je bilo mali test mogućeg sukoba u odnosu na Gruziju. Pri tom su svi zaboravili da Rusiju vodi Putin koji se sada zove Medvedev. Tako su, umesto Amerikanaca, Gruzini dobili i te kako dobre batine. Amerika i Evropa su neubedljivo protestovale, a Rusija je ostala mrtva hladna i, pozivajući se na sramni presedan Kosova, priznala je nezavisne države Južnu Osetiju i Abhaziju zbog kojih je navodno izbio sukob.
Sad bih se malo vratio na način kako Putin rešava probleme. Teroristi upadnu u pozorište, Putinovi specijalci pobiju teroriste, ali strada i jedan broj gledalaca. Teroristi upadnu u školu, Putinovi specijalci pobiju teroriste, ali strada i jedan broj kidnapovanih.
Iako Amerikanci još uvek potcenjuju rusku vojnu silu, a precenjuju svoju, ipak su shvatili da je bolje da kao ,,topovsku hranu" koriste novopečene saveznike NATO-a. Sasvim dovoljno američkih vojnika vratilo se kući u plastičnim vrećama. Nije to politički mnogo popularno, bolje je da, kao na Kosovu, ni kriv ni dužan pogine Ukrajinac braneći američke interese.
Gledajući kako NATO opkoljava Rusiju i znajući da Rusi neće birati sredstva i način da se brane nemam razloga da budem optimista. Sve je manje nade da će pobediti razum i sve je više šansi da će ljudska rasa izvršiti kolektivno samoubistvo.
Shvatite me kako god hoćete.
Borisav, pion u tuđoj partiji šaha, Đorđević.
Bora Corba, Politika
P.S
S obzirom, da je Bujke novi urednik Bolikite nadam se je ovo poslednji Borin tekst; toliko banalnosti i opstih mesta u jednom tekstu odavno nisam procitao.
Tja. Ovo je kao da je pisao onaj raspad Lukovic, samo sto je nesto kulturnije.
pesmica je kao i sve novije borine – prilična za na vrata od klozeta, u najboljem, i tera me na bljuvanje baš kao i "sistem tradicionalnih vrednosti (vera, ljubav, nacija, porodica, identitet...)"; na žalost, ovo ostalo nije dovoljno daleko od istine da bi ga se zajebavalo.
ako nešto bude došlo kraju živog sveta na planeti (a pre svega čoveka; neke bubašvabe možda i prežive) – biće to besprizornost, drčnost, bezobzirnost amerikanaca.
pritom sam definitivno skeptičan prema šansi da ta zemlja ikada 'ozdravi', tj da počnu da je vode drugačiji principi od sadašnjih.
Sve se menja. Matematički gledano osuđeni smo na bar jednu od bar dve opcije: da nestanemo, i/ili da se promenimo. Sve ostalo je boranija.
Je li, Alexdelarge, ti baš nisi zabrinut? Zamisli, dođe vreme opšteg riknjavanja, a ti nisi stigao u Evropu! Još sediš u Srbiji i veruješ u demokratiju. Čime ti to peglaš vijuge? Ceo svet su zaljuljali svojim nakaradnim globalizmom i korporativnom ekonomijom, a pare izmišljene. I dok bude onih koji plaćaju interes na glavnicu (kamate) imaće od čega da žive. Prava globalna Dafina Milanović. Piramidalno kockanje sa 6 milijardi ljudskih života! I ti slediš one koji nas vuku u taj haos!
Da li ti je poznato da je i velika naftna kriza izazvana od strane globalnih kompanija i prekinuta kad je Bush zavapio da je dosta te igre. Kad sam, u junu, odlazio iz SAD benzin je koštao 4$ galon, a preksinoć mi ćerka javlja da sad košta 1,85$. Soroš je svojevremeno odigrao takvu igru sa funtom.
Mislim da se u EU grdno zabavljaju na naš račun. Kao mi bismo hteli, a oni nam postavljaju uslove. Naša vlast neće u Evropu, jer im je prvi zadatak restitucija, a dok je Dinkića nje neće biti. Mladić je samo izgovor. Holandija je protiv, jer je ona kriva za Srebrenicu. Oni su štitili naoružanu enklavu dok nisu zbrisali kad je vrag odneo šalu.
Pa, onda priča o penzionerima. Trostruko više para odlazi iz tog budžeta na održavanje masivnih ilegalnih administracija vlade. Pre nedelju dana izneli su brojke koje to potvrđuju. Onaj glupi RRA ima desetak ljudi da vodi računa o elektronskim medijima, a odgovarajući FCC u SAD ima armiju od nekoliko hiljada ljudi koji nadziru njihove medije. Ali nemaju armiju besposlenih probisveta koji su zaposleni u Dinkićevim organizacionim jedinicama. Ako neko hoće lobby mora da nađe svoje finansijere, ako neko hoće caucus važi isto. Kod nas javna potrošnja prevazilazi sve normalne granice. Moju i susedne ulice godinama raskopavaju i zakopavaju (svaki put dižu i asfalt), kao da imaju tapiju na Profesorsku koloniju. Što bi bilo sinhronizacije kad para ima u budžetu. Pomalo verujem da i petlja oko Beograda kasni da ne bi Mrka završio na vreme, pa da se pravi važan. Ne daju mu pare na vreme i gotovo.
Naša demokratska korupcija seže do šaltera. Svi se "ugrađuju", svakom si odmah dužan neku uslugu... Jeftini smo, svi smo na prodaju.
Zato ću da dreknem: "Gde su naše pare?", "Gde je imovina moje žene koju koriste, raubuju i preprodaju, kao i imovinu mnogih drugih?" "Kad ćemo dobiti ministre koji neće biti nadležni samo kad to njima odgovara, već i odgovorni za ono što rade?" Još nisam na TV video ministra koji je na pitanje o propustu odgovorio: "Jeste, ja sam odgovoran." Policija je stalno u dilemi koga sme da hapsi, a koga ne. Pravosuđe nije donelo rešenje koje nije oboreno. Bio sam zapanjen kad sam utvrdio da ni DS nema kompetentne profesionalce za resore u kojima su ministri! Šutanovcu salutiraju oficiri, kao da nije civilno lice! Čudo je ova naša Srbija, moj Alexdelarge, samo mi nije jasno kako ti to čudo ne vidiš!
Dođe mi da epitaf odaberem kao onaj iz romana "Predeo slikan čajem", koji je bio i Grk i Bugarin, pa odabrao da umre kao Grk. Da piše da tu počiva Evropejac - bolje jedan njihov, nego jedan naš.
Quote from: "scallop"Kad sam, u junu, odlazio iz SAD benzin je koštao 4$ galon, a preksinoć mi ćerka javlja da sad košta 1,85$.
Benzin je, kao i druga roba, kao i berza, podložan zakonitostima potražnje i ponude. Potražnja za benzinom se smanjila, a proizvodjači su se usrali, pa su spustili cene. Evo, Mitalu u Evropi pala proizvodnja čelika za 50 %. Tako će da se spusti i cena čelika.
Sve će da pojeftini, samo će hrana, voda i stan da poskupljuju bez prekida. :(
QuoteJe li, Alexdelarge, ti baš nisi zabrinut?
...nemoj da brigas, zivot se stara, dok bude ljudi, bice i para...
Umoran sam. Idem na pocinak. Kad se probudim, napisacu nesto pametno. To je zato, sto je jutro pametnije od veceri.
Laku noc.
Quote from: "Cornelius"Benzin je, kao i druga roba, kao i berza, podložan zakonitostima potražnje i ponude. Potražnja za benzinom se smanjila, a proizvodjači su se usrali, pa su spustili cene. Evo, Mitalu u Evropi pala proizvodnja čelika za 50 %. Tako će da se spusti i cena čelika.
Sve će da pojeftini, samo će hrana, voda i stan da poskupljuju bez prekida. :(
Brate moj, to ti je nestabilna ravnoteža. (Bio ti je bolji stari potpis) Ta zakonitost potražnje i ponude, kad suviše dobro funkcioniše, da se malo pogurati, prodrmati - možda se skazaljka zaglavila?
Nešto ste mi zapustili ovu temu. Kao da Amerika više nije na ivici propasti? I nije. Danas je Dow Jones sišao ispod 8000! Do januara će Obami ostati samo otpatci. Ipak, galon benzina je sada u Tulsi 1,75$. Jedino mi se žale da svaki dan nešto poskupljuje.
Quote from: "scallop"Nešto ste mi zapustili ovu temu.
Ma, ko će bre da prati njihovu krizu, kada svako prati svoju. Kod njih je sve toliko otišlo u materinu, da to više i nije neka novost. General Motors pred bankrotom, država neće da finansira sve gubitke banki i osiguranja, država oće da gura potrošače da se još zadužuju... Nek crknu. Zasluženo.
Danas se Džordž Buš obratio javnosti i govorio o ekonomiji, da bi pripremio teren za sastanak G20. Tekst koji su mu napisali odgovara realnosti najbogatijih Amerikanaca - budućnost ekonomije se nalazi u potpuno slobodnom tržištu. Znači, oni koji poseduju USA, ne žele nikakvu promenu. Tako će i biti.
A sistem će pojesti sam sebe i kraj. :evil:
Ja mislim da tržište može da bude slobodno, i istovremeno ljudi da budu zaštićeni. Potrebno je "samo" da zakoni i nivo ekonomije svuda budu isti.
Quote from: "mac"Ja mislim da tržište može da bude slobodno, i istovremeno ljudi da budu zaštićeni. Potrebno je "samo" da zakoni i nivo ekonomije svuda budu isti.
...u Nigeriji i Severnoj Koreji, kao u Japanu i Nemačkoj.
Ova tema ponovo jenjava, ali Dow Jones je danas opet ispod 8000. Ekspert u SAD se pitaju:
Where is the bottom? (cit. New York Times)
Kad dodirnu dno biće na čvrstom tlu. Na žalost, neki manje važni će među zombije. :P
Eto, Amerima se javilo i ono čudo koje nisu videli ni jedan jedini put od Drugog svetskog rata, pa na ovamo - deflacija! Sad su još ozbiljnije počeli da seru u gaće. Obamin dolazak neće ništa promeniti, jer kao što vidimo, on izabira svoju ekipu po kriterijumima "teška kategorija", a ne kao što je prosečan USA stanovnik mislio da će biti "novi ljudi za nova rešenja".
Quote from: "Cornelius"Eto, Amerima se javilo i ono čudo koje nisu videli ni jedan jedini put od Drugog svetskog rata, pa na ovamo - deflacija! Sad su još ozbiljnije počeli da seru u gaće. Obamin dolazak neće ništa promeniti, jer kao što vidimo, on izabira svoju ekipu po kriterijumima "teška kategorija", a ne kao što je prosečan USA stanovnik mislio da će biti "novi ljudi za nova rešenja".
Znao sam da ćeš se na'vatati na ovo.
Meni je Charles nakačio "New York Times" kao bazni sajt pa uvek moram njega prvo da gledam. Oni još veruju da će da se izvuku na stari način.
Retail je ozbiljno posrnuo u
Holliday Season, a to je katastrofa. Jelena po prvi put zna cene u prodavnicama! To je indikativ da nešto ide loše, jer ranije nikad nije znala koliko šta košta.
Upper middle class saznaje za cene na tržištu! To je signal koji ozbiljno može da zabrine. Jebiga, pripadaju u gonjih 2% po prihodima, a useravaju se. Jelena se nada da to neće zahvatiti i
Great Plains, kao daleko su od
Wall Street-a. Charlesovi roditelji imaju ozbiljne gubitke u ulozima na akcije! A populacija seniora u SAD se smatra dobrim pokazateljem zbog
discretional income. To su ti pare koje ostaju od
income-a kad se odbiju obavezni troškovi. Seniori su kategorija kod koje se očekuje da imaju uštedu "bele pare za crne dane". Da bi se napala da ih potroše. A oni uložili u akcije, jer je
savings kategorija prokažena.
'Ajd' sad malo ti!
Evo jednog zanimljivog teksta koji se bavi ovom temom.
KAKO JE AMERIKA POSTALA IMPERIJA...
... I KAKO ĆE PROPASTI?
Piše: Ivona Živković
Bivši guverner američke centralne banke (FED), Alen Grinspen, koji je ovaj posao radio skoro 30 godina, ovih dana je u intervjuu nemačkom "Šternu" jasno izrekao baš ono što upućeni u tajne monetarne politike odavno već naslućuju. Dolar će, po svemu sudeći, morati uskoro da ustupi mesto svetske rezervne monete znatno jačem i stabilnijem evru.
Ali, i bez Grinspena zna se da je Amerika odavno prezadužena, ekonomski iscrpljena, radna mesta se poslednjih godina masovno sele iz SAD jeftinijoj radnoj snazi na Daleki Istok, a američka nacija, ogrezla u nemoralu i psihološkoj devijantnosti, prepuna nasilja i obesti od trke za novcem i abnormalno visokim standardom, moraće ka -tad da se spusti na tlo - u realnost. Gde je normalno da jedan glumac, muzičar ili fudbaler zaradi stotine miliona dolara?
Cene nekretnina su ovih dana drastično pale zbog enormno visoke ponude na tržištu. Radi se zapravo o nekretninama koje su kao hipoteka (mortgage = mrtav zalog) pripale bankama. Banke koje su obilato prodavala bezvredne dolare uzimajući kao "mrtav zalog" nekrentine, sada nemaju kome da to prodaju. Niko nema takozvanog "svežeg" novca da ih kupi.
Ova pljačkaška vrteška sastavljana od spekulativnog novca i realnih vrednosti, u kojoj su bankari vekovima prodavali NIŠTA, da bi od gradjana uzeli SVE, došla je konačno do tačke kada se vrteška mora usporiti ili potpuno zaustaviti, da se sve ne raspadne. O spekulativnom (bankarskom) novcu ste već čitali u tekstovima Ko vlada svetom? i Mali vodič za ljubitelje kredita.
Da će američka berza verovatno doživeti težak potres, jer će cene mnogih akcija drastično pasti, upućuje i nedavni gest anonimnog berzanskog špekulanta koji se krajem avgusta u velkoj ponudi (put options) za kupovinu akcija od 21. septembra 2007. praktično "opkladio" da će doći do kraha berze. On je kupio opcioni ugovor (za kupovinu paketa od 6.5 miliona akcija po ceni od 740 $ do što iznosi 4.5 milijarde dolara. Kupac ove opcije predvidja da će nakon tog datuma doći do pada akcija od 30 do 50 %. Ukoliko se to ne dogodi kupac će biti u gubitku najmanje 1 milijardu dolara (!), ako do pada dodje zaradiće najmanje 2 milijarde (!).
Šta može da izazove ovako veliki pad vrednosti akcija? Teroristički napad, svakako. To je prvo što su mnogi pomislili.
Ali, ako ste čitali tekst o tome ko zaista stoji iza Al kaide i Osame Bin Ladena, onda ste shvatili da globalna elita veoma vešto orkestrira terorizmom upravo zato da bi imala opravdanje za svoje finansijske spekulacije. Kako bi se inače ovi berzanski spekulanti tako obogatili? Možda pukom srećom?
Na žalost, mnogi misle da su ovi špekulanti nalik kockarima. Ali nije tako. Samo glupi ljudi se kockaju sa vlastitim novcem. Pametni ljudi na sve načine pokušavaju da novac uvećaju. A bankari su pametni. (Zamislite samo kako bi bilo pogubno za vlasnika lutrije kada bi se loto kuglice izvlačile nasumice iz šešira? Ili iz običnog prozirnog lavora? Šta, ako neko svaki put ubode "sedmicu". Zato, ako ste u loto biznisu i želite da zaradite puno para od naivnih kockara, morate za izvlačenje kuglica imati veoma preciznu skalameriju (poseban bubanj na primer) i, naravno, sve uplaćene kombinacije brojeva u kompjuteru pre izvlačenja. Kompjuter će vam 'očas posla dati onaj broj koji niko nije uplatio. "Sedmicu" ćete pustiti tek u svakom desetom ili petnaestom izvlačenju. Dakle, smanjićete 10 do 15 puta mogućnost da isplatite premiju. I uzimaćete tako velike pare gramzivim i lakomislenim naivcima. Prosta logika, zar ne?)
Berzanskim "kockarima" su zato uvek potrebni berzanski potresi, ali koje će kontrolisati. Njih izazivaju najčešće ratovi i nestabilno tržište. Ko zna ishod rata - nosi sve. Dakle, treba krizu izazvati, orkestrirati njome i iz nje profitirati. U globalnom biznisu gde se "igra" sa trilionima dolara i milionima ljudskih života, ništa se ne može prepustiti slučaju.
Globalizam je upravo sistem globalne vlasti. Globalni mozgovi znaju kako se to radi i imaju moćne poluge za sprovodjenje svojih zamisli. Dakle, ako možete da kontrolište finansijske i privredne tokove u čitavom svetu, onda podela sa državnim granicama ne znači ništa više do crno belih polja velike šahovske table (kako je političku scenu nazvao i Zbignjev Bržežinski). Vi se onda slobodno možete zalagati za globalizam.
Samo sa ovakvom igrom bilo je moguće staviti pod kontrolu pojedinih dinastija stotine triliona dolara bogatstva iz čitavog sveta.
Ali, dok čekamo rasplet na američkoj berzi, pogledajmo kako je SAD postala imperija i šta to zaista znači?
ŠTA JE IMPERIJA?
Za razliku od nacionalne države, koja putem poreza globi sopstvene gradjane, imperija na isti način oporezuje druge države. Razlog za stvaranje imperije je upravo to - globa drugih država i naroda.
U poznatoj istoriji ljudske civilizacije uvek je postojala neka imperija - Vavilon, Asirija, Egipat, Grčka, Rim, Španija, Turska, Francuska, Velika Britanija. Danas je to SAD.
Istorijski globa se vršila u različitim formama. Uzimalo se najčešće zlato i srebro, ali i drugi metali, zatim robovi, žene, vojnici, stoka, usevi i sl. Silom nametnuta globa uvek je bila direktna - vojno okupirana država morala je globu da daje direktno imperiji.
Ali, da bi jedna država došla u poziciju da se nametne kao imperija, ona mora prvo dobro da razvije sopstvenu ekonomiju kojom će stvoriti jaku vojsku i finansirati ratove.
Iako je primarni zadatak vojske odbrana ekonomije, u slučaju SAD stvorena je izuzetno snažna vojska očigledno sa namerom da Amerika vremenom postane imperija. Jer, SAD nikada nisu bile ugrožene spoljnjim neprijateljima. Ali, da ponovimo, ništa u politici nije slučajno. Naročito ako podjete od činjenice da se državnom politikom nikada nisu bavili obični ljudi (narod), već isključivo vlastelini. Dinastički princip nasledjivanja dao je vlasteli i duži život. Dakle, planiranje razvoja sopstvenog gazdinstva u narednih 200 - 300 godina jeste - državna politika.
Prirodna podela ljudi na moćnike koji silom otimaju tudje i slabije koji koji moraju da rade za jačeg - stara je koliko i ljudsko društvo. Sve ostale podele - na narode, države, religije - napravili su vlastelini. Karikatura iz 19 . veka pokazuje da se tu vekovima ništa ne menja.
Poslednja imperija, SAD, prvi put u istoriji za oporezovanje drugih država upotrebila je drugačiji metod - indirektnu globu putem monetarne politike. SAD su tako potlačenim zemljama u ogromnim količinama distribuirale svoj novac (papirnu obveznicu), koji su vremenom namerno obezvredjivali.
Evo kako je to teklo.
GLOBA PUTEM MONETARNE POLITIKE
Ekonomski razvoj Amerike počinje odmah nakon revolucije u Rusiji, kada su poslednji vlastelini, Romanovi, zbačeni sa vlasti. Učinjeno je to baš u trenutku kada se, sirovinama i jeftinom radnom snagom prebogata Rusija, spremala na tehnološku revoluciju. To bi od Rusije za samo nekoliko decenija stvorilo najmoćniju ekonomiju na svetu. Ali Globalni Mozak ne sedi u Rusiji. Naprotiv, Rusija mu se još pre hiljadu godina izmakla kontroli. (Ali, u ovom tekstu nećemo o ovom Globalnom Mozgu, odnosno najvećoj i najstarijoj političkoj konsalting agenciji na svetu).
Danas se zna da je svrgavanje ruske dinastije finansirano iz medjunarodnih bankarskih krugova, te da su u neposrednim radovima učestvovali organizovani aktivisti medjunarodne komunističke mreže koju je smislila i finansirala takozvana judeo-masonerija. (Naravno, po ideji i scenariju Globalnog Mozga).
Dakle, dozvolimo da su takozvani "medjunarodni bankari" sami skovali plan da stvore jednu novu imperiju kojom će pokoriti ostali svet.
Američki dolar je tada bio vezan za zlato, tako da je njegova vrednost bila konstantna. Ovo je odredjeno Zakonom o zlatnom standardu još 1900. godine, donetim u mandatu predsednika Mekinlija. Količina dolara u opticaju je morala tako biti jednaka količini zlata koju je država posedovala.
Predsednik Mekinli je ubijen 1901. Atentator je bio mladi poljski Jevrejin (Frenk Čolgoš), blizak komunističkim krugovima u SAD koje je predvodila Ema Goldman. Tako je na predsednički položaj, bez izbora, stigao Teodor Ruzvelt, koji je samo godinu dana pre toga Mekinliju nametnut za potpredsednika.
Po procenama istoričara, T. Ruzvelt u to vreme ne bi mogao da bude izabran za predsednika. Otac mu je bio njujorški trgovac, a majka iz bogate jevrejske porodice Bjulok (Bullock), koji su bili i robovlasnici. Ruzvelt je obrazovan privatno na Harvardu (koji i danas slovi kao vodeći cionistički univerzitet), dok je njegov politički imidž kreiran u njujorškoj štampi.
Dakle, bio je predodredjen za državničku funkciju i važan zadatak. Upravo u njegovom mandatu (1901-1909.) privatni korporativni biznis pod kapom takozvane judeo-masonerije preuzeo je kontrolu nad velikim delom američke ekonomije.
Tako je 1910. ovih sedmoro ljudi, predstavljajući tada najmoćnije dinastije sveta (koje su u to vreme kontrolisale preko 25 % svetskog bogatstva) , na famoznom Džekil Ostrvu selo da pregovara o formiranju zajedničke centralne banke. Njihova zamiso je ostvarena 1913. kada je osnovana banka Federalne rezerve, koja je postala američka centralna banka. (Knjigu na engleskom o formiranju FED možete preuzeti ovde). Oni koji su bili protiv, "sticajem okolnosti" utopili su se 1912. na "Titaniku"
"Velika Depresija" kojoj je prethodila inflacija (1921- 1929.) kao i ogroman državni dug, značajno su povećali količinu dolara u opticaju. Tako je postalo nemoguće držati dolar vezan za zlato, jer ga Amerika u tim količinama nije ni imala.
ORKESTRACIJA RATA
Franklin Delano Ruzvelt (1933 -45.) dobio je zadatak da dolar razdvoji od zlata.
Tako je za potrebe Drugog svetskog rata (kao i prethodnog) Amerika snabdela saveznike u Evropi i Japanu zalihama robe i oružija i tražila za to plaćanje u zlatu. Naravno, velika opasnost koja je iz Nemačke pretila, u liku sumanutog firera i osvajača sveta Adolfa Hitlera, naterala je ove države da se teško zadužuju i spremaju za rat. Takodje se za rat spremala i Nemačka.
Ali, Nemačku je isti bankarski kartel finansirao tajno ( o čemu je u svojim knjigama dokumentovano pisao Entoni Saton).
Ako uzmemo u obzir da je "veliki vojskovodja" Adolf Hitler zapravo bio prilično neuk čovek, koji je pobegao iz Austrije upravo da ne bi služio vojsku, onda vam je jasno da je ova marioneta sa karakterističnim brčićima (kojom su manipulisali tajni masonski agenti iz "mističnog" društva "Tule" , a masovne zastrašujuće vojne parade režirala Leni Rifenštal), radila upravo ono što je bankarska elita priželjkivala. Moćna Nemačka je uvedena u ratnu zamku kako bi pretrpela težak ekonomski slom. Ova bogata zemlja, sa izuzetnim radnim i intelektualnim potencijalom, slična Rusiji, stavljena je nakon rata pod potpunu ekonomsku kontrolu medjunarodnog bankarskog kartela. Tu je i danas i poslušno sprovodi politiku stvaranja EU. (Kad neko kaže da je Angela Merkel najmoćnija žena na svetu, taj mora da se šali.)
Glavni finansijeri "velikog vojskovodje", a zapravo austrijskog vojnog dezertera, bili su Nemci sa druge strane Atlantika (Morgan, Šif, Rokfeler...), svi članovi judeo-masonske bankarske elite.
Znamo kako se ovaj rat završio. Ogromna ratna odšteta koju je Nemačka morala da plati bila je, naravno, u zlatu. Rusija je dobila svog dželata (Staljina) i olakšana je za 20 miliona stanovnika. Dve najmoćnije države na svetu, Rusija i Nemačka su savladane. Novi Svet, zapravo kolonija u vlasništvu stare evropske aristokratije, u koju su dopremljeni robovi, brojni poljski, ruski, italijanski i jevrejski imigranti, nemački tehnologija i intelektualni potencijal, bila je spremna za ulogu imperije 20. veka.
U Americi je i završio najveći deo ovog zlata. Američka ekonomija postala je dominantna u svetu.
Ali, Amerika još nije bila imperija.
RADJANJE IMPERIJE
Fiksirana količina zlata za dolarske novčanice, pretila je da vremenom i druge države koje bi u trgovini sa Amerikom došle u posed dolara, ove novčanice zamene za zlato. To se moralo sprečiti.
U ekonomskom smislu američka imperija je stvorena nakon monetarnih reformi usaglašenih u Breton Vudsu 1945. Tada US dolar nije bio u potpunosti konvertibilan za zlato, već je to bio samo za strane države. Ono što više nisu mogli Amerikanci, mogli su stranci.
To je dolar dovelo u poziciju da postene svetska rezervna moneta, s obzirom da je iza dolara tada stajala zaista ogromna zlatna rezerva. Ali, da su zalihe dolara u skladu sa odlukama u Breton Vudsu bile držane u skladu sa količinom zlata i mogućnošću da se dolar zameni za zlato u svakom trenutku, od imperije ne bi bilo ništa.
Tako, nakon 1960. kreće finansiranje rata u Vijetnamu (bio je to zapravo krstaški rat), uz istovremeno stvaranje takozvanog "Velikog Društva" u samoj SAD. To je bio program ogromnih socijalnih davanja za najsiromašnije Amerikance. Koliko je ovo bilo apsurdno (istovremeno finansiranje rata i ogromna socijalna davanja u zemlji) evidentno je. Ali, ako znamo da je cilj ovakve politike bio što više štampanja novca, onda je to sasvim u skladu sa namerama globalne oligarhije. Glavni politički igrač u ovom delu je bilo Lindon B. Džonson, čovek koji je nakon ubistva Džona F. Kenedija stigao na čelo SAD sa potpredsedničkog mesta. Dakle, opet bez izbora. (Da li je to isti "mozak" smišljao 1901. i 1963.?)
Količina dolara u opticaju počela je vrtoglavo da raste. Ovakav novac, emitovan bez ikakvog ekonomskog pokrića, obilato je davan širom sveta za kupovinu razne robe i sirovina koje su u Ameriku uvožene.
Amerika je kupovala i kupovala i izdavala svoje zelene dolarske obveznice. Za sve to vreme zadržavala je robni deficit uz istovremenu inflaciju. Vrednost dolara je tako sve više padala.
Kada su strane države u svojim bankama 1970. i 1971. već akumulirale ogromne količine dolara, pokušale su da ih zamene za zlato. Ali, SAD toliko zlata nisu imale. Bio je to u ekonomskom smislu čin bankrotstva. Dakle, dolar , koji je bio garancija za plaćanje robe zlatom, postao je bezvredan. Tako su SAD, 15. avgusta 1971. praktično bankrotirale. Medjutim, domaćoj javnosti je ovo prikazano kao "politika razdvajanja dolara od zlata" sa ciljem da se stimuliše ekonomski razvoj i povećaju investicije.
Dakle, SAD su praktično uzevši ogromnu količinu robe širom sveta, odbile da to plate. I svet joj nije mogao ništa. Nekad moćne Rusija i podeljena Nemačka - znate pod čijom su okupacijom bile te 1971. (Nije li iz ovoga evidentno za koga je radio "Veliki drug Staljin").
Amerika je tako postala najveća sila.
Tih godina, sa Ričardom Niksonom kreće nova američka politika - era imperije. Iako dolar nije bio nikakva garancija u trgovini, Amerika je rešila da ga nametne kao sredstvo plaćanja. Tako je 1973. godine sa vodećom zemljom OPEC-a, Saudijskom Arabijom, sklopljen gvozdeni sporazum. Saudijska kraljevska porodica je dobila moćnog zaštitnika, a za uzvrat je morala da vrši pritisak da sve države članice ovog naftnog kartela prodaju naftu isključivo za dolare.
Od tada do danas, koja god država u svetu je htela da kupi naftu, morala je prvo da kupi dolar. I tako je nastao petro- dolar. Dakle, dolar je umesto vezanosti za zlato, postao vezan za naftu.
Kako je sa tehnološkim razvojem potreba za naftom postajala sve veća širom sveta i dolar je sve više tražen i kupovan. Naravno, tu kupovinu su druge države plaćale svojim sirovinama, robom i zlatom. Amerikanci su samo štancovali zeleni papir.
(Naš siroti Nikola Tesla uzaludno je pokušavao da pokaže da svet može imati mnogo isplativije i jeftinije energente, ali bankarski kartel, koji je već sproveo najveći deo svog nauma, morao je i ovog naučnika da ućutka.)
SREDSTVO MASOVNE OBMANE?
IRAČKO- IRANSKE PROVOKACIJE
Namera Sadama Huseina da naftu počne da prodaje za evre, teško bi ugrozila Imperiju. Da li je to bio razlog da se Irak okupira, a Husein svrgne sa vlasti?
Sada Iran uporno pokušava da otvori svoju naftnu berzu (Iranian Oil Bourse - IOB) i da naftu prodaje za evre, jene, pa i rublje. Otvaranje se već treći put odlaže, ali je dogovor o prodaju nafte Japanu i to za jene izgleda na vidiku. Otvaranje ove naftne berze Amerikancima će svakako doneti težak berzanski potres, jer će im se gomila bezvrednih dolara sliti u centralnu banku, a čitavu državu može zahvatiti strahovita inflacija. Sporazum Irana i Japana postignut je upravo ovog meseca. (Da li je to tajna mogućeg kraha američke berze nakon 21. septembra?)
Globalna oligarhija je, ipak, spremila i drugu izuzetno jaku ekonomiju koja će moći da preuzme imperijalno kormilo nakon ekonomskog kraha Amerike. To je Evropska Unija. Naravno, stožer EU će biti katoličke zemlje, dok će jeftinu radnu snagu i vojsku dati narodi bivšeg Istočnog Bloka.
Stvaranje posebne EU vojske, Centralne evropske banke i ogromnim politočkim uticajem takozvane "Medjunarodne zajednice" , EU će verovatno već u drugoj polovini ovog veka biti nova svetska imperija. Kako ni EU nema naftu, princip globe će verovatno biti isti. Evro se može u budućnosti vezati za resurs koji EU ne poseduje, što znači da se ekonomija EU može veštački i po potrebi oligarhije snažiti i slabiti. Glavno snabdevanje nafte će ići preko Rusije.
A američki gradjani? Kako kroz inflatornu krizu prevesti trista miliona besnih, agresivnih i naoružanih Amerikanaca, od kojih je svaki dužan skoro 300 000 dolara (ukupni dug gradjana se samo od rata u Iraku, koji je premašio trilion dolara, utrostručio). Koji će američki predsednik reći svojim gradjanima da će od sada da zaradjuju kao ruski i kineski radnici, da je priča o američkom snu i enormnom bogaćenju bila samo prevara koju su vešti baroni pljačke plasirali "namoćnijoj", "najbogatiojoj" i "najdemokratskijoj" naciji na svetu?
Ne, to im niko ne ne može reći.
Zato se krivica za pad dolara mora pripisati nekom spoljnom neprijatelju, recimo teroristima (nepostojeće) Al Kaide. Zbog njih će Amerikanci morati ponovo u rat. A "teroristi" su rasporedjeni po čitavom svetu. Dovoljno da se ova džinovska sila potpuno uruši, kao i Nemačka nakon Hitlera. Nakon Velikog rata, Amerika će biti svedena na sasvim prosečnu ekonomiju čije će dugove narod otplaćivati decenijama, radeći možda i u gulazima, dok će se nafta prodavati za evre.
Nezadovoljne gradjane u SAD nakon finansijskog kolapsa "smirivaće" već odavno teško naoružana policija, ali i strane vojne snage u okviru NATO.. Uz stalnu medijsku priču o terorizmu, opštem porastu nasilja i kriminala, ove specijalne snage sa dugim cevima godinama su jačane i već su na ulicama svih američkih gradova da "štite gradjane". Ali, pogledajte ih, pa recite da li je normalno da policija nosi ovakvu opremu? Da li je ovo oprema za smirivanje gradjanskih nereda ili za ubijanje?
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Ali valuta im skače, majku im njihovu. A naša opada.
Quote from: "Demo(n)lisher"Evo jednog zanimljivog teksta koji se bavi ovom temom.
KAKO JE AMERIKA POSTALA IMPERIJA...
... I KAKO ĆE PROPASTI?
Piše: Ivona Živković
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Da li ona svoje tekstove pise iz hobija ili dobija neku lovu za to? Nadam se da je ipak ovo drugo u pitanju.
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Ne volim kad se postuju ovakve priče. Onda nemam priliku da komuniciram sa autorom, a prenosilac pruke je - prenosilac poruke.
Ono što mi se ne dopada u ovakvim tekstovima je što postoji pozadinska intencija, odnosno, neko pokušava da nas ubedi da su dešavanja sistematizovana i vođena. To me podseća na tumačenja Nostradamusa (čitao sam jedno iz 1941. i u njemu glorifikaciju uloge Hitlera). Takođe mi se ne dopadaju judeo-masonske implikacije. To uvek upućuje na zaveru, globalnih razmera, a moje skromno iskustvo i duboko uverenje je da zavere tih razmera jednostavno ne mogu da opstanu. Velike zavere imaju velike ciljeve i mnoštvo učesnika različitih nivoa, od kojih svako ima svoje, posebne ciljeve. Ti pojedinačni ciljevi urušavaju zaveru. Ne brinite, ni ovo nije zavera, bar nije zavera koja će uspeti.
U pitanju je sumanuta potreba uvećanja sopstvenog poseda iz straha od nekog drugog poseda koji bi mogao da ga ugrozi. Apsolutna vlast ima i apsolutnu opoziciju. Globalizacija i korporativna privreda posledica su te težnje. Jednom me je jedan američki pukovnik u penziji pitao zašto se mi Srbi stalno bunimo kad dobijemo batine. Odgovorio sam mu da kad mi mali padnemo, napravimo - "buć", a kad oni budu ljosnuli to će da bude - "buuum!" Više me ništa nije pitao na toj svadbi u Dallas-u 1992. godine. Kad izgori straćara i nastrada jedna osoba, čoveku koji je ostao bez oca i pita se kako će bez krova nad glavom, onda je to pitanje koje će biti zaboravljeno odmah po emitovanju na TV. Kad ljosne Twin Tower onda je to globalni problem. Posle ove digresije, mogu da kažem da je američka imperija, izgrađena na zahvatanju iz prostora između proizvođača i kupca, a bez postojećeg novca, zagrabila kašikom u čorbu koju je sama zakuvala. Koliko su druge strane zagazile u globalni, korporativni sistem, toliko će i da nastradaju.
Pre nego što završim sa tekstom koji ste čitali, savetovao bih Demo(n)lishera da izgradi svoje stavove i da sa njima nastupa. Tako bih imao s kim da raspravljam, a ne sa iskrivljenom slikom u tekstu koji je postovan.
U priču se umešao i nejaki DuŠman sa pitanjem - zašto onda dolar raste? To je dobro pitanje, a odgovor bi mogao da bude složen, ako ne znamo i neke druge okolnosti. Valuta je jaka ako u zemlju stiže više novca nego što odlazi. Sa'će neko da kaže da je naš spoljnotrgovinski bilans negativan, a dinar ipak bio jak. Bio bi u pravu, ako se ne bi računao nerobni promet (to je obično turizam i doznake iz inostranstva). Na sreću, i kapital koji smo "uvozili" više je išao na račun korporativnih firmi koje su se nasadile ovde radi profita. Taj priliv sad jenjava, jer oni spolja nemaju pare, pa dinar mora malo da rokne naniže. To što i neke cene rastu je posledica "korporativnog mozga" naše vlade i toga što su tako "efikasno" podržali našu privredu da su seljaci poklali sve svinje. Zbog toga ćemo mi biti malo zdraviji, a oni koji će da se češu, nek se češu.
Tu ostaje deo koji se tiče Amerike. Ako mi i nismo važni. E, pa tamo, cene rastu. A plate padaju. Svaki dan. Broj ljudi koji žive na "tačkice" porastao je sa 27 miliona na 33 miliona. Cornelijus lupa o deflaciji. Amerika više nije poželjna zbog niskih cena i gomile Evropljana koji su tamo išli u šoping, sada sede kod kuće. I Ameri se stisli i paze na svaki dolar. A, naše kafane i dalje pune.
Nego, da ja pitam tebe, DušMane, kad smo već u kancelariji: Zašto Boban nije mogao da odnese nijedan primerak Emitora 473 u Zagreb? On misli da je bojkot.
Vjerojatno zato što je sve što je ostalo od tiraža od predprošlog ponedeljka kod urednika E.
Ja se nadam da će dolar uskoro opet opasti, jer mi ova situacija nikako ne odgovara za naručivanje naslova preko neta.
Quote from: "DušMan"Vjerojatno zato što je sve što je ostalo od tiraža od predprošlog ponedeljka kod urednika E.
Da, izgleda da je to u pitanju, što me neko nije obavestio u međuvremenu, pa da prosledim koji primerak Bobanu. btw ostatak tiraža više nije kod mene, prosleđen je zakku u prošli ponedeljak...
Quote from: "scallop"Takođe mi se ne dopadaju judeo-masonske implikacije. To uvek upućuje na zaveru, globalnih razmera, a moje skromno iskustvo i duboko uverenje je da zavere tih razmera jednostavno ne mogu da opstanu. Velike zavere imaju velike ciljeve i mnoštvo učesnika različitih nivoa, od kojih svako ima svoje, posebne ciljeve. Ti pojedinačni ciljevi urušavaju zaveru.
Isto mislim. Mada, iz iskustva, takav stav ti ništa ne vredi kad se nađeš u društvu ljubitelja svetskih zavera. Praktično je nemoguće diskutovati, jer odmah krenu da te zatrpavaju lavinom podataka kako bi pokazali kako si zapravo jako naivan, pošto ne znaš svaki i najmanji detalj iz oblasti međunarodne politike i svetske istorije koji "dokazuje" suprotno...
Quote from: "scallop"Ono što mi se ne dopada u ovakvim tekstovima je što postoji pozadinska intencija, odnosno, neko pokušava da nas ubedi da su dešavanja sistematizovana i vođena. To me podseća na tumačenja Nostradamusa (čitao sam jedno iz 1941. i u njemu glorifikaciju uloge Hitlera). Takođe mi se ne dopadaju judeo-masonske implikacije. To uvek upućuje na zaveru, globalnih razmera, a moje skromno iskustvo i duboko uverenje je da zavere tih razmera jednostavno ne mogu da opstanu. Velike zavere imaju velike ciljeve i mnoštvo učesnika različitih nivoa, od kojih svako ima svoje, posebne ciljeve. Ti pojedinačni ciljevi urušavaju zaveru. Ne brinite, ni ovo nije zavera, bar nije zavera koja će uspeti.
Ja to nikad ne bih nazvao teorijom zavere, to je u vecini slucajeva pogresno interpretiran pojam koji uvek dovodi do sukoba misljenja, razlicitih vidjenja oko neke stvari koja se desila.
Kao i Dejan Lucic, ja bih ovakve stvari nazvao
teorijom interesa jer se oko interesa i profita neke krupne stvari pokrecu. Nema tu emocija, i nekih sitnih pakosnih zadovoljstava, vec samo cist interes i ko dobija vise.
U jednom raportu čiji je naslov "Global Trends 2025 - a Transformed World", National Intelligence Council (NIC) predvidja da će USA izgubiti primat najveće svetske sile do 2025. godine, a time i izgubiti mogućnost da vrše jednostrane vojne agresije na suverene zemlje.
Ja bih ovako, odokativno, dodao da će dotle i da ih otkupe Kinezi. Evo, već su ponudili da otkupe deo AIG-a, propale firme za osiguranje, nekadašnje najveće svetske firme za osiguranje. Bio Sloba vidovit kada je počeo da dovodi Kineze za Srbiju, znajući da tako potkopava zapadnjački kapitalizam i jača komunistički kapitalizam.
Quote from: "Cornelius"Bio Sloba vidovit kada je počeo da dovodi Kineze za Srbiju, znajući da tako potkopava zapadnjački kapitalizam i jača komunistički kapitalizam.
Znao je on vrlo dobro sta radi, ali onog trenutka kada je gospodja Mira Markovic dozvolila rad Sorosevim organizacijama u Srbiji,on je sebi potpisao smrtnu presudu. Stegnuta pesnica kojom je mlatarao na pocetku svoje politicke karijere, mu je dosla glave.
Ha, setio sam se jedne propovedi iz '80-tih. Nikad aktuelnija pesma.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brL1AKdhLyQ :!:
Quote from: "Cornelius"Bio Sloba vidovit kada je počeo da dovodi Kineze za Srbiju, znajući da tako potkopava zapadnjački kapitalizam i jača komunistički kapitalizam.
Ne znam kakvi su ti Kinezi u Kini, ali ovi kod mene u blokovima su nevidjena stoka. Mali, neugledni, vazda vukljaju nekakve torbetine po autobusima, bucni su i posvadjani. Onaj njihov trzni centar zaudara. Jedna od najstarijih civilizacija, my ass.
Za razliku od nekih forumasa, koji svrsavaju u gace od srece zbog uspona Kine i Indije, ja ne vidim sta oni meni mogu da ponude. Nemam sklonosti da jedem pse, da spavam na ekserima ili da se uz duboko disanje spajam sa kosmosom.
Sve sto valja dolazi iz USA i EU.
Ja sam za to da se u Beogradu napravi japanska četvrt! Siguran sam da će i Dušman podržati tu ideju...
Quote from: "Alexdelarge"Ne znam kakvi su ti Kinezi u Kini, ali ovi kod mene u blokovima su nevidjena stoka. Mali, neugledni, vazda vukljaju nekakve torbetine po autobusima, bucni su i posvadjani. Onaj njihov trzni centar zaudara. Jedna od najstarijih civilizacija, my ass.
Jedina Kineskinja koju sam ja upoznao je bila na magistarskim studijama, a uz to je uvek mirisala kao cvetak. :lol:
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Za razliku od nekih forumasa, koji svrsavaju u gace od srece zbog uspona Kine i Indije, ja ne vidim sta oni meni mogu da ponude.
Pa, da i ti svršavaš u gaće. Bolje ikad, nego nikad.
They got the numbers
Global Trends 2025, a new report written by the US National Intelligence Council (NIC) ahead of President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration, envisages a future world marked by diminished US power, dwindling resources, and more people.
The NIC, an independent government body :roll: , emphasises that its report is not about "crystal-ball gazing" but offers a range of potential futures, including the following key trends.
US DOMINANCE
The US will remain the single most important actor in 2025 but will be less dominant.
It will retain its considerable military advantages, but scientific and technological advances; the use of "irregular warfare tactics" by others; the proliferation of long-range precision weapons; and the growing use of cyber warfare attacks "increasingly will constrict US freedom of action".
The US will still have a role to play as a "much-needed regional balancer" in the Middle East and Asia, despite the recent rise in anti-Americanism.
It will also be expected to play a significant role in using its military power to counter global terrorism, and will be seen as key to finding solutions to climate change.
US policy is likely to be strongly determined by internal developments in a number of key states, particularly China and Russia.
WEST v EAST
The current trend of global wealth and economic power shifting roughly from West to East, described as "without precedent in modern history", will continue.
Brazil, Russia, China and India are picked as countries which might benefit, boosted by rising oil and commodity price rises that have generated windfall profits for the Gulf states and Russia, as well as a shift in manufacturing and some service industries to Asia.
No other countries are projected to rise to the level of China, India, or Russia, and none is likely to match their individual global clout.
China is poised to have more impact on the world over the next two decades than any other country. If current trends persist, by 2025 China will have the world's second largest economy and its military will play an increasingly important role.
TERRORISM
Terrorism is unlikely to disappear by 2025, but its appeal could diminish if economic growth continues and youth unemployment is mitigated in the Middle East.
Terrorist groups in 2025 are likely to be a combination of descendants of long-established groups and newly emergent collections of "the angry and disenfranchised that become self-radicalised".
One of the greatest concerns continues to be that terrorists will use biological agents, or less likely, a nuclear device, to cause mass casualties.
However, al-Qaeda could decay "sooner than people think" due to the group's growing unpopularity in the Muslim world.
"The prospect that al-Qaeda will be among the small number of groups able to transcend the generational timeline is not high, given its harsh ideology, unachievable strategic objectives and inability to become a mass movement."
NUCLEAR WEAPONS
The risk of nuclear weapon use over the next 20 years, although remaining very low, is likely to be greater than it is in today.
Ongoing low-intensity clashes between India and Pakistan could lead to broader conflict. The possibility of regime change or collapse in a nuclear weapon state such as North Korea raises questions regarding the ability of weak states to control and secure their nuclear arsenals.
It is not inevitable that Iran will acquire nuclear weapons, but "other countries' worries" about a nuclear-armed Iran could lead them to develop new security arrangements, including getting nuclear weapons themselves.
"Episodes of low-intensity conflict taking place under a nuclear umbrella could lead to an unintended escalation and broader conflict if clear red lines between those states involved are not well established."
"If nuclear weapons are used in the next 15-20 years, the international system will be shocked as it experiences immediate humanitarian, economic, and political-military repercussions."
Significant geopolitical changes could happen as a result, with some states seeking security alliances with existing nuclear powers and others pushing for global nuclear disarmament.
FOOD AND WATER
The World Bank estimates that demand for food will rise by 50% by 2030, as a result of growing world population, rising affluence, and the shift to Western dietary preferences by a larger middle class.
The number of countries which lack access to stable water supplies will rise from 21, with a combined population of 600 million, to 36 countries by 2025 - affecting 1.4 billion people.
With water becoming more scarce in Asia and the Middle East, co-operation on managing changing water resources is likely to become more difficult within and between states.
If world leaders decide that access to energy resources is essential for domestic stability, then, in the worst case, conflict between countries could break out.
AFRICA
Sub-Saharan Africa will remain the region most vulnerable to economic disruption, population stresses, civil conflict, and political instability.
The region will be a major supplier of the commodities needed to meet increased global demand, but local populations are unlikely to benefit economically. Instead, corrupt or ill-equipped governments could reap the profits.
GLOBAL PANDEMIC
The emergence of a novel, highly transmissible, and virulent human respiratory illness for which there are no adequate countermeasures could initiate a global pandemic.
If such a disease emerges, internal and cross-border tension will become more likely as nations struggle to control the movement of populations fleeing infection or wanting access to resources.
Experts consider highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) strains, such as H5N1, as having the potential to develop, but other pathogens, such as the Sars coronavirus or other influenza strains, could also emerge.
The most likely starting point for a pandemic would be somewhere with a lot of people and close association with animals - such as many parts of China and South-East Asia.
In the worst case, "tens to hundreds of millions of Americans within the US Homeland would become ill and deaths would mount into the tens of millions".
Globally, approximately a third of world's population would become ill and hundreds of millions die.
TECHNOLOGY
The transition from old fuels to new will be slow, as will the development of new technologies which present viable alternatives to fossil fuels or help eliminate food and water problems.
All current technologies are inadequate and new ones will probably not be commercially viable and widespread by 2025.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7741241.stm
Već sam nekoliko puta napisao da je lepše da svoje utiske porodite sami. Citati zahtevaju proveru relevantnosti. Oni su najčešće u funkciji nekog "značajnijeg stava", mogu da zavedu i da od nas načine "sledbenike", a ne samosvojne ličnosti.
Evo, ja ću citirati jednu informaciju i izvući svoje zaključke:
President-elect Barack Obama's reported selections for two major cabinet jobs suggest a preference for pragmatists rather than ideologues.
Ovo znači da nema ništa od "promena" i da je njegova kampanja bila još jedno bacanje prašine u oči. Oni još ništa naučili nisu.
Drugu informaciju su svi osim mene mogli da vide sinoć :cry: :
Holandska porodica već pet godina živi u Srbiji i bavi se povrtarstvom. Dobro su primljeni, svoje proizvode prodaju na "Zelenom Vencu" (ja bih im savetovao "Bajloni").
Ako ta porodica veruje u lepši život, onda dobrodošli, ovde će život uvek biti lepši. Ako su se utronjali od nadolazećih klimatskih promena (sada želim da uplašim Sivku), a u njima će najpre da nestane Holandija, onda treba da se pripremimo za najezdu.
Bolje holandski mladići u Srbiji, nego sprski Mladić u Holandiji. :lol:
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Evo, ja ću citirati jednu informaciju i izvući svoje zaključke:
President-elect Barack Obama's reported selections for two major cabinet jobs suggest a preference for pragmatists rather than ideologues.
Ovo znači da nema ništa od "promena" i da je njegova kampanja bila još jedno bacanje prašine u oči. Oni još ništa naučili nisu.
Ja ovo gore ne citam kao ti, nego, naprotiv, to citam kao znak okretanja USA sebi (a ne "real-politici" "branjenja" svojih "interesa" u Iraku ili po Bliskom Istoku, bar ne na Bushov nacin), okretanja svojim rastucim ekonomskim i socijalnim problemima i njihovom rijesavanju, preko odabira "pragmaticara"/realista u kabinetu, bez previse ideololoskog
imputa kojim je bio obiljezen Bushov kabinet, sa svim onim neo-con, klerikalnim i sl. desno-desnije-od-desnog-centra
delegatima koji su ga cinili.
Ovo gore, dakle, citam bas kao nagovjestavanje te nekakve obecane
The Promjene; jos samo ostaje da se vidi da li ce se ona i desiti, i, ako i zazivi, u kojem to obimu.
Quote from: "David"Quote from: "scallop"
Evo, ja ću citirati jednu informaciju i izvući svoje zaključke:
President-elect Barack Obama's reported selections for two major cabinet jobs suggest a preference for pragmatists rather than ideologues.
Ovo znači da nema ništa od "promena" i da je njegova kampanja bila još jedno bacanje prašine u oči. Oni još ništa naučili nisu.
Ja ovo gore ne citam kao ti, nego, naprotiv, to citam kao znak okretanja USA sebi (a ne "real-politici" "branjenja" svojih "interesa" u Iraku ili po Bliskom Istoku, bar ne na Bushov nacin), okretanja svojim rastucim ekonomskim i socijalnim problemima i njihovom rijesavanju, preko odabira "pragmaticara"/realista u kabinetu, bez previse ideololoskog imputa kojim je bio obiljezen Bushov kabinet, sa svim onim neo-con, klerikalnim i sl. desno-desnije-od-desnog-centra delegatima koji su ga cinili.
Ovo gore, dakle, citam bas kao nagovjestavanje te nekakve obecane The Promjene; jos samo ostaje da se vidi da li ce se ona i desiti.
Ti i nisi neko za koga bi se moglo reći da zna da čita.
Hahahaha...
*ebiga, sta sada da radim, da sparingujem sa tobom ovdje ignoranciju, kao sto ti gore radis? :-))
Necu, nije vrijedno energije i vremena; uzivaj i dalje svoje "citanje"... ;)
Evo kako Rusi vide dogadjanja u SAD-u. Nešto kao balkanizacija Amerike:
Професор Панарин предвиђа распад САД-а
САД ускоро чека потпуни економски крах, чија ће дугорочна последица бити распад данашње суперсиле на неколико самосталних држава - предвиђа професор Игор Панарин, који предаје у Дипломатској школи руског Министарства спољних послова. рема његовом мишљењу, САД ће се распасти на нове државе попут Пацифичке обале, којом ће доминирати кинески досељеници и капитал; Југ, где ће доминирати Латиноамериканци; Тексас, где је покрет за независност у успону; Атлантску обалу са својом специфичном културом и менталитетом; Централни део, од пет сиромашних држава у којима већину чине староседеоци; Север, где се примећује све већа идеолошка блискост са Канадом.
Панарин за лист "Известија" овакву прогнозу образлаже тврдњама које је изнео пре десет година на једној конференцији, када је упозоравао на све мање одрживи инострани дуг САД који је тада износио два билиона долара, а данас износи чак 11 билиона.
"Долар није ничим осигуран. Дуг је нарастао као лавина, иако раних 80-тих није ни постојао. То је пирамида која само може да падне."
"Захваљујући економској кризи, три од пет најјачих и најугледнијих банака на Вол стриту већ је престало да постоји, а две једва преживљавају", каже Панарин и тврди да ће САД због тога престати да буду светски финансијски регулатор, а на то место ће доћи Кина и Русија.
Панарин сматра да ће економски проблеми за Американце постати све неиздржљивији због пропасти фирми као што су "Ford" и "General Motors", те масовног губитка уштеђевина у банкама, раста цена и незапослености.
"Гувернери банкротираних држава сада све више опседају Вашингтон тражећи помоћ, а незадовољство зауставља једино уверење да ће Барак Обама направити чудо. Али, већ на пролеће ће се испоставити да од чуда нема ништа", тврди Панарин.
Iz njegovih usta...
držim palčeve
Smehotresno.
Ja kad odem na kijos da kupim neki novina tako i da procitam nesto,
ja si uvek uzmem onaj koji me zanime,sto bi htijo da znajem...
pa eto tako sad sam resijo da bidnem moderan i svecki, pa citam atkuelno...
Al, ne sto je to sad u modu ,nego me i stvaaaarno zanima
mlogo me nekako milina oko srce kad neko kaze da ce Ameri
da propadnu,leleeee...
tako se osetim nekako ,ihhhh....
Pa ja cim vidim da pored ovu svecku krizu u Ameri, neki nesto napise o tome,
ja ooooma trcim da kupim to da mu verujem...
....lepo zvuuuci ,
..pa me milinaaaa.... ihhh...
sto volim sto sam intelektualac!
Quote from: "SVAROG"Ja kad odem na kijos da kupim neki novina tako i da procitam nesto,
ja si uvek uzmem onaj koji me zanime,sto bi htijo da znajem...
pa eto tako sad sam resijo da bidnem moderan i svecki, pa citam atkuelno...
Al, ne sto je to sad u modu ,nego me i stvaaaarno zanima
mlogo me nekako milina oko srce kad neko kaze da ce Ameri
da propadnu,leleeee...
tako se osetim nekako ,ihhhh....
Pa ja cim vidim da pored ovu svecku krizu u Ameri, neki nesto napise o tome,
ja ooooma trcim da kupim to da mu verujem...
....lepo zvuuuci ,
..pa me milinaaaa.... ihhh...
sto volim sto sam intelektualac!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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MOTHER OF ALL CRISIS
Zasto ova kriza prevazilazi obim i znacaj one iz 1930-te:
1. Odnos "futures" i "options" (prema proizvodnji roba i usluga) je porastao - samo u zadnjih 4 godine - za 460% prema 9%, u korist prvih.
2. Obrt novca na Marketu je $2 triliona dnevno, prema $150-200 biliona u robi i uslugama
3. Ako je CDO-market $60 triliona, a "toxic"-"subprime" preko $10 triliona, ko ce da plati lopovluk?
4. Koliko onda treba da devalvira dolar, zbog svega gore pomenutog? 50%?
5. Ako prosecni Amerikanac danas predje 12,500 milja (3/4 njih vozeci sami) i ako njihova potrosacka korpa putuje skoro 300 hiljada km da bi dosla na sto, koliko ce to da ga kosta, ako se predvidja da ce "barell" u buducnosti da bude oko $80 dolara?
6. Sta ce Amerikanac u buducnosti da vozi, ako njegova kola trenutno trose 1/3 vise nego japanska, i koliko ce mu trebati vremena da ih transformise "u japanca", da njegov "SUV" stvarno ne postene suv?
7. Prelazak zapadnih ekonomija na drugi/e izvore energije, treba da (ih) kosta bar jedan GDP! Sta tek, ako "Tesla-car" i slicni projekti ne budu uspjesni u proizvodnji ultra-baterija, i sve ostane kao sto je bilo i do sada - na nafti, koje vise nema?
Sve pomenuto nagovestava da Velika Kriza iz 30-tih i nije bila tako velika, kakva ce ova da bude.
Ma kakva kriza, kakvi bakraci...pogledajte, sta se samo dobro krka ovih dana...samo plasite ove divne ljude koji dolaze na ZS.
Quote from: "Alexdelarge"Ma kakva kriza, kakvi bakraci...pogledajte, sta se samo dobro krka ovih dana...samo plasite ove divne ljude koji dolaze na ZS.
Kao i obično, kao i svi drugi - i ti si delimično u pravu.
Ja jesam savetovao da treba biti oprezan sa postovima koji se sad generišu na različitim mestima. Većina je tipa onih sumanutih proroka sa Divljeg Zapada koji su kružili unaokolo i proricali smak sveta. Takve priče ni ja ne volim i zato se kod nas "krka dobro ovih dana". Ko je naučio da se suoči sa činjenicama on zna da napuni svoj tanjir i da uživa u njegovoj sadržini.
Ipak, globalnu krizu smo osetili kako se prikrada na vreme i opreznost nije na odmet. Kada se između proizvođača i potrošača umetne nemerljiv broj onih koji bi da drpe nešto u tom međuprostoru - kriza je na vidiku. Kada se proizvodnja đubreta praktično izjednači sa obimom potrošnje, onda je vreme da se digne uzbuna.
Obama je najavio "javne radove" i "ulaganje u alternativne izvore energije". Ja ću da se složim da je ideja "javnih radova" poticajna, jer se "brza zarada" zamenjuje sa ulaganjem u "dugoročno profitabilne projekte". To je bio
New Deal Frenklina Ruzvelta, to su bili "autobahn"-ovi Hitlera, to su bili Sibirski "gulazi" Staljina. Svako je u resurekciju privrednog sistema ulagao šta je imao na raspoloženju. Ali to su bile tridesete godine prošlog veka, a danas je prva dekada trećeg milenijuma.
Mislim da Obama nema potencijal radne snage koja bi iznela novi
New Deal. Tridsetih godina su to bili Amerikanci i delom importovani Kinezi. Danas, to ne mogu da iznesu Meksikanci i drugi importovani iz Srednje Amerike. Amerikanci više nisu spremni da rade. Ja sam
video prazninu Great Plains i odsustvo potencijala koji je SAD imala u vreme Ruzvelta.
Drugi deo projekta je vezan za "alternativne izvore energije". Kako shvatiti da je neko natukao barel nafte u junu ove godine na 140$, a da sad vredi oko 50$. Izvlačenje iz mrtvih banaka koje su sve zakuvale je zaludan poduhvat. Treba im Dinkić, da sve zatvori i da finansijski sistem postavi tamo gde i treba da bude - podrška, a ne formalni posednik nepostojeće imovine. (Ne volim Dinkića, ali je njegov potez bio funkcionalan.) Na žalost, izvlačenje banaka i investicionih fondova nije "promena" koja je najavljivana. Iz dana u dan pratim kretanje vrednosti indeksa "Dow Jones" i polako shvatam da on ne odražava realnu snagu američke privrede, već predstavlja iluziju koliko bi ona vredela kad bi vredela.
Da se vratim iz digresije: "alternativni izvori energije" bili bi dobar projekt, da se već oko njega ne okupljaju lešinari. U Wyomingu, koji je poznat kao "vetrena država" sa prosečnim vetrovima brzine 25 milja na sat (izvor NYT), odjednom su se pojavili "biznismeni" koji bi da otkupe prava na eksploataciju enegrije vetra. Vlasnici zemljišta, koje nije služilo ničemu, pokušavaju da se organizuju i odbrane svoja prava. Da li je to na liniji suzbijanja krize ili su eksploatatori krize već na delu?
Hajde, Alexdelarge, malo se obavesti, pa da ponovo razgovaramo. Ja sam ubeđen da će kriza nastaviti svojim putem, sve dok se ne promeni odnos prema ciljanom profitu, kao jedinoj kategoriji koju poštuje biznis u SAD.
A sad malo ja. 2002.god proveo sam osam meseci radeci u NY za jednu firmu u kojoj radim i zadnjih pet god. od kada su otvorili predstavnistvo u BGD-u. Jednom prilikom slusao sam neki radio sou gde su se dvojica voditelja i slusaoci koji su se ukljucivali u program raspravljali oko toga gde bi trebalo uloziti novac na deset godina a onda bi sve ideje skupili i pozvali jednog nezavisnog brokera koji ima svoju emisiju gde svakoga jutra daje svoje vidjenje berze. Sad to je emisija zabavnog karaktera pa je jedan od voditelja tvrdio da bi trebalo uloziti u " izvore alternativne energije" u Finskoj a drugi da bi trebalo kupiti evre i drzati novac kuci ispod kreveta s tim sto bi svake veceri dodavao sitnis iz dzepova. Na kraju emisije pozvali su tog brokera i covek kao da je bio prorok. Rekao im je da bi za te pare najpametnije bilo da kupe konzerviranu hranu koja moze da se ne pokvari deset godina jer kako stvari stoje bice im potrebna. (napominjem da je ta emisija bila 2002.god). Sam sebe je nazvao Doomsday broker. xanix
Quote from: "scallop"Iz dana u dan pratim kretanje vrednosti indeksa "Dow Jones" i polako shvatam da on ne odražava realnu snagu američke privrede, već predstavlja iluziju koliko bi ona vredela kad bi vredela.
Berza, kao i svako drugo tržište, podleže zakonima ponude i potražnje. Trenutno ima više ponude (naročito lošeg) nego potražnje, pa cene padaju. Berza ne daju sliku ekonomije jedne zemlje, nego mapu najbogatijih preduzeća.
Već su počeli da se ubijaju zarad uštede od nekoliko dolara.
Wal-Mart worker dies in apparent shopping stampede
By Jack Healy and Angela Macropoulos Published: November 28, 2008
A Wal-Mart employee in suburban New York was trampled to death by a crush of shoppers who tore down the front doors and thronged into the store early Friday morning, turning the annual rite of post-Thanksgiving bargain hunting into a Hobbesian frenzy.
At 4:55 a.m., just five minutes before the doors were set to open, a crowd of 2,000 anxious shoppers started pushing, shoving and piling against the locked sliding glass doors of the Wal-Mart in Valley Stream, New York, Nassau County police said. The shoppers broke the doors off their hinges and surged in, toppling a 34-year-old temporary employee who had been waiting with other workers in the store's entryway.
People did not stop to help the employee as he lay on the ground, and they pushed against other Wal-Mart workers who were trying to aid the man. The crowd kept running into the store even after the police arrived, jostling and pushing officers who were trying to perform CPR, the police said.
"They were like a stampede," said Nassau Det. Lieutenant Michael Fleming. "Hundreds of people walked past him, over him or around him."
The employee, who was not identified, was taken from the Wal-Mart to nearby Franklin Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 6:03 a.m., the police said. His exact cause of death has not been determined. The police said that three other shoppers were injured and a 28-year-old woman who was eight months pregnant was taken to the hospital for observation.
Quote from: "Cornelius"Već su počeli da se ubijaju zarad uštede od nekoliko dolara.
Wal-Mart worker dies in apparent shopping stampede
Jest' izgaziše čoveka načisto. To je kao ono jurcanje sa bikovima u Španiji. Američka tradicionalna jurnjava u
superstores, da bi sledećih pola sata kupovali po jako niskim cenama. Svake godine ima povređenih, ali je ovoga puta neko i zaginuo.
U petak, u jednoj prodavnici Toys R Us, u Kaliforniji, grabeći se za proizvode na rasprodaji, dva kupca su pucala jedan na drugog. U pucnjavi je poginulo dvoje.
debili :x
Razmišljao sam gde da denem uvodni pasus iz NYT-a, da li tamo gde neko misli da će ukokati Obamu ili ovde.
The realignment of the auto industry described by Barack Obama sounds perilously close to a word no one in his camp wants to say: nationalization.
Tekst komentariše razgovor sa novim top voditeljem (anchor) na TV Tom Brokaw-om. O planu spasavanja auto industrije. Bilo bi zanimljivo da oni koje ova tema zanima to pročita. Ako zna engleski. Za one koji ne znaju ili ih ne zanima previše:
Obama je neformalno optužen da ulazi u proces nacionalizacije i da će nova forma SAD biti najpribližnija Kineskom kapitalizmu!!!!
Usput sam saznao da ovo nije prvi put. To je Hari Truman izveo 1952. godine kad je vadio iz govana čeličane u SAD. Međutim, Vrhovni sud je to vrlo brzo oborio.
Obama je optužio da je ono što se događa krajnji rezultat politike sprovođene trideset godina (jasno da se radi o Reagan-izmu). A najzanimljivije je što će, zbog hitnosti, akt o pomoći autoindustriji u Detroitu potpisati Bush!!!
Bilo je tu još pitanja o tome da li će se pomoći i Hondi i Toyoti, jer su i te fabrike na tlu SAD i zapošljavaju Amere? Kao i priča o carskom dekretu koji je svojevremno podelio pravce prodora japanske autoindustrije. Kako je trebalo i da se odredi ko će šta da proizvodi i Mr. Honda se pobunio, jer je trebalo da se odrekne motorcikala.
Prijatno čitanje.
Delimicna nacionalizacija (drzava kao vecinski akcionar) jeste jedino resenje koje ce povesti ka izlazenju iz krize. Kada su drzave 1929. godine odbile da pomognu banke i osiguravajuca drstva, doslo je do sloma sistema. To ne sme da se ponovi, a po tom pitanju se slaze i vecina americkih strucnjaka, medju kojima su Stiglitz i Fukuyama.
Inace, po recima Paula Krugmana, ova kriza sadrzi elemente ne samo Velike krize, nego i Naftne krize, Japanske inflacije, Start-up krize, i svih ostalih ekonomskih kriza koje smo proziveli tokom zadnjih 70 godina. On vidi resenje u udaljavanju od reganizma i auto-regulacije trzista.
Svi se nekako vracaju Keynesovim tendecijama.
Jos samo kad bi bilo linka.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/business/economy/09nationalize.html
Quote from: "Usul"Jos samo kad bi bilo linka.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/business/economy/09nationalize.html
Vidiš da znaš da nađeš. Ja sam komentarisao samo jednu rečenicu.
Prodaju spermatozoide da preguraju recesiju
Suočeni s jednom od najgorih ekonomskih kriza u istoriji, zaduženi do guše i strahujući da će izgubiti svoja radna mesta, Amerikanci prodaju sve i svašta pa čak i ono što im je podarila majka priroda: kosu, spermu, jajne ćelije, krvnu plazmu.
Na porast ponude "organskih proizvoda" ukazalo je nekoliko unakrsnih istraživanja, kao i direktori najvećih klinika, centara za veštačku oplodnju i banaka sperme u zemlji.
Prema poslednjim istraživanjima u jesenjim mesecima, u trenutku kada se rasplamsavala finansijska kriza broj davalaca sperme se gotovo utrostručio.
U istom ovom periodu, broj donatorki jajnih ćelija povećao se za 30 odsto, a broj donatora krvne plazme 50 odsto.
U porastu je takođe i broj mladih Amerikanaca koji prodaju svoju dugu kosu radnjama koje prave perike kao i broj mladih žena koje pristaju da budu surogat majke.
U proseku ove "transakcije" omogućavaju Amerikancima da zarade od 60 do 100 dolara za bočicu sperme, 7.000 dolara za jajnu ćeliju, 200 dolara za duži pramen kose i između 20 i 50 dolara za krvnu plazmu.
U ovom poslednjem slučaju ističu banke krvi, nije reč o pravoj isplati već o kompenzaciji troškova za prevoz i utrošeno vreme donatora.
Sa desetak "seansi", pojedini mladi donatori sperme uspevaju da pokriju troškove smeštaja na koledžu, a pojedine devojke koje nude svoje jajne ćelije da plate univerzitetsku školarinu.
(Tanjug)
Quote from: "Alexdelarge"U proseku ove "transakcije" omogućavaju Amerikancima da zarade od 60 do 100 dolara za bočicu sperme
Blago kitovima, oni bljunu 2 tone sperme odjednom. Treba biti kit u SAD.
Quote from: "scallop"Quote from: "Alexdelarge"U proseku ove "transakcije" omogućavaju Amerikancima da zarade od 60 do 100 dolara za bočicu sperme
Blago kitovima, oni bljunu 2 tone sperme odjednom. Treba biti kit u SAD.
Prevejani su Ameri. Napravili su oni kitovske bocice od 2 tone, pa tako i kit za jedno bljuvanje dobije 60 do 100 dolara (sto mu se ne isplati kad se uzme u obzir cena prevoza do banke sperme, neprekidnog zalivanja i gubitka kncentracije u bolnickim uslovima).
Quote from: "Alexdelarge"U proseku ove "transakcije" omogućavaju Amerikancima da zarade od 60 do 100 dolara za bočicu sperme, 7.000 dolara za jajnu ćeliju
kakva je to diskriminacija na polnoj osnovi!?
znači, 1 muškarac mora da sebe izmuze 100 puta u mesec dana da bi zaradio za jednu žensku mjesečnicu???!!!
pa to li je ta zapadna demokratija, to li su te vrednosti, to li je zemlja jednakih 'opportunities'?
:cry: :cry: :cry:
btw, svojevremeno, dok sam bio u berkliju, vidim na kampusu oglas: nude 50$ za malo sjemena.
pomislim: damn! easy money if I ever saw one! a ja se još premišljam dal da kupim sabrane priče r. aickmana za 55$, pa mi mnogo. a ovo...
međutoa!
onda mi sine: hm, ne bih voleo da neko u tamo nekoj laboratoriji odgaja mog sina dušana i ukršta ga sa pacovima il bubašvabama, to ne bih podneo – naročito ne za tako sitnu lovu.
i tako, na kraju – propustih tu šansu.
i ne kajem se, da se razumemo.
:lol:
Quote from: "Ghoul"kakva je to diskriminacija na polnoj osnovi!?
znači, 1 muškarac mora da sebe izmuze 100 puta u mesec dana da bi zaradio za jednu žensku mjesečnicu???!!!
E Ghoule, opet ta tvoja instinktivna mizoginija zbog koje nekad ne možeš racionalno da misliš. :evil:
Zapravo, ovo je prilično dobro izbalansirano. Žena može da 'doprinese' jednom u mesec dana, dok muškarac može skoro pa neograničen broj puta u istom periodu, ali je to, ipak, razumno ograničeno na otprilike tri puta dnevno. I još muškarac, kao čist bonus, zaradi taj novac tako što doslovno spoji business and pleasure...
Quote from: "Milosh"Zapravo, ovo je prilično dobro izbalansirano. Žena može da 'doprinese' jednom u mesec dana, dok muškarac može skoro pa neograničen broj puta u istom periodu, ali je to, ipak, razumno ograničeno na otprilike tri puta dnevno.
naravno, tvoj emo pristup stvarima te sprečava da razmišljaš racionalno i planski.
nikad od tebe neće biti kapitalista – tj drkadžija sposoban da to svoje unovči.
naime, 1 od osnovnih principa kapitalizma jeste VREME JE NOVAC!
zamisli koliko vremena treba da potroši muškarac da bi zaradio koliko jedna žena (koja za tu zaradu ne mora da radi NIŠTA)!
zar je to pošteno?
:cry:
Quote from: "Ghoul"nikad od tebe neće biti kapitalista – tj drkadžija sposoban da to svoje unovči.
Tu si potpuno u pravu. :lol:
Ghoule, Ghoule, kakvu si ti šansu propustio, a ovde radiš džaba. Žene se rađaju sa svim svojim polnim ćelijama, a mužjaci moraju da drkaju.
Quote from: "Ghoul"zamisli koliko vremena treba da potroši muškarac da bi zaradio koliko jedna žena (koja za tu zaradu ne mora da radi NIŠTA)!
zar je to pošteno?
:cry:
:D
da, kod žena ne postoji uloženi rad... niko ne naplaćuje fizički rad. Stvarno mnogo jeftino, bre...
Ali to je zato što žene kontrolišu ponudu na tržištu i potražnja je kod njih uvijek manja od ponude (izmisle da ih je sramota, da se stide... sve je to ekonomski proračun), dok kod muškaraca ponuda nadvisuje potražnju, uvijek ima više drkadžija nego kupaca.
Morate ljudi manje da drkate, da se sramite i stidite, i odmah će vam cijena skočiti.
Ostavite se drkanja:
Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois was arrested and charged with corruption, including an allegation that he conspired to profit from appointing a senator to succeed Barack Obama.
Ovaj "naš" pokušao da proda Obamino bivše mesto u Senatu za 500.000$. Eto šta sve neće da uradi kriza! Što neće kriza malo i kod nas pa da po'apsimo ove naše.
Quote from: "scallop"Ostavite se drkanja:
Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich of Illinois was arrested and charged with corruption, including an allegation that he conspired to profit from appointing a senator to succeed Barack Obama.
Ovaj "naš" pokušao da proda Obamino bivše mesto u Senatu za 500.000$. Eto šta sve neće da uradi kriza! Što neće kriza malo i kod nas pa da po'apsimo ove naše.
ja već okačio vest o tome na 'SERBIA TODAY', ti ovde, a dimbo u svom ćošetu: dakle, ovo je više od vesti dana, ovo je vest godine! ko zna na koliko će još topika biti okačena do sutra!?
:roll: :x
Quote from: "Ghoul"ja već okačio vest o tome na 'SERBIA TODAY', ti ovde, a dimbo u svom ćošetu: dakle, ovo je više od vesti dana, ovo je vest godine! ko zna na koliko će još topika biti okačena do sutra!?
Izgleda da sam ja jedan od retkih koji čita tvoje postove. :lol:
Quote from: "Milosh"Izgleda da sam ja jedan od retkih koji čita tvoje postove. :lol:
to ti je istovremeno i najveća nagrada i najveće prokletstvo!
Quote from: "Ghoul"to ti je istovremeno i najveća nagrada i najveće prokletstvo!
:cry:
Šta očekivati od čoveka sa ovakvom frizurom?
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg517.imageshack.us%2Fimg517%2F4243%2Frodblagojevitr3.jpg&hash=91b98f7d074b9be581d282206b5e2b43b04f7341)
Rodja Blagojević, slikan prekjuče
Pustili ga uz kauciju od 4500$. Jedino će mu oduzeti pravo da delegira senatora na upražnjeno mesto.
Quote from: "Cornelius"Šta očekivati od čoveka sa ovakvom frizurom?
tera kosu na prirodno. :D
Ovaj idiot je dao povoda da nam se i dalje ruši ugled u svetu.
Mi smo u nemilosti celog sveta,stalno moramo da dokazujemo običnom svetu da nismo ljudožderi i onda se dogodi da jedan magarac dozvoli sebi da to prebriše.Ovo je dobrošao argument NATOu i saveznicima da opravdaju bombardovanje Srbije iz 1999.
Svet nas ne mrzi,svet nas vidi onakvim kakvi zaista jesmo.
Sad zbog Blagojevicha nikad nećemo ući u Evropsku uniju. :cry:
Quote from: "EKSTREMISTA"Ovaj idiot je dao povoda da nam se i dalje ruši ugled u svetu.
Nije on jedini. Evo i ja sam neku noć, vraćajući se kući, stao uz jedno francusko drvo i pišao. Bilo je nešto osvetljenih prozora i mislim da me je neko i video - moj tipični srpski profil, srpski šešir i srpski mlaz. Nadam se da neće niko da vas bombarduje, ali ako se to desi, onda ste piš kolaterala.
Quote from: "Cornelius"
- moj tipični srpski profil, srpski šešir i srpski mlaz.
Dobro je. Ne muči te prostata
Moj brat je pišao na sred Menhetna. Jedva je našao drvo.
Blagojević je pokušaj da se naudi Obami. Posredno. Sve u Americi je na prodaju: ako skupiš dovoljno para za kampanju - pobedio si. Niko ne pita za stavove i uverenja. I kod nas nema razlike. Jedino ne možeš da ih nateraš da objave ko im je dao pare. A, izgleda da tajkuni daju svima pomalo. Jedino Čeda dobija sa druge strane, on je rezervni džoker.
"tajkuni" daju svima, pa i Čedi
Quote from: "EKSTREMISTA"Ovaj idiot je dao povoda da nam se i dalje ruši ugled u svetu.
Mi smo u nemilosti celog sveta,stalno moramo da dokazujemo običnom svetu da nismo ljudožderi i onda se dogodi da jedan magarac dozvoli sebi da to prebriše.Ovo je dobrošao argument NATOu i saveznicima da opravdaju bombardovanje Srbije iz 1999.
Svet nas ne mrzi,svet nas vidi onakvim kakvi zaista jesmo.
Sad zbog Blagojevicha nikad nećemo ući u Evropsku uniju. :cry:
zašto su ljudi ovako glupi? Zašto!?
Da, zaista. On ima veze s nama koliko je Kenedi imao veze s ugledom Republike Irske ili Obama s ugledom Kenije.
Ja mislim da je Rođa sin prvog srpskog vampira, Pere Blagojevića.
Quote from: "Albedo 0"Quote from: "EKSTREMISTA"Ovaj idiot je dao povoda da nam se i dalje ruši ugled u svetu.
Mi smo u nemilosti celog sveta,stalno moramo da dokazujemo običnom svetu da nismo ljudožderi i onda se dogodi da jedan magarac dozvoli sebi da to prebriše.Ovo je dobrošao argument NATOu i saveznicima da opravdaju bombardovanje Srbije iz 1999.
Svet nas ne mrzi,svet nas vidi onakvim kakvi zaista jesmo.
Sad zbog Blagojevicha nikad nećemo ući u Evropsku uniju. :cry:
zašto su ljudi ovako glupi? Zašto!?
Ja sam samo citirao neke od forumaša sa teme o Miladinu Kovačeviću. Zar si stvarno mogao da pomisliš da sam ovo ozbiljno napisao? :roll:
Quote from: "Father Jape"Da, zaista. On ima veze s nama koliko je Kenedi imao veze s ugledom Republike Irske ili Obama s ugledom Kenije.
Da, ali Kenedi (Edvard) ima veze sa Rodom Blagojevićem. Budući da je još jedno seratorsko mesto (Hilari Klinton u Nju Jorku) upražnjeno, Edi je to "bezecovao" za svoju ćerku. Možda neće lova da promeni džep, ali ima tu raznih mogućnosti za robni i nerobni promet i kompenzacije.
Ja više brinem zbog Corneliusovog pišanja. Ako ga je video i prepoznao neki Sarkozijev doušnik, najebasmo! Zaboravio sam da napomenem da je moj brat pišao na Menhetnu u decembru 1998. godine, a znate šta se dogodilo tri meseca kasnije.
Cornelije, kad si tačno načinio to zlodelo?
Quote from: "scallop"Ja više brinem zbog Corneliusovog pišanja. Ako ga je video i prepoznao neki Sarkozijev doušnik, najebasmo! Zaboravio sam da napomenem da je moj brat pišao na Menhetnu u decembru 1998. godine, a znate šta se dogodilo tri meseca kasnije.
Cornelije, kad si tačno načinio to zlodelo?
Moram da priznam da nisam sagledao problem sa te strane :?
@Corneliuse, da li si razmišljao o kesi i kateteru
Quote from: "ayin"Quote from: "scallop"Ja više brinem zbog Corneliusovog pišanja. Ako ga je video i prepoznao neki Sarkozijev doušnik, najebasmo! Zaboravio sam da napomenem da je moj brat pišao na Menhetnu u decembru 1998. godine, a znate šta se dogodilo tri meseca kasnije.
Cornelije, kad si tačno načinio to zlodelo?
Moram da priznam da nisam sagledao problem sa te strane :?
@Corneliuse, da li si razmišljao o kesi i kateteru
Zlodelo sam načinio pre desetak dana, znači do bombardovanja imate još tri meseca. Uzevši u obzir ekonomsku krizu i žešće probleme sa materijalom (videti francusku odiseju u Avganistanu), Super-Sarko neće stići da vas bombarduje naredne godine. Probajte, kao Dalaj Lama, prvo da pregovarate sa Sarkozijevom ženom, možda ona smiri duhove.
@ayin
Ugradjeno odmah po čitanju tvoje poruke.
Quote from: "EKSTREMISTA"Ja sam samo citirao neke od forumaša sa teme o Miladinu Kovačeviću. Zar si stvarno mogao da pomisliš da sam ovo ozbiljno napisao? :roll:
jeste mi ludo zvučalo, ali na ovom forumu - sve je moguće.
AMERICI JE OMEKŠAO, KAŽE DEDA ISTVUD!
Eastwood: 'America Has Gone Soft'
14 December 2008
Clint Eastwood sorely misses his tough youth, insisting America has gone soft since.
The 78-year-old actor claims life was simpler and easier in his upbringing during the depression - when problems were solved using fists rather than a therapist's couch.
Eastwood tells the January edition of Esquire magazine, "Everyone's become used to saying, 'Well, how do we handle it psychologically?'
"In those days you punched the bully back and duked it out. People were tougher then.
"I was a shy kid. But a lot of my childhood was spent punching the bullies out."
Quote from: "Ghoul""I was a shy kid. But a lot of my childhood was spent punching the bullies out."
Heh, pa nije ni cudo sto je glumio legendarnog Prljavog Harija. :evil:
Istvud ili laže da ima 78 godina ili se u vreme depresije ritao po stomaku svoje keve, a kasnije sa klincima u dvorištu. Kad je došlo pravo vreme za tuču on je zbrisao u Italiju da se igra "špageti vesterna". On bi sad da bude Heston umesto Hestona. Bolje bi mu bilo da se osvrne oko sebe i sagleda posledice dela svojih idejnih istomišljenika. I da ode do psihoanalitičara.
Degradacija Amerike dugo traje, i nije u pitanju samo ekonomska, i finansijska. Nekada, a narocito posle 2.sv.rata, ona je bila istinski lider sveta, i uzor mnogim nacijama i drzavama, kako onim istocnoevropskim, koje su stenjale pod SSSR-om, tako i drugima. Danas je Amerika simbol tiranije, sile i nasilja, svetskog policajca. Nikome vise nije uzor. Osim u vrlo retkim slucajevima ( Tirana ), americke predsednike svuda docekuje prezir i bes, demonstracije. Nekada su americki predsednici uzivali ugled, cak i kod neprijatelja. Ko danas postuje Klintona, DZordza Busa ? Coveka koji laze pod zakletvom ? Ili ovoga sto samo zna da poteze topuz ?
To je jedna degradacija, praznina i pustos. Za mene je i sama predsednicka trka, pokazatelj koliko je sve to otislo u krivom pravcu. Prvo Hilari Klinton, zena bez ikakvih moralnih skrupula, bezala u Tuzli od snajpera.. :D . Pa sama predsednicka trka, prosto nisam mogao da verujem, da republikanci nemaju boljeg kandidata, od onog isfrustriranog vijetnamskog veterana, kome je mozak jos zacauren u rovovima hladnog rata. A tek ona nesrecnica sa Aljaske. Ni o pobedniku Obami, nemam bolje misljenje, jedino se nadam da je malo neskloniji potezanju maca od Mekejna. Licno i mislim da su ga mocnici pogurali, da malo smire nezadovoljstvo i kuci i vani, u smislu eto pobedio je covek iz naroda, pa jos crn, amerika je eto i dalje zemlja neogranicenih mogucnosti, itd. Ne verujem mu nimalo, mozda sam po prirodi skeptik, ajd da ostavimo vremena da vidim sta ce uraditi. Izbor saradnika dodatno me ubedjuje, da ne treba puno ocekivati.
Po meni, sigurno je da ce se moc SAD urusiti, samo je pitanje kada i kako. Nicija dominacija u istoriji nije bila vecna, i sigurno ce doci do smene na globalnom prestolu. Ali kako ?
Hoce li se moc SAD, postepeno urusavati, kao recimo Velike Britanije, u smislu da nece vise biti sila broj 1, ali ce i dalje ostati jaka i stabilna drzava ? Ili ce se podeliti, kao nekad Rimsko Carstvo, ili transformisati u nesto drugo ? Ili ce nestati u haosu i plamenu ?
Nimalo mi se ne svidja politika SAD, ni globalno, ni prema nama. Ali opet, nisam ni od onih koji padaju u trans zadovoljstva , cim se tamo nesto lose desi. U pitanju je drzava s takvim oruzanim arsenalom, da moze celu planetu oterati u tri lepe. Zato mi se nimalo ne svidja pomisao na bilo kakav haos tamo, ili nedaj boze, da na vlast dodje neko poput Veslija Klarka, kome se ne svidja da nuklearke came u skladistima, i da na njih pada prasina. Nije nista neobicno u istoriji, da na celo mocnih drzava dodju ludaci i psihopate. Mislim da bi bilo najbolje, da se ta moc postepeno urusi i oslabi, bez velikih potresa i belaja u svetu.
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Nation Finally Shitty Enough To Make Social Progress:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nation_finally_shitty_enough_to
Quote from: "Kruži mailovima"Da se podsete oni koji su imali marksizam ili marksističku filozofiju.
"Vlasnici kapitala i biznisa će kod radnika podsticati i stimulisati potrebu da kupuju njihovu skupu robu:
stanove, kuće i tehnologiju, obavezujući ih pritom da ulaze u skupe hipotekarne kredite do nivoa neizdrživosti.
I na kraju će ti neplaćeni dugovi izazvati bankrot banaka, koje će morati biti nacionalizovane,
pa će država onda krenuti putem koji vodi u komunizam..."
(Karl Marx, Das Kapital).
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"This is a farewell kiss, you dog!
This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq," shouted Al Baghdadia channel journalist ,Muntadar al-Zeidi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSHNRNi91wQ&eurl=
dobri reflexi za drtinu! :shock: na žalost! :( :cry:
Shoe-Throwing Reporter In Custody
A journalist who threw shoes at George Bush is being questioned over the incident, Iraqi officials have said.
Muntadar al Zeidi is facing interrogation over whether he was paid to interrupt the US President's news conference in Baghdad.
The reporter, who works for the Al Baghdadia channel which broadcasts from Cairo, is also being tested for alcohol and drugs.
The reporter jumped up as Mr Bush was speaking alongside the Iraqi prime minister Nuri al Maliki on Sunday.
He shouted, "It is the farewell kiss, you dog," before throwing two shoes.
The first hit the US and Iraqi flags behind the leaders after Mr Bush ducked. The second was off target.
The reporter was immediately wrestled to the ground by security guards and marched out of the room.
Zeidi's employers described him as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man" and said they feared for his safety
"Al Baghdadia television demands that the Iraqi authorities immediately release their stringer Muntadar al Zeidi, in line with the democracy and freedom of expression that the American authorities promised the Iraqi people," it said in a statement.
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Iraqi officials say Zeidi, who is in his late 20s, is being held at the prime minister's headquarters.
Guantanamera...Guantanamera...Guantanamera
Guantánamo-style :evil:
Podrška novinaru koji je gađao Buša
Beograd, Bagdad, Karakas, Moskva -- Hiljade Iračana izašlo je na ulice zahtevajući oslobađanje novinara koji je na pres konferenciji u Bagdadu gađao cipelama američkog predsednika Džordža Buša.
Protesti u Iraku (FoNet)
Ovom novinaru libijska dobrotvorna organizacija, na čijem je čelu kćerka predsednika Moamera Gadafija, dodelila je nagradu za hrabrost. Pristalice novinara Muntadara al-Zaidija demonstrirale su u širom Iraka zahtevajući oslobađanje svog heroja, paleći američke zastave i bacajući cipele na američki konvoj koji je prolazio.
Kako prenose agencije, irački novinar je u međuvremenu predat iračkoj vojnoj komandi u Bagdadu, a njegov brat tvrdi da su ga pripadnici iračke zlužbe bezbednosti pretukli.
Ipak, slika američkog predsednika kako se sklanja od cipele koju je na njega bacio jedan irački novinar obišla je čitav svet.
Incident u kome je Muntadar al-Zaidi, doviknuo Bušu - "Ovo je oproštajni poljubacza tebe, psu! Ovo je za udovice, siročad i sve koji su ubijeni u Iraku" - iračka vlada ocenila je sramotnim i zatražila izvinjenje Kairske televizije Al Bagdadija čiji je Al-Zaidi dopisnik.
Za razliku od iračke vlade, mnogi građani te zemlje odobravaju takav postupak novinara:
"Mislim da je ta cipela došla prekasno. Zaslužio je cipelu još 2003. kada je ušao u Bagdad."
"Zaslužio je da ga gadja sa više od dve cipele! Ko mu je rekao da dodje."
"Želim da mu poručim da je on sin čitavog Iraka. Treba da bude ponosan na sebe."
Građani Sjedinjenih država, s druge strane, ovaj incident uglavnom smatraju duhovitim:
"Nije bilo profesionalno, ali je bilo urnebesno smešno."
"Prvo mi je bilo smešno, a posle sramota. Mislim, ipak je on naš predsednik."
"Pretpostavljam da to pokazuje šta svet misli o Bušu i njegovoj politici."
Al-Zaidi je zatvoren negde u iračkoj zelenoj zoni, a iračke vlasti su saopštile da je u toku ispitivanje da li je za svoj čin plaćen i da li je u trenutku napada bio pod uticajem droga.
Čavez: Hrabar novinar
Novinar gađa Buša cipelom
Podršku novinaru koji je odlazećeg predsednika SAD Džordža Buša gađao cipelama, uputio je i venecuelanski predsednik Ugo Čavez, koji je rekao da je taj novinar bio hrabar.
Čavez je inače poznat kao veliki protivnik SAD, a rekao je da mu je ipak drago što cipele nisu pogodile Buša, ali da se "slatko nasmejao" dok je gledao snimak incidenta tokom sastanka kabineta, što je prenela i venecuelanska televizija.
"Dobra stvar je što ga nije pogodio. Ne ohrabrujem bacanje cipela ni na koga, ali stvarno, kakva hrabrost", rekao je Čavez.
Deset milona dolara za cipelu
Oko para obuće Muntadara az Zeidija koji je gađao cipelom američkog predsednika Džordža Buša nastupila je prava pomama i početna cena od 100.000 dolara dostigla je fantastičnih 10 miliona i to samo za jednu cipelu, što je ponudio jedan biznismen iz Saudijske Arabije.
Kako je javio TV kanal "Rusija", 100.000 dolara za obuću Az Zeidija ponudio je bivši tehnički direktor iračke fudbalske reprezentacije Adnan Hamad.
Međutim, gde se nalaze cipele bačene na Buša pre dva dana na konferenciji za novinare u Bagdadu - nije poznato.
Prema nekim verzijama, njih su mogle da konfiskuju iračke službe bezbednosti, ili su ih odneli kao suvenir saradnici Bušove administracije.
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E ovo je Good Ol' Shoe, a ne onaj paćenik Vudi Harelson!
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WASHINGTON, D.C. (CNN) – White House Press Secretary Dana Perino told reporters today that the infamous Baghdad shoeing incident brought to light some inconsistencies in the way Secret Service handles security at U.S. President's press conferences. Mrs Marino implied the possibility that future could see journalists enter barefoot.
"We must protect dignity of not only President, but also of the United States of America. Extremists cannot be made to think that we will accept such behaviour. " Mrs Perino's announcement comes amid rumours that President-elect Barack Obama isn't happy with implicated consequences that Mr al-Zaidi's (journalist that threw two shoes at President Bush) actions and implications these bear for his press conferences abroad. "Mr Zaidi has every right to express his political views, but extremism and physical violence will not be tolerated if we want to build a better and happier Iraq where people were gassed just because they opposed ruthless dictatorship that this country is now free from. "
Following his violent outburst and consequent detention, Muntadhar al-Zaidi has become somewhat of celebrity in the Middle East and it is clear that the current administration, as well as future one, don't want him to be portrayed as martyr and cause célèbre.
In response to one journalist question whether Secret Service acted too slow Mrs Marino said: "Actions of President's security is under close scrutiny, and you will informed in due time whether any changes will be made. " According to our sources, we won't have to wait until next year to see them implemented.
Biće to - ko u džamiju. :?
A, šta ako počnu da bacaju veštačke vilice? Hoće li im seći dugmad?
http://www.ridiculopathy.com/crappy_flash_games.php?gamename=bushoes
Quote from: "scallop"Biće to - ko u džamiju. :?
A, šta ako počnu da bacaju veštačke vilice? Hoće li im seći dugmad?
cronenberg je još u existenzu, pre skoro 10 godina, našo idealno rešenje za teroriste koji bi da zaobiđu skenere, a da se ne zajebavaju detinjarijama kakve su cipele!
Ne puštaju pse na pres konferencije. Izgleda da je tajna služba već videla taj film.
Quote from: "mac"Ne puštaju pse na pres konferencije. Izgleda da je tajna služba već videla taj film.
ne znam o čemu govoriš: ja referišem na pištolj napravljen od kosti i dr. organskih materijala koji metal-detektori ne registruju.
sa municijom od ZUBA! :evil:
Bar je Bušova kučka zaradila šljivu.
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Dana Black eye Perino
Dana Perino,the spokeswoman was injured when a heavy metal microphone stand swung round at her as security guards rushed to restrain Mr Zaidi, reports said.
Quote from: "Ghoul"ne znam o čemu govoriš: ja referišem na pištolj napravljen od kosti i dr. organskih materijala koji metal-detektori ne registruju.
sa municijom od ZUBA! :evil:
To je u virtuelnom svetu ExistenSa, a u stvarnom svetu prokrijumčarili su oružje kroz psa (bukvalno). Mada, više mi se sviđa tvoja ideja.
ZEJDI ZAPROŠEN
Novinar Muntazer al Zejdi, koji je Buša gađao cipelama, pored miliona ponuđenih za otkup tog para obuće i pisama podrške, dobio je čak i ponudu za brak
Najpopularniji čovek među Arapima, irački novinar Muntazer al Zejdi, koji je Buša gađao cipelom, pored mnogobrojnih pisama podrške i ponuda za otkup legendarnog para obuće , nedavno je dobio i ponudu za ženidbu.
Egipćanin Saad Gumaa, oduševljen Al Zejdijevim postupkom, ponudio je pre dva dana svoju 20-godišnju ćerku Amal na udaju iračkom novinaru. Saadova ćerka je, inače, studentkinja žurnalistike na Univerzitetu Minija i potpuno se slaže sa očevim predlogom.
- Za mene će to biti čast. Volela bih da živim u Iraku, naročito kada bih bila vezana brakom za tog heroja - izjavila je mlada žena.
Njen otac kaže da je pozvao Zejdijevog brata Derghama da mu saopšti ponudu.
- Nemam ništa vrednije od svoje ćerke da mu ponudim i spreman sam da joj obezbedim sve što joj je potrebno za svadbu - rekao je Gumaa.
Irački novinar postao je mitska figura i u Alžiru, gde je po njemu nazvan jedan novi model cipela. Fabrika koja proizvodi obuću nalazi se u planinama Kabilije, u selu Tulmut, 60 kilometara od Alžira.
Pored toga, saudijski princ Hasan Mohamad Makhafa ponudio je 10 miliona dolara za famozni par Al Zejdijevih cipela.
Međutim, te cipele su navodno uništene tokom postupka kojim je utvrđivano da li u njima ima eksploziva.
Jedan istražni sudija izjavio je da je poslao zahtev službama bezbednosti da mu pošalju telefon, cipele i izveštaj o učinku Muntazera al Zejdija, a da je dobio sve osim cipela.
- Cipele su proverile iračke i američke službe bezbednosti, a onda su uništene tokom analize - dodao je irački sudija.
Al Zejdi, koji je radio za satelitsku televiziju Al Bagdadija, nalazi se u zatvoru, u kojem čeka suđenje, a preti mu kazna od sedam godina.
kako je nekim ljudima lako u životu :evil:
QuotePored toga, saudijski princ Hasan Mohamad Makhafa ponudio je 10 miliona dolara za famozni par Al Zejdijevih cipela.
Cipele koje su letele ka Busu su veoma trazena roba u ovo tesko vreme recesije. :)
Quote from: "Truba"kako je nekim ljudima lako u životu :evil:
gađaj i ti nekoga cipelom :)
Taj Bush, jbte kad ga vidim sa tom facom, simaptichan mi je ko neko majmunche, a najebo jadan, shiptari ga ojadili za sat, ovde ga gadjali cipelom, sta mu sve nisu radili - al nista njemu, kakvi refleksi, ovaj cigo da je bio pametan pa da je predvideo, pa da je drugi put gadjo malo nize pogodio bi ga tacno u glavushu - e to bi tek bio hit :D - ja mislim da nijedan americki predsednik nije tako bio ojadjen osim JFK-a , mada i Klinton je najebo, pa i Nikson se izblamiro, al cipela je cipela, bolje i metkom nego cipelom :lol:
Quote from: "Son of Man"ovaj cigo da je bio pametan pa da je predvideo, pa da je drugi put gadjo malo nize pogodio bi ga tacno u glavushu - e to bi tek bio hit :D -
to ti je problem sa ovima što oće da načine STEJTMENT: mogo je PRVO da ga strefi cipelom, pa ONDA da kenja: 'zlotvore, dušmanine, esencijo zla, sotono, uskovitlana srži svekolike gnjusi itd itd.'
međutim, ne – 'ciga' je morao prvo da sebično da oduška sebi, da se iskenja, skrene pažnju na sebe svojom tiradom, i time je dao dragoceni sekund ili dva dedi bušmanu, tako da je čak i taj postklimakterični polusenilni retardirani majmun mogao da se sagne na vreme.
kids, there's a lesson in it for you:
PRVO PUCAJ, ONDA KENJAJ!!!
8)
(ili, retorikom ovih navijača: NE PRIČAJ SA NJIM, NABODI GAAAA!!! :evil: )
Bus ima slabu tu sluzbu sto ga stiti cim je ovaj stigo da skine obe cipele i da obe baci, nesto ga ne gotive ti njegovi sto ga cuvaju, nisu pozrtvovani...za reagana se onaj bacio za metak a ovi ni cipelu da prime za Busa :( ...aj da je jedna nego dve, a ko zna sta bi bilo da je imo jos cipela :shock:
Quotekids, there's a lesson in it for you:
PRVO PUCAJ, ONDA KENJAJ!!!
Tako je! Za buduće cipeloatentatore obavezno je gledanje filma The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
Još jedna flash igrica:
http://www.sockandawe.com/
Amerikanci najavili da će da odvedu u Avganistan još bar 30 iljada vojnika. Sad je jasno zašto je Obama rekao da će da povuče vojsku iz Iraka. Nije zbog cipela, nego da ih stavi na drugo ratište.
S.P.E.K.T.A.K.L.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiWII-OD1GY
xdirec
Al-Zaidi: 'I'd Throw Shoes Again' While Sales of the Footwear Soar
Posted by Lisa Derrick, Firedoglake at 10:43 AM on December 22, 2008
The trial of shoe-throwing Iraqi journalist Muntazer al-Zaidi, charged with assaulting a foreign head of state visiting Iraq, begins Dec. 31. Abdul Satar Birqadr, spokesman for Iraq's High Judicial Council, said a three-judge panel would hear the case:
The case is not complicated, and I expect it won't take a great deal of time to reach a ruling.
U.S.-backed Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has condemned al-Zaidi's actions, but reportedly he will not want to alienate al-Zaidi's supporters: Provincial elections are next month. The prime minister met with Iraqi journalists Sunday, praising the media and pledging justice would run its course -- even if that meant al-Zaidi went free. Iraqi authorities will give the media full access to the trial, due in part to the worldwide interest and sensitivity of the case.
Al-Zaidi's brother said the reporter would toss footwear again if he had the chance. Reuters reports:
Uday al-Zaidi said his brother had told an investigative judge Sunday that he had expected to be shot after hurling his first shoe.
But when that did not happen, " 'that gave me time to throw the second (shoe),' " al-Zaidi quoted his brother. " 'If the clock were turned back, I'd do the same thing over again.' "
The journalist shows signs of have been beaten, his brother and lawyer report, and that his brother
had been tortured into telling the authorities that someone persuaded him to throw his shoes at Bush.
Meanwhile, Istanbul shoemaker Ramazan Baydan, who claims to have designed the black oxford known as Ducati Model 271 has seen his orders soar for what is now called "the Bush shoe." A British distributor placed an order for 95,000 pair, and a American company orderd 18,000 pair. Five thousand sales posters of the shoe with the slogan, "Goodbye Bush, Hello Democracy" in Turkish, Arabic and English are ready for distribution
Bush Shoe' Gives Firm a Footing in the Market
By SEBNEM ARSU
Published: December 20, 2008
ISTANBUL — When a pair of black leather oxfords hurled at President Bush in Baghdad produced a gasp heard around the world, a Turkish cobbler had a different reaction: They were his shoes.
"We have been producing that specific style, which I personally designed, for 10 years, so I couldn't have missed it, no way," said Ramazan Baydan, a shoemaker in Istanbul. "As a shoemaker, you understand."
Although his assertion has been impossible to verify — cobblers from Lebanon, China and Iraq have also staked claims to what is quickly becoming some of the most famous footwear in the world — orders for Mr. Baydan's shoes, formerly known as Ducati Model 271 and since renamed "The Bush Shoe," have poured in from around the world.
A new run of 15,000 pairs, destined for Iraq, went into production on Thursday, he said. A British distributor has asked to become the Baydan Shoe Company's European sales representative, with a first order of 95,000 pairs, and an American company has placed an order for 18,000 pairs. Four distributors are competing to represent the company in Iraq, where Baydan sold 19,000 pairs of this model for about $40 each last year.
Five thousand posters advertising the shoes, on their way to the Middle East and Turkey, proclaim "Goodbye Bush, Welcome Democracy" in Turkish, English and Arabic.
For now, Mr. Baydan's customers will have to take his word for it. The journalist who launched the shoes at a news conference a week ago, Muntader al-Zaidi, 29, was wrestled to the ground by guards and has not been seen in public since. Explosives tests by investigators destroyed the offending footwear.
But Mr. Baydan insists he recognizes his shoes. Given their light weight, just under 11 ounces each, and clunky design, he said he was amazed by their aerodynamics. Both shoes rocketed squarely at Mr. Bush's head and missed only because of deft ducks by the president.
Throwing a shoe at someone is a gross insult in Arab countries, and Mr. Bush is widely unpopular in much of the region. But as he enters his last weeks in office, he seems to have gained a small foothold of appreciation here.
Noting the spike in sales, Serkan Turk, Baydan's general manager, said, "Mr. Bush served some good purpose to the economy before he left."
U jednom od svojih postova povodom ove finansijske krize, Scallop je rekao da se, uprkos kosmickim gubicima, ni jedan od finansijera do sada nije ubio, kao sto se desavalo 29. E, pa, Scallope, evo ga jedan.
Francuski finansijer Thierry de La Villehuchet, 65 godina, izvrsio je samoubistvo u svojoj njujorskoj kancelariji. On se nalazio na celu preduzeca Access International koje se bavilo poverenim kapitalom od 2 milijarde evra (evropska klijentela). 1,5 milijarde bile su ulozene kod Madoffa i nestale su u onoj rupi od 50 milijardi dolara. Licni prijatelj Madoffa, on je i bio kod njega nekoliko dana pred hapsenje, te mu je Madoff potvrdio da ne brine o lovi, jer, za razliku od svih ostalih, kod njega je sve u odlicnom stanju.
Inace, Madoff, organizator najvece finasijske prevare u istoriji, posle hapsenja je pusten i nalazi se na slobodi, cekajuci na sudjenje gde ce se odluciti da li on ima ikakvu krivicu u prevari koju je organizovao. Ako se ustanovi da je kriv, kazna moze da bude globa od 5 miliona dolara i do 15 godina zatvora.
Uvek ima izuzetaka. A, baš je dobro uložio! Kod najboljeg prijatelja... Hej, imaš li neku ušteđevinu? Ima neki biznis gde bih mogao... :evil:
Ma, kako da ne... Samo trenutak...
Halo, Bing, imam jednog prijatelja koji bi da ulozi pare...
xrofl
Globalna kriza povećava nezaposlenost u EU
Ekonomska kriza dovodi do smanjenja sve većeg broja radnih mesta u zemljama EU. Kriza nezaposlenosti najviše će pogoditi Veliku Britaniju , Španiju i Irsku.
Evropska komisija očekuje da će globalna ekonomska kriza povećati nezaposlenost u zemljama Evropske unije za dva odsto, izjavio je danas evropski komesar za socijalna pitanja i zaposlenost Vladimir Špidla.
Komesar je u nedeljnoj debati češke javne televizije ČT izneo procenu da će kriza najteže pogoditi tržišta rada u Španiji, Velikoj Britaniji i Irskoj.
Prema podacima iz oktobra nezaposlenost je u EU u odnosu na septembar porasla za 0,1 odsto i dostigla 7,1 odsto.
Šef češke diplomatije Karel Švarcenberg je u toj debati potvrdio da će globalna ekonomska kriza i komplikacije koje donosi morati da budu noseća tema češkog predsedavanja.
Kriza vodi ka nacionalnom egoizmu
"Ekonomska kriza će se još produbiti tokom našeg predsedavanja i pred kraj će biti vrlo ozbiljna", rekao je Švarcenberg i dodao da će najteže biti da se očuva jedinstvo i solidarnost EU, a da tokom krize ne izbije nacionalni egoizam pojedinih članica.
Političari i analitičari u Srednjoj Evropi nadaju se da kriza neće pogoditi tako bolno Češku, Slovačku i Poljsku jer su kroz prvi talas - krizu finansijskog sektora, već prošle relativno bezbolno pošto je u tim članicama EU bankarstvo bilo na zdravijim osnovama i sa znatno manje rizičnih finansijskih instrumenata.
Dopuštaju, međutim, da region koji je inače nezdravo orijentisan na automobilsku industriju neće moći da izbegne negativne posledice recesije na Zapadu gde mahom izvozi svoju robu, a neće moći da izbegne ni posledice smanjenja stranih ulaganja.
Prema najavama iz poslednjih dana stare godine, samo automobilska industrija u Češkoj i Poljskoj sprema sa da otpusti po 13.500 hiljada radnika zbog smanjene potražnje za automobilima u svetu.
Svetska globalizacija po receptu investiranja nepostojećeg novca, mora za posledicu imati i svetsku recesiju.
Nekako mi se čini da to što praktično ništa nisu investirali kod nas, može da bude i dobra strana. Mene više brine što mi i dalje srljamo u tom pravcu. A, posebno, što budžet Beograda ima u planu da još tri naše pijace pretvori u "Zeleni Venac". To treba da razjuri seljake i da u prvi plan stavi supermarkete. Onda smo - nagraisali. Seljak će kod kuće da i dalje proizvodi, ali neće doći na pijacu. To na čemu smo preživljavali tolike decenije ima šanse da nestane.
Ima li neko ideju kako da grad Beograd ubedimo da odustane od tog zlodela?
Seljaci će i dalje prodavati svoju robu, samo ne lično. Prodavaće je nekome ko će da je pakuje i preprodaje supermarketima.
Quote from: "scallop"Ima li neko ideju kako da grad Beograd ubedimo da odustane od tog zlodela?
Imam ja... Neophodno je ubediti sve vodeće industrijske zemlje da odustanu od te iste ideje i da krenu u suprotnom pravcu. Grad Beograd će slediti svetske tendencije.
Quote from: "mac"Seljaci će i dalje prodavati svoju robu, samo ne lično. Prodavaće je nekome ko će da je pakuje i preprodaje supermarketima.
a novac će dobijati nakon 30 dana, drugim rečima, finansiraće supermarkete. Preživeće visokomehanizovana gazdinstva a mi ćemo jesti semafor paprike.
Quote from: "Kastor"Quote from: "mac"Seljaci će i dalje prodavati svoju robu, samo ne lično. Prodavaće je nekome ko će da je pakuje i preprodaje supermarketima.
a novac će dobijati nakon 30 dana, drugim rečima, finansiraće supermarkete. Preživeće visokomehanizovana gazdinstva a mi ćemo jesti semafor paprike.
Drago mi je što je Kastor shvatio. Globalizacija nas ne civilizuje, ona nas uniformiše.
Princip mondijalizacije (objasniću vam zašto upotrebljavam ovaj termin) je da se svi upoznamo, a ne da nosimo iste gaće. I da nam bude drago što smo različiti.
Dušan Makavejev je snimio istorijski najbolji film na svetu "Coca-Cola Kid". Napravio je najsrpskiji film u Australiji i pljunuo u lice globalizmu.
Hoću moje pijace! Hoću moje, a ne semafor paprike koje imaju ukus na semafor! Hoću da i Mac shvati! Cornelijus ne mora ništa da shvati, on je već otišao u suprotnom pravcu!
Quote from: "scallop"Cornelijus ne mora ništa da shvati, on je već otišao u suprotnom pravcu!
Cornelius je bio u još suprotnijem pravcu dok je živeo u Americi, pa se vratio za Francusku koja je delovala kao normalniji svet. Ali, para vrti di burgija neće... Vidim da nas je to pregazilo i da je $tiglo i u vaše malo mi$to.
Quote from: "scallop"Ima li neko ideju kako da grad Beograd ubedimo da odustane od tog zlodela? ...
Hoću moje pijace! Hoću moje, a ne semafor paprike koje imaju ukus na semafor! Hoću da i Mac shvati! Cornelijus ne mora ništa da shvati, on je već otišao u suprotnom pravcu!
Ne kukaj iz tople sobe i mekane fotelje, napravi plan, animiraj ljude i IDEMO NA ULICU!
To se tako radi
Quote from: "ayin"Ne kukaj iz tople sobe i mekane fotelje, napravi plan, animiraj ljude i IDEMO NA ULICU!
To se tako radi
Jel' to provokacija? Tebi ne bih verovao ni da se zamonašiš.
Ja ne kukam, ja URLAM! Da nemam previše posla i danas bih bio na pijaci. Da je malo bolje vreme, ustao bih iz mekane fotelje iz tople sobe i otišao do neke pijace. Malo smeta mom pejsmejkeru niska temperatura. Inače, poznajem više ljudi na Đeram, Kalenić, Palilulskoj i Bajlonovoj pijaci, nego ti uopšte. To je moj standardni krug. I znam koliko je Pariz izgubio sa
Les Halles, a šta znači odsustvo pijaca u SAD. Poznajem sve gradske pijace u Atini, Solunu i Volosu. Ja ljude upoznajem na pijacama. Da išta od toga znaš, znao bi gde je identitet jedne zemlje, a on je svuda napadnut od supermaketa o čijoj sudbini ćemo tek razmišljati, kad svetska kriza dopre do njih. Već danas možeš da kupiš dva automobila po ceni za jednog.
Imam ja plan, ali nemam s kim i gde da ga sprovedem. Svuda gde sam pisao, novine i TV nemaju vremena da se time bave. Nije
inn. I, ne rešavaju se problemi na ulici! Na ulici se pravi samo šteta. U vreme one budale Miloševića, želeo sam da onih milion ljudi koje je izveo na ulicu, ostanu u kućama, u toplim sobama i udobnim foteljama. Da vidim kako bi svet reagovao na - prazne ulice. Ali, to je teži put. Kada su uvodili embargo Sloveniji, ja sam želeo da angažujemo u Srbiji 6.000 profesora slovenačkog jezika. Pitali su me - zašto? Moj odgovor je bio - nek' se oni pitaju.
Ne diraj moje krugove, Ayine, jer nisi tome dorastao.
Defict SAD u narednim godinama i 1.000 milijardi
Novi predsednik SAD Barak Obama izjavio da će se SAD u predstojećim godinama suočiti sa ogromnim deficitom, i do 1.000 milijardi dolara, ali da je i dalje potrebna velika potrošnja za podsticaj ekonomije.
"Potencijalno imamo 1.000 milijardi dolara deficita u predstojećim godinama, čak i sa ekonomskim oporavkom na kom radimo", rekao je Obama novinarima nakon sastanka sa ekonomskim savetnicima.
Novi predsednik želi da Kongres odobri novi stimulacioni plan od 775 milijardi dolara.
Prošle fiskalne godine, koja je završila 30. septembra 2008, deficit je iznosio 455 milijardi dolara.
The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$3.15 billion per day since September 28, 2007!
Sad je novi predsednik otkrio rupu na saksiji.
SENZACIONALNO !!! Ispovest jednog bankrotiranog Amerikanca
"Here I sit in this big lonely dump, waiting for Christmas to pass! Bah! That silly season when everybody loves everybody else! A curse on it! Me—I'm different! Everybody hates me, and I hate everybody!" :!:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrooge_McDuck
Kako broj stanovnika u zemlji raste raste i potreba za efikasnijom distribucijom vode, hrane, energije, informacije, i svega ostalog. Zemlja nema izbora, demografski pritisak je primorava da bude efikasnija. Supermarketi su posledica toga. Ovo tugovanje za pijacom je isto kao tugovanje za nekom prastarom sortom breskve, grejanjem na ugalj, i vodom iz bunara. Jeste sve to dobro, ali toga vise nema.
Quote from: "mac"Kako broj stanovnika u zemlji raste raste i potreba za efikasnijom distribucijom vode, hrane, energije, informacije, i svega ostalog. Zemlja nema izbora, demografski pritisak je primorava da bude efikasnija. Supermarketi su posledica toga. Ovo tugovanje za pijacom je isto kao tugovanje za nekom prastarom sortom breskve, grejanjem na ugalj, i vodom iz bunara. Jeste sve to dobro, ali toga vise nema.
Mac, ti si jedan krajnje neobavešten čovek. Porediš babe i žabe, a tu matematiku nikad nećeš provući pored mene. Kad bi se Zemlja bavila samo životom, ne bismo morali da brinemo još hiljadu godina. Međutim, mi smo zaraženi ludilom koje se zove bogaćenje i supermaketi su produkt toga. Znaš li zašto su u EU krastavci pravi k'o strela? Zato što krive ne otkupljuju, ne uvoze... Takvi se krastavci - bacaju. To isto je radio otac moje tehničarke pre 30 godina u Vinči kod Topole: svinje su gazile jabuke u voćnjaku, a matori je gladio krpom 200 kila u štali, jer što bi nosio više na pijacu.
Kad kupiš na pijaci znaš da sve moraš da opereš. Kad kupiš u supermarketu, misliš da je oprano, pa onda gomile ljudi navuku salmonelu. Ne peru ni u lancima brze ishrane, pa se čas posla porazboljevaju. Tebe treba voditi na pijacu da shvatiš šta je to, pre nego što zauzmeš stavove, kao da su to fijoke na tvojoj polici.
Ja se maltretiram da vas naučim da se hranite, a vi ni na pijacu ne znate da odete!
Ovih dana se aktivirao malo i Covek iz Naroda, iliti Obama.
Malo je letuckao predsednickim avionom. Onda je izjavio da ga srce boli zbog zrtava u bliskoistocnom sukobu. Detaljnije ce se o tome izjasniti, veli, posle inauguracije. Dotad, ko prezivi u Gazi, pricace. Elem, posto je siroma jako osetljiv na narodne patnje, a svi znamo da ljudi cesto od stresa beze pojacavajuci ishranu, resio je da svrati u lokalnu hamburgeriju, i dobro se naklopa.
Sjajan potez. Time podstice domacu ekonomiju, i rast potrosnje, jer ce hamburgerije provetati kad ljudi nagrnu ne bi li videli predsednika. Ko zivi u Americi, i ima nesto kinte, sad je pravi trenutak da ulozi u hamburgere.
Sto se tice spoljne politike, resio je da se povlaci iz Iraka, i pozabavi mrskim talibanima. Jes da su nekad bili americki saveznici, i dobri momci, ali boze moj, menjaju se vremena..
Kaze Covek iz Naroda, da je Iran glavna pretnja nacionalnoj sigurnosti SAD. A ja nikako da skontam kako. Kako Iran koji je tehnoloski decenijama iza Amerike, ciju bi vojsku Ameri smazali za par nedelja, moze biti najveca pretnja ? Sta mogu da urade, napravice jednu atomsku, pa je baciti na NJujork ? Uostalom, nesto kontam, ko tu kome zaista preti, i ko koga okruzuje.
Pa nisu iranski vojnici u Meksiku i Kanadi, nego su americki u Iraku i Afganistanu, na granicama Irana. A da nije stvar u nafti, gasu, energentima ? Da u tom grmu ne lezi zec ? Da to nije pravi razlog iza price o nacionalnoj sigurnosti, atomskom oruzju, terorizmu, itd ?
Cujem, inaugaracija ce biti za Oskara. Sve popularni pevaci i javne licnosti, bice i gej svestenik. Pravi holivudski spektakl.
Glamurozan, sjajan, isprazan, bez duse. Amerika nastavlja starim putem, Amerika ne nudi nista novo. Veliki reformatori treba da rade, a ne da priredjuju medijske spektakle.
Na Zapadu nista novo..
Danas je Barakomanija i zvanicno pocela.
Na b92 samo sto nisu pali u trans povodom inauguracije.
Usput su tugaljivo i rezignirano konstatovali, da je Srbija mozda i jedina zemlja koju nije zahvatila Barakomanija, i da mladja srpska populacija radije gleda utakmice, umesto prenosa inauguracije.
Zakletvu je polozio i Bajden, dobro poznat ovdasnjoj javnosti.
Možda bi ti se više sviđalo da su pali u trans kada je BT ljubio leš Aleksija II? :evil: Iskuliraj malo!!!
Naopako da bi zbog toga padao u trans, ne praktikujem ljubljenje leseva :x .
Kao sto ne verujem ni u idole. Zbog cega bi to trebao da padam u trans zbog Obame ? Zbog toga sto je prvi crni predsednik u istoriji SAD ? Pa sta s tim ? Sta ce to bolje doneti mojoj zemlji ?
Raspitaj se malo, on je jos ranije podrzao bombardovanje i nezavisnost Kosova. Znaci, rasparcavanje ove zemlje. Zasto bi ga ja onda postovao ili voleo ? Pogledaj sastav njegove administracije, videces nekoliko ljudi koji su poznati kao zagovaraci ratova. Na osnovu cega verujes da ce on doneti promene svetu na bolje ? Pusti mi medijske spektakle, lepo napisane govore, ja u obecanja politicara slabo verujem. Verujem kad vidim dela.
Objasni mi argumentovano, kakve ce on to pozitivne promene doneti svetu, i konkretno nasoj zemlji ? Hoce li prestati politika ucena i ponizavanja ? Hoce li prestati naoruzavanje teroristickih formacija na Kosovu, koje sad krste drugim imenima ?
Ajd da vidimo, bas me zanima.
Quote from: "tiha voda"Hoce li prestati politika ucena i ponizavanja ? Hoce li prestati naoruzavanje teroristickih formacija na Kosovu, koje sad krste drugim imenima ?
Ajd da vidimo, bas me zanima.
Naravno
Nece
Crni batler je počeo svoju službu u jevrejskoj kući.
Ono juče je stvarno bila perverzija na svim domaćim kanalima.
Da su juče kojim slučajem sleteli vanzemaljci,svi mediji bi to ignorisali.
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Quote from: "EKSTREMISTA"Ono juče je stvarno bila perverzija na svim domaćim kanalima.
I na svim ostalim kanalima koji nisu domaći. Sve to spada u zakon političke balistike. Bum, ode sve u nebesa, a potom, majčica Zemlja učini svoje...
Quote from: "Cornelius"Quote from: "EKSTREMISTA"Ono juče je stvarno bila perverzija na svim domaćim kanalima.
I na svim ostalim kanalima koji nisu domaći. Sve to spada u zakon političke balistike. Bum, ode sve u nebesa, a potom, majčica Zemlja učini svoje...
A onda ćaća sunce učini svoje. :evil:
Quote from: "tiha voda"Naopako da bi zbog toga padao u trans, ne praktikujem ljubljenje leseva :x .
Kao sto ne verujem ni u idole. Zbog cega bi to trebao da padam u trans zbog Obame ? Zbog toga sto je prvi crni predsednik u istoriji SAD ? Pa sta s tim ? Sta ce to bolje doneti mojoj zemlji ?
Raspitaj se malo, on je jos ranije podrzao bombardovanje i nezavisnost Kosova. Znaci, rasparcavanje ove zemlje. Zasto bi ga ja onda postovao ili voleo ? Pogledaj sastav njegove administracije, videces nekoliko ljudi koji su poznati kao zagovaraci ratova. Na osnovu cega verujes da ce on doneti promene svetu na bolje ? Pusti mi medijske spektakle, lepo napisane govore, ja u obecanja politicara slabo verujem. Verujem kad vidim dela.
Objasni mi argumentovano, kakve ce on to pozitivne promene doneti svetu, i konkretno nasoj zemlji ? Hoce li prestati politika ucena i ponizavanja ? Hoce li prestati naoruzavanje teroristickih formacija na Kosovu, koje sad krste drugim imenima ?
Ajd da vidimo, bas me zanima.
Onaj narod/država koji/koja je početkom XX veka potpomagao/la teroriste da pod plaštom oslobođenja ubija tuđe, a bogami i svoje vladare, koji/koja je uvek bio/bila na suprotnoj strani kao ruski satelit ne može da očekuje ništa. A da ne govorimo o periodu SFRJ kada je vlast svim sredstvima podržavala arape u borbi protiv Izraela. Obama je pre svega Američki predsednik, nemamo mi šta da očekujemo od njega. Kao ni od Medveđeg Puta iz Kremlja.
Ja sam bio ubedjen da su upadanje u škole i masakriranje nedužne dece, samo američki specijalitet, vidjen već toliko puta kao posledica njihovog ludila. Medjutim, vidim da je amerikanizacija na delu, te da se njihovi običaji izvoze po svetu.
Danas je jedan Belgijanac, star 20 godina, upao u jaslice jednog gradića na severu Belgije, i nožem od 30 cm krenuo da bode i kolje decu staru od 6 meseci do 3 godine. Ubio je dvoje dece i jednu vaspitačicu, a još troje dece se nalazi u životnoj opasnosti. Kada je bio uhvaćen, saznalo se da nije bio nadrogiran, nije bio pijan, da nema dosije u policiji, niti da je bio lečen kod psihijatra.
Pa ja sam to upravo i rekao, da je on americki predsednik.
I naravno da ga boli uvo za Srbiju, on se bori da povrati ne moc, nego pre svega ugled imperiji ciji je predsednik.
Opet te pitam, sta mi imamo od toga, i zbog cega bi se radovao
njegovom izboru, navedi mi jedan racionalan razlog.
Ne znam na koje teroriste s pocetka dvadesetog veka mislis, koje je Srbija podrzavala. Ako mislis na Gavrila Principa, onda si omasio. On nije nikakav terorista. On je rodjen u selu Obljaj kod Bosanskog Grahova, i nije on dosao kao okupator u Bec, nego je AUSTROUGARSKA MONARHIJA OGNJEM I MACEM, TJ. SILOM, DOSLA U NJEGOVU ZEMLJU. Vladar koga je on ubio, nije bio prosveceni monarh, nego OKUPATOR.
Quote from: "tiha voda"Pa ja sam to upravo i rekao, da je on americki predsednik.
I naravno da ga boli uvo za Srbiju, on se bori da povrati ne moc, nego pre svega ugled imperiji ciji je predsednik.
Opet te pitam, sta mi imamo od toga, i zbog cega bi se radovao
njegovom izboru, navedi mi jedan racionalan razlog.
Ne znam na koje teroriste s pocetka dvadesetog veka mislis, koje je Srbija podrzavala. Ako mislis na Gavrila Principa, onda si omasio. On nije nikakav terorista. On je rodjen u selu Obljaj kod Bosanskog Grahova, i nije on dosao kao okupator u Bec, nego je AUSTROUGARSKA MONARHIJA OGNJEM I MACEM, TJ. SILOM, DOSLA U NJEGOVU ZEMLJU. Vladar koga je on ubio, nije bio prosveceni monarh, nego OKUPATOR.
Ne mislim na Gavrila Principa!!!! Nego na Dragutina Dimitirijevića, na Ciganovića i njima slične koji su iskoristili idealizam Gavrila Principa i drugih zaverenika.
Treba se setiti kako su neki domaći politički krugovi mnogo očekivali i od Klintona,a onda-bombardovanje,posle su se ,stidljivije
doduše,radovali i Bušu ,a znamo kako se i to završilo.Svaki čovek koji dogura do toga da posatane predsednik Sjedinjenih džava je nosilac jednog te istog političkog cilja,unapredjenja veličine sopstvene zemlje.Naravno da je tako i u drugim zeljama.
Inače ono sa početka20.veka spada u sasvim drugačiji politički sklop.To je vreme tajnih društava koja su koristila političke atentate,a ne terorizam,kao metod političke borbe.
Quote from: "akhnaton"
Ne mislim na Gavrila Principa!!!! Nego na Dragutina Dimitirijevića, na Ciganovića i njima slične koji su iskoristili idealizam Gavrila Principa i drugih zaverenika.
cue - varvarin ulazi
:lol:
Игор Панарин: Обама је исто што и Горбачов
Игор Панарин, руски академик и декан Дипломатске академије у Москви, текстом у "Волстрит џорналу" и интервјуом на телевизији Си-Ен-Ен у новогодишњој ноћи, изазвао је буру реаговања у целом свету. Његов текст у коме предвиђа скори распад Сједињених Америчких Држава преведен је готово на све језике, прочитали су га милиони људи, а само у Кини је објављен у 60 новина и часописа.
Бивши аналитичар КГБ-а, кога зову на све стране да објасни своје ставове, управо је позван на заседање економског форума у Давосу, а "Волстрит џорнал" је за фебруар наручио нови текст у коме ће објавити његове предлоге за излазак из светске економске кризе. НИН је још почетком децембра прошле године објавио интервју са Панарином у руској "Известији", од којег је и почело велико интересовање за руског академика.
Са доктором Панарином разговарали смо на дан инаугурације Барака Обаме. Очекивања од новог америчког председника су, зато, неизбежна тема:
- Барак Обама има невиђени рејтинг у Америци – 84 посто. То је заиста веома много, али ће бити кратког даха. Већ у априлу ће почети колапс америчког финансијског система и већини Американаца ће постати јасно да Обама не може да уради апсолутно ништа. Он је пи-ар председник, средство да се пажња Американаца одвуче од кризе.
Шта значи пи-ар председник данас кад је пи-ар постао обавезан део сваке председничке кампање?
- Ову акцију су планирали и наручили најутицајнији људи у Америци. Ја сам летос био у Вашингтону и видео да се испред Белог дома продају мајице и капе, али само са Обамом. Свуда се говорило само о њему, Мекејна уопште није било. Схватио сам да су избори били већ одлучени и заинтересовао сам се зашто баш Обама. Убрзо сам схватио. Нови амерички председник лепо говори и веома подсећа на Горбачова. Уосталом, и улога му је слична, да ,,омекша" распад САД онолико колико је то могуће, а ако не успеју покушаји спасавања америчког финансијског система, да се све свали на њега. Није професионалац, није компетентан, и слично. Ситуација ће се одвијати као у СССР-у само што је нама за распад било потребно шест година а у САД ће то бити урађено у интервалу од годину и по. Дошло је до убрзања, информационе технологије су достигле велике висине, а високи рејтинг гарантује и брзи пад.
Ипак, цео свет у њега полаже велике наде, а популарност у свету му је готово равна популарности у САД.
- Да, добра пи-ар акција. Један од циљева је био и снижавање нивоа антиамериканизма у свету и одвлачење пажње од економских проблема. И на мене је у почетку оставио веома позитиван утисак, лепо је говорио, врло разумно. Пратио сам даље, све исто, никаквих нових предлога. Све више ме је подсећао на Горбачова. И кад је Горбачов дошао на власт, изгледало је то многима, укључујући и мене, добро, али после пола године је постало јасно да су речи биле лепе, али усмерене на распад земље.
Све се сваљује на Горбачова, мада је тешко поверовати да је он сам растурио СССР; многи су му, укључујући и Јељцина, у томе помогли. Ни Обама неће моћи сам; ко ће њему помоћи да растури САД?
- Њему не треба помоћ. Ствар је у томе што СССР није имао објективне услове за распад, а у САД они постоје. Горбачов их је сам створио, за шест година је повећао спољашњи дуг пет пута. А Обама долази кад је амерички дуг већ 11,5 трилиона долара. И не зна шта с тим да ради. Њему ће помоћи његов неспособни тим. Сарадници које је изабрао ништа не могу да ураде. То је Клинтонов губитнички тим. Познато је да је Клинтон после распада СССР-а требало да предложи свету и Сједињеним Државама нову идеолошку конструкцију света, и није успео, завршио је свој мандат ратом у Југославији. Ни Хилари, која је упропастила здравствени систем Америке, неће моћи да изађе на крај са дужношћу државног секретара.
Можда ће Обама учинити оно што Клинтон није умео?
- Тешко. Он за то нема ни знање ни образовање, ни руководеће искуство, ни у спољној ни у унутрашњој политици, ни сараднике. Такав човек није у стању да руководи Америком у кризи. Симболично је што се труди да иде путем Линколна кога су убили! Ваљда зато стално налазе неке људе који хоће да убију Обаму, готово сваке недеље некога хапсе... То је такође деловање на јавно мњење.
Обама је замрзао неке Бушове одлуке, најављује промене. Мислите ли да ће се нешто променити у односима између Руске Федерације и САД?
- То је врло тешко рећи, зато што није јасан однос снага у Обамином окружењу. Госпођа Клинтон мрзи Обаму; у предизборној кампањи су толико вређали једно друго да је чудно да још могу и да се рукују. Сви остали сарадници потпуно су непредвидиви. Мислим да је Русија добро искористила ту ситуацију и покренула низ иницијатива, међу којима су и предлози у вези са противракетном одбраном. Сад чекамо одговор.
Обама преиспитује и ту одлуку. Очекујете ли да, с обзиром на кризу, и декларисану спремност да чује и руски став, нови председник ипак одустане од ПРО у Европи?
- То су наше жеље, али је тешко рећи шта ће стварно бити. Кад је Буш постао председник, он је имао доброг помоћника за Русију, Томаса Грена, који му је направио анализу руско–америчких односа с којом смо могли да се сложимо или не, али она је постојала. Сада тога нема и тешко ми је да замислим какви ће бити односи две земље. Сумњам да је са америчке стране могућа било каква усаглашена спољна политика. Његови сарадници нису у стању да му предложе никаква решења. То је ужасно зато што земља има атомско оружје и највећу армију на свету. Очигледно је да после краха Волстрита и пораста незапослености, после краха аутомобилске индустрије, они не могу адекватно да оцене ситуацију у којој су се нашли.
И још их ви плашите својим песимистичким прогнозама...
- Уплашили су се они још 1998, кад сам наступао у Аустрији на међународној конференцији ,,Информациони рат". Сви су били у шоку, али прошло је 10 година, а они су и даље у шоку; просто нису у стању да прихвате ту информацију. Можда су моји ставови сувише радикални, али ја не видим друге. Нек неко каже да ће до те и те године САД бити најјача земља на свету. Али то не каже нико. Нико се не усуђује да ступи у полемику са мном. А оних који сматрају да сам у праву, има, и они ми пишу. То су пре свега Американци који виде да Америка иде ка распаду.
Као разлог за распад наводите економску кризу. Али она није погодила само Америку...
- Економска криза је само врхунац проблема и тренутак одакле ће се све обрушити. Али као и пре 10 година, и данас постоје три фактора за распад САД. Први је психолошки јер Американци живе у стресу, стално су у дугу, стално од некога зависе. Америку је до сада повезивао страх, а не никакав патриотизам. Ситуација се са кризом погоршала, надзиратељи више нису онако јаки и не могу да држе у стању страха огроман број људи. Други узрок је раст антиамериканизма, који је увек постојао, али је после осам година председника Буша драстично порастао и то мора да утиче на психичко стање Американаца. Али основни разлог је, наравно, економски. Систем који је трајао око 200 година, више не може да опстане. Америка је требало да се распадне још двадесетих година, али је, захваљујући Другом светском рату, опстала. И у читавом послератном периоду тај систем је био спонзорисан малим ратовима.
Што значи да и сада неко може да потражи спас у трећем светском рату?
- Мислим да то више није могуће, иако су била предузета већ два покушаја. Индопакистански конфликт је био провокација с циљем да се изазове атомски рат између Индије и Пакистана, као што су и ови догађаји на Блиском истоку очигледно провокациони, с циљем да увуку Египат, Иран, Сирију и друге земље. Али други геополитички играчи схватају сву опасност те игре. Био је и покушај рата против Ирана али није успео јер су војници и обавештајне службе САД били против. Рат никоме није потребан, осим оних сила које покушавају да спасу власт долара.
Да ли је могуће спасити долар?
- Америка сада има проблем да одлучи како даље. Њихов први покушај ће бити да преваре цео свет. То треба да уради Обама и ја мислим да ће 1. јула 2009. покушати да укину долар и да уведу амер. Онда ће Американцима валуту мењати у односу један према један, а целом свету један према хиљаду. То је покушај да се спаси Америка а да цео свет остане у минусу. Друга варијанта је терористички акт на територији САД, при чему ће се, на пример, код терористе наћи сто долара, па ће зато забранити употребу тих новчаница док, рецимо, ФБИ не нађе извор финансирања. Америка неће имати штете јер тих новчаница готово да и нема у САД. Тамо се плаћа картицама и користи само ситан новац. Оне се штампају за иностранство. Тако ће бити кажњен цео свет. Они сад размишљају који од тих начина да искористе, каква ће бити реакција света на превару...
Ако економска криза води распаду, шта ће бити са Русијом? Хоће ли се и она распасти? И овде се осећа криза.
- Не, Русија се неће распасти. За то нема услова. Ипак, она ће бити у тешкој ситуацији све до распада САД, односно док оне уђу у фазу колапса, а то ће бити већ у априлу. Да, криза не само да се осећа, ситуација је све гора и Русија је сад главна жртва. То има везе с тим што и у Русији постоје снаге које се оријентишу, нажалост, на америчке стандарде. Наша криза је повезана с тим што те снаге покушавају да спасу САД од распада.
Како?
- Путем учвршћивања долара. Ја већ пола године говорим да морамо све уговоре да потписујемо у рубљама. Нажалост, однос снага је такав да то не може да се оствари. Код нас постоји јак проамерички талас који нас може довести до краха. Наши финансијски аналитичари који се оријентишу на америчке глобалисте, воде земљу у пропаст. Наши економски стручњаци воде државу, свесно или несвесно по шеми 1998. Да би смањила последице економског колапса Америке, Русија мора да развија рубљу као националну валуту. Да формира праву нафтну берзу која продаје нафту за рубље. Мора да прекине конопце који је везују за тај Титаник (САД).
Занимљиво је да се цео свет, укључујући и Русију, бори против кризе истим средствима као Америка. И да нико, очигледно, није измислио лек за кризу.
- Није тачно да није измислио. Ја јесам. Недавно сам био у Кини. Тамо очекују распад САД али га се и боје јер је у Америци њихов новац, и јер тамо продају своју робу. Они су веома заинтересовани за превазилажење кризе. Ја сам им предложио да разрадимо заједничке мере. Они се слажу да без Русије Кина не може да се ефикасно развија у 21. веку и само са Русијом може да обезбеди даљу стабилност. Американци са Кином послују као што су својевремено са Индијанцима – за боцу ,,ватрене воде", или за огрлицу од стаклених перли, куповали су острва, земљу, све што су хтели. Данас од Кинеза за безвредне папире, новчанице које немају никакво покриће, фактички бесплатно, добијају све што желе. Томе мора доћи крај. Мој модел је врло прост – пренос финансијског центра из САД у Кину и РФ на четири места – у Хонгконг, Шангај, Владивосток и Москву, и неке измене на геополитичкој карти света. Држава број један у 21. веку биће Кина.
А где ће бити Русија?
- Русија ће бити одмах до ње. Биће то симбиоза интелекта и фабрике. До сада је то била симбиоза фабрике (Кина) и профита (Америка). Логика САД је била: ви радите, а ми вам дајемо посао. Али, то је противуречило унутрашњем бићу Кинеза, тридесетогодишњи циклус таквих односа је завршен, и Кина сад мора да размишља шта даље. Они су веома заинтересовани да са Русијом формирају експертни механизам за израду новог модела света. Могу им се прикључити и Индија, Француска, Немачка, Бразил... Експертска организација треба у ово пола године, колико је остало до распада Америке, да започне дискусију како да се тај распад не догоди по југословенском сценарију, него мирно, по сценарију Чехословачке.
НИН, 29.01.2009. Разговарала: Љубинка Милинчић
Sve zna taj Rus, a ne zna samo da kaže na šta će se to raspasti Amerika. Koje su to nacionalne sile koje vuku svaka na svoju stranu? Jedino mi padaju na pamet Nju Meksiko, Arizona, i Havaji. To je toliko sitno, da ni sami stanovnici tih država neće mnogo insistirati na razdvajanju. Oni nemaju slučaj Čeha i Slovaka, ili Hrvata i Srba, nemaju dve ravnopravne sile. Ovaj Rus preteruje, i vodi neku svoju politiku.
Quote from: "mac"Sve zna taj Rus, a ne zna samo da kaže na šta će se to raspasti Amerika. Koje su to nacionalne sile koje vuku svaka na svoju stranu? Jedino mi padaju na pamet Nju Meksiko, Arizona, i Havaji. To je toliko sitno, da ni sami stanovnici tih država neće mnogo insistirati na razdvajanju. Oni nemaju slučaj Čeha i Slovaka, ili Hrvata i Srba, nemaju dve ravnopravne sile. Ovaj Rus preteruje, i vodi neku svoju politiku.
Što se babi snilo to joj je i milo. :twisted:
Ko o čemu babe o dedinom čepu. Koji se ne diže. :evil:
Na severnoameričkom kontinentu nema nacionalnih podela ni pokreta ,pošto je starosedelačko stanovništvo tog kontinenta ionako gotovo istrebljeno.Francuzi su pokušali sa stvaranje nacionalne države na teritoriji Kanade ,ali to nije slavno prošlo.
Sjedinjene države su izgradile model nenacionalnog patriotizma koji kod njih funkcioniše.Problem je kaa se taj model pokušava da naturi drugima,naročito ako je u pitanju Evropa.
Quote from: "slavkod"Na severno američkom kontinentu nema nacionalnih podela ni pokreta ,pošto je starosedelačko stanovništvo tog kontinenta ionako gotovo istrebljeno.Francuzi su pokušali sa stvaranje nacionalne države na teritoriji Kanade ,ali to nije slavno prošlo.
Sjedinjene države su izgradile model nenacionalnog patriotizma koji kod njih funkcioniše.Problem je kaa se taj model pokušava da naturi drugima,naročito ako je u pitanju Evropa.
Misliš posebno ako je u pitanju сербиа?
Ne, nisam uopšte mislio na Srbiju,koja je u potpuno drugoj kategoriji.Mislio sam na Češku i Slovačku koje su posle izlaska iz komunističkog patronata ,bez obzira na svoje zajedničko iskustvo od Austrougarske pa kasnije,odlučile da nastave život kao samostalne države.Takodje sam mislio i na Valonce i Flamance koje imaju beskrajno duge podvojenosti ali ih zajedno drži kraljevina koja je Belgijska.Mislio sam i na Švajcarsku koja ima četiri jezika i narod koji je deo tri različite velike kulture,nemačke,francuske i italijanske,ali uporno insistira na švajcarskom nacionalnom identitetu.Može da se nabraja još,ali nema potrebe.
Nabasah slučajno na ovaj forum, i na ovu temu na njemu:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=504903
Tiče se ekonomskog plana koji promoviše Džon Stjuart (komični voditelj Daily Showa). Sviđa mi se kako ljudi iznose mišljenja, i kako je svaki post upotrebljiv. Ipak moderacija na forumu donosi i neke dobrobiti.
Quote from: "mac"Sve zna taj Rus, a ne zna samo da kaže na šta će se to raspasti Amerika. Koje su to nacionalne sile koje vuku svaka na svoju stranu? Jedino mi padaju na pamet Nju Meksiko, Arizona, i Havaji. To je toliko sitno, da ni sami stanovnici tih država neće mnogo insistirati na razdvajanju. Oni nemaju slučaj Čeha i Slovaka, ili Hrvata i Srba, nemaju dve ravnopravne sile. Ovaj Rus preteruje, i vodi neku svoju politiku.
Ne misli se naravno na nacionalne već na socijalne nemire u kojima će osim klasnog, i rasni odnosno etnički sastav američkog stanovništva imati važnu ulogu.
A kao i uvek do sada kada su svetski bankari izazivali ekonomske krize,za njihovo prevazilaženje kao i sa sprečavanje njihovog ponavljanja, biće ponudjeno ,,rešenje,, u
vidu još jedne od institucija koji nas približavaju Svetkoj vladi.
Praćeno naravno novim, još represivnijim merama ograničenja ljudskih sloboda što će se kao i uvek do sada pravdati potrebom da se u budućnosti izbegnu novi ratovi ili teroristički napadi koje se upravo sa tim ciljem i izazivaju.
Ekonomske krize sa početka 20.veka bile su izgovor za uvođenje Federalnih rezervi,ratovi za Društvo naroda pa UN,hladni rat i konfrontacija sa SSSRom-za NATO,11.septembar za tzv borbu protiv terorizma i čitav niz protivustavnih akata kojima se krše čovekova prava i slobode (tzv Patriotski akt u USA,)lične karte sa čipovima,borba protiv kriminala za kamere na svakom koraku na šta se ljudi navikavaju i preko Velikog brata.Naviknite se da je sasvim normalno da vas gledaju dok ste u krevetu sa ženom,doj jedete ili dok ste na WC šolji.Kad vam to postane potpuno normalno,nećete ni pomisliti da se usprotivite kad budu počinjalii da vam ugrađuju čip u telo.
Kao što piše u Protokolima:
"Problem – reakcija – solucija, je naša strategija. Taj novi svetski poredak će biti solucija, odnosno, rešenje za problem koji ćemo mi sami napraviti, a to će biti – haos, a kad nastane haos, doći će do takve reakcije ovaca da će nas ove moliti da ga zaustavimo po svaku cenu."
U vezi sa aktuelnim dešavanjima na severnoameričkom kontinentu evo šta je još 1984.predvideo Džek Bernštajn,koji naravno nije prorok već hrabri jevrejski intelektualac koji je zbog svojg anticionizma likvidiran od strane Mosada:
"U jednom momentu za vrijeme tog rata, kada američka vojska postane duboko uronjena u taj rat i američki gradani počnu da se demorališu, cionistički orjentisani jevrejski internacionalni bankari će preduzeti idući korak. Postoji mnogo indikacija da upravo ti bankari posjeduju većinu sredstava Američke Banke Federalnih Rezervi, Američke Centralne Banke. Sa jedne takve pozicije, cionistički bankari mogu, i vjerovatno hoće, da izazovu ekonomski kolaps Amerike, isto kao što su to učinili 1929.g., kada su prouzrokovali slom berze i ekonomsku depresiju, 30-tih godina prošlog vijeka."
"S obzirom da novčani sistem koji se trenutno koristi u Americi nije baziran na zlatu, srebru, odnosno, ni na čemu od neke vrijednosti, papirne novčanice i metalni novac neće imati nikakve vrijednosti. Kao rezultat konfuzije koja će nakon toga da uslijedi i nastojanja da se domogne hrane i drugih potrepština, američki narod će prihvatiti "Novi Državni Ustav" koji je već odavno pripremljen. On će podvrguti američki narod diktaturi tzv. svjetske vlade, novog svjetskog poretka, koja će biti pod kontrolom cionistički orjentisanih internacionalnih bankara i jevreja cionističko-boljsevičke orjentacije."
Protokoli:
"Улога либералних утописта биће дефинитивно одиграна када наша влада буде призната. Дотле ће нам они послужити као добре слуге..."
"Ко ће посумњати тада да смо све ове проблеме ми били удесили и наместили према политичком плану који нико није открио у току многих векова?!"
Zbog svega navedenog,ne treba da nas iznenadi prvi korak koji će se preduteti na sev.američkom kontinentu a pod izgovorom izlaska iz krize i spasavanja posrnulog dolara a to je konačna realizacija plana o uspostavljanju Severnoameričke unije i uvođenje Amera.
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Sjevernoamerička unija, koja bi zamijenila SAD, do sada je bila samo teorija umotana u veo tajne, a administracija predsjednika Busha nekoliko je godina poricala da se radi o stvarnom planu.
Rad na superdržavi započeo je još u ožujku 2005. godine kad su se u Texasu sastali američki predsjednik Bush, kanadski premijer Paul Martin i meksički Vincent Fox. Dogovorili su se da će uspostaviti Sjevernoameričku uniju do 2010. godine, te potpisali SPP, ugovor o sigurnosnom partnerstvu tih triju država.
Plan, koji je bio još samo jedna od teorija zavjera, isplivao je na površinu, a oni koji su čuvali tajnu, nisu objasnili koji su bili razlozi tome. Sjevernoamerička unija, ili superdržava, kako je neki nazivaju, postala je temom u Kongresu.
Busheva administracija djelovala tajno
Busheva administracija tajno je predstavila unapređenje NAFTE ili sporazuma o slobodnoj trgovini.
NAFTA ili Sjevernoamerički sporazum o slobodnoj trgovini (North American Free Trade Agreement) je uz Europsku uniju najznačajnija kontinentalna integracija. Djeluje od 1994. godine, a čine je SAD, Kanada i Meksiko.
Cilj integracije je uspostava najveće zone slobodne trgovine u svijetu koja bi trebala obuhvatiti cijelu zapadnu hemisferu. Članice NAFTA-e zalažu se za ukidanje carina i svih ograničenja za protok kapitala i usluga, usklađivanje radnog zakonodavstva i ekoloških standarda te za zaštitu intelektualnog vlasništva.
Članstvom u integraciji Kanada i Meksiko dobili su pristup američkom tržištu, a kompanije iz SAD-a slobodu djelovanja.
Superautocesta povezivat će SAD, Meksiko i Kanadu
Plan o uspostavi Sjevernoameričke unije uključivao je i superautocestu koja povezuje Kanadu, SAD i Meksiko, a jedini koji se javno pobunio protiv plana bio je Ron Paul, kandidat koji je izbačen iz utrke. U ožujku 2006. godine sastanak je ponovo održan u Meksiku, a 2007. u Kanadi. Dogovoreni su još konkretniji ciljevi i zadaće koji bi prethodili konačnom ujedinjenju.
Superdržava s potpunom kontrolom nad stanovnicima
Tri zemlje naporno su radile na uspostavljanju kvalitetnog prometa na temelju sjevernoameričkog sporazuma o slobodnoj trgovini NAFTA.
Koliko će nova država biti moćna govori i sama činjenica o velikom broju stanovnika i površini koju zauzimaju tri zemlje združene u jednu.
Kanada je druga najveća država na svijetu odmah poslije Rusije, gdje živi oko 32 milijuna ljudi. To je zemlja bogata prirodnim ljepotama i jedna od vodećih država svijeta po standardu življenja.
U Meksiku živi 109 milijuna i to je 11 država na svijetu po broju stanovnika, a s površinom od gotovo 2 milijuna kvadratnih kilometara, peta država po veličini u Americi i četrnaesta u svijetu, dok u SAD-u živi nevjerojatnih 300 milijuna ljudi.
Sve što je tajno izaziva određeni strah, pa tako i nova superdržava. Pojavila su se nagađanja da će Sjevernoamerička unija funkcionirati na temelju apsolutističke vladavine, s potpunom kontrolom nad svojim stanovnicima.
Amerikanci se boje meksičkih doseljenika
Koliko će brisanje granica zadovoljiti Amerikance veliko je pitanje, koje očito nikoga ne zanima baš pretjerano. Stanovnici Kanade, Meksika i SAD-a moći će nesmetano putovati tim trima zemljama i zadržati se koliko god žele, jer će biti građani samo jedne države. Amerikanci se naravno boje meksičkih doseljenika, koji više neće biti imigranti već legalni stanovnici sa svim pravima.
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Dolar odlazi u istoriju - uvodi se Amero
Dolar je u opasnosti od propadanja zbog finansijske nestabilnosti u svetu, pada cene nafte i američkog inostranog duga.
Američki dolar uskoro bi trebao biti zamenjen novom valutom amero, javlja ruska Pravda. Fotografije novčanice pojavile su se na ruskim internet stranicama. Amero bi bio zajednička valuta Severnoameričke unije u kojoj bi se nalazile SAD, Kanada i Meksiko.
Izgledom bi amero odudarao od dolara. Za razliku od portreta predsednika, amero će sadržati jelena na novčanici od 50 i piramidu američkih indijanaca na novčanici od 100.
Dolar u opasnosti od propadanja
Zbog nestabilne finansijske situacije u svetu, pada cena nafte i američkog inostranog duga, dolar, kao najveća svetska valuta, je u opasnosti od propadanja. Vlasti u SAD-u odbacuju glasine i obećavaju da će držati dolar u opticaju.
Zagovornici "teorije zavere" veruju da vlade SAD-a, Kanade i Meksika već preduzimaju korake u implementaciji takve valute kao dela Severnoamerička unije koju je Bušova administracija utemeljila 2005. godine.
Amero kao valuta sledi model evra, a kao ideju predstavio ju je kanadski ekonomista Herbert G. Grubel u knjizi "The Case for the Amero" 1999. godine kada je i evro postao efektivna valuta.
Kanadski institut C.D. Howe također je zagovarao kreiranje zajedničke valute između Kanade i SAD-a. Kad je izveštaj izašao u javnost, kanadski nacionalisti su izjavili nezadovoljstvo zbog zajedničke valute koja bi Americi poslužila da iskorišćava kanadske prirodne resurse.
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Naravno i na globalnom nivou preduzeti su prvi koraci,za sada su tu samo izjave da se raja na vreme pripremi:
Generalni direktor Svetske trgovinske organizacije (STO) Paskal Lami smatra da je svetu neophodna čvrsta globalna regulacija finansijskih tržišta i zalaže se za stvaranje jednog globalnog svetskog organa koji bi se bavio finansijama sa ciljem da ubuduće spreči ekonomske potrese.
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Lami smatra da bi svaka zemlja u sadašnjoj složenoj situaciji trebalo da uvaži predlog za međunarodnu regulaciju finansijskih tržišta, uprkos tome što će to predstavljati i odgovarajuće ograničavanje njihovog suvereniteta.
I ona nemačka babuskera Merkelova je izjavila slično u Davosu pa ćemo narenih meseci moći da pratimo dalju razradu tog plana.
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Quote from: "EKSTREMISTA"Quote from: "mac"Sve zna taj Rus, a ne zna samo da kaže na šta će se to raspasti Amerika. Koje su to nacionalne sile koje vuku svaka na svoju stranu? Jedino mi padaju na pamet Nju Meksiko, Arizona, i Havaji. To je toliko sitno, da ni sami stanovnici tih država neće mnogo insistirati na razdvajanju. Oni nemaju slučaj Čeha i Slovaka, ili Hrvata i Srba, nemaju dve ravnopravne sile. Ovaj Rus preteruje, i vodi neku svoju politiku.
Ne misli se naravno na nacionalne već na socijalne nemire u kojima će osim klasnog, i rasni odnosno etnički sastav američkog stanovništva imati važnu ulogu.
A kao i uvek do sada kada su svetski bankari izazivali ekonomske krize,za njihovo prevazilaženje kao i sa sprečavanje njihovog ponavljanja, biće ponudjeno ,,rešenje,, u
vidu još jedne od institucija koji nas približavaju Svetkoj vladi.
Praćeno naravno novim, još represivnijim merama ograničenja ljudskih sloboda što će se kao i uvek do sada pravdati potrebom da se u budućnosti izbegnu novi ratovi ili teroristički napadi koje se upravo sa tim ciljem i izazivaju.
Ekonomske krize sa početka 20.veka bile su izgovor za uvođenje Federalnih rezervi,ratovi za Društvo naroda pa UN,hladni rat i konfrontacija sa SSSRom-za NATO,11.septembar za tzv borbu protiv terorizma i čitav niz protivustavnih akata kojima se krše čovekova prava i slobode (tzv Patriotski akt u USA,)lične karte sa čipovima,borba protiv kriminala za kamere na svakom koraku na šta se ljudi navikavaju i preko Velikog brata.Naviknite se da je sasvim normalno da vas gledaju dok ste u krevetu sa ženom,doj jedete ili dok ste na WC šolji.Kad vam to postane potpuno normalno,nećete ni pomisliti da se usprotivite kad budu počinjalii da vam ugrađuju čip u telo.
Kao što piše u Protokolima:
"Problem – reakcija – solucija, je naša strategija. Taj novi svetski poredak će biti solucija, odnosno, rešenje za problem koji ćemo mi sami napraviti, a to će biti – haos, a kad nastane haos, doći će do takve reakcije ovaca da će nas ove moliti da ga zaustavimo po svaku cenu."
U vezi sa aktuelnim dešavanjima na severnoameričkom kontinentu evo šta je još 1984.predvideo Džek Bernštajn,koji naravno nije prorok već hrabri jevrejski intelektualac koji je zbog svojg anticionizma likvidiran od strane Mosada:
"U jednom momentu za vrijeme tog rata, kada američka vojska postane duboko uronjena u taj rat i američki gradani počnu da se demorališu, cionistički orjentisani jevrejski internacionalni bankari će preduzeti idući korak. Postoji mnogo indikacija da upravo ti bankari posjeduju većinu sredstava Američke Banke Federalnih Rezervi, Američke Centralne Banke. Sa jedne takve pozicije, cionistički bankari mogu, i vjerovatno hoće, da izazovu ekonomski kolaps Amerike, isto kao što su to učinili 1929.g., kada su prouzrokovali slom berze i ekonomsku depresiju, 30-tih godina prošlog vijeka."
"S obzirom da novčani sistem koji se trenutno koristi u Americi nije baziran na zlatu, srebru, odnosno, ni na čemu od neke vrijednosti, papirne novčanice i metalni novac neće imati nikakve vrijednosti. Kao rezultat konfuzije koja će nakon toga da uslijedi i nastojanja da se domogne hrane i drugih potrepština, američki narod će prihvatiti "Novi Državni Ustav" koji je već odavno pripremljen. On će podvrguti američki narod diktaturi tzv. svjetske vlade, novog svjetskog poretka, koja će biti pod kontrolom cionistički orjentisanih internacionalnih bankara i jevreja cionističko-boljsevičke orjentacije."
Protokoli:
"Улога либералних утописта биће дефинитивно одиграна када наша влада буде призната. Дотле ће нам они послужити као добре слуге..."
"Ко ће посумњати тада да смо све ове проблеме ми били удесили и наместили према политичком плану који нико није открио у току многих векова?!"
Zbog svega navedenog,ne treba da nas iznenadi prvi korak koji će se preduteti na sev.američkom kontinentu a pod izgovorom izlaska iz krize i spasavanja posrnulog dolara a to je konačna realizacija plana o uspostavljanju Severnoameričke unije i uvođenje Amera.
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Sjevernoamerička unija, koja bi zamijenila SAD, do sada je bila samo teorija umotana u veo tajne, a administracija predsjednika Busha nekoliko je godina poricala da se radi o stvarnom planu.
Rad na superdržavi započeo je još u ožujku 2005. godine kad su se u Texasu sastali američki predsjednik Bush, kanadski premijer Paul Martin i meksički Vincent Fox. Dogovorili su se da će uspostaviti Sjevernoameričku uniju do 2010. godine, te potpisali SPP, ugovor o sigurnosnom partnerstvu tih triju država.
Plan, koji je bio još samo jedna od teorija zavjera, isplivao je na površinu, a oni koji su čuvali tajnu, nisu objasnili koji su bili razlozi tome. Sjevernoamerička unija, ili superdržava, kako je neki nazivaju, postala je temom u Kongresu.
Busheva administracija djelovala tajno
Busheva administracija tajno je predstavila unapređenje NAFTE ili sporazuma o slobodnoj trgovini.
NAFTA ili Sjevernoamerički sporazum o slobodnoj trgovini (North American Free Trade Agreement) je uz Europsku uniju najznačajnija kontinentalna integracija. Djeluje od 1994. godine, a čine je SAD, Kanada i Meksiko.
Cilj integracije je uspostava najveće zone slobodne trgovine u svijetu koja bi trebala obuhvatiti cijelu zapadnu hemisferu. Članice NAFTA-e zalažu se za ukidanje carina i svih ograničenja za protok kapitala i usluga, usklađivanje radnog zakonodavstva i ekoloških standarda te za zaštitu intelektualnog vlasništva.
Članstvom u integraciji Kanada i Meksiko dobili su pristup američkom tržištu, a kompanije iz SAD-a slobodu djelovanja.
Superautocesta povezivat će SAD, Meksiko i Kanadu
Plan o uspostavi Sjevernoameričke unije uključivao je i superautocestu koja povezuje Kanadu, SAD i Meksiko, a jedini koji se javno pobunio protiv plana bio je Ron Paul, kandidat koji je izbačen iz utrke. U ožujku 2006. godine sastanak je ponovo održan u Meksiku, a 2007. u Kanadi. Dogovoreni su još konkretniji ciljevi i zadaće koji bi prethodili konačnom ujedinjenju.
Superdržava s potpunom kontrolom nad stanovnicima
Tri zemlje naporno su radile na uspostavljanju kvalitetnog prometa na temelju sjevernoameričkog sporazuma o slobodnoj trgovini NAFTA.
Koliko će nova država biti moćna govori i sama činjenica o velikom broju stanovnika i površini koju zauzimaju tri zemlje združene u jednu.
Kanada je druga najveća država na svijetu odmah poslije Rusije, gdje živi oko 32 milijuna ljudi. To je zemlja bogata prirodnim ljepotama i jedna od vodećih država svijeta po standardu življenja.
U Meksiku živi 109 milijuna i to je 11 država na svijetu po broju stanovnika, a s površinom od gotovo 2 milijuna kvadratnih kilometara, peta država po veličini u Americi i četrnaesta u svijetu, dok u SAD-u živi nevjerojatnih 300 milijuna ljudi.
Sve što je tajno izaziva određeni strah, pa tako i nova superdržava. Pojavila su se nagađanja da će Sjevernoamerička unija funkcionirati na temelju apsolutističke vladavine, s potpunom kontrolom nad svojim stanovnicima.
Amerikanci se boje meksičkih doseljenika
Koliko će brisanje granica zadovoljiti Amerikance veliko je pitanje, koje očito nikoga ne zanima baš pretjerano. Stanovnici Kanade, Meksika i SAD-a moći će nesmetano putovati tim trima zemljama i zadržati se koliko god žele, jer će biti građani samo jedne države. Amerikanci se naravno boje meksičkih doseljenika, koji više neće biti imigranti već legalni stanovnici sa svim pravima.
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Dolar odlazi u istoriju - uvodi se Amero
Dolar je u opasnosti od propadanja zbog finansijske nestabilnosti u svetu, pada cene nafte i američkog inostranog duga.
Američki dolar uskoro bi trebao biti zamenjen novom valutom amero, javlja ruska Pravda. Fotografije novčanice pojavile su se na ruskim internet stranicama. Amero bi bio zajednička valuta Severnoameričke unije u kojoj bi se nalazile SAD, Kanada i Meksiko.
Izgledom bi amero odudarao od dolara. Za razliku od portreta predsednika, amero će sadržati jelena na novčanici od 50 i piramidu američkih indijanaca na novčanici od 100.
Dolar u opasnosti od propadanja
Zbog nestabilne finansijske situacije u svetu, pada cena nafte i američkog inostranog duga, dolar, kao najveća svetska valuta, je u opasnosti od propadanja. Vlasti u SAD-u odbacuju glasine i obećavaju da će držati dolar u opticaju.
Zagovornici "teorije zavere" veruju da vlade SAD-a, Kanade i Meksika već preduzimaju korake u implementaciji takve valute kao dela Severnoamerička unije koju je Bušova administracija utemeljila 2005. godine.
Amero kao valuta sledi model evra, a kao ideju predstavio ju je kanadski ekonomista Herbert G. Grubel u knjizi "The Case for the Amero" 1999. godine kada je i evro postao efektivna valuta.
Kanadski institut C.D. Howe također je zagovarao kreiranje zajedničke valute između Kanade i SAD-a. Kad je izveštaj izašao u javnost, kanadski nacionalisti su izjavili nezadovoljstvo zbog zajedničke valute koja bi Americi poslužila da iskorišćava kanadske prirodne resurse.
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Naravno i na globalnom nivou preduzeti su prvi koraci,za sada su tu samo izjave da se raja na vreme pripremi:
Generalni direktor Svetske trgovinske organizacije (STO) Paskal Lami smatra da je svetu neophodna čvrsta globalna regulacija finansijskih tržišta i zalaže se za stvaranje jednog globalnog svetskog organa koji bi se bavio finansijama sa ciljem da ubuduće spreči ekonomske potrese.
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Lami smatra da bi svaka zemlja u sadašnjoj složenoj situaciji trebalo da uvaži predlog za međunarodnu regulaciju finansijskih tržišta, uprkos tome što će to predstavljati i odgovarajuće ograničavanje njihovog suvereniteta.
I ona nemačka babuskera Merkelova je izjavila slično u Davosu pa ćemo narenih meseci moći da pratimo dalju razradu tog plana.
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A u nas uvodimo rubljeure
Brate akhnatone, nađi meru kad kvotuješ, nemoj ovako početnički.
Pa dobro ljudi, majku mu, je'l mora da se citira cela jebena poruka da bi se rekle dve reci?
Ma zeza me browser. :cry:
nekada se ovde ubijalo i za manje!
Quote from: "Ghoul"nekada se ovde ubijalo i za manje!
Kuku lele, mene!!! :cry:
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I ona nemačka babuskera Merkelova je izjavila slično u Davosu pa ćemo narenih meseci moći da pratimo dalju razradu tog plana.
A ko onda dođe da brani zapadni liberalizam od Lorda Kejnza i njegovih Štiglica? Vladimir Putin! Baš u Davosu, on je rekao ovo:
Excessive intervention in economic activity and blind faith in the state's omnipotence is another possible mistake.
True, the state's increased role in times of crisis is a natural reaction to market setbacks. Instead of streamlining market mechanisms, some are tempted to expand state economic intervention to the greatest possible extent.
The concentration of surplus assets in the hands of the state is a negative aspect of anti-crisis measures in virtually every nation.
In the 20th century, the Soviet Union made the state's role absolute. In the long run, this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive. This lesson cost us dearly. I am sure nobody wants to see it repeated.
Nor should we turn a blind eye to the fact that the spirit of free enterprise, including the principle of personal responsibility of businesspeople, investors and shareholders for their decisions, is being eroded in the last few months. There is no reason to believe that we can achieve better results by shifting responsibility onto the state.
And one more point: anti-crisis measures should not escalate into financial populism and a refusal to implement responsible macroeconomic policies. The unjustified swelling of the budgetary deficit and the accumulation of public debts are just as destructive as adventurous stock-jobbing.Ceo govor na http://www.weforum.org/pdf/AM_2009/OpeningAddress_VladimirPutin.pdf
Mislim, Rusi su poznati po tome da oni gotovo namerno rade i pričaju suprotno onome što je trenutno u modi na zapadu, ali jedna ovakva verbalna neortodoksija je malo tvrda i za Putina. Meni je bar milo što jedan bivši KGB-ovac lupa packe iz ekonomske teorije ljudima poput Obame, Merkelove i onom klovnu od francuskog predsednika.
Just as global financial institutions failed to prevent the crisis, international political organizations have shown their impotence by failing to prevent Russia's war with Georgia, the November terrorist acts in India and Israel's attack on the Gaza Strip, Putin said.
Čudima nikad kraja...
http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Nurijel-Rubini-predlozio-Obami-nacionalizaciju-banaka.sr.html
Nego kako!!!! :idea:
Pih. Ovakvih likova kao sto je ovaj Nuriel bilo je koliko hocete jos pre 7 godina.
Quote from: "raindelay"A sad malo ja. 2002.god proveo sam osam meseci radeci u NY za jednu firmu u kojoj radim i zadnjih pet god. od kada su otvorili predstavnistvo u BGD-u. Jednom prilikom slusao sam neki radio sou gde su se dvojica voditelja i slusaoci koji su se ukljucivali u program raspravljali oko toga gde bi trebalo uloziti novac na deset godina a onda bi sve ideje skupili i pozvali jednog nezavisnog brokera koji ima svoju emisiju gde svakoga jutra daje svoje vidjenje berze. Sad to je emisija zabavnog karaktera pa je jedan od voditelja tvrdio da bi trebalo uloziti u " izvore alternativne energije" u Finskoj a drugi da bi trebalo kupiti evre i drzati novac kuci ispod kreveta s tim sto bi svake veceri dodavao sitnis iz dzepova. Na kraju emisije pozvali su tog brokera i covek kao da je bio prorok. Rekao im je da bi za te pare najpametnije bilo da kupe konzerviranu hranu koja moze da se ne pokvari deset godina jer kako stvari stoje bice im potrebna. (napominjem da je ta emisija bila 2002.god). Sam sebe je nazvao Doomsday broker. xanix
Evo šta je mudri dedica Kurt Vonegat još 1987. napisao u svom romanu Plavobradi, na mestu gde opisuje prvi susret svog junaka sa njujorškom Velikom centralnom stanicom 1932. godine:
"Velika ekonomska kriza je bila u jeku, tako da su stanicom i ulicama vrveli beskućnici, baš kao i danas. Novine su bile pune članaka o otpuštanju radnika, oduzimanju poljoprivrednih imanja od dužnika, propasti banaka, baš kao i danas. Sve se to promenilo, po mom mišljenju, zato što, zahvaljujući televiziji, možemo da sakrijemo veliku ekonomsku krizu. Možda krijemo čak i Treći svetski rat."
Gorane Care!!! Kurt Vonegat je uvek znao šta i kada da kaže. :idea: :wink:
Dakle propadaju
Znao sam :idea:
Svi propadamo!!! :cry:
Quote from: "akhnaton"Svi propadamo!!! :cry:
I treba! Iz gore rečenog izvodim zaključak da će i Boban da propadne...
8) :)
E, Scallope, šta to radiš tim Amerima? Otkada si stigao u SAD, Dow Jones samo pada. Danas je na 6.763. Ako se tako nastavi, uskoro će DJ da dostigne beogradski Belex na 420.
Isto što i ovde: ja savetujem, a niko me ne sluša. :x :x :x
Quote from: "scallop"ja savetujem, a niko me ne sluša. :x :x :x
Ma, sve to treba xtwak.
Ljudi bre sta je ovo, proslo vec 2 meseca a to propadanje slabo nesto ide, doduse onaj vidoviti Rus im je dao nekih 6 meseci - jel tako bese ?
Ajmo, ajde, nestrpljiv sam jbga, kad ce ta ekonomska kriza, de su ta masovna samoubistva, crkva gori, krv, smrt, zlo i to a ? :idea:
Toliki oblakoderi a niko da skače.Stvarno sramota.
Gledam na Vojs of Amerika i tako po B92, kao firme propadaju, ovo, ono, a ljudi gistro koji su do juce bili na rukovodecim mestima sad kao rade u kanalizaciji, snalaze se , prezivljavaju, onako svi skromni, bogobojazljivih pogleda , iz fazona valjda ce biti bolje :roll:
E pa NECE, sve je crno, SMRT MORE !!! :twisted:
Quote from: "slavkod"Toliki oblakoderi a niko da skače.Stvarno sramota.
Cekaju da se obuce novi arapski piloti, pa ce opet da skacu sa 50-og sprata ko onomad septembra...
Prvi signal propadanja amerike, ali stvarnog propadanja biće kada.... :twisted: :evil:
Quote from: "Son of Man"Gledam na Vojs of Amerika i tako po B92, kao firme propadaju, ovo, ono, a ljudi gistro koji su do juce bili na rukovodecim mestima sad kao rade u kanalizaciji, snalaze se , prezivljavaju, onako svi skromni, bogobojazljivih pogleda , iz fazona valjda ce biti bolje :roll:
E pa NECE, sve je crno, SMRT MORE !!! :twisted:
Jedan školski drug moje žene već decenijama živi u Klivlendu - kaže kako mu nikad nije bilo bolje, jer su cene hrane, goriva itd. ludački niske, te da je caka jedino da - imaš posao... A čovek radi u nekoj spoljnotrgovinskoj firmi i plus tezgari (svira) na srpskim svadbama gde zaradi po dve mesečne plate... Bre, mi Srbi smo neprejebivi k'o bubašvabe - cela Amerika će propadne, a među preživelima biće samo naši emigranti.
Moj bivsi cimer iz doma se bas zali, juce smo pricali, on je u Cikagu. Frka mu , bas je nervozan, u firmi od 1500 ljudi otpustilo 300, a spremaju se nova otpustanja.
Ono sto mi je buraz prico, on je u Kanadi, da oni imaju te manje vise uobicajene cikluse privrednog rasta, pa pada, ali sad su strukturalni problemi, mnogo ozbiljniji.
Puno amera i kanadjana ostaje bez posla, firme sele svoje poslove u Indiju, Meksiko, razne azijske zemlje.. gde je jeftinija radna snaga, porezi..
Zasto ce amerika propasti ? E bas zbog ovakvih stvari, izvalite to sustinsko nerazumevanje sustine biti :roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0QRWnaJqgU itd......
Prvo, link treba da glasi ovako: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0QRWnaJqgU a ostalo je nepotrebna šminka.
Drugo, sve "navijače" razbojnike treba pohapsiti i zaturiti ključ :evil:
Quote from: "mac"Prvo, link treba da glasi ovako: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0QRWnaJqgU a ostalo je nepotrebna šminka.
Drugo, sve "navijače" razbojnike treba pohapsiti i zaturiti ključ :evil:
Ne, link treba da glasi ovako kad si vec tako pametan.
Nesto mnogo svezije od ovog tvog proseravanja.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSd8DAEHkLk
A ovde se vide i devojke u fajtu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik7u6sxqdnk
Mislim da je malo preterano reći da će Sjedinjene države da propadnu.Ono što je ugroženo je njihova apsolutna dominacija u ekonomskom,političikom,vojnom i informativnom pogledu.U pitanju je pozicija svetskog policajca i zakonodavca.
Naravno da se ljudi tamo osećaju ugroženi,i jesu,ali posledica sistema u kome je svakodnevni život zapravo ,manje ili više,dužničko ropstvo je cena kojom se plaća takozvani progres i rast.
Quote from: "slavkod"Mislim da je malo preterano reći da će Sjedinjene države da propadnu.Ono što je ugroženo je njihova apsolutna dominacija u ekonomskom,političikom,vojnom i informativnom pogledu.U pitanju je pozicija svetskog policajca i zakonodavca.
Naravno da se ljudi tamo osećaju ugroženi,i jesu,ali posledica sistema u kome je svakodnevni život zapravo ,manje ili više,dužničko ropstvo je cena kojom se plaća takozvani progres i rast.
Svakako da je preterano. Topik govori o "ivici propasti", a to nije preterano. Glavni štos je što krivci smatraju da je to što su uradili legalno. Pošto štednja ne postoji (ne isplati se!), glavna igra je berza i konstantno zaduživanje.
Visoka klasa zadužuje svoje firme (što bi se oni zaduživali? Madoff pita kakve veze ima njegova imovina sa imovinom hiljada koje je sjebao? Kao, oni su se kockali, on je samo držao "pikslu".)
Srednja klasa se zadužuje i održava taj dug, na račun porasta vrednosti akcija koje kupuju umesto štednje. E, sad su akcije ljosnule za oko 50%, što znači da dug više nije pokriven. Sad se uče da štede, ali to nije lako. Lakše je naučiti trošiti.
Sirotinja nije mogla da se zadužuje (nisu bili pokriveni akcijama), ali oni gube radna mesta, a dinamika je 500 do 600 hiljada mesečno.
Džeronimo protiv Obame
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Na stotu godišnjicu smrti legendarnog apačkog ratnika Džeronima, dvadesetoro njegovih potomaka podnelo je tužbu sudu u Vašingtonu tražeći da država vrati ostatke tela za koje veruju da mogu biti na Univerzitetu Jejl.
Cilj tužbenog zahteva "Džeronimo protiv Obame" - u kojem su osim predsednika SAD kao odgovorni pomenuti i sekretar za odbranu Robert Gejts, sekretar kopnene vojske Pit Geren, Jejl i tajno društvo "Lobanja i kosti" sa ovog univerziteta - jeste da se "oslobodi Džeronimo, njegovi ostaci, predmeti sa kojima je sahranjen i njegov duh koji su sto godina bili zarobljeni u Fort Silu u Oklahomi, studentskom domu Univerziteta Jejl i gde god da se još nalaze".
Praunuk najpoznatijeg Apača Harlin Džeronimo izjavio je da želi da ostatke svog pretka sahrani u skladu sa običajima ovog indijanskog plemena.
"Dok se to ne obavi na pravi način, njegov duh će i dalje lutati i zato on mora da bude vraćen svojoj zemlji, na planinu Gilu. Nadamo se da će ljudi koje smo naveli u tužbi ovo ozbiljno shvatiti", izjavio je Džeronimo koji je za advokata angažovao bivšeg američkog ministra pravde Remzija Klarka, nekadašnjeg pravnog savetnika Slobodana Miloševića i Sadama Huseina.
"Veći deo Džeronimovih kostiju je i dalje u Fort Silu, a ovom tužbom utvrdićemo tačno gde su njegovi ostaci", izjavio je Klark.
Veruje su da su 1918. godine članovi tajnog kluba "Lobanja i kosti" iskopali kosti apačkog ratnika sa groblja u utvrđenju Sil i da su ih preneli u svoje prostorije na univerzitetu u državi Konektikat, a među pljačkašima groba bio je i deda bivšeg američkog predsednika Džordža V. Buša, Preskot Buš.
Tri generacije članova porodice Buš, uključujući i oba predsednika sa ovim prezimenom, bile su članovi tajnog društva sa Jejla koje se smatra jednom od najuticajnijih neformalnih organizacija u SAD.
Harlin Džeronimo kaže da je pre tri godine pisao Džordžu Bušu tražeći da mu se vrate ostaci tela pradede, ali nije dobio nikakav odgovor.
Posle višedecenijskih borbi sa američkom vojskom, poglavica Džeronimo predao se 1886, verujući da je postigao dogovor da može da se vrati na svoju zemlju na planini Gili na jugozapadu SAD.
Poslednje godine života proveo je kao ratni zarobljenik u Fort Silu u Oklahomi, gde je i umro u osamdesetoj godini. Stručnjaci ne veruju da je bilo koji deo njegovog tela završio u "Grobnici" – sedištu tajnog društva sa Jejla.
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,,When they are taken from these homes they sicken and die. How long will it be until it is said, there are no Apaches?,,
Geronimo
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,,When they are taken from these homes they sicken and die. How long will it be until it is said, there are no Apaches?,,
Geronimo
Ovo je prajsles - gde bre sve to nalazis pritajeni teroristo, skriveni anarhisto ? :!:
Evo za Ekstremistu jedna "nasa" fotka koju sam dobio od brace Mensonijanaca sa Rhode Ajlenda :!:
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Opa, izgleda je pocelo :? - juce Alabama, danas Nemachka. Columbine high back on the map ? :idea:
Teen gunman dead after killing 15 at German school
Germany – A 17-year-old gunman dressed in black opened fire at his former high school in southwestern Germany on Wednesday then fled in a hijacked a car, killing at least 15 people before police shot him to death, state officials said.
The teenager killed nine students, three teachers, and a passer-by outside Albertville high school in Winnenden, authorities said.
Triggering a land and air manhunt, he hijacked a car, let the passengers go and drove about 25 miles (40 kilometers) before police found him. When confronted, he killed two bystanders in a shootout with police before he was slain, Baden Wuerttemburg governor Guenther Oettinger said. Two officers were seriously injured, but there was no immediate information on other casualties.
Police have not yet identified the gunman.
It was the nation's worst shooting since another teenage gunman killed 16 people and himself in another high school in 2002.
"He went into the school with a weapon and carried out a bloodbath," said regional police chief Erwin Hetger. "I've never seen anything like this in my life."
The gunman entered the school in the town 12 miles (20 kilometers) northeast of Stuttgart and opened fire, shooting at random, police said.
Witnesses said students jumped from the windows of the school building. Concerned parents quickly swarmed around the school, which was evacuated.
It was about four hours later that authorities said the gunman had been killed, but it was not immediately clear at what time police shot him.
The teenager graduated last year from the school, which has 1,000 students.
The German government was "deeply shocked and incensed about the appalling killing spree," Ulrich Wilhelm, a spokesman for Chancellor Angela Merkel, said in Berlin.
In 2002, 19-year-old Robert Steinhaeuser shot and killed 12 teachers, a secretary, two students and a police officer before turning his gun on himself in the Gutenberg high school in Erfurt, in eastern Germany.
Steinhaeuser, who had been expelled for forging a doctor's note, was a gun club member licensed to own weapons. The attack led Germany to raise the age for owning recreational firearms from 18 to 21.
To je izgleda postalo uobicajena pojava tamo.
Plasim se da ta " moda " ne stigne i do nas.
Pih, znaci Stajnhauzerov rekord nije oboren ovom prilikom. :shock:
Why Do Muslims Hate Us?
Tue, 03/10/2009 - 22:18
by Gertrude Bauser
Every morning, I used to walk past an ATM machine with "Allah" spray-painted over the label. For me, that image sums up the answer to the question. But, two towers and a few slogans later, it still isn't so clear to the crowd. My personal favourite is that "they hate our freedom." They've got sand in their turbans, they don't get enough sex, they don't have enough shopping malls and TV channels. So all they need is some pot and some Viagra, right? Now that's material for jokes so funny they'll get you shot! But unfortunately, empty speculations only underline the question.
Let's take off our rainbow-tinted glasses for a moment and consider the world from the Islamic viewpoint: We're not mistaken for the devil. We are the devil. Fact: The West is the greatest threat to Islam in living memory. We've tried everything to conquer their spirit: diplomacy, trade, stray missiles, torture (few men can hold out through more than a couple hours of the Bill O'Reilly show and Full House re-runs). As our last resort, we've finally decided to take a lesson from history - Send them a Trojan Horse! Inside: condoms (flavoured), lottery tickets, toy ballots, and free copies of The God Delusion (apparently we had a surplus). We had planned to include some 3x5-inch American flags (made in China), but were concerned it might reveal our identity.
Other considerations aside, the worldview magnified by Islamic extremists is actually a correct assessment of Western culture--while we ourselves remain deceived by our own shopping-mall romanticism. The essence of the West threatens to infiltrate the Islamic world and then, like a vacuum, entrap and annihilate it. Quite simply, we tried to sell them a dead horse, and they called the bluff. Their reactions make perfect sense – so what the hell are we doing?
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The Chinese premier Wen Jiabao expressed concern on Friday about China's $1 trillion investment in U.S. government debt.
NYT 13. mart 2009.
IRAČKI novinar Mutazer al-Zeidi, koji se 14. decembra prošle godine izuo i gađao cipelama američkog predsednika Džordža Buša na konferenciji za novinare u Bagdadu, osuđen je u četvrtak na tri godine zatvora. Uprkos izrečenoj kazni - a pretilo mu je čak do 15 godina zatvora - presuda, primećuju komentatori, nije baš prijatna za iračke vlasti, jer je svojim činom novinar postao svojevrsni heroj na Bliskom istoku, budući da je Buš u većini tih zemalja, uključujući Irak, nepopularan.
Gest iračkog novinara ubrzo je postao simbol bunta na raznim stranama sveta. Pred Belom kućom u Vašingtonu ubrzo su osvanuli nizovi cipela sa prikačenim imenima žrtava invazije na Irak. Slično kao Buš se, nešto kasnije, proveo i kineski premijer Ven Džiabao tokom posete Londonu početkom februara. Njega je besni student, kako se kasnije ispostavilo Nemac Martin Janke, gađao cipelom usred predavanja u univerzitetu Kembridž.
U samom Bagdadu je bio podignut spomenik u čast "bačenih cipela", ali je samo posle nekoliko dana sravnjen sa zemljom. Bilo je i finansijskih uspeha. Turska firma koja je objavila da je napravila "legendarne" cipele Al-Zeidija - procvetala je...
Priča sa bacanjem cipele, međutim, nije ipak novi izum. U kulturi Evrope "bacanje" cipela se beleži u Engleskoj na kraju 16. veka, tokom izvođenja pozorišnih komada Vilijama Šekspira. Gledaoci su, ako im se nije sviđala predstava, gađali izvođače obućom.
Među najčuvenijim primerima upotrebe obuće u svetskoj politici je zabeležen onaj za govornicom Ujedinjenih nacija 1962. godine. Tada se predsednik sovjetske države i partije Nikita Hruščov, usred Kubanske krize i rasprave u UN zbog mogućeg sukoba dvaju blokova Zapadnog i Istočnog, izuo i - pojačao svoje izlaganje udaranjem cipelom o govornicu UN.
SUZE I GNEV
OVA presuda je stroga, nije u skladu sa zakonom i tim odbrane će podneti žalbu na presudu, izjavio je šef Zaidijevog odbrambenog tima Dia al-Sadi. Zaidijeva sestra je kroz suze uzviknula po izricanju presude: "Dole Maliki, američki agent", misleći na iračkog premijera Nurija al-Mlaikija. Zaidijev brat Udaj izjavio je da je presuda politički motivisana.
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KUKU! LELE! PROPAS!
Consumer prices rise 0.4 percent in February
WASHINGTON – Consumer prices rose in February by the largest amount in seven months as gasoline prices surged again and clothing costs jumped the most in nearly two decades.
But the increase appeared to ease many economists' concerns about dangerous price movements in either direction. The recession is expected to dampen any inflation pressures for at least the rest of this year, while the slight uptick in prices over the last two months also has made the possibility of deflation more remote.
The Labor Department reported Wednesday that consumer inflation rose 0.4 percent in February, the biggest one-month jump since a 0.7 percent rise in July. Two-thirds of last month's increase, which was slightly more than analysts expected, reflected a big jump in gasoline pump prices.
Meanwhile, the deficit in the broadest measure of U.S. trade fell sharply in the final three months of last year as oil prices dropped and the recession reduced U.S. consumers' demand for overseas goods. Economists expect the improvement in the U.S. current account to continue this year, but mostly due to rapid falls in imports.
Exports also are falling as the global economy slows, eliminating what had been a crucial source of sales for U.S. manufacturers early last year.
Core inflation, which excludes food and energy, rose 0.2 percent in February, also slightly higher than the 0.1 percent rise economists expected.
The Federal Reserve, which was wrapping up a two-day meeting on Wednesday, was expected to keep a key interest rate at a record low near zero as Fed officials continue to believe that the biggest problems at present are the deep recession and severe financial crisis, not inflation.
ITD.
NAJEBAŠE AMERI KO ŽUTI! :(
Ima tu jedna caka. Kad mi imamo inflaciju, to se oseća samo kod nas. Kad Ameri imaju inflaciju to oseća ceo svet.
Quote from: "mac"Ima tu jedna caka. Kad mi imamo inflaciju, to se oseća samo kod nas. Kad Ameri imaju inflaciju to oseća ceo svet.
Uvek je bilo tako. Kad Amerika dobije kijavicu, ceo svet dobije galopirajuću tuberkulozu. Kako je sad Amerika dobila puzajući TBC, svet ima kugu. :idea:
Ma samo nek Amerika propadne pa makar mi stradali i 100 puta vise. :evil:
Pre će da bidne obratno, al ajde neka ti bude son of man.
Kako obratno ? :shock:
Mislis da Amerika strada 100 puta vise od nas ? AWESOME-O !!! :!:
Pa da, mi ćemo zbog krize izgubiti milijardu nečega, a oni sto milijardi. Šta bi rekao, kome je gore?
Hahahaha,hohohohoho,hihihihih,hehehehe,huhuhuhuhu!
Ma, mislio sam da će mo mi da propadnemo, a da će Amerika kad propadne (a to neće bit tako skoro, kako se nadate)propasti sto puta gore!
Btw, mi smo već propali, ali toga nismo svesni, ili da kažem свијесни, свесни.... :twisted: :idea:
Quote from: "mac"Pa da, mi ćemo zbog krize izgubiti milijardu nečega, a oni sto milijardi. Šta bi rekao, kome je gore?
evo ja prihvatam da na nas padne 1 atomska bomba - pozeljno na Prishtinu. :evil:
Sram te bilo, zar baš u srce?! :evil:
Quote from: "Kastor"Sram te bilo, zar baš u srce?! :evil:
Pa tamo najviše boli, a ne sme se uglav, nikako! Beograd je свјат! :evil: :idea:
Jos bolje, nek mi nemamo, struje, vode, agregata, niti bilo chega 1 dan a oni 100 dana i problem reshen. :evil:
Ili evo, da ne idemo tako daleko, samo 100 dana da nemaju internet (ni wireless) i ja mislim da bi izbili taki neredi da bi to bila konachna propast amerike. 8)
ПРАГ – Чешка влада повукла је неочекивано вечерас из Посланичког дома парламента предлог споразума са САД о изградњи радара антиракетног штита у Чешкој и прекинула тако његову ратификацију, због реалне претње да парламент споразум дефинитивно сутра одбије.
,,То не значи да је ратификацији крај. Она у горњем дому важи. Споразум ћемо вратити у доњи дом после даљих консултација са америчком администрацијом и априлског самита НАТО", казао је вечерас чешки премијер Мирек Тополанек који се са саопштењем о томе појавио ванредно у главном дневнику националне телевизије.
Опозициона левица, социјалдемократе и нереформисани комунисти, искористила је што на седници ове недеље, због обавеза око председавања Чешке Европском унијом, неће бити чак тројица министара-посланика, а пошто су два посланика владајуће коалиције тешко болесна опозиција би имала поуздану већину да споразум о радару америчког штита и боравку америчких војника одбије.
Иако већ годинама у оба дома чешког парламента важи неписано правило да било опозиција било коалиција због болесних или одсутних посланика друге стране повлачи своје посланике из гласања да би однос снага остао непромењен, овог пута, изузетно, социјалдемократе и комунисти то су одбили.
Опозицији је тако данас пошло за руком да на сутрашњи дневни ред прогура гласање о радару а ако би га Посланички дом у том гласању одбио, пројект у Чешкој би дефинитивно пао у воду, јер је за радар неопходна сагласност оба дома парламента.
Прекид поступка ратификације поздравио је данас и лидер најмањег партнера у влади премијера Тополанека, Странке зелених, Мартин Бурсик.
,,Мислим да нема смисла ратификовати сада тај споразум, док не знамо какав ће према штиту бити став америчке администрације новог америчког председника Барака Обаме", казао је Бурсик чешкој телевизији.
Ne znam jel već bilo ovde
Чак Норис тражи сецесију Тексаса
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ХЈУСТОН – Америчка звезда акционих филмова Чак Норис изјавио је да би Тексас могао да прогласи независност и да би он могао да се кандидује за његовог председника.
,,Америчком реџеру" се, наиме, нимало не допада скретање улево америчке владе након избора Барака Обаме ког је током изборне кампање и сам подржао.
Он је у својој колумни, објављеној 9. марта на сајту Ворлд нет дејли, упозорио да ће се Тексас отцепити од САД ако се ствари наставе овим током.
Цитирајући Џона Адамса, мајстор борилачких вештина је написао да Конгрес и председник ,,газе попут стампеда" Устав државе у корист ,,разних жеља, партијских политика и расипништва".
Нориса очигледно привлачи политика. Доказ тога је и његова књига ,,Црни појас патриотизма" (Black belt patriotism) у којој износи своја гледишта на 247 страница.
Наслов првог од 10 поглавља, ,,Једна нација, подељена, без идеја", довољно говори о садржини књиге.
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Чак Норис тражи сецесију Тексаса
to ti je vise za temu Will-O'-The-Wisp, reaguj !!!
Odlichno, ako se ocepi Teksas idem prvi u zvanichnu posetu, posetim Waco, Austin i gledam neko izvrshenje smrtne kazne, milina jedna. :D
Quote from: "Son of Man"Odlichno, ako se ocepi Teksas idem prvi u zvanichnu posetu, posetim Waco, Austin i gledam neko izvrshenje smrtne kazne, milina jedna. :D
Ako te puste da izađeš iz kuće. xfrog
I to sto kazes. :( :cry:
Opet masovno ubistvo u SAD, tip pobio osmoro staraca.
Oni su stvarno ludi.
I tako luda nacija vlada svetom.. nije ni cudo sto je svet takav.
Kolko se to omasovilo izgubilo je svaki smisao jbga, a tek ce da izgubi kad krene pravi KEOS.
Quote from: "tiha voda"Opet masovno ubistvo u SAD, tip pobio osmoro staraca.
Oni su stvarno ludi.
I tako luda nacija vlada svetom.. nije ni cudo sto je svet takav.
Opasne relativizacije. To je upravo ono sto ti radis i na sta sam pokusao da ti ukazem, na nekim prethodnim postovima. Ne postiji nikakva kauzalnost, tj, uzrocno-posledicna veza izmedju ovog sto tvrdis. Takav ti je gotovo svaki post.
Da, meni se nekad čini da je ova tiha voda nekakav agent provokator. Verovatno nisam u pravu...
Quote from: "Alexdelarge"Ne postiji nikakva kauzalnost, tj, uzrocno-posledicna veza izmedju ovog sto tvrdis. Takav ti je gotovo svaki post.
Slažem se.
Jeste, ja sam tajni agent Rusije, Belorusije, Severne Koreje, i ostalih sila tame.. :)
Zasto svatate sve bukvalno, pa naravno da ne mislim da je svaki Amerikanac ludak, ili ubica. Ali ne verujem u slucajnosti, ako se nesto gotovo periodicno javlja, onda se nesto definitivno desava. Neki problem postoji.
Odsekao glavu petogodišnjoj sestri na rođendanskoj proslavi
Dečja rođendanska žurka pretvorila se u krvoproliće kada je brat petogodišnje slavljenice prvo odrubio njenu glavu, a zatim sedamnaestogodišnju sestru izbo nožem na smrt, prenosi "Tajms onlajn".
Nakon što je ubio dve sestre, Kerbi Revelas (23) je nožem napao svoju devetogodišnju sestru Serafinu, pre nego što ga je ubila policija. Krvavi napad dogodio se ovog vikenda u kući u kojoj su Revelas i sestre živeli zajedno sa roditeljima i bakom u predgrađu Bostona, Miltonu.
Roditelji nisu bili kod kuće, a njihova baka je za vreme napada prala veš u podrumu.
Policajac koji je patrolirao nedaleko od mesta zločina provalio je u kuću nakon što je Serafina uputila poziv hitnoj pomoći.
"Čim je policajac upao u kuću, Revelas je odsekao sestrinu glavu (Bjanka) pred njim," rekao je šef lokalne policije Ričard G. Vels. "Kuća je izgledala kao bojno polje. Takav pokolj nismo nikada videli", dodao je Vels.
Četvorica policajaca su ubrzo stigla na mesto zločina, a dvojica od njih su fatalno iz vatrenog oružja pogodili Revelasa u momentu kada je napao treću sestru Serafinu, rekao je Vels.
Detalji o broju ispaljenih metaka od strane policije i metku koji je ubio Revelasa biće otkriveni nakon obdukcije.
Serafina je primljena u bolnicu sa ubodnim ranama na rukama, nozi i u stomaku.
"Policijski zvaničnici su svakodnevni svedoci sirovih ljudskih emocija, ali sama pomisao da ljudsko biće može počiniti takvo okrutno delo nad članovima sopstvene porodice je krajnje neverovatno", rekao je Vels.
Policija još nema informacije o tome šta je dovelo do napada, ali poznato je da je 24 sata pre napada Revelas učestvovao u svađi sa komšijom, koju su rešili pesnicama, i da je bio potresen satima nakon toga.
Revelas je nedavno služio zatvorsku kaznu zbog nezakonitog posedovanja oružja, a 2004. godine policija je bila pozvana u porodičnu kuću nakon što je Revelas fizički napao ženu koja je tada živela sa njima.
Greska. :x
Ajde sto se kod nas svasta desava- ratovi, sankcije, izbeglistva, ekonomska beda, generacije koje su rasle ko u kavezu, nigde nisu makle, nista nisu videle..
Ali sta je njihov problem ??!
Quote from: "tiha voda"Ajde sto se kod nas svasta desava- ratovi, sankcije, izbeglistva, ekonomska beda, generacije koje su rasle ko u kavezu, nigde nisu makle, nista nisu videle..
Ali sta je njihov problem ??!
Njihov problem je ogromna neizvesnost, stalni život pod stresom, klanjanje Mamonu....
Quote from: "akhnaton"Quote from: "tiha voda"Ajde sto se kod nas svasta desava- ratovi, sankcije, izbeglistva, ekonomska beda, generacije koje su rasle ko u kavezu, nigde nisu makle, nista nisu videle..
Ali sta je njihov problem ??!
Njihov problem je ogromna neizvesnost, stalni život pod stresom, klanjanje Mamonu....
Njihov problem je sto i pored svega oni ne zele ni jedan drugi put.
Quote from: "Cornelius"
Njihov problem je sto i pored svega oni ne zele ni jedan drugi put.
Navika je to, veoma, veoma opasna bolest. :(
The American Way
Sacred Reich
Truth and honor faith and pride
all convictions surely died
honesties time has passed
time for lies is here at last
truth is false I'm so fed up
how did we come to be so fucked
hate fear pain death
all our country has got left
Talk to children hear them say
daddy left again today
brother steals and mommy lies
future lost before their eyes
the sun was lost behind the clouds
they rapped it up and blacked it out
acid rain fell today
it came and washed our hopes away
This was once the land of dreams
now these dreams have turned to greed
in the midst of all this wealth
the poor are left to help themselves
a capitalist's democracy
no one said that freedom's free
lady liberty rots away
no truth, no justice
the American way
Don't look past your t.v.
all of us are what you see
a looking glass into our lives
what we watch is what we buy
priorities are out of whack
who is next to stab our back
doesn't it make you mad
to have lost all that we've had
This was once the land of dreams
now these dreams have turned to greed
in the midst of all this wealth
the poor are left to help themselves
a capitalist's democracy
no one said that freedom's free
lady liberty rots away
no truth, no justice
the American way
Doesn't it fill you with disgust
that there's no one left to trust
is this happening is this real
my body numb I cannot feel
are you happy are you sad
are emotions a thing of the past
I have no tears I cannot cry
no one mourns for a world that's died
This was once the land of dreams
now these dreams have turned to greed
in the midst of all this wealth
the poor are left to help themselves
a capitalist's democracy
no one said that freedom's free
lady liberty rots away
no truth, no justice
the American way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhEhdOTir8Q
Greška.
Opet pucnjava, ovaj put 13 mrtvih, gistro talibani preuzeli odgovornost, koje je to foliranje. Ne smeju da priznaju da su prsli, pa aj kao talibani, dobro je sto nisu rekli Srbi.
Ma kao javio se taj njihov vodja iz Pakistana, i preuzeo odgovornost, al i meni je to sumnjivo.
Kod njih ako izbije kakav rat.. ovi nasi ce biti mala maca .
Verujem im, znas kako im verujem, od tolko ciljeva izabrao bas imigrante, gistro mi ga satro, pa ako su hteli da se svete americi zna se koje su legitimne mete a ne ovi nesrecnici, to je vadilica jer je krenulo masovno pa kao nije to do nas, talibani su krivi (a vidish, nisu smeli da pomenu al kaidu da se narod ne uplasi previse) a navodno pucao neki Vijetnamac, mada ni to nije potvrdjeno. Kake veze ima Vijetnamac sa Pakistanom, mozda se sveti za Vijetnam ? Ako im je to izgovor za eventualno neki novi rat u Pakistanu alal im vera. Odlichno bi im lego novi rat, taman da narod zaboravi na ekonomsku krizu, da gleda CNN po ceo dan i navija. Leba i igara, a posto ce bude malkice manje leba, znaci pojacaj sa igrama i MIR BOZIJI. Nego nesto nema ovog Bin Ladena, a mogli su da ga iskoriste opet komotno da baci dojavu kako je licno on kriv za tu krizu da narod zna dje da usre'sredi svoj gnev, a ne da lupa po ulicama. Bolje lupaj po tudjim zemljama nego po "svojim" ulicama, to je njihov fazon. Evo juce ovo NATO i naravno haos po nemackoj i francuskoj, a nesto mi se javlja da u Americi to ne bi proslo. Cim bi poleteo prvi kamen ubili bi im boga. Poslednji rajotsi su bili oni u Sijetlu ako me secanje ne vara a kad je to bilo ? Ima bogme oho-ho.
Naravno da nista ne sme da se pusti, to bi bio gradjanski rat u roku od 5 minuta da krene da se gradi neka atmosfera organizovanog nasilja od obale do obale. Pod uslovom da prekine obozavanje Obama porodice do imbecilnosti. CNN kad bi bio razoren, to bi bila vest. Avaj, to su pusti snovi.
Nastavak crne serije. Ovaj put Poljaci + ustase protiv Obamine policije i nadolazece apokalipse.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7983894.stm
xuzi
Neka, neka, samo lezeci policajac je dobar policajac. :)
Ako sam dobro shvatio onaj video The Obama Deception, u planu bilderbergovaca i jeste da zabrane slobodno nošenje oružja. Ovo im je odličan šlagvort.
Quote from: "mac"Ako sam dobro shvatio onaj video The Obama Deception, u planu bilderbergovaca i jeste da zabrane slobodno nošenje oružja. Ovo im je odličan šlagvort.
a ta zabrana bi bila nešto loše? :shock: :?
Naoruzani muskarac ubio tri policajca u Pitsburgu.
U poslednjih dvadesetak sati, to je koja, sesnesta, sedamnesta
ztrva u SAD ?
Za to vreme Obama se sepuri kao paun, a Natovci nam objasnjavaju kako je svet puno bolji zbog njihovog postojanja,
i da trebamo biti zahvalni sto se trose milijarde i milijarde na oruzje i izazivanje ratova.
Ocito je da ta sranja ne prolaze vise ni u njihovim zemljama.
Moraju da ih stite desetine hiljada policajaca. LJudi hoce posao, sigurnost, normalan zivot, a ne vojske i ratove..
Jel neko gledao vesti ? Merkelova docekala Berluskonija, a on izasao iz auta, odmahnuo joj rukom, i okrenuo ledja.
Prica na mobilni.
A kakvu je tugaljivu facu ona slozila :D .
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LJudi hoce posao, sigurnost, normalan zivot,
Ko bre hoce posao, sigurnost, normalan zivot? Podela dana na osam casova sna, osam casova rada i osam casova dokolice je debilna. Rad treba ukinuti. Sigurnost? Sigurnost je izvesnost, a izvesnost je smrt. Zivot je neizvestan. Normalan zivot? Ko je danas normalan? Takozvani Normalni LJudi su najopasnija skupina na svetu.
Ja, ocigledno nisam LJud.
Mozes recimo osam casova da spavas, a sesnest provodis u rovu, recimo Afganistanu ili Iraku.
Tako ti sigurno nece biti dosadno :D .
Quote from: "Alexdelarge"Ko bre hoce posao, sigurnost, normalan zivot? Podela dana na osam casova sna, osam casova rada i osam casova dokolice je debilna. Rad treba ukinuti.
Ima ona stara anarhistichka fora na temu ukidanja RADA, mozda ju nadjem ovih dana, tu mi nedje medj arhivom. :D
Mi seoski anarhisti Srbije smo uvek bili protiv rada , jer rad je sta ? Rad je stvorio roba. Molim lepo.
Quote from: "Son of Man"Rad je stvorio roba. Molim lepo.
Greška, Sine! Rad je stvorio robu. Roba su stvorili neradnici. :x
Rad je stvorio čoveka, ali čovek je stoka...
Quote from: "mac"Rad je stvorio čoveka, ali čovek je stoka...
oćeš reći da je rad stvorio i koze, ovce, krave...?
E pa sad, ne znam ko je njih stvorio. Svako sa sposobnošću govora neka govori u svoje ime :-)
Bog na nebu, RAD na zemlji - taj rad ili neki drugi rad - FK mozda ? :?
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Ima ona stara anarhistichka fora na temu ukidanja RADA, mozda ju nadjem ovih dana, tu mi nedje medj arhivom. :D
Ukoliko mislis na eseje Boba Bleka, imam to.
Quote from: "mac"Rad je stvorio čoveka, ali čovek je stoka...
Mac, to ti neće upaliti. Stoka = roba.
Ja moram da branim svoju lenjivističku teoriju po kojoj je nerad stvorio čoveka. Da smo bili vredni još bismo teglili na leđima i ne bismo pronašli točak. Ne bismo sejali, nego bismo još skupljali zrnevlje i kopali repu.
Po toj logici panda bi trebalo da bude vrhunsko biće, pošto samo spava i jede lišće. I ponekad se pari. Nerad je stvorio pandu...
rad je stvorio coveka, a nerad gospodina.
Quote from: "Alexdelarge"rad je stvorio coveka, a nerad gospodina.
Nisam siguran to za Boba, ne pamtim ta imena jbga. Nego da sam ja sad Ratibor ja bi na ovo reko : "nerad je stvorio gazdu".
Quote from: "mac"Po toj logici panda bi trebalo da bude vrhunsko biće, pošto samo spava i jede lišće. I ponekad se pari. Nerad je stvorio pandu...
Ima jedna mala razlika: panda ima za tri korpe i moraju da budu štićeni da ne izumru. Pokušaj da nađeš neke uspešnije lenjivce. :evil:
Ha-ha-ha-ha xjump
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7991480.stm
:?:
ovo je istovremeno i za SERBIA TODAY, ali i za ovaj KRIZNI topik, pa eto...
Posle osamnaest godina, Ante Marković, poslednji premijer bivše SFRJ, došao je u Beograd gde je, učestvujući na međunarodnoj konferenciji "Socijalne politike u svetlu svetske ekonomske krize", rekao da ne veruje u skori kraj krize.
On je privredama u regionu preporučio da se više oslone jedna na drugu, a kao glavni problem država nekadašnje Jugoslavije naveo je nedostatak sposobnih ljudi.
Bivši saradnici, jugonostalgičari, poštovaoci i brojni novinari dočekali su ga aplauzima, a Ante Marković je potvrdio da ga nije bilo lako nagovoriti na ovaj put.
Presudnu ulogu u tome je, kako kaže, odigrao predsednik Srbije Boris Tadić.
Govoreći o svetskoj ekonomskoj krizi do koje je, kako kaže, dovela globalizacija i vladavina monopola, Marković je rekao da ne veruje u njen skori kraj, a još više sumnja u trajni uspeh mera koje se primenjuju, a liče mu na privremeno krpljenje probušenog balona.
Umesto podrške bankama i monopolima potrebno je uraditi strukturnu reformu privrede, predlaže Marković koji je privredama u regionu predložio da više sarađuju.
Ante Marković smatra da je velika greška vlada u regionu što su strancima prodale celokupan bankarski sektor.
Ipak, on kao najveći problem vidi nedostatak sposobnih ljudi.
Na konferenciji o socijalnoj politici u svetlu svetske ekonomske krize učestvuju sindikalci, privrednici i predstavnici vlada zemalja regiona i Evropske unije koji će u naredna dva dana govoriti o merama koje se sprovode kako bi se najugroženije socijalne kategorije zaštitile od posledica globalne krize.
"Kao u vreme Ante Markovića"
Na prostorima bivše SFRJ jedan od najpopularnijih političara svih vremena, Ante Marković, tu laskavu titulu stekao je uspešnim zaustavljanjem inflacije i brzim i velikim povećanjem životnog standarda.
Iako visok standard nije dugo trajao, mnogi kada ih i danas pitate kada se živelo najbolje, kažu - u vreme Ante Markovića.
"Korak ka blagostanju", "Sigurnost", "Dobra mi je bila plata", "Imali smo sve" - ovako Beograđani sa kojima je B92 razgovarao opisuju vreme kada je premijer SFR Jugoslavije bio Ante Marković.
Visoki standard i velika kupovna moć osnovne su im asocijacija na to vreme kojeg se sećaju sa nostalgijom.
Svojim ekonomskim programom Marković je zaustavio inflaciju, a dinar je prvi put postao konvertibilan.
Spoljni dug zemlje je smanjen, a devizne rezerve povećane čak 10 puta.
Gostujući u vestima TV B92, ekonomista Stojan Stamenković, koji je bio u timu Markovića, navodi da je najznačajnije to što su predviđene mere bile sveobuhvatne.
"To je bio prvi kompletan i kompleksan program tranzicije u svetu. On je povukao stabilizacione poteze i moram da vam kažem, ta stabilizacija je bila probušena već na samom početku", rekao je Stamenković.
"Ja sam bio svedok u Skupštini, Srbija je blokirala 10 dana mere o zamrzavanju plata i mere o organičavanju javne potrošnje", kaže on.
Stamenković podseća da su samo u to vreme prosečne plate u Srbiji bile oko 30 odsto veće nego u Sloveniji i smatra da je program Markovića propao jer je ekonomski prosperitet bio u drugom planu zbog nacionalnih programa tadašnjih republika SFRJ.
A KOLIKO JE KRIZA ZAJEBANA GOVORI I OVA VEST:
Recesija pogodila i Festival u Kanu
Čuveni filmski festival u Kanu osetiće posledice svetske recesije, jer su organizatori saopštili da će ovog maja gostima, umesto šampanjca i guščije paštete, biti služeni jeftiniji specijaliteti.
Holivudske zvezde i producenti će morati da se zadovolje penušavim rozeom i pitom sa lukom na ovogodišnjim okupljanjima, budući da su sponzori skresali budžet.
Čuveno francusko mondensko letovalište, poznato po raskošnim žurkama, idućeg meseca biće domaćin 62. filmskog festivala koji već sada organizatori najavljuju kao mnogo skromniju smotru od prethodnih, piše londonski "Telegraf".
Mnogi poznati sponzori, među kojima su modne kuće Fendi i Luj Viton kao i proizvođač nakita Svarovski, povukli su sponzorstvo.
Firme za iznajmljivanje jahti beleže pad interesovanja klijenata koji ovog puta rentiraju brodove na mnogo kraći rok, dok hotelijeri kažu da još ima slobodnih soba iako se festival približava.
Kriza se oseća i u poslovanju frizera, ali i službi za ketering, koje se žale da klijenti radije naručuju vino nego šampanjac.
Ante je sinoć u Dnevniku pokazan kako izgovara jednu scary istinu predstavnicima vlada iz ex-YU: Fale nam kvalitetni ljudi. U vladama.
To je možda najbolja definicija štete koju smo sebi naneli ratovanjem. Pre ratovanja su u vladajućim strukturama bili karijeristi i poltroni ali si imao kvalitetnije ljude u samoj zemlji. Tokom rata ti kvalitetniji su zapalili. Sada imaš osetan manjak kvalitetnijeg kadra a i kad se pojave, udave se u moru mediokriteta i karijerista koji na sve način nastoje da očuvaju sebi primeren ambijent...
Mislim, neću da kažem da je Dan Tana sad neki svetac or samting, ali, jebote, to je uspešan poslovni čovek koji je u Americi tokom nekoliko decenija razvio sopstveni biznis. Taj i takav DT je izdržao na čelu Zvezde koliko? Dva meseca?
Matori sere. U vladama nikad neće biti kvalitetni ljudi.
Radi se o tome da se šteta koji nanose kadrovi u partijskim državicama umanji; tako se skida pokrov, tako se pozencijali oslobađaju.
Ogromni kapaciteti svakodnevno biju iste male bitke, bez značajnih pomeranja. Na kraju odu u spoljnu ili unutrašnju emigraciju.
Uzgred, izgleda da je neko imao genijalnu ideju da Markovića uvrsti kao nekog savetnika... Gomila budalaština i laži u medijima ličila je na kampanju. Recimo, ono da su devizne rezerve uvećane 10x...
Njegova godinica bila je lepa za život i ekonomski pogubna.
Quote from: "Meho Krljic"
Mislim, neću da kažem da je Dan Tana sad neki svetac or samting, ali, jebote, to je uspešan poslovni čovek koji je u Americi tokom nekoliko decenija razvio sopstveni biznis. Taj i takav DT je izdržao na čelu Zvezde koliko? Dva meseca?
Izdrzao je i duze, nazalost, i radio je katastrofalno. Ne moze gola cinjenica da je neko "napolju" nesto dobro uradio da bude apriori preporuka i alibi za lose poslovanje. Jer, i napolju je puno korupcije, protekcionastva, strancarenja, uvlacenja i podmetanja i sl. Svakom po zasluzi, sa jednakim poslovnim kriterijumima. To je jedini ispravan nacin..
Ako se ne varam, Dan Tana je držao kafanu. To mu ne daje nikakvo znanje ni o fudbalu, niti o drugim delatnostima.
Quote from: "Cornelius"Ako se ne varam, Dan Tana je držao kafanu. To mu ne daje nikakvo znanje ni o fudbalu, niti o drugim delatnostima.
bre, kornelije, ti kao da ne znaš da se u kafanama popije više mudrosti nego rakije!
tamo sede najveći experti za politiku, filmsku kritiku i fuzbal!
ko je njih godinama slušao i pažljivo beležio, taj je zajebo svakog doktora nauka.
eno, recimo, onaj dr ABN, koji nasred naučne konferencije izloži nekakvu kafansku priču!
što onda ne bi kafanski čovek na čelu reprezentacije bio – vrhunski selektor?!
:shock:
QuoteDate and place of birth:
26.05.1935, in Čibutkovica, Serbia
Football Career: He started his football career in junior team of FC ,,Red Star", later moving on to FC ,,Bokelj" Montenegro.
In 1953, he becomes a professional player, signing with prestigious Belgian club ,,Anderlecht". After that, he moves on to then West Germany and FC ,,Hanover". The next transfer for him is to Canadian FC ,,Hakhoah" in Montreal.
He spent his last days as a professional player in Yugoslavia-American FC ,,San Pedro" from California.
Business Career:
After retiring as a professional football player, in 1959, he becomes active in films – as a producer, actor and distributor. Amongst a large number of films, he actively participated in, many have been nominated for American and International awards, amongst which are Cannes Film Festival, Golden Globes and alike.
For his contributions to the film industry, in 1990, he was elected into the Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and Sciences in Hollywood.
He is a member of Academy Board which selects films, five foreign and domestic, for the Oscar nominations.
In 1964 in Hollywood, he opened an Italian restaurant which carries his name. "Dan Tana`s" Restaurant is a legendary Hollywood landmark and a place to see and to be seen.
In 1995, he was voted California`s restaurateur of the year.
Football clubs: Owner and General Manager of FC ,,LA Toros" (1967 - 1969) (NPSL)
Partner and President of FC ,,Brentford" from London (1972 - 1982) – (English professional league)
Football Forums
and Organizations:
ISL International Soccer League, partner and one of the founders (1962-1966)
AYSO – Founder of American children's football organization (1966.)
NPSL – One of the founding members (first American professional football league 1967)
F.A. – The Football Association of England. Chairman of the Committee in charge of negotiating media rights. Member of FA Cup Committee, Member of International Committee and Member of Match and Grounds Committee (1975-1982)
World Cup 1994. – Chief adviser to Mr. Alan Rothenberg, the President of World Cup 1994 in USA (1990 - 1995).
FSJ, FS SCG i FSS – Member of National Football Committee from 1990 to 2008. President of International Committee of Football Association of Serbia and Montenegro (1990 - 2008).
ECA – European Club Association - Member of a working group.
UEFA – Member of the Marketing Committee (1998 - 2002).
FK Crvena zvezda – Member of the Governing Board during Presidents Dragan Džajić, Dragan Stojković-Piksi and Toplica Spasojević.
In September 2008 he becomes acting President of FC ,,Red Star" and on November 13th, same year, is elected to his current position of President, serving a five year term.
Humanitarian Work:
Dan Tana Foundation – scholarship program for the most talented football (soccer) players at UCLA.
Patronage of St. George's church at his place of birth.
Family: Wife Biljana and daughters Gabrielle and Katerina
Languages: English, Russian, French, German
Ovakvog čoveka ste našli da diskvalifikujete :cry:
Quote from: "cutter"Ovakvog čoveka ste našli da diskvalifikujete :cry:
Pa, on ima veću karijeru nego ja u LK! :x
Quote from: "scallop"Quote from: "cutter"Ovakvog čoveka ste našli da diskvalifikujete :cry:
Pa, on ima veću karijeru nego ja u LK! :x
znači, ništa od tvoje selektorske fotelje? :cry:
Quote from: "Ghoul"Quote from: "scallop"Quote from: "cutter"Ovakvog čoveka ste našli da diskvalifikujete :cry:
Pa, on ima veću karijeru nego ja u LK! :x
znači, ništa od tvoje selektorske fotelje? :cry:
Jok, tebe će da uzmu. Kad dostigneš slavu ABN-a. :evil:
Jedan od poslednjih eksera u kovčeg Zvezde zabijen je dolaskom te matore budaletine na čelo kluba.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D44kISPT6_U&feature=related
Umesto koncerta održao govor protiv Amerike
Poznati svetski pijanista iz Poljske Kristijan Cimerman pre koncerta u Los Anđelesu održao oštar antiamerički govor. "Ne mogu da sviram za naciju čija vojska želi da kontroliše ceo svet. Dalje ruke od moje zemlje", rekao je Cimerman.
Poljski pijanista svetskog glasa Kristijan Cimerman izazvao je burnu kontroverzu prilikom svog nastupa u "Volt Diznijevoj" dvorani u Los Anđelesu, održavši oštar antiamerički govor.
Pre početka izvođenja poslednjeg dela svog recitala, Cimerman je na trenutak ćutke sedeo za klavirom i umesto da počne da svira neočekivano se okrenuo prema publici.
Mirnim, ali ljutitim glasom obratio joj se sledećim rečima: "Ne mogu da sviram za naciju čija vojska želi da kontroliše ceo svet. Dalje ruke od moje zemlje!".
Na njegove optužbe, koje su bile upućene i na račun zatvora u Gvantanamu, publika je odgovorila zvižducima i psovkama, a mnoge osobe su demonstrativno napustile salu.
Među onima koji su ostali u sali mnogi su aplaudirali.
"Amerika ima mnogo lepših stvari za izvoz od vojske", rekao je Cimerman, zahvalivši se onima koji podržavaju demokratiju.
Nakon koncerta, Cimerman je izjavio da je to njegov poslednji nastup u Americi i odbio svaki drugi komentar.
A jeli rekao nešto u vremenima kada mu je zemlja bila u gvozdenom zagrljaju pracoslavne slavjanske braće sa istoka? :twisted:
Pa jeste,ali ga to ne sprečava da vidi kada se skače iz tiganja u vatru,a ne treba ni brkati Sovjetski Savez sa pravoslavnom Rusijom.Boljševičko ropstvo nije opravdanje ni za kakvo novo.Uostalom,čovek je Jevrejin
Ne znam da li je ova informacija za ovde, ali možda i jeste:
AGFA, kao vlasnik placa na Long Ajlendu, gde još stoji Teslina prototip laboratorija sa memorijalnom pločom postavljenom 1976 god. na 120-tu godišnjicu njegovog rođenja, ponuđena je na prodaju po ceni od 1,5 miliona dolara "delivered fully cleared and level,". To znači "zaravnjeno i utabano". Pojedini Ameri već protestvuju, pa sam se i ja sa svojim trapavim engleskim pridružio. Članak imate u online verziji "New York Times".
Ako memorijalna ploča ne donosi prihode šta drugo kapitalista da uradi sem da smanji troškove. Drma kriza... Mogle bi Srbija i Hrvatska zajedno da skupe pare pa da otkupe to zemljište bez zaravnjavanja. Ako smo imali milionče za onog kabadahiju, valjda može da se skupi $750000 za najvećeg srpskog naučnika...
Quote from: mac on 05-05-2009, 18:30:12
Ako smo imali milionče za onog kabadahiju, valjda može da se skupi $750000 za najvećeg srpskog naučnika...
eh, scientists! what do they know?!
Zanimljiv tekst Cvetana Todorova iz danasnjeg Liberation. Razmatra kako su Amerikanci sistematski primenjivali mucenje ideoloskih i politickih protivnika, a izvrsioce tih mucenja su poducavali i uvezbavali kao sto se poducava bilo koji zanatlija. Zakljucak je zanimljiv i univerzalan da su svi ti dobrovoljci mucili ljude u ime "odbrane otadzbine" ili neke druge moralne "obaveze", sto znaci, ako su ljudi pravilno kondicionirani, oni mogu da izvrse bilo koje zverstvo u ime "visih ciljeva".
LIBERATION 05/05/09
De braves Américains devenus tortionnaires
Tzvetan Todorov directeur de recherches honoraire au CNRS, historien et essayiste.
Les documents rendus publics le 16 avril par l'administration Obama, relatifs aux pratiques de torture dans les prisons de la CIA, jettent une nouvelle lumière sur une question : comment s'expliquer la facilité avec laquelle les personnes œuvrant au nom du gouvernement des Etats-Unis ont pu accepter et pratiquer la torture à l'endroit de leurs prisonniers ? Les faits même de la torture étaient déjà bien connus mais les nouveaux documents apportent de nombreuses informations sur la manière dont se déroulaient les séances de torture et dont celle-ci était perçue par ses agents. Ce qui frappe avant tout, c'est la découverte d'une réglementation incroyablement tatillonne, formulée dans les manuels de la CIA et reprise par les responsables juridiques du gouvernement. On pouvait s'imaginer jusque-là que les pratiques de torture relevaient de ce qu'on appelle les bavures, dépassements involontaires des normes provoqués par l'urgence du moment. On s'aperçoit au contraire qu'il s'agit de procédures fixées dans les moindres détails, au centimètre et à la seconde près.
Ainsi, les formes de torture sont au nombre de dix, lequel monte ensuite à treize. Elles sont réparties en trois catégories : préparatives (nudité, alimentation manipulée, privation de sommeil), correctives (les coups) et coercitives (arrosage d'eau, enfermement dans des boîtes, supplice de la baignoire). Pour les gifles, l'interrogateur doit frapper avec les doigts écartés, à égale distance entre l'extrémité du menton et le bas du lobe de l'oreille. L'arrosage d'eau du prisonnier nu peut durer vingt minutes si l'eau est à 5 °C, quarante si elle est à 10 °C, et jusqu'à soixante si elle est à 15 °C. Les privations de sommeil ne doivent pas dépasser 180 heures, mais, après un repos de huit heures, elles peuvent recommencer. L'immersion dans la baignoire peut durer jusqu'à douze secondes, pas plus de deux heures par jour, pendant trente jours consécutifs (un prisonnier coriace a subi ce supplice à 183 reprises en mars 2003). L'enfermement dans une petite boîte ne doit pas dépasser deux heures, mais si la boîte permet au prisonnier de se tenir debout, on peut aller jusqu'à huit heures de suite, dix-huit heures par jour.
On apprend aussi en quoi consiste l'entraînement des tortionnaires. La majorité de ces tortures est copiée du programme que suivent les soldats américains qui se préparent à affronter des situations extrêmes (cela permet aux responsables de conclure que ces épreuves sont parfaitement supportables). Plus important, les tortionnaires eux-mêmes sont choisis parmi ceux qui ont eu «une expérience scolaire prolongée» de ces épreuves extrêmes, autrement dit : les tortionnaires ont été, dans un premier temps, torturés eux-mêmes. A la suite de quoi, un stage intensif de quatre semaines suffit pour les préparer à leur nouveau travail.
Les partenaires indispensables des tortionnaires sont les conseillers juridiques du gouvernement, qui sont là pour assurer l'impunité légale de leurs collègues. Cela aussi est une nouveauté : la torture n'est plus représentée comme une infraction à la norme commune, regrettable mais excusable, elle est la norme légale même. Les juristes recourent pour cela à une autre série de techniques. Pour échapper à la loi, il faut conduire les interrogatoires à l'extérieur des Etats-Unis, même si c'est dans des bases américaines. On suggérera donc aux tortionnaires de nier l'intention de faire souffrir. Ainsi les gifles ne seront pas données afin de produire une douleur, mais pour provoquer la surprise et l'humiliation. L'enfermement dans une boîte n'aura pas pour but d'entraîner un désordre sensoriel, mais de donner au prisonnier un sentiment d'inconfort ! Le bourreau doit toujours insister sur sa «bonne foi», ses «croyances honnêtes» et ses prémisses raisonnables. Il faut utiliser des euphémismes : «techniques renforcées» pour torture, «expert en interrogatoire» pour tortionnaire. Il faut aussi éviter de laisser des traces matérielles, et pour cette raison la destruction mentale est préférable aux dégâts physiques ; les éventuelles captations visuelles des séances seront détruites après-coup.
Plusieurs autres groupes de professionnels sont impliqués dans la pratique de torture : la contagion se répand bien au-delà du cercle limité des tortionnaires. En dehors des juristes fournissant une légitimation à leurs actes, sont régulièrement mentionnés des psychologues, des psychiatres, des médecins (obligatoirement présents au cours de chaque séance), des femmes (les tortionnaires sont des hommes, mais l'avilissement sous le regard des femmes aggrave l'humiliation), des professeurs d'université produisant les justifications morales, légales ou philosophiques.
Qui, aujourd'hui, doit être tenu pour responsable de ces perversions de la loi et des principes moraux les plus élémentaires ? Les exécutants volontaires de la torture le sont moins que les hauts fonctionnaires légaux les ayant justifiées et encouragées ; et ceux-ci, moins que les décideurs politiques qui leur ont demandé de le faire. Les gouvernements étrangers amis, et notamment européens, portent eux aussi une responsabilité : alors qu'ils ont toujours été au courant de ces pratiques, et ont bénéficié des informations obtenues par ce moyen, ils n'ont jamais élevé la moindre protestation, ni même signifié leur désapprobation. Dans une démocratie, la condamnation des hommes politiques consiste à les priver du pouvoir, en ne les faisant pas réélire. Quant aux autres professionnels, on pourrait s'attendre à ce qu'ils soient sanctionnés par leurs pairs, car qui voudrait être l'étudiant d'un tel professeur ? Le justiciable d'un tel juge ? Le patient d'un tel médecin ?
Si l'on veut comprendre pourquoi ces braves Américains ont accepté si facilement de devenir tortionnaires, point n'est besoin de chercher du côté d'une haine ou d'une peur ancestrale des musulmans et des Arabes. Non, la situation est bien plus grave. La leçon de ces révélations est plutôt que n'importe quel homme, à condition d'être bien encadré, obéissant aux nobles principes dictés par le «sens du devoir», par la nécessaire «défense de la patrie» ou mû par l'élémentaire peur pour la vie et le bien-être des siens, peut devenir un tortionnaire.
Quote from: Cornelius on 05-05-2009, 20:06:55
Zanimljiv tekst Cvetana Todorova iz danasnjeg Liberation. Razmatra kako su Amerikanci sistematski primenjivali mucenje ideoloskih i politickih protivnika, a izvrsioce tih mucenja su poducavali i uvezbavali kao sto se poducava bilo koji zanatlija. Zakljucak je zanimljiv i univerzalan da su svi ti dobrovoljci mucili ljude u ime "odbrane otadzbine" ili neke druge moralne "obaveze", sto znaci, ako su ljudi pravilno kondicionirani, oni mogu da izvrse bilo koje zverstvo u ime "visih ciljeva".
Jel' to onaj Gulov Cvetko što ga je Lem lemao još 1973. godine? Ako jeste, to je scientifique!
šta si zapeo za gulovog cvetka kao gluv u gajde?
Quote from: scallop on 05-05-2009, 20:56:20
Jel' to onaj Gulov Cvetko što ga je Lem lemao još 1973. godine?
Jes, taj Cvetko. Gulov Cvetko Blgarin.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/03/us/03nuke.html?_r=2&hp
U.S. Releases Secret List of Nuclear Sites Accidentally
By WILLIAM J. BROAD
Published: June 2, 2009
The federal government mistakenly made public a 266-page report, its pages marked "highly confidential," that gives detailed information about hundreds of the nation's civilian nuclear sites and programs, including maps showing the precise locations of stockpiles of fuel for nuclear weapons.
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The publication of the document was revealed Monday in an online newsletter devoted to issues of federal secrecy. That set off a debate among nuclear experts about what dangers, if any, the disclosures posed. It also prompted a flurry of investigations in Washington into why the document had been made public.
On Tuesday evening, after inquiries from The New York Times, the document was withdrawn from a Government Printing Office Web site.
Several nuclear experts argued that any dangers from the disclosure were minimal, given that the general outlines of the most sensitive information were already known publicly.
"These screw-ups happen," said John M. Deutch, a former director of central intelligence and deputy secretary of defense who is now a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "It's going further than I would have gone but doesn't look like a serious breach."
But David Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security, a private group in Washington that tracks nuclear proliferation, said information that shows where nuclear fuels are stored "can provide thieves or terrorists inside information that can help them seize the material, which is why that kind of data is not given out."
The information, considered confidential but not classified, was assembled for transmission later this year to the International Atomic Energy Agency as part of a process by which the United States is opening itself up to stricter inspections in hopes that foreign countries, especially Iran and others believed to be clandestinely developing nuclear arms, will do likewise.
President Obama sent the document to Congress on May 5 for Congressional review and possible revision, and the Government Printing Office subsequently posted the draft declaration on its Web site.
As of Tuesday evening, the reasons for that action remained a mystery. On its cover, the document attributes its publication to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. But Lynne Weil, the committee spokeswoman, said the committee had "neither published it nor had control over its publication."
Gary Somerset, a spokesman for the printing office, said it had "produced" the document "under normal operating procedures" but had now removed it from its Web site pending further review.
The document contains no military information about the nation's stockpile of nuclear arms, or about the facilities and programs that guard such weapons. Rather, it presents what appears to be an exhaustive listing of the sites that make up the nation's civilian nuclear complex, which stretches coast to coast and includes nuclear reactors and highly confidential sites at weapon laboratories.
Steven Aftergood, a security expert at the Federation of American Scientists in Washington, revealed the existence of the document on Monday in Secrecy News, an electronic newsletter he publishes on the Web.
Mr. Aftergood expressed bafflement at its disclosure, calling it "a one-stop shop for information on U.S. nuclear programs."
In his letter of transmittal to Congress, Mr. Obama characterized the information as "sensitive but unclassified" and said all the information that the United States gathered to comply with the advanced protocol "shall be exempt from disclosure" under the Freedom of Information Act.
The report details the locations of hundreds of nuclear sites and activities. Each page is marked across the top "Highly Confidential Safeguards Sensitive" in capital letters, with the exception of pages that detailed additional information like site maps. In his transmittal letter, Mr. Obama said the cautionary language was a classification category of the International Atomic Energy Agency's inspectors.
The agency, in Vienna, is a unit of the United Nations whose mandate is to enforce a global treaty that tries to keep civilian nuclear programs from engaging in secret military work.
In recent years, it has sought to gain wide adherence to a set of strict inspection rules, known formally as the additional protocol. The rules give the agency powerful new rights to poke its nose beyond known nuclear sites into factories, storage areas, laboratories and anywhere else that a nation might be preparing to flex its nuclear muscle. The United States signed the agreement in 1998 but only recently moved forward with carrying it out.
The report lists many particulars about nuclear programs and facilities at the nation's three nuclear weapons laboratories — Los Alamos, Livermore and Sandia — as well as dozens of other federal and private nuclear sites.
One of the most serious disclosures appears to center on the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee, which houses the Y-12 National Security Complex, a sprawling site ringed by barbed wire and armed guards. It calls itself the nation's Fort Knox for highly enriched uranium, a main fuel of nuclear arms.
The report lists "Tube Vault 16, East Storage Array," as a prospective site for nuclear inspection. It said the site, in Building 9720-5, contains highly enriched uranium for "long-term storage."
An attached map shows the exact location of Tube Vault 16 along a hallway and its orientation in relation to geographic north, although not its location in the Y-12 complex.
Tube vaults are typically cylinders embedded in concrete that prevent the accidental formation of critical masses of highly enriched uranium that could undergo bursts of nuclear fission, known as a criticality incident. According to federal reports, a typical tube vault can hold up to 44 tons of highly enriched uranium in 200 tubes. Motion detectors and television cameras typically monitor each vault.
Thomas B. Cochran, a senior scientist in the nuclear program of the Natural Resources Defense Council, a private group in Washington that tracks atomic arsenals, called the document harmless. "It's a better listing than anything I've seen" of the nation's civilian nuclear complex, Mr. Cochran said. "But it's no national-security breach. It confirms what's already out there and adds a bit more information."
Bankrotirala drzava Kalifornija. Vise ne placa racune i nema nikakav plan budzeta. Guvernator je pokusao da skine troskove, seckajuci troskove administracije i drasticno sekuci troskove skolstva (oko 10 milijardi), ali opet su otisli u supak. Svidja mi se kako resava krizu - oduzmimo od skolovanja. Cinjenica je da ima pravo - sto vise znas, vise patis. Tako, kada budu znali samo malobrojni, patnja ce biti redukovana na elitu. Ostali ce se drogirati i medjusobno ubijati.
"Cipelić" pušten iz zatvora
15.09.2009. - 12:52
Irački novinar koji je cipelom gađao bivšeg američkog predsednika Džordža Buša pušten je iz zatvora, izjavio je njegov brat, a prenose svetske agencije.
Muntadar al-Zeidi je trebalo da bude oslobođen u ponedeljak, ali je oslobađanje odloženo zbog administrativnih formalnosti.
NOVINAR Brojni članovi uže i šire porodice Al-Zeidija došli su ispred zatvora da ga dočekaju noseći njegove slike i iračke zastave kao i veliki broj iračkih i stranih novinara koji su došli da izveštavaju o tom događaju.
Al Zeidi, manje poznati izveštač jedne iračke tv stanice je prošlog decembra postao neka vrsta heroja u arapskom svetu. Tokom zajedničke konferencije za novinare Buša i iračkog premijera, al-Zeidi je skočio sa stolice, pa prvo jednom a potom i drugom svojom cipelom gađao američkog predsednika.
Buš je uspeo na vreme da se pomeri pa su cipele promašile cilj.
Al-Zeidi je istovremeno viknuo Bušu: "ovo ti je oproštajni pozdrav, psino! Ovo ti je od udovica, siročadi i svih izginulih u Iraku!".
On je osuđen na tri godine zatvore zbog uvrede, ali je kazna smanjena na godinu dana zbog toga što nije osuđivan. Al-Zeidi je oslobođen tri meseca ranije zbog dobrog vladanja.
Zaidi odlazi u Grčku zbog straha za svoj život
Irački novinar Muntazer al-Zaidi, koji je krajem prošle godine gađao cipelama američkog predsednika Džordža Buša na konferenciji za novinare u Bagdadu, izjavio je danas, nakon puštanja iz zatvora, da će zbog straha za svoj život napustiti Irak i otići u Grčku. "Ja sam slobodan, ali je moja zemlja i dalje okupirana", rekao je Zaidi na konferenciji za novinare, tvrdeći da je u zatvoru maltretiran i tučen.
"Tukli su me cevima, čeličnim kablovima i mučili elektro šokovima", kazao je irački novinar, dok su njegovi rođaci objasnili da će on otići u Grčku gde će dobiti medicinsku negu,javljaju agencije. Tokom konferencije za novinare u decembru 2008. u Bagdadu, novinar Al-Zaidi je gađao cipelama Buša, nazvavši ga "psom", ali je predsednik izbegao udarce. Al-Zaidi je optužen za napad na stranog držnika, pa je prvobitno osuđen na tri godine zatvora, ali mu je kazna umanjena na devet meseci, koja mu je istekla.
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Quote from: Cornelius on 03-07-2009, 14:49:13
Bankrotirala drzava Kalifornija. Vise ne placa racune i nema nikakav plan budzeta. Guvernator je pokusao da skine troskove, seckajuci troskove administracije i drasticno sekuci troskove skolstva (oko 10 milijardi), ali opet su otisli u supak. Svidja mi se kako resava krizu - oduzmimo od skolovanja. Cinjenica je da ima pravo - sto vise znas, vise patis. Tako, kada budu znali samo malobrojni, patnja ce biti redukovana na elitu. Ostali ce se drogirati i medjusobno ubijati.
Ah pa to se i kod nas desava. Bankrot se blizi, a vlada je momentalno pocela da kasapi obrazovni sistem. Kapitalisticke krize pokazuju da treba da se predje na neki novi sistem drustvenog organizovanja, koji nije socijalizam a ni kapitalizam. Inace nema napretka, niti cemo moci u proseku mirno da spavamo, brinuci se za posao, i novcane prihode.
Novac je najgore zlo.
treba da se predje na neki novi sistem? aha, onaj izvorni. na onaj kojim svi sistemi zavrse: prirodni
ustvari, ne sjecam se niti jednog drugog sistema.
ps: mogu li ti poslati broj tekuceg racuna na pm da mi posaljes svoje zlo? ja, hm, tamanim zlo.
Postojeći sistem, u kome banke uspevaju da novac stvore ni iz čega, bez odobrenja centralnog tela za štampanje novca, pokazuje se kao problematičan na duge staze. Ja bih u tom novom i lepšem sistemu takođe teško regulisao svako tržište hartija od vrednosti (berze). Sva ta tržišta prave nešto "od ništa", što prosto nije normalno.
Quote from: mac on 16-09-2009, 00:31:51
Postojeći sistem, u kome banke uspevaju da novac stvore ni iz čega, bez odobrenja centralnog tela za štampanje novca, pokazuje se kao problematičan na duge staze.
Osim kad samo to centralno telo ne počne da pravi pare ni iz čega?
Onda imamo problem i na kratke staze :-)
To je problem sa parama u principu, dok je para biće nekog ko će ih štampati. Ako je već tako bolje da postoji samo jedna tačka iz koje dolaze pare ni iz čega, nego da svaka banka to radi.
Nacionalni Trezor u SAD nije u vlasništvu Države. Oni koji prodaju rog za sveću, proizvode rogove od sveća.
sve ce to rijesiti jedna prirodna inflacija.
Quote from: zosko on 16-09-2009, 00:04:15
treba da se predje na neki novi sistem? aha, onaj izvorni. na onaj kojim svi sistemi zavrse: prirodni
ustvari, ne sjecam se niti jednog drugog sistema.
ps: mogu li ti poslati broj tekuceg racuna na pm da mi posaljes svoje zlo? ja, hm, tamanim zlo.
Da. Svakako da ni meni ne bi nista falilo da mi na racun legne neko milionce. Medjutim ako razmislis shvatices da ogromna vecina ljudi to nikada ne dozivi. A to znaci da ogromna vecina ljudi celoga zovpta vise juri za zaradom nego sto ima vremena i dovoljne zarade da je potrosi onako i onoliko koliko zeli.
Tako da ovaj sistem odgovara samo malobrojnim vlasnicima svetskog kapitala i malobrojnima koji su do nekog veceg novca u zivotu dosli.
Da je novac shvacen zaista kao merilo vrednosti, a ne kao roba, to se ne bi desavalo.
Kada bi se uspostavio sistem kontrole drustva u kojem novac ne bi postojao, a gde svako radi koliko moze, a dobija (ne koliko treba) nego koliko po mogucnostima zasluzuje, ziveli bi u prilicno srecnom drustvu.
Govorim o nekoj vrsti tehnoloski napredne prvobitne ljudske zajednice organizovane na planetarnom nivou :)
ma lijepo to zvuci, no ljudi su dosta stoka; tako sve/i krasne/i ideje/sistemi uvijek skoncaju u isti sistem: prirodni
Quote from: zosko on 17-09-2009, 00:10:22
ma lijepo to zvuci, no ljudi su dosta stoka; tako sve/i krasne/i ideje/sistemi uvijek skoncaju u isti sistem: prirodni
Ovo je za pobenavit! Potpuno se slažem sa ovim stavom. :o
Obama, Reaguj ! xtwak
G20 Riot Police Assault Young Couple (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPeXRozN6vQ#ws-normal)
G20 Protest - UPitt (exclusive footage) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXXiO7hssKI#normal)
Oslo, Vašington -- Američki predsednik Barak Obama dobio je ovogodišnju Nobelovu nagradu za mir, saopštio je norveški komitet za dodelu ove nagrade. xfuck5
Imao je barem toliko savesti da kaze da je nije zasluzio :(.
Predsednik najvece svetske imperije, koja vodi istovremeno nekoliko ratova, ima vojne baze i stotine hiljada vojnika sirom sveta, dobija Nobelovu nagradu za mir ..
Ali kad se setim i Ahtisarija, stvarno mi se cini da ova nagrada gubi smisao. Mozda je iduce godine dodele Ramusu Haradinaju, ne bi me zacudilo :shock:.
pa ta Nobelova nagrada postade ko ona ruska knjizevna sto je dobi mira markovic/namerno pisem mala slova,a da ce SAD propasti i da se to desi,obnovice se na neki drugi nacin,to bi najvise voleo onaj debeljak Majkl Mur,ps cuo sam da Cak Noris ima neku politicku organizaciju za nezavisni Teksas,haha --pre 2 nedelje bila je frka kod Amera jer se neka obezbedjenje firma malo osilila u nekom gradicu,posto je osnivac nasih korena,koristili su grb nase zemlje,no mozda su ga sad promenili ,link sledi,zamisli hodas pustinjom a ono dzip sa 4 ocila--natripujesh se ladno
eto sad uzese drugi grb,kakvi su to carevi ,evo ih,imaju na you tube bas snimci dzipova sa 4 ocila http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/ (http://www.americanpolicegroup.com/)
mislite da ovako nešto može samo u srbiji?
THINK AGAIN!
PILOTI ZASPALI I PROMAŠILI AERODROM ZA CIGLIH 150 MILJA TJ 240 KM (to je kao da su umesto u Bg sleteli na niški aerodrom!)
MINNEAPOLIS – The first officer of the Northwest Airlines jet that missed its destination by 150 miles says there was no fight in the cockpit, neither he nor the captain had fallen asleep and the passengers were never in any danger.
But in an interview with The Associated Press two days after he and a colleague blew past their destination as air traffic controllers tried frantically to reach them, pilot Richard Cole would not say just what it was that led to them to forget to land Flight 188.
"It was not a serious event, from a safety issue," Cole said in front of his Salem, Ore., home. "I would tell you more, but I've already told you way too much."
Air traffic controllers and pilots tried for more than an hour Wednesday night to contact Cole and the flight's captain, Timothy B. Cheney, of Gig Harbor, Wash., using radio, cell phone and data messages. On the ground, concerned officials alerted National Guard jets to prepare to chase the airliner from two locations, though none of the military planes left the runway.
"We were not asleep; we were not having an argument; we were not having a fight," Cole told The Associated Press.
He would not discuss why it took so long for the pilots to respond to radio calls, "but I can tell you that airplanes lose contact with the ground people all the time. It happens. Sometimes they get together right away; sometimes it takes awhile before one or the other notices that they are not in contact."
The Minneapolis Star Tribune, citing an internal Northwest document it said was described to the newspaper, reported that Cheney and Cole began what was to be a five-day flying stint Tuesday with a flight from Minneapolis to San Diego. The newspaper said the pair had a 19-hour layover before Wednesday's return flight.
A police report released Friday said the pilots passed breathalyzer tests and were apologetic after the flight. The report also said that the crew indicated they had been having a heated discussion about airline policy.
But aviation safety experts and other pilots were deeply skeptical they could have become so distracted by shop talk that they forgot to land an airplane carrying 144 passengers. The most likely possibility, they said, is that the pilots simply fell asleep somewhere along their route from San Diego.
"It certainly is a plausible explanation," said Bill Voss, president of the Flight Safety Foundation in Alexandria, Va.
Unfortunately, the cockpit voice recorder may not tell the tale.
New recorders retain as much as two hours of cockpit conversation and other noise, but the older model aboard Northwest's Flight 188 includes just the last 30 minutes — only the very end of Wednesday night's flight after the pilots realized their error over Wisconsin and were heading back to Minneapolis.
Cheney and Cole have been suspended and are to be interviewed by National Transportation Safety Board investigators next week. The airline, acquired last year by Delta Air Lines, is also investigating. Messages left at Cheney's home were not returned.
FAA spokesman Tony Molinaro said in general, an unsafe condition created by a pilot could lead to the suspension of the person's pilot license and possibly a civil penalty.
With worries about terrorists still high, even after contact was re-established, air traffic controllers asked the crew to prove who they were by executing turns.
"Controllers have a heightened sense of vigilance when we're not able to talk to an aircraft. That's the reality post-9/11," said Doug Church, a spokesman for the National Air Traffic Controllers Association.
NTSB spokesman Keith Holloway said fatigue and cockpit distraction will be looked into. The plane's flight recorders were brought to the board's Washington headquarters.
The pilots were finally alerted to their situation when a flight attendant called on an intercom from the cabin.
Voss said a special concern was that the many safety checks built into the aviation system to prevent incidents like this one — or to correct them quickly — apparently were ineffective until the very end. Not only couldn't air traffic controllers and other pilots raise the Northwest pilots for an hour, but the airline's dispatcher should have been trying to reach them as well. The three flight attendants onboard should have questioned why there were no preparations for landing being made. Brightly lit cockpit displays should have warned the pilots it was time to land.
"It's probably something you would say never would happen if this hadn't just happened," Voss said.
FORT HOOD, Texas – An Army psychiatrist set to be shipped overseas opened fire at the Fort Hood Army post Thursday, authorities said, a rampage that killed 12 people and left 31 wounded in the worst mass shooting ever at a military base in the United States.
The gunman, first said to have been killed, was wounded but alive and in stable condition under military guard, said Lt. Gen. Bob Cone at Fort Hood. "I would say his death is not imminent," Cone said. Col. Ben Danner said the suspect was shot four times and was in critical condition.
The man was identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, a 39-year-old from Virginia.
President Barack Obama called the shooting at the Soldier Readiness Center, where soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are returning undergo medical screening, "a horrific outburst of violence."
"It's difficult enough when we lose these brave Americans in battles overseas," the commander in chief said. "It is horrifying that they should come under fire at an Army base on American soil." xyxy :evil:
There was no official word on motive. Hasan had transferred to Fort Hood in July from Walter Reed Medical Center, where he received a poor performance evaluation, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case publicly.
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, said generals at Fort Hood told her that Hasan was about to deploy overseas. Retired Col. Terry Lee, who said he had worked with Hasan, told Fox News he was being sent to Afghanistan.
Lee said Hasan had hoped Obama would pull troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq and got into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars.
Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md., said he spoke often with Hasan about how Hasan wanted to find a wife. Hasan was a lifelong Muslim and attended prayers regularly, often in his Army uniform, Khan said.
The shooter used two pistols, one of them semiautomatic. Neither were military-issued, Danner said.
Video from the scene showed police patrolling the area with handguns and rifles, ducking behind buildings for cover. Sirens could be heard wailing while a woman's voice on a public-address system urged people to take cover.
"I was confused and just shocked," said Spc. Jerry Richard, 27, who works at the center but was not on duty during the shooting. "Overseas you are ready for it. But here you can't even defend yourself."
Soldiers at Fort Hood don't carry weapons unless they are doing training exercises.
The Rev. Greg Schannep was about to head into a graduation ceremony when a man in uniform approached him, warning him that someone had opened fire. Schannep heard three volleys of gunfire and saw people running.
"There was a burst of shots and more bursts of shots and people running everywhere," said Schannep, who works for local Congressman John Carter.
The uniformed man who had warned him ran to the theater. Schannep said he could see the man's back was bloodied from a wound. The man survived, was treated and will be fine, Schannep said.
Cone said initially three people were held, and all have been interviewed. Authorities believe, however, that there was a single shooter.
The Soldier Readiness Center holds hundreds of people and is one of the most populated parts of the base, said Steve Moore, a spokesman for III Corps at Fort Hood. Nearby there are barracks and a food center where there are fast food chains.
The wounded were dispersed among hospitals in central Texas, Cone said. Their identities, and the identities of the dead, were not immediately released.
Amber Bahr, 19, was shot in the stomach but was in stable condition, said her mother, Lisa Pfund of Random Lake, Wis.
"We know nothing, just that she was shot in the belly," Pfund told The Associated Press. She couldn't provide more details and only spoke with emergency personnel.
Hasan was single with no children. He graduated from Virginia Tech, where he was a member of the ROTC and earned a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 1997. He received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001 and was at Walter Reed for six years for his internship, residency and a fellowship.
The attack happened just down the road from one of the worst mass shootings in U.S. history. On Oct. 16, 1991, George Hennard smashed his pickup truck through a Luby's Cafeteria window in Killeen, Texas, and fired on the lunchtime crowd with a high-powered pistol, killing 22 people and wounding at least 20 others.
No other shooting at a military base in the U.S. has been anywhere near as deadly as Thursday's. In 1993, a gunman at Fort Knox shot five civilian co-workers, killing three, and then fatally shot himself.
Around the country, some bases stepped up security precautions, but no others were locked down.
Covering 339 square miles, Fort Hood is the largest active duty armored post in the United States. Home to about 52,000 troops as of earlier this year, it is located halfway between Austin and Waco.
a ja taman sa osmehom na licu pun odusevljenja po'itah da ovo postavim kad me Ghoul preteche :evil:
Inace nocas sam sanjo kako ratujemo mi, Rusija i Albanija (koju smo inace napali pa Siptari presli na nasu stranu da ne najebu) protiv Amerike, a koristimo i atomske, prizori su bili prajsles, raj za oci kakvih sve tu oruzija ima, a vozio sam se i u helikopteru :D
Biće Sine i u zbilji,strpi se malo...
Brate, sanjam osvajamo Pristinu al onako partzanski, i naravno koji fles kad smo usli u centar, ono rush sto bi se reklo, rusimo spomenik Klintonu, samo sto je jako zanimljivo sve se to zbiva u SAD, taj rat, Albanija se nalazi tamo negde gde je Dzordzija il' Alabama, dakle na jugu, a Srbija je otprilike nedje gde je Virginija ili North Carolina. Al mi napadamo dole i teramo amerikance, ameri begaju al dosta civila ubijaju, Rusi pomazu sa atomkama ali ih ima i u nasim redovima sa sve onim smesnim uniformama old school... :D
Dogodine u Prizrenu :evil:
Evo slike našeg idola.Čovek bre zaslužuje bar jednu ulicu u Srbiji.
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Vojni psiholog ubio 12, ranio 31 lice u bazi Fort Hud
Vojni psiholog koji se spremao da ode na dužnost u inostranstvo otvorio je juče vatru u vojnoj bazi Fort Hud u državi Teksas, i ubio 12 ljudi a 31 ranio, saopštili su danas zvaničnici
Fox interviews Col. Lee who worked with the Fort Hood shooter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urXa-iH9f1U&feature=related#normal)
Ovo je najgori napad ovog tipa koji se dogodio u vojnoj bazi unutar Sjedinjenih Država.
Napadač za koga je prvobitno rečeno da je ubijen, ranjen je i nalazi se u bolnici pod vojnom stražom, rekao je general Bob Koun iz Fort Huda.
Koun je rekao da je čovek, identifikovan kao major Nidal Malik Hasan, star 39 godina iz države Virdžinije, pogođen četiri puta, bez svesti i na veštačkim plućima.
Američki predsednik Barak Obama nazvao je ovaj napad "strašnim izlivom nasilja".
"Dovoljno je teško kada gubimo hrabre Amerikance u borbama u inostranstvu ali je zastrašujuće kada se na njih puca u vojnoj bazi na američkom tlu", rekao je Obama.
U bazi u Fort Hudu nalazi se i deo za pripremu vojnika za odlazak na dužnost van zemlje, kao i prihvat onih koji se vraćaju sa misija i prolaze kroz lekarske preglede.
Za sada se ne zna motiv ovog napada.
Pukovnik u penziji Teri Li je rekao za televiziju Foks Njuz da je radio sa Hasanom i da je on trebalo da bude poslat u Avganistan. Li je rekao da se Hasan nadao da će Obama povući američke trupe iz Avganistana i Iraka i da je često ulazio u rasprave sa vojnicima koji su podržavali te ratove.
Prvobitno je troje ljudi privedeno i svi su bili na razgovoru ali vlasti veruju da je bio samo jedan napadač. On je koristio dva pištolja, jedan od kojih je bio poluautomatski. Ni jedan nije izdala vojska.
Hasan je rođen u Vašingtonu, i neoženjen je. On je završio biohemiju 1997 na fakultetu Virdžinia Tek gde je bio član korpusa za obuku rezervnih oficira. Posle toga je završio medicinu na vojnom vakultetu u Betesdi, u državi Meriland.
Svega ovoga ne bi bilo da je Pera... pardon... da je Obmana povukao "hrabre Amerikance" iz Avganistana i Iraka.
Razmišlja li Obmana o ostavci? Toliko se očekivalo od prvog crnog precednika, slomiće srca mnogih širom sveta.
Epidemija? :evil:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/os-shooting-reported-downtown-orlando-20091106,0,7958763.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/os-shooting-reported-downtown-orlando-20091106,0,7958763.story)
QuoteTwo people are dead and at least 17 were shot in the incident, which took place about noon today.
Ekstremista je pogrešio. Čovek nije psiholog već psihijatar. Opasni su psihijatri kad se na nekog namerače. :?
garesu su verovatno bulju pomerali na poslu u vojsci,sto je musliman...
Sistemsko, eksponencijalno nasilje prevladava.
Tip koji je ukokao tuce žena i pustio ih da trule tako da je čitav komšiluk smrdeo - a niko ni pet para...
Major-psihijatar koji s dva pištolja ubije 13 ljudi i okrzne još tridesetak... a nije politički korektno nazvati ga teroristom, jer je musliman...
Meksikanac u plavoj košulji i farmerkama ukoka troje i rani još 7 i odveze se srebrnom hondom... (možda je bio ljubomoran?)
Samoubistva/ubistva čitavih porodica, zbog gubitka zaposlenja, stana, itd. niko i ne pominje (takođe sistemski). Opšte zataškavanje i zabašurivanje...
A glavni krivac je verovatno to što su počinioci prestali da uzimaju prepisanu medicinu (a možda će uskoro biti za sve obavezno da uzimaju antidepresive, pošto je to idealni disklejmer koji skida odgovornost sa sistema za ovakvee "randomizovane" i "atipične" ispade)...
Na www.nytimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com) je danas zanimljiva interaktivna struktura nezaposlenih u SAD. Pod donjim naslovom.
The Jobless Rate for People Like You
(Not all groups have felt the recession equally.)
U linijama su uvek uzroci. Ne zbog toga što su krive, već zato što su kategorije previše brojne.
Jedan od onih utešnih tekstova u glavnim medijima koji simuliraju objektivnost novinarstva.
Zvanično, nezaposlenost u SAD je dostigla 10,2 %, što se nekad, u vreme F D Ruzvelta, smatralo granicom (10%) od koje počinje depresija.
Međutim, "zvanično", prema displeju u Wall Street-u, oni polako ali sigurno "izlaze iz recesije". To što je cena zlata za godinu dana skočila oko 30%, a to je dobar indikator devalvacije dolara, jasno govori da su cifre s berze prosto naduvane bejlautskim, izmišljenim dolarima i ne mogu biti nikakvo merilo stanja američke ekonomije.
Mnogo me podseća na našu situaciju s početka osamdesetih i devedesetih.
Oni stariji će se setiti da se kod nas depresija zvala "stabilizacija"
xfrog
Samo još jedna "zanimljivost", kao dodatak: uskoro će sastanak G20 u Škotskoj, a mnogi očekuju da će na njemu biti doneta odluka o stvaranju svetske supervalute i odbacivanje dolara kao univerzalne rezervne valute (odustajanje od kupovine američkih obveznica, itd.).
Nisi pročitao članak i nisi pogledao krive. Tekst nije utešan, a 10,2% se odnosi samo na one koji traže posao. Oni koji su odustali i oni sa part time job uvećavaju ovaj procenat na 17%. Poenta je u strukturi krivih, jer ispod proseka su oni svetlije puti, školovaniji, mlađi, muškiji. Iznad su svi ostali.
Pa to i kažem, zvanično je 10,2%, a ovo je jedan od retkih članaka u glavnim medijima koji malo dublje analizira situaciju. To obično rade sporedni i alternativni mediji, naročito na internetu. Naravno, berza se uopšte više ne odnosi prema konkretnoj ekonomskoj situaciji, već njom manipulišu banke koje su dobile infuziju. Zato i skače gore-dole ko kengur, ko mrtva žaba kojoj su pustili struju.
Sada je mit o poslovima koje Amerikanac ne bi ni pipnuo, razbijen. Eno ih, guraju se u redovima s ilegalnim ejlijenima. Svega nešto više od 18 miliona zaposlenih u SAD radi u proizvodnji dobara, a preko 150 miliona u ostalim preduzećima. Glavna industrija, uključujući automobilsku, im je već preseljena u Kinu, Rusiju, Brazil...
Bojim se da će i tamo, kao što je bilo ovde na Balkanu, za njih praktično "in vitro", glavna industrija uskoro postati industrija zločina. Živi bili pa videli, ali ja ne vidim lepše dane...
:shock: HIGHLAND PARK, Mich. (AP) -- A 37-year-old father irate over hearing his 15-year-old son had sexual contact with a 3-year-old girl made the teen strip at gunpoint, marched him to a vacant lot and shot him to death despite pleas from the boy and his mother, a relative said.
Michigan authorities filed a first-degree murder charge Wednesday against Jamar Pinkney Sr. in the shooting death Monday of Jamar Pinkney Jr. in the Detroit enclave of Highland Park.
Defense attorney Corbett O'Meara said prosecutors should consider evidence of the father's state of mind over the sex abuse report.
"If something were to happen that would cause a reasonable person to lose control of himself, that is something the prosecution would have to take into account," O'Meara said outside Highland Park District Court.
Tensions were high in the courtroom Wednesday as the handcuffed suspect was led into the room for the arraignment, which lasted less than a minute.
"No, No, No," one female relative cried before a police officer escorted her out.
Judge Brigette Officer entered a not guilty plea for Pinkney, who's also charged with assault, and ordered him jailed without bond until a preliminary examination Dec. 1.
"This is something that's hard to deal with for all the parties concerned, including the police," police Chief Ted Caldwell said afterward. "Highland Park is a small city. These are people who have been members of the community for years."
Caldwell said the sexual misconduct allegation that led to the confrontation wasn't part of the police investigation.
The shooting happened Monday night in a vacant lot in the once-prosperous city of 16,000, where decay, abandonment, fires and demolition have eaten away at many of the sprawling homes. Highland Park recently exited years of state financial oversight.
Visitors built an impromptu memorial at the shooting site. Two votive candles sat amid 10 stuffed animals, including two white teddy bears with red hearts embroidered with, "I love you."
The boy's mother, Lazette Cherry, told the Detroit Free Press that her son told her he had improper sexual contact with the girl.
"I called and told his father. This isn't something you sweep under the rug," she said.
Cherry said the elder Pinkney arrived at the home with a gun, ordered his son to strip and marched him outside despite her protests.
"He got on his knees and begged, `No, Daddy, No,' and he pulled the trigger," Cherry said.
Cherry did not immediately respond to a message Wednesday from The Associated Press seeking comment.
xcheers Prostitution sting nabs 13-year-old Alabama boy
By JAY REEVES (AP) – 1 day ago
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. — An undercover officer posing as a prostitute in Alabama tried more than once to run off a 13-year-old boy who asked her for sex, but police say the teen insisted and had to be arrested.
Authorities in Mobile said Wednesday the teenager has been charged with a misdemeanor count of loitering while looking for a prostitute. The next-youngest suspect nabbed in the sting was 22.
Police set up the sting in a residential area last week because of complaints about prostitutes trolling for business. Officer Christopher Levy says it's not clear exactly what the teen said to the officer, or how she responded.
The boy's name was not released because of his age. He was taken to a juvenile detention center and released the same day.
Fifteen people were arrested during the sting.
Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
Dečku se baš nije dalo.
kom dečku?
onom crnji sa trogodišnjakinjom, il ovom što navro na kurave?
obrni-okreni, kurac je magnet za nevolju... naročito u tim ludim teen godinama... i to nema veze s amerikom per se.
A 37-year-old father irate over hearing his 15-year-old son had sexual contact with a 3-year-old girl made the teen strip at gunpoint, marched him to a vacant lot and shot him to death despite pleas from the boy and his mother, a relative said.
Mene podsetilo na: Prosper Merime "Mateo Falkone". (Ako je to bio Prosper Merime i ako se priča zvala "Mateo Falkone".)
Quote from: scallop on 20-11-2009, 09:10:04Mene podsetilo na: Prosper Merime "Mateo Falkone". (Ako je to bio Prosper Merime i ako se priča zvala "Mateo Falkone".)
sjajno!
ni boban se ne bi bolje setio!
:? Couple Busted for Refusing to Pay Tip If you're frustrated by poor service at a restaurant, think twice before you decide to not tip. You may be in for a bit more than just a dirty look from the waiter.
"Nobody, nobody wants to be forced to pay a tip or be arrested for terrible service," Leslie Pope said when her happy hour ended in handcuffs.
Pope and John Wagner were hauled away by police and charged with theft for not paying the mandatory 18 percent gratuity totaling $16 after eating at the Lehigh Pub in Bethlehem, Pa. with six friends.
Pope claimed that they had to wait nearly an hour for their order and that she had to get napkins and silverware for the table herself. "At this point I became very annoyed because I had already gone up to the bar myself to have my soda refilled because the waitress never came back," Pope said.
After the $73 bill came, the group paid for food, drinks, and tax but refused to pay the tip. After explaining the bad service to the bartender in charge, Pope claimed he took their money and called police. The couple was handcuffed and placed in the back of a police car.
"I understand that, you know, we didn't pay the gratuity, but it was a gratuity, it wasn't something that was required," said Wagner.
The owner admitted that the group waited unusually long for their food, but said the pub was extremely busy that night. He said managers offered to comp the food, a claim the couple denies ever happened.
"Obviously we would have liked for the patron and the establishment to have worked this out without getting the police involved," said Deputy Police Commissioner Stuart Bedics.
Police charged them with theft since the gratuity was part of the actual bill. However, it is doubtful that the charges will hold up in front of a judge. The couple is scheduled to appear in court next month. http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Time-In-Prison--70426052.html?yhp=1 (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Time-In-Prison--70426052.html?yhp=1)
Quote from: raindelay on 20-11-2009, 14:45:24
:? Couple Busted for Refusing to Pay Tip
ovo me podseća na priču 'NEĆU DA PLATIM' radmila anđelkovića – ako je to stvarno bio radmilo anđelković ako se priča stvarno zvala 'NEĆU DA PLATIM'!
Ovo saznanje Ghoulovo ne mora niko da proverava jer je standardna izmišljotina, a za Merimea biste mogli.
Was Aleister Crowley Barbara Bush's Father? (http://www.rense.com/general77/acrow.htm)
Quote from: raindelay on 20-11-2009, 14:45:24
Couple Busted for Refusing to Pay Tip If you're frustrated by poor service at a restaurant, think twice before you decide to not tip. You may be in for a bit more than just a dirty look from the waiter.
Za razliku od Evrope, u Americi, da bi klijentima sve izgledalo jeftinije, u cene prikazene u jelovniku, nije uracunat "porez na promet", niti "usluga". Medjutim, klijent je u obavezi da plati i jedno i drugo. Znaci, nije u pitanju "tip", odnosno baksis koji se ostavlja kada smo zadovoljni uslugom, nego deo cene koji je, iz komercijalnih razloga, pikazan na kraju racuna. Dok sam ziveo u Njujorku, uvek sam racunao na kafanjske cene jos 25 % odozgo (8,25 njujorski porez i 15 usluga).
Jedno od četvoro dece i jedno od osmoro odraslih u SAD su na bonovima za hranu. To je cca. 50 miliona ljudi. U poslednje dve se broj povećao za 10 miliona. To se finansira iz bakšiša?
Ako je sudeći po onoj raspravi iz Uličnih Pasa, klijent ipak nije u obavezi da ostavlja napojnicu. Ali ako konobarica "really put forth the effort" onda bismo joj svakako dali "somethin' extra".
Kod nas se plaća i porez na bakšiš. Moraš da potpišeš izjavu.
Quote from: Lord Kufer on 30-11-2009, 12:17:53
Kod nas se plaća i porez na bakšiš. Moraš da potpišeš izjavu.
Svaka država živi od poreza, što veća država, veći porez..... A kod nas je obrnuto, ni manje države, ni većeg poreza.....
Mada bi neke trebalo oporezovati i sa 1000% i dospećem za juče..... :idea: :twisted: :evil:
Kome ono reče Klintonka (Pakistancu) da se u Americi sve oporezuje...
4 Wash. State Police Officers Gunned Down xuzi http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/29/national/main5824423.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/29/national/main5824423.shtml)
Quote from: Lord Kufer on 30-11-2009, 12:17:53
Kod nas se plaća i porez na bakšiš. Moraš da potpišeš izjavu.
Jok, ugradiće ti fiskalnu kasu.
Ovako treba
cop gets busted by alien (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3bumCQF1Fo#normal)
Nobelovac salje jos 30 000 vojnika u Afganistan :).
to je RAT za MIR, kako ne shvataš?
A kad će da svrati da obiđe vosku u Aganistanu?
Quote from: slavko on 03-12-2009, 16:59:25
A kad će da svrati da obiđe vosku u Aganistanu?
Posle rata, kad bude mir.
U mir u Avganistanu ionako mogu da veruju samo oboleli od obamanije.
Sta je to "economic hitman", preko koga USA vlada (odnosno njihove korporacije) operise po "zemljama 3. svijeta" (narocito po L. Americi)??
Ispovijest jednog od njih, koji je "sluzenje USA" mijenjao za svoj miran san (2.-5. dio nacice te na Jutjub-listi hintova sa istim/slicnim nazivom, prva kolona sa strane):
How To Destabalize Countries Legally .Economic Hitman
How To Destabalize Countries Legally .Economic Hitman Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6WstddMJZQ&feature=PlayList&p=C1F45CF761F968F4&index=0#normal)
Abama je na prijemu Nobelove nagrade za mir održao govor u kojem je pravdao pravedni rat...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8405033.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8405033.stm)
QuotePresident Barack Obama has said the US must uphold moral standards when waging wars that are necessary and justified, as he accepted his Nobel Peace Prize.
In his speech in Oslo, he defended the US role in Afghanistan, arguing the use of force could bring lasting peace.
Long Live the Empire :evil:
AVE CAESAR OBAMA IMPERATOR ROMANORUM!!!!
Ma nije moguce.. covekoljubac kome se klanjao ceo svet, jedino mrski Srbi nisu iskazali odusevljenje na trgovima.. vec zaglavljen u Afganistanu, a sta ga jos ceka.
Pakistan, Iran, S.Koreja i druge sile zla i tmine..
Da li se "lasting peace" prevodi sa "konačno rešenje"? Tu bi onda i Hitler ,valjda, imao da kaže nešto.
To je ono što se nadovezuje na everlasting war.
Nek čuva on taj opijum, blago nama...
Starica ubila cimerku?
13. decembar 2009. | 13:27 | Izvor: Tanjug
Masačusets -- Lora Landkvist, 98-godišnja starica, optužena je za drugostepeno ubistvo 100 godina stare cimerke u staračkom domu u Dartmautu.
Njena cimerka, Elizabet Barou u septembru je pronađena mrtva s plastičnom kesom na glavi. Iako je policija najpre smatrala da je Barou izvršila samoubistvo, naknadna istraga pokazala je da je bila zadavljena, preneo je "Skaj njuz". Prema svedočenju sina ubijene starice, Landkvist se često žalila da njena cimerka ima mnogo posetilaca i da je to uznemirava.
"Moju majku su svi voleli. I ona je volela sve u staračkom domu. Kad je prolazila hodnicima imala je običaj da grli one koje je sretala", rekao je za lokalnu TV stanicu Barou.
Optužena Landkvist mogla bi da bude proglašena najstarijim ubicom u istoriji Masačusetsa.
Ona se, prema nalogu suda, nalazi u lokalnoj bolnici, gde će doktori oceniti da li joj mentalno stanje dozvoljava da prati suđenje.
A kad ubijaju petnestogodisnjaci, nista cudno da to rade i stogodisnjaci, odnosno stogodisnjakinje..
Moja baka ima 98, srecom nije nasilna :).
Мада, чувај леђа, никад се не зна....
Avganistanska novogodišnja čestitka za američke vojnike.
Talibanski hrabri krojač-7 jednim udarcem.
U napadu bombaša samoubice ubijeno sedam agenata CIA
Tanjug | 02. 01. 2010. - 19:23h | Foto: AFP, AP | Komentara: 0
Američka Centralna obaveštajna agencija potvrdila je danas da je sedam njenih pripadnika ubijeno a šest ranjeno u jučerašnjem napadu na jednu bazu u Avganistanu
CIA je u saopštenju dodala da neće objaviti imena žrtava, niti izneti detalje o poslu koji su obavljali za agenciju, navodeći kao razlog "osetljivost njihove misije i drugih operacija koje se sprovode", preneo je Rojters. Agenti CIA su poginuli u napadu bombaša samoubice na bazu stranih trupa juče u Avganistanu. Pobunjenički talibani tvrde da je napadač njihov simpatizer iz avganistanske armije, koji je aktivirao eksploziv na jednom sastanku sa pripadnicima CIA. Portparol talibana je u izjavi za Bi-Bi-Si precizirao da je napadač bio infiltriran u redove avganistanske vojske u kojoj je imao oficirski čin i naveo da je bombaš samoubica ušao u teretanu u bazi i digao se u vazduh. Portparol međunarodnih snaga pod vođstvom NATO u Avganistanu potvrdio je da su snage bezbednosti te zemlje radile u bazi. Vlasti su precizirale da je ubijeno sedam, a ne osam ljudi iz CIA, kako je ranije bilo javljeno.
Direktor CIA Leon Paneta izjavio je da je sedam agenata koji su u sredu 30. decembra ubijeni u bombaškom napadu na bazu CIA u Avganistanu "poginulo braneći SAD od terorizma," a agencije prenose da je napad najverovatnije izvršio čovek koji je vrbovan za doušnika.
Pozivajući se na neimenovane američke izvore, BBC javlja da je među ubijenim agentima i žena koja je bila šef stanice CIA, majka troje dece.
Prema tvrdnjama američkih izvora, agente CIA ubila je osoba koju su vrbovali kao mogućeg doušnika. Napadač je pozvan da dođe u bazu u koju je ušao bez odgovarajućeg pretresa, naveo je BBC.
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blic.rs%2Fdata%2Fimages%2F2010-01-02%2F1490_cia-zgrada-afp_f.jpg%3Fver%3D1262453639&hash=cc849f89c787e50902525d7d49ef019c05cc98d0)
Avganistanske snage tesno sarađuju sa stranim vojnicima, i pod velikim su pritiskom da povećaju broj pripadnika avganistanske vojske kako bi ona bila u stanju da preuzme kontrolu nad zemljom i omogući stranim trupama da se povuku. Međutim, taj pritisak istovremeno znači da je selekcija i provera onih koji se prijavljuju da služe u avganistanskoj vojsci manje pažljiva.
Baza Cepmen je opisivana kao "neregularni objekat", što je fraza koja ukazuje da je u stvari reč o centru operacija CIA u pokrajni Host.
Za tu agenciju ovo je najveći gubitak u ljudstvu koji je pretrpela od početka rata u Avganistanu, pre osam godina.
Koliko li ih je tamo kad ih nađe ovoliko na gomili?A koliko ih je ovde?
To je obična nameštaljka, likvidirali su svoje nepoželjne. Baš da im tako prođe bez provere, nije nego.
Ko je i nameštaljka smo neka nastave tim putem.
Sve vise osipaju paljbu po Jemenu.
Je li Jemen sledeci na listi za bombardovanje ?
MI SRBI cemo rado primiti narod Jemena na nasu listu prijateljskih naroda. Mada moj favorit je Severna Koreja od sviju prijateljskih naroda, jer evo vidite sta se desava u Iranu, scenario poznat, slab mi je taj Ahmadinedzad ako je to dopustio, znas kad bi tako mogli da talasaju u Severnoj Koreji, malo morgen...
Foiled Terrorist Bombing in Detroit: An Excuse to Expand the Bogus War On Terror
By Kurt Nimmo
The explosion of what witnesses describe as a firecracker on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas arrives at an opportune time for the Obama administration. The alleged perpetrator, Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab, like shoe bomber Richard Reid before him, appears to be an incompetent patsy. Mutallab told investigators he was on a mission from al-Qaeda and he got the explosive materials for the botched attack in Yemen.
Yemen is a new front in the war against the manufactured enemy al-Qaeda. Not only is the United States providing assisstance to the Yemeni government to bomb supposed al-Qaeda bases in the southern part of the country, but Saudi Arabia conducted airstrikes against targets in the north. Mohamed al-Anisi, the Yemeni national security chief, told told the Saudi Arabian newspaper Okaz that his forces were cooperating with Washington on attacks and accused Iran of aiding Houthi Shiite rebels. Earlier this week, a Saudi Ministry of Defense official said 73 Saudis were killed fighting the Houthi rebels, according to Deutsche Presse-Agentur.
Earlier this week al-Qaeda exploited an anti-government rally in Sanna. "Al Qaeda militants made a rare public appearance in restive south Yemen on Monday, telling an anti-government rally that the group's war was with the United States and not the Yemeni army, residents said," Reuters reported on December 23. "The West and Saudi Arabia fear al Qaeda will take advantage of the Yemeni government's focus on a Shi'ite rebellion in the north and rising secessionist sentiment in the south to spread its operations to the kingdom, the world's top oil exporter." An explosion during the demonstration killed three people.
The Yemeni government raids killed 23 children and 17 women, not al-Qaeda, according to a report filed by AlJazeera.
The failed bombing of Flight 253 provides an excuse to expand the GWOT into Africa. "The alleged bomber's nationality and his apparent origination in Nigeria raised immediate questions about airport security in Africa's most populous country, where corruption, organized crime and crumbling infrastructure have long hobbled an otherwise oil-rich government," reports The Wall Street Journal. "The alleged attempted bombing of a Detroit-bound jet by a Nigerian national Friday raises new concern over possible extremist Islamic activity in Nigeria and West Africa, a corner of Africa where al Qaeda so far hasn't put down significant roots."
Ethiopian and U.S. intervention in Somalia was justified to the international public under the pretext of fighting terrorism and al-Qaeda. "Ethiopia has become a regional surrogate or proxy for the United States and Britain. This is evident from the coordination of the U.S. military and Ethiopian troops in Somalia," Global Research noted in January, 2007.
"America's renewed interest in the Horn of Africa dates to November 2002 when the US military established its joint taskforce in Djibouti, now the base for 1,800 troops, including special operations forces," The Guardian reported on January 13, 2007. "By then, the west had good reason to fear that Africa had become an arena for al-Qaida, and that the failed state of Somalia could become a haven for the organization's operatives."
Ethiopia invaded Somalia with US encouragement and military assistance after the Islamic Courts Union (ICU), an Islamist militant group that ruled much of the country, made military advances. On January 5, 2007, al-Qaeda second-in-command Ayman al-Zawahiri — the notorious CIA operative in Afghanistan who was shepherded by the western intelligence asset the Muslim Brotherhood — issued a message urging Somalis to fight against the Ethiopian invaders.
The ICU is a classic intelligence fabrication. It was armed by none other than Victor Bout, described as the world's biggest illegal arms dealer. Bout worked with CIA front companies in Afghanistan. He also worked with the United Nations and African warlords, according to investigative journalist Wayne Madsen.
"Unified Quest 2008″ underscores the importance of Africa in the bogus (and highly profitable) GWOT. The May 2008 United States Army War College war game included representatives from several NATO countries, Australia, and Israel, along with the private military contractors the Rand Corporation and Booz-Allen. Among scenarios examined during the game were the possibility of direct American military intervention involving some 20,000 U.S. troops in order to "secure the oil," and the question of how to handle possible splits between factions within the Nigerian government. The game ended without military intervention because one of the rival factions executed a successful coup and formed a new government that sought stability, reported the Stop NATO newsgroup.
Obama has defined the Africom mission to be within in the parameters of U.S. national security and the larger globalist agenda. "America has a responsibility to advance this vision, not just with words, but with support that strengthens African capacity. When there is genocide in Darfur or terrorists in Somalia, these are not simply African problems — they are global security challenges, and they demand a global response," he said during a speech delivered on July 11, 2009. "Our Africa Command is focused not on establishing a foothold in the continent, but on confronting these common challenges to advance the security of America, Africa and the world."
Africa Command was established October 1, 2007 as a temporary sub-unified command under U.S. European Command, which for more than two decades was responsible for U.S. military relations with more than 40 African nations. Africa Command was formally activated October 1, 2008, during a public ceremony at the Pentagon attended by representatives of African nations posted in Washington, D.C.
In addition to paving the way for expanded incursion in Africa, the failed bombing provides an excuse to further harass an impose police state measures on airline passengers. "President Barack Obama, vacationing in Hawaii, ordered heightened security, calling for 'all appropriate measures to be taken' after receiving a briefing from national security officials, a White House statement said," reports Bloomberg. Obama considers yesterday's incident as an attempted terrorist attack.
Airport security was increased around the world today. "The Department of Homeland Security said passengers may notice additional screening. Security at airports in the U.K., continental Europe, Canada, parts of Asia and Australia was increased today, and a European Commission statement said the authorities are in contact with Dutch and U.S. officials," BusinessWeek reports this morning.
http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-6809-0-5-5--.html (http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-6809-0-5-5--.html)
Quote from: Eriops on 05-01-2010, 12:04:46
Sve vise osipaju paljbu po Jemenu.
Je li Jemen sledeci na listi za bombardovanje ?
Ma ovaj Nigerijac je boravio četiri meseca u Jemenu pre nego što je pokušao da digne avion u vazduh (zapravo da ga u parčićima spusti na zemlju). Ako Jemenci budu sarađivali neće Amerikanci bacati pare na invaziju Jemena. Čak i ako ne budu sarađivali, ne verujem da će se Amerikanci nešto pretrzati oko Jemena, nije im usput, a i tamo nema nafte.
Potrebna im je neka brza i efektna pobeda, pali su u letargiju :). U Afganistanu i Pakistanu ne ide kako su zamislili, problemi se gomilaju. Irak nisu rešili, a i u susedstvu se Ahmadineđo još drži. Sakašvili im je dobio po ušima, a ove Korejce sumnjam da smeju olako čačkati. Treba im neka, mala slabašna zemlja koju će brzo satrti. Jemen je idealan. Mozda i Sirija.
Koji ste vi zlobnici. Neće predsednik Obama dozvoliti dalje ratove. Ne zaboravite, on je dobitnik Novelove nagrade za mir i uvešće SAD u jedno novo vreme napretka, blagostanja, mira i blagotvornog uticaja na ceo svet. Amerika, taj svetac nečasne prošlosti, pod Obaminim će mudrim vođstvom ponovo postati ponosni vođa slobodnog sveta, država za ugled i primer. Srbadijo nijedna, sad vam ni Obama ne valja. Niste vi ni za šta.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-acceptance-nobel-peace-prize (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-acceptance-nobel-peace-prize)
Sakašvili (koji nije Šaka-švili) očigledno radi za Putina.
A u Jemenu bazu imaju oslobocioci Istočne Arabije (samo novine ne pišu o tome).
Amerikanci očigledno hoće da se utabore i na toj teritoriji i tako potpuno okruže Iran i zatvore pristup Kinezima i Indijcima u ovaj deo Indijskog okeana (koji je, kao što mu ime kaže - Indijski).
Ormuski tesnac - iranska Sutjeska xuss
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8440591.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8440591.stm)
EVo kako se razbija paranoja, baš kao u onom filmu In the Loop. Totalni fijasko američke politike. A posledica toga, još veća opresija nad putnicima i praktično preuzimanje posla od avio kompanija.
QuoteOn Monday, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stressed the international nature of threats resulting from instability there.
"We see global implications from the war in Yemen and the ongoing efforts by al-Qaeda in Yemen to use it as a base for terrorist attacks far beyond the region," she said.
Kako se zove ova vrsta logike? Deluzivna indukcija...
ALABAMA - HELL, YE-AH! WE HAVE ELECTRICITY.
ALASKA - 11,623 ESKIMOS CAN'T BE WRONG.
ARIZONA - BUT IT'S A DRY HEAT.
ARKANSAS - LITERACY AIN'T EVERYTHING.
CALIFORNIA - BY AGE 30 OUR WOMEN HAVE MORE PLASTIC THAN YOUR HONDA ~ AND THAT'S THE TRUTH!
COLORADO - IF YOU DON'T SKI, DON'T BOTHER.
CONNECTICUT - LIKE MASSACHUSETTS, ONLY THE KENNEDY'S DON'T OWN IT YET.
DELAWARE - WE REALLY DO LIKE THE CHEMICALS IN OUR WATER.
FLORIDA - HOME OF THE HEADLESS DRIVERS.
GEORGIA - WE PUT THE "FUN" IN FUNDAMENTALIST EXTREMISM.
HAWAII - HAKA TIKI MOU SHA'AMI LEEKI TORU (DEATH TO MAINLAND SCUM, LEAVE YOUR MONEY).
IDAHO - MORE THAN JUST POTATOES....WELL OKAY, WE'RE NOT, BUT THE POTATOES SURE ARE REAL GOOD.
ILLINOIS - PLEASE DON'T PRONOUNCE THE "S".
INDIANA - 2 BILLION YEARS TIDAL WAVE FREE.
IOWA - WE DO AMAZING THINGS WITH CORN.
KANSAS - FIRST OF THE RECTANGLE STATES.
KENTUCKY - FIVE MILLION PEOPLE; FIFTEEN LAST NAMES.
LOUISIANA - WE'RE NOT ALL DRUNK CAJUN WACKOS, BUT THAT'S OUR TOURISM CAMPAIGN.
MAINE - WE'RE REALLY COLD, BUT WE HAVE CHEAP LOBSTER.
MARYLAND - IF YOU CAN DREAM IT, WE CAN TAX IT.
MASSACHUSETTS - OUR TAXES ARE LOWER THAN SWEDEN'S (FOR MOST TAX BRACKETS).
MICHIGAN - FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE FROM THE CANADIANS.
MINNESOTA - 10,000 LAKES.... AND 10,000,000,000,000 MOSQUITOES.
MISSISSIPPI - COME AND FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOUR OWN STATE.
MISSOURI - YOUR FEDERAL FLOOD RELIEF TAX DOLLARS HARD AT WORK.
MONTANA - LAND OF THE BIG SKY, THE UNABOMBER, RIGHT-WING CRAZIES, AND VERY LITTLE ELSE.
NEBRASKA - ASK ABOUT OUR STATE MOTTO CONTEST.
NEVADA - HOOKERS AND POKER.
NEW HAMPSHIRE - GO AWAY AND LEAVE US ALONE.
NEW JERSEY - YOU WANT A @%&#%&$ MOTTO? I GOT YER %$&##@& MOTTO RIGHT HERE.
NEW MEXICO - LIZARDS and TARANTULAS MAKE EXCELLENT PETS.
NEW YORK - YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO AN ATTORNEY.
NORTH CAROLINA - TOBACCO IS A VEGETABLE.
NORTH DAKOTA - WE REALLY ARE ONE OF THE 50 STATES.
OHIO - HOME OF LAKE ERIE AND THE MISTAKE BY THE LAKE (CLEVELAND).
OKLAHOMA - LIKE THE PLAY, ONLY NO SINGING.
OREGON - SPOTTED OWL...IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER.
PENNSYLVANNIA - COOK WITH COAL.
RHODE ISLAND - WE'RE NOT REALLY AN ISLAND.
SOUTH CAROLINA - REMEMBER THE CIVIL WAR? WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY SURRENDER.
SOUTH DAKOTA - CLOSER THAN NORTH DAKOTA.
TENNESSEE - THE EDJUCASHUN STATE.
TEXAS - SI' HABLO INGLES.
UTAH - OUR JESUS IS BETTER THAN YOUR JESUS.
VERMONT - YEP.
VIRGINIA - WHO SAYS GOVERNMENT STIFFS AND SLACKJAW YOKELS DON'T MIX?
WASHINGTON - HELP! WE'RE OVERRUN BY NERDS AND SLACKERS.
WEST VIRGINIA - ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY.....REALLY!
WISCONSIN - COME CUT THE CHEESE.
WYOMING - WHERE MEN ARE MEN.....AND THE SHEEP ARE SCARED!
xrofl
Ron Paul Powerful Speech - A Call for Revolution? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vLV4jn8BMU#normal)
@raindelay - kolko ja znam WINSCONSIN, ILLINOIS i INDIANU su okupirali Srbi i ostali ex-YU nesrecnici...
A inace opaka je fora :lol:
I na kanadskim aerodromima su uveli skenere. :(
Inače, ti letovi avionima postaju prava paranoja. Došlo vreme da se putnici sami brane, i paze hoće li kakav sveti ratnik probati aktivirati eksploziv.
xuzi turistas For $65, tourists get peek at Los Angeles gangland LOS ANGELES – Only miles from the scenic vistas and celebrity mansions that draw sightseers from around the globe — but a world away from the glitz and glamour — a bus tour is rolling through the dark side of the city's gang turf.
Passengers paying $65 a head Saturday signed waivers acknowledging they could be crime victims and put their fate in the hands of tattooed ex-gang members who say they have negotiated a cease-fire among rivals in the most violent gangland in America.
If that sounds daunting, consider the challenge facing organizers of LA Gang Tours: trying to build a thriving venture that provides a glimpse into gang life while also trying to convince people that gang-plagued communities are not as hopeless as movies depict.
"There's a fascination with gangs," said founder Alfred Lomas, a former member of the Florencia 13 gang. "We can either address the issue head-on, create awareness and discuss the positive things that go on in these communities, or we can try to sweep it under the carpet." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20100119/ap_tr_ge/us_travel_brief_gang_tours (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20100119/ap_tr_ge/us_travel_brief_gang_tours)
http://www.peta.org/feat/stateoftheunion10/video-uncensored.asp?ap=1 (http://www.peta.org/feat/stateoftheunion10/video-uncensored.asp?ap=1)
Quote from: EKSTREMISTA on 31-01-2010, 06:29:34
http://www.peta.org/feat/stateoftheunion10/video-uncensored.asp?ap=1 (http://www.peta.org/feat/stateoftheunion10/video-uncensored.asp?ap=1)
Hm... Nešto je čudno sa ovim snimkom. U momentu ogoljavanja grudi kamera sklizne prema dole i vidimo da je naša cura u suknji (a tu suknju je već bila skinula prije); u sljedećem kadru, kad vidimo cijelu curu, ona ima na sebi samo gaćice (suknja je ponovo nestala).
Tačno. Postoji još jedna greška, ako se ne varam. Kad krene da skida prvu čarapu, postoji jedan krupniji plan gde se vidi da je i druga noga gola, ali ništa zato - posle skine drugu čarapu. Režiser nema pojma.
Texas Schools Ban Author for Book He Didn't Even Write
Posted by jeannesager on January 27th, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Most parents love Bill Martin Jr. for the work he did with beloved children's illustrator and author Eric Carle. But schools in Texas have decided Martin's beloved tomes have to go.
Not because they're naughty, but because Martin shares his name with another Bill Martin. The other guy just so happened to write a book (for adults) about Marxism.
And you all know what happens when you expose kids to a little socialism.
That's right, they learn about another form of government! Of course, Bill Martin Jr. isn't really trying to educate kids about much more than what brown bears see and the parts of the body. He even wrote an uber-American book if there ever is one: I Pledge Allegiance.
So what's the problem? According to the Dallas Morning News, the Texas State Board of Education has stricken Martin's books from the curriculum based on an assertion that he'd written books with "very strong critiques of capitalism and the American system."
It was based on one member of the board's cursory review of Martin's name on Borders.com - which came up with the book by another Bill Martin, a professor at DePaul University, who penned Ethical Marxism: The Categorical Imperative of Liberation (Creative Marxism).
Neither the board member who found that notation, nor the one who made the motion to strike Martin from the books to be studied in schools, actually read the Marxism book. Nor, apparently, did they bother to check whether they were written by the same man.
ovo je pre za topic THE BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU - ali u svakom slučaju, scary.
oldskul, killem all pristup:)
NATO rockets miss target, kill 12 Afghan civilians
MARJAH, Afghanistan – Twelve Afghans died Sunday when two rockets fired at insurgents missed their target and struck a house during the second day of NATO's most ambitious effort yet to break the militants' grip on the country's dangerous south.
Thousands of U.S. and Afghan forces encountered pockets of resistance, fighting off sniper attacks, as they moved deeper into Marjah, a town of 80,000 people that is the linchpin of the militants' logistical and opium-smuggling network in Helmand province.
Marines and Afghan troops used metal detectors and sniffer dogs, searching compound to compound for explosives rigged to explode. Blasts from controlled detonations could be heard about every 10 minutes north of Marjah.
Afghan and international troops want to secure the area, set up a local government and rush in development aid in what is seen as the first test of the new NATO strategy for turning the tide of the 8-year-old war. The civilian deaths were a blow to NATO and the Afghan government's attempts to win the allegiance of Afghans and get them to turn away from the insurgents.
NATO said two rockets from a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System were aimed at insurgents firing on Afghan and NATO forces, but struck 1,000 feet (300 meters) off their intended target.
"We deeply regret this tragic loss of life," said Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the top commander in Afghanistan. "The current operation in central Helmand is aimed at restoring security and stability to this vital area of Afghanistan. It's regrettable that in the course of our joint efforts, innocent lives were lost."
McChrystal said he had apologized to Afghan President Hamid Karzai for the accident and had suspended use of the rocket system until the incident can be reviewed.
Karzai issued a statement minutes earlier saying 10 members of the same family died when a rocket hit a house in Marjah. He ordered an investigation into who fired the rocket. Before the offensive began on Saturday, Karzai pleaded with Afghan and foreign military leaders to be "seriously careful for the safety of civilians."
Upravo sam skonto odakle takav zemljotres na Haitiju. :shock:
Haiti je stradao iz potpuno istog razloga kao i New Orleans, zbog vudua. Ko ne veruje nek pogeda dok. White Darkness Richarda Stenlija. Rejnoldse reci im.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/84368492.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/84368492.html)
Quote from: BoingBoingPhiladelphia TSA screeners forced the developmentally delayed, four-year-old son of a Camden, PA police officer to remove his leg-braces and wobble through a checkpoint, despite the fact that their procedure calls for such a case to be handled through a swabbing in a private room. When the police officer complained, the supervising TSA screener turned around and walked away. Then a Philadelphia police officer asked what was wrong and "suggested he calm down and enjoy his vacation."
Ryan was taking his first flight, to Walt Disney World, for his fourth birthday.
The boy is developmentally delayed, one of the effects of being born 16 weeks prematurely. His ankles are malformed and his legs have low muscle tone. In March he was just starting to walk...
The screener told them to take off the boy's braces.
The Thomases were dumbfounded. "I told them he can't walk without them on his own," Bob Thomas said.
"He said, 'He'll need to take them off.' "
Ryan's mother offered to walk him through the detector after they removed the braces, which are custom-made of metal and hardened plastic.
No, the screener replied. The boy had to walk on his own.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0218102stack1.html (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0218102stack1.html)
I sličice...
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http://abcnews.go.com/WN/slideshow?id=9876509 (http://abcnews.go.com/WN/slideshow?id=9876509)
QuotePlane Crash Suspect's Online Diatribe
Posting rages at IRS, claims, "I have had all I can stand"
FEBRUARY 18--The man suspected of intentionally crashing an airplane into a Texas office building today appears to have posted a lengthy online diatribe attacking the Internal Revenue Service and declaring that, "I know I'm hardly the first one to decide I have had all I can stand." The six-page manifesto, which you'll find below, is dated "2/18/10" and is signed "Joe Stack (1956-2010)." Andrew Joseph Stack, 53, has been identified as the man who flew a small plane into an Austin building housing IRS offices. The statement was uploaded to the front page of a web site that was registered in 2003 by a Joe Stack, who listed an address in San Marcos, Texas, which is about 35 miles south of Austin. The online posting is titled "Well Mr. Big Brother IRS man... take my pound of flesh and sleep well." Cached versions of Stack's web site, which described his software development consulting business, noted that he founded the firm in southern California in 1983, and eventually relocated to the Austin area to "lend a hand to the growing high technology industry in South-Central Texas." Alex Melen, whose firm hosts Stack's site, told TSG that Stack last changed his web site this morning at 10:12 AM (Eastern). His Piper Cherokee crashed into the Austin building at around 11:30 AM (Eastern). Until Stack uploaded his suicide note, his site consisted of a handful of pages describing his business, Embedded Art, and its history. A screen grab of the previous front page of Stack's site, which he backed up Tuesday afternoon, can be seen here. Melen said that Stack paid his annual hosting fee with a credit card, and last year changed his billing address from San Marcos to an address on North Mopack Expressway in Austin. Prior to speaking with TSG, Melen said he had been contacted by FBI agents in Austin and New Jersey, where his hosting business is located. At 2:40 PM today, Melen deleted Stack's web site at embeddedart.com. He replaced it with a statement noting that, "This web site has been taken offline due to the sensitive nature of the events that transpired in Texas this morning and in compliance with a request from the FBI." (7 pages)
Alabama professor's lawyer regrets calling her 'wacko'
February 19, 2010 6:17 p.m. EST
(CNN) -- The defense attorney appointed to represent an Alabama professor accused of shooting her colleagues said Friday he regrets describing her as "wacko."
But at a news conference, Roy Miller said "something's wrong with this lady."
He also said his client, Amy Bishop, is "aware of what she's done and she's very sorry for it."
Bishop is under suicide watch in jail, Miller said.
In an interview Thursday with CNN affiliate WHNT after visiting Bishop, Miller said, "I just think the case speaks for itself." He added, "I think she's wacko."
"Good lord, y'all," Miller said. "Listen, I went overboard with that. When I talk to y'all I make statements ... I wish I hadn't have made. And probably that's one of them."
He added that he was trying to imply that the facts of the case "speak for themselves."
Bishop told him she does not remember the incident, Miller said.
But now, "she knows she's killed some folks, I'm sure."
The biology professor is charged with capital murder and three counts of attempted murder in the shootings at the University of Alabama in Huntsville last week.
At the end of a biology department faculty meeting at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, Bishop suddenly "just stood up and shot," a professor who survived the incident told CNN affiliate WAAY.
Three of Bishop's colleagues were killed; three others were wounded.
Bishop, a Harvard-trained geneticist, had recently been denied tenure.
Bishop, a professor and researcher at the university, was arrested as she was leaving the building. A 9 mm handgun was found inside, on the second floor.
A university spokesman, Ray Garner, identified the dead as Gopi Podila, chairman of the biological sciences department; Maria Davis, associate professor of biology; and Adriel Johnson, associate professor of biology.
Miller said his client is "trying to keep from cracking up down there emotionally," and is worried that if she breaks down, officials in the jail might think she's going to commit suicide.
Discussing his client's mind, he said that doctors of biology "have got, in my estimation, high IQs -- and the high IQ in my opinion is sometimes not good for people." He said Bishop sometimes is "so focused on the mental basis" that she "does not know what's going on around her."
He said he believes the case will boil down to Bishop's mental state at the time of the killings.
In the wake of the shootings, information came to light about previous run-ins with the law Bishop had. She faced criminal charges after an altercation at a Massachusetts restaurant nearly eight years ago, police said. The police report says Bishop became furious that there was no booster seat available for her child, began screaming at the woman who had taken the last one and struck her in the head.
Authorities previously have said Bishop, who is also known as Amy Bishop Anderson, fatally shot her brother in the family's Braintree, Massachusetts, home in 1986.
The shooting was ruled accidental, but after a review of the incident after the Alabama shootings, Norfolk County District Attorney William Keating issued a statement saying that probable cause had existed in 1986 to charge Bishop with assault with a dangerous weapon, carrying a dangerous weapon and unlawful possession of ammunition.
However, the statute of limitations on those charges has expired, as well as on a potential charge of "wanton and reckless conduct" -- the lowest standard for manslaughter in Massachusetts, Keating said.
In addition, the Boston Globe reported Monday that Bishop and her husband, Jim Anderson, were questioned in the 1993 attempted mail bombing of a Harvard Medical School professor.
Jim Anderson said on Monday that federal investigators had gathered "a dozen subjects" in the attempted bombing, but "there were never any suspects. Never anyone charged, never anyone arrested. Then five years later, we got a letter from the ATF saying, 'You are in the clear.' "
Američki pedijatar iz Delavera, sumnjiči se da je učestvovao u silovanju i seksualnom zlostavljanju više od 100 dece! Na pomolu je jedan od najvećih i najtežih slučajeva seksualnog zlostavljanja dece u SAD.
Evo novih dokumentaraca i filmova, dok neko ne najebe al pravo, nema dobrih radova...
Quote from: Eriops on 23-02-2010, 19:15:31Američki pedijatar ...
sta je napravio? "a sad reci milo aaaaa..."
Verovatno će u neku ustanovu zatvorenog tipa, gde je i tebi mesto :idea:.
bitno je samo da ti i ja nismo sa iste strane vrata. nebitno s koje. :idea:
Quote from: Eriops on 23-02-2010, 21:48:01
Verovatno će u neku ustanovu zatvorenog tipa,
Samo se ti nadaj.
Takvi skotovi se uglavnom izvuku... :(
Nadam se, i mislim da neće, jer je optužba jako obimna, a izgleda da je monstrum i snimao ono što je radio, tako da postoje snimljeni materijali koji ga jasno optužuju.
Neverovatno je da je to uspeo raditi punih deset godina ...
proklet bio!
Ma, nenadjebivi su!
Ex-Mayor Gets 15 Years; City Pays Price
After former Mayor Larry Langford of Birmingham, Ala., was convicted on bribery charges, it was revealed he had won hundreds of jackpots at a bingo casino. The stories generated ridicule, disbelief and disgust in the city
vest stara samo 10 godina:
Serbia Deploys Peacekeeping Forces To U.S.
November 15, 2000
BELGRADE–Serbian president Vojislav Kostunica deployed more than 30,000 peacekeeping troops to the U.S. Monday, pledging full support to the troubled North American nation as it struggles to establish democracy.
Enlarge Image Serbia Deploys Peacekeeping Forces
Serbian peacekeeping troops patrol Washington, D.C.
"We must do all we can to support free elections in America and allow democracy to gain a foothold there," Kostunica said. "The U.S. is a major player in the Western Hemisphere and its continued stability is vital to Serbian interests in that region."
Kostunica urged Al Gore, the U.S. opposition-party leader who is refusing to recognize the nation's Nov. 7 election results, to "let the democratic process take its course."
"Mr. Gore needs to acknowledge the will of the people and concede that he has lost this election," Kostunica said. "Until America's political figures learn to respect the institutions that have been put in place, the nation will never be a true democracy."
Serbian forces have been stationed throughout the U.S., with an emphasis on certain trouble zones. Among them are Oregon, Florida, and eastern Tennessee, where Gore set up headquarters in Bush territory. An additional 10,000 troops are expected to arrive in the capital city of Washington, D.C. by Friday.
Though Kostunica has pledged to work with U.S. leaders, he did not rule out the possibility of economic sanctions if the crisis is not resolved soon.
"For democracy to take root and flourish, it must be planted in the rich soil of liberty. And the cornerstone of liberty is elections free of tampering or corruption," Kostunica said. "Should America prove itself incapable of learning this lesson on its own, the international community may be forced to take stronger measures."
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Don't buy Expedia online tickets! Don't travel with United Airlines! They robbed me with 100$ extra baggage fees in travel back from USA in spite we came there without extras. They are serving worst meals in intercontinental trafic! They are extra charging alcoholic beverage!
Ovo je da Google pročita. Namerno nije na onom topiku u Deponiji. Da bih doneo knjige kupio sam jednu torbu i napunio je, a sad me košta ko svetog Petra kajgana. I posle mi neko priča da u Hurt Lockeru nema podvale.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html)
Texas Approves Curriculum Revised by Conservatives
AUSTIN, Tex. — After three days of turbulent meetings, the Texas Board of Education on Friday voted to approve a social studies curriculum that will put a conservative stamp on history and economics textbooks, stressing the superiority of American capitalism, questioning the Founding Father's commitment to a purely secular government and presenting Republican political philosophies in a more positive light.
The vote was 11 to 4, with 10 Republicans and one Democrat voting for the curriculum, and four Democrats voting against.
The board, whose members are elected, has influence beyond Texas because the state is one of the largest purchasers of textbooks. In the digital age, however, that influence has been diminished as technological advances have made it possible for publishers to tailor books to individual states.
In recent years, board members have been locked in an ideological battle between a bloc of conservatives who question Darwin's theory of evolution and believe the Founding Fathers were guided by Christian principles and a handful of Democrats and moderate Republicans who have fought to preserve the teaching of Darwinism and the separation of church and state.
Since January, Republicans on the board have passed more than 160 amendments to the 120-page curriculum standards affecting history, sociology and economics courses from elementary to high school. The standards were proposed by a board of teachers.
Efforts by Hispanic board members to include more Latino figures as role models for the state's large Hispanic population were consistently defeated, prompting one member, Mary Helen Berlanga, to storm out of a meeting late Thursday night, saying, "They can just pretend this is a white America and Hispanics don't exist."
"They are going overboard, they are not experts, they are not historians," she said. "They are rewriting history, not only of Texas but of the United States and the world."
The curriculum standards will now be published in a state register, opening them up for 30 days of public comment. A final vote will be taken in May, but given the Republican dominance of the board, it is unlikely many changes will be made.
The standards, reviewed every decade, serve as a template for publishers of textbooks, who must come before the board next year with drafts of their books. The board's makeup will have changed by then because the leader of the conservative faction, Dr. Don McLeroy, lost in a primary to a more moderate Republican, and two others — one Democrat and one conservative Republican — have announced they are not seeking re-election.
There are seven members of the conservative bloc on the board, but they are often joined by one of the other three Republicans on crucial votes. There were no historians, sociologists or economists consulted at the meetings, though some members of the conservative bloc held themselves out as experts on certain topics.
The conservative members maintain that they are trying to correct what they see as a liberal bias among the teachers who proposed the curriculum. To that end, they made dozens of minor changes aimed at calling into question, among other things, concepts like the separation of church and state and the secular nature of the American Revolution.
"I reject the notion by the left of a constitutional separation of church and state," said David Bradley, a conservative from Beaumont who works in real estate. "I have $1,000 for the charity of your choice if you can find it in the Constitution."
They also included a plank to ensure that students learn about "the conservative resurgence of the 1980s and 1990s, including Phyllis Schalfly, the Contract With America, the Heritage Foundation, the Moral Majority and the National Rifle Association."
Dr. McLeroy pushed through a change to the teaching of the civil rights movement to ensure that students study the violent philosophy of the Black Panthers in addition to the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s nonviolent approach. He also made sure that textbooks would mention the votes in Congress on civil rights legislation, which Republicans supported.
"Republicans need a little credit for that," he said. "I think it's going to surprise some students."
Mr. Bradley won approval for an amendment saying students should study "the unintended consequences" of the Great Society legislation, affirmative action and Title IX legislation. He also won approval for an amendment stressing that Germans and Italians were interned in the United States as well as the Japanese during World War II, to counter the idea that the internment of Japanese was motivated by racism.
Other changes seem aimed at tamping down criticism of the right. Conservatives passed one amendment, for instance, requiring that the history of McCarthyism include "how the later release of the Venona papers confirmed suspicions of communist infiltration in U.S. government." The Venona papers were transcripts of some 3,000 communications between the Soviet Union and its agents in the United States.
In economics, the revisions add Milton Friedman and Friedrich von Hayek, two champions of free-market economic theory, among the usual list of economists to be studied, like Adam Smith, Karl Marx and John Maynard Keynes. They also replaced the word "capitalism" throughout their texts with the "free-enterprise system."
"Let's face it, capitalism does have a negative connotation," said one conservative member, Terri Leo. "You know, 'capitalist pig!' "
In the field of sociology, another conservative member, Barbara Cargill, won passage of an amendment requiring the teaching of "the importance of personal responsibility for life choices" in a section on teen suicide, dating violence, sexuality, drug use and eating disorders.
"The topic of sociology tends to blame society for everything," Ms. Cargill said.
Even the course on World History did not escape the board's scalpel.
Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict constitutionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs, managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century, replacing him with St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. (Jefferson is not well liked among the conservatives on the board because he coined the term "separation between church and state.")
"The Enlightenment was not the only philosophy on which these revolutions were based," Ms. Dunbar said.
Mavis B. Knight, a Democrat from Dallas, introduced an amendment requiring that students study the reasons "the founding fathers protected religious freedom in America by barring the government from promoting or disfavoring any particular religion above all others."
It was defeated on a party-line vote.
Dobro je saznavati kako Veliki Brat funkcioniše. Malo me brine što citat nema komentara. Svako će izvući svoj zaključak i mirna Bačka. Meni sve liči na podziđivanje, a voda curi na sve strane.
Mi strpljivo čekamo da Amerika izgubi sve svoje sposobne ljude. Ovo je dobar korak u tom smeru.
Iz teksta se da zaključiti da je veći problem što očevi osnivači nisu u ustav stavili odredbu o razdvajanju funkcije države od funkcije obrazovanja od država/crkva podele poslova. A ovo za ekonomiju i sociologiju su potpuno u pravu.
Fla. vampire to run for president
Mar. 15, 2010 09:24 AM
WTSP-TV, Tampa, Fla.
TAMPA, Fla. - Not satisfied with living in Florida, Jonathon "The Impaler" Sharkey wants to move to Washington, D.C., to become the nation's first vampire president.
Sharkey, 45, spent Friday on a Greyhound bus with his new fiancee, Audrianna Foster, a 19-year-old girl from Ohio he met online. She too believes she is a vampire, or vampyre.
"I haven't dated a girl older than 19 since 2006," said the Tampa man as his 19-year-old daughter and his 2-year-old grandson met him at the Greyhound station. "It's good to be me."
"The Impaler" claims he's a direct descendent of Vlad II the Impaler, better known as Dracula.
He has scheduled a Monday news conference in Tampa to announce his plans to file paperwork to run for president of the United States in 2012. He recently switched his party affiliation from Independent to Republican so he can run with the GOP.
He ran for governor of Minnesota in 2006 and also had short-lived bids for U.S. Senate in 2000, U.S. President in 2004, and U.S. President in 2008.
In an extended interview with WTSP-TV, Sharkey shared well-thought-out opinions on capital punishment, the abortion issue, and veterans issues. However, he also bragged about having numerous teen-age girlfriends in recent years.
The girls have also provided several skeletons in Sharkey's closet.
- He's accused of "brainwashing" a 16-year-old in Minnesota. The two were engaged until last month. Her family now has a restraining order against Sharkey and claims his texts to her violate it.
- He reportedly admitted to harassing another 16-year-old Minnesota girl online in 2009.
- He was arrested in Tennessee several years ago and is currently on probation from Indiana after he was found guilty in 2009 of intimidating a judge. He served six months in a Marion Co. jail before his release. Sources confirm the Secret Service has had to keep him on its radar, since he moves around the country.
Sharkey was once on the Executive Committee of the Hillsborough Co. Republican Party in the 1990s, but A.J. Matthews, HCRP State Committeeman, says he didn't show any of the extreme behaviors he's exhibiting now.
"He does believe in Republican values," Matthews said. "Is he going to make a big splash with his current identification of being a vampire? That's up to the voters to decide."
Matthews said he'd help Sharkey with campaign basics, just like he would any Republican candidate. But he's been trying to advise him to focus on mainstream issues and away from the extreme behaviors.
Sharkey, meanwhile, continues to develop a movie on his campaign, "The True Impaler." You can read about the campaign on his Web site, www.TheImpalerForMNGovernor.us (http://www.theimpalerformngovernor.us).
Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-mYAoWu-O8&feature=player_embedded#)
The father of a Marine killed in Iraq and whose funeral was picketed by anti-gay protesters was ordered to pay the protesters' appeal costs. Suzanne Collins reports.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/baltimorewjz13-15750602/marine-s-father-ordered-to-pay-court-costs-18887225 (http://news.yahoo.com/video/baltimorewjz13-15750602/marine-s-father-ordered-to-pay-court-costs-18887225)
xspin3
TIPPING POINT: During a House Armed Services Committee meeting,
Congressman Hank Johnson (Dem., Ga.) worried about the impact of troops
stationed on Guam, which he established is long and narrow. "My fear is
that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip
over, uh, and capsize," Johnson said, with a totally straight face. "We
don't anticipate that," replied Adm. Robert Willard, commander of the
U.S. Pacific Fleet. The exchange was televised, and resulting clips
quickly went viral online, with millions of views. As ridicule
escalated, Johnson said he was simply "using a metaphor." (Atlanta
Journal-Constitution)
Police: Man tortured 4-year-old to death for wetting his pants
By Jason Kessler, CNN
April 16, 2010 -- Updated 0220 GMT (1020 HKT)
(CNN) -- A Michigan man could face life in prison after he allegedly tortured and ultimately killed his girlfriend's 4-year-old son last week for wetting his pants, prosecutors say.
Brandon Joshua-Frederick Hayes, 24, "systematically beat" Dominick Calhoun, 4, "pummeling [him] with fists and kicking him" on his arms, legs and genitalia, Genesee County prosecutor David Leyton told CNN.
Hayes also apparently burned the boy in the course of the torture. "The knuckles across one hand were charred," Argentine Township police chief Dan Allen said.
"I've been doing this a long time, and this is the worst case of child abuse I've ever seen," the police chief said. "In all respects, he was tortured."
Prosecutors arraigned Hayes on Thursday on nine charges, including one count of first-degree premeditated murder, one count of first-degree child abuse and one count of torture, which by itself carries a possible life sentence.
"Little Dominick met his boogeyman, and that was defendant Hayes," Genesee County Sheriff Robert Pickell said at a news conference Thursday.
CNN was unable to reach someone who could speak on Hayes' behalf.
Hayes' motivation for his savage multiday attack on the boy was that the child "had wet his pants," Leyton said. "It had happened before."
Hayes also resented the child because his "biological father wouldn't pay child support," Leyton said.
Dominick's mother, Corrine Baker, was present for at least some of the beating and tried to shield the boy from Hayes' aggression, authorities said.
"She tried to lay on top of the child to guard the child against being beat any further, but she was beat in the process," according to the police chief.
The sequence of events that led to the discovery of the abuse began when Baker's sister and several acquaintances came to the apartment to buy drugs from Hayes, according to Allen. After seeing Dominick's condition, the sister alerted the boy's paternal grandfather, who in turn contacted authorities.
When emergency responders entered the apartment on the afternoon of April 11, Dominick was "barely alive." EMS transferred him to Hurley Hospital in Flint, where he was pronounced brain dead.
The boy was taken off life support the following morning.
Dominick's mother's whereabouts and actions through all portions of the torture session remain somewhat hazy. The county prosecutor said his office is "still investigating her involvement in all this."
"She's also culpable for putting him in the dangerous position in the first place," he added.
Baker was taken into custody on Sunday but released later. Attempts to reach her at her home Thursday evening were unsuccessful.
The town police chief said Baker and her son had been brought to the attention of Genesee County Department of Child Services on several occasions. The agency did not respond to CNN's requests for comment Thursday.
It was not immediately clear whether Baker's involvement with the child services agency predated her relationship with Hayes. The police chief said he believed Baker and Hayes had been together for about six months.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/15/michigan.child.torture/index.html (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/15/michigan.child.torture/index.html)
Phoebe Prince, 15, a recent immigrant from Ireland, settled with her family in South Hadley, Mass., and in 2009 she enrolled at South Hadley High School as a freshman. The trouble seems to have started when Phoebe briefly dated a popular senior football player from her school. This action was deemed insufferable by a group of girls at her school, later dubbed the "Mean Girls" by prosecutors. A group of seven girls launched a vendetta to make it impossible for Phoebe to remain in school. They knocked her books out of her hands, threw things at her, scribbled her face out of photographs on the walls at school, sent her threatening text messages and called her "Irish slut" and "whore" on popular social networking web sites such as Facebook and Twitter. Most of the bullying occurred on school grounds during school and was at times witnessed by a number of faculty and students, who did nothing.
Finally, after months of bullying, on January 14, 2010, her tormentors threw a can at Phoebe while she was walking home from school. That was the last straw. She went home and hanged herself. Her sister found her body in the stairwell of their home later that day. Her tormentors continued their harassment of Phoebe even after her death on her Facebook page. According to a parent who wished to remain anonymous to avoid reprisals against her daughter, on the day Phoebe died one of the accused bullies entered "accomplished" as her status on her Facebook page. Administrators say they were unaware of Phoebe's plight until a week before her death when a student entered a classroom and called Phoebe a slut in front of the teacher. Police arrested nine students in connection with Phoebe's death and so far six have been indicted: Kayla Narey, 17, Ashley Longe, 16, Flannery Mullins, 16, Sharon Chanon Velazquez, 16 and two young men: Sean Mulveyhill, 17 and Austin Renaud, 18. Since there are no laws specifically against bullying, prosecutors are relying on a combination of laws dealing with stalking, civil rights and statutory rape.
Dobro si to našao. Zastrašujuće je. Moja unuka, 10 g, na sajtu ljubitelja mačaka, suočila se sa idiotom čiji je virtuelni mačor Emo izazvao njenu virtuelnu ljubimicu i - ubio je. Eno, dete plače. Upozorio sam ćerku da je to samo početak i da mora da vodi računa kako se veza njene ćerke sa virtuelnim ostvaruje.
Ima ovde jos tog zla, evo i za DusMana da se utesi, da nije njemu najgore :
13 Worst Cases of Bullying
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/photogallery/worst-cases-of-bullying.html?curPhoto=2 (http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/photogallery/worst-cases-of-bullying.html?curPhoto=2)
Evo jos jedan fejsbuk related :
Alexis Pilkington, 17, of Suffolk County, N.Y., was a popular student, an athlete and had graduated early with a soccer scholarship to college. This, however, did not make her immune to cyberbullying. Alexis allegedly received cruel and hurtful messages and threats on Facebook. On March 21, 2010, Alexis killed herself, but the cyberbullying continued, even on her memorial page. Her friends found the comments disturbing and reported them to police who are reviewing all posts made to Alexis before and after her death. Interestingly, her parents do not think her suicide was caused by the bullying, but have not proposed an alternate theory.
Ови несрећници су извршили самоубиство, али има и маса оних који су се вратили наоружани у школу и почели да прангијају... xuzi style
Da li im je palo na pamet da prestanu da koriste nalog na Fejsbuku?
Е, сад стварно имаш неке ненормалне идеје!! xrofl
:)
VAŠINGTON - Dva bivša američka generala upozorila su da bi rastući procenat gojazne dece mogao da ugrozi budućnost američke vojske i zatražila od Kongresa da donese zakone kojim bi se deci garantovala bolja
ishrana u školi.
Najnovija istraživanja pokazuju da je svaki četvrti mladi Amerikanac predebeo za vojsku.
Bivši generali Džon Šalikašvili i Hju Šelton tvrde da debljina izbacuje iz stroja daleko više regruta nego bilo koji medicinski faktor.
Oni od Kongresa traže da donese zakone kojim bi američkoj deci u školama bila zagarantovana bolja ishrana, sa manje šećera, soli i masti, piše "Vašington post", a prenosi Bi-Bi-Si.
Šalikašvili i Šelton, obojica bivši načelnici Združenog generalštaba američkih oružanih snaga, istakli su da "gojaznost preti opštem zdravstvenom stanju Amerikanaca i budućoj snazi američke vojske".
Oni smatraju da je taj problem do te mere ozbiljan s tačke gledišta nacionalne bezbednosti da su pokrenuli akciju kako bi se u Kongresu izglasao novi zakon o dečjoj ishrani koju je podržalo još stotinak penzionisanih visokih oficira.
Šalikašvili i Šelton podsetili su na zakone iz 1946. godine o potrebi pojačane ishrane školske dece.
- Moramo da delujemo, kao što smo uradili posle Drugog svetskog rata, kako bi naša deca jednog dana mogla da brane domovinu ako za to bude potrebe - istakli su generali.
Преузето из Вечерње Новости.
Taj Šalikašvili se mnogo šalika. Taj moron je i nama žario i palio.
Ne znam da postavim link, ali NYT obaveštava o većoj muci sa naftom koja curi u Meksički zaliv. Zanimljivo je da su zaključili da BP i vlada lažu.
Scientists Find Giant Plumes of Oil Forming Under the Gulf
By JUSTIN GILLIS
The discovery of the plumes, one as large as 10 miles long, is evidence that the leak from the well could be substantially worse than estimates that BP and the government have given
Nisam nigde video da je utvrđeno od kada to curi i kako misle da zaustave dalje curenje.Ovo što se formira na površini je već šteta koja je ogromna,ali ge je kraj?
Nisi zapazio reč - Under. Curi to već par nedelja i ne vidi se kraj. Muka je što nove tehnologije bušenja nisu uključile novu tehnologiju zapušavanja. Čitava civilizacija počiva na otvaranju, ali ne i na zatvaranju Pandorine kutije. Kao što znaju da započnu kavgu, ali ne znaju da je okončaju.
Imamo već temu koja se bavi trenutnom katastrofom: http://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/index.php?topic=9070.0 (http://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/index.php?topic=9070.0) . Za sada nam nije dovoljno katastrofična.
Scallope, stavljanje linka je običan Copy-Paste. Link svake stranice do koje si došao brauzerom se nalazi u belom polju na vrhu prozora brazera. Selektuj taj tekst, Copy (Ctrl+C), zatim kad edituješ tekst na Znaku Sagite uradiš Paste (Ctrl+V). Obavezno rastavi tačku ili zarez od linka, kao što sam ja uradio gore.
A sad ću se poslužiti jednom Bobanovom maksimom:
Mac, ne znam kako da ti se zahvalim, pa ti se zato neću ni zahvaljivati.
Svi smo mi pomalo kurve, samo neki uzimaju i pare.
najbolje sto se za okolis moglo desiti; usporedivo sa sandozom 1986.
Mali prilog za vedro vreme. U Nju Jorku pljuju šofere GSP, a oni uzmu plaćeno odsustvo za lečenje duševnog bola.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/nyregion/25spit.html?hp/ (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/nyregion/25spit.html?hp/)
Prelepo:
Peruvian child becomes symbol of US undocumented (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100531/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_peru_girl_immigration)
Quote from: scallop on 25-05-2010, 08:23:49
Mali prilog za vedro vreme. U Nju Jorku pljuju šofere GSP, a oni uzmu plaćeno odsustvo za lečenje duševnog bola.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/nyregion/25spit.html?hp/ (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/nyregion/25spit.html?hp/)
Scallope, nedavno sam imao dva slucaja gde je klijentima zakazano isporucenje robe, a potom otkazano i datum pomeren za 48 ili 72 casa (i dalje ostajuci u roku predvidjenom ugovorom). Klijenti su mi trazili pare za "pretrpljeni dusevni bol, razocarenje i frustraciju". Kako sve to nije upisano u ugovoru, roba im je isporucena u okviru ugovorenog vremena, a oni su za dusevni bol dobili xfuck5
Ne razumem vezu između vozača gradskog prevoza koji imaju crno na belo obim zaštite na radnom mestu, pa iz toga proizilazi pravo na oporavak od pljuvanja i onoga što si ti napisao. Mene je nasmejala moguća veza između potrebe za plaćenim odsustvom i "prijatelja" koji to lako "obezbeđuju" - pljune te i zbriše, a ti na zasluženu pauzu. To može da se profesionalizuje, kao kad je Čarli Čaplin popravljao prozore, a Džeki Kugan ih razbijao.
He, sviđa mi se ovo sa profesionalnim pljuvačima :|
Veza je u tome da se po novim pravilima danasnjeg drustva trazi novcana odsteta za bilo koji osecaj frustracije. Individualizam je doveo narcisoidnost do maksimuma, te osobe nisu vise spremne da istrpe ikakvu frustraciju (ne materijalnu stetu), a da za to ne traze da im se daju pare (ne izvinjenje ili objasnjenje).
Izmislio si vezu. Ne postoji. U NY GSP nema sudskih procesa oko pljuvanja. Rupa u obavezama koje proističu iz radnog odnosa.
Izmislio sam ili sam povezao ili me je asociralo. Kako ti volja... xcheers
što bi Buš (tačnije čovek koji ga je imitirao) rekao: If great depression was so terrible, why do people call it 'great'?
Irokezi se ne predaju
Indijanski tim nije otputovao na svetsko prvenstvu u sportu koji je izum njihovog plemena, jer insistira da putuje sa pasošima ,,svoje nacije"
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politika.co.rs%2Fuploads%2Frubrike%2F142721%2Fi%2F1%2FThe-American-Indian-lacrosse-team.jpg&hash=b5b76e8aae6673c168371b355ab50b621cb729ee)
Članovi indijanskog ,,lakros" tima koji nije otputovao na turnir u Velikoj Britaniji (Foto Beta)
Od našeg stalnog dopisnika
Vašington, jula – Pitanje statusa domorodaca Amerike, koji su, zato što je Kolumbo otkrivši ,,novi svet" mislio da je stigao do Indije, nazvani Indijancima – još nije rešeno, sudeći po zapletu koji je prošle nedelje ostao bez raspleta u Njujorku.
Tamo se grupa od 50 pripadnika Konfederacije Irokeza, saveza indijanskih plemena osnovanog još pre dolaska belaca na ovaj kontinent, svakodnevno uredno pojavljivala na odlaznom terminalu aerodroma ,,Džon Kenedi" da bi otputovali u Mančester, u Veliku Britaniju, na svetsko prvenstvo u ,,lakrosu", sportu koji je njihova hiljadugodišnja tradicija i koji polako usvaja i ostatak sveta.
Pojavili bi se, a onda let ,,prebukirali" za sutradan, u nadi da će granična kontrola pristati da uvaži njihove pasoše sa žutim koricama – pasoše njihove nacije, a ne ,,strane", američke, iako im je ponuđeno da ih dobiju po ekspresnom postupku.
Obrazlažu da su sa sopstvenim putnim dokumentima odlazili na sve dosadašnje internacionalne ,,lakros" turnire. U federaciju tog sporta, uostalom, učlanjeni su kao posebna nacija, između Irske i Italije. Država u kojoj žive, SAD, nešto je niže na tom spisku sa 23 članice.
Problem je prvo bio što je britanski konzulat zatražio da američke imigracione vlasti garantuju da će celom timu, igračima i pratiocima, biti dozvoljen ponovni ulazak u Ameriku sa neobičnim dokumentima, ni izdaleka tako ,,osiguranim" kao moderni pasoši, jer su neki podaci u njima napisani rukom.
To je prvo zvanično odbijeno, uz pozivanje na pooštreni režim putnih isprava usvojen posle 11/9, što je ovde šifra za napad Al Kaide na Ameriku u septembru 2001. A onda je, na intervenciju nekih senatora države Njujork gde se nalazi rezervat Konfederacije Irokeza, posebnom odlukom državne sekretarke Hilari Klinton (koja je kao senator svojevremeno takođe zastupala Njujork), napravljen ,,jednokratni izuzetak": odobreno im je da im se sopstveni pasoši uvaže.
Ali, britanski konzulat, očigledno u dogovoru sa Londonom, ostao je pri tome da u indijanske dokumente neće udariti vize. Irokezi, koji su na prošlom prvenstvu bili četvrti, tako nisu stigli u četvrtak na prvi meč protiv Engleske, a pošto se nisu pojavili ni u petak, premešteni su u nižu takmičarsku grupu.
Ostali su međutim rešeni da ne prihvate ,,strane pasoše", jer je to ,,uvreda njihovog ponosa i udarac njihovom suverenitetu". ,,Kao domorodački narod Severne Amerike, mi već više od 200 godina imamo ugovore i međunarodne odnose sa našim bratom, Sjedinjenim Državama", obrazlaže tu situaciju u listu ,,Indijanska zemlja" vođa tima Oren Lajons Džoagišo.
Kad sam telefonom pozvao ,,Irokeski indijanski muzej", koji se nalazi u mestu Houez Kejv, oko 250 kilometara severno od Njujorka, za sagovornicu sam dobio ,,edukatorku" (kustosa) po imenu Tarbel (objasnila im je da se u plemenskoj tradiciji koristi samo jedno ime). ,,Ne razumem u čemu je problem", komentariše ona novonastalu situaciju. ,,Znam da je Navaho nacija popustila i prihvatila američke pasoše, pa to sada koriste ne bi li primorali i nas. Mi ih međutim nećemo uzeti, nastavićemo da koristimo svoje, jer želimo da ostanemo suverena nacija"
,,Uostalom, mi smo ovde bili i pre nego što je stvorena Amerika", ponosno naglašava.
Saznao sam i da je u projekat modernizacije plemenskih pasoša već uloženo 1,5 miliona dolara i da će time problem njihove tehničke verodostojnosti biti rešen. Ali, po svemu sudeći, ne i onaj drugi.
Irokezi su ovim povodom potegli i argument Univerzalne deklaracije Ujedinjenih nacija o ljudskim pravima, čiji član 13 garantuje slobodu kretanja, uključujući tu i slobodu da se izađe iz zemlje i u nju vrati.
Uz to, smatraju da je insistiranje da nose američke dokumente kršenje njihovih ugovora sa Sjedinjenim Državama (čega je inače u istoriji domorodaca bilo mnogo).
Zvanično tumačenje je međutim da to nije slučaj. Pravnici naime tvrde da ,,domorodačke nacije" imaju suverenitet, ali njegovu nižu vrstu, u stvari status ,,domaće zavisne nacije". To je vrsta ,,nesuverene suverenosti".
Irokeza, čiji je savez prvo pet, a potom šest plemena stvoren još u 15 veku, danas ima oko 80.000 u Americi (rezervat im je u severnom delu države Njujork) i oko 40.000 u Kanadi. Poznati su kao ,,narod dugih kuća" (nisu kao ostali domoroci živeli u šatorima od kože, vigvamima, kao većina ostalih). Bili su, inače, tokom 17. i 18. veka, jedna od moćnih sila na severu kontinenta koji su već osvojili evropski doseljenici. Poznati su bili po organizovanoj poljoprivredi (trojstvo: stabljika kukuruza, pasulj koji se uspija uz nju i bundeva pored, njihov je izum, kao i kokice). Iz njihovih redova potiče čuveni poglavica koji je i lik u mnogim knjigama, Hijavata.
,,Lakros" (,,dehačingva ehs" na jeziku Irokeza), sport koji se danas igra na fudbalskom igralištu, takođe sa po 11 igrača u svakom timu, ali sa manjim golovima (1,8 X 1,8 metara), sa dugim štapovima na čijem kraju je reket sa labavom mrežicom kojom se hvata i prenosi lopta, plemenska je tradicija od pamtiveka. Nekad se nadmetalo i po hiljadu igrača na svakoj strani, na poljani od nekoliko kilometara.
Danas je popularan, pre svega, u ovdašnjim školama, ali se širi i u svetu (igra se recimo i u Bugarskoj i Sloveniji). ,,Lakros je od nas počeo... I kako sad ne možemo na turnir u čast naše igre", vajka se Denis Voterman, jedan od vođa puta.
Tim Irokeza bio je u Njujorku i u petak, u nadi da će u poslednji čas ipak otputovati. Mogli su to da učine i u utorak, ali je cena – uzimanje američkih pasoša, za njih bila previsoka. Irokezi se, vele, ne predaju.
Milan Mišić
objavljeno: 18/07/2010
http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Irokezi-se-ne-predaju.lt.html (http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Irokezi-se-ne-predaju.lt.html)
Ovo je vrlo zabavno, uz jutarnju kafu. Nekako se nameće misao da se, nasuprot globalizaciji, rađa pokret individualizacije. Dok se na jednoj strani svet upinje da kolektivizuje identitete, raznolikost se upinje da se održi po svaku cenu. Ova reakcija ima svoj smisao jer svašta se može uloviti kad se mute velike vode. Potreba za apsolutnom dominacijom koje se kapitalizam drži ko pijan plota, udarajući usput po svemu što vidi kao prepreku, bilo da su to teritorije, nacije, religije ili samo lokalni običaj tucanja jaja na Uskrs, izaziva reakciju tipičnu za borbu održanja vrsta, te lako prepoznajemo rađanje nekog humanodiverziteta (ili kajgod).
U opštem balkanskom kašnjenju, treba razmisliti o klisu, hrkljušu, alci ili makar piljcima, kao sredstvu borbe za sopstveni identitet, ako smo sve ostalo pogubili ili više ne prepoznajemo. :lol:
xcheers
Konačna podela homo sapiensa:Ljudi sa amnezijom i ljudi bez amezije.
Čitam o posledicama "svetske krize" po evro. Pitam se dokle će SAD da izazivaju "velike svestske krize" a svet da ih plaća? Da li je to cilj globalizacije? Da neko može nesmetano da se kocka sa svetskom privredom?
Neposredan povod za ovu krizu bili su hipotekarni krediti u SAD. Zašto, onda, vidim na reklamnim panoima u Evropi i Beogradu oglas firme "Century 21"?
Juli baš bio plodonosan mesec.Videćemo šta nosi avgust.
Deadliest month of Afghan war for U.S.
30 July 2010 | 16:28 -> 16:50 | Source: BBC
LONDON -- American forces have experienced their deadliest month in the nine-year-old Afghan war, with 63 US service members killed in July.
June's record of 60 was surpassed after it was confirmed three soldiers killed in the south of the country on Thursday were Americans.
Meanwhile, hundreds of UK and Afghan troops launched a major offensive against the Taliban in Helmand.
Casualties have risen as the war escalates against a resurgent Taliban.
US President Barack Obama ordered 30,000 reinforcements to Afghanistan last December.
On Friday morning, British and Afghan troops pushed into the Nad Ali district of Helmand, aiming to flush the Taliban from one of its strongholds in the province.
Operation Tor Shezada, which means black prince, is said to be UK forces' largest operation since Moshtarak in February 2010.
Nad Ali is one of the areas that UK forces were unable to clear during Moshtarak.
June this year was the deadliest month since the US-led invasion of 2001 for international forces in Afghanistan, with 102 service members killed, according to the independent iCasualties website.
American deaths this month included sailors Justin McNeley and Jarod Newlove, who were found dead this week after driving out of a base at eastern Logar province last Friday for reasons that remain unclear.
http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2010/05/17/life-magazine-1958/ (http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2010/05/17/life-magazine-1958/)
Police: Man holds hostages in Discovery building
SILVER SPRING, Md. – A man upset with the Discovery Channel's environmental programming took several people hostage at the company's headquarters Wednesday, officials said.
Police were negotiating with the gunman, who burst into the suburban Washington building about 1 p.m. wearing what seemed to be metallic canisters strapped to his front and back and waving a handgun.
The gunman had what Montgomery County Police Chief Thomas Manger described as a "small number of hostages" but he did not say how many. He also did not say what the man wants or whether anyone was hurt.
Manger said most of the 1,900 people who work in the building were able to get out safely.
A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing said authorities have identified James J. Lee as the likely suspect. Police believe he has a handgun but have not confirmed that he has explosives, the official said.
A different official, who spoke on condition of anonymity for the same reason, said Lee previously protested outside the building.
According to a story in The Gazette, which covers Montgomery County, Lee was arrested there in 2008 after throwing thousands of dollars in the air outside the building.
Lee said he planned the protest because Discovery's programming had little to do with saving the planet. He was identified then as being from San Diego, Calif., although he gave a local address of a homeless shelter.
At the trial, he said he began working to save the planet after being laid off from his job in San Diego. He said he was inspired by "Ishmael," a novel by environmentalist Daniel Quinn and by former Vice President Al Gore's documentary "An Inconvenient Truth."
Adam Dolan, a sales director in Discovery's education division, told The Associated Press by phone that he was heading to lunch with a co-worker when he heard there was a situation in the building.
He was told to go back up to the top floor, lock the door and turn off the lights. Eventually the workers were herded down a stairwell and told to go home.
"Everyone was very scared, but at the same time ... I think people were calm and collected and responded as one would expect in this situation," said Dolan, 28.
When he got to the bottom floor, he saw shattered glass near the company's daycare and suspected it was broken to get the children out. He later got an e-mail that all the children were safe and had been taken to a McDonald's.
Dolan said the company has unarmed security guards who won't let anyone into the building without a badge.
Another person inside the building told The Associated Press the gunman had something strapped to his chest and had hostages. The person asked not to be identified, saying people inside were told not to speak to the media.
ATF and FBI officials also said they were responding. Authorities descended on the area, and people were being kept away from the main drag of the downtown area where the building is located amid restaurants and shops. Traffic in the area was jammed.
Discovery Communications Inc. operates cable and satellite networks in the U.S., including The Discovery Channel, TLC and Animal Planet. Discovery shows include "Cash Cab" and "Man vs. Wild," and TLC airs "American Chopper" and "Kate Plus Eight."
Animal Planet also airs the controversial series "Whale Wars," about attempts by environmentalists to disrupt the Japanese whaling industry.
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Associated Press Writers Terence Hunt, Matt Apuzzo, Eileen Sullivan and Nafeesa Syeed in Washington, Ben Nuckols in Baltimore and Jacob Jordan in Atlanta contributed to this report.
Quote from: scallop on 19-07-2010, 08:47:16
Ovo je vrlo zabavno, uz jutarnju kafu. Nekako se nameće misao da se, nasuprot globalizaciji, rađa pokret individualizacije.
Najveći antiglobalisti (bar oni tako za sebe kažu) su Severnokorejci.
Ne uočavam da se kod njih ili Vijetnamaca, Laoščana, Kubanaca ili Kineza rađa individualizam kao kult.
pa individualizam i nije kult.
Kako kome.
Sve može da bude kult ako se uzdigne na nivo obožavanja.
Meni se upravo čini obrnuto u odnosu na mišljenje Skalopa.
Da je individualizam jači nego ikad i to upravo na zapadu.
Upravo individualizam tera ženu da se posveti sebi i karijeri zarad rađanja i rane udaje.
U drevno vreme imperativ je bio interes kolektiva. Naročito familije ili nacije.
Ako tata kaže da moraš u brak s nekim, sličnog materijalnog stanja, onda nema vrdanja.
Da ne govorim koliko je u prošlosti sve bilo podređeno interesu nacije. Ideš u rat u kom ćeš izgubiti nogu, ruku, život, ali kolektivizam to zahteva od tebe.
Nisi u pravu za individualizam u Americi. To se propoveda, i to je njihov mit, ali imaju Amerikanci običaj da se grupišu, kao i svaka druga masa.
To je tačno.
No ipak je više tzv.individualista nego pre.
Sama popularnost ,,Seksa i grada'' i sličnih serija, dokaz je toga.
Postavlja se pitanje šta je zdrav individualizam.
Ima osoba, koje napuste roditeljski dom, odu na drugi kraj planete i jave im se tek posle 5 godina telefonom da pitaju stare kako su.
To je već prelazak iz zdravog individualizma u sebičnost.
Quote from: Lomljavina on 01-09-2010, 23:22:00
Sve može da bude kult ako se uzdigne na nivo obožavanja.
a onda to nije individualizam već narcizam.
kad je nešto kult, kao što je individualizam u Americi, onda je to KOLEKTIVISTIČKA ideologija. Tako je individualIZAM kolektivistička ideologija isto kao i komunizam.
Ostaje samo personalizam.
http://www.republika.co.rs/374-375/19.html (http://www.republika.co.rs/374-375/19.html)
Quote from: Lomljavina on 01-09-2010, 23:22:00
Meni se upravo čini obrnuto u odnosu na mišljenje Skalopa.
Veoma sam srećan što je tvoje mišljenje suprotno mome. Lakše mi je.
Ja samo mislim da vi grešite ako mislite da je Amerika predvodnik ičega.
Ona je samo najjača zemlja na svetu sa najvećim budžetom i that's all.
Van tog USA nije predvodnik ničega, al' bukvalno ničega.
Bilo pozitivnog bilo negativnog.
Čak štaviše jako je raspolućena.
1) Najveća kapitalistička zemlja danas? - AUSTRALIJA deifitivno.
Nekad je bila Amerika, ali zbog velikih ovlašćenja samih stejtova, nekoliko njih je vrlo davno prešlo na socijalističke koncepte.
Od dolaska Obame to se tek promenilo, tako da je sve više stejtova koji preuzimaju socijalistički koncpet.
Posle Australije tu su Novi Zeland, Britanija, pa čak je možda i Rusija danas više kapitalistička ako ne od Amerike bar od većine Evrope.
2) Predvodnik ljudska prava? - Skandinavija, Beneluks, Kanada, Argentina...
Druga polovina 20.og veka bila je borba za prava crnaca. Nakon izvojevane ravnopravnosti sad je na redu ravnopravnost gej populacije.
Maksimalna gej prava s brakovima imaju 7-8 drugih zemalja, ali ne i SAD.
Stejtovi su vrlo podeljeni po tom pitanju. Severni stejtovi gledaju s divljenjem u Kanadu, a južni konzervativni i hrišćanski stejtovi u neke tradicionalističke delove sveta. Ne postoji prepoznatljiv stav SAD o takvim pitanjima.
Slična stvar je kad je reč o ženskim pravima itd.
3) Sekularizam
Ovde takođe USA nije ni po čemu prepoznatljiva.
Francuska ili Kanada sinonimi su sekularne države, gde crkve nemaju usticaj.
Iran ili Malezija bili bi teokratski antipodi.
U SAD je princip kako se kome stejtu ćefne. Severoistični stejtovi su kao Francuzi, a južnjački kao neka vrsta hrišćanskog Irana.
4) Obrazovanje.
Ponovo nedostatak jedinstvenog zaključka.
Masačusets sa 10 000 univerziteta i školskih ustanova je fascinantan, a Tenesi ima maltene samo verske škole.
Kako god uzmeš tu USA državu, nema više ničeg specifičnog u njoj. Nit dobro nit loše.
A kad je već tako taj severoistočni kontinent treba rasformirati.
Od USA države otcepiti sve ono što je moderno i progresivno (Njujork, Masačusets, Ilinois i Kaliforniju) i pripojiri VELIKOJ KANADI, gde ove sredine kulturološki i pripadaju, a ostataj SAD-a tzv. JESUSLAND pustiti niz vodu
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Grande Canada rules! :|
а Мејн, Вермонт и тако те? јок? кладим се да би се Амери одушевили оваквом картом...толико да те у најмању руку испрепуцају на улици! :)
Bouže pa nisam ja autor.
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Inače ta karta i jeste odraz pravog stanja stvari.
Za Njujork, Čikago i Boston mnogo bi bolje bilo da se pripoje Kanadi.
Inače ova tri grada su skoro uvek glasali protiv Buša i protiv bilo koga, ko je za ratnu opciju, ali im je džabe.
Konzervativni ostatak USA-a je u nadmoćnoj većini.
Ok je što su Jenkiji sa severa napali južnjake da bi ih oslobodili crnce ropstva, ali pogrešno je bilo što su ih primorali da žive u zajedničkoj državi.
Južnjake je trebalo pustiti niz vodu, a od severa proglasiti REPUBLIKU KANADSKU (Amerika i onako ne znači ništa).
Toronto da im bude ko Srbima Beograd.
Njujork = Banjaluka. :!:
S takvim granicama tačno bi se znalo šta je šta.
Kanada - simbol modernjaštva,
Jesusland - simbol konzervativizma.
A ovako imamo malu Kanadu, koja ne može biti imperija jer je ledara (osim ako globalno zagrevanje ne učini svoje)
i veštačku US Ameriku, u kojoj sever fura jedan fazon, a jug drugi.
R A S F O R M I R A T I !
а Мексико је приказан црном бојом, како и заслужује! :mrgreen:
Lomljavino, ovo ti je čak među boljim postovima, samo što si naredao neke osobine SADa ne shvatajući da je baš zahvaljujući njima ona predvodnik.
Quote from: Lomljavina on 02-09-2010, 00:39:491) Najveća kapitalistička zemlja danas? - AUSTRALIJA deifitivno.
Nekad je bila Amerika, ali zbog velikih ovlašćenja samih stejtova, nekoliko njih je vrlo davno prešlo na socijalističke koncepte.
Od dolaska Obame to se tek promenilo, tako da je sve više stejtova koji preuzimaju socijalistički koncpet.
Posle Australije tu su Novi Zeland, Britanija, pa čak je možda i Rusija danas više kapitalistička ako ne od Amerike bar od većine Evrope.
ajd što miješaš kapitalizam sa slobodnim tržištem (postoji i tržišni socijalizam), još je veći problem što ne shvataš da
slobodno tržište nikad ni nigdje nije stvorilo ništa. A ti nađi tu zemlju ako možeš. Ili je bila kolonijalna sila koja je eksploatisala neke jadne azijske/afričke zemlje (dakle direktna stejt ekonomija), ili je napala npr Irak da bi smanjila cijenu otkupa nafte.
A slobodno tržište ništa nije stvorilo. Kad bi stvaralo Srbiji ne bi bile potrebne ''strane investicije'', već bi nešto moglo i samo da stvori.
Ako nemaš kolonije imaš ''strane investicije'', odnosno ti si kolonija.
Quote2) Predvodnik ljudska prava? - Skandinavija, Beneluks, Kanada, Argentina...
ne vidim nikakvu vezu sa predvodništvom bilo čega. Holandija je #1 što se ljudskih prava tiče zadnjih 5 stotina godina, pa su i dalje mala zemljica sa 15 miliona stanovnika. Za to vrijeme, sve autoritarne države su izbile u prvi plan, od Napoleonove Francuske, Njemačkog carstva, Sovjetskog Saveza i danas SADa.
Nijedna od njih ne poštuje (ili nije poštovala pa je zato i propala) ljudska prava.
Quote3) Sekularizam
opet, šta ovo sa predvodništvom ima veze? Sve najjače zemlje svijeta uvijek su bile itekako kolektivističke i iracionalne. Razum je čak neki odraz dekadencije, kao nekoliko posljednjih decenija austrougarske kulture, sve te refleksije su samo pederski oproštaji od velike politike.
Quote4) Obrazovanje.
ista stvar kao i sa sekularizmom, ne vidim da su Srbi nešto napravili od sebe zato što imaju 14 predmeta u srednjoj školi, uključujući filozofiju, dok Ameri imaju domaćinstvo i slične zgubidanije.
I onda prži krompir u Meku za veće pare nego naš doktor nauka.
ja se pitam kad će napokon naši da ukapiraju the genius of that?
1) Slobodno tržište je potpuno poseban korak u odnosu na proizvodnju.
To je distribucija, tako da po definiciji ne može ništa ni proizvesti.
Slobodno tržište se od planiranog razlikuje po tome što će
u planiranom država namerno da ogrniči uvoz stranih automobila ili stranih čokolada, ne bi li primorala građane da kupuju i domaće (strani proizvodi imali bi veću cenu).
U slobodnom tržištu nema tih intervencija države i sve što nije komercijalno i što narod neće da kupuje osuđeno je na propast.
Postoje zemlje, koje nisu bile velike kolonijalne sile, a da su ostvarile veliki napredak. To su: Italija, Švajcarska, Danska, Švedska, Finska, Nemačka, Južna Koreja, Češka, Japan.
Da je samo reč o parama uzetim iz kolonijalnog vremena Francuska i Britanija bi bankrotirale par godina po otcepljenju kolonija.
Ipak postoji nešto i u organizovanoj privredi, radu...
Finska nikog nije okupirala, a eto dobila brend NOKIA, koji joj je unapredio privredu debelo.
2) U Holandiji postoje prava na: eutanaziju, istopolni brak, korišćenje lakih droga.
Primila je i milion muslimana i nekoliko stotina hiljada crnaca.
S druge strane postoje i veće sankcije u toj zemlji. Recimo za one, koji tuku žene.
Pretučena supruga ima pravo da izbaci muža iz kuće iako je pre braka pripadala njemu.
Šta je sad ovde dobro, šta loše, to je teško odrediti, ali je činjenica da ovo sve jesu pomaci.
No ovde je tema Amerike, pa da kažemo da Amerika nema pristup sličan holandskom. Osim možda Masačusetsa, ali on je samno 1 od 50.
3) Čisto sam rekao da Amerika nije simbol ni sekularne države ni teokratije.
Dakle ona kao zemlja nije nikakva krajnost.
4) Ne gleda se obrazovanje po broju predmeta.
Ono što Srbiju ubija je što nemamo dugu tradiciju obrazovanja.
Da li znaš nekog Srbina (svog vršnjaka) kome su fakultetski obrazovani baba i deda?
To je jako teško naći jer fakulteti kod nas postoje od skoro.
U Engleskoj možeš na ulici lako da nađeš nekog, kom je čukun čukun čukun ... deda iz ko zna kog veka imao fakultetsku diplomu.
to nije tačno za sistem obrazovanja. Nećeš naći nikoga (osim plemića) da su im svi bili obrazovani unazad 10 generacija, ma nećeš naći ni 5 generacija.
QuotePostoje zemlje, koje nisu bile velike kolonijalne sile, a da su ostvarile veliki napredak. To su: Italija, Švajcarska, Danska, Švedska, Finska, Nemačka, Južna Koreja, Češka, Japan.
Italija je imala kolonije.
Švajcarska nije ništa dobila na slobodnom tržištu, već čistim bankarskim alhemijama.
Danska - imala kolonije.
Švedska - imala kolonije
Finska - sam si rekao, tek kad su dobili Nokiu, ali ni kod njih nemaš slobodno tržište.
Njemačka - pliz, Njemačka je socijalistička superdržava
Južna KOreja je gora od Njemačke
Češka - od silnog blagostanja ne znaku šta će od sebe, pa snimaju porniće
Japan - poznat po
GVOZDENOM TROUGLU političara,biznismena i birokrata, Japan koji je direktno naređivao firmama da proizvode ovo ili ono.
Bolje da si spomenuo Norvešku, možda jedinu poštenu zemlju, ali oni su bogati zbog naftnih nalazišta a ne slobodnog tržišta ili kapitalizma.
QuoteSlobodno tržište je potpuno poseban korak u odnosu na proizvodnju.
To je distribucija, tako da po definiciji ne može ništa ni proizvesti.
to je školska priča. Proizvodi se po zahtjevima tržišta, dakle ne može to biti ''poseban korak'' već je to jedan te isti korak. A u zemaljama koje poštuju ljudska prava i gdje proizvodnju uslovljava slobodna potražnja na tržištu - e takvu ''properitetnu zemlju'' nećeš naći nigdje.
Dakle, zemlje sa gvozdenim trouglom, ekstremnim spojem države u privrede su jedine ekonomski prosperitetne zemlje.
Proizvodnja funkcioniše tako što slobodno tržište nešto zahtijeva i onda se to proizvede, a proizvodi se tako što ukradeš sirovine iz Azije ili Afrike, silom ili ih kupujući za bijedne pare ( a danas i praveći fabrike gdje neki azijati proizvode patike), pa ih koristiš u svojoj manufakturi. Da si ih platio onoliko koliko vrijede ne bi postao bogat.
QuoteDa je samo reč o parama uzetim iz kolonijalnog vremena Francuska i Britanija bi bankrotirale par godina po otcepljenju kolonija.
to je head start i nema tu tih praznih floskula
dakle neko se nakrade i dođe sa džakom punim skoro do kraja i kaže: hajde da uvedemo slobodnu konkurenciju pa ko prvi napuni džak on je pobjednik na tenderu i tome slično, nema veze što je 90% mog džaka već puno i što sam ga napunio krvavim rukama, jer sve to treba zaboraviti zarad velike demokratske evropske lomaljaste budućnosti
A ja kažem:
vraćaj pare lopužo.
Kad Englezi lijepo vrate pare koje su pokrali od Indije i ostalih zemalja, i kad isto to učine i Italija, Njemačka, Španija itd. onda ćemo da pričamo o ''predvodničkim'' pitanjima.
U Engleskoj na ulici možeš da nađeš Pakistanca, kome je i čukundeda bio Pakistanac (ili Sik, ili šta već).
Ma daj, ponovo otvaramo nove i nove teme.
Italija je imala samo kratko kolonije: Libiju i Eritreju.
Danska imala Island i Grenland. Jake kolonije.
Švedska imala jedno vreme pola Finske.
Svakako da je bolje imati kolonije nego nemati, ali to više nema skoro nikakav uticaj.
Pa Francuska izgubila Alžir još 1963. godine.
Šta je to Francuska mogla uzeti od Alžira kasnije?
Nek je pre uzimala naftu, ali ona se potroši za godinu dana i već 1964.nisu imali ništa.
Pa od svih tih zemalja jedino Bocvana i Namibija imale su neke dijamante, ostale su imale naftu.
Na kraju krajeva ta ista Francuska danas prima milione građana iz bivših kolonija.
Ako si već levičar, a čini mi se da jesi morao bi da znaš da leva ideologija ne priznaje prenos greha kroz generacije.
Desničari su ti, koji se baziraju na logici KRVI i TLA.
Ali pravi levičar nikad neće osuditi bilo kog mladog Nemca zbog greha pradedova.
Ok. Svi beli narodi su imali kolonije u prošlim vekovima, ali šta s tim?
Je l treba čitava bela rasa da se ubije zbog toga.
Pa pogledaj samo koliko je Rusija imala kolonija?
Na teritoriji Ruske Federacije je čak 15 autonomnih republika, u kojima žive kosooki stari sibirski ili kavkaski narodi, koji nisu ni Rusi ni belci.
Upravo tamo gde se iskopava najviše nafte i gasa je zemlja Tatara, Jakuta, Burjata, Baškira...
Ni oni nekad nisu bili istočno od Urala, pa šta s tim?
Nekad su jednostavno važila duga pravila.
Nije bilo ljudskih prava i svi beli narodi (tehnički superiorni) krenuli su u osvajanje pa ko šta više osvoji.
Da Portugalci nisu osvojili Brazil, osvojio bi ga neko drugi.
Da Španci nisu osvojili od Meksika do Argentine, to bi uradili Englezi.
Da Rusi ne osvojiše Sibir, ćapila bi Mongolija, Kina ili Japan.
To su bila takva vremena gde je svako grabio.
Kakve nove generacije imaju veze s tim?
Čemu sadašnje nametanje kompleksa krivice?
Naročito ako nove generacije tih država primaju milione doseljenika kod sebe i daju im šansu da rade.
Da ne govorimo o drugoj strani kolonijalizma i o tome da su neki crnci prvi put
saznali šta je pismo, šta je zgrada, šta kupatilo, a šta civilizacija.
Nemačka ti je najbolji primer za zemlju, koja se usoešno digla kao Feniks iz propasti.
Potpuno su uništeni posle rata, Berlin je bombardovan,
oduzeli su im ono malo kolonija (Togo i Tanzanija), podelili zemlju,
a Nemci (bar Zapadni Nemci) se ipak uzdignuše radom, redom i disciplinom.
Japan isto tako.
Južna Koreja isto.
Ni Nemačka ni Japan ni Južna Koreja nisu antiglobalističke države i nisu komunističke države. Čak su u antipodu u odnosu na Severnu Koreju ili bivšu Istočnu Nemačku.
Imaju elemente socijalističke države, ali u istoj meri te elemente imaju mnogi američki stejtovi, Francuska i naročito Kanada.
Međutim to sa antiglobalizmom i komunizmom nema nikakve veze.
U komunizmu ni SONY, ni PHILLIPS, ni NOKIA ni VOLVO ne bi ni smeli da se proizvedu jer je reč o privatnim ili poluprivatnim preduzećima.
brate, pročitao sam negdje do trećine i vidio da lupetaš
npr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_overseas_colonies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_overseas_colonies)
Italja koja je bila fašistička zemlja, a nakon WWII je dobila koliko milijardi tadašnjih zlatnih dolara po Maršalovom planu?
I znaš li ti uopšte šta je AKUMULACIJA? Jer mnogo lupetaš da nešto može da se potroši za godinu dana. Viševjekovna akumulacija zasnovana na krvavoj eksploataciji stvara krvnu krivicu, i nije tačno da ljevičari to ne priznaju, to upravo ne priznaju buržuji, o tome piše Džon Lok u Prvoj raspravi o vladi, dakle otac liberalizma!
A o krivici kroz generacije Žan Pol Sartr, Fredrik Džejmson i tako dalje. Džejmson koristi termin krvna krivica, da nije možda on desničar?
Zanimljiva rasprava. Samo bih sa strane ubacio:
Quoteslobodno tržište ništa nije stvorilo. Kad bi stvaralo Srbiji ne bi bile potrebne ''strane investicije'', već bi nešto moglo i samo da stvori.
Pitanje je koliko Srbija ima slobodno tržište. Mislim, daleko od toga da se ja razumem u ekonomiju, ali kod nas je cena energenata, recimo, kontrolisana na državnom nivou, a veliki monopoli poput Miškovićeve distributivne mreže koja pokriva ogroman deo distributerske mreže namirnica je svakako u suprotnostima sa savemenim shvatanjima ekonomije slobodnog tržišta.
energenti su svuda kontrolisani na državnom nivou, ako ništa drugo ono kroz subvencije naftnim kompanijama, manji porez u SAD itd...
Mišković je u svemu tome mala maca. Problem je što on dozvoljava slobodno tržište unutar Maksija, ranije je čak držao i holandske sireve i slične gluposti. Ako mu je market pun stranih proizvoda, to ti je slobodno tržište koje nas uništava.
A sve fabrike koje su poklekle pod konkurencijom zato što nisu mogle da se nose sa stranim kompanijama ni na jednom nivou, nisu propale same od sebe, jednostavno je država odlučila da ne ulaže u njih, to jest da ih iznese na slobodno tržište.
Ali da, Srbija jeste loš primjer slobodnog tržišta (ako je uopšte takvo nešto ikada postojalo), ima mnogo stvari koje država i dalje kontroliše, ali npr da ona ne drži takvu cijenu energenata davno bi bankrotirala (a možda bi i trebalo), što je žalosno, jer nema nikakav drugi priliv novca već od raznih pdv-a (jedva su ih sa pelena skinuli), mislim jadan način da se puni budžet.
A sve je to zbog izlaska na tržište.
Sjećam se jednom kada je poljski ambasador održao jedno predavanje u Beogradu (ima od tada i 5,6 godina), i rekao da Poljska nije prodavala svoja preduzeća, posebno velika i od javnog značaja, ni po koju cijenu, i da ni Srbija ne bi smjela tako nešto da uradi (a već je počela zar ne, doduše još tada nije NIS prodat li ne daj bože uskoro EPS), jer je to put u sigurnu smrt.
Bio je vrlo jasan oko toga. Zato je Poljska danas najstabilnija država istočne Evrope a mi tu gdje jesmo.
Ja se uvijek sjetim debila Čede Jovanovića koji govori kako je Srbija najmanje 50 godina zaostala u odnosu na Evropu. I potpuno se slažem, samo zašto onda ne radi ono što je Evropa radila prije 50 godina? Šta je Ruzvelt u Americi radio tridesetih? To su primjeri slični našem trenutnom ekonomskom stanju.
"Slobodno tržište" je laž kojom se traži ulaz svoje robe na tuđa tržišta. Barijere su danas u Evropi zamaskirane certifikatima i standardima koji se postavljaju da bi otežali prodor roba izvan EU. Te certifikate, naravno, izdaju organi EU za skupe pare. Na delu je dranje neviđenih razmera. Pre dve nedelje sam primetio da su sva žestoka alkoholna pića u Hrvatskoj normirana na 38% alkohola (čak i ona pića koja su opstala iz exYu. Tu se krije posebno oporezivanje pića koja stižu izvan Hrvatske. To je banalan primer, ali se možemo zapitati i zašto se ništa ne može izvesti u SAD od onoga što najbolje proizvodimo? Ne samo mi. Standard za čokoladu ne uključuje neke bitne evropske komponente čokolade, pa se može uvesti, po posebnom režimu samo "belgijska čokolada". I tako dalje...
Meho ne zna ekonomiju, jer Maxi već neko vreme nema monopol na distribuciju prehrambenih proizvoda, pa Mišković daje petama vetra.
Maxi nema, ali Delta (Maxi, Pekabeta, C market) valjda ima?
Mada moguće je da više nema 50+% tržišta, ali je ipak i dalje mnogo.
U svakom slučaju, dovoljno se nakrao, ima 30% umjesto 3% maržu, teški lopovluk je tu bio, a sve da bi se navodno Delta napumpala zarad širenja u regionu koje se nikad nije ni desilo.
Drugo moguće objašnjenje je da je vrh dozvolio monopol i visoku maržu da bi smanjio kupovnu moć stanovništva. Što smo manje u stanju da kupimo manje su šanse da kupimo stranu robu. Kupovina strane robe je najveće ekonomsko zlo za državu, jer pare otiču iz države. Sve zajedno to mu dođe kao radioterapija: ozračuješ svo tkivo da bi uništio maligno.
Budući da ja kupujem, a vi ne kupujete trebalo bi pretpostaviti da sam malo bliže tržištu nego vi. Ne sećam se kad sam poslednji put ušao u "Tempo", a "Maxi" zaobilazim odavno. Razlog nisu cene već snabdevenost. "Maxi" ima lošiju ponudu, a razlog je što je konkurencija uspešno odgovorila na monopolski pritisak. Ucenjivanje nije uspelo. Mnogo opasniji primer monopola je na tržištu mlečnih proizvoda i zajednice uljara, a tamo ne postoji konkurencija. Zapravo, uvek nam uspešno skreću nos u pogrešnom pravcu.
Trenutno sam vrlo kivan na drkadžiju direktora JKP "Gradske pijace". Čovek objašnjava da nam umesto pijaca trebaju pjace i pjacete, jer je to isto. Glavni protivnik mu je "85% populacije iznad 60 g. (to sam ja) E, ta stoka je korumpirana od strane supermarketa. Nije važno što te pijace indirektno omogućavaju preživljavanje Beograda i preko 100.000 stanovnika prigradskih naselja koji gaje poljoprivredne proizvode. Mala prodaja onemogućava stvaranje monopola supermarketa, pa je treba uništiti. Ako mislite da vas se to ne tiče, pogledajte od čega vam tate i mame kuvaju ručkove.
Ej, u pravu si sto posto!!!!!
Miško je nabio marže i domaćim proizvodima, čak je Carnex neko vrijeme napustio Maxi ali je valjda morao da se vrati. O povrću i voću da i ne pričamo... Živjela pijaca.
Quote from: Albedo 0 on 02-09-2010, 15:07:07
Miško je nabio marže i domaćim proizvodima, čak je Carnex neko vrijeme napustio Maxi ali je valjda morao da se vrati. O povrću i voću da i ne pričamo... Živjela pijaca.
...god bless hooky street, viva hooky street, long live hooky street... :evil:
Čekaj Albedo, ali od koga je je to Italija dobila pare u Maršalovom planu?
Od koga dobijaju pare Srbija, Grčka itd?
Inače ja sam takođe protiv apsolutnog slobodnog tržišta i protiv krajnjeg neoliberalizma.
No, samo hoću da kažem da se, ukoliko uslovno rečeno podelimo svet na
- GLOBO
(SAD, EU, Australija sa N.Z., Kanada, Japan sa Južnom Korejom, Malezijom i Filipinima)
i ALTER
(Kina, Rusija, Indija, Većina latino zemalja itd)
ne može reći da su prvi samo neoliberali, a drugi samo socijalsiti.
Zapravo GLOBO sile su mešavina neoliberalizma i socijalizma,
a ALTER sile takože smešane. Rusija je sve više neoliberalna, Kina takođe to postoje u značajnim segmentima. Čitav Šangaj je otvoreno tržište, dok se recimo Kuba i S.Koreja i dalje drže tog socijalističkog maksimuma - komunizma.
Danas čovek u Srbiji može biti više socijalista (kao ja) pa opet biti na strani zapada
i može biti neoliberalne orijentacije (pokret OBRAZ ili DSS su izričito u stavovima protiv komunizma), pa biti antizapadnjal, tzv.Alterac.
Samo mislim Albedo da je besmisleno da iko traži od recimo Francuske da danas otplati nekakvu naftu Alžiru, koju je uzimala pre nekih 40 godina,
ako je ta ista Francuska kasnije izašla u susret Alžircima i zaposlila 2 miliona njihovih građana kod sebe.
Pa valjda su tim primanjem i zapošljavanjem tolikog naroda već više puta odužili onaj period uzimanja iz neokolonijalizma.
Srbija ne dobija ni od koga pare... Srbija gubi na godišnjem nivou 4-5 milijardi dolara, sve dok ne skine i gaće
C'est magnifique, Hooky Street...
Ништа то не ваља. Ништа!
Odakle ti podatak da Srbija gubi na godišnjem nivou išta?
Po važećim pokazatelkjima Srbija izlazi iz recesije.
Ako su francuske jajare već toliko zadužile Alžirce,onda to znači da će oberučke prihvatiti i ispuniti zahtev haićanske vlade pa vratiti Haitiju preko 21 milijarde $ koje su im besramno apili na ime 'reparacije za nezavisnost'.Jedan od finijih primera na kakve su sve načine ispumpavane pare iz kolonija,potpuno besramno.Takva cifra bi čak i veći deo balkanskih zemalja vratila u život, a kamoli one potpune nesrećnike u Karibima.
Eh pa kad neko hoće da gleda samo jednu, antizapadnjačku stranu, uvek se mogu naći primeri.
A kamo silne milijarde pomoći koji su tom Haitiju nakon zemljotresa dale EU i SAD?
Uostalom jeste li vi Haićani il' Alžirci?
Pustite njih da se bune u svoje ime, ako se bune.
Ja koliko vidim u Francuskoj ima 8 miliona Arapa.
Da stvarno hejtuju tu zemlju pa nikad ne bi došli da žive u njoj.
Da Francuska stvarno prezire njih da li bi ih primila?
Quote from: Lomljavina on 02-09-2010, 17:46:13
Uostalom jeste li vi Haićani il' Alžirci?
Pustite njih da se bune u svoje ime, ako se bune.
a otkud ti znaš da se ne bune? Čuo si na BBC-ju?
Ja sam tamo čuo da je Srbija prosperitetna zemlja koja ekonomski napreduje iz dana u dan, a niko ne spominje 30% nezaposlenih.
I srbijia kroz strane ''investicije'' dobija 3-4 milijarde dolara godišnje, a u trgovinskom deficitu gubi 8-9 milijardi godišnje. Dakle 5-6 milijardi gubi svake godine, a to neće moći dovijeka, jer više ne mogu ni da se zadužuju sa raznim kreditima koje će mlađa generacija da vraća.
Dakle, 5-6 milijardi gube godišnje ne računajući milijarde kredita koje uzimaju a moraju da vrate sa kamatom. Šta bi tek bilo kada bi i to računali.
Verujem da je bilo podosta Kragujevčana koji su 'hejtovali' Nemačku do bola,'al zato standard',pa tamo ipak uspešno arbajtovali i lečili sirotinju...Alo,čovek Božiji,21 milijarda US $ otetih i humanitarna pomoć se nikako meriti nedaju.Zna se šta je pomoć po katastrofi a šta je otvorena pljačka.Baška dugotrajna US zakuvavanje na Haitiju i resto regionu.
A gde su tačno te haićanske milijarde? Lomljavino, opet si nešto pogrešno zapamtio? Evo gledam Vikipediju, i jeste Amerika obećala, ali nije i isporučila tu milijardu. Poslali su tehničku pomoć, i najviše keša od svih, ali ne milijardu.
WG, reci mi samo jedno.
Koja je to logika i čija da se gresi pradedova svaljuju na leđa unuka, koji zbog toga ništa nisu krivi?
Kakve veze ima današnji Nemac sa ikim, ko je ratovao za Hitlera 1942?
Kakve veze ima današnji stanovnik SAD sa indijanskim ratovima od pre više vekova, naročito ako znamo da više pola građana SAD ima pretke, koji su se naselili u SAD uveliko psole tog vremena.
U toku najvećih istrebljenja indijanaca tamo je bilo 10 miliona belaca,
a sad SAD ima 310 miliona. Ko je tamo uopšte potomak tih generacija kauboja kad većina ima pretke, koji su došli kasnije, a i da je potomak, šta s tim?
Svako valjda odgovara za sebe ne za postupak čukundede.
Isto važi za bilo koju kolonijalnu silu.
Šta je dakle poenta?
Da se nekom, samo zato što je rođen u Berlinu i to posle rata, doveka nameće kompleks krivice?
A to što taj neko nema ništa protiv ni Arapa, ni Roma ni Balkanaca ni Turaka ni gejeva niti ijedne grupe, koja je stradala u logorima NIKOM NIŠTA.
Dakle vaša poenta je da neki narodi treba da imaju večiti kompleks pradedova?
Ne pomaže ni to što im predsednici danas drži antifašističke govore, ni to što recimo Josipović svake godine dolazi na pomen Jasenovcu i govori o sramnom zločinu.
Naravno ništa od toga nije dovoljno jer oni su ah pobogu nastali iz ,,legla'' zločinačkih naroda pa je mnogo slatko da ih stalno mrzimo i stalno ih podsećamo na to.
Ma ajde bre!
Ne postoji nikakva kolektivna krivica.
Postoji samo pojedinačna.
Čak ni sami narodi ne postoje u biološkom smislu, a kamoli kolektivna krivica koja se prenosi kroz generacije.
Hajde malo da poredimo sadašnje ljude.
U današnbjem Zimbambveu veoma se krše prava belaca.
Od belaca se oduzima imanje bez ikakvog papira uz obrazloženje . I tvoj pradeda je ovo nekom možda oteo i uzeo.
Na osnovu toga oduzimaju se posedi belcima na veliku uz prećutnu podršku Mugabea.
Čik da bilo kom u sređenoj Nemačkoj otmeš imanje s takvim argumentom? Bio bi to skandal.
Međutim eto. Nekima sadašnjost nije bitna. Nemci su bili fašisti jednom, pa ćemo kompleksirati i pljuvati njihove potomke sledećih 1000 godina, a drugima sve praštati.
Quote from: mac on 02-09-2010, 18:38:39
A gde su tačno te haićanske milijarde? Lomljavino, opet si nešto pogrešno zapamtio? Evo gledam Vikipediju, i jeste Amerika obećala, ali nije i isporučila tu milijardu. Poslali su tehničku pomoć, i najviše keša od svih, ali ne milijardu.
Ok. Dali su tehničju pomoć, građevinare i najviše para od svih, ali eto ne daše milijardu,
a da su dali celu milijardu, onda bi se našao neki drugi antiamer da pita što nisu dali dve ili tri.
A da su dali 2 ili 3, onda bi neko rekao što nisu primili uz to bar i 3 miliona Haićana i dali im posao, a da su uradili i to, onda bi se neko žalio jer neki Haićanin na poslu ima neprijatnosti.
Tako je to kad se neka nacija mrzi i kad joj se iznalaze mane i loše stvari.
Uvek se može nešto naći kad se hoće.
Ne, tako je to kad neko kaže milijarda, a nije milijarda. Ja nisam protiv Amerike generalno, nego protiv paušalnih izjava. Hoću da kažem, nije politika u pitanju, Lomljavino, ono što ti zameram(o)...
Što se tiče zločina očeva stvari su jednostavne. Deca nisu kriva, ali deca moraju da vrate stvari na ono što je bilo, ako želimo pravdu. Ako deca ne vrate na staro, onda koriste efekte dela svojih očeva. Ako moj otac ukrade pare i preda ih meni, to i dalje nisu moje pare.
Nisam pročitao ceo Lomi napis,predugo je,izvinjavam se ako sam nešto nepažnjom ispustio.Elem,Haiti uzimam kao arhetip kolonijalne pljačke jer je relativno svež (pljačka/dug uplaćivan do 1947. ako se nevaram) a raja imala muda od mesinga pa tražila pare natrag.Barataš Wikipediom,proveri sam kako i zašto.Inspiriše!
A,da!Ne optužujem nemačko,britansko,rusko,US il japansko dete za ratove koje su nepravedno započinjali njihovi dedovi.Ali zato cenim da se barem pare koje su države okrale bespravno,ako išta i gde je to očito,moraju vratiti.Pod parama podrazumevam i kulturno i ostalo 'blago.
Lomljavino, a odakle se stvorio taj bijelac u Zimbabveu? Bio crnac pa doš'o Čak Noris i ovaj preblijedio od straha? Ne smaraj...
Josipovićeva generacija je etnički očistila Hrvatsku, a njihovi očevi i djedovi su izvršili genocid. Lomljavino generacijo moja, pošto seko mleko? Ne smaraj...
I šta koji kurac znači ovo Njemci su BILI fašisti, alo brate, koliko košta ljudski život? Hajde reci koliko košta tvoj, pa ću da ti donesem pare i jednu kamu da te riješim bijede, a ti onda nemoj ništa da spočitavaš mojim potomcima, ok?
I ne znam zašto misliš da svodiš EKONOMSKA PITANJA ne neke genocidne manijake poput gore navedenih. Pare nazad, trošili su vaši (a ne moji) očevi, molim pare nazad. Kao što ću ja morati da vraćam 30 milijardi spoljnog duga Srbije (iako nisam vidio ni dolar tih para, vidio sam ih posredno, kroz infrastrukturu, ulaganja u školstvo i tome slično), tako neko napokon mora da vrati pare koje mu je čukundjed UKRAO.
Šta bre, po tvojoj filozofiji ZLOČIN ZASTARJEVA? Neće da može...
Ako je jedna cigla neke njemačke kuće ukradena, sin ili praunuk koji u njoj živi moraće da objasni neke stvari.
Nemačka je loš primer.Oni su praktikovali rušenje kuća bez odvoženja građevinskog materijala.
nije sad važno koju od 10-15 kolonijalnih sila uzmemo kao primjer, činjenica je da svuda ima kradenih cigli, i ne može to da se krije iza neke kvazifilozofije Džona Loka po kojoj nova generacija, odnosno sinovi, nemaju obavezu da vraćaju dug koji ima stalno stoji pod nogama. Dakle, cigle nisu vaše i tačka.
Afrika nije gladovala prije nego što su došli Evropljani, tek to ne računamo, da su napravili kolonije u kojima je inače živio mali broj ljudi jer klima nije mogla da proizvede dovoljno hrane, Englezima i ostalima je trebala radna snaga pa su uvozili hranu i podsticali visok natalitet da bi povećali broj robova, i onda kada su se povukli ostavili su stanovništvo koje ne može na toj zemlji da se izdržava.
Dakle, za sve ove gladne u Africi dobro se zna ko je krivac, Evropljani čak licemjerno govore da imaju višak hrane koji bi dali Africi, ali da afričke zemlje plate troškove transporta, što ove naravno ne mogu jer nemaju čime da plate.
Tako da Lomljavino, dosta više tih kvaziliberalnih priča, nešto je mnogo trulo u EU i to je vrlo jasno.
Ok Mac, a koliko je samo nepreciznih izjava bilo s druge strane pa ništa.
ALBEDO ne sporim ja to, ali današnje generacije su nešto sasvim drugo.
Kakvu oni imaju krivicu?
Ja sam na ovu temu jako osetljiv jer imam jednog čukundedu, koji je ubio čoveka i bio na robiji dugo.
Ja s tim nemam veze.
- Inače Srbija nije bila ničija kolonija. Dug koji imamo uzeli smo za vreme Tita i trošili smo sami. Ko ti može biti kriv za tvoj soptveni dug?
KOLONIJE
Za to su jednostavno krive sve belačke nacije.
Nema nikog ko je nevin.
Rusija je pokorila sve sibirske narode, a Britanija s obzirom da je ostrvo morala je da osvaja preko mora.
U to vreme to je bilo legitimno i bilo je samo reč o tome ko će više da osvoji.
Belgija uzela Kongo, Francuska Obalu Slonovače, Englezi Ganu, Portugalci Angolu...
Holanđani celu Indoneziju.
U to vreme je to tako.
Kao što će se ljudi budućnosti možda čuditi što mi jedemo životinjsko meso i držimo ih u malim kavezima i mučimo ih.
U pećinskom dobu i kanibalizam je bio legitiman.
U antici bilo je legitimno da zarobiš u ratu neprijatelja i pretvoriš ga u kućnog roba, kome možeš da radiš šta god hoćeš.
Do pre nekoliko vekova mogao si da uvatiš bilo koju ženu, koja nema oca i braću da je štite i da je siluješ bez problema.
U pećinskom dobu toljaga ženi na glavu, pa drugi put neće da se buni.
Koncept ljudskih prava je nešto sasvim NOVO i kad je već tako to treba podržati,
ali ne može se to primeniti retroaktivno, a naročito ne može za potomke nekih predaka.
Čak i zemlje, koje u prošlosti nisu imale kolonije, nisu bile ništa bolje već jednostavno nisu mogle jer su bile premale.
Kao da Srbija ne bi imala kolonije da može. Da se nalazimo tamo gde i Portugal i mi bi smo možda imali Brazil.
AFRIKA:
Što se Afrike tiče nemojte zaboraviti da je ona bila skoro potpuno prazna van Nila, roga Afrike i tropskih krajeva.
Veliki porast ljudi oni beleže tek danas zahvaljujući natalitetu.
Južnoafrička Republika je bila skoro potpuno pusta pre dolaska Evropljana.
I crnci, koji žive tamo su doseljenici iz nizijskih i tropskih predela Afrike.
Ova zemlja gotovo da nije ništa više nije crnačka nego belačka.
Njen sused Zimbabve imao je 1,3 miliona ljudi na ogrom,noj teritoriji.
Belci su uzeli jedan deo, ali to se kasnije preprodavalo.
Ne zanima nas odakle belac u nekom delu Afrike jer ima i crnaca u Evropi.
Umesto istorije valjda se gleda PRAVO I USTAV.
Crnac u Nemačkoj ili Francuskoj kad kupi legalno kuću i imanje to je njegovo.
Nema otimanja. On je građanin te zemlje i gotovo.
U Zimbabveu se dešava da belci imaju sve moguće papire.
Kupio nekome deda kuću i njivu.
Dođe gomila, podržana od strane vladajuće partije Mugabea.
Istera belce iz kuće i kaže: I ovo je deda nekog belca (od koga je tvoj deda) kupio
kuću uzeo tek tako...
I nema nikakvih prava.
A pre belaca nit su postojale kuće, nit su postojale zgrade, nit je postojala industrija, nit je narod imao pismo... Niti su znali kako se sadi voće i povrće.
Nema nikakve PRAVNE LOGIKE da se krše prava belaca iz 18.generacije, koja poseduje te papire, ali to se dešava.
I onda mi bez poređenja predaka samo reci da li je bolja sadašnja generacija Evropljana, koja crncima daje jednaka prava ili sadašnja generacija Zimbabveanaca, koja ne bi da poštuje ni zakon ni prava ni išta.
I navedi mi šta je to Evropljanin mogao da opljačka od Afrikanca, kad Afrikanci pre dolaska Evropljana nisu imali ništa. Ni gradove ni industriju.
Bocvana i Namibija imale su dijamante i to jeste pljačka,
a ostali?
Alžir je imao naftu, ali nemoj mi reći da Francuzima stoji ta nafta u rezervi 40- godina? To je potrošni materijal.
Nit su švapske kuće vaše.
Meni je žao tih banatskih Nemaca, koji su proterani, ali nemoguće je da se isteraju novi doseljenici u tim kućama.
U tom slučaju nastradale bi te nove sirote generacije Srba, koje nisu krive što im je pradeda ušao u napušteno imanje naroda, koji je proteran.
Šta bismo radili sa 100 000 novih Srba bez kuća, ako bi sve to moralo Nemcima da se vrati?
Ja sam za to da svaka generacija odgovara za sebe.
Ne možeš praunuka kazniti za greh pradede.
Ako praunuk - bilo da je Srbin iz Banata ili belac iz Zimbabvea ima dokument, koji kaže da je ta kuća njegova, onda je njegova.
A država POTOMCIMA proteranih Nemaca može da da obeštećenje, ali u nekom drugom vidu.
Kako da ne.Ova država je i poznata po tome da je vratila sve opljačkano.Možda,ali samo bradonjama iz džipova.
U svakom slučaju bilo bi zanimljivo čuti odgovor Albeda na ovu temu.
Ako se zalaže za to da neke kolonijalne sile vrate nešto bivšim kolonijama, kojima su svojevremeno učinile nešto nažao, da li onda i Srbija treba da vrati sva imanja, koja ima podunavskim Nemcima, koji su proterani odavde?
Ovde bi postojao i razlog više jer zu ,,bele zemlje'' ipak kasnije poprimale milione ljudi iz bivših kolonija, dok Srbija podunavskim Nemcima nije nikad ništa vratila.
Jugoslavija i Nemačka su sklopile dil. Nemci ne daju pare za logoraše, Jugoslavija ne daje pare za folksdojčere, niti se Nemci vraćaju nazad.
Dakle isto ko i Francuzi sa svojim bivšim kolonistima.
Primamo more Arapa, crnaca i Haićana, dajemo im život i radna mesta, ali nema otplaćivanja starih dugova.
kao što reče mac...
Lomljavino, imaš li ti, kako da to nazovem, drugi sprat u glavi?
Ono tipa Vojvodina nije isto što i Etiopija, pa imamo dva nivoa analize?
Jesu li Srbi napali Vojvodinu i okupirali je, ili su AustroUgari napali Srbiju i okupirali je pa ispušili?
Njemci su izgubili svoja imanja kada? Pa zna se kada, opet ih niko nije zvao ali oni vole tako da dođu, što reče Andrić ako ih ugostiš kako treba, kao domaćin što se kaže, oni se ne zahvaljuju nego smatraju da im to kao superiornoj rasi i sljeduje.
Jebiga, nacizam je nacizam, nije drang nach osten srpska spoljnopolitička deviza.
Došli su nepozvani i u Srbiju i u Zimbabve. Srbija naplatila, Zimbabve nije.
A to koliko su Francuzi divni prema svojim Arapima vidimo po paljenju automobila i neredima u Parizu prije par godina.
Quote from: Lomljavina on 02-09-2010, 18:44:13
Kakve veze ima današnji stanovnik SAD sa indijanskim ratovima od pre više vekova, naročito ako znamo da više pola građana SAD ima pretke, koji su se naselili u SAD uveliko psole tog vremena.
U toku najvećih istrebljenja indijanaca tamo je bilo 10 miliona belaca,
a sad SAD ima 310 miliona. Ko je tamo uopšte potomak tih generacija kauboja kad većina ima pretke, koji su došli kasnije, a i da je potomak, šta s tim?
Ма, хајде! Од последњих крљања са Апачима и Сијуксима није прошло ни 150 година, а камоли неколико векова...и какав је то податак о 10 милиона белаца у време највећег покоља Индијанаца? Које је то време? Током 19. века непрестано су стизали и стизали нови досељеници, ко их може избројати? Могло би се поставити и питање чему то све крљање када сад огромна већина становништва америке живи на обалама и југу, а средњи запад је и даље слабо насељен? но све је ово мање-више небитно у овим економским причама...
Bojim se da će zatezne kamate na 'naplaćeno' dolaziti, sve u ratama, još podosta godina.
ma neka je i bilo 10 miliona bijelaca, tih deset miliona su danas onih 1% prljavo bogatih ljudi u SAD-u. Tih 1% posjeduju oko 40-50% sveukupnog bogatstva u SAD.
20% posjeduje 80% bogatstva a 80% stanovništva je raspodjelilo preostalih 20%.
Tako da ne brine Lomljavina za tih 10 miliona ubica, od njih i treba da se naplati.
Quote from: Albedo 0 on 02-09-2010, 21:53:35
kao što reče mac...
Lomljavino, imaš li ti, kako da to nazovem, drugi sprat u glavi?
Ono tipa Vojvodina nije isto što i Etiopija, pa imamo dva nivoa analize?
Jesu li Srbi napali Vojvodinu i okupirali je, ili su AustroUgari napali Srbiju i okupirali je pa ispušili?
Njemci su izgubili svoja imanja kada? Pa zna se kada, opet ih niko nije zvao ali oni vole tako da dođu, što reče Andrić ako ih ugostiš kako treba, kao domaćin što se kaže, oni se ne zahvaljuju nego smatraju da im to kao superiornoj rasi i sljeduje.
Jebiga, nacizam je nacizam, nije drang nach osten srpska spoljnopolitička deviza.
Došli su nepozvani i u Srbiju i u Zimbabve. Srbija naplatila, Zimbabve nije.
A to koliko su Francuzi divni prema svojim Arapima vidimo po paljenju automobila i neredima u Parizu prije par godina.
Albedo budi pristojan!
Odbijaš da odgovoriš na konkretno pitanje.
- Etiopija nikad nije bila ničija kolonija osim jednog malog severnog dela, koji je bio pod Italijanima.
Osim toga pokazuješ i neznanje, koje verovatno i drugi uviđaju, ali pošto su protiv moje, a ne protiv tvoje pozicije ne reaguju.
Čekaj bre, ko je to Nemce pozivao i ugošćavao?
Pa teritorija na kojoj su živeli bila je Austro-Ugarska država, a oni kao Austrijanci (iliti Nemci, ak ose tako osećaju) državotvoran narod?
Nije to bila Srbija nikad (pre 1918. godine) pa da ih Srbi pozovu da se nasele, pa im posle ukažu gostoprimstvo.
Vojvodina nikad nije bila srpska pre 1918.
Srbija je iskoristila i ćapila tu teritoriju u momentu kad se Austro-Ugarska raspala, a sama Mađarska bila jako slaba.
To isto su Mađarima uradili i Rumuni sa Erdeljom.
Nije fer da polemišemo tako što ćemo nekima zameriti jedno isto, a sopstvenom narodu ništa ne zamerati. Ni uzimanje teritorija, ni osvajačke ratove... Ni šta...
Bez OBJEKTIVNOSTI polemika nema smisla.
uzgred Albedo otvaraš 100 tema.
Sad si otvorio i temu da mali broj Amera drži Ameriku.
Pa ok, ali i u Rusiji jako mali broj Rusa drži većinu bogatstva,
i u Srbiji mali broj Srba drži većinu bogatstva.
U Kini je na pomolu najveće raslojavanje.
Šta ćemo s tim?
Savatajp evo linka porasta stanovnika u SAD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_the_United_States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_the_United_States)
1830. Amerika je imala samo 12 miliona ljudi
1850= 23 miliona,
a 1860 = 31 milion.
Danas SAD ima 310 miliona.
Najveći broj Amerikanaca doselio se u 20.veku jer je jedino tad USA bila zemlja, koja obećava.
Uzmi prosečnog Amerikanca i pitaj ga kad su mu preci došli. Većini je upravo u novom veku. Od četvoro deda i baba, bar troje su potomci onih, koji su došli kasnije.
A čak i da je većina potomaka onih kauboja, koji su počinili genocid, šta s njima?
Treba li da nose krivicu za 6 kolena unazad?
ne trebaju da nose krivicu, trebaju da vrate pare. Ne znam šta je tu toliko komplikovano da ti ne možeš da shvatiš. Ako je nešto ukradeno treba i da se vrati, kao npr mnoge grčke statue koje stoje u engleskim ili francuskim muzejima, da ne pričam o egipatskim statuama koje zagledaju građani Londona (niđe veze), a koje su ukradene iz Egipta, plain and simple.
To nisu neke spiritualne stvari da tamo neko ''osjeća'' krivicu, hic statua, hic vraćaj!
Venecijanski konji - ukradeni iz Carigrada. Vraćaj.
Zlatni krst u tamonekom njemačkom amanastiru - ukraden iz Carigrada. Vraćaj.
Šta ima tu toliko komplikovano? Vrlo opipljive stvari.
Pričaš kao da je Mađarska tetošila Srbe od 1916. do 1918.
da ne govorimo i ranije
U BiH je sto hiljada ljudi bilo u radnim logorima, Mađari su dali odriješene ruke Stranci prava, budućem stožeru Ante Pavelića, pa su ne samo trpali ljude u logore (iz kojih se 15 hiljada nije vratilo), već su palili srpske škole i sve ostalo što ima veze sa Srbima u BiH.
Izgubiš rat, e onda dođe red da se plate računi. I izgubili su suverenitet nad Vojvodinom, nisu tada uzeta imanja Njemaca već nakon Drugog svjetskog rata, dakle još jednog genocida. Neki od vojvođanskih Njemaca su podržavali Hitlerov režim a neki nisu, ali šta im ja tu mogu, nisam ja počeo rat.
I jebala te Etiopija, da li je bila nečija kolonija ili ne, ne može se nijedna afrička zemlja porediti sa Vojvodinom.
Dakle, stvar je sasvim objektivna, niko ih nije tjerao da komadaju Srbiju DVA PUTA U XX vijeku, a možda i tri ako računaš devedesete, i ne znam što bi se neko čudio što je dobio po zubima, ako se Srbi opamete, što se sudeći po tebi vrlo teško može dogoditi, dobiće ponovo po zubima.
Quote from: Lomljavina on 02-09-2010, 22:30:29
Savatajp evo linka porasta stanovnika u SAD.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_the_United_States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_the_United_States)
1830. Amerika je imala samo 12 miliona ljudi
1850= 23 miliona,
a 1860 = 31 milion.
Danas SAD ima 310 miliona.
Najveći broj Amerikanaca doselio se u 20.veku jer je jedino tad USA bila zemlja, koja obećava.
добро, бре, то је опште познато...мој циљ је био у томе да се су Индијанце скењали ипак већином у 19. веку, а не неколико векова уназад(мада је то био постепен процес, паралелан са померањем границе на запад), као и да је у то време било више од 10 милиона људи, и то је све! Савајат Четири Ока Ерп је рекао! :)
Ok, ok. Slažem se za statue.
No daj. Pa statue su najmanji problem.
I da se proda jedna vredna statua, od tih para 10 ljudi mogu da jedu 365 dana i to je sve.
To je novčano premalo.
Njihova vrednost je kulturne prirode. Ne može zemlja da osiromaši ili se obogati zahvaljujući statuama.
Mogu da se složim da su Mađari bili jako loši, ali čekaj, pa Ante Pavelić se pojavio kasnije.
Prvo su Mađari ostali bez svojih rubnih područja, koja su pripala Srbiji, Rumuniji, Slovačkoj i nešto malo Ukrajini pa tek onda nastaje fašizam.
No recimo da se ti i ja ovde potpuno i složimo, da li vidiš paralelu između mađarske sudbine u Vojvodini i srpske sudbine na Kosovu?
Ja je vidim.
Poraženma Mađarska izgubila teritorije,
poražena Srbija takođe izgubila teritorije.
Inače ja ne vidim da je Srbija ikad i igde komadana osim u slučaju nezavisnosti Kosova.
Srbija nikad nije imala Vojvodinu, sa
Izgubili tamo Mađari, a mi se povukli s našeg juga.
Evo kako je izgledala Kneževina Srbija.
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F2%2F26%2FPrincipality_of_Serbia_in_1878_EN.png&hash=c586529387c657143e959f03174b4ed36ce25d0d)
Bila je bez Vojvodine, bez Kosova i bez Sandžaka.
Danas ona ima i Vojvodinu i Sandžak.
Kosovo nema, ali to nije krivica moje i tvoje generacije.
Najveću krivicu nosi režim Josipa Broza Tita, koji je dopuštao Albancima da se naseljavaju u ogromnom broju.
Osim Tita krivicu snose i Srbi, koji su odatle žudeli za životom u Beogradu i prodavali svoja imanja, a deo krivice snose i Milošević i Šešelj jer su nasilno krenuli da proteruju Albance, čime smo izgubili ugled u svetu i pravo da održimo suverenitet.
Quote from: Lomljavina on 02-09-2010, 23:32:54
Ok, ok. Slažem se za statue.
No daj. Pa statue su najmanji problem.
I da se proda jedna vredna statua, od tih para 10 ljudi mogu da jedu 365 dana i to je sve.
To je novčano premalo.
Njihova vrednost je kulturne prirode. Ne može zemlja da osiromaši ili se obogati zahvaljujući statuama.
ovo je možda i najgluplja izjava koju sam ikada čuo.
ne moraš da je ponavljaš 4 puta, glupa je i ovako jednom
Srbija se upravo i bori za Kosovo da ne bi morala posle da se bori za Vojvodinu i Sandžak. Zadržimo se na Američkoj propasti, postoje druge teme za Kososvo.
Jeste,evo imaju novu mastnu mrlju.Kad je neko alav na naftu...
Томас Фридман: Америчку спољну политику мења недостатак пара
среда, 08. септембар 2010.
Током последњих година често сам својим пријатељима Евопљанима говорио отприлике ово: вама се, изгледа, не свиђа што је Америка прејака? А шта мислите да би се десило да је она преслаба? У геополитичком театру европског региона управо се одвија такав спектакл.
Да, Америка је превалила тај пут: главни победник у Другом светском рату (топови и кајмак сваком), једна од две суперсиле конфронтиране у хладном рату, незамењива држава која је победила у том рату – данас је ,,штедљива суперсила". Навикавајте се. Амерички пацифисти више немају разлога за секирацију због ,,ратова по избору". Готово је, ми сада немамо пара ни Гренаду да нападнемо.
Од самог почетка Велике рецесије 2008. године било је јасно да се у Америци суштина лидерства мења, било да је реч о политичком или корпоративном. У већем делу епохе после Другог светског рата опстајати као лидер у целиније значило - давати. Данас, а и у наредних десет година, у Америци бити лидер значиће – узимати.
Наравно, ни на који начин није могуће да амерички лидери, принуђени да узимају од сопствених бирача, не покушају уштедети на спољној политици и ратовима. Спољна и одбрамбена политика су закаснели индикатор. На многим стварима почиње се и унапред штедети. Министар одбране Роберт Гејтс већ износи упозорења. А штедљива суперсила Америка ће – то је нови квалитет – безусловно изазвати ефекат заразе широм света.
,,Штедљива суперсила, или светско лидерство Америке у епохи помањкања пара", то је у ствари наслов веома савремене књиге коју је написао мој учитељ и пријатељ Мајкл Манделбаум, стручњак за питања спољне политике из института Џона Хопкинса. Манделбаум пише: ,,У 2008. години све врсте државних пензија и олакшица у здравству (укључујући Medicaid) чинило је четири одсто ПДП Америке". Уколико се задрже садашње тенденције (а поколење послератне тзв. бејби-бум генерације ускоро ће почети добијати средства по програму Social Security и Medicare), до 2050. године ,,у те ће сврхе одлазити читавих 18 одсто укупног БДП Америке".
Ако се то сабере са свим трошковима за ,,самооткуп" из рецесије, онда ће то ,,на фундаменталан начин променити друштвени живот у САД, па према томе и спољну политику земље". У последњих седам деценија, према мишљењу Манделбаума, и на спољном и на унутрашњем фронту најкарактеристичнија реч била је реч ,,више". ,,Детерминишућа чињеница спољне политике у другој деценији 21. века и даље ће у будућности бити реч ,,мање", пише он даље.
Једина суперсила у свету слаби, притиснута дуговима (унутрашњим и спољним), а то ће осетити сви. Како? Тешко је рећи. Али знам само да је уникатна и значајна особеност спољне политике САД у последњем столећу било то до које су мере били потребни не само нама него и многим другима америчке дипломате и америчка флота, авијација и армија (од отворених мора до отворене трговине, од сузбијања комунизма до борбе против тероризма). Сила САД била је главни фактор светске стабилности и гарант мирног управљања у последњих седамдесет година. Та наша улога неће нестати, али ће се свакако смањити.
Велике државе и раније су одлазиле ,,у пензију". То се, на пример, догодило са Великом Британијом. Али, како наглашава Манделбаум, ,,када је Велика Британија престала да излази на крај са управљањем светом, САД су заузеле њено место. Ни једна земља није спремна да заузме место САД, тако да ће губици са аспекта општег мира и просперитета због одласка Америке потенцијално бити већи од оних који су настали после одласка Велике Британије".
Европљани јесу богати, али су слабашни. Кина је богата као држава, али, рачунајући по глави становника, гола је као миш, а то значи да ће се морати сконцентрисати на унутрашњи и регионални развој. Опијена нафтом, Русија може да се прси, али не и да искаже праву снагу.
,,Према томе, свет ће постати несређенији и опаснији", каже Манделбаум.
На који начин амортизовати ту тенденцију? Малделбаум наводи три начина: Прво, ми се морамо вратити на пут стабилног економског развоја и реиндустријализације, и да, без обзира на све жртве, улажемо максимум напора и пристајемо на све политичке компромисе који за то буду потребни. Друго, треба бити начисто шта су приоритети. Са аспекта спољне политике ми смо целих сто година имали и оно што нам је било од животне важности и оно што смо једноставно желели. На пример, претпостављам да бисмо победили у Авганистану да смо на располагању имали бесконачну резерву људи и пара. Али, поставља се питање: да ли је то оно што нам је од животног значаја? Наравно, то јесте пожељно, али има ли животне потребе за тим? Најзад, ми би требало да ојачамо свој буџет и ослабимо буџет наших непријатеља, а најбољи начин да се то учини јесте да се драстично повећа порез на бензин".
Америка мора да усвоји једну тешку поуку: у краткорочном периоду може се обогатити захваљујући позајмљеним средствима, али се тим средствима неће омогућити дугорочна геополитичка моћ. За то је потребан функционишући и растући економски мотор. А краткорочни период се за нас, у сваком случају, одавно завршио. Била су времена када озбиљна размишљања о спољној политици САД нису захтевала озбиљна размишљања о економској политици. То време је прошло.
Према томе, код нас више неће бити кочоперних ,,јастребова". Или ће их бити, али такве нико неће узимати за озбиљно.
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Lomljavina je baš zajebao ovaj topik s ovom slikom. Šta radi ovaj Zakk? Šta radi uprava???
Američki apelacioni sud smatra da tužbe za mučenje nisu dovoljan razlog za reagovanje, pogotovo što postoji opasnost da se otkriju nacionalne tajne:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_on_bi_ge/us_boeing_cia_lawsuit (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100909/ap_on_bi_ge/us_boeing_cia_lawsuit)
QuoteSAN FRANCISCO – A sharply divided federal appeals court on Wednesday threw out a lawsuit challenging a controversial post-Sept. 11 CIA program that flew terrorism suspects to secret prisons.
The complaint was filed by five terrorism suspects who were arrested shortly after 9/11 and say they were flown by a Boeing Co. subsidiary to prisons around the world where they were tortured. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals cited national security risks when it dismissed the men's case in a 6-5 ruling Wednesday.
The case could have broad repercussions on the national security debate as it makes its way toward the Supreme Court, and it casts a spotlight on the controversial "extraordinary rendition" program the Bush administration used after 9/11.
The Obama administration subsequently said it would continue to send foreign detainees to other countries for questioning, but rarely — and only if U.S. officials are confident the prisoners will not be tortured.
The appeals court reinforced the broad powers of the president to invoke the so-called "state secrets privilege" to stop lawsuits involving national security almost as soon as they are filed.
"The attorney general adopted a new policy last year to ensure the state secrets privilege is only used in cases where it is essential to protect national security, and we are pleased that the court recognized that the policy was used appropriately in this case," Justice Department spokesman Matthew Miller said.
President George W. Bush invoked the privilege at least 39 times during his administration, the most of any president in history, according to according to research by University of Texas, El Paso, political science professor William Weaver. Critics of the practice had hoped President Barack Obama would curtail its use and were disappointed when his administration continued defending the lawsuit after Bush left office.
The terror suspects sued Boeing subsidiary Jeppesen Dataplan in 2007, alleging that the extraordinary rendition program amounted to illegal "forced disappearances." They alleged that the San Jose-based subsidiary conspired with the CIA to operate the program.
A trial court judge quickly dismissed the lawsuit after the Bush administration took over defense of the case from Chicago-based Boeing and invoked the state secrets privilege, demanding a halt to the litigation over concern that top secret intelligence would be divulged.
A three-judge panel of the appeals court reinstated the lawsuit in 2009, but the full court overturned that ruling Wednesday.
"We have thoroughly and critically reviewed the government's public and classified declarations and are convinced that at least some of the matters it seeks to protect from disclosure in this litigation are valid state secrets," Judge Raymond Fisher wrote for the majority. "The government's classified disclosures to the court are persuasive that compelled or inadvertent disclosure of such information in the course of litigation would seriously harm legitimate national security interests."
Judge Michael Daly Hawkins wrote for the five dissenting judges, who said the lawsuit was dismissed too quickly and that the men should be allowed to use publicly disclosed evidence to prove their case.
"They are not even allowed to attempt to prove their case by the use of nonsecret evidence in their own hands or in the hands of third parties," Hawkins wrote.
Ben Wizner, the American Civil Liberties Union lawyer who represents the five men, said he will ask the U.S. Supreme Court to take the case.
"If this decision stands," Wizner said, "the United States will have closed its courts to torture victims while extending complete immunity to its torturers."
The Bush administration was widely criticized for its practice of extraordinary rendition — whereby the CIA transfers suspects overseas for interrogation. Human rights advocates said renditions were the agency's way to outsource torture of prisoners to countries where it is permitted practice.
Three of the five plaintiffs have been released from prison, Wizner said.
Hvala Zakku na intervenciji!!!
Ajmo sad malo o Americi da vidimo kako tretiraju sopstvena ljucka prava.
Osam stvari koje poslodavac ne sme da vas pita tokom intervjua, jer mu to brani zakon: (http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/110601/8-things-employers-arent-allowed-to-ask-you)
QuoteThe rough economy has made many people desperate for a job. In their eagerness for gainful employment, many people may overlook improper interview questions. Depending on how they are asked, questions about personal topics such as marital status, race and health are more than just poor manners - they are illegal under federal and some state and local laws. These types of questions can be used to discriminate against applicants, and it is your right not to answer them. Here are eight questions your employer cannot ask you.
1. How old are you?
The Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967 (ADEA), protects individuals who are 40 or older from being discriminated against in the workplace in favor of younger employees. There is no federal protection in place to protect workers younger than 40 from age discrimination. To determine if you are legally eligible to perform a job, employers are allowed to ask if you are over the age of 18.
2. Are you married?
Questions about marital status are prohibited. Employers might be tempted to ask this question to find out if your relationship could have a negative impact on your work. For example, if you are married you might be more likely to leave the company if your spouse gets a job transferred to a different city. Even a question as seemingly innocent as "Do you wish to be addressed as Mrs., Miss, or Ms.?" is not allowed.
3. Are you a U.S. citizen?
Citizenship and immigration status cannot be used against a potential employee during the hiring process according to The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA). Employers must wait until after a job offer had been extended to require a worker to complete the Employment Eligibility Verification (I-9) Form and submit documentation that proves identity and employment authorization. It is lawful for an employer to ask an interviewee if they are authorized to work in the US.
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4. Do you have any disabilities?
This question might seem necessary to determine if a job applicant can perform the required duties, but it is illegal to ask under the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990. Employers cannot discount anyone from a job because of a physical or mental disability. In fact, the law requires that they accommodate disabilities unless they can prove it would cause significant difficulty or expense to do so. Employers also cannot ask you if you have had any past illnesses or operations.
5. Do you take drugs, smoke or drink?
Concerns about drug, alcohol or nicotine addictions are valid as they can impact an employee's quality of work and the rates of a company's health insurance coverage. However, an employer might find themselves in legal trouble if they don't frame questions about these potential problems in a careful manner. They are allowed to ask if you have ever been disciplined for violating company policies about the use of alcohol and tobacco products. They can also ask directly if you use illegal drugs, but an employer can't inquire about your use of prescription medications.
6. What religion do you practice?
Inquires about religious beliefs are a sensitive issue. An interviewer might be curious for scheduling reasons such as holidays that an employee might need off, or if the candidate will be unavailable to work on weekends because of religious obligations. It is illegal to intentionally discriminate against an employee or harass them based on their religious beliefs. Employers are required to accommodate an employee's religious beliefs or practices in regards to things such as dress and grooming policy and flexible scheduling.
7. What is your race?
There is no situation in which questions about an employee's race or skin color should be use to determine their eligibility for a job. This protection is granted under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that prohibits employment discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex or national origin. Employers are permitted to ask an employee to reveal their race on a voluntary basis for affirmative action purposes.
8. Are you pregnant?
Questions about family status tend to affect women the most, but they can also pertain to men in certain situations. Employers might have concerns about an employee taking time off work for pregnancy leave or not having child care arrangements during work hours. The Pregnancy Discrimination Act states that an employer cannot refuse to hire a pregnant woman because of her pregnancy, because of a pregnancy-related condition, or because of the prejudices of co-workers, clients or customers.
It is, however, lawful for employers to ease their nerves about an employee's availability or commitment to a position by asking about long-term career goals or the ability for an employee to work overtime and travel.
The Bottom Line
It is important to know your rights as an employee. Unlawful questions are not acceptable on applications, during the interview process or in the workplace. Although improper questions by employers might be simple mistakes, they could also be intentional cases of discrimination that should be reported.
Prilično kul. Suviše sam lenj da pročitam naše antidiskriminacijske akte da vidim kako bi ovo kod nas izgledalo.
A, evo dalje, američka armija će izgleda morati da se otrese kontroverznog (i debilnog) Don't ask, don't tell pravila.
Judge: Military's ban on gays is unconstitutional (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gays_in_military)
QuoteLOS ANGELES – A federal judge on Thursday declared the U.S. military's ban on openly gay service members unconstitutional and said she will issue an order to stop the government from enforcing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy nationwide.
U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips said the ban violates the First and Fifth Amendment rights of gays and lesbians.
The "don't ask, don't tell" policy prohibits the military from asking about the sexual orientation of service members. Under the 1993 policy, service men and women who acknowledge being gay or are discovered engaging in homosexual activity, even in the privacy of their own homes off base, are subject to discharge.
In her ruling, Phillips said the policy doesn't help military readiness and instead has a "direct and deleterious effect" on the armed services by hurting recruiting during wartime and requiring the discharge of service members with critical skills and training.
The Log Cabin Republicans, a 19,000-member group that includes current and former military members, filed a lawsuit in 2004 seeking an injunction to stop the ban's enforcement. Phillips will draft the injunction with input from the group within a week, and the federal government will have a week to respond.
The U.S. Department of Justice can file an appeal but there was no immediate word of that. After-hours e-mails and calls requesting comment from government attorney Paul G. Freeborne and from the Pentagon were not immediately returned Thursday evening.
Government lawyers said the judge lacked the authority to issue a nationwide injunction.
The lawsuit was the biggest legal test of the law in recent years and came amid promises by President Barack Obama that he will work to repeal the policy.
The ruling is the second major court decision this summer to come from a California judge and hand a major victory to gay rights advocates.
In August, U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker overturned Proposition 8, the ballot proposition that banned gay marriage in California. His ruling is on hold pending appeal.
"This decision will change the lives of many individuals who only wanted to serve their country bravely," said the group's attorney, Dan Woods.
The Log Cabin Republicans said more than 13,500 service members have been fired since 1994.
Woods argued during the nonjury trial that the policy violates gay military members' rights to free speech, open association and right to due process as guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment.
He said the ban damages the military by forcing it to reject talented people as the country struggles to find recruits in the midst of a war. Lawyers also submitted remarks by Obama stating "don't ask, don't tell" weakens national security.
Woods used Obama's remarks and those of top military commanders as evidence that the policy should be overturned.
The lawsuit is unique because it wasn't based on one individual's complaint about a discharge. Instead it made a broad, sweeping attack on the policy.
The case moved forward slowly at first because it was assigned to a judge who had health problems and later retired, Woods said. In late 2008, it was reassigned to Phillips and went to trial in July.
Freeborne had argued the policy debate was political and that the issue should be decided by Congress rather than in court.
In his closing arguments he said the plaintiffs were trying to force a federal court to overstep its bounds and halt the policy as it is being debated by federal lawmakers.
The U.S. House voted in May to repeal the policy, and the Senate is expected to address the issue this year.
That makes the trial unnecessary, and the testimony and documentary evidence presented by the Log Cabin Republicans irrelevant, Freeborne said.
"We do not believe the court has the authority to issue a nationwide injunction," he said.
Government attorneys presented only the policy's legislative history in their defense and no witnesses or other evidence.
Six military officers who were discharged under the policy testified during the trial. A decorated Air Force officer testified that he was let go after his peers snooped through his personal e-mail in Iraq.
The officers who participated in the trial were "reacting emotionally because they're so proud that they were able to play a part in making this happen," Woods said after the ruling.
"It'll be an interesting decision for our president to decide whether to appeal this case. He's said that 'don't ask, don't tell' weakens national security, and now it's been declared unconstitutional," he said. "If he does appeal, we're going to fight like heck."
Nije bitno šta kod nas poslodavac ne sme da pita, bitno je što kandidat ne sme ništa da pita. (Mada, ne treba verovati ni postovima na engleskom.)
Ne treba, ne treba. Ali jeste interesantno.
Legislativa im je solidna, ali su im gasne instalacije kurac:
1 dead, 53 homes destroyed in California fire (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_large_explosion)
QuoteSAN BRUNO, Calif. – Firefighters poured water on flaming and smoldering wreckage early Friday after a massive explosion sent blazes roaring through a neighborhood in the hills south of San Francisco, killing at least one person, destroying more than 50 homes and damaging dozens of others.
Thursday night's explosion shot a fireball more than 1,000 feet in the air and sent frightened residents fleeing for safety and rushing to get belongings out of burning homes, witnesses said.
Utility officials said a gas line ruptured in the vicinity of the blast, which left a giant crater and sent flames tearing across several suburban blocks in San Bruno just after 6 p.m.
At least one person was confirmed dead, San Bruno Fire Chief Dennis Haag said. There was no word on injuries.
"It's going to take us until at least until tomorrow into the afternoon to do a full search," Haag said late Thursday.
Resident Connie Bushman returned home to find her block was on fire. She said she ran into her house looking for her 80-year-old father but could not find him. A firefighter told her he had left, but she had not been able to track him down.
"I don't know where my father is, I don't know where my husband is, I don't know where to go," Bushman said.
After the initial blast, flames reached as high as 100 feet as the fire fueled itself on burning homes, leaving some in total ruins and reducing parked automobiles to burned out hulks. At least 120 homes also suffered serious damage.
The fire had spread to 10 acres and was 50 percent contained late Thursday, said Jay Allen, spokesman for the California Emergency Management Agency.
California Lieutenant Governor Abel Maldonado, acting governor while Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was in Asia on a trade mission, declared a state of emergency in San Mateo County.
The declaration frees up funds to help with firefighting costs.
"If it is ultimately determined that we were responsible for the cause of the incident, we will take accountability," Pacific Gas and Electric Co. said in an e-mailed statement Thursday evening.
But later Thursday the company's president, Christopher Johns, said he didn't know what sparked the explosion.
"I don't have any details about if there was any work going on, Johns told KTVU-TV. "That will be part of the investigation as we go forward."
Between 150 and 200 firefighters remained at the scene through the night, according to Haag. More than 100 people were being sheltered at nearby evacuation centers, but no estimate of the number of residents missing was available, he said.
San Bruno Fire Capt. Charlie Barringer said the neighborhood was engulfed by the time firefighters arrived, even though the fire station was only a few blocks away. He said the blast took out the entire water system, forcing firefighters to pump water from more than two miles away.
Haag said firefighters initially had trouble getting close enough to the ruptured gas line to shut it down because of the flames.
Victims suffering from serious burns began arriving at San Francisco Bay area hospitals shortly after the blast. An estimate of the number of injured wasn't immediately available. Hospitals reported receiving about 20 injured patients — several of whom were in critical condition — and they anticipated getting more.
Jane Porcelli, 62, said she lives on a hill above where the fire was centered. She said she thought she heard a plane overhead with a struggling engine.
"And then you heard this bang. And everything shook except the floor, so we knew it wasn't an earthquake," Porcelli said. "I feel helpless that I can't do anything. I just gotta sit by and watch."
Stephanie Mullen, Associated Press news editor for photos based in San Francisco, was attending children's soccer practice with her two children and husband at Crestmoor High School when she saw the blast at 6:14 p.m.
"First, it was a low deep roar and everybody looked up, and we all knew something big was happening," she said. "Then there was a huge explosion with a ball of fire that went up behind the high school several thousand feet into the sky.
"Everybody grabbed their children and ran and put their children in their cars," Mullen said. "It was very clear something awful had happened."
Several minutes later, Mullen was near the fire scene, about a half-mile away in a middle-class neighborhood of 1960s-era homes in hills overlooking San Francisco, the bay and the airport. She said she could feel the heat of the fire on her face although she was three or four blocks away from the blaze. It appeared the fireball was big enough to have engulfed at least several homes.
"I could see families in the backyards of the homes next to where the fire was, bundling their children and trying to get them out of the backyards," she recounted.
She said people in the neighborhood were yelling, "This is awful" and "My family is down there."
Judy and Frank Serrsseque were walking down a hill away from the flames with a makeshift wagon carrying important documents, medication and three cats.
Judy Serrsseque said she heard an explosion, saw that fire was headed toward their home and knew they had to leave. As they fled, they said they saw people burned and people struggling to get their things out of burning houses.
"We got everything together, and we just got out," Judy Serrsseque. "Mostly we're wondering if we have a house to go back to."
I šta kažu oni iz Crkve, pale sutra Kuran na 11.septembar ?
Biće zanimljivo.
Ne, odustali su.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100910/ap_on_re_us/quran_burning (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100910/ap_on_re_us/quran_burning)
QuoteGAINESVILLE, Fla. – As thousands of Afghans protested a tiny Florida church's plan to burn the Muslim holy book, the church's pastor said he won't follow through on the plan if he's able to meet Saturday with the organizers behind a mosque planned near ground zero in New York. In Afghanistan, at least 11 people were injured Friday in protests.
Police in the northern province of Badakhshan say several hundred demonstrators ran toward a NATO compound where four attackers and five police were injured in clashes. Protesters also burned an American flag at a mosque after Friday prayers.
In western Farah province, police said two people were injured in another protest.
Speaking to NBC's "Today" show, the Rev. Terry Jones said if he meets with the imam in New York, he won't burn the Quran. It wasn't clear if he meant the burning would be halted indefinitely or just for Saturday.
Imam Muhammad Musri, the president of the Islamic Society of Central Florida, told CBS' "The Early Show" he had a commitment for Jones and himself to meet in New York with the imam there.
Earlier, Jones and Musri had disagreed sharply on the terms of the agreement.
Jones said Thursday he would call off the planned burning of Qurans based on a deal negotiated with the president of the Islamic Society of Central Florida that the location of a mosque planned near ground zero in New York would be changed.
But Musri said he was clear on Thursday when he told Jones that he could only set up a meeting with planners of the New York City mosque, whose leader said he had spoken to neither the pastor nor Musri. Jones responded by opening the door, if only a crack, that he would go forward with his plan on Saturday.
"We are just really shocked," Jones said of Musri. "He clearly, clearly lied to us."
For U.S. political leaders and Muslims around the world who have been outraged by Jones' antics, the on-again, off-again threat bred even more angst and frustration.
Cleric Rusli Hasbi told 1,000 worshippers attending Friday morning prayers in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country, that whether or not he burns the Quran, Jones had already "hurt the heart of the Muslim world."
"If he'd gone through with it, it would have been tantamount to war," the cleric said in the coastal town of Lhokseumawe. "A war that would have rallied Muslims all over the world."
Muslims consider the book the sacred word of God and insist it be treated with the utmost respect.
In Afghanistan, where tens of thousands of U.S. troops are in harm's way, President Hamid Karzai said he heard Jones had perhaps abandoned his Quran-burning plan.
"The holy book is implanted in the hearts and minds of all the Muslims," Karzai said. "Humiliation of the holy book represents the humiliation of our people. I hope that this decision will be stopped and should never have been considered."
Jones announced earlier Thursday — with Musri at his side — that they had a bargain and that he would call off the Quran-burning. Later he accused Musri of lying and said the burning was only suspended, not canceled.
Musri, countered that Jones wasn't confused or misled and that "after we stepped out in front of the cameras, he stretched my words" about the agreement. The imam in charge of the New York Islamic center and mosque project also quickly denied any deal was made.
Musri said Jones had instead caved into the firestorm of criticism from around the world and that his announcement might have been a ploy to try to force Muslim leaders' hand on the Islamic center.
Jones said later that he expected Musri to keep his word and "the imam in New York to back up one of his own men." Musri said he still plans to go ahead with the meeting Saturday.
In New York, the Islamic center project leader, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, said in a statement that he was glad Jones had backed down but that he had spoken to neither the pastor nor Musri.
"We are not going to toy with our religion or any other. Nor are we going to barter," Rauf said. "We are here to extend our hands to build peace and harmony."
Opponents argue it is insensitive to families and memories of Sept. 11 victims to build a mosque so close to where Islamic extremists flew planes into the World Trade Center and killed nearly 2,800 people. Proponents say the project reflects religious freedom and diversity and that hatred of Muslims is fueling the opposition.
Moving the mosque is not why Jones canceled his threat, Musri said. Instead, he relented under the pressure from political and religious leaders of all faiths worldwide to halt what President Barack Obama called a "stunt." Musri said Jones told him the burning "would endanger the troops overseas, Americans traveling abroad and others around the world."
"That was the real motivation for calling it off," Musri said.
Jones had never invoked the mosque controversy as a reason for his planned protest at his Dove World Outreach Center. Instead, he cited his belief that the Quran is evil because it espouses something other than biblical truth and incites radical, violent behavior among Muslims.
Obama urged Jones to listen to "those better angels," saying that besides endangering lives, it would give Islamic terrorists a recruiting tool. Defense Secretary Robert Gates took the extraordinary step of calling Jones personally.
Jones' church, which has about 50 members, is independent of any denomination. It follows the Pentecostal tradition, which teaches that the Holy Spirit can manifest itself in the modern day.
News of the cancellation also was welcomed by Jones' neighbors in Gainesville, a city of 125,000 anchored by the sprawling University of Florida campus. At least two dozen Christian churches, Jewish temples and Muslim organizations in the city had mobilized to plan inclusive events, including Quran readings at services, as a counterpoint to Jones' protest.
Jones said at the news conference that he prayed about the decision and concluded that if the mosque was moved, it would be a sign from God to call off the Quran burning.
"We are, of course, now against any other group burning Qurans," Jones said. "We would right now ask no one to burn Qurans. We are absolutely strong on that. It is not the time to do it."
Despite Jones' words, in the Gaza Strip, Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh said to a crowd of tens of thousands of Muslim faithful that they had come "to respond to this criminal, this liar, this crazy priest who reflects a crazy Western attitude toward Islam and the Muslim nation."
"We came to say, the Quran is our constitution, we are committed to God and his holy book," he said to those holding the texts in their hands at a stadium in the northern town of Beit Lahiya. "God willing, should they try to carry out their crime against the Quran, God will tear their state apart and they will become God's lesson to anyone who tries to desecrate the holy book."
Part of the pressure exerted on Jones came from Gates who briefly spoke to the pastor before his first announcement to call it off. Gates expressed "his grave concern that going forward with this Quran burning would put the lives of our forces at risk, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan," said Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell.
Morrell said earlier that the decision to issue a personal appeal was not easy because it could provoke other extremists "who, all they want, is a call from so-and-so." Earlier, Jones had said if he was contacted by the White House that he might change his mind. After Gates' call to Jones, Morrell said the secretary's "fundamental baseline attitude about this is that if that phone call could save the life of one man or woman in uniform it was a call worth placing."
Ali ovo jeste zanimljiva tema za razmatranje. U prvom redu, naravno da ja smatram svakoga ko misli da se išta rešava paljenjem knjige pre svega budalom a onda i nevaspitankom, bez obzira da li je hrišćanski prozelita, nacionalsocijalista ili taliban. U drugom redu, naravno, teško mi je da ne pomislim da je ovo samo neki muljator koji koristi priliku da dođe na televiziju i tamo jede govna i uživa u pet minuta slave. Mislim, njegova crkva ima PEDESET sledbenika a svakome sa pola mozga je jasno da paljenje Kurana po posledicama nije ko kad biste zapalili Bibliju - ima dovoljno muslimana koji takve stvari shvataju vrlo ozbiljno i američke trupe i civilna lica u Avganistanu se sigurno ne bi lepo provodila tokom narednih dana... Dakle, ovaj baja je dobro znajući kakvo će sranje da napravi SVOJIMA krenuo da talasa iako je objektivno značajan koliko i dlake na sapunu koje ostaju posle kupanja. Nije to baš lepo.
Bogme,ima knjiga koje se ubiše za užgat.
Ima, ali demonstriramo nivo svoje mudrosti i zrelosti time što ih i pored toga ne diramo. :lol:
A i čime je to Kuran zaslužio da ga onaj protestant spaljuje? :?
Pa, ideja je sledeća: oni hoće baš tamo da naprave džamiju, iako su zamoljeni da to ne čine zbog osećanja svih onih kojima je neko poginuo jedanaestog septembra, ali eto, oni hoće i po zakonu imaju na to pravo, i onda i ovaj hoće da spali Kuran, iako bi to povredilo osećanja Muslimana, jer eto, nije zakonom zabranjeno.
Tako nekako.
Naravno, treba se i setiti da oni neće da naprave samo džamiju nego da se "tamo" pravi islamski omladinski i kulturni centar koji će imati i košarkaške terene, i biblioteke i još gomilu stvari pored te džamije, kao i da to "tamo" nije baš "tamo" nego generalno u istom delu grada gde je nekad bio WTC.
Да виде деца како се Амери уче памети.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 10-09-2010, 19:15:50
Naravno, treba se i setiti da oni neće da naprave samo džamiju nego da se "tamo" pravi islamski omladinski i kulturni centar koji će imati i košarkaške terene, i biblioteke i još gomilu stvari pored te džamije, kao i da to "tamo" nije baš "tamo" nego generalno u istom delu grada gde je nekad bio WTC.
Udaljeno je nekoliko blokova, što baš i nije malo, ako sam ja dobro shvatila.
samo nek se oni kolju...
Niko od klanja,bilo čijeg,profitirao nije,pa nećeš ni ti.
nemam ni namjeru da profitiram, bar ne materijalno.
A od klanja je naravno profitirala Amerika i to više puta. Od Prvog svjetskog rata pa na dalje.
Neka,uljuljkuj se i uživaj.
Quote from: wg on 10-09-2010, 22:01:26
Niko od klanja,bilo čijeg,profitirao nije,pa nećeš ni ti.
A industrija mesa Matijević?
Quote from: wg on 10-09-2010, 23:02:02
Neka,uljuljkuj se i uživaj.
pa kad je Joca ispao iz nikad prežaljene kolijevke...
Da,da,bio je to starozavetni pokusaj humora,kao i uvek britak do malo iznad korišćenog tariguza.
čini ti se, to nije vic, ja ozbiljno mislim da ti je djed bio infantilni kompleksaš, a krv nije voda.
Evo ga opet onaj usrani... Ostaćeš načisto bez tariguza pa ćeš morati guzicu potokom. Do duše, u pravu si, krv nije voda, tako su i tvoji stari pa što nebi i ti. Nego, opravi li ti ono tvoje traktorče? Ajde, ajde, požuri polako, još malo pa je vreme, da ne arčimo stare slanine na šine...
ja koliko znam, Drina teče ka Vojvodini, ne ka moru. Tako da se moraš zabrinuti ako mi ponestane tariguza...
UBIO SE AMERIČKI PILOT KOJI JE BOMBARDOVAO SRBIJU I REPUBLIKU SRPSKU
Utorak - 21.09.2010
Američki borbeni pilot, potpukovnik Harold F. - Huč Majers, nije mogao da izdrži pritisak savesti i stalne noćne more, koje su ga mučile od 1999. godine i bombardovanja SRJ.
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alo.rs%2F%2F_customfiles%2FImage%2Fslike%2F2010%2F09_sep%2F21%2Fvesti%2Fpilot-v.jpg&hash=361e27f7e4dc7268a28619e66e26b0f056e8c786)
Jedan od onih čije su bombe, između ostalih, ubile i malu Milicu Rakić iz Batajnice, prislonio je pre nekoliko dana pištolj na slepoočnicu i izvršio samoubistvo, postavši još jedan u dugom nizu američkih vojnika koji su na ovaj način, pošto im je proradila savest, prekratili sebi muke.
Majers je pre nekoliko meseci penzionisan uz dijagnozu posttraumatskog stresnog sindroma, poznatog i kao ,,vijetnamski sindrom", i teške depresije, koje je ,,pazario" nakon bombardovanja SRJ. Tog 12. septembra, kako je izjavila njegova supruga Elizabet, ništa nije slutilo na najgore.
- Iako su se u medijima pojavile informacije da je njegovom samoubistvu prethodila naša svađa, to nije istina! Proveli smo predivan dan zajedno, bili smo na ručku, uživali... Ali je on ćutao više nego obično. Takav je bio stalno poslednjih nekoliko godina... A kada smo došli kući, ovde u Santa Barbari izvukao je iz fioke pištolj i rekao: ,,Izvini, ne mogu više da izdržim", a onda ispalio hitac u slepoočnicu... A ja ne želim takvog da ga pamtim, već kao pravog, istinskog heroja, što on i jeste bio ne samo meni i porodici, već i mnogim drugim ljudima - rekla je uplakana Elizabet.
Kako su izjavili njegovi prijatelji kojima se poveravao, Majers je imao konstantne noćne more, koje nije mogao da odagna ni jakim lekovima.
- Sanjao je ljude kako gore od bombi... Čuo je njihovu vrisku, jauke... Pokušavali smo da ga smirimo pričajući mu da su to samo snovi, da on kao pilot ne može da vidi šta je bomba pogodila i da sigurno nije bilo tako kako je sanjao, ali je on stalno pričao da zna da je sve to istina. Sanjao je decu, starce, raskomadana tela... Najgore je bilo kada nije mogao da se probudi i pored takvih snova. To mu je očigledno došlo glave - rekao je jedan od njegovih prijatelja.
Majers je učestvovao u bombardovanju brojnih ,,kriznih tačaka" u svetu. Pre NATO operacije nad SRJ, radio je na ,,neutralisanju srpskih pretnji" u Bosni i Hercegovini, kao i u nekoliko misija u Iraku i Avganistanu. Za ove ,,zasluge" je više puta nagrađivan i odlikovan.
Padaju kao muve!
Procenat samoubistava vojnika koji su učestvovali u ratnim dejstvima vojske SAD među pešadincima zvanično iznosi 24 na 100.000 vojnika, a avijatičarima 13,7. Čak 90 odsto samoubica čine muškarci bele rase.
Interesantno je da je, iako zvanični podaci ne postoje, u Iraku tokom prve polovine 2009. godine broj samoubica prešao broj vojnika koji su poginuli u vojnim akcijama - 817 prema 761.
E. A.
ALO.RS
24 na 100.000? Premalo...
October 5, 2010 (CROWN POINT, Ind.) (WLS) -- Police say a gunman who fatally shot a construction worker and wounded three others in Illinois and Indiana remains on the run.
1 dead, 2 wounded in south suburban shooting spree
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"We have a very dangerous situation. The suspect is still at large and armed and dangerous," said Lake County, Ind., Sheriff Rogelio "Roy" Dominguez.
Anyone who spots the suspect should seek safety and call 911.
Police say the suspect- described as a heavyset, 5'8" tall, 230 pound white male in his 40s with short brown hair who is wearing a light green windbreaker, baseball hat and jeans- approached a construction crew with Rich Construction of Dyer, Ind., at a home at 3200-block of Stony Island Ave. in Washington Township, which is near Beecher, Ill., and shot three of the workers around 10:30 a.m. Forty-five-year-old Rolando Alonso of Hammond, Ind., died and 19-year-old Joshua Garza of Dyer, Ind., was critically injured and airlifted to Loyola University Hospital in Maywood, Ill.
"He's not doing so well. Hopefully he'll put through. He's a strong kid, he's a fighter," said Tom Mattingly, friend. "He got shot in the head."
A third construction worker fled to a nearby cornfield.
"The suspect was at the house twice. He had come one time to see if they were going to sell, the residents who were apparently rehabbing a burned out residence. He then left and returned to the house and talked to them about some materials like paneling or plywood at which time he opened fire," said Will County Sheriff Paul Kaupas.
The suspect is believed to be driving a light-colored, older model pickup truck- possibly a Ford F150 or Chevy Cheyenne. He then crossed the state line from Will County, Ill., into Lake County, Indiana, where he shot a farmer, identified by officials as 64-year-old Keith Dahl, in the town of Lowell near Cline Avenue and Route 2 around 11:30 a.m. Dahl, who was hit by three bullets in the arm, elbow and shoulder, is hospitalized in stable condition and expected to recover.
The suspect, who is considered armed and dangerous, had a conversation with Dahl before shooting the farmer.
"Apparently he said he raised bees and he wanted a location in that general location to raise hives," said Sheriff Kaupas of the suspect. "The farmer agreed he would entertain the thought and asked for the guy's name and phone number and wrote it on a scratch piece of paper and handed it to the farmer and opened fire."
"Why did they stop here and shoot him? That doesn't make sense. What's here? What would possess a guy to shoot somebody here on Cline Avenue?" said Rich Oostman, resident.
"This was totally random. It does not appear that anyone at the scene knew him," sheriff spokesman Pat Barry said in a published report.
"Obviously we have no motive. It doesn't look like there's any correlation with motive even if there was one at this location (in Illinois) versus Indiana. Looks like a random shooter," said Sheriff Kaupas.
Sheriff Dominguez said his officers were engaged in a "massive manhunt" for the suspect and an All Points Bulletin was issued.
"We've got all the doors locked, shades drawn, making sure we're a little more cautious about who's coming up and down the road," said Joe Dewes, neighbor.
The suspect is believed to be using a revolver- a Colt 38 or 357- because there are no shell casings at either of the scenes, Sheriff Dominguez said.
Tri-Creek Schools put all five of its schools-- a high school, middle school and three elementary schools-- on lockdown as a precautionary measure after receiving a call from the Lake County Sheriff's Department.
"We were told to lock the schools as a precaution," Tri-Creek Superintendent Alice Nea said to AP. "No one has tried to get into any of our buildings."
"Our principal said there is somebody dangerous in the area and we need to be really cautious. They had teachers stay by the doors to make sure no one would come in," said Brigitte Dewes, Lowell High School senior.
Sheriff Dominguez wants residents to know "24/7, we will be out looking for him& We are making every effort to apprehend this person. All of our police equipment and personnel is out to apprehend him."
Sheriff Dominguez said residents should take precautions and call 911 if they see something suspicious or think they know who this may be.
"Everybody is talking about it in the line and that. And some people said they weren't going home and just going to go elsewhere until they knew that it was safe," said one parent. "We're going home. We'll let the dog protect us." :D
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Panel: Gov't blocked scientists on spill estimate (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101007/ap_on_sc/us_gulf_oil_spill)
QuoteWASHINGTON – The Obama administration blocked efforts by government scientists to tell the public just how bad the Gulf oil spill could become and committed other missteps that raised questions about its competence and candor during the crisis, according to a commission appointed by the president to investigate the disaster.
In documents released Wednesday, the national oil spill commission's staff describes "not an incidental public relations problem" by the White House in the wake of the April 20 accident.
Among other things, the report says, the administration made erroneous early estimates of the spill's size, and President Barack Obama's senior energy adviser went on national TV and mischaracterized a government analysis by saying it showed most of the oil was "gone." The analysis actually said it could still be there.
"By initially underestimating the amount of oil flow and then, at the end of the summer, appearing to underestimate the amount of oil remaining in the Gulf, the federal government created the impression that it was either not fully competent to handle the spill or not fully candid with the American people about the scope of the problem," the report says.
The administration disputed the commission findings, saying senior government officials "were clear with the public what the worst-case flow rate could be."
In a statement Wednesday, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration chief Jane Lubchenco and White House budget director Jeffrey Zients pointed out that in early May, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar and Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen told the public that the worst-case scenario could be more than 100,000 barrels a day, or 4.2 million gallons.
For the first time, the documents — which are preliminary findings by the panel's staff — show that the White House was directly involved in controlling the message as it struggled to convey that it, not BP, was in charge of responding to what eventually became the biggest offshore oil spill in U.S. history.
Citing interviews with government officials, the report reveals that in late April or early May, the White House budget office denied a request from NOAA to make public its worst-case estimate of how much oil could spew from the blown-out well. The Unified Command — the government team in charge of the spill response — also was discussing the possibility of making the numbers public, the report says.
The report shows "the political process was in charge and science really does not have the role that was touted," said Christopher D'Elia, dean of environmental studies at Louisiana State University.
The White House budget office has traditionally been a clearinghouse for administration domestic policy. Why exactly the administration didn't want to emphasize the worst-case scenario is not made clear in the report.
However, Kenneth Baer, a spokesman for the Office of Management and Budget, said the budget office had concerns about the reliability of the NOAA estimates.
"The issue was the modeling, the science and the assumptions they were using to come up with their analysis. Not public relations or presentation," he said. "We offered NOAA suggestions of ways to improve their analysis, and they happily accepted it."
Jerry Miller, head of the White House science office's ocean subcommittee, told The Associated Press in an interview at a St. Petersburg, Fla., scientific conference on the oil spill that he didn't think the budget office censored NOAA.
"I would very much doubt that anyone would put restrictions on NOAA's ability to articulate factual information," Miller said.
The explosion in the Gulf of Mexico killed 11 workers, spewed 206 million gallons of oil from the damaged oil well, and sank the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig.
BP's drilling permit for the well originally estimated the worst-case scenario to be a leak of 6.8 million gallons per day. In late April, just after the spill began, the Coast Guard and NOAA received an updated worst-case estimate of 2.7 million to 4.6 million gallons per day.
While those figures were used as the basis for the government's response to the spill — they appeared on an internal Coast Guard situation report and on a dry-erase board in NOAA's Seattle war room — they were never announced to the public, according to the report.
However, they were, in fact, announced, as news stories from May 2 to May 5 show, though the figures received little attention at the time.
For more than a month after the explosion, government officials were telling the public that the well was releasing 210,000 gallons per day. In early August, in its final estimate of the spill's flow, the government said it was gushing 2.6 million gallons per day — close to the worst-case predictions.
The documents also criticize Carol Browner, director of the White House Office of Energy and Climate Change Policy, saying that during a series of morning-show appearances on Aug. 4, she misrepresented the findings of a federal analysis of where the oil went and incorrectly portrayed it as a scientific assessment that was peer-reviewed by inside and outside experts.
"I think it's also important to note that our scientists have done an initial assessment, and more than three-quarters of the oil is gone," Browner said on NBC's "Today" show.
But the analysis never said it was gone, according to the commission. It said it was dispersed, dissolved or evaporated — meaning it could still be there. And while NOAA administrator Jane Lubchenco was more cautious in her remarks at a news conference at the White House later that day, the commission staff accuses the two senior officials of contributing to the perception that the government's findings were more exact than they actually were.
Florida State University professor Ian MacDonald, who has repeatedly clashed with NOAA and the Coast Guard over the size of the spill, the existence of underwater plumes and oil in the sea floor, said he felt gratified by the report.
From the beginning, there was "a contradiction between discoveries and concerns by academic scientists and statements by NOAA," MacDonald said in an interview with the AP at the oil spill conference.
And he said it is still going on. MacDonald and Georgia Tech scientist Joseph Montoya said NOAA is at it again with statements saying there is no oil in ocean floor sediments. A University of Georgia science cruise, which Montoya was on, found ample evidence of oil on the Gulf floor.
U Obionu (Tenesi), vatrogasci su odbili da ugase požar koji je zahvatio jednu kuću, jer vlasnik nije na početku godine platio taksu od 75 dolara kojom se finansira rad vatrogasaca. Iako je čovek nudio da reguliše dug, oni su odbili i obezbedjivali su samo susedne kuće, da ih ne dohvati plamen, čiji su vlasnici platili taksu od 75 dolara.
Zar ne bi bilo bolje da na početku godine, svima onima koji nisu platili vatrogasnu taksu od 75 dolara, sâmi vatrogasci zapale kuće? Prirodno, dok je pale, jedan od vatrogasaca bi mogao da naglas čita delove iz Bredberijeve knjige Farenhajt 451.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3o5NxNnaxN8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3o5NxNnaxN8#)!
Nekako mi ne paše da se vatrogasci plate tek ako bude požara. I ide mi na nerve kad su neki pametni neplaćanjem svojih obaveza. U Srbiji su za struju dužni milijardu dolara, pa zato Elektrodistribucija razmišlja da meni poveća cenu struje. I tvoje kumče voli da proveze kola u nedozvoljenom pravcu. Može mu se, ima se.
Quote from: scallop on 08-10-2010, 11:43:32
Nekako mi ne paše da se vatrogasci plate tek ako bude požara. I ide mi na nerve kad su neki pametni neplaćanjem svojih obaveza.
A, da li bi pasalo da u društvu policije (u USA ili u SRB) posmatraš kako krimosi gaze nekoga koji nije platio svoj porez na prihod (naravno, ne gaze ga zbog poreza na prihod, nego jer hoće da mu otmu, na pr. ručni sat)?
Pasalo-nepasalo tako bismo mogli da završimo. Ako možeš sam da se štitiš onda nemaš razloga da plaćaš zaštitu. Ako ne možeš ili nećeš sam onda se udruži, ili plati pomoć.
Alternativa je da je plaćanje zaštite obavezno, a budeš kažnjen ako ne plaćaš svoje obaveze. Alternativa sigurno nije da svi dobijaju istu uslugu, a samo neki da je plaćaju.
Mac, to isto kažu krimosi.
Kriminalci te primoravaju da im plaćaš zaštitu iako je već plaćaš državi, i iako zapravo ne nude nikakav servis za to što im je plaćeno. Kad ne bi primoravali, i kad bi nudili uslugu, onda više ne bi bili kriminalci nego privatno obezbeđenje.
Quote from: Cornelius on 08-10-2010, 13:43:50
Quote from: scallop on 08-10-2010, 11:43:32
Nekako mi ne paše da se vatrogasci plate tek ako bude požara. I ide mi na nerve kad su neki pametni neplaćanjem svojih obaveza.
A, da li bi pasalo da u društvu policije (u USA ili u SRB) posmatraš kako krimosi gaze nekoga koji nije platio svoj porez na prihod (naravno, ne gaze ga zbog poreza na prihod, nego jer hoće da mu otmu, na pr. ručni sat)?
Odavno nešto bezveznije nisi napisao.
Ne vredi da mi eliminišeš analogiju terminom "bezvezno". I sâm znaš da vatrogasci imaju obavezu da ugase požar, nezavisno što onaj nije platio, a posle da ga tuže, da ga vode na sud i da on plati troškove. Ako udjemo u taj sistem "ne paše da se vatrogasci plate tek ako bude požara", onda nazadujemo. Nezavisno da li neko ima zdravstveno osiguranje ili ne, treba ga spasiti, pa onda razmatrati. Tako isto i vatrogasci.
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Слободан Јовановић
четвртак, 07. октобар 2010.
Председник САД Барак Обама је у телефонском разговору у петак 01. октобра изразио своје "искрено жаљење" председнику Гватемале Алвару Колому као и свима ,,који су погођени" експериментима које су у овој Централно америчкој земљи од 1946-`48. год. спроводили амерички медицински стручњаци".
Током ових експеримената, којима је руководио "контроверзни" доктор по имену Џон Катлер, сифилисом је намерно заражено више од хиљаду особа, укључујући и ментално оболеле пацијенте, затворенике и војнике.
Као и у бројним случајевима поставља се питање зашто је тек сада обелодањена ова вест и што је можда важније на који начин је овако нешто постало доступно јавности јер је несумњиво да је ово била строго чувана тајна. Осим тога занимљиво је да у последње време овакве информације све више постају доступне јавности што несумњиво говори о томе да амерички контраобавештајни обручи постепено попуштају. Сетимо се само чувеног сајта "Викиликс".
У овом конкретном случају резултати експеримената су наводно постали доступни јавности тек када је Сузан Реверби, иначе професор на колеџу Велсли, током истраживања сличног експеримента по имену "Таскиги", који је спровођен у Америци на неколико стотина сиромашних афроамериканаца оболелих од сифилиса који су обавештени да болују од "лоше крви" и којима није пружена адекватна медицинска нега, сазнала да је поменути Катлер такође одговоран и за експерименте у Гватемали у којима су људи намерно заражени вирусом који изазива полне болести.
Након што је, такође телефонским путем, Колуму изразила ,,најискреније жаљење и личну повређеност", Хилари Клинтон је са Кетлин Себелиус, секретарком за здравство и социјална питања издала заједничку изјаву у којој стоји да су спроведена истраживања "потпуно неетичка".[1]
Председник Гватемале је на конференцији коју је одржао одмах након телефонског разговора са Обамом изјавио како су експерименти представљали "злочин против човечности". Председник Гватемале је за ове експерименте наводно сазнао тек од Хилари Клинтон. "Оно што се догађало тих година представља злочин против човечности и Влада има право да уложи формалну правну жалбу", али је одмах након тога како би ублажио своју изјаву председник Гватемале рекао: "Свесни смо тога да ово не представља политику САД... То се догодило јако давно".
Након свега ова Колумова изјава, а нарочито њен додатак звуче смешно, али оно што дефинитивно није смешно јесте чињеница да су САД налик нацистичкој Немачкој спроводиле експерименте на људима "с маргине друштва" једино што је за разлику од нацистичких "научника" Америка ове експерименте спроводила и на грађанима држава које припадају тзв. трећем свету.
Ово нам даје за право да изведемо један логичан закључак. Наиме, уколико тек сада сазнајемо за ове злочине америчке владе, само је питање шта ћемо још имати прилике да сазнамо и какве је експерименте Америка спроводила у неким другим деловима света. Међутим, од овога још више брине питање да ли су поменути експерименти још увек у току у неким деловима света који представлају маргину новог светског поретка јер оно што је доступно јавности представља само врх леденог брега упркос томе што је Обама покушао да умири светску, а пре свега јавност своје земље, речима да су се "Сједињене Државе чврсто обавезале да се сва истраживања на људима у медицинске сврхе данас спроводе под међународним правним и етичким стандардима ".
Quote from: Cornelius on 08-10-2010, 15:16:41
Ne vredi da mi eliminišeš analogiju terminom "bezvezno". I sâm znaš da vatrogasci imaju obavezu da ugase požar, nezavisno što onaj nije platio, a posle da ga tuže, da ga vode na sud i da on plati troškove. Ako udjemo u taj sistem "ne paše da se vatrogasci plate tek ako bude požara", onda nazadujemo. Nezavisno da li neko ima zdravstveno osiguranje ili ne, treba ga spasiti, pa onda razmatrati. Tako isto i vatrogasci.
U Srbiji ne mora da bude tako. Nevezano za vatrogasce. Kad sam sređivao stan, zamenio sam radijatore. Sklonio one matore teške kao tuč i stavio nove, modernije, sa ispravnim ventilima (stari nije curio samo potpuno zatvoren i potpuno otvoren). Al ne lezi vraže, na varu curkala voda. Ne mnogo, ali kap po kap... Pozovemo toplanu, oni činjenica pošalju ljude kad... Snime oni radijatore i kažu - aha, novi su. Mi ne odgovaramo za njih. Popravili bismo vam da ste ostavili stare, za nove ne odgovaramo. Pitam - i dobro, šta sad? Pa ništa, morate privatno. I ostaviše da curi.
Naravno, potegao sam vezu i ceo dan nije bilo grejanja u zgradi, a možda i okolnim jer su zatvorili podstanicu i ispraznili cevi da bi došao "moj majstor" i sredio var.
albedo, dobar je to povod da po treći put na zs reklamiram odličan roman "leica format" daše drndić, koji upravo govori o događajima oko dece zaražene sifilisom, a o kojima se priča u ovoj vesti što si postovao.
Sparks Goes to the White House (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLpNSvpMoZQ#ws)
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David S. Broder
The war recovery?
David S. Broder
Sunday, October 31, 2010
When the midterm election cycle began, the prevailing opinion was that Barack Obama was cleverer and more inspirational than anyone else on the scene. As it ends, nothing appears to have changed.
OH, YES, I know that Democrats have fallen into a peck of trouble and may lose control of Congress. But even if they do, Obama can still storm back to win a second term in 2012. He is that much better than the competition.
In what respects is he enduringly superior? Let's start with the basics. He is much smarter than his challengers in either party, better able to read the evidence and come to the right conclusions.
Over time, his conclusions are likely to stand scrutiny better than those of other politicians.
The crucial case in point is his analysis of economic forces. No one would pretend that this is anything but a daunting situation. The nation is suffering simultaneously from high and persistent unemployment, lagging investment, massive public and private debt, and a highly inefficient tax system.
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The steps that have been ordered so far in Washington have done nothing more than put the brakes on the runaway decline. They have not spurred new growth.
But if Obama cannot spur that growth by 2012, he is unlikely to be reelected. The lingering effects of the recession that accompanied him to the White House will probably doom him.
Can Obama harness the forces that might spur new growth? This is the key question for the next two years.
What are those forces? Essentially, there are two. One is the power of the business cycle, the tidal force that throughout history has dictated when the economy expands and when it contracts.
Economists struggle to analyze this, but they almost inevitably conclude that it cannot be rushed and almost resists political command. As the saying goes, the market will go where it is going to go.
In this regard, Obama has no advantage over any other pol. Even in analyzing the tidal force correctly, he cannot control it.
What else might affect the economy? The answer is obvious, but its implications are frightening. War and peace influence the economy.
Look back at FDR and the Great Depression. What finally resolved that economic crisis? World War II.
Here is where Obama is likely to prevail. With strong Republican support in Congress for challenging Iran's ambition to become a nuclear power, he can spend much of 2011 and 2012 orchestrating a showdown with the mullahs. This will help him politically because the opposition party will be urging him on. And as tensions rise and we accelerate preparations for war, the economy will improve.
I am not suggesting, of course, that the president incite a war to get reelected. But the nation will rally around Obama because Iran is the greatest threat to the world in the young century. If he can confront this threat and contain Iran's nuclear ambitions, he will have made the world safer and may be regarded as one of the most successful presidents in history.
Ovaj čovek opisuje propast kojoj doprinosi:
http://chronicle.com/article/article-content/125329/ (http://chronicle.com/article/article-content/125329/)
I nisu neke pare. Ali, firma sa dvadeset zaposlenih!
ovo je legendarno!
It's not implausible to write a 75-page paper in two days. It's just miserable. I don't need much sleep, and when I get cranking, I can churn out four or five pages an hour. First I lay out the sections of an assignment—introduction, problem statement, methodology, literature review, findings, conclusion—whatever the instructions call for. Then I start Googling.
I've also got a mental library of stock academic phrases: "A close consideration of the events which occurred in ____ during the ____ demonstrate that ____ had entered into a phase of widespread cultural, social, and economic change that would define ____ for decades to come." Fill in the blanks using words provided by the professor in the assignment's instructions.
Laže ko pas. Samo je pejstovao iz drugih tekstova.
još gore za profesore koje je posr'o u ovom tekstu
Bračni par anketom odlučuje da li da zadrži nerođeno dete
Blic - Pre 38 minuta
Bračni par iz Amerike izazvao je bes javnosti nakon što je preko svog internet sajta pozvao ljude da se izjasne da li treba da zadrže još nerođeno dete, prenosi Dejli mejl. Sajt Birthornot.com: Još 18 dana do konačne odluke Arnoldovih
Pit i Ališa Arnold iz Mineapolisa odlučili su da pokrenu sajt Birthornot.com jer nisu bili sigurni da li zaista žele dete. Oni su na sajt postavili snimke fetusa, koji raste u veoma zdravog dečaka, i posetioce zamolili da glasaju do 7. decembra. Ališa se nalazi u 17. nedelji trudnoće, a nakon okončanja glasanja imaće samo dva dana da donese konačnu odluku o abortusu.
Ideja Arnoldovih naišla je na oštre kritike javnosti. Pojedinci čak smatraju da su Pit i Ališa pokrenuli sajt kako bi provocirali protivnike abortusa. Par je odlučno odbacio ove tvrdnje.
"Ovo je šokantno. Kad sam prvi put čula za njihovu ideju, pomislila sam na rimski koloseum u kome je masa odlučivala ko će živeti, a ko umreti. Oni pričaju o bebi koja je stara svega 17 nedelja. Ne mogu da shvatim to što oni rade", kaže Meri Spolding Balč, direktorka državne regulative za Nacionalno pravo na život.
Slika sa ultrazvuka 16-onedeljnog dečaka
Sa njom se slaže i Erik Šidler, izvršni direktor organizacije "Pro-life action". "Zaprepašćen sam njihovim neuspehom da shvate dostojanstvo i vrednost ljudskog života. Nije mi jasno kako neko može da bude tako hladan, proračunat i lakomislen kada je u pitanju sudbina još nerođenog deteta. Kad vidite slike razvoja bebe u majčinom stomaku, situacija vam postane još mučnija", smatra on.
Poslednji rezultati ankete pokazuju da su mišljenja veoma podeljena. Nešto više od 46 odsto ispitanika smatra da Arnoldovi treba da sačuvaju bebu, dok se 53,73 odsto njih zalaže za abortus.
Arnoldovi su krajem septembra pokrenuli svoj blog preko kojeg su ljude obavestili da je Ališa trudna i da će dobiti dečaka. Ubrzo su se, međutim, pojavili i prvi strahovi. Ališa je navela da je materinstvo toliko plaši da će doživeti nervni slom.
"Nisam ubeđena da želim da promenim status quo. Shvatila sam da sam sa godinama postala sebičnija. Plašim se da ću zažaliti ukoliko oformim porodicu i smirim se", napisala je tada ona.
Ališa je takođe istakla i da se nalazi pod stalnim pritiskom da bude savršena žena, dobra majka i ima uspešnu poslovnu karijeru. Zato je, kako kaže, u dogovoru sa mužem odlučila da pokrenu javno glasanje, koje se inače smatra jednim od najboljih vrednosti američke demokratije.
L.Tomić
Ako su sposobni da podignu sajt onda su sposobni i da podignu dete.
Sve bi dali za publicitet.
Mac - Sajt može da ima svaka šuša. Dete samo pošteni pregaoci na polju nezaštićenog seksa.
Sex as fun - logično je da se iz toga završi u totalno nemoralnoj neodgovornosti za sopstvene postupke.
:? :? :?
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi54.tinypic.com%2F2hdsdgp.jpg&hash=9279c67f2dbedf5d53ee19fc9d130b656bfff455)
Mi smo u ranoj fazi kapitalizma - dok se mi bavimo pranjem para, u SAD se odavno bave peglanjem. Kod nas nikako da uhvatimo političare u korupciji, a Ameri opet uhvatili u peglanju. Nevolja je što je Tom De Lay, bivši predsednik skupštine, štali, oglašen krivim za događaje iz 2002-ge, a tek predstoji period cimanja po raznim instancama.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11835221 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11835221)
Pitanja su dal' će ga na kraju osuditi, ko sve nije uhvaćen ranije, tada i od tada. Zato ne treba sumnjati da će i kod nas, jednog dana, taj lov početi. I sigurno je da bavljenje politikom nije radi slave, ima nešto i u lovi. Mučno je što kod nas to ne rade samo političari. Maltene bilo ko ko udara neki mur na papir neće ništa da radi ako mu se ne tutne neka para. Kakvo jebeno peglanje ili pranje, kod nas je na delu iznuđivanje.
Quote from: scallop on 25-11-2010, 09:30:55
Pitanja su dal' će ga na kraju osuditi,
Neće. U demokratskim društvima, kada uhvate političara koji krade, otima, falsifikuje i pljačka, onda ga vode na sud, ali zbog redovnog nedostatka dokaza, on redovno biva oslobodjen. Potom, nastavlja sa istom rabotom. Eventualno, ubistvo pred očima svedoka može nešto da promeni. A i to je pitanje.
Ma, tamo je zavera da se ne poštuju zakoni. Isto kao i ovde. To je jasno kao kajsijevača... Jedino ponekad naprave predstavu Velikog Brata, da svima bude milo.
QuoteChina and Russia have decided to renounce the US dollar and resort to using their own currencies for bilateral trade, Premier Wen Jiabao and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin announced late on Tuesday.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-11/24/content_11599087.htm (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-11/24/content_11599087.htm)
:)
Heh.. Američko trejdmark zakonodavstvo je uvek bilo magično:
Facebook looks to trademark the word 'face' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11837939)
QuoteThe social networking giant Facebook is a few steps away from trademarking the word face, online documents reveal.
The site has been asked to detail a "statement of use" by the US Patent and Trademark Office, explaining how it intends to use the word.
If granted, the trademark will only apply to online sites and services used to exchange messages.
It could limit the use of the word in other social networks and services, such as Apple's Facetime, lawyers said.
Trade mark specialist Fiona McBride, from law firm Withers and Rogers, said the move was "not as unexpected as it may sound ".
"Facebook is right to lay legal claim to use of the word 'face' in the context of social networking sites and other specific computer-linked activities because they have built up a reputation in the name Facebook, of which arguably 'face' is the dominant element," she said.
The social network's ambitions were first reported by technology blog TechCrunch.
It highlighted a document that showed the social network had applied for the trademark for use in "telecommunication services, namely, providing online chat rooms and electronic bulletin boards for transmission of messages among computer users".
Facebook is currently the largest social network, with nearly 600million users.
Facebook declined to comment on the story.
Znači, ako dobiju taj trade mark, ima da bude, kao ono Face(c)s of my school friends.... :twisted: :idea: :evil:
Nadam se da takođe ispod žita rade na trejdmarkovanju reči "book" u kontekstu socijalnih mreža. Tako bi posjedovali sve!!!
Ništa neobično...
Michael Brea Says He Killed The Demon Inside His Mother
26 November 2010 17:51
Michael Brea Says He Killed The Demon Inside His Mother
MICHAEL BREA, the 31-year-old American actor who is accused of killing his own mother, has told the New York Daily News that he "killed the demon insider her". Brea was arrested on Tuesday (23rd November 2010) after his mother Yannick was found dead in her Brooklyn apartment.
In an interview from his prison cell, the 'Ugly Betty' actor said, "I didn't kill her. I killed the demon inside her. It was the work of God". Brea reportedly spoke with "white-hot intensity and unflinching confidence" while explaining his reasons behind the attack, and added, "I was sleeping in my bedroom. God came above my bed and reached his arm to me". The actor went on to explain, "I said, 'God, is my time on earth over?' I heard a voice say, 'Yes Michael, today is your last day.' I asked if I could say goodbye to my family".
Both Brea and his mother shared an apartment in Prospect Heights and the actor says he began the attack after Yannick had asked for his help in the kitchen. He said, "I looked at these chickens lying dead in the pot and a voice told me it was a sacrifice. It was black magic..I asked, 'Do you believe in God?' She said, 'No, Michael no,' and began screaming. I began slashing her like this".
Bog piše horor romane...
За оног ко не зна да препозна драму, све је хорор.
Wikileaks strikes again! (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/)
Secret US Embassy Cables
Wikileaks began on Sunday November 28th publishing 251,287 leaked United States embassy cables, the largest set of confidential documents ever to be released into the public domain. The documents will give people around the world an unprecedented insight into US Government foreign activities...
Trenutno je procesirano 243 od 251281 dokumenta. Od onoga što jeste ovde se i mi spominjemo:
Belgrade:
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/09/09PARIS1254.html (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/09/09PARIS1254.html)
Yugoslavia:
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2008/08/08MUSCAT565.html (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2008/08/08MUSCAT565.html)
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/07/09STATE80163.html (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/07/09STATE80163.html)
Kosovo:
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/09/09PARIS1254.html (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/09/09PARIS1254.html)
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/12/09DOHA733.html (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/12/09DOHA733.html)
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2008/01/08BERLIN122.html (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2008/01/08BERLIN122.html)
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2007/12/07PARIS4685.html (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2007/12/07PARIS4685.html)
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/06/09STATE62392.html (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/06/09STATE62392.html)
Ko je nestrpljiv i želi sam da kopa evo mu kompletnog torenta:
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/static/cablegate-.7z.torrent (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/static/cablegate-.7z.torrent)
Ovaj torent nije u upotrebi. Skinuo sam s drugog torenta fajl s imenom cablegate-201011282316.7z, ali u njemu ima samo 220 depeša. Neka, čekaćemo.
Inače zaboravio sam spominjanje Srbije:
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2010/02/10ANKARA302.html#par16 (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2010/02/10ANKARA302.html#par16) (uočiti kako su reč genocid stavili u navodnike)
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/09/09PARIS1254.html#par4 (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/09/09PARIS1254.html#par4)
Croatia:
http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/10/09BERLIN1271.html#par4 (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/10/09BERLIN1271.html#par4) (ono što smo sto puta čuli sad verujem, jbg, zvaničan dokument)
Američki državni tužilac izjavio je da je u toku krivična istraga protiv Vikiliksa. Pojedini senatori čak zahtevaju da se isti proglasi terorističkom organizacijom, u rangu Al Kaide !
Mnogo mi je drago što su ta dokumenta izašla na videlo. Mene niti su začudila, niti zaprepastila, od svetskih šerifa ništa drugo nisam ni očekivao. Pitam se kako će sve to objasniti oni ovde koji se klanjaju na sam pomen SAD, ubeđuju nas da je to jedna demokratska zemlja, sa demokratskom i civilizovanom vlašću koja mnogo brine o miru u svetu, demokratiji i ljudskim pravima...
Objavljivanje 260.000 diplomatskih depesa na sajtu Wikileaksa nam je ukazalo na dve stvari. Prva i manje vazna jeste da Galina ima velike sise i da se Gadafi sada vise pali na plavuse nego na crnkinje. Potom u tu kategoriju spada i niz traceva istog nivoa.
Druga, izuzetno vazna stvar, jeste da je Iran kupio od Severne Koreje rakete dometa do 3000 km, kao i izjave svih vladara golfskih zemalja da treba sto pre stati na put Iranu. Iz ovih informacija (jedine informacije u citavom kazanu) saznaje se da SAD priprema vojni napad na Iran i da je dopusten izlazak informacija o saudijskom kralju koji je od njih trazio da napadnu Iran i da "zmiji odseku glavu".
Takodje, ove informacije pripremaju javnost za americku agresiju, jer vise nije samo Amerika koja hoce da napadne Iran, nego i sve golfske kraljevine i emirati. Znaci, vise nije u pitanju americka strateska potreba da vladaju svim izvorima nafte u tom delu sveta, nego da izvrse narodnu volju. Kako ono rekose W i njegove ubice - borba Dobra protiv Zla.
To smo dobili već u prvih dvestotinak depeša. Ja čekam one ostale, u kojima se mi spominjemo. A Iranu ko je kriv, ako su hteli nuklearnu elektranu mogli su prosto da kupe jednu, a ne da sami obogaćuju uranijum.
Citao sam depese u kojima se "mi" spominjemo. Nema nista specijalno. Na pr. kazu Francuzi da Jeremic sve obeceva kad mu se kaze, a posle nista ne uradi. Kritikuju siptarske vlasti na Kosovu, kritikuju srpske vlasti po pitanju Kosova, kritikuju BiH, traze da se u dogledno vreme omoguci ulazak balkanskih zemalja u EU, iako svi smatraju da je to jako daleko, ali nema nikakvih posebnih "tajni", niti bilo cega sto vec svi mi nismo znali.
Bombings Hit Atomic Experts in Iran Streets
One of the two cars bombed Monday in Tehran. One Iranian nuclear scientist was killed and another was wounded in the attacks.
By WILLIAM YONG and ROBERT F. WORTH
TEHRAN — Unidentified assailants riding motorcycles carried out separate bomb attacks here on Monday against two of the country's top nuclear scientists, killing one and prompting accusations that the United States and Israel were again trying to disrupt Iran's nuclear program.
The slain scientist, Majid Shahriari, managed a "major project" for the country's Atomic Energy Organization, Iran's nuclear chief, Ali Akbar Salehi, told the semiofficial IRNA news agency. His wounded colleague, Fereydoon Abbasi, is believed to be even more important; he is on the United Nations Security Council's sanctions list for ties to the Iranian nuclear effort.
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that "undoubtedly the hand of the Zionist regime and Western governments is involved" in the attacks. He also publicly acknowledged, apparently for the first time, that the country's nuclear program had been disrupted recently by malicious computer software that attacked its centrifuges.
The two scientists are among the most prominent in the Iranian nuclear world, and the brazen daylight attacks on them seemed certain to worsen tensions over the country's controversial uranium enrichment efforts.
Israel and the United States have often signaled that they will not tolerate a nuclear Iran. Neither has acknowledged pursuing sabotage or assassinations there, but both are widely believed to be pursuing ways to undermine the country's nuclear program short of bombing reactor sites, including damaging the centrifuges to slow down the production of enriched uranium.
"They're bad people, and the work they do is exactly what you need to design a bomb," said a federal official who assesses scientific intelligence and spoke on condition of anonymity. "They're both top scientists."
Philip J. Crowley, the State Department spokesman, did not address the Iranian accusations in detail. "All I can say is we decry acts of terrorism wherever they occur and beyond that, we do not have any information on what happened," he said.
Diplomatic efforts to stop the Iranian nuclear program appear to have failed, and this year, the United Nations and Western powers imposed a new, tougher round of sanctions. On Oct. 29, Iran said it was willing to resume talks with the European Union over its nuclear program, a step that American officials view as a sign that the sanctions were having an effect on Iran's troubled economy. Iran has delayed a major economic reform package, apparently concerned about possible unrest if prices for basic goods rise further.
Dr. Shahriari published dozens of esoteric conference reports and peer-reviewed articles on nuclear research, at least five of which list Mr. Salehi, the Iranian nuclear agency chief, as a co-author. He was an expert on neutron transport, a field that lies at the heart of nuclear chain reactions in bombs and reactors. Some Iranian media reports said he taught at the Supreme National Defense University, which is run by the Iranian Army.
The United Nations describes Dr. Abbasi as a senior scientist in the Ministry of Defense "working closely" with Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, an officer in the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps whom Western intelligence considers a leader in Tehran's effort to acquire a nuclear warhead. The federal analyst said that Dr. Abbasi was more deeply entwined with secretive aspects of the Iranian effort than was his slain colleague.
"Abbasi is the big one," the analyst said. "He goes way, way back."
Mr. Salehi issued an angry warning to the Western powers and their allies on Monday, saying "the patience of the Iranian people has its limits."
"If our patience runs out," he said, "you will suffer the consequences."
Mr. Ahmadinejad, speaking at a news conference, vowed that the nuclear program would continue, but acknowledged damage from the computer worm. "They succeeded in creating problems for a limited number of our centrifuges with the software they had installed in electronic parts," he said.
Iranian officials had previously acknowledged unspecified problems with centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium that can be used for peaceful energy generation or atomic weapons. But the Iranians had always denied that the problems were caused by malicious computer code.
A worm known as Stuxnet is believed to have struck Iran over the summer. Experts said that the program, which is precisely calibrated to send nuclear centrifuges wildly out of control, was probably developed by technicians working for a government.
Mr. Ahmadinejad did not specify the type of malicious software or those behind it, but said that "fortunately our experts discovered that, and today they are not able anymore" to damage Iran's centrifuges.
The motorcycle attackers attached the bombs to the professors' cars, then drove off, detonating them from a distance, according to Iranian news media reports. Dr. Abbasi's wife was also hurt, the reports said.
Last January, a remote-controlled bomb killed a physics professor, Massoud Ali Mohammadi, outside his home. The Iranian authorities also blamed that attack on the United States and Israel, a charge the State Department dismissed as absurd.
In 2007, state television said that another nuclear scientist, Ardeshir Hosseinpour, had died of gas poisoning.
Both Dr. Mohammadi and Dr. Shahriari were associated with a nonnuclear scientific research unit, based in Jordan and operating under United Nations auspices, known as Sesame, for Synchrotron-light for Experimental Science and Applications in the Middle East. Unusually, its nine-member council includes representatives from Israel, along with Iran and other Muslim countries. It was not clear whether the bomb attacks on the two Iranian scientists were linked to their association with the organization.
The latest bombings came a day after leaked State Department documents quoted several Arab leaders as urging the United States to attack Iran's nuclear facilities. Iran says its nuclear program is for civilian purposes only, but many in the West and in Israel maintain that Tehran's aim is to build a nuclear bomb.
William Yong reported from Tehran, and Robert F. Worth from Cairo. William J. Broad contributed reporting from New York, and Alan Cowell from Paris.
Evo čemu služi Wikileaks
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11871641 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11871641)
Kina bi volela ujedinjenu Koreju pod upravom Seula ;)
Ekvadoranci su primerom objasnili čojstvo i junaštvo :-)
Wikileaks je plaćen da nas ubedi kako je tačno ono što nagađamo. Istina je out there.
To je taj dugo očekivani disclosure...
Naravno da je W čista podmetačina. Tek da se propere prljav veš, na vreme. Šta Post i Times objave, kroz sitna rešeta pretresti... Pa baciti.
Nešto gadno spremaju mjkm im !
Radne akcije...
Sa sve žuljevima i značkama... cijeniš?
Šta bi drugo?
Pa nešto gadno mjkmu im!!
Rad je najgora stvar koju mogu da zamislim.
Quote from: Lord Kufer on 30-11-2010, 20:57:15
Rad je najgora stvar koju mogu da zamislim.
Jes, vala... Svako ko mi kaze da voli da radi, ja ga pitam a sto posle trazi pare za to. Ako volis, radi bre za dzabe.
Roboti će nas uskoro zameniti... Ti što vole da rade - najebali su ;)
Znači pustiće neki roboaids!!!!!!!!!!
Biće svetska revolucija. Radnici hoće da rade. Želim im dug i težak rad...
Živeo drug Staljin i svetska revolucija! ;)
Живео!!! опс, увек се зајебем... :oops: :lol: :lol:
Svi ćete dobiti sapun, idete na dezinsekciju a zatim na tuširanje...
Genocidan neki kufer,navalio na tuširanje... :!:
Ma, to je samo prividno ;)
Mikelanđelo, Rob - buđenje
Jakako...
WikiLeaks' Next Target: Bank of America?http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/wikileaks-next-target-bank-of-america/?src=busln (http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/wikileaks-next-target-bank-of-america/?src=busln)
Kakva drama, čoveče :?
QuoteWall Street was atwitter late on Monday when WikiLeaks' founder, Julian Assange, disclosed in a Forbes interview that the organization's next target was a major American bank, with a major data reveal to come early next year.
Of course, he didn't specify which bank; Mr. Assange is, among other things, skilled at building up suspense for his organization's massive data dumps. But in this case, he may have let the cat out of the bag a year ago.
Toliko su pokrali i izvarali da više pojma nemaju šta da rade,pa ko prave frku-paniku.
20 godina po dogovoru sprovode pljačku i nepoštovanje zakona. Sad će da okrenu list ;)
Znači samo jedno, nova tehnološka revolucija kojoj treba istorijski prevrat...
Zaista se nešto gadno sprema, a priča je prva spremna.
Amerika je na ivici propasti, evo i žene su pomolile glavu i traže jednaka prava (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101207/ap_on_bi_ge/us_supreme_court_wal_mart_discrimination):
QuoteBy MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Mark Sherman, Associated Press – Mon Dec 6, 10:26 pm ET
WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court will consider whether to keep alive the largest job discrimination case in U.S. history, a lawsuit against Wal-Mart that grew from a half-dozen women to a class action that could involve billions of dollars for more than a half million female workers.
Wal-Mart is trying to halt the lawsuit, with the backing of many other big companies concerned about rules for class-action cases — those in which people with similar interests increase their leverage by joining in a single claim. Class actions against discount seller Costco and the tobacco industry are among pending claims that the high court's decision might alter.
The suit against Wal-Mart Stores Inc. contends that women at Wal-Mart and Sam's Club stores are paid less and promoted less often than men. The case the high court accepted on Monday will not examine whether the claims are true, only whether they can be tried together.
Estimates of the size of the class range from 500,000 to 1.5 million women who work or once worked for Wal-Mart.
Wal-Mart, based in Bentonville, Ark., is appealing a ruling by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco that the class-action lawsuit could go to trial.
Tobacco giant Altria Corp., Bank of America Corp., Dole Food Company Inc., General Electric Co., Intel Corp., Pepsico Inc. and United Parcel Service Inc. are among the companies that also called for high court review of the case.
Wal-Mart praised Monday's Supreme Court intervention.
"The current confusion in class action law is harmful for everyone — employers, employees, businesses of all types and sizes, and the civil justice system," Wal-Mart said in a statement. "These are exceedingly important issues that reach far beyond this particular case."
Lawyers representing the women said they are eager to resolve procedural issues that have delayed the trial.
They said they "welcome the U.S. Supreme Court's limited review of the sex discrimination case and are confident that the court will agree that the women of Wal-Mart are entitled to their day in court."
Wal-Mart employs 1.4 million people in the United States and 2.1 million workers in 8,000 stores worldwide. The company said the women should not be allowed to join together in the lawsuit because each outlet operates as an independent business. Wal-Mart argued that it doesn't have a companywide policy of discrimination, and therefore women alleging gender bias should file individual lawsuits against individual stores.
The plaintiffs contend that the company was aware that it lagged behind other employers in terms of opportunities for women and that Wal-Mart imposes uniform rules and tight controls over its stores.
Wal-Mart said that allowing the large number of claims to go forward would set off an avalanche of similar class-action lawsuits in California and the other Western states overseen by the 9th Circuit. Class-actions increase pressure on businesses to settle lawsuits because of the cost of defending them and the potential for very large judgments.
But the lawyers representing the women who are suing Wal-Mart say there have been only eight such suits nationwide — and none within the 9th Circuit — since the first appeals court ruling in favor of the women nearly four years ago. "This threatened landslide of class-action litigation has not materialized," the lawyers said in legal papers filed with the Supreme Court.
Patty Edwards, chief investment officer at Trutina Financial, a wealth investment and management company in Bellevue, Wash., said that if the case is allowed to be pursued as a class-action suit, it could hurt Wal-Mart's image, which she said has greatly improved in recent years. In 2009, Wal-Mart created a women's leadership council made up of senior executives from the more than dozen countries it operates in.
The lawsuit was first filed by six women in federal court in 2001. The 9th Circuit has three times ruled that the case could proceed as a class action.
In its latest decision, in April, the appeals court voted 6-5 in favor of the plaintiffs. Judge Michael Daly Hawkins said that the number of women involved is large, but "mere size does not render a case unmanageable."
Judge Sandra Ikuta's blistering dissent said the female employees failed to present proof of widespread discrimination. Without such evidence, Ikuta said, "there is nothing to bind these purported 1.5 million claims together in a single action."
The case will be argued in the spring.
The case is Wal-Mart Stores v. Dukes, 10-277.
Bem ti, a šta će biti sa Kviki-Martom?!
Inside WikiLeaks (2010)
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_m47RlRiYoAg%2FTQIYBLZ2l-I%2FAAAAAAAAJ2c%2FoPZTXTDJSpo%2Fs1600%2FSBS.Dateline.Inside.Wikileaks.DVB.x264.AAC.MVGroup.Forum.jpg&hash=f1ee03a93a03e189124c4cafee3c2d1fa00eef61)
Ovaj čovek, Julian Assange, je samo za par dana, a čega smo bili svedoci, postao internacionalni heroj i outlaw na svim mogućim nivoima, i to ne samo iz razloga što je objavljivanjem tajnih depeša na svom sajtu pokazao pravo lice američke dimplomatije, nego i ovako, jer je mnogim ljudima širom sveta dao nadu da taj licemerni sistem vrednosti na kojem počivaju ne samo SAD nego i većina modernih država uključujući naravno i Evropsku Uniju, može i mora pasti. Ljudi bre, pa on je ovom svojom akcjom, ako ćemo iskreno, naneo SAD daleko veću štetu nego navodni Bin Laden. Alal mu vera. Dakle, sloboda za Asanža, smrt državi !
http://abraxas365dokumentarci.blogspot.com/2010/12/inside-wikileaks-2010.html (http://abraxas365dokumentarci.blogspot.com/2010/12/inside-wikileaks-2010.html)
Si ti, neki, anarho...sindikalac?
http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/ (http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/)
Kake veze to ima leba ti, sa anarhizmom ?
Nihilizam je kljucna rec !!! 8-)
Ma, kako ti kažeš! :-)
De Mortibus Nihil Nihi Bene.....
Vidi, vidi, oće pandrkne Holbruk. Lepo.
Quote from: Steva Lazin Ljuštikin on 12-12-2010, 20:39:11
Vidi, vidi, oće pandrkne Holbruk. Lepo.
Really? jadan on, kako ga nije stra' da pandrkne... xdrinka
Obamina reforma zdravstva naletela na prvu BAŠ VELIKU prepreku - jedan od sudija je proglasio jedan od elemenata predloga zakona neustavnim:
Big legal setback for Obama's health care overhaul (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101214/ap_on_go_ot/us_health_care_overhaul)
QuoteBy MARK SHERMAN and ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Mark Sherman And Erica Werner, Associated Press – Mon Dec 13, 9:44 pm ET
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's historic health care overhaul hit its first major legal roadblock Monday, thrown into doubt by a federal judge's declaration that the heart of the sweeping legislation is unconstitutional. The decision handed Republican foes ammunition for their repeal effort next year as the law heads for almost certain eventual judgment by the U.S. Supreme Court.
The ruling by U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson, a Republican appointee in Richmond, Va., marked the first successful court challenge to any portion of the new law, following two earlier rulings in its favor by Democratic-appointed judges.
The law's central requirement for nearly all Americans to carry insurance is unconstitutional, well beyond Congress' power to mandate, Hudson ruled, agreeing with the argument of Virginia's Republican attorney general — and many of the GOP lawmakers who will take control of the U.S. House in January. Hudson denied Virginia's request to strike down the law in its entirety or block it from being implemented while his ruling is appealed by the Obama administration.
"An individual's personal decision to purchase — or decline to purchase — health insurance from a private provider is beyond the historical reach of the Commerce Clause," said Hudson, a 2002 appointee of President George W. Bush.
Nevertheless, the White House predicted it would prevail in the Supreme Court, although it may be a year or two before the health care law gets there. The next step for the Virginia lawsuit is the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, where Democratic-appointed judges hold a majority.
In an interview with television station WFLA in Tampa, Fla., on Monday, Obama emphasized that other judges had either found the law constitutional or dismissed lawsuits against it.
"Keep in mind this is one ruling by one federal district court. We've already had two federal district courts that have ruled that this is definitely constitutional," Obama said. "You've got one judge who disagreed. That's the nature of these things."
But in the short term, the latest court ruling hands potent ammunition to GOP opponents as they prepare to assert control in the new Congress with promises to repeal the law. Obama in turn has promised to veto any repeal legislation and appears likely to be able to prevail since Democrats retain control of the Senate. Republicans also have discussed trying to starve the law of funding.
Whatever the eventual outcome, Monday's ruling could create uncertainty around the administration's efforts to gradually put into effect the landmark legislation extending health coverage to 32 million uninsured Americans. And it can only increase the public's skepticism, which has not significantly receded in the months since the law's enactment, defying Obama's prediction that it would become more popular as the public got to know it.
Obama aides said implementation would not be affected, noting that the individual insurance requirement and other major portions of the legislation don't take effect until 2014.
Underscoring the potential for Hudson's ruling to become a political cudgel for the new Republican House majority, incoming House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, quickly cautioned states against "investing time and resources in Obamacare's implementation now that its central mandate has been ruled unconstitutional."
"Republicans have made a pledge to America to repeal this job-killing health care law, and that's what we're going to do," said Boehner. Calls to repeal the law were a staple of tea party campaign rallies this year.
Other lawsuits are going forward, including one by 20 states that gets under way Thursday in Florida. That suit also challenges whether the federal government can require states to expand their Medicaid programs.
The suit that was decided on Monday had gained a high profile because it was pursued by Virginia's outspoken attorney general, Ken Cuccinelli. The two earlier cases decided in favor of the administration were brought by little-known legal entities.
In his ruling, Hudson largely agreed with Cuccinelli's argument that Congress exceeded its authority, and he dismissed the Justice Department's argument that the insurance-buying requirement would come under the definition of regulating interstate commerce, a power given to Congress by the Constitution.
The mandate for people to buy insurance "is neither within the letter nor the spirit of the Constitution," the judge said.
Hudson limited his ruling to striking down the so-called individual mandate, leaving intact other portions of the law — something supporters cast as a victory. But administration officials and outside analysts agree that important provisions of the legislation could not go forward without the requirement for everyone to be insured. That's because insurers need to have large pools of healthy people, who are cheap to insure, or it is not financially tenable for them to extend coverage to anyone with a pre-existing condition or guarantee certain policies to nearly all comers.
Some provisions of the law took effect in September, six months after its passage, including free preventive care, an elimination of lifetime limits on coverage and a requirement for insurers to allow adult children to stay on their parents' health plans until age 26.
Hudson recognized that his would not be the last word on the subject.
"The final word will undoubtedly reside with a higher court," he wrote.
White House health reform director Nancy-Ann DeParle said the administration is encouraged by the two other judges — in Virginia and Michigan — who have upheld the law. She said the Justice Department is reviewing Hudson's ruling.
In contrast to Hudson's ruling, the judges in Michigan and Virginia, both appointed by President Bill Clinton, said the purchase requirement was allowable under the Constitution.
Nju Jork Tajms se oglašava na istu temu:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/14/health/policy/14assess.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/14/health/policy/14assess.html)
Pogubljen sredstvom za uspvljivanje živitinja
Politika - Pre 43 minuta
Usled nestašice uobičajenog hemijskog proizvoda, u SAD je prvi put jedan osuđenik na smrt pogubljen sredstvom za uspavljivanje životinja, prenose američki mediji.
Džon Dejvid Đuti (58) pogubljen je sinoć u Oklahomi uz pomoć anestetika koji se obično koristi za uspavljivanje životinja jer su sve zalihe "natrijum thiopentola", barbiturata u sastavu smrtonosne injekcije koja se daje osuđenima na pogubljenje, bile iscrpene.
Đuti, koji je osuđen na smrt zbog ubistva zatvorenika sa kojim je delio ćeliju, proglašen je mrtvim svega šest minuta od početka ubrizgavanja pentobarbitala, jakog veterinarskog anestetika.
Smrtonosni koktel koji se obično ubrizgava u venu osuđenika na smrt sadrži tri proizvoda - tiopental, koji uspavljuje, pankuronijum, koji parališe mišiće i zaustavlja disanje i kalijum hlorid, koji zaustavlja rad srca.
Od septembra, međutim, u Oklahomi, kao i u nekoliko drugih američkih država, došlo je do nestašice tiopentala, anestetika čija upotreba ima odobrenje Vrhovnog suda.
Budući da će tiopental ponovo početi da se proizvodi tek od 2011, vlasti američkih države su morale da se dovijaju na razne načine kako ne bi morale da odlože zakazana pogubljenja.
Mislim da Đuti trenutno nije u stanju da napiše kongresu žalbu na takav "nehuman" postupak. Sumnjam čak da mu je svejedno ćime su ga otpremili na onaj svet.
Šalu na stranu, nisam znao da jedna od tih injekcija zaustavlja disanje. Zar osuđenik ne doživljava agoniju, guši se? Bez obzira što je uspavan? Polazim od toga da se svako iz sna budi kad mu neko drugi začepi nos i usta... (Paz' sad kad ispadnem pakGlu...)
Verovatno niko nije imao prilike da se požali...
Mada, ko zna, ako je jak taj anestetik možda i ne osetiš, pogotovo što taj pankuronium bromid deluje tako što ti mišiće opušta do te mere da više ne možeš da ih koristiš, pa time zaustavlja disanje. Dakle, u teoriji, toliko se opustiš da umireš... Neprijatno.
pankuronijum kaže sve...
Leči sve?
PAN! K'o panslavizam.
Jeza...
Nije Amerika, ali je dobroooo
'Who the Hell You Think You Are?' Nigel Farage throws egg in Eurocrat faces (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs#)
Ovi Amerikanci uvek za korak ispred drugih, makar u bizarnim odlukama:
Kidney parole condition raises ethical questions (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101230/ap_on_re_us/us_sisters_pardon_kidney)
QuoteBy HOLBROOK MOHR, Associated Press Holbrook Mohr, Associated Press – Thu Dec 30, 6:33 pm ET
JACKSON, Miss. – A debate is unfolding over an unusual offer from Mississippi's governor: He will free two sisters imprisoned for an armed robbery that netted $11, but one woman's release requires her to donate her kidney to the other.
The condition is alarming some experts, who have raised legal and ethical questions. Among them: If it turns out the sisters aren't a good tissue match, does that mean the healthy one goes back to jail?
Gov. Haley Barbour's decision to suspend the life sentences of Jamie and Gladys Scott was applauded by civil rights organizations and the women's attorney, who have long said the sentences were too harsh for the crime.
The sisters are black, and their case has been a cause celebre in the state's African-American community.
The Scotts were convicted in 1994 of leading two men into an ambush in central Mississippi the year before. Three teenagers hit each man in the head with a shotgun and took their wallets â€" making off with only $11, court records said.
After 16 years in prison, Jamie Scott, 36, is on daily dialysis, which officials say costs the state about $200,000 a year.
Barbour agreed to release her because of her medical condition, but 38-year-old Gladys Scott's release order says one of the conditions she must meet is to donate the kidney within one year.
The idea to donate the kidney was Gladys Scott's and she volunteered to do it in her petition for early release.
National NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous thanked Barbour on Thursday after meeting him at the state capital in Jackson, calling his decision "a shining example" of the way a governor should use the power of clemency.
Others aren't so sure.
Arthur Caplan, the director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania, has studied transplants and their legal and ethical ramifications for about 25 years. He said he's never heard of anything like this.
Even though Gladys Scott proposed the idea in her petition for an early release and volunteered to donate the organ, Caplan said, it is against the law to buy and sell organs or to force people to give one up.
"When you volunteer to give a kidney, you're usually free and clear to change your mind right up to the last minute," he said. "When you put a condition on it that you could go back to prison, that's a pretty powerful incentive."
So what happens if she decides, minutes from surgery, to back off the donation?
"My understanding is that she's committed to doing this. This is something that she came up with," said Barbour's spokesman, Dan Turner. "This is not an idea the governor's office brokered. It's not a quid pro quo."
What happens if medical testing determines that the two are not compatible for a transplant? Turner said the sisters are a blood-type match, but that tests to determine tissue compatibility still need to be done.
If they don't match, or if she backs out, will she be heading back to prison?
"All of the 'What if' questions are, at this point, purely hypothetical," Barbour said in a statement from his office late Thursday. "We'll deal with those situations if they actually happen."
Legally, there should be no problems since Gladys Scott volunteered to donate the kidney, said George Cochran, a professor at the University of Mississippi School of Law who specializes in constitutional matters.
"You have a constitutional right to body integrity, but when you consent (to donate an organ) you waive that" right, he said.
Other experts said the sisters' incarceration and their desire for a transplant operation are two separate matters and should not be tied together.
Dr. Michael Shapiro, chief of organ transplants at Hackensack University Medical Center in New Jersey and the chair of the ethics committee at the United Network for Organ Sharing, said the organ transplant should not be a condition of release.
"The simple answer to that is you can't pay someone for a kidney," Shapiro said. "If the governor is trading someone 20 years for a kidney, that might potentially violate the valuable consideration clause" in federal regulations.
That clause is meant to prohibit the buying or selling of organs, and Shapiro said the Scott sisters' situation could violate that rule because it could be construed as trading a thing of value — freedom from prison — for an organ.
Putting conditions on parole, however, is a long-standing practice. And governors granting clemency have sometimes imposed unusual ones, such as requiring people whose sentences are reduced to move elsewhere.
In 1986, South Dakota Gov. Bill Janklow commuted the sentences of 36 criminals, but only on the condition that they leave his state and never come back. In Florida, the governor and members of his cabinet voted in 1994 to reduce a convicted killer's sentence as long as he agreed to live in Maryland.
Whatever the legal or ethical implications of Barbour's decision, it thrust him back into the spotlight, after his recent comments in a magazine article about growing up in the segregated South struck some as racially insensitive.
In the article, Barbour explained that the public schools in his hometown of Yazoo City didn't see the violence that other towns did, and attributed that to the all-white Citizens Council in Mississippi.
Some critics said he glossed over the group's role in segregation. He later said he wasn't defending the group.
The Scott sisters' attorney, Chokwe Lumumba, said people have asked if Barbour, who is mentioned as a potential presidential contender in 2012, suspended their sentences for political reasons.
"My guess is he did," Lumumba said, but he still said the governor did the right thing.
Mississippi Rep. George Flaggs, an outspoken Democrat in the state legislature and an African-American, scoffed at suggestions that Barbour's motive was political and said the decision wasn't an attempt to gloss over the magazine comments.
Flaggs said Barbour suspended the sentences "not only to let this woman out of prison, but to save her life.
"If she doesn't get a kidney, she's going to die," he said.
Fašističkim Amerikancima čak ni privatnost na Twitteru nije sveta:
WikiLeaks: US demanding Twitter account info (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110108/ap_on_hi_te/wikileaks)
QuoteBy RAPHAEL G. SATTER, Associated Press Raphael G. Satter, Associated Press – 34 mins ago
LONDON – WikiLeaks' Twitter account details have been subpoenaed by U.S. officials, the secret-spilling site announced Saturday, adding that it suspected other American Internet companies were also being asked to hand over information about its activities.
In an e-mail statement, WikiLeaks said that U.S. investigators had gone to the San Francisco-based Twitter Inc. to demand the private messages, contact information, and other personal details of founder Julian Assange and three people associated with the secret-spilling website.
WikiLeaks blasted the court order, saying it amounted to harassment.
"If the Iranian government was to attempt to coercively obtain this information from journalists and activists of foreign nations, human rights groups around the world would speak out," Assange said in statement.
A copy of the court order, dated Dec. 14 and posted to Salon.com, said that the information sought was "relevant to an ongoing criminal investigation" and ordered Twitter not to disclose its existence to Assange or any of the others targeted.
The order was unsealed "thanks to legal action by Twitter," WikiLeaks said in its statement. Twitter has declined comment on the claim, saying only that its policy is to notify its users, where possible, of government requests for information.
U.S. officials have been examining possible charges against WikiLeaks and its staff following a series of spectacular leaks which have embarrassed officials and tarnished Washington's image. The U.S. State Department has said that the website's latest leak — the disclosure of thousands of confidential diplomatic cables — has harmed U.S. diplomacy and could put human rights activists and others at risk.
WikiLeaks denies that charge, saying that Washington is acting out of embarrassment over the revelations contained in the cables.
___
Michael Liedtke in San Francisco contributed to this report.
Srećom, tu su komenatari poštene inteligencije:
QuoteForget WikiLeaks, what about the rights of regular people. How dare they take Twitter accounts, etc and read them? There's no privacy and this is just another excuse to have us all take off our UNDERWEAR, hand over our phone communications and Twitter "PRIVATE" emails, and put a darn CAMERA in the BATHROOM under the toilet to see if we're SPILLING any liquids that the government could tax. Pisses me off (no pun intended).
QuoteThis is a result of a power hungry government (ours) circling the wagons to protect itself by attacking the messenger. They got caught saying a bunch of things it wanted hidden. I think ALL should be revealed and not hidden.
If some diplomat says that another country or leader is an idiot, it should be publicized. Why hidden? Be honest and dont say what you arent willing to stand behind.
QuoteThe more that comes out about our government's backdoor dirty dealing, the better. That B/S about National Security is just that, B/S. They throw that word around any time they want to pull something over the public's eyes, and the neo-nazi right-wing in this country fall for it every time. Why, because most of them originate from the South, where their ancestors thought that they were fighting a NOBLE cause in preserving Slavery.
QuoteRelease the ufo files while u still have the chance omg... for once do the most patriotic thing anyone has done in this country... give everyone the truth
xrofl xrofl xrofl
QuoteAssange you are real democrat. It is not the Govt. but the Govt's. run by idiotic people try to revenge you.
You are in our hearts for ever. You could have blown the lid off their money hidden everywhere too.Could that happen even now????
Assange my HERO!
QuoteIf Iran wanted the twitter account of a Terrorist the US and UK would protect him as guest of honor. And you are not even ashamed of doing this under the sun. Because you have become drunk of ill-gotten wealth from slave labour and bullying of smaller nations. We need more leaks!
Nastavak iste priče:
U.S. orders Twitter to hand over WikiLeaks records (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20110108/tts-uk-wikileaks-twitter-ca02f96.html)
QuoteA U.S. court has ordered Twitter to hand over details of the accounts of WikiLeaks and several supporters as part of a criminal investigation into the release of hundreds of thousands of confidential documents. Skip related content
The December 14 subpoena obtained by the U.S. Department of Justice and published by online magazine Salon.com on Friday said the records sought from the microblogging website were "relevant to an ongoing criminal investigation."
It ordered Twitter to provide account information on WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and Bradley Manning, the U.S. Army intelligence analyst suspected of leaking Pentagon documents made public last year by WikiLeaks.
The information sought by the government includes all connection records and session times, IP addresses used to access Twitter, email and residential addresses plus billing records and details of bank accounts and credit cards.
The subpoena included the accounts of WikiLeaks supporters Jacob Appelbaum, Rop Gonggrijp and Birgitta Jonsdottir, a former WikiLeaks volunteer and member of Iceland's parliament.
"WikiLeaks strongly condemns this harassment of individuals by the U.S. government," WikiLeaks said in a statement issued to Reuters by its London lawyer, Mark Stephens.
Iceland's Foreign Minister Ossur Skarphedinsson told Icelandic media on Saturday his government planned to lodge a protest on Monday with the U.S. ambassador in Reykjavik.
Speaking on state radio, Skarphedinsson said the U.S. authorities' behaviour was unacceptable and his government would do everything in its power to protect Jonsdottir.
The U.S. government is examining whether criminal charges can be brought against Assange for helping to make public hundreds of thousands of confidential U.S. diplomatic cables that embarrassed Washington and several of its allies.
WikiLeaks said three of the four individuals targeted by the U.S. Department of Justice had never worked for WikiLeaks and were private citizens who supported its public disclosure work voluntarily as activists or politicians.
Two of them were instrumental in helping WikiLeaks make public the Pentagon video that showed a U.S. helicopter crew firing on Iraqi civilians, the statement said. WikiLeaks is instructing its U.S. lawyers to oppose the subpoena, he added.
Jonsdottir, a member of Iceland's foreign relations committee wrote on Twitter that she was seeking legal advice and had spoken to Iceland's minister of justice, who was looking into the case.
Speaking to Sky News on the telephone from Reykjavik, she said the U.S.'s actions were outrageous.
"I have not conducted any criminal activity. I find it to be troublesome because the vice president of the United States has labelled WikiLeaks as a cyber-terrorist organisation," she said.
The subpoena gave Twitter Inc three days to provide the records and ordered the San Francisco-based company not to inform the users under investigation.
A federal judge unsealed the order on January 5 after Twitter requested the right to inform the people involved.
A Twitter spokesperson declined to comment on the subpoena but added: "To help users protect their rights, it is our policy to notify users about law enforcement and governmental requests for their information, unless we are prevented by law from doing so."
In its statement, WikiLeaks said the legal step taken by Twitter had made public the existence of a criminal investigation by the U.S. government into the website's work.
WikiLeaks called on Facebook and Google to unseal any similar subpoenas requesting information about its operations.
Stephens said the subpoena showed that the U.S. authorities were having difficulty putting together a case "criminalizing the actions of a journalistic source" as they try to identify the source of the leaked documents.
"What they are trying to do is hoover data up to see if anything can identify the source," the lawyer told Reuters.
Washington has accused WikiLeaks of acting without regard for the safety of those named in classified cables containing candid remarks about foreign leaders and governments.
The State Department said on Friday it has warned several hundred people worldwide it believes may be imperilled and has helped a handful relocate to safer places.
Link to subpoena: http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/07/twitter/subpoena.pdf (http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/01/07/twitter/subpoena.pdf)
(Writing by Anthony Boadle, reporting by Stefano Ambrogi in London and Dan Whitcomb in Los Angeles and Omar Valdimarsson in Reykjavik; Editing by Paul Simao)
Jel' te to iznenađuje demokratija?
Sigurno si me pomešao sa nekim.
Jesam. Ja uvek pomešam nekoga sa nekim.
Mora da se meša, da ne zagori, poštujem.
A u SAD covek uze pistolj i krene da puca! Ubije gomilu ljudi! I pritom upuca senatorku point blank execution style u glavu ... A ova prezivi!
Veliki, veliki narod!
Po onome sto sam procitao mislim da imamo novog heroja xcheers
Oklahoma was only the beginning...
Posle Tom Sojera i Haklberi Fin 'zaglavio' u novim američkim izdanjima. Po izbacivanju iz programa većine US škola zbog manjka 'političke korektnosti', srednji put je nađen u prepravljanju iz 'crnac' u 'rob'. Ponosnije zvuči, šta već...
Klemense, Klemense, đubre ono jedno!
'nigger' nije 'crnac', bliže bi bilo 'čamuga'.
Ali da, 'ispravljanje' je idiotsko.
http://blog.bookviewcafe.com/2011/01/08/everything-old-is-new-again/ (http://blog.bookviewcafe.com/2011/01/08/everything-old-is-new-again/)
"Nigger" jeste u početku označavalo crnca, i to ne u pežorativnom smislu. Naravno, davno se to uvrištalo, već početkom 17. veka taj pojam se koristi isključivo za robove.
"Negro" je označavalo crnca. "Nigger" je uvek služio za nipodaštavanje.
Šta ćemo sa rekom Niger i sa Nigerijom?
Potpuno je nebitno kako se kad ko robom nazivao. Menjati Tvena je kao belilom prepravljati fotografije.
Vikipedija kaže da je reka Niger dobila takvo ime najverovatnije zbog toga što se reč "niger" nalazi u nazivu "egerew nigerewen" koji su Tuarezi koristili za reku, a pošto "niger" znači "crno" na latinskom, došlo se do zgodnog imena za reku.
Vikipedija takođe kaže da reč "nigger" nije baš uvek bila korišćena za nipodaštavanje. Otprilike kao da kažeš za čoveka da je stoka, ali to nije nipodaštavanje ako je čovek za tebe zaista stoka, pa kad osloviš svog roba sa nigger ispada da si mu tepao "magare moje malo". Po meni tu imamo grešku u rasuđivanju, pa kad se pođe od pogrešne premise da čovek nije čovek nego stoka, vrlo lako može da se dođe do pogrešnog zaključka da reč nigger ne služi za nipodaštavanje.
Quote from: Steva Lazin Ljuštikin on 14-01-2011, 00:49:46
Potpuno je nebitno kako se kad ko robom nazivao. Menjati Tvena je kao belilom prepravljati fotografije.
Baš to. To bi bilo kao kad bi mi Srbi, u svetlu Šeherezade i dobrih odnosa sa Turskom, nazvali dahije "policijskim režimom" a Seču knezova "politički motivisanim ubistvima."
Quote from: mac on 14-01-2011, 01:15:36
Vikipedija kaže da je reka Niger dobila takvo ime najverovatnije zbog toga što se reč "niger" nalazi u nazivu "egerew nigerewen" koji su Tuarezi koristili za reku, a pošto "niger" znači "crno" na latinskom, došlo se do zgodnog imena za reku.
Vikipedija takođe kaže da reč "nigger" nije baš uvek bila korišćena za nipodaštavanje. Otprilike kao da kažeš za čoveka da je stoka, ali to nije nipodaštavanje ako je čovek za tebe zaista stoka, pa kad osloviš svog roba sa nigger ispada da si mu tepao "magare moje malo". Po meni tu imamo grešku u rasuđivanju, pa kad se pođe od pogrešne premise da čovek nije čovek nego stoka, vrlo lako može da se dođe do pogrešnog zaključka da reč nigger ne služi za nipodaštavanje.
Hm, zašto je onda guverner Lujzijane Erl Long koristio pojam "nigger" dok je zagovarao puna glasačka prava za crnce? Teško da ih je on smatrao stokom.
Kako izgleda slomljen covek:
Michael Richards ("Kramer") Apologizes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3l-gRHjUNk#)
Nekako, kad se veliki deo standup rutine odnosi na politički nekorektan humor, valjda je logično i da se ovakvi incidenti događaju...
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 15-01-2011, 15:43:36
Nekako, kad se veliki deo standup rutine odnosi na politički nekorektan humor, valjda je logično i da se ovakvi incidenti događaju...
Naravno...
Doug Stanhope - Fuck the Jews (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAVyiJ1SINE#ws)
:-)
Da li je ovde već neko pojašnjavao kako USA planira da sudi Asanžu zbog izdaje? Ja sam zadivljena. :cry:
kad se setim da sam iskreno verovala da će obama ukinuti patriot act u prvih 100 dana vladavine :cry: :
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/obama-seeks-longer-patriot-act-extension-republicans/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/obama-seeks-longer-patriot-act-extension-republicans/)
побогу лилит, па на основу чега!?
па јбг ваљда сам била млада и наивна. :lol:
To je priča o dobrim namerama. Dok ti "asfaltiraju" put stižeš pravo u pakao.
Uf... Obama je bio takav projekat da sam spreman da ostavim tri tačke na koncu...
Nastićima vraćena deca, posle višemesečne drame... Sve zbog snimka, fotografije u laptopu, deca su čak bila izmeštena u hraniteljsku porodicu. Sad su konačno ponovo sa roditeljima.
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Baš su šašavi ti Amerikanci:
Ind. eatery pulls billboards with cult references (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110222/ap_on_fe_st/us_odd_billboard_flap_jonestown_3)
QuoteSOUTH BEND, Ind. – A northern Indiana restaurant that erected billboards referring to the 1978 Jonestown cult massacre in which more than 900 people died has removed the signs following complaints that the signs were offensive.
Jeff Leslie, vice president of sales and marketing at Hacienda, acknowledged that the billboards were a mistake. He said the South Bend-based company ordered the signs removed less than two weeks into Hacienda's new advertising campaign.
"Our role is not to be controversial or even edgy. We want to be noticed -- and there's a difference," Leslie told the South Bend Tribune. "We have a responsibility to (advertise) with care, and that's why we're pulling this ad. We made a mistake and don't want to have a negative image in the community."
The billboards included the statement, "We're like a cult with better Kool-Aid," over a glass containing a mixed drink, as well as the phrase "To die for!"
In November 1978, more than 900 members of Jim Jones' People's Temple drank cyanide-laced, grape-flavored punch in a mass murder and suicide in the group's compound in Guyana.
Patricia Barbera-Brown of South Bend, who lives a few blocks away from one of the billboards, said she was so shocked when she initially read the message that she drove around the block.
"I thought perhaps I had misread the sign," she recalls. "It brought back quite a few horrible images and memories, and the very notion that a local restaurant would trivialize such a worldwide tragedy to simply increase their sales of cocktails is outrageous to me, and it offended me to the core."
She sent an e-mail to Hacienda's executive telling them the billboards weren't "funny at all," calling them "extremely offensive and very irresponsible marketing."
Hacienda executives responded in writing, apologizing for offending her and informing her that the billboards would be taken down.
Like many restaurant companies, Leslie said Hacienda uses billboard advertising to connect with the community and resonate with customers. He said that company leaders look every year at their restaurants, the economy, their customers, and the competition to determine an idea or theme to use for advertising.
As they brainstormed about how people belong to clubs and teams, he said they discussed how an entity can develop a cult following of like-minded people.
"It went the wrong direction, hit a nerve, and we have come to realize we should not have done this billboard. We lose the core message," he said.
Katherine Sredl, assistant professor of marketing at the Mendoza College of Business at the University of Notre Dame, agreed that the company's message came across wrong.
"They want people to think there are more things to love there than the food, but it's not the right humor for its clientele," she said.
Evo i sličice, da bude jasno da nije u pitanju neka suptilna, nadž-nadž referenca:
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Zavukla ga baba Amerikancima. Ili tako nešto:
Indigenous Ecuadoran woman humbles US oil giant (//http://)
Quoteby Valeria Pacheco Valeria Pacheco – Wed Feb 23, 9:09 am ET
RUMIPAMBA, Ecuador (AFP) – She has no legal training, and doesn't speak the Spanish that dominates government in Quito but indigenous villager Maria Aguinda helped bring a landmark judgment against US oil giant Chevron for polluting the rain forest she calls home.
The diminutive grandmother whose modest home sits near marshes clogged for decades in sticky oil has been at the heart of the David-and-Goliath case, and spoke out after Chevron was slapped last week with a $9.5-billion fine, among the heaviest ever handed down for environmental damage.
"Before I die they have to pay me for the dead animals, and for what they did to the river, and the water and the earth," the 61-year-old Aguinda told AFP at her home in Rumipamba, a town in remote Orellana province where pollution caused by 30 years of oil drilling and petroleum accidents had become a sad fact of life.
Texaco operated in the area between 1964 and 1990, and was bought in 2001 by Chevron, which inherited Texaco's legal nightmare.
"The demand (for compensation) is going on track," said the ethnic Quechua woman, pointing to a nearby spot marked by spillage from an oil well run by Texaco in the 1970s.
"Mary Aguinda et al" are the opening words of the suit launched in 1993 on behalf of 30,000 residents of Orellana and Sucumbios provinces, in which they charge Texaco dumped billions of gallons of toxic crude during its operations, fouling rivers, lakes and soil and causing cancer deaths in indigenous communities.
Aguinda said she believes her husband and two of his 10 children died from effects of the pollution, which rights group Amazon Watch says has affected an area the size of the US state of Rhode Island.
Several of her family members "have skin problems, like fungus," Aguinda said as she lifted her granddaughter's foot off the dirt floor to show an outbreak on her leg.
Chevron blames state-run Petroecuador, with which Texaco formed a consortium from 1972 until the US firm departed in 1992, of not doing its part in the clean-up agreed with the state.
"When Texaco came we never thought they would leave behind such damage, never. Then it began to drill a well and set up burn pits," she said, helped in translation by her son William Grefa.
"It changed our life: hunting, fishing, and other food, it's all finished."
She skeptically eyes the ongoing cleanup of a marsh just meters from her house, where workers dressed in oil-stained yellow overalls dredge thick black ooze into suction pipes.
Aguinda said the spill is leftover from a Texaco storage pool which overflowed into the marshes during 1987-1990 operations of the Auca South 1 well about 200 meters (656 feet) from Rumipamba.
Texaco performed operational repairs in the area in the 1990s, and oil extraction continues in the region, according to Grefa.
Six months ago, a dozen workers from Petroecuador, which has managed the concession since 1990, began cleaning up the marshes, reviving bitter memories within the community of the slow-motion disaster.
The company "made arrangements, but they covered everything with sticks and earth and nothing more," said Grefa, a member of the Assembly of People Affected by Texaco, which represents the 30,000 indigenous people in the suit.
The operation has done little to improve conditions, Aguinda said.
"With the cleanup that Texaco left, the air is just unbearable. I can't live above the oil," groaned Aguinda, who grew visibly irritated talking about the disaster.
"If someone comes here from Texaco" he'll get "pepper in his eyes," she winced.
A strong petroleum smell permeates Rumipamba, home to nine families, some of whom complain of headaches. Several areas of Sucumbios are also contaminated, according to the plaintiffs, who argue that merely sinking a shovel into the ground yields a thick layer of crude.
Chevron, which has called the judgment "illegitimate and unenforceable," has asked a judge in Ecuador for clarification of the ruling as it seeks to appeal.
The court last week announced a penalty against Chevron of $8.6 billion with an additional 10 percent for environment management costs.
The plaintiffs, too, plan to appeal, saying the ruling fails to adequately compensate for certain damages and illness. They were seeking more than $27 billion in their suit.
Da čovek suzu iz oka otre...
Dok bude bibera biće i suza.
Jedan zanimljiv tekst:
Porter Stansberi, vlasnik firme Stansberry & Associates Investment Research, izneo je prilično sumorne prognoze kada je u pitanju ekonomska situacija u Sjedinjenim Državama. Ne samo da će Ameriku pogoditi još žešća kriza od one 2008, tvrdi on, već pominje i inflaciju nezapamćenih razmera. Dolar će, prema njegovim kalkulacijama, doživeti sunovrat kakav poslednjih decenija pamti jedino - jugoslovenski dinar...
http://www.balkanmagazin.net/kolumna/novosti_i_politika/amerika_propada_po_jugoslovenskom_modelu.xhtml (http://www.balkanmagazin.net/kolumna/novosti_i_politika/amerika_propada_po_jugoslovenskom_modelu.xhtml)
Američki bivši bolničar putem Interneta nagovarao ljude na samoubistvo. Uspešno.
Ex Nurse Talked Brit Into Suicide For Web Thrill (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20110316/tuk-ex-nurse-talked-brit-into-suicide-fo-45dbed5.html)
QuoteA former US nurse who used internet chat rooms to urge depressed people to kill themselves incited two suicides - including a British man. Skip related content
William Melchart-Dinkel surfed the internet posing as a depressed woman planning her own death and looking for others who might want to form a suicide pact.
He took part in online chats about suicide with up to 20 people and entered into fake suicide pacts with about 10, five of whom he believed killed themselves.
Among those he contacted was Mark Drybrough, 32, from Coventry, who hanged himself in 2005.
Nadia Kajouji, 18, of Ottawa, Canada, jumped into a river in 2008 wearing ice skates.
Her body was found more than a month after she was reported missing.
Ms Kajouji had told Melchert-Dinkel in an online chat of her plan to make her death appear like an accident.
The 48-year-old, who was charged in April with two counts of aiding suicide, had declined a jury trial and was found guilty by a judge in Faribault, Minnesota.
Lawyer Paul Beaumaster said Melchert-Dinkel told police he did it for the "thrill of the chase". After the verdict, Beaumaster said: "I think justice was served."
The judge said: "The defendant never tried to discourage either victim from committing death by suicide.
"Rather, the facts indicate repeated and relentless encouragement by defendant to complete the suicide."
A British woman who used a chatroom where people discussed suicidal thoughts warned Minnesota police in March 2008 that she suspected an online predator of encouraging suicides.
She later said she suspected Melchert-Dinkel.
A police investigation found emails from at least six others who had been advised by him on how to commit suicide by hanging, including tips on knot-tying.
Melchert-Dinkel asked one potential victim to use a webcam to record her hanging and told a man to practice beforehand to ensure a successful hanging.
His lawyers accepted his actions were "sick" and "abhorrent" but argued the victims were predisposed to committing suicide and their client didn't sway them by making statements online.
He faces up to 30 years in prison when sentenced on May 4.
Naravno sociopatija je postojala i pre Interneta, on joj je samo dao novi kanal za ispoljavanje...
Idiotluk je američko bogatstvo.
NJEMAČKI tjednik Der Spiegel objavio je šokantne fotografije američkih vojnika koji su pozirali s tijelima ubijenih civila u Afganistanu. Nakon što je Der Spiegel objavio fotografije, iz američke vojske izdana je isprika. Ipak NATO strahuje da bi reakcije iz Afganistana mogle biti nasilne.
Na fotografijama se nalazi američki vojnici koji su već osumnjičeni za nekoliko stravičnih ubojstava civila u Afganistanu i kojima bi uskoro trebalo početi suđenje. "Ove su fotografije čista suprotnost disciplini, profesionalizmu i poštovanju koji karakteriziraju našu vojsku tijekom deset godina operacija u Afganistanu", poručila je američka vojska u izjavi za javnost.
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Da, to sam juče čitao u Politici. Skaredno i skandalozno.
Ne vidim šta je toliko skandalozno. Pa pokrili su intimne dijelove tijela.
Quote"Ove su fotografije identične disciplini, profesionalizmu i poštovanju koji karakteriziraju našu vojsku tijekom deset godina operacija u Afganistanu"
Potpisujem.
Kako par fotki može da ubije veru u ljudskost.
Samo ako je uopšte imaš.
Držim se, mada ne još dugo.
Kao što znate, Bata je u filmu KRAJ RATA pribavio jednu takvu fotku i onda pobio sve koji su se slikali pored žrtve. Bata ima odgovor za sve.
Quote from: D. on 23-03-2011, 16:19:39
Držim se, mada ne još dugo.
Pa, bilo bi strašno živeti u društvu u kome niko nema veru u ljudskost. Društvo samih nihilista bi bilo nepodnošljivo dosadno.
Quote from: Bata Trokrilni on 23-03-2011, 16:33:43
Kao što znate, Bata je u filmu KRAJ RATA pribavio jednu takvu fotku i onda pobio sve koji su se slikali pored žrtve. Bata ima odgovor za sve.
Eh... umetnost, eto, ume da zaleči i najstrašniju ranu koju život nanese.
Jutros sam, uz kafu, čitao kolumnu Boba Herberta u NYT i navodim uvodne rečenice:
So here we are pouring shiploads of cash into yet another war, this time in Libya, while simultaneously demolishing school budgets, closing libraries, laying off teachers and police officers, and generally letting the bottom fall out of the quality of life here at home.
Ima i zanimljiv citat Artura Milera, koji je, opet, parafrazirao nekog drugog: Essence of America was its promises.
Raduje me što tamo neko ipak misli, a neko te misli i objavljuje, ali tome neće pridati značaja niko od onih kojima se kolumna obraća.
Zapravo, politika SAD me sve više podseća na seriju SG Atlantis i kako Wraith "žanju" po svemiru. Da ne žanju crkli bi. Možda je to odgovor Bobu Herbertu.
Ehhh, Ameriko... Čovek više ni u kurvanje ne može da krene... odmah mu se sete da je pre više od dve decenije jednom malo popio pre nego što je seo za volan...
Obama friend arrested for soliciting prostitute (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110407/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_friend_arrest)
QuoteBy JAYMES SONG, Associated Press Jaymes Song, Associated Press – 2 hrs 6 mins ago
HONOLULU – One of President Barack Obama's close friends has been arrested in Honolulu on suspicion of soliciting a prostitute.
Robert "Bobby" Titcomb was one of four men arrested in an undercover sting operation late Monday and later released on $500 bail, according to Honolulu police.
Titcomb, 49, attended Punahou School in Honolulu with Obama in the 1970s. The president graduated in 1979, a year before Titcomb. The two often play golf and basketball, go to the beach and dine together when the president returns home to Hawaii for vacation.
Obama's family has also attended barbeques at Titcomb's beachside home in Waialua, located on Oahu's North Shore about an hour outside of downtown Honolulu.
Titcomb and Obama last spent time together in Hawaii during Obama's most recent vacation over the Christmas and New Year's holidays.
The White House had no comment. Titcomb has not publicly responded to the charges, and he wasn't immediately available for comment.
Police said Titcomb was arrested at 9:40 p.m. Monday near downtown at the intersection of South and Pohukaina streets, which is next to the Circuit Court building and a large parking lot. He posted bail about two hours later.
Titcomb has worked as a commercial fisherman and an airline employee, according to the spring 2007 edition of the "Punahou Bulletin," the school's alumni magazine.
In 1987, he was arrested on drunken driving charges, which led to the 90-day suspension of his license and a $150 fine, according to state criminal records.
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AP writers Jennifer Kelleher and Audrey McAvoy contributed to this report.
Eh, Meho, da smo nas dvojica neka muda i nas bi za njih hvatali.
Živa istina. Ovaj i nije neko mudo (profesionalni ribar???) ali, eto, išo u školu sa Obamom...
... a Obama mu dolazio na ćevape i pljeske.
Lik se preziva TITKOMB? Je li ovo neka šala?
I ja sam to primetio, ali me je sramota da pokazujem prstom. :mrgreen:
Mene nije :evil:
Uobičajeno. :lol:
Kad smo već kod ivice propasti:
White House says shutdown will delay pay to troops (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_government_shutdown)
QuoteBy RICHARD LARDNER and JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Richard Lardner And Jim Kuhnhenn, Associated Press – Thu Apr 7, 12:33 am ET
WASHINGTON – The Obama administration warned Wednesday that a federal shutdown would undermine the economic recovery, delay pay to U.S. troops fighting in three wars, slow the processing of tax returns and limit small business loans and government-backed mortgages during peak home buying season.
The dire message, delivered two days before the federal government's spending authority expires, appeared aimed at jolting congressional Republicans into a budget compromise. Billions of dollars apart, congressional negotiators were working to strike a deal by Friday to avert a shutdown by setting spending limits through the end of September. The last such shutdown took place 15 years ago and lasted 21 days.
President Barack Obama telephoned House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday, and Boehner's office said the speaker told Obama he was hopeful a deal could be reached.
As the talks continued, the White House sought to put the prospect of a shutdown in terms people would care about, warning even that the beloved National Cherry Blossom Festival Parade in the nation's capital would be wiped out. The Smithsonian Institution and national parks around the country would also be closed.
A shutdown would come at an especially busy time for the Smithsonian. The Cherry Blossom Festival, which concludes this weekend, draws many tourists to an area near the museums. The Smithsonian counts about 3 million visits each April and has already sold 23,000 IMAX movie and lunch combos to school groups for the month.
Under long-standing federal rules, agencies would not be affected that provide for U.S. national security, dispense most types of federal benefit payments, offer inpatient medical care or outpatient emergency care, ensure the safe use of food and drugs, manage air traffic, protect and monitor borders and coastlines, guard prisoners, conduct criminal investigations and law enforcement, oversee power distribution and oversee banks.
Mail deliveries would continue in the event of a shutdown. U.S. postal operations are not subsidized by tax dollars.
According to the shutdown scenario described by the administration, the government would have to significantly cut staffing across the executive branch, including workers at the White House and civilian employees at the Defense Department; close to 800,000 workers would be affected. Congress and the federal court system will also be subject to a shutdown.
At the Pentagon, defense officials were finalizing plans that would lay out how the department would deal with a shutdown. But they already have acknowledged that U.S. military troops — including those in war zones — would receive one week's pay instead of two in their next paycheck if the government were to close.
Military personnel at home and abroad would continue to earn pay, but they wouldn't get paychecks until there was a budget agreement and government operations resumed.
Col. Dave Lapan, a Pentagon spokesman, said that the Pentagon would be open on Monday and would be staffed. He said decisions on which Defense Department employees must report to work would depend on their jobs, rather than where they were based.
Key national security responsibilities, including operations in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and earthquake assistance to Japan, would not be interrupted by a shutdown, the Pentagon said.
The CIA also would not close, though it would be drawing down some nonessential personnel to be in compliance with federal law, according to a senior intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss matters of intelligence.
Officials familiar with the shutdown say essential counterterrorism functions in other parts of the intelligence community would continue, like monitoring of the terrorist watch lists and essential intelligence collection and analysis.
In the event of a shutdown, the Justice Department said it would be forced to stop or significantly curtail most civil litigation, community outreach to victims of crime and the processing of grants.
But other Justice Department functions would continue, including efforts to combat drug trafficking and gun violence. All 116 federal prisons would remain open and prison staff would continue to work. At the department's headquarters and in U.S. Attorneys offices, all criminal cases would continue without interruption.
At the Internal Revenue Service, the tax filing deadline remained April 18 — delayed three days because of a local holiday in Washington. Tax audits, however, would be suspended if there were a shutdown.
The IRS wouldn't process paper returns during a shutdown. Those expecting a refund should file their returns electronically and ask that the money be deposited directly into their bank accounts. Tax payments were welcome, though it was still unclear whether help lines for taxpayers would be staffed.
Social Security payments would continue to be delivered, and applications for benefits would continue to be processed, Social Security Commissioner Michael Astrue said.
Astrue said Social Security headquarters and regional offices would be closed. Some limited services would still be available at field offices, but the details were still being worked out, he said.
Medicare would still pay medical claims for its 48 million recipients, who are mainly seniors but also several million younger people who are permanently disabled or have kidney failure. Payments to doctors, hospitals and other service providers could be delayed, however, should a shutdown continue for several months.
At the National Institutes of Health, groundbreaking medical research would experience a disruption. Patients already being treated at the NIH's famed hospital in Bethesda, Md., would continue to get that care, but new patients could not be admitted. Likewise, no new studies of drugs or other treatments could begin.
The Federal Housing Administration, which guarantees about 30 percent of home mortgages, would stop guaranteeing loans. The issuance of government backed loans to small businesses would be suspended, according to the White House.
The Obama administration said the impact on the housing market would be more severe than in 1995, the last time there was a government shutdown. The Federal Housing Administration accounts for 30 percent of the mortgage market, nearly three times the amount 16 years ago.
The nation's 15,700 air traffic controllers would keep working, as would many of the Federal Aviation Administration's 6,100 technicians who install and maintain the equipment for the nation's air traffic control system.
FAA inspectors who oversee airlines' compliance with safety regulations probably would continue to be at work. But it was unclear Wednesday whether the safety inspectors assigned to aircraft manufacturers would be told to stay on the job. Support personnel at the agency would be told to stay home.
Almost all of the Federal Transit Administration would close and that means local transit agencies would have to wait longer to get federal aid. Most of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which issues auto recalls and makes grants to states for safety campaigns, would also close.
Operation of the International Space Station would be unaffected. NASA's Mission Control in Houston would continue to work around the clock to keep watch.
But it was unclear what impact there might be on preparations for the final two space shuttle missions, said NASA spokesman Bob Jacobs. Endeavour is due to lift off April 29, Atlantis on June 28.
Among other consequences cited by the administration:
_The Environmental Protection Agency would cease issuing permits and stop reviewing environmental impact statements, which would slow the approval of projects.
_Most government websites would not be updated, unless they were deemed essential.
_Federal courts would be unable to hear cases as clerks, stenographers, bailiffs, security guards and other employees would not be at work.
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Associated Press writers Lolita C. Baldor, Anne Gearan, Joan Lowy, Lauran Neergaard, Stephen Ohlemacher, Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar and Brett Zongker in Washington and Marcia Dunn in Cape Canaveral, Fla., contributed to this report.
Calif. mother of 3 recounts life as an 'outlaw' (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110407/ap_on_en_ot/us_fugitive_mom)
QuoteBy MIKE HOUSEHOLDER, Associated Press Mike Householder, Associated Press – Thu Apr 7, 7:54 am ET
DETROIT – Marie Walsh says she was in prison for a drug crime she didn't commit, facing regular taunts and threats from inmates and guards, when her grandfather came to visit her and told her she had to get out.
Her subsequent escape from a Michigan prison and the comfortable life she built afterward — raising three children with a husband who didn't know she was a fugitive until officers arrived at their upscale Southern California home three decades later — are recounted in her new book, "A Tale of Two Lives."
Walsh had served 14 months of a 10-year prison sentence for a heroin deal when she fled in 1976. Her new life on the West Coast was uprooted in April 2008, when federal marshals handcuffed her.
The book is "about my odyssey through the system from a teenager who got on the wrong path," Walsh told The Associated Press in a phone interview from her home in San Diego, where she lives with her husband of more than 20 years. "Escaped it for a while and built a life against the odds ... and was snatched away from it."
Walsh is talking about her past after spending 13 more months in prison. Her book recounts her time in prison and lying to the people she loved most.
Walsh was known as Susan LeFevre when she says her grandfather showed up at the Detroit House of Corrections and told her, "Susan, you need to get out of here."
She wrote that she thought: "What planet am I on? Had I really just heard my grandfather tell me to escape from prison?"
To break free, she scaled a 20-foot, barbed-wire fence at the prison known as DeHoCo. Once on the other side, she began running.
"If they shot at me, I wanted them to kill me. I was not going back," Walsh wrote.
Her grandfather was waiting for her in his Cutlass. With a search helicopter hovering nearby, they headed to his home in New Baltimore, Mich. Her mother gave her a few hundred dollars, she said her goodbyes to family members and caught a ride with friends to the West Coast.
"Somewhere between the cornfields of the Midwest and the western Rockies, Susan ceased to exist," she wrote.
Once in California, she used her middle name — Marie — and took the last name Day. She worked odd jobs, kept out of trouble and tried to stay under the radar.
"I was no longer a party girl struggling through college classes. I was a fugitive from the law. ... I had no illusions. I was an outlaw. Yet that jump over the prison fence was a leap toward new possibilities," she wrote.
She eventually met and married Alan Walsh, a financial executive with a trash company, and the couple had three children, now ages 18, 23 and 25. But she chose not to tell any of them about her past — even when her mother died.
In the book, Walsh describes going with her husband to her parents' home in Saginaw, Mich., to say their goodbyes just before her mother's 2004 death. She told her husband they wouldn't be going to the funeral.
Walsh recalled him asking her: "What kind of person doesn't go to her own mother's funeral?"
She wrote that she thought at the time: "The kind of person who has never told you the secret of her past."
She also recounts in the book how the past came crashing into the present. She wrote that a federal marshal called her, pretending to be a landscaper and telling her he'd accidentally cut a palm frond that fell onto one her plants. When she went outside, he pulled out a badge and asked if she was Susan LeFevre.
"I am Marie Walsh," Walsh told him, according to the book. Then he showed Walsh her mugshot from the 1970s.
Walsh called her husband and was escorted to a car where she was handcuffed.
Walsh said he wasn't completely shocked because she had told him she "had a dark past" that involved drugs. It was her three children, she said, who were most lost.
"They thought they knew the world and knew their lives, and then all of a sudden their lives kind of exploded," Walsh told the AP.
Walsh said she wrote her book in part to open readers' eyes to what she calls America's misguided war on drugs and the harsh treatment that she and her fellow inmates endured. An interview on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" was scheduled to air Thursday.
Once she's done promoting the book, Walsh said she hopes to slip back into her life as it was — minus the need to hide her past.
"For the most part, I am doing well in my transition to a normal life," she wrote. "My friends remark that I seem unchanged. ... Then when I least expect it, there are moments that I feel a deep sense of loss or sadness."
Ko zna šta kriju biografije domaćica iz našeg komšiluka...
Obalamina administracija se izvukla za dlaku:
'Historic' deal to avoid government shutdown (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_us/us_spending_showdown)
QuoteBy DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special Correspondent – 9 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Perilously close to a government shutdown, President Barack Obama and congressional leaders reached a historic agreement late Friday night to cut about $38 billion in spending and avert the first federal closure in 15 years.
Obama hailed the deal as "the biggest annual spending cut in history." House Speaker John Boehner said that over the next decade it would cut government spending by $500 billion — and won an ovation from his rank and file, tea party adherents among them.
"This is historic, what we've done," agreed Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., the third man involved in negotiations that ratified a new era of divided government.
They announced the agreement less than an hour before government funding was due to run out, instantly turning hundreds of thousands of furlough notices for federal workers into historical relics.
The shutdown would have closed national parks, tax-season help lines and other popular services, though the military would have stayed on duty and other essential efforts such as air traffic control would have continued in effect.
On side issues — "riders," the negotiators called them — the Democrats and the White House rebuffed numerous Republican attempts to curtail the reach of the Environmental Protection Agency.
They also sidetracked their demand to deny federal funds to Planned Parenthood. Under the accord, the issue will come to a vote in the Senate under terms guaranteed to end in its defeat.
Anti-abortion lawmakers succeeded in winning a provision to ban the use of federal or local government funds to pay for abortions in the District of Columbia.
The long-term deal in hand, lawmakers raced to pass an interim measure to prevent a shutdown, however brief, and keep the federal machinery running for the next several days.The Senate acted within minutes, and even though it took the House longer. White House Budget Director Jacob Lew issued a directive saying that in view of the agreement, "agencies are instructed to continue their normal operations."
The deal came together after six grueling weeks and an outbreak of budget brinksmanship over the past few days as the two sides sought to squeeze every drop of advantage in private talks.
Despite the accomplishment, officials noted it marked only a first step. Republicans intend to pass a 2012 budget through the House next week that calls for sweeping changes in Medicare and Medicaid and would cut domestic programs deeply in an attempt to gain control over soaring deficits.
And the Treasury has told Congress it must vote to raise the debt limit by summer — a request that Republicans hope to use to force Obama to accept long-term deficit-reduction measures.
"We know the whole world is watching us today," Reid said earlier in a day that produced incendiary, campaign style rhetoric as well as intense negotiation.
Reid, Obama and Boehner all agreed a shutdown posed risks to an economy still recovering from the worst recession in decades.
But there were disagreements aplenty among the principal players in an early test of divided government — Obama in the White House, fellow Democrats in control in the Senate and a new, tea party-flavored Republican majority in the House.
"Republican leaders in the House have only a few hours left to look in the mirror, snap out of it and realize how positively shameful that would be," Reid said at one point, accusing Republicans of risking a shutdown to pursue a radical social agenda.
For much of the day, Reid and Boehner disagreed about what the disagreement was about.
Reid said there had been an agreement at a White House meeting Thursday night to cut spending by about $38 billion. He said Republicans also were demanding unspecified cuts in health services for lower income women that were unacceptable to Democrats.
"Republicans want to shut down our nation's government because they want to make it harder to get cancer screenings," he said. "They want to throw women under the bus."
Boehner said repeatedly that wasn't the case — it was spending cuts that divided two sides.
"Most of the policy issues have been dealt with, and the big fight is about spending," he said. "When will the White House and when will Senate Democrats get serious about cutting federal spending?"
By midday Friday, 12 hours before the funding would run out, most federal employees had been told whether they had been deemed essential or would be temporarily laid off in the event of a shutdown.
Obama canceled a Friday trip to Indianapolis — and a weekend family visit to Colonial Williamsburg in Virginia — and kept in touch with both Boehner and Reid.
The standoff began several weeks ago, when the new Republican majority in the House passed legislation to cut $61 billion from federal spending and place numerous curbs on the government.
In the weeks since, the two sides have alternately negotiated and taken time out to pass interim measures.
Originally, Republicans wanted to ban federal funds for Planned Parenthood, a health care services provider that is also the nation's largest provider of abortions.
Federal funds may not be used to pay for abortions except in strictly regulated cases, but supporters of the ban said cutting off government funds for the organization — currently about $330 million a year — would make it harder for it to use its own money for the same purpose.
Democrats rejected the proposal in private talks. Officials in both parties said Republicans returned earlier in the week with a proposal to distribute federal funds for family planning and related health services to the states, rather than directly to Planned Parenthood and other organizations.
Democrats said they rejected that proposal, as well, and then refused to agree to allow a separate Senate vote on the issue as part of debate over any compromise bill.
Instead, they launched a sustained campaign at both ends of the Capitol to criticize Republicans.
"We'll not allow them to use women as pawns," said Sen. Patty Murray, a fourth-term lawmaker from Washington who doubles as head of the Democratic senatorial campaign committee.
For Congress and Obama there are even tougher struggles still ahead — over a Republican budget that would remake entire federal programs, and a vote to raise the nation's debt limit.
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Associated Press writers Donna Cassata, Andrew Taylor, Alan Fram, Julie Pace and Ben Feller contributed to this report.
Isto ka i ođe...
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/08/california.dodgers.security/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/04/08/california.dodgers.security/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa made an emotional plea Friday asking the two men suspected in the recent brutal beating of a visiting San Francisco Giants fan after a Dodgers game to "turn themselves in."
Богати плачу, али не плаћају (http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Bogati-placu-ali-ne-placaju.sr.html)
Quote,,Џенерал електрик", највећа америчка корпорација, упркос профиту од 14,2 милијарде, држави неће дати ни долар пореза
Од нашег сталног дописника
Вашингтон – Енормни дефицит у каси америчке државе – око 1.600 милијарди долара у буџету за ову годину – постао је главна политичка тема, осветљавајући успут и неке парадоксе овдашњег фискалног система.
Једна од главних тачака спорења између Обамине Демократске партије и републиканске опозиције јесу порези, односно колико држави треба да се одужују они којима је систем омогућио да се обогате. Најбогатијих један одсто Американаца присваја, наиме, две трећине прихода од капиталне добити и дивиденди, главних извора њиховог богатства. То, међутим, није опорезовано као редован приход, већ по специјалној, повлашћеној стопи од само 15 одсто.
Последњих дана у фокусу је међутим један специјални случај који илуструје америчке реалности: ,,Џенерал електрик", највећа овдашња мултинационална корпорација (270.000 запослених широм света), која је у 2010. остварила глобални профит од 14,2 милијарде долара (од тога ,,код куће" 5,1 милијарду), на ово америчкој држави неће платити ни долара пореза!
Штавише, због губитака из ранијих година, од Службе унутрашњих прихода потражује повраћај од 3,2 милијарде.
Својеврсни скандал, лансиран најпре у ,,Њујорк тајмсу" (,,Вашингтон пост" је своју верзију овог случаја, на којој је радио ,,неколико месеци" објавио две недеље касније), тема је у свим медијима. Али упркос великом парадоксу, једна од главних чињеница јесте да ,,Џенерал електрик" није учинио ништа што је незаконито.
У питању је иначе корпорација која је значајан актер у историји америчког бизниса. Основао ју је још 1890. Томас Едисон, чувени изумитељ (и велики, научно инфериорнији, али пословно успешнији ривал Николе Тесле). Производи много тога, од сијалица, преко фрижидера, до авионских мотора и нуклеарних реактора. Пре овог пореског скандала, у вестима је била после земљотреса у Јапану и хаварије у тамошњој нуклеарној електрани Фукушима, чијих свих шест реактора носе ознаку ,,GE".
Није прекршен ниједан закон, али су искоришћене све законске кривине и рупе у пореским прописима. ,,Ми поштујемо закон, али у исто време имамо одговорност према својим акционарима да законски минимизирамо своје трошкове."
На том ,,законском минимизирању" ради пореско одељење ,,Џенерал електрика" са 975 људи, експерата за фискално законодавство, па се оно сматра и ,,најбољим пореским консултантом света". На челу му је Џон Самјуелс, бивши функционер Трежерија, америчког министарства финансија.
У овом случају није међутим само реч о поштовању закона – него и у њиховом формулисању у своју корист. У последњих 10 година ,,Џенерал електрик" је, према подацима овдашњег Центра за одговорну политику, потрошио више од 200 милиона долара за лобирање у Конгресу и његовим фискалним комитетима, да би испословао олакшице и прописе прилагодио себи.
Главни елеменат у пореској стратегији ове корпорације јесте регистрација многих делатности у ,,пореским рајевима" – не додуше острвима са егзотичним именима – већ у земљама са ниским корпоративним дажбинама, попут Ирске или Сингапура.
Ако се профит из тих земаља не враћа у САД, онда се и не опорезује. ,,Џенерал електрик" користи управо тај маневар, који није много ,,патриотски" – од 2002. корпорација је отпустила петину своје америчке радне снаге – али је профитабилан. Ово премештање пословања у ,,пореска склоништа" оправдава и неопходношћу да буде конкурентан са ,,Мицубишијем", ,,Сименсом" и ,,Филипсом" који су у истом бизнису на глобалном тржишту.
Сличну логику пословног интереса следе и други амерички мултинационалци, чији профити раст, упркос томе што америчкој економији у целини не иде баш најбоље. Да су интереси држава и корпорација различити, показује и чињеница да су до 2008, последње године за коју постоји детаљна статистика, ИБМ, ,,Катерпилар" и други у иностранству инвестирали 3.200 милијарди, док су њихови поменути инострани конкуренти у Америку унели 2.200.
Разлика је безмало сума америчког буџетског дефицита. Овај пример ће у сваком случају бити један од елемената предстојећих буџетских расправа у Вашингтону, при чему ће свакако бити контроверзна и чињеница да је Барак Обама за шефа свог Савета за запошљавање и конкурентност именовао баш Џефрија Имета, првог човека ,,Џенерал електрика" – и да после објаве своје кандидатуре за реизбор његови изасланици обилазе велике донаторе тражећи велике прилоге за његов изборни фонд.
,,И богати плачу", наслов је једне од некад популарних ТВ ,,сапуница". Стварност је нешто другачија: богати пре свега не плаћају, потврђујући старо правило да се богатство не ствара толико великим зарадама, колико малим трошковима.
Милан Мишић
објављено: 12.04.2011.
Капитал ће ускоро укинути политички систем. Шта ће им? Стално тражи неке паре, а не ради ништа. :evil:
Da mogu odavno bi ga ukinuli. Zapravo, u nekim državama u koje su autsorsovali rad, skoro i da jesu. Ima ona prilično dobro dokumentovana priča o Kokakoli u južnoj Americi...
И у Аустралији. Кока-Кола Кид.
Dok Amerika ne propadne, ima li koga da prokomentariše ovu mudrost:
Inflation endangers China's status as the low-cost workshop for the world and poses risks for companies and resource-rich countries that have been counting on it for growth.
Što je ekonomija jača to ljudi imaju više para, koje više troše, a zbog toga rastu i cene, i imaš inflaciju. Rešenje su veći porezi, i trošenje budžetskih para na infrastrukturu. Drugi izvor inflacije je prosto štampanje novca. I tada ljudi tehnički imaju više para, samo što te pare manje vrede.
Ili Kini samo nije u interesu da i dalje bude Zapadna uzdanica.
resource-rich countries = Avganistan
Obala slonovače (slonovača nije vrsta rakije!)
Mda, ko što ni kokošinjevača nije vrsta rakije.
$2M Michigan lottery winner defends use of food stamps (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_localdtw/20110518/ts_yblog_localdtw/2m-michigan-lottery-winner-defends-use-of-food-stamps)
QuoteBy Detroit News detroit News – Wed May 18, 1:27 pm ET
Ron French, Detroit News staff writer
A Michigan man who won $2 million in a state lottery game continues to collect food stamps 11 months after striking it rich.
And there's nothing the state can do about it, at least for now.
Leroy Fick, 59, of Auburn won $2 million in the state lottery TV show "Make Me Rich!" last June. But the state's Department of Human Services determined he was still eligible for food stamps, Fick's attorney, John Wilson of Midland, said Tuesday.
Eligibility for food stamps is based on gross income and follows federal guidelines; lottery winnings are considered liquid assets and don't count as income. As long as Fick's gross income stays below the eligibility requirement for food stamps, he can receive them, even if he has a million dollars in the bank.
Food stamps are paid for through tax dollars and are meant to help support low-income families.
"If you're going to try to make me feel bad, you're not going to do it," Fick told WNEM-TV in Saginaw on Monday.
Wilson said Fick told the DHS officials he'd won $2 million but was told he could keep using the Bridge Card issued to him to buy groceries.
Fick could not be reached for comment Tuesday.
Al Kimichik, director of the office of inspector general for DHS, said the department could not comment on individual cases but that it this week began the process of requesting a waiver from the federal government to close the lottery loophole. If it is granted, assets would be counted in determining food stamp eligibility.
Though the food stamp program is federal and states must follow U.S. guidelines, states sometimes request waivers of rules. Michigan was granted a waiver recently to stop college students from qualifying for food stamps.
"For Leroy Fick to continue to use a Bridge Card, paid for by the taxpayers, after winning the lottery, is obscene," said Sen. Rick Jones, R-Grand Ledge. "What a waste of taxpayer money."
Jones contacted DHS officials Monday about Fick's case, and was told the department's hands were tied by federal regulations.
"There is no liquid asset requirement for getting food stamps," Jones said. "The department is asking the federal government for an immediate change (in policy). They're hoping this case will help the federal government act."
Until then, Fick can collect food stamps and keep his lottery winnings in the bank.
"I am not going to sit and debate the ethics of this," Wilson said. "But from his standpoint, he did what he was supposed to do -- he informed the state, and the state said he could keep using the card. The problem is with the state."
Amerika je definitivno na ivici propasti! Maloprije su me posjetili Jehovini svjedoci i rekli mi da je U.S. and A. posljednje veliko carstvo i da ćemo mi biti generacija koja će da svjedoči njegovom padu. Dakle, ostaje im još maksimalno nekoliko decenija.
Nekoliko decenija...?
Mene brine da li će scallop da ''dobaci''... pa da vidi i to čudo 8-)
Nije baš lepo praviti takve komentare.
Zašto?
Pa ni za sebe ne znam da li ću da dobacim! Verovatno ne.
Smrt je prirodna pojava, ''posledica života''
Hoćeš da kažeš da je sramota umreti za par decenija.... eeeee, ja bih to voleo, evo, pristajem odmah xcheers
ja sam čuo da im na ljeto prijeti neki bankrot
kuku lele šta nam se sprema
Quote from: Harvester on 19-05-2011, 16:50:28
Amerika je definitivno na ivici propasti! Maloprije su me posjetili Jehovini svjedoci i rekli mi da je U.S. and A. posljednje veliko carstvo i da ćemo mi biti generacija koja će da svjedoči njegovom padu. Dakle, ostaje im još maksimalno nekoliko decenija.
Razmahali su se u poslednje vreme. Meni su pre neki dan neke dve raspale babe na ulici uvalile izdanje naslova "Kad će biti svet bez rata?", a zapravo je "Kula stražara", s tim da to nigde ne piše.
Naravno, svaki slobodan čovek zna kad će biti svet bez rata, kad padne Zapad, ali je malo bezveze čitati o tome uz sumanuta tumačenja Biblije i neke teško opisive rantove.
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to je zato što nemate ove naljepnice na vratima
Bravo!!!
Wow, volio bih da nabavim jednu takvu, naravno u pravoslavnoj verziji!
Mislim, nemam ništa ni protiv katoličke, al' bi odbila i pravoslavne sveštenike :evil:
Quote from: John Reynolds on 19-05-2011, 19:47:40
Quote from: Harvester on 19-05-2011, 16:50:28
Amerika je definitivno na ivici propasti! Maloprije su me posjetili Jehovini svjedoci i rekli mi da je U.S. and A. posljednje veliko carstvo i da ćemo mi biti generacija koja će da svjedoči njegovom padu. Dakle, ostaje im još maksimalno nekoliko decenija.
Razmahali su se u poslednje vreme. Meni su pre neki dan neke dve raspale babe na ulici uvalile izdanje naslova "Kad će biti svet bez rata?", a zapravo je "Kula stražara", s tim da to nigde ne piše.
Pa da, oni su veliki fanovi apokalipse (at least ONE thing we have in common, hehe...), omiljena knjiga im je Otkrovenje Jovanovo, tako da čim krene neka malo veća serija katastrofa kao npr. ova sad, odma' su oni tu da kažu "Aha, eve ga smak svijeta, samo što nije, vidite ove jade što se dešavaju, sve je to već prognozirano, zato odma pristupite našoj sekti..." itd.
Međutim, baš ću da pogledam ovo što su mi danas tutnuli, kažu ima precizan dokaz da je Amerika posljednje carstvo, pa baš da vidim... Mislim, oni su valjda "dokazali" i da se drugi Hristov dolazak već desio i to 1914., tako da bi ovo trebalo da bude interesantno :-) Samo se bojim da ne nastave da dolaze :-(
Mogao bi Skrob da im proda ovu novu antologiju Apokalipsa ;)
Ne vjerujem da bi pristali na to, ali vjerovatno ne bi odbili razmjenu tipa Apokalipsa antologija za jednu Kulu stražaru :-)
Kolko ima strana Kula straćara?
Trideset jednu!
Onda može 22 za 1 Apokalipsu!
Nemoj, molim te! Tako bi Straćara postala najčitanija.
Који су то несрећници, ономад ми је један дошао на врата и нудио хрпу књига, а све се своде на исто-САД су апокалиптично царство антихриста. (?!?) Још ми каже (као чудећи се) "не занима вас ово а правник сте". :shock:
Quote from: scallop on 20-05-2011, 08:57:23
Nemoj, molim te! Tako bi Straćara postala najčitanija.
Misliš da se Apokalipsa neće prodati u više od 20 primeraka?! Auu!!! :cry:
Ne, nego mislim da ako se proda u 1000 primeraka, biće to 20.000 straćara naokolo. Presektan ti je predlog.
US Senate and House vote to extend Patriot Act provisions; Obama expected to sign
http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/26/us-senate-approves-p.html (http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/26/us-senate-approves-p.html)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/house-passes-690-billion-defense-bill/2011/05/26/AGlPfKCH_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/house-passes-690-billion-defense-bill/2011/05/26/AGlPfKCH_story.html)
House passes $690 billion defense bill
Sad mogu da se brane. Još da nađu nekog novog da ih napadne... :x
Kad im splasne i taj balon...
QuoteIf you're going to get tanked today, the average for regular is $3.809 per Triple A's Daily Fuel Gauge Report. That's up 38 percent from last year's $2.795 at this same time. But no, there's no inflation; nothing to see here...move along...
http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm (http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm)
Još malo obaveznog iz šupljeg u prazno (što košta)...
http://detnews.com/article/20110526/AUTO01/105260436/1148/U.S.-to-propose-mandatory-vehicle-%C3%82%E2%80%98black-boxes%C3%82%E2%80%99 (http://detnews.com/article/20110526/AUTO01/105260436/1148/U.S.-to-propose-mandatory-vehicle-%C3%82%E2%80%98black-boxes%C3%82%E2%80%99)
QuoteU.S. to propose mandatory vehicle 'black boxes'
The U.S. Transportation Department said today it will propose making vehicle "black boxes" mandatory in all vehicles by the end of the year.
The department's National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has long considered whether to make black boxes, officially called event data recorders, or EDRs, mandatory. They collect data about the seconds leading up to a crash and can help investigators determine the cause.
From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20110526/AUTO01/105260436/U.S.-to-propose-mandatory-vehicle- (http://detnews.com/article/20110526/AUTO01/105260436/U.S.-to-propose-mandatory-vehicle-)'black-boxes'#ixzz1NbFQj4yQ
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/28/mysterious.fund/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/28/mysterious.fund/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
QuoteThe defense bill that just passed the House of Representatives includes a back-door fund that lets individual members of Congress funnel millions of dollars into projects of their choosing.
This is happening despite a congressional ban on earmarks -- special, discretionary spending that has funded Congress' pet projects back home in years past, but now has fallen out of favor among budget-conscious deficit hawks.
Under the cloak of a mysteriously-named "Mission Force Enhancement Transfer Fund," Congress has been squirreling away money -- like $9 million for "future undersea capabilities development," $19 million for "Navy ship preliminary design and feasibility studies," and more than $30 million for a "corrosion prevention program."
So in a year dominated by demands for spending cuts, where did all the money come from?
Politics: Loophole for earmarks?
Roughly $1 billion was quietly transferred from projects listed in the president's defense budget and placed into the "transfer fund." This fund, which wasn't in previous year's defense budgets (when earmarks were permitted), served as a piggy bank from which committee members were able to take money to cover the cost of programs introduced by their amendments.
Ne znam samo kad sve to naštampaju.
Elektronski novac. Nemaju oni ni blizu toliko papirnih novčanica. Ovo je sve na "poverenje". Agrokomerc ;)
http://www.marketwatch.com/ (http://www.marketwatch.com/)
http://www.usdebtclock.org/ (http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
...wow!
Quote from: Black swan on 19-05-2011, 20:13:50
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to je zato što nemate ove naljepnice na vratima
Не знам. Мени се ово баш и не свиђа :evil:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/03/house.libya/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/03/house.libya/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
QuoteThe Republican-controlled House of Representatives issued a rebuke of President Barack Obama's Libya policy Friday, passing a measure declaring that the president has failed to provide a "compelling rationale" for military involvement in the North African country.
History in the making...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread712213/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread712213/pg1)
QuoteImportant Information
Changes to MLS Time Series Data
With the release of April 2011 mass layoff data on May 20, 2011, data suppression procedures will be updated in the MLS time series database. These changes may affect data as far back as 1996. Similar changes were made to quarterly extended mass layoff data on May 11, 2011.
Change in North Carolina MLS Input Procedures
Beginning with data for November 2010, mass layoff information reported by North Carolina may not be comparable to prior data due to a change in the unemployment insurance (UI) input procedures related to the handling of initial claims filed by employers on behalf of laid-off workers. Previously, employer-filed initial claims were excluded from use in the Mass Layoff Statistics (MLS) program because they are usually associated with layoffs that are temporary in nature (i.e., less than 31 days in duration), and therefore would not meet the extended mass layoff criteria. However, the temporary nature of these layoffs was not a certainty, and some extended mass layoff events may have been missed. Employer-filed claims are now included as part of the North Carolina's UI initial claim inputs for determining mass layoffs to ensure that all mass layoff and extended mass layoff events are captured. These changes in North Carolina MLS data may also affect aggregated data series for the South Atlantic division, the South region, and the nation, though to a lesser relative degree.
http://www.bls.gov/mls/mlsnote.htm (http://www.bls.gov/mls/mlsnote.htm)
Dojadili ste mi sa linkovima.
Ovde kažu da menjaju istorijske činjenice-podatke kako bi naštelovali podatke o broju zaposlenih-nezaposlenih...
Lakše je menjati istorijske činjenice nego broj zaposlenih.
Tamo je poprilični haos i laganje, i biće sve gore. Nema nikakve sumnje u to. Imaju sve simptome da se raspadnu po scenariju sličnom onom po kojem se Jugoslavija raspala. Pri tome, ima mnogima da zakuka mila majka.
Hate to do this...
http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm (http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm)
QuoteCorporate Tax Breaks vs. Jobs
As we roll out the monthly jobs report from the Labor Department (in a sec.) the main thing to be aware of is how corpgov is doing a "pully-wooly" on the whole notion of trading unemployment compensation funding for corporate tax breaks.
The scam comes in a variety of flavors:
Political hacks - and these are the savior republicorps at work - gives out corporate tax breaks while cutting tax credits for the poor. Think upper Midwest gov. on this one. Must be something in the water west of Illinois since they're also into no-bid contracts for Big Corps to run what would otherwise be profitable state revenue generators. Sweet.
Oh and a republicorp prez wannbe on the east coast, too, if you insist on having a good memory.
A different hack grants corp tax breaks and funds it by essentially reducing the amount of time people in that state (southeast corner) can receive unemployment comp. Think they're down to 23 weeks, or so.
In Massachusetts, lawmakers are questioning whether corp tax breaks really work at all.
California has been extending tax breaks for another five years for the state's film industry.
Meantime, the LA Times has a piece about how corporations would like to have a lower income tax rate over a shifting landscape of tax incentives!
So as a lead-in to the jobs numbers: Corps are getting the dough that used to go to workers, states are cutting bennies and claiming unemployment is "improving" and as we'll show in a sec, even things like historical data is being revised by the Labor Department.
Can anyone be trusted? 'Fraid we know the answer to that one.....
Hate to do this...
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/half-last-months-jobs-came-single-employer-mcdonalds_573220.html (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/half-last-months-jobs-came-single-employer-mcdonalds_573220.html)
Half of Last Month's New Jobs Came from a Single Employer — McDonald'sI ovako se može štelovati statistika...
QuoteMcDonald's ran a big hiring day on April 19 — after the Labor Department's April survey for the payrolls report was conducted — in which 62,000 jobs were added. That's not a net number, of course, and seasonal adjustment will reduce the Hamburglar impact on payrolls. (In simpler terms — restaurants always staff up for the summer; the Labor Department makes allowance for this effect.) Morgan Stanley estimates McDonald's hiring will boost the overall number by 25,000 to 30,000. The Labor Department won't detail an exact McDonald's figure — they won't identify any company they survey — but there will be data in the report to give a rough estimate.
If Morgan Stanley is correct, about half of last month's job growth came from the venerable fast-food chain. That is hardly the sign of a healthy economy.
Hate you do this.
8-)
A šta kažeš na ovo:
Rachel Mellon, the 100-year-old widow of philanthropist Paul Mellon and one of the richest women in America, is caught in the scandal surrounding John Edwards.
Babojebac. :evil:
To je lako. Zaturiš naočari ;)
Tačno se zna ko koga sme da pipne. Zanimljiva ekonomija ta Amerika.
Neverovatno od kakvih su nebuloza oni napravili svoj reality show.
Ona afera Lewinski je pokrila grdne pronevere i ničim opravdani i zasluženi rat protiv Srbije.
Babac secretly delnuo 725 tisuća bolova (dolores) Edvardsu za kampanju. Dala bi ona i Borisu. Znam, ima zbirku od 10.000 knjiga iz botanike. Jesi li primetio: nekad Kaponea, a sad fine ljude navataju za pare, a kriminalce ko Esanža i Štros-Kana na silovanje i pedofiliju. Sve delikatno.
Pipkavo, takorekuć...
Razvili su mnoge razne fore. A zamisli da su mu našli opušak u pepeljari :? :? :?
Oni tamo nemaju blanko ostavke. Odaberu kandidatu kriminalnu radnju po volji, a onda je obavi uz dva svedoka. Babac je tu jer ne zna šta čini. Ona će da odbije da svedoči. Po Petom Amandmanu.
"I, šta treba da uradim?"
"Uzmi ove pare i troši ih u zdravlje. Mi smo zemlja demokratskih sloboda."
"A, vi?"
"Mi smo svedoci iz senke."
"A, babac?"
"Šta - babac? Ona ide kući. Zvanično je dementna. Aloizije i Džon u dublu. Pouzdani dobročinitelj je već pola veka..."
"Onda, da popijemo nešto...?"
"A, jok. Mi smo na zadatku. Znate, Služba..."
Nothing personal ;)
Muka ti je, Kufere, sa tim društvenim uređenjima. Imaš tri komponente: zajednicu, bogate i rintadžije. Kome god da uređenje duva u leđa ima da zajebe. Svaka varijanta ima svoje lopuže, pa počnu da kraduckaju, kradu, drpaju i otimaju. Na kraju preostane neki mali ratić, kao hemijsko čišćenje. Jedino su uspeli u Izraelu sa istorijskim kompromisom države, bogatih i sindikata, ali oni imaju svoj neverending ratić i mirno Mrtvo more. Do Jerihonskih truba. Mi imamo Guču. xdrinka
Izraelci su na šitu non stop. Dolina Beka ih snabdeva strateškom komponentom koja obezbeđuje ovakav vanistorijski kompromis. Al, zato žive u kavezu s čije druge strane rešetki su do bola izbezumljeni Palestinci.
Da je vreme Davida, on bi sve to istrebio.
Onaj kurvar :evil:
Pa, njega bi možda lavovi poštedeli, ali mediji nikako! 8-)
Ahahahaha
Pa oni se ozbiljno pripremaju za sletanje na Mars :(
http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/05/new.york.floating.houses/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/06/05/new.york.floating.houses/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
13 injured when bounce houses go airborne in New YorkQuoteA heavy gust of wind blew away inflatable bounce houses with children inside at a New York soccer event, leaving 13 people injured, authorities said late Saturday.
The Oceanside United Soccer Club in Long Island was hosting a tournament Saturday afternoon when three bounce houses started floating away, said Eric Evensen, a Nassau County police officer.
"As children were inside, a heavy gust of wind blew across the field, raising them off the ground and sending them airborne," he said. "Once they hit the ground, they began rolling and struck several people on the ground."
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možemo mi da se pušimo do sutra, ali zbog ovoga je amerika - Amerika:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/07/steve-jobs-cupertino/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29 (http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/07/steve-jobs-cupertino/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29)
odnosno, kako to izgleda kad Steve Jobs predstavlja koncept nove Apple office zgrade gradskom veću Kupertina. :lol:
Mogu oni da ga zovu Spaceship, ali taj će poleteti samo ako dozovu Tornada ;)
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/china-ratings-house-says-us-defaulting-report-054309883.html (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/china-ratings-house-says-us-defaulting-report-054309883.html)
QuoteA Chinese ratings house has accused the United States of defaulting on its massive debt, state media said Friday, a day after Beijing urged Washington to put its fiscal house in order.
"In our opinion, the United States has already been defaulting," Guan Jianzhong, president of Dagong Global Credit Rating Co. Ltd., the only Chinese agency that gives sovereign ratings, was quoted by the Global Times saying.
Washington had already defaulted on its loans by allowing the dollar to weaken against other currencies -- eroding the wealth of creditors including China, Guan said.
Danas će Dow Jones da padne ispod 12.000.
http://www.marketwatch.com/# (http://www.marketwatch.com/#)
Evo, baš da vidimo.
Čovek opljačkao banku jer nije mogao da priušti zdravstvenu negu. Šteta: 1 dolar:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110621/ts_yblog_thelookout/man-robs-bank-to-get-medical-care-in-jail (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110621/ts_yblog_thelookout/man-robs-bank-to-get-medical-care-in-jail)
Hacked Fox News tweets claim Obama dead
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Fox News was the latest victim of a hack, with a posting Monday on its political Twitter account - @foxnewspolitics - saying President Obama had been assassinated in Iowa, the shooter unknown and that Joe Biden replaced him.
The series of six tweets showed up early Monday morning on the account, which has more than 36,000 followers. Fox News issued a statement calling the tweets "malicious" and "false," and said the hacking incident is under investigation.
The tweets are still visible on the @foxnewspolitics Twitter page as of 11:00 AM ET Monday.
The Guardian reported that a representative of the group 'Scriptkiddies' claimed responsibility:
"We are looking to find information about corporations to assist with antisec [a concerted hacker attack on corporate and government security]. Fox News was selected because we figured their security would be just as much of a joke as their reporting."
FoxNews.com said that it alerted the U.S. Secret Service, and the company is working with Twitter to address the situation.
"We will be requesting a detailed investigation from Twitter about how this occurred, and measures to prevent future unauthorized access into FoxNews.com accounts," said Jeff Misenti, vice president and general manager of Fox News Digital.
Ja nemam živce da ovo gledam (pedeset minuta), ali Lilit će jamačno imati. Moždsa Lord Kufer i ti drugi ljudi čija je pažnja malo solidnija od moje:
http://fora.tv/2011/06/28/Elevation_Partners_Director_and_Co-Founder_Roger_McNamee#Roger_McNamee_Says_Google_Is_Done_ (http://fora.tv/2011/06/28/Elevation_Partners_Director_and_Co-Founder_Roger_McNamee#Roger_McNamee_Says_Google_Is_Done_)
hahaha, da li to znači da nisi odgledao žižeka i assangea u democracy now? mnogo propuštaš! al takva ti karma. :lol:
hm, jbg, znaš već da mi elemetarni uredaj ne podržava flash, a mrzi me da ustanem i odvučem se ili (dovučem) do nekog (neki) drugog (drugi). tomorrow. teška ova gikovština. :lol:
Zanimljivo. Tip baš o tome govori. :)
možda mi je amerika propast ipak suđena? :idea: :lol:
Quote from: lilit_depp on 06-07-2011, 23:38:07
hm, jbg, znaš već da mi elemetarni uredaj ne podržava flash
Eto ironije, jer govornik u jednom momentu kaže "ako nemate iPad, jebo vas otac, koji vam je, odmah idite i kupite ga, to je budućnost, bla bla bla" a na tom uređaju ne može da se gleda taj govor. :lol: :lol:
I, da, nisam pogleao Asanža i Žižeka, jebote, dva sata, pa nemam snage ni vremena za to. Možda za vikend... :cry:
Evo o istom trošku par linkova koje je Dry Na Nord okačio na svoj blog a ja ih sada besramno kradem:
Is there a new geek anti-intellectualism? (http://larrysanger.org/2011/06/is-there-a-new-geek-anti-intellectualism/)
i krekd:
5 reasons twitter isn't actually overthrowing governments (http://www.cracked.com/article_19225_5-reasons-twitter-isnt-actually-overthrowing-governments.html)
Maknami je pričao o HTML5 koji omogućuje 3D kreaciju sajta. Možda sam pogrešno shvatio, ali taj format je zapravo "slobodan" od standardizacije i biće ga veoma teško kopirati, kao recimo MP3. Ovaj format će zapravo biti kao neka "mreža u malom". Mislim da se radi o personalizaciji mreže. To će definitivno da zakomplikuje stvari. U početku će Apple da kontroliše situaciju i skine kajmak, ali mislim da će ubrzo da se pojavi tušta i tma provajdera na ovom konceptu i onda ćao wweb kakvog poznajemo danas.
Zato sam i stavio link u topik Amerika na ivici propasti. :lol: :lol:
Dok ove budale od TPB smišljaju zakone o kontroli Interneta, Internet je avanzovao ;)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 06-07-2011, 22:48:53
Ja nemam živce da ovo gledam (pedeset minuta), ali Lilit će jamačno imati. Moždsa Lord Kufer i ti drugi ljudi čija je pažnja malo solidnija od moje:
http://fora.tv/2011/06/28/Elevation_Partners_Director_and_Co-Founder_Roger_McNamee#Roger_McNamee_Says_Google_Is_Done_ (http://fora.tv/2011/06/28/Elevation_Partners_Director_and_Co-Founder_Roger_McNamee#Roger_McNamee_Says_Google_Is_Done_)
добар ти овај роџер мехо.
Wired, you shitty magazine, you're dead to me. xuss
http://mobile.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/14/wired/index.html (http://mobile.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/07/14/wired/index.html)
Opet ću da pitam: Ako su SAD dužne preko glave pa planiraju budžetski deficit u zilionima dolara, kome je to ova Zemlja dužna? Ako su svi dužni i svi pokušavaju da servisiraju svoje dugove, jesmo li postali robovi zelenaške civilizacije nastale iz neoliberalizma? I, da li će se to ponovo rešavati masivnim ratovanjem kako bi se ti dugovi pobrisali i počelo iz početka? Na kraju, hoćemo li se mi još jednom u ta svetska obračunavanja uključiti klanjem komšijine krave ili bismo se mogli izdići na nivo primata i čučnuti u ćošak?
Biće Bata III. Isto toliko i lepog.
Što se tiče ćoška, Stipan i ja prikupljamo potpise za 'decu kukuruza', jbg Epi bezecovo Frušku. Naćemo i neki dud (mada, brestovi su jači. I lepši) za osmatranje.
Ti ćeš na brest. Ja bome ne mrdam iz kuruza dok svi ne prođu!
haha Stipane, pa valjda ćemo da poberemo sav kukuruz prvo? 8-)
Klipan ostaje klipan. Sad će da te nauči bać Stipan.
Kad bereš kuruze beru se klipovi.
To važi posebno ako neko to radi u žurbi, kao na primer pljačkaške horde.
Stabljike i lišće ostaju na zemlji i otkako je sveta i veka u Bačvani se tamo kriju da se ne bi petljali u revolucije, svetske ratove i ostale gluparije.
Ova Amerika nas uvek dočeka tamo gde joj se ne nadamo. Osudili vojnika na doživotnu robiju zbog ubistva civila u Afganistanu!!! Pa zar se i to može?
Soldier found guilty of killing Afghan civilian (http://news.yahoo.com/soldier-found-guilty-killing-afghan-civilian-192003381.html)
QuoteFORT CAMPBELL, Ky. (AP) — A U.S. Army National Guardsman was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison with the chance of parole for the murder of an Afghan civilian.
Sgt. Derrick Miller of Hagerstown, Md., shook hands with several soldiers in his unit after the 10-member military jury delivered the sentence at Fort Campbell after two hours of deliberation. The 28-year-old was found guilty of premeditated murder.
His attorney had argued during two days of testimony that Miller acted in self-defense when he shot a man last September. The military has identified him as Atta Mohammed but his name was not used in court.
Defense attorney Charles Gittins told the jury that Miller stopped the man for questioning when he walked through a defensive perimeter that Miller's unit had set up around a mortar unit.
Gittins said Miller believed the man could be a threat to his unit and that during questioning the man tried to grab Miller's weapon.
Gittins told the military panel during closing arguments that if they believed Miller acted in self-defense, they must acquit him.
"You have Sgt. Miller's life in your hands," Gittins said.
But Spc. Charles Miller, an eyewitness and Guardsman from Maryland, testified he heard Sgt. Miller threatening to kill the man if he didn't tell the truth and then straddling the man, who was lying on his back, before shooting him in the head.
Prosecuting attorney Maj. Matt Calarco said during closing arguments, "Immediately following the event the accused said, 'I shot him. He was a liar.'"
The jury deliberated for less than three hours before finding Miller guilty.
Miller showed no reaction to the jury's decision to convict, but family members cried quietly in their seats.
Miller, a husband and father of two, was assigned to a Connecticut National Guard unit and attached to the 101st Airborne Division at the time of the shooting in Eastern Afghanistan. After joining the National Guard in 2006, Miller had three combat deployments and had recently been promoted, said Capt. Michael Tregle, one of his two attorneys.
"Derrick Miller made a bad decision, but he deserves the opportunity for life," Tregle said during the sentencing phase.
Calarco said Miller's shooting of an unarmed Afghan civilian and leaving his body in a latrine, was not in accordance with military standards.
"Your sentence certainly makes a statement about how soldiers should behave," Calarco told the panel before sentencing.
Gittins said after the sentencing that he plans to appeal and ask for clemency.
"My concern is a verdict like this could cause soldiers to hesitate in the future," Gittins said.
Fort Campbell's commanding general must approve the sentence.
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Najmoćniji se zalažu za novi svetski rat!
Podriti finansijske sisteme Kine i Rusije, proširiti vojna dejstva na Bliskom istoku i S.Africi, stanovništvo se presporo smanjuje, tj.uvećava se-alternativa je...
Quote from: Anomander Rejk on 28-07-2011, 14:19:38
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Najmoćniji se zalažu za novi svetski rat!
E, u tom slučaju, puko si za Frušku :lol:
Što si pesimist. Možda svetski rat jednom da prođe i bez nas :).
A koji je to rat omašio srednju Evropu? Izvinjavam se, osim Bokserskog ustanka, Burskog i onog rata kad su Mohikanci na prcokevu zajebali Irokeze. Šta ti je... Ja već kopam zemunicu bliže bunaru. To, ono, ako Švabe opet zaposednu bunar taman kad se šunka košta :lol:
http://www.b92.net/tehnopolis/vesti.php?yyyy=2011&mm=07&nav_id=528638 (http://www.b92.net/tehnopolis/vesti.php?yyyy=2011&mm=07&nav_id=528638)
:cry: :cry:
He, he, he. To je najava čemernog kraja strahovlade internet - siledžija.
Jedva čekam da vidim prava imena nekijeh ovdašnjih genijalaca sa sve adresom i brojem lične karte. :evil:
Kao i imena svakog ko je ikada kritikovao represivnu vlast, ukazao na nezakonite i eksploatatorske prakse u firmi u kojoj radi, pričao o tome kako ga je supružnik zlostavljao...
Takođe, svakog ko je ikada kupio bilo šta na Internetu od bilo koje firme, ko je ikada daunloudovao MP3 fajl za koji nije platio...
Quote from: scallop on 26-07-2011, 09:43:51
Opet ću da pitam: Ako su SAD dužne preko glave pa planiraju budžetski deficit u zilionima dolara, kome je to ova Zemlja dužna?
Ovp pitanje ne zanima demokrate i republikance. Trenutno svadjanje oko američkog duga za njih ima samo politički značaj. Demokrati i Obama hoće produženje i povećanje dužničkog plafona do 2013, do sledećih izbora, da bi se održali na vlasti i osvojili još jedan mandat. Republikanci neće to da im daju, nego, u najbolju ruku, daće im na šest meseci, da bi posle ponovo mogli da dodju u prilike budžetske krize i da na taj način destabilizuju vlast, uzbude glasače i da na izborima, zahvaljujući katastrofalnoj ekonomskoj situaciji, preuzmu vlast u svoje ruke.
To što USA ulazi u situaciju sličnu Grčkoj, ne zanima ni republikance, ni demokrate. Samo vlast!
nastavlja se napad financijske mafije u americkoj sluzbi na europu. americki eksorbitantni dug mogao bi ih unazaditi do te mjere da izgube, pa, sve. rejting-agenture napadaju europu, pojacavaju "krizu" i ruse euro. sve za opstanak dolara. sto uciniti?
da ne tusim. zlato skupo, imobilije neprakticne, novac nesiguran. dionice. ja sam kupio dionice telekoma zemlje koja je pod najjacim udarom, italije. da vidimo.
tko je manje cudan moze uzeti nesto drugo, neki konzum, te se pozabaviti sadjnjom mahuna, graha, krumpira, luka i sl. za osobne potrebe i izbjegavati vijesti. dalje od zlata, franka, yena, eura, dolara. u tijeku je spasavanje amerike i socijalizacija nekoliko biliona duga nastalog zbog od financijske mafije iz svih segmenata iscrpljenog novca.
ah da, zabari jucer pretresli prostorije nekih americkih rejting agentura i zaplijenili stosta. ali nista od toga. sve je to mlacenje prazne slame, kako kaze moja baba.
ovo je chart njemackog daxa od 1998
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg225.imageshack.us%2Fimg225%2F4576%2Fdaxhx.jpg&hash=00e5ae5bee3dee815f4854b7a020afc952d32bcc) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/225/daxhx.jpg/)
ovo je talijanskog ftse-a
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da vidimo tko ce izgubiti vise. ja ili oni koji kupuju sigurnost. usput, talijanski je dug vecinom u talijanskim rukama, americki u kineskim.
Krajnje je vreme za jedan mastan svetski rat.
46 miliona Amerikanaca preživljava zahvaljujući bonovima za hranu, objavilo je, 5. avgusta, ministarstvo za poljoprivredu USA. U odnosu na prošlu godinu, cifra se povećala za 2,5 odsto.
s&p snizio americki rejting. sad su na udaru i kinezi.
Quote from: đubrivoje on 06-08-2011, 13:53:49
s&p snizio americki rejting.
na AA+, sa negativnom perspektivom.
organiziram kladjenje
gdje izbija novi rat???
U Americi, gde drugo?
Hm, hm 30 specijalaca manje na platnom spisku. To se zove austerity measure.
Anger Over Credit Rating Resurfaces in Washington
By LOUISE STORY, JULIE CRESWELL and GRETCHEN MORGENSON
Lawmakers questioned whether ratings agencies have the competence to evaluate the country's finances, and whether it was appropriate for them to discuss fiscal politics.
Ma, ko su ti S&P da im skidaju rejting?
Sram ik bilo.
Ja uopšte ne razumeme te Amere. Pa zbog čega se jednostavno ne bejlautuju? To su već nekoliko puta uspešno uradili.
Quote from: scallop on 07-08-2011, 18:25:43
Anger Over Credit Rating Resurfaces in Washington
By LOUISE STORY, JULIE CRESWELL and GRETCHEN MORGENSON
Lawmakers questioned whether ratings agencies have the competence to evaluate the country's finances, and whether it was appropriate for them to discuss fiscal politics.
Ma, ko su ti S&P da im skidaju rejting?
Kada skidaju rejting Grckoj, Portugaliji i Spaniji, onda ih americki strucnjaci hvale i slusaju, a kad SADu skinu rejting, onda su to bezvezni mrsomudi i assholes.
Naravno, ostaje pitanje da li je S&P analiza uzrokovana politickim aspektom destabilizovanja Obamine vlade koju forsiraju Čajni Republikanci.
Oni su rekli da su izišli iz recesije i sad se svi plaše da će da se vrate u recesiju.
Hahahahahahahahahahahha.
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Copter shot down, killing 30 US troops, 7 Afghans
By KIMBERLY DOZIER - Associated Press,SOLOMON MOORE - Associated Press | AP - 14 hrs ago
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Insurgents shot down a U.S. military helicopter during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite Navy SEALs unit that killed Osama bin Laden, as well as seven Afghan commandos, U.S. officials said Saturday. It was the deadliest single loss for American forces in the decade-old war.
The downing was a stinging blow to the lauded, tight-knit SEAL Team 6, months after its crowning achievement. It was also a heavy setback for the U.S.-led coalition as it begins to draw down thousands of combat troops fighting what has become an increasingly costly and unpopular war.
None of the 22 SEAL personnel killed in the crash were part of the team that killed bin Laden in a May raid in Pakistan, but they belonged to the same unit. Their deployment in the raid in which the helicopter crashed would suggest that the target was a high-ranking insurgent figure.
Special operations forces, including the SEALs and others, have been at the forefront in the stepped up strategy of taking out key insurgent leaders in targeted raids, and they will be relied on even more as regular troops pull out.
The strike is also likely to boost the morale of the Taliban in a key province that controls a strategic approach to the capital Kabul. The Taliban claimed they downed the helicopter with a rocket while it was taking part in a raid on a house where insurgents were gathered in the province of Wardak overnight. Wreckage of the craft was strewn across the crash site, a Taliban spokesman said.
A senior U.S. administration official in Washington said it appeared the craft had been shot down. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the crash is still being investigated.
"Their deaths are a reminder of the extraordinary sacrifices made by the men and women of our military and their families, including all who have served in Afghanistan," President Barack Obama said in a statement, adding that his thoughts and prayers go out to the families of those who perished.
The U.S.-led coalition said in a statement that 30 American service members, a civilian interpreter and seven Afghan commandos were killed when their CH-47 Chinook crashed in the early hours Saturday. A current U.S. official and a former U.S. official said the Americans included 22 SEALs, three Air Force combat controllers and a dog handler and his dog. The two spoke on condition of anonymity because military officials were still notifying the families of the dead.
Geneva Vaughn of Union City, Tennessee, told The Associated Press on Saturday that her grandson Aaron Carson Vaughn, a Tennessee native, was one of the SEALs who was killed.
Jon Tumilson of Rockford, Iowa, was also among the SEALs killed in the attack, his father George Tumilson told The Des Moines Register.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai announced the number of people killed in the crash and the presence of special operations troops before any other public figure. He also offered his condolences to the American and Afghan troops killed in the crash.
The deaths bring to 365 the number of coalition troops killed this year in Afghanistan and 42 this month.
The overnight raid took place in the Tangi Joy Zarin area of Wardak's Sayd Abad district, about 60 miles (97 kilometers) southwest of Kabul. Forested peaks in the region give the insurgency good cover and the Taliban have continued to use it as a base despite repeated NATO assaults.
Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said in a statement that the helicopter was involved in an assault on a house where insurgent fighters were gathering. During the battle, the fighters shot down the helicopter with a rocket, he said.
An American official in Brussels said the helicopter was a twin-rotor Chinook, a large troop and cargo transporter.
The casualties are believed to be largest loss of life in the history of SEAL Team Six, officially called the Navy Special Warfare Development Group, or DEVGRU. The team is considered the best of the best among the already elite SEALs, which numbers 3,000 personnel.
NPR and ABC News first reported that those aboard were believed to be Navy SEALs. The AP withheld the report at the request of their sources until they believed the majority of families of those lost had been notified.
The death toll surpasses the previous worst single day loss of life for the U.S.-led coalition in Afghanistan since the war began in 2001 — the June 28, 2005 downing of a military helicopter in eastern Kunar province.
In that incident, 16 Navy SEALs and Army special operations troops were killed when their craft was shot down while on a mission to rescue four SEALs under attack by the Taliban. Three of the SEALs being rescued were also killed and the fourth wounded.
Afghanistan has more U.S. special operations troops, about 10,000, than any other theater of war. The forces, often joined by Afghan troops, carry out as many as a dozen raids a night and have become one of the most effective weapons in the coalition's arsenal, also conducting surveillance and infiltration.
From April to July this year, special operations raids captured 2,941 insurgents and killed 834, twice as many as those killed or captured in the same three-month period of 2010, according to NATO.
The coalition plans to increase its reliance on special operations missions as it reduces the overall number of combat troops.
Night raids have drawn criticism from human rights activists and infuriated Karzai, who says they anger and alienate the Afghan population. But NATO commanders have said the raids are safer for civilians than relatively imprecise airstrikes.
The loss of so many SEALs at once will have a temporary impact on the tempo of missions they can carry out, but with an ongoing drawdown of special operations forces from Iraq, there will be more in reserve for Afghan missions.
The site of the crash, Tangi, is a particularly dangerous area, the site where many of the attacks that take place in the province are planned, said Wardak's Deputy Gov. Ali Ahmad Khashai. "Even with all of the operations conducted there, the opposition is still active."
The U.S. army had intended to hand over its Combat Outpost Tangi to Afghan National Security Forces in April, but the Afghans never established a permanent base there. "We deemed it not to be stategic and closed it," said coalition spokesman U.S. Army Maj. Jason Waggoner. "The Taliban went in and occupied it because it was vacant."
Western military commanders have been debating moving forces from other areas in Afghanistan to reinforce troops around the capital and in the east, where the Taliban is often aided by al-Qaida and other terrorist groups. Earlier this year, the U.S. military closed smaller outposts in at least two eastern provinces and consolidated its troops onto larger bases because of increased insurgent attacks and infiltration from the Pakistan border.There have been at least 17 coalition and Afghan aircraft crashes in Afghanistan this year.
Most of the crashes were attributed to pilot errors, weather conditions or mechanical failures. However, the coalition has confirmed that at least one CH-47F Chinook helicopter was hit by a rocket propelled grenade on July 25. Two coalition crew members were injured in that attack.
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Associated Press writers Anne Gearan and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington, and Rahim Faiez and Patrick Quinn in Kabul contributed to this report.
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Quote from: cutter on 07-08-2011, 21:37:05
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Insurgents shot down a U.S. military helicopter during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite Navy SEALs unit that killed Osama bin Laden,
Pa da. Mrtva usta ne pričaju. Pitajte Kuma i Duću (onog koga novinari i političari zovu Šiptar).
There is no phone here, sir ;)
Priča se da je blizu mesta pada helikoptera viđen ruski specnaz pukovnik, ali za sada bez zvanične potvrde.
Quote from: Lord Kufer on 07-08-2011, 19:31:32Oni su rekli da su izišli iz recesije i sad se svi plaše da će da se vrate u recesiju.
Hahahahahahahahahahahha.
telefonirase ovaj vikend i zakljucise da je potreban jedan bunga-bunga party, znaci usvojen berlusconijev prijedlog kako rijesiti krizu.
Quote from: John Reynolds on 07-08-2011, 23:09:46
Quote from: cutter on 07-08-2011, 21:37:05
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Insurgents shot down a U.S. military helicopter during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite Navy SEALs unit that killed Osama bin Laden,
Pa da. Mrtva usta ne pričaju. Pitajte Kuma i Duću (onog koga novinari i političari zovu Šiptar).
None of the 22 SEAL personnel killed in the crash were part of the team that killed bin Laden in a May raid in Pakistan, but they belonged to the same unit.
A WTC su uništili piloti-amateri.
Gremlini...
али и они су пилоти аматери
A Christian Plot for Domination?
Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry aren't just devout—both have deep ties to a fringe fundamentalist movement known as Dominionism, which says Christians should rule the world.
Aug 14, 2011 10:51 PM EDT
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With Tim Pawlenty out of the presidential race, it is now fairly clear that the GOP candidate will either be Mitt Romney or someone who makes George W. Bush look like Tom Paine. Of the three most plausible candidates for the Republican nomination, two are deeply associated with a theocratic strain of Christian fundamentalism known as Dominionism. If you want to understand Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, understanding Dominionism isn't optional.
Put simply, Dominionism means that Christians have a God-given right to rule all earthly institutions. Originating among some of America's most radical theocrats, it's long had an influence on religious-right education and political organizing. But because it seems so outré, getting ordinary people to take it seriously can be difficult. Most writers, myself included, who explore it have been called paranoid. In a contemptuous 2006 First Things review of several books, including Kevin Phillips' American Theocracy, and my own Kingdom Coming: The Rise of Christian Nationalism, conservative columnist Ross Douthat wrote, "the fear of theocracy has become a defining panic of the Bush era."
Now, however, we have the most theocratic Republican field in American history, and suddenly, the concept of Dominionism is reaching mainstream audiences. Writing about Bachmann in The New Yorker this month, Ryan Lizza spent several paragraphs explaining how the premise fit into the Minnesota congresswoman's intellectual and theological development. And a recent Texas Observer cover story on Rick Perry examined his relationship with the New Apostolic Reformation, a Dominionist variant of Pentecostalism that coalesced about a decade ago. "What makes the New Apostolic Reformation movement so potent is its growing fascination with infiltrating politics and government," wrote Forrest Wilder. Its members "believe Christians—certain Christians—are destined to not just take 'dominion' over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the 'Seven Mountains' of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world."
In many ways, Dominionism is more a political phenomenon than a theological one. It cuts across Christian denominations, from stern, austere sects to the signs-and-wonders culture of modern megachurches. Think of it like political Islamism, which shapes the activism of a number of antagonistic fundamentalist movements, from Sunni Wahabis in the Arab world to Shiite fundamentalists in Iran.
Dominionism derives from a small fringe sect called Christian Reconstructionism, founded by a Calvinist theologian named R. J. Rushdoony in the 1960s. Christian Reconstructionism openly advocates replacing American law with the strictures of the Old Testament, replete with the death penalty for homosexuality, abortion, and even apostasy. The appeal of Christian Reconstructionism is, obviously, limited, and mainstream Christian right figures like Ralph Reed have denounced it.
Michele Bachmann; Rick Perry
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But while Rushdoony was a totalitarian, he was a prolific and influential one—he elaborated his theories in a number of books, including the massive, three-volume Institutes of Biblical Law. And his ideas, along with those of his followers, have had an incalculable impact on the milieu that spawned both Bachmann and Perry.
Rushdoony pioneered the Christian homeschooling movement, as well as the revisionist history, ubiquitous on the religious right, that paints the U.S. as a Christian nation founded on biblical principles. He consistently defended Southern slavery and contrasted it with the greater evils of socialism: "The law here is humane and also unsentimental," he wrote. "It recognizes that some people are by nature slaves and will always be so ... Socialism, on the contrary, tries to give the slave all the advantages of his security together with the benefits of freedom, and in the process, destroys both the free and the enslaved."
Rushdoony's most influential idea was the concept of Dominionism, which spread far beyond the Christian Reconstructionist fringe. "'Dominion theologians,' as they are called, lay great emphasis on Genesis 1:26–7, where God tells Adam to assume dominion over the animate and inanimate world," wrote the scholar Garry Wills in his book Under God: Religion and American Politics, describing the influence of the ideology on Pat Robertson. "When man fell, his control over creation was forfeited; but the saved, who are restored by baptism, can claim again the rights given Adam."
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For believers in Dominionism, rule by non-Christians is a sort of sacrilege—which explains, in part, the theological fury that has accompanied the election of our last two Democratic presidents. "Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ—to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness," wrote George Grant, the former executive director of Coral Ridge Ministries, which has since changed its name to Truth in Action Ministries. "But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice ... It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time ... World conquest."
Bachmann is close to Truth in Action Ministries; last year, she appeared in one of its documentaries, Socialism: A Clear and Present Danger. In it, she espoused the idea, common in Reconstructionist circles, that the government has no right to collect taxes in excess of 10 percent, the amount that believers are called to tithe to the church. On her state-senate-campaign website, she recommended a book co-authored by Grant titled Call of Duty: The Sterling Nobility of Robert E. Lee, which, as Lizza reported, depicted the civil war as a battle between the devout Christian South and the Godless North, and lauded slavery as a benevolent institution. "The unity and companionship that existed between the races in the South prior to the war was the fruit of a common faith," the book said.
One could go on and on listing the Dominionist influences on Bachmann's thinking. She often cites Francis Schaeffer, the godfather of the anti-abortion movement, who held seminars on Rushdoony's work and helped disseminate his ideas to a larger evangelical audience. John Eidsmoe, an Oral Roberts University professor who, she's said, "had a great influence on me," is a Christian Reconstructionist. She often praises the Christian nationalist historian David Barton, who is intimately associated with the Christian Reconstructionist movement; an article about slavery on the website of his organization, Wallbuilders, defends the institution's biblical basis, with extensive citations of Rushdoony. ("God's laws concerning slavery provided parameters for treatment of slaves, which were for the benefit of all involved," it says.)
In elaborating Bachmann's Dominionist history, though, it's important to point out that she is not unique. Perry tends to be regarded as marginally more reasonable than Bachmann, but he is as closely associated with Dominionism as she is, though his links are to a different strain of the ideology.
For believers in Dominionism, rule by non-Christians is a sort of sacrilege.
The Christian Reconstructionists tend to be skeptical of Pentecostalism, with its magic, prophesies, speaking in tongues, and wild ecstasies. Certainly, there are overlaps between the traditions—Oral Roberts, where Bachmann studied with Eidsmoe, was a Pentecostal school. But it's only recently that one group of Pentecostals, the New Apostolic Reformation, has created its own distinct Dominionist movement. And members see Perry as their ticket to power.
"The New Apostles talk about taking dominion over American society in pastoral terms," wrote Wilder in the Texas Observer. "They refer to the 'Seven Mountains' of society: family, religion, arts and entertainment, media, government, education, and business. These are the nerve centers of society that God (or his people) must control." He quotes a sermon from Tom Schlueter, New Apostolic pastor close to Perry. "We're going to infiltrate [the government], not run from it. I know why God's doing what he's doing ... He's just simply saying, 'Tom I've given you authority in a governmental authority, and I need you to infiltrate the governmental mountain."
According to Wilder, members of the New Apostolic Reformation see Perry as their vehicle to claim the "mountain" of government. Some have told Perry that Texas is a "prophet state," destined, with his leadership, to bring America back to God. The movement was deeply involved in The Response, the massive prayer rally that Perry hosted in Houston earlier this month. "Eight members of The Response 'leadership team' are affiliated with the New Apostolic Reformation movement," wrote Wilder. "The long list of The Response's official endorses—posted on the event's website—reads like a Who's Who of the apostolic-prophetic crowd, including movement founder C. Peter Wagner."
We have not seen this sort of thing at the highest levels of the Republican Party before. Those of us who wrote about the Christian fundamentalist influence on the Bush administration were alarmed that one of his advisers, Marvin Olasky, was associated with Christian Reconstructionism. It seemed unthinkable, at the time, that an American president was taking advice from even a single person whose ideas were so inimical to democracy. Few of us imagined that someone who actually championed such ideas would have a shot at the White House. It turns out we weren't paranoid enough. If Bush eroded the separation of church and state, the GOP is now poised to nominate someone who will mount an all-out assault on it. We need to take their beliefs seriously, because they certainly do.
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Niveini kopirajteri su rasisti. Ko bi rekao?
Nivea Pulls "Re-civilized" Ad Following Social Media Backlash (http://news.yahoo.com/nivea-pulls-civilized-ad-following-social-media-backlash-195314833.html)
Quote.A Nivea print ad encouraging African-American men to "re-civilize" themselves, now appearing in September's issue of Esquire magazine, created a firestorm of tweets, Facebook updates and blog posts accusing the brand of racism.
Nivea took to its Facebook Page Thursday afternoon to issue an apology and thank fans for their concern. Parent company Beiersdorf AG withdrew the ad from future publication.
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"Thank you for caring enough to give us your feedback about the recent 'Re-civilized' NIVEA FOR MEN ad. This ad was inappropriate and offensive," Nivea said on Facebook. "It was never our intention to offend anyone, and for this we are deeply sorry. This ad will never be used again. Diversity and equal opportunity are crucial values of our company."
The ad in question portrays an African-American man tossing out a mask of himself with a beard and afro-style hairdo. It reads, "Look like you give a damn," and has the phrase, "re-civilize yourself" bolded in all capital letters.
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Bloggers, Twitter users and Facebook members took issue with the racial implications of the print ad.
"The message couldn't be clearer: Natural hair on a black man isn't a style preference or a nod to afrocentrism -- it's straight-up uncivilized," GOOD Associate Editor Nona Willis Aronowitz wrote.
"Wonder what, if anything, @Rihanna will say about this as the face of #nivea," fashion writer Septembre Anderson tweeted. Rihanna was chosen as the official spokeswoman for Nivea earlier this year. The caption on Anderson's Twitpic photo reads, "Adding Nivea to the list of companies that will not be getting my money. Post-racial my a**."
A separate ad featuring "a clean-shaven white guy getting ready to toss away his scraggly unshaven head and the words, 'Sin City isn't an excuse to look like hell,'" seemed to be overlooked in the midst of the social media uprising, according to AdAge.
Nivea parent company Beiersdorf AG shared the following longer statement with CNN:
"We are deeply sorry to anyone who may take offense to this specific local advertisement. After realizing that this ad is misleading, it was immediately withdrawn.
Diversity and equal opportunity are crucial values of NIVEA: The brand represents diversity, tolerance, and equal opportunity. We value difference. Direct or indirect discrimination must be ruled out in all decisions by, and in all areas of our activities. This applies regardless of gender, age, race, skin color, religion, ideology, sexual orientation, or disability. Nor should cultural, ethnic, or national origin, and political or philosophical conviction be of any significance."
Ist River nabujao zbog Irene, delovi Menhetna malo poplavljeni:
http://www.youtube.com/associatedpress#p/u/6/dykwAfyZ1I4 (http://www.youtube.com/associatedpress#p/u/6/dykwAfyZ1I4)
Sunčicina drugarica koja tamo živi kaže da su i supermarketi opustošeni, voda, hrana, baterije, sve je otišlo. Apokalipsa!!! :lol:
Quote@andrewkueneman Andrew Kueneman
There are literally dudes calmly strolling in short sleeve shirts in the background while a CNN anchor mimes out a dramatic wind struggle.
1 hour ago
Za sada više buke nego štete + CNN radosti.
Pratite Vilijema Gibsona (http://twitter.com/#!/greatdismal)na twitteru ili http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Irene (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Irene)
Da, otuda i ja znam za ovo. :lol:
damn, treba da napravimo listu sagitaša na tw i da je gurnemo na zasebnu stranu na zs... hmm
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-n5MN2Zw3A-E%2FTmve_fqrdtI%2FAAAAAAAAK20%2FP5RzTFaUWFw%2Fs320%2F9-11.jpg&hash=e1df15990e5f54b6b29a5cc89eff01c6387056ea)
http://ljudska_splacina.com/2011/09/srecan-11-septembar-od-pesnika-zike.html (http://ljudska_splacina.com/2011/09/srecan-11-septembar-od-pesnika-zike.html)
Čovek je čoveku vuk, a Indijanac Indijancu čamuga:
Cherokees told to take back slaves' descendants (http://news.yahoo.com/cherokees-told-back-slaves-descendants-193054698.html)
QuoteTULSA, Okla. (AP) — A federal order for one of the nation's largest American Indian tribes to restore voting rights and benefits to about 2,800 descendants of members' former slaves threw plans for a special election for a new chief into turmoil Tuesday.
The federal government sent the sternly-worded letter to the Cherokee Nation after it sent letters last week kicking the descendants out of the tribe and stripping them of benefits including medical care, food stipends and assistance for low-income homeowners.
The tribe also barred the descendants from voting in a Sept. 24 special election for principal chief. The Cherokee Supreme Court ordered the special election after it said it could not determine with certainty the outcome of a close and hotly contested June election between incumbent Chad Smith and longtime tribal councilman Bill John Baker. The results had flip-flopped between the two during weeks of counts and recounts. Baker had twice been declared winner, but so had Smith.
The federal government said that unless the descendants, known as freedmen, were allowed to vote, the upcoming election wouldn't be valid.
"I urge you to consider carefully the nation's next steps in proceeding with an election that does not comply with federal law," Assistant Secretary for Indian Affairs Larry Echo Hawk wrote in letter Friday to acting Chief S. Joe Crittenden. "The department will not recognize any action taken by the nation that is inconsistent with these principles and does not accord its freedmen members full rights of citizenship."
Crittenden said the special election would take place as scheduled.
"The Cherokee Nation will not be governed by the (Bureau of Indian Affairs)," he said. "We will hold our election and continue our long legacy of responsible self-governance."
The election has drawn national interest because while the tribe is based in Tahlequah, many of its 300,000 members live outside Oklahoma.
The freedmen have asked a federal judge to restore their voting rights before the special election, and a hearing is planned next week in federal court in Washington.
The tribe never owned black slaves, but some individual members did. They were freed after the Civil War, in which the tribe allied with the Confederacy. An 1866 treaty between the tribe and the federal government gave the freedmen and their descendants "all the rights of native Cherokees."
More than 76 percent of Cherokee voters approved a 2007 amendment removing the freedmen and other non-Indians from the tribal rolls, but no action was taken until the tribe's Supreme Court upheld the results of that special election last month. Cherokee leaders who backed the amendment, including Smith, said the vote was about the fundamental right of every government to determine its citizens, not about racial exclusion.
But the Department of the Interior said Tuesday that it still believes the expulsion is unconstitutional because it violates the 1866 treaty.
Marilyn Vann, president of the Descendants of Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes, said she hopes the federal order will result in the election being delayed.
"The freedmen people still have rights in the tribe such as voting," Vann said Tuesday. "We'll have our day in court."
Pratim ovih dana debatu desne Amerike i razmisljam kako bi sjajno bilo da ceo svet malo odmori uz Rona Pola na celu SAD. U jedno dva mandata...
Više bih voleo da se svet odmori od SAD.
Nisam siguran da je mesto predsednika danas toliko bitno, ako je ikada i bilo, da iko išta promeni.
Da li Ron Pol podržava "no new taxes"? Ako podržava onda nemamo o čemu da pričamo :-) A i ako ne podržava svejedno je, evo i Obama ne može da digne poreze bogatašima, a hteo bi.
Rol Pol je konzervativac starog kova i veliki je izolacionista. Cenim sredio bi SAD cakum-pakum (mislim u dobrom smislu sredio).
Da mogu da žive u izolacionizmu, ne bi se baktali sa svetom. Oni mogu da opstanu jedino u parazitskom odnosu u kome su.
naravno da mogu, samo ne mogu da žive sa nižom platom koju bi tada imali
Pa na primer kada bi vratili sve one poslove koje su autsorsovali mogli bi da imaju 100% zaposlenosti i da jos primaju emigrante ... Svakako ne bi kolabrirali ekonomski.
Ne zanosite se. Lepo kaže Skalop. Žive od razbojništva i pljačke. Ne postoji razlog da to promene dok im niko ništa ne može. Kao uostalom i ceo Zapad.
ne kukajte. postanimo i mi zapad kako skalop kaze.
stvarno ne vidite dalje od nosa od kad su vas zajahali turci. kud bi vi? u kinu? rusiju? tursku?
Jesi li ovo ti na avataru, zosko? :lol:
Nego šta je?
Al, saće kineska konjica da ih vadi iz govana...
Quote from: Bata Živojinović Karan on 14-09-2011, 19:56:54
naravno da mogu, samo ne mogu da žive sa nižom platom koju bi tada imali
Tu jesi u pravu, ali tamo niko ne ume da živi od ničega kao mi ovde. I kako bi se Wall St. kockari odrekli omiljene zabave? Evo, i sad imaju neku novu mafiju koja ljulja indekse.
Quote from: D. on 14-09-2011, 20:55:35
Jesi li ovo ti na avataru, zosko? :lol:
ja ti zastupam onu kako mentalna retardiranost mora doci do izrazaja u fizionomiji. ne vjerujem da bih pronasao ovaj forum kad bih to bio ja.
posumnjala sam, da. :)
... a imam i stvaralacku krizu. osjecam se poput bate.
ne brini, taj smrad je neponovljiv :lol:
sad mi je lakse.
al bezvezan ti ovaj avatar. ne sviđa mi se.
ni meni. citam topic i uvijek pomislim to neki drugi tupan, kad ono ja.
pa ja ne mislim da je osoba na slici (ti?) tupava. samo mislim da ovaj avatar, ovako običan, ne odražava tvoj karakter i internet pojavu. :)
Heh, deset najomraženijih poslova u Americi:
http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/113308/10-most-hated-jobs-cnbc (http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/113308/10-most-hated-jobs-cnbc)
Ahmedinedžad objašnjava Amerikancima kako udar dva aviona u kule WTC-a nije mogao da ih i sruši. Mislim, čovek je inženjer, sigurno zna šta priča :lol: A kvarni Ameri mu, sigurno u strahu da istina ne dospe do prostog puka, ne dopuštaju pristup tom svetom zemljištu gde nekada stojaše zgrade
Iran's leader: 2 planes couldn't bring towers down (http://news.yahoo.com/irans-leader-2-planes-couldnt-bring-towers-down-003428338.html)
Quote..WASINGTON (AP) — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says that as an engineer he's sure the twin towers were not brought down by jetliners.
Ahmadinejad, in an interview with The Associated Press, says it would have been impossible for two jetliners to bring down the towers simply by hitting them. he says some kind of planned explosion must have taken place.
Ahmadinejad stopped short of saying the United States staged the disaster 10 years ago. But he says there are questions the world should resolve, and noted there are doubters in the United States as well.
Ahmadinejad was denied his request last year to visit the site of the World Trade Center collapse. He says he's not making another attempt this year. He's in New York City for the U.N. General Assembly.
No, mnogo je ilustrativniji ovaj primer legendarne američke dekadencije:
Couple from '16 and Pregnant' arrested in Arkansas (http://news.yahoo.com/couple-16-pregnant-arrested-arkansas-221647178.html)
QuoteJACKSONVILLE, Ark. (AP) — A couple featured on the first season of the MTV reality show "16 and Pregnant" have lost their child to the state and face criminal charges after officers serving a search warrant found their home was filled with feces, flies and maggots, police said Thursday.
Joshua Rendon and Ebony Jackson-Rendon, now both 19, were charged Tuesday after the search of their home at the Little Rock Air Force Base. The Arkansas Department of Human Services took custody of their 2-year-old child, who was born while the TV show was taping. Rendon is a member of the Air Force.
They face felony charges of maintaining a drug premises and unauthorized use of another's property to facilitate a crime. They're also charged with misdemeanor child endangerment, possession of drug paraphernalia and possession of a controlled substance.
Officers obtained the search warrant after being called in by base officials.
Jacksonville police Capt. Kenny Boyd said officers found one gram of synthetic marijuana, (WTF?????) empty packaging and pipes allegedly used to smoke the controlled substance.
Boyd also said the home was in "deplorable" condition. Human and animal feces were on the floors and walls in each room, and animal control officers took away three dogs that were kept inside, Boyd said. The house was full of flies, with collections of maggots in a number of areas, he said.
Rendon said over the phone Thursday that "it's not in our best interest" to talk about the case.
MTV confirmed they were the same teenagers who appeared on "16 and Pregnant."
Rendon's desire to join the Air Force was an element in the show. He and Jackson-Rendon lived in Colorado Springs, Colo., which is home to the Air Force Academy. An MTV bio calls Jackson-Rendon a "military brat," who lived with her mother but spent most of her time with Rendon, who was her fiance at the time.
They both had planned to enlist in the Air Force, but a recruiter told them only one of them could because Jackson-Rendon was pregnant.
A court appearance for them is scheduled for Oct. 6, when they may enter a plea. Both are free on $8,000 bond, Boyd said. Neither had an attorney listed.
Inače, vredi čitati i komentare na ovaj članak, recimo:
QuoteCarol 3 minutes ago
I Guess mom is Black... oops I mean African American. Do I have to call the Black Bear an African American Bear now too?
Kerol mora da je neka naša jer je ovakvo shvatanje humora karakteristično za Balkance.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 23-09-2011, 11:32:31
Couple from '16 and Pregnant' arrested in Arkansas (http://news.yahoo.com/couple-16-pregnant-arrested-arkansas-221647178.html)
QuoteJACKSONVILLE, Ark. (AP) — A couple featured on the first season of the MTV reality show "16 and Pregnant" (WTF?????)have lost their child to the state and face criminal charges after officers serving a search warrant found their home was filled with feces, flies and maggots, police said Thursday.
Joshua Rendon and Ebony Jackson-Rendon, now both 19, were charged Tuesday after the search of their home at the Little Rock Air Force Base. The Arkansas Department of Human Services took custody of their 2-year-old child, who was born while the TV show was taping. Rendon is a member of the Air Force.
Malo sam pretumbao. Pogubio si pravu poentu. Jebote, MTV je imao (ima?) Reality TV sa maloletnim roditeljima! Kakvi su, sad brojni kandidati rade kvalifikacije.
Da, mislim, sve, ceo tekst je taj klasičan primer američke dekadencije kako je mi vidimo.
Da, oni je ne vide. :evil:
Anwar al-Awlaki's extrajudicial murder The law on the use of lethal force by executive order is specific. This assassination broke it – that creates a terrifying precedent
• Wesley Clark: this shows the US is winning against al-Qaida (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/sep/30/anwar-awlaki-us-winning-alqaida)
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- Article history (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/sep/30/anwar-awlaki-extrajudicial-murder#history-link-box)
- (https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.guim.co.uk%2Fsys-images%2FGuardian%2FPix%2Fpictures%2F2010%2F11%2F3%2F1288799175318%2FAnwar-al-Awlaki-006.jpg&hash=cbdcfb999b2053ef83b469173e801b3a33aaf956) Anwar al-Awlaki in 2008; the radical Islamic cleric has reportedly been killed in Yemen by a US drone strike. Photograph: AP Is this the world we want? Where the president of the United States (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/usa) can place an American citizen, or anyone else for that matter, living outside a war zone on a targeted assassination list, and then have him murdered by drone strike (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/30/anwar-al-awlaki-dead).
This was the very result we at the Center for Constitutional Rights and the ACLU feared when we brought a case in US federal court on behalf of Anwar al-Awlaki's father (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/aclu-sues-us-government-awlakis-hit-list-designation/story?id=11316084), hoping to prevent this targeted killing. We lost the case on procedural grounds (http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0211/ACLU_CCR_drop_suit_over_Awlaki__kill_list.html), but the judge considered the implications of the practice as raising "serious questions", asking:"Can the executive order the assassination of a US citizen without first affording him any form of judicial process whatsoever, based on the mere assertion that he is a dangerous member of a terrorist organisation?"
Yes, Anwar al-Awlaki was a radical Muslim cleric (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/nov/02/profile-anwar-al-awlaki-cleric). Yes, his language and speeches were incendiary. He may even have engaged in plots against the United States – but we do not know that because he was never indicted for a crime.
This profile should not have made him a target for a killing without due process and without any effort to capture, arrest and try him. The US government knew his location for purposes of a drone strike, so why was no effort made to arrest him in Yemen (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/yemen), a country that apparently was allied in the US efforts to track him down?
There are – or were – laws about the circumstances in which deadly force can be used, including against those who are bent on causing harm to the United States. Outside of a war zone, as Awlaki was, lethal force can only be employed in the narrowest and most extraordinary circumstances: when there is a concrete, specific and imminent threat of an attack; and even then, deadly force must be a last resort.
The claim, after the fact, by President Obama that Awlaki "operationally directed efforts" to attack the United States was never presented to a court before he was placed on the "kill" list and is untested. Even if President Obama's claim has some validity, unless Awlaki's alleged terrorists actions were imminent and unless deadly force employed as a last resort, this killing constitutes murder.
We know the government makes mistakes, lots of them, in giving people a "terrorist" label. Hundreds of men were wrongfully detained at Guantánamo. Should this same government, or any government, be allowed to order people's killing without due process?
The dire implications of this killing should not be lost on any of us. There appears to be no limit to the president's power to kill anywhere in the world, even if it involves killing a citizen of his own country. Today, it's in Yemen; tomorrow, it could be in the UK or even in the United States.
Dok Ameri nasrću na muslimane, njihova propast će doći iz drugog smera:
Hairy, crazy ants invade from Texas to Miss. (http://news.yahoo.com/hairy-crazy-ants-invade-texas-miss-150823360.html)
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NEW ORLEANS (AP) — It sounds like a horror movie: Biting ants invade by the millions. A camper's metal walls bulge from the pressure of ants nesting behind them. A circle of poison stops them for only a day, and then a fresh horde shows up, bringing babies. Stand in the yard, and in seconds ants cover your shoes.
It's an extreme example of what can happen when the ants — which also can disable huge industrial plants — go unchecked. Controlling them can cost thousands of dollars. But the story is real, told by someone who's been studying ants for a decade.
"Months later, I could close my eyes and see them moving," said Joe MacGown, who curates the ant, mosquito and scarab collections at the Mississippi State Entomological Museum at Mississippi State University.
He's been back to check on the hairy crazy ants. They're still around. The occupant isn't.
The flea-sized critters are called crazy because each forager scrambles randomly at a speed that your average picnic ant, marching one by one, reaches only in video fast-forward. They're called hairy because of fuzz that, to the naked eye, makes their abdomens look less glossy than those of their slower, bigger cousins.
And they're on the move in Florida, Texas, Mississippi and Louisiana. In Texas, they've invaded homes and industrial complexes, urban areas and rural areas. They travel in cargo containers, hay bales, potted plants, motorcycles and moving vans. They overwhelm beehives — one Texas beekeeper was losing 100 a year in 2009. They short out industrial equipment.
If one gets electrocuted, its death releases a chemical cue to attack a threat to the colony, said Roger Gold, an entomology professor at Texas A&M.
"The other ants rush in. Before long, you have a ball of ants," he said.
A computer system controlling pipeline valves shorted out twice in about 35 days, but monthly treatments there now keep the bugs at bay, said exterminator Tom Rasberry, who found the first Texas specimens of the species in the Houston area in 2002.
"We're kind of going for overkill on that particular site because so much is at stake," he said. "If that shuts down, they could literally shut down an entire chemical plant that costs millions of dollars."
And, compared to other ants, these need overkill. For instance, Gold said, if 100,000 are killed by pesticides, millions more will follow.
"I did a test site with a product early on and applied the product to a half-acre ... In 30 days I had two inches of dead ants covering the entire half-acre," Rasberry said. "It looked like the top of the dead ants was just total movement from all the live ants on top of the dead ants."
But the Mississippi story is an exception, Rasberry said. Control is expensive, ranging from $275 to thousands of dollars a year for the 1,000 homes he's treated in the past month. Still, he's never seen the ants force someone out of their home, he said.
The ants don't dig out anthills and prefer to nest in sheltered, moist spots. In MacGown's extreme example in Waveland, Miss., the house was out in woods with many fallen trees and piles of debris. They will eat just about anything — plant or animal.
The ants are probably native to South America, MacGown said. But they were recorded in the Caribbean by the late 19th century, said Jeff Keularts, an extension associate professor at the University of the Virgin Islands. That's how they got the nickname "Caribbean crazy ants." They've also become known as Rasberry crazy ants, after the exterminator.
Now they're making their way through parts of the Southeast. Florida had the ants in about five counties in 2000 but today is up to 20, MacGown said. Nine years after first being spotted in Texas, that state now has them in 18 counties. So far, they have been found in two counties in Mississippi and at least one Louisiana parish.
Texas has temporarily approved two chemicals in its effort to control the ants, and other states are looking at ways to curb their spread.
Controlling them can be tricky. Rasberry said he's worked jobs where other exterminators had already tried and failed. Gold said some infestations have been traced to hay bales hauled from one place to another for livestock left without grass by the drought that has plagued Texas.
MacGown said he hopes their numbers are curbed in Louisiana and Mississippi before it's too late.
The hairy crazy ants do wipe out one pest — fire ants — but that's cold comfort.
"I prefer fire ants to these," MacGown said. "I can avoid a fire ant colony."
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Online:
Texas A&M sites:
http://urbanentomology.tamu.edu/videos/rca/Brood_Grass_1.MOV (http://urbanentomology.tamu.edu/videos/rca/Brood_Grass_1.MOV)
Mada, naravno, glave će im najpre doći mangupi u njihovim sopstvenim redovima:
Wall Street protesters enter 3rd week (http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s1537342.shtml?cat=504)
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Posted at: 10/03/2011 2:05 AM
By VERENA DOBNIK (AP) NEW YORK - The arrests of 700 people on Brooklyn Bridge over the weekend fueled the anger of anti-Wall Street protesters camping in a Manhattan park and sparked support elsewhere in the country as the campaign entered its third week Sunday.
Occupy Wall Street started with fewer than a dozen college students spending days and nights in Zuccotti Park, a plaza near the city's financial center. But a day after Saturday's mass arrests, hundreds of protesters were resolute and like-minded groups in other cities had joined in.
New York City officials "thought we were going to leave and we haven't," 19-year-old Kira Moyer-Sims of Portland, Ore., said. "We're going to stay as long as we can."
Police said the department will continue its regular patrols of the area. And "as always, if it is a lawful demonstration, we help facilitate and if they break the law we arrest them," NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said.
A map of the country displayed on the plaza identified 21 places where other protests were organized.
Wall-Street style demonstrations with names like Occupy Los Angeles, Occupy Chicago, and Occupy Boston were staged in front of Federal Reserve buildings in those cities. A group in Columbus, Ohio, also marched on the capital city's street. And signs of support were rearing up outside the U.S. In Canada, a Wall Street rally is planned for later this month in Toronto.
"It was chaos here" two weeks ago, said Jackie Fellner, a marketing manager from Westchester County, north of the city.
Now campers take turns organizing a "general assembly" on the plaza where they divide tasks among themselves. They have "a protocol for most things," Moyer-Sims said, including a makeshift hospital and getting legal help for people who are arrested. They rally around a website called OccupyWallSt.org, and they even started printing a newspaper _ the Occupied Wall Street Journal.
Police watched Sunday as activists awoke in their makeshift beds. Later, members of the NYPD moved in and ordered some of them to dismantle what police said were "dwellings."
"A dozen officers came walking toward us with NYPD video cameras pointed at us," said John Dennehy, who was back in the park after spending hours in police custody.
He flashed a police desk appearance ticket charging him with disorderly conduct and prohibited use of a roadway. On Saturday, the 29-year-old United Nations employee joined thousands of protesters who tried to cross the bridge after marching through Manhattan's Financial District.
Dennehy and three others had built what they called their "box castle" using cardboard mailing boxes to delineate their space on the plaza. But police told them to remove the structure, they said. Plastic tarps they were using to stay dry in a pouring rain also were not acceptable, they said.
Under clear skies Sunday afternoon, protesters could help themselves to food that unnamed supporters donated to keep the encampment running. Some ate pizza they said was ordered for them by a man in Egypt who phoned a local shop to have the pies delivered.
The campers also have been fueled by encouraging words from well-known figures, the latest actor Alec Baldwin, who posted videos on his Twitter page that had already been widely circulated. One appeared to show police using pepper spray on a group of women, another a young man being tackled to the ground by an officer.
"This is unsettling," Baldwin wrote. "I think the NYPD has a PR problem."
Fellner said she has an issue with "big money dictating which politicians get elected and what programs get funded."
But "we're not here to take down Wall Street," she insisted. "It's not poor against rich."
Still, the protesters chose Wall Street as their physical rallying point, speaking against corporate greed, social inequality, global climate change and other concerns.
School teacher Denise Martinez said most of the children she teaches in Brooklyn live at or below the poverty level, and her classes are jammed with up to about 50 students.
"These are America's future workers, and what's trickling down to them are the problems _ the unemployment, the crime," she said. She blamed Wall Street for causing the country's financial problems and said it needed to do more to solve them.
Beside the mass arrest Saturday, police arrested about 100 people Sept. 24 when protesters marched to other parts of the city and got into a tense standoff with officers.
Some said protesters on the Brooklyn Bridge were lured onto the roadway by police, or they didn't hear the calls from authorities to head to the pedestrian walkway. Police said no one was tricked into being arrested, and that those in the back of the group who couldn't hear were allowed to leave.
The NYPD released video footage Sunday to back up its stance. In one of the videos, an official uses a bullhorn to warn the crowd. Marchers can be seen chanting, "Take the bridge." (Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
Kad već pominjem mangupe u njihovm redovima:
Poll: 1 in 3 vets sees Iraq, Afghan wars as wastes (http://news.yahoo.com/poll-1-3-vets-sees-iraq-afghan-wars-040253311.html)
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WASHINGTON (AP) — One in three U.S. veterans of the post-Sept. 11 military believes the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were not worth fighting, and a majority think that after 10 years of combat America should be focusing less on foreign affairs and more on its own problems, according to an opinion survey released Wednesday.
The findings highlight a dilemma for the Obama administration and Congress as they struggle to shrink the government's huge budget deficits and reconsider defense priorities while trying to keep public support for remaining involved in Iraq and Afghanistan for the longer term.
Nearly 4,500 U.S. troops have died in Iraq and nearly 1,700 in Afghanistan. Combined war costs since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks have topped $1 trillion.
The poll results presented by the Pew Research Center portray post-Sept. 11 veterans as proud of their work, scarred by warfare and convinced that the American public has little understanding of the problems that wartime service has created for military members and their families.
The survey also showed that post-Sept. 11 veterans are more likely than Americans as a whole to call themselves Republicans and to disapprove of President Barack Obama's performance as commander in chief. They also are more likely than earlier generations of veterans to have no religious affiliation.
The Pew Research Center, a nonpartisan organization that studies attitudes and trends, called the study the first of its kind. The results were based on two surveys conducted between late July and mid-September. One polled 1,853 veterans, including 712 who had served in the military after Sept. 11, 2001 but are no longer on active duty. Of the 712 post-Sept. 11 veterans, 336 served in Iraq or Afghanistan. The other polled 2,003 adults who had not served in the military.
Nearly half of post-Sept. 11 veterans said deployments strained their relationship with their spouses, and a similar share reported problems with their children. On the other hand, 60 percent said they and their families benefited financially from having served abroad in a combat zone. Asked for a single word to describe their experiences, the war veterans offered a mixed picture: "rewarding," ''nightmare," ''eye opening," ''lousy."
There are about 98,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, where the conflict began with a U.S.-led invasion on Oct. 7, 2001. Obama campaigned for the presidency in 2008 on getting out of Iraq and ramping up the military campaign in Afghanistan. He is on track to have all U.S. troops out of Iraq by the end of this year, and in July he announced that he would pull 10,000 troops out of Afghanistan this year and 23,000 more by next September.
The Pew survey found that veterans are ambivalent about the net value of the wars, although they generally were more positive about Afghanistan, which has been a more protracted but less deadly conflict for U.S. forces. One-third of post-Sept. 11 veterans said neither war was worth the sacrifices; that was the view of 45 percent in the separate poll of members of the general public.
Fifty percent of veterans said Afghanistan was worth it, whereas the poll of civilians put it at 41 percent.
Among veterans, 44 percent said Iraq was worth it. That compares with 36 percent in the poll of civilians.
Of the surveyed former service members who were seriously wounded or knew someone who was killed or seriously wounded, 48 percent said the war in Iraq was worth fighting, compared with 36 percent of those veterans who had no personal exposure to casualties.
Exposure to casualties had an even larger impact on attitudes toward the war in Afghanistan. Fifty-five percent of those exposed to casualties said Afghanistan has been worth the cost to the U.S., whereas 40 percent of those who were not exposed to casualties held that same view.
Pew said its survey results found "isolationist inclinations" among post-Sept. 11 war veterans. About 6-in-10 said the United States should pay less attention to problems overseas and instead concentrate on problems at home. In a Pew survey conducted earlier this year, a similar share of the general public agreed.
The survey also reflected what many view as a troublesome cultural gap between the military and the general public. Although numerous polls have shown that Americans hold the military in high regard, the respondents in the Pew research acknowledged a lack of understanding of what military life entails.
Only 27 percent of adult civilians said the public understands the problems facing those in uniform, and the share of veterans who said so is even lower — 21 percent.
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Robert Burns can be reached on Twitter at http://twitter.com/robertburnsAP (http://twitter.com/robertburnsAP)
Nikako da shvatite da je američka spoljna politika njihov unutrašnji problem. :mrgreen:
Eh, da...
http://www.cracked.com/article_19453_6-reasons-were-in-another-book-burning-period-in-history.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_19453_6-reasons-were-in-another-book-burning-period-in-history.html)
Reconsider Columbus Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il5hwpdJMcg#ws)
Start-ups Fund Wall St. Protest (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/advisor/start-ups-fund-wall-st-150000747.html)
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They're protesting big banks and corporations, so which start-ups are Occupy Wall Street looking to for collecting donations and financing a new media endeavor?
The Occupy Wall Street protesters who have been camping out in Lower Manhattan's Zuccotti Park since September 17 may be rallying against big-bank policies, but they've simultaneously needed an efficient method to fund their own efforts. To that end, they've turned away from large companies, instead working with start-ups in the online-payment and crowdfunding space.
The primary method employed by the protesters to collect donations has been through an account with WePay (https://www.wepay.com/?partner=yahoo-smb), an online payment-collection service start-up. Based in Palo Alto, California, WePay was founded in 2008 by Rich Aberman, a dissatisfied law student, and Bill Clerico, a disgruntled investment banker. The company's site bills itself as "taking the pain out of payments," and the site also allows donation-collection from the masses. Hero Vincent, a facilitator and informal PR representative for Occupy Wall Street, says that the group's online coffers have received a steady flow of donations from both domestic and international supporters through the site.
"We've had so much donated to the cause that we don't know what to do with it," Vincent said. "We've had donations for generators, we've had donations for food."
The loose group of activists who helped plan the beginning of the protest, which started at Bowling Green at the southern tip of Manhattan on September 17, made a WePay account back in the summer to raise $30,000 for the event. That's when WePay first heard of the protest plan, weeks before it had any on-ground presence or national-media attention, said Julia Kung, WePay's director of marketing.
That first effort at fundraising collected $29,724.73, just short of the protesters' goal. But subsequent efforts through WePay have surpassed goals. One campaign to raise money for a generator set a goal of $1,760 and raised $1,990. Another fund drive for "tickets back to Occupy Wall Street," aimed to raise $650.00. The stranded protesters, who raised almost double that amount in only a few hours, promised to use the rest of the money to buy supplies for the crowd in Zuccotti Park.
Kung stressed that WePay is apolitical. "However," she said, "we do understand the frustration with large corporations and big banks. It's why WePay was created."
Another online fundraising start-up is helping enable efforts of the protesters. Kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/?partner=yahoo-smb), the Web-based crowd-funding platform, is a favorite of musicians, filmmakers, and artists looking to launch a one-time project. But it's also been used by designers and other start-ups to get an initial—informal—round of funding that resembles a "friends and family" round.
When groups of Occupy Wall Street protesters grew frustrated with what they felt was their lack of control over the way their message was presented in print, they began printing a publication of their own, the impishly named Occupy Wall Street Journal. The newspaper debuted this past Saturday with an initial run of 50,000 copies, which were distributed from the protester's base in Zuccotti Park.
The publishers turned to Kickstarter, which was founded in 2009, and claims to have since generated more than $75 million to fund several thousand projects. The Occupy Wall Street Journal's Kickstarter profile explained its objectives this way: "The idea is to explain what the protest is about and profile different people who have joined and why they joined. We will explain the issues involved and how the general assembly process operates at Liberty Plaza. It will also offer resources and ways to join. The emphasis will be on quality content, design, photography, and artwork that uses incisive humor to make it a lively read."
When a project goes up on Kickstarter, organizers can initiate a ticking clock, counting down to donation goal. The Occcupy Wall Street Journal was looking for $12,000 by October 9 to publish another issue of the paper. As of midday Friday, 1244 backers had contributed nearly $55,000.
Šta je? Još te čudi što se ljudi polako dižu protiv kockaske institucije Wall Street?
Ne čudi me, nego da notiram zanimljive informacije u vezi cele priče.
Onoga dana kada su bankarski krediti postali "proizvodi", bilo je jasno da je svet upao u krađu i prekrađu para. Ja više volim kad su proizvodi špenadle i kupus.
Jedna cinična dama o okupaciji Volstrita:
http://www.politika.rs/pogledi/Zeljka-Buturovic/Vruca-jesen.sr.html (http://www.politika.rs/pogledi/Zeljka-Buturovic/Vruca-jesen.sr.html)
Жељка Бутуровић, доктор психологије
Врућа јесен
Српски медијски простор је, из неког разлога, екстремно америкоцентричан. Новинским вестима господаре догађаји из САД праћени огромним бројем коментара читалаца. Док велика већина вероватно не би могла да састави две реченице о питању пореских стопа у Румунији, Бугарској или чак Србији, све врви од жалопојки над пореским системом у САД. Стога не чуди да су недавни протести у америчким градовима наишли на топао пријем код српске публике. Обе групe краси не само завидан јаз између умишљеног и реалног разумевања америчког друштва и политике него, много горе, и једна општа политичка незрелост. Нажалост, оно што је у САД политичка филозофија остарелих хипика у Србији је далеко распрострањеније.
За почетак, ту је незаобилазан култ младости. За грађанина Србије, који је навикао да су му министри људи који нису прешли тридесету, где су странке у вечитој потери за ,,младим лидерима" и где се студентима одавно приписују политичка права која премашују права осталих грађана, нема боље гаранције да је неки протест на правом путу од те да њиме доминирају млади. Млади су, наиме, неискварени животним искуством па су самим тим најпоузданији морални компас сваког друштва.
Попут адолесцентских бунтовника, амерички демонстранти и њихови српски навијачи су убеђени да отвореном критиком Волстрита раде нешто јако храбро – да се боре против опаког система, да говоре истине које други ни не слуте, а и кад би их знали не би смели да их кажу; да се уздижу изнад гомиле и њеног конформизма – а све понављајући милион пута изречене полуистине и општа места уз пуну подршку филмских звезда, непосредног окружења и стопроцентну сигурност да ама баш никаквих озбиљних последица неће бити.
Демонстранти су огорчени статистикама о материјалним разликама у популацији као да се цео живот врти око предмета и новца. Умишља се да у САД хара сиромаштво иако се ради о људима чији је животни стандард виши од стандарда 99 одсто људи у историји цивилизације. Велика већина статистичке категорије ,,сиромашних" нису никакви изгладнели бескућници већ више него добро ухрањени људи који живе у становима који имају клима-уређај, машину за сушење веша и више од једног телевизора.
Демонстранти са Волстрита и њихови навијачи су убеђени да је за светску кризу крива некаква ,,дерегулација", иако се количина прописа која регулише најситнија правила пословања свакодневно увећава стотинама страница. У реалности, основни узрок последње финансијске кризе јесте униформност понашања банака коју су произвели силни компликовани прописи: ако констелација прописа има неку ману – а што је немогуће предвидети управо због њиховог броја и комплексности – погрешиће не једна или две него све институције. Једноставно, тамо где је све прописано нема места да се мисли другачије...
Eto, rešen problem. Šta se koji đavo bune, imaju mašinu za sušenje veša, klima uređaj i televizor...
Ovo je pacijent psihologije. Ona pojma nema o čemu govori, od trenutka kad počne da piše o dve grupe, a do kraja teksta ih ne razdvoji. Mene zapanjuje da to Politika objavljuje.
Objavljivali su oni i gore njene tekstove.
Quote from: scallop on 12-10-2011, 16:15:33
... Mene zapanjuje da to Politika objavljuje.
ova ti je dobra! stvarno dobra! xrofl
Šta je, bre? Svetska revolucija počinje a mi ništa. Muka je što će Ameri jednog dana pričati kako su oni prvi započeli.
Marks došao po svoje :-)
Zamišljam skalopa kako kuva džinovski lonac nekog neverovatnog paprikaša, i onda nosi do Vol strita da nahrani raju ispred.
Ja ću da hranim ovde takve kao ti kad vam dođe iz dupeta u glavu.
:lol:
Quote from: scallop on 12-10-2011, 16:15:33
Ovo je pacijent psihologije. Ona pojma nema o čemu govori, od trenutka kad počne da piše o dve grupe, a do kraja teksta ih ne razdvoji. Mene zapanjuje da to Politika objavljuje.
pa što bi ih razdvajala kad tvrdi da su isti?
tekst je naravno loš, to stoji, posebno jer je taj isti Volstrit podržavao hipike u demonstracijama protiv rata u Vijetnamu.
Ajde, kad već tvrdiš da si toliko pametan, napiši nešto pametno. Nema kredita za Џ.
da pišem o čemu?
Ako želiš prosvjetljenje, imaš sto tekstova na blogu 8-)
Evo ga jedan ozbiljan tekst na ovu temu...
http://www.vijesti.me/kultura/okupacija-vol-strita-nas-uci-da-smo-dosta-djelali-vrijeme-je-da-pocnemo-da-mislimo-clanak-42458 (http://www.vijesti.me/kultura/okupacija-vol-strita-nas-uci-da-smo-dosta-djelali-vrijeme-je-da-pocnemo-da-mislimo-clanak-42458)
Nije u Americi nego u Rimu, ali povodi su, hm, američki:
Police Fire Tear Gas as Protesters Riot in Rome (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/riot-police-fire-tear-gas-protesters-rome-14743959)
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By ALESSANDRA RIZZO and MEERA SELVA Associated Press ROME October 15, 2011 (AP)
Italian police fired tear gas and water cannons as protesters in Rome turned a demonstration against corporate greed into a riot Saturday, smashing shop and bank windows, torching cars and hurling bottles.
The protest in the Italian capital was part of "Occupy Wall Street" demonstrations against capitalism and austerity measures that went global Saturday, leading to dozens of marches and protests worldwide.
Black smoke billowed into the air in downtown Rome as a small group broke away from the main demonstration and wreaked havoc in streets closed to the Colosseum.
Protesters clad in black with their faces covered threw rocks, bottles and other objects at police in riot gear. Some had held clubs, others had hammers. They threw an incendiary devices and firecrackers at banks, destroyed bank ATMs and set trash bins on fire, news reports said.
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.abcnews.com%2F%2Fimages%2FBusiness%2F6d30a5f328144a048d25f96501931da1_mn.jpg&hash=daf160545fdec8269e5ee11e0580cd909dc2eb2a) AP A hooded protestor holding a Euro sign walks... View Full Caption (http://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/javascript:void(0);) A hooded protestor holding a Euro sign walks up to the gate of the NYSE Euronext stock exchange in Amsterdam, Netherlands, Saturday Oct. 15, 2011, during a demonstration in support of the Occupy Wall Street movement. Demonstrators in hundreds of cities all over the world are protesting against what they call corporate power and the banking system. (AP Photo/Peter Dejong) Close (http://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/javascript:void(0);) Two news crews from Sky Italia were assaulted.
TV footage showed police in riot gear charging the protesters and firing water cannons at them.
The ANSA news agency said some protesters trashed offices of the Defense Ministry and of a labor agency, smashing windows with clubs and setting cars on fire.
Police were out in force as up to 100,000 protesters were expected a day after Premier Silvio Berlusconi barely survived a confidence vote in Parliament. Italy is rapidly becoming a focus of concern in Europe's debt crisis.
"People of Europe: Rise Up!" read a banner in Rome. Some peaceful demonstrators turned against the violent group and tried to stop them, hurling bottles, Sky Italia and ANSA said. Others fled, scared by the violence.
At least one man was injured as he tried to stop some protesters from hurling bottles.
Anarchist groups have often infiltrated demonstrations in Italy in the past. ANSA said four people from an anarchist group were arrested Saturday morning before the demonstration, with police seizing helmets, anti-gas masks, clubs and hundreds of bottles in their car.
Ja već navlačim NPK, pa da mućkamo.
Oooo, slatko: dvoje su se tako smuvali:
'Will you occupy the rest of my life?' proposal gives Occupy Wall Street a romantic tinge (http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/occupy_wall_street/2011/10/18/2011-10-18_will_you_occupy_the_rest_of_my_life_proposal_gives_occupy_wall_street_a_romantic.html)
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For one Brooklyn (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brooklyn+(New+York+City)) couple, nothing is more romantic than the Occupy Wall Street (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Occupy+Wall+Street) protest.
Brian Douglas (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Brian+Douglas), 33, popped the question to his girlfriend of more than two years, Deb Szczepkowski, 32, at the downtown Manhattan (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Downtown+Manhattan) sit-in on Saturday - and a video of the proposal has become a huge hit with netizens who like a good love story.
Holding a diamond ring, Douglas grabbed a microphone - normally used to rally and inform the faithful - and uttered the eight words every unmarried protester wants to hear:
"Will you occupy the rest of my life?" he asked.
Szczepkowski said yes, they embraced and the crowd went wild.
"We were going to be together [regardless of the engagement]," Douglas told The Daily News. "I just wanted it to be a memory."
He said he was overcome with a desire to put a ring on Szczepkowski's finger while they were at the protests recently.
The huddled masses howling for social change, he said, simply inspired him to propose because it was "the first time I felt optimistic."
"I'd been down there a couple of times and I just pictured [using] the people's microphone [to propose] and realized I could take Deb down there and bring all of our friends," Douglas said of his thinking.
Once he had made up his mind, he said he had to scramble to pull off his plan because of talk the city was going to clear out the protest's Zuccotti Park base to allow for a scrubdown.
"I have to do this as soon as possible because I was so scared the cops were going to shut it down," he recalled thinking.
"She had no idea."
That weekend he went ring shopping and found a perfect 1920s vintage diamond - and the rest is history, as recorded in a video that was posted online on Sunday and went viral the very next day.
The couple lives in Bushwick (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Bushwick). They have an 8-month-old son, a reality that Douglas admitted speeded up their courtship to a degree.
"When she told me she was late, I just hugged her because I was scared she was going to break up with me when she said, 'We need to talk,'" he remembered. "So when she said, 'I'm late,' I was just so happy!"
As the video of their Occupy moment continues to splash through the Internet, Szczepkowski said the challenge they now face is planning their big day. They hope to say their vows sometime in the coming year.
"We just want to find a place where we can fit as much of our friends and family as we can," she said.
While most of the comments that were posted to the video on YouTube (http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/YouTube+LLC) were positive, Douglas, who works as a web developer, admitted he was disturbed by the venom that some people used to describe the protesters.
"I have a job," he said in response to the haters. "I'm not one of those people who can sleep there (in the park). I have to go home and be with my family."
Szczepkowski, who works as a video editor, said she wanted to join the protest because she felt it represented her first chance to really make a change in the world.
"I vote, but I don't feel like I do much as a small person," she said. "I feel this movement is a lot of people who feel like they aren't being represented."
She added: "It's something that I feel could be positive, instead of feeling like the future is spiraling out of control."
nmandell@nydailynews.com (nmandell@nydailynews.com)
OccupyMyLife.MOV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz7cU_gCTp4#ws)
postoji nekoliko prikladnih topica za ovo...
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:(
And Justice For All- Wu-Tang Killa Bees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAykZNITQU8#)
@Karl: taj beskućnik će imati smeštaj na duže vreme...
Quote from: angel011 on 20-10-2011, 23:16:18
@Karl: taj beskućnik će imati smeštaj na duže vreme...
That's what she said....
Quote from: angel011 on 20-10-2011, 23:16:18
@Karl: taj beskućnik će imati smeštaj na duže vreme...
On je, verovatno, imao ideju da to bude na nekoliko meseci... :roll:
Bizaran primer američke policijske brutalnosti:
Postgame Haka dancers in Utah pepper sprayed by police (http://sports.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Postgame-Haka-dancers-in-Utah-pepper-sprayed-by-?urn=highschool-wp7506)
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Controversy has erupted in Utah after police reacted aggressively to a traditional Maori dance being performed by men and high school students after a small town football game on Thursday night.
According to the Associated Press, Deseret News and Salt Lake Tribune, among other sources, a group of relatives of a player for the Roosevelt (Utah) Union High football team was attacked with pepper spray by police officers in Roosevelt, Utah (http://news.yahoo.com/police-pepper-spray-haka-dancers-football-game-232923096.html) while performing the dance shortly after Uintah's 17-14 victory (http://www.deseretnews.com/sports/high-school/stats/game/96984/2011-10-20-Football-Uintah-Union.html). The group performing the Haka reportedly blocked the exit from the field (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52761524-78/police-dance-game-spray.html.csp), and while their dance was destined to be a quick one -- as practically all Hakas performed by sports teams are -- police insisted that they move from the area to allow players and others to leave the field (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705392959/Roosevelt-police-pepper-spray-fans-after-high-school-football-game.html).
When they began dancing instead, Roosevelt police began using pepper spray to displace the crowd (http://news.yahoo.com/police-pepper-spray-haka-dancers-football-game-232923096.html).
"I've never seen anything like it," Union fan Jason Kelly told the Deseret News. "It was totally unprovoked."
[Related: Utah High school team pays tribute to paralyzed teammate (http://yhoo.it/nze7vY)]
The Haka has become a more popular pre-game or postgame attraction for sports teams across American sports after its use by the New Zealand All Blacks rugby team spread globally. The All Blacks, who perform an intimidating Haka before every game, won the 2011 Rugby World Cup on Sunday in an 8-7 victory against France (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/23102011/2/23102011094913.html).
The pepper spray spread far beyond the performers, reaching players and fans at the game and causing fans to run from the scene with watering eyes.
You can see video of the Haka melee above, which shows police officers insisting that the dancers "make a hole," in their formation (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705392959/Roosevelt-police-pepper-spray-fans-after-high-school-football-game.html) to allow players and others to leave the field. As onlooker Zack Aguiniga told the Salt Lake Tribune, the dancers may not have been able to hear that command because they were in the middle of their Haka performance (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52761524-78/police-dance-game-spray.html.csp), chanting loudly in unison and drowning out surrounding noise.
As the police officers sprayed the crowd, either a dancer or onlooker could be heard yelling "I'm going to sue you guys," at the officers.
Nearly all who reported witnessing the incident said the dancers posed no security threat and questioned why police had acted the way they did (http://news.yahoo.com/police-pepper-spray-haka-dancers-football-game-232923096.html).
"Five seconds into it, the police officers started coming at them with their clubs, telling them to make room," Union fan Jessica Rasmussen told the Tribune. "They started spraying Mace."
Shawn Mitchell, who was at the game with his son and mother-in-law, also categorized the police response as a clear overreaction (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705392959/Roosevelt-police-pepper-spray-fans-after-high-school-football-game.html) when interviewed by the Deseret News.
"I didn't see anything that looked like there could be a threat," he said.
Ima i video zapis:
Tongans get maced while performing Haka at high school football game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv3yL1yNSUQ#ws)
Ad for gun training bars Muslims and Obama voters (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/ad-gun-training-bars-muslims-obama-voters-153954962.html)
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A radio ad for a handgun training class that bars Muslims and Obama voters has sparked an investigation in Texas (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=13g7k9108/EXP=1321113849/**http%3A//www.kvue.com/news/Radio-ad-refuses-service-to-Obama-supporters-Muslims-132748178.html).
"We will attempt to teach you all the necessary information you need to obtain your [Concealed Handgun License]," the ad says. Then towards the end, it adds: "If you are a socialist liberal and/or voted for the current campaigner in chief, please do not take this class. You have already proven that you cannot make a knowledgeable and prudent decision under the law."
And then: "If you are a non-Christian Arab or Muslim, I will not teach you the class with no shame; I am Crockett Keller, thank you, and God bless America."
The ad ran for six days on KHLB, Mason's local station. It's also been heard tens of thousands of times on Youtube.
Keller, 65, has said in media interviews that he just regards the message is just common sense. "The fact is, if you are a devout Muslim, then you cannot be a true American," he told local news station KVUE, while fielding calls congratulating him for his stance. "Why should I arm these people to kill me? That's suicide."
"I call it exercising my right to choose who I instruct in how to use a dangerous weapon," he added.
But the state of Texas may disagree. The Department of Public Safety said in a statement that certified instructors of handgun training are required to comply with all applicable state and federal laws, and added: "Conduct by an instructor that denied service to individuals on the basis of race, ethnicity or religion would place that instructor's certification by the Department at risk of suspension or revocation." The department has said it has begun an investigation.
It seems unlikely that Keller will back down, though. "I'm not going to do it," he told the local news. "I will give up my license to teach before I will teach them," he said, referring to Obama voters and Muslims.
Adolf Hitler in Custody Battle
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Adolf Hitler is one of the most evil men to ever walk the face of the planet. He also happens to be a little boy in New Jersey. Adolf Hitler Campbell was taken away from his parents in 2009 because welfare officials said that his name was a form of abuse.
And Adolf Hitler isn't the only strange name in the Campbell family. Heath and Deborah Campbell named their daughter JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell. But is an offensive name reason enough to divide a family?
Here's a news report filmed shortly after Adolf Hitler was taken away from his parents.
<a href="Parents Lose Custody Of Adolf Hitler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTUAq_KU5rI#ws)">Watch on YouTube.</a>
Yahoo! News reports (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/10891440/parents-fight-for-custody-of-adolf-hitler/) that the Campbells are fighting to get their children back. The Campbell's say that Adolf Hitler (http://www.inquisitr.com/70756/hitler-responds-to-downfall-meme-takedowns/) was wrongfully taken away since there was no evidence of abuse.
Heath said:
"The judge and
[the Division of Youth and Family Services) told us that there was no evidence of abuse and that it was the names. They were taken over the children's names." Ms. Campbell added:
"I don't sleep, I don't eat much. I miss my kids. Miss their pitter patters on the floor."
The Campbell's insist that they are not neo-Nazi supporters, despite the fact that their home is decorated with swastikas. But even if the Campbells are neo-Nazis, does that mean that they aren't allowed to have children?
If Gwenyth Paltrow can name her daughter Apple. If Jason Lee can name his son Pilot Inspektor. If Bob Geldof can name his kids Fifi-Trixibelle, Peaches, Little Trixie, and Honeyblossom, then why can't the Campbells name their son Adolph?
Why can this dad dress this kid like this?
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Kids are going to be subjected to all of their parents beliefs and flaws. Whether the parents are Nazis, uber-christian preachers, extreme right nut jobs, or liberal lefty pot heads, they have the right to raise their children how they choose. Right?
Or does naming your kid Adolf Hitler cross a line?
Hitler je tabu. Prosto.
A na drugoj strani
Reformed skinhead endures agony to remove tattoos (http://news.yahoo.com/reformed-skinhead-endures-agony-remove-tattoos-162205881.html)
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Julie Widner was terrified — afraid her husband would do something reckless, even disfigure himself.
"We had come so far," she says. "We had left the movement, had created a good family life. We had so much to live for. I just thought there has to be someone out there who will help us."
After getting married in 2006, the couple, former pillars of the white power movement (she as a member of the National Alliance, he a founder of the Vinlanders gang of skinheads) had worked hard to put their racist past behind them. They had settled down and had a baby; her younger children had embraced him as a father.
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EDITOR'S NOTE — A reformed skinhead, Bryon Widner was desperate to rid himself of the racist tattoos that covered his face — so desperate that he turned to former enemies for help, and was willing to endure months of pain. Second of two parts.
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And yet, the past was ever-present — tattooed in brutish symbols all over his body and face: a blood-soaked razor, swastikas, the letters "HATE" stamped across his knuckles.
Wherever he turned Widner was shunned — on job sites, in stores and restaurants. People saw a menacing thug, not a loving father. He felt like an utter failure.
The couple had scoured the Internet trying to learn how to safely remove the facial tattoos. But extensive facial tattoos are extremely rare, and few doctors have performed such complicated surgery. Besides, they couldn't afford it. They had little money and no health insurance.
So Widner began investigating homemade recipes, looking at dermal acids and other solutions. He reached the point, he said, where "I was totally prepared to douse my face in acid."
In desperation, Julie did something that once would have been unimaginable. She reached out to a black man whom white supremacists consider their sworn enemy.
Daryle Lamont Jenkins runs an anti-hate group called One People's Project based in Philadelphia. The 43-year-old activist is a huge thorn in the side of white supremacists, posting their names and addresses on his website, alerting people to their rallies and organizing counter protests.
In Julie he heard the voice of a woman in trouble.
"It didn't matter who she had once been or what she had once believed," he said. "Here was a wife and mother prepared to do anything for her family."
Jenkins suggested that Widner contact T.J. Leyden, a former neo-Nazi skinhead Marine who had famously left the movement in 1996, and has promoted tolerance ever since. More than anyone else, Leyden understood the revulsion and self-condemnation that Widner was going through. And the danger.
"Hide in plain sight," he advised. "Lean on those you trust."
Most importantly, Leyden told him to call the Southern Poverty Law Center.
"If anyone can help," he said, "it's those guys."
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When Widner called, says Joseph Roy, "it was like the Osama Bin Laden of the movement calling in."
Roy is chief investigator of hate and extreme groups for the SPLC. The nonprofit civil rights organization, based in Montgomery, Ala., tracks hate groups, militias and extreme organizations. Aggressive at bringing lawsuits, it has successfully shut down leading white power groups, bankrupted their leaders and won multimillion dollar awards for victims.
The SPLC hears regularly from people who say they are trying to leave hate and extreme groups. Some are fakes. Some are trying to spread false intelligence. Many are in crisis, and return to the group when the crisis passes.
"Very rarely have we met a reformed racist skinhead," says Roy.
Over the years, Roy had dubbed Widner the "pit bull" of skinheads. "No one was more aggressive, more confrontational, more notorious," Roy said.
And yet, over several weeks of conversations with Bryon and Julie, he became convinced. There was something different about this couple — a sincerity, a raw determination to put the past behind them and to seek some sort of redemption.
In March 2007 Roy and an assistant flew to Michigan. Roy still marvels at the memory of the guy with the freakish face walking out to greet them, wearing a "World's Greatest Dad" sweat shirt, holding his baby boy in one arm while a little girl clung to his other one.
Over the next few days they got to see the suffering Bryon was going through. They listened in horror when he told them he was considering using acid on his face. "He was in a bad place," Roy said. "This was a guy who was fighting for his life."
Widner shared information about the structure of various skinhead groups, the different forms of probation in some gangs, the hierarchy of others. He agreed to speak at the SPLC's annual Skinhead Intelligence Network conference, which draws police from all over the country.
For his part, Roy promised to ask his organization to do something it had never done before — search for a donor to pay for Widner's tattoos to be surgically removed. Widner didn't hold out much hope. But for now, he agreed not to experiment with acid.
Financially and emotionally, things were getting tougher. Widner found part-time work shoveling snow and odd handyman jobs, but barely enough to support a family. The vicious postings on the Internet continued. Pig manure was dumped on their cars. There were hang-up calls in the middle of the night. Anonymous callers left threatening messages: "You will die." Several times, tipped off by sympathetic friends that a crew was on the way to "take care" of them, the family fled to a hotel.
So when Roy called a couple of months later saying a donor was willing to pay for the surgery, Widner could hardly believe it. The donor, a longtime supporter of the SPLC had been moved by Widner's story — and shocked by photographs of his face.
"For him to have any chance in life and do good," she said, "I knew those tattoos had to come off."
She agreed to fund the surgeries — at a cost of approximately $35,000 — on several conditions. She wanted to remain anonymous. She wanted assurances that Bryon would get his GED, would go into counseling and would pursue either a college education or a trade.
It was easy to agree. These were all things Widner wanted to do.
It would take up to a year to find the right doctors and schedule the operations. Meanwhile, it was clear the family had to leave Michigan. The white power Web forums were wild with chatter about the race traitor couple and their family. Through local police, the FBI warned that they were in danger.
In the spring of 2008 they packed their belongings and moved to Tennessee, near Julie's father. They rented a three-bedroom house in the country, joined a church. Helped by his father-in-law and his pastor, Widner found some work. The threats subsided.
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Dr. Bruce Shack, who chairs the Department of Plastic Surgery at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, vividly remembers the first time he met Widner. After seeing photographs and talking to the SPLC, he had agreed to do the surgery. But he was totally unprepared for Widner's face.
"This wasn't just a few tattoos," he said. "This was an entire canvas."
It was June 2009 and the couple had driven to Vanderbilt to meet him. Shack's genial manner immediately put them at ease.
"He didn't just see the tattoos," Widner says. "He saw me as a real human being."
Shack also saw one of the biggest challenges of his career.
Shack showed Widner the laser — which looks like a long, fat pen — that would trace the exact outline of the tattoos as it burned them off his face. He explained how it would deliver short bursts of energy, different amounts depending on the color and depth of the tattoo. It would take many sessions for the ink to fade. And it would be painful, far more painful than getting the tattoos in the first place.
"You are going to feel like you have the worst sunburn in the world, your face will swell up like a prizefighter, but it will eventually heal," Shack told Widner. "This is not going to be any fun. But if you are willing to do it, I'm willing to help."
Widner didn't hesitate. "I have to do it," he said, as Julie held his hand. "I am never going to live a normal life unless I do."
On June 22, 2009, Widner lay on an operating table, his mind spinning with anxiety and hope. A nurse dabbed numbing gel all over his face. Shack towered over him in protective goggles and injected a local anesthetic. Then he started jabbing Widner's skin, the laser making a staccato rat-tat-tat sound as it burned through his flesh.
Widner had never felt such pain. Not all the times he had suffered black eyes and lost teeth in bar brawls, not the time in jail when guards — for fun — locked him up with a group of black inmates in order to see him taken down. His face swelled up in a burning rage, his eyes were black and puffy, his hands looked like blistered boxing gloves. He had never felt so helpless or so miserable.
"I was real whiny during that time," he says.
"He was real brave," says Julie.
After a couple of sessions, Shack decided that Widner was in too much pain: The only way to continue was to put him under general anesthetic for every operation. It was also clear that the removal was going to take far longer than the seven or eight sessions he had originally anticipated.
They developed a routine. Every few weeks, Widner would spend about an hour and a half in surgery and another hour in recovery, while Julie would fuss and fret and try to summon the strength to hide her fears and smile at the bruised, battered husband she drove home. It would often take days for the burns and oozing blisters to subside.
Shack and his team marveled at Widner's determination and endurance. The Widners marveled at the team's level of commitment and care. Even nurses who were initially intimidated by Widner's looks found themselves growing fond of the stubborn former skinhead and his young family.
Slowly — far more slowly than Widner had hoped — the tattoos began to fade. In all he underwent 25 surgeries over the course of 16 months, on his face, neck and hands.
On Oct. 22, 2010, the day of the final operation, Shack hugged Julie and shook hands with Bryon. Removing the tattoos, he said, had been one of his greatest honors as a surgeon. But a greater privilege was getting to know them.
"Anyone who is prepared to put himself through this is bound to do something good with his life," Shack said.
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In a comfortable yard in a tidy suburban subdivision, Bryon and Julie Widner smoke Marlboros and sip energy drinks as they contemplate the newest chapter in their lives. Only a few trusted friends and family members know where they live — they agreed to be interviewed on condition that the location of their new home not be disclosed.
This time, they moved because they had deliberately exposed themselves to danger. After much consideration, the couple had agreed to allow an MSNBC film crew to follow Widner through his surgeries. The cameras didn't spare the details, capturing Widner writhing and moaning in agony. Widner didn't care. If anything he felt that he deserved the pain and the public humiliation as a kind of penance for all the hurt he had caused over the years.
But there was a deeper motivation for going public with his story. There was a chance that some angry young teenager on the verge of becoming a skinhead would see Widner's suffering and think twice.
Maybe he would realize that, as Widner says now, "I wasn't on any great mission for the white race. I was just a thug."
They moved the day after the documentary — "Erasing Hate" — aired in June.
Widner's arms and torso are still extensively tattooed. He is in the process of inking over the "political" ones, like the Nazi lightning bolts. His face is clean and scar free, and he has a shock of thick black hair. With his thin glasses and studious expression, he looks nerdy, Julie jokes.
His neck and hands have suffered some pigment damage, he gets frequent migraine headaches and he has to stay out of the sun. But, he says, "it's a small price to pay for being human again."
The move took a financial toll. Julie had to pawn her wedding ring to buy groceries and pay the rent. But Widner has found some work — construction and tattoo jobs. He got his GED and they both plan to start courses at the local community college.
They say they feel safe. Several police officers and firefighters live nearby; the FBI has visited and the local police know their story.
Still they can't help but worry. It's one thing getting out of the white power movement as others have done, fading into obscurity. It's another to publicly denounce the violent world they once inhabited.
Bryon has constant nightmares about what injuries he might have inflicted — injuries he can only imagine because so often he was in a drunken stupor when he beat someone up. Did he blind someone? Did he paralyze someone? He doesn't know.
But there are moments of grace. After a recent screening of the documentary in California, a black woman embraced Widner in tears. "I forgive you," she cried.
They've thrown out everything to do with their racist past, including photographs of Widner and his crew posing at Nordic fests and of the white power conferences Julie used to attend. And yet there are reminders all around, and not just the remaining tattoos. Tyrson's name — inspired by the Norse god of justice, Tyr — troubles them for its connection to the racist brand of Odinism his father practiced with the Vinlanders. But how do they ask a 4-year-old to change his name to Eddie?
The child tugs at his daddy's Spiderman T-shirt, begging him to come play video games. "OK, buddy," Widner says. "Let's go shoot a few bad guys." With that, the man who once brandished his hate like a badge of honor scoops up his son and turns on his Xbox.
Widner plays the role of Captain America. The bad guys are Nazis.
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Helen O'Neill, a New York-based national writer for The Associated Press, can be reached at features(at)ap.org. @yahoonews (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=12vovl8c8/EXP=1321260953/**http%3A//twitter.com/intent/user%3Fregion=screen_name%26screen_name=yahoonews) on Twitter, become a fan on Facebook (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=11lpu3fbu/EXP=1321260953/**http%3A//www.facebook.com/yahoonews) Editors' Picks
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@ Melkor, U SFRJ je poznat slučaj izvesnog Topića, Slavonca iz sela kod Nove Gradište, pristalice nacističke Nemačke i NHD, koji je svom prvom sinu, rođenom 1949. dao ime Adolf, a mlađem Benito.
Možeš misliti decu, raslu u postpartizanskoj Titovoj SFRJ sa imenima Adolf i Benito?
Zamisli oca, koji je na tako nešto osudio sinove?
U ovu priču retko ko bi poverovao, da jedan od sinova nije postao poznat roker (doduše sa nadimkom Dado).
Posle pada komunizma, počeo je ponovo da se poptpisuje celim imenom Adolf Dado Topić.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dado_Topi%C4%87 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dado_Topi%C4%87)
Još posle one Pesme evrovizije sa Slađanom Milošević, na 'turnejama' po EZ se reklamirao kao Adolf Topić, bilo opšte poznata stvar, tako da 'pad komunizma' nema nikakve veze s njegovim potpisom.
Možda ima uspon nacizma? :-?
Kad smo već kod nacizma:
New York City cop imprisons college student without ID for two days (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/york-city-cop-imprisons-college-student-without-id-151221707.html)
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Note to tourists visting New York: Don't be caught out without your ID, or you could be caught in the city's penal system for days, if the recent experience of 21-year-old college student Samantha Zucker is anything to go by.
Actually, Zucker barely qualifies as an out-of-towner, since she hails from the Westchester town of Ardsley. And the underlying charge that led to her tour in jail was a minor trespassing citation, dismissed by a presiding judge in no time.
But no matter: A vigilant NYPD officer deemed her a sufficient threat to public safety to have her handcuffed and jailed in two different cells across the length of Manhattan.
The whole ordeal began with a trip to Riverside Park, as Zucker recounts to New York Times columnist James Dwyer (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=13mdajc8u/EXP=1321605030/**http%3A//www.nytimes.com/2011/11/02/nyregion/dismal-tale-of-arrest-for-tiniest-of-crimes.html%3F_r=1). Zucker is enrolled in a design program at Pittsburgh's Carnegie-Mellon University; together with 80 of her colleagues, she spent a long day on Oct. 21 scouting out prospective employment scenarios in New York's sprawling fashion industry. After pounding the pavement, she dropped off her bags at her West Harlem hotel. From there, she and fellow student Alex Fischer decided to stroll over to Riverside Park, to gaze out on the Hudson.
There was just one problem: The two park visitors arrived at around 3 a.m. on Oct. 22, and the park is officially closed to visitors as of 1 a.m. A police car pulled up, and the officers in it informed the two students of their trespass. Zucker and Fischer explained that they hadn't known of the park's curfew, and turned around to leave. By then, however, another NYPD car appeared, and the officer driving it announced he was citing them for trespassing, and demanded their IDs. Fischer produced his driver's license and was let go--but Zucker had left her identification back at the hotel, two blocks away. She apologized, and told the officer that she could have Fischer or another friend fetch it.
But no dice. "He said it was too late for that, I should have thought of it earlier," she told Dwyer (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=13mdajc8u/EXP=1321605030/**http%3A//www.nytimes.com/2011/11/02/nyregion/dismal-tale-of-arrest-for-tiniest-of-crimes.html%3F_r=1). At that point, as Dwyer writes, the wheels of justice locked grimly into gear; Zucker was handcuffed and led into a surreal maze of detention:
For the next 36 hours, she was moved from a cell in the 26th Precinct station house on West 126th Street to central booking in Lower Manhattan and then — because one of the officers was ending his shift before Ms. Zucker could be photographed for her court appearance, and you didn't think he was going to take the subway uptown while his partner stayed with her at booking, did you? — she was brought back to Harlem.
It's not against the law, of course, to be out on New York's streets without identification--but the courts can detain people without identification in jail until their arraignment in lieu of issuing them a summons. As Zucker waited in her cell for her court appearance, she heard NYPD employees marvel that the arresting officer didn't permit her the opportunity to have a friend retrieve her ID. At another point, Zucker says, she heard two NYPD staffers say that the arresting officer--identified as Officer Durrell of the 26th District in Zucker's police records--had a "short fuse." When Zucker finally got her court appearance, the presiding judge dismissed her trespassing citation in less than a minute.
Durrell apparently worked off some tension by taunting his prisoner in her cell. "He was telling me that I needed to get a new boyfriend, that I should get a guy who takes me out to dinner," Ms. Zucker said. "He mocked me for being from Westchester." (For the record, Fischer is not Zucker's boyfriend.)
The officer also instructed Zucker--twice--to refrain from calling him a profane name that she did not in fact utter. "I said, 'Sir, I never used that word.' " Then again, projection is no crime--any more than being out in a park without an ID is.
Imaš šanse da dopreš do javnosti ako si Zucker. :evil:
Otprilike tako nekako.
Ja se ne sećam da je forsirao ime Adolf do pre neke godine.
Kao klinac zapamtio sam samo Dado Topić.
Zavisi kad si bio klinac :-)
http://blog.bookviewcafe.com/2011/11/05/long-term-discouragement/ (http://blog.bookviewcafe.com/2011/11/05/long-term-discouragement/)
Ursula Legvin.
Lepo si to našla. xjap
Pošto Meho ima druga posla ja ću da ponudim jedan link kako u recesiji mladi u SAD razmišljaju.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/business/economy/as-graduates-move-back-home-economy-feels-the-pain.html?_r=1&hp (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/17/business/economy/as-graduates-move-back-home-economy-feels-the-pain.html?_r=1&hp)
Odnosno, kako o njihovoj štednji razmišljaju oni koji bi da od njih zarade.
Ma da, pogane štediše, krcaju pare na gomilu umesto odma da ih troše... :D Al potrošiće ih, pre ili kasnije.
Dobra strana je što si saznao o čemu se radi. Loša strana je što ne znamo kako se zamišlja balans između onih koji žele da opstanu i onih koji žive od njihovog propadanja. Pre par dana su razjašnjavali kako se ne isplati isplatiti hipotekarne dugove. Ako si "čist" odlaskom u penziju, kako ćeš se ponovo zadužiti, kad matori ne mogu dobiti garanciju za kredit, a za refinansiranje mogu. Neko opasno dobro živi od kamata na našu nesigurnost.
Ovih dana mi na TV govore o finansijskom poslovanju kroz kreditne aranžmane koje nazivaju - proizvodima. Jutros su mi objasnili da je finansijski sektor industrija. Sa druge strane, u doktrinama i konceptima koriste vojnu terminologiju. Misle li da su okončali rat, a da sad treba da nam utuve da su privreda? Znaju li kako to okončava ili misle da će preživeti?
Dolazite li večeras?
Ne dolazimo, javili bismo se... idemo na koncert nekih francuskinjica.
Malo suzavca uoči, kome je to još škodilo
UC Davis Protestors Pepper Sprayed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdDLhPwpp4#ws)
http://bicyclebarricade.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/open-letter-to-chancellor-linda-p-b-katehi/ (http://bicyclebarricade.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/open-letter-to-chancellor-linda-p-b-katehi/)
Pa kad se ne brane.
http://xkcd.com/980/huge/#x=-1428&y=-4794&z=6 (http://xkcd.com/980/huge/#x=-1428&y=-4794&z=6)
Kako ovo postaje pregledno?
Za svaki drugi xkcd u proseku pomislim kako bi zbog Rendala vredelo postati gej.
Imas zum u gornjem levom uglu.
Zašto pretpostavljaš da nisam video zum? Treba mi za sporo pregledanje. Ja imam podatke iz 2008.
Oštanpaj na milimetarskoj hartiji 8-)
Ne mogu. Bacio sam celu rolnu prilikom poslednje premetačine u kući. Preeviše se urolnala. :(
Nema šanse, ono je pravljeno za školsku tablu.
ne znam o cemu vi to, ali, je li dovoljno bar za tjedan krize?
Amerika na ivici propasti 1: Čovek ulovi ribu od 400 kila a federalne vlasti mu je oduzmu jer je na tom mestu dopušteno samo pecanje a ne i korišćenje mreže:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-catches-881-pound-tuna-seized-feds-194650751.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-catches-881-pound-tuna-seized-feds-194650751.html)
Amerika na ivici propasti 2: direktor škole je osuđen na 30 godina zatvora zbog proizvođenja dečije pornografije - u školi!!! Zvuči jezivo, međutim kad pročitate, vidite da je on postavio kamere u vece i snimao (muške) učenike kad piške a posle kući drkao na te snimke. Niti je ikada ikoga pipnuo niti je ikome pokazao te slike. Naravno da nije lepo i sve to, ali, trideset godina??? Pa koliko treba da dobiju ljudi koji se ozbiljno bave zlostavljanjem dece za potrebe komercijalne eksploatacije?
http://news.yahoo.com/us-man-jailed-making-child-pornography-school-165005824.html (http://news.yahoo.com/us-man-jailed-making-child-pornography-school-165005824.html)
Zloupotrebio je službeni položaj. I ovi naši drkaju na nas i veruju da će dobiti još 30 godina, ali, verovatno, neće.
Ma, mislim, jasno da je trebalo da ide zatvor, invazija privatnosti plus maloletnici, plus pozicija na kojoj je bio. Ali trideset godina??? Okrutni su sudovi u Americi. Toliko ne bi bre dobio da se u kafani potuko i ubio čoveka.
Raspištoljavanje je zapisano još kod Džefersona, a raspojasavanje i drkanje nisu zaštićeni Ustavom.
Ima dosta istine u tome što kažeš! Puritanski mentalitet kod njih proizvodi neke zbilja iznenađujuće rezultate.
Invazija privatnosti? Pa oni doneše Patriotski zakon da mogu svakog da uhapse i drže beskonačno dugo bez prava da se brani, i još mogu da ga muče. I još da mogu da prisluškuju, snimaju razgovore, upadaju u telefonske linije, u kompjutere, sve to se može u Americi kad si vlast.
Evo i Kanađani su ovih dana uradili slično.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/11/22/g20-police-operation.html (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/11/22/g20-police-operation.html)
QuotePolice organizations across the country co-operated to spy on community organizations and activists in what the RCMP called one of the largest domestic intelligence operations in Canadian history, documents reveal.
Pa da neće možda oni da dobiju doživotnu za ovo?
Pa, dobro, jasno, ali tu je, kao, greater good u pitanju...
Customers hit by pepper spray at Wal-Mart describe scene of chaoshttp://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/at-wal-mart-pepper-spray-attack-triggered-chaos-screaming.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/at-wal-mart-pepper-spray-attack-triggered-chaos-screaming.html)
Da su delili besplatne sadnice, još bi se moglo shvatiti ovakvo ponašanje :-D
QuoteLopez said that by the time he arrived at the video games, the display had been torn down. Employees attempted to hold back the scrum of shoppers and pick up merchandise even as customers trampled the video games and DVDs strewn on the floor.
"It was absolutely crazy," he said.
Another customer said screams erupted after about 100 people waiting in line to snag Xbox gaming consoles and Wii video games got into a shoving match.
Alejandra Seminario, 24, said she was waiting in line to grab some toys at the store around 9:55 p.m. when people the next aisle over started shouting and ripping at the plastic wrap encasing gaming consoles, which was supposed to be opened at 10 p.m.
"People started screaming, pulling and pushing each other, and then the whole area filled up with pepper spray," the Sylmar resident said. "I guess what triggered it was people started pulling the plastic off the pallets and then shoving and bombarding the display of games. It started with people pushing and screaming because they were getting shoved onto the boxes."
The pepper spray wafted through the air, Seminario said, and she breathed some in and started coughing. Her face also started itching.
"I did not want to get involved. I was too scared. I just stayed in the toy aisle," she said.
Američka represija čak i nad sopstvenim čirlidersicama otima se kontroli. Svi smo videli pre neki dan kako je jedn igrač Dalas Kaubojsa u padu pokupio i jednu od čirlidersica pored terena. Ona je posle na tviteru napisala dva kul i opušten komentara o tome i sad joj odjednom više nema tviter naloga. Fašizam!!!!!!!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Cowboys-cheerleader-knocked-over-by-Witten-force?urn=nfl-wp12519 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Cowboys-cheerleader-knocked-over-by-Witten-force?urn=nfl-wp12519)
Pravda za Melisu!
Amerika na ivici propasti pre 40 godina. (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/11/documerica-images-of-america-in-crisis-in-the-1970s/100190/)
Amerika je stalno na ivici propasti. Do sada su uspevali da svoju krizu teslime drugima. Ne može se dobro živeti na račun drugih doveka. Strepim samo od pomisli šta bi mogli da izazovu, e da ne bi propali sami.
Mmmda, krizu iz sedamdesetih mogu smatrati ivicom propasti samo razmaženi Amerikanci, ona je bila deset puta bolja od krize iz tridesetih, koja je bila deset puta bolja od srpske krize iz devedesetih. A mi ni danas još nismo dostigli ni njihovu ''Veliku Depresiju'' iz tridesetih.
Izvući će se ta gamad ponovo, sve dok ih neki svjetski rat ne zaustavi.
Opet lupetaš. Ovo je samo uvod u novi svetski rat, i opet će gamad izaći još jača.
u svjetskom ratu ne mogu da pobjede, jedino ako se Kinezi budu borili za njih
nemaju koga da pošalju na front, veće su pičke od Srbijanaca.
Secret records of US bank bailout released, over howls of protest (http://boingboing.net/2011/11/28/secret-records-of-us-bank-bail.html) By Cory Doctorow (http://boingboing.net/author/cory_doctorow_1) at 1:54 pm Monday, Nov 28
Bloomberg has won a lengthy Freedom of Inforn battle to get the details of a secretive, no-strings-attached multi-trillion-dollar payout from the Bush administration (continued by the Obama administration) to banks, the details of which were not available to Congress. The documents make it clear that the banks' posture that they were only borrowing the money to help the government (JP Morgan said it borrowed "at the request of the Federal Reserve to help motivate others to use the system") were purest refined BS. Morgan for example, had borrowed twice its cash holdings.
The Fed, headed by Chairman Ben S. Bernanke, argued that revealing borrower details would create a stigma -- investors and counterparties would shun firms that used the central bank as lender of last resort -- and that needy institutions would be reluctant to borrow in the next crisis. Clearing House Association fought Bloomberg's lawsuit up to the U.S. Supreme Court, which declined to hear the banks' appeal in March 2011.
The amount of money the central bank parceled out was surprising even to Gary H. Stern, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis from 1985 to 2009, who says he "wasn't aware of the magnitude." It dwarfed the Treasury Department's better-known $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP. Add up guarantees and lending limits, and the Fed had committed $7.77 trillion as of March 2009 to rescuing the financial system, more than half the value of everything produced in the U.S. that year.
"TARP at least had some strings attached," says Brad Miller, a North Carolina Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee, referring to the program's executive-pay ceiling. "With the Fed programs, there was nothing..."
Lawmakers knew none of this.
They had no clue that one bank, New York-based Morgan Stanley (MS), took $107 billion in Fed loans in September 2008, enough to pay off one-tenth of the country's delinquent mortgages. The firm's peak borrowing occurred the same day Congress rejected the proposed TARP bill, triggering the biggest point drop ever in the Dow Jones Industrial Average. (INDU) The bill later passed, and Morgan Stanley got $10 billion of TARP funds, though Paulson said only "healthy institutions" were eligible.
Secret Fed Loans Gave Banks Undisclosed $13B (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-28/secret-fed-loans-undisclosed-to-congress-gave-banks-13-billion-in-income.html) (
via The Awl (http://www.theawl.com/))
I konje ubivaju, ikke sant?
Horses could soon be slaughtered for meat in US (http://news.yahoo.com/horses-could-soon-slaughtered-meat-us-080907323.html)
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TULSA, Okla. (AP) — Horses could soon be butchered in the U.S. for human consumption after Congress quietly lifted a 5-year-old ban on funding horse meat inspections, and activists say slaughterhouses could be up and running in as little as a month.
Slaughter opponents pushed a measure cutting off funding for horse meat inspections through Congress in 2006 after other efforts to pass outright bans on horse slaughter failed in previous years. Congress lifted the ban in a spending bill President Barack Obama signed into law Nov. 18 to keep the government afloat until mid-December.
It did not, however, allocate any new money to pay for horse meat inspections, which opponents claim could cost taxpayers $3 million to $5 million a year. The U.S. Department of Agriculture would have to find the money in its existing budget, which is expected to see more cuts this year as Congress and the White House aim to trim federal spending.
The USDA issued a statement Tuesday saying there are no slaughterhouses in the U.S. that butcher horses for human consumption now, but if one were to open, it would conduct inspections to make sure federal laws were being followed. USDA spokesman Neil Gaffney declined to answer questions beyond what was in the statement.
The last U.S. slaughterhouse that butchered horses closed in 2007 in Illinois, and animal welfare activists warned of massive public outcry in any town where a slaughterhouse may open.
"If plants open up in Oklahoma or Nebraska, you'll see controversy, litigation, legislative action and basically a very inhospitable environment to operate," predicted Wayne Pacelle, president and chief executive of The Humane Society of the United States. "Local opposition will emerge and you'll have tremendous controversy over slaughtering Trigger and Mr. Ed."
But pro-slaughter activists say the ban had unintended consequences, including an increase in neglect and the abandonment of horses, and that they are scrambling to get a plant going — possibly in Wyoming, North Dakota, Nebraska or Missouri. They estimate a slaughterhouse could open in 30 to 90 days with state approval and eventually as many as 200,000 horses a year could be slaughtered for human consumption. Most of the meat would be shipped to countries in Europe and Asia, including France and Japan.
Dave Duquette, president of the nonprofit, pro-slaughter group United Horsemen, said no state or site has been picked yet but he's lined up plenty of investors who have expressed interest in financing a processing plant. While the last three slaughterhouses in the U.S. were owned by foreign companies, he said a new plant would be American-owned.
"I have personally probably five to 10 investors that I could call right now if I had a plant ready to go," said Duquette, who lives in Hermiston, Ore. He added, "If one plant came open in two weeks, I'd have enough money to fund it. I've got people who will put up $100,000."
Sue Wallis, a Wyoming state lawmaker who's the group's vice president, said ranchers used to be able to sell horses that were too old or unfit for work to slaughterhouses but now they have to ship them to butchers in Canada and Mexico, where they fetch less than half the price.
The federal ban devastated "an entire sector of animal agriculture for purely sentimental and romantic notions," she said.
Although there are reports of Americans dining on horse meat a recently as the 1940s, the practice is virtually non-existent in this country, where the animals are treated as beloved pets and iconic symbols of the West.
Lawmakers in California and Illinois have banned the slaughter of horses for human consumption, and more than a dozen states tightly regulate the sale of horse meat.
Federal lawmakers' lifting of the ban on funding for horse meat inspections came about in part because of the recession, which struck just as slaughtering stopped. A federal report issued in June found that local animal welfare organizations reported a spike in investigations for horse neglect and abandonment since 2007. In Colorado, for example, data showed that investigations for horse neglect and abuse increased more than 60 percent — from 975 in 2005 to almost 1,600 in 2009.
The report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office also determined that about 138,000 horses were transported to Canada and Mexico for slaughter in 2010, nearly the same number that were killed in the U.S. before the ban took effect in 2007. The U.S. has an estimated 9 million horses.
Cheri White Owl, founder of the nonprofit Horse Feathers Equine Rescue in Guthrie, Okla., said she's seen more horse neglect during the recession. Her group is caring for 33 horses now and can't accept more.
"A lot of the situation is due to the economy," she said, "People deciding to pay their mortgage or keep their horse."
But White Owl worries that if slaughterhouses open, owners will dump their unwanted animals there instead of looking for alternatives, such as animal sanctuaries.
Animal rights groups also argue that slaughtering is a messy, cruel process, and some say it would be kinder for owners to have their horses put to sleep by a veterinarian.
"Euthanasia has always been an option," Pacelle said. But "if you acquire a horse, you should be a responsible owner and provide lifetime care."
The fight over horse slaughtering has pitted lawmakers of the same party against each other.
Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., said the poor economy has resulted in "sad cases" of horse abandonment and neglect and lifting the ban will give Americans a shot at regaining lost jobs and making sure sick horses aren't abandoned or mistreated.
But U.S. Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va., is lobbying colleagues to permanently ban horse slaughter because he believes the process is inhumane.
"I am committed to doing everything in my power to prevent the resumption of horse slaughter and will force Congress to debate this important policy in an open, democratic manner at every opportunity," he said in a statement.
Bože kakva drama :roll: . Konji jesu lepe životinje ali su i ukusni, ne znam kako su SAD uopšte stigle do zabrane...
Quote from: zakk on 30-11-2011, 19:36:50
Bože kakva drama :roll: . Konji jesu lepe životinje ali su i ukusni, ne znam kako su SAD uopšte stigle do zabrane...
Nadam se da Mića ne dolazi na ovaj topik.
čujem da su malo žilavi.
gde u bg može da se proba dobra konjetina?
Pazi, ima da se *kupi* meso i kobasice i slično u dve mesare na Kaleniću, jednoj na Cvetku, i verovatno još kojekuda. Ne znam kafanu/restoran gde služe konjetinu.
hm, s mesom ne znam šta bih radio i kako ga spremao, al kobasce, to bi se moglo probati... :!:
Kolko kinti kila? To je nekad bilo budzašto pa se naprasno pozlatilo.
Nikada to nije bilo jeftino, a što se upotrebe tiče najbolje je za gulaš. Priprema se isto kao i od govedine.
Ma daj, devedesetih je konjetina bila ko piletina. Bila mi konjska mesara u komšiluku.
Moj deda bio konjski mesar (samo Mića da ovo ne pročita), od konjetine kupio i bratov salaš i moju kuću...
Šta znam, možda ti deda klao lipicanere. Ovaj naš garant matore rage.
Pa dobro, ti si možda u pravu ako pričaš o devedesetima. Tada se moj deda već uveliko bavio nebeskim pašnjacima...
Jeste vid'li gde je objavljena vest? Tulsa, OK. Da znate koliko im je visoka trava, ako se po njoj kriju bufala? Mogli bi i slonove da gaje i prave odreske.
Ih, kriju se bafala. Treba samo pustiti zemlju u parlog i eto ga bafalo.
Quote from: Steva Lazin Ljuštikin on 30-11-2011, 20:23:41
Kolko kinti kila? To je nekad bilo budzašto pa se naprasno pozlatilo.
Kobaje su oko 400din/kg, sa mesom se nisam baktao, al javnem kad pogledam.
а ако хоћеш да пробаш у неком ресторану, онда ти препоручујем 'потковицу' у голдсвортијевој, имају изузетан тартар бифтек.
Dejane, tatar biftek.
Pa, da, vi udarili brigu na veselje, a vidite ovo:
Čovek je bio šerif i to ne bilo kakav, 2001. godine je dobio titulu Šerifa Godine od Nacionalne Asocijacije Šerifa. Onda se penzionisao i sada je u pritvoru i to u zatvoru koji nosi
njegovo ime. Čeka suđenje uz kauciju od 250.000 američkih dolara. Njegov zločin? Želeo je da ima homoseksualni koitus sa muškarcem i da tu uslugu plati narkoticima umesto novcem... I to čovek koji je do 2008. godine bio u radnoj grupi koja je pravila programe i planove za suzbijanje zloupotrebe metamfetamina u Koloradu. Ameriko... nije tebi lako.
Former "sheriff of the year" arrested and sent to jail named after him (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/former-sheriff-arrested-sent-jail-named-him-153854700.html)
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Every civil servant wants to experience his or her legacy firsthand--but not the way that onetime Arapahoe Sheriff Patrick J. Sullivan Jr. has. Sullivan, a nationally renowned law enforcement leader, was arrested on drug charges and is now being detained in the Denver area jail that bears his name.
Sullivan, who in 2001 was named the National Sheriff Association's "Sheriff of the Year," was arrested on suspicion of trafficking methamphetamines.
Local news station CBS4 began an investigation (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=13h2mfpv4/EXP=1323938151/**http%3A//denver.cbslocal.com/2011/11/29/former-arapahoe-county-sheriff-arrested-on-drug-charge/) of Sullivan last month on a tip that he had agreed to meet a male informant, providing drugs in exchange for sex. He was subsequently arrested by the South Metro Drug Task Force and is currently being held on a $250,000 bond.
And in an incredible twist of fate, Sullivan now cooling his heels atThe Patrick J. Sullivan Jr. Detention Facility, named in his honor.
"The allegations of criminal behavior involving Pat Sullivan are extraordinarily disturbing," said Grayson Robinson, Arapahoe County's current sheriff. "While the arrest of the former sheriff is very troubling, no one, and particularly a former peace officer, is above the law. This is the most shocking thing I've ever been involved with."
Sullivan, 68, has been retired for nine years, but had been serving as director of safety and security for Cherry Creek Schools.
"This is a very sad time for the Arapahoe County Sheriff's Office and our community," Robinson said. The CBS4 report also found that for several years Sullivan has posted bond for multiple suspects held in drug cases at jail facilities across the state.
As recently as 2008, Sullivan was an active participant in state and local methamphetamine task forces, helping Colorado draft a plan to deal with the surge in meth-related crime.
In 1995 President Bill Clinton named Sullivan to the National Commission on Crime Prevention and Control. According to a 1995 White House news release, Sullivan was a consultant to U.S. House Subcommittee on Crime and served on two advisory councils affiliated with the Department of Justice.
Nije čovek kriv što je prepoznao i koristio prednosti "američkog sistema vrednosti". :mrgreen:
да, пардон :(
Šta je tatar biftek???? Kao tartar biftek samo od konja?
Amerika na ivici propasti!!!!!!!!!!! Zapravo, nezaposlenost im je pala na najniži nivo u poslednje dve i po godine. (http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm) Mada stručnjaci upozoravaju da ne treba suviše da se lože, da je ovo za sada 'babl' itd. i da mnogo toga mora da se menja da bi se stvari vraćale na pravu stranu. (http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daniel-gross/november-jobs-report-curb-enthusiasm-142920148.html)
U drugim vestima: nastavnica u Oklahomi uhapšena i biće optužena za proizvodnju dečije pornografije i opscene radnje sa decom jer je devojčice iz trećeg osnovne, na nekoj proslavi slikala u donjem vešu... (http://news.yahoo.com/oklahoma-teacher-photographed-kids-lingerie-arrested-225453115.html)
Šta li bi bilo da ih je slikala na školskom bazenu? Kako li se to uopšte rešava - ako imaju bezbednosne kamere tamo, imaju i snimke dečice u kupaćim gaćicama?
Pitanje je fer, mada mislim da je tu poenta u tome ko može da ima pristup tim snimcima i šta se sa njima radi. Ovde je, ako si videla vest, problem što je nastavnica apparently nagovorila decu da se skinu u veš i onda ih slikala telefonom..
Ne da se skinu, OBUKU u veš.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 02-12-2011, 19:57:50
Pitanje je fer, mada mislim da je tu poenta u tome ko može da ima pristup tim snimcima i šta se sa njima radi. Ovde je, ako si videla vest, problem što je nastavnica apparently nagovorila decu da se skinu u veš i onda ih slikala telefonom..
Kapiram koja je poenta, i stvarno ne vidim ama baš nikakav razlog da učiteljica traži malim devojčicama da budu u donjem vešu pa da ih tako slika, samo se pitam koliko daleko sa pravilima Ameri idu, ludi kakvi već umeju da budu. A i pitam se, ako snimci goluždrave dečice ma iz kojeg razloga postoje, kako misle da budu stoprocentno sigurni da to neće dospeti u pogrešne ruke i biti zloupotrebljeno.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread781932/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread781932/pg1)
Kad smo već kod donjeg veša
84-year-old angry over strip search at NY airport (http://news.yahoo.com/84-old-angry-over-strip-search-ny-airport-161441311.html)
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NEW YORK (AP) — An 84-year-old New York grandmother says she was injured and humiliated during a strip search at a New York City airport.
Lenore Zimmerman says she was on her way to a flight to Fort Lauderdale, Fla. She says she was searched after she asked to forgo body the scanners because she worried it would interfere with her defibrillator.
She says she is hunched over, weighs about 110 pounds and is going to be 85 in February. "Do I look like a terrorist?" she asked. She says the screener made her take off her pants.
She says she banged her shin and it bled during the ordeal at Kennedy Airport. The Transportation Security Administration says she was not strip searched. A TSA statement says a review of closed-circuit television footage shows proper procedures were followed.
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Svlače sitnu đecu, svlače bakutanere, kreše li taj narod nešto?
Sve što svuku.
Amerika na ivici propasti 1: diskriminacija američkih studenata azijskog porekla je stvaran fenomen!!! (http://news.yahoo.com/asians-college-strategy-dont-check-asian-174442977.html)
Amerika na ivici propasti 2: Otac koji se napio pa angažovao devetogodišnju ćeru da ga vozika naokolo (ne bi valjalo da vozi pijan, jelte) kaže da to... nije bila dobra ideja. (http://news.yahoo.com/father-letting-9-old-drive-mistake-184121167.html)
I ne samo Amerika...
David Attenborough weighs in on the consequences of climate change — but you won't hear him in the U.S. The final episode of
Frozen Planet (http://io9.com/frozen-planet/) — the popular new series from the creators of
Planet Earth — addresses the impending threat of climate change on the Earth's poles. In the episode, which will air on BBC One on December 7th, narrator David Attenborough is expected to claim that the Arctic could be completely devoid of ice by 2020.
But in the US, the episode will not air, for fear of the reaction it might draw from America's climate change skeptics. In fact, as of mid-November, the BBC had sold the documentary series to over 30 foreign networks, and a third of them had opted out of the controversial final episode.
In a recent interview with the BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15994284), Attenborough weighed in about what he hopes people will take away from the
Frozen Planet series:
Part of television is to reveal the world...the truth about the world, and both its beauties and its dangers and its splendors and we are understanding increasingly that these two regions of the world — which a tiny minority of the human race can get to — are actually going to have a great influence on our future, on the future of
homo sapiens, if not the future of London. It's not beyond possibility that warming will actually cause sea level rises which could threaten central London.
In other words, it sounds as though what is perhaps the most salient episode of the series has been omitted from the American broadcast entirely.
Former Tory chancellor and climate change skeptic recently accused Attenborough of sensationalism (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2067871/David-Attenborough-accused-climate-change-sensationalism-Lord-Lawson.html) over the state of the environment. "Sir David Attenborough is one of our finest journalists and a great expert on animal life," said Lawson. "Unfortunately, however, when it comes to global warming he seems to prefer sensation to objectivity."
Asked if there is a risk of coming off as too alarmist when talking about climate change, Attenborough replied:
I try not to, but I think the stakes are very high. The issue as to whether or not human beings are responsible for the increase in temperature, the change in climate, is actually irrelevant in my opinion. The fact is that we know these changes are happening and the evidence for that is incontrovertible; and as far as we can see ahead, if they go on, they will have catastrophic effects on the human race.
I, for one, am supremely disappointed at the prospect of the U.S. missing out on an entire episode of the critically acclaimed series, especially based on the worthless reasoning that "it's controversial." Controversy is good. Controversy begets conversation and progress. If Attenborough
does come off as alarmist, allow people the opportunity to interpret that on their own, and others to respond to it in turn. I can't think of a worse way to handle the situation than to not air it at all.
Watch the rest of the interview with Attenborough over at BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15994284).
Možda neki centri moći u Americi zapravo priželjkuju globalno zagrevanje, i otapanje ledenog pokrivača? Najviše će stradati siromašni i prenaseljeni u toplim predelima, ali možda je to i cilj?
Ne, nego centri moći veruju da se Zemlja neće ukvariti za njihova života. Za njih je to roba kojoj može da se prelepi rok trajanja.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/jobless-iowa-third-state-unemployed-looking-six-months-130045235.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/jobless-iowa-third-state-unemployed-looking-six-months-130045235.html)
Jobless in Iowa: a third of the state's unemployed have been looking for work for six months or more
a komentari su depresivni
jao bre, njima je osoba siromašna kada nema dva automobila
Nisi u toku, to je tako nekad bilo. Danas je siromašan onaj ko ima tri posla, a dva posla je normalno.
nije šija nego vrat, ne rade oni dva posla jer sa jednim crkavaju od gladi već što im to nije dovoljno za njihove šoping snove
to je ono što su sociolozi već nazvali new poor, Zygmunt Bauman na primjer...
i jebote, u Ajovi je procenat nezaposlenosti 6%, o čemu pričamo uopšte... depresivni su jer ih je 6%
Repriza onoga što smo već videli pre godinu dana:
Tennessee family home burns while firefighters watch (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/tennessee-family-home-burns-while-firefighters-watch-191241763.html)
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A Tennessee couple helplessly watched their home burn to the ground, along with all of their possessions, (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=15983qc0v/EXP=1324457738/**http%3A//hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HOME_LEFT_TO_BURN%3FSITE=AP%26%2338;SECTION=HOME%26%2338;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT%26%2338;CTIME=2011-12-06-13-23-49) because they did not pay a $75 annual fee to the local fire department.
Vicky Bell told the NBC affiliate WPSD-TV (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=13h6s9klj/EXP=1324457738/**http%3A//www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Home-burns-while-firefighters-watch-again-135069773.html) that she called 911 when her mobile home in Obion County caught fire. Firefighters arrived on the scene but as the fire raged, they simply stood by and did nothing. "In an emergency, the first thing you think of, 'Call 9-1-1," homeowner Bell said. However, Bell and her husband were forced to walk into the burning home in an attempt to retrieve their own belongings. "You could look out my mom's trailer and see the trucks sitting at a distance," Bell said. "We just wished we could've gotten more out."
South Fulton Mayor David Crocker defended the fire department, saying that if firefighters responded to non-subscribers, no one would have an incentive to pay the fee. Residents in the city of South Fulton receive the service automatically, but it is not extended to those living in the greater county-wide area.
"There's no way to go to every fire and keep up the manpower, the equipment, and just the funding for the fire department," Crocker said.
The South Fulton policy produced precisely the same nightmare scenario last year, when homeowner Gene Cranick--who had likewise failed to pay the $75 annual fee for rural Obion County residents--saw his house engulfed by flames as South Fulton firefighter watched close by. That incident sparked a debate (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/rural-tennessee-fire-sparks-conservative-ideological-debate.html) among conservative pundits over the limits of fee-for-service approaches to government.
For his part, Mayor Crocker stressed that the city's firefighters will help people in danger, even those who haven't paid the fee. "After the last situation, I would hope that everybody would be well aware of the rural fire fees, this time," Crocker said.
Mislim... faking inseniti.
Što inseniti? Postoje dva načina da vatrogasci imaju resurse da rade svoj posao. Prvi je da im neko plati, a drugi je da im neko drugi plati. Način republikanaca je da svako ima slobodu da plaća šta hoće, i onda živi sa svojim izborom. Način demokrata je da su neka izdavanja obavezna, i da tu nema izbora. Demokrate bi mogle da nateraju ovu porodicu na plaća godišnje troškove, a onda bi republikanci uleteli vikajući ne faking inseniti nego faking komjunizm!
Ne, ne, to je jasno, ne kažem zbog toga faking inseniti, nego zbog ovoga:
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she called 911 when her mobile home in Obion County caught fire. Firefighters arrived on the scene but as the fire raged, they simply stood by and did nothing.
Pa ovo je ko Monti Pajton!!! Mislim, razumeo bih da joj kažu "izvinjavajte, gospodžo, ali niste životno ugroženi a pošto ne plaćate, nećemo dolaziti", ali da dođu i onda stoje i gledaju, pa to je nadrealistički humor!!! Iako uvažavam da je to verovatno da bi se uverili da zaista niko neće umrijeti u ognju, ali ipak, scena je... ludačka.
Vatrogasci su se normalno odazvali, oni vole da jurcaju i cin-ci-linci po ulicama, znaju da se odazovu iz dve različite stanice samo da bi pravili buku. E, ovi vatrogasci su usput dobili naređenje da ne deluju. Ne treba se tamo ničemu čuditi. Posebno kako je u zdravstvu. Ako ti nije na spisku osiguranja ni puklo slepo crevo ti neće izvaditi.
Pa, jasno, jasno, ali da li će lekar da dođe kod tebe i da te gleda kako umireš i da ti govori "Epajebiga, brate, trebo si da platiš!!"
Vatrogasci dođu i staraju se da se vatra ne proširi na okolnu prirodu, i susedne platiše.
Jasno. Ali vizuelno, kakva je to scena!!!
QuoteFor his part, Mayor Crocker stressed that the city's firefighters will help people in danger, even those who haven't paid the fee. "After the last situation, I would hope that everybody would be well aware of the rural fire fees, this time," Crocker said.
Pomoći će ugroženim ljudima, a posedi nek gore.
(Slažem se da je neumno)
plati pa klati.
ni kod babe nema džabe (tako kažu, nisam pito, evo meho će to znati bolje).
Ma to je čista laž. Ali slađe je kad se plati, znaš da nemaš obaveze onda, pa se oblaporno prepustiš čistom uživanju.
Genocid protiv svega što je srpsko se nastavlja. Rod Blagojević dobio 14 godina teške robije:
Blagojevich Sentenced to 14 Years (http://news.yahoo.com/judgment-day-blagojevich-sentencing-161754110.html)
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A federal judge today sentenced impeached Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich to 14 years in prison, giving little weight to Blagojevich's first-ever apology this morning since his arrest three years ago.
"The jury didn't believe you and neither did I," U.S. District Court Judge James Zagel said.
Blagojevich was convicted on 18 corruption charges, including the scheme to peddle the vacated Senate seat of Barack Obama.
Blagojevich started the day telling the court that he was "unbelievably sorry" for his "terrible mistakes," his last chance to convince the federal judge that he deserved some mercy when he was sentenced on corruption charges.
"I'm here convicted of crimes. The jury decided I was guilty. I am accepting of it. I acknowledge it..." Blagojevich told Zagel. "I want to apologize to the people of Illinois, to the court, for the mistakes I have made. ... I never set out to break the law. "I never set out to cross lines. I have nobody to blame but myself for my stupidity and actions and the things I did and I thought I could do. I'm not blaming anybody," Blagojevich said.
Prosecutors argued that he has failed the people of Illinois and instead "further eroded the public's confidence in government and government officials."
"He knew from a very early date exactly what he could do to help the people of Illinois and he didn't do it," federal prosecutor Reid Schar said. "Instead, what he did was first to seek personal benefits, jobs, millions of dollars, and things for him in relation to the Senate seat.
"He lied repeatedly, concretely, and on issues that went to the heart of the case and he lied on every episode that he was questioned," Schar said. "He is incredibly manipulative, and he knows how to be."
In setting a conciliatory note, Blagojevich's lawyers have already admitted - for the first time - that it was against the law for Blagojevich to seek a high-level Washington job in return for an appointment to Barack Obama's vacated Senate seat. They also made a case for mercy, reading letters from Blagojevich's wife and oldest daughter.
His wife, Patti, cried Tuesday during the first day of the sentencing hearing as a defense attorney read her plea to U.S. District Judge James Zagel: "The punishment that he fears the most, one that would be most devastating would be that he would not be able to see his daughters grow. Please be merciful."
Defense lawyers argued that because Blagojevich received no money in his assorted schemes to peddle his power, he does not deserve extended time behind bars: "We are asking for the lowest sentence possible."
Judge Zagel earlier sided with prosecutors in key rulings that could help determine the prison sentence. Zagel agreed that evidence showed supporters of U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., D-Ill., were offering $1.5 million in campaign contributions in exchange for the Senate appointment, a dollar figure that factors into sentencing even though Blagojevich never got the money.
Zagel also agreed that federal guidelines allow for a maximum term of 30 years to life, although such a lengthy term "would be simply not appropriate in the context of this case."
Former federal prosecutor Ronald Safer expects Zagel to hand down a sentence of 12 to 15 years, he told ABC News, sending a strong message of deterrence to corrupt politicians that "those of you out for personal gain will be separated from your families for a very, very long time."
Since the 1970s, three former Illinois governors have been sent to prison, not to mention several others who have gotten in trouble with the law.
If Blagojevich is sent to jail today, he will join George Ryan, a Republican who was governor from 1999 to 2003, who is serving a prison sentence. After a scandal involving the illegal sale of government licenses, contracts and leases by state employees, Ryan was convicted of corruption in 2006.
But Ryan was merely following in the footsteps of those who came before him. Otto Kerner Jr., a Democrat who was governor from 1961 to 1968, was convicted in 1973 on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury and related charges.
Dan Walker, a Democrat who was governor from 1973 to 1977, pleaded guilty to bank fraud, misapplication of funds and perjury in 1987. Walker was sentenced to seven years in prison.
ABC News' Olivia Katrandjian contributed to this report.
Reportaža iz tajnog CIA zatvora iz Rumunije:
AP Exclusive: Inside Romania's secret CIA prison (http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-inside-romanias-secret-cia-prison-050239912.html)
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WASHINGTON (AP) — In northern Bucharest, in a busy residential neighborhood minutes from the heart of the capital city, is a secret the Romanian government has long tried to protect.
For years, the CIA used a government building — codenamed "Bright Light" — as a makeshift prison for its most valuable detainees. There it held al-Qaida operatives Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11, and others in a basement prison before they were ultimately transferred to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in 2006, according to former U.S. intelligence officials familiar with the location and inner workings of the prison.
The existence of a CIA prison in Romania has been widely reported, but its location has never been made public. The Associated Press and German public television ARD located the former prison and learned details of the facility where harsh interrogation tactics were used. ARD's program on the CIA prison is set to air Thursday.
The Romanian prison was part of a network of so-called black sites that the CIA operated and controlled overseas in Thailand, Lithuania and Poland. All the prisons were closed by May 2006, and the CIA's detention and interrogation program ended in 2009.
Unlike the CIA's facility in Lithuania's countryside or the one hidden in a Polish military installation, the CIA's prison in Romania was not in a remote location. It was hidden in plain sight, a couple blocks off a major boulevard on a street lined with trees and homes, along busy train tracks.
The building is used as the National Registry Office for Classified Information, which is also known as ORNISS. Classified information from NATO and the European Union is stored there. Former intelligence officials both described the location of the prison and identified pictures of the building.
In an interview at the building in November, senior ORNISS official Adrian Camarasan said the basement is one of the most secure rooms in all of Romania. But he said Americans never ran a prison there.
"No, no. Impossible, impossible," he said in an ARD interview for its "Panorama" news broadcast, as a security official monitored the interview.
The CIA prison opened for business in the fall of 2003, after the CIA decided to empty the black site in Poland, according to former U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the detention program with reporters.
Shuttling detainees into the facility without being seen was relatively easy. After flying into Bucharest, the detainees were brought to the site in vans. CIA operatives then drove down a side road and entered the compound through a rear gate that led to the actual prison.
The detainees could then be unloaded and whisked into the ground floor of the prison and into the basement.
The basement consisted of six prefabricated cells, each with a clock and arrow pointing to Mecca, the officials said. The cells were on springs, keeping them slightly off balance and causing disorientation among some detainees.
The CIA declined to comment on the prison.
During the first month of their detention, the detainees endured sleep deprivation and were doused with water, slapped or forced to stand in painful positions, several former officials said. Waterboarding, the notorious interrogation technique that simulates drowning, was not performed in Romania, they said.
After the initial interrogations, the detainees were treated with care, the officials said. The prisoners received regular dental and medical checkups. The CIA shipped in Halal food to the site from Frankfurt, Germany, the agency's European center for operations. Halal meat is prepared under religious rules similar to kosher food.
Former U.S. officials said that because the building was a government installation, it provided excellent cover. The prison didn't need heavy security because area residents knew it was owned by the government. People wouldn't be inclined to snoop in post-communist Romania, with its extensive security apparatus known for spying on the country's own citizens.
Human rights activists have urged the Eastern European countries to investigate the roles their governments played in hosting the prisons in which interrogation techniques such as waterboarding were used. Officials from these countries continue to deny these prisons ever existed.
"We know of the criticism, but we have no knowledge of this subject," Romanian President Traian Basescu said in a September interview with AP.
The CIA has tried to close the book on the detention program, which President Barack Obama ended shortly after taking office.
"That controversy has largely subsided," the CIA's top lawyer, Stephen Preston, said at a conference this month.
But details of the prison network continue to trickle out through investigations by international bodies, reporters and human rights groups. "There have been years of official denials," said Dick Marty, a Swiss lawmaker who led an investigation into the CIA secret prisons for the Council of Europe. "We are at last beginning to learn what really happened in Bucharest."
During the Council of Europe's investigation, Romania's foreign affairs minister assured investigators in a written report that, "No public official or other person acting in an official capacity has been involved in the unacknowledged deprivation of any individual, or transport of any individual while so deprived of their liberty." That report also described several other government investigations into reports of a secret CIA prison in Romania and said: "No such activities took place on Romanian territory."
Reporters and human rights investigators have previously used flight records to tie Romania to the secret prison program. Flight records for a Boeing 737 known to be used by the CIA showed a flight from Poland to Bucharest in September 2003. Among the prisoners on board, according to former CIA officials, were Mohammed and Walid bin Attash, who has been implicated in the bombing of the USS Cole.
Later, other detainees — Ramzi Binalshibh, Abd al-Nashiri and Abu Faraj al-Libi — were also moved to Romania. A deceptive al-Libi, who was taken to the prison in June 2005, provided information that would later help the CIA identify Osama bin Laden's trusted courier, a man who unwittingly led them the CIA to bin Laden himself.
Court documents recently discovered in a lawsuit have also added to the body of evidence pointing to a CIA prison in Romania. The files show CIA contractor Richmor Aviation Inc., a New York-based charter company, operated flights to and from Romania along with other locations including Morocco and the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay.
For the CIA officers working at the secret prison, the assignment wasn't glamorous. The officers served 90-day tours, slept on the compound and ate their meals there, too. Officers were prevented from the leaving the base after their presence in the neighborhood stoked suspicion. One former officer complained that the CIA spent most of its time baby-sitting detainees like Binalshibh and Mohammed whose intelligence value diminished as the years passed.
The Romanian and Lithuanian sites were eventually closed in the first half of 2006 before CIA Director Porter Goss left the job. Some of the detainees were taken to Kabul, where the CIA could legally hold them before they were sent to Guantanamo. Others were sent back to their native countries.
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Associated Press writer Desmond Butler contributed to this report.
Remains of 274 troops dumped in landfill (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MISHANDLED_REMAINS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-12-07-21-52-14)
:shock:
ovo me podsjeti na jednu SF priču gdje su vojnici i nakon smrti se morali boriti... tek nakon što su tri puta ubijeni imaju pravo na mirni počinak :( :cry:
Seirimo! Iran savatao američku dron letelicu:
Iran releases video of downed U.S. spy drone–looking intact (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/iran-releases-images-downed-u-spy-drone-171144210.html)
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Iran's Press TV on Thursday broadcast an extended video tour (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=11sbemu8c/EXP=1324628444/**http%3A//www.presstv.ir/detail/214542.html) of the U.S. spy drone that went down in the country--and it indeed appeared to look mostly intact.
American officials have acknowledged that an unmanned U.S. reconnaissance plane was lost on a mission (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/isaf-u-spy-drone-iran-claims-brought-down-195224233.html#more-5868) late last week, but have insisted that there is no evidence the drone was downed by hostile acts (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/cyber-experts-pentagon-skeptical-iran-brought-down-u-205358251.html#more-5901) by Iran. Rather, they said, the drone likely went down because of a malfunction, and they implied the advanced stealth reconnaissance plane would likely have fallen from such a high altitude--the RQ-170 Sentinel can fly as high as 50,000 feet--that it wouldn't be in good shape.
But Iranian military officials have claimed since Sunday that they brought down an American spy drone that was little damaged. And now they have provided the first visual images of what looks to be a drone that at least outwardly appears to be in decent condition, in what is surely another humiliating poke in the eye for U.S. national security agencies.
The Pentagon declined to comment on the released images Thursday, a Defense Department spokesman told Yahoo News. But military analysts said it appeared to them to be the American drone in question.
"I have been doing this for thirty years, and it sure looks like" a stealthy U.S. drone to me," Loren Thompson, a military analyst with the Lexington Institute and consultant to the RQ-170's manufacturer, Lockheed Martin, told Yahoo News in a telephone interview Thursday. "I think we are going to face the high likelihood that Iran has an intact version of one of our most important intelligence gathering tools."
Still, Thompson went on, the intelligence "windfall" to Iran from obtaining the advanced U.S. stealthy drone may be mitigated.
"I don't think the Iranians get as much out of it as they might hope," he said. "It probably came into their hands as a result of a technical malfunction. What that means is they still don't have a real defense against the U.S. flying other vehicles that have similar capabilities, without much fear of interception."
Analysts also noted that the video of the drone released by Iran did not show the drone's underside. "Pretty intact," the Center for Strategic and International Studies' James Lewis said by email. "Interesting that they covered the underside."
The New York Times reported (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=14k6h9ena/EXP=1324628444/**http%3A//www.nytimes.com/2011/12/08/world/middleeast/drone-crash-in-iran-reveals-secret-us-surveillance-bid.html%3F_r=1%26%2338;hp) Thursday that--unsurprisingly--the RQ-170 was lost while making the latest foray over Iran during an extended CIA surveillance effort of Iran's nuclear and ballistic weapons program.
"The overflights by the bat-winged RQ-170 Sentinel, built by Lockheed Martin and first glimpsed on an airfield in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in 2009, are part of an increasingly aggressive intelligence collection program aimed at Iran, current and former officials say," the Times' Scott Shane and David Sanger wrote. "The urgency of the effort has been underscored by a recent public debate in Israel about whether time is running out for a military strike to slow Iran's progress toward a nuclear weapon."
Iran in turn has complained that the drone overflights represent an act of aggression and violation of its sovereignty, and summoned (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=11sbemu8c/EXP=1324628444/**http%3A//www.presstv.ir/detail/214542.html) the Swiss envoy--who represents U.S. interests in Iran--on Thursday to lodge a protest.
However, while the images of the U.S. drone surely allowed Iran to score another public relations blow against Washington, Iran may find it tough to generate much in the way of international sympathy for being the target of U.S. surveillance.
Last week, Iranian hardliners ransacked the British embassy in Tehran, prompting the United Kingdom to recall its diplomatic staff from Tehran and order Iran's embassy in London closed. Last month, the UN atomic watchdog agency issued a report raising concerns about research Iran is suspected by some nations to have conducted before 2003 on military aspects of its nuclear program. Iran has insisted its nuclear program is for peaceful energy purposes. In October, the United States accused elements of Iran's Qods force of plotting to assassinate the Saudi envoy to the United States. The United Nations General Assembly voted last month in favor of a resolution condemning the Iranian plot.
Amid its growing international isolation, Iran, unsurprisingly, seemed intent to play up the drone incident for all it could.
"China, Russia want to inspect downed U.S. drone," proclaimed a headline from Iran's Mehr (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=12fu5cctb/EXP=1324628444/**http%3A//www.mehrnews.com/en/newsdetail.aspx%3FNewsID=1478316) news agency Thursday.
The RQ-170 Sentinel, however, reportedly did not use the latest U.S. surveillance technology on board, in part because as a single-engine aircraft, it was thought more likely to occasionally go down.
"The basic principles of stealthy aircraft are fairly well known," Thompson said. "In terms of [the drone's] on-board electronics and information systems, it is fairly routine in combat to require authentication codes to make them hard to unlock."
Reconnaissance plane? Poetika žanra? xfrog
Amerika na ivici propasti 1: Čitaoci magazina Men's Health izglasali Dženifer Eniston za najseksepilniju ženu ikad. (http://movies.yahoo.com/news/jennifer-aniston-voted-hottest-woman-time-184651500.html)Mislim, dobro, ukusi su neraspravljivi i plemenito je kako urednik objašnjava da je kod nje seksi to što je duhovita, ali ipak...
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Amerika na ivici propasti 2 (mada je ovo moglo i u Može l' biti gluplja): žena inscenirala silovanje da bi ubedila muža da se odsele u bolji kraj grada. (http://news.yahoo.com/calif-prison-psychologist-accused-faking-rape-204223257.html)
Nearly 20% of women in the US are raped, study reveals (https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbcimg.co.uk%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2F57338000%2Fjpg%2F_57338673_008328395-1.jpg&hash=175ed875a227ad435574f17385d55e590f196a7f) The study revealed that sexual violence against men is also prevalent Continue reading the main story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16192494#story_continues_1) Related Stories
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Nearly 20% of women in the US are raped or suffer attempted rape at some point in their lives, a US study says.
Even more women, estimated at 25%, have been attacked by a partner or husband, the Centers for Disease Control said.
The findings form part of the first set of results from a nationwide study surveying sexual violence by intimate partners against men and women.
More than 24 people a minute reported rape, violence, or stalking, it says, with 12 million offences reported.
Experts at the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) described the results of the first year of the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (http://www.cdc.gov/ViolencePrevention/NISVS/index.html) as "astounding".
Among the key figures included in the survey's findings were:
- more than one million women reported being raped in the 12 months prior to the survey
- more than six million women and men were a victim of stalking
- more than 12 million women and men reported rape, physical violence or stalking by an intimate partner over the course of a year.
Lifelong hurt "People who experience sexual violence, stalking or intimate partner violence often deal with the effects for their entire life," said Dr Linda Degutis, director of CDC's National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.
Many of those attacked experience rape or sexual assault in their early years, with almost 80% of rape victims suffering their ordeal before the age of 25.
Some 35% of women raped before they were aged 18 were also raped as adults, Dr Degutis added.
Among the effects measured by the study, Dr Degutis said, were increased fears for safety and incidents of post-traumatic stress among victims.
Clinical conditions including asthma, irritable bowel syndrome, diabetes, frequent headaches, chronic pain and difficulty sleeping were also more likely in women who are raped or subject to assault.
There were also clear findings about the incidences of attacks on men and observations about health impacts on men who suffer rape or sexual assault.
An estimated one in 71 men has been raped at some point in their lives, the study finds.
Almost 53% of male victims experienced some form of intimate partner violence for the first time before the age of 25. Some 25% of male rape victims were first raped when they were 10 years old or younger, the findings show.
ništa ja njima ne vjerujem
kako je rekao jedan američki stand-up komičar, danas su ''nefunkcionalne porodice'' većina u Americi, dakle funkcionalne porodice su nenormalne
Total Biscuit edukuje malo ljude o uzasu koji je SOPA
WTF is SOPA ? aka The American Government trying to ruin the internet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM#ws)
Lepo. Pisali smo o tome na drugom topiku onomad. Ali lepo imati i vidoje.
Nego, druga tema: ril lajf horor u Ameriki:
Woman set afire in elevator of her NYC building (http://news.yahoo.com/woman-set-afire-elevator-her-nyc-building-030847233.html)
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NEW YORK (AP) — A woman burned to death in the elevator of her Brooklyn apartment building Saturday after a man ambushed her, sprayed her with liquid and set her afire with a Molotov cocktail, police said.
The unidentified man was waiting for 64-year-old Doris Gillespie, when the elevator doors opened to her floor of the Prospect Heights building. The man sprayed her with an accelerant and set her on fire, New York City police spokesman Paul Browne said.
"It was apparent he knew she was on the elevator," he said.
No arrests had been made as of early Sunday, and police were still searching for the suspect.
The brutal attack happened shortly after 4 p.m., lasted about a minute and was recorded by two video cameras, including one inside the small elevator.
Brown said the video showed the elevator doors opening to the fifth floor where Gillespie's apartment was located and the assailant stepping in and spraying her.
Gillespie, who had grocery bags in her arms, turned about 180 degrees and then crouched in an attempted to protect herself, he said. But the man sprayed her directly in the face and continued to spray her "sort of methodically" over her head and parts of her body as the bags draped off her arms. She turned around and retreated to the back of the elevator.
At some point, Browne said, the suspect then pulled out a barbeque-style lighter, used it to ignite a rag in a bottle and then waited for a few seconds before using the flames to set her afire, causing smoke to fill the elevator.
The man backed out as she fell to the floor of the elevator, Browne said, and seemed to pause before tossing the bottle inside the elevator and onto her.
Browne would not comment on the motive in the killing, but said the suspect knew his victim.
Investigators believe the suspect fled down the stairs of the building, he said.
Police released still images of the man Saturday night, showing him in a black jacket, wearing what appear to be surgical gloves and with a white dust mask perched atop his head like a pair of sunglasses. He is holding what appears to be a canister with a nozzle and spraying as he steps into the elevator.
Neighbors reported a fire in the building, unaware that the woman was burning to death in the elevator.
Residents were evacuated from the six-story building for hours Saturday night.
Knjiga, film i TV su čudo. Tipični copycat.
Quote from: scallop on 18-12-2011, 16:53:41
Knjiga, film i TV su čudo. Tipični copycat.
samo još da nam skalop otkrije koji naslov je ovom prilikom navodno kopiran.
ja ovakvu scenu ne pamtim da sam negde video.
A, da te samo ignorišem?
tipični ignoramus.
pitaš ga ODAKLE JE KOPIRANO - i on zanemi.
i odma bi da ignoriše.
pa ignoriši, brate, ko ti brani?
Dobro.
pa i ja ne bih sad mogao da preciziram odakle je kopirano, ali sam u filmovima viđao ljude koji su se tako branili od napadača, dakle sprej i upaljač jeste već viđeno na filmu.
evo da ti ja pomognem: imaš npr u TRUE ROMANCE memorabilnu upotrebu laka za kosu + upaljač (u samoodbrani), ali to UOPŠTE nije ista situacija kao ova opisana gore.
sad, ja ne poričem da postoji neka takva, u nekom filmu, zato lepo i pitam: ODAKLE je to iskopirano.
mali je milion scena u kojima nekog živog poliju koječime i zapale, ali - da li je to dovoljno za usklik "tipični copycat"?
ovako studiozno?
na javnom mestu?
u liftu?
ne može filmski uradak da se upoređuje sa Rl situacijom, em što je u filmu scna potpuno kontrolisana a uz to ko zna koliko puta ponovljena, a ovaj amater je to morao da uradi iz prve. Dakle, to što u finesama ne lični na ovo ili ono ne znači da nije iskopirano. ko bi uopšte mogao da dođe do ideje da nekog ovako ubije a da nije vidio na ekranu?
American psycho.
Prvi na listi za poređenje je No Land for Old Men, po bizarnosti.
Razlog za ovo istrebljenje je dug od 2.000 dolara. Za ovakvo ubistvo radi primera ima milion uzora.
Šta vam se u Americi dogodi kada ste musliman i krenete avionom na konferenciju o diskriminaciji muslimana? Pa, naravno, izbace vas iz aviona. (http://news.yahoo.com/2-muslim-men-kicked-off-flight-sue-airlines-211044883.html)
A šta vam se desi kada hoćete da pomognete ženama koje žele da začnu a nemaju novca za tradicionalne banke sperme? Država vam pošalje naredbu da prekinete sa donacijama. (http://news.yahoo.com/feds-issue-warning-unconventional-sperm-donor-140811851.html)
Fašizam!!!!!!!!!!1
Edit: hoću da kažem, zanimljivo je ovo pitanje: država veli da po pravilima koja važe za zvanične donatore sperme, moraš da se testiraš na bolesti sedam dana pre davanja. I to zvuči smisleno, u tom smislu ovaj baja je u prekršaju i sve to. Ali, da je taj baja umesto da spermu šalje, istu isporučio direktno u tela pomenutih 14 žena (bar je toliko dece rođeno), ne bi bio ni u kakvom problemu... Hm?
Da je direktno žene ne bi mogle da tuže državu za nebrigu.
Ali da li mogu da tuže državu ovde? Ovaj se nije predstavljao kao da ima ikakvu državnu dozvolu da radi ovaj posao.
Da, pardon, pričao sam napamet. Sad sam pročitao tekst i postao pametniji. :idea: Mogli bi i mi da dignemo jedan ovakav sajt...
Nisam siguran da bi iko želeo moj DNK, ali ima nas ovde i boljih psihofizičkih predispozicija, tako da, samo napred.
Shoppers unhinge doors at US mall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iceg6be6Evc#ws)
Pučina je stoka jedna grdna 8-)
Све обојени! :lol:
Gledam na TV biznis dostignuća templara i kako su završili. Nekako mi se čini da je naš Dinkić "sredio" banke po receptu kralja Filipa, a ne znam ko bi mogao da odigra tu ulogu sa Wall Streetom. Demokratija mi se čini suviše korumpiranom i slabačkom za potez otimanja Svetog grala dužničkih kriza.
Quote from: Lord Kufer on 26-12-2011, 01:24:17
Pučina je stoka jedna grdna 8)
Quote from: Джон Рейнольдс on 26-12-2011, 10:33:59
Све обојени! :lol:
Quote from: Melkor on 24-12-2011, 22:40:50
неки купци у америку
некада, не тако давно, радио сам у фирми која је имала локал у новом меркатору. несрећно сам се задесио тамо на сам дан отварања, али са унутрашње стране. горњи снимак је отприлике приказује оно што сам тад видео.
није било обојених.
Imali smo i onu ludnicu sa kupusom za dinar prilikom otvaranja Ideje, mislim. I nikako ne zaboraviti tresnje.
Dok se neki biju za kupus, u SAD prodaja TV prijemnika i dalje raste, sa 32 miliona u 2004. na 44 miliona u 2011. Istovremeno, cena po inču dijagonale je pala sa 14,8$ na 12,1$, a prodavci kukaju, jer su za tih osam godina prodali po TV prijemnik svakom Amerikancu (preko 300 miliona).
Pa kad oni tamo imaju šta da gledaju :twisted: :cry:
Quote from: Melkor on 26-12-2011, 13:46:27
Imali smo i onu ludnicu sa kupusom za dinar prilikom otvaranja Ideje, mislim. I nikako ne zaboraviti tresnje.
И никако не заборавити бесплатан примерак "Имена руже" уз "Новости" кад је плануло све, па су се неки нацртали испред зграде "Борбе" тражећи га. И изјаве неке бабе, иначе очигледно велике обожаватељке писане речи, која рече да би онима који нису успели да дођу до књиге "Новости" требало бар да дају - новац!
Mislim da ovo treba shvatiti vrlo ozbiljno ili cak kao onda kada je Galactic Federacija postala Imperija a jadni Anakin presao na tamnu stranu :)
ACLU statement on Obama's signing of NDAA
President Obama Signs Indefinite Detention Bill Into Law
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 31, 2011
WASHINGTON – President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law today. The statute contains a sweeping worldwide indefinite detention provision. While President Obama issued a signing statement saying he had "serious reservations" about the provisions, the statement only applies to how his administration would use the authorities granted by the NDAA, and would not affect how the law is interpreted by subsequent administrations. The White House had threatened to veto an earlier version of the NDAA, but reversed course shortly before Congress voted on the final bill.
"President Obama's action today is a blight on his legacy because he will forever be known as the president who signed indefinite detention without charge or trial into law," said Anthony D. Romero, ACLU executive director. "The statute is particularly dangerous because it has no temporal or geographic limitations, and can be used by this and future presidents to militarily detain people captured far from any battlefield. The ACLU will fight worldwide detention authority wherever we can, be it in court, in Congress, or internationally." ..................
http://ggdrafts.blogspot.com/2011/12/aclu-statement-on-obamas-signing-of.html (http://ggdrafts.blogspot.com/2011/12/aclu-statement-on-obamas-signing-of.html)
Sad je "Poj'o ga mrak" sasvim legalno.
S druge strane, čovek pokušao da kupi usisivač u VolMartu novčanicom od milijun dolara. Doduše, sam ju je napravio...
Cops: Man tried to use $1M bill at NC Walmart (http://news.yahoo.com/cops-man-tried-1m-bill-nc-walmart-165050318.html)
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LEXINGTON, N.C. (AP) — Do you have change for a million-dollar bill?
Police say a North Carolina man insisted his million-dollar note was real when he was buying $476 worth of items at a Walmart.
Investigators told the Winston-Salem Journal (http://bit.ly/u7ZrEN (http://bit.ly/u7ZrEN) ) that 53-year-old Michael Fuller tried to buy a vacuum cleaner, a microwave oven and other items. Store employees called police after his insistence that the bill was legit, and Fuller was arrested.
The largest bill in circulation is $100. The government stopped making bills of up to $10,000 in 1969.
Fuller was charged with attempting to obtain property by false pretense and uttering a forged instrument. He is in jail on a $17,500 bond, and it isn't clear if he has an attorney. He is scheduled to be in court Tuesday.
Sad mogu da ga drže u pritvoru zauvek. Zapravo, to je dobro rešenje za one koji imaju dobru vezu. Možeš da se otarasiš koga god. Da ne govorimo da je time sudstvo postalo izlišno. I sudije. Da ne govorimo o advokatima.
Ma, ne, taj vječiti pritvor važi za ljude koje "hapsi" vojska, ne policija. Ovaj je bezbedan što se toga tiče. Ali, kakav CAR!!!!!!! Napravio čovek novčanicu od milijun dolara, pa ako prođe - prođe.
Kad te tako pritvore svejedno je ko te hapsi. Recimo, da smo tako pritvorili onu bratiju što se šetala po bivšoj Jugi da kušaju Titove vile, još bismo imali i državu, a možda bi i njima bilo lepo. I Šeki je u zatvoru po tom osnovu. Ko zna ko sve još. Vidiš, svaki predsednik koga na silu smene je u takvom zatvoru, ako se nekom ne posreći da ga upucaju u samoodbrani. Napoleon je bio u takvom zatvoru. Dva puta. Ali, jedan je Napoleon. Malo mi relativizuješ ovaj krucijalni zakon, Lillit je to bolje videla. U odnosu na njega "1984" ima Malog Brata.
Ma, ne relativizujem, lepo piše:
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can be used by this and future presidents to militarily detain people captured far from any battlefield
dakle, radi se o zarobljenicima rata, a orvelijanski tvist je što mogu biti lišeni slobode i izvan bojišta i držani u pritvoru vječno. Ali svakako se ne radi o civilnom hapšenju, pogotovo ne za ovakve prestupe. :lol:
Zloupotreba je efikasnija strana upotrebe. Najbolji sirevi imaju najveće rupe, tako je i sa zakonima. Kad udeneš presedan, uvek će nekome da presedne. Optimizam je zato samo izgovor. Uskoro će da važi i za privatne vojske, a da ne govorim da je to praksa koju primenjuju svi koje danas nazivamo teroristima, od gusara uz obale Somalije, do Čečena na Uralu. Ko će, uostalom, da dokaže da nije "vojna svrha", ako niko ne zna? Kad se sazna, onda će čas posla da se nakalemi sve potrebno.
Volim ja kad počneš da se migoljiš i tražiš neki "smisao". Mogu uvek da nađem mnogo više "besmisla". :evil:
Pre bih rekao da ti slobodno tumačiš ponuđene informacije i svoje neke potencijalne ekstrapolacije nazivaš datostima!!!
Ali opet, stariji si, iskusniji, nije to bez vraga.
Pa, i nije. Počeo sam da sumnjam negde posle Hirošime. Onda sam shvatio Masukine stihove:
Osmesi su se pretvorili vremenom,
u dosade, u suze, u ljutine.
Najsvetiji zaveti postali su bremenom,
ruke što miluju, počele su zlo da čine.
Da ne citiram do kraja, krah je nastupio kad su počeli da me ubeđuju kako će kapitalizam, ovde, da bude bolji, a da je demokratija univerzalno rešenje. Uvek ti, brate slatki, govno deklarišu kao lilihip, pa liži dok neko dete ne vikne da je to govno, odnosno, da je car go.
Hajde, majke ti, reci ti meni zašto je nešto što je u praksi od zatočenja u londonskom Toweru ili u Diminoj "Gvozdenoj Maski" ili u bezbroj tamnica od Kamčatke do Aljaske (i natrag), odjednom postalo značajno da bude legalizovano, sem ako nije vreme da se takve stvari ne kriju i da na to niko ne treba da gubi vreme? Orvel je, zapravo, bio bajat kad je nastao, a moje je ne da proizvoljno tumačim, nego da kažem dok još imam vremena.
Quote from: lilit_depp on 01-01-2012, 20:39:11
...and can be used by this and future presidents to militarily detain people captured far from any battlefield.
ja ovo battlefield shvatih simbolički, a problem vidim u tome što će svaki rednekovac moći sam da tumači šta je simbolika, metafora il hiperbola.
meho tupi pošto neće skoro put amerike, a ja se već psikički spremam za intimni pregled by TSA. :lol:
kako god, cifre su zastrašujuće:
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danas cu da izjavim nesto zbog cega cu se sigurno kajati u bliskoj buducnosti, ali ne pamtim konzulat sa profesionalnijim staffom od onog koji susretoh juce u americkom. trebalo im je ravno 36 sekundi da kazu: "your visa is approved". bez akanja, bez tone papira. sad jos da sacekam postara da vidim da li su bili darezljivi.
Да ли знаш на ком месту ће заиста одлучити да ли си у САД или си у НИКАД? Пола њихових агенција се финансира из претресања до голе коже. Онај последњи у низу има овлашћење да ти каже: "Ц" Или да позове особље да те пошаљу на доживотно летовање на Куби. :mrgreen:
sve mi je to vise nego jasno, al NYC je NYC. jbg. jos samo da sa hiperhikom pretresem koje klubove da posetim, a posle mogu i do kube. :lol:
Probaj i sa Libeat. Ona zna bolje od Hiperhika. Naročito gej klubove. U Sohou. xfrog
ne znam za soho, al nazivo ide sigurno. :lol:
pa pitaj skalopa da te uputi, greota da odeš u njujork a da ne vidiš soho!
Somove pecam na durdubake, a sitnu ribu na muvu bez glave.
Quote from: scallop on 04-01-2012, 15:23:48
Somove pecam na durdubake, a sitnu ribu na muvu bez glave.
onda bi ti bolje bilo kad bi se više bavio pecanjem a manje... ovim ovde.
Tebe navatavam kao kedere. Kad god poželim. A, tako si obećavao kad si bio mali. :cry:
Vidiš ja sam prvo čuo za Soho u Njujorku a tek kasnije za isti u Londonu.
Nemoj da mi zbunjuješ giricu iz Ribarske Banje. 8)
A izgleda je u zadnje vreme u modi ubijati, pa onda izdati knjigu, mož se i zaradi koja para :
Kris Kajl, snajperista Mornaričkih foka, koji je navodno ubio 255 ljudi ( vojska mu priznaje manju cifru ) napisao je knjigu
,, Američki snajperista ''. Dotični veli da će čiste savesti pred Boga, a ubijao je kaže divljake.
Semper fi, do or die, gung ho, gung ho, gung ho!
Quote from: scallop on 04-01-2012, 14:58:34Naročito gej klubove. U Sohou. xfrog
londonski soho je znan kao kvart crvenih fenjera i sličnih rabota.
njujorški nije.
mada, izgleda da je skalop expert, pored svega ostalog - i za gej barove! xfoht
a kad ga lepo pitam da otkrije šta zna o tome i da na vreme uputi lilitu
u koji soho i zašto baš u soho - on prebacuje temu na pecanje...
njemu je alzhajmer izgovor za sve! :roll:
Alojzije sad štuca. :mrgreen: Pita da li taj keder ume bilo šta osim da se uhvati za njega. xfuck5
Quote from: scallop on 04-01-2012, 20:24:42xfuck5
starcu foči od stotinu ljeta ne priliči ovakav diskurs.
mi mladi bismo samo želeli da nas podučiš, da sa nama podeliš svoje bezgranično znanje iz svih mogućih oblasti.
ako si već nešto zajeo - dojedi ga.
objasni nam, o premudri ribolovče, šta znaš o njujorškom sohou i njegovim gej barovima (if any).
kao i zašto bi oni trebalo da zanimaju lilitu.
Ima na gej topiku da se pričalo o gej barovima u Njujorku, šta je tačno gej bar itd (objašnjavala libe). Pomenut je Boiler Room i još neki tako barovi. Doduše, to je u Ist Vilidžu, nisam videla da se spominje Soho.
svi samo neodredjeno nagadjate. pored vas ce lilita jos zavrsiti u normalnom baru.
Quote from: angel011 on 04-01-2012, 20:46:33nisam videla da se spominje Soho.
zato sam lepo i pitao - zašto
Quote from: scallop on 04-01-2012, 14:58:34
Naročito gej klubove. U Sohou. xfrog
Quote from: kralj Kuga on 04-01-2012, 20:48:38
svi samo neodredjeno nagadjate. pored vas ce lilita jos zavrsiti u normalnom baru.
pored skalopa neće.
on će da je uputi u neki za crusty old seamen. ;) :!:
Da nisi pokušao da me izvataš za Soho i da si ozbiljno pročitao napisano, možda bi ti se posrećilo da razumeš. Ovako, da tebi mladom pojasnim:
- Lillit ide u NYC;
- Hiperhik je bio u NYC, posećivao gej klubove (zato Lillit hoće da ga konsultuje) i sa Libeat imao raspravu šta je zaista gej klub (ona ima izdvojeno mišljenje);
- Soho sam dodao da ti se nađe. Ima jedna tačka koja razdvaja.
Dok nisi počeo da se izvlačiš sve je bilo na svom mestu. I sad je. :lol:
Quote from: scallop on 04-01-2012, 20:52:38
... Hiperhik je bio u NYC, posećivao gej klubove (zato Lillit hoće da ga konsultuje)...
cuo sam da tu nema neke posebne filozofije. treba obratiti paznju na higijenu i zastitu od raznoraznih bolesti. a kontracepcija navodno nije potrebna.
to je sve. kakve konzultacije?!
Quote from: scallop on 04-01-2012, 20:52:38da si ozbiljno pročitao napisano, možda bi ti se posrećilo da razumeš.
kako da ozbiljno čitam post koji je em tvoj, em ima nekakva isplažena žaba na kraju?
nekako mi te žabe s izbačenim jezicima, kao i pokazivanje srednjeg prsta, ne idu zajedno s 'ozbiljnim postovima'.
to više
potseća na kojekakve varvare i životinje nego li na ozbiljne ljude sedih vlasi.
jebote Ghoul, ako nema pedera u Sohou gdje ih onda uopšte ima?
Hajde, ne lupetaj gluposti. Žapca je dobila Lillit, a onda si se ti nakačio. Što si posejao to si požnjeo. :mrgreen:
Quote from: Bata Životinja on 04-01-2012, 21:08:48
jebote Ghoul, ako nema pedera u Sohou gdje ih onda uopšte ima?
možda u londonskom.
za njujorški još čekam da mi skalop objasni.
ne kažem ja da nema gej klubova ni u sohou (NYC), ali ja na guglu nađoh samo jedan klub te sorte u tom kraju.
sad, ako je skalop zapeo dalilit mora izričito u sohou da traži gej klubove, verujem da on zna nešto više.
samo zato pitam, oću nešto da naučim od starog mornara.
Quote from: Ghoul on 04-01-2012, 21:26:14
sad, ako je skalop zapeo dalilit mora izričito u sohou da traži gej klubove, verujem da on zna nešto više.
Angel će sigurno da nađe gde to piše. 8) Koji si ti mamlaz nastao dok si bio na odsustvu!
Quote from: scallop on 04-01-2012, 21:32:13
Koji si ti mamlaz!
koji si ti varvarin!
sve više potsećaš na njega! :roll:
Na poTsećanja se ne navatavam. Ti sve više ličiš na sebe. :(
radije bih ličio na sebe nego na varvarina. 8-)
zapravo, radije bih ličio na sebe nego na bilo koga drugog.
ako je to greh, neka gorim u paklu zbog toga!
dakle, sve je kako treba, uključujući i tvoje trade mark izvrdavanje konkretnog odgovora.
Izvrdavaš ti i nikog nisi ubedio u suprotno. Ništa strašno, jesi li ofarbao jaja za preksutra? Znaš kako to ide. Za pod jelku.
ofarbaću jaja da lilit ponese u te grdne gej barove u NY sohou.
ako poželi da se s nekim... eh ...tuca.
dobro da si me potsetio.
ko bi reko da čovek s alzhajmerom pamti takve stvari.
samo još da se seti ZAŠTO je pomenuo baš soho....
Pozdravlja te Alojzije i pita što se ne baviš nečim gde si dorastao. Najpre si opleo da je Soho samo u Londonu, a onda potržeš gej klubove kao da će neko da te tamo vodi. Sad si već prostak i Lillit te sigurno više neće vodati po grobljima. Idi, piši neke gadosti, mada ni to ne umeš, kad i Bata to primećuje. Ne znam ni da li smo rešili tvoje falš samizdate. Alojzije stalno veli: "Pitaj ga, pitaj ga... priznaće na kraju..." A, ja, kao fini pa neću. Ajde, cimni Alexdelarga da ti čuva stražu. :mrgreen:
Alexdelarge! pomagaj!
dekici se pokvarila kolica!
neko ga naljutio?
trubi li, trubi, al ništa ga ne razumem!
Bu-ha-ha-ha-ha! :evil:
kakav london, kakav njujork, znam samo za soho na dorčolu! 8-)
i nemam vremena za vaša zavitlavanja, počeo sam NAKOT da čitam! :twisted:
Quote from: Alexdelarge on 04-01-2012, 23:12:14
i nemam vremena za vaša zavitlavanja, počeo sam NAKOT da čitam! :twisted:
auh, onda je jasno da su ti svi mentalni kapaciteti time zaokupljeni!
ne može svako kao ja da piše text za slovence, četuje na fejsu, sluša mjuz, skida filmove i zajebava skalopa istovremeno! 8-)
Quote from: Ghoul on 04-01-2012, 21:26:14
možda u londonskom.
za njujorški još čekam da mi skalop objasni.
ne kažem ja da nema gej klubova ni u sohou (NYC), ali ja na guglu nađoh samo jedan klub te sorte u tom kraju.
sad, ako je skalop zapeo dalilit mora izričito u sohou da traži gej klubove, verujem da on zna nešto više.
samo zato pitam, oću nešto da naučim od starog mornara.
Nadam se da je ovim dosta objašnjeno: Hint: Broadway.
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Quote from: Ghoul on 04-01-2012, 23:24:24
auh, onda je jasno da su ti svi mentalni kapaciteti time zaokupljeni!
pa, naravno, kad je ovaj skrobonja uveo
ovoliki broj likova! :mrgreen:
lako se vama zajebavati dok pošten svet radi. :mrgreen:
za neverovati je šta ispade od moje aluzije na simpatičnu diskusiju od pre nekoliko meseci, a vezanu za NYC i definicuju gej klubova :-? . srećom, pa je skalop sve shvatio. :)
gule šic! nemoj sad da vrdaš zbog božić/uskrs zamene. jasno je da nisi znao kad se šta radi i samo si porastao u mojim očima zbog toga. čak ću ti poslati razglednicu iz NYC ako me ne uhapse na ulasku.
last but not least, zbog gej clubs ću da posetim Filadelfiju. em je na glasu, em ću imati posvećenog/iskusnog vodiča. :lol:
Quote from: lilit_depp on 04-01-2012, 23:55:16
jasno je da nisi znao kad se šta radi i samo si porastao u mojim očima zbog toga.
jedina žena koja me savršeno razume srećno je udata! :cry: :x
just my luck! xfoht
Poseti ti zatvorenu pijacu na Market St. u Filadelfiji i kupi nešto kod Amiša. Odmah iza pijace ti je i "Kineska četvrt".
savršeno razumevanje je precenjena kategorija :mrgreen: .
poslušaj zato savet što će ti lilit dati: - pazi šta radiš da ne bi završio kao ja!
hvala skalope.
btw, putujem tek za gulov božić, tako da imam još 3 meseca za pravljenje planova. srećom nemam para pošto mi se javlja da bih rado odletela i do floride, pa odatle na neko krstarenje....pa gde završim. xrofl
Quote from: lilit_depp on 05-01-2012, 00:14:10
pazi šta radiš da ne bi završio kao ja!
misliš - u gej baru?
ma bez brige.
kad to nisam overio dok bejah godinu dana u san francisku, teško da ću sad.
osim ako nema neki baš baš dobar u tom skalopovom sohou.
tad si bio mlad i naivan :mrgreen:.
ne edituj postove dok pošten svet odgovara na njih. :lol:
Back to topic:
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fotomontaža!
ova jevtra rešila da me sahrani. kad se samo setim koliko sam verovala da će obama doneti neku lepšu ameriku, dodje mi da se obesim. :lol:
Nisi bila jedina, avaj, avaj.
Quote from: lilit_depp on 05-01-2012, 01:59:12ova jevtra rešila da me sahrani. kad se samo setim koliko sam verovala da će obama doneti neku lepšu ameriku, dodje mi da se obesim.
podseti me da ti se izbljujem na cipele kad se budemo videli.
date? :lol:
lijepo obama rekose "imamo premalo pamuka, a previse crnaca." i onda posustase. nije napravio niti jednu plantazu.
nije, al meni dade 10 godina multi.
živeo obama i živela hilari! :lol: :lol:
dobro, ali imajte na umu da je pamuk stigao u harlem a ne u soho.
U Haarlem. Za potrebe lokalnih gej klubova.
vas dvojica se u stvari volite. :)
Quote from: Ghoul on 05-01-2012, 00:01:45
jedina žena koja me savršeno razume srećno je udata! :cry: :x
just my luck! xfoht
vrag stvarno uvijek sere na najvecu hrpu. bas si sretan. te su najbolje ljubavnice...
Quote from: lilit_depp on 05-01-2012, 19:14:33
vas dvojica se u stvari volite. :)
ti zaista gledaš na svet kroz
ružičaste naočari.
zato ćeš i da završiš u gej klubu.
jedinom u sohou.
Quote from: Ghoul on 05-01-2012, 19:31:54
ti BIRAŠ da gledaš na svet kroz ružičaste naočari.
ispravljeno. :lol:
Hvala bratiji na hrtu2 što me podsetiše.
A Brief History of the USA by Michael Moore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4vGtDPSxiY#)
http://whatinthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ (http://whatinthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/)
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/08/us/washington-missing-base-equipment/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/08/us/washington-missing-base-equipment/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
Quote(CNN) -- Nearly 100 soldiers are confined to a Washington state base following a report of missing sensitive military equipment, including scopes and night lasers, a spokesman said Sunday.
Soldiers in the 4th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division unit can have day visits but must sleep at the base at night, said Maj. Chris Ophardt, a spokesman at Joint Base Lewis-McChord.
Authorities conducted an inventory last month and are trying to determine how long the equipment has been missing, he said.
The unit has been home from Iraq since September 2010.
Authorities have offered a $10,000 reward. No more information was immediately available.
Squad mate testifies in Marine's Iraq deaths trial (http://news.yahoo.com/squad-mate-testifies-marines-iraq-deaths-trial-192023417.html)
Jeste, pobili smo te žene i decu, koji nisu uzvraćali vatrom na nas, ali nismo učinili ništa pogrešno...
Quote..CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) — A former squad mate of a Marine implicated in one of the Iraq War's highest profile war crimes cases testified Tuesday that the group raced to nearby homes after a roadside bombing, firing rounds and tossing grenades for 45 minutes, even though the Marines did not take gunfire, come across a single insurgent or find a weapon.
Still, former Cpl. Stephen Tatum told a military jury at Camp Pendleton that he felt the squad did nothing wrong that day in the town of Haditha in 2005, when Marines killed 24 Iraqis, including unarmed women and children.
He said the squad feared insurgents were hiding in the nearby homes after the bomb exploded.
Tatum gave his account during the trial of Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, who led the squad and faces nine counts of manslaughter.
Military prosecutors have implicated the Camp Pendleton Marine from Meriden, Conn., in 19 of the 24 Iraqi deaths. He is the last defendant in one of the biggest criminal cases against U.S. troops from the war. One squad member was acquitted. Six others, including Tatum, had their cases dropped.
Tatum acknowledged that charges against him were dismissed in exchange for testifying.
He told military prosecutors during his testimony that squad members tossed grenades and shot rounds into rooms of Iraqi homes in the wake of the bombing that killed Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas and injured two others.
Immediately after the explosion, Tatum testified, the Marines came under small arms fire, but he did not know from where. Wuterich and another Marine fatally shot five Iraqis outside a white car near the scene then headed toward the closest home, Tatum said.
Before raiding it, Wuterich told him to "treat the house as hostile," the former Marine testified. Tatum understood that to mean there were armed individuals inside and he did not need to identify his targets to attack.
Following his squad leader, Tatum said the Marines edged along walls with their weapons drawn. They tossed fragmented grenades into rooms. In a back room, Tatum said he joined Wuterich in firing rounds but was unable to see what he was shooting at because of the darkness and flying debris.
"I saw silhouettes of targets and that was really it," Tatum said, adding that it looked like there was a man standing or kneeling.
Then someone yelled a person had fled. The Marines rushed out to a neighboring house, tossing in grenades and shooting off rounds there as well. Tatum saw the body of an Iraqi man near the kitchen when he went in after his fellow troops.
While checking an empty room, Tatum said he heard movements in a back bedroom and then Wuterich firing his M-16. He went in to assist Wuterich, shooting at what he said were silhouettes, some big, some small.
"The only thing that gave me any indication there was a hostile act in there would be Staff Sgt. Wuterich firing, sir," Tatum told military prosecutor Lt. Col. Sean Sullivan.
Wuterich also acknowledged that he did not positively identify his targets, three investigators testified.
Tatum returned later when the house had been determined to be safe and learned they had killed an unarmed woman and children in the room.
Defense attorney Neal Puckett suggested Tatum had changed details of his account since talking to investigators. Tatum said mistakes could have been made in the investigating reports but he stood by his testimony.
Wuterich listened, occasionally rubbing his chin and whispering in the ear of his attorney during the day's testimony.
The defense says Wuterich believed insurgents were in the homes and that's why he ordered his Marines to shoot first and ask questions later.
The issue is whether Wuterich reacted appropriately as a Marine squad leader in protecting his troops in the midst of a chaotic war or went on a vengeful rampage, disregarding combat rules and leading his men to shoot and blast indiscriminately at Iraqi civilians.
Prosecutors in their opening statement Monday painted a picture of a young Marine with no prior combat experience losing control after seeing his friend's body blown apart.
Prosecutor Maj. Nicholas Gannon said the evidence will show Wuterich "made a series of fatal assumptions and he lost control of himself."
Wuterich has said he regretted the loss of civilian lives but believed he was operating within military combat rules.
The tragedy prompted tightening of those policies, with commanders demanding their troops positively identify their targets before firing.
Staff Sgt. Justin Laughner went in after the raids to gather military intelligence and testified Tuesday that he found no signs of insurgents. He took photographs of 23 bodies.
In 2008 testimony in the court-martial of another Marine in the case, Laughner acknowledged deleting photos he took at the scene under an officer's orders and later lied repeatedly to investigators about what happened to the images.
"I remember some of the kids had their eyes open," Laughner testified Tuesday, saying he was shaken by the carnage he saw in the back bedroom.
"I just wanted to leave the bedroom," he said. "I just thought it was really sad."
Na netu se pojavile snimke hrabrih i čestitih marinaca koji uriniraju po mrtvim talibanskim borcima...
Aha, na to se dakle odnosio onaj tvit od jutros:
Something odd about a morality where urinating on someone is so much worse than shooting their face off.
Bio sam stavio sliku, ali sam je skinuo, to je ipak previše.
Da se dogovorimo, nisu baš ni talibanski borci neke cvećke sklone dobrom ukusu i poštovanju Ženevskih konvencija, i to kažem ja kao musliman, tako da, lepo vaspitanje na stranu, mene zaista manje potresa pišanje po mrtvom neprijatelju od ubijanja civila koji ne uzvraćaju paljbom a koje se pominje u mom postu iznad.
Ako imaš sliku kako talibani pišaju po Amerima ti slobodno postavi.
Evo umesto toga kako talibani bičuju devojku na javnom mestu (u Pakistanu
Video Showing Beating Of Girl by Taliban in Pakistan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u55M7cdHQQ4#)
najbolji su ovi što stoje i gledaju.
http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/130874/dead_teen_sued_by_victim (http://thestir.cafemom.com/in_the_news/130874/dead_teen_sued_by_victim)
QuoteDead Teen Sued for Losing Control of Flying Body Parts
You think you've heard it all until I tell you that an appeals court in Illinois recently ruled that a woman is allowed to sue a dead teen's estate for injuries caused by his flying body parts. The 18-year-old boy was running across the Amtrak tracks to catch another train but didn't make it -- he was hit by an oncoming train going 70 mph and his body was torn apart by the force and flung onto a nearby passengers' waiting platform. The woman, 58, was struck by a sizable chunk of the boy's body (http://www.newser.com/story/136459/dead-accident-victim-to-be-sued-over-flying-body-parts.html) and was knocked to the ground, breaking her leg and wrist. The court ruled that the boy's death was "reasonably foreseeable" and that his estate can be held responsible for his negligence.
...
šće u riljano?
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-01-2012, 14:01:40
Da se dogovorimo, nisu baš ni talibanski borci neke cvećke sklone dobrom ukusu i poštovanju Ženevskih konvencija, i to kažem ja kao musliman, tako da, lepo vaspitanje na stranu, mene zaista manje potresa pišanje po mrtvom neprijatelju od ubijanja civila koji ne uzvraćaju paljbom a koje se pominje u mom postu iznad.
Mda, a Ameri takođe nemaju naviku pucati na civile koji ne uzvraćaju paljbom...nikako to ne rade.
Koncentriši se malo, jebem mu lebac. O ovom postu govorim:
Quote
..CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) — A former squad mate of a Marine implicated in one of the Iraq War's highest profile war crimes cases testified Tuesday that the group raced to nearby homes after a roadside bombing, firing rounds and tossing grenades for 45 minutes, even though the Marines did not take gunfire, come across a single insurgent or find a weapon.
Still, former Cpl. Stephen Tatum told a military jury at Camp Pendleton that he felt the squad did nothing wrong that day in the town of Haditha in 2005, when Marines killed 24 Iraqis, including unarmed women and children.
He said the squad feared insurgents were hiding in the nearby homes after the bomb exploded.
Tatum gave his account during the trial of Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, who led the squad and faces nine counts of manslaughter.
Military prosecutors have implicated the Camp Pendleton Marine from Meriden, Conn., in 19 of the 24 Iraqi deaths. He is the last defendant in one of the biggest criminal cases against U.S. troops from the war. One squad member was acquitted. Six others, including Tatum, had their cases dropped.
Tatum acknowledged that charges against him were dismissed in exchange for testifying.
He told military prosecutors during his testimony that squad members tossed grenades and shot rounds into rooms of Iraqi homes in the wake of the bombing that killed Lance Cpl. Miguel Terrazas and injured two others.
Immediately after the explosion, Tatum testified, the Marines came under small arms fire, but he did not know from where. Wuterich and another Marine fatally shot five Iraqis outside a white car near the scene then headed toward the closest home, Tatum said.
Before raiding it, Wuterich told him to "treat the house as hostile," the former Marine testified. Tatum understood that to mean there were armed individuals inside and he did not need to identify his targets to attack.
Following his squad leader, Tatum said the Marines edged along walls with their weapons drawn. They tossed fragmented grenades into rooms. In a back room, Tatum said he joined Wuterich in firing rounds but was unable to see what he was shooting at because of the darkness and flying debris.
"I saw silhouettes of targets and that was really it," Tatum said, adding that it looked like there was a man standing or kneeling.
Then someone yelled a person had fled. The Marines rushed out to a neighboring house, tossing in grenades and shooting off rounds there as well. Tatum saw the body of an Iraqi man near the kitchen when he went in after his fellow troops.
While checking an empty room, Tatum said he heard movements in a back bedroom and then Wuterich firing his M-16. He went in to assist Wuterich, shooting at what he said were silhouettes, some big, some small.
"The only thing that gave me any indication there was a hostile act in there would be Staff Sgt. Wuterich firing, sir," Tatum told military prosecutor Lt. Col. Sean Sullivan.
Wuterich also acknowledged that he did not positively identify his targets, three investigators testified.
Tatum returned later when the house had been determined to be safe and learned they had killed an unarmed woman and children in the room.
Defense attorney Neal Puckett suggested Tatum had changed details of his account since talking to investigators. Tatum said mistakes could have been made in the investigating reports but he stood by his testimony.
Wuterich listened, occasionally rubbing his chin and whispering in the ear of his attorney during the day's testimony.
The defense says Wuterich believed insurgents were in the homes and that's why he ordered his Marines to shoot first and ask questions later.
The issue is whether Wuterich reacted appropriately as a Marine squad leader in protecting his troops in the midst of a chaotic war or went on a vengeful rampage, disregarding combat rules and leading his men to shoot and blast indiscriminately at Iraqi civilians.
Prosecutors in their opening statement Monday painted a picture of a young Marine with no prior combat experience losing control after seeing his friend's body blown apart.
Prosecutor Maj. Nicholas Gannon said the evidence will show Wuterich "made a series of fatal assumptions and he lost control of himself."
Wuterich has said he regretted the loss of civilian lives but believed he was operating within military combat rules.
The tragedy prompted tightening of those policies, with commanders demanding their troops positively identify their targets before firing.
Staff Sgt. Justin Laughner went in after the raids to gather military intelligence and testified Tuesday that he found no signs of insurgents. He took photographs of 23 bodies.
In 2008 testimony in the court-martial of another Marine in the case, Laughner acknowledged deleting photos he took at the scene under an officer's orders and later lied repeatedly to investigators about what happened to the images.
"I remember some of the kids had their eyes open," Laughner testified Tuesday, saying he was shaken by the carnage he saw in the back bedroom.
"I just wanted to leave the bedroom," he said. "I just thought it was really sad."
Se sme lebac pcovati, sunce li ti?!
jbg, valjda nas ne iznenađuje što su ljudi neljudi čim sklonis zakon i strah od doživotne robije ili smrtne presude...
ili su neljudi u startu, pa im fenotip pod stare dane omogućio da se razmašu.
ovoj planeti će samo napalm pomoći.
btw, ovo im je možda i deo obuke? :(
Most dead Japanese were desecrated and mutilated. "American soldiers on Okinawa were seen urinating into the gaping mouth of the slain. They were 'rebutchered.' 'As the bodies jerked and quivered,' a marine on Guadalcanal wrote of the repeated shooting of corpses, 'we would laugh gleefully and hysterically'" (p. 209). As the GIs closed in on the Japanese archipelago, the more the difference between combatants and noncombatants became fuzzy and almost pointless to them.
http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=7814 (http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=7814)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-01-2012, 14:11:32
Evo umesto toga kako talibani bičuju devojku na javnom mestu (u Pakistanu
Video Showing Beating Of Girl by Taliban in Pakistan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u55M7cdHQQ4#)
Ovo baš i nisam morala da vidim sada.
Što se tiče uriniranja po leševima - čini mi se da su svi "neljudski" postupci i ratni zločini reakcije, protesti i iracionalni postupci izazvani strahom od neposredne svoje i tuđe smrti u ratu. Jadnici.
Eh, da - Amerika je već prešla ivicu i otišla u tri lepe. Još par godina da to svima bude jasno i vidljivo.
Ja sam baš nedavno zaključio da su po pravilu sve prognoze tipa 'još samo par godina i' netačne. :lol: Ono što se vrlo opipljivo i nedvosmisleno zapravo promeni u narednih par godina obično ili niko nije očekivao, ili je bilo toliko očigledno da niko nije verbalizovao predviđanje.
Vidi, kada veliki sistem propadne, njegov eho odjekuje još dosta dugo.
Lep ti je metod zaključivanja, pa bi mogao i da ga podeliš sa nama.
Pa, možda je i u pravu za neke manje stvari. Veliki sistemi ne propadaju za nekoliko godina i nepredviđeno. Mislim ja. :lol:
Pa da. Amerika nikad neće propasti. Kao što Britansko carstvo nikad nije propalo, per se. E pa u američkom slučaju ćemo još manje moći da govorimo o nečem takvom, nekakvoj 'propasti' koja se desila u nekom trenutku, ili u nekoj deceniji. Može doći do srazmerne, postepene deterioracije. I to je to.
Mada nikad nije pametno baviti se prognozama bilo kakve vrste. Posebno ne ovako, kad to što ste rekli ostane sačuvano negde. :lol:
Eh pa da, ali vidi - Britanija se konzervirala na svom ostrvcetu u trenutku gubljenja moći. Amerika je ekspanzionistički (bila) nastrojena. Ne govori se ovde prvenstveno o materijalnom propadanju, tu ulogu igra i duhovna degradacija.
Evo i Srbija je odavno propala, eho joj odjekuje Evropom, ali Srbije kao samostalne i stabilne države nema. Tu se batrgamo mi, neki, koji se nismo izvukli iz živog blata, u iluziji da živimo u Srbiji. Preostaje joj samo da se izdigne iz pepela. If ever. Tako je i sa Amerikom.
Sve te imperije imaju veoma dug period zombifikacije kad im se čini da su još žive, idu unaokolo i drapaju šta stignu.
meni se javlja da ne bi bilo loše pribaviti zelenu kartu. sve će propasti pre nego amerika.
U stvari, vrlo je moguće da svi tonemo u blato matriksa. Kraj (ljudske) civilizacije. :lol: Vreme je za nova i pametnija bića.
Slab si ti prorok. Ne smem da ti kažem više. xhang
skalop se slabo seća prošlosti, ali ima odlično sećanje na budućnost!
skalop je baba vanga inkognito.
Ti si bolji od Ghoula. Kao da znaš odakle su moji rodom.
Quote from: scallop on 12-01-2012, 19:07:19Ti si bolji od Ghoula.
skalop ti tepa...
mora da si ga ganuo onim kikirikijem.
da. zna skalop sta je dobro. gurman.
Kako Bundes Nish Alijansa? Razvijate se na radost Europe? Hej, baba Vanga mi je familija.
pišati na ubijene protivnike
ima li išta jadnije sjeme im se zatralo
nimalo poštovanja
kulturan treba biti i kad pobjeđuješ
ni mrtviuma ne daju mira rodeo seljačine
Quote from: scallop on 12-01-2012, 19:23:34Hej, baba Vanga mi je familija.
to smo već konstantovali.
zato 'znaš' ko je dobar prorok a ko nije.
razumeš se u bapske priče.
U mojoj porodici ima osoba sa nadnaravnim moćima, pa mora da ti je krivo. Mogao bih da kažem da mi je žao, ali nije. Žali se oklutnom centru za južnu Srbiju.
Quote from: scallop on 12-01-2012, 23:31:37U mojoj porodici ima osoba sa nadnaravnim moćima
šteta što u tvojoj porodici nema osoba sa spisateljskim moćima.
Ko, pa, tebe pita? Ti si bioskopski kritičar, a u pisanje se nikad nisi razumeo. Ma, ti si samo pljuvač u dalj.
a ti si 'pisac' za koga nije čuo niko izvan kruga njegove rodbine i najbližih prijatelja.
prema tome, ne znam na osnovu čega misliš da je tvoj sud o nečemu što nije pijaca ili kuvanje relevantan?
to što izigravaš učitelja pisanja nekakvim početnicima u nekakvom udruženju ljubitelja?
pa ti si u svojoj stotoj godini još uvek početnik, amater, laik.
Quote from: Ghoul on 13-01-2012, 00:44:08
to što izigravaš učitelja pisanja nekakvim početnicima u nekakvom udruženju ljubitelja?
Zato što je dobrodošao, koristan, vredan, vedar, obrazovan, profesionalan i energičan. Scallop je, dakle, u svojim godinama, sve ono što ti u svojim nisi.
Quote from: scallop on 12-01-2012, 19:23:34... Hej, baba Vanga mi je familija.
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U mojoj porodici ima osoba sa nadnaravnim moćima...
odlicno. iskoristimo priliku.
reci ti meni skalope, a kad ce velika srbija? sta vidis?
Quote from: kralj Kuga on 13-01-2012, 01:00:02
odlicno. iskoristimo priliku.
reci ti meni skalope, a kad ce velika srbija? sta vidis?
Kad na njeno čelo dođe Gul sa svojim gulanferima.
vala, možda stvarno ima nešto u vizijama ovog našeg deda-vangle.
DEDA-VANGLA: proriče i objašnjava! xrotaeye
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/it-is-now-mathematically-impossible-to-pay-off-the-u-s-national-debt (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/it-is-now-mathematically-impossible-to-pay-off-the-u-s-national-debt)
QuoteThe Federal Reserve is a private bank owned and operated for profit by a very powerful group of elite international bankers.
"Some people think that the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders."
The Federal Reserve is not the solution and it never has been.
The Federal Reserve is the problem.
Odličan članak.
Ja sam to strpao u jednu rečenicu: J.P. Morgan pozajmi Morgan-Stanley-u da bi se prevazišla kriza. Plaćaju sva druga prezimena.
Ne gledati ako ste osetljiva dušica kojoj može da pozli od prizora zaista ružnog urbanog nasilništva. Ali valja se povremeno setiti kako klinci umeju da budu šljam.
helpless asian man attacked and jumped by 7 others behind school (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxP0VnbHSxE#ws)
Jbg. - ne razumem. Klinja niti se branio niti je pokušao da beži.
Zna li se zbog čeka ga biju? Deluje krupniji od ostalih.
Pa, vidi se da mu jedan uzima stvari iz ranca a drugi mu govori da skine jaknu. Mada mislim da je osnovni moti što što je njih sedam likova iz kraja a ovaj je očigledno autsajder (priča Kineski). Da bude smešnije, četvorica od sedmorice su i sami Kinezi, ali eto, rođeni u Americi...
Kad svi Amerikanci budu Kinezi, koga će da biju?
Ne znam, nisam baš stručnjak, ali u toj njegovoj pasivnosti nešto ne štima.
Imao je nekoliko puta priliku da im izmakne, ali umesto toga on se raspravljao sa njima.
Interesantno je da su i oni koji ga biju kinezi. Odakle ti podatak da su rođeni u Americi i ne razumeju kineski?
Mislim da su mu prezimena Wu, Li i Hui a imena Wesley, Easley, Johnny i Danny pomogla da dodje do tog zakljucka.
To je njegov zaključak i ja ga poštujem, ali ja imam poznanice koje se zovu Nataša i Tanja. Da to nije možda dokaz da su one Ruskinje rođene u Srbiji?
Melkor is maj niga.
Mada ne tvrdim da ne razumeju Kineski, samo da ON verovatno ne priča baš mnogo Engleskog.
I čovek nije nužno pasivan zato što je raštimovan. Pošto se ovo dešava kod lokalne škole, nije nemoguće da on i sam tu negde živi (ili ide u školu, stariji razred ili nešto tako) (mada ga tu kolje slab Engleski, ali možda je pričao Kineski jer su i ovi klinci Kinezi pa da ih odobrovolji) i pokušava da stvari svede na nekakvu meru zajebancije, kao naši smo, u redu je, pošto će iste ove klince viđati i sutra i prekosutra itd.
Quote from: scallop on 17-01-2012, 11:35:29
Kad svi Amerikanci budu Kinezi, koga će da biju?
Pa vidiš da im dobro ide za sada. Kinez udario na Kineza, Srbin na Srbina. Amerikanac na Amerikanca.
Quote from: Stipan on 17-01-2012, 11:46:18
To je njegov zaključak i ja ga poštujem, ali ja imam poznanice koje se zovu Nataša i Tanja. Da to nije možda dokaz da su one Ruskinje rođene u Srbiji?
Ako pažljivije pogledaš, vidi se da neki od momaka imaju azijske crte lica (aka "kose oči"), pred kraj se najbolje vidi.
Quote from: scallop on 17-01-2012, 11:35:29
Kad svi Amerikanci budu Kinezi, koga će da biju?
One Amerikance koji su Meksikanci.
Narvno Meho, baš o tome i govorim.
Quote from: Stipan on 17-01-2012, 11:38:42
Interesantno je da su i oni koji ga biju kinezi.
Jedino nisam baš siguran da se radi o klasičnom siledžijstvu.
Pa... šta je za tebe klasično siledžijstvo? Ovde imaš sedam na jednoga koji tipa biju iz očiglednog zadovoljstva, uzimaju mu njegove stvari i čekaju da on ustane da bi ga ponovo tukli. To je prilično klasično.
Pa dobro, ti si ipak stručnjak za te stvari. Meni više deluje kao odmazda.
I gde ti vidiš zadovoljstvo? Meni deluje kao bes ili divljaštvo.
U kom li sam smislu ja stručnjak za te stvari? :-?
I naravno, možda je odmazda, mada tu čovek očekuje da vidi kako ga prebiju i ostave i tokom prebijanja mu kažu zašto ga biju i očekuju možda priznanje za njegovu krivicu. Umesto toga oni mu skidaju jaknu i otvaraju ranac da ga opljačkaju.
I naravno da je bes i divljaštvo, oni proizvode zadovoljstvo. Zar ti ne deluje kao da su srećni kada tip ustane, prča im nešto na Kineskom a onaj mali mu priđe i udari ga laktomu lgavu?
Pa mislim stručnjak za uporno i ubedljivo izlaganje neproverenih i klimavih fakata - kao na primer: bes = zadovoljstvo.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 17-01-2012, 11:57:16
Pa... šta je za tebe klasično siledžijstvo? Ovde imaš sedam na jednoga koji tipa biju iz očiglednog zadovoljstva, uzimaju mu njegove stvari i čekaju da on ustane da bi ga ponovo tukli. To je prilično klasično.
klasično siledžijstvo i maltretiranje, pa sve i da je o odmazdi reč. na primer, ovaj klipan u tamno sivom/teget (jebemliga koja je boja) duksu koji mu otvara ranac i na kraju ga udara sa leđa... ni jednog momenta nema besan izraz lica, a nije da ne prilazi kameri. čak bih se zakleo da vidim smešak... nadam se da će proći kao onaj pacovčić što ga je maltretirani busko otresao o patos.
zanimljivo je da azijati biju azijata i oslovljavaju ga sa nigga.
Da, taj nigga momenat pokazuje kakvi su to vonabi likovi. Ali, to i jeste to - klinčurija....
Тим клинцима што бију вршњака помогле би јааааако добре батине. Нико није ни премлад ни престар да би био ђубре. Али заиста сурове батине.
Pa... to je pitanje. Mislim, pitanje je da li bi ih izlaganje fizičkom nasilju sprečilo da ponovo čine fizičko nasilje. Institucija kažnjavanja neželjenog društvenog ponašanja je ozbiljna nauka i ima tu dosta faktora koje treba proučiti.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 17-01-2012, 13:48:18
Pa... to je pitanje. Mislim, pitanje je da li bi ih izlaganje fizičkom nasilju sprečilo da ponovo čine fizičko nasilje.
Полуозбиљно велим да би онда требало истрајати у батинама, док им се не усади страх од казне за такво понашање.
:lol:
Ja sam mnenja da batine same za sebe u najvećem broju slučajeva nisu dovoljne. Čovek treba da oseća odgovornost za svoje okruženje (socijalno ili ekološko itd.) jer internalizuje njegove vrednosti, ne samo da se plaši kazne, pošto onda čim mogućnosti za kaznu nema pušta sebi na volju...
Fuko je napisao vrlo detaljnu knjigu o istorijatu institucionalizovanog nadzora i kažnjavanja i tu knjigu valja uzimati kao ozbilju referencu u ovakvim razmišljanjima...
Да, без одговорности је све то нула. Али док се одговорност не усади, много мирне деце ће надерати и носити трауме годинама. Мора бити санкције, мора да заболи. А није да је неправедно - физички бол си нанео, осети сад мало на својој гузици.
Ma daleko od toga da ja sad ovde govorim kako kazna nikada ne može da da željeni rezultat, samo ukazujem da kazna, pogotovo kada joj je cilj najpre da povredi i ponizi često (najčešće?) nije dovoljan instrument u postizanju željenog socijalnog cilja.
Moje je mišljenje da se ljudi prema zajednici ponašaju odgovorno kada se osećaju kao integralni njen deo, dakle, dele njene vrednosti i, da kažemo, razumeju ih. Što znači da je edukacija važna koliko i kazna.
Ali nije da sam ja sad nešto stručan da o tome pričam.
Далеко од тога да сам и ја стручан. Само ме ждере то што су силеџије пречеста појава. Нека деца трпе то од првих школских дана. По правилу, мирна деца.
Не, жао ми је Мехо, неког треба јако лемати. Из љубави, до крви. Ако не клинце булије онда њихове јадне изговоре за родитеље. xtwak
:lol: :lol:
Opet velim, samo lemanje nije dovoljan lek u najvećem broju slučajeva već i zato što je siledžijstvo prirodna pojava a tolerantan odnos prema (socijalnom) okruženju ne-prirodna, koja stiže uz socijalnu evoluciju i razne složene fenomene koji uz nju dolaze.
Sad si se nalupetao kao niko živi. Da naručimo još litar, pa nek ide život? xdrinka
Samo nek je bezalkoholno.
Meni je i dalje nejasno zašto se klinac ne brani. Nikad marinca od njega.
Meho, jesi li video ovo?
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-the-man-who-was-assaulted-by-the-7-thugs-in-chicago/223523997732397 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-for-the-man-who-was-assaulted-by-the-7-thugs-in-chicago/223523997732397)
Nisam, al ja nemam fejbuk nalog tako da...
Ma, i ja sam na link naletela na mestu nevezanom za fejsbuk, a ako klikneš, možeš da čitaš i ako nemaš nalog, javno je.
Video sam, video sam. Eh taj ludi Fejsbuk, traži se pravda za sve i svakoga.
Newt Gingrich victorious in South Carolina!!!
Da li ste svesni cinjenice da cemo mozda - ako Njut Gingric pobedi Obamu - dobiti SF pisca kao najmocnijeg coveka na svetu!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1945_%28Gingrich_novel%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1945_%28Gingrich_novel%29)
George Carlin - Why You Are In Debt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PkWf9M3rUw#)
Jel znate da možete da ispitate Obamu direktno za sve što vam je na duši? Na YouTube kanalu Bele Kuće ljudi postavljaju pitanja, i za par dana mr. Precednik će odgovoriti na pet najpopularnijih.
http://www.youtube.com/whitehouse (http://www.youtube.com/whitehouse)
Precednik ima radni tim koji mu priprema pet najpopularnijih. Protiv slučaja. :evil:
US marine in Haditha case 'should serve no time'
A US marine who admitted charges linked to the killing of 24 unarmed Iraqi civilians in 2005 should face no time in detention, a judge has recommended.
The decision by the judge at Camp Pendleton, California, must be approved by the commander of the Marine Corps Forces Central Command.
Sgt Frank Wuterich faced a maximum of three months after admitting dereliction of duty in a plea deal.
He was one of eight marines charged over the killings at Haditha.
The charges against six were dropped or dismissed, and one was acquitted.
Military judge Lt Col David Jones said his hands had been tied by the terms of the plea agreement. However, he said he would recommend that Wuterich's rank be reduced to private.
The judge said he had decided not to dock the marine's pay because Wuterich is divorced with sole custody of his three young children.
Prosecutors had asked that Wuterich receive the maximum sentence of three months confinement, reduction in rank and forfeiture of two-thirds of his pay.
'Horrific result' Wuterich's guilty plea ended the trial at Camp Pendleton nearly seven years after the killings.
Prosecutors had argued that on the day of the killings Wuterich lost control after seeing a friend blown apart by a bomb, before leading the soldiers under his command on a rampage.
They said his decision to send his squad to attack nearby homes went against his training.
"That is a horrific result from that derelict order of shooting first, ask questions later," Lt Col Sean Sullivan told the court.
Among the dead were women, children and elderly people, including a man in a wheelchair.
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbcimg.co.uk%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2F58082000%2Fjpg%2F_58082776_002615665-1.jpg&hash=e9ef2f7f2ad5a11032f70808e98d2be622b751de) Relatives of the victims have expressed outrage at the outcome of the trial His former squad members testified during the hearings that they were not fired upon nor did they find any weapons at the scene of the killings.
Wuterich told the court that he ordered his men to "shoot first, ask questions later" so they would not hesitate in attacking the enemy, but he never intended to harm any civilians.
In his statement he addressed relatives of the Iraqi victims, saying there were no words to ease their pain.
"I wish to assure you that on that day, it was never my intention to harm you or your families. I know that you are the real victims of November 19, 2005," he said.
In Iraq, the plea deal that stopped Wuterich's trial on several charges of manslaughter sparked outrage.
Survivor Awis Fahmi Hussein, who had been shot in the back, said: "I was expecting that the American judiciary would sentence this person to life in prison and that he would appear and confess in front of the whole world that he committed this crime, so that America could show itself as democratic and fair."
http://boingboing.net/2012/01/30/brits-deported-from-u-s-for-t.html (http://boingboing.net/2012/01/30/brits-deported-from-u-s-for-t.html)
Znao sam ja da je taj "tweeter" korisna stvar, ali da pomoću njega mogu da se uvate i gej teroristi, to nisam znao.
nije baš sveže, ali eto.
The appeal #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGPCIc4F26E#)
A sveže je:
AMERICAN AIRLINES OTPUŠTA 16.000 RADNIKA
The job cuts would amount to 16 percent of American's work force of about 80,000. The company said it wanted to cut 4,600 mechanics jobs, 4,200 ground service positions, 2,300 flight attendants and 400 pilots. Another 1,400 jobs would be cut in management and support services. More cuts are being considered for gate agents, representatives and planners, though no numbers were given.
Ne znam kako će Lillit da iskoristi svoju dugoročnu vizu, a ni meni se ne piše dobro, jer više nisam plivački dugoprugaš. :cry:
priča se da je lilit lokal patriota pošto ne konzumira ništa osim ostrijan erlajnza. :lol:
Quote from: lilit_depp on 02-02-2012, 01:29:44
priča se da je lilit lokal patriota pošto ne konzumira ništa osim ostrijan erlajnza. :lol:
ostrijan rula, vrlo su im pristojne cene a usluga više nego zadovoljavajuća.
Dosta hvalisanja tim vašim avionima, obratite pažnju šta rade Amerikanci:
49ogodišnjak usvojio svoju devojku od 42 godine (http://www.ksee24.com/news/local/Florida-Man-Adopts-42-Year-Old-Girlfriend-138525664.html)
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Florida Man Adopts 42 Year Old Girlfriend By KSEE News
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.ksee24.com%2Fimages%2Fjohn%2Bgoodman%2Bwptv.jpg&hash=5a4d5c02521826cd4bee9cac55cf8b254ab5e838) Credit: WPTV John Goodman February 1, 2012 Updated Feb 1, 2012 at 3:59 PM PST A wealthy Florida man has set off a firestorm by legally adopting his 42-year-old girlfriend as he prepares for a potentially costly wrongful death suit.
John Goodman, 49, founder of the tony International Polo Club in Wellington, Fla., was involved in a crash on Feb. 12, 2010 that killed 23-year-old Scott Patrick Wilson. Local police say Goodman ran a stop sign while driving with a blood alcohol level twice the legal limit in Florida.
While Goodman faces criminal charges of DUI manslaughter, vehicular homicide and leaving the scene of an accident that carry a possible 30-year prison term in a trial set for March 6, he also faces a civil suit from William and Lili Wilson over the death of their son.
In recently released court documents, the Wilsons learned that Goodman had legally adopted his girlfriend Heather Hutchins in October. Attorneys for the Wilsons say it was a blatant move to protect his assets.
"It cannot go unrecognized that [Goodman] chose to adopt his 42-year-old girlfriend as opposed to a needy child," The Palm Beach Post newspaper quoted family attorney Scott Smith as saying.
Palm Beach County Circuit Judge Glenn Kelley had previously ruled a trust fund Goodman had established for his two minor children could not be considered an asset in any court-rewarded damages to the Wilson family.
Now, with Hutchins also considered Goodman's daughter, she is entitled to one-third of the trust fund, and as an adult over 35 she can begin drawing money from the fund immediately.
Judge Kelley was critical of Goodman's move in his order granting the Wilson family the right to information regarding the adoption. Kelley said the adoption "border(s) on the surreal," The Palm Beach Post reported.
"The Court cannot ignore reality or the practical impact of what Mr. Goodman has now done," Judge Kelley wrote. "The Defendant has effectively diverted a significant portion of the assets of the children's trust to a person with whom he is intimately involved at a time when his personal assets are largely at risk in this case."
While Goodman's move has tongues wagging on the society scene in south Florida, a state adoption expert told WPEC-TV in West Palm Beach that Goodman adopting his girlfriend may not be strictly legal.
"Adoption means the act of creating the legal relationship between parent and child where it did not exist," adoption attorney Charlotte Danciu told the station. "Unless you intend to create the parent-child relationship, you are violating the letter of the law."
For more on this story, CLICK HERE. (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/46226962/ns/today-today_people/#.TynOJcVWp2A)
Kanada na ivici propasti: čoveka u Kvebeku uhapsili pod sumnjom da je terorista jer je poslao kolegama SMS da "eksplodira" konkurente u Njujorku (tvrdi da termin "exploser" na Francuskom a u domenu finansijskog biznisa često biva korišćen u pozitivnom smislu). Ah, da, i musliman je. Sad, ovo se desilo pre godinu dana, čovek je držan u pritvoru jedan dan, ispitivan i pušten bez podizanja optužnice, ali je to i danas vest jer pokušava da dobije potvrdu da nije dolazio u sukob sa zakonom, radi zaposlenja a vlasti mu je ne daju:
Muslim man: My workplace quip made me a terror suspect (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/muslim-man-workplace-quip-made-terror-suspect-211334769.html)
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MONTREAL - A casual text message to work colleagues encouraging them to ''blow away'' the competition at a trade show allegedly plunged a Muslim man into a terrorism probe.
Telecommunications sales manager Saad Allami says the innocent message, aimed at pumping up his staff, has had devastating consequences on his life.
The Quebec man says he was arrested by provincial police while picking up his seven-year-old son at school. A team of police officers stormed into his home, telling his wife she was married to a terrorist. And his work colleagues were detained for hours at the U.S. border because of their connection to him.
Those are the allegations Allami makes in a lawsuit filed last month.
The Moroccan native is seeking $100,000 from the Quebec provincial police force, one of its sergeants, and the provincial government. The six-figure sum is being sought for unlawful detention, unlawful arrest, loss of income and damage to his reputation.
On Jan. 21, 2011, Allami sent a text message to colleagues urging them to "blow away" the competition at a trade show in New York City.
According to his lawsuit, he was arrested without warning by police three days later and detained for over a day while his house was searched. During his detention, a team of police officers allegedly conducted an "intrusive" four-hour search.
"The whole time, the officers kept repeating to the plaintiff's wife that her husband was a terrorist," the filing reads.
"The treatment of the plaintiff and his wife was cavalier, illegal, aggressive, accusatory, and in violation of their most fundamental rights."
Allami, who was 40 when he was arrested, says he has no links to terrorist organizations or the Islamic movement and that police acted without any evidence or research. He has never been charged in the affair. A search of Quebec's courthouse database finds no other references to him, either.
However, Allami says he hasn't been able to get a certificate of good conduct, which he would need in order to get a job working in finance.
His allegations have not been proven in court and the application is to be presented at the Montreal courthouse on March 5.
Provincial police spokesman Guy Lapointe says the force is aware of the case but will not comment as it is before the courts. A Justice Department spokesperson also declined to comment.
Police had in Laval, Que., where he applied for the certificate, found terrorism accusations and public mischief on his file, even though his public file shows no signs of the allegations.
"Without the certificate of good conduct, the plaintiff can no longer work in his profession," the document states.
Allami is being represented by Julius Grey, a well-known Montreal lawyer.
Contacted earlier this week, Grey said neither he nor his client wished to speak about the facts.
"It presents interesting issues of law and profiling but I feel uncomfortable debating it outside the courtroom," Grey said.
The motion he filed makes allusions to the profiling issue.
"Without any evidence, and without any follow-up, the (provincial police) just cannot go about arresting North Africans, of Muslim persuasion, inferring they are terrorists, giving them a police record, and destroying their reputation, credibility and livelihoods," the motion reads.
Allami says he sent the text message in French and used the word ''exploser,'' a term he claims is commonly used in finance to mean grow or succeed.
His case has surfaced after another story about an unexpected national-security case, triggered by what appeared to be a meaningless comment.
There have been reports of two British tourists who said they were banned from entering the United States — with one of them handcuffed, arrested and flagged as a threat by the Department of Homeland Security over Twitter tongue-in-cheek messages about going to ''destroy America'' and dig up Marilyn Monroe's body.
veoma interesantan intervju iz 1934 gde je H. G. Wells razgovarao sa Staljinom.
http://rationalrevolution.net/special/library/cc835_44.htm
Razmišljao sam gde da turim ovaj link, jer ima više veze za Bolonjskom deklaracijom, ali neka ga tu. Ako su Ameri primetili da im javno školstvo postaje sve bezvrednije u odnosu na školovanje bogatih porodica, mogli bismo i mi konačno da shvatimo šta se nama događa - postajemo sve bezvredniji u odnosu na one koji su nam ovakvo školstvo velikodušno nametnuli.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/education/education-gap-grows-between-rich-and-poor-studies-show.html?_r=1&hp (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/education/education-gap-grows-between-rich-and-poor-studies-show.html?_r=1&hp)
Alan Mur piše za BBC
Viewpoint: V for Vendetta and the rise of Anonymous
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16968689 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16968689)
AMERIKA NA IVICI NACIZMA
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http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/02/marine-corps-insists-marines-are-too-dumb-know-nazi-flag/48533/ (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/02/marine-corps-insists-marines-are-too-dumb-know-nazi-flag/48533/)
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Sa takvim priručnikom svako može da bude predsednik SAD.
Nije bas propast, ali dosta govori o Amerikancima; (gruba) racunica je sjajna: od kada je ubijen na svakih 8 dana objavi se knjiga o Linkolnu :shock:
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Ford's Theater (http://fords.org/)'s Center for Education and Leadership sports a 6,800 volume, 34-foot-tall tower of (aluminum replica) books about Abraham Lincoln.
The majority of the titles are histories and biographies about Abraham Lincoln. Also included are books of Lincoln's speeches, books of quotations or quips and one or two travel titles (i.e.: Indiana's Lincolnland by Mike Capps and Jane Ammenson). Several children's titles also are included, though not much in the way of adult historical fiction.
(Many sites report that there are 15,000 books in the pile, but that's not correct).
Skyscraping Tower of Abraham Lincoln Books (http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/ford-theater-abraham-lincoln-tower-of-books)
Sve dok ne pokušaju da naprave isto za knjige o Šekspiru. Treba će im veći čamac konferencijski centar.
American Children Eating Rats to Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60_mVdr-AkE#ws)
Ne puše, ne piju, ne jedu...
FBI daje uputstva kako da prepoznate teroriste:
http://www.vesti-online.com/Vesti/Svet/203088/FBI-Kako-prepoznati-teroristu (http://www.vesti-online.com/Vesti/Svet/203088/FBI-Kako-prepoznati-teroristu)
Noam Chomsky
'Losing' the world: American decline in perspective, part 1
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/14/losing-the-world-american-decline-noam-chomsky (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/14/losing-the-world-american-decline-noam-chomsky)
uf, Chomsky, sad mora nesto neozbiljno
Man has heart attack while eating at The Heart Attack Grill
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If you weigh over 350 pounds, you can eat at the Heart Attack Grill for free (according to the Las Vegas eatery's slogan). But if you should keel over, gripping your chest in agony, while scarfing down a triple bypass burger (that's what the monstrosity pictured up top is called), don't expect any of the scantily clad waitresses "nurses" to come running — chances are, they'll just think you're kidding.
According to NPR, that's exactly what happened a few nights ago when one of the patrons (called "patients" by restaurant staff) had a heart attack while eating at the bastion of morbidly excessive gluttony; the restaurant's owner, "Doctor" Jon Basso (not a real doctor — though he has, in the past, owned a chain of Jenny Craig weight-loss centers), initially thought the incident was a joke.
"One of the nurses came back to me and said, 'Dr. Jon, we've got a patient who's in trouble,'" said Basso in an interview with a local news station (http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/16937627/man-suffers-heart-attack-at-heart-attack-grill?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=6744445).
I don't know what's more ridiculous — the fact that somebody actually had a heart attack at the Heart Attack Grill less than five months after it opened its doors; that Basso still thought to refer to the waitress as a "nurse," even when he was being interviewed about one of his patrons suffering from a heart attack; or the idea that one of the staff would still have the composure necessary to stick to the restaurant's whole doctor/nurse/patient schtick in the midst of an actual medical emergency. Say what you will about the restaurant's... unique business model — to be that obtuse requires some serious dedication.
The heart-attack victim — an unidentified man in his forties, shown here being wheeled out of the restaurant — is said to be alive and recovering. Who knows, maybe he can become the restaurant's new spokesperson — the previous one died of health complications last March (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HeartHealth/blair-river-hefty-heart-attack-grill-spokesman-dies/story?id=13056400#.Tz1-G0xST9S).
Sick: Young, Undercover Cops Flirted With Students to Trick Them Into Selling Pot
Working at the Drug Policy Alliance for the last twelve years I have read and heard countless stories of people having their lives ruined because of our country's cruel war on drugs. Last weekend, the nationally syndicated show This American Life highlighted a story (http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/457/what-i-did-for-love?act=2%20)that is so insane, you don't know whether to laugh or puke.
Last year in three high schools in Florida, several undercover police officers posed as students. The undercover cops went to classes, became Facebook friends and flirted with the other students. One 18-year-old honor student named Justin fell in love with an attractive 25-year-old undercover cop after spending weeks sharing stories about their lives, texting and flirting with each other.
One day she asked Justin if he smoked pot. Even though he didn't smoke marijuana, the love-struck teen promised to help find some for her. Every couple of days she would text him asking if he had the marijuana. Finally, Justin was able to get it to her. She tried to give him $25 for the marijuana and he said he didn't want the money -- he got it for her as a present.
A short while later, the police did a big sweep and arrest 31 students -- including Justin. Almost all were charged with selling a small amount of marijuana to the undercover cops. Now Justin has a felony hanging over his head.
This story is not unique to Florida and it reminds me of an 18-year-old Mitchell Lawrence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek0fZExTqQ8#ws), a young man from Great Barrington, Mass., who served two years in jail for selling a joint to an undercover cop. The officer befriended Lawrence and his friends and would hang out with them. One day the cop asked if Lawrence had any weed. Lawrence gave the cop a joint. The cop handed him $20. Lawrence hesitated, but the cop insisted on giving him the money. "Selling" the joint, because they were hanging out less than a 1000 feet from a school, and thus was considered a "drug free school zone," carried a mandatory minimum two-year sentence.
The drug war is sick. How much money was wasted by our law enforcement to get these few bags of marijuana "off the streets"? How do these cops look themselves in the mirror? Seducing 18-year-olds to fall in love or pretending to be friends and then tricking them into procuring small amounts of marijuana so they can charge them with felonies is beyond slimy and diametrically opposed to the officers' charge to "serve and protect."
We often hear that we need to fight the drug war to protect the kids. As these despicable examples show, more often the drug war is ruining young people's lives and doing more harm than good.
By Tony Newman | Sourced from AlterNet
Posted at February 15, 2012, 12:34 pm
Santorum potegao nisko:
Santorum says Obama agenda not "based on Bible" (http://news.yahoo.com/santorum-says-obama-agenda-not-based-bible-011457960.html)
QuoteCOLUMBUS, Ohio (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum challenged President Barack Obama's Christian beliefs on Saturday, saying White House policies were motivated by a "different theology."
A devout Roman Catholic who has risen to the top of Republican polls in recent days, Santorum said the Obama administration had failed to prevent gas prices rising and was using "political science" in the debate about climate change.
Obama's agenda is "not about you. It's not about your quality of life. It's not about your jobs. It's about some phony ideal. Some phony theology. Oh, not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology," Santorum told supporters of the conservative Tea Party movement at a Columbus hotel.
When asked about the statement at a news conference later, Santorum said, "If the president says he's a Christian, he's a Christian."
But Santorum did not back down from the assertion that Obama's values run against those of Christianity.
"He is imposing his values on the Christian church. He can categorize those values anyway he wants. I'm not going to," Santorum told reporters.
A social conservative, Santorum is increasingly seen as a champion for evangelical Christians in fights with Democrats over contraception and gay marriage.
"This is just the latest low in a Republican primary campaign that has been fueled by distortions, ugliness, and searing pessimism and negativity - a stark contrast with the President who is focused everyday on creating jobs and restoring economic security for the middle class," said Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt.
The campaign's response signaled a new respect for Santorum. Until this week, the Obama campaign appeared exclusively focused on Mitt Romney. Republicans are waging a state-by-state contest to pick a candidate to challenge Obama in November's election.
At a campaign appearance in Florida last month, Santorum declined to correct a voter who called Obama, a Christian, an "avowed Muslim."
Santorum told CNN after that incident, "I don't feel it's my obligation every time someone says something I don't agree with to contradict them, and the president's a big boy, he can defend himself."
QUESTIONS ROMNEY RECORD ON OLYMPICS
On Saturday, Santorum also took aim at Romney, his main Republican rival, on one of the central accomplishments of his resume, saying the former Massachusetts governor's rescue of the 2002 Salt Lake City Winter Olympics required millions of dollars in handouts from the federal government.
The attack was a response to the Romney camp trying to portray Santorum as a proponent of big government because of his use of earmarks while he served in the U.S. Senate.
"He heroically bailed out the Salt Lake City Olympic Games by heroically going to Congress and asking them for tens of millions of dollars to bail out the Salt Lake Olympic Games - in an earmark," Santorum said.
"One of his strongest supporters, John McCain called it potentially the worst boondoggle in earmark history. And now Governor Romney is suggesting, 'Oh, Rick Santorum earmarked,' as he requested almost half a billion dollars of earmarks as governor of Massachusetts to his federal congressmen and senators. Does the word hypocrisy come to mind?" Santorum said.
Romney often talks of how he turned around the struggling Olympics organization and is appearing in Utah on Saturday to mark the anniversary of the Olympics.
In a statement, the Romney campaign said Santorum was in a weak position to challenge its candidate on big spending.
"Sometimes when you shoot from the hip, you end up shooting yourself in the foot. There is a pretty wide gulf between seeking money for post-9/11 security at the Olympics and seeking earmarks for polar bear exhibits at the Pittsburgh Zoo. Mitt Romney wants to ban earmarks, Senator Santorum wants more 'Bridges to Nowhere,'" said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.
(Editing by Peter Cooney)
Da ne pominjemo da je Bobi Braun takoreći sprečen da pošteno sahrani Vitni Hjuston
Bobby Brown Explains Why He Left Whitney Houston's Funeral (http://omg.yahoo.com/news/bobby-brown-explains-why-left-whitney-houstons-funeral-215116333.html)
QuoteWhitney Houston (http://omg.yahoo.com/whitney-houston/)'s funeral packed the inside of Newark's New Hope Baptist Church Saturday. But one notable person who was absent from the crowd was her ex-husband Bobby Brown (http://omg.yahoo.com/bobby-brown/).
A witness tells Us Weekly (http://www.usmagazine.com/) that Brown "was allowed to go in, pay his respects and then he had to leave. He was red-eyed going up to the casket and then left. He was there for 15 minutes."
PHOTOS: Whitney and Bobby's family album (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/whitney-houston-and-bobby-browns-family-album-with-bobbi-kristina-2012132/)
Addressing the speculation that he was thrown out, turned away and rumors that he didn't show at all, Brown, who's schedule to perform at a concert Saturday, has released an official statement, explaining the situation in full.
"My children and I were invited to the funeral of my ex-wife Whitney Houston (http://omg.yahoo.com/whitney-houston/). We were seated by security and then subsequently asked to move on three separate occasions. I fail to understand why security treated my family this way and continue to ask us and no one else to move. Security then prevented me from attempting to see my daughter Bobbi Kristina. In light of the events, I gave a kiss to the casket of my ex-wife and departed as I refused to create a scene. My children are completely distraught over the events. This was a day to honor Whitney. I doubt Whitney would have wanted this to occur. I will continue to pay my respects to my ex-wife the best way I know how."
PHOTOS: Whitney Houston, 1963-2012 (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/whitney-houston-2012112/)
Earlier this week, a source told Us that there is still underlying tension between Houston's relatives and Brown, who married Houston in 1992. Their divorce was finalized in 2007.
VIDEO: Whitney's ups and downs (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/whitney-houston-her-life-in-the-public-eye-2012122)
"There are family members who felt Bobby drove Whitney into drugs," one source explained. "But now Bobby is clean and Whitney has unfortunately passed. So there's resentment."
Da ne kačim sad ovde kako američka vojska spaljuje primerke Kur'ana (http://news.yahoo.com/obama-expresses-deep-regret-over-koran-burning-130521907.html), ta to svi vide i bez mene. Mada ima ovaj gotivan komentar:
QuoteOne book burned.
Two American soldiers murdered.
Our president apologizes.
What's wrong with this picture?
Videli bismo kako bi bilo da su Avganistanci okupirali Ameriku i krenuli da spaljuju primerke američkog ustava, pošti su, jelte, smeće...
Ali ovo:
Maryland swim team retroactively loses county title because of bizarre shaving violation (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/maryland-swim-team-retroactively-loses-county-title-because-153508295.html)
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A Maryland girls swimming team has had its county championship title retroactively stripped for one of the more bizarre retroactive punishments to come down in recent years: It was deemed that improper shaving had occurred.
That's right, improper shaving. Not shaving points mind you, but shaving of body hair. And, as it turns out, if the unnamed player implicated had only shaved a couple hours earlier, she and her teammates would still have their county title.
As reported by a number of Maryland news outlets, the Baltimore Sun and Annapolis Capital among them, the Broadneck (Md.) High girls swimming squad lost its Anne Arundel County title after it was determined that one of the team's swimmers shaved on-site (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/high-school/bal-broadneck-girls-swim-team-has-title-stripped-for-shaving-incident-20120221,0,7569196.story) just before the start of the event. National Federation of State High School Associations (http://www.nfhs.org/) (NFHS) rules for swimming, diving and water polo stipulate that athletes can not shave before, during or after a meet once a team is on-site.
The reason why the NFHS institutes a no shaving on-site policy is to protect the swimmers themselves from possible blood transmission or, in general, doing full body shaves in high school locker rooms, which would maximize the possibility of unsafe practices like sharing razors. Still, the rule can seem quite a bit over the top when one considers generally acceptable practices for other sports; after all, no one is telling football or basketball players that they can't shave after a game or practice.
Because of the violation, Broadneck lost all points won by the swimmer implicated, dropping the Bruins from first to third place in the final standings. Severna Park (Md.) High was later declared the county champion (http://www.hometownannapolis.com/news/HIG/2012/02/19-20/Broadneck-sweeps-region-titles-loses-county-crowns.html) after Broadneck's lost points were redistributed.
Meanwhile, the Annapolis Capital reported that Broadneck swimming coach Colleen Winans was suspended for the Class 4A-3A Regional Championships (http://www.hometownannapolis.com/news/HIG/2012/02/19-20/Broadneck-sweeps-region-titles-loses-county-crowns.html) which were held on Saturday because of her swimmer's violation. A release from the Anne Arundel School District cited the failure of Winans' squad to abide by "the rules of the game and promote ethical relationships among coaches and players," as the reason for the discipline taken against Winans (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/high-school/bal-broadneck-girls-swim-team-has-title-stripped-for-shaving-incident-20120221,0,7569196.story), which included the one-meet ban.
As Swimming World Magazine (http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/) general manager Jason Marsteller noted in an email with Prep Rally, it's the retroactive aspect of Broadneck's punishment that may be most bizarre.
"I'm not sure I've seen much of this type of punishment within the sport," Marsteller wrote in an email. "About the only place retroactive punishments happen is in the case of positive doping tests."
Certainly doping tests and shaving seem a world apart, even if both might provide competitive advantages (doping for obvious reasons, and shaving to reduce drag for competitive swimmers).
Despite Winans absence, Broadneck returned to the top of the area standings, emerging with both a boys and girls regional title (http://www.hometownannapolis.com/news/HIG/2012/02/19-20/Broadneck-sweeps-region-titles-loses-county-crowns.html). The Bruins cruised past runners-up Severna Park by 16.5 points, with a number of Broadneck swimmers citing their coach's unfortunate and bizarre suspension as motivation to win their respective events.
[Related: Olympic swimmer Matt Grevers stuns girlfriend with proposal atop the podium (http://yhoo.it/vZBdjy)]
"I was just going for it trying to pull ahead and do it for my coach because unfortunately she's not here," Broadneck star Lauren Fogarty told the Capital after winning the 100-yard breaststroke event to seal the Bruins' regional crown. "We got disqualified in counties and she got in trouble; so that one was for her. I wanted to make the team proud and her proud."
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A evo i nešto mnogo gore: devetogodišnje dete umrlo jer ga je baba terala da trči tri sata bez prestanka pošto je lagalo u vezi sa čokoladicama:
2 charged in death of Ala girl forced to run (http://news.yahoo.com/2-charged-death-ala-girl-forced-run-082216169.html)
QuoteATTALLA, Ala. (AP) — Roger Simpson said he looked down the road and saw a little girl running outside her home but didn't give it another thought. Police, however, said the man witnessed a murder in progress.
Authorities say 9-year-old Savannah Hardin died after being forced to run for three hours as punishment for having lied to her grandmother about eating candy bars. Severely dehydrated, the girl had a seizure and died days later. Now, her grandmother and stepmother who police say meted out the punishment were taken to jail Wednesday and face murder charges.
Witnesses told deputies Savannah was told to run and not allowed to stop for three hours on Friday, an Etowah County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman said. The girl's stepmother, 27-year-old Jessica Mae Hardin, called police at 6:45 p.m., telling them Savannah was having a seizure and was unresponsive.
Simpson said he saw a little girl running at around 4 p.m., but didn't see anybody chasing or coercing her.
"I saw her running down there, that's what I told the detectives," Simpson said from his home on a hill overlooking the Hardins. "But I don't see how that would kill her."
Authorities are still trying to determine whether Savannah was forced to run by physical coercion or by verbal commands. Deputies were told the girl was made to run after lying to her grandmother, 46-year-old Joyce Hardin Garrard, about having eaten the candy, sheriff's office spokeswoman Natalie Barton said.
Savannah Hardin died Monday at Children's Hospital in Birmingham, according to a news release from the sheriff's office. The sheriff's release said an autopsy report showed the girl was extremely dehydrated and had a very low sodium level. A state pathologist ruled it a homicide.
The sheriff's office received calls from concerned citizens who witnessed the girl running. No other details were released, but an official with the local volunteer fire department said rescuers thought something seemed odd when they responded to a call about the child.
"One of the ones who were down there said he didn't feel like everything was right," said Ruby Ward, vice president of the Mountainboro Volunteer Fire Department.
Gail Denny and her husband Phil, live just up a dirt road from the home. They've known the family since they moved to the area in northeastern Alabama seven years ago.
The couple said they were used to seeing Savannah and other neighborhood children out waiting on the school bus in the morning. Gail Denny said her grandson had a crush on Savannah.
"My grandson asked her to be his girlfriend on Valentine's Day, and she said 'yes,'" she said before dissolving into tears. She left a candle and stuffed animal outside the girl's home Wednesday night, saying a prayer as she paused beside the road.
The trailer where Savannah lived was surrounded by a wooden fence, playground equipment and toys. Neighbors say they never saw children playing in the yard.
They told The Associated Press that Garrard owned a lot of property along the road and much of her family lived in homes on that property.
"It seems like a very happy extended family around here," Denny said. "There are mothers, grandmothers, kids. It sounds like a punishment that got out of hand."
Garrard and Jessica Mae Hardin are being held in the Etowah County Detention Center, each on a $500,000 cash bond.
Court records show that Robert Hardin filed for divorce in August of 2010. In his complaint, he asserted his wife was bi-polar and had alcoholic tendencies. He accused her previously of having run off with the couple's own child. In her response, Jessica denied all of Robert's allegations.
Five months after filing for divorce, the two asked a judge to dismiss their case.
Savannah Hardin was a third-grader at Carlisle Elementary School. Superintendent Alan Cosby said her desk had been turned into a makeshift memorial where her classmates could leave notes and mementos. He said counselors and social workers were made available for students.
"This is obviously a very tragic, devastating, heartbreaking situation," Cosby said. "Nothing like this has ever happened before."
Moja unuka od godinu i po tera babu da trči satima svaki drugi dan, pa ništa. :mrgreen:
Ali ne do smrti. Sigurno je u tome razlika.
Ima različitih razlika, ali ja nisam bio na pripremama kao ti.
A ima i ovakih:
Fake 9/11 hero admits lie; fellow firefighters furious (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/fake-9-11-hero-admits-lie-fellow-firefighters-192558839.html)
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A South Carolina man who told his fellow firefighters he was one of the first responders on 9/11 has admitted it was a lie.
Jordan Lifander, a former Cedarhurst, Long Island volunteer firefighter, said this week (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/02/22/phony-911-hero-comes-clean-but-his-apology-falls-on-deaf-ears/) that he was sorry for telling firefighters in the Palmetto State that he was a captain of FDNY's Ladder 133, which lost 12 men on Sept. 11.
"You know, once you tell one lie, you gotta keep up that lie," Lifander told CBSNewYork.com (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/02/22/phony-911-hero-comes-clean-but-his-apology-falls-on-deaf-ears/) on Wednesday. "I got all caught up in the whole 9/11 anniversary and just lied. I was not a member of the FDNY, was not a captain in Ladder 133."
Lifander "did not survive the disaster any more than those of us who watched it on television," CBS 2's Lou Young wrote.
Dressed in a uniform with an FDNY patch, Lifander spoke at a 9/11 memorial service in Spartanburg, S.C., last year (http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20120222/ARTICLES/120229908), telling the crowd he attended "47 funerals in three weeks for brothers who died that day." He received a standing ovation.
According to the Spartanburg Herald-Journal, current and former New York City firefighters contacted the paper on Monday saying Liflander's story was a "sham."
When contacted by the paper, he said he had been "trying to get out of the situation" and "got caught up in the moment."
"I wanted to represent what everybody was honoring that day," he said. "I told it from a New Yorker's point of view."
"It was that whole thing about portraying something I wasn't," Lifander told CBS 2. "The ego, the lie, keeping up with it, a very big mistake ... It just snowballed into something that was out of my control. I'm truly sorry for misleading and lying."
"I'm outraged," Bill Youngson, former captain of Ladder 133, told BlueRidgeNow.com (http://www.blueridgenow.com/article/20120222/ARTICLES/120229908?p=3&tc=pg). "I'm sick and tired of people standing up and telling people these stories for a little bit of glory. People have cancer, I have asthma and we paid our dues. In six months, we buried more people than you've ever seen and to read this story—this lie—it has to stop. Put that guy on the wall of shame."
"It's sad, and it's disgusting," Billy Goldfeder, deputy chief of Cincinnati's Loveland-Symms Fire Dept. who runs FirefighterCloseCalls.com (http://www.firefighterclosecalls.com/), told Yahoo News. "There's nothing more sacred than a firefighter's death in the line of duty death. It doesn't get much lower than what he did."
Firefighters at Lifander's former Long Island firehouse are, understandably, livid, too.
"It's a terrible situation," Cedarhurst FD capt. John McHugh told CBS. "I feel bad for the people of South Carolina and I feel bad for the people in the whole 9/11 system."
"It happens a lot because they want to get that hero worship, people telling them 'thank you,'" former FDNY deputy chief Jim Riches added. "It's a sick mind, but he's not the only one doing it. It's out there and I think people should verify who's actually speaking to them."
It's not clear if Lifander is currently a firefighter in South Carolina. A call to Lifander's home was not immediately returned.
The only positive news to come out of this--if there is some--is that it does not appear Lifander used his faux FDNY status for financial gain.
"We've seen 9/11 imposters before, but usually in connection with attempts to defraud the 9/11 victims' compensation fund," Young wrote. "It appears that [he] was interested in glory and not money."
Goldfeder added: "Hopefully, if any good comes of this, it's that people will do some work to verify who they get to speak."
Meho, razvodnjavaš temu. Ističeš pojavu koja ima globalni karakter. Mi smo 1945. imali više prvoboraca nego partizana, više narodnih heroja nego prvoboraca, uopšte. Jedan moj tehničar iz Mostara je uporno vodio spor da dobije taj status, jer je "još 1941. pucao na avione dok je čuvao ovce". Jedan naš bezbednjak je devedesetih imao tri slave - "da nadoknadi manjak" iz prethodnih godina. Od tri miliona članova Saveza komunista danas 2.7 miliona tvrdi da to nikad nisu bili. Svojevremeno je po Beogradu kolao vic o kubanskim "barbudosima" i njihovim privilegijama. U gradskom saobraćaju je bilo dovoljno da se uhvate za bradu i kažu: "Barbudos!" Pa, tako, uđe u autobus jedan golobradi i kaže isto, kondukter ga pogleda upitno, a on se uhvati za sastav pantalona i kaže: "Secret service." :lol:
Ali tema je AMERIKA na ivici propasti!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dakle, ja je se držim!!!!!!!!! A ti razvodnjavaš!!!!!!!!!!! Ali nema veze, praštam ja, pa mi muslimani smo takvi, blagi i puni praštanja.
Scallop hoće da Amerika propadne "on their own device", a ne s ovom opštom pričom. Cilj je da propadne samo Amerika, a ne ceo svet.
Ne, Meho moj, podcenjuješ ti mene. Ono što ti linkuješ ovde blage veze nema sa naslovom topika. Ono zbog čega Amerika jeste na ivici propasti ti ni ne dodiruješ. Propast je što su ponovo natukli Dow Jones na 13.000 što znači da ništa nisu naučili iz tekuće krize. To što su preterali svoju krizu na leđa EU je privremeno, Evropa više neće biti blesava da zavisi od njihovih institucija. A tada će njihova bitka za resurse, do kojih neće moći da stignu, imati katastrofalne posledice. Nažalost, i po tebe i mene.
Mac, neću ja da propadne Amerika, ta tamo mi živi pola porodice. Hoću de se zna da su na ivici propasti, svojom krivicom, i da im to i svojim mišljenjem moramo dati do znanja.
Oneeeee!
A ko ce onda da snima filmove o Superherojima!?!??!
Moramo nesto da ucinimo!
Ko je da damo azil svim filmskim studijima iz kalifornije ovde negde po Srbiji?
Mi makar imamo mesta...
Pa stripovi, pa figurice!
Windows!!! Igrice!!!
...nije mi dobro....
Da se ne zezamo, JA stvarno ne zelim Amerika da propadne, kakva god da je!
svarog glas razuma. :lol:
Плебејац. Леба и игара. А на леба?
Lili ovde jedina razume...
Folirant je to, moj Svarože. Kuva se kao žaba, natenane, a misli da joj je toplo.
pa ti budi dobra dusa....
:lol: :lol: :lol:
'Evropa više neće biti blentava'?! Sa Britanijom kao (koja ono beše?) 51. zvezdicom na US zastavi, ponapijanim Skandinavcima, zaboravnim Francuzima i duboko u sijesti Špancima, Talijanima i pripadajućim im Grcima? Dok se Prusi ne dosete da im Rusi fale, Kinezi će već odavno u Beču mazati zaher torte. I nositi kaubojske šešire.
...more, Kinezi ce pre svi da nose sajkace i piju sljivovicu kako smo poceli....
Oće oće. Izučili su oni japansku školu.
Ma, nije u pitanju ko će, nego dal' će. Nije dal' će neko, nego dal' će iko. Voleo bih da optimisti izlože varijantu u kojoj ćemo igrati igrice, lupetati po wordu, šnjurati po Guglu ili bilo šta što bismo možda želeli, ako se ne odustane od sadašnjih ekonomskih modela. Ja ne vidim drugo rešenje nego da obnovimo infrastrukturu, logistiku i bazne proizvodnje, e da bismo imali nešto da menjamo sa svetom. Inače, sve će da nam uzmu, a mi ćemo da rmbamo za ništa.
Šta?! Još je ostalo nešto što će da nam uzmu?!
Onda ipak stojimo bolje no što sam mislio.
Dokle god postoje nekakvi resursi neko će ih trošiti. To je otprilike najoptimističnije što trenutno mogu.
Man shocked by arrest after daughter draws picture of gun at school
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http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/676150--man-shocked-by-arrest-after-daughter-draws-picture-of-gun-at-school (http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/676150--man-shocked-by-arrest-after-daughter-draws-picture-of-gun-at-school)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/nyregion/to-pay-new-york-pension-fund-cities-borrow-from-it-first.html?_r=3&hp (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/28/nyregion/to-pay-new-york-pension-fund-cities-borrow-from-it-first.html?_r=3&hp)
Ludilo ubrzano osvaja...
To Pay New York Pension Fund, Cities Borrow From It FirstQuoteALBANY — When New York State officials agreed to allow local governments to use an unusual borrowing plan to put off a portion of their pension obligations, fiscal watchdogs scoffed at the arrangement, calling it irresponsible and unwise.
QuoteAnd now, their fears are being realized: cities throughout the state, wealthy towns such as Southampton and East Hampton, counties like Nassau and Suffolk, and other public employers like the Westchester Medical Center and the New York Public Library are all managing their rising pension bills by borrowing from the very same $140 billion pension fund to which they owe money.
Across New York, state and local governments are borrowing $750 million this year to finance their contributions to the state pension system, and are likely to borrow at least $1 billion more over the next year. The number of municipalities and public institutions using this new borrowing mechanism to pay off their annual pension bills has tripled in a year.
itd...
http://singularityhub.com/2012/02/28/lab-grown-burger-to-be-served-in-six-months/ (http://singularityhub.com/2012/02/28/lab-grown-burger-to-be-served-in-six-months/)
Reklamokratija, veliko pile, velika krava 8)
QuoteA number of laboratories around the world are trying to grow meat in a Petri dish. So far we've heard about clumps of cells grown from stem cells with the hope that those cells will one day grow into a full-sized, grill-ready chicken fillet or hamburger. Now one researcher says the time to fire up the propane is fast approaching. Researcher Mark Post announced to his in vitro meat producing colleagues that his lab will have a hamburger fit for consumption sometime this fall.
Did you say you wanted cheese on that?
Ajde hororaši, da vidimo šta će vi diznesete na trpezu. xdrinka Amontilado?
Znači ona krava iz restorana sa kraja univerzuma i nije bila Bog zna šta.
Vrhunska biznis politika: Sečeš uši krpiš dupe.
Nije to ništa. Rusi su imali jednu ovcu kojoj je rep bio debeo i mesnat. Samo odsečeš rep, on ponovo izraste. Pričo mi Đilas xcheers
A jel mora i da se soli?
S tekilom, da!
http://rt.com/usa/news/348-act-tresspass-buildings-437/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/348-act-tresspass-buildings-437/)
Goodbye, First Amendment: 'Trespass Bill' will make protest illegal Get short URL (http://rt.com/usa/news/348-act-tresspass-buildings-437/) email story to a friend (http://rt.com/emailstory/?doc_id=85437&type_doc=1&referer=http%3A%2F%2Frt.com%2Fusa%2Fnews%2F348-act-tresspass-buildings-437%2F%3Fref%3Dnf) print version (http://rt.com/usa/news/348-act-tresspass-buildings-437/print/) Published: 29 February, 2012, 02:13
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Washington: US park police detains a Christian religious activist during a pro-life demonstration in front of the White House in Washington on February 16, 2012. (AFP Photo/Jewel Samad)
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Just when you thought the government couldn't ruin the First Amendment any further: The House of Representatives approved a bill on Monday that outlaws protests in instances where some government officials are nearby, whether or not you even know it.
The US House of Representatives voted 388-to-3 in favor of H.R. 347 (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c112:6:./temp/%7Ec1121WG30B::) late Monday, a bill which is being dubbed the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011. In the bill, Congress officially makes it illegal to trespass on the grounds of the White House, which, on the surface, seems not just harmless and necessary, but somewhat shocking that such a rule isn't already on the books. The wording in the bill, however, extends to allow the government to go after much more than tourists that transverse the wrought iron White House fence.
Under the act, the government is also given the power to bring charges against Americans engaged in political protest anywhere in the country.
Under current law, White House trespassers are prosecuted under a local ordinance, a Washington, DC legislation that can bring misdemeanor charges for anyone trying to get close to the president without authorization. Under H.R. 347, a federal law will formally be applied to such instances, but will also allow the government to bring charges to protesters, demonstrators and activists at political events and other outings across America.
The new legislation allows prosecutors to charge anyone who enters a building without permission or with the intent to disrupt a government function with a federal offense if Secret Service is on the scene, but the law stretches to include not just the president's palatial Pennsylvania Avenue home. Under the law, any building or grounds where the president is visiting — even temporarily — is covered, as is any building or grounds "restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance."
It's not just the president who would be spared from protesters, either.
Covered under the bill is any person protected by the Secret Service. Although such protection isn't extended to just everybody, making it a federal offense to even accidently disrupt an event attended by a person with such status essentially crushes whatever currently remains of the right to assemble and peacefully protest.
Hours after the act passed, presidential candidate Rick Santorum was granted Secret Service protection. For the American protester, this indeed means that glitter-bombing the former Pennsylvania senator is officially a very big no-no, but it doesn't stop with just him. Santorum's coverage under the Secret Service began on Tuesday, but fellow GOP hopeful Mitt Romney has already been receiving such security. A campaign aide who asked not to be identified confirmed last week to CBS News that former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has sought Secret Service protection as well. Even former contender Herman Cain received the armed protection treatment when he was still in the running for the Republican Party nod.
In the text of the act, the law is allowed to be used against anyone who knowingly enters or remains in a restricted building or grounds without lawful authority to do so, but those grounds are considered any area where someone — rather it's President Obama, Senator Santorum or Governor Romney — will be temporarily visiting, whether or not the public is even made aware. Entering such a facility is thus outlawed, as is disrupting the orderly conduct of "official functions," engaging in disorderly conduct "within such proximity to" the event or acting violent to anyone, anywhere near the premises. Under that verbiage, that means a peaceful protest outside a candidate's concession speech would be a federal offense, but those occurrences covered as special event of national significance don't just stop there, either. And neither does the list of covered persons that receive protection.
Outside of the current presidential race, the Secret Service is responsible for guarding an array of politicians, even those from outside America. George W Bush is granted protection until ten years after his administration ended, or 2019, and every living president before him is eligible for life-time, federally funded coverage. Visiting heads of state are extended an offer too, and the events sanctioned as those of national significance — a decision that is left up to the US Department of Homeland Security — extends to more than the obvious. While presidential inaugurations and meeting of foreign dignitaries are awarded the title, nearly three dozen events in all have been considered a National Special Security Event (NSSE) since the term was created under President Clinton. Among past events on the DHS-sanctioned NSSE list are Super Bowl XXXVI, the funerals of Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford, most State of the Union addresses and the 2008 Democratic and Republican National Conventions.
With Secret Service protection awarded to visiting dignitaries, this also means, for instance, that the federal government could consider a demonstration against any foreign president on American soil as a violation of federal law, as long as it could be considered disruptive to whatever function is occurring.
When thousands of protesters are expected to descend on Chicago this spring for the 2012 G8 and NATO summits, they will also be approaching the grounds of a National Special Security Event. That means disruptive activity, to whichever court has to consider it, will be a federal offense under the act.
And don't forget if you intend on fighting such charges, you might not be able to rely on evidence of your own. In the state of Illinois, videotaping the police, under current law, brings criminals charges (http://rt.com/usa/news/summit-chicago-law-public-725/). Don't fret. It's not like the country will really try to enforce it — right?
On the bright side, does this mean that the law could apply to law enforcement officers reprimanded for using excessive force on protesters at political events? Probably. Of course, some fear that the act is being created just to keep those demonstrations from ever occuring, and given the vague language on par with the loose definition of a "terrorist" under the NDAA, if passed this act is expected to do a lot more harm to the First Amendment than good.
United States Representative Justin Amash (MI-03) was one of only three lawmakers to vote against the act when it appeared in the House late Monday. Explaining his take on the act through his official Facebook account on Tuesday, Rep. Amash writes, "The bill expands current law to make it a crime to enter or remain in an area where an official is visiting even if the person does not know it's illegal to be in that area and has no reason to suspect it's illegal."
"Some government officials may need extraordinary protection to ensure their safety. But criminalizing legitimate First Amendment activity — even if that activity is annoying to those government officials — violates our rights," adds the representative.
Now that the act has overwhelmingly made it through the House, the next set of hands to sift through its pages could very well be President Barack Obama; the US Senate had already passed the bill back on February 6. Less than two months ago, the president approved the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, essentially suspending habeas corpus from American citizens. Could the next order out of the Executive Branch be revoking some of the Bill of Rights? Only if you consider the part about being able to assemble a staple of the First Amendment, really. Don't worry, though. Obama was, after all, a constitutional law professor. When he signed the NDAA on December 31, he accompanied his signature with a signing statement (http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-detention-ndaa-aclu-303/)that let Americans know that, just because he authorized the indefinite detention of Americans didn't mean he thought it was right.
Should President Obama suspend the right to assemble, Americans might expect another apology to accompany it in which the commander-in-chief condemns the very act he authorizes. If you disagree with such a decision, however, don't take it to the White House. Sixteen-hundred Pennsylvania Avenue and the vicinity is, of course, covered under this act.
Niko nije ni primetio.
QuoteThe competing attempt by George Bush Sr. and the Nazi faction to set up a 1000 year reich is also collapsing. Geithner has already told the police that both he and Obama work for Bush. The Bushes, like Geithner and others are not allowed to leave the US
http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/benjamin-fulford-2-27-12-u-s-treasury-secretary-timothy-geithner-arrested-questioned-and-released-asian-negotiations-continue-the-cbs-news-network-in-the-us-has-broken-with-the-cabalist/ (http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/benjamin-fulford-2-27-12-u-s-treasury-secretary-timothy-geithner-arrested-questioned-and-released-asian-negotiations-continue-the-cbs-news-network-in-the-us-has-broken-with-the-cabalist/)
"This is America... land of FREEDOM... and LAW!"
Marine's Facebook page tests military rules (http://news.yahoo.com/marines-facebook-page-tests-military-rules-234113159.html)
QuoteSAN DIEGO (AP) — Marine Sgt. Gary Stein first started a Facebook page called Armed Forces Tea Party Patriots to encourage service members to exercise their free speech rights. Then he declared that he wouldn't follow orders from the commander in chief, President Barack Obama.
While Stein softened his statement to say he wouldn't follow "unlawful orders," military observers say he may have gone too far.
The Marine Corps is now looking into whether he violated the military's rules prohibiting political statements by those in uniform and broke its guidelines on what troops can and cannot say on social media. Stein said his views are constitutionally protected.
While troops have always expressed their views in private, Stein's case highlights the potential for their opinions to go global as tech-savvy service members post personal details, videos and pictures that can hurt the military's image at home and abroad.
"I think that it's been pretty well established for a long time that freedom of speech is one area in which people do surrender some of their basic rights in entering the armed forces," said former Navy officer David Glazier, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles.
"Good order and discipline require the military maintain respect for the chain of command," Glazier said. "That includes prohibiting speech critical of the senior officers in that chain of command — up to and including the commander in chief."
According to Pentagon directives, military personnel in uniform can't sponsor a political club; participate in any TV or radio program or group discussion that advocates for or against a political party, candidate or cause; or speak at any event promoting a political movement.
Commissioned officers also may not use contemptuous words against senior officials, including the defense secretary or the president.
In January, an Army reservist wearing camouflaged fatigues got into trouble for taking the stage during a rally in Iowa with Republican presidential candidate and Texas congressman Ron Paul.
Stein was first cautioned by his superiors at Camp Pendleton, north of San Diego, in 2010 after he launched his Facebook page, criticizing Obama's health care overhaul. Stein volunteered to take down the page while he reviewed the rules at the request of his superiors.
He said he determined he was not in violation and relaunched the page under the shortened account name Armed Forces Tea Party. Last week, he said his superiors told him he couldn't use social media sites on government computers after he posted the message stating he would not follow unlawful orders of the president.
Stein said his statement was part of an online debate about NATO allowing U.S. troops to be tried for the Quran burnings in Afghanistan.
In that context, he said, he was stating that he would not follow orders from the president if those orders included detaining U.S. citizens, disarming them or doing anything else that he believes would violate their constitutional rights.
Another Marine alerted his command about the statement, Stein said.
Stein said he respects the office of the president, but he does not agree with Obama's policies. He said he is within his rights to speak up.
"Just because I'm a Marine doesn't mean I don't have free speech or can't say my personal opinion about the president or other public official just like anybody else," Stein said. "The Constitution trumps everything else."
Stein said it's positive when service members are well-versed on the Constitution and what's going on in government.
"When we know what we're fighting for, we fight harder," he said.
The Marine Corps said Stein is allowed to express his personal opinions as long as they do not give the impression he is speaking in his official capacity as a Marine. Spokesman Maj. Michael Armistead said the Corps is taking a closer look to ensure Stein has not crossed that line.
"At this time, he has not been asked to take down the statement on his page," he said.
Stein appears in a dress shirt and tie on his Facebook page but he also describes himself as "a conservative blogger, speaker, the founder of the Armed Forces Tea Party and active-duty, eight-year Marine Corps veteran."
Marine Sgt. Jerret Wright, who liked Stein's page, said Stein "probably skirted the line a little bit" with his latest message about not following Obama's orders, but his boldness in expressing his views has been refreshing in a community that often feels silenced.
"People assume that we're zombies with an on-and-off switch, and that we listen to orders and do nothing else," Wright said.
Military observers say it's not that simple. They say it is bad form to lash out at the commander in chief. Experts also say his Facebook postings appear to link his professional standing with his political views.
They also point out that the Pentagon policy is necessary in preventing political and religious debates that could divide a unit and disrupt the strong working relationship that is needed to carry out missions, Glazier said.
"There are plenty of examples in the world of militaries heavily involved in influencing political events that have shown that is not conducive to civilian rule of law," he said.
Vojnici su robovi.
A radnice u vojničkoj kantini - robinje robova. Prelepo!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Schofield teacher on leave after parent complains of 'pornographic' sci-fi book
Updated: 3/15/2012 12:38 AM By Karen Daily (http://www.aikenstandard.com/reporter/kdaily/) - Staff writer - email:kdaily@aikenstandard.com
A Schofield Middle School teacher has been placed on administrative leave while officials investigate whether the teacher breached school policy or the law when he read to his class from a science fiction book described by one parent as pornographic.
Sources said the teacher read from three books, among them"Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card, as part of the district's literacy initiative program. Card's 1985 novel won several science fiction awards and is listed on numerous children's literary review websites as appropriate for children 12 and up.
The teacher reportedly selected the books, but may have not followed school policy that would require the books first be reviewed.
Joy Shealy, school district academic officer for middle schools, said there is a policy that defines steps teachers ought to take when presenting supplemental material.
"One of the things that teachers are supposed to do is preview material for appropriateness for any questions that may come up," Shealy said. "By doing that, we make sure the materials that are presented to students are age and instructionally appropriate - all the things that make a good instructional program."
The incident that came to light this week involved a student's complaint concerning materials characterized by the student and his parent as pornographic, according to a press release issued by the school district.
"The complaint was communicated to the school Friday and followed by a conference with the school administration Friday afternoon," according to the district's statement.
The administration gathered a written statement from the student, which is normal procedure, and initiated an immediate investigation, according to the administration.
After reviewing the student's statement, school officials indicated that the investigation would continue, school administrators stated this week.
Administrators were reportedly concerned with the report that the books had curse words and terms in them that might not be age appropriate.
Early Monday, during the on-going review of the books, including "Ender's Game," administrators learned from police that the same parent who had approached school officials Friday had filed a report with Aiken Public Safety.
The boy's mother told police she had spoken with the school's principal who told her that "they would handle it in house."
The law requires that school administrators notify local law enforcement officers anytime possible criminal activity is alleged.
Police have not filed any criminal charges against the teacher at this time. The investigation is still ongoing, said Aiken Public Safety Lt. David Turno.
After the teenager's mother contacted police, investigators contacted the school.
School officials have since said two of the three books the teacher read were determined to have materials (primarily swear words) and, in some instances, subject matter and terminology that school administrators consider inappropriate for the middle school.
According to commonsensemedia.org, which claims it is has in-house staff and a team of reviewers who are experts in children's media, technology, health and policy matters, "this book was not originally intended for children. The violence is, at times, quite brutal, as kids kill other kids, though unintentionally, and the main character is admired for his ruthlessly efficient violence, though he himself is disturbed by it."
The website also advises parents to be aware of violence, sex and language, but states that the content is appropriate for children 12 years or older.
The student who gave a statement to the school is 14.
Administrators said the investigation will include whether school staff followed district protocol in a timely manner.
"Matters that involve personnel considerations are dealt with promptly but must take into account reasonable measures to protect the privacy of students and staff," according to the district administration's statement.
The school district has been under fire in the past for failing to report potential illegal behavior to local law enforcement in a timely manner.
In September and October of last year, law enforcement officers were notified of alleged incidents at an area school by parents before anyone with the school contacted police.
Falinka je u proceduri i ovome:
among them"Ender's Game"
Bah... ja sam Ender's Game čitao sa možda 16 godina, mada ne verujem da bi mi ni sa 14 smetala, ali naravno da nije u pitanju slatka knjiga za decu... Ali, stvarno je bizarno da se neko buni da je pornografska...
Pominju se 3, a navodi 1. I, ko zna gde je ta škola. Ja sam dva puta bio na prolećnoj rasprodaji knjiga u školi mojih unuka. Ne možeš zamisliti čega je sve tamo bilo. Da sam im'o voz potrošio bih nekoliko stotina dolara i napunio ga. :lol:
Sećam se nekih komentara gde se pominjala pedofilija u Enderovoj igri, kao, scena ili scene gde se dečačići tuširaju, i pomenu im se i penisi.
We call it "the nation's capital," but that's increasingly a misnomer. Consider Congress, where as last year ended 250 members, or 47% of our representatives, were millionaires, and the estimated median net worth of a senator was $2.56 million. Or consider the city of movers, shakers, and lobbyists they live in. In Washington D.C., "the top fifth of earners in the District make an average of 29 times the income of the bottom fifth." In average annual household salary that translates as $259,000 versus $9,100. For the capital's top 5%, that number is $473,000, "far above the $292,000 averaged by their counterparts in other large cities."
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2012/03/goldman-sachs-resignation-thing-part-ii.html (http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2012/03/goldman-sachs-resignation-thing-part-ii.html)
Job Seekers Getting Asked for Facebook Passwords (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/job-seekers-asked-facebook-passwords-15959061)
Quote
When Justin Bassett interviewed for a new job, he expected the usual questions about experience and references. So he was astonished when the interviewer asked for something else: his Facebook username and password.
Bassett, a New York City statistician, had just finished answering a few character questions when the interviewer turned to her computer to search for his Facebook page. But she couldn't see his private profile. She turned back and asked him to hand over his login information.
Bassett refused and withdrew his application, saying he didn't want to work for a company that would seek such personal information. But as the job market steadily improves, other job candidates are confronting the same question from prospective employers, and some of them cannot afford to say no.
In their efforts to vet applicants, some companies and government agencies are going beyond merely glancing at a person's social networking profiles and instead asking to log in as the user to have a look around.
"It's akin to requiring someone's house keys," said Orin Kerr, a George Washington University law professor and former federal prosecutor who calls it "an egregious privacy violation."
Questions have been raised about the legality of the practice, which is also the focus of proposed legislation in Illinois and Maryland that would forbid public agencies from asking for access to social networks.
Since the rise of social networking, it has become common for managers to review publically available Facebook profiles, Twitter accounts and other sites to learn more about job candidates. But many users, especially on Facebook, have their profiles set to private, making them available only to selected people or certain networks.
Companies that don't ask for passwords have taken other steps — such as asking applicants to friend human resource managers or to log in to a company computer during an interview. Once employed, some workers have been required to sign non-disparagement agreements that ban them from talking negatively about an employer on social media.
Asking for a candidate's password is more prevalent among public agencies, especially those seeking to fill law enforcement positions such as police officers or 911 dispatchers.
Back in 2010, Robert Collins was returning to his job as a security guard at the Maryland Department of Public Safety and Correctional Services after taking a leave following his mother's death. During a reinstatement interview, he was asked for his login and password, purportedly so the agency could check for any gang affiliations. He was stunned by the request but complied.
"I needed my job to feed my family. I had to," he recalled,
After the ACLU complained about the practice, the agency amended its policy, asking instead for job applicants to log in during interviews.
"To me, that's still invasive. I can appreciate the desire to learn more about the applicant, but it's still a violation of people's personal privacy," said Collins, whose case inspired Maryland's legislation.
Until last year, the city of Bozeman, Mont., had a long-standing policy of asking job applicants for passwords to their email addresses, social-networking websites and other online accounts.
And since 2006, the McLean County, Ill., sheriff's office has been one of several Illinois sheriff's departments that ask applicants to sign into social media sites to be screened.
Chief Deputy Rusty Thomas defended the practice, saying applicants have a right to refuse. But no one has ever done so. Thomas said that "speaks well of the people we have apply."
When asked what sort of material would jeopardize job prospects, Thomas said "it depends on the situation" but could include "inappropriate pictures or relationships with people who are underage, illegal behavior."
In Spotsylvania County, Va., the sheriff's department asks applicants to friend background investigators for jobs at the 911 dispatch center and for law enforcement positions.
"In the past, we've talked to friends and neighbors, but a lot of times we found that applicants interact more through social media sites than they do with real friends," said Capt. Mike Harvey. "Their virtual friends will know more about them than a person living 30 yards away from them."
Harvey said investigators look for any "derogatory" behavior that could damage the agency's reputation.
E. Chandlee Bryan, a career coach and co-author of the book "The Twitter Job Search Guide," said job seekers should always be aware of what's on their social media sites and assume someone is going to look at it.
Bryan said she is troubled by companies asking for logins, but she feels it's not a violation if an employer asks to see a Facebook profile through a friend request. And she's not troubled by non-disparagement agreements.
"I think that when you work for a company, they are essentially supporting you in exchange for your work. I think if you're dissatisfied, you should go to them and not on a social media site," she said.
More companies are also using third-party applications to scour Facebook profiles, Bryan said. One app called BeKnown can sometimes access personal profiles, short of wall messages, if a job seeker allows it.
Sears is one of the companies using apps. An applicant has the option of logging into the Sears job site through Facebook by allowing a third-party application to draw information from the profile, such as friend lists.
Sears Holdings Inc. spokeswoman Kim Freely said using a Facebook profile to apply allows Sears to be updated on the applicant's work history.
The company assumes "that people keep their social profiles updated to the minute, which allows us to consider them for other jobs in the future or for ones that they may not realize are available currently," she said.
Giving out Facebook login information violates the social network's terms of service. But those terms have no real legal weight, and experts say the legality of asking for such information remains murky.
The Department of Justice regards it as a federal crime to enter a social networking site in violation of the terms of service, but during recent congressional testimony, the agency said such violations would not be prosecuted.
But Lori Andrews, law professor at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law specializing in Internet privacy, is concerned about the pressure placed on applicants, even if they voluntarily provide access to social sites.
"Volunteering is coercion if you need a job," Andrews said.
Neither Facebook nor Twitter responded to repeated requests for comment.
In New York, Bassett considered himself lucky that he was able to turn down the consulting gig at a lobbying firm.
"I think asking for account login credentials is regressive," he said. "If you need to put food on the table for your three kids, you can't afford to stand up for your belief."
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McFarland reported from Springfield, Ill.
Nije lako fejsbukašima...
FOX NJUZ JAVLJA:
BUDISTIČKI MANIJAK U TUZLI!
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Na mapi su označili Tuzlu, a napisali Toolooze.
Mislili su na čoveka koji je uhapšen u Tuluzu (Toulouse).
Takođe, misle da su Al Kaide budisti.
A, kao da sve to nije dovoljno, pomešali su izjave francuskog ministra Kloda Geana i predsednika Nikolu Sarkozija!
Erm... ali... Tuzla nije u sredini onog kruga. Right?
Quote from: Father Jape on 22-03-2012, 23:50:35
Erm... ali... Tuzla nije u sredini onog kruga. Right?
nije.
pre će biti zaječar.
inače, ovo ispade fejk, kao što sam i slutio (zato rekoh foks NJUZ)- ali ipak, sinpatično je.
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Obamaville (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DApjHZq9o7M#ws)
Kanada na ivici propasti: takmičarka na natjecaju lepote diskvalifikovana jer je rođena kao muškarac:
Miss Universe Canada Disqualifies Transsexual Contestant: She was Born a Boy (http://shine.yahoo.com/beauty/miss-universe-canada-disqualifies-transsexual-contestant-she-born-192000420.html)
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Jenna Talackova (right)Miss Universe Canada officials have banned 23-year-old transsexual Jenna Talackova from participating in the pageant finals to be held in Toronto in May, 2012. The Vancouver contestant was one of sixty-five women chosen to compete in the national contest (which is owned by Donald Trump (http://yhoo.it/GS1NLp)). The Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119786/Jenna-Talackova-Transgender-beauty-queen-kicked-Miss-Universe-Canada-pageant.html) Reports that Denis Davila, national director of Miss Universe Canada, asserts that every contestant must be a "naturally born female." Critics of the decision claim that the rules do not specifically address sex change or plastic surgery.
Related: Should the United States Ban Child Pageants? (http://yhoo.it/H5PESr)
The statuesque blonde Talackova is calling it a human rights issue. She says that she knew she was a girl by age four, started hormone therapy at fourteen, and had sex reassignment surgery at nineteen. She's previously competed in both transsexual and women's beauty pageants. "All I can say is that they disqualified me because I'm not 'natural born,' she told the National Post (http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03/26/jenna-talackova-miss-universe-canada-disqualified/). "[That] doesn't make sense because since I was conscious, I always felt this way."
After being kicked out of the pageant, Talackova, whose twitter account has since been locked, tweeted, "I'm disqualified, however I'm not giving up. I'm not going to just let them disqualify me over discrimination." Online support for the beauty queen is growing. So far, over twenty-one thousand people have signed a petition (http://www.change.org/petitions/miss-universe-canada-donald-trump-reverse-the-unfair-disqualification-of-jenna-talackova) demanding she be allowed to compete. It reads, "She is a woman and deserves to be treated as any other woman would be."
Talackova, who says she is not doing interviews until she consults a lawyer, describes herself as, "a woman with a past."
Do you think Jenna Talackova should be allowed to compete in the Miss Universe Canada pageant? Let us know in the comments below.
Auh, kako su se organizatori zeznuli. Sad su navukli negativni publicitet...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread823946/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread823946/pg1)
JetBlue march 27,2012 flight 191 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvqvXhXwMbw#ws)
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Nego, meni je potpuno fascinantno ono što se događa sa ubistvom onog klinca na Floridi. Mislim, okej, nije retko da budaletina sa pištoljem ubije nekoga ko nije nikakva pretnja za njega samo zato što ima pištolja ovaj drugi je pogrešne boje kože, ali... jebote, po važećem zakonu na Floridi, ubica nije čak ni uhapšen i ne postoji istraga protiv njega, a koliko shvatam takvi zakoni postoje i u drugim državama u USA. Dakle, veruje mu se na reč da je bila u pitanju nužna samoodbrana i to je to.
http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/213191.sr.html (http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/213191.sr.html)
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Расна драма на Флориди Бесмислено убиство црног 17-годишњака Америку поново суочило са ружним пратиоцем њене историје
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politika.co.rs%2Fuploads%2Frubrike%2F213191%2Fi%2F1%2Famerika-foto-REUTERS.jpg&hash=bdeadfa338d09e150cff5f6b27204b526e5b00bc) Позив на ,,марш милион капуљача" у знак подршке Трејвону Мартину Од нашег сталног дописника
Вашингтон – Америка се поново суочава са ружним лицем расизма, сталног пратиоца њене историје, дебатујући о расним стереотипима и предрасудама за које се у последње три године помислило да су скинуте са дневног реда, јер, ето, ,,имамо црног председника".
Повод је убиство једног црног 17-годишњака на Флориди које, уместо да буде заборављено као и многа друга, већ месец дана ескалира прерастајући у политичку тему која је у фокус ставила питања много сложенија од непосредног повода, увукавши у дебату и председника Барака Обаму.
Убиство се догодило још 26. фебруара у граду Сенфорд на Флориди. Иако цео случај још има нејасних детаља, неке чињенице нису спорне. Жртва је Трејвон Мартин, који се кобне вечери враћао у стан свог оца (живео је иначе с мајком у Мајамију), пошто је накратко изашао да у оближњој продавници купи сок и слаткише.
Убица је 28-годишњи Џорџ Цимерман, припадник ,,грађанске патроле", добровољаца који пазе на ред ,,у комшилуку", што је у Америци неки вид грађанског самоорганизовања.
Цимерману се Мартин учинио ,,сумњивим" јер га дотле није виђао у крају, а по свему судећи понајвише због тога што је преко главе имао капуљачу – навучену зато што је падала киша.
Одмах је, са поруком ,,да му је црно лице сумњиво" и да га прати, обавестио 911 (дежурну службу полиције), одакле му је поручено да праћење обустави.
Зна се да Цимерман тај налог није послушао. У једном моменту је изашао из свог џипа, споречкао се са Мартином и све се завршило тиме што је на крају ненаоружаном 17-годишњаку пуцао у груди.
Кад је на лице места стигла полиција да изврши увиђај, изјавио је да му је живот био угрожен и да је пуцао у самоодбрани. Полиција је прихватила његову верзију, па није ухапшен, нити је покренута било каква истрага.
У Сенфорду, чијих су 30 одсто од 53.000 становника Афроамериканци, ово је био повод да се та заједница подигне на ноге. У прошли четвртак одржан је протестни митинг са 8.000 учесника. Повела се велика дебата преко друштвених мрежа, новине већ данима пишу о разним аспектима случаја, а у полемику се укључио и Обама, емотивном изјавом да би, ,,да има сина, он био исти Трејвон Мартин".
,,Могу да замислим кроз шта пролазе његови родитељи", рекао је Обама. ,,Мислим да би сваки родитељ у Америци морао да схвати зашто је апсолутно неопходно да се истражи сваки аспект ове трагедије."
Пошто је лавина кренула, отворена је истрага. Случај је преузео Департмент правосуђа, а локални шеф полиције поднео је оставку. Џорџ Цимерман је међутим још на слободи.
Једини разлог зашто је несрећни тинејџер био ,,сумњив" и на крају убијен јесте његова боја коже и то што је носио капуљачу, која је по преовлађујућим стереотипима ,,униформа" црних криминалаца.
Сукоб је започео убица, а сви се с разлогом питају како је ненаоружани младић са бакалуком у рукама могао да му ,,угрози живот".
На ширем плану, ово убиство је и резултат америчке ,,културе оружја" која се, нарочито на Флориди, под утицајем моћног лобија, отела свакој контроли.
Флорида је била прва држава која је 2005. усвојила закон ,,не одступај", који крајње либерално тумачи свугде познати институт ,,нужне самоодбране". По том закону, свако има право да потегне оружје на некога ако сматра да су му угрожени безбедност или живот.
Ако је тај стварни или умишљени нападач убијен, убица се сматра невиним и по правилу се нити спроводи истрага нити подиже оптужница. У таквим случајевима обично нема сведока, ,,мртва уста не говоре", а убици се верује на реч.
После Флориде слични закони донети су у још 20 федералних држава, што је америчка десница прогласила великим успехом у заштити личних слобода и борби против такозване велике владе.
Са становишта америчких либерала, то је међутим узимање држави нечега што мора да има да би била држава: монопола на силу.
На закон ,,не одступај" навелико се, избегавајући хапшење и суђење, позивају убице у обрачунима међу криминалцима, па и у многим случајевима оправдавају убистава због љубоморе или неке друге освете.
У случају Трејвона Мартина, утисак је да доминира расни аспект, између осталог и зато што је Флорида дуго сматрана моделом новог мултирасног и мултиетничког друштва у Америци.
Расни аспект је посебно деликатан управо због тога што је у Белој кући први Афроамериканац у америчкој историји.
,,То разговоре о раси у Америци није олакшала, него отежало", написала је у ,,Вашингтон посту" Рениква Ален, новинарка и сарадница Фондације нова Америка, и сама Афроамериканка. ,,Обамино председништво је 'пострасно' само зато што нам пружа изговор да о раси више не говоримо."
И досад су овде случајеви попут овог изазивали буре које би трајале неко време, па бивале заборављене, а да се ништа битно не би променило. Остаје да се види и да ли је трагедија Трејвора Мартина такође била узалудна.
Милан Мишић
објављено: 28.03.2012
Kao i uvek komentari Politikinih čitalaca su... prosvetljujući. :shock:
A evo i na američkom jeziku:
Trayvon Martin Video Shows No Blood or Bruises on George Zimmerman (http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-video-shows-no-blood-bruises-george-194108003--abc-news-topstories.html)
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A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin (http://news.yahoo.com/US/trayvon-martin-family-seeks-fbi-investigation-killing/story?id=15949879)was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman (http://news.yahoo.com/US/trayvon-martin-shooter-teenager-gun/story?id=16000239), the neighborhood watch captain who says he shot Martin after he was punched in the nose, knocked down and had his head slammed into the ground.
The surveillance video (http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475), which was obtained exclusively by ABC News, shows Zimmerman arriving in a police cruiser. As he exits the car, his hands are cuffed behind his back. Zimmerman is frisked and then led down a series of hallways, still cuffed.
Zimmerman, 28, is wearing a red and black fleece and his face and head are cleanly shaven. He appears well built, hardly the portly young man depicted in a 2005 mug shot that until a two days ago was the single image the media had of Zimmerman.
The initial police report noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from the back of the head and nose, and after medical attention it was decided that he was in good enough condition to travel in a police cruiser to the Sanford, Fla., police station for questioning.
His lawyer later insisted that Zimmerman's nose had been broken in his scuffle with 17-year-old Martin.
In the video an officer is seen pausing to look at the back of Zimmerman's head, but no abrasions or blood can be seen in the video and he did not check into the emergency room following the police questioning.
Zimmerman was not arrested although ABC News has learned that the lead homicide investigator filed an affidavit urging Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter. The prosecutor, however, told the officer to not file the charge because there was not enough evidence for conviction.
Zimmerman said he was heading back to his car when Martin attacked him. His lawyer, Craig Sonner, said his client felt "one of them was going to die that night," when he pulled the trigger.
Martin's girlfriend (http://news.yahoo.com/US/trayvon-martin-arrest-now-abc-reveals-crucial-phone/story?id=15959017), who was on the phone with him in his final moments, told ABC News in an exclusive interview that she has not been interviewed by police, despite Martin telling her he was being followed.
The 16-year-old girl, who is only being identified as DeeDee, recounted the final moments of her conversation with Martin before the line went dead.
"When he saw the man behind him again he said this man is going to do something to him. And then he said this man is still behind him and I said run," she said.
Phone records obtained by ABC News show that the girl called Martin at 7:12 p.m., five minutes before police arrived, and remained on the phone with Martin until moments before he was shot.
DeeDee said Martin turned around and asked Zimmerman why he was following him.
"The man said what are you doing around here?" DeeDee recalled Zimmerman saying.
She said she heard someone pushed into the grass before the call was dropped.
Zimmerman, who had called 911, was asked by the dispatcher if he was following the teen. When Zimmerman replied that he was, the dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that."
Martin's death has sparked protests across the country and prompted President Obama to say that if he had a son, he would look like Martin.
Over the past few days, leaks have emerged suggesting Martin was dogged by discipline problems.
Martin had been slapped with a 10 day school suspension (http://news.yahoo.com/US/trayvon-martin-investigator-wanted-charge-george-zimmerman-manslaughter/story?id=16011674) after a bag with suspected marijuana was found in his backpack, Benjamin Crump, the family's attorney, said.
Last year the teen was suspended for spraying graffiti on school grounds. The Miami Herald reported that the school guard who stopped him searched his backpack and found 12 items of women's jewelry and a flathead screw driver that the guard believed to be a "burglary implement." But Martin was never charged or specifically disciplined for the incident.
Crump alleged that the Sanford police had leaked damaging information about Martin in order to muddy the case, calling it a "conspiracy." Crump called the school disciplinary problems "irrelevant" to the case that "an unarmed 17 year kid was killed."
Also Read (http://abcnews.go.com/WN/trayvon-martin-case-exclusive-surveillance-video-george-zimmerman/story?id=16022897)
To je ratni zakon.
Postoje i snimci Cimermanovih rasističkih rantova, a njegova porodica objašnjava kako on nikako nije rasista, eto, čak i ima neke prijatelje crnce.
Iraqi defector whose phony WMD intel and "sexed up graphics" led to 100,000+ deaths: "Yes, I lied." (http://boingboing.net/2012/04/03/iraqi-defector-whose-phony-wmd.html) By Xeni Jardin (http://boingboing.net/author/xeni_jardin) at 9:32 am Tuesday, Apr 3
Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, aka "Curveball (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_%28informant%29)", an Iraqi defector who falsified testimony about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, confirms that he made the whole thing up in an interview airing this week on the BBC2 TV series, "Modern Spies (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01fqc6z)." The former chemical engineer's "confidence trick" was used by the Bush administration to justify going to war with Iraq in 2003.
Snip from The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/man-whose-wmd-lies-led-to-100000-deaths-confesses-all-7606236.html):
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But Mr Janabi, speaking in a two-part series, Modern Spies, starting tomorrow on BBC2, says none of it was true. When it is put to him "we went to war in Iraq on a lie. And that lie was your lie", he simply replies: "Yes."
US officials "sexed up" Mr Janabi's drawings of mobile biological weapons labs to make them more presentable, admits Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, General Powell's former chief of staff. "I brought the White House team in to do the graphics," he says, adding how "intelligence was being worked to fit around the policy".
You can watch the episode in entirety here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01fnqr8/Modern_Spies_Episode_1/), for a limited time—but alas, only if the BBC's web servers can be convinced that you're in the UK.
(via Doctrine Man (https://twitter.com/doctrine_man/status/187158947726233600)).
Opaki mali razbojnici (između 8 i 10 godina) u lisicama odvedeni iz škole i strpani u zatvorsku ćeliju (pardon, pritvor), gde su ih držali 12 sati.
http://veracitystew.com/2012/04/03/police-state-elementary-school-kids-handcuffed-arrested-for-fighting-video/#.T3sjBr_xoe4.facebook (http://veracitystew.com/2012/04/03/police-state-elementary-school-kids-handcuffed-arrested-for-fighting-video/#.T3sjBr_xoe4.facebook)
Нису разбојници, него...
after allegedly being involved in a fight at the school that led to one of the children being "forced onto railroad tracks"
Ако су неког тукли па га гурнули на шине да га згази воз, мало везивања лисицама је најмање што би требало урадити.
школа личи на ону из 'Жице'
Pitanje je šta se tu stvarno desilo.
Pominje se to što si boldovao, a na snimku se nikakve šine ne spominju, nego da je nekoliko nedelja pre hapšenja jednom detetu gurana glava pod vodu u nekom potoku.
Mislim, ja sam za kažnjavanje nasilnika, a znamo da i mlađa deca od te mogu da ubiju nekog, samo nisam sigurna koliko je šizofreni američki način (dete krene da ti se dere pa te prijave zbog zlostavljanja deteta, a onda ti policija odvede dete u lisicama i drži ga u ćorki 12 sati) efikasan za suzbijanje nasilja.
nadam se da su ih zatvorili u ćeliju s nekim krupnim crnčićima približnih godina... :evil:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-gorejWgA3NA/T3uoro_D07I/AAAAAAAAMVQ/BECb6uHBhk8/s512/P1020878.JPG)
Quote from: angel011 on 03-04-2012, 23:12:05
Mislim, ja sam za kažnjavanje nasilnika, a znamo da i mlađa deca od te mogu da ubiju nekog, samo nisam sigurna koliko je šizofreni američki način (dete krene da ti se dere pa te prijave zbog zlostavljanja deteta, a onda ti policija odvede dete u lisicama i drži ga u ćorki 12 sati) efikasan za suzbijanje nasilja.
Па, као што наслов овог топика каже... :evil:
Quote from: lilit_depp on 04-04-2012, 05:25:13
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Ti dospela do Njujorka? Rispekt!
Pripazi se Obame, taj ne zna za milost, evo i na sudije je nasrnuo:
Judge upset by Obama's comments on health care law (http://news.yahoo.com/judge-upset-obamas-comments-health-care-law-010429840.html)
QuoteHOUSTON (AP) — A federal appeals court judge on Tuesday seemed to take offense to comments President Barack Obama made earlier this week in which he warned that if the Supreme Court overturned his signature health care overhaul it would amount to overreach by an "unelected" court.
The Supreme Court is set to issue a ruling later this year on whether to strike down some or all of the historic health care law.
During oral arguments in Houston in a separate challenge to another aspect of the federal health care law, U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Jerry Smith said Obama's comments troubled a number of people who have read them as a challenge to the authority of federal courts.
"I'm referring to statements by the president in the past few days to the effect, I'm sure you've heard about them, that it is somehow inappropriate for what he termed unelected judges to strike acts of Congress that have enjoyed, he was referring of course to Obamacare, to what he termed a broad consensus and majorities in both houses of Congress," Smith told Dana Kaersvang, an attorney with the Justice Department in Washington, D.C.
On Monday, Obama issued a direct challenge to the Supreme Court, saying he didn't believe the high court would take the "unprecedented" step of overturning a law passed by a strong majority of Congress.
"I want to be sure that you are telling us that the Attorney General and the Department of Justice do recognize the authority of the federal courts through unelected judges to strike acts of Congress or portions thereof in appropriate cases," Smith said.
A somewhat surprised Kaersvang told Smith the Justice Department does recognize this power by the courts and made reference to a landmark 1803 case that formed the basis for judicial review.
However, Smith ordered Kaersvang to submit a letter to the appeals court by Thursday stating the position of U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and the Justice Department on the concept of judicial review.
"The letter needs to be at least three pages, single spaced, no less and it needs to be specific. It needs to make specific reference to the president's statements," Smith said.
The case before the appeals court was brought in part by a spine and joint hospital in East Texas that is challenging the constitutionality of a portion of the health care law that restricts physician-owned hospitals from expanding or building new facilities.
The Justice Department did not immediately return a telephone call late Tuesday seeking comment.
White House officials had no comment on Smith's statements, instead referring to comments Obama made earlier Tuesday at the annual meeting of The Associated Press in Washington.
At the meeting, Obama said the Supreme Court "is the final say on our Constitution and our laws, and all of us have to respect it. ... I have enormous confidence that in looking at this law, not only is it constitutional, but that the Court is going to exercise its jurisprudence carefully because of the profound power that our Supreme Court has."
___
Associated Press writer Will Lester in Washington, D.C., contributed to this report
Quote from: lilit_depp on 04-04-2012, 05:25:13
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U potpisu Joker :evil:
Quote from: lilit_depp on 04-04-2012, 05:25:13
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:-| :-| :-|
Bolji je crni oglas pozadi. Nisam siguran da si stigla doma.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 04-04-2012, 10:59:56
Ti dospela do Njujorka? Rispekt!
Pripazi se Obame, taj ne zna za milost, evo i na sudije je nasrnuo:
Na ulasku u drzavu bejah prisiljena da odslusam deo Obaminog govora tokom sastanka sa kanadskim i meksicim predsednikom. Ne znam da li je ko obratio paznju, ali to je zvucalo gore od novog sveCkog poretka. No, srecom, ima ovde i zabavnijih stvari. :lol:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zpUgIJDDNHo/T30gnwxLBBI/AAAAAAAAMhI/ye9_0BFh_cw/s1280/P1030253.JPG)
skalope ostrooki,
nisam definitivno. ubice me germanofil u meni. ovde je sve kao u srbijici! :)
Šta je sve kao u srbijici?
Pa, sve. Ima svega, samo nema love.
sprema se nova najveca kriza poslije drugog svjetskog rata. nakon sto su spekulanti ugrabili ca. 2 milijarde dolara na cds-ima kladeci se na grcki bankrot, na redu je spanjolska. objasnjenja suvisna, hitler ih je najbolje isprofilirao.
Шта је то србијица?
Quote from: kralj Kuga on 05-04-2012, 11:56:09
sprema se nova najveca kriza poslije drugog svjetskog rata. nakon sto su spekulanti ugrabili ca. 2 milijarde dolara na cds-ima kladeci se na grcki bankrot, na redu je spanjolska. objasnjenja suvisna, hitler ih je najbolje isprofilirao.
Hitler rants about the EU crisis.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Pg9u-88N0#)
Americans brace for next foreclosure wave (http://news.yahoo.com/americans-brace-next-foreclosure-wave-210253440.html)
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GARFIELD HEIGHTS, Ohio (Reuters) - Half a decade into the deepest U.S. housing crisis since the 1930s, many Americans are hoping the crisis is finally nearing its end. House sales are picking up across most of the country, the plunge in prices is slowing and attempts by lenders to claim back properties from struggling borrowers dropped by more than a third in 2011, hitting a four-year low.
But a painful part two of the slump looks set to unfold: Many more U.S. homeowners face the prospect of losing their homes this year as banks pick up the pace of foreclosures.
"We are right back where we were two years ago. I would put money on 2012 being a bigger year for foreclosures than 2010," said Mark Seifert, executive director of Empowering & Strengthening Ohio's People (ESOP), a counseling group with 10 offices in Ohio.
"Last year was an anomaly, and not in a good way," he said.
In 2011, the "robo-signing" scandal, in which foreclosure documents were signed without properly reviewing individual cases, prompted banks to hold back on new foreclosures pending a settlement.
Five major banks eventually struck that settlement with 49 U.S. states in February. Signs are growing the pace of foreclosures is picking up again, something housing experts predict will again weigh on home prices before any sustained recovery can occur.
Mortgage servicing provider Lender Processing Services reported in early March that U.S. foreclosure starts jumped 28 percent in January.
More conclusive national data is not yet available. But watchdog group, 4closurefraud.org which helped uncover the "robo-signing" scandal, says it has turned up evidence of a large rise in new foreclosures between March 1 and 24 by three big banks in Palm Beach County in Florida, one of the states hit hardest by the housing crash
Although foreclosure starts were 50 percent or more lower than for the same period in 2010, those begun by Deutsche Bank were up 47 percent from 2011. Those of Wells Fargo's rose 68 percent and Bank of America's, including BAC Home Loans Servicing, jumped nearly seven-fold -- 251 starts versus 37 in the same period in 2011. Bank of America said it does not comment on data provided by other sources. Wells Fargo and Deutsche Bank did not comment.
Housing experts say localized warning signs of a new wave of foreclosure are likely to be replicated across much of the United States.
Online foreclosure marketplace RealtyTrac estimated that while foreclosures dropped slightly nationwide in February from January and from February 2011, they rose in 21 states and jumped sharply in cities like Tampa (64 percent), Chicago (43 percent) and Miami (53 percent).
RealtyTrac CEO Brandon Moore said the "numbers point to a gradually rising foreclosure tide as some of the barriers that have been holding back foreclosures are removed."
One big difference to the early years of the housing crisis, which was dominated by Americans saddled with the most toxic subprime products -- with high interest rates where banks asked for no money down or no proof of income -- is that today it's mostly Americans with ordinary mortgages whose ability to meet payment have been hit by the hard economic times.
"The subprime stuff is long gone," said Michael Redman, founder of 4closurefraud.org. "Now the folks being affected are hardworking, everyday Americans struggling because of the economy."
"HARD TO CATCH UP"
Until December 2010, Daniel Burns, 52, had spent his working life in the trucking industry as a long-haul driver and manager. When daily loads at the small family business where he worked tailed off, he lost his job.
Unable to cover his mortgage, Burns received a grant from a government fund using money repaid from the 2008 bank bailout. That grant is due to expire in early 2013 and Burns is holding out on hopeful comments from his former employer that he might get his job back if the economy recovers.
"If things don't pick up, I will be out on the street," he said, staring from his living room window at two abandoned houses over the road in the middle-class Cleveland suburb of Garfield Heights, the noise of traffic from a nearby Interstate highway filling the street.
Underscoring the uncertainty of his situation, Burns' cell phone rings and a pre-recorded message announces that his unemployment benefits are due to be cut off in April.
A bit further up the shore of Lake Erie, Cristal Fell, who works night shifts entering data for a trucking company in Toledo, has fallen behind on her mortgage a second time because her ex-husband lost his job and her overtime was cut.
"Once you get behind it's so hard to catch up," she said.
Fell, a mother of four, hopes the economy will gather enough speed to help her avoid any risk of losing her home. Her ex-husband has found a new job and she is getting more overtime, so she hopes she can catch up on her mortgage by the fall.
Burns and Fell are the new face of the U.S. housing crisis: Middle class, suburban or rural with a conventional 30-year fixed mortgage at a reasonable interest rate, but unemployed or underemployed. Although the national unemployment rate has fallen to 8.3 percent from its peak of 10 percent in October 2009, nearly 13 million Americans remain jobless, meaning many are struggling to keep up with their mortgage payments.
Real estate company Zillow Inc says more than one in four American homeowners were "under water" or owed more than their homes were worth in the fourth quarter of 2011. The crisis has wiped out some $7 trillion in U.S. household wealth.
"We're seeing more people coming through who have good loans with reasonable interest rates," said Ed Jacob, executive director of non-profit lender Neighborhood Housing Services of Chicago Inc, which provides foreclosure counseling. "But in many households only one person works now instead of two, or they had their hours cut."
"The answer to the housing crisis now is job creation."
EARLY SIGNS OF UPTICK?
Zillow expects the resurgence in foreclosures this year, combined with excess inventory of unsold, bank-owned homes will contribute to a 3.7 percent national decline in prices before the market hits bottom in 2013 and stays there until 2016.
"The hangover from this crisis will far outlast the party of the boom years," said Zillow chief economist Stan Humphries.
Getting through the remaining foreclosures and dealing with the resulting flood of homes on the market in the wake of the bank settlement is a necessary part of the healing process for the U.S. housing market, he added.
According to leading broker dealer Amherst Securities, some 9.5 million homes are still at risk of default and in February it said it expected to see the uptick in foreclosures start to hit in March and April.
There is other evidence that many of the foreclosures that did not happen in 2011 will happen this year.
A January report by the Neighborhood Economic Development Advocacy Project in New York found that in the first half of 2011 the number of 90-day pre-foreclosure notices in New York City outnumbered court foreclosure actions by a ratio of 14 to one, indicating that while proceedings were initiated against many homeowners, they were left incomplete.
"Now the banks have a settlement, foreclosure numbers for 2012 are going to be high," said NEDAP co-director Josh Zinner.
A recent survey by the California Reinvestment Coalition, an umbrella group of nearly 300 non-profit groups in the state, of member agencies found 75 percent of respondents expected increased demand for their foreclosure prevention services in 2012 but more than a third had to scale back services because of funding cuts.
"Funding is a major concern given what our members expect for this year," said associate director Kevin Stein.
All this has non-profits intensifying calls for the Federal Housing Finance Agency to drop its opposition to allowing the government-backed mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac it regulates to reduce principal for underwater homeowners.
Principal reduction involves reducing the amount borrowers owe in order to make a loan modification affordable for struggling homeowners. Republicans and the FHFA oppose principal reduction because of the risk of "moral hazard"- that homeowners who do not need help will seek to abuse largesse and have their mortgages reduced too.
ESOP in Ohio engages in "hits" on Chase branches -- they say Chase is the least accommodating major bank when it comes to working with struggling homeowners -- where they try to hand letters to bank mangers calling on chief executive Jamie Dimon to lobby FHFA head Edward DeMarco for principal reductions. A Chase spokeswoman said the bank has made "extensive efforts" to work with homeowners, helping 775,000 borrowers stay in their homes since early 2009, avoiding foreclosure "more than twice as often as we have had to foreclose." Housing groups like ESOP maintain, as they have throughout the housing crisis, that unless the FHFA embraces widespread principal reduction, many more under water borrowers face losing their homes.
"Until banks engage in meaningful principal reduction as a matter of course," ESOP's Seifert said after a recent protest at a Chase branch in Cleveland, "this crisis will not end."
(Reporting By Nick Carey; Editing by Martin Howell and William Schomberg; Desking by Andrew Hay)
A o istom trošku, MIT istraživači predviđaju narednu veliku depresiju & kolaps civilizacije do 2030. godine:
Next Great Depression? MIT researchers predict 'global economic collapse' by 2030 (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/next-great-depression-mit-researchers-predict-global-economic-190352944.html)
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A new study from researchers at Jay W. Forrester's institute at MIT says that the world could suffer from "global economic collapse" and "precipitous population decline" if people continue to consume the world's resources at the current pace.
Smithsonian Magazine (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Looking-Back-on-the-Limits-of-Growth.html) writes that Australian physicist Graham Turner says "the world is on track for disaster" and that current evidence coincides with a famous, and in some quarters, infamous, academic report from 1972 entitled, "The Limits to Growth. (http://limits-to-growth.org/)"
Produced for a group called The Club of Rome (http://www.clubofrome.org/?p=326), the study's researchers created a computing model to forecast different scenarios based on the current models of population growth and global resource consumption. The study also took into account different levels of agricultural productivity, birth control and environmental protection efforts. Twelve million copies of the report were produced and distributed in 37 different languages.
Most of the computer scenarios found population and economic growth continuing at a steady rate until about 2030. But without "drastic measures for environmental protection," the scenarios predict the likelihood of a population and economic crash.
However, the study said "unlimited economic growth" is still possible if world governments enact policies and invest in green technologies that help limit the expansion of our ecological footprint.
The Smithsonian notes that several experts strongly objected to "The Limit of Growth's" findings, including the late Yale economist Henry Wallich, who for 12 years served as a governor of the Federal Research Board (http://articles.latimes.com/1988-09-17/news/mn-1824_1_henry-wallich) and was its chief international economics expert. At the time, Wallich said attempting to regulate economic growth would be equal to "consigning billions to permanent poverty."
Turner says that perhaps the most startling find from the study is that the results of the computer scenarios were nearly identical to those predicted in similar computer scenarios used as the basis for "The Limits to Growth."
"There is a very clear warning bell being rung here," Turner said. "We are not on a sustainable trajectory."
Biće skoro propast sveta (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ16Puo9A2Q#)
Eto, džaba trud. Mi to odavno znamo.
Moraju i ti na MITu da nekako zarade plate.
Razumem ja njih, ali zašto ti to radiš džaba, kad je Voki Kostić sve odavno objasnio?
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegrio.com%2Fassets_c%2F2012%2F03%2Fdont-re-nig-bumper-sticker-thumb-400xauto-32334.jpg&hash=40eb4333b9a63edcb05744880d0edff39c27ca2a)
QuoteA new study from researchers at Jay W. Forrester's institute at MIT says that the world could suffer from "global economic collapse" and "precipitous population decline" if people continue to consume the world's resources at the current pace.
Пре неки дан сам писао о томе. Који то људи троше ресурсе? То је питање. Кликћем по овим линковима, па видим спомиње се "birth control", па "Most scenarios resulted in an ongoing growth of population", где одмах затим иде "Only drastic measures for environmental protection", итд. Дакле, опет се провлачи исто, да је један од главних проблема пренасељеност. Као што сам већ спомињао, у свим документарцима о потрошњи ресурса, стално видимо црнце и Кинезе, ту и тамо неку недефинисану градску вреву. Па зато и питам, ко бре истроши то све?
Просте претраге по нету дају резултате:
Рецимо, нафта, извор - CIA:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2174rank.html (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2174rank.html)
Који је проценат укупне популације у државама на прва два места?
Или овакав неки податак, наводно извучен из књиге Population Bomb:
QuoteAmericans constitute 5% of the world's population but consume 24% of the world's energy.
On average, one American consumes as much energy as
2 Japanese
6 Mexicans
13 Chinese
31 Indians
128 Bangladeshis
307 Tanzanians
370 Ethiopians
Americans throw out 200,000 tons of edible food daily.
EEE sve je to počela pre jedno 300 godina, a vrv i ranije, nabavite knjigu Veritas ili skoknite do knjižare neke i pročitajte samo kraj knjige tj Beleške, mnoge stvari će vam biti jasnije. Od nameštanja vladara u državama, stvaranje papirnog novca, vakcinacije.....
Šta vakcinacije? Ne nabacuj tako insinuacije bez potrebnih detalja. Nije lepo, a nije ni ljudski.
Zna se ko ugrožava resurse. Onaj ko je spreman da uništi svet da bi ih se domogao. :mrgreen:
Malo mi je komplikovano da sve objasnim ovako kucajući, možda nešto zaboravim, pa sam reko da skoknete do knjižare i pročitate, ima dvadesetak strana.
Al evo malo da zagolicam, radi se o Velikim Boginjama,
" Od uvođenja potkožnog cepljenja do kraja 18 veka u Evropi je od velikih boginja umrlo šezdeset miliona ljudi" pa ima spisak po državama koliko je ljudi umiralo "A koliko je ljudi umiralo od velikih boginja pre nego što je uvedeno cepljenje? Evo, na primer, podatak za London: trideset osmoro umrlih 1666, šezdesetoro 1684, i osamdeset dvoje 1636. Ukratko, skoro niko."
Imajući u vidu podatak da danas niko ne umire od velikih boginja, meni nikakva zavera ne pada na um, niti mi je mašta ikako zagolicana.
Ne treba ti mašta. Čovek kaže da je potkožno cepljenje bilo pogrešno.
Šta su posledice sa i bez, i koja je alternativa?
Oćeš studiju ili da ostavim da se sam domisliš?
Evo šta ja mislim. Da nemamo vakcinacije sad bi svetom harale ne samo razne boginje, nego i razne druge boleštine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination_schedule). Stvarno nemam predstavu šta bi mogla biti alternativa vakcinaciji.
Quote from: mac on 05-04-2012, 16:53:56
Stvarno nemam predstavu šta bi mogla biti alternativa vakcinaciji.
barbarstvo.
Eto, rešio ti problem. Što bih ja tebi objašnjavao da je čovek čitirao Veritas i događaje od pre trista i kusur godina? Ti ćeš to da podesiš prema sebi i da tvrdiš nešto sasvim drugo što niko nije dovodio u pitanje.
Sad se i ja čudim, boginje (posebno variola vera) su uobičajeno citirane kao jedna od najsmrtonosnijih zaraza koje su mučile čovečanstvo pre uvođenja vakcijacije. Naprosto mi je neverovatno da slušam da je smrtnost bila izuzetno mala pre vakcinacije. Voelo bih da vidim neke uverljive izvore za ovo jer brza pretraga nasumice daje samo tvrdnje da je smrtnost bila izuzetno visoka pre vakcinacije.
Plus, prve vakcinacije su počele tek pred kraj 18 veka. A smrtnost je tokom druge polovine tog veka bila oko 400,000 ljudi (u Evropi) godišnje (http://www.jyi.org/volumes/volume6/issue3/features/bourzac.html). Mislim, ništa mi se tu baš ne slaže.
nebuloze. vec su stari egipcani masovno umirali od velikih boginja a u europi bijase jos od uvoza putem rimljana gore od kuge. kaze loni.
Ja ovako laički i mislim da su bile gore od kuge jer je duži period inkubacije i bolesti pre nego što pacijent umre pa je i mogućnost širenja veća.
da, ja citiram njemacki izvor. pise da je odnijela daleko vise ljudi od kuge, vise od 10% djece srednjeg vijeka prije navrsene 10. godine umiralo je zbog tog virusa. zadnji slucaj u nj. zabiljezen 1972., unesen sa kosova.
ima i clanak o razvoju cjepiva, uglavnom djelotvornog od 1771. a u kini i indiji postoje razni nacini imunizacije navodno vec ca. 3000 godina.
Da, to sve sam i ja video na engleskom...
prepisali su od nijemaca...
sve je prepisano od nemaca. berlin!!!!
sad nemam vremena da pisem naveliko, ali da nije bilo edwarda jennera, ne bi bilo ni današnje imunologije.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Jenner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Jenner)
Quote from: lilit_depp on 05-04-2012, 19:01:03
sad nemam vremena da pisem naveliko, ali da nije bilo edwarda jennera, ne bi bilo ni današnje imunologije.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Jenner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Jenner)
drugim rečima, da nije bilo njega, ne bi se ni ti sad švrćkala po belom svetu!
koji tip. pise da je zarazio djete nekim kravljim boginjama, te nakon toga pravim i utvrdio da je djete - prezivjelo!
very english.
Nego, evo kako ne valja ni da dobijete veliki bakšiš:
Minnesota Waitress Sues After Police Seize $12,000 'Tip' (http://news.yahoo.com/minnesota-waitress-sues-police-seize-12-000-tip-212757225--abc-news-topstories.html)
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Stacy Knutson, a struggling Minnesota waitress and mother of five, says she was searching for a "miracle" to help her family with financial problems.
But that "miracle" quickly came and went after police seized a $12,000 tip that was left at her table. Knutson filed a lawsuit in Clay County District Court stating that the money is rightfully hers. Police argue it is drug money.
Knutson was working at the Fryn' Pan in Moorhead, Minn., when, according to her attorney, Craig Richie, a woman left a to-go box from another restaurant on the table. Knutson followed the woman to her car to return the box to her.
"No I am good, you keep it," the woman said, according to the lawsuit.
Knutson did not know the woman and has not seen her since, Richie said. Knutson thought it was "strange" that the woman told her to keep it but she took it inside. The box felt too heavy to be leftovers, Ritchie said, so she opened it -- only to find bundles of cash wrapped in rubber bands.
[Related: Firefighters donate lottery winnings to ailing colleague (http://yhoo.it/HPYgmL%20)]
"Even though I desperately needed the money as my husband and I have five children, I feel I did the right thing by calling the Moorhead Police," Knutson said in the lawsuit.
Police seized the money and originally told Knutson that if no one claimed it after 60 days, it was hers. She was later told 90 days, Richie said. When 90 days passed, Knutson was still without the $12,000.
Police told Knutson the money was being held as "drug money" and she would receive a $1,000 reward instead, the lawsuit states. Lt. Tory Jacobson of the Moorhead police said he could not disclose much information about the case because it is an ongoing investigation.
"With turning this money over to us, we initiated an investigation to determine whose money this is," Jacobson told ABC News. "The result has been a narcotics investigation."
Police argue that the money had a strong odor of marijuana and therefore falls under a law that allows for forfeiture of the money because it was in the proximity of a controlled substance, the lawsuit states. But there were no drugs in the box and Richie said he believes this law is not being used correctly.
[Related: What happens to seized "drug money"? (http://yhoo.it/HwOmQg%20)]
"Because it was in contact with drugs somewhere along the line, it's somehow drug money," Richie said. "This isn't drug money."
A police dog also performed a sniff test on the money and, according to the dog's handler, discovered an odor.
Two of Knutson's co-workers, along with her son Brandon, were at the Fryn' Pan the night she discovered the money. Her co-workers say they did not smell marijuana.
"I know the smell of marijuana," Nickolas Fronning, a line cook at the Fryn' Pan, said in an affidavit. "I can also assure you that there was no smell of marijuana on the bills or coming from the box."
There was nothing suspicious in the restaurant when the money was found, co-workers said. They don't why it was given to Knutson.
"She was just in the right place at the right time," Tracy Johnson, the assistant manager at the Fryn' Pan, told ABC News.
Knutson's family has had a long financial struggle. She has been a waitress at the Fryn' Pan for 18 years.
"We do everything we can to make ends meet, but often times everything is not covered," she said in the lawsuit.
Knutson's financial woes are well-known in her church, Richie said. She believes that perhaps someone from the church gave her the money through this woman but did not want to be identified.
"Somebody knew she really needed the money and she needed to be helped," Richie said.
Jacobson says it is up to the judge to decide who the money rightfully belongs to.
"The police department doesn't have a decision on either side," Jacobson said. "She did the right thing, we credit her with that. It's certainly not the police department against her. We're actually with her."
But Richie said he firmly believes this is not drug money and it rightfully belongs to Knutson.
"The only thing that smells bad about this is that it's unfair," Richie said. "So that's why we're doing something about it."
ova džukela u srbiji ne bi dobila ni mesec dana zatvora, a kamoli 10 godina - ili bi?
zna li neko za slučaj apse kod nas za ovakvu vrstu svinjoguzije?
Craigslist Dog Killer Sentenced
http://news.petpardons.com/free-to-a-good-home-craigslist-dog-killer-sentenced-in-west-virginia/ (http://news.petpardons.com/free-to-a-good-home-craigslist-dog-killer-sentenced-in-west-virginia/)
Ubijanje i mučenje životinja/Član 269
(1) Ko kršeći propise ubije, povredi ili muči životinju, kazniće se novčanom kaznom ili zatvorom do šest meseci.
(2) Ako je usled dela iz stava 1. ovog člana došlo do ubijanja, mučenja ili povređivanja većeg broja životinja, ili je delo učinjeno u odnosu na životinju koja pripada posebno zaštićenim životinjskim vrstama, učinilac će se kazniti novčanom kaznom ili zatvorom do tri godine.
http://www.nezavisni-aktivisti.bravehost.com/zakoni_i_propisi.html (http://www.nezavisni-aktivisti.bravehost.com/zakoni_i_propisi.html)
Nisam čuo da je neko fasovao robiju...
Zato sam lepo reko da odete do knjižare i pročitate sami, knjiga nije puko špekulisanje i napisana je veoma ozbiljno sve u njoj je istina, jer su pisci kopali po arhivima, bibliotekama i koristili su preko 350 izvora, svi popisani na kraju knjige.
U Kini se jeste koristila imunizacija ali ne tako što se potkožno unosio virus boginja, nego inhalacijom, tj prirodnim putem, problem je nastao u evropi kad se cepivo krenulo unositi kroz krv. Razlika u simptomima je velika kad se normalno razboliš od boginja, a drugačiji kad se putem krvi unese virus.
PS Na internetu i nećete naći tako neke podatke, jer zavera je krenula pre 300 godina, i oni koji je održavaju i idalje zarađuju na njoj, paze kakve informacije kruže netom. Koga zanima knjigu u ruke, ne budite lenji.
Uz dužno poštovanje:
Svi akademski izvori u slobodnoj cirkulaciji - dakle, podložni stalnim kritikama i revizijama od strane nezavisnih kritičara i revizionista i proverljivi od strane svakoga ko proveru želi da izvrši - svi oni tvrde jedno a jedna knjiga koja je A) beletristika i B) napisali su je jedna filološkinja i teoretičar muzike, tvrdi drugo i mi bi trebalo da sad odjednom verujemo kako su njih dvoje otkrili neverovatno dobro čuvanu zaveru koju nisu razotkrile hiljade naučnika i akademskih radnika (jer su potplaćeni? zastrašeni? zombiji?). I ti nam to ozbiljno govoriš?
Meho, baš si zlotvor. Ne daš nam da iz spekulacija izvlačimo istinu. I to na sajtu fantastike. Nije čudo što ne verujemo da smo iz čiste beslovesnosti onih koji vode ovaj svet zaglavili tu gde smo zaglavili. Sirotinja raja samo traži smisao u tome, jer je verovatnija umna zavera od totalne gluposti. Mel Gibson je na našoj strani. :mrgreen:
Ma, meni su teorije zavere supersimpatične, ali moramo ih staviti u kontekst razbibrige i psihosocijalne podrške.
Kad su u pitanju teorije zavere o vakcinaciji, one mogu imati izuzetno štetne posledice kad npr. naivni roditelji počnu da brane vakcinaciju svoje dece od (popuniti po želji).
EDIT: na primer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMR_vaccine_controversy)
Alo, bre! Ja namerno trpam u spekulaciju, a vi se ložite u odbranu nečega što se ne može odbraniti. Hajd, odbranite mi najnoviju zaveru sa vakcinom protiv ptičjeg gripa. Sve se dogodilo samo da bi farmaceustka industrija imala "dobar i profitabilan" proizvod. Ili, namerno spuštanje dozvoljenih vrednosti za holesterol i trigliceride, da bismo se osećali ugroženim i kupovali lekove koji nas ne leče. Ili, varijante suplemenata kalcijuma, magnezijuma i ostalih "neophodnih" supstanci, e da bismo preživeli, koje uredno pokakimo onako kako smo ih progutali. Budući da se govori o prošlosti, kako tumačite silne trejdere i pedlere sa njihovim "čarobnim" vodicama na Divljem i ne-tako-Divljem Zapadu. Ako nas farbaju k'o jajca za Uskrs u tom domenu, kako da nas ne farbaju za nešto veće? Veći igrači, veči farbači. Živeo Mel Gibson! :mrgreen:
sad se osjecam kao gorila kad su spaceballsi sletjeli na forum majmuna.
plus, svuda piše da je (i zbog čega je) intradermalna imunizacija, tj. "potkožna vakcinacija" praktično zabranjena danas (u ovom slučaju).
(ubacili se razni :lol: )
Ja ozbiljno govorim a vi kako oćete. Lepo sam reko da neću da počinjem da pročitate sami, ne morate celu knjigu nego samo beleške na kraju.
Jel ste se vakcinisali protiv svinjskog gripa?
Ne. Svake se godine vakcinišem na redovne trenutno aktuelne sorte, i kada je došlo vreme pitao sam lekara treba li i protiv svinje, i lekar je rekao da ne treba, i to je bilo to.
Moje dete je vakcinisano po propisu, naravno, ali ipak me je zabrinula priča komšije defektologa, koji radi u školi za gluvu decu, i nije vakcinisao svoju decu ni od čega tvrdeći da su te bolesti odavno iskorenjene a da je većina one gluve ili zaostale dece koju podučava obolela upravo posle vakcinacije. Ne kažem da je u pravu, ali ne mogu reći ni da je lud ili tako nešto, pošto je inače sasvim simpatičan tip i nije ovo ni pričao da bi ikog drugog ubedio da ne vakciniše decu, nego je slučajno iskrslo u razgovoru. Juče sam pak srela druga iz gimanzije, radi kao doktor, ali decu leči isključivo homeopatijom, tvrdeći da će im antibiotici i ostalo naneti više štete nego koristi. Ni njega ne podržavam, jer se ne razumem ni u medicinu i moje dete leči pedijatar, a ne ja, samo kažem da pristalica teorija zavere (ako su teorije zavere) ima i među ljudima od kojih se to ne očekuje.
Quote from: Dacko on 06-04-2012, 15:38:58
radi kao doktor, ali decu leči isključivo homeopatijom
Dakle ne radi kao doktor. :mrgreen:
Da citiram Tima Minčina: You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? Medicine.
Radi kao doktor u hitnoj pomoći, a svoje dvoje dece leči homeopatijom, tj. ne lično on, nego ih vodi nekome ko se samo time bavi. Izvinjavam se što sam bila neprecizna, mislila sam da taj drug nije ni bitan za priču sem kao ilustracija da i među ljudima koji su diplomirali medicinu ima sumnjala u savremena medicinska dostignuća.
Ma, dobro, niko ovde ne tvrdi da su vakcine od zlata i da su bezopasne i da ih treba servirati uz užinu djeci u obdaništu svakog prepodneva. Valjda je jasno da je vakcina sistemsko rešenje za sistemski problem koje i samo donosi (manje) probleme. Ali, najgrublje rečeno, jedno gluvo dete na hiljadu je prihvatljiva statistika u odnosu na recimo pedesetoro mrtvih na hiljadu kada ne bismo imali vakcinu. Ja sam bio među poslednjim generacijama (ako ne i poslednja) koja je primila vakcinu protiv velikih boginja i bio sam onaj proverbijani jedan od hiljadu (što i jeste neka statistika za VV vakcinu) koji ima tako jaku reakciju da može d'umre. Nisam umro (al sam se trudio) a da jesam sigurno moja majka ne bi bila srećna. Ali zahvaljujući vakcinisanju, ta je bolest iskorenjena i vakcinisanje od nje je prestalo par godina kasnije. Dakle, da, rizici od vakcina svakako postoje, ali da ih nema, rizici od bolesti bi bili daleko veći. Mislio sam da je to jasno.
Ono što je meni bizaran detalj u Barbarinovoj priči je tvrdnja da je pre početka vakcinisanja u Evropi smrtnost od velikih boginja bila izuzetno mala a da je posle sa vakcinacijom skočila, kada svi dostupni izvori tvrde potpuno suprotno.
kad ovako pričaš, skoro bismo ti i poverovali!!! ali mora da postoji neka zavera s tim vakcinama, ipak!
Ma ja ne tvrdim da je nema, nego ako je ima verovatno nije ovako mikimausovski prosta kako Barbarin tvrdi.
Evo i nje! De si da pomogneš? Razumno je da slušamo doktore, ja ih imam na gomile naokolo. Ali, kad gledam kako oni gledaju na lečenje, onda me malo fata stra'.
Dacko, ja sam imao ženu u trudnoći za vreme velikih boginja kod nas. Trebalo se suočiti sa tim i sa gamaglobulinom kao jedinom pomoći. Sve je razumljivo kad se nekom drugom događa. Posebno ako su ti isti doktori prepadnuti od terapije koju propisuju.
ako je ima, onda jeste pre mikimausovska nego kompleksna.
btw, na kom nivou bi radila? mislim, zar ne bi bilo lakse pristupiti skrljavanju covecanstva na nekom drugom nivou? pa čak i kad ideš ciljano?
scallope,
ne mogu bez sagite, to je valjda očigledno. lepo jutro, toplo, pijem kafu i palamudim na sabahu. :)
a i ovde se slažem s tobom. ja sam za balans...slobodna volja za vakcinisanje protov neletalnih bolesti, zatvor za nevakinisanje dece protiv recimo tetanusa. :lol:
btw, svinjski grip, tj. h1n1 je komponenta "normalne" vakcine protiv gripa ove godine.
Quote from: lilit_depp on 06-04-2012, 16:22:52
scallope,
ne mogu bez sagite, to je valjda očigledno. lepo jutro, toplo, pijem kafu i palamudim na sabahu. :)
a i ovde se slažem s tobom. ja sam za balans...slobodna volja za vakcinisanje protov neletalnih bolesti, zatvor za nevakinisanje dece protiv recimo tetanusa. :lol:
Eh, da si mobilna pa da odeš u Tulsu, da dimiš slaninu sa Jelenom. Našla slaninu, našla neki vojvođanski recept i, eno, pućka kraj barbekjua. :lol:
Eh, ja bih rado, al vreme je prekratko. Iako, sledeće godine ima odličan kongres u Ostinu, to je bliže Tulsi. :)
@scallop: za vreme velikih boginja kod nas je i Svetlana Bojković bila trudna, majka mi je pričala kako su njih dve svuda išle u potragu za gamaglobulinom (majka je tu bila da joj pravi društvo, kao nekadašnja školska drugarica :lol: ), i da je baš bilo teško da se nađe.
Jebiga, Tulsi je blizu samo Sapalpa. :-x
Quote from: lilit_depp on 06-04-2012, 16:22:52
ako je ima, onda jeste pre mikimausovska nego kompleksna.
btw, na kom nivou bi radila? mislim, zar ne bi bilo lakse pristupiti skrljavanju covecanstva na nekom drugom nivou? pa čak i kad ideš ciljano?
Kao nemaštovit čovek ja pre mislim da bi zavera bila namerna da ostvari profit nego da istrebi crnce, pse, Srbe i Židove.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 06-04-2012, 16:53:24
Kao nemaštovit čovek ja pre mislim da bi zavera bila namerna da ostvari profit nego da istrebi crnce, pse, Srbe i Židove.
Ko je rekao nešto drugo? I istrebljivanje je u funkciji nekog profita, samo istrebljeni ne saznaju kojeg. Ni Hitler nije mrzeo Jevreje, ali je voleo njihove pare.
Hitler! Kraj rasprave!
sta god da je hitler hteo, skrljao je nemacku na duze staze. eh, da nije bilo WWII...gde bi sad bila nemacka. jos cu poceti da verujem u teorije zavere: svetska kriza kreirana samo da bi usa preuzela nemacke ljudske i ostale resurse. :lol:
Quote from: mac on 06-04-2012, 17:04:43
Hitler! Kraj rasprave!
Ne seri. Kraj rasprave.
Pa izvinte a gde je nemačka sad, ja nešto ne vidim da je u krizi, šta joj fali osim Marke.
Sve ovo oko vakcine i jeste dublje, a ne samo da se potamani neki broj ljudi, jel da bi primio tu vakcinu moraš da je platiš, jel, pa onda još drugi troškovi oko oporavka, pa ako umreš, sarana i ostalo. Ovi koji to rade ne rade to tako da bi se obogatili preko noći, oni već imaju dovoljno para, nego eto zato što im se može.
A SVK je nastala u istom tom periodu, kada su u Francuskoj počele da se štampaju papirni novci i kad su oni zamenili zlato i srebro u trgovini, sve lepo piše u knjizi, koja je potrkrepljena da 350 izvora, neki od tih izvora nikad nisu ni štampani, znači kao rukopisi, doktorske disertacije itd. A kakve veze ima šta su ljudi završili i čime se bave. Bay the way pokušavaju i da pokrenu neka istraživanja u sadašnjosti ali bivaju sprečeni.
I spočetka knjige
Napomena autora
"Koliko god delovali čudno, mesta, ličnosti i događaji o kojima govori ova knjiga NISU plod mašte, već potiču iz originalnih izvora. Molimo dobronamernog čitaoca da pogleda napomene na kraju romana i priloženu bibliografiju svaki put kad posumlja u verodostojnost onoga što čita. Tamo će pronaći dokumentovane dokaze. Najviše nas zabavlja kada u arhivima iskopamo hirove istorije koji bi, da nisu istiniti, delovalo neverovatno."
http://www.attomelani.net/wp-content/fiera_francoforte/video_full.wmv (http://www.attomelani.net/wp-content/fiera_francoforte/video_full.wmv)
Pa, sad, neki bi te i za Protokole Sionskih mudraca uveravali da tu treba verovati u svaku reč i da je to sve verodostojno i potkrepljeno brojnim izvorima.
Jesi li proverio te njihove navodne izvore?
Pa kad bih imao para i vremena da prekopavam bečke i rimske biblioteke i pored toga znao latinski, italijanski i nemački, i sva pisma i varijante tih jezika možda bi i išao i proveravao.
Čekaj malo, zar još uvek postoji neka osoba koja naivno veruje da "Protokoli Sionskih mudraca" nisu verodostojni?!
Quote from: Barbarin on 06-04-2012, 20:15:21
Pa izvinte a gde je nemačka sad, ja nešto ne vidim da je u krizi, šta joj fali osim Marke.
Ne samo da nije u krizi već tri godine za redom beleži rast ionako jake ekonomije.
Samo u prvom kvartalu ove godine ima rast od 2,3 % u odnosu na prvi kvartal prošle godine.
Odlične rezultate imaju i Austrija i Švedska.
Kriza - uzdanica mnogih zagovorenika komunizma, definitivno prolazi. Bar na severu.
Quote from: scallop on 06-04-2012, 16:57:24
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 06-04-2012, 16:53:24
Kao nemaštovit čovek ja pre mislim da bi zavera bila namerna da ostvari profit nego da istrebi crnce, pse, Srbe i Židove.
Ko je rekao nešto drugo? I istrebljivanje je u funkciji nekog profita, samo istrebljeni ne saznaju kojeg. Ni Hitler nije mrzeo Jevreje židova, ali je voleo njihove njegove pare.
hitler se prevrce u grobu.
Quote from: Barbarin on 06-04-2012, 20:42:00
Pa kad bih imao para i vremena da prekopavam bečke i rimske biblioteke i pored toga znao latinski, italijanski i nemački, i sva pisma i varijante tih jezika možda bi i išao i proveravao.
Nezgodno, večito ti neki opskurni dokumenti koje ne možeš da proveriš. Pogledala sam malo knjigu na Laguni, liči mi na Da Vinčijev kod.
Nego, da li bi možda želeo da kupiš Ajfelov toranj? Cijena sitnica. :mrgreen:
Quote from: Barbarin on 06-04-2012, 15:28:05
Ja ozbiljno govorim a vi kako oćete. Lepo sam reko da neću da počinjem da pročitate sami, ne morate celu knjigu nego samo beleške na kraju.
...
neki austrijanac recenzent napisase kako je odustao od citanja nakon pedesetak stranica. veli nije izdrzao kad je narator u 18. stoljecu nabrojio devet austrijskih pokrajina, cak i onu koja se desila 1921.
sve to nakon sto je procitao uvod koji hvali temeljito istrazivanje i povijestnu ispravnost.
ali sto ocekivati od talijanskog bracnog para u samoizganstvu. vrhunski muljatori.
Da Vinčijev kod je smešan, digla se oko njega neka halabuka, a ono što je Braun napisao Eko je to pre njega odavno uradio pa se nikakva pomama nije izbila.
Ove tri knjige su nešto sasvim drugo i jedva čekam sledeće dve :lol:
A onaj ko propagira krizu, taj najviše i zarađuje xwink2
Smešniji si od mene kuga
smjesniji, mozda, ali gluplji tesko pa i nemoguce.
Quote from: Barbarin on 06-04-2012, 20:15:21
Pa izvinte a gde je nemačka sad, ja nešto ne vidim da je u krizi, šta joj fali osim Marke.
Sve ovo oko vakcine i jeste dublje, a ne samo da se potamani neki broj ljudi, jel da bi primio tu vakcinu moraš da je platiš, jel, pa onda još drugi troškovi oko oporavka, pa ako umreš, sarana i ostalo. Ovi koji to rade ne rade to tako da bi se obogatili preko noći, oni već imaju dovoljno para, nego eto zato što im se može.
A SVK je nastala u istom tom periodu, kada su u Francuskoj počele da se štampaju papirni novci i kad su oni zamenili zlato i srebro u trgovini, sve lepo piše u knjizi, koja je potrkrepljena da 350 izvora, neki od tih izvora nikad nisu ni štampani, znači kao rukopisi, doktorske disertacije itd. A kakve veze ima šta su ljudi završili i čime se bave. Bay the way pokušavaju i da pokrenu neka istraživanja u sadašnjosti ali bivaju sprečeni.
I spočetka knjige
Napomena autora
"Koliko god delovali čudno, mesta, ličnosti i događaji o kojima govori ova knjiga NISU plod mašte, već potiču iz originalnih izvora. Molimo dobronamernog čitaoca da pogleda napomene na kraju romana i priloženu bibliografiju svaki put kad posumlja u verodostojnost onoga što čita. Tamo će pronaći dokumentovane dokaze. Najviše nas zabavlja kada u arhivima iskopamo hirove istorije koji bi, da nisu istiniti, delovalo neverovatno."
http://www.attomelani.net/wp-content/fiera_francoforte/video_full.wmv (http://www.attomelani.net/wp-content/fiera_francoforte/video_full.wmv)
Joj, Barbarine... Znam da je nisko da spočitavam pravopisne greške nekome ko piše na forumu (kad ih već i ja obilato pravim) ali teško je ozbiljno shvatiti sve ovo kad pišeš "jel da bi primio tu vakcinu moraš da je platiš", "posumlja" itd. a rad si da podučiš druge ezoteričnom znanju skrivanom tri veka od javnosti u neobjavljenim doktorskim disertacijama, koje su otkrila dva pisca petparačke proze, a mračna zavera protiv čovečanstva se da objasniti motivom "eto zato što im se može".
I, dobro, Skalop je pomenuo Hitlera, kraj rasprave.
Ti si prvi pomenuo progon Jevreja. Da, i Roma i kerova.
Pa valjda je shvaćeno da je to bila šala i aluzija na lažno objašnjenje na hrvatskom izdanju drugog albuma Nirvane da nije za pse, Srbe i Židove?
I ja sam, odmah na početku, jasno napisao da je u pitanju spekulativna literatura, a ti si nastavio ozbiljno, pa na kraju optužio Barbarina za nepismenost. A on učestvuje na topiku o čitanju, a ti ne učestvuješ. Mogao bi jednom, za promenu, da ne teraš kera da lipše.
Pa i sebe sam optužio za nepismenost. A on se, reklo bi se, ozbiljno drži ove knjige kao validnog (pseudo)naučnog rada pa su moji komentari odmereni po tome.
I zaboga, kako da ja učestvujem na topiku o čitanju kada ne čitam?
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 06-04-2012, 23:44:08
I zaboga, kako da ja učestvujem na topiku o čitanju kada ne čitam?
Pa neces da nas ponizis osvajanjem 4 uzastopna grand slema :)
vi ste potpun oftopik oftopika!
kako god, nemački vozovi su mllion puta bolji od američkih.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 06-04-2012, 23:44:08
Pa i sebe sam optužio za nepismenost.
To ti je vrlo izvitopereno poimanje tolerancije.
Koloseci vaseg nerazumevanja svakim danom postaju sve nerazumljiviji.
@ lilit - vozovi ili metro?
Nisam nikog pokušao da ubedjujem, samo sam naveo šta sam pročitao i šta mi je zanimljivo i moguće. Knjiga jeste pisana kao beletristika, ali ja nigde nisam govorio o njemu nego o dodatku na kraju iz koga je i nastao roman.
Roman je izašao pre 6 godina, ko oće nek traži kritiku koju Kuga spominje dosad je bilo vremena da je neko napiše, ja trenutno nemam vremena sutra putujem na mesto bez interneta, a kad se vratim za 8 dana potražiću i sam. :lol:
Quote from: scallop on 06-04-2012, 23:53:01
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 06-04-2012, 23:44:08
Pa i sebe sam optužio za nepismenost.
To ti je vrlo izvitopereno poimanje tolerancije.
Nisam se bavio toliko tolerancijom koliko uvazavanjem. Ali sam i rekao sta mislim da ne valja. Ako sam bio uvredljiv, drzak i napadan, iskoristio bih priliku da se izvinim.
Quote from: Melkor on 07-04-2012, 00:00:11
Koloseci vaseg nerazumevanja svakim danom postaju sve nerazumljiviji.
@ lilit - vozovi ili metro?
kad kažem nemački, mislim austrijski. :)
i metro, i busevi, i vozovi i avioni. sad sam u amtraku, voz je kao onaj beograd-bar.
nije lose, daleko od toga da pljujem, i nije da sam iznenadjena ili se iscudjavam vec prosto - utisak.
Lillit, vozovi (šinska vozila) u SAD su drugorazredno prevozno sredstvo. Zato tako i izgledaju. Autobusi su trećerazredno, ali radije njih koriste, jer imaju točkove sa gumama. :mrgreen:
Meho, meni se ne treba izvinjavati. Jedino, kad bismo svakom na ovom forumu u ime "istine" razbijali uverenje, malo bi preteklo.
Pa, izvinjavam se potencijalno povređenoj stranci, valjda je to jasno!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ma nema potrebe, vec sam navikao da ljudi pisu "srbi" i "židovi" velikim slovom. skoro ni ne primjecujem vise.
Quote from: scallop on 07-04-2012, 00:51:38
Lillit, vozovi (šinska vozila) u SAD su drugorazredno prevozno sredstvo. Zato tako i izgledaju. Autobusi su trećerazredno, ali radije njih koriste, jer imaju točkove sa gumama. :mrgreen:
Meho, meni se ne treba izvinjavati. Jedino, kad bismo svakom na ovom forumu u ime "istine" razbijali uverenje, malo bi preteklo.
ma jasno, ali je u sukobu s mojim levicarskim nazorima. jos bitnije, da bi stigao do filadelfije, moras preci menhetn kolima a to je sumanuto gubljenje vremena. :mrgreen:
naravno da je mehmet nepismen, on i imena dana u nedelji pise velikim slovom!!!!! sramota!
Vidiš, sve će uraditi protiv levičara! Pa, onda reci da nema zavere. Nama desničarima koji vozimo je lako. Na sever do Port Jervisa, pa preplivamo Delaware do Milforda. To je šifra: na zgodnim mestima uvek postoji neki Milford, kao čaj u kesicama. Posle, niz autokartu je lako do Filadelfije.
Quote from: kralj Kuga on 07-04-2012, 10:22:21
ma nema potrebe, vec sam navikao da ljudi pisu "srbi" i "židovi" velikim slovom. skoro ni ne primjecujem vise.
:!: :!: :!:
Quote from: lilit_depp on 07-04-2012, 10:48:42
... naravno da je mehmet nepismen, on i imena dana u nedelji pise velikim slovom!!!!! sramota!
dane je stvorio alah! ostalo spomenuto vrag.
Zosko je u formi. :lol: :lol:
Evo u to ime:
Dzukele Amerika (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtthxziaJh8#)
E, bubnjar u Džukelama na ovom CD-u je bio moj brat Vlado.
Nema veze sa propasti Amerike, ali me podseti.
daleko je propast...na zalost il na srecu, ko bi ga znao. :)
u to ime:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cR6LXjJ7k6o (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cR6LXjJ7k6o)
:lol: :lol:
Quote from: lilit_depp on 08-04-2012, 19:31:18
daleko je propast...na zalost il na srecu, ko bi ga znao. :)
to ce se vidjeti sljedeci tjedan s obzirom da sam long a prekjuce objavljeni katastrofalni brojevi novonastalih radnih mjesta u usa. spasava me samo eventualni porast fantazije o qe3. neka idu k vragu ti ameri, bas su se ulijenili.
Study: Obama's health care law would raise deficit (http://news.yahoo.com/study-obamas-health-care-law-raise-deficit-025042189.html)
QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — Reigniting a debate about the bottom line for President Barack Obama's health care law, a leading conservative economist estimates in a study to be released Tuesday that the overhaul will add at least $340 billion to the deficit, not reduce it.
Charles Blahous, who serves as public trustee overseeing Medicare and Social Security finances, also suggested that federal accounting practices have obscured the true fiscal impact of the legislation, the fate of which is now in the hands of the Supreme Court.
Officially, the health care law is still projected to help reduce government red ink. The Congressional Budget Office, the government's nonpartisan fiscal umpire, said in an estimate last year that repealing the law actually would increase deficits by $210 billion from 2012 to 2021.
The CBO, however, has not updated that projection. If $210 billion sounds like a big cushion, it's not. The government has recently been running annual deficits in the $1 trillion range.
The White house dismissed the study in a statement late Monday. Presidential assistant Jeanne Lambrew called the study "new math (that) fits the old pattern of mischaracterizations" about the health care law.
Blahous, in his 52-page analysis released by George Mason University's Mercatus Center, said, "Taken as a whole, the enactment of the (health care law) has substantially worsened a dire federal fiscal outlook.
"The (law) both increases a federal commitment to health care spending that was already unsustainable under prior law and would exacerbate projected federal deficits relative to prior law," Blahous said.
The law expands health insurance coverage to more than 30 million people now uninsured, paying for it with a mix of Medicare cuts and new taxes and fees.
Blahous cited a number of factors for his conclusion:
— The health care's law deficit cushion has been reduced by more than $80 billion because of the administration's decision not to move forward with a new long-term care insurance program that was part of the legislation. The Community Living Assistance Services and Supports program raised money in the short term, but would have turned into a fiscal drain over the years.
— The cost of health insurance subsidies for millions of low-income and middle-class uninsured people could turn out to be higher than forecast, particularly if employers scale back their own coverage.
— Various cost-control measures, including a tax on high-end insurance plans that doesn't kick in until 2018, could deliver less than expected.
The decision to use Medicare cuts to finance the expansion of coverage for the uninsured will only make matters worse, Blahous said. The money from the Medicare savings will have been spent, and lawmakers will have to find additional cuts or revenues to forestall that program's insolvency.
Under federal accounting rules, the Medicare cuts are also credited as savings to that program's trust fund. But the CBO and Medicare's own economic estimators already said the government can't spend the same money twice.
Blahous served in the George W. Bush White House from 2001-2009, rising to deputy director of the National Economic Council. He currently is a senior research fellow at the Mercatus Center.
His study was first reported late Monday by The Washington Post.
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Bil Kozbi spiks da trut:
Bill Cosby on George Zimmerman: Guns, not race, real issue in Trayvon Martin case (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/cosby-george-zimmerman-guns-not-race-real-issue-184628189.html)
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Bill Cosby, the latest in a string of celebrities asked to publicly weigh in on the Trayvon Martin case (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/mike-tyson-sex-drugs-trayvon-martin-222803402.html), said the biggest issue in the 17-year-old's killing at the hands of 28-year-old neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman is not race--it's guns.
"I believe that when you tell me that you're going to protect the neighborhood that I live in, I don't want you to have a gun," Cosby, 74, said in an interview with CNN's "State of the Union" broadcast on Sunday (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2012/04/15/exp-sotu-bill-cosby-part-2.cnn). "I want you to be able to see something, report it, and get out of the way, because you happen to be a part of the neighborhood. I don't want you to get hurt. And I don't want you to hurt anyone."
Via CNN's transcript:
Candy Crowley: So you saw more a gun issue than a race issue?
Cosby: How are you going to solve a race issue when it becomes he said, she said or he said, he said? And the other question is, what is solved by saying he's a racist that's why he shot the boy? What solves that? This. [Makes gun symbol with hand] And what is he doing with it? And who taught him and told him how to behave with this? It doesn't make any difference if he's a racist or not racist. If he's scared to death and not a racist, it's still a confrontational provoking of something.
I don't know what happened, but I know that this -- I used to have a gun. The policeman who okayed it said to me, "Mr. Cosby, when you pull this trigger, you can't call it back." And so I had the gun in my pocket. And the reason why I had it was to protect my family. But I also knew that anything that went on outside--and it appeared to be something that wasn't on the OK, I went out with my gun. And the thought was if this person is not right or if that doesn't move when I say move, I'm going to show that I have a gun.
Cosby's comments about the case were just a bit more nuanced than those of fellow comedian Bill Maher, who used the shooting as fodder for his "Real Time" monologue on Friday.
"Can tell it's a crazy crowd tonight because it's raining out there and also it's Friday the 13th," Maher said. "Remember: If a black cat crosses your path, it is bad luck--except in Florida where you're allowed to shoot it."
Last week, Mike Tyson told Yahoo News that he would be in favor of vigilante justice against Zimmerman (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/mike-tyson-trayvon-martin-case-disgrace-george-zimmerman-221115400.html).
"That's the only kind of retribution that people like that understand," Tyson said. "Forget about him being arrested, the fact that he hasn't been shot yet is a disgrace."
Quote from: Харвестер on 15-04-2012, 11:13:41
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Evo, tabloidi sad i prikazuju Hilari Klinton kako banči i pijanči u Kolumbiji, u povodu istog samita... Mislim, baš ne vidim šta je strašno ni u jednom ni u drugom ali eto...
Hillary Clinton parties in Colombia: Photos of dancing, beer-slugging secretary of state cause stir (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/hillary-clinton-parties-colombia-photos-dancing-beer-slugging-142828267.html)
A evo pokreta u kome bi Đorđe Vukadinović bio da je u Americi :lol:
The end of the Minutemen: Tea party absorbs the border-watching movement (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/end-minutemen-tea-party-absorbs-border-watching-movement-173424401.html)
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(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fl.yimg.com%2Fbt%2Fapi%2Fres%2F1.2%2FxJgMr4vbMauBQtB30kCqEQ--%2FYXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fmedia.zenfs.com%2Fen%2Fblogs%2Fthelookout%2FAP050923016609.jpg&hash=d0646b7a626236de4be42cd8971aa4da001c6a86)California Minutemen volunteers patrolling in 2005. (Sandy Huffaker/AP)
Back in 2004, Jim Gilchrist, a retired Marine and the founder of the California Minutemen Project, emailed a few dozen friends and family suggesting that concerned civilians personally combat illegal immigration by traveling to the Arizona border with him. Gilchrist lives in Orange County, Calif., but the Arizona border was the most heavily trafficked and sparsely patrolled. That email reached thousands of people and touched a nerve. Hundreds showed up in April 2005 to patrol the border. Some of them brought floppy hats, lawn chairs, binoculars and American flags. Others toted guns and protest signs. The group banned neo-Nazis from attending, though some came anyway (http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2005/summer/arizona-showdown?page=0,2). A movement was born.
Gilchrist estimates he did 4,000 radio and TV interviews over the next five years as his group's membership swelled and the media attention exploded. "It was just literally overwhelming," he said.
But today, the once-thriving Minutemen anti-illegal immigration fraternity has all but died out. No one knows exactly why the groups fizzled so quickly, but researchers and former border-watching leaders say infighting and bad press have taken a toll. At the same time, the tea party movement started to rise, which usurped members and stole the groups' thunder.
Still, the movement's message and popularity have left an indelible mark on the Republican Party, whose leaders underestimated the anger in their base over illegal immigration. The GOP, which at the time was considering legislation to legalize undocumented immigrants in a version of Ronald Reagan's 1986 immigration reform law, rejected the popular movement at first. President George W. Bush dismissed the Minutemen as "vigilantes," while Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Robert Bonner said (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/features/jan-june05/minuteman_4-06.html) he worried the volunteers would get hurt or hurt illegal immigrants.
Seven years later, Gilchrist tells Yahoo News that the Minutemen Project has petered out amid expensive legal battles over control of the group. Some of his former comrades attempted to fire him as president, alleging that he was using the group's funds inappropriately. He countersued for defamation and lost, but eventually won back control of the group in court. Outspoken activists mainly interested in money and fame infiltrated the ranks and tried to take over, says Gilchrist, distracting from the original goal of border watching. "There are bad apples," he said. "There are some in any group."
Meanwhile, the tea party emerged and absorbed the groups' concerns about illegal immigration and many of their leaders.
"You see an endless amount of splintered groups that range from a membership of one to a membership of 20," Gilchrist said. "No longer will you have a Minutemen organization going to the border with thousands of people." Last year, he began organizing a border rally planned for this May, but dropped the idea due to lack of interest and continued infighting. "I just decided it wasn't a good idea," he said. "There was just too many negative feelings." The last Minutemen Project outing to the border was in May 2011.
The downward trend is reflected in all the local Minutemen groups that sprouted up from 2005 to 2010 and then tapered off.
According to an analysis by Leonard Zeskind, who researches and advocates against what he calls far-right, racist or anti-Semitic groups (http://www.irehr.org/), the number of Minutemen organizations dropped by more than half from 2010 to 2011. Only 53 Minutemen groups showed signs of activity last year—down from a high of 115 in 2010—and none of them are currently patrolling the border. Zeskind blames the tea party for absorbing a good chunk of the movement. The widely publicized murders perpetrated by a former Minutemen leader against a Hispanic child and her father (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2011/0223/Arizona-justice-Shawna-Forde-death-sentence-a-rebuke-to-border-vigilantes) also contributed to the groups' decline. Heidi Bierich, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project, says that the only organized volunteers patrolling the border right now are the ones originally not welcome: neo-Nazis.
But it's not all bad news for border activists that the tea party has effectively absorbed them and their mission. More than 100 leaders of local anti-illegal immigration groups have now joined tea party chapters, according to Zeskind, giving their message a bigger platform. And even as their movement dissipates, their message grows louder. "The Minutemen put immigration on the map big-time," Bierich says. One example of the tea party-Minutemen melding is the Rally for Arizona in Phoenix in 2010, which tea partyers organized and attended. Its mission: to support Gov. Jan Brewer's state-level crackdown on illegal immigrants. Then there was the Mississippi Tea Party's push for that state's anti-illegal immigration law, which is modeled after the laws in Alabama and Arizona.
Fittingly, Gilchrist is now an active tea partyer himself, feeling that he's "accomplished [his] mission," having forced local and national politicians to curb illegal immigration. "For the very first time the Republican candidates—all of them without exception—are including the out-of-control immigration issue as one of the top three things in their platform," Gilchrist said.
Mitt Romney says he wants to build a fence on the entire border and make E-Verify a national law. His adviser is none other than Kris Kobach, the man who wrote most of the state-level bills that crack down on illegal immigration. In fact, the issue has cropped up again and again in the Republican primary, even though border apprehensions are down to 1970s levels, as the number of Border Patrol agents on the ground has doubled since 2004. America's faltering economy is also credited with the drop in attempted illegal crossings.
Still, not everyone is happy with the tea party's takeover.
After Gilchrist's big 2005 Arizona border event, Rick Biesada promptly returned home to Chicago and started up his own Minutemen chapter. Biesada's group protested various immigration-related issues in the area, such as when the Rev. Walter "Slim" Coleman provided sanctuary to an illegal immigrant in his church (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/social_issues/jan-june07/sanctuary_06-18.html) in 2007, and frequently clashed with immigrants' rights groups. A couple hundred volunteers joined the movement, Biesada says, but the group's last event was months ago, and only 20 people showed up.
"It was a popular movement and then it more or less got co-opted by the politicians and it seemed to dissolve throughout the country," he told Yahoo News.
Biesada, who until recently hosted a local radio show called "The Angry White Male Hour," isn't happy with the tea party alternative. "A lot of the people in the tea party don't want to be involved with immigration because they're afraid to be called racists," he said. Initially, the tea party formed not to deal with border issues, but to pressure lawmakers into curbing federal spending.
But others have a more positive take on the change. "We've spread our wings," said Al Garza, a former leader of the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps of 15,000 volunteers, an offshoot of Gilchrist's group.
Garza used to make the 50-mile drive from his home to the Arizona border as many as four times a day. There, he and other Minutemen volunteers, some of them armed, would scan the horizon for illegal immigrants with binoculars or night-vision goggles and then alert the Border Patrol if they spotted anyone or anything suspicious. They were often flanked by reporters and TV cameras, eager to capture the new, grass-roots movement of gun-toting anti-illegal immigration activists in action. Garza says he spent thousands of dollars of his own money on gas, water, binoculars, night-vision goggles, special clothing and other equipment.
Now, Garza can't remember the last time he went on patrol on the border. Instead, he spends his time advising several tea party groups.
ahahahahahah, ova hilari će mi još postati simpatična. a tekst je odličan, skoro pa dostiže slavne trenutke milijane baletić. :lol:
Minutemen, hi hi hi... Minutemen, :!: ... Minutemen, xrofl xrofl xrofl
Šta je smešno u vezi s minutmenima?
Pa, ništa. Skoro pa ništa :!: :-|
Možda se setio one scene iz Watchmen gde se aludira na to da minutemen brzo svrše tokom seksa pa im otud nadimak?
Čuj, filmske scene, to je sad valjda jedna od rečničkih odrednica.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minuteman (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minuteman)
Mislio sam na scenu iz stripa, ni ne sećam se da li se to pominje u filmu, al lepo je videti da je to ušlo među omladinu. :lol:
A šta znam ja seljak, nit sam gledao u strip ni u film. Negde mi se zakačila ta reč, valjda zbog (donekle voljenog) benda.
:lol: Bizarno je što je meni koji nisam preveliki fan benda, ipak bend prva asocijacija kad čujem reč, umesto da mi to bude strip koga veoma volim. Očigledno da sam došao u kontakt sa bendom u nežnim godinama formiranja ličnosti.
Ma, dosadni su, to stoji.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/latest-male-grooming-craze-afghanistan-145210300.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/latest-male-grooming-craze-afghanistan-145210300.html)
http://matrixworld-hr.com/2012/04/16/americka-agencija-za-zastitu-okolisa-odobrila-gmo-insekticid-odgovoran-za-pomor-pcela/ (http://matrixworld-hr.com/2012/04/16/americka-agencija-za-zastitu-okolisa-odobrila-gmo-insekticid-odgovoran-za-pomor-pcela/)
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Romni za čvršću politiku SAD
Vašington "Verovatni kandidat republikanaca na predsedničkim izborima u SAD Mit Romni zalaže se za okončanje spoljne politike koja se zasniva na traženju konsenzusa. On se zalaže za zauzimanje čvršćeg stava prema Iranu.
"Svet je bolji kada SAD preuzmu vođstvo. Ne treba da se igramo 'Majko, smem li' kada su u pitanju uvođenje sankcija Iranu i odnosi s Kinom i Rusijom", izjavio je glavni Romnijev savetnik za spoljnu politiku Ričard Vilijamson.
...Nedavno je rekao da je Rusija američki "geopolitički neprijatelj broj jedan" i obećao da će se s Kinom, "manipulatorom valute", obračunati na osnovu pravila Svetske trgovinske organizacije. "
Nema tu dobrog izbora. Republikanci su za čvšći stav, a demokrate bombarduju. Oni nikada nisu napustili robovlasnički sistem, samo su nekada morali da ih hrane i odevaju.
Quote from: scallop on 19-04-2012, 15:53:43
Republikanci su za čvšći stav, a demokrate bombarduju.
Odlično!! xcheers
McDonald's Worker Spits in Tea: How Gross is Fast Food? (http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/mcdonald-8217-worker-spits-tea-gross-fast-food-185600556.html)
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Police in South Carolina say that a McDonald's worker spit in two customers' cups (http://yhoo.it/HVDTl2) of iced tea after they returned them because they weren't sweet enough. A video shows the employee,19-year-old Marvin Washington Jr., leaning over the open cups before giving them back. The fast food chain patrons claim they discovered phlegm in the drinks when they removed their tops. He was arrested Wednesday and charged with malicious tampering with food.
Related: The 11 Worst Burgers in America (http://bit.ly/HSNiMX)
Eating out can be an exercise in suspended disbelief. Wide eyed, we assume the food is fresh and wholesome and that workers have followed the "employees must wash hands" decree posted in the bathroom. Nevertheless, the McDonald's incident is so sickening because it actually bears out the urban legend that a disdainful waiter can and will contaminate your food if you tick him off.
Kitchen Confidential
Chef and television personality Anthony Bourdain's bestseller, Kitchen Confidential: Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly, exposed the grungy side of the culinary world over a decade ago. Not only is the book a rollicking memoir about coming of age in the 1970s and 80s, it's a veritable primer for how not to get food poisoning on date night. Bourdain rudely threw open the kitchen doors and exposed restaurants' dirty little tricks such as filtering cigarette ash out of used butter to make a sauce and serving old beef to the customers who ordered it well done.
Chicken scandals
There are many more recent examples of restaurants serving contaminated food and having unsanitary kitchens, especially by fast food joints. Most recently, a lawsuit by the former manager of a Kentucky Friend Chicken franchise in Oregon alleges the owner fired other employees for refusing to serve chicken that had turned green (http://consumerist.com/2012/04/lawsuit-kfc-franchisee-made-employees-serve-expired-chicken.html) and passed its expiration date. According to the lawsuit, he resigned because he "couldn't stand serving rotten chicken to families anymore."
Related: Fast Food Saltier in US than Overseas (http://yhoo.it/HWKqy8)
The website kfcmademesick.com (http://consumerist.com/2012/04/lawsuit-kfc-franchisee-made-employees-serve-expired-chicken.html) chronicles a not-so-finger-lickin'-good list of other health code violations associated with the fried chicken franchise. They include rodent infestations, salmonella contamination, and foreign objects such as bandages and cock roaches showing up in cooked food.
Fast food dangers
Not to single out one business, an undercover NBC Dateline investigation (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3473728/ns/dateline_nbc-consumer_alert/t/dirty-dining/#.T5BGbe2c8mg) revealed that 60% of restaurants in the nation's top 10 chains had received critical health code violations in the year-and-a-half prior to the report. Caroline Smith-Dewaal who works for the Center for Science in the Public Interest (http://www.cspinet.org/), a food safety watchdog group, explained, "A critical violation is something that happens in a restaurant that may result in the food becoming contaminated."
Some of the recurring problems at franchises such as McDonalds, Taco Bell, Wendy's, and Burger King were rodent droppings, insects, food borne illnesses, debris and grime on counters and in prep areas, and poor employee sanitation. Given that about 25% of Americans (http://www.pamf.org/teen/health/nutrition/fastfood.html) eat fast food everyday, that's millions of opportunities to be exposed to something nasty, or worse, a pathogen that could make you sick.
The Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/18/kfc-expired-chicken-lawsuit_n_1435133.html) catalogs a revolting list of items reported to have been found in customers' fast food. Some of the gruesome highlights: maggots in Wendy's fries, saliva on a Whopper, a bloody band-aid in a Pizza Hut pizza crust, and a fried mouse in a basket of Popeye's chicken.
As for independent restaurants, Bourdain claims that kitchens are more sanitary than when he was working on the line. "Things are much better now—with fish markets, with the quality of food handling in general," he told WebMD (http://men.webmd.com/features/chef-anthony-bourdain-dishes-on-food-health). "There is a sense of pride and raised expectations in kitchens now that didn't exist when I started out." The availability of restaurant inspection reports online may also be pushing owners to clean up their acts.
Nevertheless, restaurant report cards have no control over the impulsive nature of human beings. Maybe it would be better just to sweeten that tea yourself.
Big manufacturers more likely to embrace "Made in USA": survey (http://news.yahoo.com/big-manufacturers-more-likely-embrace-made-usa-survey-040902290--sector.html)
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - Large U.S. manufacturers are much more likely than their smaller peers to move production to the United States from China, according to a survey.
Labor costs and the quality of goods are the top reasons for companies to consider so-called "re-shoring," with some companies considering the United States a de facto low-cost country because of its high unemployment, according to the survey by the Boston Consulting Group.
It found that 37 percent of all U.S.-based manufacturing executives either plan to or are actively considering moving production from China. That rises to 48 percent among companies with more than $10 billion in revenues, the poll found.
Majorities of those polled said they expected wage costs in China to continue to rise, and said sourcing there is more costly than it appears on paper because of factors such as proximity to customers and the ease of doing business.
Makers of rubber and plastic products are especially likely to consider re-shoring. Companies that make computer equipment, metal products and transportation goods are less likely to do so.
"The economics of manufacturing are swinging in favor of the U.S.," said Harold Sirkin, a BCG senior partner and co-author of the study. BCG says a more competitive U.S. manufacturing base could create up to 3 million jobs by the end of the decade.
The poll of 106 U.S.-based manufacturers was conducted online in February.
REDEFINING LOW-COST
Large companies have more plants whose production can be moved and better access to financing, Sirkin said. Among recent examples of what he called an accelerating trend, Sirkin cited Ford Motor, NCR, MasterLock, SleekAudio, Chesapeake Bay Candle, and Farouk Systems.
The United States is becoming a low-cost developed-world country, according to BCG, with wages typically below those in Western Europe or Japan. More European and Japanese companies are likely to export from U.S. plants.
Some companies, including General Electric Co and Boeing Co, have said they went too far in moving operations out of the United States and that wage differences are narrowing. GE has moved much of its appliance manufacturing from Mexico and China to Kentucky.
Caterpillar Inc has shifted some production from Japan, picking a site in Georgia to build small tractors and excavators. The maker of heavy machinery is building or expanding 15 U.S. facilities, but it also expanding production in China.
The re-shoring trend could be slowed or reversed, BCG says, if, for example, the value of the U.S. dollar rises sharply. Others say rising investment in overseas plants suggests that re-shoring companies are exceptions.
U.S. manufacturing shed about 16 percent of its jobs, or 2 million, during the 2007-2009 recession, according to the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, which has said a recent rebound in factory employment may not last.
Meanwhile, some 600,000 U.S. manufacturing jobs are going unfilled because of a dearth of skilled applicants, according to the Manufacturing Institute and Deloitte. A renewed focus on educating students in science, technology, engineering and math could address the shortfall, manufacturing executives say.
(Reporting by Nick Zieminski in New York; Editing by Gary Hill)
Kako su se dva Britanca lukavo dosetila da prevare venčr kapitaliste PLUS uzmu neki dinar i od firmi:
British twins face US fraud case (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-twins-charged-stock-fraud-020121337.html)
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A pair of British brothers are facing charges in the United States for allegedly defrauding investors out of more than 1.2m US dollars (£745,000) through a bogus stock scheme.
Twins Alexander and Thomas Hunter were just 16 years old when they devised the "elaborate" online scam which fooled around 75,000 people, according to US officials.
In 2007 the brothers, reportedly from Whitley Bay, North Tyneside, are alleged to have invented a fictitious "stock picking robot" and claimed on a series of websites that the highly sophisticated computer trading programme could identify stocks that were poised to rocket in value.
They then targeted thousands of unsuspecting investors, mainly in the US, selling them "home versions" of the bogus software - named Marl - and annual subscription to a newsletter that listed the programme's stock recommendations, it is said.
However, the stocks were not generated by any technical analysis and were in fact those companies were paying the brothers to promote, according to the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), who has brought the civil action.
Legal papers filed in a New York federal court claimed investors paid 47 US dollars for newsletters listing Marl's stock picks and 97 US dollars for the home software. The twins promoted the scam on websites doublingstocks.com, which claimed the robot's stock analysis earned returns of 34% per week, and daytradingrobot.com, it is said.
Meanwhile, the Hunters, now 20, received at least an additional 1.86m US dollars (£1.15m) in fees from stock promoters for their stock touting services, which was advertised on website equitypromoter.com. The site boasted of the brother's ability to "rocket" the price and volume of thinly traded penny stock issuers.
Once a stock promoter was reeled in by the scam, it is alleged the twins would send an email to the thousands of investors subscribed to their newsletter, recommending they buy the touted asset. And once investors followed the bogus advise the shares value and volume would instantly increase.
US officials claim the brothers breached both the Securities Act and Securities Exchange Act. The SEC is seeking permanent injunctions against the pair to prevent them from continuing to engage in securities fraud and an order requiring them to hand over their ill-gotten gains, which were allegedly collected in UK and offshore bank accounts.
In November, Newcastle Crown Court ordered Alexander Hunter to pay back nearly 1m US dollars after he admitted providing unregulated financial advice, according to the BBC. He was given a suspended 12-month prison sentence.
Šta će klinci, vidli kako se u Volstritu konji potkivaju, pa i oni potražili magarce. Svetska privreda radi po tom principu, a njih uvatili. Tako je i u izdavaštvu; ko čita blurbove kupuje fejk knjige.
Juče u Njujorku. Nije neka vest, ali odlična fotografija Meri Altafer:
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http://www.mondo.rs/s243071/Zabava/Zabava/Ludi_svet/Zelim_da_ubijem_Dzastina_Bibera.html (http://www.mondo.rs/s243071/Zabava/Zabava/Ludi_svet/Zelim_da_ubijem_Dzastina_Bibera.html)
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/tanning-booth-mom-says-arrest-taking-daughter-5-153138630.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/tanning-booth-mom-says-arrest-taking-daughter-5-153138630.html)
Can Going Without Money Hurt the Economy? One Man's Quest to Be Penniless (http://gma.yahoo.com/going-without-money-hurt-economy-one-mans-quest-211049892--abc-news-topstories.html)
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Daniel Suelo is 51 years old and broke. Happily broke. Consciously, deliberately, blessedly broke.
Not only does he not have debt, a mortgage or rent, he does not earn a salary. Nor does he buy food or clothes, or own any product with a lower case "i" before it. Home is a cave on public land outside Moab, Utah. He scavenges for food from the garbage or off the land (fried grasshoppers, anyone?). He has been known to carve up and boil fresh road kill. He bathes, without soap, in the creek.
In the fall of 2000, Suelo (who changed his name from Shellabarger), decided to stop using money altogether. That meant no "conscious barter," food stamps or other government handouts. His mission was to "use only what is freely given or discarded and what is already present and already running," he wrote on his web site, Zero Currency (http://zerocurrency.blogspot.com/2006/03/my-summary-of-why-i-live-moneyless.html).
The question many people wonder: Is he insane, or a mooch, or simply dedicated to leading a simple, honest, dare we say, Christ-like existence?
They're good questions. And depending whom you ask, the answers vary.
Suelo wasn't always a modern-day caveman. He went to the University of Colorado and studied anthropology, at one point considering medical school. He lived in a real house, with four walls, a window and a door, and shopped in stores, not their dumpsters.
But over time he says he grew depressed, clinically depressed, mainly with the focus on acquisition. "Every time I made a resume for a job, signed my name to a document, opened a bank account, or even bought a banana at the supermarket, I felt a tinge of dishonesty," he said.
He was born into an Evangelical Christian home in Grand Junction, Colo., and took his religion seriously. Eventually, he started wondering why "professed Christians rarely followed the teachings of Jesus--namely the Sermon on the Mount, namely giving up possessions, living beyond credit and debt--freely giving and freely taking--giving, expecting nothing in return, forgiving all debts, owing nobody a thing, living beyond payback of either evil-for-evil or good-for-good, living and walking without guilt (debt), without grudge (debt), without judgment (credit & debt), living by Grace, by Gratis, not by our own works but by the works of the true Nature flowing through," he said.
Although he considered himself a Christian, he discovered that the same principles applied to Taoism, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism, Islam, Mormonism, Shamanism, and Paganism.
One year he went to Alaska and worked on the docks. But that, too, he says, felt dishonest. Instead, he and a buddy decided to live off the land—spearing fish, foraging for mushrooms and berries. (Think Castaway, but with snow). Suelo (which means soil in Spanish) eventually hitch-hiked back to Moab with $50 in his pocket. By the time he arrived, his stash had dwindled to $25. He realized that he only needed money for things he really didn't need, like snacks and booze.
He began toying with the idea of living full-time without money. He traveled to India, and became fascinated by Hindu Sadhus, who wandered without lucre and possessions. He considered joining them, but then he realized that "A true test of faith would be to return to one of the most materialistic, money-worshipping nations on earth, to return to the authenticity profound principles of spirituality hidden beneath our own religion of hypocrisy, and be a Sadhu there," he said. "To be a vagabond, a bum, and make an art of it - this idea enchanted me."
And soon, that's exactly what he did. He says he left his life savings—a whopping $30—in a phone booth, and walked away.
But he didn't do it in a vacuum; he maintained his blog for free from the Moab public library. Rather than just sitting on a mountain and gazing at his navel, he wanted to have an impact on others, to spread his gospel.
In 2009, Mark Sundeen, an old acquaintance he'd worked with at a Moab restaurant, heard about Suelo through mutual friends. At first, "I thought he must have lost his mind," Sundeen, 42, said in a telephone conversation. But then he began reading his blog, and grew intrigued. Sundeen divides his time between Missoula, Mont., and Moab, where he was once a river guide, and he paid a visit to Suelo's cave.
Gradually, he said he realized that much of what Suelo was saying made a whole lot of sense. This was right around the time the economy crashed, and "It felt like a lot of what he was saying was prophetic," said Sundeen. "That money is an illusion, an addiction. That resonated with me after the collapse for the economy."
Sundeen was so intrigued that he decided to write a book about Suelo, The Man Who Quit Money (http://www.amazon.com/The-Man-Who-Quit-Money/dp/1594485690/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336080938&sr=8-1), which was published in March.
While the book reviews have been generally positive, Suelo has come under fire by some who say he's a derelict, sponging off society without contributing. They are valid criticisms: This is a guy, after all, who has gotten a citation for train hopping (what would Jesus say about that?). And he's not opposed to house sitting in winter--not exactly living off the land.
And besides: How is he actually helping others by going without? It's not like he's solving world hunger, or curing cancer.
Sundeen disputes these arguments. "He doesn't accept any government programs—welfare, food stamps, Medicare," he said. "The only ways in which he actually uses taxpayer funded derivatives is walking on roads and using the public library. So in that regard he's a mooch--he's using the roads and not paying taxes. But if you try to quantify the amount of money he's taking from the system—it's a couple of dollars a year, less than anyone's ever used."
Instead, he is actively promoting "his idea that money is an illusion," Sundeen said. "The Fed just prints it up, it doesn't mean anything and it's going to lead us down the road to serfdom." Suelo simply doesn't want to contribute to that, and so he lives life on his own terms.
That said, Sundeen wouldn't live the way Suelo does. "The appeal to me is the living outdoors part, but I feel like I got my feel of that working as an Outward Bound guide," he said. "At this point I have other priorities."
Suelo, for his part, has no plans to bring money back into his life. "I know it's possible to live without money," he said. "Abundantly."
Tu je uvek ono pitanje: kad bi se svi ponašali kao on, odakle bi stizala ta bačena hrana koju on jede, bačena odeća koju nosi (odeća se ne pominje, ali pretpostavljam da ne ide go unaokolo?), struja i kompjuteri i sve ostalo neophodno za internet?
Gomila ljudi mora da radi da bi on živeo tako kako živi.
Ma, zlotvor. Treba od njega napraviti sapun i donirati u Wall Street da operu ruke.
Jebote, šta ovaj Kurir objavljuje:
Srbin skinuo ribu Obami! (http://www.kurir-info.rs/srbin-skinuo-ribu-obami-clanak-211442)
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Prva velika ljubav američkog predsednika Aleks Meknir pre 30 godina zaljubila se u Branka Boba Božića, nekadašnjeg boksera i lošeg momka (https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages9.kurir-info.rs%2Fslika-620x333%2Fbranko-bob-bozic-1336254217-158148.jpg&hash=6a6842a9584cdb8d8d0e8c21b5c837af31062b0e)
Branko Bob Božić NJUJORK - Zaljubila se.
Srbin Branko Bob Božić (61) preoteo je prvu veliku ljubav američkog predsednika Baraka Obame. Reč je o Aleks Meknir (51), sa kojom je Obama bio u ljubavnoj vezi na koledžu, kada su imali 20 godina. Iako je predsednik SAD već tada bio perspektivan mladić, Aleks se ipak zaljubila u Srbina, koji se bavio boksom i bio problematičan momak.
Roditelji bili protiv
Romansa između Aleks i Boba počela je sredinom osamdesetih godina, kada je on već bio poznat po tome što je izgubio krajnje neizvestan boks-meč od šampiona Lerija Holmsa.
Njeni roditelji, koji su pripadali višoj srednjoj klasi, protivili su se toj vezi jer je on je poticao iz siromašne radničke porodice i imao kriminalnu prošlost.
Naime, Bob je rođen u Torontu, u Kanadi, gde se njegova porodica nastanila posle Drugog svetskog rata, jer je morala da izbegne iz Jugoslavije. Zbog siromaštva odrastao je u hraniteljskoj porodici. Kad je imao 15 godina, pobegao je od kuće i noći provodio u perionicama veša, a preko dana je morao da krade hranu.
Vlasnik jedne teretane sažalio se na dečaka i počeo da ga hrani. Tako se Bob susreo s boksom, a već sa 18 godina postao je amaterski prvak Kanade u teškoj kategoriji. Ubrzo je postao i profesionalac. Svi su mu predviđali sjajnu karijeru, ali on se povukao jer je počeo da gubi mečeve i putuje po svetu. U to vreme nekoliko puta je došao u sukob sa zakonom, čak je pokušao i da opljačka banku i uzme 60.000 dolara. Nakon toga zaposlio se kao izbacivač u klubu.
Jednog dana pozvala ga je Aleks, koja je tada radila kao advokat u Čikagu. Ona je htela da iznajmi klub za dobrotvornu aukciju. Tako su se upoznali i ona se zaljubila.
Odvojeni životi
Venčali su se 1987, a brak im je trajao sedam godina. Imaju ćerku Vesnu, koja ima 20 godina. Aleks je sada šef u energetskoj kompaniji ,,Grin lodžik" u Sautemptonu i udata je za dečjeg psihologa Roberta Stejna, a Bob je barmen u popularnom kafiću ,,Faneli" u Sohou, u Njujorku.
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Ako Amerikancima išta dođe glave, to će biti sise:
Time Magazine's Breastfeeding Cover: Moms React (http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/time-magazines-breastfeeding-cover-moms-react-185700989.html)
Quote(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fl1.yimg.com%2Fbt%2Fapi%2Fres%2F1.2%2F8iSNspdkUfVuBx_p4_yceA--%2FYXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fmedia.zenfs.com%2Fen-US%2Fblogs%2Fpartner%2F470_2359758.0&hash=6f0a0a77807017a0b6e74d9d974441b9f551e809)Does this cover go too far? (Photo: Time.com)The headline reads, "Are You Mom enough?" But if that wasn't enough to fan the flames of the Mommy Wars (http://yhoo.it/HOccgd), there's the photo that goes with it: A pretty young woman wearing skinny jeans and a tank top, nursing her nearly 4-year-old son. It's meant to illustrate a story about Dr. William Sears (http://yhoo.it/KOnI86) and attachment parenting (http://yhoo.it/INuaAh) but, given that there's more to that movement than extended breastfeeding, it seems as if Time magazine was going for sensationalism and shock value.
It's working.
Related: Child Star Mayim Bialik still nurses her 3-year-old son. Here's why... (http://yhoo.it/KOnU7b)
"Breast feeding is a natural thing to do, but standing on a chair and having mom stand there like she is a water fountain isn't the way to portray this," Yahoo! reader, San2, wrote (http://yhoo.it/JikATf).
"As a pediatrician, I believe that every mother should breastfeed her child for at least six months, preferably a year (even longer if they like)," KP.MD commented. "This, however, is extreme. And the photograph -- everything about its composition - sends a message that I find tasteless and more than a little disturbing."
"That is not the look of a loving and caring Mother, but the look of a defiant woman, daring you to tell her to cover up and/or wean her child," Yahoo! reader Can't Deny Truth added.
"We used an image that represents the attachment of a mother and child," Time's managing editor Rick Stengel told MSNBC. "The cover is meant to get your attention. It gets your attention. I think this is a legitimate debate. It's a debate lots and lots of women are having." (On "Morning Joe," MSNBC showed the cover but blurred the breast (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/vp/47368887#47368887); ABC's "The View" covered it -- and part of the child's mouth -- with a large black dot (https://twitter.com/#%21/WorldofIsaac/status/200602808075034624/photo/1).)
The mom on the provocative May 21st cover is 26-year-old Jamie Lynne Grumet of Los Angeles, a lactation consultant, breastfeeding advocate, and mother of two who blogs at I Am Not the Babysitter (http://iamnotthebabysitter.com/). The child at her breast is her son, Aram, who turns 4 in June. "I don't consider breast feeding immodest at all," she told Time magazine (http://lightbox.time.com/2012/05/10/parenting/#2). "I'm not shy about doing it in public."
"There are people who tell me there's going to call social services on me or that it's child molestation," Grumet tells Time (http://healthland.time.com/2012/05/10/q-a-with-jamie-lynne-grumet/), adding that her mother breast-fed her until she was 6. "But people have to realize this is biologically normal. It's not socially normal. The more people see it, the more it'll become normal in our culture. That's what I'm hoping. I want people to see it."
"There seems to be a war going on between conventional parenting and attachment parenting, and that's what I want to avoid," she added. "I want everyone to be encouraging. We're not on opposing teams. We all need to be encouraging to each other, and I don't think we're doing a very good job at that."
Photographer Martin Schoeller says that the photo, as well as the portraits he shot of other attachment parenting moms nursing their kids, was inspired by the iconic religious image of the Madonna and Child. The boy on the cover is standing on a chair, which makes him look both taller and older -- a technique that Schoeller says he used to underscore how unusual extended breastfeeding can seem.
"When you think of breast-feeding, you think of mothers holding their children, which was impossible with some of these older kids," he told Time (http://lightbox.time.com/2012/05/10/parenting/#2). "I liked the idea of having the kids standing up to underline the point that this was an uncommon situation."
But as Shawna Cohen points out at Mommyish (http://mommyish.com/childrearing/mommy-wars-time-magazines-latest-breastfeeding-cover-sparks-a-whole-new-controversy-254/), attachment parenting isn't all that uncommon. "It certainly got my attention, but it also angers me because it portrays AP moms as being totally extreme," she wrote. "And in most cases, that couldn't be further from the truth."
"I practiced a lot of what Dr. Sears recommended and will never regret it," a Yahoo! reader confided (http://yhoo.it/JikATf). "My pediatrician is very traditional and I just didn't discuss it with him. Unfortunately, this picture has done a great disservice for those of us who believe in attachment parenting and 'extended' breastfeeding."
Though plenty of people seem to think that Time has gone to far -- The Atlantic Wire (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/business/2012/05/does-breast-feeding-sell-magazines/52153/) called the cover "PG-13" and The Right Scoop (http://www.therightscoop.com/seriously-nsfw-time-magazines-new-cover-features-sexy-mom-breastfeeding-3-yr-old-sorta/) describes it as "seriously NSFW" and "soft porn" -- to others, the photo wasn't the most offensive part.
"While this picture is gawk-tastic, I'm more disturbed by the title of the article. 'Are You Mom Enough?'" Yahoo! reader Chrissy from Conroe, Texas, commented (http://yhoo.it/JikATf). "I'm sorry...'Mom Enough?' So this woman is deemed more of a 'mom' simply because she chose to breastfeed her child until he was damn near as tall as she is?"
What do you think? Did Time go too far?
Sad to dođoh da okačim. Ic Lajsa Erin ol over agen.
Dok uživate u životu i mrko gledate na svoje okruženje, pročitajte i kako u SAD doživljavaju "zemlju mogućnosti". Klinci u ovom trenutku duguju za školovanje preko trilion dolara, a pre nego što se zaposle dužni su 900$ mesečno za otplate kredita. Nazdravlje.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/business/student-loans-weighing-down-a-generation-with-heavy-debt.html?_r=1&hp (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/business/student-loans-weighing-down-a-generation-with-heavy-debt.html?_r=1&hp)
Igrajući đavolovog advokata, rekao bih kamo sreće da je tako kod nas: da studenti zadužuju sebe mesto što im roditelji plaćaju ne bi se toliko razvlačili, nego bi pozavršavali sve u roku. A članak veli da je prosečan studentski dug $23 000. Pa to je pola prosečne godišnje plate. Mačji kašalj.
Proći će mnogo vode Dunavom dok ti naučiš da razumeš ono što pročitaš. Moji unuci u SAD neće niti dužni ni cvonjka jer njihovi roditelji imaju pare da plate, a i oni će u onaj prosek duga koji se tebi čini malim. Znači, roditelji plaćaju onima koji obaraju prosek. Dalje, kad bi ti znao kako tamo izgleda raspodela primanja video bi da je ogroman procenat porodica po primanjima na nivou minimalne satnice od 9,15$ (i ispod jer poslodavci to slabo poštuju) i nekim čudom te porodice ne mogu da namire 180 radnih sati mesečno, te su osuđene na dva radna mesta, a deca na ulicu. SAD su dobra zemlja za bogate, a siromašni mogu u dugove za studiranje, lične pa i porodične, jer šta će roditelji nego da pokušaju da izvuku decu, kad se već oni nisu izvukli.
bojim se da ni u srbiji nije mnogo drugačije a vezano za siromašne porodice. mali broj ljudi iz vranja ili pirota može da pošalje decu u beograd, a ako ih i pošalju negde, to je obično neki vid "komjuniti koledža u prokuplju" koji i u usa i ovde ne vredi pišljiva boba.
volela ih da mi kažeš da nisam u pravu, btw.
Pa za početak, skalop će ti s pravom istaći da kod nas dobar deo studenata još uvek može da studira za džaba i na najboljim našim univerzitetima. Dakle za razliku od siromašnijih porodica u USA, naši su, ako im se deca potrude da upadnu na budžet, lišeni bar tog dela troškova (naravno, ostaju udžbenici, život u skupom gradu itd.)
Štos je u tome što svi imate stav, a skoro niko izvorne informacije. I, bre, nećete da pitate! Ni iz filmova koje gledate ništa ne naučite. Moji u SAD spadaju u onaj 1,5% gore na listi i troje dece u 1, 4 i 7 razredu osnovnog školovanja u "dobroj školi" ih koštaju skoro 50.000$ godišnje. Svako od njih će do fakulteta koštati 200.000$. Pa vi vidite.
tja. sta se daju pljackati umjesto da se vrate u srbiju.
U Srbiji bi ih savetovali magarci kao ti.
da. naravno da bi se prvo obratili rodbini. sto je greska. sa rodbinom samo jesti i piti. nikakve poslove.
u konkretnom slucaju samo jesti, ne i piti. sve u mjeri.
A da odskačeš onako kako te savetuju?
a sta ako iscasim zglob pri skakutanju? mislis da bih dobio neku mirovinu i ovako trijezan? je li to savjet?
To reši sa Merkelovom. Eno, stoji sve bolje, a ne skakuće.
ali skalope, ja nemam stav kao ni izvorne informacije, pa pitam. zasto se ljutis.
Ne pravi se blesav i ne diraj u porodicu.
tko ti dira u porodicu majmune?
Quote from: scallop on 13-05-2012, 22:05:06
Štos je u tome što svi imate stav, a skoro niko izvorne informacije. I, bre, nećete da pitate! Ni iz filmova koje gledate ništa ne naučite. Moji u SAD spadaju u onaj 1,5% gore na listi i troje dece u 1, 4 i 7 razredu osnovnog školovanja u "dobroj školi" ih koštaju skoro 50.000$ godišnje. Svako od njih će do fakulteta koštati 200.000$. Pa vi vidite.
idemo nanovo. mozda se naucis malo kulture.
osobe koje navodis ocigledno spadaju medju one koji posjeceju skole za koje vecina obicnih smrtnika nije nikad ni cula. to su vrhunske privatne skole koje izmedju ostalog sluze da bi se djecu uvelo u odredjene poslovne krugove i da bi stekli kontakte. ima ih po cijelom zapadnom svijetu i kostaju lijepe novce u kojoj god zemlji, ne samo u sad.
uglavnom uopce nisu relevantne za diskusiju koju si pokrenio. umanjuju troskove (dugove apsolvenata) koje navodis (a u koje se 100% ne razumijes) za 0,1 promila.
a odredjene epitete si cuvaj za obiteljska slavlja.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 11-05-2012, 11:27:44
Ako Amerikancima išta dođe glave, to će biti sise:
What do you think? Did Time go too far?
Mene ova fotka uopšte nije uznemirila. Štaviše, prva pomisao mi je da je baš lepa.
Quote from: Father Jape on 13-05-2012, 20:26:44
članak veli da je prosečan studentski dug $23 000. Pa to je pola prosečne godišnje plate.
The overall median personal income for all individuals over the age of 18 was
$24,062 ($32,140 for those age 25 or above) in the year 2005.
Ja sam gledao average, ne median:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage)
Pustite to, nego, Obama podržava Gej Brakove, sad će morati i naš budući predsednik, ma ko to bio:
Newsweek cover: Obama 'first gay president' (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/newsweek-obama-first-gay-president-144158226.html)
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It won't be nearly as controversial as Time magazine's breastfeeding cover (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/time-breastfeeding-cover-sparks-immediate-controversy-151539970.html;_ylt=AiVhxwP17FU4f0AZYzIBZo2bCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTFocm9hZXB0BG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlUZW1wQXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM2bTlkNXAyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNWUwNTczODctMDQwNC0zYTAzLWFiYmItYmM2ZjYzMzgxZDM0BHBzdGNhdANvcmlnaW5hbHN8dGhldGlja2V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=3), but Newsweek's May 21 issue declares Barack Obama the country's "first gay president."
The accompanying cover story was written by Andrew Sullivan, the popular--and openly gay--political blogger. The magazine even gives the commander-in-chief a rainbow halo.
Obama, Sullivan writes, "had to discover his black identity and then reconcile it with his white family, just as gays discover their homosexual identity and then have to reconcile it with their heterosexual family."
The full cover story is not yet online, but in a blog post published earlier this week (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ar8gPC9S6ddNQv4Uk5FjbbObCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTFoYzYwOGR0BG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzMEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlUZW1wQXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM2bTlkNXAyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNWUwNTczODctMDQwNC0zYTAzLWFiYmItYmM2ZjYzMzgxZDM0BHBzdGNhdANvcmlnaW5hbHN8dGhldGlja2V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=12ubjsbe0/EXP=1338194149/**http%3A//andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/05/obama-lets-go-of-fear.html), Sullivan wrote that Obama's support of gay marriage brought him to tears:
I do not know how orchestrated this was; and I do not know how calculated it is. What I know is that, absorbing the news, I was uncharacteristically at a loss for words for a while, didn't know what to write, and, like many Dish readers, there are tears in my eyes.
So let me simply say: I think of all the gay kids out there who now know they have their president on their side. I think of Maurice Sendak, who just died, whose decades-long relationship was never given the respect it deserved. I think of the centuries and decades in which gay people found it impossible to believe that marriage and inclusion in their own families was possible for them, so crushed were they by the weight of social and religious pressure. I think of all those in the plague years shut out of hospital rooms, thrown out of apartments, written out of wills, treated like human garbage because they loved another human being. I think of Frank Kameny. I think of the gay parents who now feel their president is behind their sacrifices and their love for their children.
The interview changes no laws; it has no tangible effect. But it reaffirms for me the integrity of this man we are immensely lucky to have in the White House. Obama's journey on this has been like that of many other Americans, when faced with the actual reality of gay lives and gay relationships. Yes, there was politics in a lot of it. But not all of it. I was in the room long before the 2008 primaries when Obama spoke to the mother of a gay son about marriage equality. He said he was for equality, but not marriage. Five years later, he sees--as we all see--that you cannot have one without the other. But even then, you knew he saw that woman's son as his equal as a citizen. It was a moment--way off the record at the time--that clinched my support for him.
Today Obama did more than make a logical step. He let go of fear. He is clearly prepared to let the political chips fall as they may. That's why we elected him.
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The New Yorker, which is also out with a cover story on gay marriage (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AkaG7MdH3Ila3GGRUBjaNgabCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTFoNDIwNWM2BG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzUEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlUZW1wQXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM2bTlkNXAyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNWUwNTczODctMDQwNC0zYTAzLWFiYmItYmM2ZjYzMzgxZDM0BHBzdGNhdANvcmlnaW5hbHN8dGhldGlja2V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=13ct4f8b0/EXP=1338194149/**http%3A//www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/05/cover-story-spectrum-of-light.html), took a bit more subtle approach with its May 21 issue.
"It's a celebratory moment for our country, and that's what I tried to capture," Bob Staake, the artist behind the New Yorker cover, said (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AhnhnmHvAoLyils_Ho5AsTGbCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTFoYmI3NnVsBG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzYEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlUZW1wQXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM2bTlkNXAyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNWUwNTczODctMDQwNC0zYTAzLWFiYmItYmM2ZjYzMzgxZDM0BHBzdGNhdANvcmlnaW5hbHN8dGhldGlja2V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=13ct4f8b0/EXP=1338194149/**http%3A//www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/05/cover-story-spectrum-of-light.html). "I don't especially like those rainbow colors, but they are what they are—I had to use them."
He added: "I wanted to celebrate the bravery of the President's statement—a statement long overdue—but all the more appreciated in this political year. We are on the right side of history."
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meho,
čitaš li ti išta osim sopstvenih linkova? :mrgreen: :lol:
Quote from: Father Jape on 14-05-2012, 07:26:24
Ja sam gledao average, ne median:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_wage)
koliko ja vidim to je GDP per capita, i Srbija ima 10,642 dolara, što bi trebalo da znači da je 700 dolara prosječna mjesečna plata, a nije.
Quote from: lilit_depp on 14-05-2012, 12:06:10
meho,
čitaš li ti išta osim sopstvenih linkova? :mrgreen: :lol:
Slabo, a što?
sa gej teme:
Quote from: lilit_depp on 12-05-2012, 19:57:02
obama napokon dao (ličnu) podršku gej brakovima, ali...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/9261751/Why-Obamas-support-for-gay-marriage-is-a-huge-political-gamble.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/9261751/Why-Obamas-support-for-gay-marriage-is-a-huge-political-gamble.html)
A, ma video sam to, ali ovo moje je više zbog naslovne strane Njuzvika i teglajna "prvi gej precednik".
To se ne važi. Prihvatam samo ako bi na slici Obama davao strasan poljubac nekom muškom članu administracije.
Ama, nije on stvarno gej precednik, ali je prvi američki precednik koji je otvoreno endorsovao gej brak. Velika stvar itd.
Znam da nije, no se šalim
можда и јесте!!!! лери синклер тврди, не само да је геј, него да се ваља у кокаину и да лаже!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
и прошао је полиграф, 2 пута (додуше инконклузив) :-?
у овом новом светлу, геј бракови су нешто што се могло очекивати од обаме, још само да призна да није рођен у САД :lol:
>QuoteGelb's Report on oral sex question (1st series):
"The issue under consideration dealt with Sinclair's representation that he had performed oral sex on Barack Obama in 1999. During an extensive pre-test interview, Sinclair emphatically asserted the sex act took place in a limousine rented by him in the Chicago area...Two target questions: Did you perform oral sex on Obama in 1999? Are you lying when you say you performed oral sex on Obama in 1999? The...polygrams were hand-scored as required by the Government in a PCA examination. To render a conclusion of deception there must be a... -3 in any spot or...a grand total of -4 for both spots. Sinclair's polygrams resulted in an evaluation of "deception indication" with a score of -15 (for the oral sex questions)."
Barland's final analysis (https://antipolygraph.org/documents/sinclair-polygraph-barland-review.pdf):
Barland: QC review of Larry Sinclair polygraph
Although no examination is perfectly conducted I believe that the irregularities in
this examination would be more likely to create an inconclusive result than."an erroneous
one".
However, these charts are not inconclusive. Based-upon my review of this
examination, I concur in Mr. Gelb's finding that Mr. Sinclair was n0t telling the complete
truth in his claims to have engaged in oral sex with Senator Obama and that Senator Obama used cocaine in his presence .
интервју са лари синклером (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t5RMWyGlr0#)... :lol:
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http://www.salon.com/2012/05/14/our_real_first_gay_president/ (http://www.salon.com/2012/05/14/our_real_first_gay_president/)
ima zanimljiv osvrt na proganjanje brada i brkova iz preduzeća i institucija :D
Ha, ali nije li u Linkolnovo vreme potpuna ćosavost bila podjednako neuobičajena kao brada danas?
Što je brada danas neuobičajena? oO
Mislim u meri u kojoj to ističu u članku. U preduzećima i institucijama. : P
Jah, da, tada je griva bila i obavezna nekako, da se vidi da si gospodin koji ne mora da rmba u znoju lica svog kao plebs, već radiš kulurno za astalom u kancelariji ili kafani...
Quote from: Father Jape on 15-05-2012, 14:41:17
Ha, ali nije li u Linkolnovo vreme potpuna ćosavost bila podjednako neuobičajena kao brada danas?
brada nije neuobicajena, skoro svi je nose:
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Tako je!
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koja je ovo sekta? stovatelji jetija?
Blizu. Štovalac sam Sgt. Adamsa.
ако је до овог дошло, the end is nigh
http://kotaku.com/5911031/three-teens-arrested-for-stealing-400-worth-of-pokemons (http://kotaku.com/5911031/three-teens-arrested-for-stealing-400-worth-of-pokemons)
Ovo je moglo i u World Today, al pošto je iz NY Timesa...
Capitalists and Other Psychopaths (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/opinion/sunday/fables-of-wealth.html)
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By WILLIAM DERESIEWICZ Published: May 12, 2012 THERE is an ongoing debate in this country about the rich: who they are, what their social role may be, whether they are good or bad. Well, consider the following. A 2010 study found that 4 percent of a sample of corporate managers met a clinical threshold for being labeled psychopaths, compared with 1 percent for the population at large. (However, the sample was not representative, as the study's authors have noted.) Another study (http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/02/21/1118373109.abstract)concluded that the rich are more likely to lie, cheat and break the law.
The only thing that puzzles me about these claims is that anyone would find them surprising. Wall Street is capitalism in its purest form, and capitalism is predicated on bad behavior. This should hardly be news. The English writer Bernard Mandeville asserted as much nearly three centuries ago in a satirical-poem-cum-philosophical-treatise called "The Fable of the Bees."
"Private Vices, Publick Benefits" read the book's subtitle. A Machiavelli of the economic realm — a man who showed us as we are, not as we like to think we are — Mandeville argued that commercial society creates prosperity by harnessing our natural impulses: fraud, luxury and pride. By "pride" Mandeville meant vanity; by "luxury" he meant the desire for sensuous indulgence. These create demand, as every ad man knows. On the supply side, as we'd say, was fraud: "All Trades and Places knew some Cheat, / No Calling was without Deceit."
In other words, Enron, BP, Goldman, Philip Morris, G.E., Merck, etc., etc. Accounting fraud, tax evasion, toxic dumping, product safety violations, bid rigging, overbilling, perjury. The Walmart bribery scandal, the News Corp. hacking scandal — just open up the business section on an average day. Shafting your workers, hurting your customers, destroying the land. Leaving the public to pick up the tab. These aren't anomalies; this is how the system works: you get away with what you can and try to weasel out when you get caught.
I always found the notion of a business school amusing. What kinds of courses do they offer? Robbing Widows and Orphans? Grinding the Faces of the Poor? Having It Both Ways? Feeding at the Public Trough? There was a documentary several years ago called "The Corporation" that accepted the premise that corporations are persons and then asked what kind of people they are. The answer was, precisely, psychopaths: indifferent to others, incapable of guilt, exclusively devoted to their own interests.
There are ethical corporations, yes, and ethical businesspeople, but ethics in capitalism is purely optional, purely extrinsic. To expect morality in the market is to commit a category error. Capitalist values are antithetical to Christian ones. (How the loudest Christians in our public life can also be the most bellicose proponents of an unbridled free market is a matter for their own consciences.) Capitalist values are also antithetical to democratic ones. Like Christian ethics, the principles of republican government require us to consider the interests of others. Capitalism, which entails the single-minded pursuit of profit, would have us believe that it's every man for himself.
There's been a lot of talk lately about "job creators," a phrase begotten by Frank Luntz, the right-wing propaganda guru, on the ghost of Ayn Rand. The rich deserve our gratitude as well as everything they have, in other words, and all the rest is envy.
First of all, if entrepreneurs are job creators, workers are wealth creators. Entrepreneurs use wealth to create jobs for workers. Workers use labor to create wealth for entrepreneurs — the excess productivity, over and above wages and other compensation, that goes to corporate profits. It's neither party's goal to benefit the other, but that's what happens nonetheless.
Also, entrepreneurs and the rich are different and only partly overlapping categories. Most of the rich are not entrepreneurs; they are executives of established corporations, institutional managers of other kinds, the wealthiest doctors and lawyers, the most successful entertainers and athletes, people who simply inherited their money or, yes, people who work on Wall Street.
MOST important, neither entrepreneurs nor the rich have a monopoly on brains, sweat or risk. There are scientists — and artists and scholars — who are just as smart as any entrepreneur, only they are interested in different rewards. A single mother holding down a job and putting herself through community college works just as hard as any hedge fund manager. A person who takes out a mortgage — or a student loan, or who conceives a child — on the strength of a job she knows she could lose at any moment (thanks, perhaps, to one of those job creators) assumes as much risk as someone who starts a business.
Enormous matters of policy depend on these perceptions: what we're going to tax, and how much; what we're going to spend, and on whom. But while "job creators" may be a new term, the adulation it expresses — and the contempt that it so clearly signals — are not. "Poor Americans are urged to hate themselves," Kurt Vonnegut wrote in "Slaughterhouse-Five." And so, "they mock themselves and glorify their betters." Our most destructive lie, he added, "is that it is very easy for any American to make money." The lie goes on. The poor are lazy, stupid and evil. The rich are brilliant, courageous and good. They shower their beneficence upon the rest of us.
Mandeville believed the individual pursuit of self-interest could redound to public benefit, but unlike Adam Smith, he didn't think it did so on its own. Smith's "hand" was "invisible" — the automatic operation of the market. Mandeville's involved "the dextrous Management of a skilful Politician" — in modern terms, legislation, regulation and taxation. Or as he versified it, "Vice is beneficial found, / When it's by Justice lopt, and bound." An essayist, critic and the author (http://www.amazon.com/William-Deresiewicz/e/B001HCXOYO/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1/190-0104963-3035747) of "A Jane Austen Education." This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:
Correction: May 16, 2012
An earlier version of this article misstated the findings of a 2010 study on psychopathy in corporations. The study found that 4 percent of a sample of 203 corporate professionals met a clinical threshold for being described as psychopaths, not that 10 percent of people who work on Wall Street are clinical psychopaths. In addition, the study (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bsl.925/abstract), in the journal Behavioral Sciences and the Law, was not based on a representative sample; the authors of the study say that the 4 percent figure cannot be generalized to the larger population of corporate managers and executives. A version of this op-ed appeared in print on May 13, 2012, on page SR5 of the New York edition with the headline: Capitalists And Other Psychopaths.
A evo i Language Log odgovora na prvobitni članak:
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3957 (http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3957)
QuoteWilliam Deresiewicz, "Capitalists and Other Psychopaths", NYT 5/12/2012:
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THERE is an ongoing debate in this country about the rich: who they are, what their social role may be, whether they are good or bad. Well, consider the following. A recent study found that 10 percent of people who work on Wall Street are "clinical psychopaths," exhibiting a lack of interest in and empathy for others and an "unparalleled capacity for lying, fabrication, and manipulation." (The proportion at large is 1 percent.) [...]
The only thing that puzzles me about these claims is that anyone would find them surprising.
The only thing that puzzles *me* about such claims is that they spread so far in reputable publications, over such a long period of time, despite being complete fabrications.
Da, da, mada su ovi korigovali tvrdnju i objavili ispravku.
Nije samo Amerika, no čitav zapadni svet, ali svejedno evo ovde dobrog objašnjenja porasta u gojaznosti
The Skinny on Obesity (Ep. 3): Hunger and Hormones- A Vicious Cycle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo3TRbkIrow#ws)
Virtual Terrorism: Al Qaeda Video Calls for 'Electronic Jihad' (http://news.yahoo.com/virtual-terrorism-al-qaeda-video-calls-electronic-jihad-214355054.html)
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Al Qaeda may be turning its destructive attention to cyber-warfare against the United States. In a chilling video, an al Qaeda operative calls for "electronic jihad" against the United States, and compares vulnerabilities in vital American computer networks to the flaws in aviation security before the 9/11 attack.
The al Qaeda video calls upon the "covert mujahidin" to launch cyber attacks against the U.S. networks of both government and critical infrastructure, including the electric grid. The video was obtained by the FBI last year, and released today by the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
"This is the clearest evidence we've seen that al Qaeda and other terrorist groups want to attack the cyber systems of our critical infrastructure," Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., said in a statement.
"This video is troubling as it urges al Qaeda adherents to launch a cyber attack on America," said Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, the ranking member on the committee. "It's clear that al Qaeda is exploring all means to do us harm and this is evidence that our critical infrastructure is a target."
The national security community says the threat of cyber attack is real, and the gap between terrorist aspirations and capability is closing. The senior intelligence official at Cyber Command, Rear Adm. Samuel Cox, has said al Qaeda operatives are seeking the capability to stage cyber attacks against U.S. networks and terrorists could purchase the capabilities to do so from expert criminal hackers.
Increasing evidence also suggests that Iran is looking to commit cyber attacks against the United States, according to testimony last month before the House Committee on Homeland Security. Iran's sponsorship of terrorist groups takes on a new dimension in cyberspace, where it could develop a powerful cyber weapon and pass it on to a terrorist group.
Lieberman is using the al Qaeda video to underline what he says is the need for new legislation..
"Congress needs to act now to protect the American public from a possible devastating attack on our electric grid, water delivery systems, or financial networks," he said. "As numerous, bipartisan national security experts have said, minimum cyber security standards for those networks are necessary to protect our national and economic security. That is why the Senate needs to act on our bipartisan Cyber Security Act that requires minimum security performance requirements for key critical infrastructure cyber networks."
The Homeland Security Committee says the Department of Homeland Security received more than 50,000 reports of cyber intrusions or attempted intrusions since October, an increase of 10,000 reports over the same period the previous year.
Takođe i:
FBI Investigates 'Revenge Porn' Website Founder (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/fbi-investigates-revenge-porn-website-founder/story?id=16405425)
Zastrašujući i humoristički intoniran uvid u američko visoko školstvo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.cracked.com/article_19849_5-infuriating-things-nobody-tells-you-about-college.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_19849_5-infuriating-things-nobody-tells-you-about-college.html)
Evo, da ne ispadne da samo naši predsednici treba da paze šta govore: Obama je uspeo da naljuti Poljake pozivajući se na "poljske logore smrti" iz Drugog svetskog rata:
Polish prime minister demands Obama address Nazi gaffe (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/polish-prime-minister-demands-obama-address-nazi-gaffe-134712205.html)
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Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk angrily demanded Wednesday that President Barack Obama explain his reference to "a Polish death camp" during a high-profile White House ceremony a day earlier, saying the remark smacked of "ignorance, lack of knowledge, bad intentions (http://www.premier.gov.pl/en/press_centre/news/prime_minister_donald_tusk_s,10217/)" and amounted to "a distortion of history."
"When someone says 'Polish death camps,' it is as if there were no Nazis, no German responsibility, as if there was no Hitler—that is why our Polish sensitivity in these situations is so much more than just simply a feeling of national pride," the prime minister said.
[Related: WH says Obama 'misspoke' of death camp (http://yhoo.it/Ju3hgf)]
Tusk bluntly rejected National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor's expression of "regret" for the remarks and acknowledgment that Obama "misspoke" as falling woefully short of making up for the mistake.
"I am convinced that today, our American friends are capable of a stronger reaction—a clearer one, and one which perhaps eliminates, once and for all, these types of mistakes—than just the correction itself and the regret which we heard from the White House spokesperson," the prime minister said in a statement posted in English on his official website.
"We take note of these words, but it seems that it would be even more important for the United States than for Poland to end this with class. That is how one acts with regard to tried-and-tested friends, but this is also how one acts in your own, well-defined interest. I believe our allies are capable of such behavior," Tusk said.
Obama ignited the diplomatic flare-up (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/05/29/remarks-president-presidential-medal-freedom-ceremony) on Tuesday as he honored Polish resistance hero Jan Karski and others with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, America's highest civilian honor.
"Jan served as a courier for the Polish resistance during the darkest days of World War II. Before one trip across enemy lines, resistance fighters told him that Jews were being murdered on a massive scale, and smuggled him into the Warsaw Ghetto and a Polish death camp to see for himself," the president said.
Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski immediately demanded on Twitter that the White House apologize for what he called an "outrageous mistake (https://twitter.com/sikorskiradek/status/207605418816577537)" and said the ceremony had been "overshadowed by ignorance and incompetence." Conservatives happily piled on: David Frum, former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, likened Obama's comment to saying that the Atlantic slave trade had been run by Africans (https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/207805673801650176).
"Obviously the insult to Poles was unintentional. That's what's shocking. Cdnt be bothered to get it right, even when honoring a Polish hero," Frum added in a subsequent tweet (https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/207806197112385538).
But while the White House could easily shrug off criticism from partisan sources, Tusk's blistering statement suggested that Obama himself would need to try to defuse the controversy.
"The words uttered yesterday by the President of the United States Barack Obama concerning 'Polish death camps' touched all Poles," Tusk said.
"We always react in the same way when ignorance, lack of knowledge, bad intentions lead to such a distortion of history, so painful for us here in Poland, in a country which suffered like no other in Europe during World War II," the prime minister said.
"Here, in Poland, we cannot accept such words even if they are spoken by the leader of a friendly power—or perhaps especially in such situations—since we expect diligence, care, and respect from our friends on issues of such importance as World War II remembrance. In Polish-American relations, in friendly relations, respect vis-à-vis the smaller partner should be the most recognizable sign of such relations," Tusk said.
[Related: Newly discovered photos from inside Hitler's home (http://yhoo.it/KsbaGQ)]
Obama has avoided that blunder before. In a late-April visit to the Holocaust Museum in Washington, he cited the Poles among the victims of Nazi genocide. "We tell them, our children, about the millions of Poles and Catholics and Roma and gay people and so many others who also must never be forgotten," Obama said (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/04/23/remarks-president-united-states-holocaust-memorial-museum).
And in a January 27, 2010, videotaped statement for the ceremony marking the 65th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Obama paid tribute to the Polish resistance (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/text-videotaped-message-president-barack-obama-ceremony-commemorating-65th-annivers).
"Even as we recall man's capacity for evil, Auschwitz also tells another story—of man's capacity for good. The small acts of compassion—the sharing of some bread that kept a child alive. The great acts of resistance that blew up the crematorium and tried to stop the slaughter. The Polish Rescuers and those who earned their place forever in the Righteous Among the Nations," he said.
Lepo je videti da se nauka bavi važnim pitanjima:
Old People Do Smell, But Not That Badly (http://news.yahoo.com/old-people-smell-not-badly-224931659.html)
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The distinctive "old person smell" you may have picked up on when visiting your grandparents most likely wasn't your imagination, a new study indicates.
When given whiffs from pieces of pads worn under the armpits of young, middle-aged and elderly people for five consecutive nights, study participants could reliably distinguish the body odor (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Aq9dyyJy4tIKrQLql8YrGiQbANEA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqMDgxZXM0BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJqMXEzNjJkBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZDY2NGM0NjctZDNiOC0zY2ExLTg5YzQtMzI3MWExZWIxMDVjBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=12gh6fag6/EXP=1339689798/**http%3A//www.livescience.com/5188-odor-unique-fingerprint.html) of the elderly, who were 75 and older, the researchers found.
"The results of this study support the cross-culturally popular concept of an 'old person odor,'" writes the international team in a study published today (May 30) in the journal PLoS ONE.
The notion that the elderly have a distinct smell exists in multiple cultures, and usually the odor is said to be unpleasant. But this probably has more to do with negative perceptions of old age, rather than with the odor itself, according to study researcher Johan Lundström, an assistant professor at the Monell Chemical Senses Center in Philadelphia.
In the study, participants rated the smell of the elderly people as less intense and less unpleasant than the body odor of young people (20 to 30 years old) and middle-aged people (45 to 55 years old). This effect was driven by how the participants rated the body odor from men, who appeared to smell the worst and the strongest in middle age. The odor from women (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=As9Zyl5K6ia81tmZOzBtLyAbANEA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaWd2Ymg3BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJqMXEzNjJkBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZDY2NGM0NjctZDNiOC0zY2ExLTg5YzQtMzI3MWExZWIxMDVjBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=12832d8o4/EXP=1339689798/**http%3A//www.livescience.com/3457-women-smell-men.html) of all ages was rated as less intense than men, and closer to neutral smelling for the young and middle-aged.
The team used young people to do the sniffing for two reasons: They were more plentiful as volunteers and using participants from different age groups could potentially introduce a new layer of complexity, if age of the smeller influences how body odor is perceived, Lundström said.
He cautioned that while the participants did appear able to distinguish the elderly body odor, discriminating between age categories and correctly labeling odors from the elderly, they did not demonstrate a strong talent for it and showed low confidence in their abilities. [Personality Traits Affect How We Smell (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ark5_y1yYZhXpVNthhYQDzUbANEA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaTNjbzlmBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzMEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJqMXEzNjJkBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZDY2NGM0NjctZDNiOC0zY2ExLTg5YzQtMzI3MWExZWIxMDVjBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=14a1b7jkr/EXP=1339689798/**http%3A//www.myhealthnewsdaily.com/1966-personality-traits-affect-smell.htmlhttp%3A/www.livescience.com/10457-smell.html)]
It's not yet clear why body odor changes as humans age or why humans are able to pick up on these changes.
Body odors originate from an interaction between skin gland secretions and bacteria on our skin. As people age, the activity of different types of skin glands changes. This factor may contribute to the perceived change in body odor with age, the researchers write.
So far, scientists can only speculate on why this apparent signal for old age exists. Research in other animals indicates that such an odor may act as a sign of the "good genes" that have allowed a male to live into old age, making him more attractive to females (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=ApG5mHINf8vnQ96BcCgu3LkbANEA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqc2Fobm1zBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzQEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJqMXEzNjJkBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZDY2NGM0NjctZDNiOC0zY2ExLTg5YzQtMzI3MWExZWIxMDVjBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=12ig8dbf1/EXP=1339689798/**http%3A//www.livescience.com/2781-pill-women-pick-bad-mates.html). It's also possible the distinctive odor is not a direct result of age; for instance, it could be associated with increased inflammation (part of an immune response) within the bodies of the elderly, Lundström said.
Драго ми је кад видим да неко, све и да није "наше горе лист" :roll: разобличава Империју Зла као бедну, назадну и антицивилизацијску:
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/326569/Srpkinja-iz-Cikaga-podnela-tuzbu-jer-joj-je-serif-zabranio-da-doji-bebu-na-javnom-mestu (http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/326569/Srpkinja-iz-Cikaga-podnela-tuzbu-jer-joj-je-serif-zabranio-da-doji-bebu-na-javnom-mestu)
QuoteNatali Petrović (21) iz Skokija, predgrađa Čikaga, podnela je tužbu protiv okruga Kuk i šerifa Toma Darta tvrdeći da je od nje traženo da prekine da doji svoju bebu u prostorijama suda i premesti se u javni WC.
Вероватно би и одрасли требало да једу по јавним клозетима... Ма, уствари, Американци би и требало.
едит: И развеселили су ме малограђански коментари и оцене на Der Blitzenu.
de bre, ako mogu osobe istog pola da krljaju na sred ulice može brate i da se doji beba.
ma Borat je sve objasnio kad je kenjao ispred poslovne zgrade
Quote from: Бата Животиња on 03-06-2012, 16:16:51
de bre, ako mogu osobe istog pola da krljaju na sred ulice može brate i da se doji beba.
Нема то везе једно с другим.
govorim iz njihove perspektive
razlozi su što je dojenje u javnosti ''neprijatno i ponižavajuće''
pa to može da se odnosi na bezbroj stvari
AP IMPACT: Suicides are surging among US troops (http://news.yahoo.com/ap-impact-suicides-surging-among-us-troops-204148055.html)
QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — Suicides are surging among America's troops, averaging nearly one a day this year — the fastest pace in the nation's decade of war.
The 154 suicides for active-duty troops in the first 155 days of the year far outdistance the U.S. forces killed in action in Afghanistan — about 50 percent more — according to Pentagon statistics obtained by The Associated Press.
The numbers reflect a military burdened with wartime demands from Iraq and Afghanistan that have taken a greater toll than foreseen a decade ago. The military also is struggling with increased sexual assaults, alcohol abuse, domestic violence and other misbehavior.
Because suicides had leveled off in 2010 and 2011, this year's upswing has caught some officials by surprise.
The reasons for the increase are not fully understood. Among explanations, studies have pointed to combat exposure, post-traumatic stress, misuse of prescription medications and personal financial problems. Army data suggest soldiers with multiple combat tours are at greater risk of committing suicide, although a substantial proportion of Army suicides are committed by soldiers who never deployed.
The unpopular war in Afghanistan is winding down with the last combat troops scheduled to leave at the end of 2014. But this year has seen record numbers of soldiers being killed by Afghan troops, and there also have been several scandals involving U.S. troop misconduct.
The 2012 active-duty suicide total of 154 through June 3 compares to 130 in the same period last year, an 18 percent increase. And it's more than the 136.2 suicides that the Pentagon had projected for this period based on the trend from 2001-2011. This year's January-May total is up 25 percent from two years ago, and it is 16 percent ahead of the pace for 2009, which ended with the highest yearly total thus far.
Suicide totals have exceeded U.S. combat deaths in Afghanistan in earlier periods, including for the full years 2008 and 2009.
The suicide pattern varies over the course of a year, but in each of the past five years the trend through May was a reliable predictor for the full year, according to a chart based on figures provided by the Armed Forces Medical Examiner.
The numbers are rising among the 1.4 million active-duty military personnel despite years of effort to encourage troops to seek help with mental health problems. Many in the military believe that going for help is seen as a sign of weakness and thus a potential threat to advancement.
Kim Ruocco, widow of Marine Maj. John Ruocco, a helicopter pilot who hanged himself in 2005 between Iraq deployments, said he was unable to bring himself to go for help.
"He was so afraid of how people would view him once he went for help," she said in an interview at her home in suburban Boston. "He thought that people would think he was weak, that people would think he was just trying to get out of redeploying or trying to get out of service, or that he just couldn't hack it - when, in reality, he was sick. He had suffered injury in combat and he had also suffered from depression and let it go untreated for years. And because of that, he's dead today."
Ruocco is currently director of suicide prevention programs for the military support organization Tragedy Assistance Programs, or TAPS. She joined the group after her husband's suicide, and she organized its first program focused on support for families of suicide victims.
Jackie Garrick, head of a newly established Defense Suicide Prevention Office at the Pentagon, said in an interview Thursday that the suicide numbers this year are troubling.
"We are very concerned at this point that we are seeing a high number of suicides at a point in time where we were expecting to see a lower number of suicides," she said, adding that the weak U.S. economy may be confounding preventive efforts even as the pace of military deployments eases.
Garrick said experts are still struggling to understand suicidal behavior.
"What makes one person become suicidal and another not is truly an unknown," she said.
Dr. Stephen N. Xenakis, a retired Army brigadier general and a practicing psychiatrist, said the suicides reflect the level of tension as the U.S. eases out of Afghanistan though violence continues.
"It's a sign in general of the stress the Army has been under over the 10 years of war," he said in an interview. "We've seen before that these signs show up even more dramatically when the fighting seems to go down and the Army is returning to garrison."
But Xenakis said he worries that many senior military officers do not grasp the nature of the suicide problem.
A glaring example of that became public when a senior Army general recently told soldiers considering suicide to "act like an adult."
Maj. Gen. Dana Pittard, commander of the 1st Armored Division, last month retracted — but did not apologize for — a statement in his Army blog in January. He had written, "I have now come to the conclusion that suicide is an absolutely selfish act." He also wrote, "''I am personally fed up with soldiers who are choosing to take their own lives so that others can clean up their mess. Be an adult, act like an adult, and deal with your real-life problems like the rest of us." He did also counsel soldiers to seek help.
His remarks drew a public rebuke from the Army, which has the highest number of suicides and called his assertions "clearly wrong." Last week the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, said he disagrees with Pittard "in the strongest possible terms."
The military services have set up confidential telephone hotlines, placed more mental health specialists on the battlefield, added training in stress management, invested more in research on mental health risk and taken other measures.
The Marines established a counseling service dubbed "DStress line," a toll-free number that troubled Marines can call anonymously. They also can use a Marine website to chat online anonymously with a counselor.
The Marines arguably have had the most success recently in lowering their suicide numbers, which are up slightly this year but are roughly in line with levels of the past four years. The Army's numbers also are up slightly. The Air Force has seen a spike, to 32 through June 3 compared to 23 at the same point last year. The Navy is slightly above its 10-year trend line but down a bit from 2011.
As part of its prevention strategy, the Navy has published a list of "truths" about suicide.
"Most suicidal people are not psychotic or insane," it says. "They might be upset, grief-stricken, depressed or despairing."
In a report published in January the Army said the true impact of its prevention programs is unknown.
"What is known is that all Army populations ... are under increased stress after a decade of war," it said, adding that if not for prevention efforts the Army's suicide totals might have been as much as four times as high.
Marine Sgt. Maj. Bryan Battaglia, the senior enlisted adviser to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recently issued a video message to all military members in which he noted that suicides "are sadly on the rise."
"From private to general, we shoulder an obligation to look and listen for signs and we stand ready to intervene and assist our follow service member or battle buddy in time of need," Battaglia said.
The suicide numbers began surging in 2006. They soared in 2009 and then leveled off before climbing again this year. The statistics include only active-duty troops, not veterans who returned to civilian life after fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan. Nor does the Pentagon's tally include non-mobilized National Guard or Reserve members.
The renewed surge in suicides has caught the attention of Defense Secretary Leon Panetta. Last month he sent an internal memo to the Pentagon's top civilian and military leaders in which he called suicide "one of the most complex and urgent problems" facing the Defense Department, according to a copy provided to the AP.
Panetta touched on one of the most sensitive aspects of the problem: the stigma associated seeking help for mental distress. This is particularly acute in the military.
"We must continue to fight to eliminate the stigma from those with post-traumatic stress and other mental health issues," Panetta wrote, adding that commanders "cannot tolerate any actions that belittle, haze, humiliate or ostracize any individual, especially those who require or are responsibly seeking professional services."
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AP broadcast correspondent Sagar Meghani contributed to this report.
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Online:
Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors: http://www.taps.org (http://www.taps.org)
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Robert Burns can be reached on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/robertburnsAP (http://www.twitter.com/robertburnsAP)
A ovaj baksuz?
Orlando man given George Zimmerman's cellphone number, gets death threats (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/orlando-man-given-george-zimmerman-cell-number-gets-131000364.html)
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Talk about an unlucky draw.
An Orlando, Fla., man says his life has been turned upside down since May 7, when T-Mobile reportedly assigned him the cellphone number formerly used by accused Florida gunman George Zimmerman (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=George+Zimmerman).
It's the same mobile number Zimmerman gave police dispatchers during the notorious 911 call moments before he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Trayvon+Martin) three months ago.
The 911 call (with Zimmerman heard spelling out the number) has since been widely circulated by the media and on the Internet.
The Orlando Sentinel reports (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/os-george-zimmerman-old-phone-number-20120606,0,990031.story) that Junior Alexander Guy, the man who inherited Zimmerman's old number, immediately started getting weird calls at all hours of the night.
"You murderer!"
"You deserve to die!"
Guy, who works at an Orlando wastewater plant, told the newspaper he got an estimated 70 threatening calls. He and his mother were forced to move out of their home.
"I was not only afraid for my life, I was afraid for my mother's," said Guy, a 49-year-old man who the newspaper reported has himself served prison time for drug trafficking.
By the ninth day, Guy said he'd had enough and turned the phone over to an attorney. His lawyer has reportedly been unsuccessful in seeking damages for his client, but T-Mobile did credit Guy's account and waived the early termination fee.
The old Zimmerman number, T-Mobile told the Sentinel (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/os-george-zimmerman-old-phone-number-20120606,0,990031.story), has now been retired.
Džozef Stiglic:
Они горе и они доле (http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Oni-gore-i-oni-dole.sr.html)
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На скуповима на којима промовише своју нову књигу, економиста Џозеф Стиглиц добија аплаузе и овације као да је рок или спортска звезда
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politika.co.rs%2Fuploads%2Frubrike%2F221824%2Fi%2F1%2FOTKRIVANJE-AMERIKE-stiglic-u-knjizari-002.jpg&hash=27638677444ea569b73bd573180526170db03348) Од нашег сталног дописника
Вашингтон – У популарну вашингтонску књижару "Политика и проза" у Конектикат авенији, у четвртак увече једва да је могло да се уђе: испуњен је био сваки сантиметар њеног не баш скромног простора.
Гост кога су пажљиво слушали посетиоци рекло би се свих генерација, повремено је прекидан громким овацијама и аплаузима, као да је нека рок звезда, а атмосфера је на моменте подсећала на политички митниг. У сваком случају, пажња са којом је праћено његово излагање није уобичајена – за једног економисту.
Те вечери о својој новој књизи чији је наслов "Цена нејаднакости: како данашње подељено друштво угрожава нашу будућност", говорио је Џозеф Стиглиц, професор Колумбија универзитета, нобеловац (2001.), један од најцитиранијих из своје бранше на свету, бивши главни економиста Светске банке и некадашњи шеф економских саветника председника Била Клинтона, а данас жестоки критичар "тржишног фундаментализма" и популарни тумач узрока светске кризе и планетарног неуспеха да се из ње изађе.
Тема његове нове књиге блиска је већини Американаца, јер је осећају на својој кожи. У њој Стиглиц вивисекцира пре свега данашњи амерички политички и економски систем, растерује идеолошке магле које прекривају националну дебату о генераторима и суштини кризе. При том поставља непријатне дијагнозе, од који је главна да је неједнакост постала системска и да ће земља, не одмакне ли се од ивице амбиса до којег је дошла, за то платити веома високу цену.
Главна његова теза је да тржиште, као главна економска сила, не функционише онако како тврде његови заговорници, да је политички систем "отет" и упрегнут да служи интересима богатих. "Америка је створила чудесну економску машинерију, али је очигледно да она данас служи само онима на врху", каже Стиглиц. "Капитализам не испоручије више оно шта је обећавао, већ само оно што није: неједнакости, загађење, незапосленост и, најважније од свега – деградацију вредности до тачке да је све прихватљиво, а нико није одговоран".
Суштина америчког проблема и главни изазивач неједнакости, која се огледа у томе да су у последње три деценије приходи 1 одсто најбогатијих енормно порасли, док су они већине Американаца стагнирали, па и опадали – јесте у процвату онога што Стиглиц назива "рентијерском економијом". Амерички милионери и милијардери се данас богате готово искључиво финансијским шпекулацијама и том процесу успевају да приграбе све већи део националног колача, а да тиме истовремено уопште не доприносе да се тај колач увећа.
Много је новца "горе", а премало "доле", објаснио је пред великим бројем људи у "Политици и прози" (а сутрадан сам га слушао и у много мањем друштву, у Центру за амерички прогрес) Стиглиц. Финансијски сектор у коме се све ово збива, обезбеђује највеће плате, па на Волстрит одлазе најталентованији дипломци са америчких универзитета, да би тамо манипулисали бројкама и смишљали високопрофитне финансијке преваре, уместо да своје знање и енергију усмере ка стварању нечега новог у технологији, чистој енергији и другим областима, ономе што ће да буде од користи свима и обнови америчку супериорност.
Пораст богатства оних са врха, каже Стиглиц, зато што их је тако мало, само један одсто, не повећава укупну економску тражњу, па тиме не доприноси повећању запослености. Навео је пример да је у марту ове године посао са пуним радним временом тражило 24 милиона Американаца, али га није налазило.
Указује и да је "амерички сан", претпоставка да сви овде имају подједнаке шансе, само ако су довољно вредни, вешти и упорни - све више само сан. "Истина је да Америка има најмању једнакост у почетним шансама. Изгледи оних са дна зависе од њиховог образовања, аобразовање им зависи од прихода родитеља. То значи да велики број Американаца не може да реализује своје потенцијале, што у крајњем исходу слаби нашу економију".
"Ја сам уверен и да садашњи ниво неједнакости слаби и нашу демократију. Стандардна теорија каже да су политичке одлуке у демократији средње решење између онога што тражи једна група и противљења тој мери друге. Код нас су међутим одлуке ближе жељама једне стране".
"Перцепције о нивоу неједнакости у САД обликоване су од стране оних који не желе да Американци схвате колико смо неједнаки. Улаже се велики напор да се Американци убеде да проблем не постоји, да смо још земља једнаких могућности за све".
"Ми у Америци данас имао милионе бескућника и у исто време милионе празних кућа".
Стиглиц затим констатује да политички систем, који се, куповином утицаја, претворио у мегафон богатих, смањује поверење у демократију и не слаби само економски систем, него и амерички глобални утицај.
"Кад се норме друштва мењају на начин да веома много људи губи морални компас, то говори нешто значајно о том друштву...Угрожен је и наш национални идентитет", суморно је, уз аплауз и усклике подршке, закључио говорник у књижари "Политика и проза".
Да би се ово променило, по њему је неопходна економска реформа, али пре ње неопходно је прво извршити ону политичку. "Проблем је међутим што смо у зачараном кругу: више економских неједнакости води ка већој политичкој неједнакости, која опет подстиче економске неједнакости".
Има ли наде?
"Оптимиста сам са дозом скептицизма", одговара на ово питање Стиглиц. Каже да је Америка већ била у оваквим ситуација, крајем 19. и почетком 20. века, као и уочи Велике депресије пре нешто више од 80 година. "Сваки пут кад смо схватили да смо на ивици, извршили смо корекције система: први пут то је било антимонополско законодавство, а други пут из кризе су нас извукли Њу дил и пакети социјалних закона... Оно чему се надам, јесте да ћемо схватити где смо сада, шта су последице тога која је цена коју плаћамо неједнакости и коју ћемо цену за то још платити ако останемо на истом колосеку, односно не почнемо да решавамо један од наших највећих проблема".
Милан Мишић објављено: 10.06.2012
A mogli ste i mene da citirate.
Nije te objavlila Politika pa nema odakle. A i nisi Nobelovac - sve to povlači jedno drugo.
Plus, Politika, a naročito ovaj Mišić iz Amerike, tendenciozno citiraju i hajpuju samo ovakve. Ne daj bože da predstave i drugačije mišljenje.
Jape, Jape, drugačija mišljenja su nam zatrovala život poslednjih 25 godina, a sad se polako otrežnjujemo.
Meho, ako ti je potrebno tuđe citiranje i Nobelove nagrade da bi shvatio šta jeste, a šta nije, slabo si se opsmenio.
Quote from: scallop on 10-06-2012, 16:06:23
Meho, ako ti je potrebno tuđe citiranje i Nobelove nagrade da bi shvatio šta jeste, a šta nije, slabo si se opsmenio.
Slabo, slabo. Ipak, u interesu javnosti, red je da se oslanjamo i na druge izvore mišljenja, ne samo na Scallopa. Mislim, naravno da "Scallop je tako rekao" ima najveću težinu na ovim prostorima, ali nije zgoreg pokazati i da laureat Nobelove nagrade za ekonomiju i jedan od najcenjenijih živih ekonomista ima mišljenje koje se podudara sa Skalopovim. Onda smo malo sigurniji!!!!!!!
Quote from: Father Jape on 10-06-2012, 15:09:11
Plus, Politika, a naročito ovaj Mišić iz Amerike, tendenciozno citiraju i hajpuju samo ovakve. Ne daj bože da predstave i drugačije mišljenje.
Da, pa, dobro, ovo je bila promocija knjige, ima povoda itd. Mada, naravno, naravno.
postoji li neki jevrejin koji nije uspeo u životu?
Isus Hristos.
Quote from: Alexdelarge on 10-06-2012, 23:54:06
postoji li neki jevrejin koji nije uspeo u životu?
Misliš osim onih šest miliona?
Jevreji su lepo odredili šta je to uspeh u životu, i onda kad to urade - uspeli su u životu :roll:
Evo još malo Skalopovog epigona, Džozefa Štiglica:
Cena nejednakosti (http://pescanik.net/2012/06/cena-nejednakosti/)
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Zašto esktremna nejednakost ne odgovara ni bogatima
Počnimo utvrđivanjem osnovne premise: nejednakost se u Americi širi već decenijama. Svi smo svesni činjenice. Da, postoje neki na desnici koji negiraju ovu stvarnost, ali ozbiljni analitičari širom političkog spektra to prihvataju kao nespornu činjenicu. Neću ovde izvoditi sve dokaze, izuzev što ću reći da je jaz između 1 posto i 99 posto ogroman kad u obzir uzmemo lična primanja, a još veći u širem smislu bogatstva, to jest, u smislu akumuliranog kapitala i druge imovine. Razmislite o porodici Volton: šest naslednika Volmart carstva poseduju zajednički bogatstvo od nekih 90 milijardi dolara, što je ekvivalentno onim s čim raspolaže 30 posto američkog društva na dnu. (Mnogi na dnu imaju nula ili negativnu neto vrednost, osobito nakon stambenog debakla.)
Voren Bafet je to tačno pisao kad je rekao: "U poslednjih 20 godina odvija se rat klasa i moja klasa je pobedila".
Dakle, rasprava se ne vodi oko te bazične činjenice da se nejednakost povećava. Debata se vodi oko toga šta to zapravo znači za društvo. Sa desnice povremeno čujete da je nejednakost zapravo dobra: uporedo sa povećanjem bogatstva bogatih, i ostali slojevi društva takođe se penju na lestvici bogatstva (dakle svi dobijaju). To je netačno: dok bogati Amerikanci postaju sve bogatiji, većina Amerikanaca, na samo oni na dnu, ne uspevaju da zadrže životni standard koji su imali, a kamoli da održe korak (sa tempom bogaćenja bogatih). Tipičan zaposleni muškarac danas zarađuje isto koliko je zarađivao jednu trećinu veka ranije.
S leva se u međuvremenu širenje nejednakosti vrlo često svodi na apele za jednostavnu pravdu: zašto bi manjina bogatih imala toliko mnogo kad toliko mnogo ljudi nema gotovo ništa? Nije teško videti zašto je to tako. U vremenu u kojem je tržište dominantna sila, a pravda samo jedno dobro koje se može kupiti i prodati takav argument (jednostavne pravde) lako se može obezvrediti tvrdnjom da je ovde reč samo o osećanju milosrđa.
Stavite osećanja na stranu. Postoje dobri razlozi zašto bi plutokrati trebalo da vode računa o nejednakosti - čak i ako pritom misle samo o sebi.
Bogati ne postoje u vakuumu. Njima treba društvo koje funkcioniše da bi održali svoju poziciju. Društva u kojima je nejednakost prevelika ne funkcionišu efikasno i njihove ekonomije nisu ni stabilne, niti održive. Dokazi koje nam daje istorija i iskustvo iz mnogih delova sveta danas, su nedvosmisleni: u nekom trenutku kad nejednakost dostigne neodrživi nivo započinje spiralno kretanje naniže – celo društvo klizi ka nefunkcionalnosti, a kad društvo postane disfunkcionalno, čak i bogati plaćaju visoku cenu takvog stanja.
Dopustite mi da izložim nekoliko razloga zašto je to tako.
Problem potrošnje
Kada neka interesna grupa ima previše moći, ona uspeva da nametne one politike koje povećavaju njenu moć na kratak rok, ali ako gledamo duži vremenski horizont, ne pomažu društvu. To je ono što se dogodilo u Americi kada je u pitanju politika poreza, regulatorna politika i politika javnih investicija. O tome šta su posledice kanalisanja ekonomskih dobitaka u prihode i ukupnu imovinu samo u jednom smeru lako je izvući zaključke ako razmotrimo prosečnu potrošnju jednog prosečnog domaćinstva, što je jedan od motora rasta američke ekonomije. Nije slučajno da su razdoblja u kojima je najveći broj Amerikanaca imao veći neto dohodak, dakle kada je nejednakost smanjivana (delom kao rezultat progresivnog oporezivanja), to istovremeno bili i periodi kada je američka ekonomija najviše rasla. Kao što nije slučajno da je sadašnjoj recesiji, poput Velike depresije, prethodilo veliko povećanje nejednakosti.
Kada se previše novca koncentriše na vrhu društva, prosečan Amerikanac počinje manje da troši, ili će prestati manje da troši u nedostatku nekog veštačkog podsticaja da to čini. Premeštanje novca od dna ka vrhu smanjuje ukupnu potrošnju jer bogate osobe potroše, kao deo svog bogatstva, manje nego što bi potrošili oni sa manjim primanjima (da je taj deo bogatstva prenesen na njih).
U našoj mašti, to ne izgleda uvek tako, jer je potrošnja bogatih veoma jasno vidljiva. Dovoljno je samo pogledati fotografije na poslednjim stranama Vol Strit Žurnala, i kuće koje se nude na prodaju. No, taj fenomen (da bogati troše manje nego što bi trošili siromašniji) počinje da zadobija smisao kad se malo pozabavite matematikom.
Razmislite o nekome ko je kao Mit Romni (predsednički kandidat republikanaca na predstojećim izborima), čiji je prihod u 2010. bio 21,7 miliona dolara. Čak i ako bi Romni odlučio da živi i mnogo raskalašnijim stilom, on bi u jednoj tipičnoj godini potrošio samo deo te sume za sopstveno i izdržavanje svoje žene i nekoliko njihovih kuća. Ali uzmite istu količinu novca i razdelite je na 500 ljudi, recimo, u obliku nekog prosečnog prihoda po radnom mestu od 43.400 dolara i videćete da će gotovo sav novac koji bude dobijen, biti i potrošen.
To je jednostavno tako i ništa tu zakonitost ne može izmeniti: što više novca ostaje koncentrisano na vrhu, to je agregatna tražnja više u padu. Osim ako se nešto drugo ne desi putem intervencije (redistribucije bogatstva), ukupna tražnja u privredi će biti manja od njene ponude, a to znači da će rasti nezaposlenost, a to će potom, u krug, dovesti do novog obaranja potrošnje. U 1990-ima se to ,,nešto drugo" (što je uticalo na redistribuciju) dogodilo u smislu sloma dot koma. U prvoj dekadi 21. veka, to je balon na tržištu nekretnina. Danas je jedini izlaz, usred duboke recesije, da se poveća državna potrošnja a to je upravo ono što bi oni na vrhu voleli da zaustave.
Rentni problem
Ovde moram da pribegnem malo ekonomskijem žargonu. Reč "najam/renta" je izvorno korišćena i još uvek jeste, da opiše prihod koji neko primi zauzvrat za korišćenje svoje zemlje – to je dakle povraćaj dobiti na temelju vlasništva, a ne na osnovu nečijeg rada ili proizvodnje. To je prihod po svojoj prirodi, sasvim drugačiji od plate koja podrazumeva naknadu za rad koji isporučuju radnici. Izraz "renta" je tokom vremena proširen i na sticanje monopolskih profita – dakle zarade koju neko ostvaruje samo zato što je u monopolskom položaju. S vremenom, značenje ,,rente" je dodatno prošireno na druge vrste vlasničkih potraživanja. Ako je vlada na primer dala nekoj firmi isključivo pravo za uvoz određene količine određene robe, kao što je šećer, ekstra zarada koju je ta firma dobijala zahvaljujući ovom ekskluzivnom pravu nazvana je kvotna renta.
Sticanje prava na neko rudno blago ili kopanje ruda je takođe oblik rente. Povlašćen poreski tretman za posebne interese takođe konstituiše ,,rentu". U širem smislu, "traženje rentnog dobitka" predstavlja način na koji mnogi na našoj političkoj sceni pomažu bogatima da se bogate na račun drugih, uključujući tu i transfere i subvencije iz budžeta i donošenje takvih zakona koji smanjuju konkurenciju na tržištu i omogućavaju direktorima velikih preduzeća da prisvoje disproporcionalno veći deo prihoda kompanije ili kompanijama da se bogate, uništavajući pritom životnu sredinu. Veličinu "korupcijske rente" u našoj ekonomiji teško je kvantifikovati, ali je sasvim jasno da je ona ogromna.
Pojedinci i korporacije koji imaju korist kao ,,uživaoci rente" bogato su nagrađeni. Finansijska industrija, koja sada u velikoj meri funkcioniše kao tržište spekulacija a ne kao oruđe za podsticanje stvarne produktivnosti u ekonomiji, je sektor ,,uživalaca rente" par excellence. Ova renta nadilazi samo područje spekulacije. Finansijski sektor takođe uživa rentni prihod na bazi svoje dominacije nad sredstvima za plaćanje – na primer preko ogromnih zelenaških taksi na debitne i kreditne kartice – a takođe i na bazi manje poznatih naknada koje naplaćuju trgovcima, a koje oni opet prenose na leđa kupaca.
Novac koji se isisava od srednje klase i siromašnih kroz predatorsko pozajmljivanje novca (kredite sa ekstremno visokim kamatama) takođe se može smatrati oblikom rente. Poslednjih godina, finansijski sektor je učestvovao sa 40 odsto u ukupnom profitu korporacija.
Ovi profiti nisu doprineli rastu ukupnog bogatstva, niti su ga bar delimično podstakli. Kriza je pokazala kako takvo ponašanje može da napravi pustoš u ekonomiji. U privredi u kojoj postoje mnogi ,,uživaoci rente" kao što je postala naša, privatni prihodi i prihodi društva nisu u međusobnoj vezi, naprotiv. U svom najjednostavnijem obliku, u ekonomiji u kojoj su dominantni ,,uživaoci rente" te rente ne predstavljaju ništa drugo nego redistribuciju jednog dela bogatstva društva, ,,uživaocima rente". Veliki deo nejednakosti u našem društvu je rezultat ove preraspodele kroz ,,rentu" koja faktički omogućava da se prihodi onih sa dna, redistribuiraju onima koji su na vrhu.
No, to ima i šire ekonomske konsekvence: borba za sticanje rente je u najboljem slučaju aktivnost sa nultim efektom. Traženje rente ne doprinosi rastu bilo čega. Nastojanja koja su usmerena na dobijanje većeg udela u kolaču ne utiču na veličinu kolača. I još gore od toga: postojanje rente iskrivljava alokaciju resursa i slabi privredu. To je centripetalna sila: napori onih koji bi želeli da postanu uživaoci rente je toliko jaka da se sve više energije usmerava na to, na račun svega ostalog. Zemlje bogate prirodnim resursima su najeklatantniji primeri društava u kojima su dominantni uživaoci rente. Mnogo je jednostavnije postati bogat na onim mestima gde neko sebi može da obezbedi eksploataciju nekih resursa, nego na onim mestima gde se profit može stvarati samo na osnovu proizvodnje roba i usluga koje su ljudima potrebne i povećavati produktivnost. To je razlog zbog kojeg su te ekonomije (sa velikim resursima) postigle malo iako rasplažu ogromnim bogatstvima. Lako je rugati i reći: Mi nismo Nigerija, nismo Kongo. Ali princip funkcionisanja renti je isti.
U nepravičnom društvu ljudi nisu zainteresovani ni da rade ni da glasaju (http://www.bifonline.rs/tekstovi/item.php?itemid=726&keywords=stiglic)
Ljudi nisu mašine. Da bi vredno radili, moraju da budu motivisani. Ako smatraju da su nepravedno tretirani, to ih teško može podstaknuti da rade više. To je jedno od ključnih pravila moderne ekonomije rada, sažete u tzv teoriji efikasnosti plata koja kaže da to kako preduzeća tretiraju svoje zaposlene – i između ostalog koliko ih pravično nagrađuju – utiče na produktivnost. Tu teoriju je pre gotovo čitavog veka razradio veliki ekonomista Alfred Maršal, koji navodi da je "visoko plaćeni rad najčešće i efikasan". Zaista ovo nije samo teorija, to je zaključak do koga se došlo na osnovu nebrojeno mnogo ekonomskih eksperimenata. I dok se ljudi uvek spore oko toga šta tačno znači ,,pravičan", postoji rastući osećaj u Americi da je trenutna razlika u prihodima, i način na koji se preraspodeljuje bogatstvo u celini, duboko nepravedno.
Niko ne spori bogatstvo onima koji su transformisali našu ekonomiju – pronalazačima kompjutera ili pionirima biotehnologije. No, izuzev nekolicine, to nisu ljudi koji su na vrhu piramide naših najbogatijih članova društva. Umesto toga, na tom mestu su ljudi koji su zahvaljujući tome što su uživaoci neke rente, na ovaj ili onaj način, dospeli na ovo mesto. I većini Amerikanaca, to se čini nepravednim.
Ljudi su bili iznenađeni kada je finansijska kuća MF Global, iznenada bankrotirala prošle godine, ostavljajući hiljade žrtava kao rezultat takvih poslovnih poteza zbog kojih će neke možda biti kvalifikovane i kao kriminal, ali imajući u vidu skoriju istoriju Vol Strita, sumnjam da bi ljudi bili iznenađeni da čuju da nekoliko rukovodilaca MF Global i dalje dobijaju svoje bonuse.
Kada direktori poduzeća tvrde da plate moraju biti smanjene ili da će morati da dođe do otpuštanja da bi firme mogle da budu konkurentne na tržištu, a istovremeno povećavaju svoje prihode, zaposleni s pravom smatraju da je to nepravično. To ima uticaja i na njihovo angažovanje na poslu, lojalnost preduzeću i njihovu spremnost da ulažu u budućnost takvog preduzeća. Raširen osećaj zaposlenih u Sovjetskom Savezu da su bili loše tretirani baš na takav način – da ih iskorišćavaju direktori koji žive na visokoj nozi, odigrao je veliku ulogu u stvaranju pukotina u sovjetskoj ekonomiji, i u konačnom raspadu te države. Kao što kaže jedan stari vic iz sovjetske ere: "Oni se pretvaraju da nas plaćaju, a mi se pretvaramo da radimo."
U društvu u kojem se nejednakost širi, pravičnost se ne tiče samo plata, dohotka i imovine. To je daleko šire rasprostranjeno osećanje. Da li ja imam učešća u tome na koji se način društvo razvija, ili ne? Da li i ja imam koristi od načina na koji se troši društveno bogatstvo, ili ne? Ako je odgovor glasno ,,ne", to onda vodi ka opadanju motivacije koja će se ekonomski osetiti u svim aspektima života društva.
Za Amerikance jedan ključni aspekt pravičnosti je mogućnost da svako ima svoju priliku da uspe: svako bi trebalo da ima svoju šansu da ostvari "američki san". Nešto od tog uverenja da svako može da se od dna popne na sam vrh je mit, ali statistika pokazuje jednu mnogo goru sliku: u Americi, izgledi da se neko popne na vrh, pa i u sredinu piramide, sa dna ili iz nižeg imovinskog stratuma su manji nego u bilo kojoj zemlji zapadne Evrope ili drugih razvijenih industrijskih zemalja.
Oni na vrhu u SAD, mogu smatrati više nego utešnim saznanje da su njihove šanse da sa vrha skliznu naniže u Americi znatno manje nego drugde u svetu.
Postoje mnogi troškovi nedostatka mobilnosti na gore. Veliki broj Amerikanaca ne živi u skladu sa svojim potencijalnim mogućnostima, i zato gubimo naše najveće dobro, talenat. Uporedo sa tim što polako razumevamo šta nam se događa, doći će do erozije identiteta, odnosno načina na koji Ameriku vidimo kao jednu zemlju koja neguje pravičnost. To će imati svoje direktne ekonomske posledice, ali i one indirektne, a to je slabljenje onih veza koje nas povezuju kao naciju.
Problem nepoverenja
Jedna od zagonetki moderne političke ekonomije je zašto bi se neko uopšte trudio da glasa. Vrlo malo ljudi se na izborima pojavljuje tek tako. Postoji trošak glasanja – nijedna država ne kažnjava one koji ostanu kod kuće, ali treba i vremena i truda da se na izbore izađe i od toga izgleda kao da nikad nema koristi. Moderna politička i ekonomska teorija pretpostavljaju postojanje racionalnih, lično zainteresovanih aktera.
Na temelju toga, velika je misterija zašto bilo ko glasa. Odgovor je da smo bili zavedeni pojmovima "građanske vrline." Imamo odgovornost da glasamo. No, osećanje građanske vrline je krhko. Ako postoji uverenje da je politički i ekonomski sistem zakrečen, pojedinci će se vrlo brzo smatrati oslobođenim obaveze glasanja. Kada se taj društveni ugovor naruši, kad poverenje između vlade i njenih građana oslabi, razočaranje, neangažovanje i još gore od toga će ubrzo uslediti. U Sjedinjenim Državama danas, i u mnogim drugim demokratskim državama u svetu, nepoverenje je rašireno osećanje.
Štaviše ugrađeno je u takva društva. Lojd Blenkflin, prvi čovek Goldman Saksa, je to perfektno sročio: sofisticirani investitori ne oslanjaju se, ili barem ne bi trebalo da se oslanjaju na poverenje. Oni koji su kupili proizvode njegove banke dali su pristanak odraslih osoba koji je trebalo da znaju šta kupuju a ne da se oslanjaju na nečiju reč. Oni bi trebalo da znaju da Goldman Saks ima i sredstava i načina i motiva da stvori takve proizvode koji mogu da propadnu (da budu veoma rizični po investitore) ali da istovremeno zadrže asimetriju informacije – odnosno da te rizike sakriju od investitora i to njihovo neznanje iskoriste. Ljudi koji su pali kao žrtve investicionih banaka su uglavnom, dobro situirani investitori. Ali skrivanje troškova kreditnih kartica i kredita koji imaju troškove napisane sitnim slovima su kod prosečnih Amerikanaca ostavili uverenje da bankama ne treba verovati.
Ekonomisti često podcenjuju ulogu koju poverenje ima na funkcionisanje ekonomije. Ako osnova svakog ugovora treba da bude to što njegovo ispunjenje garantuje sud (u slučaju spora) onda to predstavlja veliku prepreku za normalno funkcionisanje ekonomskog života. Kroz istoriju, ekonomije koje su cvetale bile su one gde su ugovori garantovani jednim stiskom ruke u znak zaključenog posla. Bez poverenja, poslovni dogovori postignuti na bazi zajedničkog razumevanja da će složene pojedinosti biti stvar kasnijih pregovora, nisu više moguće. Bez poverenja, svaki učesnik bavi se razmišljanjem i istraživanjem da li će ga onaj drugi izneveriti.
Zašto je dobro biti sebičan
Širenje nejednakosti nagriza poverenje: u ekonomskom smislu, to je kao neka vrsta univerzalne sode koja rastače ekonomsko tkivo. To stvara jedno ekonomsko okruženje u kome su čak i pobednici oprezni. A tek gubitnici! U svakoj transakciji, u svakom susretu sa šefom ili poslovnim čovekom ili birokratom – oni vide ruku nekoga ko želi da ih iskoristi. Nigde poverenje nije važnije nego u politici i u javnoj sferi. Tu moramo delovati zajedno. Lakše je delovati zajedno kada je većina ljudi u sličnim situacijama, kada je većina od nas, ako ne u istom brodu, barem u čamcima uporedive veličine. Ali sa rastućom nejednakosti jasno da naša flota izgleda drugačije – tu je nekoliko mega-jahti okruženih masom ljudi u kanuima, i onih koji se drže za ogradu čamca što je dobra vizuelizacija naše situacije i može da nam pomogne da razumemo zašto se naše ideje oko toga šta bi vlada trebalo da uradi toliko razlikuju.
Današnje širenje nejednakosti proteže na gotovo sve – policijsku zaštitu, stanje lokalnih puteva i komunalnih usluga, pristup pristojnoj zdravstvenoj zaštiti i dobrim školama. Što visoko obrazovanje postaje važnije, ne samo za pojedince nego i za budućnost cele američke privrede, oni na vrhu sve više pritiskaju da se na jednoj strani, budžeti univerziteta smanjuju a školarina povećava, a na drugoj smanjuju zajmovi za studiranje.
Kad se zalažu za kredite, oni u stvari žele još jedan prostor za rentnu naknadu: kredite za škole koje posluju na bazi profita, bez standarda, kredite koji se ne mogu razvrgnuti čak i u slučaju bankrota, kredite osmišljene tako da predstavljaju još jedan način za one na vrhu da eksploatišu one koji bi želeli da se izdignu sa dna.
Rešenje ,,biti sebičan"
Mnogi, ako ne i većina Amerikanaca poseduju ograničeno razumevanje prirode nejednakosti u našem društvu. Oni znaju da je nešto krenulo kako ne treba, ali potcenjuju štetu koju nanosi nejednakost jednako koliko precenjuju troškove preduzimanja akcije. Ta pogrešna uverenja, koja su osnažena ideološkom retorikom imaju katastrofalan učinak na politiku i ekonomske politike.
Ne postoji dobar razlog zašto bi 1 posto, sa svojim dobrim obrazovanjem, svojim redovima savetnika, i tako hvaljenim poslovnim sposobnostima, trebalo da bude toliko dezinformisan. Jedan posto u prošlim generacijama bio je mudriji. Znali su da ne bi bilo vrha piramide da nije bilo čvrste baze, i da bi njihova vlastita situacija bila ugrožena ako društvo nije bilo na stabilnim nogama.
Henri Ford, koji u istoriji nije zapamćen kao jedan od mekših karaktera, shvatio je da je najbolje što može da učini za sebe i svoju firmu da radnicima plati dobru platu, jer je želeo da oni budu vredni i da budu u stanju da kupe njegova kola.
Franklin D. Ruzvelt, čistokrvni pripadnik visoke klase, znao je da je jedini način da suštinski sačuva kapitalističku Ameriku, da proširi blagostanje, kroz oporezivanje i socijane programe, i da kapitalizmu stavi uzde kroz regulaciju.
Ruzvelt i ekonomista Džon Majnard Kejnz, koje su kapitalisti kritikovali, uspeli su da sačuvaju kapitalizam od kapitalista. Ričard Nikson, danas poznat kao manipulativni cinik, zaključio je da socijalni mir i ekonomska stabilnost na najbolji način mogu da osiguraju investicije, i zato i jeste investirao i to mnogo u Mediker (program zdravstvene zaštite), Head Start (program koji omogućava siromašnijima pravo na školovanje, zdravstvenu zaštitu i dr), i u očuvanje životne sredine. Nikson je čak lansirao ideju zagarantovanog godišnjeg prihoda.
Dakle, savet koji bih dao onom jednom procentu bogatih danas bio bi: očvrsnite svoje srce. Kada vas neko pozove da razmislite o smanjivanju nejednakosti – kroz povećanje poreza i investiranje u obrazovanje, javne radove, zdravstvenu zaštitu i nauku – ostavite svako latentno osećanje altruizma na stranu i skoncentrišite se samo na vlastiti interes. Nemojte ove ideje prihvatiti zato što pomažu drugim ljudima. Učinite to zbog sebe.
Džozef Štiglic, odlomak iz knjige The Price of Inequality: How Today's Divided Society Endangers Our Future, W. W. Norton & Company, jun 2012.
Bifonline, 07 (http://www.bifonline.rs/tekstovi/item.php?itemid=725&keywords=stiglic), 08. (http://www.bifonline.rs/tekstovi/item.php?itemid=726&keywords=stiglic) i 09. (http://www.bifonline.rs/tekstovi/item.php?itemid=729&keywords=stiglic)06.2012.
Peščanik.net, 09.06.2012.
Pre nego što se prepustim procenjivanju da li si samo zloban ili si u tekstu uočio ono na šta godinama pokušavam da skrenem pažnju, da zaključim da sam ja Štiglicov tekst pročitao, što neće učiniti 98% ljudi na Sagiti. To znači da i dalje spadam u one kojima je jasno, a da će većina spadati u one kojima nije jasno, pa je tako bezvredno ukazivati na ovaj tekst. To je kao sa onih 1% bogatih u SAD koji ne vide da su problemi onih 99% zapravo njihovi problemi.
Ako bi već na nešto trebalo skrenuti pažnju, onda je to činjenica da Štiglic upozorava i obrazlaže sve ono na šta sam ja upozoravao. Da ga, kao i većinu današnjih kritičara neoliberalnog globalnog sistema, nismo čuli u vreme neumerenog rasta finansijske dominacije banaka, čitavih 30 godina, a da se javlja u vreme kad i najveći finansijski lopov Soroš prestaje da trlja prste, nego se njima hvata za glavu. Nije valjda da najbogatiji treba da najebu da bi shvatili kako su sve ujebali.
Danas sam u jednom razgovoru napomenuo kako su svi dosadašnji ekonomski recepti bili kao dobar sir; nikako da zapazimo da se njihova plivlačnost zasniva na količini rupa.
Ako je zloba to da citiram cenjenog nobelovca da podvučemo neke od tvojih ranijih izjava i podučavanja, šaleći se nedužno pritom, onda sam svakako zloban!!!!!!!!1
Meho, mnogo ti vrdaš i tamo gde ne treba vrdanja. Svakako da je jasno da ja nisam nikakav ekonomista, pa da treba neko da podcrtava moja "podučavanja". Nisam ni kejnzijanac, pa da trijumfujem u debaklu hajekovaca. Ja sam samo jedan od onih koji su se prepoznali u zakasnelom publicitetu onih koji se bave kritikom sadašnjeg modela. Trebalo je da obratiš pažnju na moju metaforu o rupama u siru, jer se, zapravo, o tome radi. Ima to neke veze sa onom, kad se već citiraju sovjeti: "Uništiće nas dripci iz sopstvenih redova." Ili tako nekako, jer ja ne guglam kad pišem ono šta mislim. Kao što je kejnzijanstvo uništio društveni sistem koji je model trebalo da sprovede, tako i hajekovština propada nagrižena od onih koji su trebali da je podrže. Eto, sad će da izvuku špansku banku na suvo, umesto da joj ukinu pravo na kockanje sa čitavim stanovništvom Španije. Ne zaboravi da se bankarski sistem pretvorio u parazitski sistem koji ne stvara ništa, osim što isisava deo onoga što uspe da se stvori. On mora da se vrati onome čemu je namenjen - da podstiče, a ne da cedi.
Quote from: scallop on 12-06-2012, 18:30:25Ne zaboravi da se bankarski sistem pretvorio u parazitski sistem koji ne stvara ništa
bankarski sistem je oduvijek bio parazitski sistem koji ne stvara ništa, on je parazitski po definiciji. Ne ulazim uopšte u to da li je taj sistem dobar ili loš, on je po opštoj definiciji parazitski, a ima i dobrih i loših parazita.
Poenta je što su organizmi kojima je taj sistem krv pio proizvodili više krvi, oni su stvarali a ne bankarski sistem
a sad su i oni lipsali
P.S. Vidjeću da li ću biti u tih famoznih 2% čitalaca 8-)
Sad ćemo o lošim i dobrim parazitima. Bože me sačuvaj te vaše nauke! Pa, "definicije", pa onda "opšte definicije". Alo, bre, pa pozajmljuje se i zelenaši od trenutka kad je počela razmena tante za kukuriku, o pojavi novca da i ne govorimo. Ali, taj posao nikad ne bi postao uspešan da mu je princip bio zasnovan isključivo na laži i prevari kao danas. Pročitaj, ipak, taj tekst. Danas je postalo legitimno, vrh uspešnosti u biznisu navući nekoga na pogrešno ulaganje.
Zelenašenje radi sasvim prosto
1. da pare
2. i onda dobije te pare nazad sa kamatom
Dakle, pare + vrijeme = zarada
Zelenaš, dakle, parazitira na vremenu, iako vrijeme nije njegovo. Dakle, zelenašenje se bazira na laži i prevari od početka. Naravno, zavisi od toga da li su laži i prevare unaprijed loše.
Mogao bih ja tebi i da objasnim, da sam ikada kod tebe osetio volju da ti nešto bude objašnjeno. Ovako je bezveze. Nadao sam se da postoji neko drugi ko želi da mu bude objašnjeno.
Slobodno objašnjavaj, ali poslušaj tvoju mezimicu D. jer ja nisam izmislio da zelenaš parazitira ne vremenu već sam to ukrao od pametnijeg od sebe.
Nažalost, ovde nije u igri tvoj model zelenašenja, nego model po kome ti pod pomenutim uslovima dobiješ zajam, ali je zelenaš prethodno obezbedio da ne možeš da vratiš dug o roku, a garantovao si imovinom. To se onda pretvara u ciljanu prevaru, jer obično zelenašenje obezbeđuje prihod, a prevarom se obezbeđuje - profit. E, tu je problem. Bankarski kapital više ne igra na zaradu nego na profit. To šta si pozajmio od pametnijeg - uvenulo.
Je li Boga ti, pa evo da te poduči i Bata malo srpskom jeziku
Profit (riječ iz francuskog jezika) - dobit, zarada, korist.
из Речника страних речи и израза
EDIT:
earnings
Synonyms: balance, bottom line, emolument, gain, gate, groceries, in the black, income, lucre, net, pay, payoff, piece of the pie, proceeds, profit, receipts, remuneration, return, revenue, reward, salary, salt, stipend, take-home, takings, wages
http://thesaurus.com/browse/earnings (http://thesaurus.com/browse/earnings)
Jesi li ti ekonomista ili filozof? Ako si ekonomista, onda čitaš pogrešne knjige. Ako si filozof šta se petljaš u ekonomiju? Znao sam ja da je stipendija ustvari (po tvojim izvorima) profit. :-D :-D :-D
A stipend is a form of salary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipend (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipend)
A stipend is a fixed pay, salary; retribution for work done
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14296a.htm (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14296a.htm)
A fixed and regular payment, such as a salary for services rendered or an allowance.
http://www.answers.com/topic/stipend (http://www.answers.com/topic/stipend)
Vidiš, ovako svaki dan nešto možeš da naučiš od Bate, kada bi iskreno želio da ti nešto bude objašnjeno.
Inače, naravno da je najpodlije potpuno promeniti temu, ali to valjda već znaš.
Nemoj samo da sa tom pričom izađeš pred nekog stručnog prevodioca. Ima da se upiša od smeha. Naravno, ti menjaš temu, a ja - šta ću. Volim kad me tako podučavaju. I ja volim da se smejem.
Možda ovo što sad pričam nije ništa novo, ali jeste meni, jer sam se upravo toga dosetio. Ja bih da mi, onako revolucionarno, redefinišemo vlasništvo novca. Trenutno je uvreženo verovanje da novac pripada onome ko ga trenutno poseduje. To nije sasvim tačno, jer je recimo novac zabranjeno uništavati, stoga novac ne pripada 100% onome ko ga trenutno drži. Ono što bih ja predložio je da promenimo taj sistem, i da kažemo da novac pripada onome ko ga štampa i garantuje za njegovu vrednost, a da ga mi ostali samo koristimo. Kada se naš stav prema novcu ovako promeni onda više smisla ima svaki korak koji država može da preduzme da zaštiti ne samo vrednost, nego i protok novca, to jest ekonomiju. U tom novom sistemu ne bi bilo mesta onog ko stiče višak vrednosti samo zato što ima početno bogatstvo. Država bi bila slobodna da spreči takvo ponašanje i time zaštiti svoju ekonomiju.
Mac, problem je u rupi u siru. Onda neko, gomile njih, u toj državnoj kontroli nađe rupu za sebe. Kvarni smo, pa to ti je. Preterana državna kontrola je i dovela do ovog šta sad imamo. Nađi šta znači stagflacija i biće ti jasno.
Quote from: scallop on 12-06-2012, 23:34:53
Nemoj samo da sa tom pričom izađeš pred nekog stručnog prevodioca. Ima da se upiša od smeha. Naravno, ti menjaš temu, a ja - šta ću. Volim kad me tako podučavaju. I ja volim da se smejem.
Ja sam spomenuo stipendiju i tako promijenio temu?
Molim lijepo, rekao si da je došlo do transformacije bankarstva od dobrog ka lošem, međutim ja sam ukazao da promjene u kvalitetu nema, kvantitet ne može da proizvede kvalitet, gramzivost je upisana u zelenaštvo od godine nulte.
Tu još i nisi mijenjao temu nego si sasvim naivno počeo da se sprdaš sa opštim definicijama, što je u stvari kardinalna greška, pošto su opšti pojmovi često i heuristički pojmovi, dakle oni u startu mogu da prognoziraju fenomenologiju zelenaškog (i svakog drugog) duha od ''zarade'' do ''(ekstra)profita'', jer razlika je kvantitativna i možeš da se upinješ do prekosutra da je predstaviš kao kvalitativnu i svaki put će biti cvrc Milojka.
Upisano po definiciji i to su racionalni ljudi znali i prije 500 godina, kao što su znali da aristotelovska struja u vizantijskom sporu iz 11. vijeka o sozercanju vodi u ateizam. Najznačajniji predstavnik aristotelovske struje potom je otišao na Zapad and the rest is history. On sam nije znao da je začeo ateističku klicu, kao što to nije znao ni Kepler, pa neće ni zelenaš.
Hoćeš da izmisliš nekakav diskontinuitet u zelenaštvu, pa nađi ga prvo u fizici, čovječe, nađi prazno mjesto i prazan hod i uništivu materiju.
Uz dovoljno vremena i zelenaši će shvatiti u čemu greše. I evolucija je eksperimentisala i odbacivala svoje neuspehe, pa što ne bi i ljudi.
Idi, bre, Bato. Nisam ja pomenuo stipendiju nego ti, kao što se sada hvataš Aristotela, Vizantije i nastanka ateizma, sam Bog zna čega još. Ja sam pisao o rupama u siru, o Lenjinovim maksimama, a ti si se ubacio da očitaš lekciju o svojoj veličini, koju ne možemo da spoznamo u tvojoj anonimnostgi na forumu.
da, da, koje su ovo logičke vratolomije, ja sam sa drugog sajta prekopirao niz sinonima, među kojima se nalazi dokaz da su zarada i profit jedno te isto, ali važno je da si ti doktor trolovanja koji i dalje ne može da prizna da je izmislio razliku između zarade i profita
ti misliš da je to tvoja analitička pronicljivost a u stvari si lupio i ostao živ.
Imaš molekul vode, ti si ga podijelio na vodonik i kiseonik, istraživao ta dva atoma i otkrio da vodonik gori a kiseonik pospješuje gorenje. I onda si zaključio da je voda zapaljiv materijal, kao i svaki grešnik analitike. E tako si podijelio i zaradu i profit i izmislio pošteno bankarstvo. Da l' zna vo šta je H2O!
Niđe H2O u tvojoj priči, slušam samo vodonik i kiseonik. A to ne može biti ni dobo ni istinito.
Nauči prvo da koristiš analitički metod pa se javi.
Pokušaj da na wikiju nađeš ekonomske interpretacije profita, a ne rečnike približnih sinonima. Ali, to je zadatak za odrasle i radoznale. Sa druge strane, zanimljivo je da si u svojoj površnosti gotovo nabo suštinu igre sa vodom. Pogledaj na wikiju pod - gorivni spreg.
to je zato što je moja površnost veoma suštinska
i najrazvijenije teorije pate od viška analitike, mogu vrhunski ekonomisti da izmisle razliku između zarade i profita ali nje suštinski nema, nema je na semiotičkom i filozofskom nivou, a to znači da je Bogotac rekao da razlike nema. Ekonomija je prdnjava u čabar u odnosu na semiotiku.
problem je što su oni izmislili sistem koji zavisi od viška, koji se drogira, a onda je potrebna razlika između prihoda i rashoda koja se zove zarada ili profit. Nema zarade i nema profita ako prihodi nisu veći od rashoda.
Ako smo završili sa ovom raspravom, evo dalje priče na sličnu temu. Rubini je neko ko zna mnogo toga:
Berlin Is Ignoring the Lessons of the 1930s (http://www.economonitor.com/nouriel/2012/06/11/berlin-is-ignoring-the-lessons-of-the-1930s/?utm_source=contactology&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EconoMonitor%20Highlights%3A%20Spanish%20Bailout%2C%20Eyes%20on%20Italy%2C%20Meaning%20of%20Globalization)
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From the Financial Times (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/c49b69d8-b187-11e1-bbf9-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1xVEzpNd4) (originally published on June 8, 2012):
Is it one minute to midnight in Europe?
We fear that the German government's policy (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/18ca1e80-6455-11e1-b50e-00144feabdc0.html) of doing "too little too late" risks a repeat of precisely the crisis of the mid-20th century that European integration was designed to avoid.
We find it extraordinary that it should be Germany, of all countries, that is failing to learn from history. Fixated on the non-threat of inflation, today's Germans appear to attach more importance to 1923 (the year of hyperinflation) than to 1933 (the year democracy died). They would do well to remember how a European banking crisis two years before 1933 contributed directly to the breakdown of democracy not just in their own country but right across the European continent.
We have warned for more than three years that continental Europe needs to clean up its banks' woeful balance sheets. Next to nothing has been done. In the meantime, a silent run on the banks of the eurozone periphery has been under way for two years now: cross-border, interbank and wholesale funding has rolled off and been substituted with European Central Bank financing (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ef5a1dc-ab1c-11e1-b675-00144feabdc0.html); and "smart money" – large uninsured deposits of wealthy individuals – has quietly departed Greek and other "Club Med" banks.
But now the public is finally losing faith and the silent run may spread to smaller insured deposits. Indeed, if Greece were to leave the eurozone, a deposit freeze would occur and euro deposits would be converted into new drachmas: so a euro in a Greek bank really is not equivalent to a euro in a German bank. Greeks have withdrawn more than €700m from their banks in the past month.
More worryingly, there was also a surge in withdrawals from some Spanish banks last month. The government's bungled bailout of Bankia has only heightened public anxiety. On a recent visit to Barcelona, one of us was repeatedly asked if it was safe to leave money in a Spanish bank. This kind of process is potentially explosive. What today is a leisurely "bank jog" could easily become a sprint for the exits. In the event of a Greek exit (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/175fcc8c-9b7f-11e1-8b36-00144feabdc0.html), rational people would ask: who is next?
The way out of this crisis seems clear. First, there needs to be a programme of direct recapitalisation – via preferred non-voting shares – of eurozone banks, in the periphery and the core, by the European Financial Stability Facility and its successor, the European Stability Mechanism.
The current approach of recapitalising the banks by the sovereigns borrowing from domestic bond markets – and/or the EFSF – has been a disaster in Ireland and Greece: it has led to a surge of public debt and made the sovereign even more insolvent while making banks more risky as an increasing amount of the debt is in their hands.
Second, to avoid a run on eurozone banks (http://blogs.ft.com/gavyndavies/2012/05/20/the-anatomy-of-the-eurozone-bank-run/) – a certainty in the case of a Greek exit and likely in any case – an EU-wide system of deposit insurance needs to be created.
To reduce moral hazard (and the equity and credit risk taken by eurozone taxpayers), several additional measures should also be implemented.
The deposit insurance scheme has to be funded by appropriate bank levies: this could be a financial transaction tax or, better, a charge on all bank liabilities.
There needs to be a bank resolution scheme in which unsecured creditors of banks – both junior and senior – would take a hit before taxpayer money is used.
Measures to limit the size of banks to avoid the too-big-to-fail problem need to be taken.
We also favour an EU-wide system of supervision and regulation.
It is true that European-wide deposit insurance will not work if there is a continued risk of a country leaving the eurozone. Guaranteeing deposits in euros would be expensive as the departing country would need to convert all euro claims into a national currency, which would swiftly depreciate against the euro. On the other hand, a deposit insurance scheme that holds only if a country doesn't leave will be incapable of stopping a bank run. So, more needs to be done to reduce the probability of eurozone exits.
Structural reforms that boost productivity growth should be accelerated. And economic growth needs to be jump-started. The policies to achieve this include further monetary easing by the ECB (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f53273ae-aff5-11e1-ad0b-00144feabdc0.html), a weaker euro, some fiscal stimulus in the core, more bottleneck-reducing and supply-stimulating infrastructure spending in the periphery (preferably with some kind of "golden rule" for public investment), and wage increases above productivity in the core to boost income and consumption.
Finally, given the unsustainably high public debts and borrowing costs of certain member states, we see no alternative to some kind of debt mutualisation.
There are currently a number of different proposals for eurozone bonds. Among them, the German Council of Economic Advisers' proposal for a European redemption fund is to be preferred – not because it is optimal but because it is the only one that can assuage German concerns about taking on too much credit risk.
The ERF is a temporary programme that does not lead to permanent eurozone bonds. It is supported by appropriate collateral and seniority for the fund and has strong conditionality. The main risk is that any proposal acceptable to Germany would imply such a loss of sovereignty over fiscal policy that it would be unacceptable to the periphery, particularly Italy and Spain. Giving up some sovereignty is inevitable. However, there is a difference between federalism and "neo-colonialism" – as a senior figure put it to us at a meeting of the Nicolas Berggruen Institute in Rome.
Until recently, the German position has been relentlessly negative on all such proposals. We understand German concerns about moral hazard. Putting German taxpayers' money on the line will be hard to justify if meaningful reforms do not materialise on the periphery. But such reforms are bound to take time. Structural reform of the German labour market was hardly an overnight success. By contrast, the European banking crisis is a real hazard that could escalate in days.
Germans must understand that bank recapitalisation, European deposit insurance and debt mutualisation are not optional; they are essential to avoid an irreversible disintegration of Europe's monetary union. If they are still not convinced, they must understand that the costs of a eurozone break-up would be astronomically high – for themselves as much as anyone.
After all, Germany's prosperity is in large measure a consequence of monetary union. The euro has given German exporters a far more competitive exchange rate than the old Deutschmark would have. And the rest of the eurozone remains the destination for 42 per cent of German exports. Plunging half of that market into a new Depression can hardly be good for Germany.
Ultimately, as Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, herself acknowledged last week, monetary union always implied further integration into a fiscal and political union (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/725ec0bc-b091-11e1-8b36-00144feabdc0.html). But before Europe gets anywhere near taking this historical step, it must first of all show it has learnt the lessons of the past. The EU was created to avoid repeating the disasters of the 1930s. It is time Europe's leaders – and especially Germany's – understood how perilously close they are to doing just that.
A šta drugo prosečan Čivutin da radi neg da pljune Nemce.
Nije ovaj baš toliko prosečan i nije ih baš napljuvao paušalno. Ali nekako sam očekivao ovakav komentar s tvoje strane jer ipak Nemci su skoro pa Austrijanci a njih ne daš :lol:
Ah da, nije prosečan, od onih je Ahmadinedžadu najdražih :lol:
Умро Родни Кинг, "не зна се" зашто. :lol:
По изјавама пандура, Родни је ономад био на пи-си-пију и насрнуо је на њих, па су га мало доводили у ред. Онда је било шта је било, јадни црнци су искаљивали свој нагомилани бес због ропства на белим камионџијама и провидним излозима. Али то је ипак Америка, јер да је Србија, још би одјекивао ехо локалног празилука о томе какви смо примитивци. Овако - све је у реду, мртви, повређени, радње попаљене и попљачкане, нема везе.
Е сад, Родни је и после вишемилионске одштете наставио да се понаша као мамлаз, десетак је пута апшен због којечега и сад се гистро случајно удавио у свом базену. Оно, кажу да је мало пио и дуво пре купања, али то му је вероватно од стреса.
Ако неко жели да прочита коју агенцијску лаж вест о овоме, то јест не верује мени, нека гугла или шта већ. 8)
Quote from: Бата Животиња on 13-06-2012, 12:25:41
to je zato što je moja površnost veoma suštinska
xrofl xrofl xrofl
joj, još kad bi mi objasnila šta je smiješno a da jopet ne ispadneš poluobrazovani polučovjek, bilo bi super
Grci su poznati po tome što su bili površni. Ko je površan nije licemjeran, what you see is what you get. Kolijevka filozofije i civilizacije. Nema laži i nema prevare, tako da znam da ti nisi površna, ne mogu monstrumi i tupani da budu površni.
Eh, Ameriko...
Obama's 'kill list' is unchecked presidential power (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-kill-list-is-unchecked-presidential-power/2012/06/11/gJQAHw05WV_story.html)
QuoteA stunning report in the New York Times depicted (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?pagewanted=all) President Obama poring over the equivalent of terrorist baseball cards, deciding who on a "kill list" would be targeted for elimination by drone attack. The revelations — as well as those in Daniel Klaidman (http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/05/27/drones-the-silent-killers.html)'s recent book (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0547547897?ie=UTF8&tag=slatmaga-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=0547547897) — sparked public outrage and calls for congressional inquiry. Yet bizarrely, the fury is targeted at the messengers, not the message. Sen. John McCain (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/john-mccain-wants-special-counsel-to-investigate-national-security-leaks/2012/06/05/gJQAZU4kGV_blog.html) (R-Ariz.) expressed dismay that presidential aides were leaking national security information to bolster the president's foreign policy credentials. (Shocking? Think gambling, Casablanca). Republican and Democratic senators joined in condemning the leaks. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. — AWOL in the prosecution of rampant bank fraud — roused himself to name two prosecutors (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/leak-probes-risks-for-administration-depend-on-two-veteran-prosecutors/2012/06/10/gJQANDLFTV_story.html) to track down the leakers. Please. Al-Qaeda knows that U.S. drones are hunting them. The Pakistanis, Yemenis, Somalis, Afghanis and others know the U.S. is behind the drones that strike suddenly from above. The only people aided by these revelations are the American people who have an overriding right and need to know. The problem isn't the leaks, it's the policy. It's the assertion of a presidential prerogative that the administration can target for death people it decides are terrorists — even American citizens (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/aulaqi-incited-young-muslims-to-attacks-against-west/2011/09/30/gIQACMaKAL_story.html) — anywhere in the world, at any time, on secret evidence with no review. It is a policy driven largely by the new technological capacity of pilotless aircraft. Drone strikes have rapidly expanded, becoming a centerpiece of the Obama strategy. Over the last three years, the Obama administration has carried out at least 239 covert drone strikes (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/02/27/the_obama_doctrine), more than five times the 44 approved under George W. Bush. Drones are enormously seductive and widely popular. Video games made real, they are relatively cheap, risk no U.S. casualties, claim to be exactly targeted and, according to the administration, have been lethal in eliminating al-Qaeda's operatives. As Adm. Dennis Blair (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/dennis_c_blair/index.html), former director of national intelligence for the Obama administration before being pushed out, notes, (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?pagewanted=8&%2359&_r=2&%2359;pagewanted=all) "It plays well domestically and it is unpopular only in other countries. Any damage it does to the national interest only shows up over the long term." Drones are also alarming. As a recent congressional letter of inquiry (http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/Drones_Dear_Colleague_05312012.pdf) notes, "They are faceless ambassadors that cause civilian deaths . . . They can generate powerful and enduring anti-American sentiment." The drone attacks may generate as many terrorists as they dispatch. They seduce the U.S. into literally policing the world, an intrusive presence that surely will generate hostility and retribution. Moreover, the president's claim offends the spirit and letter of the Constitution and shreds the global laws of war. Our founders were eager to curb the prerogative of kings to wage war and foreign adventures. That is why the Constitution gave Congress the power to declare war. Yet the president now claims the right (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/books/review/21BAZELON.html) to attack anywhere in the world in an apparently endless war against terrorism.
The argument, of course, is that we are at war with al-Qaeda's terrorists — one that Congress authorized — and thus the president is free to track them down and attack them anywhere in the world, even if they are American citizens. To enforce this, the U.S. has Special Operations forces in some 60 to 75 countries (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/03/AR2010060304965.html) and has unleashed drones (http://www.thenation.com/blog/obamas-expanding-covert-wars#) in at least five.
The administration is at pains to suggest that no one is targeted for death until after extensive review, internal checks and balances and administrative "due process" of a sort. But this rationale is refuted by what we know from the administration's own limited releases of information. Officials distinguish between (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304723304577366251852418174.html) "personality strikes" — which are targeted at named operatives — and "signature strikes" — which are triggered by evidence of allegedly threatening activity by unidentified persons. Not surprisingly, the latter have been notorious for the "collateral damage" — innocent civilians — who have been casualties.
Most Americans support (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-finds-broad-support-for-obamas-counterterrorism-policies/2012/02/07/gIQAFrSEyQ_story.html) the drones — after all they're going after terrorists. But the administration is claiming the right to charge, try and execute an American citizen without a hearing or a trial and conviction. The Constitution, Attorney General Holder argues (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/us/politics/holder-explains-threat-that-would-call-for-killing-without-trial.html?ref=world), "guarantees due process, not judicial process." But once more, this tramples the entire framework of the Bill of Rights, which was devised to limit the power of the state to lock up political dissenters without an independent tribunal.
It is vital that Congress reassert its constitutional authority. In the 1952 Steel Seizure case, Justice Felix Frankfurter argued (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0343_0579_ZC.html) that "a systematic, unbroken, executive practice, long pursued to the knowledge of Congress and never before questioned . . . may be treated as a gloss on the executive power" vested in the president by the Constitution. The practice doesn't just become legal, it becomes part of the Constitution, and Congress cannot thereafter challenge the authority that has been ceded.
Over twenty legislators led by Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, and Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) have written (http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/1219) formally to the president asking that he explain openly "the process by which signature strikes are authorized and executed; the mechanisms used to "ensure such killings are legal;" and the mechanisms to track civilian casualties. The Congress should also insist that the Justice Department memo detailing the legal arguments relied on by the president be made public. And then Congress needs to hold a grand inquest on presidential war powers and the rights of both the Congress and American citizens.
Srećom, ima i duhovitih Amerikanaca: http://www.donotkill.net/ (http://www.donotkill.net/)
Heh... Amerikanka iranskog porekla htela da kupi ajPed u Appleovoj radnji u Džordžiji, ali kako ju je prodavac čuo da na Farsiju svom saputniku kaže da će ga poslati rodbini u Iran, odbio da joj proda - pošto Amerika zabranjuje izvoz u Iran za robu koja se potencijalno može iskoristiti u vojne ili terorističke svrhe:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/iranian-american-woman-says-apple-refused-sell-her-002456511.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/iranian-american-woman-says-apple-refused-sell-her-002456511.html)
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/customer-apple-store-denied-me-ipad-speaking-farsi/nPY4p/ (http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/customer-apple-store-denied-me-ipad-speaking-farsi/nPY4p/)
moron!!!
Pa... on je samo sledio kompani polisi, nije tu on mnogo kriv.
Kompani polisi je da njihovi proizvodi ne smeju u Iran, ne da ne smeju da se prodaju američkim državljanima iranskog porekla, ili nekome ko nešto kaže na Farsiju.
jeste da znam da koristiš svaku priliku da ocrnis epl, al iz teksta se ne da zaključiti da je to kompani polisi vec da imamo posla s moronom (koji je, očito, overedukovan za posao kojim se bavi pošto sumnjam da bi neko od nas bio siguran da se radi o farsiju kad ga čujemo :mrgreen: ).
Suština tih sankcija je da se osigura indijsko i kinesko tržište, gde su Ameri autsorsovali svoju industriju, energiju i životni standard, a ta priča o iranskoj opasnosti je čista laž. Indija i Kina ne priznaju te smešne sankcije.
Quote from: angel011 on 26-06-2012, 13:13:05
Kompani polisi je da njihovi proizvodi ne smeju u Iran, ne da ne smeju da se prodaju američkim državljanima iranskog porekla, ili nekome ko nešto kaže na Farsiju.
Ne nekome ko kaže "nešto" na Farsiju. Prodavac je takođe iranskog porekla i razume Farsi pa je tako razumeo da će iPad biti poklonjen rođaku u Iranu, što je u suprotnosti sa Eplovom kompanijskom politikom.
Quote from: lilit_depp on 26-06-2012, 13:16:08
jeste da znam da koristiš svaku priliku da ocrnis epl, al iz teksta se ne da zaključiti da je to kompani polisi vec da imamo posla s moronom (koji je, očito, overedukovan za posao kojim se bavi pošto sumnjam da bi neko od nas bio siguran da se radi o farsiju kad ga čujemo :mrgreen: ).
Hm, možda nisi kliknula na link. Tamo ima sledeće:
QuoteThe employee showed them Apple's corporate policy on export sales, which reads:
PROHIBITED DESTINATIONS
The U.S. holds complete embargoes against Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria
The exportation, reexportation, sale or supply, directly or indirectly, from the United States, or by a U.S. person wherever located, of any Apple goods, software, technology (including technical data), or services to any of these countries is strictly prohibited without prior authorization by the U.S. Government. This prohibition also applies to any Apple owned subsidiary or any subsidiary employee worldwide.
Dakle, definitivno to jeste kompani polisi i čovek je postupio u skladu sa njom... E, sad, koliko to ima smisla, to je drugo pitanje...
sto ne znaci nuzno da covek nije moron. :lol:
procitala sam samo prvi link, gde da citam i drugi, a jos iz sumnjivog izvora. :lol:
Pa, to i jeste na prvom linku!!!!!!!! Nego si samo preletjela pogledom!
A možda on jeste moron, ali problem je ipak u sumnjivoj politici Amerike kao države a onda Epla kao firme, on je ipak samo poštovao pravila...
ma slazem se ja, al eplu sve oprastam. americi ii njenim drzavljanima nista!
(tako je to kad se bavim sagitom van radnog mesta :cry:. sorry)
Eh, Epl... Nije da je gugl stvarno ispoštovao svoju Dont Bi Ivl maksimu, ali Epl je i dalje na skali zla negde između Majkrosofta i Belzebuba. Ozbiljni su tu napori uloženi da se bude zao.
Nego, evo još teških momenata za Lilitu. Poznato je koliko ta žena voli Obamu ali i Džimija Kartera. Gde sad da se svrsta kada je Džimi naoštrio pero i opleo po Obami kako krši ljudska prava s obe ruke između ostalog svojom silnom autorizacijom atentata na ljude širom sveta putem korišćenja UAV letelica aka dronova:
Jimmy Carter Accuses U.S. of 'Widespread Abuse of Human Rights' (http://news.yahoo.com/jimmy-carter-accuses-u-widespread-abuse-human-rights-154057442--abc-news-politics.html)
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A former U.S. president is accusing the current president of sanctioning the "widespread abuse of human rights" by authorizing drone strikes to kill suspected terrorists.
Jimmy Carter, America's 39 th president, denounced the Obama administration for "clearly violating" 10 of the 30 articles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, writing in a New York Times op-ed (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/25/opinion/americas-shameful-human-rights-record.html?_r=2) on Monday that the "United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights."
"Instead of making the world safer, America's violation of international human rights abets our enemies and alienates our friends," Carter wrote.
While the total number of attacks from unmanned aircraft, or drones, and the resulting casualties are murky, the New America Foundation estimates that in Pakistan alone 265 drone strikes have been executed since January 2009 . Those strikes have killed at least 1,488 people, at least 1,343 of them considered militants, the foundation estimates (http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/drones) based on news reports and other sources.
In addition to the drone strikes, Carter criticized the current president for keeping the Guantanamo Bay detention center open, where prisoners "have been tortured by waterboarding more than 100 times or intimidated with semiautomatic weapons, power drills or threats to sexually assault their mothers."
The former president blasted the government for allowing "unprecedented violations of our rights to privacy through warrantless wiretapping and government mining of our electronic communications."
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He also condemned recent legislation that gives the president the power to detain suspected terrorists indefinitely, although a federal judge blocked the law from taking effect for any suspects not affiliated with the September 11 terrorist attacks.
"This law violates the right to freedom of expression and to be presumed innocent until proved guilty, two other rights enshrined in the declaration," Carter said.
While Carter never mentioned Obama by name, he called out "our government" and "the highest authorities in Washington," and urged "concerned citizens" to "persuade Washington to reverse course and regain moral leadership."
moram da kazem da sam odavno prestala da volim obamu, mislim, nije da ne mogu da ga gledam ocima i jeste da ga volim vise od nesrecnog romnija, al dzimi karter je dzimi karter. pa zaboga, on je mamu poslao na titovu sahranu!!!! salu na stranu, dzimi je faca i jeste da me zezas kad kazes da ga volim, al dobro si pogodio. :lol:
i naravno da su ovi dronovi vanredan bullshit, samo da srede da navigaciju rade iz orbite i ovaj vid agresije vise nece upadati ni oficijelno u bilo kakvu human rights ladicu. :cry: :cry:
al srce mi najvise para ona nobelova nagrada, mislim, jeste da je on nije ni trazio, al to je blamaza veka...gledano ovako malo s distance.
Мислим дођавола, па тај Џими Картер је једини амерички предсједник послије Розевелта који је одавао особине људског бића барем у траговима. Какав црни (но пун интендед) Обама.
ma to meho pamti vreme kad sam ja verovala da može, a on tvrdio da crnac ne može da bude izabran za usa predsednika. :lol:
Meni obama sve vise bledi, skoro kao majkl dzekson.
Quote from: Usul on 27-06-2012, 01:44:05
Meni obama sve vise bledi, skoro kao majkl dzekson.
Поређење је неумјесно - Мајкл Џексон, покој му души, био је великан, а Барак Обмана је обичан смрад.
Ova Megan Amram je divna žena
http://meganamram.tumblr.com/post/26513126401/america-a-review (http://meganamram.tumblr.com/post/26513126401/america-a-review)
Spasi nekom život a onda - dobij otkaz, iako ti je radno mesto "spasilac života" (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/lifeguard-fired-leaving-post-beach-hallandale-florida-135238189.html)
Ma to nije nista. Mnogo jaca je ona vest od pre jedno mesec-dva gde je neka poklonila bubreg sefici a ova kad se vratila na posao otpusti donatorku sa objasnjenjem da ne zeli da se u firmi prica kako kod nje ima povlascenih. Prica godine.
Interesantna analiza humanitarnih aktivnosti Bila Gejtsa:
The Gates Foundation's Leveraged Philanthropy: Corporate Profit Versus Humanity on Three Fronts (http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/living-in-dialogue/2012/07/the_gates_foundations_leverage.html)
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Guest post by Chemtchr. Part One of Two.
Philanthropy wonk Lucy Bernholz defines (http://philanthropy.blogspot.com/2009/06/buzzword-20094-leverage.html) the buzzword leverage
as "the idea that you can use a little money to access a lot of money."
It's hard to think of the Gates Foundation's $26 billion leverage effort (http://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/pages/foundation-fact-sheet.aspx)
as "a little money", especially since it's been spread over the globe to gain access to vastly more resources than it contributes, including U.S. tax dollars, the foreign exchange of emerging African nations, and United Nations funds for international development and world health.
Gates' leveraged philanthropy model is a public-private partnership (http://dev.wcfia.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/697__Partnerships.pdf)
to improve the world, partly through targeted research support but principally through public advocacy and tax-free lobbying to influence government policy. The goal of these policies is often to explicitly support profitability for corporate investors, whose enterprises are seen by the Gates Foundation as advancing human good. However, maximum corporate profit and public good often clash when its projects are implemented.
For example, chemical giant Monsanto has partnered with the Gates Foundation, which reportedly works to suppress local seed exchanges and environmentally sustainable agricultural practices through its global agricultural charity work (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012751169_gatesmonsanto29m.html). Fraud-prone drug giant GlaxoSmithKline (http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/07/02/health-glaxosmithkline-fraud-settlement.html)
is a partner in the Foundation's work to leverage its own relatively fractional contribution to vaccination efforts, so that it centrally controls enormous world funds (http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/136687/christy-feig-and-sonia-shah/setting-the-record-straight-on-who-funding) for purchase, pricing, and delivery of vaccines for world public health. And in its U.S. education reform charity work, the Gates Foundation has increasingly shifted its funding to promote market domination by its British corporate education services partner, Pearson Education (http://truthinamericaneducation.com/common-core-state-standards/national-curriculum/).
The Gates Foundation, and Gates personally, also own stock and reap profits (http://www.gurufocus.com/StockBuy.php?GuruName=Bill+Gates) from many of these same partner corporations. In addition, the Foundation owns a profit-generating portfolio of stocks which would seem to work against the Foundation's declared missions, such as the Latin American Coca-Cola FEMSA distributorship (http://www.rationalanalyst.com/?p=2132) and five multinational oil giants operating in Nigeria (http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-gatesx07jan07,0,2533850.story). These corporate investments, now moved to a blind trust whose trustees are Bill and Melinda Gates, are collaterally supported by the Foundation's tax-free lobbying and advocacy activities.
Criticism of the profit-driven philanthropy agenda is muted by the fact that many of the Foundation's "advocacy" gifts are positioned to leverage control of policy analysis and news outlets. The Gates Foundation recently undertook sponsorship of the Guardian's Global Development (http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development) coverage, for instance, which now maintains a weary-but-compliant stance toward corporate domination of development aid. The Gates Foundation also literally dominates news coverage of Global Health issues. (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2014280379_gatesmedia.html)
On the U.S. Education Reform front, the Gates Foundation maintains long-time charitable support of Media Bullpen (http://mediabullpen.com/), as well as Education Week itself (see disclaimer (http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/marketplacek12/2012/05/news%20corp_wireless_alec.html)).
Tom Paulson of Humanosphere reviewed some critical stories (http://humanosphere.kplu.org/2011/11/concerns-about-for-profit-personal-benefit-and-policy-making-philanthropists/) that reporters did get published in major news outlets last November.
The Global Health Front
In an interview with Forbes science writer Matt Herper (http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2011/11/10/what-bill-gates-says-about-drug-companies-2/), Gates explained how ensuring the profitablility of Big Pharma's vaccine sales will advance the health of third world populations:
Fortunately, our vaccine discovery rate has been better than the recent drug discovery rate of pharma," Gates said. "And, you know, pharma doing well is important for the world, so hopefully their discovery rate will go up.
Donor nations were shocked when UNICEF disclosed (http://www.ghwatch.org/node/475) that it has been forced to pay artificially elevated prices for vaccines under an arrangement called the Advance Market Commitment, which was brokered by Gates Foundation-dominated GAVI alliance, to greatly increase drug company profits. Stakeholders also worry that industry reports of particular vaccine's effectiveness (http://www.nature.com/news/2011/111026/full/478439a.html)might be skewed by marketing goals.
There is no doubt that vaccines save lives, but a 2009 analysis by the British medical journal Lancet flagged a number of concerns (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(09)60571-7/fulltext?_eventId=login) about the Foundation's pattern of expenditures, particularly questioning the propriety of making "charitable" contributions to the World Bank's International Finance Corporation (IFC). Others have expanded on those concerns.
The 2010 Gates Foundation announcement of $1.5 billion for maternal health in developing countries over five years was welcomed, but it came heavily leveraged. (http://www.who.int/pmnch/topics/maternal/app_maternal_health_english.pdf) Gates launched the Health in Africa Fund, through the International Finance Corporation (IFC), to establish new mechanisms to invest world health funding and national health budgets in private-sector healthcare facilities (http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE55402620090605) in Africa. The Gates Foundation's funding category for Global Maternal Health includes research and development in the US of technology and treatments, and also advocacy in vulnerable African nations for government policies. Since Gates believes sustainable health systems must be privately profitable, he leverages his "maternal health" funding to effectively divert investment of available in-country funds, as well as NGO funding, into private ventures that he favors, instead of into national health plans.
The pursuit of profitability for the Foundation's corporate marketers warps the design and implementation of delivery programs. The Gates Foundation leverages its own contributions to dominate and focus external funds (http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/136687/christy-feig-and-sonia-shah/setting-the-record-straight-on-who-funding) into its own intensive, vertically integrated programs.
Controlled from above and afar (http://www.globaleconomicgovernance.org/wp-content/uploads/Sridhar-Vertical-Funds-in-the-Health-Sector1.pdf),
the programs divert all available health resources to temporary, fraud-prone drives. Vertical integration means the Foundation controls every aspect of the project, which disappears when funding is exhausted. Horizontal development of medical service capacity on the ground is frozen out, and the Foundation's opposition to comprehensive national health programs means African physicians must watch their patients die from conditions that would be treatable if a basic medical infrastructure existed.
(http://www.ghwatch.org/node/547)
The Global Agricultural Development Front
The Gates Foundation's philanthropic agricultural development program is partnered with international agribusiness corporations, and is aimed at promoting advanced technologies such as genetically modified crops and pesticides in developing nations. In light of this conflict, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation's own investments in Monsanto and Cargill, particularly, have come under heavy criticism (http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/poverty-matters/2010/sep/29/gates-foundation-gm-monsanto).
In addition to leveraging control of international development funds for its Alliance for a Green Revolution in Africa (Agra) initiative, (http://www.pambazuka.org/en/category/comment/47261) the Gates Foundation influences African governments directly (http://allafrica.com/stories/201103240482.html) to expend their own agricultural budgets to support a crop warehouse/borrowing system that binds farmers to Gates' international corporate partners, for future seed and pesticide access. On every continent but Africa, trade differential due to profits extracted by agribusiness already results in a net flow of wealth out of the developing economies, more than offsetting charitable contributions. The payoff from a new Green Revolution for the recipients of the Foundation's charity also includes health damage and environmental degradation. African and Indian agricultural workers maintain that the Foundation's philanthropy is environmentally toxic (http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/1189820/revealed_the_child_victims_of_pesticide_poisoning_in_india.html), and undermines vital agricultural development that respects local conditions.
The recent court action by a consortium of five million Brazilian soy farmers highlights how agricultural development gifts can plunge farmers into perpetual serfdom to corporate agribusiness. As reported in the journal Nature, the farmers have successfully sued Monsanto (http://www.nature.com/news/monsanto-may-lose-gm-soya-royalties-throughout-brazil-1.10837)
to claw back $7.5 billion in "royalties" for the planting of seeds they had harvested themselves, for which Monsanto forcibly extracts payments. A Brazilian judge will now rule on Monsanto's appeal.
The activism of third-world environmental organizations against the Gates Foundation's take-over of UN development programs goes unreported in the U.S. press. It boiled over (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tina-gerhardt/rio20-earth-summit_b_1619996.html) on June 22, however, when young Civil Society representatives (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_society) staged a mass walkout of the corporate-dominated Rio+20 United Nations Summit in Brazil. The representatives of the world's actual voluntary philanthropic organizations reconvened at a summit sponsored by Friends of the Earth. Their own Rio+20 Outcome Document (http://www.earthsummit2012.org/) was delivered to over 100 heads of state and government.
The U.S. Education Reform Front
The Gates Foundation's model of leveraged philanthropy has had serious consequences in U.S. education. Many sources have criticized (http://dianeravitch.net/) the specifics of Gates' profit-driven, politically enforced innovations in public schools. In Part Two of this series, I'll examine how the Foundation's corporate philanthropic model has undermined the quality of American public education, and threatens its democratic foundation.
Addendum:
On discussions of this blog on other forums, readers have asked for links demonstrating the direct connection between the Gates Foundation and the corporate marketing of proprietary genetically modified seeds.
The difficulty here is that the Foundation describes its projects (http://www.gatesfoundation.org/press-releases/pages/international-fund-for-agricultural-development-120223.aspx) in general terms like this:
The money will fund agricultural development projects that are already producing great results for farmers, with a goal to help millions of small farmers lift themselves out of poverty. This re-investment will be in projects that have already:
Supported the release of 34 new varieties of drought-tolerant maize.
No mention is made of partnerships with Monsanto, and "supporting the release" fails to convey how its grants to agricultural ministries helped promote "healthy" free-market agricultural policies like suspending subsidies to poor farmers, or banning traditional seeds from government seed banks.
To find the connection, you have to start at The Indypendent, by Paige Aarhus
"Why Is the Gates Foundation Helping Monsanto?" (http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/272-39/11392-why-is-the-gates-foundation-helping-monsanto)
Gates sponsorship of Monsanto in India makes no mention (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-gates/why-our-foundation-invest_b_1269014.html) of collateral damage by its partner, Monsanto, there:
"Bt cotton - less miracles, more failures for Indian farmers (http://digitaljournal.com/article/321958)"
"KILLER SEEDS: The Devastating Impacts of Monsanto's Genetically Modified Seeds in India (http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=28629)"
Tragically, corruption breeds corruption, and leverage promotes leverage. What link can I give you, to document the absence of coverage of these issues on our captive media? Vandana Shiva put the pieces together on Al Jazeera (http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/02/201224152439941847.html).
Update: See Diane Ravitch's response to this: "I am puzzled by the Gates Foundation." (http://dianeravitch.net/2012/07/05/time-to-investigate-the-gates-foundation/)
What do you think? Is there a danger in the Gates Foundation's approach to leveraged philanthropy?
Chemtchr teaches science and advises a student service club at a public high school in a diverse low-income community. She is a graduate of the University of California-Santa Cruz and Montana State University-Bozeman, and has taught in urban community-based programs and at a tribal college, as well as in public districts. She's active in Citizens for Public Schools, and in local and state councils.
Hero firefighter who saved woman from burning home faces investigation - because he gave her his air mask during rescue
:x
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2169870/Selfless-firefighter-saved-woman-burning-home-investigation-breaking-rules-giving-air-mask-rescue.html#ixzz1zvb6xiBL (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2169870/Selfless-firefighter-saved-woman-burning-home-investigation-breaking-rules-giving-air-mask-rescue.html#ixzz1zvb6xiBL)
Dejli Mejl nije baš najpouzdaniji izvor informacija, da budemo iskreni.. Na primer, iako se u naslovu tvrdi da je čovek sad pod istragom (implicira se zbog kršenja SOP-a), to u tekstu nigde ne piše, već piše samo da su mu pretpostavljeni rekli da "to što je uradio nije bio pametan potez". Jer, naravno i nije - čovek se kockao i spasao život ženi, ali skidanjem svoje maske mogao je da izgubi dva života. Da ne bude zabune, to što je uradio je apsolutna definicija herojstva, ali jasno je i zašto Standardne Operativne Procedure postoje i da one, valjda, u proseku spasu više života nego što to učine rizične odluke donesene u deliću sekunde...
Jest, Dejli mejl je kao britanski Pres ili Kurir. :lol:
To jest, oni su kao srpski Dejli Mejl.
Druga tema: Kris Rok se ponovo setio da je crnac i čestitao bijelčugama "white people day" na tviteru četvrtog Jula, podsećajući da nezavisnost koja se tog dana slavi nije važila u nekom primetnom obliku za u crno obojene ljude u Americi:
http://www.inquisitr.com/270729/white-peoples-day-was-chris-rock-really-offensive-in-controversial-july-4th-tweet/ (http://www.inquisitr.com/270729/white-peoples-day-was-chris-rock-really-offensive-in-controversial-july-4th-tweet/)
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White People's Day, as we reported earlier, (http://www.inquisitr.com/270264/chris-rock-stirs-controversy-with-white-peoples-day-tweet/) has become the outrage du jour among some white people late this week — following a tweet comedian Chris Rock sent on July 4th, as Americans celebrated Independence Day.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/270729/white-peoples-day-was-chris-rock-really-offensive-in-controversial-july-4th-tweet/#JKEa8sHXEVvDkvW5.99 (http://www.inquisitr.com/270729/white-peoples-day-was-chris-rock-really-offensive-in-controversial-july-4th-tweet/#JKEa8sHXEVvDkvW5.99)
Here's what Chris Rock had to say about White People's Day, in the tweet many are now finding so offensive:
"Happy white peoples independence day the slaves weren't free but I'm sure they enjoyed fireworks."
And white people lost their damn minds.
Immediately, Twitter began lighting up with shock that Rock had dared to mention that black people in America were kept as slaves and treated horribly. And that it wasn't until we fought a big ugly bloody war to end it so that black people got the right to, you know, not be murdered or beaten or forced to work for years on end with no recompense at all.
Predictably, white people — who, as Rock points out, enjoyed freedom for all the years black people were enslaved — were very displeased with Rock saying something that is both factually true and, may we point out, references historical happenings far more recent than the very event July 4th marks.
In fact, as many white people complain, it is basically as bad as slavery that sometimes black people mention that black people were once slaves. As white people are quick to explain, this is called "reverse racism," and is equally harmful.
Sometime immediately after the civil war ended, racism was replaced with this newer, more insidious kind of race-based hate that appears whenever anyone mentions that conditions used to be worse for black people in America — a historically correct but inconvenient bit of information for non-black people.
In a time where a black kid can't walk to the corner store without getting shot at point-blank range right in the chest, won't anyone think of the white people? Do you know how hard it is to be white nowadays, with all the black people who insist on referring to history every so often?
Many took to Twitter to complain about Rock's "racism" in pointing out that something that happened actually happened. As a white person myself, I would much rather that than getting shot in the chest at point-blank range when I am just trying to buy a damn iced tea, but I realize that opinion is just me, and far be it from me to speak for all white people, or suggest that the reaction to Rock's tweet still illustrates we have a long way to go.
But you know, both getting shot and having to hear about a black kid that got shot are bad! Listen to one Conservative on Twitter of the #tcot hashtag, who cries into his tea:
"Chris Rock says 'happy white people's independence day.' Racist lefties keep throwing gas on the fire to keep the hate alive. #tcot #loser" Yes, you guys! Racism is like Voldemort. We can only summon it by mentioning it, and acknowledging it did exist and still exists, and if we simply pretend it did not happen, and that the kid who got shot right in the chest for going to the store was really asking for it because he was suspended from school (even though George Zimmerman could not have possibly known that), then all racism will not only magically never occur, but it will also never have happened.
User @rodimusprime muses (https://twitter.com/rodimusprime):
"From the Chris Rock backlash I can see that a lot of people have replaced history with the Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter version of slavery."
Maybe that guy is on to something, because that movie made white people look really noble! The actual historically factual version is just totally reverse racism. Another white person simply sniffs:
"Chris, find a country you like and go there."
Now see, this guy knows history. Americans don't have a history of speaking freely about things they don't like, in order to affect change. No Americans can criticize America without planning to leave the country, as that is the only solution to unfavorable conditions like systemic racism. In fact, I think it is in the Bill of Rights, that all men are created equal, except maybe black people, women and gay folk, and if you don't like it, leave.
It should be noted that Chris Rock has not deleted his White People's Day tweet, allowing White People to wear their official outrage at being discriminated against hat for many more days to come.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/270729/white-peoples-day-was-chris-rock-really-offensive-in-controversial-july-4th-tweet/#JKEa8sHXEVvDkvW5.99 (http://www.inquisitr.com/270729/white-peoples-day-was-chris-rock-really-offensive-in-controversial-july-4th-tweet/#JKEa8sHXEVvDkvW5.99)
A ovde ima i nekih tvitova u odgovor, oh ti ludi Amerikanci:
http://www.webpronews.com/white-peoples-day-chris-rock-joke-sparks-backlash-2012-07 (http://www.webpronews.com/white-peoples-day-chris-rock-joke-sparks-backlash-2012-07)
Ali ako ništa drugo, više Amerikanaca sad veruje da se klima zaista menja, kad su iskusili ekstremne vremenske uslove prošlog tjedna:
Just step outside: More Americans convinced of climate change after extreme weather (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/just-step-outside-more-americans-convinced-climate-change-213455838.html)
Глупи црњо расиста.
И надасве глупи коментатор, какав црни "обрнути расизам", та фраза постоји само код ретардираних новинара. Зна се шта је расизам.
dok mi tupimo o pravdi i nepravdi, dronovi-nedronovi, amerika bozonira :lol: i obezbeđuje resurse. da smo ameri, ne znam da li bismo mnogo kukali na takvo vođenje politike. :mrgreen:
http://www.businessinsider.com/these-12-hellholes-are-examples-of-what-the-rest-of-america-will-look-like-soon-2012-7 (http://www.businessinsider.com/these-12-hellholes-are-examples-of-what-the-rest-of-america-will-look-like-soon-2012-7)
QuoteMOSKVA - Donji dom ruskog parlamenta usvojio je u petak prijedlog zakona o statusu "stranog agenta" za nevladine organizacije koje se financiraju novcem iz inozemstva i koje se bave politikom, javljaju ruski mediji.
Taj kontroverzni prijedlog zakona, koji su osudile i Europska unija i SAD, a koji će, kako aktivisti strahuju, Kremlj primijeniti kako bi se obračunao sa svojim kritičarima, usvojen je u Dumi s 374 glasa za, tri protiv i jednim suzdržanim.
Ovo je bilo treće i završno glasovanje o ovom prijedlogu zakonu, za čije su kršenje predviđene visoke novčane kazne ili kazne zatvora, piše Hina.
Neprofitne organizacije koje će potpadati pod ovaj zakon bit će stavljene na popis "stranih agenata" što znači da će se od nevladine organizacije tražiti da stavi etiketu stranog agenta na sve materijale koje će objaviti, među kojima i materijale za medije.
Osim toga, morat će izvijestiti ministarstvo pravosuđa o bilo kakvoj transakciji stranog novca većoj od 200.000 rubalja.
Ruski zastupnici u petak su usvojili još jedan kontroverzni prijedlog zakona kojim se kriminalizira kleveta i za to predviđa novčana kaznu od najviše pet milijuna rubalja (oko 125.000 eura).
Očekuje se da će oba prijedloga zakona usvojiti i gornji dom parlamenta, nakon čega ih treba potpisati predsjednik Vladimir Putin.
Analitičari smatraju da se na ovaj način stvara zakonski okvir za gušenje oporbe koji će naštetiti ugledu mnogih skupina za ljudska prava koje djeluju u Rusiji.
Rusija nevladine organizacije proglasila tajnim agentima (http://www.bitno.ba/vijesti/svijet/rusija-nevladine-organizacije-proglasila-tajnim-agentima)
Хех, "контроверзни" приједлог закона који онемогућава америчког багри да и у Русији инсталира своје Соње Бисерко, Наташе Кандић и сличне :!:
QuoteRuski zastupnici u petak su usvojili još jedan kontroverzni prijedlog zakona kojim se kriminalizira kleveta i za to predviđa novčana kaznu od najviše pet milijuna rubalja (oko 125.000 eura).
Шта?!?!?!? Па овим се спрјечава да неограничено пљујеш по неком без икаквих посљедица! :? Скандал! Гушење слободе штампе! Смрт за слободу говора и ЕУропске вриједности!!!!!!!!1111111111 :shock:
Окачио сам ја вест о овоме док је још у повојима било. И коментарисао. Буди се међед. Још мало бунован и тром, али трља очи.
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.russiablog.org%2FRussianBearGasEU.jpg&hash=e833a1895f2274f74f2b0b56561f58aeff3258a5)
Ovo ću ovde. Iznenadilo me kad su se neki ovdašnji samoproklamovani antifašisti pobunili protiv ideje o obaveznoj zdravstvenoj zaštiti u SAD, jel, pa da malo razbistrimo.
Rodžer Ebert nije stručnjak za zdravstvo ali je pametan čoek i dugogodišnji pacijent zdravstva SAD pa treba poslušati šta ima da kaže (http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2012/07/a_shot_in_the_dark.html):
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Catie and Caleb Medley went to the doomed midnight screening of "The Dark Knight Rises." It was a movie they'd been looking forward to for a year, her father said. Gunfire rang out. The bullets missed Catie, who was pregnant. Caleb was shot in the eye. On Tuesday, their son Hugo was born. Caleb is listed in critical condition, and the cost of emergency treatment for his head wound has already reached $2 million. The Medleys were uninsured. According to a useful article in the Christian Science Monitor, "three of the five hospitals treating victims said Wednesday they will limit or completely wipe out medical bills." A fund has been established to help the Medleys, and it has passed $250,000. This is all heartening. But if Caleb Medley had been the victim of a drive-by shooting instead of the Aurora catastrophe, it's unlikely a hospital would have waived costs.
The Monitor observes: "Nearly one in three Coloradans, or about 1.5 million, either have no health insurance or have coverage that is inadequate... The highest uninsured rate was among adults between 18 and 34 and many of those injured in the shootings are in that age group."
In any other nation in the first world, the medical bills of the Medleys, including her stay in the maternity ward, would have been covered by Universal Health Care. But UHC (and its tentative first step as the Affordable Heath Care bill, or Obamacare) remains fiercely opposed by a vocal minority in the U.S., and the Republicans have vowed to repeal it in the next session of Congress, if they can.
well, al bus plus je ipak fašizam!!!!!!
na stranu to, cena od 2 miliona faking dolara za tretman kakav god da je, je madness. nije čudo što se medizinische lobi protivi, kao i republikanci.
btw, ovaj zakon je hilarin ustvari, obama je samo uspeo da ga provuče.
bas i ja mislim, da mu nisu klonirali novu glavu?!
To, Lilit, jbt, kako su mu nakucali dva miliončeta za dva dana? pa ne bi izašlo toliko da su mu menjali jetru, srce i bubrege sve đuture.
EDIT: zoska sam ladno pročitala kao da su Obami klonirali Hilarinu glavu :-x izvinjavam se.
well pit, i to je amerika.
jevtr umjesto blazenstva i raja zudi za naocalama? :lol:
hahahaha, jevtro, da si malo bliže pa da pijemo kaficu da se otrezniš! xrofl
Pijem kafu, brišem naočari, unosim ispravke u prevod, sagitujem... multitasking će mi glave doći!
sagitovati? moj novi omiljeni glagol!!! :lol:
that's how we roll :-|
A mi kao nismo znali:
Obama authorized secret support for Syrian rebels (http://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-obama-authorizes-secret-support-syrian-rebels-010014457.html)
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing U.S. support for rebels seeking to depose Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his government, sources familiar with the matter said.
Obama's order, approved earlier this year and known as an intelligence "finding," broadly permits the CIA and other U.S. agencies to provide support that could help the rebels oust Assad.
This and other developments signal a shift toward growing, albeit still circumscribed, support for Assad's armed opponents - a shift that intensified following last month's failure of the U.N. Security Council to agree on tougher sanctions against the Damascus government.
The White House is for now apparently stopping short of giving the rebels lethal weapons, even as some U.S. allies do just that.
But U.S. and European officials have said that there have been noticeable improvements in the coherence and effectiveness of Syrian rebel groups in the past few weeks. That represents a significant change in assessments of the rebels by Western officials, who previously characterized Assad's opponents as a disorganized, almost chaotic, rabble.
Precisely when Obama signed the secret intelligence authorization, an action not previously reported, could not be determined.
The full extent of clandestine support that agencies like the CIA might be providing also is unclear.
White House spokesman Tommy Vietor declined comment.
'NERVE CENTER'
A U.S. government source acknowledged that under provisions of the presidential finding, the United States was collaborating with a secret command center operated by Turkey and its allies.
Last week, Reuters reported that, along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Turkey had established a secret base near the Syrian border to help direct vital military and communications support to Assad's opponents.
This "nerve center" is in Adana, a city in southern Turkey about 60 miles from the Syrian border, which is also home to Incirlik, a U.S. air base where U.S. military and intelligence agencies maintain a substantial presence.
Turkey's moderate Islamist government has been demanding Assad's departure with growing vehemence. Turkish authorities are said by current and former U.S. government officials to be increasingly involved in providing Syrian rebels with training and possibly equipment.
European government sources said wealthy families in Saudi Arabia and Qatar were providing significant financing to the rebels. Senior officials of the Saudi and Qatari governments have publicly called for Assad's departure.
On Tuesday, NBC News reported that the Free Syrian Army had obtained nearly two dozen surface-to-air missiles, weapons that could be used against Assad's helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft. Syrian government armed forces have employed such air power more extensively in recent days.
NBC said the shoulder-fired missiles, also known as MANPADs, had been delivered to the rebels via Turkey.
On Wednesday, however, Bassam al-Dada, a political adviser to the Free Syrian Army, denied the NBC report, telling the Arabic-language TV network Al-Arabiya that the group had "not obtained any such weapons at all." U.S. government sources said they could not confirm the MANPADs deliveries, but could not rule them out either.
Current and former U.S. and European officials previously said that weapons supplies, which were being organized and financed by Qatar and Saudi Arabia, were largely limited to guns and a limited number of anti-tank weapons, such as bazookas.
Indications are that U.S. agencies have not been involved in providing weapons to Assad's opponents. In order to do so, Obama would have to approve a supplement, known as a "memorandum of notification, to his initial broad intelligence finding.
Further such memoranda would have to be signed by Obama to authorize other specific clandestine operations to support Syrian rebels.
Reuters first reported last week that the White House had crafted a directive authorizing greater U.S. covert assistance to Syrian rebels. It was unclear at that time whether Obama had signed it.
OVERT SUPPORT
Separately from the president's secret order, the Obama administration has stated publicly that it is providing some backing for Assad's opponents.
The State Department said on Wednesday the U.S. government had set aside a total of $25 million for "non-lethal" assistance to the Syrian opposition. A U.S. official said that was mostly for communications equipment, including encrypted radios.
The State Department also says the United States has set aside $64 million in humanitarian assistance for the Syrian people, including contributions to the World Food Program, the International Committee of the Red Cross and other aid agencies.
Also on Wednesday, the U.S. Treasury confirmed it had granted authorization to the Syrian Support Group, Washington representative of one of the most active rebel factions, the Free Syrian Army, to conduct financial transactions on the rebel group's behalf. The authorization was first reported on Friday by Al-Monitor, a Middle East news and commentary website.
Last year, when rebels began organizing themselves to challenge the rule of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, Obama also signed an initial "finding" broadly authorizing secret U.S. backing for them. But the president moved cautiously in authorizing specific measures to support them.
Some U.S. lawmakers, such as Republican Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham, have criticized Obama for moving too slowly to assist the rebels and have suggested the U.S. government become directly involved in arming Assad's opponents.
Other lawmakers have suggested caution, saying too little is known about the many rebel groups.
Recent news reports from the region have suggested that the influence and numbers of Islamist militants, some of them connected to al Qaeda or its affiliates, have been growing among Assad's opponents.
U.S. and European officials say that, so far, intelligence agencies do not believe the militants' role in the anti-Assad opposition is dominant.
While U.S. and allied government experts believe that the Syrian rebels have been making some progress against Assad's forces lately, most believe the conflict is nowhere near resolution, and could go on for years.
(Additional reporting by Tabassum Zakaria and Arshad Mohammed; Editing by Warren Strobel and Peter Cooney)
Америчка гамад.
Нешто за Меха: :lol:
QuoteUS Missile Defense staff put security on the line - to watch porn
Employees of the Missile Defense Agency have been warned to quit using their workplace computers to watch porn online. Their actions do not only waste time, but could also put defense networks at risk of malware infection.
The agency's executive director, John James Jr., wrote in a memo obtained by Bloomberg News that a number of employees and contractors were caught "engaging in inappropriate use of the MDA network."
"There have been instances of employees and contractors accessing websites, or transmitting messages, containing pornographic or sexually explicit images," James wrote in the July 27 memo. "These actions are not only unprofessional, they reflect time taken away from designated duties, are in clear violation of federal and DoD and regulations, consume network resources and can compromise the security of the network though the introduction of malware or malicious code."
James warned that staff members caught breaking the rules could risk losing their security clearance and could eventually end up getting suspended or fired from federal service.
He also reminded personnel that the agency's network systems were subject to monitoring "at all times."
"Inappropriate usage will be detected and reported to supervisors for appropriate disciplinary action," he added. "The seriousness of the potential breach to operations cannot be overstated."
The memo was written after a few employees downloaded material from websites with known virus or malware issues, MDA spokesperson reported in an e-mail.
Porn sites are notorious for being a breeding ground for all kinds of viruses; from the pesky, pop-up causing adware to the much more malignant spyware that can retrieve data stored in an infected computer.
While getting a personal computer infected with such a virus can be bad enough, the damage more than doubles if a government computer falls prey to such malware, mostly because the data on it may be classified.
The Missile Defense Agency is a section of the Defense Department and is responsible for developing, testing and deploying missile defense systems using land-, sea-, air- and space-based sensors, complementary interceptors and battle management command and control systems. The Pentagon is hoping to procure $7.7 billion for the agency in 2013.
The scandal is not the first to hit the agency this year. In May, the Pentagon's inspector general produced a scathing report of MDA's director, US Army Lieutenant General Patrick O'Reilly. The report said O'Reilly "demeaned and belittled employees", "demanded that a subordinate use profane language", and concluded that the agency's director "created an unhealthy command climate". Nevertheless he kept his office.
http://rt.com/usa/news/missile-defense-porn-employees-744/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/missile-defense-porn-employees-744/)
Najgori narod na svetu. Gori su i od Srba.
http://now.msn.com/lifeguard-gets-dollar2600-hospital-bill-after-saving-drowning-boy (http://now.msn.com/lifeguard-gets-dollar2600-hospital-bill-after-saving-drowning-boy)
QuoteTeen lifeguard gets $2,600 bill for saving drowning boy's life
John Clark has learned that not only are good deeds sometimes punished, they also may come with a hefty price tag. The 17-year-old lifeguard at Oregon's Rockaway Beach heard a 12-year-old boy screaming for help last month after the swimmer was pulled out by the rough surf. Clark swam out to rescue the boy, and when the ambulance arrived, he climbed in. "I couldn't just let the kid go," he said. Clark's selfless decisions earned him a $2,600 bill from Tillamook County General Hospital, including a $1,907 charge for the 15-mile ambulance ride. Clark, who juggles two other lifeguarding jobs, says he "feels bad" about the four-digit bill. We feel bad the hospital would even issue it.
Uporedite prvih 20
http://www.amiannoying.com/(S(h0sjo4yo2ebpja45xyx5jpf2))/collection.aspx?collection=78 (http://www.amiannoying.com/(S(h0sjo4yo2ebpja45xyx5jpf2))/collection.aspx?collection=78)
http://www.forbes.com/celebrities/list/ (http://www.forbes.com/celebrities/list/)
Uporedio, i šta sad?
Uzgred, Forbsova lista za 2012. postoji i na Am I Annoying sajtu, http://www.amiannoying.com/%28S%281rfg1nytsa31nn45rnj1kluo%29%29/Collection.aspx?collection=13806 (http://www.amiannoying.com/%28S%281rfg1nytsa31nn45rnj1kluo%29%29/Collection.aspx?collection=13806)
Pa na ovoj Forbsovoj listi nema Džona Stjuarta, a ima Glena Beka i Raša Limboa! Nešto tu smrdi do u nebesa.
Quote from: mac on 08-08-2012, 01:00:06
Uporedio, i šta sad?
pa kad uporediš izgledaju kao dvije različite zemlje
na prvoj Gibson, Sajnfeld, Stonsi, a sada Biber, Rijana, Bijons
AKo to nije pokazatelj Amerike na ivici propasti onda ne znam šta jeste 8-)
Ti se još nadaš da im je Džon Stjuart mnogo značajan.
Možda vas High Frequency Trading (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency_trading) ne plaši, ali s obzirom na surovu globalnu finansijsku krizu, možda bi trebalo. Na kraju krajeva, prošlonedeljni masiv kok ap firme Knight Capital (http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/08/02/trying-to-be-nimble-knight-capital-stumbles/)koji je dobrano protresao američke berze i dokačio i velike firme poput Forda recimo, koštaće kompaniju 440 miliona dolara i možda je uništiti - jer je softver doneo pogrešnu odluku a čovek nije imao vremena da reaguje.
Ovaj metod berzanskog poslovanja u kome algoritimi kupuju i prodaju deonice brzinama koje ljudski organizam, jelte, ne može da pojmi a kamoli postigne je kad čovek pokuša o njemu da misli, potpuno apstraktan. Kupovina vlasništva ovde više nema nikakve veze sa ulaganjem u posao ili razvijanjem posla već samo sa oplodnjom kapitala - brutalni kapitalizam kojim se više ne bave ljudi nego softverski roboti. Ovaj GIF (http://www.nanex.net/aqck/2804.HTML)pokazuje kako je izgledala učestalost ovog trgovanja na američkim berzama u poslednjih pet godina. Vrlo je... hipnotički za posmatranje. Rojtersov finansijski bloger Aleks Salmon je ovime fasciniran i prepadnut (http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/08/06/chart-of-the-day-hft-edition/).
A, da podsetimo, kad već operišete pri brzinama koje su, jelte, bliske brzini svetlosti, onda se morate služiti svakojakim trikovima da biste ostali kompetitivni. Kao što je, na primer, plaćanje usluge da dobijete informaciju o prodaji stoka trideset milisekundi pre drugih firmi... :shock: Wired je nedavno objavio članak u kome se špekuliše o tome da će se uskoro za HFT koristiti tehnologija bazirana na emisijama neutrina (http://www.wired.com/business/2012/08/ff_wallstreet_trading/all/). Ono, jeste, neutrino je sporiji od fotona ili elektrona u žici, ali može da id direktno kroz centar Zemlje, pa time kompenzuje.
Fascinantno i zastrašujuće i verujem da će Skalop i Kufer imati šta da pročitaju ovde i kažu na temu.
Sve to treba pohvatati i smestiti u Crnu Reku na odvikavanje. Šta tu ima fascinantno?
xrofl
To uopšte nije više kapitalizam. To je obično šibicarenje.
sutra: bloger fasciniran, covjek sletio na mjesec
Pošto neutrini imaju varijabilnu zapreminu, onaj koji ima tu tehnologiju moći će da lažira do mile volje.
Quote from: scallop on 09-08-2012, 11:26:15
Sve to treba pohvatati i smestiti u Crnu Reku na odvikavanje. Šta tu ima fascinantno?
Pa, fascinantno je jer ipak roboti preuzimaju odlučivanje o finansijama, kako je naučna fantastika u svoje vreme i upozoravala i sve se odvija pred našim očima. I zastrašujuće je.
Quote from: Lord Kufer on 09-08-2012, 11:32:55
To uopšte nije više kapitalizam. To je obično šibicarenje.
Ali ne obično, već šibicarenje brzinom svetlosti!
Za mnoge je i obično šibicarenje brzinom svetlosti. Gledao sam ja kako pelješe ljude potpuno ubeđene da su shvatili šta ovaj radi. A onda tek izraz na licu gubitnika, to se novcem ne može platiti 8-)
Meho, nema fascinantnog. Nema robotskog odlučivanja o finansijama. To nisu finansije. To je robotski lopovluk i nauči da to nazivaš pravim imenom.
Profesionalni kockari se nikad ne kockaju. Oni sve nameste, a ako puknu, primene grubu silu i povrate to što su izgubili.
Tehnologija zasnovana na neutrinima je tehnologija zaustavljanja vremena.
To je nabačeno, jasno je onome ko ume da gleda, u seriji FlashForward. Zbog toga je serija ukinuta...
A ja mislila da je serija ukinuta jer je katastrofalno loša.
Serija je, osim promene paradigme bila veoma kritična prema ženskom emocionalnom projektovanju, tj. emocionalnom fašizmu, a to se mnogima nije dopalo.
Ali, nije nastavljena, zbog toga što je paradigmu razuma zamenila paradigmom sažimanja vremena i prostora u tačku. A to je osobina neutrina-bozona.
a šta je žensko emocionalno projektovanje? i gde ga ima u seriji? meni je serija sa stanovišta logike glupa iako je u početku vrlo obećavala.
btw, fascinirana sam i mehovim poznavanjem neutrino-foton-kompenzacija znanjima!!
pa neće biti da je SF to predvidio jer je tvrdio generalno da će kompjuteri moći da misle, što ovi, jelte, ne mogu, jer su retardirane mašine koje su programirali ljudi.
inače, što se gifa, tiče, to je znak opšte panike na berzi. Više i nema razmišljanja kuda gdje, a pogotovo zašto, samo da se nekako izvuče najveća korist. To znači potpuni besmisao, a možda i skora propast.
Nešto ste svi odjutros ustali na levu nogu. Osim Lilite, Alah je pomilovao. :lol:
Glavni ženski lik, doktorka, demonstrira čisto emocionalni pragmatizam i odbija da shvati promenu paradigme koju označava svođenje budućnosti na sadašnjost, što zahteva sasvim drugačiji način promišljanja stvarnosti (sve vreme je uverenje da će neki sigurno umreti, ali se to ne mora dogoditi). Sve vreme se pretpostavlje nešto što se zapravo ne ostvaruje. Tu je očigledno da je projekcija ono što dominira njenim umom.
Ona druga ženska, Dimitrijeva verenica, potpuni idiot koja u svoju idealizovanu projekciju može da ga primi samo ako je on apsolutno u s kladu s njom.
Naravno, Dimitrije je mnogo više čovek nego što ona to može da svari. Tu je razbijen i onaj mit o varanju (cheating). Moguće da je i zbog toga serija banovana.
Osim što postoji neka grupa koja izvodi taj eksperiment sa zaustavljanjem svesti, i osim što su glavni negativci u vezi s organizacijom Jerihon (Ješe?), nabačeno je, a to je verovatno trebalo da bude razrađeno u drugoj sezoni, i to da se zapravo radi o kosmičkom događaju, a ne da to izazivaju ljudi. Tu je sigurno nabodena prava istina. I zbog toga je zabranjena.
Gledao sam nekoliko epizoda serije Flash Forward. Početna ideja "šta ako svi na Zemlji dobiju trenutak svoje budućnosti kroz 6 meseci" je neopisivo dobra. Autori serije nisu bili na nivou da se nose sa takvom idejom i ona je zato propala. Sve ostalo je puka nagađanje i podešavanje.
Možda si u pravu, ali se ja ne slažem s tobom 8-)
Moglo je i bolje da se izbalansira, ali mi ne znamo prave razloge.
Ko te tera da se složiš? Ali, moraš priznati da ne može da se baš sve strpa u zavere.
Nije ovo uopšte zavera. Pa kažem ti, rečeno je da je kosmičko događanje. Postoji i nekakva zavera, ali to su oportunisti koji hoće da iskoriste pometnju. To je posao za NSA, zar ne?
Samo fali da se pozoveš na Pla(nk)tona i evo ga sa sve profesorima, Žižekom i sveznajućim Batom.
Seriju je producirao Brannon Braga, koji je producirao Star Trek.
Radije ću se pozvati na njega.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 09-08-2012, 12:03:39
Nešto ste svi odjutros ustali na levu nogu. Osim Lilite, Alah je pomilovao. :lol:
lilita je ustala na tri leve noge i nervozna je toliko da bi joj možda pomoglo da ode i izbatina onog morona što je izjavio da nije kriv. u nedostatku te mogućnosti, drnda se po forumu, te se unapred izvinjava zbog potencijalnih ili već ostvarenih incidenata. :(
i nehotice lilita se dotakla termina koji je najblizi hft-u: drndanje
uh, javise mi da je pasos stigao! sad jos samo da antigeni prihajaju iz dizeldorfa...bem ti koliko se zrtvujem za ovu srbiju! :cry:
ajde, ajde, srbija će da te vodi na kolače!!!
Quote from: lilit_depp on 09-08-2012, 13:55:59
...bem ti koliko se zrtvujem za ovu srbiju! :cry:
smrt srbiji!
:( ti to meni? tim tempom će ti uskoro manjkati srpske grupi-devojke!
briga za zenu.
fala zole, al nema potrebe da brineš već bi bilo lepo da se grupikama pridružiš u lovcu da zajedno krkamo karađorđevu!!! nedostajaćeš nam!!!
pogledaj odgovor koji sam ovako napredan stavio jos prije tvog komentara u "pjesme koje mogu slusati dovijeka" ili kako se vec zove topic. :lol:
hint: strah za covjeka
Quote from: lilit_depp on 09-08-2012, 19:30:21
fala zole, al nema potrebe da brineš već bi bilo lepo da se grupikama pridružiš u lovcu da zajedno krkamo karađorđevu!!! nedostajaćeš nam!!!
zosko da krka karađorđevu? Da si bar rekla bečku...
ma vi bi zoska na razanj.
ah zole,
sad bih rekla nešto tipa: - kad se hrvat plašio da završi na ražnju? njam, njam. al ne mogu zarad mojih hrvatskih predaka!!!!!
hahahahhaha, ovo gore sam napisala pre tvog komentara! samo da se notira!
to su hrvatski preci u tebi! :lol:
Quote from: lilit_depp on 09-08-2012, 19:39:39
hahahahhaha, ovo gore sam napisala pre tvog komentara! samo da se notira!
ako predugo gledaš u nečiji profil, i on počinje da gleda u tebe i kroz tebe...
In der Flamme der Eifersucht wendet man gleich dem Skorpione den vergifteten Stachel gegen sich selber - doch ohne den Erfolg des Skorpions!!!
gule, tuzno je citati te tvoje komentare. pa koji ti je jarac?
Ljubomora.
Quote from: angel011 on 09-08-2012, 20:12:58
Ljubomora.
ote mi ustaša lilitu ispred nosa! :x :cry:
Ah, kakva je samo namiguša ta Lilit! Ko bi rek'o...
cekajte, ljubomora? jesam li nesto propustio?
pa ja svaki dan pogledam bar jedno pet profila.
neovisno o tome, gul rado pokrece ankete o izbacivanju ustase, ali kakve veze sa tim ima lilit???
mislim, zasto se toliko nakalemio na lilit? ja ovo nikako ne razumijem.
Quote from: zorbo on 09-08-2012, 20:43:50
gul rado pokrece ankete o izbacivanju ustase
tvoje uporno prizivanje toga, bar triput dnevno, zaista je patetično!
zar je tvom ograničenom umu toliko teško da pojmi da su srbi otvoreni, divni ljudi puni razumevanja za tebe i tebi slične hrvate privučene srpskim forumima - i da, ma koliko nas ti klinački provocirao svojim klinačkim 'ustaštvom', odavde nećeš biti oteran niti banovan.
ovde se banuju samo pravi srbi, a nikad ustaše.
edit: typos
aha. tu je boljka.
gule, stvarno si se srozao.
edit: i sta ti je sad lilita kriva? ili mrzis "gastarbajtere", kako kazes, po defaultu?
Quote from: zorbo on 09-08-2012, 21:26:30
aha. tu je boljka.
gule, stvarno si se srozao.
da, zaista strašno.
zašto ne pokreneš anketu da me ponovo banuju?
nemojte samo vas dvojica da me branite jedan od drugog!!! bacicu se s prozora. :cry: :cry: :cry:
a sad cistka, moram da radim.
ajmo zakk, prebacuj ovo na deponiju, ne brckaj se previse!
Quote from: Ghoul on 09-08-2012, 21:56:06
da, zaista strašno.
zašto ne pokreneš anketu da me ponovo banuju?
hm, koliko se sjecam zosko se zalagao za gula kad je baniran.
zosko jeste.
ali kakve to veze ima sa zorbom?
ili sa lilit?
Politika obrazlaže (pozivajući se na procurele dokumente objavljene u američkoj i nemačkoj štampi) ono što i mi sami uglavnom nagađamo:
Упутство за револуцију у Сирији (http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/229008.sr.html)
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Грађански рат који већ осамнаест месеци тресе Сирију све више је предмет анализа стручњака, новинара и обавештајаца, који истичу да је на делу и својеврсни рат обавештајних и дипломатских кругова Ирана, који подржава режим Башара ал Асада, и конкурентских кругова из Саудијске Арабије које уз подршку САД желе промене у том делу Блиског истока.
У мору објашњења како је дошло до сиријског сукоба и процена како ће се све завршити, све чешће се наводи да наводно постоји саудијско-амерички плана за такозвану пацификацију Сирије. Суштину овог плана су сарадници немачке обавештајне службе БНД из Вашингтона и Ријада сажели на тридесет густо куцаних страница, при чему су детаљи ,,процурили" и до угледних светских листова, као што су амерички ,,Вашингтон пост" и израелски ,,Хаарец".
Према информацијама из западних обавештајних кругова, на које се позива и ,,Вашингтон пост", наум пацификације Сирије заснован је на детаљном плану који је израдио саудијски принц Бандар бин Султан – протеклих дана именован за шефа саудијске обавештајне службе, премда се прошле недеље сумњало да је преминуо од последица напада на централу обавештајне централе у Ријаду – заједно са бившим америчким амбасадором у Либану Џефријем Фелтманом, а сада помоћником државног секретара задужен за блискоисточне послове.
Наводно, у Вашингтону и Пентагону дошло се до закључка да би та земља требало да буде распарчана и трајно ослабљена – по формули примењиваној у Јужној Америци у 19. веку, као и на Балкану у недавној прошлости. Аналитичари додају је реч о ,,пакс американи" за Сирију, чији би коначни циљ била примена такозваног америчког мира, што је елегантнији израз за архајски принцип доминације ,,завади па владај".
Полазећи од историјске познанице да је Сирија настала двадесетих година прошлог века, по вољи Париза, спајањем три верски, културно и географски различите регије, територије западно од реке Оронт, на потезу између Турске и Либана, остале би под контролом шиитских алавита, клана садашњег председника Башара ал Асада. На истоку би Курди оформили аутономну власт, а управу над највећим делом територије преузели би сиријски сунити које подржава Ријад. У распарчаној Сирији која више не би била способна да утиче на развој у региону, мир би надзирале – трупе Јордана под командом Израела и САД.
Како преноси ,,Хаарец", план за побуну израђен је у пролеће 2008, а за његову реализацију а, тврде извори, САД су још у првој фази издвојиле суму од две милијарде долара за обуку професионалних и приучених агитатора.
Нагласак у стратешкој оријентацији стављен је на подстицање оправданих захтева сиријске јавности за увођењем већих демократских права, за поштовањем личних слобода и за сузбијањем корупције. Предвиђено је ширење специфичних протеста, у складу са потребама непосредног окружења – једна тактика за велике градове, друга за варошице, трећа за сеоска насеља.
Носиоци протеста су распоређени у пет ,,мрежа". Прва је названа ,,погонско гориво" и образовали су је махом школовани, млади људи без посла. Друга мрежа је добила име ,,разбојници" и у њој су се обрели врбовани криминалци и личности судовима познате по насиљу. Трећа мрежа је обухватила ,,етнички и верски оријентисане младе људе". Четврта мрежа је обухватила припаднике медија, спремне да правовремено реагују и укажу на неправду коју подстиче режим у друштву. Пета група, најзад, обухватила је привреднике, пре свега у центрима попут Дамаска, Хомса и Алепа, којима је требало предочити да ће по свргавању режима доћи у прилику да боље послују.
Такозвани агитатори, специјализовани за дејства у свакој од мрежа, обучени су да аргументују и провоцирају – управо онако као што се трговачки путници обучавају да хвале робу и мотивишу потенцијалне купце на потпис купопродајног уговора.
Задатак подстицања немира, који би били коришћени за медијску кампању против режима, поверен је ,,ударној групи", састављеној од три ,,рода" агитатора. Неколико учесника би започело расправу у јавности, на улици на пример, која би прерасла у критику режима. Око њих, такозвани заштитници би образовали одбрамбени ред, онемогућавајући окупљене да спрече расправу.
,,Пустите људе да говоре", гласио је главни аргумент. Најзад, на сцену би ступила трећа група ,,очи", односно фотографи чије слике би се достављале медијима широм света.
Евидентна је подударност плана и каснијих реалних догађања. Тако су први немири избили у марту 2011. године у градићу Дара, управо по слову описаног сценарија. У центру сиромашне пољопривредне регије, погођене вишегодишњом сушом, организовани су протести које су потом подржале племенске вође и локални кланови ненаклоњени председнику Асаду. Клупко је почело да се одмотава.
Милош Казимировић објављено: 10.08.2012
да се наставимо на текст, још лепих 'слика' мејд ин германије, личе на оне које су производили деведесетих.
но после сиријског 'денија' ово му дође лака зајебанција уз тешке батине
Austria's paper Kronen Zeitung
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2F25z4j1x.jpg&hash=dc3bcddce443df28a626459b79631f0043dbd04e)
Da, te slike su pominjane pre par nedelja i u našoj štampi. Sramotno, ali je iskorišćena prilika da se podseti na još takvih primera iz skore i manje skore istorije. Ne valja verovati samo jednom izvoru. :lol:
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 11-08-2012, 22:34:19
Ne valja verovati samo jednom izvoru. :lol:
то наравно ако се данашњи медијски бизнис уопште може сматрати извором информација
Quote from: дејан on 11-08-2012, 23:20:28
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 11-08-2012, 22:34:19
Ne valja verovati samo jednom izvoru. :lol:
то наравно ако се данашњи медијски бизнис уопште може сматрати извором информација
KAd god se pomenu mediji ja se odma setim filma "Running Man" ( sa Svarcenegerom, da ne bude zabune )...
Zasto li to tako meni u glavi, ja ne znam..... :roll:
zato imamo twitter! :lol: :lol:
A mozda ovo i nije mesto, ali sad mi pade na pamet..
Zna li iko zasto Ameri u svojim Serijicama za opce pucanstvo stalno ismevaju Kanadu , kao oni su nesto ispod njih, ovde je sve bolje, itd...?
Ili je i to samo sit-kom humor koji ja ne kapiram?
Pa, kao što mi ismevamo Crnogorce ili već, Hrvate... Znaš da Kanađane zovu "snow mexicans".
Izmedju Kanade i SAD uvek ima sitnog podjebavanja.
Otprilike kao u odnosu Hrvatske i Slovenije.
U hrvatskoj seriji ,,Bitange i princeze'' imas stalno sale na racun Slovenije.
Malo malo pa neko kaze - Duhovit si ko humor u slovenskim serijama.
Kanadu u stvari ne vole americki konzervativci i hriscani koji su uglavnom skoncentrisani na jugu SAD.
Nervira ih sto je Kanada sekularnija, miroljubivija u medjunarodnoj politici,
posebno ih iritira sto Kanada priznaje gej brakove, zato sto je levlje ekonomske orijentacije
pa ima velika socijalna davanja za ugrozene.
A najvise ih nervira sto najseverniji stejtovi u SAD (najprogresivniji) slede taj primer.
Tako su po uzoru na Kanadu i stejtovi Masacusets i Njujork uveli gej brakove, slobodno ismevanje hriscanstva koje
je na jugu SAD nezamislivo itd.
Za americke konzervativce svo zlo dolazi sa severa ili preko okeana iz Francuske.
Nista manje ne preziru ni severnjake iz svoje drzave koje i dalje zovu Jenkijima.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-08-2012, 11:44:07
Pa, kao što mi ismevamo Crnogorce ili već, Hrvate... Znaš da Kanađane zovu "snow mexicans".
Sta samo tolko?
Ma mora da Ameri nesto njima zavide ili im treba nesto... :twisted:
Ne rade oni nista tek tako iz zajebancije kao mi...
Ne moze to tek tako lako da prodje bez ijedne teorije zavere! :wink:
edit: Loni se ubacio pre mene, nisam video, ali sam bio u pravu makar :!:
Kanađanke su među najlepšim američkim glumicama ;)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-gongloff/timothy-geithner-libor_b_1701904.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-gongloff/timothy-geithner-libor_b_1701904.html)
Tim Geithner Admits Banks Bailed Out With Rigged Libor, Costing Taxpayers Huge AmountQuoteTimothy Geithner claimed on Wednesday that the government had no choice during the financial crisis but to lend to banks and AIG using an interest rate, Libor, that everybody knew was flawed.
Call it a back-door bailout: By using an artificially low Libor, the government saved the banks and AIG millions, maybe billions -- and cost the taxpayers the same amount.
The use of Libor in the bailouts also rubber-stamped that hopelessly manipulated interest rate as a market measure, raising still more questions about just how worried Geithner and other regulators really were about it.
In a House Financial Services Committee hearing on Wednesday, Treasury Secretary Geithner was asked why Treasury and the Fed used the London Interbank Offered Rate as a basis for loans to insurance giant American International Group and to U.S. banks under the Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility -- even though Geithner and other regulators had long suspected that Libor was artificially low, as Geithner testified.
"We were in the position of investors around the world," Geithner shrugged. "You have to choose a rate, and we did what everybody did -- use the best rate available at the time."
Jednostavno, morali su da ukradu :roll:
QuoteMultimilijarder George Soros, odlučio je još jednom stati pred oltar. A vijest o zarukama s Tamiko Bolton (40) objavio je ni manje ni više nego li na svoj 82. rođendan.
George Soros i Tamiko Bolton upoznali su se prije četiri godine, a službeno su objavili zaruke na zabavi u Sorosevoj ljetnoj rezidenciji u Southamptonu, u državi New Yorku. Tamiko Bolton je konzultatinca u dijelu zdravstvenog osiguranja i eudukacije. Ovo će biti njen drugi brak. George Soros pak, sedmi je najbogatiji čovjek u Americi. Ovo će mu biti treći brak, te ima petero djece iz prethodnih brakova.
Par je svojim prijateljima najavio da će vjenčanje biti sljedećeg ljeta vjerojatno u istoj rezidenciji gdje su i zaruke objavljene.
George Soros proslavio 82. rođendan i zaručio se (http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/george-soros-proslavio-82-rodendan-zarucio-se-clanak-441328)
qpuke
Ono sto Amerikanci zavide Kanadjanima je visi procenat obrazovanog stanvnistva.
Tokom 2 decenije (Mislim da je rec o 70.tim i 80.tim) Kanada je imala zakon da maltene prima samo emigrante sa fakultetskom diplomom.
Dok je USA primala sve zive, pa je sastav stanovnistva kao uzet sa stapa i kanapa, severni sused je davao dokumenta obrazovanima.
Fizicki radnici su dolazili tamo samo na odredjeno vreme da rade.
To naravno nije ok od Kanade jer i to je diskriminacija.
Medjutim cilj nije birao sredstva pa Kanada danas u tim generacijama ima najobrazovanije stanovnistvo na svetu. Kupili su mozgove iz celog sveta,
dok je USA tada primala jeftinu radnu snagu iz Azije, Afrike, Latinske Amerike itd.
Sva je uzimao ono sto mu je trebalo.
Americi treba auditorijum za svoje idiotske blokbastere :cry:
Ili snimaju idiocke blokbastre da pacifikuju jeftinu uvezenu radnu snagu? :cry:
Suprajz suprajz!
Šta sam ja ovde pričo i kome?
:cry:
http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/im-sick-to-my-stomach-anger-grows-in-illinois-at-bains-latest-outsourcing-plan/19284/ (http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/im-sick-to-my-stomach-anger-grows-in-illinois-at-bains-latest-outsourcing-plan/19284/)
'I'm sick to my stomach': anger grows in Illinois at Bain's latest outsourcing planQuoteGuardian UK (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/aug/10/illinois-workers-bain-outsourcing) The shock of losing a precious job in a town afflicted by high unemployment is always hard. A foundation for a stable family life and secure home instantly disappears, replaced with a future filled with fears over health insurance, missed mortgage payments and the potential for a slip below the breadline.
But for Bonnie Borman – and 170 other men and women in Freeport,Illinois (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/illinois) – there is a brutal twist to the torture.
Borman, 52, and the other workers of a soon-to-be-shuttered car parts plant are personally training the Chinese workers who will replace them.
It's a surreal experience, they say. For months they have watched their plant being dismantled and shipped to China, piece by piece, as they show teams of Chinese workers how to do the jobs they have dedicated their lives to.
"It's not easy to get up in the morning, training them to do your job so that you can be made unemployed," said Borman, pictured, a mother of three who has worked for 23 years at the Sensata auto sensors plant.
Ne beri gajle. Kad Kinezi postanu preskupi sve će da presele kod nas.
Al zato su Englezi aktivirali dronove da lete obalom i otkrivaju teroriste i imigrante :D
Porn group: filming to halt during syphilis probe (http://news.yahoo.com/porn-group-filming-halt-during-syphilis-probe-021153355.html)
QuoteLOS ANGELES (AP) — A pornography trade group has called for a nationwide filming moratorium while performers are tested for syphilis and Los Angeles County public health officials investigate a possible outbreak of the sexually transmitted disease.
One performer has tested positive, and the performer's sexual partners are being notified, according to Joanne Cachapero, a spokeswoman for the Free Speech Coalition.
The voluntary, temporary moratorium on production is expected to shutter a multi-billion dollar industry "until the risk to performers in the industry has been properly assessed and all performers have been tested," the trade association said in a statement.
On Friday, the Los Angeles County Public Health Department announced an investigation into at least five possible cases of syphilis that were reported last week.
Cachapero said the group is calling on all performers, more than 1,000, to be tested. Because the illness can be difficult to detect, the trade group's medical experts have ordered preventative shots of antibiotics for performers. After performers get the shots, they can go back to work within 10 days, Cachapero said.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, syphilis is transmitted through direct contact with syphilis sores, which mainly occur on the external genitals, vagina, anus or inside the rectum. The disease can be transmitted through a variety of sex acts.
A single shot of penicillin can cure a person who has had syphilis for less than a year, according to the CDC. Additional doses are necessary for people who have had the STD for a longer period.
County public health spokeswoman Sarah Kissell acknowledged the investigation Monday but declined an interview seeking details of its scope or an update of its findings.
The porn industry has held self-imposed moratoriums following news of diseased performers before.
In 2011, major porn producers stopped filming for nearly a week after an adult film performer tested positive for HIV, which causes AIDS. The Free Speech Coalition said the case was later determined to have been a false report.
In late 2010, porn actor Derrick Burts was diagnosed as HIV-positive, and his case was confirmed, briefly halting production.
In 2004, at least five performers tested positive for HIV, prompting another brief self-imposed moratorium.
The AIDS Healthcare Foundation, an advocacy group that has called for the use of condoms in all pornography, said Monday that the industry is incapable of policing itself and protecting its performers.
The group is backing a November ballot measure that will allow Los Angeles county voters to mandate the use of condoms during pornography shoots.
The Free Speech Coalition opposes the measure, saying the industry is a tight-knit community that has been proactive in testing and protecting the welfare of performers.
Neverovatni idioti:
Day-care workers accused of urging toddlers to fight -- on video
LATimes - Three Delaware day-care workers are accused of urging two 3-year-old toddlers to fight each other while the adults egged them on — and videotaped it, police said. "No pinching, only punching," one of the adults allegedly coaches the children. It's the story that is setting the Internet on fire Tuesday, along with "toddler fight club" headlines. The suspects have been charged with assault, endangering the welfare of a child, reckless endangerment and conspiracy. They were identified as Tiana Harris, 19, and Lisa Parker, 47, both of Dover; and Estefania Myers, 21, of Felton. "One of the kids involved ran over to one of the adults for protection, but she turned him around back into the fight."The children "were just wailing on each other," Stump said in an interview on NBC10, WCAU. "I mean punching, slapping, pinching, throwing each other into tables." The video allegedly shows the adults urging the kids to duke it out, with fists. The video is not being made public at this time, authorities say, because it's evidence.Police say that one of the children can be heard in the video saying "He's pinching me!," according to CBS Philly. One of the day-care workers allegedly responds, "No pinching, only punching," the TV station report.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-toddler-fight-club-video-20120821,0,4936963.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-toddler-fight-club-video-20120821,0,4936963.story)
Isto to se dešava sa celim narodima. Zavadi pa vladaj. Kontroliši rulju skretanjem pažnje. Navedi rulju da troši energiju na aktivnosti koje ne ugrožavaju postojeći poredak.
Ovi Teksašani su URNEBESNI. Ja povremeno zaboravljam da tamo ima ljudi koji ozbiljno misle da postoji zavera da se američki suverenitet preda u ruke Ujedinjenih Nacija i da će trupe UN okupirati teritoriju USA :lol: :lol:
Texas judge warns of possible 'civil war' if President Obama is re-elected (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/texas-judge-warns-possible-civil-war-president-obama-230545603.html)
Quote
What is it about election years?
As if the negative political ads aren't enough, now a county judge in Lubbock, Texas, predicts possible "civil war" if President Obama is re-elected.
Judge Tom Head was on a local TV news show (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/www.myfoxlubbock.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=3714551) making his case for a tax increase, when he said hiring extra sheriff's deputies would especially be needed if Obama wins in November.
From Lubbock's Fox 34 News (http://www.myfoxlubbock.com/mostpopular/story/Lubbock-tom-head-tax-rates-president-obama/PeO4Q8GeGEiy_FpxheUnmA.cspx):
"He's going to try to hand over the sovereignty of the United States to the U.N., and what is going to happen when that happens?," Head asked.
"I'm thinking the worst. Civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war maybe. And we're not just talking a few riots here and demonstrations, we're talking Lexington, Concord, take up arms and get rid of the guy.
"Now what's going to happen if we do that, if the public decides to do that? He's going to send in U.N. troops. I don't want 'em in Lubbock County. OK. So I'm going to stand in front of their armored personnel carrier and say 'you're not coming in here'.
"And the sheriff, I've already asked him, I said 'you gonna back me' he said, 'yeah, I'll back you'. Well, I don't want a bunch of rookies back there. I want trained, equipped, seasoned veteran officers to back me."
Sheriff Kelly Rowe told a Lubbock newspaper reporter he has never discussed any of the scenarios with the judge.
On Wednesday, Judge Head explained his remarks in a video interview with the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal (http://lubbockonline.com/filed-online/2012-08-22/judge-tom-head-invokes-what-if-obama-re-elected-get-more-money-public-safety#.UDVn4qN618E). He said his original comments were taken out of context. But as the county's emergency management director, he said he has to keep a "worst case scenario" in mind if Obama returns to the White House and Democrats control the Senate.
"I have some opinions what they're doing and what they're trying to do if they stay in power," he said. "And I have to prepare for that."
Ja lično video bilbordove kraj hajveja koji razobličuju zavere protiv Teksasa. :!:
Nema adekvatne teme na sporckom forumu a i ovo je i inače nesportski ukus:
USADA to strip Lance Armstrong of 7 Tour titles (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/usada-strip-lance-armstrong-7-tour-titles-031949504--spt.html)
QuoteAUSTIN, Texas (AP) — With stunning swiftness, the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency said Thursday night it will strip Lance Armstrong of his unprecedented seven Tour de France (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/london-2012/france/) titles after he dropped his fight against drug charges that threatened his legacy as one of the greatest cyclists of all time.
Travis Tygart, USADA's chief executive, said Armstrong would also be hit with a lifetime ban on Friday. Under the World Anti-Doping Code, he could lose other awards, event titles and cash earnings while the International Olympic Committee might look at the bronze medal he won in the 2000 Games.
Armstrong, who retired last year, effectively dropped his fight by declining to enter USADA's arbitration process — his last option — because he said he was weary of fighting accusations that have dogged him for years. He has consistently pointed to the hundreds of drug tests he passed as proof of his innocence while piling up Tour titles from 1999 to 2005.
"There comes a point in every man's life when he has to say, 'Enough is enough.' For me, that time is now," Armstrong said. He called the USADA investigation an "unconstitutional witch hunt."
"I have been dealing with claims that I cheated and had an unfair advantage in winning my seven Tours since 1999," he said. "The toll this has taken on my family and my work for our foundation and on me leads me to where I am today — finished with this nonsense."
USADA reacted quickly and treated Armstrong's decision as an admission of guilt, hanging the label of drug cheat on an athlete who was a hero to thousands for overcoming life-threatening testicular cancer and for his foundation's support for cancer research.
"It is a sad day for all of us who love sport and athletes," Tygart said. "It's a heartbreaking example of win at all costs overtaking the fair and safe option. There's no success in cheating to win."
Tygart said the agency had the power to strip the Tour titles, though Armstrong disputed that.
"USADA cannot assert control of a professional international sport and attempt to strip my seven Tour de France (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/london-2012/france/) titles," he said. "I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours."
Still to be heard from was the sport's governing body, the International Cycling (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/london-2012/cycling/) Union, which had backed Armstrong's legal challenge to USADA's authority and in theory could take the case before the international Court of Arbitration for Sport.
Tygart said UCI was "bound to recognize our decision and impose it" as a signer of the World Anti-Doping Code.
"They have no choice but to strip the titles under the code," he said.
USADA maintains that Armstrong has used banned substances as far back as 1996, including the blood-booster EPO and steroids as well as blood transfusions — all to boost his performance.
The 40-year-old Armstrong walked away from the sport in 2011 without being charged following a two-year federal criminal investigation into many of the same accusations he faces from USADA.
The federal probe was closed in February, but USADA announced in June it had evidence Armstrong used banned substances and methods — and encouraged their use by teammates. The agency also said it had blood tests from 2009 and 2010 that were "fully consistent" with blood doping.
Included in USADA's evidence were emails written by Armstrong's former U.S. Postal Service teammate Floyd Landis, who was stripped of his 2006 Tour de France title after a positive drug test. Landis' emails to a USA Cycling (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/london-2012/cycling/) official detailed allegations of a complex doping program on the team.
USADA also said it had 10 former Armstrong teammates ready to testify against him. Other than suggesting they include Landis and Tyler Hamilton, both of whom have admitted to doping offenses, the agency has refused to say who they are or specifically what they would say.
"There is zero physical evidence to support (the) outlandish and heinous claims," Armstrong said. "The only physical evidence here is the hundreds of (doping) controls I have passed with flying colors."
Armstrong sued USADA in Austin, where he lives, in an attempt to block the case and was supported by the UCI. A judge threw out the case on Monday, siding with USADA despite questioning the agency's pursuit of Armstrong in his retirement.
"USADA's conduct raises serious questions about whether its real interest in charging Armstrong is to combat doping, or if it is acting according to less noble motives," such as politics or publicity, U.S. District Judge Sam Sparks wrote.
Even if UCI and USADA differ on the Tour titles, the ultra-competitive Armstrong has still done something virtually unthinkable for him: He quit before a fight is over.
It was a stunning move for an athlete who built his reputation on not only beating cancer, but forcing himself through grueling offseason workouts no one else could match, then crushing his rivals in the Alps and the Pyrenees.
"Today I turn the page. I will no longer address this issue, regardless of the circumstances," he said. "I will commit myself to the work I began before ever winning a single Tour de France title: serving people and families affected by cancer, especially those in underserved communities."
Armstrong could have pressed his innocence in USADA's arbitration process, which would have included a hearing during which evidence against him would have been presented. But the cyclist has said he believes most people have already made up their minds about whether he's a fraud or a persecuted hero.
Although he had already been crowned a world champion and won individual stages at the Tour de France, Armstrong was still relatively unknown in the U.S. until he won the epic race for the first time in 1999. It was the ultimate comeback tale: When diagnosed with cancer, doctors had given him less than a 50 percent chance of survival before surgery and brutal cycles of chemotherapy saved his life.
Armstrong's riveting victories, his work for cancer awareness and his gossip-page romances with rocker Sheryl Crow, fashion designer Tory Burch and actress Kate Hudson made him a figure who transcended sports.
His dominance of the Tour de France elevated the sport's popularity in America to unprecedented levels. His story and success helped sell millions of the "Livestrong" plastic yellow wrist bracelets, and enabled him to enlist lawmakers and global policymakers to promote cancer awareness and research. His Lance Armstrong Foundation has raised nearly $500 million since its founding in 1997.
Jeffery C. Gervey, chairman of the foundation, issued a statement of support saying:
"Faced with a biased process whose outcome seems predetermined, Lance chose to put his family and his foundation first," Gervey said. "The leadership of the Lance Armstrong Foundation remain incredibly proud of our founder's achievements, both on and off the bike."
Created in 2000, USADA is recognized by Congress as the official anti-doping agency for Olympic sports in the United States (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/london-2012/united-states/). Its investigators joined U.S. agents during the federal investigation of Armstrong. Tygart dismissed Armstrong's lawsuit as an attempt at "concealing the truth," saying the agency is motivated by one goal — exposing cheaters.
Armstrong had tense public disputes with USADA, the World Anti-Doping Agency, some former teammates and assistants and even Greg LeMond, the first American to win the Tour de France.
"He had a right to contest the charges," WADA President John Fahey said after Armstrong's announcement. "He chose not to. The simple fact is that his refusal to examine the evidence means the charges had substance in them."
Others close to Armstrong were caught up in the investigations, too: Johan Bruyneel, the coach of Armstrong's teams, and three members of the medical staff and a consultant were also charged. Bruyneel is taking his case to arbitration, while two medical team staffers and consulting doctor Michele Ferrari didn't formally contest the charges and were issued lifetime ban by USADA. Ferrari later said he was innocent.
Questions surfaced even as Armstrong was on his way to his first Tour victory. He was leading the 1999 race when a trace amount of a banned anti-inflammatory corticosteroid was found in his urine; cycling officials said he was authorized to use a small amount of a cream to treat saddle sores.
After Armstrong's second victory in 2000, French judicial officials investigated his Postal Service team for drug use. That investigation ended with no charges, but the allegations kept coming.
Armstrong was criticized for his relationship with Ferrari, who was banned by Italian authorities over doping charges in 2002. Former personal and team assistants accused Armstrong of having steroids in an apartment in Spain (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/london-2012/spain/) and disposing of syringes that were used for injections.
In 2004, a Dallas-based promotions company initially refused to pay him a $5 million bonus for winning his sixth Tour de France because it wanted to investigate allegations raised by media in Europe. Testimony in that case included former teammate Frankie Andreu and his wife, Betsy, saying Armstrong told doctors during his 1996 cancer treatments that he had taken a cornucopia of steroids and performance-enhancing drugs.
Two books published in Europe, "L.A. Confidential" and "L.A. Official," also raised doping allegations and, in 2005, French magazine L'Equipe reported that retested urine samples from the 1999 Tour showed EPO use.
Armstrong fought every accusation with denials and, in some cases, lawsuits against media outlets that reported them.
He retired in 2005 and almost immediately considered a comeback before deciding to stay on the sidelines — in part because he didn't want to keep answering doping questions.
"I'm sick of this," Armstrong said in 2005. "Sitting here today, dealing with all this stuff again, knowing if I were to go back, there's no way I could get a fair shake — on the roadside, in doping control, or the labs."
Three years later, Armstrong was 36 and itching to ride again. He came back to finish third in the 2009 Tour de France.
Armstrong raced again in 2010 under the cloud of the federal investigation. Early last year, he quit the sport for good, making a brief return as a triathlete until the USADA investigation shut him down.
During his sworn testimony in the dispute over the $5 million bonus, Armstrong said he wouldn't take drugs because he had too much to lose.
"(The) faith of all the cancer survivors around the world. Everything I do off the bike would go away, too," Armstrong said then. "And don't think for a second I don't understand that. It's not about money for me. Everything. It's also about the faith that people have put in me over the years. So all of that would be erased."
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993 (http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993)
'Pregnancy Begins 2 Weeks Before Conception' Now The Law In ArizonaQuoteIn Arizona, women are now legally pregnant two weeks before conception, according to a new law, the Orwellianly-named, "Women's Health and Safety Act," signed yesterday by Republican Governor Jan Brewer. The scientifically, medically, ethically, and intellectually dishonest legislation is designed to reduce the amount of time a woman is allowed to have a legal abortion, and is one of the most draconian bills to become law in America.
The bill was sponsored by extremist Arizona State Rep. Kimberly Yee, (image, right) who last month penned an op-ed titled, "No drug test, no welfare." Yee wrote:
States have an obligation to hold those on public assistance accountable for their actions. Receiving a public benefit is a privilege, not a right. The debate on drug testing welfare recipients is simply about the responsible use of tax dollars.
It's unclear where in the U.S. constitution it states that the states "have an obligation to hold those on public assistance accountable for their actions."
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Porašće zarada na abortusima u domaćoj radinosti.
Pa, to je najčešće najvidljiviji rezultat ograničavanja broja legalnih abortusa. Avaj, to znači da više žena radi abortuse u nehigijenskim, opasnim uslovima.
Sad su sve žene po definiciji u drugom stanju, dok se drukčije ne dokaže :|
Ima ih i koje se snalaze:
NYC Woman Moving To AZ For 'Pregnancy Begins 2 Weeks Before Conception' Law (http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/nyc-woman-moving-to-az-for-pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-law/politics/2012/04/27/38650)
QuoteTaylor Ferrara (http://www.youtube.com/user/TaylorFerrera), a New York City woman, says in this video she is moving to Arizona (http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/?s=Arizona) to benefit from their new "pregnancy begins two weeks before conception (http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993)" law, which she references on her YouTube page, that The New Civil Rights Movement reported on two weeks ago.
In Arizona, women are now legally pregnant two weeks before conception (http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pregnancy-begins-2-weeks-before-conception-now-the-law-in-arizona/politics/2012/04/13/37993), according to a new law designed to restrict abortion, signed into law by Governor Jan Brewer earlier this month.
Certainly one aspect Arizona lawmakers probably didn't expect. Another — she threatens she'll move back to New York to have an "abortion" if they don't treat her like a pregnant woman deserves to be treated.
We like Taylor Ferrara a lot.
I'm Moving to Arizona!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17bfFzLQc7g#)
O svasta :shock:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/school-asks-deaf-preschooler-change-sign-language-name-191629255.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/school-asks-deaf-preschooler-change-sign-language-name-191629255.html)
Three-and-a-half year old Hunter Spanjer, who is deaf, signs his name by crossing his forefinger and index finger and moving his hand up and down.
To his family, friends and those who know the Signing Exact English (S.E.E.) language that the Grand Island, Neb., boy uses, that gesture uniquely means "Hunter Spanjer."
But to Hunter's school district, it might mean something else. The district claims that it violates a rule that forbids anything in the school that looks like a weapon, reports KOLN-TV.
And Hunter's parents claim that Grand Island Pubic Schools administrators have asked them to change their son's sign language name.
"Anybody that I have talked to thinks this is absolutely ridiculous," Hunter's grandmother Janet Logue told the TV station. "This is not threatening in any way."
Hunter's father Brian Spanjer said, "It's a symbol. It's an actual sign, a registered sign, through S.E.E."
The family told KOLN that lawyers from the National Association of the Deaf may push for Hunter's right to sign his name at the school.
Jack Sheard, Grand Island Public Schools spokesperson told KOLN, "We are working with the parents to come to the best solution we can for the child."
One Grand Island resident said she disagrees with the school.
"I find it very difficult to believe that the sign language that shows his name resembles a gun in any way would even enter a child's mind," Fredda Bartenbach said in the news report.
:x :x
Odmah sam se setio broja 4 sa ove liste. :(
http://www.cracked.com/article_19797_5-true-tales-good-fortune-with-horribly-cruel-plot-twists.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_19797_5-true-tales-good-fortune-with-horribly-cruel-plot-twists.html)
Nije indikativno ali možda i jeste :x
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/30/police-100-year-old-driver-hits-11-near-la-school/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/30/police-100-year-old-driver-hits-11-near-la-school/)
Voženje kola je životni preduslov za Amere. Vozili bi i iz mrtvačkog sanduka da mogu. Moj prijatelj je pre tri meseca otišao u SAD da prebaci majku iz Arizone u Floridu, da ne pominjem koliko ima godina, i sve vreme se sa njom svađao jer je insistirala da i ona vozi.
http://nourishedkitchen.com/farm-to-consumer-legal-defense-fund-dinner/?utm_source=Newsletter+List&utm_campaign=45ad596bd1-FTCLDF-Dinner++RSS&utm_medium=email (http://nourishedkitchen.com/farm-to-consumer-legal-defense-fund-dinner/?utm_source=Newsletter+List&utm_campaign=45ad596bd1-FTCLDF-Dinner++RSS&utm_medium=email)
Romni u nebranom grožđu. Doduše, ne znam zašto ove likove zovu hakerima kada su fizički provalili u zgradu i ukrali fizičke dokumente... Valjda zato što novac od ucene traže u bitcoinima?
Romney's Taxes Hacked? Secret Service Is On It (http://mashable.com/2012/09/05/romney-tax-hackers-secret-service/)
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The hackers who claim to have stolen Mitt Romney's tax returns — and are holding them to ransom for $1 million in bitcoins — just became the targets of a federal investigation.
As we mentioned (http://mashable.com/2012/09/05/hacker-ransom-romney-tax-returns/) earlier, the unidentified team of hackers described the theft on Pastebin. That's the same data-dump website where a treasure trove of one million Apple device IDs, allegedly taken from an FBI laptop, was found. The FBI later denied they'd been hacked.
The Romney hackers, by contrast, offered no proof — just a description of an elaborate burglary inside PriceWaterhouseCooper's Tennessee office on Aug. 25, where they supposedly retrieved the tax returns that the GOP candidate has declined to release.
Romney's team was given until Sept. 28 to transfer $1 million in bitcoins (http://mashable.com/2012/09/05/bitcoin-bitfloor-hacked/) (an untraceable online currency popular in the criminal underworld). Otherwise, the hackers said, the tax returns would either go to the highest bidder or be released on Pastebin for all to read.
Ironically, one of the world's largest bitcoin exchanges — Bitfloor — halted trading Wednesday (http://mashable.com/2012/09/05/bitcoin-bitfloor-hacked/) after being hit by hackers itself.
Whether or not the hackers are blowing smoke, attempted blackmail of a presidential candidate is a pretty serious offense. So the Secret Service is investigating, a spokesperson told CNET (http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57506843-83/feds-probe-alleged-hacking-theft-of-romneys-tax-returns/).
The agency, formerly a department of the U.S. Treasury (and now part of Homeland Security), investigates financial crimes alongside its more well-known role of protecting Presidents and candidates. So it couldn't be better placed to tackle this one.
Given that the tax return theft was described in such precise detail, it should be the work of a moment for agents to find out if it actually happened. Tracking down the hackers in question may take a little longer.
Will this help take the pressure off Romney, who has been under fire for not releasing as many tax returns as previous presidential candidates? Give us your take in the comments.
A u nastavku priče, Lari Flint dosoljava:
Larry Flynt offering $1 million for Romney's financial records (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/larry-flynt-offering-1million-romney-financial-records-005711363--election.html)
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Hustler magazine publisher, and self-described free speech activist (http://larryflynt.com/), Larry Flynt is offering $1 million for anyone who will provide him with Mitt Romney's financial records.
Flynt, 69, has purchased full-page ads in Sunday's Washington Post and Tuesday's, September 11 issue of USA Today.
"What is he hiding?" the ad text reads, "Maybe, now, we'll find out." The ad also includes a phone number and email address where anyone with information can contact Flynt.
A press release credited to Hustler (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/08/hustler-magazine-offers-1-million-for-a-different-type-of-exposure/) says Flynt is "offering up to a million dollars in cash for documented evidence concerning Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney's unreleased tax returns and/or details of his offshore assets, bank accounts and business partnerships."
Romney has only agreed to release his 2010 and 2011 tax returns so far.
On Friday, the Secret Service and FBI announced they are investigating an anonymous letter from an individual claiming to have stolen copies of Romney's tax returns. (http://news.yahoo.com/claim-romney-taxes-theft-puzzling-whodunit-223541746.html) The letter reportedly demands $1 million in hard to trace Internet funds. Romney's accounting firm, PricewaterhouseCoopers, has denied that any records were stolen.
Flynt, a registered Democrat who once ran for president as a Republican, is no stranger to politics. And he's certainly no stranger to offering $1 million rewards for his various political interests. He's made similar offers against everything including a request to debunk the Warren Commission's investigation into the death of John F. Kennedy to most recently asking for evidence supporting his belief that Texas Governor Rick Perry was guilty of infidelity (http://news.yahoo.com/larry-flynt-offers-1-million-sexual-dirt-perry-205407415.html).
Back during the impeachment trial of then-President Bill Clinton, Flynt made a $1 million offer for evidence of marital infidelity against Republican members of the House who were leading the trial against Clinton. That offer led to incoming House Speaker Bob Livingston resigning after evidence of his own affair was publicly revealed.
In 2007, Flynt offered a financial reward for evidence showing that Louisiana Republican Senator David Vitter had cheated on his wife. Vitter has remained in office, even after the evidence was made public.
Back in 2003, Flynt was one of several atypical candidates to run in the California gubernatorial recall election to replace Democrat Gray Davis.
Flynt has also run into some political troubles of his own recently. In August, California's Fair Political Practices Commission accused him of failing to report campaign donations in a timely manner (http://blog.pe.com/political-empire/2012/08/15/larry-flynt-warned-by-state-campaign-finance-agency-2/) that Flynt made to a state assembly candidate. However, Flynt was not fined by the agency since he filed his report immediately after the complaint was issued.
Конгресмен из Ајове појашњава зашто треба забранити абортусе, с акцентом на оне на силованим малолетницама. :roll: После иде неко тупљење о борбама паса, али првих 45 секунди је тако... амерички. :twisted:
Rep. Steve King (R-IA) Clarifies Statements On Dog Fighting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKJ7oVy20eo#ws)
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: ovaj lud????
Не желиш да знаш "јавну дебату" која је претходила овом објашњењу. :(
Siguran sam da je bila neprijatna.
С тим у вези, овај морон је кандидат за Сенат. Вреди послушати цело баљезгање, слободне асоцијације, бесрамну војну пропаганду, али права ствар је од 2.21... Е, ту креће заиста FTW?!?! моменат. :lol:
Todd Akin's extreme anti-choice positions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M09iWwKiDsA#ws)
Kačio sam ja vesti o njegovom objašnjenju "legitimnog silovanja" na D. Reaguj. Teški ludak. Mislim, kapiram da i većina republikanaca misli da je prilična budala jer ove njegove priče zvuče gotovo parodično bez obzira na politički stav koga zastupate...
За све то сам сазнао гледајући Comedy Central. 8-)
Мада не мислим да је он у овом случају мислио "легитимно", већ - стварно. Оно као - ако је жена стварно силована, онда се покрећу ти тајанствени процеси. Или као Стивен Колберт каже - ако затрудни, то је доказ да није силована. :lol:
А Кинг је подржао Ејкина, али се заглибио и са поређењем имиграната са псима, отуда усред приче о псима сјајна сторија о силоватељу који из школског дворишта одведе клинку у другу државу, абортира је и - шта ће - па наравно, врати је на игралиште! Ко би се тога сетио?
Америка! Запад! Хел јеа! :| Да могу, гласао бих за Ромнија, навијао сам против Обаме и за прошле америчке изборе, има негде на форуму.
Apropo... jedna od interesantnih nedoslednosti gorućih pitanja u Americi jeste to da su u principu pitanje abortusa i pitanje regulacije oružja dve strane iste medalje, a podeljenost duž partijskih linija je obrnuta na ta dva polja.
Hoću reći, ne bi li trebalo da oni koji su za ograničavanje lične slobode kada je pitanje abortusa takođe i zastupaju strožu kontrolu oružja na federalnom nivou? Odnosno, ne bi li oni koji su pro-choice takođe trebalo da podržavaju i neograničenu slobodu posedovanja oružja? :lol:
Il' si za slobodu, il' si za mešanje države-dadilje. :lol:
Po pitanju abortusa obe strane veruju da su pro-choice, s tim što jedna strana zastupa izbor trudnice, a druga izbor nerođene bebe. Podrazumeva se da svaki oblik života želi da živi.
Не видим како је то повезано, осим ако не прихватимо речи оног мамлаза који прича о томе како Америка цени живот. 8)
С тим у вези, обе америчке партије су једнако ратоборне, тако да...
Quote from: Джон Рейнольдс on 09-09-2012, 22:53:03
С тим у вези, обе америчке партије су једнако ратоборне, тако да...
Наравно. Али Ромни (о Санторуму да и не говорим) је далеко забавнији од Обмане, заједно са својом кликом.
Наравна ствар, а и ваљда би нам после избора Ромнија забаву донели и српски грађаноиди који су се онолико радовали Обмани ко да им је из ока испао. Додуше, можда је одушевљење у међувремену спласло, ко зна.
А све вести из стожера Имеприје Зла треба пратити преко Комеди сентрала. Они су изразито "демократски" оријентисани, па су Ромни и екипа још урнебеснији и делују као већи цареви, док ови што им се клибере делују као мајмуни. Дакле, вин-вин ситуација.
Amerikanci su, ako ništa drugo, preduzimljivi
Look-Alike Sites Funnel Big Money to Mystery PAC (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/look-alike-sites-funnel-big-money-to-mystery-pac/262150/)
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The mysterious CAPE PAC has netted more than $570,000 from apparently snookered donors. Where is the money going? (https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.theatlantic.com%2Fstatic%2Fmt%2Fassets%2Fpolitics%2FallenwestCAPEPAC.banner.screenshot.jpg&hash=9012ca9c032b96fb11f1ec47f90f66bcb25c4f88) Screenshot Noam Neusner, a former White House speechwriter for President George W. Bush, thought he had given $250 to Ohio GOP Senate candidate Josh Mandel (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/is-josh-mandel-the-next-marco-rubio/253956/).
He hadn't.
Instead, Neusner was one of nearly 3,000 donors who stumbled onto a network of look-alike campaign websites that have netted more than $570,000 this year in what some are calling a sophisticated political phishing scheme.
The websites have the trappings of official campaign pages: smiling candidate photos and videos, issue pages, and a large red "donate" button at the top. Except that proceeds from the shadow sites go not to the candidates pictured, but to an obscure conservative group run by an Arizona activist.
Such doppelgänger sites exist for nearly three-dozen prominent GOP figures, including presidential nominee Mitt Romney, House Speaker John Boehner, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, and donation magnets such as Reps. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota and Allen West of Florida.
Peter Pasi, who specializes in digital GOP fundraising, said the group is "exploiting donors." "The intent is to trade on someone else's name for your benefit," he said. Republican officials are concerned that the group, the Coalition of Americans for Political Equality PAC, is siphoning away money from needy GOP candidates while duping donors.
"The only thing they are doing is lining their pockets and funding their own operation," said Chris LaCivita, a strategist for West, whose campaign lawyers recently filed a complaint against CAPE PAC with the Federal Election Commission.
A critical unanswered question is who, if anyone, is profiting from the enterprise. More than $250,000 of the group's spending -- nearly half -- has gone to two companies with limited paper trails, neither of which has been hired by any other federal campaign in the last two years, federal records show. CAPE PAC Chairman Jeff Loyd, a former county GOP chairman in Arizona, declined an interview about the group. He said in an emailed statement: "Our candidate websites, videos, and get-out-the-vote messages clearly state who we are and our mission." "If a donor inadvertently gives to CAPE PAC and requests a refund, we immediately comply," Loyd said. "These instances have been few and far between ... [we] are unaware of any issue that remains unresolved."
CAPE PAC's model is to buy Google ads -- about $290,000 worth, as of the end of June -- to promote its network of candidate sites whenever people search for prominent GOP officials. A search for "Mitt Romney," for instance, often leads to two sponsored results: Romney's official site and CAPE PAC's mittromneyin2012.com (http://www.mittromneyin2012.com/).
Once on a CAPE PAC site, users would have to notice fine print at either the top or bottom of the page revealing that they were not on the official page of their favored politician. A dozen donors, including some experienced Washington hands such as Neusner, had no idea they had contributed to the group before National Journal Daily contacted them.
"Clearly, it's deceptive and it's wrong and it's hurting good, Republican conservative candidates," Neusner said. He has since asked for a refund, which he said the group is processing.
It is impossible to tell how many of the almost 3,000 people who have given to CAPE PAC have done so mistakenly. CAPE PAC said it has a "100 percent refund policy" when donors ask; it issued more than $50,000 in refunds in the second quarter.
"I've been swindled," said one D.C. veteran, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the donor's job includes directing campaign contributions. "I was under the impression that I was giving to the Romney campaign. I'm certainly going to be asking for my money back."
The donor noted that if seasoned political professionals are being fooled, then many more lay donors are likely giving in error.
"It confused me, and I do this for a living," said Patrick Raffaniello, a Washington lobbyist with two decades' experience whose bookkeeper gave $2,250 to CAPE PAC thinking it was going to Rep. Dave Camp of Michigan. Raffaniello thought his bookkeeper errantly gave to Camp's PAC, not directly to his reelection campaign as Raffaniello had intended, and he sought a refund. He did not know until contacted by National Journal Daily where his money really went.
"That's pretty sophisticated phishing," he said. "It looks official. It looks as good as anything .... I'm glad I got my money back."
CAPE PAC's network of microsites does not appear to break election law; the group discloses itself as the operator on every page. But "just because it's legal doesn't make it right," said Pasi.
The group first made waves in March, when it bought search ads for GOP Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts. Brown and his Democratic opponent, Elizabeth Warren, had pledged to swear off outside advertising. Warren said the CAPE PAC ads violated their agreement and Brown paid a fine for not honoring the pledge.
CAPE PAC has been on the radar of Boehner's political operation, as well. "Our campaign continues to monitor this situation, and we're concerned that some donors are finding CAPE PAC's site very confusing," said Boehner spokesman Cory Fritz. He urged donors to call a campaign before making online contributions.
CAPE PAC's biggest expenditure has been on Google ads promoting candidates. After search ads, the most money went to a pair of Delaware-incorporated companies with almost no public profile -- both of which got money from CAPE PAC on June 30 and then registered domain names 10 days later.
A $178,200 payment went to Fly-Ur-Flag for "media and advertisements." It is not clear who operates the firm, or who its other clients of any kind are. The company received the CAPE PAC payment on June 30 and registered its website domain -- flyurflag.biz (http://flyurflag.biz/) -- on July 9. The bare-bones website has no contact information and lists no staff.
"We are currently managing over 30 campaigns across the United States of America for the 2012 election cycle," the site claims.
CAPE PAC lists 33 candidates it supports.
Another $85,000 went to GoMobile Technology. Although the domain for that firm -- gomobiletech.net -- is now registered, no website has been launched.
No other federal candidate or committee has hired either Fly-Ur-Flag or GoMobile Technology this election cycle, according to FEC records. In his statement, Loyd said that, "Aside from our vendor agreements, none of the members of CAPE PAC have any relationship with these vendors."
Loyd is also CEO of a digital marketing firm, Paperleaf Media, according to his LinkedIn profile. The company touts its expertise "in understanding were [sic] to advertise to drive traffic that will convert into new customers."
Through June 30, the most recent data available, CAPE PAC has paid Loyd more than $2,300 in "director fees."
It has also paid $15,000 to the D.C. area public-relations firm of Kirsten Fedewa. Fedewa returned a message left for CAPE PAC and said that she would pass questions on to Loyd or Nicholas Spears, who has been paid about $800 as a CAPE PAC director. Instead, CAPE PAC emailed Loyd's written statement. Fedewa declined to answer questions in a follow-up call, saying she is a consultant, not a spokeswoman for the group.
GOP activist Sarah Bowman of Iowa has also received more than $4,100 for "public-relations" services.
CAPE PAC has a strong Web presence, with nearly 100,000 followers on Twitter and 50,000 on Facebook. In a press release touting its work for Rep. Jeff Flake of Arizona, who is running for Senate, CAPE PAC claimed to have promoted a #VoteFlake hashtag on Twitter, posted a YouTube ad, and placed a "polling-place locator" on its website. The YouTube video had only 170 views as of the end of August; no one other than CAPE PAC's Twitter account appears to have used the #VoteFlake tag.
"We are troubled with its deceptive website and collection of donations," Flake spokesman Andrew Wilder said.
To aid Allen West, CAPE PAC stated in a July press release that it "secured airtime" that month. But a veteran media buyer and West's campaign could find no record of such an ad airing on TV.
For donors such as Jesse Knight of Salt Lake City, who contributed $250 to CAPE PAC, the biggest question is what is happening with his money.
"I thought I was donating it to Romney," Knight said. "That's what they portrayed." Knight accidentally clicked "donate" multiple times. CAPE PAC officials were accommodating in returning his duplicative donations, he said.
But it wasn't until a reporter contacted him that he learned he hadn't contributed to Romney at all. "I want 100 percent going to the guy I'm voting for," Knight said.
Nju Jork Tajmz još malo o Haj Frikvensi Trejdingu:
Searching for a Speed Limit in High-Frequency Trading (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/business/high-frequency-trading-of-stocks-is-two-critics-target.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all)
QuoteTICKER tape: it's an enduring image of Wall Street. The paper is gone but the digital tape runs on, across computer and television screens. Those stock quotations scurrying by on CNBC are, for many, the pulse of American capitalism.
But Sal L. Arnuk doesn't really believe in the tape anymore — at least not in the one most of us see. That tape, he says, doesn't tell the whole truth.
That might come as a surprise, given that Mr. Arnuk is a professional stockbroker. But suddenly, and improbably, he has emerged as a leading critic of the very market in which he works. He and his business partner, Joseph C. Saluzzi, have become the voice of those plucky souls who try to swim with Wall Street's sharks without getting devoured.
From workaday suburban offices here, across from a Gymboree, these two men are taking on one of the most powerful forces in finance today: high-frequency trading (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/h/high_frequency_algorithmic_trading/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier). H.F.T., as it's known, is the biggest thing to hit Wall Street in years. On any given day, this lightning-quick, computer-driven form of trading accounts for upward of half of all of the business transacted on the nation's stock markets.
It's a staggering development — and one that Mr. Arnuk, 46, and Mr. Saluzzi, 45, say has contributed to the hair-raising flash crashes and computer hiccups that seem to roil the markets with alarming frequency. Many ordinary Americans have grown wary of the stock market, which they see as the playground of Google-esque algorithms, powerful banks and secretive, fast-money trading firms.
To which Mr. Arnuk and Mr. Saluzzi say: enough. At their Lilliputian brokerage firm, they are tilting at the giants of high-frequency trading and warning — loudly — of the dangers they pose. Mr. Saluzzi was the only vocal critic of H.F.T. appointed to a 24-member federal panel that is studying the topic. Posts from the blog that the two men write have been packaged into a book, "Broken Markets: How High Frequency Trading and Predatory Practices on Wall Street are Destroying Investor Confidence and Your Portfolio," (FT Press, 2012) which was published (http://www.ftpress.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0132875241) in June. They are even getting fan mail.
But they are also making enemies.
Proponents of high-frequency trading call them embittered relics — quixotic, old-school stockbrokers without the skills to compete in sophisticated, modern markets. And, in a sense, those critics are right: they are throwbacks. Both men say they wish Wall Street could go back to a calmer, simpler time, all the way back to, say, 2004 — before the old exchange system splintered and murky private markets sprang up and computers could send the Dow into 1,000-point spasms. (The bottle of Tums Ultra 1000 and the back-pain medication on Mr. Arnuk's desk here are a testament to their frustrations.)
They have proposed solutions that might seem simple to the uninitiated but look radical to H.F.T. insiders. For instance, the two want to require H.F.T. firms to honor the prices they offer for a stock for at least 50 milliseconds — less than a wink of an eye, but eons in high-frequency time.
On the Friday before Labor Day (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/l/labor_day/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) weekend, Mr. Arnuk was sitting in the office of Themis Trading, the brokerage firm (http://www.themistrading.com/) he founded with Mr. Saluzzi a decade ago. It is little more than a fluorescent-lit single room; the most notable decoration is a poster signed in gold ink by the cast of "The Sopranos." Above Mr. Arnuk, the tape scrolled by on the Bloomberg Television channel. But other numbers danced on four computer screens on his desk. Mr. Arnuk kept moving his cursor across those screens, punching in figures, trying to find the best price for a customer who wanted to buy a particular stock.
His eyes scanned the stock's going price on 13 stock exchanges across the nation. The investing public is now using so many exchanges because new regulation and technology have rewritten the old rules and let in new players. It's not just the Big Board or the Nasdaq anymore. It's also the likes of BATS (http://batstrading.com/) and Direct Edge (https://www.directedge.com/).
Mr. Arnuk then eyed the stock's price on dozens of other trading platforms — private ones most people can't see. Known as the dark pools, they help hedge funds and other big-money players trade in relative secrecy.
Everywhere, different prices kept flickering on the screens. Computers at high-speed trading firms, Mr. Arnuk said, were issuing buy and sell orders and then canceling them almost as fast, testing the market. It can be hell on human brokers. On the tape, the stock's price was unchanged, but beneath the tape, things were changing all the time.
"They will flicker to see who is not flickering," Mr. Arnuk said of H.F.T. computers. "The guy who is not flickering is the idiot — the real investor."
From his desk a few feet away, Mr. Saluzzi chimed in: "That's how the game is played now."
ON the afternoon of May 6, 2010, shortly before 3 o'clock, the stock market plummeted. In just 15 minutes, the Dow tumbled 600 points — bringing its loss for the day to nearly 1,000. Then, just as fast, and just as inexplicably, it sprang back nearly 600 points, like a bungee jumper.
It was one of the most harrowing moments in Wall Street history. And for many people outside financial circles, it was the first clue as to just how much new technology was changing the nation's financial markets. The flash crash, a federal report (http://www.sec.gov/news/studies/2010/marketevents-report.pdf) later concluded, "portrayed a market so fragmented and fragile that a single large trade could send stocks into a sudden spiral." It turned out that a big mutual fund (http://topics.nytimes.com/your-money/investments/mutual-funds-and-etfs/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) firm had sold an unusually large number of futures contracts, setting off a feedback loop among computers at H.F.T. firms that sent the market into a free fall.
Despite computers' many benefits — faster, cheaper trades, and mind-boggling analytics — they have been causing problems on Wall Street for years. Technology has fostered so-called hot money — money that quickly shifts from one stock to another, or one market to another, always seeking higher returns. Computer-driven program trading was developed in the 1980s and was a contributing factor in the 1987 market crash, though it wasn't the main culprit, as many initially thought.
Since the 2010 flash crash, mini flash crashes have occurred with surprising regularity in a wide range of individual stocks. Last spring, a computer glitch scuttled the initial public offering of one of the nation's largest electronic exchanges, BATS, and computer problems at the Nasdaq stock market dogged the I.P.O. of Facebook.
And last month, Knight Capital, a brokerage firm (http://www.knight.com/) at the center of the nation's stock market for almost a decade, nearly collapsed after it ran up more than $400 million of losses in minutes, because of errant technology. It was just the latest high-profile case of Wall Street computers gone wild.
High-frequency traders didn't cause all of these problems. But these traders and their computers embody the escalating technological arms race raging across financial industry.
The stock market establishment says the recent mishaps distract from the enormous benefits that technology has brought. The new trading outlets have democratized the system and made it possible to trade any time, anywhere. Competition has forced exchanges and trading firms to reduce the commissions they charge. George U. Sauter, chief investment officer at the mutual fund giant Vanguard, has said the shift saved hundreds of millions of dollars for Vanguard investors.
James Angel, a professor at Georgetown University and a member of the board of Direct Edge, said Mr. Arnuk and Mr. Saluzzi were stoking irrational fears of a market that is providing good returns to investors. Mr. Angel compared them to people "who gripe that their cellphone is too complicated, ignoring the fact that 20 years ago they didn't even have a cellphone."
But Mr. Arnuk and Mr. Saluzzi say such assessments ignore the hidden costs of high-frequency trading, particularly the market instability it can create.
They say firms that dominate the market often stop trading during times of crisis, when they are needed the most. They also contend that ordinary investors are paying more for their stocks, not less, because computerized traders pick up information about stock orders and push up prices before orders can be filled. Traders of all sorts have split orders into smaller and smaller blocks, making it harder for everyone to complete some types of basic trades.
"They took one of the most simple processes in the world, matching up supply and demand, and made it such a complicated labyrinth," Mr. Arnuk said.
He and Mr. Saluzzi trace the roots of the market's current travails to a number of regulatory changes over the last two decades. But they give the starring role to a set of rules adopted in 2007 by the Securities and Exchange Commission. The rules are known as the Regulation National Market System, or Reg N.M.S. (http://www.sec.gov/rules/final/34-51808.pdf)
Before those rules, computerized trading had been steadily growing, but the market was still dominated by the human traders on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange. Reg N.M.S. broke the Big Board's domination by requiring that orders be sent to the trading platform with the best price. This seemingly small change led to a proliferation of new platforms, like dark pools. It also put a premium on speed, giving an advantage to firms that could place orders first and take advantage of minuscule price differences among exchanges.
At Themis, Mr. Arnuk and Mr. Saluzzi soon noticed they were having trouble completing what previously were easy orders. When they tried to buy stock at the price listed on an exchange, the price would disappear almost as soon as they entered their order. Then it would reappear — at a penny or more higher.
The two began by voicing complaints in morning notes to clients. Soon they moved on to industry publications like Traders Magazine, (http://www.tradersmagazine.com/) then to the mainstream news media.
In July 2009, or 10 months before the flash crash, Mr. Saluzzi squared off on CNBC against Irene Aldridge, a prominent advocate of high-frequency trading (http://www.ablealpha.com/aa/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=156). Mr. Saluzzi declared that high-frequency traders could get an early peek at buy and sell orders, giving them an edge over everyone else. The H.F.T. crowd could simply jump in front of ordinary investors, he said.
"There is nothing illegal about what you are doing," Mr. Saluzzi told Ms. Aldridge. "But, you know, it is not ethical."
Ms. Aldridge was incensed.
"How dare you accuse us of being unethical — you're unethical," she shot back. "We are cutting your margins — of brokerages (http://topics.nytimes.com/your-money/investments/brokerage-and-bank-accounts/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) like yours — because you cannot compete, because you do not have the proper skills."
As the host, Sue Herera (http://www.cnbc.com/id/15838111/), tried to cut to a commercial, the two shouted backed and forth.
"Yeah, hope your computer doesn't blow up tomorrow, O.K.?" Mr. Saluzzi snarled at Ms. Aldridge. "Make sure the fuses are O.K."
The line proved prophetic.
SAL ARNUK and Joe Saluzzi are unlikely Wall Street gadflies. Mr. Arnuk grew up in modest surroundings in the Bay Ridge section of Brooklyn, Mr. Saluzzi in Sheepshead Bay. They met after college in back-office jobs at Morgan Stanley and bonded over weekend softball games and commutes. Both soon realized they didn't have the connections to move up at a white-shoe Wall Street firm.
Talking to them now, it's clear that both have a certain anti-establishment bent, at least as far as Wall Street is concerned. Mr. Arnuk says he filled the wall of his dorm room at what is now Binghamton University with rejection letters from financial firms. After business school, their scrappy attitudes led them to computerized trading, the upstart part of the industry in the 1990s. They spent nearly a decade at Instinet, one of the original off exchange trading platforms.
When they struck out on their own and founded Themis in 2002, they intended to use their technological expertise to help clients navigate the markets. But soon enough, they say, the computers took over, with formulas pushing share prices up and down regardless of anything happening at the underlying company.
Mr. Saluzzi acknowledges that computerized trading has hurt firms like Themis, which executes trades on behalf of clients. Many former Themis clients now trade via algorithms, or algos, with no human involvement. But both men say human brokers can often navigate complex markets better than computers. Last year, Themis's revenue was up 10 percent, despite an overall decline in trading volume, they say. This year, revenue is holding steady.
One Themis client, Derek Laub, director of trading at Jetstream Capital, a small investment firm just outside Nashville, says he turns to Themis because Mr. Arnuk and Mr. Saluzzi provide a human touch, and help him avoid falling prey to more sophisticated H.F.T. firms. Trading through Themis costs Mr. Laub a bit more — about 1 cent a share, total — but that's still cheaper than the 3 cents or 4 cents charged by many big banks. More important, Mr. Laub says he likes Themis because it speaks for small investment firms that don't have the time or wherewithal to examine every problem in the market structure or to take on the big trading firms.
"You feel like there is at least someone out there who is going to give the other side of the argument," Mr. Laub said.
The views of Mr. Arnuk and Mr. Saluzzi are gaining more traction with industry insiders. The head of the New York Stock Exchange said this summer that the pursuit of speed had gone too far. In debates with Mr. Saluzzi, some H.F.T. executives have agreed that the fragmentation of the markets is now doing more harm than good for investors. And after the breakdown at Knight Capital, the S.E.C. called for a round table on market technology; it will be held on Oct. 2 (http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2012/2012-182.htm?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=SEC+Press+Releases).
BUT Mr. Arnuk and Mr. Saluzzi do not think that big change is on the way. For their part, they don't want to do away with computerized trading altogether — just the frantic developments of the last few years. "I don't want to go back to 1987, but 2004 wouldn't be so bad," Mr. Arnuk says.
Their message has won them a following among many ordinary Americans who, rightly or wrongly, have concluded that the Wall Street game is rigged. Before heading out for Labor Day weekend, Mr. Arnuk opened one more example of fan mail — a letter from an Idaho man that also went to Senator Michael D. Crapo, an Idaho Republican.
The man wrote that the financial markets had become "treacherous waters" and suggested that the senator read "Broken Markets," which, he wrote, "exposes our disgusting and corrupt market system today."
Mr. Arnuk smiled. "That's going up on the wall," he said. "I consider it a badge of honor."
Ma šta 50 milisekundi, ja bih to sinhronizovao na jednu sekundu. Poenta trgovanja na berzi nije da se stvara vrednost ni iz čega, niti da neko zarađuje na veštački izazvanim razlikama. To jest, trenutni učesnici berze smatraju da je upravo to poenta, ali ja bih sve njih uza zid što tako smatraju.
Evo, pustiše im QE3.
SAN ANTONIO (AP) — The Air Force chose a woman Saturday to lead its basic training unit at a Texas base where dozens of female recruits have alleged they were sexually assaulted or harassed by male instructors within the past year.
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Col. Deborah Liddick is taking command of the 737th Training Group, bringing a distinctly new face of authority to Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio. Six male instructors have been charged with crimes ranging from rape to adultery, and there are others still under investigation.
The Air Force announced Liddick's appointment in a statement that didn't mention the sex scandal or highlight choosing a woman to lead a unit where the number of women identified by military investigators as potential victims is approaching 40.
Bogami, i u Americi nastavno osoblje u štrajku. Makar u Čikagu. Gradonačelnik insistira da je štrajk nelegalan.
Chicago teachers extend strike, mayor seeks court order (http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-mayor-seek-injunction-end-teachers-strike-005611892--finance.html)
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CHICAGO (Reuters) - The confrontation between Chicago teachers and Mayor Rahm Emanuel escalated on Sunday when their union extended a strike and the mayor said he would go to court to block the walkout, risking more friction within President Barack Obama's political coalition as the November 6 election nears.
There will be no classes in Chicago public schools on Monday and Tuesday, affecting 350,000 kindergarten, elementary and high school students.
The showdown left in doubt a deal on wages, benefits and education reforms for 29,000 unionized teachers that negotiators thought they had struck on Friday to end the biggest labor dispute in the United States in a year.
It also could widen a rift within the Democratic Party between education reformers such as Obama's former top White House aide Emanuel, and organized labor, which the Democrats need to get out the vote in the election.
Chicago union President Karen Lewis said some 800 union delegates met on Sunday and decided to consult with rank-and-file members before voting whether to end the walkout.
"There's no trust (of the school district and mayor)," Lewis said. "So you have a population of people who are frightened of never being able to work for no fault of their own."
Union delegates will reconvene on Tuesday to discuss the feedback from rank-and-file members, Lewis said. Parents should plan for their children to be out of school until at least Wednesday, she said.
No formal vote was taken during the meeting, but delegates were asked to stand up so that the leadership could get a sense of those for and against ending the strike, delegates said.
"A clear majority wanted to stay out. That's why we are staying out," Lewis told a news conference after a three-hour meeting of the delegates.
MAYOR CALLS STRIKE ILLEGAL
Emanuel called the strike "illegal" and said he would go to court to seek an injunction to block the labor action.
"I will not stand by while the children of Chicago are played as pawns in an internal dispute within a union," Emanuel said, adding that the union walked out over issues that are not subject to a strike under Illinois state law.
Emanuel's gambit takes the dispute into uncharted territory. No injunction request has been filed in an Illinois educational labor dispute since 1984, when the state gave Chicago teachers the right to strike.
Teachers revolted last week against sweeping education reforms sought by Emanuel, especially evaluating teachers based on the standardized test scores of their students. They also fear a wave of neighborhood school closings that could result in mass teacher layoffs. They want a guarantee that laid-off teachers will be recalled for other jobs in the district.
"They're still not happy with the evaluations. They're not happy with the recall (provision)," Lewis said of delegates.
Before the meeting of delegates on Sunday, Lewis had called the agreement a "good contract." But after the decision to extend the strike, she backtracked, saying: "This is not a good deal. This is the deal we got."
Emanuel's chief negotiator, School Board President David Vitale, said the union should allow children to go back to school while the two sides complete the process.
"We are extremely disappointed that after 10 months of discussion reaching an honest and fair compromise that (the union) decided to continue their strike of choice and keep our children out of the classroom," Vitale said.
During the first week of the strike, opinion polls showed parents and Chicago voters backing the union, with some parents and students joining boisterous rallies. A key question is whether the public's support will waver as the strike drags on.
"I'm very fed up and I'm very upset," said Crystal Blakeley, a single parent of a daughter in second grade on the South Side of Chicago. Blakeley said she was paying for child care during the strike.
Candace Johnson, a barista at Starbucks, said she had been taking her 8-year-old son to the library on Chicago's North Side.
"I'm trying to be as patient as possible, but the longer it takes, I don't know what else I'm going to do with my child," she said after the strike was extended.
Former Chicago City Council member Dick Simpson said Emanuel may have made a mistake by going to court to block the strike.
"If I were advising the mayor, I would have advised him to be patient for a couple of days," said Simpson, a political science professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. By waiting, Emanuel could have put the onus on the teachers if they rejected the contract later this week, Simpson said.
Both sides appeared to win some concessions, according to details of the tentative agreement released by the parties.
Emanuel compromised on the design of the first update of the evaluation system for Chicago teachers in 40 years. He agreed to phase in the new plan over several years and reduced the weighting of standardized test results in reviewing teachers.
Teachers won some job-security protections and prevented the introduction of merit pay in their contract.
NATIONAL DEBATE
The Chicago strike has shone a bright light on a fierce national debate over how to reform failing inner-city schools. The union believes that more money and resources should be given to neighborhood public schools to help them improve.
Emanuel and a legion of financiers and philanthropists believe that failing schools should be closed and reopened with new staff to give the students the best chance of improving.
The agreement calls for a 3 percent pay raise for teachers this year and 2 percent in each of the next two years. If the agreement is extended for an optional fourth year, teachers get a 3 percent increase. The deal would result in an average 17.6 percent increase over four years, the district said. Chicago union teachers make an average of about $76,000 annually.
The deal could exacerbate the Chicago Public Schools financial crisis. Emanuel said the contract will cost $295 million over four years, or $74 million per year.
Debt rating agencies had previously warned that the new agreement with teachers could bust the school district budget and lead to a downgrade of its credit rating.
(Additional reporting by Peter Bohan; Writing by Greg McCune; Editing by Eric Beech and Eric Walsh)
Bre, Meho, linkovi ti sve duži, sve manje čitljivi. Dosadni. Čak te i ispravljaju. Zabrinut sam. :(
Ti čitaš te linkove :-?
Ma, dobro, ja prekopiram ceo tekst za svaki slučaj, ako je originalni izvor u nekom momentu nedostupan. Ne očekujem da neko čita sve ovo ovako sitno.
A šta me ispravljaju???
Ti ne čitaš tuđe postove???
Samo kad me podmite nekom golotinjom.
Šalim se, ne znam na šta konkretno misliš, ali jasno je da ja nisam bezgrešan!!!!!
ima i nas koji te volimo iako si skriboman i skribonecitac! sta god to drugo bilo, al dobro zvuci!!!!
Ljubav je Bog.
https://rt.com/usa/news/us-jets-attack-taliban-343/
US lost eight jets in worst air loss in one day since Vietnam war
After Taliban gunmen destroyed eight Harrier jets at a US camp in Helmand Province, the US military has suffered its worst air loss in one day since the Vietnam War.
The Taliban attacked Camp Bastion, the main strategic base in southwestern Afghanistan, on Sept. 14, causing $200 million in damage in the single most destructive strike on a Western base during the war, according to military officials.
Two Marines were killed, nine coalition personnel were wounded and six jets costing between $23 million and $30 million were completely destroyed.
The approximately 15 insurgents, dressed in US Army uniforms, had penetrated the base Friday night and instantly began shooting and setting fire to parked Navy-AV-8B Harrier jets when they were inside. Three refueling stations were severely damaged during the attack.
"It was a running gun battle for a while, two and a half hours, nonetheless they were able to get to the aircraft before we could intercept them," a military official told the New York Times. Using machine guns, rocket propelled grenades and possibly mortars, most of the aircrafts were demolished.
After a drawn-out nighttime battle that made it hard to see the enemy, all but one of the Taliban fighters were killed. The remaining insurgent is now in military custody.
Camp Bastion is one of the largest and best-defended posts in Afghanistan, making it troubling that the attackers were able to inflict so much damage.
"We're saying it's a very sophisticated attack," a military official told the Times. "We've lost aircraft in battle, but nothing like this."
The Taliban made a statement blaming the attack on the anti-Muslim video that sparked outrage in the Arab world. But Wahid Mujda, an Afghan analyst who tracks the Taliban, told the Times that an attack as sophisticated as this one took a lot of planning and training, thereby being unrelated to the release of the video.
"I do not think that the Camp Bastion attack had anything to do with the anti-Prophet movie," he said. "Given the sophistication of the attack one can say with a lot of confidence that the Taliban had been training, rehearsing and preparing for weeks and even months. Everything was not planned and decided overnight."
The detrimental attack comes after nearly 10,000 American Marines have left Helmand Province over the past several months, now that the offensive is over. But more coalition service members have died this year in Afghanistan. After Friday's attack, four more service members were killed on Sunday in Zabul Province, bringing the total number of deaths this year to 51. Last year, 35 were killed as a result of this type of violence.
And as US involvement in Afghanistan trickles down, the Taliban has left its mark on the highest security base with the most destructive attack in the region in 11 years.
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/09/14/maryland-residents-are-sick-of-being-spied-on-and-tearing-down-police-cameras/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pakalert+%28Pak+Alert+Press%29 (http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/09/14/maryland-residents-are-sick-of-being-spied-on-and-tearing-down-police-cameras/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pakalert+%28Pak+Alert+Press%29)
Maryland Residents Are Sick Of Being Spied On And Tearing Down Police Cameras
Police in Palmer Park, Md., plan to deploy cameras to surveil the other cameras in their district.
Ari Ash of WTOP talked to police in the area, who said that local people had started targeting the speed cameras police put up in intersections, as well as surveillance cameras. The police said that since April, six people have been involved camera damaging activities.
One man literally pulled out a pistol and used the camera for target practice. Police found another speed camera flipped over—leading police to believe a gang of people committed the crime, considering the weight of the camera. Then there was the camera set up on a stand, near FedEx Field. A man walked up to it, cut off one of the legs, and walked away.
:lol: :lol: Narodu je dosta velikog brata.
Naravno, u širem opsegu stvari, više kamera i drugih sprava za praćenje našeg kretanja mi sami kupujemo i dobrovoljno nosimo sa sobom nego što ih vlada postavlja unaokolo :lol:
To sa praćenjem i nadzorom u priličnoj meri važi i kod nas. Samo toga još nismo svesni.
Ma svestan je svako ko ima ikakvu kreditnu karticu za početak.
Ja sam mislio na Internet. Dovoljno je da te neko označi kao sumnjivog i da bi valjalo malo te nadzirati. 8)
Pa i tu većina nas obavlja posao sama: fejsbuci, tviteri, guglovi itd.
Iiii pravda pobedjuje jos jednom:
City may sue developer who spent $20,000 to remove 40 tons of trash from vacant lot
Yahoo! – A business developer in the Philadelphia neighborhood of Point Breeze is facing legal action after voluntarily cleaning up more than 40 tons of trash from a vacant lot neighboring his local business. As the old adage goes, no good deed goes unpunished. Ori Feibush says he visited the local offices of the Philadelphia Redevelopment Authority four times, sent in seven written requests and made 24 phone calls to the agency asking them to take care of a major eyesore: an empty lot next to his coffee shop was home to more than 40 tons of debris. Not only did the agency fail to act but it also denied Feibush's offer to clean up the mess himself. But the Daily News reports that Feibush went ahead with his plans anyway, reportedly spending more than $20,000 of his own money not only to remove the trash but also to level the soil; add cherry trees, fencing and park benches; and repave the sidewalk. However, the city agency was less excited, demanding that Feibush return the vacant lot to its previous condition and saying it is considering legal action against him. "Like any property owner, [the authority] does not permit unauthorized access to or alteration of its property," Paul D. Chrystie, director of communications at the Office of Housing and Community Development told the paper. "This is both on principle (no property owner knowingly allows trespassing) and to limit taxpayer liability."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/city-may-sue-developer-spent-20k-remove-40-200922350.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/city-may-sue-developer-spent-20k-remove-40-200922350.html)
To znači da svaki put kad uklonim prazne omote i boce iz parka u susedstvu rizikujem da me gradski organi ganjaju zbog uzurpiranja njihovog prava da to urade. :mrgreen:
Kaci na "Serbia today" kad te komunalna obradi. xfrog
Američko društvo je kanibalističko. Tamo svako može svakoga da tuži zbog bilo čega i da ga odere do gole kože.
Pa skoro su onog mladića najurili s posla zato što je spasio dečka izvan plaže u kojoj je bio nadležan, a hitna pomoć je njemu ispostavila račun...
Ako se neko davi, obavezan si da pozoveš nadležnu službu, a počinićeš ozbiljan prekršaj ako sam pokušaš da spasavaš jer si nestručan.
Je li neko čito skoro Puž golać na urvini od Strugackih? :evil:
http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/QE3%20Confirms%20the%20Economic%20Implosion%2009-13-2012.pdf (http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/QE3%20Confirms%20the%20Economic%20Implosion%2009-13-2012.pdf)
QE3 Confirms the Economic Implosion
Mnogo su ga naduvali.
Devojčica objasnila... bukvalno
fantastic 12 yr old Victoria Grant explains how banks commit fraud.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ae7h8FioX0#ws)
Navodno, iza aktuelnih hakerskih napada na američke banke stoji - Iran.
Officials see Iran, not outrage over film, behind cyber attacks on US banks (http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/20/13990206-officials-see-iran-not-outrage-over-film-behind-cyber-attacks-on-us-banks)
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National security officials told NBC News that the continuing cyber attacks this week that slowed the websites of JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America are being carried out by the government of Iran. One of those sources said the claim by hackers that the attacks were prompted by the online video mocking the Prophet Muhammad is just a cover story.
A group of purported hackers in the Middle East has claimed credit for problems at the websites of both banks, citing the online video mocking the founder of Islam. One security source called that statement "a cover" for the Iranian government's operations.Advertise (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31066137/media-kit/) | AdChoices (http://g.msn.com/AIPRIV/en-us) The attack is described by one source, a former U.S. official familiar with the attacks, as being "significant and ongoing" and looking to cause "functional and significant damage." Also, one source suggested the attacks were in response to U.S. sanctions on Iranian banks.
The consumer banking website of Bank of America was unavailable to some customers on Tuesday, and JPMorgan Chase on Wednesday had the same problems, which multiple sources linked to a denial-of-service attack, in which a website is bogged down by a large number of requests. A Chase spokesman said Wednesday that the consumer site was intermittently unavailable to some customers, but did not acknowledge then that there was an attack. On Thursday, Chase said slowness continued but was resolved by late afternoon Eastern Time. Bank of America acknowledged on Tuesday that its site had experienced slowness, but would not say what caused it.
Senior U.S. officials acknowledge that Iranian attacks have been the subject of intense interest by U.S. intelligence for several weeks. Last week, the Joint Chiefs of Staff's Intelligence Directorate, known as J-2, confirmed continuing Iranian cyber attacks against U.S. financial institutions in a report described as "highly classified." The report was posted on internal classified U.S. government sites last Friday, September 14.
Because of the level of classification, the officials refused to provide or confirm any specifics on these attacks. However, one official noted that Iran's uranium enrichment program had been the target of the STUXNET worm in 2010. The worm was reportedly developed by the U.S. and Israel. "The Iranians are very familiar with the environment," quipped the official.
A conservative website, FreeBeacon.com (http://freebeacon.com/irans-cyber-attacks-step-up/), initially reported on the Pentagon analysis, quoting it as saying, "Iran's cyber aggression should be viewed as a component, alongside efforts like support for terrorism, to the larger covert war Tehran is waging against the west." U.S officials did not deny the FreeBeacon report when queried by NBC News.
A financial services industry group, the Financial Services Information Sharing and Analysis Center, warned U.S. banks, brokerages and insurers late Wednesday to be on heightened alert for cyber attacks. FS-ISAC also raised its raised the cyber threat level to "high" from "elevated" in an advisory to members, citing "recent credible intelligence regarding the potential" for cyber attacks as its reason for the move.
The former head of cyber-security for the White House testified Thursday that "we were waiting for something like this from Iran." Frank Cilluffo, who served as Special Assistant to the President for Homeland Security under President George W. Bush, is currently an associate vice president at George Washington University and heads the Homeland Security Policy Institute. Cilluffo testified in a previously scheduled appearance before the U.S. House of Representatives' Committee on Homeland Security, saying "the government of Iran and its terrorist proxies are serious concerns in the cyber context. What Iran may lack in capability, it makes up for in intent. They do not need highly sophisticated capabilities—just intent and cash—as there exists an arms bazaar of cyber weapons, allowing Iran to buy or rent the tools they need or seek."
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Advertise (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31066137/media-kit/) | AdChoices (http://g.msn.com/AIPRIV/en-us) The statement by the purported Muslim hackers, posted on Tuesday on Pastebin, an online bulletin board, reads in full: "In the name of Allah the companionate the merciful. My soul is devoted to you Dear Prophet of Allah. Dear Muslim youths, Muslims Nations and are noblemen. When Arab nations rose against their corrupt regimes (those who support Zionist regime) at the other hand when, Crucify infidels are terrified and they are no more supporting human rights. United States of America with the help of Zionist Regime made a Sacrilegious movie insulting all the religions not only Islam. All the Muslims worldwide must unify and Stand against the action, Muslims must do whatever is necessary to stop spreading this movie. We will attack them for this insult with all we have. All the Muslim youths who are active in the Cyber world will attack to American and Zionist Web bases as much as needed such that they say that they are sorry about that insult. We, Cyber fighters of Izz ad-din Al qassam will attack the Bank of America and New York Stock Exchange for the first step. These Targets are properties of American-Zionist Capitalists. This attack will be started today at 2 pm. GMT. This attack will continue till the Erasing of that nasty movie. Beware this attack can vary in type. Down with modern infidels. Allah is the Greatest. Allah is the Greatest."
There was no report of an attack on the New York Stock Exchange.
Also on Thursday, the U.S. disclosed that it has bought $70,000 worth of air time on seven Pakistani television channels to air an ad which shows President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton denouncing the anti-Islamic video. In the ad, President Obama says, "Since our founding the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate religious beliefs of others." Clinton appears after Obama and says, "Let me state very clearly that the United States has absolutely nothing to do with this video. We absolutely reject its contents. America's commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation."
Pakistan was added Wednesday (http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/20/13987443-film-protests-pakistan-added-to-growing-no-go-list-for-americans) to the State Department's list of countries to which Americans should avoid travel, joining Lebanon and Tunisia, following protests across the Middle East and North Africa and the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, in which American Ambassador Chris Stevens was killed.
Robert Windrem is a senior investigative correspondent for NBC News. Jim Miklaszewski is the chief Pentagon correspondent for NBC News. Patti Domm, executive news editor at CNBC and CNBC.com, contributed to this report.
Ma, da. Iran je kriv za atomsku bombu, svetski terorizam, kišne gliste i ko zna za šta još. Pitanje je: Ima li ko normalan ko u to veruje?
valjda nema.
al da ce uskoro da krenu na njega, hoce. a rusi nema sanse da im daju nuclear weapon. tako da, bicemo svedoci jos jednog uvodjenja demokratije. sto bi samo u saudi arabiji bilo dobro & demokratski.
Kad se reka izlije, onda je svuda plitka.
Ирану нуклеарно оружје може да да Северна Кореја. Трансфер технологија што се ракета тиче постоји већ дуго и на Armscontrolwonku се спекулисало да тестирање ракета већ неко време обавља Иран, док ДНРК ради статичке тестове, без стварног лансирања. Оно што је нејасно јесте да ли је ДНРК успела да модификује SS-N-6 технологију, то јест да ли су "Мусудан" ракете заиста употребљиве.
Друга занимљива ствар јесте то што је била најављивана трећа атомска проба у ДНРК, а то се није догодило. У целом том замешетељству битна је улога Кине која не само да има ДНРК као штит према бедним поданицима Имерије Зла, него се и много ослања на иранску нафту. Кина је најочигледније прекршила ембарго на извоз технике кад је Корејцима извезла мобилне носаче ракета, а ови су их пре неколико месеци изложили на војној паради. Запад је, наравно, хистерисао. Узалуд, наравно. Продаја је, тврде, ишла преко неке белоруске фирме. Тако треба. :)
Ma, to s korejskim raketama je običan cirkus. Zna se ko ima upotrebljive rakete i bombe. Oni to dele šakom i kapom, izgleda.
Zar neko zaista veruje da su Rusi ukrali planove za hidrogensku bombu?
Ne znam da li je lažnjak, Romni se pita zbog čega ne mogu da se otvaraju prozori na avionu.
http://www.inquisitr.com/341857/mitt-romney-why-cant-you-roll-down-airplane-windows/ (http://www.inquisitr.com/341857/mitt-romney-why-cant-you-roll-down-airplane-windows/)
Evo, samo za Mehmeta. Jeste da je iz prosle godine al' je uvek relevantno.
QuoteFear, American Style: What the Anarchist and Libertarian Don't Understand about the US (http://coreyrobin.com/2011/10/25/fear-american-style-what-the-anarchist-and-libertarian-dont-understand-about-the-us/)
Two Fridays ago, I attended an excellent panel discussion on Occupy Wall Street (http://jacobinmag.com/blog/?p=1937) sponsored by Jacobin magazine (http://jacobinmag.com/). It featured Doug Henwood (http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/) and Jodi Dean (http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/)—representing a more state-centered, socialist-style left—and Malcolm Harris (http://nplusonemag.com/authors/harris-malcolm) and Natasha Lennard (http://twitter.com/#%21/natashalennard), representing a more anarchist-inflected left.
Lennard is a freelance writer who's been covering the OWS story for the New York Times. After a video of the panel was brought to the Times's attention, the paper reviewed it as well as Lennard's reporting and decided to take her off the OWS beat. Despite the fact, according to a spokeswoman for the Times (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66764.html), that "we have reviewed the past stories to which she contributed and have not found any reasons for concern over that reporting."
Even more troubling, Lennard may not be hired by the Times again at all. Says the spokeswoman: "This freelancer, Natasha Lennard, has not been involved in our coverage of Occupy Wall Street in recent days, and we have no plans to use her for future coverage."
This is hardly the first time that the mainstream media has fired reporters for their political activities, even when there's no hint of evidence that those activities have led to biased or skewed coverage. Even so, it's worrisome, and ought to be protested and resisted.
Such political motivated firings fit into a much broader pattern in American history that— in my first book Fear: The History of a Political Idea (http://www.amazon.com/Fear-History-Political-Corey-Robin/dp/0195189124/ref=tmm_pap_title_0)—I call "Fear, American Style." While people on the left and the right often focus on state repression—coercion and intimidation that comes from and is wielded by the government (politically driven prosecution and punishment, police violence, and the like)—the fact is that a great deal of political repression happens in civil society, outside the state. More specifically, in the workplace.
Think about McCarthyism. We all remember the McCarthy hearings in the Senate, the Rosenbergs, HUAC, and so on. All of these incidents involve the state. But guess how many people ever went to prison for their political beliefs during the McCarthy era? Less than 200 people. In the grand scheme of things, not a lot. Guess how many workers were investigated or subjected to surveillance for their beliefs? One to two out of every five. And while we don't have exact statistics on how many of those workers were fired, it was somewhere between 10 and 15 thousand.
There's a reason so much of American repression is executed not by the state but by the private sector: the government is subject to constitutional and legal restraints, however imperfect and patchy they may be. But an employer often is not. The Bill of Rights, as any union organizer will tell you, does not apply to the workplace. The federal government can't convict and imprison you simply and transparently for your political speech; if it does, it has to paint that speech as something other than speech (incitement, say) or as somehow involved in or contributing to a crime (material support for terrorism, say). A newspaper—like any private employer in a non-union workplace—can fire you, simply and transparently, for your political speech, without any due process.
On this blog, I've talked a lot about what I call in The Reactionary Mind (http://www.amazon.com/Reactionary-Mind-Conservatism-Edmund-Burke/dp/0199793743) "the private life of power": the domination and control we experience in our personal lives at the hands of employers, spouses, and so on. But we should always recall that that private life of power is often wielded for overtly political purposes: not simply for the benefit of an employer but also for the sake of maintaining larger political orthodoxies and suppressing political heresies. That was true during McCarthyism, in the 1960s, and today as well.
It was also true in the 19th century. Tocqueville noticed it while he was traveling here in the 1830s. Stopping off in Baltimore, he had a chat with a physician there (http://books.google.com/books?id=LJbwV4WznGkC&pg=RA1-PA500&lpg=RA1-PA500&dq=%22numerous+doubts+on+the+subject+of+dogma%22&source=bl&ots=c54fmfPTlC&sig=rdeYvGEp-J_G1viE5j4EdDp4cuo&hl=en&ei=lsumTozlFeW50QHt8s33DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22numerous%20doubts%20on%20the%20subject%20of%20dogma%22&f=false). Tocqueville asked him why so many Americans pretended they were religious when they obviously had "numerous doubts on the subject of dogma." The doctor replied that the clergy had a lot of power in America, as in Europe. But where the European clergy often acted through or with the help of the state, their American counterparts worked through the making and breaking of private careers.
If a minister, known for his piety, should declare that in his opinion a certain man was an unbeliever, the man's career would almost certainly be broken. Another example: A doctor is skilful, but has no faith in the Christian religion. However, thanks to his abilities, he obtains a fine practice. No sooner is he introduced into the house than a zealous Christian, a minister or someone else, comes to see the father of the house and says: look out for this man. He will perhaps cure your children, but he will seduce your daughters, or your wife, he is an unbeliever. There, on the other hand, is Mr. So-and-So. As good a doctor as this man, he is at the same time religious. Believe me, trust the health of your family to him. Such counsel is almost always followed.
After the Civil War, black Americans in the South became active political agents, mobilizing and agitating for education, political power, economic opportunity, and more. From the very beginning, they were attacked by white supremacists and unreconstructed former slaveholders. Often with the most terrible means of violence. But as W.E.B. DuBois pointed out in his magisterial Black Reconstruction (http://books.google.com/books?id=nxZ3AAAAMAAJ&q=%22The+decisive+influence+was+the+systematic+and+overwhelming+economic+pressure.%22+Black+Reconstruction&dq=%22The+decisive+influence+was+the+systematic+and+overwhelming+economic+pressure.%22+Black+Reconstruction&hl=en&ei=PsumToK2Osfd0QHo1Ky4Dg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAw), one of the most effective means of suppressing black citizens was through the workplace.
The decisive influence was the systematic and overwhelming economic pressure. Negroes who wanted work must not dabble in politics. Negroes who wanted to increase their income must not agitate the Negro problem. Positions of influence were only open to those Negroes who were certified as being 'safe and sane,' and their careers were closely scrutinized and passed upon. From 1880 onward, in order to earn a living, the American Negro was compelled to give up his political power.
In the last few months, I've had a fair number of arguments with both libertarians and anarchists about the state. What neither crew seems to get is what our most acute observers have long understood about the American scene: however much coercive power the state wields–and it's considerable—it's not, in the end, where and how many, perhaps even most, people in the United States have historically experienced the raw end of politically repressive power. Even force and violence: just think of black slaves and their descendants, confronting slaveholders, overseers, slave catchers, Klansmen, chain gangs, and more; or women confronting the violence of their husbands and supervisors; or workers confronting the Pinkertons and other private armies of capital.
Update (1:45 pm)
Just got off the phone with my wife, who reminded me of this amazing quote from Leslie Gelb (http://www.cfr.org/experts/afghanistan-iraq-terrorism/leslie-h-gelb/b3325). Gelb, who was once the epitome of what used to be called the Establishment (Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter for the New York Times; former State and Defense Department official; former president of the Council on Foreign Relations), supported the Iraq War. Later, after the disaster of that war became plain, he explained (http://mondoweiss.net/2009/10/leslie-gelb-admits-he-supported-iraq-war-for-the-sake-of-his-career.html)why he had initially lent his name to the cause:
My initial support for the war was symptomatic of unfortunate tendencies within the foreign policy community, namely the disposition and incentives to support wars to retain political and professional credibility. We 'experts' have a lot to fix about ourselves, even as we 'perfect' the media. We must redouble our commitment to independent thought, and embrace, rather than cast aside, opinions and facts that blow the common—often wrong—wisdom apart. Our democracy requires nothing less.
"To retain political and professional credibility." We have another word for that: careerism.
I've long wanted—and still plan—to write my magnum opus Careerism: Prolegomena to a Political Theory. But since retirement is still a ways away, let me just say this for now. The official reason Lennard is getting canned—or whatever it is; it's still unclear—from the Times is that the her political activities could lend her reporting an air of impropriety or bias. In the words of a Times spokeswoman (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66764_Page2.html#ixzz1boiQbAYL):
All our journalists, staff or freelance, are expected to adhere to our ethical rules and journalistic standards and to avoid doing anything that could call into question the impartiality of their work for the Times.
Yet what Gelb's quote suggests—a while back I wrote a piece for the London Review of Books (http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n20/corey-robin/was-he-had-he) that went into this in some greater depth, with more evidence from the Iraq War—is that the real bias one sees in mainstream reporting doesn't come from one's involvement in outside political activities. It comes from the desire to do one's job in accordance with the strictures of one's supervisors and peers, for fear that should you break ranks, you'll be fired or somehow blackballed from the profession. Most of the time, that internal policeman will keep you in line. But should he fall asleep on the job, the company's real police will there to toss you out on your ass. Again, Fear, American Style: the state, bound by the First Amendment, does nothing; editors do the job instead. Update (October 28, 6:30 pm) Nearly 10 years ago to the day, there was a Dilbert cartoon (http://search.dilbert.com/comic/Free%20Country) that pretty much said it all (h/t John Quiggin (http://johnquiggin.posterous.com/keeping-the-state-out-of-your-bedroom)).
Heh, pa jeste relevantno. Ti kad čitaš američke političke rasprave po Internetu vidiš takvu količinu straha od vlade da pomisliš da si zalutao u neku anarhističku basnu, ama su to većinom libertarijanci. I, da, dobar deo njih ne shvata da garancije koje im vlada daje u smislu političkih sloboda bivaju potpuno ignorisane i ismejane od strane biznisa. Anarhisti, barem oni sa kojima sam ja bio u nekakvim kontaktima tokom godina su najčešće imali jednako nepoverljiv odnos i prema korporacijama kao i prema vladi.
Dakle, pošto je suša, jelte, i u Ameriki devastirala prinose kukuruza, sad krave hrane čim god stignu, uključujući gumene bombone (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/23/us-usa-cattle-candy-idUSBRE88M05N20120923). E, sad, ti silni slatkiši koje im daju su ionako puni kukurkuznog sirupa, dakle, sumnjam da je ovo dugoročno rešenje :cry:
Pusti krave, za njih je zadužena Plut. Šta ćemo sa slaninicom?
Kad čovek uđe u određene godine, slaninu samo treba da gleda na televiziji, ne i da je jede. Ja je recimo ne jedem već osam godina :lol:
Lep nacin da se rat iz pustinjskih vukojebina prenese na podzemlje Menhetna:
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NEW YORK — New Yorkers are seeing something and saying something as a subway advertisement has some commuters stopping in their tracks. "I think just sensitivities around the subways, considering that was one of the targets considered by other terror groups in the past here in the city, it's probably a bad idea," said Christopher Himes, a straphanger. Just in time for the United Nations General Assembly, straphangers are seeing the pro-Israel ads in 10 subway stations. "It's going to spark controversy obviously when you deem one side savages and the other side civilized," said Colby Richardson. The ads were initially rejected, but the Council of Islamic-American Relations sued and won the right to display the ads — granted by a district court judge. "I am saying jihad, I am not saying all Muslims, and anyone who says that this ad is against all Muslims, in my opinion, is the true Islamaphobe," said Pamela Geller of Stop Islamization of America.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/19631912/2012/09/25/controversial-anti-muslim-ad (http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/19631912/2012/09/25/controversial-anti-muslim-ad)
Jedino kontroverzno u ovom primeru je tipična glupost na koju se računa. Wait, šta je tu uopšte kontroverzno?
Malo o inteligenciji :roll:
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/388057/20120926/harvard-now-insists-fluoride-lowers-iq-levels.htm#.UGLAdq6cQux (http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/388057/20120926/harvard-now-insists-fluoride-lowers-iq-levels.htm#.UGLAdq6cQux)
Harvard Now Insists that Fluoride Only Lowers IQ Levels Outside the United States
Intense industry pressure to continue mass medicating Americans with fluoride chemicals via public water supplies has apparently influenced Harvard University researchers to backtrack on a recent study they conducted that verified fluoride chemicals lower IQ levels in children. We are now being told the absurd lie that fluoride is only detrimental to people in other countries, and that Americans need not worry about ingesting and bathing in the toxic brew here in the states.
Kome trebaju robovi sa visokim IQ? Posle balkanizacije imamo fluorizaciju sveta.
Akademsko istraživanje (američko) o efikasnosti i etičnosti korišćenja dronova
http://livingunderdrones.org/ (http://livingunderdrones.org/)
Ovo je sažetak
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Executive Summary and Recommendations (http://livingunderdrones.org/executive-summary-recommendations/) In the United States, the dominant narrative about the use of drones in Pakistan is of a surgically precise and effective tool that makes the US safer by enabling "targeted killing" of terrorists, with minimal downsides or collateral impacts.[1] (http://livingunderdrones.org/#_ftn1)
This narrative is false.
Following nine months of intensive research—including two investigations in Pakistan, more than 130 interviews with victims, witnesses, and experts, and review of thousands of pages of documentation and media reporting—this report presents evidence of the damaging and counterproductive effects of current US drone strike policies. Based on extensive interviews with Pakistanis living in the regions directly affected, as well as humanitarian and medical workers, this report provides new and firsthand testimony about the negative impacts US policies are having on the civilians living under drones.
Real threats to US security and to Pakistani civilians exist in the Pakistani border areas now targeted by drones. It is crucial that the US be able to protect itself from terrorist threats, and that the great harm caused by terrorists to Pakistani civilians be addressed. However, in light of significant evidence of harmful impacts to Pakistani civilians and to US interests, current policies to address terrorism through targeted killings and drone strikes must be carefully re-evaluated.
It is essential that public debate about US policies take the negative effects of current policies into account.
First, while civilian casualties are rarely acknowledged by the US government, there is significant evidence that US drone strikes have injured and killed civilians. In public statements, the US states that there have been "no" or "single digit" civilian casualties."[2] (http://livingunderdrones.org/#_ftn2) It is difficult to obtain data on strike casualties because of US efforts to shield the drone program from democratic accountability, compounded by the obstacles to independent investigation of strikes in North Waziristan. The best currently available public aggregate data on drone strikes are provided by The Bureau of Investigative Journalism (TBIJ), an independent journalist organization. TBIJ reports that from June 2004 through mid-September 2012, available data indicate that drone strikes killed 2,562-3,325 people in Pakistan, of whom 474-881 were civilians, including 176 children.[3] (http://livingunderdrones.org/#_ftn3) TBIJ reports that these strikes also injured an additional 1,228-1,362 individuals. Where media accounts do report civilian casualties, rarely is any information provided about the victims or the communities they leave behind. This report includes the harrowing narratives of many survivors, witnesses, and family members who provided evidence of civilian injuries and deaths in drone strikes to our research team. It also presents detailed accounts of three separate strikes, for which there is evidence of civilian deaths and injuries, including a March 2011 strike on a meeting of tribal elders that killed some 40 individuals.
Second, US drone strike policies cause considerable and under-accounted-for harm to the daily lives of ordinary civilians, beyond death and physical injury. Drones hover twenty-four hours a day over communities in northwest Pakistan, striking homes, vehicles, and public spaces without warning. Their presence terrorizes men, women, and children, giving rise to anxiety and psychological trauma among civilian communities. Those living under drones have to face the constant worry that a deadly strike may be fired at any moment, and the knowledge that they are powerless to protect themselves. These fears have affected behavior. The US practice of striking one area multiple times, and evidence that it has killed rescuers, makes both community members and humanitarian workers afraid or unwilling to assist injured victims. Some community members shy away from gathering in groups, including important tribal dispute-resolution bodies, out of fear that they may attract the attention of drone operators. Some parents choose to keep their children home, and children injured or traumatized by strikes have dropped out of school. Waziris told our researchers that the strikes have undermined cultural and religious practices related to burial, and made family members afraid to attend funerals. In addition, families who lost loved ones or their homes in drone strikes now struggle to support themselves.
Third, publicly available evidence that the strikes have made the US safer overall is ambiguous at best. The strikes have certainly killed alleged combatants and disrupted armed actor networks. However, serious concerns about the efficacy and counter-productive nature of drone strikes have been raised. The number of "high-level" targets killed as a percentage of total casualties is extremely low—estimated at just 2%.[4] (http://livingunderdrones.org/#_ftn4) Furthermore, evidence suggests that US strikes have facilitated recruitment to violent non-state armed groups, and motivated further violent attacks. As the New York Times has reported, "drones have replaced Guantánamo as the recruiting tool of choice for militants."[5] (http://livingunderdrones.org/#_ftn5) Drone strikes have also soured many Pakistanis on cooperation with the US and undermined US-Pakistani rel­ations. One major study shows that 74% of Pakistanis now consider the US an enemy.[6] (http://livingunderdrones.org/#_ftn6)
Fourth, current US targeted killings and drone strike practices undermine respect for the rule of law and international legal protections and may set dangerous precedents. This report casts doubt on the legality of strikes on individuals or groups not linked to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and who do not pose imminent threats to the US. The US government's failure to ensure basic transparency and accountability in its targeted killing policies, to provide necessary details about its targeted killing program, or adequately to set out the legal factors involved in decisions to strike hinders necessary democratic debate about a key aspect of US foreign and national security policy. US practices may also facilitate recourse to lethal force around the globe by establishing dangerous precedents for other governments. As drone manufacturers and officials successfully reduce export control barriers, and as more countries develop lethal drone technologies, these risks increase.
In light of these concerns, this report recommends that the US conduct a fundamental re-evaluation of current targeted killing practices, taking into account all available evidence, the concerns of various stakeholders, and the short and long-term costs and benefits. A significant rethinking of current US targeted killing and drone strike policies is long overdue. US policy-makers, and the American public, cannot continue to ignore evidence of the civilian harm and counter-productive impacts of US targeted killings and drone strikes in Pakistan.
This report also supports and reiterates the calls consistently made by rights groups and others for legality, accountability, and transparency in US drone strike policies:
- The US should fulfill its international obligations with respect to accountability and transparency, and ensure proper democratic debate about key policies. The US should:
- Release the US Department of Justice memoranda outlining the legal basis for US targeted killing in Pakistan;
- Make public critical information concerning US drone strike policies, including as previously and repeatedly reques­ted by various groups and officials:[7] (http://livingunderdrones.org/#_ftn7) the tar­geting criteria for so-called "signature" strikes; the mechanisms in place to ensure that targeting complies with international law; which laws are being applied; the nature of investigations into civilian death and injury; and mechanisms in place to track, analyze and publicly recognize civilian casualties;[8] (http://livingunderdrones.org/#_ftn8)
- Ensure independent investigations into drone strike deaths, consistent with the call made by Ben Emmerson, UN Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms while countering terrorism in August 2012;[9] (http://livingunderdrones.org/#_ftn9)
- In conjunction with robust investigations and, where appropriate, prosecutions, establish compensation programs for civilians harmed by US strikes in Pakistan.
- The US should fulfill its international humanitarian and human rights law obligations with respect to the use of force, including by not using lethal force against individuals who are not members of armed groups with whom the US is in an armed conflict, or otherwise against individuals not posing an imminent threat to life. This includes not double-striking targets as first responders arrive.
- Journalists and media outlets should cease the common practice of referring simply to "militant" deaths, without further explanation. All reporting of government accounts of "militant" deaths should include acknowledgment that the US government counts all adult males killed by strikes as "militants," absent exonerating evidence. Media accounts relying on anonymous government sources should also highlight the fact of their single-source information and of the past record of false government reports.
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Drone attacks in Pakistan are counterproductive, says report (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/sep/25/drone-attacks-pakistan-counterproductive-report)
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US academics' report says drones kill large numbers of civilians and increase recruitment by militant groups
The CIA's programme of "targeted" drone killings in Pakistan (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/pakistan)'s tribal heartlands is politically counterproductive, kills large numbers of civilians and undermines respect for international law, according to a report by US academics (http://livingunderdrones.org/).
The study by Stanford and New York universities' law schools, based on interviews with victims, witnesses and experts, blames the US president, Barack Obama, for the escalation of "signature strikes" in which groups are selected merely through remote "pattern of life" analysis.
Families are afraid to attend weddings or funerals, it says, in case US ground operators guiding drones (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/drones) misinterpret them as gatherings of Taliban or al-Qaida militants.
"The dominant narrative about the use of drones in Pakistan is of a surgically precise and effective tool that makes the US safer by enabling 'targeted killings' of terrorists, with minimal downsides or collateral impacts. This narrative is false," the report, entitled Living Under Drones, states.
The authors admit it is difficult to obtain accurate data on casualties "because of US efforts to shield the drone programme from democratic accountability, compounded by obstacles to independent investigation of strikes in North Waziristan".
The "best available information", they say, is that between 2,562 and 3,325 people have been killed in Pakistan between June 2004 and mid-September this year – of whom between 474 and 881 were civilians, including 176 children. The figures have been assembled by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism (http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/aug/02/us-drone-strikes-data), which estimated that a further 1,300 individuals were injured in drone strikes over that period.
The report was commissioned by and written with the help of the London-based Reprieve organisation, which is supporting action in the British courts by Noor Khan (http://www.reprieve.org.uk/cases/2012_03_28_noor_khan/), a Pakistani whose father was killed by a US drone strike in March 2011. His legal challenge alleges the UK is complicit in US drone strikes because GCHQ, the eavesdropping agency, shares intelligence with the CIA on targets for drone strikes.
"US drones hover 24 hours a day over communities in north-west Pakistan, striking homes, vehicles, and public spaces without warning," the American law schools report says.
"Their presence terrorises men, women, and children, giving rise to anxiety and psychological trauma among civilian communities. Those living under drones have to face the constant worry that a deadly strike may be fired at any moment, and the knowledge that they are powerless to protect themselves.
"These fears have affected behaviour. The US practice of striking one area multiple times, and evidence that it has killed rescuers, makes both community members and humanitarian workers afraid or unwilling to assist injured victims."
The study goes on to say: "Publicly available evidence that the strikes have made the US safer overall is ambiguous at best ... The number of 'high-level' militants killed as a percentage of total casualties is extremely low – estimated at just 2% [of deaths]. Evidence suggests that US strikes have facilitated recruitment to violent non-state armed groups, and motivated further violent attacks ... One major study shows that 74% of Pakistanis now consider the US an enemy."
Coming from American lawyers rather than overseas human rights (http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/human-rights) groups, the criticisms are likely to be more influential in US domestic debates over the legality of drone warfare.
"US targeted killings and drone strike practices undermine respect for the rule of law and international legal protections and may set dangerous precedents," the report says, questioning whether Pakistan has given consent for the attacks.
"The US government's failure to ensure basic transparency and accountability in its targeted killings policies, to provide details about its targeted killing programme, or adequately to set out the legal factors involved in decisions to strike hinders necessary democratic debate about a key aspect of US foreign and national security policy.
"US practices may also facilitate recourse to lethal force around the globe by establishing dangerous precedents for other governments. As drone manufacturers and officials successfully reduce export control barriers, and as more countries develop lethal drone technologies, these risks increase."
The report supports the call by Ben Emmerson QC, the UN's special rapporteur on countering terrorism, for independent investigations (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/21/drone-strikes-international-law-un)into deaths from drone strikes and demands the release of the US department of justice memorandums outlining the legal basis for US targeted killings in Pakistan.
The report highlights the switch from the former president George W Bush's practice of targeting high-profile al-Qaida personalities to the reliance, under Obama's administration, of analysing patterns of life on the ground to select targets.
"According to US authorities, these strikes target 'groups of men who bear certain signatures, or defining characteristics associated with terrorist activity, but whose identities aren't known'," the report says. "Just what those 'defining characteristics' are has never been made public." People in North Waziristan are now afraid to attend funerals or other gatherings, it suggests.
Fears that US agents pay informers to attach electronic tags to the homes of suspected militants in Pakistan haunt the tribal districts, according to the study. "[In] Waziristan ... residents are gripped by rumours that paid CIA informants have been planting tiny silicon-chip homing devices that draw the drones.
"Many of the Waziris interviewed spoke of a constant fear of being tagged with a chip by a neighbour or someone else who works for either Pakistan or the US, and of the fear of being falsely accused of spying by local Taliban."
Reprieve's director, Clive Stafford Smith, said: "An entire region is being terrorised by the constant threat of death from the skies. Their way of life is collapsing: kids are too terrified to go to school, adults are afraid to attend weddings, funerals, business meetings, or anything that involves gathering in groups.
"George Bush wanted to create a global 'war on terror' without borders, but it has taken Obama's drone war to achieve his dream."
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U.S. Naval Surface Warfare Center helps create app to secretly monitor, reconstruct user environment in 3D
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Madison Ruppert, Contributor
Activist Post
We have covered a great deal of highly questionable smartphone software, as well as the fact that current software can easily be leveraged as a surveillance tool and games have even been created which use "soft control" to encourage citizen spying.
New technologies are going to make ultra-precise location information the norm which is especially troubling since our government claims that such data is not protected by the Constitution.
It just gets worse when we realize that mobile phone companies are responding to massive amounts of government requests and scientists have demonstrated the ability to accurately predict future movements based on location data.
Let's not forget the increasingly popular citizen spying applications and the microchips which actually can allow mobile devices to see through walls and other materials.
Now the United States Naval Surface Warfare Center in Crane, Indiana, in concert with researchers at Indiana University, have created a brand new kind of malicious software known as "visual malware" with their program named "PlaceRaider." Visual malware is capable of secretly recording and then reconstructing the environment surrounding a user in full 3D.
"This then allows the theft of virtual objects such as financial information, data on computer screens and identity-related information," according to the Physics arXiv Blog.
The truth about a few 'facts' you may hear at the debate (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/truth-few-facts-may-hear-debate-131955840--election.html)
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Ideally, when the curtain rises on the first presidential debate at the University of Denver on Wednesday night, President Barack Obama and GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney will spar over the issues shaping this election with honesty and clarity.
But let's face it, the debates are yet another chance to deliver campaign talking points in 60-second, uninterrupted bursts—pitches, according to a recent Y!/Esquire poll (http://news.yahoo.com/esquire-yahoo-news-poll-romney-ads-lie-more-both-dishonest.html), which many Americans think stray from the truth.
[Slideshow: Great debate moments (http://yhoo.it/SExPja)]
In anticipation of the spin, we've rounded up some of the debate's top topics and fact-checked the candidates' tropes in advance.
Taxes
Romney: Before either candidate muddles this up, here are the key planks of Romney's tax plan:
- Bush-era income tax cuts and capital gains tax cuts become permanent.
- All income tax rates are cut by an additional 20 percent.
- The Alternative Minimum Tax and the estate tax are repealed.
To paraphrase Bill Clinton at the DNC, the problem is arithmetic: While Romney denies this, FactCheck.org notes (http://www.factcheck.org/2012/08/romneys-impossible-tax-promise/) the idea that his plan can somehow "slash individual income tax rates without losing federal revenue or favoring the wealthy remains at best unproven and, in our judgment based on available evidence, impossible."
GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan recently had to dance around this fact when pressed on it by Fox News. Exasperated, he sighed and said, "I don't have time—it would take me too long to go through all the math."
Romney should probably have a better answer ready—he's likely to be grilled on the plan thanks to his recently released 2011 tax return, which revealed a 14 percent tax rate. Obama has questioned whether that's a fair rate, claiming Romney pays less in taxes than many middle- and low-income Americans (a claim that itself is true only if payroll taxes (http://www.factcheck.org/2012/08/does-romney-pay-a-lower-rate-in-taxes-than-you/) are included in the comparison).
The president will likely try to paint the 14 percent tax rate as an omen of things to come under Romney's plan, alleging that it would benefit the wealthy.
Jobs
Romney: As soon as you hear the former Massachusetts governor assure you of his plan to create 12 million jobs in only four years, remember this: Moody's Analytics and Macroeconomic Advisors predict that no matter who wins this election (http://jaredbernsteinblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/emp_moodys1.png), broader economic factors ensure that level of growth by 2016.
Romney is dressing up an apolitical projected figure as something his jobs plan could uniquely generate. It's a bit like promising a plan to keep the Earth rotating around the sun for the next four years.
Obama: The president, for his part, will take credit for creating an impressive "4.5 million jobs." He's playing a bit fast and loose to get that number, however, citing only private-sector job growth, and only over the past couple of years, without mentioning the job losses on his watch.
Obama has actually presided over a net increase (http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/democratic-disinformation-from-charlotte/) of about 300,000 private-sector jobs and, including the straggling public sector, a net decrease of about 300,000 total jobs. But you probably won't hear that from him onstage tonight.
Medicare
Romney: The GOP's "Medicare raid" meme alleges that Obama is about to rob Medicare to the tune of $700 billion in order to pay for the Affordable Care Act (ACA). This line earned Ryan a storm of jeers at a recent AARP conference (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/paul-ryan-booed-aarp-medicare-plan-obamacare/story?id=17289647#.UGM_zUTgJ0s)—but Romney may still try to float it for its sheer scare value.
In fact, the oft-cited $700 billion figure represents the savings the ACA yields over 10 years by reducing Medicare spending, and it's chiefly the providers rather than beneficiaries (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/answering-readers-questions-about-medicare/2012/08/27/ded01852-f099-11e1-892d-bc92fee603a7_blog.html) who pony up to finance the long-term spending cut.
Obama: If during the debate, however, the president starts bashing the "Romney-Ryan plan" on Medicare, claiming it costs seniors an extra $6,400, know that he's actually referring to the obsolete Ryan budget from 2011, not the plan backed by the Republican ticket. The actual plan shares the Democrats' goals of capping Medicare spending. (http://www.factcheck.org/2012/08/a-campaign-full-of-mediscare/)
Health care
Romney: Ever since the Supreme Court ruled the Affordable Care Act constitutional, Romney has backed off from his more hyperbolic criticisms of the law (http://factcheck.org/2012/05/romneys-gross-exaggeration-on-obamacare/), now stating that he'll repeal it and keep the good bits. He has yet to say, however, how he'd pay for those select parts.
Also during the debate, Romney will likely try to fuse Americans' concerns over jobs with lingering doubts about the ACA by repeating the old, standard line that "Obamacare" is "killing jobs in small business." As FactCheck.org notes (http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/gops-job-killing-whopper-again-2/), this line is a serious misreading of a report by the Congressional Budget Office, which actually says that due to the subsidies provided by the ACA, about 800,000 workers will retire earlier or juggle fewer jobs.
Deficit
Obama: The president is correct when he says that he "inherited the biggest deficit in our history," as he recently told Steve Kroft on "60 Minutes." But he tends to use that fact as a shield against any Republican criticism about his own contributions to the deficit, which are considerable. To both Kroft and the AARP he stretched the premise to its limit, claiming that all his policies, from the stimulus to the rebooted war in Afghanistan, account for only about 10 percent of the nation's deficit over the past four years. He blames the rest on President Bush.
That's what some would call a whopper (http://factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-deficit-dodge/)—but because Romney is probably eager to hammer the president on runaway spending, Obama might end up slipping this line into the debate anyway. The facts, however, are these:
- In fiscal year 2009 Obama was responsible for adding at most $203 billion to the deficit, which in the end topped $1.4 trillion that year. But FactCheck.org reminds us that "this was just the first of four years of trillion-plus deficits."
- The last three budgets fall squarely under Obama. And, during that time, the federal government ran up deficits of "$1.3 trillion in 2010, $1.3 trillion in 2011, and about $1.2 trillion in the fiscal year that ends Sept. 30—for a total of nearly $5.2 trillion in deficit spending," also according to FactCheck.org.
Energy
Obama: The president likes to say he's "doubled" a lot of things, most notably the generation of renewable energy and, in the long term, fuel efficiency of cars and trucks—and is likely to do so again on Wednesday night. These boasts will sound great, but unfortunately for him, they're heavily exaggerated.
Since Obama took office, only a certain division of renewable energy, that of wind and solar power, has doubled; overall, the increase in capacity is under 30 percent. And while the EPA is indeed raising fuel standards for increased efficiency by 2025, FactCheck.org has noted that, contrary to the president's rhetoric, our cars will hardly take us "twice as far" by that point. (http://factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-stump-speech/)
Romney: The GOP nominee has his own favorite talking points on energy (http://factcheck.org/2012/09/romneys-stump-speech/), starting with his misleading claim about what the president has "doubled": gas prices. This statement is technically true, but should be qualified by the fact that prices were extraordinarily low when Obama took office due to the recession.
Also hyped up is the nominee's talk about Keystone XL, the pipeline project to transport oil from Canada to plants in the Gulf Coast. The Romney refrain is that Obama botched a crucial energy project by wholly trashing the plans to import more oil from our neighbor to the north.
What Obama did was delay the assembly of the northern part of the new pipeline that was set through Nebraska's Sandhills, and he did so with bipartisan support from the state's lawmakers (http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/15/nation/la-na-keystone-pipeline-20111115). A new, more environmentally sensitive route is set to be approved in a few months, and the whole thing should be up by 2015.
Immigration
Romney: When the hot-button issue of immigration rears its head, be ready for the candidates to resort to political hit-and-runs. Romney is likely to toss out the charge that Obama "did nothing" to tackle immigration in his first three years (http://www.factcheck.org/tag/immigration/). But while the Obama administration certainly hasn't reached a comprehensive plan, the president lobbied for the DREAM act—which would qualify undocumented youth for a conditional path to citizenship—while the Democrats controlled the House and was met with opposition once the Republicans took over.
Romney might also complain that Obama's deferred-action plan—granting some children born in the U.S. to undocumented immigrants a reprieve from deportation—doesn't offer a permanent solution for aspiring immigrants. Yet in his own plan only young illegal immigrants who join the military would have access to that solution.
Obama: Meanwhile, Obama may claim that during the Republican primary season Romney endorsed Arizona's controversial SB1070 law—requiring police to determine detainees' immigration status, some argue through racial profiling—and called the law a "model for the nation."
But Romney was actually talking about Arizona's e-verify law (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/19/mitt-romney-campaign-e-verify_n_1437834.html), which more modestly requires employers to check a job candidate's immigration status on an online database.
Posle prve debate, Romni deluje kao da je ostvario prednos:
Romney goes on offense against subdued Obama in first debate (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-goes-offense-against-subdued-obama-first-debate-030217430--election.html)
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President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney squared off in their first face-to-face presidential debate Wednesday, battling for more than an hour over the future of the economy, the federal budget, tax cuts, education, health care and even the future of Big Bird.
Faced with several recent polls showing Romney falling behind, the GOP candidate may have bought himself some added time after Wednesday's debate, where he appeared on the offensive against Obama. Romney's answers to questions from the moderator, Jim Lehrer of PBS Newshour, who played a subdued role over the course of the evening, were crisp and appeared well-rehearsed. His responses included as many specifics as the limited time would allow, and Romney seemed to hit his marks in a way Obama was not able to.
The "zingers" promised for the debate were scarce, and both instead used their time to carefully outline ideas for how they would govern. Romney and Obama used personal examples to supplement their points.
In perhaps the most anticipated moment of the debate, Romney survived the session on health care reform, which could have been a major liability for the Republican nominee. As governor of Massachusetts, Romney championed a state health care law that later became the partial blueprint for Obama's national health care overhaul that Romney now says he wants to repeal. During the debate, Romney worked to show the difference between the two laws, while Obama aimed to tie them together. Obama scored points in noting that many of the ideas that made it into the final health care law originated with with Republicans, but Romney escaped the exchange with only minor wounds.
"There's a reason why Governor Romney set up the plan that he did in Massachusetts," Obama said. "It wasn't a government takeover of health care. It was the largest expansion of private insurance."
Although the debate began awkwardly with both candidates discussing the president's 20th wedding anniversary, the contest quickly moved into what at times became a tense conversation that showed the difference between their competing visions for the future of the country and the role of government. But for much of the first part of the contest, both Obama and Romney spent a lot of time working to fact check the other.
Obama launched an early attack on Romney for proposing a tax plan that cuts federal government programs but does not include tax increases on the wealthy. He knocked the former governor for not providing specifics about his own plan for tax reform and said his initiative would raise taxes on middle-income families by $2,000 and lower them for millionaires.
"Virtually everything he just said about my tax plan is inaccurate," Romney shot back, adding that he doesn't intend to raise taxes under his plan.
Obama pressed that there was no way to achieve sound deficit reduction without what he called a "balanced approach" that includes tax increases and spending cuts, forcing Romney to double down on a policy against raising taxes under any circumstances.
The debate, which lacked the contentious moments of the Republican primary contests, marked nearly five years since Obama and Romney have seen each other in person. Both men, however, have studied the other from afar through campaign ads, briefing books and tapes of old debates during preparations for the big night.
For some voters, Wednesday's debate was Romney's first real opportunity to make an impression. As the challenger, Romney was tasked with showing voters what distinguished him from the president and his policies, and how his own ideas would make the country better off. The debate also offered the Republican nominee an opportunity to display his personality, which at times can appear stiff or halted when portrayed in news coverage.
In a way, Obama faced an even deeper challenge. After four years under his watch, the unemployment rate remains above 8 percent and the national debt now tops over $16 trillion. Indeed, the president inherited a post over a nation facing one of the deepest recessions in recent history, but Obama had to make the case that his policies were the right ones without merely saying "it could have been worse." If the end of his first term is a performance review and the debates are his time to make a defense, it's crucial for him to hit his marks.
In a race in which more than 90 percent of the electorate has already made up their minds, both of the candidates' remarks over the course of the debate were intended for the ears of the few, albeit powerful, undecided voters living in swing states. Each in their own way made pitches to these prospective supporters, while still giving confidence to their respective bases that they would not veer from their principles.
National polls show the race for the popular vote is at a near dead-heat just a month before the election, but an examination of surveys conducted in battleground states suggest Romney could face a deficit of support in areas he must win to best the president.
Wednesday night Romney made a solid first step.
The candidates will face each other twice more before Election Day, for a townhall-style debate in New York on Oct. 16 and a final contest over foreign policy in Florida on Oct. 22.
After the debate debacle for Obama, we'll find out if we have a race (http://news.yahoo.com/after-the-debate-debacle-for-obama--we%E2%80%99ll-find-out-if-we-have-a-race.html)
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Yes, it was as bad as it seemed.
No, it wasn't Jim Lehrer's fault for letting Romney expound; Obama got more time (four minutes more) than Romney. Besides, it's not the moderator's job to call a debater out on questionable assertions. It's the opponent's job.
Yes, it wasn't the best atmospherics for Obama to look down, purse his lips, appear distracted, while Romney was attentive, engaged, relaxed. But this was much more than atmospherics. This was about one candidate who came with a frame for the evening, and who was prepared to engage on every question; and another who, perhaps because of his documented faith in his own abilities, felt he could wing it with snatches of familiar verbiage.
Most surprising, the whole evening felt as if Obama thought he was back in 2008, needing only to demonstrate a sense of cool, calm collectedness to persuade the voters that they could do what they desperately wanted to do: change course.
There was barely a moment when Obama offered any sense that he was prepared to challenge Romney on his weakest point: who does the Republican presidential nominee speak for? How much (or little) does he understand where the country is, how it got here?
Even on the most basic political points, Obama seemed clueless. When you argue as a Democrat that you and your Republican opponent share wide areas of agreement on Social Security—especially when recipients make up a chunk of Romney's "47 percent" of indolent spongers—you have thrown in a fistful of high cards.
What remains is one key question that the next 48 to 72 hours will answer: Did this debate change the minds of significant numbers of voters? Assuming that the flash polls are right—that most viewers thought Romney won the debate—did they regard that as a loss for "their" team, or did it persuade some of them to change their minds about whom they are supporting,
One of the enduring myths of campaign analysis is that you can actually count the number of "undecided" voters by asking voters if they are undecided or not. Sometimes, significant numbers of voters actually change their minds. That's how Reagan turned a small lead into a landslide in 1980. It's how Gore won the popular vote in 2000, and how Kerry got back into the race in 2004.
If this debate—as one-sided as any I have ever seen—does not change the landscape, if Obama retains a small but measurable lead, it means that the election is more or less over (barring some overwhelmingly consequential event), that voters have decided they are going to stick with the President. That is thin gruel on which the Obama campaign must dine for the next few days; but after this debacle, it's the only sustenance on the menu.
Od sledećeg meseca ja izveštavam sa lica mesta.
Znači stižeš tek pred izbore ili kako?
Taman na vreme da na vratima dočekujem Indijance u pohodu na slatkiše.
Aha to je 31. Oktobar, a izbori su šestog Novembra, dakle imaćeš nedelju dana da gledaš predizborni program u fulu. Neće ti biti lako :lol:
Jedu li oni tamo bundevare i krkljuš il' im ludaje služe samo kao rasveta?
Ne znam šta ti je krkljuš, ali sam ja počeo da jedem bundeve kad je moj zet napravio čorbu od sedam vrsta bundeva. Oktobar i novembar su vreme bundeva, ali ove koje su za rasvetu skoro da i ne jedu. Ima drugih koje su sjajne za jelo.
Meho, mi smo tamo 29-og, a kampanje će biti i preko nosa. Posle jedne takve nikada ne bi više pričao o srpskom nacionalizmu. Zastave bi nosili i u turu samo kad bi bilo IN, a u svako dvorište pobodu tablicu svog kandidata da se zna.
Krkljuš - pekmez od ludaje.
Bem ti pekmez od ludaje. Slikaću ti razne vrste jestivih bundeva, da vidiš šta sve ima.
Ромни за прецједника!
Slikaj ti meni ono iz tepsije - red bundeva, red krompira, red luka, red barenih kolenica. To samo još na slici smem da gledam :(
Nadam se da Čarls ovo ne čita. Napraviće, kakav je.
Ma, pustite sad bundeve, treba ratovati protiv terora. Naime, ispada da Department of Homeland Security ima manje nego impresivne rezultate u svom ratu protiv terorizma:
Lawmakers divided on counterterror effort (http://www.nctimes.com/news/national/intelligence-effort-named-citizens-not-terrorists/article_2fc79bd3-3ed7-55e9-b21d-5f04527775a2.html)
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Stinging criticism from Congress about a counterterrorism effort that improperly collected information about innocent Americans is turning up the heat on the Obama administration to justify the program's continued existence and putting lawmakers who championed it on the defensive.
The administration strongly disagrees with the report's findings, and leaders of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee are distancing themselves from the report. The review criticized the multibillion-dollar network of "fusion centers" as ineffective in fighting terrorism and risky to civil liberties.
The political maneuvering by Sens. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and Susan Collins, R-Maine, is unusual because the bipartisan report was issued by their own subcommittee.
The intelligence reports reviewed by the subcommittee were produced by officials in the Homeland Security Department's Intelligence and Analysis division, which was created after the Sept. 11 attacks with the hope of connecting the dots to prevent the next terrorist strike. This division has never lived up to what Congress initially hoped for.
Lieberman and Collins were the driving forces behind the creation of the department. Fusion centers, the analytical centers intended to spot terrorism trends in every state, are held up by many as the crown jewel of the department's security efforts.
"I strongly disagree with the report's core assertion that fusion centers have been unable to meaningfully contribute to federal counterterrorism efforts," Lieberman said in a statement Wednesday, singling out six "shortcomings" in the report. Collins issued a separate statement that listed four shortcomings.
A Lieberman spokeswoman said the report came from the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, rather than the full committee.
"I know that seems odd, but this is strictly a PSI report," Lieberman spokeswoman Leslie Phillips wrote in an email.
The Homeland Security Department and several major law enforcement associations also strongly disagreed with the findings. Pulling back federal money for the program would force state and local governments to cover all of the costs.
The department said the report is outdated and inaccurate. It cited specific examples of how the centers have contributed to counterterrorism efforts in major cases, including the 2010 attempted car bombing in New York City's Times Square. That's an example the subcommittee challenges in its report.
The subcommittee reviewed more than 600 unclassified reports over a one-year period and concluded that most had nothing to do with terrorism. The subcommittee chairman is Democrat Carl Levin of Michigan, and the top Republican is Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma.
One center cited in the investigation wrote a report about a Muslim community group's list of book recommendations. Others discussed American citizens speaking at mosques or talking to Muslim groups about parenting.
No evidence of criminal activity was contained in those reports. The government did not circulate them, but it kept them on government computers. The federal government is prohibited from storing information about First Amendment-protected activities not related to crimes.
States have had criminal analysis centers for years, but the fusion centers were set up after the 2001 attacks as officials realized that a terrorism tip was as likely to come from a local police officer as the CIA.
Though fusion centers receive money from the federal government, they are operated independently. A federal law co-sponsored by Lieberman and Collins authorized that centers cover criminal or terrorist activity.
Five years later, Senate investigators found, terrorism is often a secondary focus.
The report is as much an indictment of Congress as it is the Homeland Security Department.
"Congress and two administrations have urged DHS to continue or even expand its support of fusion centers, without providing sufficient oversight to ensure the intelligence from fusion centers is commensurate with the level of federal investment," the report said.
One of the report's recommendations is that the department needs to do a better job of tracking how its money is spent; that's a recommendation with which both Collins and Lieberman agree.
Despite that, Congress is unlikely to pull the plug because the program means politically important money for state and local governments, and Homeland Security officials are adamant that the money is well spent.
In 2010, after Faisal Shahzad was caught for trying to blow up a vehicle in New York's Times Square, fusion centers examined their own systems to see if there were any relationships with intelligence they had related to Shahzad, said John Cohen, a senior advisor to the Homeland Security secretary.
Cohen said centers in Florida and Virginia discovered individuals who had connections to Shahzad but who were unknown to the FBI. The centers shared the information with FBI investigators, Cohen said, and that produced additional leads that are still under investigation.
But the example is one the congressional investigators condemn. "The information does not appear to have played any key role in the Shahzad case," the report said.
Cohen also cited a 2011 case in Seattle in which two men approached someone in Seattle about purchasing weapons. The person they approached happened to be a police informant and reported the incident to his handler, Cohen said. The police handler was assigned to the local fusion center that was able to identify the two people who approached the informant, he said.
The fusion center did more analysis on the men, including digging into their criminal backgrounds, determined they might want to do more than just purchase firearms and handed the information over to the local FBI-led joint terrorism task force. The men were arrested and charged with plotting a terror attack on a military office in Seattle. While the subcommittee did not review this particular case, court records state that the men approached the police informant and were specific about their plans to attack a military office when they asked about obtaining weapons.
The recent Senate report is not the first time questions have been raised about civil liberties and privacy protections in fusion centers.
The centers have made headlines for circulating information about supporters of GOP presidential primary candidate Ron Paul, the ACLU, activists on both sides of the abortion debate, war protesters and advocates of gun rights.
The Obama administration has put policies in place and required that fusion centers have privacy and civil liberty policies in order to receive federal funding. But the ACLU and other civil liberties organizations continue to call for better privacy protections.
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Associated Press writer Gene Johnson contributed to this report from Seattle.
Taman sam počeo da uživam na ovom topiku, a ono opet manijački linkovi. xfrog
Ali treba uživati i u propasti Amerike, ne samo u bundevama!!!!!!!
Sad je vreme bundeva, ludaja i izbornog ludila. Propašće kad pojedu bundeve.
Quote from: scallop on 04-10-2012, 12:04:46
Nadam se da Čarls ovo ne čita. Napraviće, kakav je.
Nadam se i ja da ne čita - zaboravio sam da izmeđ' luka i kolenica udenem ki'so kupus :-x
Pa, da. Mora nešto da štiti kolenice od bundeva. :oops:
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/05/us/florida-pileup/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/05/us/florida-pileup/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
52 hurt in multiple-vehicle pileup on I-75 in Florida
Fifty-two people were hurt Friday in a pileup involving dozens of vehicles on an interstate highway on Florida's Gulf Coast, police said.
The accident, which occurred about 3:30 p.m., involved at least 46 vehicles in the southbound lanes of I-75 on the Manatee/Sarasota county line, said Lt. Chris Miller with the Florida Highway Patrol. Twenty-two people, three of them in critical condition, were taken to area hospitals, he said.
None of the injuries was considered life-threatening, he said. "Quite a few had minor injuries that didn't require transport," he said.
Troje u kritičnom stanju a ni jedna povreda nije opasna po život???? WTF
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-tainted-steroid-reached-illinois-22-other-states-20121005,0,928745.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-tainted-steroid-reached-illinois-22-other-states-20121005,0,928745.story)
Tainted steroid reached Illinois, 22 other states
Federal health officials say Illinois is among 23 states that received shipments of a steroid linked to a deadly meningitis outbreak.
The Illinois Department of Public Health, however, says there are no illnesses reported in the state.
Health providers are scrambling to notify patients in nearly two dozen states that the routine steroid injections they received for back pain in recent months may have been contaminated with a deadly fungal meningitis.
It became apparent Thursday that hundreds, and perhaps thousands, of people who got the shots between July and September could be at risk after officials revealed that a tainted steroid suspected to have caused a meningitis outbreak in the South had made its way to 75 clinics in 23 states.
The Food and Drug Administration urged physicians not to use any products at all from the Massachusetts pharmacy that supplied the preservative-free methylprednisolone acetate.
A mi se nešto mrštimo što popovi sede u savetu RRA. Evo šta kaže američki član kongresa, pa još član komisije za Svemir, nauku i tehnologiju:
Congressman calls evolution lie from 'pit of hell' (http://bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/20121006congressman_calls_evolution_lie_from__pit_of_hell)
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ATHENS, Ga. — Georgia Rep. Paul Broun said in videotaped remarks that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are "lies straight from the pit of hell" meant to convince people that they do not need a savior.
The Republican lawmaker made those comments during a speech Sept. 27 at a sportsman's banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell. Broun, a medical doctor, is running for re-election in November unopposed by Democrats.
"God's word is true," Broun said, according to a video posted on the church's website. "I've come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. And it's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who are taught that from understanding that they need a savior."
Broun also said that he believes the Earth is about 9,000 years old and that it was made in six days. Those beliefs are held by fundamentalist Christians who believe the creation accounts in the Bible to be literally true.
Broun spokeswoman Meredith Griffanti told the Athens Banner-Herald (http://bit.ly/Us4O0Z) that Broun was recorded speaking off-the-record to a church group about his religious beliefs. He sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.
It seems unlikely that Broun's remarks were supposed to be kept private. The banquet was advertised, Broun spoke before an audience and the video of his remarks was posted on the church's website
Šta ćeš. Eno i najviđeniji jevrejski naučnici dokazuju da je Simon iz Pereje bio Mesija pre Hrista i da je ovaj samo plagijator. Potrošiše silne pare na istraživanje neke kamene ploče i jedino što su dokazali je da je ključno slovo za ovu teoriju u nekom trenutku ostrugano i napisano novo koje se ne vidi. :-?
Srećom, mali čovek još ima načina da uzvrati udarac. Na primer, ako je kvalitetan haker, da se javi na oglas koga navodno daje dobro organizovana sajberbanda kojoj su potrebni saradnici za napad na američke banke:
Cybercrime Gang Recruiting Botmasters for Large-Scale MiTM Attacks on American Banks (https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/cybercrime-gang-recruiting-botmasters-large-scale-mitm-attacks-american-banks-100412)
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A slew of major American banks, some already stressed by a stream of DDoS attacks (http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/automated-toolkits-named-massive-ddos-attacks-against-us-banks-100212) carried out over the past 10 days, may soon have to brace themselves for a large-scale coordinated attack bent on pulling off fraudulent wire transfers.
RSA's FraudAction research team (http://blogs.rsa.com/?p=6694) has been monitoring underground chatter and has put together various clues to deduce that a cybercrime gang is actively recruiting up to 100 botmasters to participate in a complicated man-in-the-middle hijacking scam using a variant of the proprietary Gozi Trojan (http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/finnish-police-arrest-17-online-banking-scam-051111).
This is the first time a private cybercrime organization has recruited outsiders to participate in a financially motivated attack, said Mor Ahuvia, cybercrime communications specialist for RSA FraudAction. The attackers are promising their recruits a cut of the profits, and are requiring an initial investment in hardware and training in how to deploy the Gozi Prinimalka Trojan, Ahuvia added. Also, the gang will only share executable files with their partners, and will not give up the Trojan's compilers, keeping the recruits dependent on the gang for updates
Generally, cybercrime gangs deploy as few as five individual botmasters to help in successful campaigns; with this kind of scale, banks could be facing up 30 times the number of compromised machines and fraudulent transfers, if the campaign is successful.
"This Trojan is not well known. This is not SpyEye (http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/microsoft-targets-spyeye-trojan-latest-msrt-update-101311) or Citadel (https://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/citadel-malware-crew-may-be-taking-its-wares-market-070212); it's not available for everyone to buy," Ahuvia said. "Security vendors and antivirus signatures are less likely to catch it or be familiar with it. It will be tricky for vendors to detect and block it. This gang is keeping a tight hold on the compiler. By only giving up executable files, they can control how any antivirus signatures are in the wild and keep unique signatures to a minimum."
As many as 30 banks have been targeted, many of them well known and high profile, Ahuvia said. RSA said the gang is targeting American banks because of past success in beating their defenses, as well as a lack of two-factor authentication required for wire transfers.Some European banks, for example, require consumers to use two-factor authentication. She added that RSA FraudAction was unsure how far along the recruitment campaign had gone, or when the attacks would launch.
"There is the chance that once we've gone public, they may abandon their plans because there's too much buzz around it," Ahuvia said. "On the other hand, I don't think anything we know will have such a dramatic effect on them. There are so many Trojans available and so many points of failure in security that could go wrong, that they'd still have some chance of success."
RSA's researchers were able to make the connection to the Gozi Prinimalka Trojan, which has been in circulation since 2008 and responsible for $5 million in fraud-related losses. Prinimalka is similar to the Gozi Trojan in technical and operational aspects, RSA said, leading to speculation the HangUp Team, which was tied to previous Gozi attacks, is behind this attack as well. Prinimalka is Russian for the word "receive" and is a folder name in every URL patch given by this particular gang to its crimeware servers.
Prinimalka uses the same bot-to-server communication pattern and URL trigger list as Gozi, RSA said. But deployment of the two Trojans is different: Gozi writes a single DLL file to bots upon deployment, while Prinimalka writes two, an executable file and a DAT file which reports to the command and control server.
Once the Trojan is launched, the botmaster fires up a virtual machine synching module. The module then duplicates the victim's computer, including identifiable features such as time zone, screen resolution, cookies, browser type and version, and software identification, RSA said. This allows the botmaster to impersonate the victim's machine and access their accounts. Access is carried out over a SOCKS proxy connection installed on the victim's machine, RSA said.
The cloned virtual system then can move about on the genuine IP address of the compromised machine when accessing the bank website. Taking it a step further, the attackers deploy VoIP phone flooding software that will prevent the victim from receiving a confirmation call or text alerting them to unusual transfer activity, RSA said.
"They are looking for this to be a quick campaign," Ahuvia said. "They want to make as much as they can until the banks and users harden their systems. They want to cash out quickly."
Charlie Fuqua, Arkansas Legislative Candidate, Endorses Death Penalty For Rebellious Children In Book (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/charlie-fuqua-arkansas-candidate-death-penalty-rebellious-children_n_1948490.html?utm_hp_ref=tw)
QuoteThe maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline. Therefore, a child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly. The guidelines for administering the death penalty to rebellious children are given in Deut 21:18-21: This passage does not give parents blanket authority to kill their children. They must follow the proper procedure in order to have the death penalty executed against their children. I cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death. Why is this so? Other than the love Christ has for us, there is no greater love then [sic] that of a parent for their child. The last people who would want to see a child put to death would be the parents of the child. Even so, the Scrpture provides a safe guard to protect children from parents who would wrongly exercise the death penalty against them. Parents are required to bring their children to the gate of the city. The gate of the city was the place where the elders of the city met and made judicial pronouncements. In other words, the parents were required to take their children to a court of law and lay out their case before the proper judicial authority, and let the judicial authority determine if the child should be put to death. I know of many cases of rebellious children, however, I cannot think of one case where I believe that a parent had given up on their child to the point that they would have taken their child to a court of law and asked the court to rule that the child be put to death. Even though this procedure would rarely be used, if it were the law of land, it would give parents authority. Children would know that their parents had authority and it would be a tremendous incentive for children to give proper respect to their parents.
Upravo dođoh to da okačim. :lol:
QuoteI cannot think of one instance in the Scripture where parents had their child put to death
a) A to što je Isak zamalo fasovao?
b) A Isus???
c) Tedoh i Avesaloma da pomenem ali zapravo nije bitno...
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/09/us/california-squirrel-plague/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/09/us/california-squirrel-plague/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
California squirrel tests positive for plague exposure
Authorities in Riverside County, California, said Tuesday that a ground squirrel has tested positive for exposure to fleas infected with the bacteria that can cause plague.
It's the country's first positive test in more than a decade, according to Dottie Merki, environmental health program chief at the Riverside County Department of Environmental Health.
"It's not something that people should panic about, but we do want them to be educated so they can protect their families and their pets," she said.
The squirrel was picked up in early September at a campground north of Idyllwild, located in the San Jacinto Mountains in southern California.
Routine tests are done as plague is endemic to the area, said Merki. Authorities plan to conduct more tests this week, weather permitting, she said.
Plague is caused by the bacterium, Yersinia pestis.
Humans can get plague from handling an infected animal or from being bitten by a rodent flea carrying the bacterium, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Plague can cause serious illness or death, though modern antibiotics are effective in treating it if administered promptly, the CDC said.
Health officials in Riverside County stressed that the risk of transmission to humans is small, especially if people take the proper precautions. They offered the following advice:
-- Avoid contact with squirrels and other wild animals
-- Do not feed or touch wild animals
-- Do not touch dead animals
-- Do not rest or camp near animal burrows
-- Protect your pets by leaving them at home, or by keeping them on a leash and using flea-control methods
Girl, 7, survives bubonic plague
Deaths rise to 12, with nearly 120 sickened in rare meningitis outbreak
Do not hug, feed or eat dead squirrels :evil:
Amerika na ivici propasti! Doktrina prve prodaje u opasnosti!!!!! Dakle, kao što znamo, bez obzira na to da neko drugi poseduje prava na dizajn i sadržaj artikla koji kupujemo, on ne može da polaže pravo na kontrolu nad tim artiklom nakon što smo ga kupili - dakle slobodni smo da ga prodamo nekom drugom bez dozvole vlasnika patenta/ trejdmarka/ kopirajta. E, pa sad, suđenje pred vrhovnim sudom može da donese presedan u kome će se presuditi da ovo ne važi za artikle proizvedene izvan USA i da za takve artikle vlasnik mora da dobije eksplicitnu dozvolu od vlasnika autorskih prava da bi ih prodao.
Drugim rečima: artikli proizvedeni u USA biće retki i skupi i još više proizvodnje će se premestiti u druge zemlje. Pretpostavljam da je sudu ovo jasno i da neće doneti ovakvu presudu, al... ko zna...
Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/your-right-to-resell-your-own-stuff-is-in-peril-2012-10-04)
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CHICAGO (MarketWatch) — Tucked into the U.S. Supreme Court's agenda this fall is a little-known case that could upend your ability to resell everything from your grandmother's antique furniture to your iPhone 4.
At issue in Kirtsaeng v. John Wiley & Sons is the first-sale doctrine in copyright law, which allows you to buy and then sell things like electronics, books, artwork and furniture, as well as CDs and DVDs, without getting permission from the copyright holder of those products.
Under the doctrine, which the Supreme Court has recognized since 1908, you can resell your stuff without worry because the copyright holder only had control over the first sale.
Put simply, though Apple Inc. /quotes/zigman/68270/quotes/nls/aapl AAPL +0.80% has the copyright on the iPhone and Mark Owen has it on the book "No Easy Day," you can still sell your copies to whomever you please whenever you want without retribution.
That's being challenged now for products that are made abroad, and if the Supreme Court upholds an appellate court ruling, it would mean that the copyright holders of anything you own that has been made in China, Japan or Europe, for example, would have to give you permission to sell it.
"It means that it's harder for consumers to buy used products and harder for them to sell them," said Jonathan Band, an adjunct professor at Georgetown University Law Center, who filed a friend-of-the-court brief on behalf of the American Library Association, the Association of College and Research Libraries and the Association for Research Libraries. "This has huge consumer impact on all consumer groups."
Another likely result is that it would hit you financially because the copyright holder would now want a piece of that sale.
It could be your personal electronic devices or the family jewels that have been passed down from your great-grandparents who immigrated from Spain. It could be a book that was written by an American writer but printed and bound overseas, or an Italian painter's artwork.
There are implications for a variety of wide-ranging U.S. entities, including libraries, musicians, museums and even resale juggernauts eBay Inc. /quotes/zigman/76117/quotes/nls/ebay EBAY +1.17% and Craigslist. U.S. libraries, for example, carry some 200 million books from foreign publishers.
"It would be absurd to say anything manufactured abroad can't be bought or sold here," said Marvin Ammori, a First Amendment lawyer and Schwartz Fellow at the New American Foundation who specializes in technology issues.
The case stems from Supap Kirtsaeng's college experience. A native of Thailand, Kirtsaeng came to America in 1997 to study at Cornell University. When he discovered that his textbooks, produced by Wiley, were substantially cheaper to buy in Thailand than they were in Ithaca, N.Y., he rallied his Thai relatives to buy the books and ship them to him in the United States.
He then sold them on eBay, making upward of $1.2 million, according to court documents.
Wiley, which admitted that it charged less for books sold abroad than it did in the United States, sued him for copyright infringement. Kirtsaeng countered with the first-sale doctrine.
Auh, ovo je baš zeznut slučaj. Ne znam ni za koga da navijam. S jedne strane jesam pristalica politike da siromašniji delovi sveta plaćaju manje za isti proizvod, ali s druge strane kupac jeste vlasnik onoga što je kupio, uključujući i prava na prodaju. Možda bi se stvar rešila iznajmljivanjem knjiga.
Mi tu nismo u iskušenju. Kod nas je sve skuplje nego u Americi. Međutim, ja bih neke stvari mogao da kupim tamo, pa da risejlujem ovde.
Ma, mislim, meni je prilično jasno zašto se izdavač mršti i tužaka ali ko ih jebe? Prodaja stvari koje smo kupili mora biti "prirodno" pravo, a ako imaju problem sa tim što se neko setio da od toga napravi biznis - zašto oni ne poprave svoj biznis model i budu mu dostojna konkurencija? Nego sad da menjamo zakone da bi se očuvao njihov zastareli. Pazi kurca!!
Opiši mi molim te taj bolji biznis model. Moje predviđanje je da će izdavačke kuće izjednačiti cene, to jest neće sve biti jednako jeftino nego jednako skupo. Ljudi u siromašnim državama neće moći sebi da priušte stručne knjige, što znači da će još više tehnološki zaostati u odnosu na razvijene zemlje. Da li je to prihvatljiv gubitak?
Ma ovo je već samrtni hropac. Sad gledajte kanibalizam između korporacija.
Quote from: mac on 11-10-2012, 13:31:54
Opiši mi molim te taj bolji biznis model. Moje predviđanje je da će izdavačke kuće izjednačiti cene, to jest neće sve biti jednako jeftino nego jednako skupo. Ljudi u siromašnim državama neće moći sebi da priušte stručne knjige, što znači da će još više tehnološki zaostati u odnosu na razvijene zemlje. Da li je to prihvatljiv gubitak?
Pogrešna ti je procena. Izdavačke kuće to ne mogu da realizuju. Ti silni tiraži, koji samo štampani u Aziji mogu da budu za izdavače dovoljno jeftini, moraju da budu prodati u dovoljnom procentu da bi bili isplativi. A nemaju doboljan broj kupaca koji bi platili retail price od, na primer, 30$ za knjigu "Meat" koju sam ja u fazi bargain ( koja je na kraju lanca skidanja cene iz sale i total sale) platim 5,99$. Već sam napisao da je i to više od cene koju su oni platili. Dakle, mora da postoji niža cena za deo tiraža koji ne dospeva na njihovo domaće tržište i ne podleže domaćim poreskim taksama. Naravno, oni mogu da pokušaju da spreče dopremanje tih jeftinijih knjiga u SAD, ali, kad stignu pravo kupca je nenadjebivo. Mislim da se linkovana priča odnosi na naučne i stručne knjige, gde su tiraži manji, a cena basnoslovna (100 i više dolara), ali, te knjige se i lakše unose u zemlju pa su na istom.
Prilično je poznato da su univerzitetski udžbenici u USA izuzetno skupi jer postoji kartelski model poslovanja njihovih izdavača, zaštićenih postojećom legislativom. Mislim da smo pisali o tome negde ovde ali mrzi me sad da tražim pa evo ovo istraživanje (http://www.lib.umich.edu/files/services/copyright/textbooksinamerica.pdf). Pošto se izvan USA bore sa konkurencijom, tamo knjige prodaju po prihvatljivijim cenama. Dakle, čini mi se da se odgovor sam nameće - tržišno poslovanje.
Tamo je sve biznis. Čak je i biznis - biznis :roll:
Svaki sistem kreće od mikromenadžmenta, pa kad dovoljno naraste ide se na makromenadžment, a onda, kad sistem preraste sebe, opet se ide na mikromenadžment a to je već početak kataklizme jer se aktivira autoimuna bolest.
Nekada, kada su knjige bile u pitanju, outsourcing je išao u SSSR, tamo su skupi udžbenici prevođeni bez licence i koštali su džabalesku. Trebalo je samo malo znati ruski.
Ne znam da li sada i dalje radi ta piraterija. Bilo bi dobro da radi.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 11-10-2012, 13:11:00
Ma, mislim, meni je prilično jasno zašto se izdavač mršti i tužaka ali ko ih jebe? Prodaja stvari koje smo kupili mora biti "prirodno" pravo, a ako imaju problem sa tim što se neko setio da od toga napravi biznis - zašto oni ne poprave svoj biznis model i budu mu dostojna konkurencija? Nego sad da menjamo zakone da bi se očuvao njihov zastareli. Pazi kurca!!
Nek si im reko!
I što samo američki udžbenici? Važi to i za druge neanglofone zemlje i njihovu stručnu literaturu. -.-
Možda važi al ovi pokušavaju da naruše princip prilično svet za Ameriku (slobodno tržište) da bi zaštitili svoj oligopolski položaj pa zato njih pominjemo.
Pazi sad sekundarni efekat. Recimo da na istu temu imamo nekoliko stručnih knjiga. Tebi treba samo jedna. Knjige su različite po kvalitetu, ali jedna je najbolja, i svi je žele. Sad nastupaju Tajlanđani koji uvoze u jače tržište tu najbolju knjigu koju svi žele. Zbog Tajlanđana najbolja knjiga ima najmanju zaradu. Šta će u budućnosti raditi izdavačke kuće? Prosto, potrudiće se da njihova knjiga na datu temu ne bude najbolja.
Ne, zaboga, ovde je poenta da su cene u USA "nreprirodno" visoke jer nema stvarnog nadmetanja na tržištu. Dakle, rešenje je da se uspostavi normalna konkurencija i nadmetanje kvalitetom i cenom. Druge grane industrije to već rade, zašto bismo izdavačima udžbenika davali poseban zakonski status?
Izvinjavam se, ali mene uvek poremeti upotreba termina oligopolija i možda sam loše uveren da wiki barata nepreciznim primerima. Prema podacima sa kojima sam ja radio oligopolija je razmerena od 0 do 100% i ocenjuje stepen monopolizacije u nekoj privrednoj grani. Ukoliko se više prouzvođača udružuje radi kontrole prodaje svojih proizvoda onda je takvo udruživanje sankcionisano antitrust ili antimonopolskom regulativom. Stoga se John Wiley & Sons i slične firme koje se bave izdavaštvom naučne literature ne mogu nazivati "oligopolistima", jer su naučna područja toliko razuđena da ne mogu biti tržišno kartelski kontrolisana. Visoke cene naučne literature su isključivo posledica ograničenih tiraža.
Pa, ja sam dao link na studiju koja se problemom bavi, baci pogled šta tamo kažu. Ili, evo citata koji dosta otkriva:
QuoteIn seeking to determine causes for the perceived rise in textbook prices, the
GAO interviewed a wide variety of industry specialists, including
"executives from five textbook publishers that account for more than 80 percent
of new textbook sales; the three major national used textbook wholesalers; three
companies that operate over 1,300 college textbook retail stores, or 29 percent of
stores nationwide; the National Association of College Stores; the Association of
American Publishers; the California and state Public Interest Research Groups;
and various other industry experts" (2005, p. 2).
The study found that between 1986 and 2004, college textbooks prices rose at twice the
rate of annual inflation. The cost of textbooks had nearly tripled in that time frame. The study
also agrees with the earlier state PIRGs reports in naming textbooks as a burden relative to the
type of institution attended: For first-time, full-time students at a four-year public institution,
textbooks cost an average of $898 in the 2003-04 school year, compared with $886 for the same
year at two-year public institutions. For the first group, this number made up roughly a quarter of
the cost of tuition and fees, but for the second group, the number made up roughly three-quarters
of the cost of tuition and fees (Government Accountability Office, 2005, p. 3).
The GAO study agrees with the "Ripoff 101" reports in naming the practice of bundling
as a main cause of increased prices. The report cites its discussion with publishing executives
who claimed that "they have tailored their instructional supplements to enhance instructor
productivity and teaching, largely to meet the needs of instructors in an environment of funding
cuts" (p. 15). However, the report also cites that wholesalers, retailers and public interest groups
that were interviewed in the course of the study voiced concern that the practice of bundling
"may limit the ability students have to decrease their costs by purchasing less expensive used
textbooks" (p. 16), which lines up well with the arguments presented in the "Ripoff 101" reports.
Among the explanation of the difficulties associated with bundling, retailers reported that they
cannot reliably attain new bundled materials to be sold along with the used books, and that
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bundled items with broken seals must be absorbed at loss by the retailer if returned by the
student because the publishers will only accept the return of sealed bundles (p. 16, 17).
Another point where the GAO study agrees with the "Ripoff 101" reports concerns the
frequency of new editions of textbooks, which the report finds to have an adverse effect on
student finances. Publishers admit that textbooks are revised on a cycle of three to four years.
The report shows that the turnover rate of new editions prevents the establishment of a used book
market for students and prevents retailers from buying back old editions from students. While the
publishers claim it is a practice "driven by instructors who want the most current material and
may seek products from competitors if they are unable to meet the demand" (Government
Accountability Office, 2005, p. 18), the study cites a letter created by the state PIRGs from April
2004 which undercuts this argument: "700 mathematics and physics instructors from 150
universities across the country have petitioned one publisher to delay revisions until there have
been substantial changes in content or teaching methods that merit revision" (p. 18). However,
the report does offer up the publishers' counter argument that although new revisions do not
always reflect substantial change in content, they might reflect new teaching methods.
Finally, the study examines the allegations first touched on in the second edition of the
state PIRGs report, namely that textbook publishers charge more for books sold domestically
than for those sold overseas. Rather than completely vilifying the textbook publishers, as the
"Ripoff 101" reports do, the GAO report states that "college textbook prices in the United States
may exceed prices in other countries because textbook publishers assign prices that reflect the
market conditions found in each country" (p. 21), a practice that has become more transparent
with the rise of e-commerce. The report further states that "the practice of differential pricing is
not exclusive to textbook publishing and occurs both within and outside the United States" (p.
23), thus dismissing it as a concern except in the context of public awareness of the disparity.
However, the report does note that the publishers interviewed were concerned with the
possibility of large-scale reimportation of textbooks from other countries, and had worked to
strengthen contracts with foreign distributors to prevent this from occurring (p. 25). This does
not, however, prevent students from purchasing single copies of textbooks from overseas.
The tone of the GAO report is very impartial, unlike that of the state PIRGs reports. The
study notes that prices for tuition have risen even more than those of textbooks in the same time
period. The bundling practice is approached as the road of progress, ultimately able to increase
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the quality of an American education. It also notes that the cost of textbooks can be prohibitive in
2-year institutions where they represent three-fourths of the cost of tuition, which
disproportionately affects the affordability of education for a certain segment of the population.
The theme of lack of choice for students is prevalent throughout the report. However, because
this report serves as an impartial study, the GAO offers no suggestions for the remediation of the
problem. The report leaves it to campus, state and federal policymakers to approach the issue as
they see fit after being presented with the facts of the matter.
After this report was released, media coverage of the issue exploded, which led to
heightened public awareness. Some specific examples of campus and state policy moves in
response are covered in the Section III of this paper. The next major report released on the
subject was the Advisory Committee on Student Financial Assistance.
A što se tiče odnosa oligopola i kartela, pa wikipedija kaže i:
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Oligopolistic competition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition) can give rise to a wide range of different outcomes. In some situations, the firms may employ restrictive trade practices (collusion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collusion), market sharing etc.) to raise prices and restrict production in much the same way as a monopoly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly). Where there is a formal agreement for such collusion, this is known as a cartel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel). A primary example of such a cartel is OPEC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC) which has a profound influence on the international price of oil.
Firms often collude in an attempt to stabilize unstable markets, so as to reduce the risks inherent in these markets for investment and product development.[citation needed] There are legal restrictions on such collusion in most countries. There does not have to be a formal agreement for collusion to take place (although for the act to be illegal there must be actual communication between companies)–for example, in some industries there may be an acknowledged market leader which informally sets prices to which other producers respond, known as price leadership (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_leadership).
In other situations, competition between sellers in an oligopoly can be fierce, with relatively low prices and high production. This could lead to an efficient outcome approaching perfect competition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_competition). The competition in an oligopoly can be greater when there are more firms in an industry than if, for example, the firms were only regionally based and did not compete directly with each other.
Thus the welfare (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_Economics) analysis of oligopolies is sensitive to the parameter values used to define the market's structure. In particular, the level of dead weight loss (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_weight_loss) is hard to measure. The study of product differentiation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_differentiation) indicates that oligopolies might also create excessive levels of differentiation in order to stifle competition.
Jel' si ti razumeo šta u tvojim linkovima piše? Upravo ono šta pokušavam da ti pojasnim. NBC, CBS, ABC i Fox su "oligopolija" sa procentom svog učešća na tržištu masvnih medija, ali će se poklati oko jednog procenta gledanosti. A kretanje cena školovanja, literature, bundlinga i redovnih godišnjih "dorađenih" izdanja u SAD od 1986. do 2007. su posledica reganovštine.
Dakle, kartelsko ponašanje!!!!
Otprilike. Mada u SAD "kartelsko" vide kao kriminalno udruživanje narko bosova. Trust je više prekršajno. Ako hoćeš, mogu da ti potražim jedan fini dijagram raspodele oligopolije masovnih medija u SAD. Imam negde šemu.
Ma ne moraš, to je već predaleko od teme koju ovde koliko-toliko diskutujemo. Da se udžbenici štampaju svake godine sa minimalnim izmenama a da dilovi sa školama pomažu da se studentima praktično onemogući korišćenje starih. To svakako nije poštovanje slobodnog tržišta bla bla bla.
Ti si mislio da se to dešava samo kod nas? Evo, ja imam Kotlerove Principles of Marketing trinaesto izdanje! (2010). Sad ih ima sigurno 15. A koštao nas je skoro 200$. "Izmenjeno i dopunjeno", a ne možeš ni da nađeš šta je to. "If you purchased this book within the United States or Canada you should be aware that it has been wrongfully imported without approval of the Publisher or th Autor." Šta god to značilo.
Ma, nisam ja ništa mislio, ne preterujmo, samo sam ukazao da sad ljudi koji imaju povlašćen položaj na tržištu posežu za potencijalno apsurdnim sudskim odlukama da taj položaj cementiraju i da je to u neskladu sa zdravim razumom, idejom nekog slobodnog tržišta itd.
Elem, druga tema: Bajden i Rajan su sinoć (tj. do malopre) debatovali i evo kratkog sižea:
Biden, the anti-Obama, brings exasperation to debate with Ryan (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/biden-anti-obama-brings-exasperation-debate-ryan-024159255--election.html)
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On Thursday night, vice president Joe Biden and congressman Paul Ryan sat at a semi-circular piece of corporate office furniture to debate various aspects of foreign and domestic policy. With moderator Martha Raddatz at the helm, the 90-minute conversation between the two contenders began fairly civilly, and grew increasingly snippy.
Those hoping for a few true wildman outbursts or gaffes from the easily lampooned Biden were disappointed. The vice president, however, grinning hugely, shaking his head and even giggling during some of his opponent's answers, did seem exasperated with the much younger congressman for most of the debate.
Answering the moderator's first question, about the recent terrorist attack on the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, Biden, a former chairperson of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, promised that the Obama administration would "find and bring justice to the men" responsible for the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens and the three other Americans killed during the attack.
Ryan came back with the claim that the president's foreign policy is "making us less safe."
Shortly after, Biden had his first bona fide 'Biden moment': "With all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey," he said. (Moments later "malarkey" and "malarky" were trending on Twitter.)
As the candidates segued to domestic issues, Biden went after the Romney/Ryan ticket for being on the side of fat cats. "They continue to put the interest of millionaires and billionaires ... ahead of the military and middle class," Biden said.
In response—and attempting to defend Romney's controversial 47 percent remark—Ryan said (to laughter), "I think the vice president knows, sometimes the words don't always come out of your mouth the way you want."
"But I always say what I mean," Biden retorted with a grin.
The vice president did seem to say what he meant for much of the debate, even looking straight at the camera and addressing viewers directly.
On Medicare, Biden asked: "Folks, all you seniors out there, have you been denied choices?" It was a daytime television commercial moment fit for a consummate salesman: there should have been an 800 number for people to dial so Biden could chat with them.
Raddatz also questioned the candidates about their tickets' respective tax plans. Biden pointed his pointer finger at Raddatz and proclaimed for the second time during the debate that Romney and Ryan were intending "to [hold] the middle class hostage."
Ryan, sounding like a wonky accountant running numbers and bobbing his head side to side a bit like a turtle, responded that there aren't enough rich people to pay for the Obama administration's spending. Then, taking a cue from Biden, he addressed the camera directly: "Watch out middle class, the tax bill is coming to you."
(At 9:53 p.m. ET, "Joe Biden's teeth" was also trending on Twitter.)
Ryan also claimed that bipartisanship could make his ticket's vague proposed tax plan work.
"Different than this administration, we actually want to have big, bipartisan agreements," Ryan said, suggesting cooperation could lead to budget cuts that would pay for a 20 percent tax cut across the board for Americans. "Look at what Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan did. They worked out of a framework."
"The only way you can find $5 trillion in deductions is to cut deductions for the middle class," Biden said. Otherwise, it's "not mathematically possible."
"It is mathematically possible," Ryan responded. "Jack Kennedy lowered taxes and raised revenue."
This provoked the only line that could possibly count as the debate's real zinger.
"Oh, now you're Jack Kennedy," Biden said, evoking visions of the 1988 vice-presidential debate between Lloyd Bentsen and Dan Quayle. ("Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine," Bentsen had said. "Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy.")
During that same exchange, the biggest zinger of the night was almost Raddatz's. She asked Ryan directly for details on the tax cuts: "Do you actually have the specifics, or are you still working on it?"
Closing out, Raddatz moved back to foreign policy, covering Afghanistan, and then asked the two Catholic candidates how their faith impacts their views on abortion.
Then, with the debate having grown downright testy, Raddatz said, "Let me calm down things here just for a minute," and asked her last question: "If you were elected, what would you both give to this country as a man, and human being, that no one else could?"
Ryan suggested his capacity to solve problems, but then rattled off statistics about jobs and the economy instead of sticking with the question.
Biden, casual, went broad: "Let me tell ya," he said. "My record stands for itself. Whatever I say, I do. I treat Main Street and Wall Street the same. You grow this country from the middle out, not the top down."
In his closing statement, Biden went again for the emotional connection to viewers that he reached for much of the evening. "You probably detected my frustration with [Ryan and Romney's] attitude toward the American people," he said. "All [the American people] are looking for is an even shot. The president and I are not going to rest until they have a clear shot and peace of mind and can say to their family, 'It's gonna be OK.'"
Ryan, in closing, said: "Wouldn't it be nice to have a job creator in the White House?" he asked. "The choice is clear, and the choice rests with you, and we ask you for your vote."
Znam da te više ne zanima, ali, pošto smo se potrudili. Možda će te zanimati kako su pre pet godina bili raspodeljenji udeli masovnih medija, (ali i piva) na tržištu SAD. Za slaninicu nisam imao.
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Bogami, sa automobilima je situacija alarmantna :lol: Dženeral Motors dakle gazi američke potrošače željeznom čizmom. Ali čak ni oni ne pokušavaju da sudski spreče konkurenciju da se nadmeće. Bar ne da ja znam, naravno.
Да ли би ми неко објаснио како је то постојао стопостотни монопол у америчкој аутоиндустрији?
Џенерал моторс је један од три велика играча, далеко је од монополисте. Тако је било пре пет година, тако је и сад.
Ko govori o Dženeral Motorsu? Reč je o automobilima, a oni nemaju konkurenciju na američkom tržištu ličnog prevoza. Trotineti su totalna margina.
Monopol automobilske industrije i naftne industrije, sprečio je izgradnju odgovarajućih metroa, recimo u LA.
Quote from: scallop on 12-10-2012, 16:03:00
Ko govori o Dženeral Motorsu? Reč je o automobilima, a oni nemaju konkurenciju na američkom tržištu ličnog prevoza. Trotineti su totalna margina.
Мехо уноси забуну. :lol:
Pa i ja sam se šalio, mislim, DžM mi je pao na pamet jer su jedina američka firma za koju znam da danas proizvodi automobile. A stopostotni monopol bi značio da su oni ta firma. Al ko zna šta ovaj grafikon zaista znači xrotaeye
Oligopolija govori o razuđenosti, višecentričnosti. Odnosno, na neki način ilustruje i specijalizaciju proizvodnje. Što je ona složenija ima manje konkurenata na tržištu i konkurenti lakše nalaze zajednički jezik kako da tu prednost iskoriste (zloupotrebe). Žao mi je što grafikon nije jasniji.
Grafikon je previše pojednostavljen. Bilo bi zanimljivo videti još mnogo toga na jednom takvom grafikonu.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-10-2012, 17:00:11
Pa i ja sam se šalio, mislim, DžM mi je pao na pamet jer su jedina američka firma za koju znam da danas proizvodi automobile.
Сигурно знаш за "Форд" и "Крајслер". То је "велика тројка".
Jesu, ali pošto ne pratim scenu, pomislio sam da su oni možda u nekom momentu kupljeni od strane Japanaca ili Nijemaca ili Korejaca or sumtin i da je DžM jedini ostao pravi američki...
Nego, Amerika na ivici propasti: student greškom dobio putem babovog čeka za penziju 690 milijuna dolara ali je bio pošten pa vratio državi:
Student returns check for a half-billion dollars (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/student-returns-half-billion-dollar-check-213623198.html)
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Let's face it: We could all imagine what to do with a little extra cash. But when Allen Smith received his monthly Veterans Affairs dependency check, it contained an unimaginable amount. Instead of the usual $650, it was made out for a half-billion dollars. Billion.
The 22-year-old receives a dependency check from the Department of the Treasury to help with college expenses, because his father served in the U.S. Air Force. It's just usually not that much.
Still, that's a lot of textbooks.
Smith's mother, Patricia Attwood Smith, told WTVM (http://www.wtvm.com/story/19750176/2012/10/05/columbus-man-gets-half-a-billion-dollar-check-by-mistake?hpt=us_bn8), "He immediately, immediately went to the VA officer at Fort Benning ... (and) turned in the check." She added she is proud of her son and knows his father is smiling down on him.
So where does the $690,000,000 actually belong? That remains a mystery.
Smith was told the check could have been a misprint or the office could have been hacked. The VA inspector general assured Attwood Smith that the check will get back to where it belongs.
http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2012&mm=10&dd=13&nav_category=78&nav_id=651363 (http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2012&mm=10&dd=13&nav_category=78&nav_id=651363)
Pucano na Obamin štab u Denveru
Izvor: Beta
Los Anđeles -- Nepoznate osobe su pucale na predizborni štab američkog predsednika Baraka Obame u Denveru, saopštila je danas lokalna policija.
U trenutku incidenta bilo je ljudi u prostorijama, a kako se veruje nepoznati napadači su iz automobila pucali u pravcu zgrade, rekla je portparolka policije u Denveru Rakel Lopes.
Na sajtu lista Denver vestvord postavljena je fotografija sa mesta incidenta na kojoj se vidi slomljeno staklo na prozorima kancelarija.
Istraga u vezi sa pucnjavom je u toku.
Predsednički izbori u SAD održaće se 6. novembra.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/14/opinion/sunday/the-self-destruction-of-the-1-percent.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/14/opinion/sunday/the-self-destruction-of-the-1-percent.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0)
Serija tuzbi protiv dobrih dela se nastavlja :-x
Paramedic punished for giving blanket to elderly fire survivor wearing only underpants
A Detroit paramedic is in hot water for what seems to have been an act of kindness - giving a blanket to an elderly man who was cold. Two weeks ago, a house caught fire, and the man who lived there was taken outside wearing only his underwear.
Paramedic Jeff Gaglio gave him a blanket. Then, Gaglio was informed that the department was bringing him up on charges for his action.
Jerald James, chief of the Emergency Medical Service (EMS), who is responsible for Gaglio's punishment, said in defence of the charges, "We can't have an employee who feels that they have a right to give away state property without getting prior approval." In fact, his department and the city of Detroit are strapped for cash.
However, it has also been revealed that the department did not pay for the blanket. The one that Gaglio gave away had been donated. Gaglio explained his frustration: "I'm being punished for giving a man a blanket. Something that would seem like a common everyday courtesy. Something that any man or woman would do in the city of Detroit."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/paramedic-punished-giving-blanket-cold-elderly-fire-survivor-174434660.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/paramedic-punished-giving-blanket-cold-elderly-fire-survivor-174434660.html)
Stvarno bizar. Mislim, čak i da je tako, možda su mogli da se lepo dogovore među kolegama da kupe ćebe da se nadoknadi ovo i svi zadovoljni... Ludilo.
Ameri će stvarno propadnu :x
Desenzitacija.
More assertive Obama trades barbs with Romney, targets wealth issues (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/more-assertive-obama-argues-romney-over-jobs-energy-024727253--election.html)
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A much more aggressive President Barack Obama showed up to the second presidential debate Tuesday, which at times devolved into angry crosstalk with Republican rival Mitt Romney.
President Obama was under pressure to perform dramatically better at this debate—held at Hofstra University in Long Island, N.Y.—than the one held two weeks ago. Gov. Romney's energetic performance at that first debate quickly boosted him in the polls, with some recent measures showing he and the president in a virtual tie among likely voters.
Romney kept up his Denver demeanor, attacking Obama on his jobs record, failure to pass immigration reform, policies in the Middle East, and other issues. But this time, instead of simply repeating portions of his stump speech, Obama was ready with specific retorts and counter-attacks. The president frequently accused Romney of twisting facts, occasionally interrupting him as he spoke.
At one point, the debate almost became a shouting match over whether President Obama had cut back oil extraction from public lands. Obama repeatedly said Romney was lying about his claim that oil production was down, pointedly saying, "Not true, Governor Romney." (Politifact ranked a similar claim by a conservative super PAC "half true." (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/apr/13/crossroads-gps/crossroads-gps-ad-oil-production-obama/)) Feeling the heat, moderator Candy Crowley took the candidates to another topic.
The 90-minute town hall-style debate got personal at times. Romney took a detour on an answer on immigration reform to address Obama campaign claims that his personal fortune is invested in China and shielded from taxes. "Mr. President, have you looked at your pension?" he asked, implying the president is also unaware of the nature of his investments. "You know, I don't look at my pension," Obama retorted, adding, "It's not as big as yours so it doesn't take as long."
Obama returned more than once to the topic of Romney's wealth, saying Romney sees nothing unfair about millionaires paying the same tax rate as a nurse or other middle-class worker. Later in the debate, Romney criticized Obama for attending political events so soon after the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, was killed, and also said Obama's campaign unfairly painted him as a villain. Obama closed the debate by mentioning Romney's leaked comments that half the country is dependent on government.
Both candidates appeared comfortable with the more intimate town hall-style, during which an audience of 80 undecided voters, handpicked by polling organization Gallup, watched and asked questions. Audience members picked by Crowley asked the candidates about immigration reform, jobs, gun control, the gender pay gap, and other issues. In answer to a question about the economy from college student Jeremy Epstein, Romney said if elected he could guarantee Epstein would find employment when he graduates in 2014 because of his economic policies. "I'm going to make sure you get a job," Romney said. Obama answered a question about the pay gap with a personal story about his mother's struggle to make ends meet while raising two children on her own.
By the end of the debate, Romney spoke for nearly 41 minutes, Obama a little over 44 minutes.
The final debate of the election is Monday in Boca Raton, Florida, and will focus on foreign policy.
Obama wins the second debate. Too bad it's not the one that mattered. (http://news.yahoo.com/obama-wins-the-second-debate--too-bad-it%E2%80%99s-not-the-one-that-mattered-1568495.html)
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When the evening began, one observation dominated the conversation: "If President Barack Obama has another debate like the last one, the election's over."
When the evening ended, I was struck by a different thought: If Obama had performed this way at the first debate, the election would have been over.
In every debate, whatever the format, whatever the questions, there is one and only one way to identify the winner: Who commands the room? Who drives the narrative? Who is in charge? More often than not on Tuesday night, I think, Obama had the better of it.
From a substantive view, there was one argument that the president was seeking to make over and over: Don't let Mitt Romney fool you; he's a rich guy out to protect the interests of the well-off, not the middle-class.
That's why he referenced not just Romney's tax plan, but Romney's taxes, the fact that the Republican presidential nominee paid a lower rate on his millions than ordinary working-class folks do on theirs, the fact that Romney has invested heavily in China. And when Romney went at Obama with almost the exact same argument he used so devastatingly against Newt Gingrich—"have you checked your pension?"—Obama came back with, "I haven't looked at my pension; it's not as big as yours. (For super-wonks it harked back to a 1982 debate between Mario Cuomo and the super-wealthy Lew Lehrman, when Cuomo reached over, grabbed Lehrman's hand, and said, "Nice watch, Lou!")
As a tactical matter, Obama executed one of the toughest of maneuvers: the counterpunch. When Romney attacked Obama for hindering the use of coal, the President recalled an appearance of Romney as governor of Massachusetts, where he vowed to shut down a coal-fired power plant. (The fact that Romney was probably right about the danger will be the subject of earnest substantive post-debate analyses that have no place here!)
And in talking about an area where the Obama administration has clear vulnerabilities—the attack on the American consulate in Libya—Obama summoned the inherent high ground of the presidency to condemn the "politicization" of the attack.
To be clear: There was nothing particularly off about Romney. He had several strong moments, most especially contrasting what Obama said he would do in 2008 with what in fact had happened over the past four years. This was, and is, the single most powerful argument against returning Obama to the White House, and Romney deployed it effectively.
It's just that Obama found what he could not find in Denver—a coherent thread to make the case that he understands the middle-class in a way Romney does not. For those Democratic partisans wondering where "the 47 percent" argument was, Obama was saving it for the close which—because of a pre-debate coin flip—Romney could not answer. In this sense, it was like Reagan's famous "are you better off?" question from 1980.
In a larger sense, however, Obama's success is unlikely to have anything like the impact of that 1980 debate, nor will it likely alter the terrain of the campaign as the first debate of 2012 did. Had the Obama of this debate showed up two weeks ago, he might well have ended Romney's effort to present himself as a credible alternative to the president.
That opportunity vanished that night. While it's clear that Obama's performance will revive the enthusiasm of his supporters, it seems unlikely that it will cause those impressed by Romney to reconsider. Like they say in show business, timing is everything.
Sou biznis!
Ja odavno pricam da je Ameriken prezident institucija samo za sou biznis i masovnu hipnozu.
Mislim i da nije bitno k oce biti prezident, amerika ima dve trase na jednom putu, malo se voze jednom ,malo drugom, tek tolko da misle da su demokratski izabrali vodju i da im to ukazuje da imaju frid'm!
a ustvari xrofl
Ali barem rat protiv terora daje rezultate:
Man held in plot to attack Federal Reserve in NYC (http://news.yahoo.com/man-held-plot-attack-federal-nyc-suspect-tried-035024157.html)
QuoteA Bangladeshi man who came to the United States to wage jihad was arrested in an elaborate FBI sting on Wednesday after attempting to blow up a fake car bomb outside the Federal Reserve building in Manhattan, authorities said. Before trying to carry out the alleged terrorism plot, Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis went to a warehouse to help assemble a 1,000-pound bomb using inert material, according to a criminal complaint. He also asked an undercover agent to videotape him saying, "We will not stop until we attain victory or martyrdom," the complaint said.
Agents grabbed the 21-year-old Nafis — armed with a cellphone he believed was rigged as a detonator — after he made several attempts to blow up the bomb inside a vehicle parked next to the Federal Reserve, the complaint said.
Authorities emphasized that the plot never posed an actual risk. However, they claimed the case demonstrated the value of using sting operations to neutralize young extremists eager to harm Americans.
"Attempting to destroy a landmark building and kill or maim untold numbers of innocent bystanders is about as serious as the imagination can conjure," said Mary Galligan, acting head of the FBI's New York office. "The defendant faces appropriately severe consequences."
Nafis appeared in federal court in Brooklyn to face charges of attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction and attempting to provide material support to al-Qaida. Wearing a brown T-shirt and black jeans, he was ordered held without bail and did not enter a plea. His defence attorney had no comment outside court.
The defendant had sought assurances from an undercover agent posing as an al-Qaida contact that the terrorist group would support the operation.
"The thing that I want to do, ask you about, is that, the thing I'm doing, it's under al-Qaida?" he was recorded saying during a meeting in bugged hotel room in Queens, according to the complaint.
In a September meeting in the same hotel room, Nafis "confirmed he was ready to kill himself during the course of the attack, but indicated he wanted to return to Bangladesh to see his family one last time to set his affairs in order," the complaint said.
But there was no allegation that Nafis actually received training or direction from the terrorist group.
Prosecutors say Nafis travelled to the U.S. on a student visa in January to carry out an attack. In July, he contacted a confidential informant, telling him he wanted to form a terror cell, the criminal complaint said.
In further conversations, authorities said Nafis proposed several spots for his attack, including the New York Stock Exchange — and that in a written letter taking responsibility for the Federal Reserve job he was about to carry out, he said he wanted to "destroy America." Other communications took place through Facebook, the complaint said.
A Twitter account with the suspect's name and photo had six followers and two messages and was linked to a Facebook page that had been taken down.
Nafis attended Southeast Missouri State University during the spring semester, which ran from January to May, university spokeswoman Ann Hayes told The Associated Press. He was pursuing a bachelor's degree in cybersecurity.
Hayes said Nafis requested a transfer of his records in July and the university complied, though she couldn't say where the records were transferred.
On Wednesday, federal officials were at the New York home where Nafis was staying, a red brick building in the Jamaica neighbourhood of Queens. Owner Rafiqul Islam said Nafis was staying with his second-floor tenants, and he was told he was related to the family. The tenants didn't answer their door and their apartment was dark.
Islam said Nafis had only lived there about a month or so.
"I didn't notice anything, he spoke to me very quietly," he said. "He said he was going to be studying here."
Neighbour Jose Santos, 19, said he would see Nafis at the same grocery store.
"He seemed like a regular nice guy to me," Santos said. "I'm just shocked right now to see that he tried to plant a 1,000-pound bomb. That's crazy."
Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said the case is one more reminder that New York remains a target:
"New York continues to be very much in the mind frame of terrorism. This individual came here with the express purpose of committing a terrorist attack; he was motivated by al-Qaida. We see this threat as being with us for a long time to come."
Kelly said security is always a precaution and there are about a thousand officers in the counterterrorism division. He didn't specify if any additional measures were being taken.
The bank, located at 33 Liberty St., is one of 12 branches around the country that, along with the Board of Governors in Washington, make up the Federal Reserve System that serves as the central bank of the United States. It sets interest rates.
The Federal Reserve is one of the most fortified buildings in the city, smack in the middle of a massive security effort headed by the New York Police Department where a network of thousands of private and police cameras watch for suspicious activity.
The department uses sophisticated programs that can search for suspicious activity, like an object in one place for a long time, at the building modeled after London's "ring of steel." The analytic software also is designed to take video and catalogue it according to movements, shapes and colours, so officers can set parameters to search the system for, say, a suspicious van.
The Fed is also home to the world's largest accumulation of gold, according to the bank's website. Dozens of governments and central banks store a portion of their gold reserves in high-security vaults deep beneath the building. In recent years, it held 216 million troy ounces of gold, or more than a fifth of all global monetary gold reserves, making it a bigger bullion depository than Fort Knox.
The federal case was the latest where a terrorism plot against the city turned out to be a sting operation.
Four men were convicted in 2009 in a plot to bomb synagogues and shoot down military planes with missiles - a case that began after an FBI informant was assigned to infiltrate a mosque in Newburgh, about 70 miles north of New York City. The federal judge hearing the case said she was not proud of the government's role in nurturing the plot.
In 2004, a Pakistani immigrant was arrested and convicted for a scheme to blow up the subway station at Herald Square in Midtown. His lawyers argued that their client had been set up by a police informant who showed him pictures of Iraq abuse to get him involved in an attack against civilians.
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Takođe, ko je kriv za američke žrtve u Libiji? Oh, pa Britanci!!!!!!!
For Benghazi diplomatic security, U.S. relied on small British firm (http://news.yahoo.com/benghazi-diplomatic-security-u-relied-small-british-firm-014650742.html)
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WASHINGTON/BENGHAZI, Libya (Reuters) - The State Department's decision to hire Blue Mountain Group to guard the ill-fated U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, entrusted security tasks to a little-known British company instead of the large firms it usually uses in overseas danger zones.
The contract was largely based on expediency, U.S. officials have said, since no one knew how long the temporary mission would remain in the Libyan city. The cradle of last year's uprising that ended Muammar Gaddafi's 42-year rule, Benghazi has been plagued by rising violence in recent months.
Security practices at the diplomatic compound, where Blue Mountain guards patrolled with flashlights and batons instead of guns, have come under U.S. government scrutiny in the wake of the September 11 attack in Benghazi that killed U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.
Federal contract data shows that the Benghazi security contract, worth up to $783,284, was listed as a "miscellaneous" award, not as part of the large master State Department contract that covers protection for overseas embassies.
"Blue Mountain was virtually unknown to the circles that studied private security contractors working for the United States, before the events in Benghazi," said Charles Tiefer, a commissioner at the Commission on Wartime Contracting, which studied U.S. contracting in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
Several British government sources said that they were unfamiliar with Blue Mountain, which is based in Wales. They said British authorities used a different contractor for security protection in Libya.
Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at the Stratfor consulting firm and a former U.S. diplomatic security agent, said he did not know Blue Mountain, but it likely got State Department work because it was already working in Libya.
"They may have been the path of least resistance," he said.
Blue Mountain was able to work in Libya because it forged a business alliance with a local security firm, as required by Libyan regulations.
Eric Nordstrom, former regional security officer for the U.S. Embassy in Libya, testified at a congressional hearing last week that contracting out for security in the eastern Libyan city "was largely based on our concern of how long we would be in Benghazi. We were concerned that if we retained or brought on board full-time employees we would have to then find a position for them if that post ever went away."
In describing the challenges of hiring private security at Benghazi, he added: "It's my understanding that there was a very high turnover with those people."
GUARDS OF BENGHAZI
Blue Mountain hired about 20 Libyan men - including some who say they had minimal training - to screen visitors and help patrol the mission at Benghazi, according to Reuters interviews.
Some of the guards sustained injuries and said they were ill-prepared to protect themselves or others when heavily armed militants last month stormed the rented villa that was serving as the mission.
They also described being hired by Blue Mountain after a casual recruiting and screening process.
State Department security officials had their own concerns about some of the guards at the mission months before the recent attack, according to emails obtained by Reuters this week. One guard who had been recently fired and another on the company's payroll were suspected of throwing a homemade bomb into the U.S. compound in April. They were questioned but not charged.
The State Department has declined to comment on the company other than confirming it was the contractor in Benghazi. Blue Mountain did not respond to numerous emails and phone calls, and a person answering the phone at its office in Carmarthen, Wales, said the company would not discuss the issue.
Previously known as Pilgrim Elite, Blue Mountain says on its website that it offers security services and professional training and has operated in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Pakistan.
The website once listed General Motors as a client, and a GM spokeswoman in Detroit told Reuters that Blue Mountain's work for the company was "on a very limited basis and mostly in the UK."
A Blue Mountain recruiter posted a notice on a security website in 2011 seeking employees with visas to work in Libya.
The State Department contract for "local guard" services in Benghazi took effect in March 2012. Several of Blue Mountain's Libyan employees told Reuters that they had no prior security training or experience.
"I was never a revolutionary or a fighter, I have never picked up a weapon during the war or after it," said Abdelaziz al-Majbiri, 28, who was shot in the legs during the September 11 assault.
The Libyan commander in charge of the local guards at the mission was a former English teacher who said he heard about Blue Mountain from a neighbor. "I don't have a background in security, I've never held a gun in my life," he said, speaking on condition of anonymity out of fear for his safety.
When hired, the commander said he was told "you have great English and get along with everyone and are punctual; we want you to be a guard commander."
The unarmed guards were told to sound the alarm over the radio and then run for cover if there was an attack, a Libyan who acted as a supervisor for the Blue Mountain local guard team at the mission said during an interview with Reuters.
He also displayed a medal embossed with "Department of State" and a horseman carrying Libyan and U.S. flags. "They thanked us for our help and also gave us this medal as an appreciation," he said.
Despite their inexperience, the Blue Mountain guards said they feared the Americans were not concerned enough about security.
"We used to tell the Americans who spoke to us on many occasions that we needed more support in security, because it felt thin on the ground. But they didn't seem to be so worried, and (were) confident that no one will dare to come close to the consulate," one guard said.
'DOWN IN THE WEEDS'
Tiefer, who is also a government contracting law professor at the University of Baltimore, said the Benghazi contract paled in comparison to other State Department security awards.
"This is down in the weeds," he said in a telephone interview.
Most State Department work goes to eight large private security firms with vast experience.
In the late summer of 2011, after Libyan rebels took control of Tripoli, Blue Mountain guards were seen working security at the Corinthia Hotel and its sister Palm City residential compound in the Libyan capital.
A United Press International report indicated that Blue Mountain and its local partner, Eclipse, also were competing for contracts guarding oil fields.
Blue Mountain and Eclipse parted ways in the spring over problems with Tripoli contracts, several sources familiar with the matter said.
The severed relationship may have prevented Blue Mountain from getting additional work in Libya, which required the local affiliation.
On a social network website earlier this year, a Blue Mountain official described the firm as "one of the few companies certified and legally allowed to work in Libya."
Blue Mountain Chief Executive Officer Nigel Thomas, a former British special forces member, did not respond to emails or phone calls.
NO EASY TASK
Setting up security in Libya after the anti-Gaddafi revolution was not easy, documents show.
In a July 9 memo approved by the late ambassador Stevens, regional security officer Nordstrom said his office hoped to shore up defenses at U.S. compounds in Libya and would consider partial arming of some local guard supervisors, without being more specific.
But Nordstrom described difficulties getting local gun permits, noting it could take up to 60 days for "selection, training, equipping, policy approvals and deployment" of armed guards.
(Hadeel Al Shalchi reported from Benghazi; Additional reporting by Marie-Louise Gumuchian in Tripoli, Mark Hosenball and Lucy Shackelford; Editing by Marilyn W. Thompson and Paul Simao)
Joj, mrzlo me da citam , posto sam siguran da nazalost :( nikad Ameri i Briti nece zaratiti i pustiti ostale da disu...
I posle treće debate, još ne znamo ko će da pobedi :lol:
Obama calls Romney 'all over the map' in foreign policy debate (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-presses-national-security-debate-advantage-calls-romney-024036925--election.html)
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President Barack Obama portrayed rival Gov. Mitt Romney as "all over the map" and inexperienced on key national security issues in the third and final debate of the presidential election Monday night in Boca Raton, Fla. Each candidate attempted to paint the other as an untrustworthy commander in chief, but Romney's performance was less aggressive than Obama's, and the governor was often on defense in the 90-minute exchange.
"I know you haven't been in a position to actually execute foreign policy—but every time you've offered an opinion, you've been wrong," Obama said, referencing Romney's initial support for the Iraq war.
The president in general was harshly critical of Romney, and landed a few well-placed zingers. "The Cold War's been over for 20 years," he said in response to Romney's comment from several months ago that Russia is America's primary geopolitical foe.
He later said, "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets," in response to Romney's criticism that America has fewer Navy ships than in the past. "We have these things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them. We have these ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines," the president added, a touch of mockery entering his voice.
Romney frequently pivoted to domestic issues and the economy, including the high number of Americans in poverty, his education record in Massachusetts, and his plans for reducing the deficit and creating jobs.
On foreign policy, Romney did not criticize how Obama handled the murder of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya, a topic he brought up in last week's town hall-style debate. Instead, Romney said the Middle East is in "tumult" and "chaos," and suggested Obama's strategy of killing Al Qaeda leaders in drone strikes is not enough to bring stability to the region.
"We can't kill our way out of this mess," Romney said. "We're going to have to put in place a very comprehensive and robust strategy to help the ... world of Islam and other parts of the world reject this radical violent extremism, which certainly [is] not on the run."
Romney also slammed Obama for what he called his "apology tour" in the Middle East, which he said projected weakness abroad. "The president began what I've called an apology tour of going to nations in the Middle East and criticizing America. I think they looked at that and saw weakness," Romney said. Obama called this a "whopper" and criticized Romney for fundraising on his trip to Israel. "When I went to Israel as a candidate, I didn't take donors," Obama said. "I didn't attend fundraisers. I went to Yad Vashem, the Holocaust museum there, to remind myself of the nature of evil and why our bond with Israel will be unbreakable."
Despite the crossfire, the candidates seemed to agree on many key foreign-policy issues, including the use of drone strikes to kill people believed to be terrorists, harsh sanctions on Iran (though Romney said the sanctions should be even stricter), and a strategy of avoiding military involvement in Syria.
After Romney seemed to avoid specifics on how he would handle Syria's civil war differently from Obama, the president retorted: "What you've just heard Gov. Romney say is that he doesn't have different ideas."
Obama and Romney are statistically tied among voters in the most recent polls, with Romney able to catch up with the president on the strength of his performance in the first debate in Denver. On foreign policy in particular, Obama's lead over Romney, in the double digits only a few months ago, has shrunk to just four points, according to a recent Pew poll (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AnYirMy6BG43TyPYW.yiHy3Nt.d_;_ylu=X3oDMTFka3BkYnE0BG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM1aWhycjRqBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDYTBiNzg1NjQtY2ZhOS0zNjc0LTgxMGMtMjk3MGVmZDhjNDcwBHBzdGNhdANwb2xpdGljc3x0aGV0aWNrZXQEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=13gjpi3c2/EXP=1352190342/**http%3A//www.people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/10-18-12%2520Foreign%2520Policy%2520release.pdf).
Americans considered President Obama the loser in the first debate in Denver by historic margins, and Romney's poll numbers soared after his strong performance there. When the candidates met for a rematch at Hofstra University on Long Island last week, a much more assertive Obama showed up, and snap polls showed he was considered a narrow winner of the night.
It remains to be seen if this debate will provide a "bounce" for either candidate in the last few weeks of the campaign. Voters overwhelmingly say the economy and jobs are the most important issues for them in this election.
In his final debate with Obama, Romney played it safe. Was that what voters wanted? (http://news.yahoo.com/in-his-final-debate-with-obama-romney-played-it-safe-was-that-what-voters-wanted-10221258.html)
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There were times during this last debate when I almost thought I could hear the words of Mitt Romney's advisers playing in his head:
"Look, big guy, you're on track to win this thing. What they want to see tonight is a calm, confident leader, unthreatening, informed, unruffled. So don't get up in Obama's grill. Bring the conversation back to the economy when you can, and be the reasonable, credible Commander-in-Chief the voters want."
That was clearly the strategy Romney executed Monday night. He was at pains to agree with President Barack Obama on matters ranging from the deployment of drones to standing with Israel in the face of an attack. He drew attention to Obama's sharp criticisms by saying "attacking me is not an agenda"—a line he repeated later. He stepped back from a frontal assault on the administration's confusion over Libya, speaking more broadly about the Middle East, observing, "We can't kill our way out of this mess," and later talking about the need to promote "gender equality." (I wondered at this point whether the campaign had focused Romney's attention on the baseball and football games competing for the audience, raising the likelihood that a greater percentage of the audience might be female).
Indeed, there were moments when Romney seemed to be channeling the presence of another ex-governor whose need as a presidential candidate was to reassure.
But unlike Ronald Reagan, Mitt Romney did not need to prove that he is something other than a threat to the peace.
Rather, his challenge was to stand—or sit—face to face with the incumbent president and demonstrate that he could credibly argue matters of state, in the face of a debate foe determined to thrust and spar at every opportunity. Without question, Obama came into this last debate knowing that his presidency is hanging by a thread, in large measure due to his remarkably weak performance in the first debate. There was no opportunity he let pass. At one point, he pivoted from the killing of Bin Laden to a conversation he had with a girl whose father had died on Sept. 11, 2001. (I could not help but wonder what the people who charged George W. Bush with politicizing Sept. 11 might have to say about that).
What happened in this debate, then, was what often happens—in sports and in politics—when someone plays not to lose. Obama clearly dominated the debate, as the instant polls suggested. But now a different question arises. What if the premise of the Romney strategy was wrong?
Indeed, what if the premise of every pre-debate assessment—that this last debate was on a matter peripheral to voters' central concerns—is wrong? What if a significant sector of the electorate is still weighing the respective claims of the contenders to be in command when a threat to American security arises?
If that's the case (and we will not know for several days), it may turn out that playing it safe may have been the least safe course of all.
Ovo sve znamo iz TV serija. Ortka pao za vutru par puta, plavi ga ispritiskali da će da robija desetljećima, on pristao da im umesto toga pomogne u ratu protiv terora. Genijalno je što se koautor ovog članka zove David Caruso :lol: :lol: :lol: :
Informant: NYPD paid me to 'bait' Muslims (http://news.yahoo.com/informant-nypd-paid-bait-muslims-134358506.html)
QuoteNEW YORK (AP) — A paid informant for the New York Police Department's intelligence unit was under orders to "bait" Muslims into saying inflammatory things as he lived a double life, snapping pictures inside mosques and collecting the names of innocent people attending study groups on Islam, he told The Associated Press.
Shamiur Rahman, a 19-year-old American of Bangladeshi descent who has now denounced his work as an informant, said police told him to embrace a strategy called "create and capture." He said it involved creating a conversation about jihad or terrorism, then capturing the response to send to the NYPD. For his work, he earned as much as $1,000 a month and goodwill from the police after a string of minor marijuana arrests.
"We need you to pretend to be one of them," Rahman recalled the police telling him. "It's street theater."
Rahman said he now believes his work as an informant against Muslims in New York was "detrimental to the Constitution." After he disclosed to friends details about his work for the police — and after he told the police that he had been contacted by the AP — he stopped receiving text messages from his NYPD handler, "Steve," and his handler's NYPD phone number was disconnected.
Rahman's account shows how the NYPD unleashed informants on Muslim neighborhoods, often without specific targets or criminal leads. Much of what Rahman said represents a tactic the NYPD has denied using.
The AP corroborated Rahman's account through arrest records and weeks of text messages between Rahman and his police handler. The AP also reviewed the photos Rahman sent to police. Friends confirmed Rahman was at certain events when he said he was there, and former NYPD officials, while not personally familiar with Rahman, said the tactics he described were used by informants.
Informants like Rahman are a central component of the NYPD's wide-ranging programs to monitor life in Muslim neighborhoods since the 2001 terrorist attacks. Police officers have eavesdropped inside Muslim businesses, trained video cameras on mosques and collected license plates of worshippers. Informants who trawl the mosques — known informally as "mosque crawlers" — tell police what the imam says at sermons and provide police lists of attendees, even when there's no evidence they committed a crime.
The programs were built with unprecedented help from the CIA.
Police recruited Rahman in late January, after his third arrest on misdemeanor drug charges, which Rahman believed would lead to serious legal consequences. An NYPD plainclothes officer approached him in a Queens jail and asked whether he wanted to turn his life around.
The next month, Rahman said, he was on the NYPD's payroll.
NYPD spokesman Paul Browne did not immediately return a message seeking comment on Tuesday. He has denied widespread NYPD spying, saying police only follow leads.
In an Oct. 15 interview with the AP, however, Rahman said he received little training and spied on "everything and anyone." He took pictures inside the many mosques he visited and eavesdropped on imams. By his own measure, he said he was very good at his job and his handler never once told him he was collecting too much, no matter whom he was spying on.
Rahman said he thought he was doing important work protecting New York City and considered himself a hero.
One of his earliest assignments was to spy on a lecture at the Muslim Student Association at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in Manhattan. The speaker was Ali Abdul Karim, the head of security at the Masjid At-Taqwa mosque in Brooklyn. The NYPD had been concerned about Karim for years and already had infiltrated the mosque, according to NYPD documents obtained by the AP.
Rahman also was instructed to monitor the student group itself, though he wasn't told to target anyone specifically. His NYPD handler, Steve, told him to take pictures of people at the events, determine who belonged to the student association and identify its leadership.
On Feb. 23, Rahman attended the event with Karim and listened, ready to catch what he called a "speaker's gaffe." The NYPD was interested in buzz words such as "jihad" and "revolution," he said. Any radical rhetoric, the NYPD told him, needed to be reported.
John Jay president Jeremy Travis said Tuesday that police had not told the school about the surveillance. He did not say whether he believed the tactic was appropriate.
"As an academic institution, we are committed to the free expression of ideas and to creating a safe learning environment for all of our students," he said in a written statement. "We are working closely with our Muslim students to affirm their rights and to reassure them that we support their organization and freedom to assemble."
Talha Shahbaz, then the vice president of the student group, met Rahman at the event. As Karim was finishing his talk on Malcolm X's legacy, Rahman told Shahbaz that he wanted to know more about the student group. They had briefly attended the same high school in Queens.
Rahman said he wanted to turn his life around and stop using drugs, and said he believed Islam could provide a purpose in life. In the following days, Rahman friended him on Facebook and the two exchanged phone numbers. Shahbaz, a Pakistani who came to the U.S. more three years ago, introduced Rahman to other Muslims.
"He was telling us how he loved Islam and it's changing him," said Asad Dandia, who also became friends with Rahman.
Secretly, Rahman was mining his new friends for details about their lives, taking pictures of them when they ate at restaurants and writing down license plates on the orders of the NYPD.
On the NYPD's instructions, he went to more events at John Jay, including when Siraj Wahhaj spoke in May. Wahhaj, 62, is a prominent but controversial New York imam who has attracted the attention of authorities for years. Prosecutors included his name on a 3 ½-page list of people they said "may be alleged as co-conspirators" in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, though he was never charged. In 2004, the NYPD placed Wahhaj on an internal terrorism watch list and noted: "Political ideology moderately radical and anti-American."
That evening at John Jay, a friend took a photograph of Wahhaj with a grinning Rahman.
Rahman said he kept an eye on the MSA and used Shahbaz and his friends to facilitate traveling to events organized by the Islamic Circle of North America and Muslim American Society. The society's annual convention in Hartford, Conn, draws a large number of Muslims and plenty of attention from the NYPD. According to NYPD documents obtained by the AP, the NYPD sent three informants there in 2008 and was keeping tabs on the group's former president.
Rahman was told to spy on the speakers and collect information. The conference was dubbed "Defending Religious Freedom." Shahbaz paid Rahman's travel expenses.
Rahman, who was born in Queens, said he never witnessed any criminal activity or saw anybody do anything wrong.
He said he sometimes intentionally misinterpreted what people had said. For example, Rahman said he would ask people what they thought about the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya, knowing the subject was inflammatory. It was easy to take statements out of context, he said. Rahman said he wanted to please his NYPD handler, whom he trusted and liked.
"I was trying to get money," Rahman said. "I was playing the game."
Rahman said police never discussed the activities of the people he was assigned to target for spying. He said police told him once, "We don't think they're doing anything wrong. We just need to be sure."
On some days, Rahman's spent hours and covered miles in his undercover role. On Sept. 16, for example, he made his way in the morning to the Al Farooq Mosque in Brooklyn, snapping photographs of an imam and the sign-up sheet for those attending a regular class on Islamic instruction. He also provided their cell phone numbers to the NYPD. That evening he spied on people at Masjid Al-Ansar, also in Brooklyn.
Text messages on his phone showed that Rahman also took pictures last month of people attending the 27th annual Muslim Day Parade in Manhattan. The parade's grand marshal was New York City Councilman Robert Jackson.
Rahman said he eventually tired of spying on his friends, noting that at times they delivered food to needy Muslim families. He said he once identified another NYPD informant spying on him. He took $200 more from the NYPD and told them he was done as an informant. He said the NYPD offered him more money, which he declined. He told friends on Facebook in early October that he had been a police spy but had quit. He also traded Facebook messages with Shahbaz, admitting he had spied on students at John Jay.
"I was an informant for the NYPD, for a little while, to investigate terrorism," he wrote on Oct. 2. He said he no longer thought it was right. Perhaps he had been hunting terrorists, he said, "but I doubt it."
Shahbaz said he forgave Rahman.
"I hated that I was using people to make money," Rahman said. "I made a mistake."
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Staff writer David Caruso in New York contributed to this story.
No, ako ih džihad ne dovede do konačne propasti, onda će joga!!!
Suit Eyed Over Yoga in Public Schools (http://news.yahoo.com/suit-eyed-over-yoga-public-schools-184622594--abc-news-topstories.html)
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Parents in a southern California community are considering legal action over the constitutionality of a form of yoga being taught to their children, which they claim is introducing religion into public schools.
Last month, half of the students attending classes in the Encinitas Union School District K-6 elementary schools in San Diego North County began taking Ashtanga (Sanskrit for "eight-limbed") yoga for 30 minutes twice per week. In January, the other half will begin the lessons.
Concerned parents have now retained constitutional first amendment attorney Dean Broyles, who says that Ashtanga yoga is a religious form of yoga, and that religious aspects have been introduced into the schools.
"The poses and positions are acknowledged by Ashtanga and Hindi yoga as forms of worship and prayers to Hindu deities," he told ABC News. "They have a spiritual and religious meaning behind them."
Broyles said that although he was at first skeptical that there were truly religious belief and practices being taught to kids, the more he investigated and spoke with parents, the more he realized it was a constitutional issue.
Broyles says that he brought up the matter at a Encinitas Union School District (EUSD) trustees meeting, along with 60 concerned parents, on October 9. Now the EUSD trustees will be reviewing whether the grant money violates the religious freedom of students and parents.
The yoga, which is being taught in all nine of the schools in the district, is being funded by a $533,000 grant from the Jois Foundation, a nonprofit that promotes Ashtanga yoga across the world. All of the instructors teaching the students are certified and trained by the Jois Foundation in Ashtanga yoga.
Broyles points to hedge-fund billionaire Paul Tudor Jones and his wife Sonia Jones, who is a known dedicated disciple of Sri Pattabhi Jois, the recently deceased master of Ashtanga yoga, as the money behind the EUSD yoga program. The district's program will be studied by the University of Virginia and University of San Diego to look at benefits of Ashtanga yoga, as outlined in a letter sent to parents by EUSD Superintendent Tim Baird.
"The study will look at the way that public school systems can impact student learning, health, positive relationships, and overall wellness through the implementation of a holistic approach to student wellness," Baird said in the letter.
Calls placed by ABC News to Superintendent Baird were not immediately returned.
The Tudor Joneses, Broyles says, were instrumental in the founding of the Jois Foundation and put up the money for the EUSD Ashtanga yoga grant. He says that parents are now not only questioning Hindu religion entering their schools, but the validity if this study being undertaken.
"We think that children are being used as guinea pigs," he said. "Following the money, you see what's going on ... It would be like a charismatic Christian organization funding classes in worship and praise, and also funding a research center at a public university that is studying whether this is an effective form of exercise."
Broyles says that it has been argued that the in-school yoga programs have been stripped of their spirituality. But he says that kids in EUSD are being exposed to Hindu thought and belief within the school. "On the wall there was a poster that showed the Ashtanga, or 8-limbed deity. There are words showing what the limbs are," he said. "The ultimate goal is to be absorbed into the universe, which is called Samadhi. They had a poster depicting that. Fundamentally it is a Hindu religion being taught through Ashtanga yoga."
Children are also being taught eastern meditation techniques to calm themselves, where one clears the mind of all thoughts, poses that were imparted by Hindu deities, and in one class were trained in drawing mandalas, according to Broyles.
Parents also raised specific concerns about the program aside from the religious aspects, saying that the fact that kids are taking 60 minutes of the 100 mins per week allotted for physical education to do yoga is inappropriate. Broyles said that for 40 minutes per week the kids are not getting PE, and that they're not offering anything for kids that are opting out of the program.
Broyles says that there are some yoga enthusiasts in favor of the program; he says that people in the district don't really understand eastern mysticism, yoga's roots in Hinduism, and what's being taught.
"If we were introducing Christian worship of bowing, there would be outcry in the community," he said. "It's dangerous to kids."
Republikanci nastavljaju da daju prilično visokoprofilne izjave vezane za silovanje i trudnoću. Ovaj kandidat za senatora je, recimo objasnio da, iako je silovanje užasna stvar, ako je rezultiralo trudnoćom, on je mnenja kako je to bog tako hteo i, konsekventno, neb' valjalo da se abortira.
GOP Senate Candidate: 'God Intended' Pregnancies From Rape (http://news.yahoo.com/gop-senate-candidate-god-intended-pregnancies-rape-061057785--abc-news-politics.html)
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Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock (http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/gop-senate-candidate-fire-rape-remark-17549979) said pregnancies resulting from rape are part of God's plan, tearfully explaining that he only supports abortions when a mother's life is in danger.
"I think even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen," Mourdock said during Tuesday's Senate debate, choking up. Mourdock's opponent, Democratic Rep. Joe Donnelly, opposes abortion except in cases of rape and incest.
After the debate, Mourdock further explained his comment.
"Are you trying to suggest somehow that God preordained rape, no I don't think that," said Mourdock, according to The Associated Press. "Anyone who would suggest that is just sick and twisted. No, that's not even close to what I said."
Democrats wasted no time linking GOP presidential hopeful Mitt Romney to Mourdock. Earlier this week, Romney personally appeared in a TV ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU8NUZNOBBmrA5KDBDRDMq7g&v=PVXKYw_r5ZY&feature=player_embedded) for the Indiana state treasurer, offering his endorsement.
"Richard Mourdock's rape comments are outrageous and demeaning to women. Unfortunately, they've become part and parcel of the modern Republican Party's platform toward women's health, as Congressional Republicans like Paul Ryan have worked to outlaw all abortions and even narrow the definition of rape," Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said in a statement released to press.
"As Mourdock's most prominent booster and the star of Mourdock's current campaign ads, Mitt Romney should immediately denounce these comments and request that the ad featuring him speaking directly to camera on Mourdock's behalf be taken off the air," she added
"Mitt's man Mourdock apes Akin, reflecting a GOP that is way out of mainstream," Obama strategist David Axelrod tweeted.
Romney's campaign distanced itself from Mourdock's comment.
"Gov. Romney disagrees with Richard Mourdock's comments, and they do not reflect his views," campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said.
Abortion has become a more prominent issue in the presidential campaign in recent weeks, as Mitt Romney told the Des Moines Register that he would not pursue any specific abortion legislation as president and began airing a new TV ad (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/mitt-romney-the-abortion-and-contraception-moderate-in-new-tv-ad/) in which a woman touts Romney's support for abortions in cases of rape and incest-a difference of opinion between Romney and his running mate, Paul Ryan.
The Obama campaign hit Romney on abortion soon after, releasing a TV ad of its own (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/obama-ad-shows-romney-delighted-to-ban-all-abortions/) that features footage from a 2007 GOP presidential primary debate in which Romney said he would be "delighted" to sign a bill banning all abortions in the U.S.
Missouri Senate candidate Rep. Todd Akin said during an interview in August that women's bodies have ways of preventing pregnancy in cases of what he called "legitimate rape." Akin apologized for the comment, but refused to leave the race despite pressure from his own party.
ABC News' Elizabeth Hartfield and David Muir contributed to this report. Also Read (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/indiana-senate-candidate-richard-mourdock-pregnancy-from-rape-something-god-intended/)
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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/26/us/new-york-nanny-deaths/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/26/us/new-york-nanny-deaths/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
Police: 2 kids found dead in Manhattan apartment, next to stabbed nanny
New York (CNN) -- A nanny stabbed to death two children of a media executive in a luxury Manhattan apartment, police said Thursday, before slashing her own throat.
The tragic scene played out in an apartment on West 75 Street in Manhattan's Upper West Side.
The mother, Marina Krim, returned home early Thursday evening to find two of her young children in a bathtub, stabbed, as their nanny lay bleeding nearby, police said.
The mother, 38, had just returned around 5:30 p.m with her 3-year-old daughter, who she had just taken to swimming lessons, police Commissioner Ray Kelly said.
All the lights were out in the home, so she went downstairs to ask the doorman whether her two other children and their nanny had gone outside. After the doorman said they had not, the mother went back upstairs and started looking around, Kelly said.
Peering into a bathroom, she let out a scream upon finding her 2-year-old son and 6-year-old daughter stabbed to death in the bathtub, according to Kelly.
The children's 50-year-old nanny was on the bathroom floor unconscious and bleeding, Kelly said. A kitchen knife was next to her and police believe the nanny's wounds were self-inflicted.
The mothers screams were heard by neighbor, Sandy Marcus, who said she dialed 911. The children were taken to Roosevelt Hospital and pronounced dead.
The father of the children is Kevin Krim, an executive with CNBC, several officials familiar with the investigation said.
The father had been on a business trip, CNN affiliate WCBS reported. He returned Thursday evening and was met by police and given the news at the airport, the affiliate reported.
The nanny was arrested, police said, and taken to St. Luke's Hospital, in critical but stable condition. It was not clear why the violence occurred and officers did not know how long the nanny had worked for the Krim family, Kelly said.
The mother, was also rushed to a hospital, suffering from emotional trauma, the affilaite said.
She was so shaken with grief, Kelly said, that the mother could hardly communicate.
QuoteOvaj kandidat za senatora je, recimo objasnio da, iako je silovanje užasna stvar, ako je rezultiralo trudnoćom, on je mnenja kako je to bog tako hteo i, konsekventno, neb' valjalo da se abortira.
Силовање је једна ужасна ствар, то је истина, али је мање ужасна од убиства.
Pa, sad, o tome se već puno raspravljalo. Mnogi misle da abortus u tako ranoj fazi ne može da bude ubistvo jer se radi tek o šačici ćelija koja, istina, ima potencijal da bude čovek ali taj potencijal imaju i oni koji veruju da se u tu šaku ćelija već uselila duša, pa ga ne ispoljavaju!
Nego, u Teksasu upozoravaju posmatrače koji su se prijavili da posmatraju, jelte, izbore, da ne prilaze na više od sto stopa biračkim mestima da ne bi bilo belaja :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Dobro, posle su se ogradili:
International Election Observers Warned by Abbott (http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/2012-elections/international-observers-draw-warning-ag/)
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Updated: Oct. 24, 4:30 p.m.:
Project Vote Executive Director Michael Slater on Wednesday issued a statement addressing Attorney General Abbott's warning to international elections observers.
"America stands for democracy. It appears that Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott is ashamed of Texas's voting rights record or he would welcome observers with open arms. Instead, he is threatening them and attacking groups that are working to ensure that every eligible Texan is allowed to vote.
"Project Vote is one of the nation's largest nonpartisan, non-profit voting rights organizations. As such, we recently advised the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) on areas of concern for voting rights this election. Along with The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, NAACP, League of Women Voters of the United States, and other voting rights organizations, we signed onto a letter inviting OSCE to monitor voting in states most likely to be impacted by voter restriction efforts.
"Texas has a long history of voting rights infringements, which is why it is subject to the Voting Rights Act. Recently, Texas lawmakers have passed laws that make it one of the states most hostile to voter participation. The Texas photo voter ID law and its redistricting plans were not pre-cleared by the Department of Justice. "Project Vote is determined to use all of our available resources to support voting rights in Texas. That's why Project Vote is currently prosecuting two important lawsuits in Texas, one challenging Texas's burdensome restrictions on community voter registration drives, and a second challenging discriminatory procedures registration and list maintenance procedures in Harris County.
"In this election season, Project Vote urges the Texas Attorney General to devote scarce taxpayer resources to protecting voters from the very real threats of voter intimidation and suppression."
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International observers will descend on Texas to monitor the Nov. 6 general election, and the attorney general wants them to understand a clear message: We will be watching you.
In a letter to the Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (http://www.osce.org/odihr/elections), a division of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, Attorney General Greg Abbott (http://www.texastribune.org/directory/greg-abbott/) firmly stated that foreign observers have no business inside local polling places.
"While it remains unclear exactly what your monitoring is intended to achieve, or precisely what tactics you will use to achieve the proposed monitoring, OSCE has stated publicly that it will visit polling stations on Election Day as part of its monitoring plan," he wrote.
According to the letter, the organization met in April with groups that oppose voter ID legislation in Texas, including Project Vote (http://www.projectvote.org/), which tried unsuccessfully through legal challenges to halt five provisions that also affect voter registration in Texas. The voter ID bill is not in effect, however, after being stricken down by the Department of Justice and a federal court this year. Abbott has said he plans to appeal the case.
"The Texas Election Code governs anyone who participates in Texas elections — including representatives of the OSCE," Abbott wrote. "The OSCE's representatives are not authorized by Texas law to enter a polling place. It may be a criminal offense for OSCE's representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place's entrance. Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE's representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law." Representatives from Project Vote were not immediately available for comment.
Abbott foreshadowed the tone of his correspondence via Twitter by invoking a battle cry made famous at the 1835 Battle of Gonzales.
"UN poll watchers can't interfere w/ Texas elections," he tweeted. "I'll bring criminal charges if needed. Official letter posted soon. #comeandtakeit (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=#comeandtakeit) "
The Texas secretary of state's office took a more congenial tone in which it aimed to clarify the visitors' intention, which the office said has been muddied by inaccurate reports. It also asked Ambassador Daan Everts, a leader with the program, to clarify that the group's only mission is to observe Texas elections.
"We have had a long and productive relationship with OSCE and election process observers," secretary of state Hope Andrade (http://www.sos.state.tx.us/) wrote. The observation program "has provided valuable insights into the administrations of elections in various political systems and contexts. The exchange of information establishing best practices has been important and insightful and, up to now, completely devoid of any partisanship."
Andrade repeats Abbott's assertion that that the OSCE has no jurisdiction over Texas elections, but adds that she is certain the OSCE "does not intent to allow its organization and this observation program to be portrayed as an 'inspection' or 'monitoring.'"
In an email to county election officials, Keith Ingram, the state's director of elections, said he has spoken to the observers and they understood what they could do on their visit.
"I have specifically informed the Texas team that Chapter 61 of the Texas Election Code would not allow them into actual polling places, and they understood this limitation," he wrote. "Other than that, I told them that we are ready to answer any questions they may have. If you have any specific concerns or questions, please let me know."
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Quote from: Meho Krljic on 27-10-2012, 00:20:43
Pa, sad, o tome se već puno raspravljalo. Mnogi misle da abortus u tako ranoj fazi ne može da bude ubistvo jer se radi tek o šačici ćelija koja, istina, ima potencijal da bude čovek ali taj potencijal imaju i oni koji veruju da se u tu šaku ćelija već uselila duša, pa ga ne ispoljavaju!
Лет'с агрее то дисагрее! :)
Quote from: Harvester on 26-10-2012, 22:41:15
QuoteOvaj kandidat za senatora je, recimo objasnio da, iako je silovanje užasna stvar, ako je rezultiralo trudnoćom, on je mnenja kako je to bog tako hteo i, konsekventno, neb' valjalo da se abortira.
Силовање је једна ужасна ствар, то је истина, али је мање ужасна од убиства.
Da li bi tako rezonovao i da ti neko siluje majku, sestru, ćerku, da li bi insistirao da održe trudnoću i napao ih da su ubice ako se opredele za abortus?
Odavno sam primetila da ova američka fundamentalistička sorta protivnika abortusa (tm) nema pojma o nekim osnovnim stvarima koje se tiču života, zdravlja i... uopšte dostignuća savremene medicine...
Npr. maltene je nemoguće tamo obaviti abortus posle kraja prvog trimestra - kada se ionako rade samo sa žestokim medicinskim razlozima; pre neku godinu su ubili nekog doktora koji ih je radio, valjda jedini u toj saveznoj državi (zaboravila sam ime ali bi se dalo naći uz nešto gugla).
Političari ništa ne znaju. Sve zavisi od toga kakvi su im savetnici i da li dovoljno brzo reaguju. Političari su ko lampice tinjalice...
Kao sijalice, bez prekidača ne svetle.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 27-10-2012, 00:20:43
Pa, sad, o tome se već puno raspravljalo. Mnogi misle da abortus u tako ranoj fazi ne može da bude ubistvo jer se radi tek o šačici ćelija koja, istina, ima potencijal da bude čovek ali taj potencijal imaju i oni koji veruju da se u tu šaku ćelija već uselila duša, pa ga ne ispoljavaju!
У шестој недељи трудноће, иако "шачица ћелија" још увек нема препознатљиву форму, почиње да се чује срце.
jbt, i mene skrljalo pitanje oko abortusa otkako imam decu. kad vidiš to srdašce kako kuca, nešto kvrcne. al i dalje sam u racionalnom modu, pitanje izbora ne sme da se postavlja.
Eh, srce. Čuje se srce i teletu pa ga jedete. Nije to neki argument!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prvo ga eutanaziramo. Paradajz se ne čuje, pa ga živog nasečemo.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 27-10-2012, 15:55:39
Eh, srce. Čuje se srce i teletu pa ga jedete. Nije to neki argument!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tako je, meho!
ja sam i za mladu teletinu i za (pravo na) abortus! :!:
Quote from: angel011 on 27-10-2012, 12:27:40
Quote from: Harvester on 26-10-2012, 22:41:15
QuoteOvaj kandidat za senatora je, recimo objasnio da, iako je silovanje užasna stvar, ako je rezultiralo trudnoćom, on je mnenja kako je to bog tako hteo i, konsekventno, neb' valjalo da se abortira.
Силовање је једна ужасна ствар, то је истина, али је мање ужасна од убиства.
Da li bi tako rezonovao i da ti neko siluje majku, sestru, ćerku, da li bi insistirao da održe trudnoću i napao ih da su ubice ako se opredele za abortus?
А да ли би ти радије да те неко убије или силује?
Quote from: Jevtropijevićka on 27-10-2012, 12:37:29
Odavno sam primetila da ova američka fundamentalistička sorta protivnika abortusa (tm) nema pojma o nekim osnovnim stvarima koje se tiču života, zdravlja i... uopšte dostignuća savremene medicine...
Npr. maltene je nemoguće tamo obaviti abortus posle kraja prvog trimestra - kada se ionako rade samo sa žestokim medicinskim razlozima; pre neku godinu su ubili nekog doktora koji ih je radio, valjda jedini u toj saveznoj državi (zaboravila sam ime ali bi se dalo naći uz nešto gugla).
Републиканци кажу "живот почиње зачећем", а демократе "не знамо кад почиње живот, ал сто посто није онда кад кажу републиканци". Ја бих волио да од неког ко ИМА појма о основним стварима које се тичу живота чујем у ком тачно тренутку постаје људско биће.
Sve je život. Tu nema nikakve dileme.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 27-10-2012, 15:55:39
Eh, srce. Čuje se srce i teletu pa ga jedete. Nije to neki argument!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Како није? Само што ми који једемо телетину (мада ја више волим крметину) признајемо да је жртва била теле и свјесни смо да је то теле убијено. О моралности свега тога неком другом приликом, сад ваљда само разјашњавамо терминологију :)
Ma to je samo pitanje prihvatanja odgovornosti. Čisti denial.
Quote from: Harvester on 27-10-2012, 17:25:51
Quote from: Jevtropijevićka on 27-10-2012, 12:37:29
Odavno sam primetila da ova američka fundamentalistička sorta protivnika abortusa (tm) nema pojma o nekim osnovnim stvarima koje se tiču života, zdravlja i... uopšte dostignuća savremene medicine...
Npr. maltene je nemoguće tamo obaviti abortus posle kraja prvog trimestra - kada se ionako rade samo sa žestokim medicinskim razlozima; pre neku godinu su ubili nekog doktora koji ih je radio, valjda jedini u toj saveznoj državi (zaboravila sam ime ali bi se dalo naći uz nešto gugla).
Републиканци кажу "живот почиње зачећем", а демократе "не знамо кад почиње живот, ал сто посто није онда кад кажу републиканци". Ја бих волио да од неког ко ИМА појма о основним стварима које се тичу живота чујем у ком тачно тренутку постаје људско биће.
Ma vidi, što se mene tiče, to ti je čisto sholastičko pitanje, uopšte ne osporavam da se kod abortusa radi o prekidanju ljudskog života.
ALI.
Postoji bezbroj razloga zbog kojih se neko može odlučiti na abortus i razlaganje o tome koji su "opravdani" a koji "nisu" samo je mućenje vode. Razlozi mogu biti zdravstveni (npr. preeklampsija, ili neka teška i hronična bolest koju bi trudnoća pogoršala), mogu biti psihološki, mogu biti finansijski, kako god hoćeš... u krajnjoj liniji svi vode ka istoj odluci.
"Ukidanje abortusa" ne znači ukidanje abortusa već ukidanje
legalnog abortusa. Dakle, žene pritešnjene ovim ili onim "neopravdanim" razlozima i dalje bi abortirale, ali samo bi one bogate mogle sebi da priušte iole pristojne uslove i pravog lekara. Ostale bi bile upućene na one babe iz Petrijinog venca ili gradske nadrilekare; abortusi bi se obavljali nestručno, u nehigijenskim uslovima, ili bi ih same žene radile amaterski, i odatle bi prirodno usledili mnogo češće komplikacije, veći stepen smrtnosti od tih komplikacija, češće trajne posledice u vidu bolesti i neplodnosti, da ne pominjem razgranatu korupciju, izloženost ucenama itd.
Sa te strane gledano, "ukidanjem" abortusa ne dobija se ništa a gubi se mnogo. I o tome ja pričam.
Naravno da život započinje začećem. Ali taj, nazovimo ga čisto biološki život, nema nijedno svojstvo zbog koga fetišizujemo ljudski život, odnosno tabuiziramo njegov gubitak i prekid.
Dakle, da, hladnokrvno ubistvo zdrave odrasle osobe, eutanazija bolesnika u vegetativnom stanju uz pristanak bližnjih i abortus jesu svi prekidanje ljudskog života, ali zapravo nemaju ništa zajedničko, pa nema razloga povlačiti ikakve paralele među njima.
Quote from: Father Jape on 27-10-2012, 18:26:26
Naravno da život započinje začećem. Ali taj, nazovimo ga čisto biološki život, nema nijedno svojstvo zbog koga fetišizujemo ljudski život, odnosno tabuiziramo njegov gubitak i prekid.
Која су то својства?
Већ смо о овоме не једном расправљали и да поновим свој став - ја не само што сам против забране абортуса, него сам и за еутаназију.
Али да се престане с мућењем воде о "слободним одлукама шта ћу са својим телом", већ ствари треба називати правим именом. Ако се слажемо да живот настаје зачећем, онда је абортус прекид живота, то јест... шта? Цело то мућење воде о "избору" доводи до тога да се абортус малтене поистовећује с контрацепцијом, што је пре свега екстремна неодговорност према себи и чист апсурд.
Aha, abortus je legalan prekid života, kao eventualno i eutanazija, smrtna kazna, smoodbrana, i ovlašćeno ubistvo zbog nacionalnih interesa (00 - license to kill). Ako je napisano u zakonu onda je legalno, i to je to. Do sad nisam tako razmišljao.
Uvek se sudi za neautorizovano ubistvo, a ne kao što ljudi misle - za ubistvo.
Pustite sad abortus, na redu je - FRANKENSTORM!!!!!!!!!!
'Frankenstorm': Worse than sum of its parts (http://news.yahoo.com/frankenstorm-worse-sum-parts-221055232--finance.html)
QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — The storm that is threatening 60 million Americans in the eastern third of the nation in just a couple of days with high winds, drenching rains, extreme tides, flooding and probably snow is much more than just an ordinary weather system. It's a freakish and unprecedented monster.
How did it get that way?
Start with Sandy, an ordinary late summer hurricane from the tropics, moving north up the East Coast. Bring in a high pressure ridge of air centered around Greenland that blocks the hurricane's normal out-to-sea path and steers it west toward land.
Add a wintry cold front moving in from the west that helps pull Sandy inland and mix in a blast of Arctic air from the north for one big collision. Add a full moon and its usual effect, driving high tides. Factor in immense waves commonly thrashed up by a huge hurricane plus massive gale-force winds.
Do all that and you get a stitched-together weather monster expected to unleash its power over 800 square miles, with predictions in some areas of 12 inches of rain, 2 feet of snow and sustained 40- to 50 mph winds.
"The total is greater than the sum of the individual parts" said Louis Uccellini, the environmental prediction chief of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration meteorologists. "That is exactly what's going on here."
This storm is so dangerous and so unusual because it is coming at the tail end of hurricane season and beginning of winter storm season, "so it's kind of taking something from both — part hurricane, part nor'easter, all trouble," Jeff Masters, director of the private service Weather Underground, said Saturday.
With Sandy expected to lose tropical characteristics, NOAA is putting up high wind watches and warnings that aren't hurricane or tropical for coastal areas north of North Carolina, causing some television meteorologists to complain that it is all too confusing. Nor is it merely a coastal issue anyway. Craig Fugate of the Federal Emergency Management Agency told reporters Saturday: "This is not a coastal threat alone. This is a very large area. This is going to be well inland."
Uccellini, who estimated that 60 million people will feel the storm's wrath somehow, said: "This storm as it grows and moves back to the coast on Monday and Tuesday, the circulation of this storm will extend all the way from the Midwest, the Ohio Valley, toward the Carolinas up into New England and southern Canada. It's really going to be an expansive storm system."
It's a topsy-turvy storm, too. The far northern areas of the East, around Maine, should get much warmer weather as the storm hits, practically shirt-sleeve weather for early November, Masters and Uccellini said. Around the Mason-Dixon line, look for much cooler temperatures. West Virginia and even as far south as North Carolina could see snow. Lots of it.
It is what NOAA forecaster Jim Cisco meant Thursday when he called it "Frankenstorm" in a forecast, an allusion to Mary Shelley's gothic creature of synthesized elements.
Cisco and others have called this storm unprecedented. Uccellini, who has written histories about winter storms, said the closest analogs are the 1991 Perfect Storm that struck northern New England and a November 1950 storm. But this is likely to be stronger and bigger than the Perfect Storm; it will strike farther south, and affect far more people.
In fact, the location among those with the highest odds for gale-force winds in the country's most populous place: New York City. New York has nearly a 2-in-3 chance of gale force winds by Tuesday afternoon.
One of the major components in the ferocity of the storm is that it is swinging inland — anywhere from Delaware to New York, but most likely southern New Jersey — almost a due west turn, which is unusual, Uccellini said. So the worst of the storm surge could be north, not south, of landfall. And that gets right to New York City and its vulnerable subways, which are under increasing risk of flooding, he said.
"There is a potential for a huge mess in New York if this storm surge forecast is right," Masters said.
Add to that the hundreds of miles of waves and the overall intensity of this storm, Uccellini said in an interview, and "we are in the middle of a very serious situation."
Forecasters are far more worried about inland flooding from storm surge than they are about winds.
There are several measures for hurricanes. And one NOAA research tool that measures the intensity of hurricane overall kinetic energy forecasts a 5.2 for Sandy's waves and storm surge damage potential. That's on a scale of 0 to 6, putting it up with historic storms, such as Katrina. It rates a much smaller number for wind.
Because of the mix with the winter storm, the wind won't be as intense as it is near the center of a hurricane. But it will reach for hundreds of miles, spreading the energy further, albeit weaker, meteorologists said.
Uccellini and Masters said they expect the central pressure of the storm to drop to a near record low for the Mid-Atlantic or Northeast for any time of year. That is a big indication of energy and helps power the wind. This puts it on par with the 1938 storm that hit Long Island and New England, killing 800 people, or the equivalent of a category 4 hurricane.
I evo nešto o Kuferovoj omiljenoj temi: uvozu jeftine radne snage. Kako američke (uglavnom IT) firme zloupotrebljavaju H-1B vize:
H-1B visa abuse limits wages and steals US jobs (http://betanews.com/2012/10/25/h-1b-visa-abuse-limits-wages-and-steals-us-jobs/)
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By Robert X. Cringely (http://betanews.com/author/bobcringley/)
The H-1B visa program was created in 1990 to allow companies to bring skilled technical workers into the USA. It's a non-immigrant visa and so has nothing at all to do with staying in the country, becoming a citizen, or starting a business. Big tech employers are constantly lobbying for increases in H-1B quotas citing their inability to find qualified US job applicants. Microsoft cofounder Bill Gates and other leaders from the IT industry have testified about this before Congress. Both major political parties embrace the H-1B program with varying levels of enthusiasm.
But Bill Gates is wrong. What he said to Congress may have been right for Microsoft but was wrong for America and can only lead to lower wages, lower employment, and a lower standard of living. This is a bigger deal than people understand: it's the rebirth of industrial labor relations circa 1920. Our ignorance about the H-1B visa program is being used to unfairly limit wages and steal -- yes, steal -- jobs from US citizens.
H-1B Explained
There are a number of common misunderstandings about the H-1B program, the first of which is its size. H-1B quotas are set by Congress and vary from 65,000 to 190,000 per year. While that would seem to limit the impact of the program on a nation of 300+ million, H-1B is way bigger than you think because each visa lasts for three years and can be extended for another three years after that.
At any moment, then, there are about 700,000 H-1B visa holders working in the USA.
Most of these H-1B visa holders work in Information Technology and most of those come from India. There are about 500,000 IT workers in the USA holding H-1B visas. According to the US Census Bureau, there are about 2.5 million IT workers (http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acsbr11-04.pdf) in America. So approximately 20 percent of the domestic IT workforce isn't domestic at all, but imported on H-1B visas. Keep this in mind as we move forward.
H-1B is a non-immigrant visa. H-1B holders can work here for 3-6 years but then have to return to their native countries. It's possible for H-1B's to convert to a different kind of visa but not commonly done. The most common way, in fact, for converting an H-1B visa into a green card is through marriage to a US citizen.
H-1B isn't the only way for foreigners to work in America. They can work to some extent on student visas and, in fact, many student visas are eventually converted to H-1B for those who have a job and want to stay but maybe not immigrate.
Poorly Understood
There is a misconception about the H-1B program that it was designed to allow companies to import workers with unique talents. There has long been a visa program for exactly that purpose. The O (for outstanding) visa program is for importing geniuses and nothing else. Interestingly enough, the O visa program has no quotas. So when Bill Gates complained about not being able to import enough top technical people for Microsoft, he wasn't talking about geniuses, just normal coders.
I don't want to pick on just Microsoft here, but I happen to know the company well and have written over the years about its technical recruiting procedures. Microsoft has a rigorous recruitment and vetting process. So does Google, Apple -- you name the company. All of these companies will take as many of O visa candidates as they can get, but there just aren't that many who qualify, which is why quotas aren't required.
So when Microsoft -- or Boeing, for that matter -- says a limitation on H-1B visas keeps them from getting top talent, they don't mean it in the way that they imply. If a prospective employee is really top talent -- the kind of engineer who can truly do things others simply can't -- there isn't much keeping the company from hiring that person under the O visa program.
H-1B visas are about journeyman techies and nothing else.
Visa Shuffling
Companies can also transfer employees into the country who have worked for at least a year for the company overseas under an L-1 visa. These, too, are limited by quota and the quota is typically lower than for H-1Bs. Back in the late 1980s when the H-1B program was first being considered it was viewed as a preferable short-term alternative to L-1. It has since turned into something else far darker.
So has the B visa, which is intended for companies to bring their foreign employees into the US for business meetings and trade shows. You'd be amazed how many such business meetings and trade shows last 30 days as companies use B visas to enable foreign employees to work awhile in the United States. I'm told that IBM sometimes platoons workers on B visas, sending them to places like Mexico for a short time then bringing them back across the boarder for another stint.
Tourist visas are also commonly abused even though they specifically prohibit work.
The more interesting question here isn't which multinational corporations consistently abuse B and tourist visas but which ones don't, it is so common.
No Labor Shortage
A key argument for H-1B has always been that there's a shortage of technical talent in US IT. This has been taken as a given by both major political parties. But it's wrong. Here are six rigorous studies (1 (http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4526084/RAND_MG118.pdf), 2 (http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4526084/RAND_MG674.pdf), 3 (http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4526084/RAND_RB9347.pdf), 4 (http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4526084/411562_salzman_Science.pdf), 5 (http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4526084/opr9905%20Espenshade.pdf), 6 (http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4526084/48836536B%20Freeman.pdf)) that show there is no shortage of STEM workers in the United States nor the likelihood of such a shortage in years to come.
You may recall a recent column (http://www.cringely.com/2012/06/14/an-it-labor-economics-lesson-from-memphis-for-ibm/) where the IT community in Memphis, TN proved there was no labor shortage in that technology hotbed.
The whole labor shortage argument is total hogwash. Yes, there is a labor shortage at substandard wages.
Can all of this be just about money? Yes.
What are the Rules?
The rules for H-1B visas state that they must be for technical positions for which there is no comparable US citizen available and the position must pay the prevailing wage or higher.
It's this definition of prevailing wage where we next see signs of H-1B abuse by employers. The intent of the original law was for companies not to use H-1B workers simply to save money. In the enabling legislation from 1990, however, there are two different definitions of the term "prevailing wage." The first is quite strict while the second, which is used by self-certifying employers to set actual pay scales, has plenty of wiggle room.
Warning, dense reading ahead!
Here is the initial definition of "prevailing wage" in 8 USC 1182(n)(1)A):
(i) is offering and will offer during the period of authorized employment to aliens admitted or provided status as an H–1B nonimmigrant wages that are at least­
(ii) the actual wage level paid by the employer to all other individuals with similar experience and qualifications for the specific employment in question, or
(iii) the prevailing wage level for the occupational classification in the area of employment,
And here is the redefinition of "prevailing wage" in 8 USC 1182(p)(4):
(4) Where the Secretary of Labor uses, or makes available to employers, a governmental survey to determine the prevailing wage, such survey shall provide at least 4 levels of wages commensurate with experience, education, and the level of supervision. Where an existing government survey has only 2 levels, 2 intermediate levels may be created by dividing by 3, the difference between the 2 levels offered, adding the quotient thus obtained to the first level and subtracting that quotient from the second level.
Note that section (p) requires that the Department of Labor set up four prevailing wage levels based upon skill but section (n) only requires a prevailing wage for occupation and location. There is no statutory requirement that the employer pick the skill level that matches the employee.
Let's see this in action. According to Bureau of Labor Statistics data, the mean wage for a programmer in Charlotte, NC is $73,965. But the level 1 prevailing wage is $50,170. Most prevailing wage claims on H-1B applications use the level 1 wage
driving down the cost of labor in this instance by nearly a third.If you were casually reading the statutes, by the way, you would never see this redefinition. That's because section (p) does not refer to H-1B but rather to section (n) which is referenced by 8 USC 1101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b).
Got that?
Greed gone WrongBut wait there's more!
It's not hard to suppose from this information that an influx of H-1B workers representing an average 20 percent of the local technical work force (those 500,000 H-1Bs against a 2.5 million body labor pool) would push down local wages. There's plenty of anecdotal evidence that it does, too, but most of the more rigorous academic studies don't show this because there is no easily available data.
What data is available comes from the initial employer applications for H-1B slots These Labor Condition Applications, called LCAs, include employer estimates of prevailing wages. Because there are always more H-1B applications than there are H-1B visas granted, every employer seeking an H-1B may file 3-5 LCAs per slot, each of which can use a different prevailing wage. But when the visa application is approved, it is my understanding that sponsoring companies can choose which LCA they really mean and apply that prevailing wage number to the hire.
Because the visa has already been granted of course they'll tend to take the lowest prevailing wage number, because that's the number against which they match the local labor market.
Remember that part of this business of getting H-1Bs is there must not be a US citizen with comparable skills available
at the local prevailing wage. If we consider that exercise using the data from Charlotte, above, a company would probably be seeking a programmer expecting $73,965 or above (after all, they are trying to
attract talent, right?) but offering $50,170
or below (the multiple LCA trick). No wonder they can't get a qualified citizen to take the job.
Based solely on approved LCAs, 51 percent of recently granted H-1B visas were in the 25th percentile for pay
or below. That's statistically impossible under the intent of the program.
We have no clear way of knowing what companies actually pay their H-1Bs beyond the LCAs, because that information isn't typically gathered, but remember that whatever level it is won't include benefits that can add another 30-40 percent to a US citizen's wage.
Extent of AbuseHere is the Government of India touting (http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=654274) its H-1Bs as cheaper than US workers, which of course they aren't by law supposed to be.
I wish this was the extent of abuse, but it isn't. A 2011 Government Accountability Office study (http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d1126.pdf) found that approximately 21 percent of H-1B visas are simply fraudulent -- that the worker is working for a company other than the one that applied for the visa, that the visa holder's identity has changed, that the worker isn't qualified for H-1B based on skills or education, or the
company isn't qualified for the H-1B program.
H-1Bs, even though they aren't citizens or permanent residents, are given Social Security numbers so they can pay taxes on their U.S. income. A study by the Social Security Administration (http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://oig.ssa.gov/sites/default/files/audit/full/pdf/A-08-11-11114.pdf), which is careful to point out that its job doesn't include immigration monitoring or enforcement, found a number of H-1B anomalies, the most striking of which to me was that
seven percent of H-1B employers reported no payments at all to H-1B visa holders. This is no big deal to the SSA because these people qualify for no benefits, but it makes one wonder whether they are under-reporting just Social Security or also to the IRS and why they might do so? Those H-1B employers who do report Social Security income do so at a level that is dramatically lower than one might expect for job classifications that are legally required to pay the "prevailing wage."
Maybe at this point I should point out that the H-1B visa program is administered by the Department of Homeland Security. Feel better?
One defense of H-1B might be that it raises overall skill levels, but studies show (http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.cis.org/articles/2007/back407.pdf) H-1B employees to be consistently less capable than their US citizen counterparts. This data point is especially interesting because it is drawn from the LCA data where applying companies claimed that 56 percent of H-1B applicants were in the lowest skill category and could therefore be paid the least. So at the same time companies are claiming they need the H-1B program to bring in skilled workers, the workers they are bringing in aren't very skilled at all. Or if they are skilled, then the sponsoring companies are fudging their paperwork to justify paying lower than market wages.
Either truth is damning and the latter is downright illegal.
Here's where I'll give a shout-out to the Libertarian contingent reading this column because they'll tend to say "So what? It's every man or woman for himself. Employers should be able to do whatever they damned well please while workers can always go elsewhere."
But it's against the law. Lawyer's PerspectiveAt this point a longtime reader of this column speaks up:
I have been a practicing immigration attorney for over 13 years. I have done many H-1B visas and like any other government program it was loaded and is still loaded with abuses..
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In my opinion, employers who need H-1B Visa workers should have to go through a screening process before they are allowed to submit the application and a bond should be posted if they violate the law.For a large multinational corporation to play this game is not new. The reason that they carry on with these activities are for one reason only — control. Control of the employee and uneven bargaining at the end of the day. I have dealt with this with different multinational corporations... and they have, can and will act in the same manner. As always, it takes either an investigation by the USDOJ or massive fines (or both) to redirect bad behavior to federal compliance.
Even if I wasn't at ground zero in this stuff, it would still bother me," wrote another longtime reader who has spent his entire career in IT. "Our country spent decades learning to treat workers fairly and with respect. The driving force behind unions in the first place was to address serious problems in the workplace. With all this offshoring and H-1B crap, we've dumped 100 years of improving society down the drain. Maybe USA workers do cost too much. The problem is we are not fixing the actual problem. As more and more jobs go off shore, the damage to our economy grows. If we would
fix the problemsthe playing field would be more level and USA workers could compete for jobs. These abuses by corporations are not only hurting USA workers, they are hurting our nation.
Reprinted with permission
Meho, o Frankenstormu ćemo imati prilike da pričamo iz prve ruke. Sutra ujutro letimo i negde u toku dana ćemo morati preko fronta tog skupa oluja. Sa nadom da je pomalo preterivanje, kao što je svaka vest tamo preterivanje.
Quote from: Harvester on 27-10-2012, 18:55:09
Која су то својства?
Dunno, tu bi valjalo dobro filozofski razmisliti da bi se pružila precizna definicija, ali stvari poput svesti, bivanja osobom i tako to. Dakle ono što par ćelija koje se umnožavaju nedvosmisleno nisu.
Quote from: scallop on 28-10-2012, 08:13:12
Meho, o Frankenstormu ćemo imati prilike da pričamo iz prve ruke. Sutra ujutro letimo i negde u toku dana ćemo morati preko fronta tog skupa oluja. Sa nadom da je pomalo preterivanje, kao što je svaka vest tamo preterivanje.
Nadajmo se. Al vidim da pričaju o 60 miliona ugroženih itd. Držte se.
Nego, u drugim vestima: američke bebednosne snage treniraju za slučaj zombi invazije:
Marines, police prep for mock zombie invasion (http://news.yahoo.com/marines-police-prep-mock-zombie-invasion-180541102.html)
QuoteSAN DIEGO (AP) — Move over vampires, goblins and haunted houses, this kind of Halloween terror aims to shake up even the toughest warriors: An untold number of so-called zombies are coming to a counterterrorism summit attended by hundreds of Marines, Navy special ops, soldiers, police, firefighters and others to prepare them for their worst nightmares.
"This is a very real exercise, this is not some type of big costume party," said Brad Barker, president of Halo Corp, a security firm hosting the Oct. 31 training demonstration during the summit at a 44-acre Paradise Point Resort island on a San Diego bay. "Everything that will be simulated at this event has already happened, it just hasn't happened all at once on the same night. But the training is very real, it just happens to be the bad guys we're having a little fun with."
Hundreds of military, law enforcement and medical personnel will observe the Hollywood-style production of a zombie attack as part of their emergency response training.
In the scenario, a VIP and his personal detail are trapped in a village, surrounded by zombies when a bomb explodes. The VIP is wounded and his team must move through the town while dodging bullets and shooting back at the invading zombies. At one point, some members of the team are bit by zombies and must be taken to a field medical facility for decontamination and treatment.
"No one knows what the zombies will do in our scenario, but quite frankly no one knows what a terrorist will do," Barker said. "If a law enforcement officer sees a zombie and says, 'Freeze, get your hands in the air!' What's the zombie going to do? He's going to moan at you. If someone on PCP or some other psychotic drug is told that, the truth is he's not going to react to you."
The keynote speaker beforehand will be a retired top spook — former CIA Director Michael Hayden.
"No doubt when a zombie apocalypse occurs, it's going to be a federal incident, so we're making it happen," Barker said. Since word got out about the exercise, they've had calls from "every whack job in the world" about whether the U.S. government is really preparing for a zombie event.
Called "Zombie Apocalypse," the exercise follows the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's campaign launched last year that urged Americans to get ready for a zombie apocalypse, as part of a catchy, public health message about the importance of emergency preparedness.
The Homeland Security Department jumped on board last month, telling citizens if they're prepared for a zombie attack, they'll be ready for real-life disasters like a hurricane, pandemic, earthquake or terrorist attack. A few suggestions were similar to a few of the 33 rules for dealing with zombies popularized in the 2009 movie "Zombieland," which included "always carry a change of underwear" and "when in doubt, know your way out."
San Diego-based Halo Corp. founded by former military special ops and intelligence personnel has been hosting the annual counterterrorism summit since 2006.
The five-day Halo counterterrorism summit is an approved training event by the Homeland Security Grant Program and the Urban Areas Security Initiative, which provide funds to pay for the coursework on everything from the battleground tactics to combat wounds to cybersecurity. The summit has a $1,000 registration fee and runs Oct. 29-Nov 2.
Conferences attended by government officials have come under heightened scrutiny following an inspector general's report on waste and abuse at a lavish 2010 Las Vegas conference that led to the resignation of General Services Administrator Martha Johnson. The Las Vegas conference featured a clown, a mind-reader and a rap video by an employee who made fun of the spending.
Joe Newman, spokesman of the watchdog organization Project on Government Oversight, said he does not see the zombie exercise as frivolous.
"We obviously are concerned about any expenditure that might seem frivolous or a waste of money but if they tie things together, there is a lesson there," Newman said. "Obviously we're not expecting a zombie apocalypse in the near future, but the effects of what might happen in a zombie apocalypse are probably similar to the type of things that happen in natural disasters and manmade disasters. They're just having fun with it. We don't have any problems with it as a teaching point."
Defense analyst Loren Thompson agreed.
"The defining characteristics of zombies are that they're unpredictable and resilient. That may be a good way to prepare for what the Pentagon calls asymmetric warfare," Thompson said.
Organizers can also avoid the pitfalls of using a mock enemy who could be identified by nationality, race or culture — something that could potentially be seen as offensive.
"I can think of a couple of countries where the local leaders are somewhat zombie-like," he joked. "But nobody is going to take this personally."
Eto. I šta ja sad da mislim o oluji. U svakom slučaju biću bliže pod svih vas.
Quote from: Father Jape on 28-10-2012, 08:13:33
Quote from: Harvester on 27-10-2012, 18:55:09
Која су то својства?
Dunno, tu bi valjalo dobro filozofski razmisliti da bi se pružila precizna definicija, ali stvari poput svesti, bivanja osobom i tako to. Dakle ono što par ćelija koje se umnožavaju nedvosmisleno nisu.
Прекасно, сад смо на Франкенсторму!!! :!:
Quote from: Father Jape on 28-10-2012, 08:13:33
Quote from: Harvester on 27-10-2012, 18:55:09
Која су то својства?
Dunno, tu bi valjalo dobro filozofski razmisliti da bi se pružila precizna definicija, ali stvari poput svesti, bivanja osobom i tako to. Dakle ono što par ćelija koje se umnožavaju nedvosmisleno nisu.
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Whedon On Romney (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TiXUF9xbTo#ws)
дилема да ће те ромни одвести у зомби апокалипсу а обама неће, чак и из ведонових уста, изгледа имбецилно (мада забавно)
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=4280 (http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=4280)
teško vama, kafiri, sudnji dan kad udari...
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Pismo plavih država crvenim državama:
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/80714812.html (http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/80714812.html)
:lol:
Stephen King gets kicked out of high school (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-banned-book-20121028,0,3090613.story)
http://aws1.earthcam.com/ (http://aws1.earthcam.com/)
uragan sandy zahvatio i sagitu. nema zive duse! ajd gul, ali on se ne broji. :)
Quote from: festus on 30-10-2012, 01:57:30
uragan sandy zahvatio i sagitu. nema zive duse! ajd gul, ali on se ne broji. :)
ja sam nebrojiv.
Sandman ima da gi buglarizuje :shock:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6addbOCcAE9QMq.jpg:large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6addbOCcAE9QMq.jpg:large)
gul je, sine, qua non.
svidja mi se ova gule.
Sandy_ConEd Explosion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAqYZ433TeQ#)
Men Dance Behind Reporter Covering Hurricane Sandy In Atlantic City (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJvd07pM6x0#ws)
Dvorišni pas
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Okupaj Volstrit...
lol
86th Street Subway tunnel under water, photographer unknown.
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Početak horor priče :evil:
http://youtu.be/y-oQrDhqhTI (http://youtu.be/y-oQrDhqhTI)
lepo je reko taxista:
Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.
Слабо је ово. :(
jbt, a sta bi ti dzone? independance day sa alternativnim krajom?
Šest lažnih fotografija uragana "Sendi" koje kruže Internetom (http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/350446/Sest-laznih-fotografija-uragana-Sendi-koje-kruze-Internetom)
Bog govori srpski 8-)
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http://gma.yahoo.com/terrorist-offers-hurricane-aid-us-says-no-thanks-151821686--abc-news-topstories.html (http://gma.yahoo.com/terrorist-offers-hurricane-aid-us-says-no-thanks-151821686--abc-news-topstories.html)
Ovo bolan nije predviđeno...
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/weather/2012/11/02/ac-intv-sandy-staten-island-molinaro.cnn?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/weather/2012/11/02/ac-intv-sandy-staten-island-molinaro.cnn?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
Ви хев но карс! Президент Обама, плииз, лисен ту ас даун хир! Вир гона дај!
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Court OKs warrantless use of hidden surveillance cameras (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57542510-38/court-oks-warrantless-use-of-hidden-surveillance-cameras/)
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Police are allowed in some circumstances to install hidden surveillance cameras on private property without obtaining a search warrant, a federal judge said yesterday.
CNET has learned that U.S. District Judge William Griesbach (http://www.wied.uscourts.gov/index.php?option=com_contxtd&task=view&contact_id=6&Itemid=85) ruled that it was reasonable for Drug Enforcement Administration agents to enter rural property without permission -- and without a warrant -- to install multiple "covert digital surveillance cameras" in hopes of uncovering evidence that 30 to 40 marijuana plants were being grown.
This is the latest case to highlight how advances in technology are causing the legal system to rethink how Americans' privacy rights are protected by law. In January, the Supreme Court rejected (http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57364153-281/why-supreme-courts-gps-ruling-will-improve-your-privacy-rights/) warrantless GPS tracking after previously rejecting (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/99-8508) warrantless thermal imaging, but it has not yet ruled on warrantless cell phone tracking (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57524109-38/justice-dept-to-defend-warrantless-cell-phone-tracking/) or warrantless use of surveillance cameras placed on private property without permission.
Yesterday Griesbach adopted a recommendation by U.S. Magistrate Judge William Callahan dated October 9. That recommendation said that the DEA's warrantless surveillance did not violate the Fourth Amendment (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment04/), which prohibits unreasonable searches and requires that warrants describe the place that's being searched.
"The Supreme Court has upheld the use of technology as a substitute for ordinary police surveillance," Callahan wrote.
Two defendants in the case, Manuel Mendoza and Marco Magana of Green Bay, Wis., have been charged with federal drug crimes after DEA agent Steven Curran claimed to have discovered more than 1,000 marijuana plants grown on the property, and face possible life imprisonment (http://www.justice.gov/usao/wie/news/2012/pr20120717_Marijuana_Grow_2.html) and fines of up to $10 million. Mendoza and Magana asked Callahan to throw out the video evidence on Fourth Amendment grounds, noting that "No Trespassing" signs were posted throughout the heavily wooded, 22-acre property owned by Magana and that it also had a locked gate.
Callahan based his reasoning on a 1984 Supreme Court case called Oliver v. United States (http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0466_0170_ZS.html), in which a majority of the justices said that "open fields" could be searched without warrants because they're not covered by the Fourth Amendment. What lawyers call "curtilage (http://thelawdictionary.org/curtilage/)," on the other hand, meaning the land immediately surrounding a residence, still has greater privacy protections.
"Placing a video camera in a location that allows law enforcement to record activities outside of a home and beyond protected curtilage does not violate the Fourth Amendment," Justice Department prosecutors James Santelle and William Lipscomb told Callahan.
As digital sensors become cheaper and wireless connections become more powerful, the Justice Department's argument would allow police to install cameras on private property without court oversight -- subject only to budgetary limits and political pressure.
About four days after the DEA's warrantless installation of surveillance cameras, a magistrate judge did subsequently grant a warrant. But attorneys for Mendoza and Magana noticed that the surveillance took place before the warrant was granted.
"That one's actions could be recorded on their own property, even if the property is not within the curtilage, is contrary to society's concept of privacy," wrote Brett Reetz, Magana's attorney, in a legal filing last month. "The owner and his guest... had reason to believe that their activities on the property were not subject to video surveillance as it would constitute a violation of privacy."
A jury trial has been scheduled for January 22.
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Империја Зла се неминовно ближи свом крају и то је оно што радује. Тако да је свеједно која од ове двије марионете ће да побиједи. Ипак, навијам за Ромнија, чисто не би ли се они изразито напорни и иритантни фанови Барака Обмане мало изнервирали.
Осим тога, добили су црнца у Бијелој кући, сад би вала могли и једног мормона.
Morona? Pa, to je u opisu radnog mesta.
Their job is to fail 8-)
Quote from: Harvester on 03-11-2012, 12:30:55
Ипак, навијам за Ромнија, чисто не би ли се они изразито напорни и иритантни фанови Барака Обмане мало изнервирали.
Барака ХУСЕИНА Обмане. Иначе, +1.
Ромни има занимљиве и живописне крелце око себе, кога има Обмана? Ону Клинтонову некрофилку и све неке иритирајуће фаце. Ех, да. Како не навијати за човека са фризуром какву фура Ромни? 8-)
Glasanje je u utorak, a ja ne videh da je neko ovde napaljen.
Quote from: scallop on 03-11-2012, 14:34:55
Glasanje je u utorak, a ja ne videh da je neko ovde napaljen.
Mozda tu, ali negde tamo nekog ipak pogadjaju izbori? :(
Tired of Bronco Bamma and Mitt Romney (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjrthOPLAKM#ws)
Quote from: Джон Рейнольдс on 03-11-2012, 14:26:49
Ромни има занимљиве и живописне крелце око себе, кога има Обмана? Ону Клинтонову некрофилку и све неке иритирајуће фаце.
Ali Klintonka se svejedno povlači sa funkcije DS i ako pobedi Obama, tako da bi bilo lepo da umesto nje svoje staro radno mesto dobije Kondoliza Rajs, čisto rasne ujednačenosti radi.
Hurricane Sandy's darker side: Looting and other crime (http://news.yahoo.com/hurricane-sandys-darker-side-looting-other-crime-190000049.html)
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Residents say the Rockaways is a family friendly place. But Hurricane Sandy's aftereffects are making the area more dangerous, with looting and robberies, despite an increased police presence. By Amy Lieberman | Christian Science Monitor – 13 hrs ago
The last bus from Brooklyn (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AqQArKOrtg2ZR_m8_PiM3NetSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqMDgxZXM0BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=12mmaha1r/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Brooklyn%2B(New%2BYork%2BCity)) rolled into the Belle Harbor neighborhood of the Rockaways, Queens, on Friday evening just before 6 p.m., as darkness slipped quickly over the beach-town streets, obscuring curbside piles of discarded furniture and electronics.
No lights powered on inside the modest one and two-story houses, as they haven't for the past five nights, since Hurricane Sandy (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Arfc5jIk.P8SkyJ_GZo79sytSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaWd2Ymg3BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=129pgndos/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Hurricane%2BSandy) – a post-tropical cyclone with 80 mile-per-hour winds – struck this small peninsula and the greater New York City (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=As7FQaVct9OB7ex.JAoWSJ.tSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaTNjbzlmBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzMEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=1291gjsu6/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/New%2BYork%2BCity) area and New Jersey (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ag5N_mxmJfJ5yB0G5Wjky0utSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqc2Fobm1zBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzQEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=124q81vbc/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/New%2BJersey) on Monday, knocking out power for 3.5 million homes and businesses.
When the bus stopped, the 11 passengers scuttled out and set off for home, without lingering on the normally commercial street. Residents describe the Rockaways as a family friendly place, with certain pockets of rough neighborhoods.
But some people say Sandy's aftereffect of darkness is making the area more dangerous, resulting in looting and at-home robberies, despite an increased police presence.
"I saw this guy stealing televisions from a nursing home right on the boardwalk on Tuesday, and the workers were chasing him up the street," said Ben Cooper, who lives in Belle Harbor. "Every time I saw him he had a different TV."
IN PICTURES: Sandy: Chronicle of an unrelenting storm (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Akyskp3je.cQRrjz7WmMZs.tSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaGFmbHBnBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzUEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=13gvif9d8/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/Photo-Galleries/In-Pictures/Sandy-Chronicle-of-an-unrelenting-storm)
Mr. Cooper and a few friends stood talking on his house's porch. It was about 7:45 p.m. and they were the only people around. The ocean breeze was getting colder and stronger. He held his flashlight and looked out onto the street, which was still covered with sand.
"There's no lights, there's no cameras, there's no alarms, there's no nothing. It's kind of scary, you know?" he said.
His neighbor, Talentin Gutierez showed a reporter a borrowed generator, worth about $2,000. His was robbed the other day. Tonight, he will sleep in his car – wrecked from water damage – to guard the generator.
An hour later, a New York City Police Department (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AhQquuHYHBosmIIlYcHPXR2tSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqY2dxYjVxBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzYEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=12vtldcln/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/New%2BYork%2BCity%2BPolice%2BDepartment) officer looked on as four National Guards unloaded cases of bottled water and ready-to-eat emergency food packs outside a recently launched community center half a block away.
Looting and robberies have been up across all of New York City since Sandy hit, said the officer.
In Far Rockaway (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Aj_iO98oyjnHZzPtyk0pPZutSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqZG1vZW1rBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzcEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=126gfo7jv/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Far%2BRockaway) Peninsula, 15 people were charged with looting businesses on Wednesday. Reported arrests in Manhattan (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Aqxn4_ShmAQcvAzH2U1xNjOtSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqZTJrMXNoBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzgEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=1211ua2ng/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Manhattan), Coney Island (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ao4YN08daEjcNf05qxa1pQatSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFqcjE2NDhqBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzkEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=126u7hj4b/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Coney%2BIsland), Brooklyn, and Staten Island (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Av50cEsJPgmUzyzCDjGw2EWtSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFrb2pndWQ3BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEwBHNlYwNNZWRpYUFydGljbGVCb2R5QXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=127feul1e/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Staten%2BIsland) for looting at businesses like supermarkets and sneaker stores totaled 20 last week.
An NYPD spokesperson said in a phone interview that a team is currently investigating how the blackout for swaths of the city has impacted looting and robbery rates in New York City.
In New Jersey, the Monmouth County (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ai6nDNP058VSsCHDJZ.e90KtSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFrM2g5cm4zBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzExBHNlYwNNZWRpYUFydGljbGVCb2R5QXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=129t8kjki/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Monmouth%2BCounty) prosecutor was quoted as saying that police made 25 arrests for burglaries and looting incidents. But Governor Chris Christie (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AobznrEOj7xnS2UXFHEsEN.tSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFrbzVrN3R2BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEyBHNlYwNNZWRpYUFydGljbGVCb2R5QXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=1288odota/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Chris%2BChristie) has said that there is no evidence of widespread looting in the state.
Back in the Rockaways, about 20 blocks away from Belle Harbor, Candice Dugar waited in line for soup nearby a well-lit police precinct. She said she heard about a break-in at a sneaker store, Lee's, and a local convenience store nearby a group of public housing projects.
Melvin Flemings said a group of men looted a liquor store near the police precinct in this neighborhood, Rockaway Park (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AilRgarU91moUfD.Haq.8yqtSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFrZ2VpNWs1BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEzBHNlYwNNZWRpYUFydGljbGVCb2R5QXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=127jdp3cd/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Rockaway%2BPark), and are now selling the alcohol on the beach.
Not everyone in the neighborhood has heard of looting and robberies since Sandy.
"I haven't heard anything, but if they are taking from the grocery stores, it's because they need it," said Rebecca Kelly talking as she ate a cup of soup. "There's no grocery stores open."
The community center, one of several that have popped up since Sandy, was one of the few places lit as the night thickened and the streets cleared of people. It's powered by solar panels from a Greenpeace (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AkSSY7VxV.2Agt3jVS7v.I.tSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFrNTc4NHFjBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzE0BHNlYwNNZWRpYUFydGljbGVCb2R5QXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=12isio5s6/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Greenpeace%2BInternational) truck, which arrived Thursday with groups of volunteers and former Occupy Wall Street (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ano53ZXm4v_7H7qyWZeVz6ytSfQA;_ylu=X3oDMTFrb2d1MDA1BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzE1BHNlYwNNZWRpYUFydGljbGVCb2R5QXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM2cTA4aHU4BGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDZGNjYmYyNDgtYTg5Yy0zN2Y0LWEwZTUtOGVkNjRhZjc4YmU3BHBzdGNhdAN1LXN8Y3JpbWVzYW5kdHJpYWxzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=12egmjma7/EXP=1353227052/**http%3A//www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Occupy%2BWall%2BStreet) demonstrators.
Two local women helped out inside the center, passing out food and clothing. They waited until after 10 p.m. for friends to accompany them on their 5 minute walk home. They are afraid of more than just petty crime, a concern they never had before they lost electricity.
One older woman, who asked only to be identified by her first name, Rosemary, said someone tried to break into her house early Tuesday morning when she was asleep. Today, she found her front door frame ripped off.
"Everything is dark. People take advantage of that factor. It's only normal. It's not only here," she said.
Beatrice Loperfito witnessed two separate attempted home robberies last night. "I heard them breaking windows and I went out with my flashlight. These guys ran and the cops came."
She said she is more worried, though, about the two convicted rapists living on her block.
"I have to protect myself. I have nothing else to give but myself. Everything else is all gone," she explained.
The women and the rest of the volunteers eventually left and the lingering community center volunteers locked its doors close to 11 p.m., leaving bread and water outside.
Inside, the roaming police cars' blue and red beams reflected through the center's glass doors and onto a wall throughout the night.
In the morning, sunlight faded in slowly at 7 a.m. On the main drag in Belle Harbor, small groups of people huddled, waiting for express buses to Brooklyn and Queens.
Odlično su se snašli. Amerika - zemlja oportunista!
Da sam odrastao uz xkcd sada bih radio u statističkom zavodu. Ustvari, i ovako mi je malo falilo.
http://xkcd.com/1127/ (http://xkcd.com/1127/)
Why is the US military preparing for a zombie apocalypse?
That's the latest training exercise that US Marines and Navy special-operations forces will be taking part in on an island off the coast of San Diego – starting on Wednesday, aka Halloween.
"This is a very real exercise. This is not some type of big costume party," Brad Barker, president of the Halo Corp. security company, told the Associated Press.
[RECOMMENDED: War games – Pentagon's 3 nightmare scenario]
This scenario is dire, modeled in part on a public-service campaign that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) launched last year, warning that US citizens should be prepared in the event of a zombie invasion.
It will play out Wednesday and Thursday at Halo's annual Counter-Terrorism Summit security conference, which will be attended by, among other people, former Central Intelligence Agency director Michael Hayden.
Zombies will invade Paradise Point Resort, which covers 44 acres on an island that will be transformed with Hollywood-style sets, including a Middle Eastern village and a pirate cove. Some 1,000 US military personnel, police, and state and federal government officials will be charged with responding.
"No doubt when a zombie apocalypse occurs, it's going to be a federal incident, so we're making it happen," Mr. Barker told the AP.
The training scenario has not come without its share of unwelcome attention, he noted, adding that "every whack job in the world" has called about the exercise.
Barker acknowledges that the "zombie apocalypse is very whimsical," telling the Military Times that the scenario was created to "add some levity to the more-dire scenarios summitgoers will encounter," including terrorists roaming hospital halls shooting people and pilots trapped behind enemy lines.
That said, an affinity for zombie television shows and movies could help provide a teachable moment not only for US troops, but also for the American public.
This is particularly true when it comes to the uncertainty that surrounds unexpected catastrophic events, including natural disasters and terrorist attacks.
"No one knows what the zombies will do in our scenario, but quite frankly, no one knows what a terrorist will do," Barker told the AP. "If a law-enforcement officer sees a zombie and says, 'Freeze, get your hands in the air!' what's a zombie going to do? He's going to moan at you. If someone on PCP or some other psychotic drug is told that, the truth is he's not going to react to you."
When it launched its awareness campaign last year on a zombie apocalypse, the CDC used it as a chance to encourage Americans to be prepared for any unexpected emergency.
"We have a very small office and an equally small budget," Maggie Silver, a CDC official, told ABC News. "So we had to do something that wasn't going to take a lot of manpower or dollars."
The CDC recommended doing things such as stocking up on water (one gallon per person per day), food (nonperishable items you eat regularly), tools like duct tape, a battery-powered radio, and blankets.
Last month, the Department of Homeland Security released its own tongue-in-cheek webinar about zombie preparation as an "effective way of engaging new audiences," as one FEMA official noted.
The CDC zombie campaign grew out of an effort "to spice up our general preparedness message," added Ms. Silver. "We decided, why not give people what they want?"
xrofl
It's not over until the director says its over...
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57544997/superstorm-sandys-victims-brace-for-new-storm/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57544997/superstorm-sandys-victims-brace-for-new-storm/)
Superstorm Sandy's victims brace for new storm
NEW YORK A new storm was expected to hit the New York-New Jersey region still shivering and cleaning up after last week's Superstorm Sandy, bringing the threat of 55 mph gusts and more beach erosion, flooding and rain by Wednesday.
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New Yorkers helping neighbors after Sandy
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Cold weather a new problem for Sandy victims
Temperatures dipped toward freezing early Monday, and tens of thousands of people without power along the ravaged Atlantic coastline faced the growing certainly that they would have to find somewhere else to stay. Especially hard hit were the thousands in public housing, who often have no place to go and barricade themselves in darkened apartments for the 12 hours of night.
"Nights are the worst because you feel like you're outside when you're inside," said Genice Josey, a Far Rockaway resident who sleeps under three blankets and wears long johns under her pajamas. "You shiver yourself to sleep."
David Bernard, chief meteorologist for CBS' Miami station WFOR-TV, reports that between Tuesday night and early Wednesday morning the storm will begin to gather strength off the Outer Banks of North Carolina.
The weather will likely deteriorate across the Northeast during the day Wednesday, Bernard reports. Even inland areas like Washington, D.C., could see a heavy, wet snow Wednesday evening before changing over to rain. The bad weather could last until Thursday night and possibly even Friday night.
As more than a million students joined the morning rush hour Monday for the first time since the storm, commuters continued to wait - and sometimes sleep - in their cars in long lines for gas. Other commuters packed the limited-service Long Island trains so tightly that some people couldn't get on.
"We're a gallon away from turning into a Third World country," New York commuter Scott Sire said Monday.
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Obama on Sandy: We will put "120 percent" toward recovery
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Romney on Hurricane Sandy: "We are going through trauma"
And with the U.S. presidential election on Tuesday, New York City's mayor was asked if the city would be ready for it. "I have absolutely no idea," Michael Bloomberg said.
The new storm worried the large swaths of the region that were returning to something resembling normal.
"Prepare for more outages," said National Weather Service meteorologist Joe Pollina. "Stay indoors. Stock up again."
Sandy left more than 100 people dead in 10 states. Half a million people in New York state remained without power, and more than 800,000 were without power in New Jersey a week after the storm.
To help victims of Sandy, donations to the American Red Cross can be made by visiting Red Cross disaster relief, or you can text REDCROSS to 90999 to make a $10 donation.
With temperatures sinking into the 30s overnight, New York City officials handed out blankets and urged victims to go to overnight shelters or daytime warming centers.
But government leaders began to wonder where to find housing in the densely developed area around the largest U.S. city for the tens of thousands whose homes could be uninhabitable for weeks or months.
Bloomberg said 30,000 to 40,000 New Yorkers may need to be relocated - a monumental task in a city where housing is scarce and expensive - though he said that number will probably drop to 20,000 within a couple of weeks as power is restored in more places.
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"We're not going to let anybody go sleeping in the streets. ... But it's a challenge, and we're working on it," Bloomberg said.
One option is setting up Federal Emergency Management Agency trailer camps of the kind that existed after Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans in 2005, said George W. Contreras, associate director of the emergency and disaster management program at Metropolitan College of New York.
Contreras speculated that large encampments might be set up at a stadium, in a park or in some other open space in the city - something he couldn't recall being done in New York ever before.
"The amount of actual units the city might have in buildings is probably very limited, so I think people will be in FEMA shelters for a while," he said.
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Sandy's devastation on Staten Island
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Good Samaritans bring relief to Staten Island
In a powerless and heavily flooded Staten Island neighborhood, Sara Zavala sleeps under two blankets and layers of clothing. She has a propane heater but turns it on for only a couple of hours in the morning.
"When I woke up, I was like, 'It's freezing.' And I thought, 'This can't go on too much longer,'" she said Sunday.
Nearly 1 million homes and businesses were still without power in New Jersey, and about 650,000 in New York City, its northern suburbs and Long Island.
Sue Chadwick, who left her Long Island, house ahead of the storm, said Sunday night she and others were told to leave their Extended Stay America hotel rooms in Melville that she had booked through the end of next week - to make room for other storm victims.
Chadwick's own house remained uninhabitable. She found her way to Vermont to stay with family.
"It's not like I'm there on business and could catch the next plane out," she said. "There are people in worse shape, but I just feel like when people are in these dire circumstances, you don't want to make it worse."
The phone rang unanswered at the hotel Sunday night.
Onaj oil spill je izgleda sjebo golfsku struju...
Quote from: Lord Kufer on 05-11-2012, 19:09:04
Onaj oil spill je izgleda sjebo golfsku struju...
totalno
Blago si ga njima
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/06/opinion/ghitis-democracy-election/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/06/opinion/ghitis-democracy-election/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
On Election Day, pause to marvel at democracy
Mogu da biraju između Ološijeg i Gorijeg.
Čudo jedno! :?
Pobediće Mito Obate.
pobediće amerika!!!
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Srbija pobedila jos prosle nedelje xcheers
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2012 Voting Machines Altering Votes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpGd74DrBM#)
Hej, ovo nisam znao, pa oni imaju četiri kandidata za predsednika.
EDIT: nije četiri nego šest. Zanimljivo je kako oni to komplikuju s tim glasanjem.
Evo ti pa ih broj ako te ne mrzi.
http://www.politics1.com/p2012.htm (http://www.politics1.com/p2012.htm)
од рос пероа (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot) нису имали трећег кандидата који би узео више од 5% гласова
Obama predsednik SAD još 4 godine (http://www.021.rs/Info/Svet/Obama-predsednik-SAD-jos-4-godine.html)
:x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
Crnčuga...
Ipak im je doneo poboljšanu zdravstvenu zaštitu.
Crnčugama uvek uvaljuju poslove koje nijedan pošteni belac neće obaviti...
Ko je Obami uvalio ideju reforme zdravstva tako da zaštitu dobiju milioni onih koji je do tada nisu imali? Masoni? Rotšildi? Trilateralna komisija?
Ne budi glup. Židovi, naravno, a ko bi drugi...
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 07-11-2012, 12:51:17
Ipak im je doneo poboljšanu zdravstvenu zaštitu.
to je da bi bili zdraviji za u vojsku! :idea:
Hm... tesko pitanje. Moj konacan odgovor je pod "B" Rotsildi!
Oni jedini imaju koristi od prekomerne potrosnje drzavnog novca! :)
- Tata, sta je to demokratija?
- To ti je, sine, kad mi, crnci, dobijamo socijalnu pomoć, zdravstveno osiguranje, stanove u prodžektima, a belci moraju da rade..
- A tata, a jel to belce ne nervira?
- Nervira ih, al to je već rasizam..
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/46054_4902340440446_1764140819_n.jpg)
Quote from: Stipan on 07-11-2012, 13:09:10
Ne budi glup. Židovi, naravno, a ko bi drugi...
Dakle, Židovi i crnac su se udružili da bi poboljšali pristupačnost zdravstvene zaštite najširim slojevima stanovništva. Zašto je onda čudno da su ljudi glasali za njega?
Neinformisan si Meho, kao i uvek...
Nije čudno, nego tragično.
Tragično je da milioni ljudi dobiju pristup zdravstvenoj zaštiti a koji spada u osnovna ljudska prava u dobrom delu civilizovanog sveta?? Kako sad to?
Ajd' videćemo kako će se to zdravstveno osiguranje odraziti na poduhvate američkih jurišnika po tuđim naftnim poljima...
Ja baš ne vidim vezu između te dve stvari, kao što ne vidim da bi izbor Mitra Romnija za predsednika SAD rezultirao u manje agresivnoj spoljnoj politici. Ne zaboravimo da je Obama ipak proglasio kraj američke intervencije u Iraku i krenuo sa povlačenjem vojske odande, kao i da se Amerika nije umešala u intervenciju u Libiji.
Pa kad su natovarili evropsku uniju da interveniše.
Ekonomija SAD-a: najveći porast duga u američkoj povijesti neodrživ je, nema jednostavnog odgovora na vidiku (http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/ekonomija-sad-a-najveci-porast-duga-u-americkoj-povijesti-neodrziv-je-nema-jednostavnog-odgovora-na-vidiku/)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 07-11-2012, 13:33:42
Ja baš ne vidim vezu između te dve stvari, kao što ne vidim da bi izbor Mitra Romnija za predsednika SAD rezultirao u manje agresivnoj spoljnoj politici. Ne zaboravimo da je Obama ipak proglasio kraj američke intervencije u Iraku i krenuo sa povlačenjem vojske odande, kao i da se Amerika nije umešala u intervenciju u Libiji.
Mora da se salis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Odyssey_Dawn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Odyssey_Dawn)
:-D
Dobro, malo su se mešali u poređenju sa prethodnim akcijanjima sličnog tipa.
Pošto sam poskidao drlje s očiju, da se javim s lica mesta.
Mali Đokica Krljić i dalje odvaljuje skoro kao Loni. Oni koji kontrolišu Ameriku još jednom su podelili vlast tako da se ništa pametno ne može uraditi. Obama će se žaliti na Parlament, Republikanci na Senat, a svi zajedno na Obamu. Skoro kao kod nas gde nikako da ulovimo koja je partija kriva, pa da je odjebemo za sva vremena. Dobro, odjebali smo kumove, ali je pitanje i kako su se te budale ikada domogle vlasti.
Ameri su, naravno, izabrali Nobelovca 8-) Zašto da rizikuju s nepoznatim čovekom?
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 07-11-2012, 13:33:42
Ja baš ne vidim vezu između te dve stvari, kao što ne vidim da bi izbor Mitra Romnija za predsednika SAD rezultirao u manje agresivnoj spoljnoj politici. Ne zaboravimo da je Obama ipak proglasio kraj američke intervencije u Iraku i krenuo sa povlačenjem vojske odande, kao i da se Amerika nije umešala u intervenciju u Libiji.
Meho, ponekad posumnjam da ti živiš na ovoj planeti. Ili to, ili su tvoja verovanja u ideale zaista nepokolebljiva. Onaj ko daje keš, tj.krupni kapital, donosi odluke, a predsednici i vladini činovnici su samo figure koje te odluke trebaju sprovoditi pod plaštom demokratije i zakonskih procedura. Prosto ne mogu da poverujem da uistinu misliš da narod zaista o nečemu odlučuje tamo.
Prosto ne mogu da poverujem da je nivo političkog rezonovanja ovde na nivou petog razreda osnovne škole, ali ajde, valjda nas je petsto godina pod Turcima naviklo da budemo ekstremno cinični.
Naravno da narod zaista o nečemu odlučuje i tamo i ovde.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 07-11-2012, 15:36:07
Naravno da narod zaista o nečemu odlučuje i tamo i ovde.
Clinically cynical or cynically clinical?
Au Meho pa narid se nikad ništa nije pitao, ni tamo ni ovde ni nigde.
Tačno je da narod odlučuje. Odlučio je da bude glup ko praseća noga.
Šta ti imaš protiv praseće noge? Ugrizao si je jednom i nije rekla: "Jao!"?
Quote from: Stipan on 07-11-2012, 13:02:23
Crnčugama uvek uvaljuju poslove koje nijedan pošteni belac neće obaviti...
Neko reko Rasim Ljajić?
Nije loša s kiso kupus.
A ti rek'o da je glupa!
Quote from: Lord Kufer on 07-11-2012, 15:48:52
Tačno je da narod odlučuje. Odlučio je da bude glup ko praseća noga.
Tako nekako. Nismo rekli da narod uvek donosi odluke koje će mu u globalu biti korisne, ali nema spora da donosi odluke.
Ispravna logika je mnoge odvela do kazana i u kazan.
Ma, Meho, ti si ipak idealista. Eno, još čuvaju i ne objavljuju rezultate iz Floride. Za svaki slučaj, ako narod odluči dugačije.
genijalno!
narod se ništa ne pita niti narod odlučuje, te samim tim narod nema nikakvu odgovornost kad nešto krene kako ne treba. mislim, ionako ni o cemu ne odlučujemo, pa ni o tome ko će biti na vlasti.
Od trenutka kad je istorija zabeležila vlast kao način upravljanja, oni kojima se upravlja nikada nisu odlučivali. Doduše, ponekad se vlasti pozivaju na narod, kad im zatreba pokriće.
Sve to ima lepo objašnjeno u Svetom Gralu.
Nije Sveti Gral, al dobro je ;)
Monty Python Communist Quiz sketch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ9myHhpS9s#)
Ja ni najmanje ne sumnjam da se narod kao takav onomad opredelio za Slobu, docnije za Koštunicu i tako sve do Tome -.- Onog ranije se ne sećam najbolje, to ipak treba pitati broja jedan. -.-
Evo primera iz Srbije, kako narod odlučuje. Pre samo nekoliko nedelja je krajnji rok za plaćanje robe bio 3 meseca a negde i više, znači govorim o velikim kupcima, a i kad dodješ da naplatiš on te odjebe, da izvinite na izrazu, i ti ne možeš ništa nego ili i dalje da radiš ili da propadneš, a mnogi su propali. I sad je donesen zakon da je krajnji rok promenjen na 45 dana ili tako nešto. A zbog čega tek sad, da li ste se zapitali, pa gosn Mišković je prodao svoje lance trgovine i sad je on proizvodjač, obrnuo je stranu i sad njemu neidgovara da čeka pare. Dinkić je u vladama već 10 godina, pa sad ko tu za koga radi, vlada za narod ili pak ne, a narod je "birao" vladu.
Da rezimiramo: Amerikanski narod je crnčugi uvalio posao koji nijedan pošteni belac ne bi radio.
Blago, Jevtropijevićki, ona i u bajke veruje bez pardona.
Stipane, ti ne seri više, jer ću te prijavim za rasizam.
Quote from: scallop on 07-11-2012, 17:24:44
Blago, Jevtropijevićki, ona i u bajke veruje bez pardona.
pa da, mora biti neke prednosti i za nas nišče duhom. Ono na Gazimestanu mi se sigurno prividelo, a i bila sam mala. -.-
Kakav rasizam? Ko je pominjao Cigane?
ma bre jevtro, narod ne odlučuje ni o čemu, naivan je pa ga zli dedaci navuku i endapuješ sa stotinama hiljada na nekom mitingu. to se onda nazove "dešavanje naroda".
i bojim se da će se, u slučaju narod vs. evolucija humankinda, napalm pokazati kao jedino ozbiljno rešenje.
Stipane, moj laptop je ovde pod nadzorom i ako dođu da traže ko je Stipan, ja ću da kažem Stevan Šarčević. Šta mogu, slab sam na pretnje.
A, za Gazimestan se pričinilo. UIvek su doterivali masu iz okoline ili dovozili autobusima u radno vreme. Onda je zavisdilo i od ugla snimanja, kad spuste kameru dole, onda ima malo sveta, pa vi vidite šta je istina.
oni trpali u autobuse a masa se otimala!
Otimali se oni, ali se nisu oteli.
E falim te bože da nas ima i indiskretnih!
Narod je odlučio da bude glup. Da neće možda neko da se sažali na njega?
Quote from: lilit_depp on 07-11-2012, 17:33:30
ma bre jevtro, narod ne odlučuje ni o čemu, naivan je pa ga zli dedaci navuku
To i ja kažem, navuku ga pa sam odluči!!! I Hitler je legalno došo na vlast!!!
Zato se Wall Street danas strmekno, zbog rasizma verovatno :evil:
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The Boondocks- President's a Nigger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ZRAmz-NWM#ws)
Quote from: lilit_depp on 07-11-2012, 17:33:30
ma bre jevtro, narod ne odlučuje ni o čemu, naivan je pa ga zli dedaci navuku i endapuješ sa stotinama hiljada na nekom mitingu. to se onda nazove "dešavanje naroda".
i bojim se da će se, u slučaju narod vs. evolucija humankinda, napalm pokazati kao jedino ozbiljno rešenje.
Narod je masa laka za oblikovanje, ko plastelin.
Pa masa koja je u Splitu davila vojnike, pet godina pre toga je klicala Radanoviću i pobedi Jugoslavije.
Nemci za koje važi da su mnogo prosvećeniji od varvarskih balkanaca, padali su bukvalno u hipnotički trans pred
psihotičnim propalim slikarem gadnih brčića. I sad pričamo kao narod donosi odluku, a posebno se razgoropadio za
vreme Slobe, to pre u istoriji nikad nije bilo viđeno... :)
Padali su pred pištaljkom.
I pred šerpenjom.
Quote from: Anomander Rejk on 07-11-2012, 20:33:32
Narod je masa laka za oblikovanje, ko plastelin.
Pa masa koja je u Splitu davila vojnike, pet godina pre toga je klicala Radanoviću i pobedi Jugoslavije.
Nemci za koje važi da su mnogo prosvećeniji od varvarskih balkanaca, padali su bukvalno u hipnotički trans pred
psihotičnim propalim slikarem gadnih brčića. I sad pričamo kao narod donosi odluku, a posebno se razgoropadio za
vreme Slobe, to pre u istoriji nikad nije bilo viđeno... :)
isuse! ako si ti priseban neka me pogodi grom!
Pored izbora za predsednika US Amerike i parlamente, neki stejtovi imali su i dodatne izbore za sledeće stavke:
- Da li ste za to da ovaj stejt legalizuje gej brakove?
- Da li ste za to da ovaj stejt legalizuje upotrebu marihuane u rekreativne svrhe?
- Da li ste to da ovaj stejt ukine smrtnu kaznu?
- Da li ste za to da ovaj stejt oduzme medicnsko osiguranje i pomoć iz javne kase osobi koja je izvršila abortus?
- Prvo pitanje o gej brakovima bilo je održano u 4 stejta. Od toga su 3 glasala za (Vašington, Merilend i Mejn), a jedan protiv (Minesota).
U Minesoti je broj pristalica bio manji (48 %) od broja protivnika (51,5).
Neki lik na sajtu CNN-a napisao komentar - Selim se iz ove homofobične i zatucane Minesote.
Mislim se, što je homofobična ... U Srbiji ne bi ni 7-8 % bilo za, a njemu 48 % malo? :-x :-x :-x
Sa ove tri, trenutno je 10 stejtova koji priznaju gej brakove od 50.
- Pitanje o marihuani bilo je postavljeno u 3 stejta. U dva je prošlo (Kolorado i opet Vašington), u trećem nije (Oregon).
- Pitanje o ukidanju smrtne kazne bilo je samo u Kaliforniji. Interesantno da nije prošlo!
:-? Veći broj pristalica imala smrtna kazna nego protivnika! Čude me Kaliforljani.
- Pitanje o brisanju izvršiteljki abortusa iz medicinskog osiguranja bilo je samo na Floridi. Nije prošlo.
U svakom slučaju, najveće promene posle jučerašnjeg dana dobio je Vašington Stejt.
U istom danu i legalni gej brakovi i legalna marihuana. Rođenje prekookeanske Holandije je na vidiku.
Smrtna kazna je dobra.
Smrtnu kaznu još uvek ima nekoliko stejtova tamo. Oko desetak.
Šta znam...
Možda je paradoksalno da se protiv ubistava boriš novim ubistvom, a možda je baš to delotvorno.
Nikad se nisam bavio validnošću smrnte kazne jer ne vidim neki razlog da posebno štedim višestruke ubice.
Problem je u zloupotrebi.
E, u Tulsi je bilo pitanje da se oslobode poreza intangible assets. Obrazloženo kroz primer oporezovanja diploma učitelja. Dobilo podršku, ali se odnosi i na licence za bušenje nafte i gasa. Zapravo, to je i bio cilj predloga, a narod glup ko što Kufer kaže.
Quote from: Lord Kufer on 07-11-2012, 23:46:37
Smrtna kazna je dobra.
У неким случајевима дефинитивно јесте.
A još kad naredi prešjednik Jamerike :evil:
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Шта су то стејтови?
Demokratija ima mnogo lica:
Los Angeles mandates condoms for porn actors, industry threatens suit (http://news.yahoo.com/los-angeles-mandates-condoms-porn-actors-industry-threatens-002111773.html)
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Los Angeles County voters passed a ballot initiative mandating that pornographic film actors wear condoms during sex scenes, prompting a trade group on Wednesday to threaten to sue and take production elsewhere.
Measure B, which was sponsored by the group AIDS Healthcare Foundation, won approval on Tuesday by a margin of 55.85 percent to 44.15 percent, according to the Los Angeles County Registrar-Recorder's office.
"This is what democracy looks like; we took this to county government, and they didn't act so we took it directly to the voters, and they spoke conclusively," AIDS Healthcare Foundation President Michael Weinstein said.
The law requires adult film actors filming in Los Angeles County to use condoms during sex scenes. Most U.S. pornographic productions are made in the county's San Fernando Valley.
Diane Duke, chief executive for the industry group Free Speech Coalition, told Los Angeles County supervisors in a letter on Wednesday that the law was unconstitutional and that it fell under state jurisdiction, not that of local government.
"Therefore, we will file suit and challenge this intolerable law in court," Duke said in the letter. A copy was provided to Reuters.
She said the adult filmmakers had been approached to move elsewhere, adding: "In the upcoming weeks and months, we will provide a roadmap for adult production to move its over a billion dollar industry and its accompanying 10,000 jobs to these welcoming communities."
David Sommers, a spokesman for the Board of Supervisors, declined to respond specifically to the letter, saying he had not read it. He said county health officials were still grappling with the law's implications.
"This type of enforcement is a new thing for us and it's a one-of-a-kind law and so how we move forward with its implementation is a conversation we're just beginning to have given how the voters decided Measure B," he said.
The initiative requires porn producers to get a health permit from Los Angeles County to make their movies showing explicit sex and nudity. Using condoms on set would be a condition of obtaining that permit.
California workplace laws mandate the use of condoms by porn performers, but AIDS Healthcare officials say the statute is not specifically aimed at the industry and is widely violated.
The Free Speech Coalition said in its letter that such requirements would impose "excessive costs of compliance."
(Reporting by Dan Whitcomb; Editing by Cynthia Osterman)
Ili:
Dead candidates win elections in Florida, Alabama (http://news.yahoo.com/dead-candidates-win-elections-florida-alabama-202607386.html)
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(Reuters) - Florida Democrat Earl K. Wood and Alabama Republican Charles Beasley won their respective elections but they will not take office.
Both men died weeks before the November 6 election yet managed to beat their very much alive opponents by comfortable margins.
Wood died on October 15 from natural causes at age 96, during his campaign for a 12th term as Orange County Tax Collector in Orlando, Florida.
Criticized for rarely coming into the office while collecting a $150,000 salary and $90,000 pension, Wood initially announced he would step down, only to change his mind when a longtime political foe made plans to seek the seat.
Wood's wide name recognition after almost half a century in office scared off several serious contenders. His name remained on the ballot and he took 56 percent of the votes to 44 percent for a Republican who promised to eliminate the office altogether if elected.
Beasley, 77, died on October 12, possibly due to an aneurysm, while trying to reclaim his old seat on the Bibb County Commission in central Alabama.
Beasley's name also remained on the ballot and he won about 52 percent of the vote. His Democratic opponent, incumbent Commissioner Walter Sansing, took the loss especially hard.
"It is a touchy situation. When you are running against a dead man, you are limited as to what you can say," Sansing told Reuters.
He blamed people voting straight Republican tickets for his loss.
In Orlando, Scott Randolph, an outgoing Democratic state legislator and state party activist, was selected by his party to receive votes cast for Wood and he will assume the office. In Alabama, the governor will appoint a new commissioner with input from local Republicans.
(Editing by Jane Sutton and Andrew Hay)
Stejtovi su američke države kojih ima 50.
Loša reč.
Sa Lonijem se nikad ne zna! :!:
State commonly refers to the present condition of a system or entity.
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/351974/Posmatrac-U-Haos-na-izborima-u-SAD-na-nekim-automatima-nije-bilo-moguce-glasanje-za-Romnija (http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/351974/Posmatrac-U-Haos-na-izborima-u-SAD-na-nekim-automatima-nije-bilo-moguce-glasanje-za-Romnija)
Eto
To mora da su Srbi nesto namestili i zasrali...
A, i scallop je tamo....
xfrog
koincidirao....
U vreme kad se još znalo da facijalne malje čine bar pola muškosti:
The endearing reason why Lincoln grew his beard (http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/endearing-reason-why-lincoln-grew-beard-015915146.html)
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Steven Spielberg (http://movies.yahoo.com/person/steven-spielberg/)'s highly anticipated biopic "Lincoln (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/lincoln/)" opens in limited release this weekend. Starring Daniel Day-Lewis (http://movies.yahoo.com/person/daniel-daylewis/) as the nation's 16th (and arguably most beloved) president, the film is already an Oscar favorite and sure to spark renewed interest in all things Honest Abe.
Of course, one doesn't think of Abraham Lincoln without his beard. And almost as legendary as the beard itself is the story of why he chose to grow one. The beard almost didn't happen. According to many sources, including "Team of Rivals," the nonfiction account of Lincoln's presidency on which the film is based, Lincoln grew the beard after receiving a letter (http://quod.lib.umich.edu/l/lincoln/lincoln4/1:186?rgn=div1;view=fulltext) from a young girl named Grace Bedell, who saw a drawing of a clean shaven Lincoln on a campaign poster.
[Related: Sally Field to Steven Spielberg: 'I won't let you walk away from me' (http://yhoo.it/VvsLzq)]
The letter read (grammar errors and all):
Dear Sir
My father has just home from the fair and brought home your picture and Mr. Hamlin's. I am a little girl only eleven years old, but want you should be President of the United States very much so I hope you wont think me very bold to write to such a great man as you are. Have you any little girls about as large as I am if so give them my love and tell her to write to me if you cannot answer this letter. I have got four brothers and part of them will vote for you any way and if you let your whiskers grow I will try and get the rest of them to vote for you you would look a great deal better for your face is so thin. All the ladies like whiskers and they would tease their husbands to vote for you and then you would be President. My father is going to vote for you and if I was a man I would vote for you to but I will try to get every one to vote for you that I can I think that rail fence around your picture makes it look very pretty I have got a little baby sister she is nine weeks old and is just as cunning as can be. When you direct your letter direct to Grace Bedell Westfield Chautauqua County New York.
I must not write any more answer this letter right off Good bye
Grace Bedell
Ms. Bedell's charming correspondence earned a response from Lincoln, who wrote:
My dear little Miss
Your very agreeable letter of the 15th is received - I regret the necessity of saying I have no daughters - I have three sons - one seventeen, one nine, and one seven years of age. They, with their mother, constitute my whole family. As to the whiskers have never worn any do you not think people would call it a silly affection if I were to begin it now?
Your very sincere well wisher
A. Lincoln
[Related: 'Lincoln' star Daniel Day-Lewis heard the voice in his head (http://yhoo.it/SUliOr)]
Of course, Lincoln did end up taking Bedell's advice. By the time he was elected president in November, 1860, he sported a formidable beard that, along with his stovepipe hat, would become his trademark. Several months after they exchanged letters, Lincoln met Bedell at a stop in Westfield, New York. Bedell, who died in 1936 at the age of 88, recalled the incident (http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive/pdf?res=F40716F73D5D137B93CBA91783D85F428685F9).
"He climbed down and sat with me on the edge of the platform. 'Grace,' he said, 'look at my whiskers. I've been growing them for you.' Then he kissed me. I never saw him again."
Lincoln was the first (but not the last) president to have a beard in office. Bedell's story was the inspiration for the children's book, "Mr. Lincoln's Whiskers."
While Lincoln's appearance is almost regal in retrospect, at the time, his look was anything but. He was called, "the leanest, lankest, most ungainly mass of legs, arms and hatchet-face ever strung upon a single frame" by at least one publication.In her book "Team of Rivals," author Doris Kearns Goodwin writes that while Lincoln gave a speech to over a thousand people, one observer noticed that "one of the legs of his trousers was up about two inches above his shoe; his hair was disheveled and stuck out like rooster's feathers; his coat was altogether too large for him in the back, his arms much longer than his sleeves."
Kad smo već kod brkova i brade, zaista sam verovao da to ima veze s testosteronima sve dok nisam saznao da su crnci i Azijati kubure sa dlakavošću. Maljavost je kod njih, bar po onome šta piše u udžbenicima antrolopologije, veoma slabo izražena.
U čemu je onda fora? Verovtno u tome što s belci živeli oduvek u hladnijim krajevima planete pa je dlakavost očuvana (od majmunskog perioda) kao zaštitnik od hladnoće. Ali zašto je onda nema kod žena u toj meri? Možda zato to one imaju estrogen da ih greje.
Pa zna se odgovor na to:
Chinpokomon - Large American Penis Pt. 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G30gIjZWKk#noexternalembed)
Jedna od omiljenih mi epizoda south parka :)
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2 die when explosion levels Indianapolis homes (http://www.thetowntalk.com/article/20121111/NEWS/121111008/2-die-when-explosion-levels-Indianapolis-homes)
BAM!!!!
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What the election map would have looked like if only white men could vote Mark Frauenfelder (http://boingboing.net/author/mark_frauenfelder_1) at 10:04 pm Sun, Nov 11
On the lighter side:
QuoteTo the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II:
In light of your failure in recent years to nominate competent candidates for President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately (You should look up 'revocation' in the Oxford English Dictionary).
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except North Dakota, which she does not fancy).
Your new Prime Minister, David Cameron, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections.
Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed.
To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:
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1. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour,' 'favour,' 'labour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix '-ise.' Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up 'vocabulary').
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2. Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as ''like' and 'you know' is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take into account the reinstated letter 'u'' and the elimination of '-ize.'
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3. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.
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4. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting grouse. If you can't sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not ready to shoot grouse.
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5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.
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6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.
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7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.
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8. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.
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9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. South African beer is also acceptable, as they are pound for pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.
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10. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie Macdowell attempt English dialect in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.
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11. You will cease playing American football. There is only one kind of proper football; you call it soccer. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).
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12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America . Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the South Africans first to take the sting out of their deliveries.
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13. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.
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14. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776).
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15. Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups, with saucers, and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus strawberries (with cream) when in season.
God Save the Queen!
To kruži po Internetu od kad je Bush prvi put izabran. :lol:
Nije zgorega podsetiti (ih) s vremena na vreme..
:mrgreen:
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Pitanje je kako odbraniti budžet od odbrambenog budžeta?
Amerika brani demokratiju u čitavom svetu, a ovi ne :?:
Skupo je to branjenje, samo bih voleo da vidim negde podatak koliki je dobitak od te odbrane. Kolko veliki igrači trpaju u džepove?
Ne bi verovao koliki su ti džepovi :evil:
http://gizmodo.com/5959812/john-mcafee-wanted-for-murder (http://gizmodo.com/5959812/john-mcafee-wanted-for-murder)
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Exclusive: John McAfee Wanted for Murder (Updated)
Jeff Wise
Antivirus pioneer John McAfee is on the run from murder charges, Belize police say. According to Marco Vidal, head of the national police force's Gang Suppression Unit, McAfee is a prime suspect in the murder of American expatriate Gregory Faull, who was gunned down Saturday night at his home in San Pedro Town on the island of Ambergris Caye.
Details remain sketchy so far, but residents say that Faull was a well-liked builder who hailed originally from California. The two men had been at odds for some time. Last Wednesday, Faull filed a formal complaint against McAfee with the mayor's office, asserting that McAfee had fired off guns and exhibited "roguish behavior." Their final disagreement apparently involved dogs.
Mogu samo da naslutim, ali ne i da pojmim :mrgreen:
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Jebote, ovaj skandal sa direktorim CIAe je sve sapunskiji:
Jill Kelley and Twin Closely Tied to Top Brass (http://news.yahoo.com/jill-kelley-twin-closely-tied-top-brass-154817043--abc-news-topstories.html)
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The Florida socialite whose report of harassing emails from Paula Broadwell (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AshbqETVL2FkxkYwBiJ2n.y8Cu9_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqMDgxZXM0BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJ2bjVsNGRtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDOGI0Y2QwNGYtN2NhNy0zMjU5LTg1OWMtZGY2NTlmNGE3M2NiBHBzdGNhdANzY2llbmNlfHBldHMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=13kaem4l3/EXP=1354090921/**http%3A//abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/david-petraeus-scandal-alleged-mistress-paula-broadwell-17706020) ultimately led to the resignation of CIA director Gen. David Petraeus forged close ties with top military and intelligence officials in Tampa, hosting lavish parties at her waterfront mansion and earning accolades as an "honorary ambassador" to the military and an honorary consul general for Korea.
But detractors say that Jill Kelley (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AocZneI95Y4biXe8NIzX8_y8Cu9_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaWd2Ymg3BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJ2bjVsNGRtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDOGI0Y2QwNGYtN2NhNy0zMjU5LTg1OWMtZGY2NTlmNGE3M2NiBHBzdGNhdANzY2llbmNlfHBldHMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=14mkv783e/EXP=1354090921/**http%3A//abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/jill-kelley-friend-david-petraeus-received-harassing-emails/story%3Fid=17693092%23.UKKgFqDsZek), 37, is a social climber whose lavish lifestyle is now threatened by millions of dollars in debt and possible foreclosure on her home, and who tried to exploit her connections, perhaps even enlisting Gen. Petraeus in her sister's bitter child custody fight.
Jill Kelley and her twin sister Natalie Khawam grew up in the Philadelphia area, daughters of a Lebanese immigrant couple who owned a local restaurant. Jill and Natalie would appear together on a 2003 episode of a Food Channel program called "Food Fight," in which they dressed in designer clothes while cooking alligator in a cook-off against two brothers.
After Kelley and her husband Scott, a cancer surgeon, moved to Tampa, Khawam came to live with them and their three children in their $1.5 million home on Bayshore Boulevard.
In Tampa, Kelley volunteered her time to support the military, planning and hosting charitable events for CENTCOM, the Defense Department's Central Command, which is based at Tampa's MacDill Air Force Base and has responsibility for directing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Kelley, her husband and her sister Natalie became friendly with major players, including both Gen. Petraeus and Gen. John Allen, commander of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan.
"Jill is known as a gracious host, a vivacious individual," said Aaron Fodiman, editor and publisher of Tampa Bay Magazine.
Kelley's social efforts on behalf of the military earned her the unpaid title of "honorary ambassador" to Coalition Forces in Afghanistan, and she was also named honorary counsel for South Korea.
In a statement, Kelley and her husband Scott said they are close friends with the Petraeus family. The families have spent the holidays together several times over the years and celebrated Christmas together last year, according to Petraeus' daughter Anne's personal blog.
"Our friends from Tampa (the twins Jill and Natalie, plus Jill's husband Scott and their three little girls, as well as Natalie's 2-year-old son John) were in town and came over for an afternoon feast and presents at our place," she wrote in the blog.
"There was no question they were friends," said Fodiman, "and no reason why they wouldn't be friends." See the timeline of the Petraeus/Broadwell affair HERE (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ao1cDBGRbVqq21.aCxW.JZG8Cu9_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaTNjbzlmBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzMEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJ2bjVsNGRtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDOGI0Y2QwNGYtN2NhNy0zMjU5LTg1OWMtZGY2NTlmNGE3M2NiBHBzdGNhdANzY2llbmNlfHBldHMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=13hpfp9s6/EXP=1354090921/**http%3A//abcnews.go.com/Politics/fullpage/sex-spy-petraeus-affair-infographic-timeline-17702062).
This summer when Kelly received anonymous e-mails accusing her of flaunting a friendly relationship with military brass in Tampa, she called the FBI, which traced those e-mails back to the computer of Paula Broadwell, co-author of the Petraeus biography "All In." Investigators are said to have found emails in Broadwell's inbox that pointed to an intimate affair with Petraeus. Petraeus announced his resignation as CIA director on Friday.
After the media spotlight turned from Broadwell to Kelley, questions about Kelley's lifestyle and her ties to the military surfaced. A U.S. official described Kelley as a "nice, bored, rich socialite" who drops "honorary" from her title and tells people she is an ambassador. The personalized license plate of her Mercedes trumpets her status as an honorary consul for the Korean government.
In a 911 tape from this past weekend, Kelley can be heard telling local police that alleged trespassers on her property need to be removed because of her diplomatic status. "I'm an honorary consul general," explains Kelley, "so I have inviolability, so they should not be able to cross my property."
In a statement Tuesday, the U.S. State Department emphasized that Kelley has no official diplomatic role. "She does not work for State," said a spokesman. "She has no affiliation with State."
Kelley and her husband Scott have also had to grapple with financial problems. They have been sued at least nine times. The couple faces foreclosure on their waterfront mansion and on an office building they own. Court records indicate that the Kelleys owe more than $2 million on the office building. The Kelly home also served as the office for a charity she and her husband set up for cancer victims that spent tens of thousands of dollars on travel, meals and entertainment.
The FBI has now uncovered "potentially inappropriate" emails (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AlAyGHQfHA87kzbWHlEVzlq8Cu9_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqc2Fobm1zBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzQEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJ2bjVsNGRtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDOGI0Y2QwNGYtN2NhNy0zMjU5LTg1OWMtZGY2NTlmNGE3M2NiBHBzdGNhdANzY2llbmNlfHBldHMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=149bsvah7/EXP=1354090921/**http%3A//abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-backs-gen-john-allen-probe-connected-petraeus/story%3Fid=17704438%23.UKKzuaDsZek) between Gen. Allen and Kelly, according to a senior U.S. defense official who is traveling with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta. The department is reviewing between 20,000 and 30,000 documents connected to this matter, the official said. The email exchanges between Kelley and Allen took place from 2010 to 2012.
The U.S. official said the emails were "innocuous" and mostly about upcoming dinner parties and seeing him on TV. Allen denies he was involved in an affair, a Pentagon official said. An intermediary for Allen told ABC News that Allen and his wife are friends with Kelley and her husband and most of the emails were sent from Kelley to Allen's wife.
ABC News has learned that Gen. Allen also received an anonymous e-mail traced to Paula Broadwell, claiming Jill Kelley was a seductress.
Kelley's family is standing by her and denying any untoward allegations and insinuations.
"It is a shock," Kelley's brother, David Khawam, told ABC News' Tampa affiliate WFTS. "We are just trying to find out where the pieces are falling right now."
"She is very dedicated to her husband and to her kids," he said. "So, something like this is really pretty much a fluke. So, for anybody to paint her as otherwise is completely wrong."
But Kelley and her sister had apparently grown so close to the high-level military officials that both Petraeus and Allen wrote letters on Khawam's behalf in September as she battled her ex-husband Grayson Wolfe for custody of her son, even as the judge in the custody dispute wrote that Kwaham had "severe psychological deficits."
In November 2011, the D.C. Superior Court had ruled that Khawam's husband would get sole legal and primary custody of the child.
The judge wrote that Khawam "has exhibited an utter disregard for the child's interest" in maintaining a meaningful relationship with his father, that she "has extreme personal deficits in the areas of honesty and integrity," and that she has exhibited a "willingness to say anything, even under oath, to advance her own personal interests at the expense" of her husband, the child, and others. "The court fully expects that Ms. Khawam's pattern of misrepresentations about virtually everything, including the most important aspects of her life, will continue indefinitely," the judge wrote.
It is not currently known if Petraeus or Allen knew about the judge's harsh comments regarding Khawam, but the two wrote letters on Khawam's behalf almost a year later in September 2012.
Petraeus stated that he and his wife had known Khawam for about three years, getting to know her while serving in Tampa, and maintaining their friendship since then.
"We have seen a very loving relationship -- a Mother working hard to provide her son enjoyable, educational, and developmental experiences," Petraeus wrote, according to a copy of the letter posted on Scribd. "Natalie clearly dotes on her son and goes to great lengths--and great expense--to spend quality time with him."
A letter from Allen to the court also painted a portrait of a loving and devoted mother who "places the needs of her son above her own."
Natalie Khawam is also deeply in debt and filed for bankruptcy in Florida in April 2012. In a document filed with the Tampa Division of the U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Khawam cited $350,000 in assets and $3.6 million in liabilities, including $800,000 owed to her sister and brother-in-law. Her listed personal property included six Chanel purses, a Cartier watch, and a trove of diamond jewelry valued at $50,000, including the watch. The items are in the possession of Khawam's ex-husband, according to the court documents.
Khawam has also sued a former employer, Barry Cohen, claiming that Cohen, an attorney, owed her money and failed to take action when she reported sexual harassment. According to the Tampa Bay Times, Cohen wants the court to dismiss the case and fine Khawam $500,000 for a "bad faith" filing.
In 2007, the Kelleys and Khawam founded a charity called the Doctor Kelley Cancer Foundation that was meant to conduct cancer research and grant wishes to terminally ill adults. The charity, which the couple ran out of their home, raised $157,000 and spent $157,000 before going bankrupt. About $135,000 went to travel, entertainment, legal fees, office expenses, "automotive expenses," and utilities.
The Kelley family has hired attorney Abbe Lowell, who represented John Edwards, and crisis manager Judy Smith, who worked for Monica Lewinsky. Also Read (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AgPkHwQ_6v8XQ4qA_P5IZS28Cu9_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqY2dxYjVxBG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzYEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTJ2bjVsNGRtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDOGI0Y2QwNGYtN2NhNy0zMjU5LTg1OWMtZGY2NTlmNGE3M2NiBHBzdGNhdANzY2llbmNlfHBldHMEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=0/SIG=13kio4tas/EXP=1354090921/**http%3A//abcnews.go.com/Blotter/jill-kelley-twin-sister-closely-tied-top-brass/story%3Fid=17707752)
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Izgledaju ko Čavezova familija 8-)
Zapravo su Libanke.
што више материјала за сапунску оперу, то мање питања о томе како се и зашто и по чијем налогу десио бенгази.
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Izgledaju ko Čavezova familija 8)
Ma, jok. Izgledaju kao ona slika sa Palmom, Dačićem i Libankama. Možda su to iste Libanke, samo ih premeštaju sa slike na sliku. :idea:
Lebanke iz Lebane 8-)
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Ne znam da li ikoga zanima kako je Amerika napravila najmanje dva napora u istoriji da pređe na metrički sistem, ali evo jedan komentator sa slešdota objašnjava:
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Back in the 1980s, there was a fun NPR (National Public Radio) article on the non-celebration of the 100th anniversary of the US "going metric". As part of the article, they explained what this really meant.
Actually, there have been two major historic changes in US law that could be called "going metric". The first was in the 1840s, when Congress passed a law saying in effect that no contract could be declared in breach if either party used metric measurements. This effectively made the metric system legal for all commercial and legal purposes. It didn't require the use of metric units, but then, very few countries have ever done that. What typically happens is that the government declares the metric system legal, and most businesses switch to it for convenience in dealing with the rest of the world. In the US, this didn't happen, mostly because the US has long been a relatively isolated "market", with only a few percent of its trade with foreign businesses. So until most suppliers used metric units, it wasn't in a business's interest to do so.
The change in the 1880s was different. What happened then was that the US's standards bureau (NIST nowadays, but it changes its name every few decades) decided it was time to do their periodic update of all measurement standards. Most government standards bodies do this, because their primary reason for existence is to say "If you use the unit X, you must use the following definition, or you'll be legally guilty of fraud". They rarely decree that you must must use unit X; their job is rather to maintain and publish the legal definitions of all units of measurement, typically using the currently best definition that their engineers know of.
In the 1880s, the US's standards bureau decided that the metric system's units, as defined in Paris, had become the highest-precision and most reliable units. So they published a new definition of all American units in terms of metric units. This meant, for example, that the legal definition of the inch in the US became 2.56 cm. That's not an approximation with more digits; it's exact because the standards bureau says so. This meant that the metric system was legally the basis of American units of measurement, and we were officially "on the metric system". It's an "extended" metric system, of course, with both centimeters and inches, grams and ounces, etc., but the metric units became the basic units at that time, and all non-metric units were redefined in metric terms.
And American business continued to use its traditional units of measurement, though they were now all defined as multiples of metric units. Again, there was no reason to convert until all your other related businesses converted.
But the change is happening, slowly. I've found that, with time, it's more and more convenient to use metric tools. I don't buy measuring tapes or rulers unless they have cm and mm markings in addition to those clumsy foot/inch markings. Some recent improvements in our house were mostly done using the metric markings on the tools. And I've noticed that most things sold in hardware stores with "American" units are actually made with metric measurements; the American units are actually just approximations. If you like to tinker with your car, it's been years since you needed any non-metric tools in the US, unless you have a pre-1980 "vintage" car.
What's pushing the change is the fact that American commerce is slowly becoming more and more international. As more things are imported, or have imported components, their measurements are round numbers in metric units and "weird" numbers in American units. And, as others have observed, US schools more and more teach metric first, with the "weird" units an afterthought. This is slowly having the desired effect of pushing the country toward uniformity with the rest of the world.
But, as with England and Canada, we'll probably use feet and miles for a very long time. And we'll still joke about the metric pliers and monkey wrenches.
(One really weird thing is that US businesses still insists on calling these two sets of units "metric" and "standard". The "standard" units are no such thing, of course; they're weird local units that 95% of the world doesn't understand or use. This is basically a relic bit of xenophobia in American business, and it's slowly becoming a joke, too. The American misuse of "standard" is a growing source of humor in many technical circles. ;-)
Evo konacno i jedna pobeda malog(Stevo izdrzi :lol:) coveka.
besmisleni zaplet:City of Orlando threatens man who planted a front yard vegetable garden
http://www.naturalnews.com/037976_vegetable_garden_homeowner_Orlando.html#ixzz2CIKWxm9C (http://www.naturalnews.com/037976_vegetable_garden_homeowner_Orlando.html#ixzz2CIKWxm9C)
pobeda:City of Orlando allows man to keep front yard vegetable garden xcheers
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/City-of-Orlando-allows-man-to-keep-front-yard-vegetable-garden/-/1637132/17394210/-/47ifez/-/index.html (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/City-of-Orlando-allows-man-to-keep-front-yard-vegetable-garden/-/1637132/17394210/-/47ifez/-/index.html)
Evo kako se dešava imaginarna ekonomija
Na englesom
Nearly half of the US threatens to secede (http://rt.com/usa/news/us-secede-petition-government-540/)
i koga mrzi da čita na engleskom:
Građani gotovo polovice saveznih država SAD-a pokrenuli peticije za odcjepljenjem (http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/gradani-gotovo-polovice-saveznih-drzava-sad-a-pokrenuli-peticije-za-odcjepljenjem/)
Barbarine, to mu dođe 1 promil stanovništva.
Ma znam, al svejedno, zanimljivo, ne znam kolko je ostvarivo, u suštini verovatno teško.
Amerika je stvarno na ivici propasti kad ti kreteni još nisu pojmili koncept obeležavanja pružnih prelaza i spuštanja rampi kad voz prolazi!!!
ili, ako rampe nema na datom mestu - pažljivog i brzog prelaza preko!
ovo dole nije čovek da se smeje, al opet - kako se suzdržati?
4 dead, 17 hurt when train hits Texas vets parade
DALLAS (AP) — A freight train slammed into a parade float carrying wounded veterans on Thursday, killing four people and injuring 17 others as the float tried to get through a West Texas railroad crossing on its way to an honorary banquet, authorities said.
The locomotive was sounding its horn and people were jumping off the decorated flatbed truck before the collision around 4:40 p.m. in Midland, according to witnesses and Union Pacific spokesman Tom Lange. A preliminary investigation indicates the crossing gate and lights were working, Lange said, though he didn't know if the train crew saw the float approaching.
Two people died at the scene, while two others died at Midland Memorial Hospital, City of Midland spokesman Ryan Stout said. Seven of those injured are in critical condition, while the 10 others are in stable condition, he said.
About two dozen veterans and their spouses had been sitting in chairs on the float, set up on the back of a flatbed tractor-trailer decorated with American flags and signs identifying each veteran, photos show.
Panic swept through those seated on trailer as the locomotive's horn sounded, said Patricia Howle, who was waiting at a nearby traffic light as the train approached.
"My daughter said, 'Momma, the train is coming!' and she was looking for it as I saw the trailer begin to cross the railroad tracks," Howle told KOSA-TV. "People were jumping off, trying to get off that trailer and the truck was still rolling.
"People on the trailer saw the train coming and they were flying in every direction," she added. "I covered my face. I didn't want to see."
The float was among two flat-bed trucks carrying veterans and their spouses, police said. The first truck safely crossed the railroad tracks, but the second truck's trailer was hit by the train. Police said some of the people on the second trailer were able to evacuate before the crash.
A banner across the truck's front bumper read, "Heroes on Board."
The parade was to end at a "Hunt for Heroes" banquet honoring the veterans. The wounded service members were then going to be treated to a deer-hunting trip this weekend. The events have been canceled. :|
Lange said Union Pacific is offering help to the community and victims' families, as well as peer-to-peer counseling for the train crew, who did not sustain any injuries.
"There is going to be a very thorough investigation," Lange said. "It's obviously a very tragic incident."
The National Transportation Safety Board also is investigating, NTSB spokesman Peter Knudson said.
Midland is about 320 miles west of Dallas.
Паде још један "раптор"! Никако им се не да да поуздано дигну нову машину за убијање и терорисање људи широм света. Толико о "супериорној технологији" и "највећој војној сили" - може само низбрдо и поред бизарног улагања у војску. Тако и треба.
Da ne pominjemo:
Shirtless photo of FBI agent was joke, not flirtation (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/shirtless-photo-fbi-agent-joke-not-flirtation-215244635.html)
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One of the more jarring twists in the unfolding scandal surrounding retired Gen. David Petraeus' affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell—that the FBI agent who kicked off the investigation sent shirtless photos to another player in the controversy, Tampa, Fla., socialite Jill Kelley—has turned out to be a less salacious event than originally reported.
The agent, Frederick Humphries, is a veteran of the FBI who has handled several high-profile terrorist cases and trained with SWAT and Special Forces soldiers. Years before Kelley contacted him about the anonymous emails she was receiving, which led to the discovery of the Petreaus-Broadwell affair, Humphries sent family and friends—including Kelley—a photo of himself between two bare-chested dummies at MacDill Air Force Base.
Noting his likeness to the bald and shirtless dummies, Humphries captioned the photo, "Which one's Fred?" according to the Seattle Times (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019684905_agent15m.html?prmid=4939). Friends have confirmed the email was a joke and noted his general tendency toward this sort of humor; his wife even had the image framed.
Humphries, however, still remains in the middle of the controversy. Though he originally brought the email case to the FBI cybercrime department (the emails were eventually determined to have been sent by Broadwell), he became impatient with the department and took what he knew to U.S. Rep. Dave Reichert. Reichert eventually shared this information with House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, who spoke with the head of the FBI, Robert Mueller. Now, according to the Times, Humphries himself is the subject of an internal FBI investigation.
Evo još nečeg što nije smešno:
Woman asks thieves to return urn with baby's ashes (http://news.yahoo.com/woman-asks-thieves-return-urn-babys-ashes-060535374.html)
QuoteANTIOCH, Calif. (AP) — A Northern California woman whose home was robbed is pleading with the thieves to return just one item: a silver urn that contains her baby's ashes.
The Contra Costa Times (http://bit.ly/QKFRfL (http://bit.ly/QKFRfL)) reports Michiko Koyoi's Antioch home was ransacked Wednesday. Police are investigating the robbery.
Among the missing items is a heart-shaped urn with the ashes of her son who died during birth in January. The boy's name and date of death are inscribed in the urn.
The 35-year-old Koyoi, who has three other children, is urging the robbers to return the urn, saying they can keep everything else.
The baby was diagnosed with Down syndrome and spine problems while in utero. Doctors told Koyoi to end the pregnancy, but she doesn't believe in abortion and carried him for 7 ½ months
A možda je Ou Džej Simpson zaista nedužan?
What if O.J. didn't do it? Film suggests serial killer—not Simpson—murdered Brown, Goldman (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/oj-innocent-glen-rogers-murder-nicole-194119077.html)
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Is O.J. Simpson innocent of murder after all? An explosive new documentary suggests that he is.
In the film "My Brother the Serial Killer (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AtME3SVbHOF.jcoXDBgikACZCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTFka3BkYnE0BG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTMza2YzYXVoBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNmRhN2YyNjktOTgzYS0zNTU4LThkYjktMjRhNzJhYzk5MGMwBHBzdGNhdANibG9nc3x0aGVsb29rb3V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=12nmh3ql5/EXP=1354609298/**http%3A//press.discovery.com/us/id/programs/my-brother-serial-killer/)," set to air Wednesday on the Investigation Discovery network, Clay Rogers, the brother of convicted serial killer Glen Rogers, claims Glen murdered Simpson's ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ron Goldman—the pair Simpson was accused—and controversially acquitted—of slaying in 1995.
Glen Rogers was arrested in November 1995 (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AvOpSb6QxqpJHL4AOq7pS52ZCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTFkZWgzYnZwBG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTMza2YzYXVoBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNmRhN2YyNjktOTgzYS0zNTU4LThkYjktMjRhNzJhYzk5MGMwBHBzdGNhdANibG9nc3x0aGVsb29rb3V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=12ltmd65u/EXP=1354609298/**http%3A//articles.latimes.com/1995-11-14/news/mn-3036_1_glen-rogers)—a month after Simpson was found not guilty—in Kentucky "after leading police on a high-speed chase in a car that belonged to a Florida woman believed to be the third victim in a vicious, cross-country killing spree that began in Van Nuys," Calif., seven weeks before. He was convicted and sentenced to death in both California and Florida and is currently sitting on death row in the Sunshine State, awaiting execution.
According to Clay Rogers, Glen bragged to him about killing more than 70 people. (Glen later said the claim was a joke (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AhAekSR3VtvjxvomTZIOzCuZCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTFkNWJ1MDBuBG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzMEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTMza2YzYXVoBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNmRhN2YyNjktOTgzYS0zNTU4LThkYjktMjRhNzJhYzk5MGMwBHBzdGNhdANibG9nc3x0aGVsb29rb3V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=12vtbgv37/EXP=1354609298/**http%3A//articles.latimes.com/1995-11-20/local/me-5383_1_killings-tells-media).) And Clay says Glen told him he had been "partying" with Brown Simpson prior to her June 12, 1994, killing.
According to the documentary, O.J. Simpson knew Glen—who was working as a house painter near Brown Simpson's Brentwood home at the time of the murders—and had paid him to steal a pair of $20,000 earrings he had given her. According to Clay, Glen boasted he was going to "take her down" and said that O.J. told him to kill "the bitch" if necessary.
The documentary culls new details from interviews with police and family members and appears to rely on a pair of books about Rogers (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AnZdsTAA8EeqEu9JdKN2yHSZCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTFkMmFzbGIwBG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzQEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTMza2YzYXVoBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNmRhN2YyNjktOTgzYS0zNTU4LThkYjktMjRhNzJhYzk5MGMwBHBzdGNhdANibG9nc3x0aGVsb29rb3V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=1366lcemd/EXP=1354609298/**http%3A//www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/mass/glen_rogers/1_index.html): Clifford Linedecker's "Smooth Operator" and Joyce Spizer's "The Cross Country Killer." (Glen Rogers, though, does not appear, nor does Simpson.)
After the murders of Brown Simpson and Goldman, Glen embarked on his cross-country killing spree. Clay turned his brother in after discovering the decomposed corpse of Glen's 73-year-old former roommate at the family's cabin.
"I wasn't turning in my brother," Clay Rogers said. "I was turning in a serial killer."
Following his conviction, Glen admitted to the Goldman-Brown Simpson slayings in interviews from prison, Clay said.
But Fred Goldman, the father of Ron Goldman and a constant figure throughout Simpson's trials, isn't buying it.
"O.J. Simpson murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman," Fred Goldman said in a statement Monday (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AsE2oL0.btc6oRwFT2LUx.WZCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTFkcWhpdTZuBG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzUEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTMza2YzYXVoBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNmRhN2YyNjktOTgzYS0zNTU4LThkYjktMjRhNzJhYzk5MGMwBHBzdGNhdANibG9nc3x0aGVsb29rb3V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=14195lp7c/EXP=1354609298/**http%3A//www.tmz.com/2012/11/19/oj-simpson-nicole-brown-ron-goldman-dad-fred-serial-killer-glen-rogers-murders/). "The criminal trial showed overwhelming and monumental evidence that O.J. Simpson was the killer. There was no contrary evidence other than guess, innuendo, and rumor. The fact of the acquittal at the hands of the jury will never wash away this murder from the hands of O.J. Simpson, no matter how many Glen Rogers pop up on the media radar screen."
In 1997, a jury in Simpson's civil trial found him liable in the death of Goldman and battery of Brown Simpson (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylt=AuGDhcCjQk3i4isvgSLXqfuZCMZ_;_ylu=X3oDMTFkbmlnNzJjBG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzYEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTMza2YzYXVoBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDNmRhN2YyNjktOTgzYS0zNTU4LThkYjktMjRhNzJhYzk5MGMwBHBzdGNhdANibG9nc3x0aGVsb29rb3V0BHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQ--;_ylv=0/SIG=12ijgqs3c/EXP=1354609298/**http%3A//www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/jan-june97/simpson_2-5.html).
In 2006, a book by Simpson—"If I Did It"—was set to be published by HarperCollins' ReganBooks, but the "hypothetical confessional" was subsequently canceled following a public outcry.
In 2007, Simpson was arrested in Las Vegas, charged with armed robbery and kidnapping. In 2008, he was found guilty and sentenced to 33 years in prison in Nevada, where he is currently serving his sentence.
Srećom, mi ovde smo gledali samo par epizoda Ulice Sezam, inače bi ova vest bila traumatična. Znali su mudri urednici naše televizije kako da nas zaštite dvadeset godina kasnije:
Elmo actor Kevin Clash resigns amid sex allegation (http://tv.yahoo.com/news/elmo-actor-kevin-clash-resigns-amid-sex-allegation-162603932.html)
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NEW YORK (AP) — Elmo puppeteer Kevin Clash resigned from "Sesame Street" on Tuesday amid allegations he sexually abused underage boys, bringing an end to a 28-year career in which he turned the furry red monster into one of the most beloved — and lucrative — characters on TV and in toy stores.
"Personal matters have diverted attention away from the important work 'Sesame Street' is doing and I cannot allow it to go on any longer," the 52-year-old performer said in a statement. "I am deeply sorry to be leaving and am looking forward to resolving these personal matters privately."
His departure came as a 24-year-old college student, Cecil Singleton, sued Clash for more than $5 million Tuesday, accusing the actor of engaging in sexual behavior with him when he was 15. Singleton charged that Clash made a habit of trolling gay chat lines for underage boys and meeting them for sex.
It was the second such allegation in just over a week. On Nov. 12, a man in his 20s said he had sex with Clash at age 16. A day later, though, the young man recanted, saying their relationship was adult and consensual.
Clash was a young puppeteer at "Sesame Street" in the mid-1980s when he was assigned a little-used puppet now known as Elmo and turned him into a star, creating his high-pitched voice and child-like personality. Clash also served as the show's senior Muppet coordinator and Muppet captain, winning 23 daytime Emmy awards and one prime-time Emmy.
In a statement, Sesame Workshop said that "the controversy surrounding Kevin's personal life has become a distraction that none of us want," and that Clash had concluded "he can no longer be effective in his job."
"This is a sad day for Sesame Street," the company said.
Clash did not address the new allegations. He said previously that he had an adult and consensual relationship with the first accuser. The divorced father of a grown daughter, he acknowledged that he is gay.
At a news conference Tuesday, Singleton said he and Clash met on a gay chat line when he was 15, and for a two-week period, they had sexual contact but not intercourse. He said he didn't know what Clash did for a living until he was 19 and Googled the man's name.
"I was shocked when I found out what he did for a living," said Singleton, a student in criminal psychology who lives in New York but would not say where he goes to school.
He said he didn't consider speaking up until he heard about last week's accusation.
"I thought I was a unique circumstance," Singleton said. "I did not know that it was something he had done habitually."
Singleton's lawyer, Jeff Herman, said he had been contacted by two other potential victims and expects additional legal action. Sex with a person under 17 is a felony in New York if the perpetrator is 21 or older.
Elmo has been a major moneymaker for Sesame Workshop. By one estimate, Elmo toys account for one-half to two-thirds of the $75 million in annual sales the Sesame Street toy line generates for Hasbro.
Clash became something of a star himself. In 2006, he published an autobiography, "My Life as a Furry Red Monster," and he was the subject of the 2011 documentary "Being Elmo: A Puppeteer's Journey."
Episodes with Clash performing as Elmo will presumably continue well into 2014. Taping of season No. 44 will wrap by mid-December and will begin airing next September, according to someone close to the show who spoke on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to publicly discuss details of its production.
As for who might take over as Elmo, other "Sesame Street" puppeteers have been trained to serve as Clash's stand-in, Sesame Workshop said. "Elmo is bigger than any one person," the company said last week.
On Tuesday, Hasbro echoed that sentiment with its own statement: "We are confident that Elmo will remain an integral part of Sesame Street and that Sesame Street toys will continue to delight children for years to come."
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AP Television Writer David Bauder and AP Retail Writer Mae Anderson contributed to this report.
http://io9.com/5962506/is-this-what-students-in-louisiana-are-learning-about-evolution (http://io9.com/5962506/is-this-what-students-in-louisiana-are-learning-about-evolution)
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Orvel se u grobu prevrće:
A Family's Fight for Freedom: Lawyers Move to Block RFID Expulsion (http://www.infowars.com/preliminary-injunction-sought-in-school-rfid-tracking-badge-case/)
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Melissa Melton
Infowars.com
November 20, 2012
Related: Student Expelled for Refusing Location Tracking RFID Badge (http://www.infowars.com/student-expelled-for-refusing-location-tracking-rfid-badge/)
A Texas school district has come under legal fire after a student was expelled for failure to comply with the "School Locator Project," an RFID chip tracking program currently being piloted in a San Antonio middle and high school.
John Jay High School sophomore Andrea Hernandez was involuntarily withdrawn after protesting her school's tracking badge policy for months. When appeals to respect her rights were repeatedly ignored, the family decided to fight back, seeking legal council.
In a just-released statement, civil liberties organization The Rutherford Institute, which represents the Hernandez family, has announced it will immediately seek a preliminary injunction (https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/on_the_front_lines/texas_school_kicks_student_out_of_magnet_program_for_refusing_to_wear_smart) against the district to prevent Andrea from being moved to another school.
Under the "Smart ID" program, all 4,200 students are forced to wear an ID badge with an RFID tracking chip in it at all times to attend school. Due to her persistent refusal, the school's administration finally offered Andrea a deal; she would comply with the project by wearing a program badge with the chip removed.
Not wanting to endorse the program in any way, Andrea refused. On November 13, the school sent Andrea's father a letter expelling her because "all students are expected to comply with the Smart ID policy."
This case is quickly setting a precedent that students can be kicked out of school for not complying with programs they feel violate their rights.
"I feel it is an invasion of my religious beliefs, I feel that it's the implementation of the Mark of the Beast, I feel that it's an invasion of my privacy and an invasion of all my rights as a citizen," Andrea said at a school RFID protest shown in an Infowars report below.
"What we're teaching kids is that they live in a total surveillance state and if they do not comply, they will be punished," John Whitehead, constitutional attorney and Rutherford founder said in a telephone interview with Infowars. "There has to be a point at which schools have to show valid reasons why they're doing this."
On the district's Student Locator Project website (http://www.nisd.net/studentlocator/), it notes that "Northside ISD is harnessing the power of radio frequency identification technology (RFID) to make schools safer, know where our students are while at school, increase revenues, and provide a general purpose 'smart' ID card." Although the district will pay $500,000 up front for the program, is expects to garner $1.7 million from the state government in increased attendance funds.
The district's website also confirms the "smart" student ID cards are just the newest edition to the school's surveillance grid. A letter to parents (http://www.nisd.net/studentlocator/letters-parents) regarding the Smart ID project's implementation mentions that digital cameras have been installed in all high and middle schools and all school buses. Whitehead noted that the schools have already been fitted with 290 surveillance cameras.
In addition, according to the district, the Smart ID will "provide access to the library and cafeteria" and "allow for the purchase of tickets to the schools' extracurricular activities," meaning students who refuse to comply with the program will not be allowed to access those facilities and activities. The school also makes the ambiguous statement, "Other uses [for the Smart IDs] will be rolled out during the pilot program."
As Infowars previously pointed out, in addition to a vast privacy encroachment, the Hernandez's feel the program is a direct violation of their Christian religious beliefs, as it bears a striking resemblance to Revelations 13: 16-18 warning of the Mark of the Beast:
"16. He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17. and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[a] the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666." (New King James Version)
The Student Locator Card program is set to expand to all 112 schools in the San Antonio Northside Independent School District.
A student's rights should not end simply because they set foot on school property. This big brother takeover in our schools is an alarming trend, as it would appear schools are attempting to condition the youngest members of our society to accept government intrusion into – and control over – their lives.
"Regimes are formulated in the schools. Every dictator – every regime-changer – has always implemented a dictatorship in the schools first," Whitehead said. "The ramifications are really ominous: if you grow up in that environment all your life, it's normal to you. We're moving into a total compliance society."
Texas Students Treated Like Cattle with Mandatory RFID Tags (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSjpphmb094#ws)
Detroit pred bankrotom: "Ako se ne postigne dogovor gradskih vlasti, od grada neće ostati ništa" (http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/detroit-pred-bankrotom-ako-se-ne-postigne-dogovor-gradskih-vlasti-od-grada-nece-ostati-nista/)
Bolje da je otisao lepo u zatvor nego deset godina da ide nedeljim u crkvu i da matutira i da prestane da se drogira i pije. Zatvor je bolji. :idea:
Judge sentences teen convicted of manslaughter to church
Tyler Allred must attend church every Sunday for next 10 years
An Oklahoma teen convicted of manslaughter won't get jail time instead a judge sentenced him to go to church.
A judge presiding over Allred's case sentenced him to attend church every Sunday for the next 10 years. In addition to church attendance Allred must graduate from high school and take drug and alcohol test for the next year.
The teen's attorney does not plan to challenge the sentence.
http://www.koco.com/news/oklahomanews/around-oklahoma/Judge-sentences-teen-convicted-of-manslaughter-to-church/-/12530084/17447690/-/ro03kr/-/index.html (http://www.koco.com/news/oklahomanews/around-oklahoma/Judge-sentences-teen-convicted-of-manslaughter-to-church/-/12530084/17447690/-/ro03kr/-/index.html)
Ovog suca bi trebalo u Hag pod hitno :twisted:
kо да их таквих тамо нема довољно
Ima, ali to bi im barem oborilo plate, zbog povećane ponude.
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Често, кад се код нас дели нешто бесплатно, отвори који хипермаркет или слично, дође до туча, нереда, отимачине. И онда локални празилук кења како тога само код нас има и томе слично. Е, јуче је био тзв. "Црни петак (http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/ci/story/2/%D0%A1%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82/1217162/%D0%9F%D1%83%D1%86%D1%9A%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B0+%D0%B8+%D1%82%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B5+%D0%B7%D0%B0+%22%D0%A6%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B8+%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BA%22.html)". Гуглајте, има фотки и видео снимака на све стране. Рецимо:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/9698835/Black-Friday-2012-fight-in-Walmart-as-shoppers-go-to-war-over-bargain-smartphones.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/9698835/Black-Friday-2012-fight-in-Walmart-as-shoppers-go-to-war-over-bargain-smartphones.html)
Дакле, то су све само... потрошачи. :lol:
Trijumf.
Navlakuša da potroše ljudi što više para.
Nije to sve
http://www.wctv.tv/news/headlines/TPD-Working-Crime-Scene-at-WalMart-180611841.html (http://www.wctv.tv/news/headlines/TPD-Working-Crime-Scene-at-WalMart-180611841.html)
Pobiše se oko mesta za parkiranje.
UPDATE: Two People Shot in Fight Over Wal Mart Parking Space
Two people were shot outside a Tallahassee Wal Mart this afternoon. It brought Black Friday shopping to a terrifying halt.
The shots were fired in front of the store on Apalachee Parkway just after noon.
Just minutes ago, police confirmed the folks were fighting over a parking space.
http://www.nationofchange.org/mississippi-county-jails-kids-school-dress-code-violations-tardiness-doj-alleges-1354033152 (http://www.nationofchange.org/mississippi-county-jails-kids-school-dress-code-violations-tardiness-doj-alleges-1354033152)
Novo robovlasništvo.
US Science Could Face Fiscal Cliff Doom (http://news.discovery.com/earth/science-funding-fiscal-cliff-economy-jobs-121125.html)
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Scientific R&D stands to lose 31,000 jobs and face a starvation diet of reduced funding if politicians fail to halt march towards the fiscal cliff's sequestration of federal funds.
The American science programs that landed the first man on the moon, found cures for deadly diseases and bred crops that feed the world now face the possibility of becoming relics in the story of human progress.
American scientific research and development stands to lose thousands of jobs and face a starvation diet of reduced funding if politicians fail to compromise and halt the United States' march towards the fiscal cliff's sequestration of federal funds (http://news.discovery.com/human/fiscal-cliff-obama-121107.html).
NEWS: What's the Fiscal Cliff? (http://news.discovery.com/human/fiscal-cliff-obama-121107.html)
The Bureau of Labor Statistics (http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes190000.htm) reported 1,082,370 U.S. citizens employed in the life sciences, such as biology and genetics, as well as physical and social sciences. Of these, approximately 31,000 stand to lose their jobs if sequestration takes place, according to a study conducted for the Aerospace Industries Association (http://www.aia-aerospace.org/assets/Fuller_II_Final_Report.pdf) by Steve Fuller, director of the Center for Regional Analysis and professor of public policy at George Mason University.
These potential job losses represent approximately three percent of the total life, physical and social science jobs in the United States.
The possible $56.7 billion cut to the the Department of Defense (DOD) budget may result in 14,982 lost science jobs out of a total 325,693 lost, or 4.6 percent of the total DOD jobs cut, according to Fuller's report. Reducing the budgets of other agencies, such as the U.S. Geological Survey, by $59 billion could result in 15,980 science jobs lost, or 3.8 percent of the 420,529 total non-DOD jobs destroyed.
Unfortunately, the loss of research and development jobs is only the tip of the unemployment iceberg the fiscal cliff could create if scientific progress loses funding.
"The 31,000 figure does not include the indirect job losses, such as subcontractors, suppliers and vendors, or the induced job impacts," Fuller told Discovery News. "Induced jobs are those supported by employee's spending on goods and services, so these are unlikely to be STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Math) type jobs but rather retail, consumer services, education and health, construction and those types of occupations.
"The direct jobs are clearly the immediate losses and encompass most of the STEM-type jobs," said Fuller. "There will be some subcontractor job losses, including some STEM type jobs. For DOD contracts in general, subcontractor jobs are about 26 percent of the total where the direct jobs are about 30 percent. The remaining job losses, 44 percent, are induced."
NEWS: Fiscal Cliff: Just the Facts (http://news.discovery.com/human/fiscal-cliff-unemployment-121113.html)
Job losses would be spread across the nation, but certain states would be hit harder than others. The American Association for the Advancement of Science (http://www.aaas.org/spp/rd/fy2013/SeqBrief.shtml) (AAAS) calculated that California would lose the most research and development funding, with a $11.3 million loss. Maryland, Virginia, Massachusetts and Washington D.C. rounded out the list of top five biggest losers.
"We won't really know where the job losses will be until they happen," said Matthew Hourihan, director of the AAAS R&D Budget and Policy Program, "but it will probably be most acute in those states with the most knowledge-intensive workforces, since most of these are substantial performers of federally funded science."
"Not only would research itself suffer, but the cutbacks would likely have ripple effects into the future, as young scientists and science students would have fewer opportunities," said Hourihan. "So the immediate and direct job losses don't really tell the full story, because you'll also have fewer opportunities for new jobs."
The job losses from the fiscal cliff would be tragic enough by themselves, but the loss would also set America further behind other nations in the race towards scientific and technological leadership. The nation which led the race to the moon could find itself looking up to nations it once left Earthbound.
"Sequestration would be dropping an anchor on the science enterprise, while many others are setting their sails," said Hourihan. "As an example, here are some factoids derived from Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development data: since 1999, the US has increased the research intensity of its economy by 10 percent. Over the same period, research intensity in Israel, Finland, and Germany have grown about twice as fast. In Taiwan, it's grown five times as fast. In South Korea, it's grown six times as fast. In China, the number two funder behind us, it's grown ten times as fast."
NEWS: Obama Hints at New Drive on Climate Change (http://news.discovery.com/earth/obama-to-renew-push-on-climate-change-121108.html)
Although he notes it is impossible to put an exact time line on how far back the fiscal cliff's sequestration would set back American science, Hourihan suggests agencies like the National Institute of Health could be set back by a decade or more.
A scarcity of federal research dollars means organizations will have to say no to more promising research. A report by the American Institute of Biological Sciences (http://www.aibs.org/public-policy/resources/AIBS_Sequestration_Report.pdf) (AIBS) presented figures stating that the National Science Foundation could lose $586 million, which would result in the grant proposal success rate dropping from 22 percent to 16 percent. The National Institutes of Health would likely fund 700 fewer grants as a result of a $2.5 billion cut, which would represent a drop in the proposal success rate from 19 to 14 percent.
"This means that researchers start spending more time writing grants to keep their labs running and their lab personnel employed," said Robert Gropp, director of public policy at the AIBS. "In essence, they start doing less science -- there time is going to preserving funding. This can certainly slow scientific progress."
Gropp noted that the sequestration cuts would come on top of cuts that some agencies have been taking for a number of years. Funding for the U.S. Geological Survey, for example, has been essentially flat for a number of years. So, another deep cut is going to have a significant impact on the agency.
ANALYSIS: Most Americans Favor Action on Climate Change (http://news.discovery.com/earth/americans-want-to-curb-carbon-pollution-121115.html)
New science may be delayed because of the importance of sustaining data monitoring for existing programs, said Gropp. Like the Red Queen in Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking-Glass, it will take all the running scientists can do just to stay in place monitoring the data coming in from existing programs. Cutting funding hamstrings scientists ability to run even faster and move forward.
"I think the federal agencies and the congressional appropriators have worked hard to carefully evaluate scientific research programs," said Gropp. "I think they have made the cuts to programs that were underperforming or of lower priority. I am not sure that there is much more that can be cut without very real and long-term negative ramifications."
Три пријатељице непријатно је изненадио рачун у једном ресторану, не због цене, већ због тога што је на њему писало да је намењен ,,дебелим девојкама". (http://www.rts.rs/page/magazine/ci/story/501/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BC%D1%99%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/1226192/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D1%87%D1%83%D0%BD+%D0%B7%D0%B0+%E2%80%9E%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5+%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%98%D0%BA%D0%B5%E2%80%9C.html)
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rts.rs%2Fupload%2FstoryBoxImageData%2F2012%2F12%2F09%2F11216852%2Fracun%25201.jpg&hash=9ae4b760d587d7a4b81143aeba90575caecc7899)
Ове три су биле непријатно изненађене и увређене јер је на рачуну писало fat girls. :-x
Škola strave: "Koncentracioni logor" za dečake usred SAD
"Dozijerova škola za dečake" u mestu Marijana na Floridi, koja postoji još od 1900. godine, prošle godine je morala da bude zatvorena zbog višedecenijskih pritužbi da su učenici u njoj izloženi fizičkom, psihičkom i seksualnom zlostavljanju. Otkriveno je i "školsko groblje" sa 31 belim krstom, ispod kojih je nađeno 50 grobova, a forenzičari veruju da neobeleženih grobova ima još.
U "školi strave i užasa" do sada je, smatraju naučnici sa Univerziteta Južne Floride u Tampi koji su se uključili u istragu, u periodu između 1911. i 1973. godine preminulo je najmanje 96 dece stare između 6 i 18 godina, kao i dvoje odraslih. Mnoge od ovih smrti i sahrana ne postoje u evidenciji lokalnih organa vlasti.
Žrtava bi, međutim, moglo biti i više, jer istraživači zbog Zakona o privatnosti nemaju pristupa u evidenciju nakon 1960. godine. Osim toga, teren oko škole nije mogao da bude u potpunosti pretražen jer je zarastao u gustu šikaru i korov.
Ovi zastrašujući nalazi - a očekuje se da će ih biti još - pokrenuli su uznemirujuća pitanja o radu ove škole, njenom osoblju i državi koja je to tako dugo tolerisala.
"Dozijer" je, naime, bio državna škola za dečake problematičnog ponašanja, a na redovnom "programu" su, pored teškog fizičkog rada, bila i fizička kažnjavanja. Podrazumevala su batinanje do krvi, koje neki učenici izgleda nisu izdržali.
Pored evidentiranog broja učenika i nastavnika ove škole koji su poginuli u požaru i preminuli prilikom epidmije gripa ili od drugih bolesti, tu je, naime, i priličan broj učenika mahom crne rase koji su naprosto nestali i kojima njihove porodice nikada više nisu uspele da uđu u trag.
Škola je za takve dečake uglavnom tvrdila da su pobegli, ali sada se ispostavlja da su mnogi od ovih pokušaja bega zapravo okočani nasilnom smrću. Na nekima od pronađenih tela vidi se da je smrt nastupila od jakog udarca u glavu, dok je u dva slučaja uzrok smrti ranjavanje vatrenim oružjem.
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/357618/Skola-strave-Koncentracioni-logor-za-decake-usred-SAD (http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/357618/Skola-strave-Koncentracioni-logor-za-decake-usred-SAD)
Branislav Peranović je malo dete...
Naš Peranović je mala beba za njih.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20730717 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20730717)
U Americi nešto opako ne valja...
As many as 27 people have been killed, including many children, in a shooting attack at a primary school in the US state of Connecticut, US media say.
At least 18 children are among the dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, the Associated Press reported.
Earlier, the gunman was reported to have been killed and at least three people were taken to hospital.
A news conference is imminent and the state Governor Dannell Malloy is on his way.
Police arrived at the school soon after 09:40 local time (14:40 GMT), answering reports that a gunman was in the school's main office and one person had "numerous gunshot wounds".
Scores of officers at the scene carried out a full search of the site.
Schools across the district were immediately on lock-down as a preventive measure, officials said.
Meanwhile, the three people who have been taken to hospital are in "very serious condition", Danbury Mayor Mark Boughton told CNN.
'Collecting facts'
One witness speaking to CNN said that shots were heard coming from the hall. There "must have been 100 rounds" fired, she told the channel.
Local media have reported that firefighters instructed children to close their eyes and run past the school's office as they exited the building.
Other sources suggest that some of the shots were fired in a school classroom.
According to CNN, the shooter's body was in one of the school's classrooms.
There were unconfirmed reports of two shooters, according to a report in the local Hartford Courant newspaper.
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With the children now evacuated, aerial images of the school show several emergency vehicles still at the scene and scores of cars surrounding the area.
Teams of officers are on the scene, some with dogs, as a thorough search of the school continues.
A local NBC news channel said that a hospital in nearby Danbury had reported receiving three injured patients.
Several parents are reportedly at the school, standing by and waiting for more information. Officials say they are trying to unite children with their parents.
Sandy Hook School - described by correspondents as a highly rated school - has cancelled its kindergarten class on Friday and will not operate midday bus runs, the school's website says.
The public school has more than 600 students in classes from Kindergarten to 4th Grade - including students aged from five to 10.
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told reporters that US President Barack Obama had been informed of the incident and was receiving regular updates.
On its website, Danbury Hospital said it was aware of a "situation" at the school.
"Please know we're collecting facts now and will be back to you as soon as possible with the most accurate information," the hospital said in a statement.
Terrorists?
Ипак има више настрадалих...код њих ово постаје класика.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/14/us/connecticut-school-shooting/index.html (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/14/us/connecticut-school-shooting/index.html)
Desenzitacija...
Srbizacija 8-)
Amerike
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/21/opinion/gergen-washington-madness/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/21/opinion/gergen-washington-madness/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
Kao i (as well as) Pakistana
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/21/opinion/gergen-washington-madness/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/21/opinion/gergen-washington-madness/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
Ne otvara uvek lepota sva vrata :mrgreen: :
http://www.b92.net/zivot/vesti.php?yyyy=2012&mm=12&dd=22&nav_id=671321 (http://www.b92.net/zivot/vesti.php?yyyy=2012&mm=12&dd=22&nav_id=671321)
A posle kao mi muslimani nazadni jer naše žene nose feredžu iz istih razloga...
E, sad, posle njutaunskog masakra, svi su razumljivo nervozni. Ipak, treba paziti da se ne ode u apsurd. U školi u Nju Džerziju omladinac od 16 leta je u svojoj svesci crtao pištolje - kao što smo svi, slutim radili u to neko doba - ali kada je to primetilo nastavno osoblje, prijavili su ga policiji kao potencijalnu pretnju. Onda je policija njega uhapsila, u kući mu je pronađeno "nekoliko tipova elektronskih uređaja i hemikalija koje bi, izmešane mogle da izazovu eksploziju" i dečko je smešten u pritvor, uz optužbu da je bio u posedu eksplozivne naprave. (http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/12/19/superintendent-drawings-of-weapons-led-to-new-jersey-students-arrest/)
Srećom, policija je uvek korak ispred zločina: razvija se program da se potencijalni spri kileri prepoznaju na osnovu onoga što pišu po Internetu pre nego li počine zlodelo, pa da se onda kontaktiraju i nekako spreče pre nejgoreg (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/police-dept-to-use-internet-to-try-to-stop-shootings.html?_r=0). Naravno, ne vidimo kako bi ovo ikako moglo da bude zloupotrebljeno.
Serija Person of Interest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_Interest_%28TV_series%29) je izgleda napravljena da bi narodu smanjila strah od sveobuhvatne prismotre.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/25/us/new-york-gun-permit-map/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/2012/12/25/us/new-york-gun-permit-map/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn)
US deploying troops to 35 African countries
The United States Army will be deploying troops to nearly three-dozen African nations in the coming year.
Soldiers based out of Fort Riley, Kansas' 2nd Brigade, 1st Infantry Division will begin training in March 2013 in order to prepare for a project that will send troops to as many as 35 African nations, the Associated Press reports.
Citing a growing threat from extremist groups, including those with ties to al-Qaeda, the Department of Defense is hoping to install American soldiers overseas in order to prepare local troops there for any future crises as tensions
escalate.
http://rt.com/usa/news/us-deploying-troops-order-749/ (http://rt.com/usa/news/us-deploying-troops-order-749/)
Al-Kaida( Kina) xrofl xrofl xrofl
Amerikance u Afriku, to je poruka.
opet će da budu african americans.
:|
OBAMA DANCE AFRICA DANCE , DJ KADHAFI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2SVYKIFPVQ#)
http://mashable.com/2013/01/03/teenagers-drugged-milkshakes/ (http://mashable.com/2013/01/03/teenagers-drugged-milkshakes/)
Dobro da nisu upotrebili nešto jače... :evil:
nešto najodvratnije što sam ikad čuo:
grupica američke đubradi u vaguely čovekolikom obliku (inače, fuzbalske zvezde) drogirali jednu devojku, silovali je, zapišavali i ko zna šta sve, vukli je tako obeznanjenu od žurke do žurke celu noć, sve to snimali i slikali, oni i njihovi kompanjoni, kačili na fejsbuk, tviter itd. i na kraju je tako polumrtvu ostavili pred roditeljskom kućom
----a onda, pančlajn: niko u gradiću se ne pretrže da preduzme bilo šta tim povodom jer su ovi, rekoh već, fuzbalske zvezde, pa greota da se ugroze šanse njihovog mesnog tima u natjecanju + njini roditelji su slizani sa šerifom i drugim centrima moći...
o, uskovitlana srži svekolike gnjusi! xuss
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/03/hackers-produce-disturbing-video-evidence-in-ohio-gang-rape-case/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/03/hackers-produce-disturbing-video-evidence-in-ohio-gang-rape-case/)
Bolje to nego fiscal cliff :?:
Пол Керси.
To je to nema dalje. Ludost godine vec na pocetku:
Forget Gratitude: AIG Considers Suing U.S. Over Bailout xrofl xrofl xrofl
...
Swallow for a moment that feeling of outrage swelling in your gut, and consider this: Gratitude doesn't make money.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-08/forget-gratitude-aig-considers-suing-u-dot-s-dot-over-bailout (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-08/forget-gratitude-aig-considers-suing-u-dot-s-dot-over-bailout)
USA'S new advanced uav x47b (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBNNhz53qmk#ws)
Quote from: raindelay on 08-01-2013, 20:03:33
To je to nema dalje. Ludost godine vec na pocetku:
Forget Gratitude: AIG Considers Suing U.S. Over Bailout xrofl xrofl xrofl
...
Swallow for a moment that feeling of outrage swelling in your gut, and consider this: Gratitude doesn't make money.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-08/forget-gratitude-aig-considers-suing-u-dot-s-dot-over-bailout (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-01-08/forget-gratitude-aig-considers-suing-u-dot-s-dot-over-bailout)
Tako je to kad si tu big tu fejl.
Nova pucnjava u američkoj školi:
Student opens fire at California high school, wounding one (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/high-school-shooting-taft-california-183012601.html)
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At least one person was shot when a gunman opened fire at a high school in California on Thursday morning, authorities there say.
The shooting occurred in the science building at Taft Union High School (http://www.taft.k12.ca.us/site/default.aspx?PageID=1) in Taft, Calif., at approximately 9 a.m. local time, a Kern County Sheriff's official told Yahoo News.
The sheriff's official said the suspected shooter—a student at the school—was taken into custody, and a shotgun was recovered at the scene.
One victim, a fellow student, was airlifted to Kern Medical Center in Bakersfield, Calif., with a shotgun wound to the upper right chest, the official said. The official did not comment on his or her condition.
A second person, identified by the official as a teacher at the school, was also injured, but declined medical treatment. The injury does not appear to be related to the shooting itself, the official said.
According to the school's website, "two campus supervisors and a Kern County Sheriff monitor the campus before, during, and after school." The sheriff's official did not know whether the officer was on duty at the time of the shooting.
ABC's Kero-Bakersfield affiliate (http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-news/report-at-least-one-person-shot-at-taft-high-school) said it received calls from students who were hiding in closets inside the school, located about 120 miles north of Los Angeles.
Students were evacuated while sheriff and fire personnel conducted room-to-room searches. The high school was featured in the 1986 film "The Best of Times" starring Robin Williams and Kurt Russell.
The shootings come less than a month after 26 people, including 20 children, were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., in one of the worst school shootings in U.S. history. The massacre led to calls for reforms to the country's gun laws.
On Thursday, Vice President Joe Biden, appointed to lead a task force to reduce U.S. gun violence (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/biden-offer-gun-task-force-recommendations-tuesday-181517450--politics.html), was scheduled to meet with members of the National Rifle Association in Washington to discuss gun control.
Programer zaposlen u američkoj firmi lepo plaćao Kineza da radi njegov posao, a on radno vreme provodio zajebavajući se po Redditu i iBeju. I još dobijao odlične ocene i pohvale na svakom aprejzalu:
Case Study: Pro-active Log Review Might Be A Good Idea (https://securityblog.verizonbusiness.com/2013/01/14/case-study-pro-active-log-review-might-be-a-good-idea/)
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With the New Year having arrived, it's difficult not to reflect back on last year's caseload. While the large-scale data breaches make the headlines and are widely discussed among security professionals, often the small and unknown cases are the ones that are remembered as being the most interesting from the investigators point of view. Every now and again a case comes along that, albeit small, still involves some unique attack vector – some clever and creative way that an attacker victimized an organization. It's the unique one-offs, the ones that are different that often become the most memorable and most talked about amongst the investigators.
Such a case came about in 2012. The scenario was as follows. We received a request from a US-based company asking for our help in understanding some anomalous activity that they were witnessing in their VPN logs. This organization had been slowly moving toward a more telecommuting oriented workforce, and they had therefore started to allow their developers to work from home on certain days. In order to accomplish this, they'd set up a fairly standard VPN concentrator approximately two years prior to our receiving their call. In early May 2012, after reading the 2012 DBIR, their IT security department decided that they should start actively monitoring logs being generated at the VPN concentrator. (As illustrated within our DBIR statistics, continual and pro-active log review happens basically never – only about 8% of breaches in 2011 were discovered by internal log review). So, they began scrutinizing daily VPN connections into their environment. What they found startled and surprised them: an open and active VPN connection from Shenyang, China! As in, this connection was LIVE when they discovered it.
Besides the obvious, this discovery greatly unnerved security personnel for three main reasons:
- They're a U.S. critical infrastructure company, and it was an unauthorized VPN connection from CHINA. The implications were severe and could not be overstated.
- The company implemented two-factor authentication for these VPN connection. The second factor being a rotating token RSA key fob. If this security mechanism had been negotiated by an attacker, again, the implications were alarming.
- The developer whose credentials were being used was sitting at his desk in the office.
Plainly stated, the VPN logs showed him logged in from China, yet the employee is right there, sitting at his desk, staring into his monitor. Shortly after making this discovery, they contacted our group for assistance. Based on what information they had obtained, the company initially suspected some kind of unknown malware that was able route traffic from a trusted internal connection to China, and then back. This was the only way they could intellectually resolve the authentication issue. What other explanation could there be?
Our investigators spent the initial hours with the victim working to facilitate a thorough understanding of their network topology, segmentation, authentication, log collection and correlation and so on. One red flag that was immediately apparent to investigators was that this odd VPN connection from Shenyang was not new by any means. Unfortunately, available VPN logs only went back 6 months, but they showed almost daily connections from Shenyang, and occasionally these connections spanned the entire workday. In other words, not only were the intruders in the company's environment on a frequent basis, but such had been the case for some time.
Central to the investigation was the employee himself, the person whose credentials had been used to initiate and maintain a VPN connection from China.
Employee profile –mid-40's software developer versed in C, C++, perl, java, Ruby, php, python, etc. Relatively long tenure with the company, family man, inoffensive and quiet. Someone you wouldn't look at twice in an elevator. For the sake of case study, let's call him "Bob."
The company's IT personnel were sure that the issue had to do with some kind of zero day malware that was able to initiate VPN connections from Bob's desktop workstation via external proxy and then route that VPN traffic to China, only to be routed back to their concentrator. Yes, it is a bit of a convoluted theory, and like most convoluted theories, an incorrect one.
As just a very basic investigative measure, once investigators acquired a forensic image of Bob's desktop workstation, we worked to carve as many recoverable files out of unallocated disk space as possible. This would help to identify whether there had been malicious software on the system that may have been deleted. It would also serve to illustrate Bob's work habits and potentially reveal anything he inadvertently downloaded onto his system. What we found surprised us – hundreds of .pdf invoices from a third party contractor/developer in (you guessed it) Shenyang, China.
As it turns out, Bob had simply outsourced his own job to a Chinese consulting firm. Bob spent less that one fifth of his six-figure salary for a Chinese firm to do his job for him. Authentication was no problem, he physically FedExed his RSA token to China so that the third-party contractor could log-in under his credentials during the workday. It would appear that he was working an average 9 to 5 work day. Investigators checked his web browsing history, and that told the whole story.
A typical 'work day' for Bob looked like this:
9:00 a.m. – Arrive and surf Reddit for a couple of hours. Watch cat videos
11:30 a.m. – Take lunch
1:00 p.m. – Ebay time.
2:00 – ish p.m Facebook updates – LinkedIn
4:30 p.m. – End of day update e-mail to management.
5:00 p.m. – Go home
Evidence even suggested he had the same scam going across multiple companies in the area. All told, it looked like he earned several hundred thousand dollars a year, and only had to pay the Chinese consulting firm about fifty grand annually. The best part? Investigators had the opportunity to read through his performance reviews while working alongside HR. For the last several years in a row he received excellent remarks. His code was clean, well written, and submitted in a timely fashion. Quarter after quarter, his performance review noted him as the best developer in the building.
Da ne čitam. Svaki dobar kapitalista treba da ima svog Kineza.
Evo koliko su Ameri fejk
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21066354 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21066354)
ovaj barem nije reko 'ako sam ja kriv, i zajednica je kriva', ko onaj 'naš' pop-ubica.
priznao je da je izeo gomna, reko da je pogrešio.
ček da te reči čujemo od nekog grešnog srbina.
ovde se izvinjavaju samo oni koji nisu krivi.
Tamo znaju kad su uhvaćeni, pa cickaju zbog manje kazne, a ovde nisu uhvaćeni dok ne odleže pola robije.
QuoteSAD: Tinejdžer ubio pet osoba
Izvor: Tanjug
Vašington -- Vlasti američke savezne države Novi Meksiko saopštile su da je u jednoj kući petnaestogodišnji tinejdžer iz vatrenog oružja ubio dvoje odraslih i troje dece.
Portparol šerifa okruga Bernaliljo, Eron Vilijams, izjavio je da za sada nisu poznati motivi ubice niti njegova povezanost sa žrtvama, prenela je agencija AP.
Ubijeni su muškarac, žena, dve devojčice i jedan dečak.
Maloletni ubica je uhapšen i biće optužen za ubistvo i zlostavljanje dece sa smrtnim posledicama, rekao je Vilijams.
Inspektori pokušavaju da utvrde ko je bio vlasnik nekoliko komada oružja koji su pronađeni u domu u kojem je počinjeno ubistvo, uključujući i poluautomatsku pušku.
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash3%2Fs480x480%2F73312_3593029802643_1458196117_n.jpg&hash=76f2addacadab550bca5fe7f85d99abd577f8db3)
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash3%2F29544_10151435716183690_1419078774_n.jpg&hash=9d6a49b0c9c1085e78d8ac126dd82b9c2b0030df)
Alex Jones Vs Piers Morgan On Gun Control Live On CNN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWQPZ-taYBs#ws)
Алекса, царе! :|
Обично напишем "Србине", али код нас нема никог ко би дошао код Југослава Ћосића, рецимо, и верглао своје док овај покушава да поставља питања не би ли натерао воду на своју воденицу и називао то дебатом.
Quote from: Petronije on 20-01-2013, 23:52:27
QuoteSAD: Tinejdžer ubio pet osoba
Izvor: Tanjug
Vašington -- Vlasti američke savezne države Novi Meksiko saopštile su da je u jednoj kući petnaestogodišnji tinejdžer iz vatrenog oružja ubio dvoje odraslih i troje dece.
Portparol šerifa okruga Bernaliljo, Eron Vilijams, izjavio je da za sada nisu poznati motivi ubice niti njegova povezanost sa žrtvama, prenela je agencija AP.
Ubijeni su muškarac, žena, dve devojčice i jedan dečak.
Maloletni ubica je uhapšen i biće optužen za ubistvo i zlostavljanje dece sa smrtnim posledicama, rekao je Vilijams.
Inspektori pokušavaju da utvrde ko je bio vlasnik nekoliko komada oružja koji su pronađeni u domu u kojem je počinjeno ubistvo, uključujući i poluautomatsku pušku.
џоне, сад обрати пажњу на последњих 60ак секунди овог коментара (тј око деветог минута) ЦННа везаног за џонсово гостовање код моргана:
"There Will Be Another Mass Shooting In America In The Next Few Months!" Piers Morgan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bflL4_0yBQ#)
на страну што после овог гостовања сам постао веома сумњичав према џонсовим мотивима.
A convicted murderer, who spent time in a hospital for mental illness after he killed his mother, legally obtained a permit and purchased an arsenal of guns because of a loophole in the Minnesota legislation.
Christian Oberender, now 32, killed his mother in the family's home with five shots from a shotgun in 1995, according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune. He was 14-years-old at the time and was eventually committed to a hospital for being mentally ill and dangerous. Despite this, Oberender was able to obtain a gun permit last May and has since amassed an arsenal of 13 guns, including semi-automatic rifles, an AK-47, a Tommy gun, assorted shotguns and a .50-caliber Desert Eagle.
detaljnije:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/21/christian-oberender-convicted-killer-gun-permit-arsenal-weapons_n_2517064.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/21/christian-oberender-convicted-killer-gun-permit-arsenal-weapons_n_2517064.html)
Keva je bila kriva.
I gajila ga 14 godina.
Ma, on je samo igro Fallout i pobrkao realnosti.
Jebote. Ovi Amerikanci su stvarno retardirani. Dakle, nastavnica u školi je pred gubitkom posla. Njen grijeh? Nekoliko njenih učenika je u šali usta prelepilo selotejpom na njenom času, ona ih je slikala i sliku okačila na Fejsbuk uz komentar "najzad sam našla način da ih ućutkam". To je sve.
Eto, kao, je li ovo narušavanje dečije privatnosti...
Teacher Posted Facebook Photo of Students With Duct Tape (http://gma.yahoo.com/teacher-posted-facebook-photo-students-duct-tape-141840410--abc-news-topstories.html)
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An Ohio middle school teacher (http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/ohio-teacher-faces-firing-duct-tape-stunt-18284050) is fighting to keep her job after a photo was seen on her Facebook page showing students of hers with duct tape across their mouths. The Akron school board is considering whether to terminate her.
Melissa Cairns, a middle school math teacher at Buchtel Community Learning Center, has been on unpaid administrative leave after an Akron public schools worker noticed a photo posted on Facebook of a group of students with duct tape across their mouths. The caption on the photo: "Finally found a way to get them to be quiet!!!"
READ: Professor Suspended After Joke About Killing Students on Facebook (http://media.abcnews.com/Business/PersonalFinance/facebook-firings-employees-online-vents-twitter-postings-cost/story?id=9986796)
Jason Haas, president of the Akron Board of Education, said the case raises questions about students' privacy and social media.
"This is the start of my sixth year on the board. In that time, we haven't had a case come before us for potential disciplinary action for posting a picture to social media websites," said Haas. "Has she violated the students' privacy? That's what we're concerned about. Everyone seems to be focused on the duct tape."
Sarah Hollander, communications officer for Akron Public Schools, issued a statement describing the case:
"There were about 15 or 16 middle school students in the class. Eight or nine students put the tape on their mouths. Cairns took a photo and posted it on her personal Facebook page as a joke. The photo wasn't dated, but was likely taken in late September or early October 2012," said Hollander. "Principal Sonya Gordon asked Cairns to take the photo down. She also alerted parents of students in the class."
READ: California First to Endorse Comprehensive Social Media Privacy Law (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/12/california-first-to-endorse-comprehensive-social-media-privacy-law/)
Cairns told ABC News affiliate WEWS-TV in Cleveland that she originally gave one of her students the tape to fix her binder. When the teacher handed the strip of tape to the student, Cairns said, she placed the piece of tape over her mouth and laughed. When the other students saw the girl laughing, they joined in. Next, students asked Cairns to snap a photo.
"Do I think that this one mistake should cost me the last 10 years of all the good I've done? Absolutely not," said Cairns. "When your emotions are involved, that's when you learn things."
On Jan. 22, Cairns requested a hearing take place to determine whether she can keep her job as a math teacher. She is entitled to present her case with a referee present. A date for the hearing has not been set.
Haas told WEWS-TV that "students are protected under federal law and have certain protections." He said, "It would look like that potentially violates those protections."
But will this set a new precedent for the school board? Haas said it's difficult to determine.
"It comes down to how the board feels after the administration presents their case. We've gone with the teacher's side and there's other cases where we've gone with the administration's side," said Haas. "Nothing is cut and dry at all."
On Jan. 14, the seven-member board of education was given criteria to consider whether Cairns should be let go.
The 33-year-old teacher was put on paid administrative leave on Oct. 19. As of Jan. 15, she's been placed on an unpaid administrative leave. On Jan. 16, Cairns received a letter informing her of a possible firing. She was given 10 days to request a hearing before the board or a referee.
"Why was there duct tape in the classroom? How did they [the students] come to have access to it," said Haas. "We'll have these answers to these questions later."
Haas said he believes the hearing will likely be scheduled in late February.
Cairns was hired by Akron Public Schools in August 2007, and first came to Buchtel last August.
Naravno komentari su značajno racionalniji od cele ove situacije. Jedan od njih savršeno sumira/ parodira histerični američki mentalitet:
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The best lines of the entire article:
"Why was there duct tape in the classroom? How did they [the students] come to have access to it," said Haas. "We'll have these answers to these questions later."
Thank God Haas is on the case, but I'd also like answers to the following questions:
Can duct tape hurt my children in the home?
Are my children ever really safe from duct tape?
How can I prevent my children from accessing duct tape at a friend's house if the other parent allows open access to duct tape?
How can I talk to my kids about duct tape? As a parent, what steps can I take to alert my child about duct tape?
What if a stranger offers duct tape to my child?
Are there any programs that offer advice / special protection from duct tape?
If my child is ever accidentally exposed to duct tape, what should I do?
Ta nacija sama sebe čini sve bolesnijom i bolesnijom i još su oduševljeni time.
Nacija se raspada fraktalno. 8-)
nismo ni svesni kolko smo samo srećni što živimo u jednoj ovako zdravoj naciji... dok ameri trule i propadaju, mi cvetamo! xflowy
Na proleće, proradiće drljače i srpske nacije više neće biti. Procvetaće smrduljak.
Ma kad dodje kralj i kaze "ja sam sa vama" sve ce da procveta.
Quote from: Usul on 24-01-2013, 01:30:01
Ma kad dodje kralj i kaze "ja sam sa vama" sve ce da procveta.
more, kad zapovedi, onako rojalno:
ĆUTITE!!!
Zašto pada Apple?
Na Njutna 8-)
Someone Just Leaked Obama's Rules for Assassinating American Citizens (http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/04/someone-just-leaked-obamas-rules-for-ass)
QuoteFor over a year now journalists, civil liberties advocates, and members of Congress have been asking the Obama administration to release internal memoranda from the Office of Legal Counsel justifying Obama'stargeted killing (http://reason.com/tags/drones)program. While the White House continues to deny that such memos exist, NBC is reporting that it has acquired the next best thing: A secretish 16-page white paper from the Department of Justice that was provided to select members of the Senate last June.
Michael Isikoff reports that (http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/04/16843014-exclusive-justice-department-memo-reveals-legal-case-for-drone-strikes-on-americans?lite)
[t]he
16-page memo (http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/020413_DOJ_White_Paper.pdf), a copy of which was obtained by NBC News, provides new details about the legal reasoning behind one of the Obama administration's most secretive and controversial polices: its dramatically increased use of drone strikes against al-Qaida suspects, including those aimed at American citizens, such as the September 2011 strike in Yemen that killed alleged al-Qaida operatives Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan. Both were U.S. citizens who had never been indicted by the U.S. government nor charged with any crimes.
[T]he confidential Justice Department "white paper" introduces a more expansive definition of self-defense or imminent attack than described by Brennan or Holder in their public speeches. It refers, for example, to what it calls a "broader concept of imminence" than actual intelligence about any ongoing plot against the U.S. homeland.
Instead, it says, an "informed, high-level" official of the U.S. government may determine that the targeted American has been "recently" involved in "activities" posing a threat of a violent attack and "there is no evidence suggesting that he has renounced or abandoned such activities." The memo does not define "recently" or "activities."
You can read the full memo below the jump.
Stvarna oružja su okej, ali zato imaginarna...
http://gawker.com/5982118/second-grader-suspended-from-school-for-trying-to-save-the-world-with-an-imaginary-grenade (http://gawker.com/5982118/second-grader-suspended-from-school-for-trying-to-save-the-world-with-an-imaginary-grenade)
To je dobro. Pametni ljudi ne treba da idu u školi 8-)
Ima li kraja ljudskoj gluposti...
Christian Dorner
Heart Attack Grill spokesman dies of apparent heart attack (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/heart-attack-grill-spokesman-dies-apparent-heart-attack-162858075.html)
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A regular patron and unofficial spokesman for the Heart Attack Grill (http://www.heartattackgrill.com/) has died of an apparent heart attack, the restaurant's owner said on Monday.
John Alleman reportedly suffered a heart attack last week outside the Las Vegas restaurant, according to the Las Vegas Sun (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/feb/11/heart-attack-grill-spokesman-dies-heart-attack/). The 52-year-old was taken off life support on Monday.
Alleman, who was not on the restaurant's payroll, inspired the "Patient John" character that appears on the restaurant's menu.
"He lived a very full life," Jon Basso, owner of the Heart Attack Grill, told the newspaper. "He will be missed."
"I told him if you keep eating like this, it's going to kill ya," Basso said (http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/feb/08/death-knocking-door-heart-attack-grills-unofficial/). "He'd say, 'I just love your place, Jon.' He's the only person I know who was probably at the restaurant more than I [was]; he'd be here every darned day."
Alleman is the second unofficial Heart Attack Grill spokesman to die in as many years.
In March 2011, Blair River, the restaurant's 575-pound representative, died from complications stemming from pneumonia. He was 29.
"Cynical people might think this is funny," Basso said at the time of River's death (http://www.azcentral.com/community/chandler/articles/2011/03/03/20110303chandler-heart-attack-grill-spokesman-dies-500-pound-man0303.html). "But people who knew him are crying their eyes out. There is a lot of mourning going on around here. You couldn't have found a better person."
Founded in 2005, the unapologetically unhealthy restaurant employs waitresses dressed as nurses and serves butterfat milkshakes, "flatliner" fries and 9,982-calorie "quadruple bypass burgers." (Patrons who are able to finish them are escorted to their cars in wheelchairs.) Customers who weigh over 350 pounds eat free.
Since opening in Las Vegas in October 2011, there have been various reports of customers having medical emergencies while dining at the grill.
Last February, a man reportedly suffered a heart attack (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-suffers-heart-attack-while-eating-heart-attack-185717972.html) while eating a "triple bypass burger." According to Las Vegas' Fox 5 affiliate, he survived.
Shooting Star across San Francisco 2/15/2013 7:44PM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLpTOc1i8_8#ws)
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000148418&play=1 (http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000148418&play=1)
50-100 kilotona je bila eksplozija nad Čeljabinskom.
Ma ni meteoriti im nisu kao Ruski... :(
Da imaju parče Sibira, kao što priželjkuju, i oni bi imali. :cry:
300 kilotona je bila eksplozija.
A onda, i delfini dođoše da se zahvale na ribicama...
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Thousands-of-Dolphins-Spotted-Near-San-Diego-191455121.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_BAYBrand (http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Thousands-of-Dolphins-Spotted-Near-San-Diego-191455121.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_BAYBrand)
Pennies - Stan's Rants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4x6tDHLarg#ws)
Država Misisipi napokon (i zvanično) zabranila ropstvo! (http://io9.com/5985959/mississippi-officially-bans-slavery-at-last)
(via io9)
Алабама је тек пре десетак година дозволила међурасне бракове. То је та перјаница (мислим на САД) западне цивилизације коју ми, људи отворених очију и бритка ума, називамо Империјом Зла.
amerika, ogrezla u nasilje i tupost, i dalje propada...
ZT (ZERO THOUGHT) IN FLORIDA: A 16-year-old student at Cypress Lake High
School in Ft. Myers, Fla., was riding home on the school bus when a
fellow student pulled out a loaded gun to take out his frustrations on
a third student. "I think he was really going to shoot him right then
and there," the unnamed boy says. "No doubt he was going to shoot him
point blank." He reacted quickly, grabbing the gun and wrestling it
away from the 15-year-old, who is on the school's football team. Two
other students jumped in to help, defusing the deadly situation with no
deaths or injuries. Lee County Sheriff's investigators recovered the
gun and arrested the boy. The school took "emergency" action: Principal
Tracey Perkins suspended all three of the heroes for three days for
being "part of" an "incident" where a weapon was present. (RC/KFTX Ft.
Myers)
...Note to the Lee County Sheriff's Office: how about taking
"emergency" action and giving commendations to the three students?
IN OTHER NEWS, POP-TARTS ARE NOW PART OF THE SCHOOL BREAKFAST PROGRAM:
Josh Welch, 7, has ADHD, and struggles in classes at Park Elementary
School in Brooklyn Park, Md. He was eating a strawberry Pop-Tart when
he noticed it was starting to take on a shape he liked. "All I was
trying to do was turn it into a mountain but, it didn't look like a
mountain really." Before he could improve on the shape his teacher came
over. "She was pretty mad," Josh says, "and I think I was in big
trouble." The problem: the teacher said Josh had bitten the breakfast
treat into the shape of a gun. "It kinda looked like a gun, but it
wasn't," the boy said, demonstrating more intelligence than his
teacher. The second grader was suspended for two days, and school
officials sent a letter home with kids to advise parents that "A
student used food to make an inappropriate gesture." (RC/WBFF
Baltimore)
...Let's all send an appropriate gesture to the school in
3... 2....
DIGGING IN: During a discussion on World War II, a teacher at Heritage
Middle School in Meridian, Idaho, sent a student to retrieve a shovel
from their car. When someone saw the teen walking in the hall, they
thought the shovel was an axe and notified the school's resource
officer. The officer called for a lockdown and notified police, who set
up a perimeter and began looking for the "armed" "assailant." Officials
also began screening security footage, and soon realized that the
eighth grader was carrying a shovel, not an axe. The lockdown ended
without incident, and there are no plans to charge the student or the
teacher. (MS/KTVB Boise)
...See? Common sense does actually work.
Common sense does not actually work. You, usually, have to improvise.
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/bill-oreilly-gay-marriage-compelling-argument-side-homosexuals-135534312.html (http://tv.yahoo.com/news/bill-oreilly-gay-marriage-compelling-argument-side-homosexuals-135534312.html)
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/supreme-courts-gay-marriage-hearing-hollywood-saying-050000223.html (http://tv.yahoo.com/news/supreme-courts-gay-marriage-hearing-hollywood-saying-050000223.html)
Zar onakvu ženu da utamniče? Nesoji!!!!!!!!!!
Former porn star Jenna Jameson arrested after alleged attack at California home (http://news.yahoo.com/former-porn-star-jenna-jameson-arrested-alleged-attack-001600964.html)
QuoteNEWPORT BEACH, Calif. - Police say former adult film star Jenna Jameson has been arrested after a report that she attacked someone at a California home.
Newport Beach police Lt. Evan Sailor says the alleged victim put Jameson under citizen's arrest until police arrived Saturday night.
The 38-year-old Jameson, born Jenna Marie Massoli, was given a court date to face a misdemeanour battery charge and released on her own recognizance.
In May, Jameson was arrested for drunken driving after hitting a light pole. She pleaded guilty in August and was sentenced to three years' informal probation.
Jameson was among the biggest stars in porn when she left the industry in 2008. An email sent to her company seeking comment was not immediately returned.
US delays intercontinental missile test over N. Korea tensions (http://rt.com/news/us-delays-missile-test-449/)
Ето како треба с Империјом Зла. Чим осете тврдо, подвију реп.
Друг Ун би сад требало да лансира једну кад већ Американци не смеју. 8-)
Петогодишњег клинца суспендовали из вртића због мохок фризуре. (http://www.whiotv.com/news/news/local/school-bans-student-from-class-because-of-haircut/nXDXw/) :-x
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.cmgdigital.com%2Fshared%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2013%2F04%2F05%2F69%2Fd7%2FMohawk1.jpg&hash=dc991e8967ce0846d0e3030fdd926b2fba2606af)
А лепо кажу да се другарима свидело и да је био кул фаца, кулерскији него Џастин Бибер.
trevis bikl stajl!
Bitkoin na mukama. Opasnosti neregulisane valute itd.
Bitcoin crashes, losing nearly half of its value in six hours (http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/04/bitcoin-crashes-losing-nearly-half-of-its-value-in-six-hours/)
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Plunge happens on the same day one anonymous redditor made it rain in Bitcoin.
On Wednesday afternoon, the Bitcoin bubble appears to have burst (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-10/bitcoin-tumbles-25-hours). As of this writing, its current value (http://mtgox.com/) is around $160—down from a high of $260 (http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/). (It fell as low as $130 today.) There is no obvious explanation for why the digital currency has fallen so far and so fast, although the market correcting after such a huge rise might be a good explanation. (Update 4:05pm CT: Bitcoin seems to have somewhat recovered and appears to be hovering around $200. Update 6:00pm CT: The exchange rate has fallen back to around $160.)
Some redditors have taken solace in a comment thread entitled "Hold Spartans (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c2n5z/hold_spartans/)."
"This is just the market venting some pressure after these huge gains," wrote anotherblog (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c2n5z/hold_spartans/c9cg43i). "To be honest I'm glad it's happening now. If it recovers, it will demonstrate resilience in the market and give confidence to future buyers and current holders that they don't need to panic sell, reduce the chances of a crash in the future."
Coincidentally, the plunge came several hours after a reddit user by the name of "Bitcoinbillionaire (http://www.reddit.com/user/bitcoinbillionaire)" suddenly, spontaneously decided to give away around $12,000 (more than 63 BTC) worth of the digital currency (https://blockchain.info/address/1Hi9Nuh5pHCC3SkC1gH75k5AMV5hmZgdjd?sort=0). Bitcoinbillionaire rewarded 13 seemingly random redditors, then stopped the whirlwind spree after about eight hours. At the moment, no evidence links the currency's plunge with this random reddit charity.
Bitcoinbillionaire took advantage (http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-bitcoinbillionaire-2013-4) of reddit's Bitcointip (http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcointip) mechanism, which allows users to send each other small amounts of cash (usually less than $5). The mysterious benefactor appears to have given away 20 BTC (now worth slightly less than $4,000) as his or her first gift to one Karelb (http://www.reddit.com/user/karelb). This gift happened under a comment (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c0yi4/i_wish_for_the_price_to_crash/) titled: "I wish for the price to crash." That comment now seems prophetic.
A look at the account transferring all this money (https://blockchain.info/address/1Hi9Nuh5pHCC3SkC1gH75k5AMV5hmZgdjd?sort=0) shows that two hours before the giveaways began, Bitcoinbillionaire received 50 BTC (about $9,500) from another account without an IP address.
Business Insider reported (http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-bitcoinbillionaire-2013-4) that Bitcoinbillionaire has left hints that he or she was an "early adopter," (http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcointip/comments/1c1hp2/a_4680_tip_really/c9c7lm9) and had forgotten he or she even had any bitcoins (http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcointip/comments/1c1hp2/a_4680_tip_really/c9c7opm?context=3). Not much is known beyond that, as Bitcoinbillionaire vanished as suddenly as he or she appeared.
"You've made me change my mind about this whole thing," Bitcoinbillionaire wrote (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c0er1/can_we_get_google_to_add_bitcoins_to_their/c9c5x16?context=3). "I'm done."
Don't feel bad if you missed the action. Business Insider also notes (http://www.businessinsider.com/bitcoin-billionaire-tips-being-passed-on-2013-4) that this pot of cash is now being "paid forward."
U svakom slučaju, priča se da je u toku organizovana serija DDoS napada na Mt.gox kojima se obara vrednost pa špekulanti kupuju dok je jeftino, prdaju kad skoči cena i onda opet započinju DDoS....
Pošteda za Pentagon
Uprkos najavama veće štednje na vojnim izdacima, novi vojni budžet samo jedan odsto manji od starog
Vašington – Iako je svako političko nadvlačenje oko budžeta u Vašingtonu redovan godišnji ritual (koji ovoga puta kasni oko dva meseca), to je istovremeno i ideološka borba za definisanje karaktera američke federalne države u kojoj su dve partije uglavnom bile saglasne oko jednog: da je troškovnik Pentagona ,,sveta krava" koju ne treba mnogo uznemiravati.
,,Sekvester" koji će, ako se u međuvremenu ne postigne drugačiji dogovor, na snazi ostati do kraja ove fiskalne godine (30. septembar), vojnoj kasi je doduše zakinuo 41 milijardu dolara, ali mnogi očekuju da će budžetski dogovor za fiskalnu 2014. koja počinje 1. oktobra to skinuti s dnevnog reda. A Pentagon je pošteđen i u Obaminom budžetskom predlogu koji poziva na umerenu štednju: njegovi izdaci će u godini kada će biti okončano američko povlačenje iz Avganistana biti za samo jedan odsto manji od postojećih.
Kako je izneo državni sekretar za odbranu Čak Hejgel, vojska će u idućoj godini imati na raspolaganju 526,6 milijardi. To je, naravno, i dalje apsolutni svetski rekord, pošto vojni troškovi SAD ostaju veći nego sledećih 10 zemalja sa najvećim izdacima za odbranu uzeti zajedno – Kine, Rusije, Velike Britanije, Francuske, Japana, Indije, Sudijske Arabije, Nemačke, Italije i Južne Koreje. Pri čemu su samo dve zemlje sa ove liste potencijalni američki neprijatelji: Kina i Rusija. Trenutno su američki vojni izdaci 38 odsto ukupnih svetskih.
To se opravdava stavom da su SAD jedina globalna supersila i da njeni potencijali i odgovornosti moraju da budu primereni njenim globalnim obavezama. Da li međutim u ovakvoj srazmeri, pitanje je za debatu.
Prenaduvani budžet Pentagona je naime i rezultat činjenice da je vojnoindustrijski kompleks duboko isprepletan sa ekonomijom i političkim sistemom, zbog čega njegov karakter ne može bitno da se promeni – osim da ovi troškovi rastu. Oružane snage su naime veliki potrošač i njihovi izdaci su nečiji prihodi koji održavaju na stotine hiljada radnih mesta. Protiv odustajanja od nekog projekta, ma koliko bilo očigledno da je preskup i da nije neophodan to uvek pogađa jedan broj kongresmena u čijoj je državi ili izbornoj jedinici liferant tog oružja – počinje intenzivno lobiranje i od njegovog ukidanja se po pravilu odustaje.
Prema Obaminom planu, Pentagon bi u idućih 10 godina ipak morao da uštedi 150 milijardi dolara. ,,Sadašnje fiskalne realnosti zahtevaju da donesemo teške odluke koje su dosad bile odlagane", rekao je tim povodom ministar Hejgel. Koje su to odluke?
Jedna od mera štednje koju će svakako biti najlakše sprovesti jeste smanjivanje broja civila zaposlenih u Pentagonu za pet do šest odsto. Sada ih je ukupno 800.000, a bez posla bi trebalo da ostane njih oko 50.000.
Mnogo teže će ići sa nekim projektima modernizacije vojne opreme. Tako je već odlučeno da se zadržava kontroverzan i jedan od najskupljih u istoriji, program uvođenja u sastav ratne avijacije aviona F-35. Takođe, ostaje plan da se floti pridoda još jedan nosač aviona.
Ono što će ići najteže sa stanovišta politike jeste zatvaranje baza na domaćem terenu. Uprkos tome što su neke sasvim nepotrebne, od njih po pravilu zavisi lokalna ekonomija, a kongresmeni su u takvim slučajevima veoma solidarni, jer svakom već sutra u sličnoj situaciji može zatrebati podrška kolega. Zbog toga će se i ovoga puta taj problem rešavati na način koji svugde garantuje da neće biti rešen: osnivanjem specijalne komisije.
Projekcija troškova za 2014. uzima u obzir da će do njenog kraja biti okončano izvlačenje trupa i opreme iz Avganistana, što je inače logistička noćna mora. Ali se zato predviđa jačanje ratnih potencijala na Dalekom istoku, gde iracionalno ponašanje Severne Koreje ugrožava ključne američke saveznike u tom delu sveta, Južnu Koreju i Japan.
To je razlog za novo odlaganje odluke o smanjivanju brojnog stanja profesionalnih vojnika među marincima i u kopnenoj vojsci.
Najzad, spasonosna formula da se uštedi koja milijarda jeste ograničavanje povećanja plata u Pentagonu na jedan odsto, što bi budžet rasteretilo za 19 milijardi. Dakle, sve promene su takve da se u suštini ništa ne promeni.
http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Posteda-za-Pentagon.lt.html (http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Posteda-za-Pentagon.lt.html)
Baš mi žao ove Amerike.
Majke mi Rusije.
Ta Amerika ko crkve. Ističu neku svoju odgovornost za svet, a nikako da potpišu da su odgovorne svetu.
Дивно је кад у оваквом тексту прочитам "ирационално понашање"... било кога.
Explosions near finish line at Boston Marathon, multiple injuries reported (http://rt.com/usa/finish-line-marathon-boston-908/)
Ајде брзо, опкладе. Кога ће га оптуже, Иран или Северну Кореју? Или неког из Јужне Америке? Неко маскиран у домаће милиције?
ПС Наравно, сами су наместили, као и 9-11, али да се Власи не досете... Нису дуго ратовали, јелте.
Ja kažem da će biti neki lokalni ludak poput Brejvika.
Ne znam dal je bila slika
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dodaj.rs%2Ff%2Fb%2Frz%2F4bI24zL5%2F2013-04-17174043.jpg&hash=2a76223b79859ea6543e84b748cb743e9907215e)
I glede bostonskog maratona
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dodaj.rs%2Ff%2F3D%2Fpr%2F4pi4naCZ%2F532268101514510312906745.jpg&hash=cb480c5bcd7656bf79a043bf200fa7b68d44cf54)
BOSTON BOMBINGS: Hmm...another April massacre. It might be interesting to note that the Oklahoma City bombing occurred this week, the Columbine massacre occurred this week, the Waco tragedy occurred this week, the VA Tech massacre occurred this week. COINCIDENCE?? I think not. The list goes on....The American Revolution began this week, so did the American Civil War, and the Bosnian War. Still think this is coincidence? Add the Rwandan Genocide and the Armenian Genocide to the list. Also, Abraham Lincoln was shot this week. This is just the beginning of the list. Still think this is all crazed conspiracy theory?? Well, before you come to any conclusions, you may want to check out the satanic ritual calendar. The month of April is full of satanic high holy days. This is not mere chance folks. This is not a coincidence. There are very dark powers at work here. We need to be on our knees, crying out to God, warring in prayer against these demonic forces. - Russ Dizdar
Quote from: Barbarin on 17-04-2013, 18:43:16
We need to be on our knees, crying out to God, warring in prayer against these demonic forces.
jeste.
inače, u suprotnom, evo šta sledi:
Woman killed by 4-year-old in Tennessee cookout(CNN) -- A pistol in the hands of a 4-year-old boy went off during a weekend cookout, killing the wife of a Tennessee sheriff's deputy who was showing his guns to a relative, state police said Monday.
No one saw the boy pick up the weapon before the shooting, which occurred Saturday night in Lebanon, east of Nashville, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman Kristin Helm said. The single shot killed 47-year-old Josephine Fanning, the wife of Wilson County Sheriff's Deputy Daniel Fanning.
The couple were hosting family and friends at their house when Daniel Fanning and a relative went into a bedroom to check out some of Fanning's guns, Helm said. Josephine Fanning and the boy walked into the room later, and at some point the boy picked the loaded pistol up off the bed.
Helm said she wasn't sure of the relationship between the boy and the Fannings. The TBI, which investigates incidents involving law enforcement officers, is still conducting its probe, and no charges have been filed.
The gun involved was Fanning's personal weapon, not his service pistol, she said.
Quote from: Father Jape on 16-04-2013, 00:43:56
Ja kažem da će biti neki lokalni ludak poput Brejvika.
Па пошто нема експресне идентификације починилаца као после паљења Рајхстага, убиства Кенедија и Ђинђића и најн-илевена, рекао бих да си у праву и да ће из шешира бити извучен добри стари соло-лудак. Баш читам да су поново извучена и помало заборављена антракс-писма, само сад је неки отров у питању. Дакле, локално стезање диктатуре. Ако.
Ko ima fejs može da vidi ovo, nažalost sa youtuba je skinut vrlo brzo nakon stavljanja
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2970918888111&set=vb.1715924652&type=2 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2970918888111&set=vb.1715924652&type=2)
I KABUMMM u Teksasu
Koliko se ja sećam proizvodnja veštačkog đubriva zna da bude eksplozivna. Ali su i mere bezbednosti usklađene. Ovo je malo mnogo.
Quote from: Barbarin on 18-04-2013, 10:02:38
Ko ima fejs može da vidi ovo, nažalost sa youtuba je skinut vrlo brzo nakon stavljanja
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2970918888111&set=vb.1715924652&type=2 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2970918888111&set=vb.1715924652&type=2)
Nema ovde misterije. Sivi objekat je bio delomično prekriven crvenom tkaninom, i vidi se sivo da štrči. Dok je čovek prolazio ispred objekata crvena tkanina je oduvana u pravcu kretanja čoveka i ostao je samo sivi objekat.
LOL
Quote from: mac on 18-04-2013, 11:41:30
Quote from: Barbarin on 18-04-2013, 10:02:38
Ko ima fejs može da vidi ovo, nažalost sa youtuba je skinut vrlo brzo nakon stavljanja
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2970918888111&set=vb.1715924652&type=2 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=2970918888111&set=vb.1715924652&type=2)
Nema ovde misterije. Sivi objekat je bio delomično prekriven crvenom tkaninom, i vidi se sivo da štrči. Dok je čovek prolazio ispred objekata crvena tkanina je oduvana u pravcu kretanja čoveka i ostao je samo sivi objekat.
Односно био је жут. Тј. мијењао је боју.
Ma crva nije ni bilo xwink2
More Explosions Rock Boston; Gun Battle in the Streets
There have been explosions and reports of hand grenades in Watertown, MA, just outside of Boston, when two men hijacked a car after shooting and killing a MIT Police officer.
At 10:48 this evening, gunshots were heard outside of MIT's Stata building. MIT's student newspaper, The Tech, reported that an MIT police officer had been shot, and taken to Massachusetts General Hospital, where he died.
Suspects then hijacked a car and have engaged police in a confrontation involving guns and explosives in the Watertown area.
There is no indication yet whether the suspects are the ones behind the Boston Marathon bombing on Monday.
http://gawker.com/5995034/active-shooter-incident-at-mit-mit-police-officer-shot (http://gawker.com/5995034/active-shooter-incident-at-mit-mit-police-officer-shot)
Дакле, чечени. Симпатично. Изгубио бих опкладу, на памет ми не би пало. Биланс, кажу, следећи - један руски шиптар мртав, други руски шиптар рањен, али гле како се све лепо скоцкало - у врат па ем није сигурно да ли ће остати жив, ем није сигурно да ли ће после моћи да говори и каже где, ко, како и шта. Јер, наравно, посла нису чиста.
Русија је још пре коју годину упозорила ФБИ (http://gawker.com/5995152/russia-warned-fbi-about-tamerlan-tsarnaev-before-bombing) на то да везе с радикалним исламистима највероватније постоје, али ФБИ наравно није ни прстом мрднуо. Добро, нека се Амери сами баве чињеницом да је тај тзв. "радикални ислам" највећим делом америчко чедо. Рани куче да те уједе (не мислим на најн илевн, то је био инсајд џаб).
Али комедија тек сад почиње, мада не знам хоће ли она два смарача са Comedy Centrala имати муда да се с овим спрдају. Наиме, сад је један сенатор запенио да оног закланог прогласе за enemy combatanta (http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/04/20/send-boston-suspect-tsarnaev-to-gitmo-says-lindsey-graham/), што у пракси значи да га, иако је грађанин САД (мала тривија коју ће, надам се, "анализирати" њу ејџ конспиратолози - један од браће, можда обојица, је добио/ли су држављанство на годишњицу најн-илевна), неће отерати на званичан суд за грађане, већ ће моћи да буде утамничен у америчком концентрационом логору Гвантанамо (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp) а што је још важније, све информације из њега моћи ће да буду извучене не оним вешто замишљеним техникама саслушавања које гледамо по полицијским серијама, већ добрим старим мучењем. (http://ccrjustice.org/learn-more/reports/report%3A-torture-and-cruel,-inhuman,-and-degrading-treatment-prisoners-guantanamo-)
Уколико овај буде могао да прича кроз покидани врат или ако не рикне ових дана.
Brand New TV News Anchor's First Words On-Air: "Fuckin' Shit!"
Tonight was A.J. Clemente's first night at the anchor desk for Bismarck NBC affiliate KFYR. Things did not go well for A.J.
xrofl
http://deadspin.com/brand-new-tv-news-anchors-first-words-on-air-fuckin-476700466 (http://deadspin.com/brand-new-tv-news-anchors-first-words-on-air-fuckin-476700466)
Borba protiv vlasti, nadzornih kamera i brze hrane postaju mentalni poremećaji.
Kontroverzni DSM-5 još nije niti izašao u javnost, a već je uzburkao duhove. Trinaest godina nakon posljednje verzije trebalo je APA-i (Američka asocijacija psihijatara) da izda novi 'Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders' (Dijagnostički i statistički priručnik za mentalne poremećaje) i s brojnim u najmanju ruku čudnim dijagnozama dali su povoda analitičarima da sve prozovu novim korakom u implementaciji tzv. 'Novog svjetskog poretka'.
http://www.dnevno.hr/vijesti/svijet/84049-psihijatrijski-prirucnik-dsm-5-borba-protiv-vlasti-nadzornih-kamera-i-brze-hrane-postaju-mentalni-poremecaji.html (http://www.dnevno.hr/vijesti/svijet/84049-psihijatrijski-prirucnik-dsm-5-borba-protiv-vlasti-nadzornih-kamera-i-brze-hrane-postaju-mentalni-poremecaji.html)
rejnoldse, reaguj!
bostonska nameštaljka - u slikama!
(upozorenje ženama - ima nekolko baš gadnih slika)
http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU (http://imgur.com/a/Nx8EU)
Уосталом, дириговано пласирање података о унапред инсценираним догађајима уопште не мора да буде тако прецизно. Опоненти такозваних "теорија завере" (а заправо теорија интереса) покушавају да представе тзв. "заверенике" као неку бројну хај-тек екипу, где све иде ко под конац, све у секунд, итд. Што је глупост, наравно. Рецимо:
BBC Reports Collapse of WTC Building 7 Early-- TWICE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s#)
На 2:19 појављује се кајрон да је WTC7 пао, а лепо се види да иза репортерке још увек гори. Наравно, овакве ствари остану затрпане у медијској хуци. Сви ти "напади на Америку" заправо су мађионичарски трик и то оне простије варијанте - мађионичар нечим упадљивим скреће пажњу док ради оно што хоће да одради.
Američka retardiranost čoveka ponekad rastuži.
Congress tries to reset science grants, wants every one to be "groundbreaking" (http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/04/congress-tries-to-reset-science-grants-wants-every-one-to-be-groundbreaking/)
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If lawmakers get their way, research like recent Higgs findings could disappear.
Due to Congressional rules, the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology had to choose new leadership this year. At the time, we opined (http://arstechnica.com/staff/2012/10/editorial-meet-a-science-committee-that-doesnt-get-science/) that almost any choice would be a bad one. The Democrats had been neglecting the committee, leaving three seats unfilled, while the Republicans filled their seats with people who were openly hostile to a number of fields of science such as evolution and climate research. Late last year, the House leadership made its intentions clear, attempting to crowdsource a search for federal research grants that people considered wasteful spending (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/12/nsf-youcut-review/).
Now, Congress is following through on that effort. Earlier this month, the House committee held hearings that featured the National Science Foundation (NSF) director and the chair of the board that oversees the science agency. Again, grants made to social scientists were held up as examples (http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2013/04/nsf-peer-review-under-scrutiny-b.html) of wasteful spending. The committee's new chair, Lamar Smith (R-TX), used these to suggest that "[w]e might be able to improve the process by which NSF makes its funding decisions."
Rather than targeting only grants in the social sciences, Smith is reportedly preparing a bill (http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2013/04/us-lawmaker-proposes-new-criteri-1.html?rss=1) that would revise the criteria for all grants funded by the agency. According to ScienceInsider, the bill would require the NSF director to certify that every grant met the following conditions:
- The grant must "advance the national health, prosperity, or welfare, and... secure the national defense by promoting the progress of science"
- It must also be "the finest quality, groundbreaking, and answer questions or solve problems that are of utmost importance to society at large"
- The grant should not be "duplicative of other research projects being funded by the Foundation or other Federal science agencies"
The last of these is a reasonable requirement, but it already exists. Both the NSF and National Institutes of Health have rules that are intended to block new grants that have previously received funding. Mistakes may sometimes get made—it's hard to keep track of who's being paid to do what across multiple federal agencies—but there's already an effort to limit this.
The other two requirements, however, completely misunderstand both basic research and the role of the National Science Foundation. Basic research is largely about exploring the unknown; by definition, it's almost impossible to tell which areas of research will end up being groundbreaking or have commercial applications. And the NSF is specifically tasked with funding basic research and science education.
It's informative to contrast these rules with a current example of NSF funding. Prior to last year, the NSF had no idea whether the Higgs boson really existed or whether it would behave like the one predicted by the Standard Model. Yet the foundation put millions of dollars into the Large Hadron Collider and the support infrastructure behind it. So far, the Higgs is looking rather mundane, and it may never have commercial applications or implications for society at large. The bill, as structured, would appear to mean the end of funding for that kind of work.
This isn't the only recent example of Congress altering the rules for research, either. Last month, Tom Coburn (R-OK) sent a letter to the director of the National Science Foundation, in which he listed a series of grants funded by the agency were a waste of taxpayer money. Shortly thereafter, Coburn added an amendment (http://chronicle.com/article/Senate-Moves-to-Limit-NSF/138027/) to a funding bill that would block the ability of the NSF to fund political science unless the grant can be certified as "promoting national security or the economic interests of the United States." That amendment was passed as part of the budget.
The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has also come under fire from Congress. The House Energy and Commerce Committee is investigating (http://energycommerce.house.gov/press-release/energy-and-commerce-and-appropriations-leaders-examine-reports-excessive-pr-spending-at-nih) the large public communication budget given to the National Cancer Institute, and while they had him on the Hill, House members grilled (http://www.cancerletter.com/articles/20130308_2) NIH director Francis Collins about a paper by researcher Stanton Glantz (http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/early/2013/02/20/tobaccocontrol-2012-050815.full). Glantz studies public health and tobacco regulations, often using documents obtained from cigarette makers during lawsuits. In this paper, he concludes that the political infrastructure that helped organize the Tea Party movement was developed originally to oppose tobacco legislation.
Needless to say, that did not go over well with the members of that organization within Congress.
With the possible exception of the budget allocated to PR and public awareness at the National Cancer Institute, most of these issues come back to an uneasiness about the research itself. People either don't like it or don't understand why peer reviewers rated it so highly, so they assume it is either an error or a waste of money. In this case, their response seems to be to try to intervene in the process of grant approval, something that's normally left to expert peer reviewers.
REJNOLDSE, REAGUJ!
Most Dangerous Book in the World
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache0.bdcdn.net%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fbook%2Fmedium%2F9781%2F9375%2F9781937584177.jpg&hash=b39113963208a5aabd514d895631f41cf637a624)
In this shocking expose, investigative researcher and author S. K. Bain explores the inconsistencies, coincidences, and historical precedents of the events of September 11, 2001, and reconstructs an occult-driven script for a Global Luciferian MegaRitual. Bain argues forcefully that the framework for the entire event was a psychological warfare campaign built upon a deadly foundation of black magick and high technology. The book details a view of the sinister nature of the defining event of the 21st century and opens a window into the vast scope of the machinery of oppression that the author asserts has been constructed around us.
19 injured in New Orleans parade shooting (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/12/us/louisiana-shooting/index.html?iref=allsearch)
Quote from: Ghoul on 07-05-2013, 04:51:43
REJNOLDSE, REAGUJ!
Most Dangerous Book in the World
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcache0.bdcdn.net%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fbook%2Fmedium%2F9781%2F9375%2F9781937584177.jpg&hash=b39113963208a5aabd514d895631f41cf637a624)
In this shocking expose, investigative researcher and author S. K. Bain explores the inconsistencies, coincidences, and historical precedents of the events of September 11, 2001, and reconstructs an occult-driven script for a Global Luciferian MegaRitual. Bain argues forcefully that the framework for the entire event was a psychological warfare campaign built upon a deadly foundation of black magick and high technology. The book details a view of the sinister nature of the defining event of the 21st century and opens a window into the vast scope of the machinery of oppression that the author asserts has been constructed around us.
Луциферијанци! :shock:
А пре неки дан сам се коначно упустио у гледање дугачког документарца с неким наводно совјетским двоструким шпијуном / пребегом / богтепиташта који тврди да је рушење обављено мини-атомским бомбама постављеним још осамдесетих. Најн-илевен постаје буквар за препознавање false flag акција. Ево, на пример, нисам морао ни да стигнем до масовног ритуала и црне магике - довољно је запазити да се "угледни истраживачки новинар" потписује иницијалима.
Breaking: OBAMA IRS SCANDAL WIDENS – Conservative Activists and Businesses Targeted, Too ...Update: 90 IRS Employees Involved (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/breaking-obama-irs-scandal-widens-conservative-activists-and-businesses-targeted-too/)
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It is now clear that the Obama IRS was targeting a much broader array of conservative groups than just Tea Party organizations.
McClatchyDC (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/30/192616/irs-may-have-targeted-conservatives.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_term=news#.UafG02RAQYE#storylink=cpy) reported:
A group of anti-abortion activists in Iowa had to promise the Internal Revenue Service it wouldn't picket in front of Planned Parenthood.
Catherine Engelbrecht's family and business in Texas were audited by the government after her voting-rights group sought tax-exempt status from the IRS.
Retired military veteran Mark Drabik of Nebraska became active in and donated to conservative causes, then found the IRS challenging his church donations.
While the developing scandal over the targeting of conservatives by the tax agency has largely focused to date on its scrutiny of groups with words such as "tea party" or "patriot" in their names, these examples suggest
the government was looking at a broader array of conservative groups and perhaps individuals. Their collective experiences at a minimum could spread skepticism about the fairness of a powerful agency that should be above reproach and at worst could point to a secret political vendetta within the government against conservatives.
UPDATE: Nearly 90 IRS employees (http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/05/31/just-nearly-90-irs-employees-involved-scandal) were involved in the scandal – so far.
OBRATI PAŽNJU!
Texas Says It's OK to Shoot an Escort If She Won't Have Sex With You
A jury in Bexar County, Texas just acquitted Ezekiel Gilbert of charges that he murdered a 23-year-old Craigslist escort—agreeing that because he was attempting to retrieve the $150 he'd paid to Lenora Ivie Frago, who wouldn't have sex with him, his actions were justified.
Gilbert had admitted to shooting Frago in the neck on Christmas Eve 2009, when she accepted $150 from Gilbert and left his home without having sex with him. Frago, who was paralyzed by the shooting, died several months later.
Gilbert's defense argued that the shooting wasn't meant to kill, and that Gilbert's actions were justified, because he believed that sex was included as part of the fee. Texas law allows people "to use deadly force to recover property during a nighttime theft."
The 30-year-old hugged his defense attorneys after the "not guilty" verdict was read by the judge. If convicted, he could have faced life in prison. He thanked God, his lawyers, and the jury for being able to "see what wasn't the truth."
http://gawker.com/texas-says-its-ok-to-shoot-an-escort-if-she-wont-have-511636423 (http://gawker.com/texas-says-its-ok-to-shoot-an-escort-if-she-wont-have-511636423)
Zvuči potpuno bizarno. Očigledno se radi o zakonu koji ti dozvoljava da pucaš na nekoga ko ti u mraku krade auto na parkingu - što je za mene takođe očigledno varvarski - ali eto, američki sud ima veliku slobodu tumačenja. Da ne pominjemo da eskort konvencionalno NE podrazumeva snošaj. Tragično.
PRAVEDNIK KOJI JE RAZOTKRIO SILOVATELJE I NELJUDSKI ŠLJAM MOŽE DA DOBIJE DALEKO VEĆU ĆORKU OD SAMIH ZLIKOVACA - ZATO ŠTO IH JE RAZOTKRIO! :x :P xrotaeye :cry:
Anonymous Hacker Who Outed Steubenville Rapists Facing Longer Jail Time Than Actual Rapists
Deric Lostutter, the hacker who exposed the Steubenville rapists, may end up facing more jail time than the rapists themselves.
In the Steubenville rape case, Deric Lostutter was the hacker who lead the Anonymous Op that exposed the suspects' tweets, videos and Instagram photos that revealed them bragging about the incident, which ended up being crucial pieces of evidence in the case against them.
As a "thank you," Lostutter could face up to 10 years behind bars for his connections to the Internet hactivist collective known as Anonymous.
Mother Jones reports that the FBI quietly raided Lostutter's home over his connection to the Steubenville rape case. Known as "KYAnonymous" online, Lostutter spoke about the raid, his true identity and his motives for the first time in an exclusive interview.
"The goal of the media interviews is to get the entire nation to say 'f*ck you' to these guys," he said.
Among the items collected in the FBI raid were Lostutter's computers and XBox.
The 26-year-old corporate cybersecurity consultant arguably deserves the credit for exposing the Steubenville rape case to the nation, after he obtained and published tweets and Instagram photos showing students joking about the rape of a 16-year-old girl and belittling her. They were convicted in March.
Lostutter didn't get involved in the case until he was contacted on Twitter by Michelle McKee, a friend of an Ohio blogger who sent him the tweets and Instagram photos.
"I was always raised to stick up for people who are getting bullied," he said of choosing to publish the incriminating evidence.
Lostutter says that he wasn't involved in any sort of hacking, having simply published freely-available information from social media accounts given to him. Another Anonymous hacker took credit for hacking the team's Facebook page.
Whether or not he actually did anything illegal, Lostutter was investigated primarily for his ties to the hacker group, though he believes that Steubenville authorities organized the raid.
"They want to make an example of me, saying, 'You don't f*cking come after us. Don't question us."
Steubenville officials have been questioned by other media publications that speculate a cover-up was involved.
If he's convicted, Lostutter could face up to 10 years behind bars, far more than the one- and two-year sentences handed down to the Steubenville rapists. He's currently collecting donations for his defense here, and other Anonymous hackers are spreading the word on Twitter with hashtags like #opFreeKY and #SupportKY.
RT Drop the investigation against Deric Lostutter aka KYAnonymous. wh.gov/lloM5 #SupportKY Help the one that helped Jane Doe
— ✨Nattie✨ (@NattieAnon) June 6, 2013
I donated! | Whistleblower Defense League is collecting donations for Deric Lostutter / KY Anonymous Defense Fund! wepay.com/xxdfqn
— John DeRosa (@johnderosa) June 7, 2013
Regardless of his legal troubles, Lostutter has no regrets. "I'd do it again," he said.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/692028/deric-lostutter-steubenville-hacker-facing-longer-jail-time-than-actual-rapists/#Ivd8uwmFBrXOOy8k.99 (http://www.inquisitr.com/692028/deric-lostutter-steubenville-hacker-facing-longer-jail-time-than-actual-rapists/#Ivd8uwmFBrXOOy8k.99)
Cop Shot Litter of Kittens in Front of Screaming Children
Nonetheless, the police department chief says this cop did nothing wrong.
June 12, 2013 |
On Monday in Ohio, animal control Officer Barry Accorti shot and killed a litter of kittens in front of freaked-out children nearby. "He informed [a witness] that shelters were full and that these cats would be going to kitty heaven," Ohio SPCA Executive Director Teresa Landon told the Sun News.
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Landon said the home owner, who had called for help, assumed the officer "would be trapping them or something and taking them to a shelter and they would be humanely euthanized if they were not adopted."
"Instead, he went to his truck and got a gun, which she thought was a tranquilizer gun, and walked around to the back of the house and approximately 15 feet from her back door shot and killed the 8- to 10-week-old kittens."
The stunned observer alerted the Ohio SPCA to the officer's actions, and the animal rights group responded with a Facebook campaign to "expose" the behavior and call for accountability.
"Her children were upstairs in view of the windows. They started screaming and crying because they heard the gunshots. They started screaming, 'Mommy, he's killing the kittens,'" Landon said, "It's heartbreaking... There is no excuse for it. It's absolutely shameful that someone with the title of humane officer would do this."
North Ridgeville Police Department Chief Mike Freeman released a statementdefending Accorti, who the Ohio SPCA has demanded be fired and charged with animal abuse.
"The cats were located within the wood pile and euthanized," Freeman said, "The cats were removed from the wood pile and taken from the residence."
He decided Accorti's "actions were appropriate," and will not "impose any disciplinary measures for the incident."
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Rape of Iraqi Women by US Forces as Weapon of War: Photos and Data Emerge
In March 2006 four US soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division gang raped a 14 year old Iraqi girl and murdered her and her family —including a 5 year old child. An additional soldier was involved in the cover-up.
One of the killers, Steven Green, was found guilty on May 07, 2009 in the US District Court of Paducah and is now awaiting sentencing.
The leaked Public Affairs Guidance put the 101st media team into a "passive posture" — withholding information where possible. It conceals presence of both child victims, and describes the rape victim, who had just turned 14, as "a young woman".
detalji i slike o ovoj odvratnosti (nije za osetljive):
http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2009/10/03/rape-iraqi-women-us-forces-weapon-war-photos-and-data-emerge (http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2009/10/03/rape-iraqi-women-us-forces-weapon-war-photos-and-data-emerge)
Naravno, ne znamo mi ko je na ovim slikama i da li je to baš tako kako ovde piše, ali je svakako ultradegutantno i ako se pokaže da je sve tako tačno, ko bi mogao da osuđuje razne nacije izvan Amerike što ne žele američke vojnike na svom tlu...
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 14-06-2013, 21:25:20
Naravno, ne znamo mi ko je na ovim slikama i da li je to baš tako kako ovde piše, ali je svakako ultradegutantno i ako se pokaže da je sve tako tačno, ko bi mogao da osuđuje razne nacije izvan Amerike što ne žele američke vojnike na svom tlu...
Мислиш - до сада нема никаквог разлога да их не желе?
Pa, mislim, u okviru tih silnih saradnji, partnerstava za mir, NATO bratstva i jedinstva, tehnički ih žele.
Žele ih zato što su prinuđeni i što moraju pred većom silom popuštati, ili imaju određeni interes. Ne žele ih što ih vole, sigurno.
Ne pričamo o ljubavi. Pričamo o tome da ne bi bilo čudno da, posle ovakvih incidenata vidimo napade na američke vojnike i u prijateljskim/ savezničkim zemljama.
Liz Sidoti iz Aošijetid presa piše o nama, naravno nepoznatom fenomenu da državni činovnici direktno lažu građane:
Column: When lying is acceptable, public loses (http://news.yahoo.com/column-lying-acceptable-public-loses-071350687.html)
QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — A member of Congress asks the director of national intelligence if the National Security Agency collects data on millions of Americans. "No, sir," James Clapper responds. Pressed, he adds a caveat: "Not wittingly."
Then, NSA programs that do precisely that are disclosed.
It turns out that President Barack Obama's intelligence chief lied. Or as he put it last week: "I responded in what I thought was the most truthful or least most untruthful manner, by saying, 'No,' because the program was classified."
The White House stands by him. Press secretary Jay Carney says Obama "certainly believes that Director Clapper has been straight and direct in the answers that he's given." Congress, always adept at performing verbal gymnastics, seems generally unmiffed about Clapper's lack of candor. If there have been repercussions, the public doesn't know about them.
Welcome to the intelligence community, a shadowy network of secrets and lies reserved, apparently, not only for this country's enemies but also for its own citizens.
Sometimes it feels as if the government operates in a parallel universe where lying has no consequences and everyone but the people it represents is complicit in deception. Looking at episodes like this, it's unsurprising that people have lost faith in their elected leaders and the institution of government. This all reinforces what polls show people think: Washington plays by its own rules.
Since when is it acceptable for government — elected leaders or those they appoint — to be directly untruthful to Americans? Do people even care about the deception? Or is this kind of behavior expected these days? After all, most politicians parse words, tell half-truths and omit facts. Some lie outright. It's called spin.
And yet this feels different.
The government quite legitimately keeps loads of secrets from its people for security reasons, with gag orders in effect over top-secret information that adversaries could use against us. But does that authority also give the government permission to lie to its people in the name of their own safety without repercussions? Should Congress simply be accepting those falsehoods?
It wasn't always this way.
Congress was apoplectic when former aides to President Richard Nixon perjured themselves in the Watergate cover-up and when President Bill Clinton was less than truthful during the Monica Lewinsky scandal. But in those cases, the issues divided over partisan lines, and classified information relating to national security wasn't involved.
In this instance, most Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill support the underlying NSA programs even though the public is divided over them. And lawmakers aren't quick to hold Clapper accountable because, when it comes to telling the truth to Americans, their hands are hardly clean.
The public, meanwhile, has responded to Clapper's falsehood with a collective shrug. Are we just resigned to this?
Consider the results of 2012 surveys.
One from the Public Affairs Council found that 57 percent of Americans felt that public officials in Washington had below-average honesty and ethical standards. Another from the Pew Research Center found 54 percent of Americans felt the federal government in Washington was mostly corrupt, while 31 percent rated it mostly honest.
Trust in government has dropped dramatically since the 1950s, when a majority of the country placed faith in it most of the time. But by April 2013, an Associated Press-GfK poll had found just 21 percent feeling that way. And people have even less faith in Congress; a new Gallup poll found just 10 percent of Americans say they have confidence in the House and Senate — the lowest level for any institution on record.
In this case, Ron Wyden of Oregon and Mark Udall of Colorado, Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee, long had tried to raise concerns over the scope and breadth of post-9/11 intelligence gathering.
They were privy to the secret techniques but were barred by law from disclosing any classified information. So they had to be subtle.
Discussion on Capitol Hill about top-secret programs usually takes place in a secure room so opponents of the United States won't learn of the details.
Nevertheless, in March — before the programs the senator knew existed had been disclosed to the world — Wyden put Clapper on the spot. The senator asked about the classified intelligence operations, which Clapper was prohibited from talking openly about, in a public committee hearing.
"Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?" Wyden asked.
"No, sir," Clapper answered.
"It does not?" asked Wyden.
"Not wittingly," Clapper said, offering a more nuanced response. "There are cases where they could, inadvertently perhaps, collect — but not wittingly."
Three months later, a former NSA contractor leaked information on top-secret surveillance programs that do, in fact, file away phone records on millions of Americans. Wittingly.
That, said Udall, "is the type of surveillance I have long said would shock the public if they knew about it."
Within days, Wyden — who says he gave Clapper a heads up a day earlier that he would be asking the question about classified information at an open hearing — accused Clapper of misleading the Senate committee in public and later in private when the intelligence director declined to change his answer from the firm "no" to the question.
"The American people have the right to expect straight answers from the intelligence leadership to the questions asked by their representatives," Wyden said.
Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich., called for Clapper to resign and suggested perjury, saying he "lied under oath to Congress and the American people" and that "Congress can't make informed decisions on intelligence issues when the head of the intelligence community willfully makes false statements."
In interviews, Clapper tried to explain.
To National Journal, he said: "What I said was, the NSA does not voyeuristically pore through U.S. citizens' e-mail. I stand by that." But Clapper didn't tell the committee during the hearing that he was referring specifically to email, though he did indicate his reservations about being questioned in public on confidential matters.
Clapper also told NBC News that "I responded in what I thought was the most truthful, or least untruthful manner." He added that his response technically wasn't false because of semantics over the word "collection." But he also allowed that his response may have been "too cute by half."
Whatever else it does, the episode illuminates a conflict in our system — one that we dance around whenever the subject of secrets comes up.
The Obama administration says it wants the American people to allow the NSA to do what it must to protect the nation. The president himself has assured Americans that Congress has been in the loop, making sure the NSA isn't going too far. But it's hard to see how a real check on that power is possible if Congress is unable or unwilling to provide actual oversight, much less take action when a key official involved in the program isn't straight with lawmakers.
In this case, it nudges accountability further into the shadows — and gives the American public even less of a stake in the security of the open society that we say we hold so dear.
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EDITOR'S NOTE — Liz Sidoti is the national politics editor for The Associated Press. Follow her on Twitter: http://twitter.com/lsidoti (http://twitter.com/lsidoti)
Ništa novo...
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/17/female-inmates-sue-texas-county-for-running-rape-camp-at-jail/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/17/female-inmates-sue-texas-county-for-running-rape-camp-at-jail/)
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Gugl kaže da je zaista nekoliko lampi eksplodiralo u Feniksu. To je bilo pre godinu dana.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us/phoenix-area-rattled-by-booby-trapped-flashlights.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us/phoenix-area-rattled-by-booby-trapped-flashlights.html?_r=0)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/11/flashlight-bombs-phoenix_n_1586072.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/11/flashlight-bombs-phoenix_n_1586072.html)
I pored toliko godina nadanja Amerika i dalje ne propade. Sram je bilo!
Ne dozvoljavaju gluvoj devojčici da u školskom autobusu koristi znakovni jezik, jer time ugrožava bezbednost.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/19/nj-school-board-bans-hearing-impaired-girl-signing/#.UcJw7Q9LJ0A.facebook (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/19/nj-school-board-bans-hearing-impaired-girl-signing/#.UcJw7Q9LJ0A.facebook)
neslavan kraj.
Htela da živi od svetlosti, ali odustala (http://www.b92.net/zdravlje/vesti.php?yyyy=2013&mm=06&nav_id=724393)
Amerikanci prijete muslimanima mecima premazanim svinjetinom
:!: :D xrofl :!: :D xrofl
Bijesni zbog prijedloga za otvaranje islamskog centra blizu (Ground Zero) Nulte tačke u New Yorku, grupa ljubitelja oružja iz Idaha odlučila je uzvratiti mecima premazanim svinjetinom, piše Huffingtonpost.com.
Kompanija South Fork Industries iz Idaha tvrdi da je njihova municija, zvana "Jihawg" odbrambena mjera protiv "onih što čine nasilje u ime islama".
Meci su premazani bojom od svinjetine, kojom kompanija pravi "haram" municiju, i tako želi spriječiti ustrijeljenog muslimana da ode u džennet.
"Sa municijom Jihawg ne ubijete samo islamskog teroristu, takođe ga pošaljete u pakao. To bi mučenicima trebalo dati nešto za razmišljanje", saopćeno je iz kompanije.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM)
Ameri ciče kao guje ljute, ukazuju da što se slobode tiče Kina, Rusija, Kuba, Venecuela itd. nisu uporedivi sa njima!!!!!!!!
Graham on Snowden: 'The freedom trail is not exactly China-Russia-Cuba-Venezuela' (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/snowden-washington-reaction-182004272.html)
QuoteAs the international manhunt for Edward Snowden continues to unfold like a social-media-fueled spy novel—ping-ponging from Hong Kong to Moscow and, perhaps soon, Havana, Caracas and Quito—angry U.S. officials in Washington appeared on the Sunday morning talk-show circuit to talk about the accused National Security Agency leaker-turned-asylum-seeking fugitive.
"I believe he hurt our nation," South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham said on "Fox News Sunday." "He compromised our national security program. The freedom trail is not exactly China-Russia-Cuba-Venezuela, so I hope we'll chase him to the ends of the Earth, bring him to justice and let the Russians know there'll be consequences if they harbor this guy."
"If they want to be part of the world community," Graham added, "want a good relationship with the United States, they should hold this fellow and send him back home for justice."
According to Russian news agencies, Snowden landed in Moscow on a flight from Hong Kong, where he was met by officials from the Ecuadoran embassy. Snowden, who is reportedly staying at an airport hotel, is said to be en route to Ecuador via Cuba and Venezuela.
WikiLeaks, which has been assisting Snowden since he blew the whistle on NSA's surveillance program, said that the former government contractor is "being escorted by diplomats and legal advisers from WikiLeaks." Ricardo Patiño Aroca, Ecuador's foreign minister, confirmed on Twitter that the government theree had indeed "received an asylum request from Edward J. #Snowden."
"Mr. Snowden is delusional," Utah Sen. Mike Lee said. "If he thinks that he's going to find a country with a better human rights record in Moscow or in Havana or in Caracas, and I think he's in for a rude awakening if that's what he's got in mind."
"Every one of those nations is hostile to the United States," Michigan Rep. Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said on NBC's "Meet The Press." "When you think about what he says he wants and what his actions are, it defies logic."
The Obama administration, Rogers said, "should use every legal avenue we have to bring him back to the United States."
And if Snowden "really believes he did something good," Rogers added, "he should get on a plane, come back, and face the consequences of his actions."
"If he cozies up to either the Russian government, the Chinese government, or any of these governments that are perceived still as enemies of ours," Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul said on CNN, "I think that that will be a real problem for him in history."
On CNN's "State of the Union," New York Sen. Charles Schumer placed some of the blame on Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"Putin always seems almost eager to stick a finger in the eye of the United States—whether it is Syria, Iran and now of course with Snowden," Schumer said. "Allies are supposed to treat each other in decent ways."
New York Rep. Peter King agreed, suggesting the United States put diplomatic sanctions on Putin. "We need to keep the pressure on Russia," King said. "We can't let this happen."
"I think it is important for the American people to realize that this guy is a traitor, a defector," King said earlier on Fox News. "He's not a hero."
On CBS' "Face The Nation," California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, said, "I think we need to know exactly what he has. He could have a lot, lot more that may really put people in jeopardy."
On ABC's "This Week With George Stephanopoulos," National Security Agency Director Gen. Keith Alexander said Snowden's leak had done "irreversible and significant damage."
"It's clearly an individual who has betrayed the trust and confidence we had in him," Alexander said. "This is an individual who is not acting, in my opinion, with noble intent."
Ekstra profit je ratni zločin, jer se iz njega finansiraju ratni zločini.
S ovom Amerikom se danas sprda ko stigne:
http://news.yahoo.com/hk-says-us-got-snowdens-middle-name-wrong-064609730.html (http://news.yahoo.com/hk-says-us-got-snowdens-middle-name-wrong-064609730.html)
Quote
HONG KONG (AP) — Hong Kong officials say the U.S. government got National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden's middle name wrong in documents it submitted to back a request for his arrest.
Snowden hid in Hong Kong for several weeks after revealing secret U.S. surveillance programs. Hong Kong allowed him to fly to Moscow on Sunday, saying a U.S. request for his arrest did not fully comply with its requirements.
Justice Secretary Rimsky Yuen said that discrepancies in the paperwork filed by U.S. authorities were to blame, although the U.S. Justice Department denied that Wednesday.
Yuen said Hong Kong immigration records listed Snowden's middle name as Joseph, but the U.S. government used the name James in some documents and referred to him only as Edward J. Snowden in others.
"These three names are not exactly the same, therefore we believed that there was a need to clarify," he said Tuesday.
Yuen said U.S. authorities also did not provide Snowden's passport number.
The decision to let Snowden leave Hong Kong irked the White House, which said it damaged U.S.-Chinese relations. U.S. officials implied that Beijing had a hand in letting Snowden leave Hong Kong, a former British colony that is now a semiautonomous region with its own legal system.
Hong Kong officials have pushed back, stressing that they followed the city's rule of law in processing the U.S. request.
The U.S. Justice Department rejected the notion Hong Kong had required clarification about Snowden's middle name — or that it needed his passport number, saying the U.S. had provided to Hong Kong all that was required under the terms of their extradition treaty.
"The fugitive's photos and videos were widely reported through multiple news outlets. That Hong Kong would ask for more information about his identity demonstrates that it was simply trying to create a pretext for not acting on the provisional arrest request," a spokeswoman said on condition of anonymity under ground rules set by the department.
Yuen said the confusion over Snowden's identification and his passport were among factors that delayed an arrest. He said the government requested clarification from its counterparts in the U.S. on Friday afternoon.
"Up until the moment of Snowden's departure, the very minute, the U.S. Department of Justice did not reply to our request for further information. Therefore, in our legal system, there is no legal basis for the requested provisional arrest warrant," Yuen said. In the absence of such a warrant, the "Hong Kong government has no legal basis for restricting or prohibiting Snowden leaving Hong Kong."
Snowden flew from Hong Kong to Moscow and was expected to seek asylum in Ecuador.
Simon Young, a Hong Kong University professor specializing in criminal law, said that because of the "political sensitivities" involved in the case, authorities had not rushed the case and were taking extra care.
"I think that the Hong Kong government was insisting on a fairly high standard of completeness, and that, I assume, is their practice. They know that our courts will look at these things very closely and they don't take shortcuts," he said.
But he and other legal experts said Hong Kong authorities are typically able to exercise their discretion and use other methods, such as a photo or physical description, to identify fugitives, who often use aliases.
"It's not like he's some mystery figure. He revealed himself on TV," Young said. "The whole world knows what he looks like. So again I didn't see this presenting problems of identification."
a gde vam je pečat? xrofl
sramotno je sto rusi, posebno putin, ocigledno nemaju namjeru postivati opce vrijednosti i nacela kao napredni zapadni svijet. tako se ne ponasaju demokratska drustva.
Nineteen firefighters were killed
while battling a fast-moving wildfire Sunday near Yarnell, Ariz., about 85 miles northwest of Phoenix.
YARNELL, Ariz. — An elite crew of firefighters trained to battle the nation's fiercest wildfires was overtaken by an out-of-control blaze in Arizona, killing 19 members as they tried to protect themselves from the flames under fire-resistant shields.
It was the most firefighters killed battling a wildfire in the U.S. in decades.
The lightning-sparked fire, which spread to at least 2,000 acres amid triple-digit temperatures, also destroyed 200 homes and sent hundreds fleeing from Yarnell, a town of about 700 residents about 85 miles northwest of Phoenix. Residents huddled in shelters and bars, watching their homes burn on TV as flames lit up the night sky in the forest above the town...
http://news.msn.com/us/19-firefighters-killed-battling-arizona-wildfire (http://news.msn.com/us/19-firefighters-killed-battling-arizona-wildfire)
Гледам сад, Амери бре озбиљно апсе због пискарања на "фејсбуку".
Teenager arrested for Facebook post beaten up in prison (http://rt.com/usa/teen-facebook-arrested-prison-628/)
Ово је објављено нешто раније -
Student jailed for three weeks awaiting trial over Facebook posts (http://rt.com/usa/methuen-expletive-facebook-dambrosio-706/)
Фејсбукаши, пазите шта пишете! :lol:
Da, teške bizarnosti. Američka paranoja vezana za terorizam prevazilazi granice apsurda. Evo šta AlfaOmegasSin ima da kaže:
Teenage Gamer May Go to Prison for 8 Years for Violent Joke on League of Legends (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc_4XpbK72o#ws)
San Francisco 777 Crash: Why Did So Many Passengers Evacuate With Bags? (http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngoglia/2013/07/07/san-francisco-777-crash-why-did-so-many-passengers-evacuate-with-bags/)
QuoteWhen seconds can mean the difference between life and death in escaping an aircraft accident, it was startling to see so many photographs from the crash of Asiana Flight 214 at San Francisco International Airport of people carrying out bags, including roll aboards that must have come out of the overhead luggage bins. At least one man interviewed in the New York Times indicated that he grabbed his bags and then his child. In that order. All I can say is that it was very fortunate that the fire was slow to spread.
Oslobodili Cimermana.
http://www.tanjug.rs/novosti/93515/cimerman-oslobodjen-krivice-za-ubistvo-crnog-tinejdzera.htm (http://www.tanjug.rs/novosti/93515/cimerman-oslobodjen-krivice-za-ubistvo-crnog-tinejdzera.htm)
A kad se radi o JEDNOM pucnju upozorenja, u zid (žena pucala kako bi uplašila muža nasilnika), i puca crnkinja, sledi 20 godina robije:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/)
Stvarno propast :(
Ozbiljno se nadam da će ovo biti povod za nove nerede kao one u Los Anđelesu '92.
Ja se nadam da smo odmakli od linčovanja nedužnih kamiondžija, ali masovni protesti su svakako in order. A mogli bi da se i organizovano oglase pripadnici američkog pravosudnog sistema koji misle da je ovo travestija.
uzas. nije smio pucati prije no stu mu decko slomi i drugi nos.
Znači kad nam se ne sviđa odluka suda, onda ćemo da protestujemo?
Quote from: Jevtropijevićka on 15-07-2013, 11:09:14
Ozbiljno se nadam da će ovo biti povod za nove nerede kao one u Los Anđelesu '92.
Ono kad su premlatili onog narkomana što se opirao hapšenju?
Na osnovu onoga što sam čitao rekao bih da je u ovom slučaju tužilaštvo zeznulo stvar, pošto su išli na optužnicu za ubistvo umesto ubistva na mah tj. ubistva iz nehata (manslaughter), što je naravno teže dokazati, dok bi u ovoj drugoj varijanti Cimerman moguće i završio u zatvoru. Doduše, to ne znači da je samo tužilaštvo odgovorno, ali u varijanti u kojoj se na sudu (dakle, ne u skeču Montija Pajtona!) ivičnjak od trotoara na kome je ubijeni stajao prezentuje kao potencijalno oružje, i to tako prođe, nešto definitivno i opasno nije u redu, bilo sa zakonom ili njegovom primenom...
ne sviđa mi se ovo protivameričko raspoloženje koje vlada sagitom. amerika je šampion demokracije.
Quote from: Harvester on 15-07-2013, 17:38:05
Znači kad nam se ne sviđa odluka suda, onda ćemo da protestujemo?
Ne zajebavaj Harvi. Ovo je ruganje i zakonu i pravdi i čovečnosti.
Ili treba nekakvi debeli majmuni iz ,,civilnih straža'' da presuđuju na ulici, tako što će upucati svakoga čija im se faca učini sumnjiva ?
Америка се руга закону, правди и човечности? Ох, ох... Куда иде овај свет? :twisted:
Заправо, хтео сам да напишем - а зашто се ви потресате јер је неки реднек рокнуо неког чамугу и то још у Америци? По чему је ово битна вест да се о њој наниже неколико порука, са згражавањем, позивима на нереде, бригом због нереда, итд?
Zato što je u ljudskoj prirodi da oponaša najuspešnijeg, a kako je Amerika prilika te uspešnosti onda ceo svet na ovaj ili onaj način oponaša Ameriku. Ako u Americi rokaju nedužne prolaznike onda su u opasnosti svi prolaznici na celom svetu.
Ипак је ово нешто за нас мање битно од случаја Ђорђа Зарића, рецимо.
Airheads - Rodney king chant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8fw_rXzDVI#ws)
ŽOHAR JE MLOGO ZGODAN za američke tinejđerke!
Teen girls think Boston bomb suspect is 'too hot' to be a terrorist
http://now.msn.com/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-is-too-handsome-to-be-guilty-of-the-boston-bombings-teen-girls-say (http://now.msn.com/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-is-too-handsome-to-be-guilty-of-the-boston-bombings-teen-girls-say)
"Прилика успешности" :lol: (да не кажем главни стуб Империје Зла) ипак сматра да је океј држати осумњичене у притвору неограниченог трајања. Ако у Америци шаљу на неограничене притворе, онда су у опасности сви притвореници у свету... Али, чекајте! Шешељ је у притвору дуже од десет година! Дођавола, какви пропусти демократских држава којима стремимо! Дођавола!
Obama wins back the right to indefinitely detain under NDAA (http://rt.com/usa/obama-ndaa-appeal-suit-229/)
Pre neki dan je na slešdotu neko napisao nešto u stilu:
"Dakle, pod Bušom - koji je bio "uništitelj ustava" i "pogazitelj ljudskih prava" - su Milošević i Husein uhapšeni, izvedeni na sud i sudilo im se. Pod Obamom, dobitnikom Nobelove nagrade za mir koji je obećao zatvaranje Gitmoa u kome se ljudi drže bez suđenja u bekrajnom pritvoru, smo dobili da se ljudima bez suđenja izriču smrtne presude i izvršavaju pogubljenja UAV-ovima bez obzira na moguće kolateralne žrtve."
Pa sad vi vidite.
http://youtu.be/8nRv2UVDOg0 (http://youtu.be/8nRv2UVDOg0)
Quote"Not until, and unless, the number of white kids die that approximate the numbers of black and other kids who have died will America see it is beyond logic, it is beyond rationality, its about let's get something done," Dyson said.
Мислим да су САД виђене за још један инсценирани терористички напад, рецимо омањом атомском бомбом, па да дефинитивно заврше са фарсом званом "закони", "права" и сличним сметалима и да заведу отворену диктатуру. То би могло бити учињено проглашењем (испоставиће се, трајног) ванредног стања, као што су сад, од почетка "рата против тероризма" (после великог инсценираног терористичког напада) у трајном ратном стању, с тим да се још увек ратује и "ратује" ван граница.
остаје питање лидерства. некако је обама испао мртво пувало, ако не изврше неки полууспешни атентат на њега, чекаћемо следећег (или следећу) председника(цу).
Обмана је одлично одрадио посао, какво црно мртво пувало. Само се оваквих примера антиамериканизма треба што брже решити:
Drone Hunting In Deer Trail, Colorado? Town Considers Bounty For Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/17/drone-hunting-deer-trail-colorado_n_3611806.html)
све што је он урадио урадио је у првом мандату када је и миропомазан. овај други мандат показује да нема довољно велику харизму за даље подухвате, зато и помињем полууспешни атентат пре било каквог великог хепенинга. ако ће он бити 'возило' промене (ах каква дивна иронија) мора поново постати суперстар као 2008-2009.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 18-07-2013, 10:39:46
Pre neki dan je na slešdotu neko napisao nešto u stilu:
"Dakle, pod Bušom - koji je bio "uništitelj ustava" i "pogazitelj ljudskih prava" - su Milošević i Husein uhapšeni, izvedeni na sud i sudilo im se. Pod Obamom, dobitnikom Nobelove nagrade za mir koji je obećao zatvaranje Gitmoa u kome se ljudi drže bez suđenja u bekrajnom pritvoru, smo dobili da se ljudima bez suđenja izriču smrtne presude i izvršavaju pogubljenja UAV-ovima bez obzira na moguće kolateralne žrtve."
Pa sad vi vidite.
Pa ja ne znam ko je normalan verovao da sve to nije predstava i da će se nešto u Americi promeniti. Niko, sem onih babuskara iz Helsinškog odbora i FHMP kod nas, a i one nisu verovale nego su pričale jer su plaćene da pričaju. No, posle Afganistana, Libije i sl, brzo su i one utihnule. Naravno da Amerikom i dalje vlada krupni kapital, u te bajke o slobodi i prvom crnom predsedniku koji će promeniti lice imperije i sveta, ja zaista ne verujem da je iko stariji od 18 godina poverovao.
Quoteja zaista ne verujem da je iko stariji od 8 godina poverovao.
Остало је океј, само сам ово мало поправио.
Quoteon: 29-08-2008, 14:04:17
Jesam li ja jedini kome je strašno amusing što Obama drži govor na godišnjicu čuvenog govora MARTINA LUTERA KINGA i dotični govor drži na stadionu, a posljednji predsednik koji se narodu obratio sa stadiona je DŽON KENEDI
:!:
Gde nestade stari dobri KKK? Čamuga predsednik?
Džimi Karter i dalje zvuči kao ljudsko biće:
'America has no functioning democracy' – Jimmy Carter on NSA (http://rt.com/usa/carter-comment-nsa-snowden-261/)
Quote
Former US President Jimmy Carter lambasted US intelligence methods as undemocratic and described Edward Snowden's NSA leak as "beneficial" for the country.
Carter lashed out at the US political system when the issue of the previously top-secret NSA surveillance program was touched upon at the Atlantic Bridge meeting on Tuesday in Atlanta, Georgia.
"America has no functioning democracy at this moment," Carter said, according to Der Spiegel.
He also believes the spying-scandal is undermining democracy around the world, as people become increasingly suspicious of US internet platforms, such as Google and Facebook. While such mediums have normally been associated with freedom of speech and have recently become a major driving force behind emerging democratic movements, fallout from the NSA spying scandal has dented their credibility.
It's not the first time Carter has criticized US intelligence policies. In a previous interview with
CNN, he said the NSA leaks signified that "the invasion of human rights and American privacy has gone too far." He added that although Snowden violated US law, he may have ultimately done good for the country.
"I think that the secrecy that has been surrounding this invasion of privacy has been excessive, so I think that the bringing of it to the public notice has probably been, in the long term, beneficial."
Jimmy Carter was President of the United States from 1977 to 1981. After leaving office, he founded the Carter Center, an NGO advocating human rights. The ex-president's human rights credentials won him Nobel Peace Prize in 2002.
Carter has frequently criticized his successors in the White House. Last year, he condemned the Obama administration for the use of drone attacks (http://rt.com/usa/carter-article-us-drones-677/) in his article "A Cruel and Unusual Record" published in the New York Times.
Добар је Џими.
http://www.b92.net/zivot/vesti.php?yyyy=2013&mm=07&dd=21&nav_id=734756 (http://www.b92.net/zivot/vesti.php?yyyy=2013&mm=07&dd=21&nav_id=734756)
Šta reći...
Izbacili su bombe, ali ih nisu aktivirali pre izbacivanja. Kao kad baciš ručnu granatu, ali ne otkačiš osigurač. Ne preterano efikasan način da iskoristiš jedno ubojito sredstvo.
Онда је океј.
Quote from: Milosh on 15-07-2013, 17:52:49
Na osnovu onoga što sam čitao rekao bih da je u ovom slučaju tužilaštvo zeznulo stvar, pošto su išli na optužnicu za ubistvo umesto ubistva na mah tj. ubistva iz nehata (manslaughter), što je naravno teže dokazati, dok bi u ovoj drugoj varijanti Cimerman moguće i završio u zatvoru. Doduše, to ne znači da je samo tužilaštvo odgovorno, ali u varijanti u kojoj se na sudu (dakle, ne u skeču Montija Pajtona!) ivičnjak od trotoara na kome je ubijeni stajao prezentuje kao potencijalno oružje, i to tako prođe, nešto definitivno i opasno nije u redu, bilo sa zakonom ili njegovom primenom...
hm, pa sta da se ocekuje kad imas 6 belih i jednu 1/2 hispanjolku u poroti. horor slucaj, ko iz nazi nemacke tridesetih.
sto se tice demonstracija, videh dvoje (2) crnaca s plakatima juce kod liberty bella i to bi bilo sve sto sam videla.
a na tv-u propaganda gora nego ikad u slobino doba.
siromastvo cim izadjes iz belackih getoa, al vazno je ukinuti abortus.
jbt.
Američka pošta, pošto grca u gubicima (16 milijardi američkih evra prošle godine, kažu velikim delom jer, oh, prokleti zaposleni u toj službi imaju skupe polise zdravstvenog osiguranja), rešila da uštedi pare tako što će - prestati da isporučuje pošiljke na kućne adrese.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/23/usa-postal-delivery-idUSL1N0FT14T20130723 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/23/usa-postal-delivery-idUSL1N0FT14T20130723)
Pa, da, privatizacija svega je rešenje.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 26-07-2013, 10:43:27
Pa, da, privatizacija svega je rešenje.
Koješta. Occupy Wall street je rešenje. Vek i po kenjaju da je trgovina u korenu, a sad je bankarenje onesposobilo i trgovinu. Rešenje je revolucija!
Ali, vidimo i koliko je Occupy pokret rešio stvar... Dakle, možda je potrebna neka malo usmerenija revolucija...
Kao Dinkić. Pokolješ domaće banke i dugovi nestaju. Banke moraju da postanu zavisne ili nestanu. Svi problemi trgovine, privrede i država su zbog banaka.
Navodno, američko-ruski odnosi se pogoršavaju zbog Snoudena (http://news.yahoo.com/svidaniya-russia-084500650.html).
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 26-07-2013, 13:20:20
Navodno, američko-ruski odnosi se pogoršavaju zbog Snoudena (http://news.yahoo.com/svidaniya-russia-084500650.html).
obraca mi se bog vise puta dnevno, a skrenuo mi paznju na to prije dvije godine.
Da ne ispadne da samo kod nas vaćaroši sede na čelu prestižnih institucija, žena koja je sedamnaest godina na mestu predsednika i izvršnog organa američke Akademije nauka i umetnosti podnosi ostavku jer tvrde da je slagala da ima doktorat:
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/07/25/embattled-head-american-academy-arts-and-sciences-resigns-after-questions-about-resume/ffetbVpxdu7OesQrIUW13K/story.html (http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/07/25/embattled-head-american-academy-arts-and-sciences-resigns-after-questions-about-resume/ffetbVpxdu7OesQrIUW13K/story.html)
QuoteThe controversial chief executive of the prestigious American Academy of Arts and Sciences has agreed to resign on July 31 following reports that she embellished her resume, the institution announced today. She will receive a one-time payment of $475,000 for retirement and other benefits, according to an academy statement, but no severance payment.
Leslie Cohen Berlowitz, who has overseen the 233-year-old Cambridge honorary society for the past 17 years, had been on paid leave from the academy for more than a month after the Globe reported that she falsely claimed a doctorate from New York University and misstated her work history in federal grant applications and other documents over the past decade.
Berlowitz also came under fire for regularly berating staffers, micromanaging the academy's affairs, barring scholars from viewing the academy's historic archives, and receiving an outsized pay package -- more than $598,000 in fiscal year 2012 alone for an organization with only a few dozen staffers, several times what her peers were paid. Investigators were also examining whether the academy fully reported all her executive perks on its tax returns, such as catered meals, first-class travel, and chauffeured transit to her home.
The institution said Berlowitz will continue to receive her salary through next week and receive the one-time payment for retirement benefits she is owed under her contract, unused vacation time and other deferred compensation. She will also receive supplemental health insurance for five years.
"The agreement does not call for any severance payment," academy chairman Louis W. Cabot said in a letter to members. "The agreement has been reviewed by independent legal counsel, and the Board has determined that this agreement is in the Academy's best interest."
The academy also said it is launching a search for a new chief executive and the board has appointed a special committee to examine its executive compensation practices.
The controversy has attracted national attention because of the academy's prestige. Founded by John Adams and other Harvard College graduates during the Revolutionary War, the academy conducts research, holds lectures for members, and annually elects scores of the brightest scholars, artists and leaders every year. Its membership currently includes 50 Nobel laureates and 60 Pulitzer Prize winners.
But academics typically have little tolerance for people exaggerating their educational credentials. Marilee Jones, a popular admissions dean at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, left in disgrace in 2007 after she falsified her degrees. And Doug Lynch, a vice dean at the University of Pennsylvania, resigned last year after revelations that he falsely claimed to have a doctorate from Columbia University.Todd Wallack can be reached at twallack@globe.com. Follow him on Twitter @twallack (http://twitter.com/twallack).
Седамнаест година председница, а слагала за докторат? Па то само у Србији има, нисмо ми за Европу, ко последњи изађе нек угаси светло... Упс, тема о Америци. Sorry.
Opet neke masonske loze zaratile izmedju sebe... :lol:
Dokle god je tako dobro je...najebasmo kad se sve udruze u jednu ....
Meni je trenutno najveći trn u oku način kreditiranja u USA. Ne znam kako je u Srbiji, al kad u Austriji uzmeš kredit na stan na 30 godina i hoćeš za 5 godina da ga otplatiš, plaćaš takve penale da ti se to prosto ne isplati. U USA toga nema. Ako imaš cash u nekom momentu, plaćaš samo glavnicu i kraj. E sad, kako to može u Imperiji a ne može u Evropi, to mi je jasno al me nervira. :lol:
Banka uračunava rizik da kredit ne može da se otplati, i taj rizik raspodeljuje na rate. Ako neko hoće sve da otplati onda mora da otplati i taj rizični deo u celosti. Ameri nekako nemaju koncept rizika.
Al sama ta logika je prilično sumanuta.
Ali ne otplaćuju se svi krediti. Po nekad neko nema para, i onda banka mora da se cima, da ga tuži, da mu pleni imovinu i ostalo. Banke ne žele da se bave sudovima i imovinama. Žele da rade samo s novcem. Pošto novac ne mogu da uzmu od onoga ko ga nema onda ga uzimaju od svih po malo, i to je taj njihov interes. Da toga nema banke bi vremenom kumulirale gubitke.
Mac, ti se zezas right?
Naravno da mi je jasna ta sick logika banke, sto ne znaci da me zanima cime banka zeli da se bavi i sad jos treba da imam razumevanja? U USA se ne otplaćuje više kredita nego u Evropi, pa tamo nema penala i "zakona banke".
Sustina mog kukanja je u dziberskoj Evropi koja mi nameće nešto što u imperijalističkoj USA bankama na pamet ne pada, mislim pada, al mogu da se slikaju.
Odnosno, kukam što je Evropa dospela u takvu poziciju da joj faking USA diktira šta i kako. Nije to ništa novo, al eto.
Quote from: lilit_hardy on 29-07-2013, 18:17:54
Ne znam kako je u Srbiji, al kad u Austriji uzmeš kredit na stan na 30 godina i hoćeš za 5 godina da ga otplatiš, plaćaš takve penale da ti se to prosto ne isplati.
Јежим се од кредита, али неки моји пријатељи су узели стамбени кредит и баш смо причали о отплаћивању раније. Не знам у којој су банци узели кредит нити да ли су користили неке субвенције (не волим да постављам таква питања), али ако сам их добро разумео, они ако би хтели да отплате раније, не би плаћали пенале, али би платили исту суму (или бар сличну?) као и да отплаћују тридесет година. Дакле, њима је камата већ урачуната, па како им воља. Зато немају намеру да плате раније.
Е сад, у Србији има разних комбинација, и лоповскијих од горе наведене (као рецимо, везивање за швајцарски франак што је ујебало многе), али и океј варијанте - ја до краја ове године излазим из кредита за ауто који је био бескаматни. То је нудио "Рено" и сада, тек кад је продаја аутомобила пала, почињу да нуде и неки други - ова понуда је била три хиљаде евра, на три године, без камате. Није могло више од тога, остало мора да се искешира, за који год модел. Дакле, 3000:36=83,3 евра месечно. Могу да изађем из кредита раније, без пенала, али из неког разлога морао сам да пустим да прође годину дана.
horor! mislim na stambene kredite.
inače, ta amerika je stvarno čudo od zemlje. generalizujem, al toliko kontradiktornosti nigde videla nisam. možda i nije čudno pošto i od malih nogu uče da je to naj naj naj zemlja na svetu, al to se nekako zadržava i kad ljudi odrastu. ne svi, ima i super ljudi, ko i svuda, al prosek je ispod proseka.
retko kome je čudno što soba po danu u pristojnoj bolnici košta reda veličine 10.000 dolara, što im je zdravstvo za sve osim za bogate katastrofalno, al te čudno gledaju kad kažeš da ti nije jasno zašto institucija kao mayo klinika blokira sajtove kao što je al džazira.
pa to selekcionisanje na osnovu religije. ako je šef dipartmenta u bolnici jevrej, ostatak zaposlenih tu su jevreji od 90-100%. u srbiji bi svi drečali kad bi bilo tako.
daleko od toga da propagiram američki way of working, :lol: , pu pu.
sve ovo sa snowdenom prati šačica ljudi, ostali nit su čuli nit ih zanima. a i 60% onih koji prate (demokrate uglavnom) ne prihvataju da obama moze da ne bude u pravu.
ruski, uzbekinstanski, etc. restorani i prodavnice na sve strane, ameri kupuju. em ukusnije, em jeftinije. kaze mi jedna baba (posto su me odveli da kupimo ajvar "bakina tajna" :) - ovo kao da smo otputovali u neku drugu zemlju.
oz jbt.
al dobro, dok je yochai benklera i sličnih, ima nade i za usa. :lol:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/26/manning-snowden-us-better-self (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/26/manning-snowden-us-better-self)
Quote from: lilit_hardy on 29-07-2013, 18:17:54
Meni je trenutno najveći trn u oku način kreditiranja u USA. Ne znam kako je u Srbiji, al kad u Austriji uzmeš kredit na stan na 30 godina i hoćeš za 5 godina da ga otplatiš, plaćaš takve penale da ti se to prosto ne isplati. U USA toga nema. Ako imaš cash u nekom momentu, plaćaš samo glavnicu i kraj. E sad, kako to može u Imperiji a ne može u Evropi, to mi je jasno al me nervira. :lol:
mislim da kod nas može ovo
u smislu otplatiš 70% kredita i oćeš odjednom ostalih 30%...
onda fino umjesto 7% kamate plaćaš 2%
tako sam slušao dok sam u banci čekao red...
mada nisam siguran da je ovo stambeni... možda je nenamjenski kredit
intesa sanpaolo...
http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2013&mm=07&dd=31&nav_category=78&nav_id=737827 (http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2013&mm=07&dd=31&nav_category=78&nav_id=737827)
QuoteIzvor: Beta
Klarksvil -- Zaposleni u srednjoj školi u Klarksvilu, u američkoj državi Arkanzasu, u novoj školskoj godini će nositi sakriveno oružje.
Ludilo. Mada ima ta neka statistika koju NRA i njihovi adepti uvek izvade kada se pokrene ova priča, kako je navodno broj ljudi koji sebi spasu život jer su imali oružje tokom jedne godine signifikantan u odnosu na broj povreda i smrti od akcidenata izazvanih oružjem... Naravno, nemam previše poverenja u tu statistiku, ali eto, kao, postoji..
Постоји ту још један елемент који се у данашња погубљена времена с муком спомиње и углавном негативно, а то је - традиција. Склон сам да поверујем у статистику NRA, али не и да је применљива на друге државе.
"Nacionalna asocijacija za oružje (NRA), najmoćnije udruženje pobornika prava na posedovanje oružja u SAD, ocenila je da je nošenje oružja jedini odgovor na ozbiljne pretnje u školama."
Jedini? :cry:
Nadam se da je ovo los prevod, a mrzi me da trazim originalni tekst.
Jbt. U drzavi NY ti dozvola treba samo za pistolj, puske mozes da kupujes koliko ti volja i to preko ebaya.
A jedini check koji urade da vide da li si normalan je da ti nazovu zenu ili muza i postave koje pitanje o tvom karakteru.
Btw, meci "Prvog partizana" su na ceni, kvalitetni su a jeftiniji nego drugi u tom rangu kvaliteta.
Snouden je, reklo bi se dobio azil u majčici Rusiji. Obama se sigurno u grobu prevr... oh, čekajte...
Edward Snowden got asylum in Russia, lawyer says (http://news.yahoo.com/edward-snowden-got-asylum-russia-lawyer-says-121914081.html)
QuoteMOSCOW (AP) — National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden left transit zone of a Moscow airport and entered Russia after authorities granted him temporary asylum, his lawyer said Thursday.
Anatoly Kucherena said that Snowden's whereabouts will be kept secret for security reasons. The former NSA systems analyst was stuck at Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport since his arrival from Hong Kong on June 23.
The U.S. has demanded that Russia send Snowden home to face prosecution for espionage, but President Vladimir Putin dismissed the request.
Putin had said that Snowden could receive asylum in Russia on condition he stops leaking U.S. secrets. Kucherena has said Snowden accepted the condition.
The Guardian newspaper on Wednesday published a new report on U.S. intelligence-gathering based on information from Snowden, but Kucherena said the material was provided before Snowden promised to stop leaking.
Snowden, who revealed details of a U.S. intelligence program to monitor Internet activity, has received offers of asylum from Venezuela, Nicaragua and Bolivia and said he would like to visit those countries. However, the logistics of reaching any of those countries are complicated because his U.S. passport has been revoked.
Snowden's father said in remarks broadcast Wednesday on Russian television that he would like to visit his son. Kucherena said he is arranging the trip.
The secret-spilling grop WikiLeaks said its legal adviser Sarah Harrison is now with Snowden. The group also praised Russia for providing him shelter.
"We would like to thank the Russian people and all those others who have helped to protect Mr. Snowden," WikiLeaks said on Twitter. "We have won the battle — now the war."
The Snowden case has further strained U.S.-Russian ties already tense amid differences over Syria, U.S. criticism of Russia's human rights record and other issues.
Putin's foreign affairs aide, Yuri Ushakov, sought Thursday to downplay the impact this will have on the U.S.-Russia relations.
"This issue isn't significant enough to have an impact on political relations," he said in remarks carried by Russian news agencies.
He said that the Kremlin hasn't heard any signal from Washington that Obama could cancel his visit to Moscow ahead of next month's G-20 summit in St.Petersburg.
rusi su izgleda čekali da ovaj shit s mannningom postane official.
nisam baš sigurna koliko je assangeu pametno da se raduje, kakav dobijeni rat, jbt.
nego, da li s ovim papirom snowden, u teoriji, moze da putuje?
među ovim amerima stvarno ima bisera :-x :cry: :
In the US, senator Robert Menendez, chair of the Senate foreign relations committee, has said Snowden is a "fugitive who belongs in a United States courtroom" and said the episode damaged US-Russian relations:
" Edward Snowden is a fugitive who belongs in a United States courtroom, not a free man deserving of asylum in Russia.
Regardless of the fact that Russia is granting asylum for one year, this action is a setback to US-Russia relations.
Edward Snowden will potentially do great damage to US national security interests and the information he is leaking could aid terrorists and others around the world who want to do real harm to our country.
Russia must return Snowden to face trial at home."
Stvarno se nadam da im neće pasti na pamet da pokušaju da ga roknu na ruskoj teritoriji.
I jbt, šta je on leakovao osim da ovi prisluškuju koga stignu i sad je on criminal i fugitive...a tek na TV stanicama bliskim vladi, 4 sata o trudovima Kate Middleton, pa 3 sata o Zimmermanu, pa 3 minuta o Snowdenu kao najgorem šljamu i krimosu. Sedim, gledam, ne verujem.
Samo ce jednog dana da padne niz stepenice i u padu proguta parce polonijuma koje se slucajno tu naslo :)
Pa ima oн штошта да леакује, raznorazne operativne procedure, imena, bla bla bla... obaveštajne službe ni jednu informaciju ne smatraju nevažnom.
hm, pa ima, al sve sto je dosad likovaose odnosi na gadno krsenje zakona od strane onih o kojima se likuje, te ja ne vidim problem u tome :lol:. valjda treba obavestiti javnost kad se takvo nesto desava. pa i sama amerika je na tome insistirala 1945. :lol: :lol:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/01/nsa-paid-gchq-spying-edward-snowden (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/01/nsa-paid-gchq-spying-edward-snowden)
@usul,
nesto se nadam da ga rusi nece pustiti niz vodu, a verujem da im je trenutno vrlo zanimljiv ako ni zbog cega ono zbog tupljenja da oni postuju ljudska prava i internacionalne zakone. :lol:
Quote from: Usul on 01-08-2013, 18:01:26
Samo ce jednog dana da padne niz stepenice i u padu proguta parce polonijuma koje se slucajno tu naslo :)
Мислиш да ће Амери и Руси сарађивати у ликвидацији тако што ће и једни и други применити своје омиљене начине?
Quote from: Джон Рейнольдс on 03-08-2013, 00:59:00
Quote from: Usul on 01-08-2013, 18:01:26
Samo ce jednog dana da padne niz stepenice i u padu proguta parce polonijuma koje se slucajno tu naslo :)
Мислиш да ће Амери и Руси сарађивати у ликвидацији тако што ће и једни и други применити своје омиљене начине?
Ako ga maknu rusi mogu da kazu da su to ameri koji hoce da prebace odgovornost na ruse, a ako ga makne cia onda mogu da kazu da su to bili rusi :-)
А зашто би га Руси мицали?
Смешно је све то са Сноуденом. Као што сам већ одавно писао, Руси се вероватно понашају уздржано јер Сноуден није објавио ништа посебно. (http://rt.com/news/snowden-leaks-russia-security-761/)
Али понављам, чини ми се да је момкова намера била часна и не бих волео да најебе у великим играма. Некако је за наук свима да не буду корисни идиоти зликоваца (чак и неким форумским "фацама").
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-scraps-planned-putin-summit-after-snowden-leaks-140941413.html (http://news.yahoo.com/obama-scraps-planned-putin-summit-after-snowden-leaks-140941413.html)
Чланак је генерално урнебесан, али мени је ово хајлајт:
"But there have been times where they [мисли на Русе]slip back into Cold War thinking and a Cold War mentality," Obama added. "And what I consistently say to them, and what I say to President Putin, is that's the past and we've got to think about the future, and there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to cooperate more effectively than we do."
:!:
pa to je ista ta retorika koju i nama ovde prodaju: pustite kosovo, pustite manastire, pustite nekretnine, proterane stanovnike - nećemo se sad vraćati u PROŠLOST, gledajmo radije u bolje SUTRA, u NEW WORLD ORDER vođen nacistima u evropi, i uber-nacistima u svetu!
Quote from: Ghoul on 07-08-2013, 19:25:20
pa to je ista ta retorika koju i nama ovde prodaju: pustite kosovo, pustite manastire, pustite nekretnine, proterane stanovnike - nećemo se sad vraćati u PROŠLOST, gledajmo radije u bolje SUTRA, u NEW WORLD ORDER vođen nacistima u evropi, i uber-nacistima u svetu!
xjap
Quote from: Ghoul on 07-08-2013, 19:25:20
pa to je ista ta retorika koju i nama ovde prodaju: pustite kosovo, pustite manastire, pustite nekretnine, proterane stanovnike - nećemo se sad vraćati u PROŠLOST, gledajmo radije u bolje SUTRA, u NEW WORLD ORDER vođen nacistima u evropi, i uber-nacistima u svetu!
Meho, upomoć, ne mogu da provalim da li je opet šala ili je sad ozbiljno?
Ova briga za manastire mi je sumnjiva...
mnogo si bre ograničeno, divčo, a princip je krajnje prost, iako nije gavrilo:
crkve i manastire treba da ruše i pale oni koji su ih dizali a ne neki sa strane.
svako(m) svoje!
Ma i ne ruše ih neki sa strane, sve sam komšija do komšije...
Dok se u Srbiji džamije pale same od sebe...
Pa i to su neke komšije...
Quote from: divča on 08-08-2013, 11:27:37
Quote from: Ghoul on 07-08-2013, 19:25:20
pa to je ista ta retorika koju i nama ovde prodaju: pustite kosovo, pustite manastire, pustite nekretnine, proterane stanovnike - nećemo se sad vraćati u PROŠLOST, gledajmo radije u bolje SUTRA, u NEW WORLD ORDER vođen nacistima u evropi, i uber-nacistima u svetu!
Meho, upomoć, ne mogu da provalim da li je opet šala ili je sad ozbiljno?
Ova briga za manastire mi je sumnjiva...
Gul bi ipak trebalo da razjasni da li kad kaže "manastir" misli na spomenik kulture ili na živo Hristovo telo na zemlji :lol:
мислим да не
Quote from: divča on 08-08-2013, 11:57:10
Dok se u Srbiji džamije pale same od sebe...
tvojoj ograničenosti baš nema granica!
da li je toliko teško pojmiti moje načelo: svako(m) SVOJE.
dakle, u idealnom svetu, meho bi palio džamije a ja manastire.
ali pošto ne živimo u idealnom svetu, uglavnom pogrešni pale i ruše. :cry:
http://www.lady-patriots.com/if-they-come-to-your-door-dont-let-them-in/# (http://www.lady-patriots.com/if-they-come-to-your-door-dont-let-them-in/#)
Ukratko: prodavci knjiga za decu, neretko strani studenti, idu od vrata do vrata, pokušavaju da prodaju knjige, i raspituju se u kojim kućama u komšiluku ima dece, što je vrlo sumnjivo (sigurno 'oće nešto opako sa sitnom američkom đecom!).
Quote from: angel011 on 10-08-2013, 12:47:05
(sigurno 'oće nešto opako sa sitnom američkom đecom!).
DA!
DA IM UVALE KNJIGE!!!
UŽASNE LI IDEJE!
Pa i tamo je kriza, nema se za svakojake skarednosti...
http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/florida-policija-ubila-mladica-18-zbog-crtanja-grafita-stotine-prosvjednika-na-ulicama-obitelj-ubijenog-ovo-je-barbarizam/ (http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/florida-policija-ubila-mladica-18-zbog-crtanja-grafita-stotine-prosvjednika-na-ulicama-obitelj-ubijenog-ovo-je-barbarizam/)
jao, strašno, pa mi smo najgori, zar mi u evropu, ko je poslednji nek ugasi svetlo... oh, pardon, čekaj, pa ovo je u americi?
ah, onda ništa.
sva sreća što u srbiji nema policijske brutalnosti i prebijanja nasmrt ili s teškim telesnim posledicama...
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/-man-denied-life-saving-surgery-over-26-cent-insurance-dispute--212103627.html (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/-man-denied-life-saving-surgery-over-26-cent-insurance-dispute--212103627.html)
Baš sam sad gledao ekonomske pokazatelje i ako je suditi po statistici njihova privreda se oporavlja. Još od prošle godine raste BDP, a stopa nezaposlenosti opada, pala je ispod 8%. Toliko o propasti Carstva. :evil:
Propast ne mora biti samo ekonomska.
U nekim sredinama primetna je propast kreativnosti.
Kod Amera retko koji film odstupa od kalupa u poslednje vreme.
Znaju oni šta rade. Dokle god publika guta isto oni će im to servirati.
Quote from: Loni on 17-08-2013, 16:23:26
Propast ne mora biti samo ekonomska.
U nekim sredinama primetna je propast kreativnosti.
Kod Amera retko koji film odstupa od kalupa u poslednje vreme.
Pusti film, bez toga može da se živi. Ja pričam o ''ozbiljnim'' stvarima. Takođe, najveći kreativci na polju tehnologije upravo rade u Americi.
Dobro de. Ekonomija jeste najvažnija.
Pored filma ja primećujem da im je i muzika sve jednoličnija.
Britanija da više dobrih pesama po godini od SAD.
Iako neće propasti mislim da Amerika više nikad neće biti onoliko superiorna kao krajem prošlog veka.
Na svakom kanalu - njihove serije (Od Dinastije za tetke domaćice, preko Beverli Hilsa za tinejdžere, do Tvin Piksa za ljubitelje krimi komičnog horora)...
U dečjem terminu samo njihovi crtaći i Muppet Show.
Treći kanal RTS-a prenosi direktno MTV pola dana...
U žiži sveta samo Njurjok i LA
A danas?
Od Beograda do Dubaija turske serije najpopularnije, pa indijske pa latinoameričke...
Ameri gotovo od odustali od 45-ominutnih serijala u nastavcima i opredelili se ili za 22-minutne komične ili krimi serije gde je svaka epizoda za sebe.
Crtaći? Japan sve jači.
Muzika? Nekad su u gradovima ostalih zemalja IN bili anglo žanrovi: rok, pop, rap, metal, aReNBi.
Danas svaka zemlja fura autentičnost. Turska i Grčka u orijentalnom ritmu, kao i svi Arapi,
na Balkanu Guča..., latino Amerika opet neki svoj fazon...
Rokenrol je svoju popularnost sveo samo na zemlje anglofonog područja.
Već u španskom govornom području to više nije najpopularnija muzika.
O Aziji i Africi da ne govorimo.
Drugim rečima anglo i američki uticaj na kulturu sveta nikad slabiji.
Ne ulazim koliko je to dobro ili loše. Možda i nije tako loše.
Tursko/indijska veza se rabi zbog jeftinoće, a ne zato što su Ameri jednolični. Mislim, ako je nešto jednolično onda su to te turske melodrame u nastavcima. I opet Loni gledaš medije, a to nije ništa bitno. Gledaj industriju, nauku, dostignuća. To je toliko očigledno da pomišljam da opet nešto troluješ...
Pa i plasman serija i zabave je industrija.
Ove godine bio sam u Antaliji.
Kažu da su pre 20 godina Turci prodavali svoje TV serije tako jeftino, da su bili srećni ako ih neka televizija
u Siriji ili Iraku otkupi za bednih 500 evra po epizodi.
Znači ako ih je u seriji radilo 250 ljudi ukupnu, dobijali bi 2 evra po svakoj emitovanoj epizodi u inostranstvu.
Danas sama glumica glavne sultanije Hurem, dobije oko 20 000 evra po epizodi.
TV kanali po Saudi Arabiji, Jemenu, Omanu, Emiratima, Egiptu, Maroku, Srbiji, Bosni, Makedoniji, Bugarskoj, Rumuniji cenjkaju se međusobno ko će otkupi.
Pa dobro, i jeste industrija. Onda gledaj ukupnu sliku. Američki BDP u koji ulaze i proizvodi zabave se oporavlja. Sporo, ali već godinu i po...
Ovo i nije neka velika novost, jer se događalo u Subotu, ali ipak, vredi zabeležiti da je jedan od novinara TIME magazina tvitovao kako jedva čeka da dobije priliku da napiše odbranu za napad bespilotnom letelicom koji će ubiti Džulijana Asanža. Nakon što se urednik TIME magazina distancirao od ovoga a gomila ljudi reagovala masovnim fejspalmingom, Majk Grunvald, kako je ime ovom reporteru, je uklonio tvit. Ali čovek je očigledno komad budale kako i donjelinkovani tekst pokazuje, jer je već i ranije tvitovao da ne vidi problem u tome što Amerika UAV-ovima ubija ljude po svetu. Njegova reakcija na ubijenog američkog građanina u Jemenu? "A što bi trebalo da me je briga? Pa on je bio iz Al Kaide!"
Svakakvi ludaci pišu za taj TIME...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/17/michael-grunwald-julian-assange_n_3773981.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/17/michael-grunwald-julian-assange_n_3773981.html)
I o istom trošku, mada se ovo događalo u Britaniji, u pitanju je očigledan primer kako Amerika vlada dobrim delom sveta i vuče ga u propas (moralnu u najmanju ruku):
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/18/glenn-greenwald-guardian-partner-detained-heathrow (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/18/glenn-greenwald-guardian-partner-detained-heathrow)
Partner Gardijanovog novinara koji je objavio Snowdenove priče, intervjue itd. je zadržan devet sati na londonskom aerodromu Hitrou, pod sumnjom da je terorista. Mislim, em peder, em Brazilac, šta bi drugo mogao da bude? Elem, devet sati je zakonski maksimum koliko čoveka možete da ispitujete pre nego što ga uhapsite ili pustite, pa su britanske vlasti ovog momka pustile, ali su mu konfiskovale svu elektroniku, uključujući konzole za igranje i DVDjeve...
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Glenn Greenwald's partner detained at Heathrow airport for nine hours David Miranda, partner of Guardian interviewer of whistleblower Edward Snowden, questioned under Terrorism Act
The partner of the Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/media/theguardian) journalist who has written a series of stories revealing mass surveillance programmes by the US National Security (http://www.theguardian.com/world/us-national-security) Agency was held for almost nine hours on Sunday by UK authorities as he passed through London (http://www.theguardian.com/uk/london)'s Heathrow airport on his way home to Rio de Janeiro.
David Miranda (http://www.theguardian.com/world/david-miranda), who lives with Glenn Greenwald (http://www.theguardian.com/profile/glenn-greenwald), was returning from a trip to Berlin when he was stopped by officers at 8.05am and informed that he was to be questioned under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000. The controversial law, which applies only at airports, ports and border areas, allows officers to stop, search, question and detain individuals.
The 28-year-old was held for nine hours, the maximum the law allows before officers must release or formally arrest the individual. According to official figures, most examinations under schedule 7 – over 97% – last less than an hour, and only one in 2,000 people detained are kept for more than six hours (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/157896/consultation-document.pdf).
Miranda was released, but officials confiscated electronics equipment including his mobile phone, laptop, camera, memory sticks, DVDs and games consoles.
Since 5 June, Greenwald has written a series of stories revealing the NSA (http://www.theguardian.com/world/nsa)'s electronic surveillance programmes, detailed in thousands of files passed to him by whistleblower Edward Snowden (http://www.theguardian.com/world/edward-snowden). The Guardian has also published a number of stories about blanket electronic surveillance by Britain's GCHQ, also based on documents from Snowden.
While in Berlin, Miranda had visited Laura Poitras, the US film-maker who has also been working on the Snowden files with Greenwald and the Guardian. The Guardian paid for Miranda's flights.
"This is a profound attack on press freedoms and the news gathering process," Greenwald said. "To detain my partner for a full nine hours while denying him a lawyer, and then seize large amounts of his possessions, is clearly intended to send a message of intimidation to those of us who have been reporting on the NSA and GCHQ. The actions of the UK pose a serious threat to journalists everywhere.
"But the last thing it will do is intimidate or deter us in any way from doing our job as journalists. Quite the contrary: it will only embolden us more to continue to report aggressively."
A spokesperson for the Guardian said: "We were dismayed that the partner of a Guardian journalist who has been writing about the security services was detained for nearly nine hours while passing through Heathrow airport. We are urgently seeking clarification from the British authorities."
A spokesperson for Scotland Yard said: "At 08:05 on Sunday, 18 August a 28-year-old man was detained at Heathrow airport under schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000. He was not arrested. He was subsequently released at 17:00."
Scotland Yard refused to be drawn on why Miranda was stopped using powers that enable police officers to stop and question travellers at UK ports and airports.
There was no comment from the Home Office in relation to the detention. However, there was surprise in political circles and elsewhere. Labour MP Tom Watson said he was shocked at the news and called for it to be made clear if any ministers were involved in authorising the detention.
He said: "It's almost impossible, even without full knowledge of the case, to conclude that Glenn Greenwald's partner was a terrorist suspect.
"I think that we need to know if any ministers knew about this decision, and exactly who authorised it."
"The clause in this act is not meant to be used as a catch-all that can be used in this way."
Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act has been widely criticised for giving police broad powers under the guise of anti-terror legislation to stop and search individuals without prior authorisation or reasonable suspicion – setting it apart from other police powers.
Those stopped have no automatic right to legal advice and it is a criminal offence to refuse to co-operate with questioning under schedule 7, which critics say is a curtailment of the right to silence.
Last month the UK government said it would reduce the maximum period of detention to six hours and promised a review of the operation on schedule 7 amid concerns it unfairly targets minority groups and gives individuals fewer legal protections than they would have if detained at a police station.
The government of Brazil issued a statement in which it expressed its "grave concern" over the detention of one of its citizens and the use of anti-terror legislation. It said: "This measure is without justification since it involves an individual against whom there are no charges that can legitimate the use of that legislation. The Brazilian government expects that incidents such as the one that happened to the Brazilian citizen today are not repeated."
Widney Brown, Amnesty International's senior director of international law and policy, said: "It is utterly improbable that David Michael Miranda, a Brazilian national transiting through London, was detained at random, given the role his partner has played in revealing the truth about the unlawful nature of NSA surveillance.
"David's detention was unlawful and inexcusable. He was detained under a law that violates any principle of fairness and his detention shows how the law can be abused for petty, vindictive reasons.
"There is simply no basis for believing that David Michael Miranda presents any threat whatsoever to the UK government. The only possible intent behind this detention was to harass him and his partner, Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald, for his role in analysing the data released by Edward Snowden."
Quote from: mac on 17-08-2013, 17:19:15
Tursko/indijska veza se rabi zbog jeftinoće, a ne zato što su Ameri jednolični. Mislim, ako je nešto jednolično onda su to te turske melodrame u nastavcima. I opet Loni gledaš medije, a to nije ništa bitno. Gledaj industriju, nauku, dostignuća. To je toliko očigledno da pomišljam da opet nešto troluješ...
Лони? ТРОЛУЈЕ????? Ма даааааааааааааааааааај! :D
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 20-08-2013, 10:16:21
Ovo i nije neka velika novost, jer se događalo u Subotu, ali ipak, vredi zabeležiti da je jedan od novinara TIME magazina tvitovao kako jedva čeka da dobije priliku da napiše odbranu za napad bespilotnom letelicom koji će ubiti Džulijana Asanža. Nakon što se urednik TIME magazina distancirao od ovoga a gomila ljudi reagovala masovnim fejspalmingom, Majk Grunvald, kako je ime ovom reporteru, je uklonio tvit. Ali čovek je očigledno komad budale kako i donjelinkovani tekst pokazuje, jer je već i ranije tvitovao da ne vidi problem u tome što Amerika UAV-ovima ubija ljude po svetu. Njegova reakcija na ubijenog američkog građanina u Jemenu? "A što bi trebalo da me je briga? Pa on je bio iz Al Kaide!"
Svakakvi ludaci pišu za taj TIME...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/17/michael-grunwald-julian-assange_n_3773981.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/17/michael-grunwald-julian-assange_n_3773981.html)
Taj frajer ko da je iz Pečata. :oops:
sutra u 16h po našem vremenu presuda manningu. pa ko živ, ko mrtav. moronsko tužilaštvo tražilo 60 godina da osiguraju da nikome ne padne na pamet tako nešto. na stranu što nisu morali da dokazuju da je šteta učinjena.
mnogo me ljute i oni i uk, al, javlja mi se, ne haju mnogo zbog toga.
Quote from: lilit on 20-08-2013, 19:22:58
mnogo me ljute i oni i uk, al, javlja mi se, ne haju mnogo zbog toga.
i meni se javlja da se ne potresaju mnogo što si ti naljućena. :cry:
Slavery in the City: Death of 21-year-old intern Moritz Erhardt at Merrill Lynch sparks furore over long hours and macho culture at banks
Young German worked until 6am for three consecutive days before collapse at home in east London
Serious concerns have been raised tonight about the punishing hours endured by interns at City investment banks following the death of a young Bank of America Merrill Lynch employee.
Moritz Erhardt, 21, was nearing the end of a seven-week internship in London when he collapsed at home after working until 6am for three days in a row.
His body was discovered by his flatmates. The circumstances of his death are unknown, but police are not treating them as suspicious. Some reports suggested that Mr Moritz, from Freiburg, south-west Germany, was epileptic.
Around 300 interns working at various banks stay at the Claredale House student accommodation complex in Bethnal Green in east London for between seven and 10 weeks over the summer. One intern, who did not want to be named, told The Independent those in Mr Moritz's investing banking division group faced the longest hours.
He said: "We all work long hours, but the guys working regularly until 3am or 4am are those in investment banking. People working in markets will have to be in at 6am but not stay as late, so what time you can leave the office depends on your division.
"You're only doing it for up to 10 weeks so there's a general acceptance of it. I see many people wandering around, blurry-eyed and drinking caffeine to get through but people don't complain because the potential rewards are so great. We're competing for some very well-paid jobs."
Another intern living at Claredale claimed that Mr Erhardt, who had been earning £2,700 a month or £45,000 pro rata, collapsed from exhaustion. "He apparently pulled eight all-nighters in two weeks. They get you working crazy hours and maybe it was just too much for him in the end," they said.
Users of the popular finance blog wallstreetoasis.com insisted Mr Erhardt regularly worked long hours, with his final three days consisting of 21-hour stints in the office. One said: "He was found dead in the shower by his flatmate. Intern at BAML who went home at 6am three days in a row."
Mr Moritz was found last Thursday around 8.30pm and was pronounced dead at the scene. His parents are believed to be in the UK where a post-mortem and inquest will now take place.
The London-based cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra spoke of the health risks to which young banking interns are exposed. He said: "Although we don't know for sure what caused such a tragic death, we know that working excessive hours, especially night shifts, is an extra risk to health.
"Last year the BMJ [medical journal] published the largest and most comprehensive review of over two million people concluding that those working shifts and especially night shifts were at significantly increased risk of heart attack and stroke. It's probably related to a combination of sleep deprivation and added stress."
Bank of America Merrill Lynch said it could not comment on the claims about the hours that Mr Moritz had been working. John McIvor, head of international communications at Merrill Lynch, said: "All the rumours and comments are just that. We will have to wait and see what the post-mortem examination says." He added: "Our first thoughts are with his family and we send our condolences to them."
Mr McIvor refused to say whether or not it was common for staff to work through the night. He said: "I have not got any comment to make on our work patterns." But he added: "Do people in investment banking sometimes work long hours? Yes they do."
Mr Moritz appears to have been one of many interns caught on the so-called "magic roundabout" – a process whereby a taxi takes interns home, waits outside while they shower and change, then drives them back to the office to begin another long day.
FinanceInterns, a careers advice group, condemned the City's long-hours culture. A spokesperson said: "Young people who jubilantly accept a summer internship thinking they've landed a chance at their dream job, find themselves declaring that, what should have been a summer full of hope, is in fact the 'worst three months' of their lives due to the exhausting combination of all-nighters, weekend work and the magic roundabout.
"In the toughest job-market experienced in recent times, competition is even higher. Consequently these talented, diligent, young people are ever more willing to work hours which more senior staff would not."
Mr Erhardt studied business administration at the University of Michigan before attending WHU Otto Beisheim School of Management in Vallendar, Germany, where he was due to graduate next year. He had already completed placements at KPMG Consulting, Morgan Stanley, and in Deutsche Bank's corporate finance division.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/slavery-in-the-city-death-of-21yearold-intern-moritz-erhardt-at-merrill-lynch-sparks-furore-over-long-hours-and-macho-culture-at-banks-8775917.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/slavery-in-the-city-death-of-21yearold-intern-moritz-erhardt-at-merrill-lynch-sparks-furore-over-long-hours-and-macho-culture-at-banks-8775917.html)
Da... taj internšip je jedna od najmračnijih izmišljotina poznog kapitalizma...
35 godina. jbt. faking idiots. :(
Veleizdaja je ipak veleizdaja. A to što oni roksaju po civilima - nikom ništa.
Quote from: lilit on 21-08-2013, 20:18:46
35 godina. jbt. faking idiots. :(
Bas mi nesto bese zao kad sam cuo :(
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 21-08-2013, 23:36:59
A to što oni roksaju po civilima - nikom ništa.
A jbg... "Sto je dozvoljeno Jupiteru..."
Kad bi BRICS uveo trgovinsku blokadu Americi ispalo bi da ni taj Jupiter nije baš neprikosnoven.
Quote from: lilit on 21-08-2013, 20:18:46
35 godina. jbt. faking idiots. :(
Ima l' šanse da mu to smanje? :(
Quote from: angel011 on 22-08-2013, 11:01:03
Ima l' šanse da mu to smanje? :(
Teoretski ima.
Takodje, predsednik moze da ga pomiluje.
A nakon izdrzane trecine kazne, ima pravo na uslovni otpust (za sad je odsluzio 4 god).
Dal ce nesto od ovoga biti,
who knows...?
Baš me interesuje kako bi reagovala "domaća" ekipa kad bi neko iz srbijanske vojske/policije izlajavio reciprocitetno slično, sigurno je da se ima šta. Jel' bi bilo konjima za repove, il' samo smrtna kazna?
Mislim da bi kod nas reakcija bila više u stilu "ma kakvi, to sve izmišljeno, jasno je da iza tog čoveka/ žene stoje interesi krupnog kapitala/ ruske obaveštajne službe/ zapadne špijunske agencije, pa nismo mi vesla sisali, znamo mi kolko putera na glavi on/ ona ima a i ćale mu je bio gej" itd. Recimo, kad su objavljeni oni snimci kako Škorpioni ubijaju zarobljenike, od strane Nataše Kandić, čini mi se da je to otprilike bio ton reakcija na jednoj strani.
hm, pa tako reaguje i 90% americke populacije, nemojmo da smo naivni.
Moguće, naravno, nemam ja pojma, ne družim se s Amerikancima.
sto naravno ne znaci da je ispravno, al sta jeste?... u ovom otuznom svetu. hidrogenska? idealno resenje.
Ako ćemo o idealnim rešenjima, neutronska je mnogo idealnija, čuva infrastrukturu, iskorenjuje gamad.
To na stranu, ovakva konverzacija na forumu na engleskom jeziku bi nas brzo dovela na neku no fly/ terrorist watch listu :lol:
A da bismo to izbegli, mogli bismo da kazemo da je "jos idealnija" posoljena bomboncica, ne navodeci Kubricka ko hint!
Terrorist watch lista? Pa zar Sagita odavno ne spada u tu kategoriju?
Ameriko, aj lav ju.
Da li zakon dozvoljava da žene služe kaznu u muškom zatvoru?
:lol:
http://m.today.com/news/i-am-chelsea-read-mannings-full-statement-6C10974052 (http://m.today.com/news/i-am-chelsea-read-mannings-full-statement-6C10974052)
Vikipedija je VEĆ uredno promenila sadržaj da reflektuje njegov/ njen novi polni status. :lol: :lol: :lol: Hvale vredno!
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2Faxxr7o.jpg&hash=1e1b0a8e06a82fc5bce90eef2c26e77e60ff4f51)
da sam ovo video u nekoj usa tv seriji, reko bi: e, sad ga prećeraše! xrofl :|
nadam se da će ovo da mu uspe, i da će barem kao žena izbori za svoja prava sad, kad je celom svetu već pokazao da ima muda!
Bizarno
https://www.nsfwcorp.com/scribble/5697/74aa074d219ddecd106ee5febd9a55f925196642/ (https://www.nsfwcorp.com/scribble/5697/74aa074d219ddecd106ee5febd9a55f925196642/)
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Anthony Weiner: Protector of Rabbis' Right To Suck Baby Penis
Yep, it's true. I was reading a NYT article (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/nyregion/hasidic-jews-turn-up-pressure-on-city-to-accommodate-their-traditions.html?hp&_r=0&pagewanted=all) about the growing power of the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community in New York, when I stumbled on a gross bit of political trivia: one of the planks in Anthony Weiner's platform is the protection of the right of ultra-Orthodox rabbis to suck infant dick. It has to do with a particularly medieval ultra-Orthodox circumcision ritual in which a mohel (that's Hebrew for "professional foreskin chopper") drains the wound on a freshly circumcised baby penis by sucking on it with his mouth.
The practice — sometimes referred to as "direct mouth-to-bleeding-penis sucking" — isn't just grotesque and creepy, it's also a perfect way to transfer herpes and other goodies from a rabbi's dirty mouth and straight into the blood stream of a week-old baby. No one knows how many Jewish babies are infected in this manner, but there have been plenty of documented cases of herpes infection, some of which have led to death and permanent brain damage.
....
ACLU mi je jedna od dražih institucija u USA a od danas postaje omiljena!
https://www.aclu.org/blog/lgbt-rights-free-speech/aclu-response-chelsea-mannings-disclosure-gender-dysphoria (https://www.aclu.org/blog/lgbt-rights-free-speech/aclu-response-chelsea-mannings-disclosure-gender-dysphoria)
Izvinio se vojnik koji je krvnički masakrirao decu: Bilo je kukavički (http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/400815/Izvinio-se-vojnik-koji-je-krvnicki-masakrirao-decu-Bilo-je-kukavicki)
Za ovako nesto
QuoteU optužnici, međutim, stoji da je Bejls nešto posle ponoći napustio svoju bazu i ušao u dva obližnja sela, ubijajući meštane,
pokazujući nezamislivu brutalnost prema muškarcima, ženi i deci kojima je prerezao vratove iako su ga molili da ih poštedi.
on se
izvinjava, stvarno se izvinjava...
QuoteIzvinjavam se, istinski se izvinjavam zbog onog što sam uradio tim ljudima - rekao je Bejls.
A tek zaprecena kazna
Quotesuočava se sa kaznom doživotne robije
Quotesudsko veće odlučiti da li Bejlsu može biti omogućeno puštanje na uslovnu slobodu posle 20 godina zatvora.
:x
Mnogo se iznerviram kad procitam ovakve stvari! xuzi
Satan Ghoul's master na delu!
Pustite sve ubice, takvi nam trebaju na slobodi, ukinite smrtne kazne, ionako znamo da mogu da ih dobiju samo oni koji nama trebaju da svedu populaciju na dve milijarde... hehehe...
u potpisu Rokfeler i ostali masoni itd...
Ne preterujte, taj gore je dobio doživotnu bez prava na pomilovanje.
Kako izgleda kada ste u Americi tamnije boje kože i desilo vam se da baš tokom ramazana krenete na put avionom od Njujorka do Kalifornije. Poučna priča o tome kako razum nestaje u raljama paranoidne birokratije:
http://varnull.adityamukerjee.net/post/59021412512/dont-fly-during-ramadan (http://varnull.adityamukerjee.net/post/59021412512/dont-fly-during-ramadan)
QuoteDon't Fly During Ramadan (http://varnull.adityamukerjee.net/post/59021412512/dont-fly-during-ramadan)
A couple of weeks ago, I was scheduled to take a trip from New York (JFK) to Los Angeles on JetBlue. Every year, my family goes on a one-week pilgrimage, where we put our work on hold and spend time visiting temples, praying, and spending time with family and friends. To my Jewish friends, I often explain this trip as vaguely similar to the Sabbath (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbath), except we take one week of rest per year, rather than one day per week.
Our family is not Muslim, but by coincidence, this year, our trip happened to be during the last week of Ramadan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan).
By further coincidence, this was also the same week that I was moving out of my employer-provided temporary housing (at NYU) and moving into my new apartment. The night before my trip, I enlisted the help of two friends and we took most of my belongings, in a couple of suitcases, to my new apartment. The apartment was almost completely unfurnished - I planned on getting new furniture upon my return - so I dropped my few bags (one containing an air mattress) in the corner. Even though I hadn't decorated the apartment yet, in accordance with Hindu custom, I taped a single photograph to the wall in my bedroom — a long-haired saint with his hands outstretched in pronam (https://www.google.com/search?q=pronam&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=fR8WUre0GIG28wSH94DwCw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1046&bih=733) (a sign of reverence and respect).
The next morning, I packed the rest of my clothes into a suitcase and took a cab to the airport. I didn't bother to eat breakfast, figuring I would grab some yogurt in the terminal while waiting to board.
I got in line for security at the airport and handed the agent my ID. Another agent came over and handed me a paper slip, which he said was being used to track the length of the security lines. He said, "just hand this to someone when your stuff goes through the x-ray machines, and we'll know how long you were in line.' I looked at the timestamp on the paper: 10:40.
When going through the security line, I opted out (as I always used to) of the millimeter wave detectors. I fly often enough, and have opted out often enough, that I was prepared for what comes next: a firm pat-down by a TSA employee wearing non-latex gloves, who uses the back of his hand when patting down the inside of the thighs.
After the pat-down, the TSA agent swabbed his hands with some cotton-like material and put the swab in the machine that supposedly checks for explosive residue. The machine beeped. "We're going to need to pat you down again, this time in private," the agent said.
Having been selected before for so-called "random" checks, I assumed that this was another such check.
"What do you mean, 'in private'? Can't we just do this out here?"
"No, this is a different kind of pat-down, and we can't do that in public." When I asked him why this pat-down was different, he wouldn't tell me. When I asked him specifically why he couldn't do it in public, he said "Because it would be obscene."
Naturally, I balked at the thought of going somewhere behind closed doors where a person I just met was going to touch me in "obscene" ways. I didn't know at the time (and the agent never bothered to tell me) that the TSA has a policy that requires two agents to be present during every private pat-down. I'm not sure if that would make me feel more or less comfortable.
Noticing my hesitation, the agent offered to have his supervisor explain the procedure in more detail. He brought over his supervisor, a rather harried man who, instead of explaining the pat-down to me, rather rudely explained to me that I could either submit immediately to a pat-down behind closed-doors, or he could call the police.
At this point, I didn't mind having to leave the secure area and go back through security again (this time not opting out of the machines), but I didn't particularly want to get the cops involved. I told him, "Okay, fine, I'll leave".
"You can't leave here."
"Are you detaining me, then?" I've been through enough "know your rights (http://www.flexyourrights.org/)" training to know how to handle police searches; however, TSA agents are not law enforcement officials. Technically, they don't even have the right to detain you against your will.
"We're not detaining you. You just can't leave." My jaw dropped.
"Either you're detaining me, or I'm free to go. Which one is it?" I asked.
He glanced for a moment at my backpack, then snatched it out of the conveyor belt. "Okay," he said. "You can leave, but I'm keeping your bag."
I was speechless. My bag had both my work computer and my personal computer in it. The only way for me to get it back from him would be to snatch it back, at which point he could simply claim that I had assaulted him. I was trapped.
While we waited for the police to arrive, I took my phone and quickly tried to call my parents to let them know what was happening. Unfortunately, my mom's voicemail was full, and my dad had never even set his up.
"Hey, what's he doing?" One of the TSA agents had noticed I was touching my phone. "It's probably fine; he's leaving anyway," another said.
The cops arrived a few minutes later, spoke with the TSA agents for a moment, and then came over and gave me one last chance to submit to the private examination. "Otherwise, we have to escort you out of the building." I asked him if he could be present while the TSA agent was patting me down.
"No," he explained, "because when we pat people down, it's to lock them up."
I only realized the significance of that explanation later. At this point, I didn't particularly want to miss my flight. Foolishly, I said, "Fine, I'll do it."
The TSA agents and police escorted me to a holding room, where they patted me down again - this time using the front of their hands as they passed down the front of my pants. While they patted me down, they asked me some basic questions.
"What's the purpose of your travel?"
"Personal," I responded, (as opposed to business).
"Are you traveling with anybody?"
"My parents are on their way to LA right now; I'm meeting them there."
"How long is your trip?"
"Ten days."
"What will you be doing?"
Mentally, I sighed. There wasn't any other way I could answer this next question.
"We'll be visiting some temples." He raised his eyebrow, and I explained that the next week was a religious holiday, and that I was traveling to LA to observe it with my family.
After patting me down, they swabbed not only their hands, but also my backpack, shoes, wallet, and belongings, and then walked out of the room to put it through the machine again. After more than five minutes, I started to wonder why they hadn't said anything, so I asked the police officer who was guarding the door. He called over the TSA agent, who told me,
"You're still setting off the alarm. We need to call the explosives specialist".
I waited for about ten minutes before the specialist showed up. He walked in without a word, grabbed the bins with my possessions, and started to leave. Unlike the other agents I'd seen, he wasn't wearing a uniform, so I was a bit taken aback.
"What's happening?" I asked.
"I'm running it through the x-ray again," he snapped. "Because I can. And I'm going to do it again, and again, until I decide I'm done". He then asked the TSA agents whether they had patted me down. They said they had, and he just said, "Well, try again", and left the room. Again I was told to stand with my legs apart and my hands extended horizontally while they patted me down all over before stepping outside.
The explosives specialist walked back into the room and asked me why my clothes were testing positive for explosives. I told him, quite truthfully, "I don't know." He asked me what I had done earlier in the day.
"Well, I had to pack my suitcase, and also clean my apartment."
"And yesterday?"
"I moved my stuff from my old apartment to my new one".
"What did you eat this morning?"
"Nothing," I said. Only later did I realize that this made it sound like I was fasting, when in reality, I just hadn't had breakfast yet.
"Are you taking any medications?"
The other TSA agents stood and listened while the explosives specialist and asked every medication I had taken "recently", both prescription and over-the-counter, and asked me to explain any medical conditions for which any prescription medicine had been prescribed. Even though I wasn't carrying any medication on me, he still asked for my complete "recent" medical history.
"What have you touched that would cause you to test positive for certain explosives?"
"I can't think of anything. What does it say is triggering the alarm?" I asked.
"I'm not going to tell you! It's right here on my sheet, but I don't have to tell you what it is!" he exclaimed, pointing at his clipboard.
I was at a loss for words. The first thing that came to my mind was, "Well, I haven't touched any explosives, but if I don't even know what chemical we're talking about, I don't know how to figure out why the tests are picking it up."
He didn't like this answer, so he told them to run my belongings through the x-ray machine and pat me down again, then left the room.
I glanced at my watch. Boarding would start in fifteen minutes, and I hadn't even had anything to eat. A TSA officer in the room noticed me craning my neck to look at my watch on the table, and he said, "Don't worry, they'll hold the flight."
As they patted me down for the fourth time, a female TSA agent asked me for my baggage claim ticket. I handed it to her, and she told me that a woman from JetBlue corporate security needed to ask me some questions as well. I was a bit surprised, but agreed. After the pat-down, the JetBlue representative walked in and cooly introduced herself by name.
She explained, "We have some questions for you to determine whether or not you're permitted to fly today. Have you flown on JetBlue before?"
"Yes"
"How often?"
"Maybe about ten times," I guessed.
"Ten what? Per month?"
"No, ten times total."
She paused, then asked,
"Will you have any trouble following the instructions of the crew and flight attendants on board the flight?"
"No." I had no idea why this would even be in doubt.
"We have some female flight attendants. Would you be able to follow their instructions?"
I was almost insulted by the question, but I answered calmly, "Yes, I can do that."
"Okay," she continued, "and will you need any special treatment during your flight? Do you need a special place to pray on board the aircraft?"
Only here did it hit me.
"No," I said with a light-hearted chuckle, trying to conceal any sign of how offensive her questions were. "Thank you for asking, but I don't need any special treatment."
She left the room, again, leaving me alone for another ten minutes or so. When she finally returned, she told me that I had passed the TSA's inspection. "However, based on the responses you've given to questions, we're not going to permit you to fly today."
I was shocked. "What do you mean?" were the only words I could get out.
"If you'd like, we'll rebook you for the flight tomorrow, but you can't take the flight this afternoon, and we're not permitting you to rebook for any flight today."
I barely noticed the irony of the situation - that the TSA and NYPD were clearing me for takeoff, but JetBlue had decided to ground me. At this point, I could think of nothing else but how to inform my family, who were expecting me to be on the other side of the country, that I wouldn't be meeting them for dinner after all. In the meantime, an officer entered the room and told me to continue waiting there. "We just have one more person who needs to speak with you before you go." By then, I had already been "cleared" by the TSA and NYPD, so I couldn't figure out why I still needed to be questioned. I asked them if I could use my phone and call my family.
"No, this will just take a couple of minutes and you'll be on your way." The time was 12.35.
He stepped out of the room - for the first time since I had been brought into the cell, there was no NYPD officer guarding the door. Recognizing my short window of opportunity, I grabbed my phone from the table and quickly texted three of my local friends - two who live in Brooklyn, and one who lives in Nassau County - telling them that I had been detained by the TSA and that I couldn't board my flight. I wasn't sure what was going to happen next, but since nobody had any intention of reading me my Miranda rights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning), I wanted to make sure people knew where I was.
After fifteen minutes, one of the police officers marched into the room and scolded, "You didn't tell us you have a checked bag!" I explained that I had already handed my baggage claim ticket to a TSA agent, so I had in fact informed someone that I had a checked bag. Looking frustrated, he turned and walked out of the room, without saying anything more.
After about twenty minutes, another man walked in and introduced himself as representing the FBI. He asked me many of the same questions I had already answered multiple times - my name, my address, what I had done so far that day. etc.
He then asked, "What is your religion?"
"I'm Hindu."
"How religious are you? Would you describe yourself as 'somewhat religious' or 'very religious'?"
I was speechless from the idea of being forced to talk about my the extent of religious beliefs to a complete stranger. "Somewhat religious", I responded.
"How many times a day do you pray?" he asked. This time, my surprise must have registered on my face, because he quickly added, "I'm not trying to offend you; I just don't know anything about Hinduism. For example, I know that people are fasting for Ramadan right now, but I don't have any idea what Hindus actually do on a daily basis."
I nearly laughed at the idea of being questioned by a man who was able to admit his own ignorance on the subject matter, but I knew enough to restrain myself. The questioning continued for another few minutes. At one point, he asked me what cleaning supplies I had used that morning.
"Well, some window cleaner, disinfectant -" I started, before he cut me off.
"This is important," he said, sternly. "Be specific." I listed the specific brands that I had used.
Suddenly I remembered something: the very last thing I had done before leaving was to take the bed sheets off of my bed, as I was moving out. Since this was a dorm room, to guard against bedbugs, my dad (a physician) had given me an over-the-counter spray to spray on the mattress when I moved in, over two months previously. Was it possible that that was still active and triggering their machines?
"I also have a bedbug spray," I said. "I don't know the name of it, but I knew it was over-the-counter, so I figured it probably contained permethrin." Permethrin is an insecticide, sold over-the-counter to kill bed bugs and lice.
"Perm-what?" He asked me to spell it.
After he wrote it down, I asked him if I could have something to drink. "I've been here talking for three hours at this point," I explained. "My mouth is like sandpaper". He refused, saying
"We'll just be a few minutes, and then you'll be able to go."
"Do you have any identification?" I showed him my drivers license, which still listed my old address. "You have nothing that shows your new address?" he exclaimed.
"Well, no, I only moved there on Thursday."
"What about the address before that?"
"I was only there for two months - it was temporary housing for work". I pulled my NYU ID out of my wallet. He looked at it, then a police officer in the room took it from him and walked out.
"What about any business cards that show your work address?" I mentally replayed my steps from the morning, and remembered that I had left behind my business card holder, thinking I wouldn't need it on my trip.
"No, I left those at home."
"You have none?"
"Well, no, I'm going on vacation, so I didn't refill them last night." He scoffed. "I always carry my cards on me, even when I'm on vacation." I had no response to that - what could I say?
"What about a direct line at work? Is there a phone number I can call where it'll patch me straight through to your voicemail?"
"No," I tried in vain to explain. "We're a tech company; everyone just uses their cell phones". To this day, I don't think my company has a working landline phone in the entire office - our "main line" is a virtual assistant that just forwards calls to our cell phones. I offered to give him the name and phone number of one of our venture partners instead, which he reluctantly accepted.
Around this point, the officer who had taken my NYU ID stormed into the room.
"They put an expiration sticker on your ID, right?" I nodded. "Well then why did this ID expire in 2010?!" he accused.
I took a look at the ID and calmly pointed out that it said "August 2013" in big letters on the ID, and that the numbers "8/10" meant "August 10th, 2013", not "August, 2010". I added, "See, even the expiration sticker says 2013 on it above the date". He studied the ID again for a moment, then walked out of the room again, looking a little embarrassed.
The FBI agent resumed speaking with me. "Do you have any credit cards with your name on them?" I was hesitant to hand them a credit card, but I didn't have much of a choice. Reluctantly, I pulled out a credit card and handed it to him. "What's the limit on it?" he said, and then, noticing that I didn't laugh, quickly added, "That was a joke."
He left the room, and then a series of other NYPD and TSA agents came in and started questioning me, one after the other, with the same questions that I'd already answered previously. In between, I was left alone, except for the officer guarding the door.
At one point, when I went to the door and asked the officer when I could finally get something to drink, he told me, "Just a couple more minutes. You'll be out of here soon."
"That's what they said an hour ago," I complained.
"You also said a lot of things, kid," he said with a wink. "Now sit back down".
I sat back down and waited some more. Another time, I looked up and noticed that a different officer was guarding the door. By this time, I hadn't had any food or water in almost eighteen hours. I could feel the energy draining from me, both physically and mentally, and my head was starting to spin. I went to the door and explained the situation the officer. "At the very least, I really need something to drink."
"Is this a medical emergency? Are you going to pass out? Do we need to call an ambulance?" he asked, skeptically. His tone was almost mocking, conveying more scorn than actual concern or interest.
"No," I responded. I'm not sure why I said that. I was lightheaded enough that I certainly felt like I was going to pass out.
"Are you diabetic?"
"No," I responded.
Again he repeated the familiar refrain. "We'll get you out of here in a few minutes." I sat back down. I was starting to feel cold, even though I was sweating - the same way I often feel when a fever is coming on. But when I put my hand to my forehead, I felt fine.
One of the police officers who questioned me about my job was less-than-familiar with the technology field.
"What type of work do you do?"
"I work in venture capital."
"Venture Capital - is that the thing I see ads for on TV all the time?" For a moment, I was dumbfounded - what venture capital firm advertises on TV? Suddenly, it hit me.
"Oh! You're probably thinking of Capital One Venture credit cards." I said this politely and with a straight face, but unfortunately, the other cop standing in the room burst out laughing immediately. Silently, I was shocked - somehow, this was the interrogation procedure for confirming that I actually had the job I claimed to have.
Another pair of NYPD officers walked in, and one asked me to identify some landmarks around my new apartment. One was, "When you're facing the apartment, is the parking on the left or on the right?" I thought this was an odd question, but I answered it correctly. He whispered something in the ear of the other officer, and they both walked out.
The onslaught of NYPD agents was broken when a South Asian man with a Homeland Security badge walked in and said something that sounded unintelligible. After a second, I realized he was speaking Hindi.
"Sorry, I don't speak Hindi."
"Oh!" he said, noticeably surprised at how "Americanized" this suspect was. We chatted for a few moments, during which time I learned that his family was Pakistani, and that he was Muslim, though he was not fasting for Ramadan. He asked me the standard repertoire of questions that I had been answering for other agents all day.
Finally, the FBI agent returned.
"How are you feeling right now?" he asked. I wasn't sure if he was expressing genuine concern or interrogating me further, but by this point, I had very little energy left.
"A bit nauseous, and very thirsty."
"You'll have to understand, when a person of your... background walks into here, travelling alone, and sets off our alarms, people start to get a bit nervous. I'm sure you've been following what's been going on in the news recently. You've got people from five different branches of government all in here - we don't do this just for fun."
He asked me to repeat some answers to questions that he'd asked me previously, looking down at his notes the whole time, then he left. Finally, two TSA agents entered the room and told me that my checked bag was outside, and that I would be escorted out to the ticketing desks, where I could see if JetBlue would refund my flight.
It was 2:20PM by the time I was finally released from custody. My entire body was shaking uncontrollably, as if I were extremely cold, even though I wasn't. I couldn't identify the emotion I was feeling. Surprisingly, as far as I could tell, I was shaking out of neither fear nor anger - I felt neither of those emotions at the time. The shaking motion was entirely involuntary, and I couldn't force my limbs to be still, no matter how hard I concentrated.
In the end, JetBlue did refund my flight, but they cancelled my entire round-trip ticket. Because I had to rebook on another airline that same day, it ended up costing me about $700 more for the entire trip. Ironically, when I went to the other terminal, I was able to get through security (by walking through the millimeter wave machines) with no problem.
I spent the week in LA, where I was able to tell my family and friends about the entire ordeal. They were appalled by the treatment I had received, but happy to see me safely with them, even if several hours later.
I wish I could say that the story ended there. It almost did. I had no trouble flying back to NYC on a red-eye the next week, in the wee hours of August 12th. But when I returned home the next week, opened the door to my new apartment, and looked around the room, I couldn't help but notice that one of the suitcases sat several inches away from the wall. I could have sworn I pushed everything to the side of the room when I left, but I told myself that I may have just forgotten, since I was in a hurry when I dropped my bags off.
When I entered my bedroom, a chill went down my spine: the photograph on my wall had vanished. I looked around the room, but in vain. My apartment was almost completely empty; there was no wardrobe it could have slipped under, even on the off-chance it had fallen.
To this day, that photograph has not turned up. I can't think of any "rational" explanation for it. Maybe there is one. Maybe a burglar broke into my apartment by picking the front door lock and, finding nothing of monetary value, took only my picture. In order to preserve my peace-of-mind, I've tried to convince myself that that's what happened, so I can sleep comfortably at night.
But no matter how I've tried to rationalize this in the last week and a half, nothing can block out the memory of the chilling sensation I felt that first morning, lying on my air mattress, trying to forget the image of large, uniformed men invading the sanctuary of my home in my absence, wondering when they had done it, wondering why they had done it.
In all my life, I have only felt that same chilling terror once before - on one cold night in September twelve years ago, when I huddled in bed and tried to forget the terrible events in the news that day, wondering why they they had happened, wondering whether everything would be okay ever again.
1:08 pm • 22 August 2013 • 13,911 notes (http://varnull.adityamukerjee.net/post/59021412512/dont-fly-during-ramadan)
Quote"We're not detaining you. You just can't leave."
:!: :!:
Usred Njujorka siledžije prebile transrodnu osobu na smrt :cry: Članak je između ostalog interesantan jer eksplicitno kaže da "dok se svi sad ređamo na Rusiji zbo gnjihove gay hostile legilsative, broj "bisa-crimesa" u Njujorku je zastrašujuće visok" itd.
Transgender Woman Dies After Beating in Front of NYPD Precinct (http://news.yahoo.com/transgender-woman-dies-beating-front-nypd-precinct-201642369.html)
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Islan Nettles was out in New York City with friends when a group of young men approached her, learned she was a transgender woman and began taunting and maliciously beating her—right in front of a police precinct in Harlem.
The fashion design student with delicate features was punched in the face, knocked to the ground and beaten until she lost consciousness on the night of August 16.
"They were called f****, they were called he-she's, she males, things of that nature," Nettles' mother told a local newscast (http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9216983).
Islan Nettles, born Vaughn Nettles, fell into a coma she would never awake from. She died Thursday after being taken off of life support. She was only 21.
The site of the violence, near a police station, highlights a startling increase in crimes against the LBGT, and what some view as a historic lack of police sympathy for crimes against the community.
Nettles' alleged assailant, Paris Wilson, was booked on a misdemeanor assault charge and freed on $2,000 bail. Last Friday, Nettles' death was officially ruled a murder. According to a spokesperson for the New York County District Attorney's Office, Wilson has not yet been arraigned on any murder charges, telling TakePart that "charges will be updated pending further investigation."
That investigation could go on for some time. Wilson's next scheduled court date, isn't until October 4.
The death of Nettles may strike some as a tragic, but otherwise freak incident for a progressive city like New York—one of the birthplaces of the modern LGBT-rights movement.
Statistics show, however, that isn't the case (http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/05/28/gay-rights-activist-attacked-in-new-york-city). The world may be outraged over Russian anti-gay atrocities, but according to the NYPD, anti-LGBT "bias crimes" have nearly doubled since this time last year here in New York City, from 13 to 22 according to the NYPD's most recent report on the issue.
"I don't think people should be shocked [at the death of Nettles]," says Shelby Chestnut, codirector of community organizing and public advocacy for the New York Anti-Violence Project. "This happens more regularly than the media reports. We see this type of violence all the time."
Back in May, Eugene Lovendusky, cofounder of the LGBT rights group Queer Rising, was assaulted by a 19-year-old man after being bombarded with anti-gay epithets. Lovendusky's assault came amid a series of high-profile hate crimes against New York LGBT residents—most notably the May 17 murder of 32-year-old gay man Mark Carson, who was shot to death in the streets of New York after being called "faggot" and "queer" by his assailants.
Chestnut says her organization has seen a major uptick in anti-LGBT assaults this year. That said, the problem of anti-LBGT violence has always existed, she says. Reporting is improving, which could account for some of the increase.
Police mistrust, and a general lack of empathy, particularly towards the transgender and people of color, have hampered efforts to document anti-LGBT incidents of violence in the past.
"I don't want to suggest [our stat] means more violence. These incidents may finally be reporting what has been happening in the streets for a long time."
If nothing else, Chestnut hopes Nettles' death will bring to light the tremendous violence faced by transgender women—particularly transgender women of color.
Seventy-two percent of anti-LGBT murders in America affected people of color and 53 percent of those were transgender women, Chestnut said.
The only way to end anti-LGBT violence is to keep talking about it and let the public know that incidents like the one that left Nettles dead are hardly uncommon, Chestnut said. Victims of hate violence also need to have the courage to come forward and tell their stories.
"Reporting violence helps end violence," says Chestnut. "Unless we know where violence is occurring, we can't do outreach in the area. We can't reach out to the general public know that anti-LGBT violence shouldn't be tolerated."
Related stories on TakePart:
• LGBT Victims of Violence: 'Going to the Cops Will Only Make It Worse' (http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/06/06/lgbt-victims-cops-make-it-worse)
• 8 LGBT Movie Characters That Furthered Gay Rights (http://www.takepart.com/photos/10-lgbt-movie-characters-helped-further-gay-rights)
• A Surprising State Introduces Anti-LGBTQ Legislation (http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/04/27/Washington-state-anti-gay-senate-bill)
• Transgender Healthcare: A Work in Progress (http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/10/12/transgender-healthcare-work-progress)
Original article (http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/08/26/another-day-another-anti-lgbt-violent-attack-new-york-city) from TakePart
Јадни смо, па ово само код нас може...
Quote from: Деда Милоје on 27-08-2013, 12:30:21
Јадни смо, па ово само код нас може...
priznaj, harv, da ti je sad lakše da budeš homofob kad znaš da takva stoka caruje i usred njujorka!
Sace i onaj Gej iz Prizon Brejka da ne ide u Njujork xrofl
Suvogenijalno. :(
http://www.salon.com/2011/03/18/libya_2/ (http://www.salon.com/2011/03/18/libya_2/)
Pa ovaj Grinvald već godinama rovari protiv naroda i države (i to tuđeg naroda i tuđe države)!!!! :-? :-? Nije ni čudo što su mu dečka onako tretirali.
Quote from: Ugly MF on 27-08-2013, 13:16:43
Sace i onaj Gej iz Prizon Brejka da ne ide u Njujork xrofl
:!:
Quote from: Ghoul on 27-08-2013, 12:44:53
Quote from: Деда Милоје on 27-08-2013, 12:30:21
Јадни смо, па ово само код нас може...
priznaj, harv, da ti je sad lakše da budeš homofob kad znaš da takva stoka caruje i usred njujorka!
Одакле ти да сам ја хомофоб? То си ти нешто погрешно прочитао. Ја имам страх само од висине и од змија. И клаустрофобију.
Quote from: Деда Милоје on 27-08-2013, 22:40:12
Quote from: Ghoul on 27-08-2013, 12:44:53
Quote from: Деда Милоје on 27-08-2013, 12:30:21
Јадни смо, па ово само код нас може...
priznaj, harv, da ti je sad lakše da budeš homofob kad znaš da takva stoka caruje i usred njujorka!
Одакле ти да сам ја хомофоб? То си ти нешто погрешно прочитао. Ја имам страх само од висине и од змија. И клаустрофобију.
A ako su zmije gej?
Meni muka (a daleko od toga da mislim da je Asad cvećka):
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/26/syria-warplanes-cyprus-tensions-damascus (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/26/syria-warplanes-cyprus-tensions-damascus)
Zvučaću ko Kalimero i sve ovo naravno već znamo al ajde:
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/08/26/cia-files-show-america-helped-saddam-hussein-as-he-gassed-iran/ (http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/08/26/cia-files-show-america-helped-saddam-hussein-as-he-gassed-iran/)
Na stranu to sto imam ozbiljan problem sa konceptom "bombardovanje iz humanitarnih razloga" . http://mobile.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/08/27/syria_intervention_cost_military_strikes_are_a_highly_cost_ineffective_way.html?original_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eschatonblog.com%2F2013%2F08%2Fhumanitarian-interventionists.html%3Fm%3D1 (http://mobile.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/08/27/syria_intervention_cost_military_strikes_are_a_highly_cost_ineffective_way.html?original_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eschatonblog.com%2F2013%2F08%2Fhumanitarian-interventionists.html%3Fm%3D1)
Дал ће Стивен Фрај да реагује?
Ponovo je vreme da čovek malo povrati u svoja usta...
US readies rationale for possible Syria strike (http://news.yahoo.com/us-readies-rationale-possible-syria-strike-210758180.html)
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration tried to bolster its case Tuesday for possible military action against Syria within days, with intelligence agencies preparing to release intercepted communications aimed at proving Bashar Assad perpetrated a large-scale chemical weapons attack on civilians. "There's no doubt who is responsible for this heinous use of chemical weapons in Syria: the Syrian regime," Vice President Joe Biden said.
The U.S. and international partners were unlikely to undertake military action before Thursday. That's when British Prime Minister David Cameron will convene an emergency meeting of Parliament where lawmakers are expected to vote on a motion clearing the way for a British response to the alleged chemical weapons attack.
President Barack Obama and Cameron conferred on response plans Tuesday, their second known conversation in recent days.
Administration officials argued that Assad's actions posed a direct threat to U.S. national security, providing Obama with a potential legal justification for launching a strike without authorization from the United Nations or Congress. However, officials did not detail how the U.S. was directly threatened by an attack contained within Syria's borders. Nor did they present concrete proof that Assad was responsible.
"Allowing the use of chemical weapons on a significant scale to take place without a response would present a significant challenge to, threat to the United States' national security," White House spokesman Jay Carney said.
Assad has denied using chemical weapons, calling the allegations "preposterous."
Obama is weighing a response focused narrowly on punishing Assad for violating international agreements that ban the use of chemical weapons, an act the president repeatedly has said would cross a "red line." Officials said the goal was not to drive the Syrian leader from power or impact the broader trajectory of Syria's bloody civil war, which is now in its third year.
"The options we are considering are not about regime change," Carney told reporters.
According to U.S. officials, the most likely operation would be largely sea-based, with the strikes coming primarily from Navy warships in the Mediterranean Sea. Fighter jets often are deployed to monitor the area and protect the ships, but Syria's robust air defense system makes air strikes more difficult and risky.
Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said military forces stand ready to strike Syria immediately if the commander in chief gives the order. The Navy has four destroyers in the eastern Mediterranean within range of targets inside Syria and also has warplanes in the region.
"We are ready to go," Hagel said during a television interview while traveling in Asia.
Ahead of any strike, the U.S. also plans to release additional intelligence it says will directly link Assad to the Aug. 21 attack in the Damascus suburbs. Syrian activists say hundreds of people were killed in the attack. A U.S. official said the intelligence report is expected to include "signals intelligence" — information gathered from intercepted communications.
All of the officials insisted on anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the internal deliberations.
Even before releasing that information, U.S. officials said they had very little doubt that Assad was culpable in the attack based on witness reports, information on the number of victims and the symptoms of those killed or injured, and intelligence showing the Syrian government has not lost control of its chemical weapons stockpiles.
Other administration officials echoed Biden's comments, which marked a subtle shift in the administration's rhetoric on who bears responsibility for the attack. Earlier in the week officials would say only that there was "very little doubt" Assad was responsible.
Obama, Biden and other senior administration officials have spent much of the week seeking to rally international support for an aggressive response to the chemical weapons attack. The president spoke Tuesday with Prime Minister Stephen Harper of Canada, a NATO ally, and has also talked to French President Francois Hollande and Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.
Along with Britain, France appears poised to back the U.S. response. In Paris, Hollande said Tuesday that France was "ready to punish those who took the heinous decision to gas innocents." The Arab League, a 22-member body dominated by Saudi Arabia and Qatar, also called for justice, laying blame for the attack on the Syrian government.
Italy, meanwhile, was insisting that any strike should be authorized by the U.N. Security Council.
The flurry of action was in stark contrast to Obama's previously restrained approach to Syria's civil war, which has left more than 100,000 people dead, according to U.N. estimates. He has resisted calls for a more robust U.S. response, underscoring the scant appetite among the American public for a long involvement in another Middle East war.
Even after the latest use of chemical weapons, the president has ruled out putting American troops on the ground in Syria and officials said they were not considering setting up a unilateral no-fly zone.
Instead, officials said it was likely missiles could be used to target weapons arsenals, command and control centers, radar and communications facilities, and other military headquarters. Less likely was a strike on a chemical weapons site because of the risk of releasing toxic gases.
Military experts and U.S. officials said the strikes probably would come during the night and target key military sites.
The Obama administration's desire to respond quickly to last week's attack likely puts the president in the position of taking military action without formal approval from the United Nations. Russia, which has helped prop up Assad throughout the civil war, is certain to block U.S. attempts to seek a resolution approving force at the U.N. Security Council.
It's unclear whether the president will seek some type of authorization from Congress, which is out of session until Sept. 9. Rep. Scott Rigell, R-Va., is asking colleagues to sign a letter to Obama that urges him to reconvene Congress and seek approval for any military action.
The 1973 War Powers Resolution reaffirmed Congress' constitutional responsibility to declare war and put a 60-day time limit on the president's ability to take unauthorized, emergency military action. Since then, commanders in chief of both political parties have maintained that the resolution is unconstitutional and have regularly disregarded it.
When the U.S. acted with allies against Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi two years ago, Obama maintained military operations for more than three months without congressional authorization. He said the U.S. wasn't violating the War Powers Resolution because Americans were supporting a NATO-led operation and weren't engaged in full-blown hostilities.
xrofl xrofl xrofl
http://www.kurir-info.rs/monasi-sa-hilandara-obama-ne-mozes-na-svetu-goru-clanak-956123 (http://www.kurir-info.rs/monasi-sa-hilandara-obama-ne-mozes-na-svetu-goru-clanak-956123)
The Great Deception: Obama and the Coming War *PLEASE SHARE* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxavh18amsQ#ws)
Prvih 10 minuta je do jaja!
Jos kad bi Obama znao sta je Hilandar
Ovi Amerikanci su stvarno sve luđi.
http://www.cracked.com/article_20595_5-things-everyone-did-growing-up-that-now-get-you-arrested.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_20595_5-things-everyone-did-growing-up-that-now-get-you-arrested.html)
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/03/20308673-n-word-put-on-trial-in-nyc-workplace-case?lite= (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/03/20308673-n-word-put-on-trial-in-nyc-workplace-case?lite=)
Support for Syria from the people of Serbia!
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-27mNYiUK4hg%2FUiT3TCtJtGI%2FAAAAAAAAVps%2FyoFZx65Mpuc%2Fs1600%2Fs2.jpg&hash=a4b66e55f1554a91b9486b770ed6857593e003fe)
http://abraxas365dokumentarci.blogspot.com/2013/09/support-for-syria-from-people-of-serbia.html (http://abraxas365dokumentarci.blogspot.com/2013/09/support-for-syria-from-people-of-serbia.html)
Iskreno, jebe mi se za ovog Basara i ostale pičke političke, al' svakako treba stati u jedan front i podržati nevini narod Sirije koji će zasigurno najviše postradati u ovom sramotnom bombardovanju!
NATO mass murderers - HANDS OFF SYRIA!
PRVO IH JEBU I MLATE
A ONDA IH TERAJU DA PLATE!
THAT'S THE AMERICAN WAY!!!
Abu Ghraib Torture Victims Ordered To Pay U.S. Contractor's Legal Fees
WASHINGTON -- A federal judge on Wednesday ordered four Iraqis who were imprisoned at the infamous Abu Ghraib prison to pay nearly $14,000 in legal fees to defense contractor CACI, an Arlington, Va.-based company that supplied interrogators to the U.S. government during the Iraq War.
The decision in favor of CACI stemmed from a lawsuit filed by the former prisoners in 2008, alleging that CACI employees directed the torture of prisoners at Abu Ghraib. The suit was dismissed in June, when U.S. District Judge Gerald Bruce Lee ruled that because the alleged acts took place on foreign soil, CACI was "immune from suit" in U.S. court.
Lee did not, however, directly address the question of whether CACI employees took part in the mistreatment of prisoners. The treatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib exploded into an international scandal in 2004, when shocking photos emerged of prisoners being stacked on top of each other, threatened with dogs, and sexually abused.
A little over a month after winning the dismissal this summer, CACI requested that the former prisoners be ordered to pay $15,580 to cover the company's legal expenses.
Lawyers for the Iraqis disputed that their clients should pay CACI's bills, partly because the Iraqis had "very limited financial means, even by non-U.S. standards, and dramatically so when compared" to CACI, according to a court filing. Moreover, they wrote, the initial claims against CACI, involving "serious claims of torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment, and war crimes were dismissed on very close, difficult -- and only recently arguable -- grounds."
Attorneys for the Iraqi prisoners have said they plan to file an appeal of the June dismissal this fall.
CACI did not respond to a request for comment on the ruling.
The massive defense contractor has long denied allegations that its employees abused or directed others to abuse prisoners at Abu Ghraib. A statement on CACI's website notes that "Neither CACI nor any of its employees have been found or proven to be involved in" or "participated in" or "charged" with abuse, nor have they been indicted for "directing abuse."
In 2008, CACI's executive chairman, J. Phillip "Jack" London, wrote a book in defense of the company titled Our Good Name: A Company's Fight to Defend Its Honor and Get the Truth Told About Abu Ghraib.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/06/abu-ghraib-iraq_n_3876177.html?ncid=txtlnkushpmg00000037 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/06/abu-ghraib-iraq_n_3876177.html?ncid=txtlnkushpmg00000037)
Quote from: Ghoul on 06-09-2013, 19:49:38
The suit was dismissed in June, when U.S. District Judge Gerald Bruce Lee ruled that because the alleged acts took place on foreign soil, CACI was "immune from suit" in U.S. court.
Prajsles. A pošto Ameri ionako ne vole da strani sudovi sude njihovim građanima kad rade za državu (kao u ovom slučaju), onda su mudro pokrili sve opcije.
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/09/20407919-adopted-girl-says-new-mom-slept-naked-with-her?lite (http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/09/20407919-adopted-girl-says-new-mom-slept-naked-with-her?lite)
dobro, hoce li netko vec jednom svemu stati na kraj i promijeniti svijet na bolje? ja ne mogu, previse sam dragocjen.
Eto, Inkvizicija je to pokusala tamo po katolickom zapadnom svetu, al izgleda nije zavrsila posao... :twisted:
Jbs inkviziciju. Slusaj mene. Neces u raj, ali spomenem tvoju plemenitu zrtvu u memoarima. Ovako dalje ne moze. Ucinite nesto!
A i Allah Velicanstveni ce te nagraditi. Zbrine ti napornu zenu, a tebi djevice!
Hm, zadnja ponuda: Sve navedeno + hit! Ispjevam hit! Onako, Ugly moooojaaaaa, diiiivna mila...
Ma pojede mi post....
Ukratko,
obuci majcu sa likom gen.Draze Mihajlovica i prosetaj lijepom vasom.....
Allah Premudri te kaznjava!
A tvoj prijedlog, e bolane, pa nije Ahmed blesav! Znas da imam i partizanku na glavi? Ahmed je mozak!
Retardiranost u Americi se nastavlja. Petnaestogodišnjak je uhapšen i krivično optužen jer je, nakon što je maltretiran u školi, na telefon instalirao aplikaciju koja simulira FPS interfejs kojim onda "pucaš" na ljude koje vidiš kroz kameru na telefonu, snimio futidž kako koristi tu aplikaciju da "puca" na te likove iz škole koji su ga maltretirali i onda to okačio na JuTjub. Uhapšen je jer je "opstruirao školski rad" i "pretio smrću".
Dok, naravno ne mislim da treba na JuTjub kačiti futidž u kome se prikazuje makar virtualno ubijanje dece, hapšenje i krivična tužba su... tipično američki idiotizam. Nešto što treba da se reši na nivou roditelja i školskih profesionalaca se prebacuje u krilo države a posle će da kukaju kako imaju "nanny state"...
Student arrested for using phone app to "shoot" classmates (http://wgno.com/2013/09/12/a-student-accused-of-using-a-mobile-app/#axzz2eqjLmHTM)
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GRAY, LA (WGNO) – A student at H. L. Bourgeois High School accused of using a mobile phone app to simulate shooting his classmates was booked and jailed in Terrebonne Parish.
The app is called "The Real Strike (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/real-strike-original-3d-augmented/id507884100?mt=8)" and simulates a first person shooter game, except the battleground is real life.
"You can't ignore it," says Major Malcolm Wolfe. "We don't know at what time that game becomes reality."
Wolfe office says a 15-year-old was arrested after posting a video on YouTube using the Real Strike app to shoot other kids at school, "He said it was a result of him being frustrated and tired of being bullied. He said that he had no intentions of hurting anybody. We have to take all threats seriously and we have no way of knowing that without investigating and getting to the bottom of it."
He says the student was arrested for terrorizing and interference of the operation of a school.
"With all the school shooting we've had in the United States, it's just not a very good game to be playing at this time," according to Wolfe.
Parents told investigators their son does not have access to any fire arms.
The YouTube video was taken down.
u jbt! hoce li netko zaustaviti i huligane u americi? jesu u manjini, ali ovo sto su radili ne smiju raditi!
Quote from: zosko on 16-09-2013, 12:51:58
u jbt! hoce li netko zaustaviti i huligane u americi? jesu u manjini, ali ovo sto su radili ne smiju raditi!
žoško, krajnje je vreme da preduzmeš nešto!
dokle ćeš samo da se naslađuješ ovako, sa strane?!
previse sam dragocjen da bih prljao ruke oruzjem i krvlju. ja sam, brate, e, leader!
QuoteA few years after the first World Trade Center bombing, I was broke again, and my downstairs neighbor, a piano teacher, said that he could cut me in on a deal for some extra cash. All I had to do was put on a toga and a hockey mask and listen to this old naked guy talk about his arcane Vietnam War sex fantasy while my neighbor shoved a bottle up his ass. It paid like $200. Worth every penny.
Samo da notiramo pucnjavu koja se juče desila u Vašingtonu:
http://news.yahoo.com/shots-fired-at-washington-navy-yard--u-s--navy-confirms-130407614.html (http://news.yahoo.com/shots-fired-at-washington-navy-yard--u-s--navy-confirms-130407614.html)
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WASHINGTON — The FBI is asking the public for help in determining why a former Navy reservist opened fire early Monday at the Washington Navy Yard, killing at least 12 people before he was shot dead by police.
The suspected gunman was identified by the FBI as Aaron Alexis (http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/aaron-alexis/person_view_multimedia#images), a 34-year-old civilian contractor from Queens, N.Y., who most recently resided in Fort Worth, Texas. The FBI asked the public to contact the bureau with any tips related to the shooter.
"This investigation is still very active," Valerie Parlave, the FBI's assistant director-in-charge, said at a news conference. "No piece of information is too small."
According to a bio released by the U.S. Navy (http://www.navy.mil/docs/Alexis_Aaron.pdf), Alexis was a full-time reservist from 2007 to 2011. He left the Navy on Jan. 31, 2011, as a petty officer 3rd class and had been working for the fleet logistics support squadron No. 46 in Fort Worth.
Washington Mayor Vincent Gray said Alexis was shot during a gun battle with officers.
[Full coverage: Washington Navy Yard shooting (http://news.yahoo.com/breaking-news/navy-yard-shooting/)]
Alexis was arrested in Fort Worth in 2010 for discharging a firearm in city limits, police records show. Alexis told police he had fired the gun accidentally when he was cleaning it, according to a police report filed with the Tarrant County Criminal District Attorney's Office. Charges were never filed.
Alexis was also arrested in Seattle in 2004, according to the Seattle Police Department (http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2013/09/16/suspect-in-navy-yard-attack-previously-arrested-in-seattle-for-anger-fueled-shooting/), for "shooting out the tires of another man's vehicle in what Alexis later described as an anger-fueled 'blackout.'"
A Navy official told Reuters (http://news.yahoo.com/suspected-u-shooter-discharged-navy-misconduct-213525471.html) Alexis received a general discharge from the Navy in 2011 "after a series of misconduct issues."
The Navy Yard was placed on lockdown after shots were fired inside a building on the base, the Navy said. A Metro police officer and naval base officer were among those injured in the shooting, according to the D.C. Metro Police.
"As far as we know, it's an isolated incident," Gray said. "We don't have any known motive at this juncture."
The mayor said there was "no reason at this stage" to believe it was terrorism, but would not rule it out.
Gray said the victims ranged in age from 46 to 73, and were either civilians or contractors.
Authorities were initially seeking two additional suspects based on witness accounts and surveillance footage, but later ruled them out and determined Alexis acted alone.
Before a scheduled economic speech at the White House, President Barack Obama deplored "yet another mass shooting" — this one targeting military and civilian personnel.
"These are men and women who were going to work, doing their job, protecting all of us," Obama said. "They're patriots, and they know the dangers of serving abroad. But today they faced the unimaginable: violence that they wouldn't have expected here at home."
"We will do everything in our power to make sure that whoever carried out this cowardly act is held responsible," the president added. "I want the investigation to be seamless."
Janis Orlowski, chief medical officer at Washington Hospital Center, said one Metropolitan Police officer and two civilians are being treated there. All three arrived in critical condition, Orlowski said, but are expected to make a full recovery.
One was shot in the legs, another in the shoulder. Those victims were in surgery, Orlowski said. A woman who was shot in the head and hand would not need surgery because the bullet did not penetrate her skull.
The Navy said shots were fired at the Naval Sea Systems Command Headquarters building on the base at 8:20 a.m., and a "shelter in place" order was issued (http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=76609) for Navy Yard personnel.
Rick Mason, a program management specialist, told Yahoo News he was on the fourth floor when he saw someone with a gun aiming down into the atrium. The gunman, Mason said, was targeting people who walked into the cafeteria.
Other employees described a chaotic scene.
"We heard two shots and started wondering if that was the sound of someone dropping something or if they were really shots," Omar Grant, a civilian employee at the Navy Yard who was on the first floor of the atrium, said. "We heard three more shots, and that's when people started running out of the building and getting the hell out of there."
Grant then led a blind colleague to safety (http://news.yahoo.com/washington-navy-yard-shootings--hero-navy-worker-leads-blind-colleague-to-safety-150418802.html#uTaLmnC).
Approximately 3,000 people work in the building, the Navy said, though it's unclear how many people were inside at the time of the shooting.
The U.S. Senate complex was locked down "in light of the uncertainty surrounding the shooting at the Navy Yard this morning and particularly the possibility of suspects remaining at large," the Senate said in an alert to staffers. "You may move about the building; however, for the next two hours you may not leave nor can anyone enter the building."
A White House official said the president had been briefed several times throughout the morning about the unfolding situation at the Navy Yard by assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism Lisa Monaco and deputy chief of staff Alyssa Mastromanaco.
A heavy SWAT and police presence could be seen around the Navy Yard. Outside the base, employees sat huddled, crying and holding each other. At least one of the victims was airlifted from the scene, as helicopters circled overhead.
A temporary ground stop was ordered at Reagan National Airport, and schools in the area were placed on temporary lockdown.
The 41-acre Navy Yard, located five blocks from Nationals Stadium and a mile and a half from the Capitol, is home to the chief of naval operations and headquarters for the Naval Historical Center and numerous naval commands.
The Washington Nationals postponed (http://curlyw.mlblogs.com/2013/09/16/nationals-official-statement-about-navy-yard-tragedy/) Monday's home game against the Atlanta Braves in the wake of the tragedy. The parking lot at the ballpark was used to reunite Navy Yard employees with their family members.
According to the Navy's website, Naval Sea Systems "engineers, builds, buys and maintains the Navy's ships and submarines and their combat systems." Approximately 60,000 people work there.
— With Olivier Knox reporting from the White House.
Već smo negde na ovom topiku pisali o HFT-u. Evo sad kako stvari dolaze do apsurdnih, grotesknih proporcija. Federalne vlasti u Americi su pre neki dan objavile informaciju koja potencijalno omogućava solidno berzansko bogaćenje firmama koje brzo reaguju. Informacija je objavljena u Vašingtonu u dva popodne računajući po atomskom satu u istom gradu. Da bi ova informacija brzinom svetlosti stigla do Čikaga, potrebno je sedam milisekundi (mada bloger koga dole citiram kaže da u teoriji fajber optik kabl možda može da je prenese za 3,2 milisekunde i, ako se neko istrošio za neutrino-tunel, možda može da se govori i o svega tri milisekunde), a ipak je nekoliko velikih zahteva objavljeno jedva dve milisekunde posle dva popodne.
Sad, ovo je bizarna situacija u kojoj se susreću fizika i pravo. Po zakonu, ako si imao informaciju pre nego što je javno objavljena i iskoristio je na nefer način, to jest da ostvariš poslovnu prednost i zaradu, to je "insider trading" odnosno klasična korupcija koja se kažnjava. Sad, firme koje su odradile ovaj posao su tehnički gledano informaciju iskoristile
nakon što je postala javna, ali, čisto tehnički gledano pre nego što je ta informacija mogla uopšte da stigne do njih. Dakle, svima je jasno da su imali insajderske informacije iako, opet tehnički, nisu prekršili zakon. Bilo bi do jaja da ovo stigne na sud i da slušamo raspravu. :lol:
Somebody Stole 7 Milliseconds From the Federal Reserve (http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/09/somebody-stole-7-milliseconds-federal-reserve)
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Last Wednesday, the Fed announced that it would not be tapering its bond buying program. This news was released at precisely 2 p.m. in Washington "as measured by the national atomic clock." It takes seven milliseconds for this information to get to Chicago. However, several huge orders that were based on the Fed's decision were placed on Chicago exchanges two to three milliseconds after 2 p.m. How did this happen?
CNBC has the story here, (http://www.cnbc.com/id/101056168) and the answer is: We don't know. Reporters get the Fed release early, but they get it in a secure room and aren't permitted to communicate with the outside world until precisely 2 p.m. Still, maybe someone figured out a way to game the embargo. It would certainly be worth a ton of money. Investigations are ongoing, but Neil Irwin has this to say: (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/24/traders-may-have-gotten-last-weeks-fed-news-7-milliseconds-early/)
In the meantime, there's another useful lesson out of the whole episode. It is the reality of how much trading activity, particularly of the ultra-high-frequency variety is really a dead weight loss for society.
...There is a role in [capital] markets for traders whose work is more speculative...But when taken to its logical extremes, such as computers exploiting five millisecond advantages in the transfer of market-moving information, it's much less clear that society gains anything...In the high-frequency trading business, billions of dollars are spent on high-speed lines, programming talent, and advanced computers by funds looking to capitalize on the smallest and most fleeting of mispricings. Those are computing resources and insanely intelligent people who could instead be put to work making the Internet run faster for everyone, or figuring out how to distribute electricity more efficiently, or really anything other than trying to figure out how to trade gold futures on the latest Fed announcement faster than the speed of light.
Yep. I'm not sure what to do about it, though. A tiny transaction tax still seems like a workable solution, although there are several real-world issues with it. Worth a look, though.
In a related vein, let's talk a bit more about this seven millisecond figure. That might very well be how long it takes a signal to travel from Washington, DC, to Chicago via a fiber-optic cable, but in fact the two cities are only 960 kilometers apart. At the speed of light, that's 3.2 milliseconds. A straight line path would be a bit less, perhaps 3 milliseconds. So maybe someone has managed to set up a neutrino communications network that transmits directly through the earth. It couldn't transfer very much information, but if all you needed was a few dozen bits (taper/no taper, interest rates up/down, etc.) it might work a treat. Did anyone happen to notice an extra neutrino flux in the upper Midwest corridor at 2 p.m. last Wednesday? Perhaps Wall Street has now co-opted not just the math geek community, and not just the physics geek community, but the experimental physics geek community. Wouldn't that be great?
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-krokodil-heroin-arizona-20130927,0,7644763.story (http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-krokodil-heroin-arizona-20130927,0,7644763.story)
QuoteThe new drug, known as Krokodil, leaves users with lizard-like scaly skin
Obami su podmetnuli nogu. Obamaker neće tako lako zaskočiti Amerikance, dok se Republikanci tu nešto pitaju:
House votes to avoid shutdown, delay Obamacare (http://news.yahoo.com/house-votes-avoid-shutdown-delay-obamacare-042115504--politics.html)
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Republican-run House has voted to avoid a partial government shutdown next week but also delay President Barack Obama's health care law.
Because of that condition, the White House has promised the overall legislation will be vetoed. That means the two sides are edging closer to a shutdown of many federal services Tuesday morning, with no obvious solution in sight.
The House sent the legislation to the Democratic-run Senate early Sunday by 231-192.
The bill would delay much of the 2010 health care overhaul for a year. It would also repeal a tax on medical devices that helps finance the health care law.
The shutdown bill will probably never reach Obama because the Senate's majority leader, Nevada Democrat Harry Reid, says his chamber will reject the measure first.
Congress misses deadline for averting shutdown (http://news.yahoo.com/congress-misses-deadline-averting-shutdown-040303946--politics.html)
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Congress has missed the deadline for averting the first partial government shutdown in 17 years.
As the clock struck midnight Monday, House Republicans were demanding that the Senate negotiate their demand for a one-year delay in making millions of people buy health insurance under President Barack Obama's 2010 health care law. Minutes before midnight, the White House ordered a shutdown.
The Democratic Senate on Monday twice rejected GOP demands to delay key portions of what has become to known as Obamacare as a condition for keeping the government open.
An estimated 800,000 federal workers faced furloughs though many were told work a half day Tuesday. Critical functions like air traffic control and military operations will continue. Social Security benefits will be paid. National parks and most federal offices will close.
Čoveka puštaju iz zatvora (samice!) posle 41 godine jer je zaključeno da mu je suđenjem na kome u poroti nije bila ni jedna žena narušeno ljudsko pravo garantovano 14. članom američkog ustava. Rano su se setili...
La prisoner freed after 41 years of solitary (http://news.yahoo.com/la-prisoner-freed-41-years-solitary-013853299.html)
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NEW ORLEANS (AP) — A 71-year-old Louisiana prisoner who spent 41 years in solitary confinement and is now dying of cancer was released late Tuesday from prison, his attorneys said.
Late Tuesday, U.S. District Chief Judge Brian Jackson in Baton Rouge denied the state's motion seeking to block his earlier order overturning Herman Wallace's 1974 murder conviction in the death of Angola guard Brent Miller.
Jackson had also ordered a new trial because women were unconstitutionally excluded from the grand jury that indicted Wallace in the guard's death. And, he ordered him immediately released.
Wallace's attorneys said the freed prisoner left a correctional center in St. Gabriel by ambulance Tuesday evening and was expected to go to LSU Interim Hospital in New Orleans for treatment of advanced terminal liver cancer.
"Tonight, Herman Wallace has left the walls of Louisiana prisons and will be able to receive the medical care that his advanced liver cancer requires," his legal team said in a statement.
Earlier Tuesday, Jackson overturned Wallace's 1974 murder conviction in Miller's death.
"The record in this case makes clear that Mr. Wallace's grand jury was improperly chosen in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment's guarantee of 'the equal protection of the laws' ... and that the Louisiana courts, when presented with the opportunity to correct this error, failed to do so," Jackson wrote.
He added, "Our Constitution requires this result even where, as here, it means overturning Mr. Wallace's conviction nearly forty years after it was entered."
George Kendall, one of Wallace's attorneys, told The Associated Press in an earlier telephone interview the decision gives his client "some measure of justice after a lifetime of injustice," but his response was tempered by the grim outlook for Wallace's health.
"He's pleased," Kendall said of Wallace's reaction after hearing of Tuesday's ruling, "but he's quite ill."
Wallace, whose birthday is Oct. 13, has been diagnosed with terminal liver cancer. Kendall said he "ceased receiving treatment a couple of weeks ago."
Kendall said the state had filed notice it would appeal Jackson's ruling. A telephone message left with East Baton Rouge Parish District Attorney Hillar C. Moore III's office was not immediately returned. The state Department of Public Safety and Corrections referred all questions to Moore's office.
Wallace and two other inmates convicted in the 23-year-old guard's slaying came to be known as the "Angola 3."
Wallace, of New Orleans, was serving a 50-year armed robbery sentence when Miller was fatally stabbed in 1972. Wallace and the two others convicted in Miller's death were moved to isolation at the Louisiana State Penitentiary in Angola. In 2009, Wallace was moved to "closed-cell restriction" at Hunt Correctional in St. Gabriel and recently was taken to the prison's hospital unit.
Kendall said his client has asked that, after his demise, they continue to press the lawsuit challenging Wallace's "unconstitutional confinement in solitary confinement for four decades."
"It is Mr. Wallace's hope that this litigation will help ensure that others, including his lifelong friend and fellow 'Angola 3' member, Albert Woodfox, do not continue to suffer such cruel and unusual confinement even after Mr. Wallace is gone," his legal team said in a written statement.
Kendall said Woodfox won full habeas relief last year but the state has appealed that as well. The case is pending before the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
In 2010, Woodfox was moved to the David Wade Correctional Center in Homer, where he remains in custody.
Woodfox and Wallace have continued to deny involvement in Miller's killing and say they were targeted because they helped establish a prison chapter of the Black Panther Party at the Angola prison in 1971, set up demonstrations and organized strikes for better conditions in the prison.
Amnesty International USA last year delivered a petition to Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's office, containing 65,000 signatures from people around the world who called the men's solitary confinement inhuman and degrading.
The group's executive director, Steven W. Hawkins, welcomed the court's ruling involving Wallace. "Tragically, this step toward justice has come as Herman is dying from cancer with only days or hours left to live," he said in a statement. "No ruling can erase the cruel, inhuman and degrading prison conditions he endured for more than 41 years."
The third man, Robert King, was released after 29 years in solitary confinement. King, convicted of killing a fellow inmate in 1973, was released in 2001 after his conviction was reversed and he pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of conspiracy to commit murder.
čini mi se da je zbog njih cijeli svijet opet na ivici
jbt treba izvršiti kakvu invaziju na njih i stavit ih pod protektorat :|
Treba poslati one Korejce ko u filmu :)
14 Surprising Things Americans Don't Know, According To Poll Numbers
Surprising???
http://thoughtcatalog.com/2013/14-surprising-things-americans-dont-know-according-to-poll-numbers/ (http://thoughtcatalog.com/2013/14-surprising-things-americans-dont-know-according-to-poll-numbers/)
Čujte, možda ljudi koji žive u staklenim kućama itd. itd.
Prijemni ispit za starlete (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuIxIjK9XX8#)
A da pokažemo da su glasine o američkoj propasti možda blago preuranjene (ekonomskoj makar, moralna im se već desila), evo vesti da su SAD sada veći proizvođač nafte i gasa i od Saudijske Arabije i od Majčice Rusije:
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/energy-ticker/2013/10/04/move-over-russia-u-s-is-now-the-worlds-biggest-oil-gas-producer/ (http://blogs.marketwatch.com/energy-ticker/2013/10/04/move-over-russia-u-s-is-now-the-worlds-biggest-oil-gas-producer/)
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The U.S. will end 2013 as the world's largest producer of petroleum and natural gas, surpassing Russia and Saudi Arabia, the Energy Information Administration said Friday.
The EIA estimated combined U.S. petroleum and gas production this year will hit 50 quadrillion British thermal units, or 25 million barrels of oil equivalent a day, outproducing Russia by 5 quadrillion Btu.
Petroleum production includes crude oil, natural gas liquids, condensates, and biofuels.
U.S. and Russian energy production over the past two years have been roughly equivalent. Since 2008, U.S. petroleum production has increased 7 quadrillion Btu, with "dramatic" growth in Texas and North Dakota, the EIA said.
U.S. natural gas production has risen 3 quadrillion Btu over the same period, the agency said, while Russia and Saudi Arabia each increased their combined petroleum and natural gas production by about 1 quadrillion Btu since 2008, the EIA said.
The EIA data confirm an analysis by The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, saying the U.S. was poised to overtake Russia (http://blogs.marketwatch.com/energy-ticker/2013/10/02/u-s-to-overtake-russia-as-worlds-top-oil-and-gas-producer-wsj/) as the world's largest producer this year — if it hasn't already.
Tapping shale rock for oil and gas has fueled the U.S. boom, while Russia has struggled to keep up its output. The domestic energy boom is reshaping oil markets and chipping away at the political clout long held by petroleum-rich countries, the Journal said.
To treba posmatrati sa druge tačke gledišta: Do sada su arčili tuđe resurse.
A može i ovako: koliko ovo ekološku štetu izaziva najbolje pokazuje dokumentarac "Gasland", a i na internetu ima dosta o tome čak i na srpskom, zbog Aleksinca. Barel nafte dobijene iz škriljaca emituje od dva do osam puta više gasova koji izazivaju efekat staklene bašte od nafte dobijene na drugi način. Dalje, za razliku od nafte koja se pumpa iz zemlje i koja stvara energetski suficit u procesu proizvodnje, ukupna količina energije koja se stvori ovim načinom je manja od one koja je potrebna da bi se napravio barel. Tako je ovo način da se jedna energija pretvori u drugu, uz uništavanje obradivog zemljišta. Dosta dobar tekst: http://owni.eu/2011/02/14/shale-gas-energy-revolution-or-ecological-threat/ (http://owni.eu/2011/02/14/shale-gas-energy-revolution-or-ecological-threat/)
Ma, sve je to strategija "sečeš uši krpiš dupe". I te naše škriljce će da iscedi neko drugi za svoj račun, sada kad smo došli na listu garažne prodaje. Sadašnje svetsko ustrojstvo civilizaciju vodi u ćorsokak i teško da smo u stanju ukinuti ga, zabraniti auto industriju i neke od trenutno najomiljenijih proizvodnji mobilne opreme za komunikaciju i lično zadovoljenje. Kad prestanemo da se batrgamo, poslednji čovek na Zemlji će da pošalje SMS poruku.
Quote from: scallop on 09-10-2013, 11:47:18
Ma, sve je to strategija "sečeš uši krpiš dupe". I te naše škriljce će da iscedi neko drugi za svoj račun, sada kad smo došli na listu garažne prodaje. Sadašnje svetsko ustrojstvo civilizaciju vodi u ćorsokak i teško da smo u stanju ukinuti ga, zabraniti auto industriju i neke od trenutno najomiljenijih proizvodnji mobilne opreme za komunikaciju i lično zadovoljenje. Kad prestanemo da se batrgamo, poslednji čovek na Zemlji će da pošalje SMS poruku.
Tužno je koliko se slažem :(
A sa vašim se slaganjem izgleda, slaže i Džimi Karter:
Carter: Middle class today resembles past's poor (http://news.yahoo.com/carter-middle-class-today-resembles-110509535.html)
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Carter says today's middle class looks like the poor from his presidency due to income gap
OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) -- Former President Jimmy Carter said Monday that the income gap in the United States has increased to the point where members of the middle class resemble the Americans who lived in poverty when he occupied the White House.
Carter offered his assessment of the nation's economic challenges Monday at a Habitat for Humanity construction site in Oakland — the first of five cities he and wife Rosalynn plan to visit this week to commemorate their three-decade alliance with the international nonprofit that promotes and builds affordable housing.
The recent economic downturn revealed that families living in even comparatively well-off, but expensive regions like the San Francisco Bay Area are economically insecure, he said.
"Even in one of the wealthiest parts of the world there is a great deal of foreclosures and now a great deal of people who are fortunate to own their own houses owe more on them than the houses are worth in the present market, and that's all changed in the last eight years," Carter said during an exclusive interview with The Associated Press.
Taking a break from framing windows at a new 12-unit town house development in a section of East Oakland where Habitat already has built or repaired 115 homes, the 89-year-old former Democratic president said the federal government is investing less in affordable housing at a time of greater need.
"The disparity between rich people and poor people in America has increased dramatically since when we started," he said. "The middle class has become more like poor people than they were 30 years ago. So I don't think it's getting any better."
Years of tax breaks for the wealthy, a minimum wage untethered from the inflation rate and electoral districts drawn to maximize political polarization have reduced the quality of life for all but a small fraction of Americans and imperiled the nation's standing as "a real superpower," he said.
"Equity of taxation and treating the middle class with a great deal of attention, providing funding for people in true need, like for affordable housing, those are the sort of things that would pay rich dividends for Americans no matter what kind of income they have," said Carter, looking relaxed in a baseball cap, blue jeans and white sneakers.
"The richest people in America would be better off if everybody lived in a decent home and had a chance to pay for it, and if everyone had enough income even if they had a daily job to be good buyers for the products that are produced."
Habitat for Humanity was founded in Georgia, the home state of the Carters. They first joined a Habitat for Humanity work site in 1984 in New York and have spent a week every year working on construction sites in the U.S. and abroad.
On Tuesday, the former president and first lady are scheduled to help renovate homes in a section of Silicon Valley that has remained immune to the wealth generated by the high-tech industry. After that, they intend to travel to Denver, New York and Union Beach, N.J., where they will help rebuild homes wiped out by Hurricane Sandy.
Quote from: BladeRunner on 09-10-2013, 11:05:54
A može i ovako: koliko ovo ekološku štetu izaziva najbolje pokazuje dokumentarac "Gasland", a i na internetu ima dosta o tome čak i na srpskom, zbog Aleksinca. Barel nafte dobijene iz škriljaca emituje od dva do osam puta više gasova koji izazivaju efekat staklene bašte od nafte dobijene na drugi način. Dalje, za razliku od nafte koja se pumpa iz zemlje i koja stvara energetski suficit u procesu proizvodnje, ukupna količina energije koja se stvori ovim načinom je manja od one koja je potrebna da bi se napravio barel. Tako je ovo način da se jedna energija pretvori u drugu, uz uništavanje obradivog zemljišta. Dosta dobar tekst: http://owni.eu/2011/02/14/shale-gas-energy-revolution-or-ecological-threat/ (http://owni.eu/2011/02/14/shale-gas-energy-revolution-or-ecological-threat/)
sudeći po ovom čiki to su besmislice:http://www.mondo.rs/a622505/Info/Drustvo/MONDO-Globalno-zagrevanje-svetska-prevara.html
Kad pogledaš "vojnike" na obe strane, i njihove metode, doći ćeš do zaključka da jedna od strana ima slabije argumente, ali zato više buči. Kako to da telefonske pretnje dobijaju samo zastupnici globalnog zagrevanja?
Ja te ništa ne razumem. :mrgreen: Ti zastupnici su glasniji, a pretnje dobijaju i drugi, je l da? Što znači da se ti u stvari slažeš s ovim čikom s velikim ušima.
Ček sad, tvoj stil je da ne izgleda da se trudiš. Ostani karakter...
Quote from: mac on 09-10-2013, 19:33:02
Kad pogledaš "vojnike" na obe strane, i njihove metode, doći ćeš do zaključka da jedna od strana ima slabije argumente, ali zato više buči. Kako to da telefonske pretnje dobijaju samo zastupnici globalnog zagrevanja?
Kako to da od koncepta održivog ekološkog rasta više koristi ima Zapad nego nerazvijene zemlje? Zapad jedva čeka da svjetske sile proglase ekologiju kao primarni svjetski cilj. Ne čekaju to nerazvijene zemlje nego upravo američki i evropski biznismeni, jer imaju direktne ekonomske koristi od toga.
Kako to zastupnici globalnog zagrijavanja rade u New York Timesu, a navodno su ugroženi od strane onih koji nemaju takvu medijsku moć?
Kako to da priče o ekološkoj ugroženosti postoje 200 godina a mi i dalje dišemo kiseonik? Još romantičari su pisali pjesme o tome.
Kako to da takva ''globalna'' prijetnja još nije uništila sve na planeti? Jel to neko tvrdi da je industrija po svojoj obuhvatnosti veća od planete Zemlje?
Sve u svemu, zagađenje nije nikakva globalna prijetnja, Rimski klub je prije 40 godina tvrdio da kada čovječanstvo dostigne cifru od 7 milijardi da će sve otići dođavola. A nije otišlo i neće otići, bar još koju milijardu godina.
Složio bih se sa Batom, ali tu ima jedan drugi problem. Šta ćemo kad ostanemo bez nafte? Kako će leteti avioni i kako će se pokretati sve ostalo?
Na struju ;)
na nuklearni pogon.
Na ugalj, tj. paru ;)
vorp pogon?
Quote from: Barbarin on 09-10-2013, 21:53:43
Na ugalj, tj. paru ;)
Čisto da se zna, ovo je zapravo postojalo.
Madam Adler, oni se samo šegače.
Jasno mi je, nego...kompulsivni poremećaj + el grande nervoza, :)
Parni motor je u jednom trenutku bio ozbiljna konkurencija motoru sa unutrašnjim sagorevanjem. Tačnije, ovaj drugi je bio lošiji. A onda se desio niz neverovatnih događaja... I sad vadimo naftu iz škriljca. Sve u svemu tužna priča.
što tužna, baš je dobra dizel čorba 8-)
ako ćemo pošteno, to je pogon na dinosauruse, samo ne vidim čemu žalopojke...
Ovo je model prvog automobila u Novom Sadu, na parni pogon ;)
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Mene vise plasi ako ostanemo bez nafte sto cemo ostati i bez plastike...stiropora, kesa za smece, kineskih papuca, tastatura i miseva za kompjutere, cevcica za sokove i cetkica za zube, a gorivo... 'ebes gorivo, ce vozimo bicikle i jasemo konje, ali bez ovih stvari...
... a sta cemo bez toalet papira? :?
A MUST SEE!
Obama torn to shreds on Fox News over Syria - Seriously a Must Watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sorpTOyJXf8#)
Quote from: Ugly MF on 10-10-2013, 01:32:56
... a sta cemo bez toalet papira? :?
Alahu ekber 8-)
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Neko je zaboravio čitavu farmaceutsku industriju!
Ljudi , moz' se vi za'ebavate kolko 'ocete, ali ako zene ostanu bez mobilni telefoni, ulosci i vibratori... PRSLI smo svi, skroz naskroz!
Jao, pa neće se plastika raspasti, ima je toliko da je ne treba više ni praviti, samo reciklaža.
iphone je i ovako od metala, pelene umesto uložaka, a za ovo treće ideju se beskonačne...
Jos ako od 7 milijardi napravis 2!
Pa to ima bude pravi raj na zemlji, moz da pogasimo sve sto nas truje i samo prirodno da uzivamo?
Kako sam pametan!
Jel ima jos negde neko u svetu da se setio da se otarasi 5 milijardi ljudi nabrzinu , pa da uzivamo, ili da im prodam ja ideju, a?
Taliban mock US over government shutdown (http://news.yahoo.com/taliban-mock-us-over-government-shutdown-064323672.html)
QuoteKabul (AFP) - Taliban militants fighting US troops in Afghanistan taunted Washington over the government shutdown on Wednesday, accusing US politicians of "sucking the blood of their own people".
The Islamist militants issued a statement describing how US institutions were "paralysed", the Statue of Liberty was closed and a fall in tourist numbers had hit shops, restaurants and hotels in the capital.
"The American people should realise that their politicians play with their destinies as well as the destinies of other oppressed nations for the sake of their personal vested interests," the Taliban said.
The insurgents accused "selfish and empty-minded American leaders" of taking US citizens' money "earned with great difficulty" and then "lavishly spending the same money in shedding the blood of the innocent and oppressed people".
"Instead of sucking the blood of their own people... this money should be utilised for the sake of peace," they added.
The US embassy in Kabul has said that it expects "to function normally in the short term" due to the shutdown, though its Twitter feed would not be regularly updated.
Embassy press staff were not immediately available to comment on the rebels' statement.
The Taliban, who were ousted from power in a US-backed offensive in 2001, often use their website to issue colourful verbal attacks on Washington and the Kabul government.
About 57,000 US troops are deployed in Afghanistan, with most of them set to pull out by the end of the next year.
The US shutdown has seen hundreds of thousands of workers sent home without pay after Congress failed to pass a budget for the 2014 fiscal year that began October 1.
Sjajan komentar ispod teksta:
QuoteYou know it is bad when you get mocked by the Taliban and it is legitimate..
http://www.021.rs/Info/Svet/Ekonomski-cunami-pogodice-svet-ako-bankrotiraju-SAD.html (http://www.021.rs/Info/Svet/Ekonomski-cunami-pogodice-svet-ako-bankrotiraju-SAD.html)
@ Ugly Pa nekima se ne isplati im se da pobiju toliko ljudi. Mada je lepa ideja, koju bih podržao pod uslovom da ostanem živ ;)
Ma zezam se, to ovi masoneri i ostali masteri of papitsa kao fol vec rade,
nego, oce li Amer da popije inflaciju ko mi u vreme Slobe, Jezde, Dafine itd?
Ako se to popije, idu redovi za jogurt i pendrek ko pisne!?!?!?
Ne može takva inflacija, to nije prihvatljiva opcija za njih. Izgubili bi sve što su se trudili da steknu.
Nije bila ni za nas...svo to silno bratstvo i jedinstvo , putavi slobode, proleteri svih zemalja, dan mladosti....
Naša inflacija je namerno izazvana štampanjem novca. Onog trenutka kad je Sloba rekao dosta inflacija je "magično" stala.
Mozda isto tako u Ameriki bude krizno, pa neko ispadne veliki spasioc?
Ne može da se povuče paralela. Cela svetska ekonomija je zasnovana na dolaru. Prvo, Ameri nemaju potrebe da izazovu takvu hiper-inflaciju kakvu smo mi imali, a drugo, da to urade nastao bi treći svetski rat. Ceo svet trenutno igra onako kako Ameri sviraju, tako da se ja ne brinem previše a njih.
Pa dobro, ima istine, evo jedan sto nije hteo da igra po njihovoj muzici, nego hteo da pravi svoju Africku....
.. culi smo svi za Gadafija, jel tako?
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22029382.400-the-maths-that-saw-the-us-shutdown-coming.html?full=true (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22029382.400-the-maths-that-saw-the-us-shutdown-coming.html?full=true)
QuoteThe maths that saw the US shutdown coming
Can a new mathematical model predict the endgame of empires? Peter Turchin says his work shows why the US is in crisis, and what will happen next
Editorial: "Can science stop government shutdowns?"
ON THE surface it seems inexplicable. The government of the most powerful country on earth has shut down and is dangerously close to defaulting on its debt. Its people and economy are feeling the consequences, and a new global financial crisis might not be far behind. And all this because a minority faction of one house of Congress will not approve a budget unless a healthcare measure that has already been passed into law is suspended.
But for Peter Turchin, a mathematical ecologist at the University of Connecticut in Storrs, the stand-off was predictable. He is one of a small group of people applying the mathematics of complex systems to political instability. They have been anticipating events just like this – and they say that if we don't find some way to respond to the warning signs and change course, things are bound to get a lot worse before they get better.
Turchin has found what he believes to be historical cycles, two to three centuries long, of political instability and breakdown affecting states and empires from Rome to Russia. In a book he is finishing, he argues that similar cycles are evident in US history, and that they are playing out to this day. He admits that his theory, built on a model that combines social and economic data, must be tested against real events – but unlike most historical theories, it can be. Meanwhile, he says, it "predicts the long-term conditions that led to this shutdown".
Workers or employees make up the bulk of any society, with a minority of employers constituting the top few per cent of earners. By mathematically modelling historical data, Turchin finds that as population grows, workers start to outnumber available jobs, driving down wages. The wealthy elite then end up with an even greater share of the economic pie, and inequality soars. This is borne out in the US, for example, where average wages have stagnated since the 1970s although gross domestic product has steadily climbed.
This process also creates new avenues – such as increased access to higher education – that allow a few workers to join the elite, swelling their ranks. Eventually this results in what Turchin calls "elite overproduction" – there being more people in the elite than there are top jobs. "Then competition starts to get ugly," he says.
The richest continue to become richer: as in many complex systems, whether in nature or in society, existing advantage feeds back positively to create yet more. The rest of the elite fight it out, with rival patronage networks battling ever more fiercely. "There are always ideological differences, but elite overproduction explains why competition becomes so bitter, with no one willing to compromise," Turchin says. This means the squabbling in Congress that precipitated the current shutdown is a symptom of societal forces at work, rather than the primary problem.
In Turchin's theory, such political acrimony is paralleled by rising discontent among workers left with less and less, and increasing state bankruptcy as spending by the elite who control the government coffers spirals. Ultimately, the situation gets so bad that order cannot be maintained and the state collapses. A new cycle begins.
It may sound far-fetched. But in the last century, a slew of variables ranging from labour supply to public health indices, income inequality and the numbers and behaviour of the elite rose and fell in sync and as predicted by the theory. And with each glut of workers and peak in inequality came a surge in political violence.
Turchin finds that a simple mathematical model, combining economic output per person, the balance of labour demand and supply, and changes in attitudes towards redistributing wealth – the minimum wage level is one proxy for this – generates a curve that exactly matches the change in real wages since 1930, including complex rises and falls since 1980. Such close agreement between model and reality is exceptional in social sciences, says Turchin, and shows that all three factors control the rise of inequality, as predicted.
A set of 1590 instances of political violence in the US reveals peaceful periods around 1820 and 1950, with instability rising in between. Social data reflecting labour supply, inequality and elite overproduction match that basic fluctuation. Turchin thinks these changes explain the American civil war in the 1860s. The statistics also show that we are now in another phase of rising instability that began in the 1970s, just when, as his theory predicts, labour supply started outstripping demand.
In Turchin's theory, this phase in the cycle should also be marked by political polarisation and rising government debt – both current crises in Washington. Real wages, the minimum wage, trade union suppression, the share of wealth owned by the richest one per cent, even filibusters and fights over judicial appointments – all have changed at the same time in ways reflecting reduced social consensus. Meanwhile, the elite class has grown sharply. Between the 1970s and 2010, college fees rose, yet the numbers of doctors and lawyers qualifying per head of population nearly trebled. Workers have steadily lost out. The "real shocker", says Turchin, is that the average height of Americans peaked in 1975. It has actually declined in black women since then – a fact that could be down to falling nutrition standards linked to lower incomes. None of the trends shows any sign of reversing.
Yaneer Bar-Yam of the New England Complex Systems Institute in Cambridge, Massachusetts, agrees with Turchin's finding of repeated cycles in history. However, he believes our current experience also reflects something new: technology has brought about the emergence of a complex, networked society, one that, he argues, existing democratic institutions are too simplistic to govern.
"The fall of the Soviet Union wasn't the end of the story," says Bar-Yam. He says that the US government could also fall apart unless its citizens choose to adapt by evolving decentralised, networked institutions more suited to managing complexity.
Dirk Helbing of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich agrees. He says what's needed are fluid institutions that allow citizens to collaborate in a direct democracy to solve problems using next-generation social media. It works in a small country like Switzerland, and the time is ripe for it to be exported to larger states. "The technology that allows this is growing," he says.
Dobar Pera Turčin.
Inače, sigurno ste čuli da je vebsajt koji je dizajniran da Amerikanci mogu da se prijave za državno zdravstveno osiguranje koštao više od pola milijarde dolara (http://www.digitaltrends.com/opinion/obamacare-healthcare-gov-website-cost/). Što je već samo za sebe užasno. Ali još je užasnije što i dalje, kad recimo odete na ovaj link:
https://www.healthcare.gov/marketplace/global/en_US/registration.js (https://www.healthcare.gov/marketplace/global/en_US/registration.js)
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Bože, kakva propast :shock:
pa to samo u srbiji može - jao jadni li smo - oh, evropo - poslednji ovde nek ugasi svetlo...
ups!
ni amerikanci nisu bezgrešni!
Quote from: Ghoul on 15-10-2013, 11:52:28
pa to samo u srbiji može - jao jadni li smo - oh, evropo - poslednji ovde nek ugasi svetlo...
ups!
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Inace, 2 zanimljiva teksta, samo je drugi malo neozbiljniji:
QuoteIz američkog sna o kome još maštaju neki mladi Srbi, probudili su se mnogi njihovi vršnjaci u SAD. San je, istina, zajednički - želja za zaposlenjem i boljim životom - ali dok se naši mladi sunarodnici nadaju da ga ostvare u SAD, sami Amerikanci veruju da ih sreća čeka drugde, i odlaze.
Amerikanci sreću traže u Kini (http://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/svet.php?yyyy=2013&mm=10&dd=14&nav_id=765408)
Quote"Hafington post" je (...) sastavio listu koja služi kao dokaz da su Evropljani bolji od Amerikanaca.
Stvari zbog kojih Amerikanci misle da smo bolji od njih (http://www.b92.net/zivot/pop.php?yyyy=2013&mm=10&dd=08&nav_id=762816)
QuoteAmerikanci su stalno u žurbi. Ukoliko ne odgovorite na mejl u roku od 10 minuta, klijenti već razmišljaju o podnošenju izveštaja o nestaloj osobi.
:!:
Pljuvanje biranim rečima po Obamakeru:
The disastrous ObamaCare exchanges are just the tip of the iceberg (http://theweek.com/article/index/251120/the-disastrous-obamacare-exchanges-are-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg)
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Rarely has a government program rollout resulted in the level of disaster as the Affordable Care Act (ACA) exchanges over their first two weeks. The White House refuses to release enrollment statistics that should be easily gleaned from internal systems serving the exchange sites, if those servers actually remained up and running. On both of its two weekends, technicians spent long hours attempting to fix the myriad problems that stymie consumers, only to have the problems persist — even when site traffic should be low, as CNN's Elizabeth Cohen discovered on Monday (http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2013/10/14/n-obamacare-website-errors-exchange-enroll-affordable-care-act.cnnmoney/index.html).
Small wonder, then, that no one really knows how many have managed to actually buy a health-insurance policy through the federal exchange. The Daily Mail sought out answers from the insurance industry, and got estimates of 51,000 after one week (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2452537/Administration-sources-Obamacare-website-received-just-51-000-completed-insurance-applications.html) — a pace that would have just two million people covered properly by the March 2014 deadline to comply with the individual mandate, far below the 30 million uninsured that the ACA was intended to assist.
Market analyst Bob Laszewski, president of Health Policy and Strategy Associates, put the number much lower than that — at just 5,000 (http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2013/10/how-many-people-have-signed-up-for.html). Insurers are seeing the same enrollees repeatedly purchasing, rejecting, and repurchasing plans, thanks to the poor performance of the federal exchange system, which serves 36 states. "One carrier exec told me that yesterday they got seven transactions for one person," Laszewski wrote on Friday, "four enrollments and three cancelations." The repeated re-enrollments have insurers so spooked that they are staring to worry that "some of these very few enrollments really don't exist."
Then there are the prices for the plans, which have given Americans their first taste of sticker shock from ObamaCare. The Department of Health and Human Services tried to get in front of the big jumps in premiums by claiming that the HHS-approved prices were "lower than projected (http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2013/MarketplacePremiums/ib_marketplace_premiums.cfm)," but Forbes' Avik Roy (http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/09/25/double-down-obamacare-will-increase-avg-individual-market-insurance-premiums-by-99-for-men-62-for-women/?partner=yahootix.) pointed out that the projections used by HHS for comparison were for 2016, not 2014. Prices for comparable coverage doubled, according to an analysis of HHS data by Roy and the Manhattan Institute. And for some the prices quadrupled.
But just how comparable is the new coverage? On Monday, the Chicago Tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-1013-obamacare-deductibles-20131013,0,7779257.story) reported on another facet of newly-restructured plans and premiums stemming from the multiple mandates of the ACA, and found that enrollees will pay a lot more in premiums — and then a lot more out of pocket anyway.
The Tribune's Peter Frost found that a typical user in the system — a 33-year-old single father in this case — would see his premiums "more than double" from its current average of $233 a month. But if the single dad wants his premiums to remain in range, he'll need to sign up for an annual deductible of $12,700. The average deductible before ObamaCare for this consumer would have been $3,500.
Nor is that an isolated example, although it's on the far end of the spectrum. In order to keep prices low, 21 of the 22 approved plans on the Illinois state exchange have deductibles of more than $4,000 for individuals, and $8,000 for families. Frost notes that the average employer-based coverage puts the individual deductible at $1,100.
Consider what this means to the consumer. First, the government forces Americans to buy comprehensive insurance when many don't need it. At $466 a month, the single father in the example above will spend about $5600 a year on comprehensive insurance, which would far outstrip the medical expenses for most 33-year-old single men who might expect only a wellness check and perhaps a couple of acute visits to a clinic for urgent care a year. At retail costs, even with labs, that's going to run less than a thousand dollars a year at most.
Now, though, his insurance won't even cover that much. Before Illinois consumers see any benefit at all from their insurance policies, they will have to spend more than $4000 each year out of their own pocket — and without the benefit of health-savings accounts (HSAs) to use untaxed income for that purpose. That means that some consumers will spend much more each year over and above their newly-inflated premiums, making it less and less likely that they will ever see any benefits from their mandated insurance policies other than avoiding the small fine from the IRS for non-compliance.
Thanks to the new mandate on insurers to cover the uninsured with pre-existing conditions at community rates, most people will choose to pay that fine anyway, and buy the insurance only when serious illness or injury occurs that requires hospitalization or extended treatment. That mandated risk on insurers is one reason that premiums and deductibles have skyrocketed.
The result is a parody of an alternate, free-market model of reform. Rather than demand that consumers buy comprehensive insurance, the alternate model would have emphasized catastrophic coverage with high deductibles, which before ObamaCare were low-cost options for healthier consumers who wanted to indemnify themselves against unexpected major costs. Removing insurers from routine maintenance care would have restored price signals and competition to the family-practice market, which would have provided incentives for doctors to re-enter it. Consumers could then have used their HSAs, which are discouraged in the ACA system, to cover their own routine maintenance, and insurers could have returned to their proper role: Indemnifying people against major loss, not acting as wellness managers. That role properly belongs to patients and their physicians, not insurers and certainly not the government.
Thanks to the ACA, we have the worst of both worlds. Some consumers now have to pay enormous premiums for coverage they can't access until they pay enormous out-of-pocket expenses first, while insurers have to cover even more risk, and providers have to deal with even more red tape. When voters start paying through the nose in this system, they will soon recognize that the administration's ideas of reform are as workable in real life as their ObamaCare exchange website.
http://utrend.tv/v/9-out-of-10-americans-are-completely-wrong-about-this-mind-blowing-fact/ (http://utrend.tv/v/9-out-of-10-americans-are-completely-wrong-about-this-mind-blowing-fact/)
Report: Obama administration knew millions wouldn't be able to keep insurance (http://news.yahoo.com/obama-administration-knew-millions-wouldn-t-be-able-to-keep-insurance--report-222249311.html)
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Before the Affordable Care Act became law in 2010, President Obama promised Americans they could keep their healthcare plan if they liked it. But already hundreds of thousands of citizens are receiving notification that their plans are being cancelled because they don't comply with the new law, and, according to NBC News (http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/29/21222195-obama-administration-knew-millions-could-not-keep-their-health-insurance?lite), the Obama administration has known for at least three years the cancellations were coming.
While campaigning for health care reform in 2009, Obama went out of his way to make one thing perfectly clear: if you like your current health care plan, you will be able to keep it.
On June 15, 2009, Obama said (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfl55GgHr5E) this: "We will keep this promise to the American people. If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan. Period."
In 2012, he echoed that sentiment, saying, ""If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance."
However, many are finding that not to be the case. More than 300,000 cancellation notices have been sent out in Florida, according to Kaiser Health News (http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2013/October/21/cancellation-notices-health-insurance.aspx), and another 180,000 in California. In New Jersey, the number of cancellations tops 800,000, the Star-Ledger reports. (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/10/obamacare_forces_insurance_companies_to_scrap_some_plans_create_new_ones.html)
According to NBC News, approximately 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million Americans who buy their health insurance individually should expect to receive a cancellation letter over the next year "because their existing policies don't meet the standards mandated by the new health care law."
This could result in millions of Americans being forced to purchase different policies, potentially at higher premiums.
So how did the Obama administration know the cancellations would be coming?
The Affordable Care Act states that people who had health insurance prior to March 23, 2010 – the day President Obama signed the bill into law – will be able to keep those policies even if they don't meet the requirements of the new law. However, the Department of Health and Human Services tightened that provision, so that "if any part of a policy was significantly changed since that date -- the deductible, co-pay, or benefits, for example -- the policy would not be grandfathered," NBC News reports.
Because the market for individual insurance experiences significant turnover, the insinuation is the Obama administration had to have known many policies "grandfathered" in would not qualify for the ACA. NBC News claims that the administration knew in 2010 that "more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them."
"This says that when they made the promise [that individuals could keep their plans], they knew half the people in this market outright couldn't keep what they had and then they wrote the rules so that others couldn't make it either," Robert Laszewski of Health Policy and Strategy Associates told NBC News.
Monday, former Obama adviser David Axelrod said on MSNBC's Morning Joe that "most people are going to keep their own plan." When asked about Axelrod's admission of "most" as opposed to all, White House spokesman Jay Carney acknowledge that some individual's plans will be cancelled, but countered that the plans they switch to will be better and affordable.
"What the president said and what everybody said all along is that there are going to be changes brought about by the Affordable Care Act to create minimum standards of coverage," Carney said. "... So it's true that there are existing health-care plans on the individual market that don't meet those minimum standards and therefore do not qualify for the Affordable Care Act."
Actually, what the President said back in 2009 was "[the Affordable Care Act] is for people who aren't happy with their current plan. If you like what you're getting, keep it. Nobody is forcing you to shift."
Only now, some who like their plans are being forced, including Laszewski. According to NBC News, he has a so-called "Cadillac plan" – "the best health insurance policy you can buy," he said – but recently received notice in the mail that it was being cancelled.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 15-10-2013, 10:26:14
Inače, sigurno ste čuli da je vebsajt koji je dizajniran da Amerikanci mogu da se prijave za državno zdravstveno osiguranje koštao više od pola milijarde dolara (http://www.digitaltrends.com/opinion/obamacare-healthcare-gov-website-cost/). Što je već samo za sebe užasno. Ali još je užasnije što i dalje, kad recimo odete na ovaj link:
https://www.healthcare.gov/marketplace/global/en_US/registration.js (https://www.healthcare.gov/marketplace/global/en_US/registration.js)
dobijate ovo:
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2Fxysr8.jpg&hash=1ad74c4fbaefa6e254af1a30ae61a39bccde3d33)
Bože, kakva propast :shock:
mala sugestija: to je java skript koji obrađuje sajt (registraciju) a ne link za registraciju. sajt je: https://www.healthcare.gov/ (https://www.healthcare.gov/)
Aha, hoćeš da kažeš da normalan korisnik nikada ne bi video ovu stranicu, to jest da je link koga sam ja negde pokupio trebalo samo da demonstrira da je skript loše/ nezgrapno napisan? OK, onda sam ispao najgori tabloidni novinar sagite :oops:
Otvori link u Firefoxu i onda desni klik i "View Page Source" i videćeš sasvim drugačiju i normalniju sliku za JavaScript.
html script je statika (daje sliku),js dinamika (pomeranje slike duž str.).... prvi skript je zbijen jer je verov. dobro strukturiran. prelazom miša na hiperlink preko vidiš da te baca na drugi sajt itd.. ako se hiperlinkuje js onda je to verovatno greska, ali da, svaki korisnik moze da vidi html i js..
Retardacija u Americi ne jenjava. Par koji je usvojio dečaka pokušao da ga vrati posle devet godina jer je, eh, nemiran i jogunast, što je nekarakteristično za, jelte, devetogodišnjake. Sudija veli da pokušava da nađe najstrašniju moguću kaznu za njih kako bi druge parove ubedljivo odgovorio od ovakvih svinjarija:
Will Couple Be Jailed for Returning Adopted Son After Nine Years? (http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/will-couple-be-jailed-for-returning-adopted-son-after-nine-years--194054370.html)
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An Ohio couple who have returned their adopted (http://yhoo.it/HXvC4Z) son to the county after nine years now face charges of reckless abandonment by a prosecutor with little patience for the situation.
More on Yahoo Shine: Teen Orphan Tugs at Churchgoers' Heartstrings to Find a Family (http://yhoo.it/1hLNwaI)
"I want to provide as much deterrent as I can for parents who think, 'Oh, I'm honked off at my child; I can just abandon him,'" Butler County Prosecutor Michael Gmoser tells Yahoo Shine. "After reviewing [the parents'] financial and psychological abilities, I couldn't wrap my brain around any defenses people in these circumstances could have about wanting to give back a child."
The parents, Cleveland and Lisa Cox, adopted the 9-year-old as an infant through Butler County Children Services; they brought him back there in October, citing issues of "aggressive behaviors" for which he had refused help, according to the Associated Press (http://www.komonews.com/news/national/Ohio-couple-gives-back-adopted-son-after-9-years-232010471.html).
More on Yahoo: Fetal Alcohol Disorders Common in Adopted, Foster Kids (http://yhoo.it/1e8ok9o)
Now the child remains in protective custody as a ward of the state, Gmoser explains, awaiting the outcome of a grand jury trial. That's when a judge will have the final say over whether his parents will be able to abandon him for good, and whether they could face up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine if convicted of the misdemeanor. But, the prosecutor adds, his office has not yet been able to locate the boy's family, which includes an undisclosed number of siblings. Consequently, he has not been able to serve the Coxes their indictment.
Children's Services did not return a call from Yahoo Shine, and the Coxes could not be reached for comment. The boy's court-appointed attorney, Adolf Olivas, tells the Associated Press that the boy remains hurt and confused. "If your 9-year-old needs help, you get him help," he says. "It is not a question of a 9-year-old wanting it or not."
Earlier this year, a Tennessee woman was ordered (http://news.yahoo.com/judge-upholds-child-support-russian-adoption-205244777.html) to pay child support after sending her adopted 7-year-old back to Russia alone on an airplane. Other recent reports have looked into the underground practice of "rehoming (http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/online-rehoming-international-adoptions-children/)," in which foreign adoptees, no longer wanted by their new families and often abused by them, are passed on via online forums to others who are willing to raise them.
"The common denominator is people who were struggling and who took drastic action," notes Adam Pertman, author of "Adoption Nation (http://www.amazon.com/Adoption-Nation-Revolution-Transforming-Families/dp/1558327169)" and president of the Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute (http://www.adoptioninstitute.org/index.php). "I'm not defending them in the least, but trying to give some insight. For all we know these are lousy parents who don't know what they're doing. There's no way to know." Fortunately, he tells Yahoo Shine, "we do not hear about these stories often — that's why they're stories. But it doesn't mean we should just dismiss them as an aberration and that we can't learn something from them."
The most important lesson, Pertman explains, involves a shifting of perspective from within the adoption community and placing increased focus on postadoption support services. "We have to do a better job of providing the education and training to allow a family to thrive," he says. "When we see something like this, I wonder whether this family had the training, the support system and the services it needed to stay intact."
He adds, "Bottom line, we have to rethink whether our mission is just to form families or if it's to help them succeed. We need to move past the time when we thought of adoption just as child placement. It may begin there. But it doesn't end with it."
That becomes glaringly obvious in cases like that of the Coxes, considering the effect that the abandonment is likely to have on the boy. "Adoption is certainly about gain, but it's also about loss, at its core," says Jeanne Howard, policy and research director at the Donaldson Institute and director of the Center for Adoption Studies (http://adoptionresearch.illinoisstate.edu/) at the Illinois State University School of Social Work. "So for this child to then have a second loss is the potential for him to have a pretty profound wound."
Pertman advises that any parents, adoptive or not, get help if they find themselves at the end of their rope. "It sounds so trite, but very often parents don't go for help," he says. "Sometimes the services are not there, and sometimes they don't know where to turn. But a lot of parents feel that seeking help is an admission of defeat, like, I can't raise my own kids. And it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy."
Edit: vredi malo prošvrljati i po komentarima, suze čoveku krenu kad vidi koliko ima dobrog sveta.
Heh.. Čoveka u Ohaju uhapsili jer u kolima ima tajni pregradak u kome - nema ničega. Ohajo od prošle godine ima zakon po kome ne smete da modifikujete kola da imaju tajne pregratke jer se to tretira kao namera da prodajete narkotike. Presumpcija nevinosti ovde dosta posrće, deluje mi.
Driver Arrested in Ohio for Secret Car Compartment Full of Nothing (http://reason.com/blog/2013/11/21/driver-arrested-in-ohio-for-secret-car-c)
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Norman Gurley, 30, is facing drug-related charges in Lorain County, Ohio, despite the fact that state troopers did not actually find any drugs in his possession.
Ohio passed a law (http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/bills.cfm?ID=129_SB_305) in 2012 making it a felony to alter a vehicle to add a secret compartment with the "intent" of using it to conceal drugs for trafficking.
Gurley is the first actual person arrested under the law. WKYC in Northeast Ohio covered the arrest, with no notable journalistic skepticism whatsoever (http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/2013/11/20/trap-car-law/3655713/):
They pulled over the driver for speeding, but then troopers noticed several wires running to the back of the car.
Those wires then led them directly to a hidden compartment.
Around 5 p.m. on Tuesday state troopers made the arrest under the law, which is meant to combat criminals who modify the inside of their car, allowing them to store drugs or weapons inside secret compartments, which can often only be accessed electronically.
They just noticed some wires, did they? Just while in the process of handing Gurley a speeding ticket, they noticed the wires?
They did not, however, find any drugs, which means they're arresting Gurley for the crime of an empty space:
Troopers arrested 30-year-old Norman Gurley, who didn't even have any drugs on him, but it didn't matter, because in Ohio, just driving a "trap" car is now a felony.
"Without the hidden compartment law, we would not have had any charges on the suspect," says Combs.
But because of this law, one more "trap car" is now off Northeast Ohio roads.
"We apparently caught them between runs, so to speak, so this takes away one tool they have in their illegal trade. The law does help us and is on our side," says Combs.
Combs' claim is not challenged by the news station at all.
The law says it's only a crime if the hidden compartment is added with the "intent" to conceal drugs, but it also outlaws anybody who has been convicted of felony aggravated drug trafficking laws from operating any vehicle with hidden compartments. The ACLU of Ohio warned (http://www.acluohio.org/legislation/2011-2012-sb-305?c=10) against the new legislation:
The ACLU of Ohio believes SB 305 is an unnecessary and unproductive expansion of law. Drug trafficking is already prohibited under Ohio law, so there is no use for shifting the focus to the container. Further by focusing on the container itself, this bill criminalizes a person with prior felony drug trafficking convictions simply for driving a car with a hidden compartment, regardless of whether or not drugs or even drug residue are present.
Given this is the first arrest, you have to wonder how the courts might view a law making it a felony to alter a person's own property for reasons that have nothing to do with actual public safety. Maybe we'll see.
As for the car itself, the Institute for Justice's 2010 "Policing for Profit" report (http://www.ij.org/asset-forfeiture-report-ohio) calculated that law enforcement officials in the state have collected more than $80 million in shared proceeds from asset forfeiture funds. Oh, and the hidden compartment law exempts vehicles being operated by law enforcement officers, so if state troopers can come up with an excuse to use the ride they just grabbed, they may be able to keep it for themselves.
(Hat tip to Reason commenter Warty)
Da ovo samo notiramo, američko tužilaštvo zaključuje da nema rašta da juri Asanža, on je samo publikovao dokumenta koja mu je dostavio Mening, koji je osuđen kao zaposleni u vladi koji je otkrio službene tajne, a Asanž je postupio kao svaki novinar i nije prekršio zakon:
Julian Assange unlikely to face U.S. charges over publishing classified documents (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/julian-assange-unlikely-to-face-us-charges-over-publishing-classified-documents/2013/11/25/dd27decc-55f1-11e3-8304-caf30787c0a9_story.html)
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The Justice Department has all but concluded it will not bring charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for publishing classified documents because government lawyers said they could not do so without also prosecuting U.S. news organizations and journalists, according to U.S. officials.
The officials stressed that a formal decision has not been made, and a grand jury investigating WikiLeaks remains impaneled, but they said there is little possibility of bringing a case against Assange, unless he is implicated in criminal activity other than releasing online top-secret military and diplomatic documents.
The Obama administration has charged government employees and contractors who leak classified information — such as former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-charges-snowden-with-espionage/2013/06/21/507497d8-dab1-11e2-a016-92547bf094cc_story.html) and former Army intelligence analyst Bradley Manning — with violations of the Espionage Act. But officials said that although Assange published classified documents, he did not leak them, something they said significantly affects their legal analysis.
"The problem the department has always had in investigating Julian Assange is there is no way to prosecute him for publishing information without the same theory being applied to journalists," said former Justice Department spokesman Matthew Miller. "And if you are not going to prosecute journalists for publishing classified information, which the department is not, then there is no way to prosecute Assange."
Justice officials said they looked hard at Assange (http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/video/onbackground/being-julian-assange/2013/11/19/24f1da7a-5145-11e3-a7f0-b790929232e1_video.html) but realized that they have what they described as a "New York Times problem." If the Justice Department indicted Assange, it would also have to prosecute the New York Times and other news organizations and writers who published classified material, including The Washington Post and Britain's Guardian newspaper, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.
WikiLeaks spokesman Kristinn Hrafnsson said last week that the anti-secrecy organization is skeptical "short of an open, official, formal confirmation that the U.S. government is not going to prosecute WikiLeaks." Justice Department officials said it is unclear whether there will be a formal announcement should the grand jury investigation be formally closed.
"We have repeatedly asked the Department of Justice to tell us what the status of the investigation was with respect to Mr. Assange," said Barry J. Pollack, a Washington attorney for Assange. "They have declined to do so. They have not informed us in any way that they are closing the investigation or have made a decision not to bring charges against Mr. Assange. While we would certainly welcome that development, it should not have taken the Department of Justice several years to come to the conclusion that it should not be investigating journalists for publishing truthful information."
There have been persistent rumors that the grand jury investigation of Assange and WikiLeaks had secretly led to charges. Officials told The Post last week that there was no sealed indictment (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/assange-not-under-sealed-indictment-us-officials-say/2013/11/18/8a3cb2da-506c-11e3-a7f0-b790929232e1_story.html), and other officials have since come forward to say, as one senior U.S. official put it, that the department has "all but concluded" that it will not bring a case against Assange.
A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment, as did former U.S. attorney Neil H. MacBride (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-vas-eastern-district-us-attorneys-reach-transcends-geographic-bounds/2012/12/15/a3f8f992-4625-11e2-9648-a2c323a991d6_story.html), whose office in the Eastern District of Virginia led the probe into the WikiLeaks organization.
In an interview with The Post earlier this month (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-reviewing-criminal-cases-that-used-evidence-gathered-under-fisa-act/2013/11/15/0aea6420-4e0d-11e3-9890-a1e0997fb0c0_story.html), Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said that Justice Department officials are still trying to repatriate Snowden, who has obtained temporary asylum in Russia, to stand trial. But Holder also said that the Justice Department is not planning to prosecute former Guardian reporter Glenn Greenwald, one of the journalists who received documents from Snowden. Greenwald has written a series of articles based on the leaked material. An American citizen, Greenwald has said he fears prosecution if he returns to the United States from his home in Brazil.
Justice officials said that the same distinction between leaker and journalist or publisher is being made between Manning and Assange. One former law enforcement official said the U.S. government could bring charges against Assange if it discovered a crime, such as evidence that he directly hacked into a U.S. government computer. But the Justice officials said he would almost certainly not be prosecuted for receiving classified material from Manning.
Assange has been living in a room in the Ecuadoran Embassy in London since Ecuador granted him political asylum. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/julian-assange-granted-political-asylum-by-ecuador-britain-maintains-extradition-pledge/2012/08/16/414c66c8-e7a5-11e1-9739-eef99c5fb285_story.html)Assange is facing sexual-assault allegations in Sweden. Assange and some of his supporters have said the Australian national fears that if he goes to Sweden to face those allegations, he will be extradited to the United States.
But current and former U.S. officials dismissed that defense.
"He is hiding out in the embassy to avoid a sexual-assault charge in Sweden," Miller said. "It has nothing to do with the U.S. government."
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 28-11-2013, 11:13:26
Heh.. Čoveka u Ohaju uhapsili jer u kolima ima tajni pregradak u kome - nema ničega.
ha!
to ko u TETOVIRANJU, kad čoveka uapse što nosi - prazan kofer.
banditska država!
Ja bih malo u tu banditsku državu...
Šta čekaš?
Nezaposlen sam, ne mogu da dobijem vizu. Jedino ako neko od vas ima neku ideju šta i kako.
Petnaestogodišnji učenik iz Noksvila, Tenesi, na času zapalio nastavnicu. I ovo nije žargon, bukvalno ju je zapalio:
Student Sets Teacher Gabriela Peñalba On Fire: Police (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/28/student-sets-teacher-on-fire_n_4356616.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592)
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A Tennessee high school teacher was set on fire by one of her students, cops said.
WATE reports that Gabriela Penalba, 23, turned her back (http://www.wate.com/story/24066033/knoxville-west-high-school-teen-arrested-for-assaulting-teacher-with-lighter) to her class on Monday morning at West High School in Knoxville when a 15-year-old male student set her hair and shirt ablaze using his lighter, police said.
Students quickly put the fire out.
Gawker notes (http://gawker.com/high-school-student-set-teacher-on-fire-during-class-1472865735) that the student allegedly "exploited the commotion" by throwing the lighter out the window and fleeing before being captured by police.
The quick thinking of her students helped Penalba avoid any burns, according to WBIR.
(http://www.wbir.com/story/news/local/west-knoxville-farragut/2013/11/25/kpd-knox-student-tried-to-set-teacher-on-fire/3704525/)
The student faces aggravated assault and evading arrest charges.
His name has not been released because he's a minor and has not been charged as an adult.
Tako to ide jer ih sad zovu studentima. Moj Bela doskora beše student predškolske ustanove.
Malo izborne statistike:
http://geographer-at-large.blogspot.com/2012/11/how-obama-won-election.html (http://geographer-at-large.blogspot.com/2012/11/how-obama-won-election.html)
Ovako bi izgledali rezultati prošlih predsedničkih izbora da su samo beli muškarci glasali:
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-AMcdoWwc76s%2FUKJdP5s2WNI%2FAAAAAAAABlU%2F4xs1Qhm5_A4%2Fs640%2F1850-white%2Bmen%2Bonly%2Bvote.jpg&hash=5fdc5aed83622b944ff27094c8a77ffecd8ad9a4)
Dostupnost privatnih podataka elementima vlasti je neprijatna stvar, evo recimo:
Disabled woman denied entry to U.S. after agent cites supposedly private medical details (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/11/28/disabled_woman_denied_entry_to_us_after_agent_cites_supposedly_private_medical_details.html)
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A Toronto woman is shocked after she was denied entry into the U.S. because she had been hospitalized for clinical depression.
Ellen Richardson went to Pearson airport on Monday full of joy about flying to New York City and from there going on a 10-day Caribbean cruise for which she'd paid about $6,000. But a U.S. Customs and Border Protection (http://www.cbp.gov/) agent with the Department of Homeland Security killed that dream when he denied her entry (http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2011/01/29/canadian_woman_denied_entry_to_us_because_of_suicide_attempt.html). "I was turned away, I was told, because I had a hospitalization in the summer of 2012 for clinical depression,'' said Richardson, who is a paraplegic and set up her cruise in collaboration with a March of Dimes group of about 12 others. The Weston woman was told by the U.S. agent she would have to get "medical clearance'' and be examined by one of only three doctors in Toronto whose assessments are accepted by Homeland Security (http://www.dhs.gov/). She was given their names and told a call to her psychiatrist "would not suffice.''
At the time, Richardson said, she was so shocked and devastated by what was going on, she wasn't thinking about how U.S. authorities could access her supposedly private medical information (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canadians-with-mental-illnesses-denied-u-s-entry-1.1034903). "I was so aghast. I was saying, 'I don't understand this. What is the problem?' I was so looking forward to getting away . . . I'd even brought a little string of Christmas lights I was going to string up in the cabin. . . . It's not like I can just book again right away,'' she said, referring to the time and planning that goes into taking a trip as a disabled person. Richardson said she'd had no discussion whatsoever with the agent at the airport about her medical history or background. Previous to her hospitalization in 2012, Richardson had attempted suicide in 2001, as a result of delusions. But medications put her on an even keel and stabilized her for years, with no incidents. A personal relationship breakup in 2012 caused her clinical depression and hospitalization (there was no police involvement). But again, her condition stabilized and Richardson, who has a master's degree in counselling, sees a psychiatrist with whom she has a very good relationship. She's been on three cruises since 2001, travelling through the U.S., and has never had a problem at Pearson with U.S. authorities. No U.S. border agent has ever brought up the 2001 suicide attempt, including the agent on Monday who only mentioned her 2012 hospitalization, she said. He cited the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act (http://www.uscis.gov/laws/act), Section 212, which denies entry to people who have had a physical or mental disorder that may pose a "threat to the property, safety or welfare'' of themselves or others. The agent gave her a signed document which stated that "system checks'' had found she "had a medical episode in June 2012'' and that because of the "mental illness episode'' she would need a medical evaluation before being accepted. U.S. Customs and Border Protection media spokeswoman Jenny Burke said that due to privacy laws, "the department is prohibited from discussing specific cases.'' MP Mike Sullivan said what has happened to his constituent is "enormously troubling. . . . How did U.S. agents get her personal medical information?'' He said he will be getting in touch with federal privacy commissioner Jennifer Stoddart "and demanding to know how this happened. We're very concerned if Canadians' personal medical information is being communicated to U.S. authorities.'' Richardson has also spoken to her lawyer, David McGhee, about what she believes to be a "breach of privacy'' as well as an act of discrimination against people with mental health issues. McGhee has sent a letter to Ontario Health Minister Deb Matthews asking how this breach could have occurred. "The incident in 2012 was hospitalization for depression. Police were not involved,'' McGhee said. "I've asked Deb Matthews to tell me if she's aware of any provincial or federal authority to allow U.S. authorities to have access to our medical records. Medical records are supposed to be strictly confidential. '' U.S. authorities "do not have access to medical or other health records for Ontarians travelling to the U.S.,'' said health ministry spokeswoman Joanne Woodward Fraser, adding the ministry could not provide any additional information. Richardson's bad luck continued when she tried to get the cost of her trip refunded. Her insurance is with Ingle International and clients with problems are supposed to contact the help organization called OneWorld Assist. OneWorld Assist's Alex Longuepee wrote to Richardson: "Unfortunately, being denied boarding is not a covered risk under the policy. "Also, we do have a general exclusion which reads as the following: 'Psychological disorders, emotional disorders. Acute psychosis is not excluded unless drug or alcohol induced.' '' In an email to the Star, spokeswoman Amber Robinson confirmed that Richardson's insurance policy does not cover people denied entry to the U.S. The policy also doesn't cover expenses "incurred directly or indirectly as a result of psychological disorders, emotional or mental disorders.'' Robinson said the company has "reached out'' to Richardson to start the claim process "which will allow us to review her claim in more detail. Hopefully, we'll be able to assist Ms. Richardson in some way.''
Taj C&B Protection je čudo. Svaki put kad smo išli tamo utronjavao sam se šta me čeka. To je kao grom ili zemljotres ili vulkanska erupcija; obori te, a da ništa ne možeš da učiniš. Otkako su pojačali svetski nadzor, a ZS sumnjiv zbog svih sranja koja ovde pravimo, situacija je još gora. Činjenica je da taj nadzor nije efikasan na globalnom nivou, ali pojedincima može da napravi itekakve zajebancije. Naravno, svi prekršioci svih normi ponašanja kroz to prolaze kao pas kroz rosu, jer su pripremljeni. Najebu nevini. Možda su posumnjali da bi ova žena mogla da skoči sa jarbola kruzera zbog svoje depresije.
Da, samo im je promaklo da je paraplegična pa da bi joj skakanje išlo malo teže. Da ne pominjemo da je dobro pitanje i odakle njima njena zdravstvena istorija, pošto su te vrste, jelte, podataka, strogo privatne & poverljive...
Ali, da, dobro veliš:
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svi prekršioci svih normi ponašanja kroz to prolaze kao pas kroz rosu, jer su pripremljeni. Najebu nevini.
O, bože, Amerikanci.... Ubiće ih taj puritanizam.
http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/breast-cancer-survivor-responds-to-nyt-photo-controversy-202828081.html (http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/breast-cancer-survivor-responds-to-nyt-photo-controversy-202828081.html)
Da li ikog više ovo iznenađuje? Američka administracija malko lagala u pogledu napada bojnim otrovima u Siriji...
Seymour Hersh Alleges Obama Administration Lied on Syria Gas Attack (http://news.yahoo.com/seymour-hersh-alleges-obama-administration-lied-syria-gas-204437397.html)
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Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh has dropped yet another bombshell allegation: President Obama wasn't honest with the American people (http://www.lrb.co.uk/2013/12/08/seymour-m-hersh/whose-sarin) when he blamed Syrian President Bashar al-Assad for a sarin-gas (http://www.thewire.com/global/2013/08/visual-evidence-syrias-poison-gas-attack-overwhelming-and-disturbing/68586/) attack in that killed hundreds of civilians. In early September, Secretary of State John Kerry said the United States had proof that the nerve-gas attack was made on Assad's orders. "We know the Assad regime was responsible," President Obama told the nation in an address days after this revelation, which he said pushed him over the "red line" in considering military intervention.
But in a long story published Sunday for the London Review of Books, Hersh — best known for his exposés on the cover-ups of the My Lai Massacre and of Abu Ghraib – said the administration "cherry-picked intelligence," citing conversations with intelligence and military officials.A former senior intelligence official told me that the Obama administration had altered the available information – in terms of its timing and sequence – to enable the president and his advisers to make intelligence retrieved days after the attack look as if it had been picked up and analysed in real time, as the attack was happening. The distortion, he said, reminded him of the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident, when the Johnson administration reversed the sequence of National Security Agency intercepts to justify one of the early bombings of North Vietnam. The same official said there was immense frustration inside the military and intelligence bureaucracy: 'The guys are throwing their hands in the air and saying, "How can we help this guy" – Obama – "when he and his cronies in the White House make up the intelligence as they go along?"'
Here's what Hersh alleges:
The administration buried intelligence on the fundamentalist group/rebel group al-Nusra. It was seen, Hersh says, as an alarming threat by May, with the U.S. being aware of al-Nusra member able to make and use sarin, and yet the group – associated with the rebel opposition in Syria – was never considered a suspect in the sarin attacks. Hersh refers to a top-secret June cable sent to the deputy director of the Defense Intelligence Agency that said al-Nusra could acquire and use sarin. But the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Office of the Defense Intelligence Agency could not find the document in question, even when given its specific codes.
RELATED: October and November Are the Cruellest Months For Healthcare.Gov (http://www.thewire.com/national/2013/12/understanding-latest-healthcaregov-setback-if-youre-millennial/355895/)Samantha Power, the U.S. ambassador to the UN, told a press conference: 'It's very important to note that only the [Assad] regime possesses sarin, and we have no evidence that the opposition possesses sarin.'
It is not known whether the highly classified reporting on al-Nusra was made available to Power's office, but her comment was a reflection of the attitude that swept through the administration.
The administration was learning about the attack at roughly the same speed civilians were. Hersh says the thorough daily intelligence briefings in the days surrounding the gas attack did not make a single mention of Syria, even as videos and photos of the attack went viral across the Internet. He added that there was revealed a sensor system in Syria that had, in December 2012, shown sarin production at a chemical weapons depot arranged by the Syrian army. Though it was unclear whether this was a simulation or not – all militaries, Hersh says, practice simulations of such things – Obama promptly warned Syria that use of sarin gas would be "unacceptable."'If what the sensors saw last December was so important that the president had to call and say, "Knock it off," why didn't the president issue the same warning three days before the gas attack in August?'
The media succumbed to confirmation bias in response to a UN report on the attack. That report, which is less than certain in its terms, said that the spent weapon "indicatively matches" the specifics of a 330mm calibre artillery rocket. MIT professor Theodore Postol and other munitions experts later reviewed the photos and said that it was improvised, likely made locally, didn't match anything in the Syrian arsenal and would not have been able to travel the nine kilometres from the Syrian army base that the media presumed it was fired from.Postol and a colleague, Richard M. Lloyd, published an analysis two weeks after 21 August in which they correctly assessed that the rockets involved carried a far greater payload of sarin than previously estimated. The
Times reported on that analysis at length, describing Postol and Lloyd as 'leading weapons experts'. The pair's later study about the rockets' flight paths and range, which contradicted previous Times reporting, was emailed to the newspaper last week; it has so far gone unreported.
Though a UN resolution nullified the chances of American military intervention, the impact would be significant if the allegations hold up; recall that President George W. Bush's legacy was deeply tainted by charges that the U.S. had no proof of nuclear weapons in Iraq when they said they did. Hersh hints at the seriousness of the charges himself: "The cherry-picking was similar to the process used to justify the Iraq war."
This article was originally published at http://www.thewire.com/national/2013/12/seymour-hersh-alleges-obama-administration-lied-syria-gas-attack/355899/ (http://www.thewire.com/national/2013/12/seymour-hersh-alleges-obama-administration-lied-syria-gas-attack/355899/)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 09-12-2013, 10:48:00
Da li ikog više ovo iznenađuje? Američka administracija malko lagala u pogledu napada bojnim otrovima u Siriji...
Jok.
Мене изненађује. Тј. не изненађује ме, него једноставно не вјерујем у те гнусне лажи против добитника Нобелове награде за мир.
Изненађује те? Ниси гледао Мастергејт? Председник никад не зна шта раде његови сарадници.
Još malo onog što bi Skalop napisao da smo ga pitali:
Амерички крах 2016. године (http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Svet/Americki-krah-2016-godine.sr.html)
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Како један публициста објашњава ,,нову заверу да се уништи Америка" и шта предлаже да се то спречи
Вашингтон – Следећа америчка криза која ће донети истински крах догодиће се 2016. године!
Предвиђање још једног песимисте и пророка пропасти, каквих је последњих година било много? Зашто баш 2016, и шта ће се у ствари догодити?
,,Крах 2016" у ствари је наслов (са поднасловом: ,,Завера да се уништи Америка и шта можемо да учинимо да то спречимо") нове књиге Тома Хартмана (62) који би могао да се опише као типичан Американац.
Рано је наиме научио да готово све зависи од њега: радио је још као средњошколац, студије је напустио да би постао предузетник, био је и психотерапеут, а данас је радио-водитељ са репутацијом најпопуларнијег међу онима који заговарају либералне идеје (они конзервативни додуше имају бројнију публику и добијају већи публицитет).
Недељно има 2,75 милиона слушалаца, а почесто неке своје идеје (као уосталом и његове колеге) уобличи у књиге (досад је објавио око двадесет), од који су неке доспевале и на референтну листу бестселера ,,Њујорк тајмса".
Најновију је представио у култној вашингтонској књижари ,,Политикс енд проуз" (,,Политика и проза"), једној од ретких која преживљава дигиталну олују коју је изазвао ,,Амазон". Од пре две године је у рукама познатог брачног пара престоничких новинара, а међу њеним муштеријама је и председник Барак Обама са ћеркама, који су тамо недавно купили божићне поклоне.
После разговора са аутором открива се да је апокалиптички наслов само маркетиншка провокација, али и да се књига заиста бави великим и суштинским проблемима ове земље.
,,Ствари у Америци изгледају као да су под контролом, али само док их не осмотрите изблиза и не схватите да су то само кулисе иза којих нема ничега", гласи Хартманова дијагноза коју заснива на мноштву симптома, међу којима је главни да су темељи на којима је израсла америчка нација – подривени.
То је, по њему, резултат процеса који се збива у последњих 30 година – почетке везује за ,,револуцију" Роналда Регана, који чувеном реченицом изговореном на својој првој инаугурацији (,,Влада није решење за наше проблеме, влада је проблем"), почиње демонтажу регулативе економског система створеног после ,,Велике депресије" из тридесетих година прошлог века, замењујући је ,,невидљивом руком" слободног тржишта.
Све дотле, аргументује Хартман, приходи запослених Американаца пратили су пораст продуктивности. С тим у вези наводи прогнозу магазина ,,Тајм" из 1960, по којој ће пораст продуктивности (и плата) 2000. довести до ,,друштва доколице": радиће се 20 до 30 сати дневно, а зарађивати у просеку око 80.000 годишње у данашњим доларима (садашњи просек је иначе око 43.000).
Оно што се међутим догодило то је да је продуктивност наставила да расте, али да су приходи средње класе стагнирали, па се реално чак и смањивали. Да би одржали стандард, грађани почињу да се задужују, тако да је све што данас поседују,,,под хипотеком", узето на кредит.
,,Људи данас не купују аутомобиле као некад, већ их рентирају (лизинг), не купују куће, већ их позајмљују од банака. Већина и студира на кредит, па су укупни студентски дугови данас чак један билион – хиљаду милијарди долара."
На другој страни, један одсто најбогатијих захвата све већи део националног економског колача. То је, каже Хартман, постало могуће ,,зато што смо играли фудбал без судије, без правила и без статива... У нашој економији смо увели правило да ко има највише пара одређује где ће се поставити голови".
По њему, у америчкој историји револуције се догађају сваких 70 до 80 година. Прва је била рат за независност 1775–1783, друга Грађански рат 1861–1865, трећа ,,Велика депресија" тридесетих година 20. века, а најновија је ,,Велика рецесија" из 2008.
,,Први пут смо се изборили да од колоније постанемо самостална нација, други пут смо окончали ропство и започели индустријску револуцију, а трећу велику кризу смо искористили да после ње створимо најјачу средњу класу коју је свет икад видео..."
Четврта, најновија раскрсница је још недовршен процес у којем још није извршена коренита реформа као после ранијих. Нови крах ће, по овом аутору, бити само продужетак кризе из 2008. Он не мора да дође баш 2016, може да се догоди и раније, али ће, каже, председник Обама и његова влада по сваку цену настојати да га одложе док им не истекне мандат, на сличан начин како је то (безуспешно додуше) покушао да кризу до свог исељења из Беле куће спречи његов претходник Џорџ Буш.
,,Главни елементи кризе су још на сцени. Док смо крајем деведесетих имали тржиште финансијских 'деривата' од око 80 милијарди долара, до 2008. оно је нарасло на преко 800 билиона, док је целокупни планетарни бруто производ био само 65 билиона, а Америке 15. Одмах после кризе финансијски балон Волстрита је испумпан на око 400 билиона, али се данас вратио на између 700 и 800 билиона", гласи рачуница Тома Хартмана.
У чему је међутим ,,завера"? ,,Оно што се сада догађа већ је виђено у ранијим кризама: у суштини, веома моћни и веома богати настоје да створе једну олигархијску форму владавине, и у многим случајевима у томе успевају.
То је рат богатих против сиромашних и радних људи, средње класе. У овој генерацији предводници тог рата су браћа Дејвид и Чарлс Кок, Шелдон Аделсон (највећи финансијери Републиканске партије), али и други који су много мање видљиви."
Прошле године само на Волстриту било је десет људи који су имали приходе веће од две милијарде долара. Током двадесетих година прошлог века тајкуни су били Дипонтови, Морганови и Рокфелери, а данас су то нова имена, али у суштини иста група.
Њима, образлаже Хартман, кризе погодују: ,,Највећа богатства у Америци у последњих сто година направљена су током 'Велике депресије'. Кризе увек доносе велике прилике да богати постану богатији."
Данас је, каже, модел стицања огромног богатства другачији него некад. Најбогатије адресе у Америци нису више на Беверли хилсу, него у насељима северно од Вашингтона, где су дворци приватних коопераната Пентагона, који је ,,аутсорсовао" велики део буџета, као што су то, чак у износу од 70 одсто, то учиниле и обавештајни комплекс.
,,Данас су не само медији, него и свака иоле значајна индустрија у овој земљи под контролом две, три, четири или највише пет компанија."
,,Због свега овога само још једна велика економска криза може да створи политичку вољу неопходну за фундаменталне промене у нашем економском и политичком систему, да би ова земља поново постала функционална", закључује Хартман.
На крају 40-минутног излагања поздрављен је аплаузом. Читаоци његових књига те вечери у вашингтонској књижари имали су много питања. Нисам сигуран да су били срећни због његових одговора чија се порука своди на оно што данас важи на свим меридијанима: биће горе пре него што буде боље.Милан Мишић објављено: 15/12/2013
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 15-12-2013, 15:14:43
Još malo onog što bi Skalop napisao da smo ga pitali:
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Eto, vidiš da znaš, samo još da ti postane jasno.
Nek sve ide svojim prirodnim tokom :lol:
''Најбогатије адресе у Америци нису више на Беверли хилсу, него у насељима северно од Вашингтона''
adresa je oduvijek bila u Džordžtaunu, šta mislite zašto je Exorcist tamo smješten...
Ukratko, ništa ovde bez Marksa nema...
Amerika od prvog Januara ukida i normalne sijalice od 40 i 60 vati (one od 75 i 100 su zabranili već od prvog Januara 2013.) Alternative su skuplje ali u perspektivi ostvaruju značajne uštede. S druge strane, ima ljudi koji vele da alternative (LED, pre svega ali i fluorescentne i halogene sijalice) naprosto ne daju dobro svetlo, to jest da njihovo svetlo zamara oči itd. Sreća da mi nećemo ući u EU tako brzo pa ćemo imati priliku da vidimo kakva su iskustva EU i SAD sa tim sijalicama...
60- and 40-Watt Bulbs Banned for 2014: What You Need to Know (http://shine.yahoo.com/at-home/60-40-watt-bulbs-banned-2014-know-211800860.html)
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On Jan. 1, 2014, it will be lights out for standard incandescent 60- and 40-watt light bulbs. In order to comply with efficiency standards outlined in the Energy Independence and Security Act (http://www.energystar.gov/ia/products/lighting/cfls/downloads/EISA_Backgrounder_FINAL_4-11_EPA.pdf), which was signed into law by President George Bush in 2007, it will be illegal to manufacture or import them after Dec. 31. But retailers will still be able to sell off any remaining stock. In 2012, all 100-watt bulbs were phased out, and 75-watt bulbs disappeared the following year.More on Yahoo: Three Ways to Save Money on Your Cell Phone Bill (http://yhoo.it/1bKJ9Dn)
The old incandescent bulbs are highly inefficient — only about 10 percent of their energy output is converted into light; the rest is lost to heat. "Once all of our nation's 4 billion screw-based sockets have an efficient bulb in them, U.S. consumers will save $13 billion and 30 large coal-burning power plants-worth of electricity a year. The savings really add up," Noah Horowitz, senior scientist for the Natural Resources Defense Council (http://www.nrdc.org/media/2013/131030.asp) tells Yahoo Shine. He adds that if you replace an incandescent bulb with a CFL (compact fluorescent light), you'll save about $50 over the course of the bulb's lifetime. LEDs (light-emitting diodes) are pricey up front — they run about $10 per 60-watt equivalent, but over time they offer a savings of $100 to $150 in energy costs. The numbers are compelling, but that doesn't mean that some of us won't mourn the loss of the mellow light emitted by old-fashioned bulbs, especially the 60-watt version, which accounts for about 50 percent of household lighting in the United States.
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Lighting artist and designer Bentley Meeker (http://www.bentleymeeker.com/), who runs a successful lighting design company in New York City, isn't a fan of all of the new, more efficient bulbs. "The soul doesn't connect to LED, it's a visceral reaction," he tells Yahoo Shine. "Until the mid-1850s, the only light that humans were exposed to was daylight and firelight — incandescent bulbs have a color that is similar to firelight." He believes that LEDs and fluorescents can be fatiguing on the eyes and unpleasant to live and work with for long periods of time.
Horowitz argues that the transition to energy efficient bulbs has been smooth and successful and that the technology and choices are continually improving. He says the main reason people aren't happy with some of the new bulbs is that they are choosing the wrong brightness level and/or "flavor" (the color of light the bulb emits).
Here are expert tips to comply with the new law, as well as to balance energy efficiency and cost savings with aesthetics:
- Don't inadvertently buy a bulb that's too bright. New bulbs are measured in lumens, not watts, which can be confusing. A 10-watt LED is as bright as a 60-watt incandescent, so if you purchase a 19-watt LED for a small accent light, it will seem glaring. The NRDC has a useful chart (http://www.nrdc.org/energy/lightbulbs/files/lightbulbguide.pdf) showing the light equivalences of various bulbs.
- Choose different types of bulbs for different purposes. Meeker uses LEDs and CFLs to light hallways, stairwells, and basements, and for spotlighting objects. For living spaces, he prefers halogen incandescent bulbs. He says they are a great substitute for the old bulbs, especially if you use them on a dimmer.
- If you want to use CFLs, choose the right color. Most people prefer the ones labeled "warm." The bulbs that are labeled "daylight" are bluish.
- Bring the bulb you want to replace to the store so you can find an equivalent that is the correct size and shape.
- The new bulbs don't work in recessed can lighting. You will still need to buy reflector bulbs, which are not subject to the same regulations.
- If you have dimmers, chose a halogen incandescent bulb or LED. Most CFLs do not work with dimmer sockets.
- Look for the words ENERGY STAR. "CFL and LED bulb quality can vary significantly," says Horowitz. "Be sure to only buy those that have the ENERGY STAR label," which ensures that the product meets the Environmental Protection Agency's strict standards for energy, efficiency, and performance. These bulbs are certified and tested by a third party and will save consumers an average of $6 in electricity costs per year, per bulb.
While Some people are oblivious to lighting, most of us are sensitive to it, so it's worth being thoughtful about your choice of bulbs. Meeker, who has illuminated such venues as the White House Rose Garden and the Burning Man Festival puts it bluntly: "If the lighting sucks, people will be miserable."
Lessons of Columbine and other school shootings helped in Arapahoe (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/14/us/colorado-school-shooting-response/?hpt=hp_c2)
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It has become a tragically familiar scene in American life: law enforcement officers descending on a packed school where a gunman is on the loose. A procession of students, their hands raised, slowly making their way out of the danger zone.
But the handling of Friday's shooting at Arapahoe High School -- just 10 miles from the scene of the 1999 Columbine High School shooting where two students killed 12 classmates and a teacher before fatally shooting themselves -- drew important lessons from the earlier bloodshed.
At Arapahoe High School, where senior Claire Davis, 17, was critically injured before the shooter turned the gun on himself, law enforcement officers responded within minutes and immediately entered the school to confront the gunman rather than surrounding the building, authorities said.
As the sound of shots reverberated through the corridors, teachers immediately followed procedures put in place after Columbine, locking the doors and moving students to the rear of classrooms.
"That's straight out of Columbine," Kenneth Trump, president of National School Safety and Security Services, a Cleveland-based consulting firm, told CNN Saturday. "The goal is to proceed and neutralize the shooter. Columbine really revolutionized the way law enforcement responds to active shooters."
Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson credited the quick police response time for the fact that student Karl Pierson (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/14/us/colorado-school-gunman-karl-pierson/index.html), the gunman, stopped firing on others and turned his weapon on himself.
In fact, Robinson told reporters Saturday, Pierson killed himself less than 1 minute, 20 seconds after entering the school.
Robinson said a deputy sheriff assigned as a school resource officer and an unarmed security guard immediately closed in on the shooter. "That one minute and 20 seconds, in my mind, is extraordinarily relevant," he said, noting that Pierson was heavily armed, with ammunition, a knife and three explosives.
Authorities knew from research and contact with forensic psychologists that school shooters typically continue firing until confronted by law enforcement, Robinson said.
"We believe that the response from the school resource officer and from the unarmed school security officer was absolutely critical to the fact we did not have additional injury and or death," he said.
Robinson said the so-called active shooter response protocol, which was developed after Columbine, was put into place. In addition, school staff and students implemented a well-rehearsed lockdown practice.
"The combination of quick response by the resource officer and the implementation of a lockdown protocol caused the children and staff to be safe," he said. "Both protocols came together as they were designed to do."
Friday's shooting came on the eve of the one year anniversary of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, where Adam Lanza killed 20 first-graders and six adults at the now-demolished elementary school in the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history.
Newtown marks anniversary of school killings (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/14/us/newtown-anniversary/index.html)
"It's very unfortunate that we have to say that there's a textbook response on the way to respond to these, because that textbook was written based on all of the incidents that we've had and the lessons learned," Trump said.
Trump said both Sandy Hook and the latest shooting in Colorado highlight the importance of "training and engaging" school support staff -- from custodians to school secretaries to maintenance and food service workers -- on how to best respond during these incidents. In Sandy Hook, a school custodian's 911 calls provided authorities some of the first information about what was happening.
"Often these people are not getting training in school emergency planning," Trump said. "In a critical incident, they may be the first person to respond."
At Arapahoe High School, a school janitor spotted Pierson, whose intended target was a faculty member, in his tactical gear, he told CNN affiliate KMGH (http://www.thedenverchannel.com/).
"It just looked weird," Fabian Llerenas said. "He went in, and I heard two pops. That's when I knew. I said, 'They are shooting in the school.'"
Llerenas said he called 911 and then escorted the targeted faculty member out of the school.
Pierson had fired at the man but missed, Llerenas told KUSA (http://www.9news.com/).
"He was so [shaken] up, he felt the wind hit, out of the shotgun just blew his hair, but it didn't hit him. It was that scary for him," Llerenas said.
"In my opinion, that was the most important tactical decision that could have been made," Robinson said. The faculty member "left that school in an effort to try to encourage the shooter to also leave the school."
Trump said other lessons learned from Columbine included the controlled evacuations and pat-down searches of students in a secure area. Self evacuations can create chaos for the police.
Additionally, schools now have predesignated parent-student "reunification centers" to prevent parents from showing up at the scene and interfering with law enforcement, as was the case in Sandy Hook, Trump said.
"The lessons of Columbine are still the best practices," Trump said.
After Sandy Hook. Trump said, some officials advocated a "run, hide or fight" approach developed for workplace shootings in which teachers and students are encouraged to be prepared to throw things at gunmen. Some even suggested that elementary school students use items such as cans of soup to attack gunmen. Trump called it a "high risk, high liability proposition."
"The good news is that we're getting better at preventing and responding to these incidents," he said. "The bad news is that there will be cases that slip through the cracks."
Al Džazira prenosi tekst Pola Rozenberga o sličnostima Obame sa JFKom:
Obama-JFK: No end to similarities (http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/obama-jfk-no-end-similarities-071855022.html)
QuoteThe day after the US marked the 50th anniversary of John F Kennedy's assassination, President Barack Obama achieved what could be his most significant foreign policy accomplishment - an interim nuclear weapons deal with Iran. The coincidence of timing reminds us again of the parallels between the two men, and the parallels, in turn, may help us shed light on the differences - differences not just between two individual leaders, but between two different incarnations of what the US means, not just to itself, but, more importantly, to the rest of the world. That, in turn, may lead to plumbing even deeper mysteries.
At his best, Obama promised to be a JFK-like president, inspiring a new generation both at home and abroad, and indeed, support from key members of the Kennedy family played a significant role in Obama's presidential run. Kennedy was the US' first Catholic president; Obama, its first black president. Both built their own outsider networks of political supporters, catching more established candidates by surprise. Both were young senators with meagre legislative records, yet with compelling best-selling books that struck intentionally trans-partisan chords. Kennedy's commitment to civil rights - hobbled though it may have been - clearly connects the two men. So does his role in signing the first major nuclear treaty - the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty - as Obama has long been concerned with reducing the nuclear weapons threat.
Same page on military
But there are other, more troubling parallels as well. Most notably, for present purposes, they share an illusory promise of peace, with a similar underlying dynamic. It begins with a shared estrangement from a faltering military establishment, which they then compensate for via a fascination with covert special operations, and the gadgetry that goes with it. This makes them both less visibly hawkish figures, yet it belies the simplistic notion that they are dovish, overly reliant on diplomacy, or overly committed to multi-lateralism.
In Kennedy's case, it was the elevation and de facto creation of the Green Berets , the exclusive use of special forces and military advisers in Vietnam, and the use of special forces to train irregular ethnic forces. This was the fore-runner of the strategy that lead the US to help build up the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan, which in turn, eventually resulted in the Taliban takeover and the their partnership with al-Qaeda. It was, in the long view of history, a profoundly reckless and ill-conceived approach. But at the time, it was genuinely sober, thoughtful and measured, compared to the existing alternatives.
In Obama's case it can be seen in his heavy reliance on drone warfare, his about-face on intrusive surveillance, and his intense prosecution of whistle blowers, as well as the evident disappointment of the US' European allies and the Muslim world, both of which had hoped and expected a much more decisive and fundamental break with the long-war policies of the Bush Administration. These strategies have degraded "core al-Qaeda" as promised, but at the cost of substantially enhancing a broader disaffection with the US, and contributing to a broader range of anti-US hostilities. Most tellingly, the US has not regained the moral high ground it had when attacked on 9/11, the high ground it abandoned when it lashed out indiscriminately against individuals, groups and nations that had nothing to do with 9/11.
Hits and misses
The deeper policy context for Kennedy's mistakes only became fully evident in 2000, with the publication of David Kaiser's American Tragedy: Kennedy, Johnson, and the Origins of the Vietnam War. Using newly available archival material, Kaiser argued that Kennedy was responding to Eisenhower-era planning for a conventional land war in Southeast Asia, possibly even a nuclear war. Kennedy's first success lay in avoiding a war in Laos, negotiating for its neutrality instead. Kaiser emphasises how Kennedy repeatedly rejected his advisers' pressure towards an all-out war in Vietnam, but does not reflect on Kennedy's failure to replace those advisers with ones more compatible with his more nuanced views. The hawkish advisory establishment that Kennedy left in place readily convinced Johnson to do what Kennedy had resisted - with the additional motivation of stark political survival, as Johnson saw it.
Johnson's tragically flawed policy further split the Democratic Party - an enduring split that helped gain Obama the nomination as a putative anti-interventionist, a severe misreading of his actual stance, which is far more similar to Kennedy's modestly nuanced liberal hawkishness. Tragically, however, Obama seems to have learned nothing from the failures of Kennedy's approach.
Counterinsurgency failed in Vietnam - a fact that Kennedy could not have known, but that Obama surely should have. Instead, he endorsed a similar strategy in Afghanistan, based on misleading arguments that it had succeeded in Iraq (the so-called "surge"), ignoring the multiple other factors involved, as well as the profound differences between Iraq and Afghanistan. Now, at the same time that Obama seems to have made a major breakthrough with Iran, there is talk of the US keeping troops in Afghanistan for another decade or more.
This one example is part of a broader pattern that historian Mark LeVine highlighted just after the Iran nuclear deal was announced. LeVine concluded that the price of Obama's breakthrough would be numerous reassurances and concessions to existing allies, "policies hew[ing] to the classic rationality of Realpolitik [that] will give little comfort to the citizens across the region who should expect even less US support for real democratic reforms in the near future."
Embrace of Realpolitik
This brings us to the unexamined core problem of US foreign policy from the Cold War era, which has remained to this day - the relationship of the US' progressive democratic ideals to its de facto embrace of Realpolitik. As Efstathios Fakiolas described in " Kennan's Long Telegram and NSC-68: A Comparative Analysis ", two very different conceptions, by George Kennan and Paul Nitze, existed as to how the US should respond to the Soviet Union. He also explained how both conceptions were based on a Realpolitik approach, but with different models of what constitutes the bedrock reality of international relations. As I explained in 2005:
"While superficially similar - both warn against the threat of Soviet militarism - the two documents differ sharply in their conception of the nature of the Cold War struggle. NSC-68 sees it primarily as a military contest between two self-interested superpowers. The 'Long Telegram' sees it in terms of moral communities: we will win in the long run by being true to our values, and creating a global moral order that the Soviets will ultimately want to be a part of."
Although the US and the West did not intentionally fight Kennan's war, it nonetheless won it accidentally, in spite of itself, more through the actions of its spirited - even rebellious - citizens than through the actions of state. But things are not going nearly as well in the "war on terror", where the same logic applies, but only al-Qaedaseems to realise it's engaged in a war of ideas. What's more, they've used that realisation again and again, to bait the US into self-defeating behaviour.
Rethinking war
Kennedy had a smarter way of fighting the same global war as Eisenhower's advisers - "a military contest between two self-interested superpowers". Similarly, Obama has a smarter way of fighting the same global war as Bush's advisers - a full-spectrum military contest between the only global superpower and a shadowy network of "others". Both men abandoned proven losing strategies - but for what alternatives? A smarter way of fighting the wrong war is not enough to win the right one.
Paul Rosenberg is the senior editor of Random Lengths News, a bi-weekly alternative community newspaper.
Razjareni libertarijanac želi da Kaliforniju podeli na šest manjih država gde bi silikonska dolina konačno mogla da bude svoja na svome, slobodna od jarma zakona i poreza. No, tekst je interesantan jer postavlja pitanje da li u ovom trenutku predstavnička demokratija u Americi predstavlja građane dovoljno dobro ili makar dovoljno podjednako:
A Tech Tycoon Wants to Split California Into Six States Because Democracy (http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-tech-tycoons-plan-to-split-california-into-six-states-isnt-totally-worthless)
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Sure, Tim Draper's plan to slice up the Golden State is ridiculous. The wealthy venture capitalist has drafted a ballot initiative to split California into six separate states, he told Tech Crunch, with Silicon Valley emerging as the richest and most powerful of all (http://www.thewire.com/politics/2013/12/one-rich-mans-dream-making-silicon-valley-its-own-megarich-state/356379/). The mockery is already pouring in (http://valleywag.gawker.com/tech-titan-lets-break-up-california-and-make-silicon-1487197651/@sambiddle).
Of course a rich tech guru wants Silicon Valley to get its own government, so it can be freed from the dusty laws and regulations of California 1.0. Of course a deep undercurrent of self-aggrandizing narcissism runs through the proposal—only one other state-to-be gets an actual name, ("Jefferson," which is already the moniker of an ongoing secessionist movement) and the rest are lazily affixed with topographical descriptors: West, South, Central, and North California. Of course the plan is overrun with libertarian-tinged ideology and language—an explicit goal is to "lessen the role of Sacramento over every aspect of our lives." Starting to sound familiar?
Yes, in shaping his doctrine, Draper has conjured the perfect blend of Seasteading's offshore tech nirvana lawlessness, boilerplate Tea Party antiestablishmentarianism, and good ol' secessionist chutzpah.
But here's the thing: Underneath all that Silicon Valley techno-centrism, he's got a point. Though he's probably proposing it for all the wrong reasons, Draper's terrible plan is premised on a totally salient criticism—it's absurd that California only sends two senators to Washington when it is by far the country's most populous state.
Though it's not mentioned outright in the ballot proposal text, he tells Tech Crunch that the number one reason he wants to slice up California is that "It is about time California was properly represented with Senators in Washington."
It's hard to argue with that. Small and sparsely populated states get an absurd advantage when it comes to representation in one of the nation's two legislative chambers. You might have heard it put this way before: a Wyoming voter gets 68 times more representation in the Senate than a Californian. California is home to 38 million people (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/56000.html). Wyoming has some 575,000 residents (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html). Yet both states send two senators to Washington, whose votes each count equally. Which isn't ideal if you're aiming for a democracy.
Draper says his plan would smooth that out, and help California voters get the voice they deserve.
"Now our number of Senators per person will be about average," he says. Which, well, kind of: One of the states would have less than 1 million people, and another would have 12 million. That's still a pretty big gulf, and adds credence to the idea that the 'Six Californias' proposal is based less on a desire for equal Senatorial influence and more on getting Silicon Valley it's own government (the better to de-regulate with). But at least it would get millions of people vastly improved representation on a federal level.
Regardless, this is a pretty silly way to address the issue—it's unlikely to pass at the ballot box, for one thing. Who wants their state hacked and divvied up according to the whims of some mega-rich tech tycoon? Second, the federal government would have to approve the whole mess, which it isn't going to.
But that doesn't change the fact that the Senate could probably use reforming—it's not a democratic institution now, and it never really has been. (When it was first formed, the most populous state was 12 times more peopled than the least, which is somewhat better than 68 times, but still.) Right now, half the nation's population lives in just 9 states. (http://www.tuftsdaily.com/another-reason-to-reform-the-senate-1.2725856#.UrSg2Vvk9Qw) Simply by living in those states, they're less represented in the system—if you really want your vote to count, move to Vermont, Wyoming, or North Dakota.
The founding fathers Alexander Hamilton and James Madison both vehemently protested (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/hendrikhertzberg/2011/01/alexander-hamilton-speaks-out-iii-two-senators-per-state-regardless-of-population.html#ixzz1AzRf6gXe) the two-senators-per-state system, and were in favor of "proportional representation" instead. There are about a million better ways to do it, but Draper's slipshod plan would actually be a step towards that goal—and towards a government that ceases to favor the concerns of rural voters over the urban ones.
Six Californias Proposal (http://www.scribd.com/doc/192645393)
Prvo, Silicijumska dolina, je bila Praznina dok Kalifornija i SAD nisu uložile u nju. Drugo, nedavno smo videli kako bi bila podeljena vlast u SAD da glasaju samo muškarci. Treće, stalno ovde napominjemo da je briga o manjinama najveće pravo većine. O šušama u politici nikad ništa dobro.
Da, silicijumska, navukle me životinje da iskvarim svoj sopstveni govor.
Apropo ovog dalje u tekstu, da činjenica da male i velike države u Americi daju isti broj senatora pa da time ako živiš u većoj državi zapravo bivaš manje predstavljen, to je nešto gde bi bilo zanimljivo raspravljati. Koliko ja shvatam ulogu senata, ona je u originalnoj postavci bila baš u tome da se napravi ravnoteža sa drugim delom Kongresa, House of Representatives, gde su države zastupljene proporcionalno stanovništvu. Dakle, HoR je, ugrubo, predstavljanje građana po proporciji, gde većina uvek preteže, a Senat je balans u kome se između ostalog štiti manjina i savezne države prepoznaju kao nosioci suvereniteta itd.
Ako žele da budu bolje predstavljeni neka idu u Vajoming, Montanu ili Severnu Dakotu. A što se tiče Senat/Kongres ustrojstva, to liči na kopiju britanskog.
Pa,da, ta dvodomna struktura je i u Britaniji, a verujem i u popriličnom broju drugih država. I mi smo u SFRJ imali dvodomnu i višedomnu strukturu... evo, baš gledam, kod nas je to bilo jako komplikovano (http://www.parlament.gov.rs/narodna-skupstina-/istorijat/posle-drugog-svetskog-rata.938.html):
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Do 1953. godine, Narodna skupština je bila jednodomna. Od 1953. do 1963, imala je dva doma: Republičko veće i Veće proizvođača; od 1963. do 1974, činilo ju je pet domova: Republičko veće, Privredno veće, Prosvetno-kulturno veće, Socijalno-zdravstveno veće i Organizaciono-političko veće; od 1974. do 1990. godine bila je trodomna sa sledećim većima: Veće udruženog rada, Veće opština i Društveno-političko veće. Od januara 1991, ponovo je jednodomna.
Verovatno najgluplja javna kontroverza u Americi ne jenjava: rednek iz Luizijane koji ima jedan od najgledanijih rijaliti šoova u Americi - u kome kamere prate njega & njegovu rednek familiju po vazdan - je u intervjuu za GQ izjavio da je homoseksualnost grijeh i da ovaj grijeh vodi u druge grijehove i sad je to kraj sveta, te biće suspendovan iz šoa, te neće jer je njegova porodica zapretila da ako nema njega onda nema ni šoa, te prodavnice uklanjaju određene proizvode iz ponude u znak solidarnosti sa gej populacijom te ih vraćaju u promet kad se narod pobuni i svrsta uz redneka, te Čarli Šin krene da preti po tviteru... Čak su i zvaničnici Luizijane rekli da ako se produkcija šoa prekine na trenutnoj mreži koja ga finansira, država će da uleti da se to nastavi... Lud'lo.
Phil Speaks! Charlie Sheen Rants! Networks Scramble! 7 Biggest New Developments In 'Duck Dynasty' Drama (http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/more-shots-fired-duck-dynasty-war-words-192850230.html)
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Seeing as we've entered the final holiday shopping days (and panic mode), it's understandable that you may not be up-to-speed on the latest developments in the "Duck Dynasty" saga (http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/-duck-dynasty--star-s-anti-gay-remarks-spark-outrage-134231650.html). So we've created this handy little list to fill you in.
1. Late last week, "omg! Insider" obtained footage of a church sermon that (depending on your side of the hullabaloo) provided further evidence of either Phil Robertson's homophobia or his Bible-sanctioned views. In the clip, the patriarch declares that there is a "lack of morality in America."
According to Phil, this lack of morality is proven by the fact that people "bow down to birds, animals, and reptiles, and each other." We're not exactly sure what he means by that, but he goes on to add that "the first thing you see coming out of them is gross sexual immorality. They will dishonor their bodies with one another, degrade each other. ... Women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another, and they received in themselves the due penalty for their perversions."
[Related: How 'Duck Dynasty' Will Survive (and Thrive) Post-Phil Robertson Scandal (http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/how--duck-dynasty--will-survive--and-thrive--post-phil-robertson-scandal-011810552.html)]
2. After his family bonded together and threatened to pull the plug on their A&E show if Phil remains banished, the head Duck Commander himself spoke out for the first time since his quotes to GQ about homosexuality sparked a firestorm — and he's standing by his statements.
"I will not give or back off from my path because you conquered death, Father, so we are not worried about all the repercussions," the reality TV star declared while leading a Bible study group in Louisiana on Sunday, according to the U.K.'s Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2528043/Duck-Dynasty-family-seen-today.html), which had special access to the session. He also added, however, "I love all men and women. I am a lover of humanity, not a hater."
"Sexual sins are numerous and many — I have a few myself," he admitted. "So what is your safest course of action? If you're a man, find yourself a woman, marry them, and keep your sex right there."
3. Louisiana's lieutenant governor expressed his support for Robertson (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/duck-dynasty-louisiana-jay-dardenne-101465.html) and vowed to help protect the future of the show.
"I'm sure a lot of people found the comments offensive. There's no question about that," Jay Dardenne declared. "The point is, he has an opinion and has a set of beliefs and is entitled to those without jeopardizing what has become an extremely popular show across America." In fact, he offered to connect the Robertsons with his own personal TV industry contacts if they reach a stalemate with A&E.
"If the Robertson family cannot come to an agreement with A&E and wants to continue the show, Louisiana already has the infrastructure in place to maintain their record-breaking program," he shared while quickly noting that he would use his own Rolodex, rather than state-funded efforts, to assist.
It's also worth noting that the IStandWithPhil.com petition (http://istandwithphil.com/) has now garnered over 195,000 signatures — just 5,000 short of its 200,000 goal.
[Related: Battle Lines Are Being Drawn Over 'Duck Dynasty' Dad's Suspension (http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/-duck-dynasty--drama--controversy-continues-to-build-over-phil-robertson-s-homosexuality-remarks-180934306.html)]
4. On Saturday, Cracker Barrel pulled "Duck Dynasty" products (http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2013/12/22/cracker-barrel-oops-were-putting-duck-dynasty-products-back-on-our-shelves/) from its shelves — and on Sunday, the comfort food chain put them back.
"When we made the decision to remove and evaluate certain Duck Dynasty items, we offended many of our loyal customers," a statement explained. "You told us we made a mistake... You wrote, you called, and you took to social media to express your thoughts and feelings. You flat-out told us we were wrong. We listened. Today, we are putting all our 'Duck Dynasty' products back in our stores. And we apologize for offending you."
[Related: How 'Duck Dynasty' Became Such a Huge Hit (http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/tv-news/burning-question--how-did-duck-dynasty-become-such-a-hit-this-year-210120788.html)]
5. But Cracker Barrel customers weren't the only ones expressing their outrage. Charlie Sheen took to Twitter to bash Phil Robertson (https://twitter.com/charliesheen/status/414498985269678081).
"hey Mallard brained Phil Robertso [sic]! you have offended and hurt so many dear friends of mine, who DO NOT have the voice or the outreach that I do," he wrote. "Your statements were and are abhorrently and mendaciously unforgivable. The idea that you have a job outside of dirt-clod stacking is a miracle. The only 'Dynasty' you are attached to might be the re-runs of that dated show."
He later followed this up with a few more thoughts.
6. In the midst of all this, still others weighed in.
Mike Kellett, the pastor at Phil Robertson's church (http://www.thewrap.com/duck-dynasty-pastor-says-phil-robertson-knows-gays-weve-people-struggle-sin/) (who has reportedly been praying alongside the family since its patriarch was suspended from filming), stated that Phil has known gay people through this congregation. "We've had people here before that struggle with that sin. He knows them," Kellett shared. "It's not a negative thing."
And potential 2016 presidential candidate Mike Huckabee seized the moment to use Robertson's statements (http://www.newshounds.us/mike_huckabee_suggests_duck_dynasty_s_phil_robertson_and_president_obama_are_on_the_same_gay_rights_page_12222013) to remind voters that Barack Obama opposed gay marriage back in 2008, but has since flip-flopped in his stance.
7. Last but not least, as days go by without a definitive agreement between the Robertsons and A&E, other (much smaller) TV networks have begun to circle the powerful franchise (http://www.tmz.com/2013/12/22/duck-dynasty-other-networks-interested-the-hunt-channel-a-and-e).
Among those throwing their hats into the proverbial ring include the Christian-affiliated Hunt Channel, owned by a man named Merrill Sport, and the outdoorsy Pursuit Channel, run by CEO Rusty Faulk. We'll have to wait and see how this all shakes down, but we can't help but note that the battle for "Duck Dynasty" between Merrill and Rusty could be as exciting as the show itself.
In conclusion, nothing has been resolved between the family and the network, but lines are continuing to be drawn... and clarified... and redrawn.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/24/chicago-area-library-rejects-3000-donation-from-atheist-blogger-because-he-is-a-hate-group/ (http://t.co/QO6hAZfczk)
Честитке и подршка Филу Робертсону због непопуштања ретардираним либералима као што је Чарли Шин. А та дебилна наркоманска глуперда може да скочи у језеро.
U sovjetskoj Americi (i, sve više, ostatku sveta), knjige čitaju
vas:
As New Services Track Habits, the E-Books Are Reading You (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/25/technology/as-new-services-track-habits-the-e-books-are-reading-you.html?ref=technology&pagewanted=all&_r=0)
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SAN FRANCISCO — Before the Internet, books were written — and published — blindly, hopefully. Sometimes they sold, usually they did not, but no one had a clue what readers did when they opened them up. Did they skip or skim? Slow down or speed up when the end was in sight? Linger over the sex scenes?
A wave of start-ups is using technology to answer these questions — and help writers give readers more of what they want. The companies get reading data from subscribers who, for a flat monthly fee, buy access to an array of titles, which they can read on a variety of devices. The idea is to do for books what Netflix did for movies and Spotify for music.
"Self-published writers are going to eat this up," said Mark Coker, the chief executive of Smashwords (http://www.smashwords.com/), a large independent publisher. "Many seem to value their books more than their kids. They want anything that might help them reach more readers."
Last week, Smashwords made a deal (http://www.scribd.com/doc/192561226/Scribd-Partners-with-Smashwords) to put 225,000 books on Scribd, a digital library here that unveiled a reading subscription service in October. Many of Smashwords' books are already on Oyster (https://www.oysterbooks.com/), a New York-based subscription start-up that also began in the fall.
The move to exploit reading data is one aspect of how consumer analytics is making its way into every corner of the culture. Amazon and Barnes & Noble already collect vast amounts of information from their e-readers but keep it proprietary. Now the start-ups — which also include Entitle (https://www.entitlebooks.com/), a North Carolina-based company — are hoping to profit by telling all.
"We're going to be pretty open about sharing this data so people can use it to publish better books," said Trip Adler, Scribd's chief executive.
Quinn Loftis, a writer of young adult paranormal romances who lives in western Arkansas, interacts extensively with her fans on Facebook, Pinterest, Twitter, Goodreads, YouTube, Flickr and her own website. These efforts at community, most of which did not exist a decade ago, have already given the 33-year-old a six-figure annual income. But having actual data about how her books are being read would take her market research to the ultimate level.
"What writer would pass up the opportunity to peer into the reader's mind?" she asked.
Scribd is just beginning to analyze the data from its subscribers. Some general insights: The longer a mystery novel is, the more likely readers are to jump to the end to see who done it. People are more likely to finish biographies than business titles, but a chapter of a yoga book is all they need. They speed through romances faster than religious titles, and erotica fastest of all.
At Oyster, a top book is "What Women Want," promoted as a work that "brings you inside a woman's head so you can learn how to blow her mind." Everyone who starts it finishes it. On the other hand, Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr.'s "The Cycles of American History" blows no minds: fewer than 1 percent of the readers who start it get to the end.
Oyster data shows that readers are 25 percent more likely to finish books that are broken up into shorter chapters. That is an inevitable consequence of people reading in short sessions during the day on an iPhone.
A few writers might be repelled by too much knowledge. But others would be fascinated, as long as they retained control.
"Would we provide this data to an author? Absolutely," said Chantal Restivo-Alessi, chief digital officer for HarperCollins Publishers. "But it is up to him how to write the book. The creative process is a mysterious process."
The services say they will make the data anonymous so readers will not be identified. The privacy policies however are broad. "You are consenting to the collection, transfer, manipulation, storage, disclosure and other uses of your information," Oyster tells new customers.
Before writers will broadly be able to use any data, the services must become viable by making deals with publishers to supply the books. Publishers, however, are suspicious of yet another disruption to their business. HarperCollins has signed up with Oyster and Scribd, but Penguin Random House and Simon & Schuster have thus far stayed away.
Some agents, too, are wary.
"It's hard to tell authors that it's worth starting a new relationship with any of these new services," said Ted Weinstein, an agent in San Francisco. "It is literally an unsustainable business model."
Here is how Scribd (http://www.scribd.com/) and Oyster work: Readers pay about $10 a month for a library of about 100,000 books from traditional presses. They can read as many books as they want.
"We love big readers," said Eric Stromberg, Oyster's chief executive. But Oyster, whose management includes two ex-Google engineers, cannot afford too many of them.
This could be called the Sizzler problem. (http://articles.latimes.com/2005/oct/24/business/fi-golden24) In the 1990s, the steak restaurant chain tried to beef up sales with an all-you-can-eat salad bar, which got bigger as it got more popular. But as more hungry customers came, the chain was forced to lower quality, which caused customers to flee, which resulted in bankruptcy.
"Sure, if you had a buffet and everyone ate everything, it wouldn't be a profitable business," said Mr. Adler of Scribd. "But generally people only eat so much." Only 2 percent of Scribd's subscribers read more than 10 books a month, he said.
These start-ups are being forced to define something that only academic theoreticians and high school English teachers used to wonder about: How much reading does it take to read a book? Because that is when the publisher, and the writer, get paid.
The companies declined to outline their business model, but publishers said Scribd and Oyster offered slightly different deals. On Oyster, once a person reads more than 10 percent of the book, it is officially considered "read." Oyster then has to pay the publisher a standard wholesale fee. With Scribd, it is more complicated. If the reader reads more than 10 percent but less than 50 percent, it counts for a tenth of a sale. Above 50 percent, it is a full sale.
Both services say the response has been enthusiastic, but neither provided precise numbers.
Looming over these start-ups is Amazon, which has already dabbled in the subscription area. Kindle owners who are members of Amazon's $79 annual Prime shipping service are eligible to borrow from a library of 350,000 titles. The program has had limited impact because users can borrow only one book at a time, and it offers few best-sellers.
Amazon may have bigger ambitions. Publishers say the retailer has been quietly asking them about how the new all-you-can-read services work, leading to industry speculation it will set up a rival plan. An Amazon spokesman declined to comment.
Scribd, which has received more than $25 million in venture funding, began as a site for posting documents, including pirated books. Offering a subscription service, said Jared Friedman, Scribd's chief technology officer, "introduces a sort of interesting business opportunity to collaborate with publishers rather than be at odds with them."
He contrasted two romance novels. One had few Amazon reviews and little promotion, but Scribd's data showed 6 out of 10 readers were finishing it — above average for the genre. Another romance had hundreds of reviews on Amazon, but only about 4 out of 10 readers bothered to finish it. They began closing the book, the data showed, when the writer plunged deeper into fantasy. Maybe this was not a good idea.
Some writers, of course, might not be receptive to hearing this.
"If you aren't careful, you could narrow your creativity. You won't take risks," said Ms. Loftis, the young adult novelist. "But the bigger risk is not giving the reader what she wants. I'll take all the data I can get."
A version of this article appears in print on December 25, 2013, on page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: As New Services Track Habits, the E-Books Are Reading You.
Ohrabrujuće je makar videti da čitaoci Njujork Tajmza u komentarima redom sipaju žuč i prezir po ovoj praksi... Evo jednog lepog komentara
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Imagine how learning all this information could have helped Franz Kafka, Virginia Woolf and Ralph Ellison write better books.
Da se notira da američki sud potvrđuje da je pretraživanje i kopiranje čitavog vašeg laptopa na granici, a bez suckog naloga, pa čak i bez "opravdane sumnje" zakonit i bogougodan postupak. Boldovao sam posebno ciničan deo na kraju:
Court Rules No Suspicion Needed for Laptop Searches at Border (https://www.aclu.org/national-security-technology-and-liberty/court-rules-no-suspicion-needed-laptop-searches-border)
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Decision Dismisses ACLU Lawsuit Challenging DHS Search Policy as Unconstitutional
December 31, 2013
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CONTACT: 212-549-2666, media@aclu.org
BROOKLYN – A federal court today dismissed a lawsuit arguing that the government should not be able to search and copy people's laptops, cell phones, and other devices at border checkpoints without reasonable suspicion. An appeal is being considered. Government documents show that thousands of innocent American citizens are searched when they return from trips abroad.
"We're disappointed in today's decision, which allows the government to conduct intrusive searches of Americans' laptops and other electronics at the border without any suspicion that those devices contain evidence of wrongdoing," said Catherine Crump, the American Civil Liberties Union attorney who argued the case in July 2011. "Suspicionless searches of devices containing vast amounts of personal information cannot meet the standard set by the Fourth Amendment, which prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures. Unfortunately, these searches are part of a broader pattern of aggressive government surveillance that collects information on too many innocent people, under lax standards, and without adequate oversight."
The ACLU, the New York Civil Liberties Union, and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers filed the lawsuit in September 2010 against the Department of Homeland Security. DHS asserts the right to look though the contents of a traveler's electronic devices, and to keep the devices or copy the contents in order to continue searching them once the traveler has been allowed to enter the U.S., regardless of whether the traveler is suspected of any wrongdoing.
The lawsuit was filed on behalf of Pascal Abidor, a dual French-American citizen who had his laptop searched and confiscated at the Canadian border; the National Press Photographers Association, whose members include television and still photographers, editors, students and representatives of the photojournalism industry; and the NACDL, which has attorney members in 25 countries.
Abidor was travelling from Montreal to New York on an Amtrak train in May 2010 when he had his laptop searched and confiscated by customs officers. Abidor, an Islamic Studies Ph.D. student at McGill University, was questioned, taken off the train in handcuffs, and held in a cell for several hours before being released without charge. When his laptop was returned 11 days later, there was evidence that many of his personal files had been searched, including photos and chats with his girlfriend.
In June, in response to an ACLU Freedom of Information Act request, DHS released (https://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-and-liberty-immigrants-rights-national-security/dhs-releases-disappointing-civil) its December 2011 Civil Rights/Civil Liberties Impact Assessment of its electronics search policy, concluding that suspicionless searches do not violate the First or Fourth Amendments. The report said that a reasonable suspicion standard is inadvisable because it could lead to litigation and the forced divulgence of national security information, and would prevent border officers from acting on inchoate "hunches," a method that it says has sometimes proved fruitful.
Today's ruling is available at:
aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/abidor_decision.pdf (https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/abidor_decision.pdf)
Ovaj američki precednik ne samo što je komunista koji urušava naciju slobodnih preduzetnika svojim komunističkim idejama o komunizmu, nego sad i tvrdi da :-? "marihuana nije ništa gora od rakije". Pa šta je sledeće?? Prodaja američke dece u pornografsko ropstvo u komunističku Rusiju?
Obama on pot: 'I don't think it is more dangerous than alcohol' (http://news.yahoo.com/obama-marijuana-football-184222270.html)
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President Barack Obama says he views marijuana as a "bad habit" and "a vice," but no more dangerous than alcohol.
"As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life," Obama told The New Yorker's David Remnick (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/01/27/140127fa_fact_remnick). "I don't think it is more dangerous than alcohol."
The president acknowledged marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol "in terms of its impact on the individual consumer."
"It's not something I encourage," Obama continued, "and I've told my daughters I think it's a bad idea, a waste of time, not very healthy."
Still, he said, "we should not be locking up kids or individual users for long stretches of jail time when some of the folks who are writing those laws have probably done the same thing."
On the legalization of recreational marijuana in Colorado and Washington, Obama said, "it's important for it to go forward because it's important for society not to have a situation in which a large portion of people have at one time or another broken the law and only a select few get punished."
Obama's support of legalization was welcomed by pot advocates.
"The first step to improving our nation's marijuana policy is admitting that marijuana is less harmful than alcohol," Mason Tvert, director of the Marijuana Policy Project, said in a statement. "Now that he has recognized that laws jailing adults for using marijuana are inappropriate, it is time to amend for those errors and adopt a more fact-based marijuana policy.
But the president also said legalization is a slippery slope:
"When it comes to harder drugs, the harm done to the user is profound and the social costs are profound. And you do start getting into some difficult line-drawing issues. If marijuana is fully legalized and at some point folks say, Well, we can come up with a negotiated dose of cocaine that we can show is not any more harmful than vodka, are we open to that? If somebody says, We've got a finely calibrated dose of meth, it isn't going to kill you or rot your teeth, are we O.K. with that?"
His comments were part of a lengthy, wide-ranging profile (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/01/27/140127fa_fact_remnick) published online Sunday. Some other notable quotes from the piece:
· Obama doesn't have a son. But if he did, he "would not let my son play pro football." He then compared concussion-prone football players to boxers and smokers: They all know the dangers. "At this point, there's a little bit of caveat emptor," Obama said. "These guys, they know what they're doing. They know what they're buying into. It is no longer a secret. It's sort of the feeling I have about smokers."
· Obama on losing some older white voters in the 2012 election: "There's no doubt that there's some folks who just really dislike me because they don't like the idea of a black president. Now, the flip side of it is there are some black folks and maybe some white folks who really like me and give me the benefit of the doubt precisely because I'm a black president."
· His 2004 speech at the Democratic National Convention in Boston put him on the map, politically, but critics say its theme — about Washington rising above partisan politics — was a fantasy. "My speech in Boston was an aspirational speech," Obama countered. "It was not a description of our politics. It was a description of what I saw in the American people."
· The president says he doesn't watch "Meet The Press," "Reliable Sources" or any of the Sunday political talk shows, for that matter. "I don't watch Sunday-morning shows," Obama said. "That's been a well-established rule." He usually spends them with his family or plays basketball.
· Obama on the expectations of the office during a second term: "The conventional wisdom is that a President's second term is a matter of minimizing the damage and playing defense rather than playing offense. But, as I've reminded my team, the day after I was inaugurated for a second term, we're in charge of the largest organization on earth, and our capacity to do some good, both domestically and around the world, is unsurpassed, even if nobody is paying attention."
The Register analizira i prevodi Obamin govor od pre neki dan koji se zaklinjao da će smanjiti špijunažu nad sopstvenim građanima:
Those NSA 'reforms' in full: El Reg translates US Prez Obama's pledges (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/18/that_obama_nsa_reform_speech_with_el_reg_annotations/?page=1)
Ahahah, ovo ko iz neke priče Harlana Elisona:
Dve lezbijke preko krejgslista (dakle, sajta za lične oglase) tražile donatora sperme da bi imale dete. Čovek se javio, potpisao s njima ugovor kojim se odrekao ikakvog prava na očinstvo, dao šta treba. Žena rodila, no, izgleda da ekonomski nije bila baš u najboljijoj situaciji jer je primala pomoć od države. Sad država juri donatora sperme da joj refundira tu pomoć i da nastavi da plaća alimentaciju iako on ženu nije ni vido. Jasno je da su ovde zakoni pisani da pameti privedu neodgovorne očeve naletele na neočekivan slučaj...
U.S. Sperm Donor Told to Pay Child Support (http://healthland.time.com/2014/01/23/sperm-donor-must-pay-child-support/)
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What began with a Craigslist ad from a lesbian couple calling for a sperm donor in rural Topeka, Kansas ended in court on Wednesday with a judge ordering the donor to pay child support.
William Marotta claims to have waived his rights as a parent during the process, but Shawnee County District Judge Mary Mattivi maintained that the parties did not enlist a licensed physician, which nullifies his claim to being a sperm donor.
"In this case, quite simply, the parties failed to perform to statutory requirement of the Kansas Parentage Act in not enlisting a licensed physician at some point in the artificial insemination process," Mattivi wrote in her decision, according to AP (http://news.msn.com/us/judge-rules-kan-sperm-donor-owes-child-support#tscptmt).
The case to have Marotta declared the father was filed by Kansas Department for Children and Families in October 2012. He could now effectively be held responsible for around $6,000 in assistance already provided by the state along with future child support payments.
Marotta's attorney slammed the judge's decision and claimed the state was "vilifying" his client.
[AP (http://news.msn.com/us/judge-rules-kan-sperm-donor-owes-child-support#tscptmt)]
Court: Marotta is a father, not merely a sperm donor (http://cjonline.com/news/2014-01-22/court-marotta-father-not-merely-sperm-donor)
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A Topeka man who donated sperm to a lesbian couple is the presumptive father to a baby one of the woman bore and is subject to paying child support, a Shawnee County District Court judge ruled Wednesday.
In her written decision, District Court Judge Mary Mattivi said that because William Marotta and the same-sex couple failed to secure the services of a physician during the artificial insemination process, he wasn't entitled to the same protections given other sperm donors under Kansas law.
"Kansas law is clear that a 'donor of semen provided to a licensed physician for use in artificial insemination of a woman other than the donor's wife is treated in law as if he were not the birth father of a child thereby conceived, unless agreed to in writing by the donor and the woman,' " Mattivi wrote.
"In this case, quite simply, the parties failed to conform to the statutory requirements of the Kansas Parentage Act in not enlisting a licensed physician at some point in the artificial insemination process, and the parties' self-designation of (Marotta) as a sperm donor is insufficient to relieve (Marotta) of parental rights and responsibilities" to the child, the judge concluded.
Marotta contended he was only a sperm donor to a same-sex couple seeking a child, but the Kansas Department for Children and Families argued he is a father who owes child support to his daughter. The girl is 4 years old.
The requirement to include a licensed physician in the artificial insemination dates to 1973 when the Uniform Parentage Act came into being and was adopted by Kansas, Mattivi said.
The judge noted it is "uncontroverted" that the semen in this case wasn't provided to a licensed physician.
"Accordingly, the statute as written does not afford (Marotta) the bar to paternity that he seeks," she wrote.
The Marotta decision "appears" to be a case of first impression in Kansas, the judge said. That means a specific issue in the ruling hasn't been dealt with before in that court, and there isn't binding authority on the matter.
In a similar case in 1986 in California, a court ruled that a man seeking to be involved in a child's upbringing was the father, not just a sperm donor, because the parties didn't use a licensed physician in the artificial insemination process.
Both sides asked Mattivi to issue a summary judgment in their favor. A summary judgment is a determination made by a court without a full trial.
Benoit Swinnen, an attorney representing Marotta, said he was "disappointed" but "not totally surprised" by the decision. As of Wednesday afternoon, Swinnen said he didn't know his client's reaction because he hadn't yet been able to speak with him.
Swinnen said he "absolutely" would appeal the case if that is Marotta's intention.
Phyllis Gilmore, secretary of the Kansas Department for Children and Families, in a written statement Wednesday said that state law clearly states that people must go through a licensed physician to avoid financial responsibilities of parenthood.
"We appreciate the judge's careful consideration and attention to the law," Gilmore said.
During oral arguments, Mattivi heard from Timothy Keck, co-lead counsel for the state; Swinnen; Jill Dykes, guardian ad litem for the child; and Jennifer Berger, attorney representing the child's mother, Jennifer Schreiner.
The Kansas Department for Children and Families filed the case in October 2012 seeking to have Marotta declared the father of a girl Schreiner bore in 2009.
Marotta opposed the action, saying he didn't intend to be the child's father, and that he had signed a contract waiving his parental rights and responsibilities while agreeing to donate sperm in a plastic cup to Schreiner and Angela Bauer, who was then her partner. Marotta contacted the women after they placed a Craigslist ad seeking a sperm donor.
During closing arguments Oct. 25, Keck said the case focused on child support. Swinnen countered by citing several court rulings he said support the argument Marotta was legally a sperm donor and not required to pay child support.
Swinnen contested the Kansas statute, saying it didn't specifically direct that the artificial insemination must be carried out by a physician.
The state has been seeking to have Marotta declared the child's father so he can be responsible for about $6,000 in public assistance the state provided, as well as future child support.
The documents show Schreiner indicated she didn't know the name of the donor or "have any information" about him in her application for child support. But a sperm donor contract between Marotta and the couple includes his name, and the agency noted the couple talked about their appreciation for him in an interview with The Topeka Capital-Journal.
Cop Comped
Pepper sprayer hits the jackpot
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In November 2011, Lt. John Pike, a police officer at the University of California, Davis, was caught on video pepper spraying nonviolent protesters in the face. In October 2013, the Division of Workers' Compensation awarded him $38,055 for the suffering he is said to have endured following the incident.
The footage of Pike attacking the protesters, who were sitting on a sidewalk during a demonstration against tuition increases, quickly went viral, serving as fodder for many memes and parodies. Following the incident, Pike reportedly lived at various locations. He received thousands of angry emails and text messages after the hacking group Anonymous leaked his contact information. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, Pike was suspended with pay and earned $119,067 in 2011. He left the force in July 2012.
Earlier in 2013, after settling a federal lawsuit, the university paid a total of $1 million to the 36 people who were sprayed. Pike therefore received more compensation than each of the protesters he assaulted. xuss xuss xuss xyxy
http://reason.com/archives/2014/01/26/pepper-sprayer-hits-the-jackpo (http://reason.com/archives/2014/01/26/pepper-sprayer-hits-the-jackpo)
Da ne ispadne da se stavljam na stranu ugnjetavača, ali ako su protestvujući građani blokirali javni prostor koji je trebalo da bude odblokiran, a ovaj policajac dobio nalog da prostor oslobodi, ovo je najnežniji način koji je mogao da odabere. Mislim da bi u manje nežnim varijantama gledali kako policajac sa kolegama pendreči akademce ili, ako ima dovoljno policajaca, kako ih odnose... Dakle, ne znam okolnosti i nisam pročitao mnogo o slučaju, ali ovaj je mogao da bude i mnogo veća životinja, čini mi se, a nije...
AKO je dobio takav nalog... AKO je nalog bio da to uradi PO SVAKU CENU... AKO je on jedini bio vredan i poslušan, a ovi drugi pajkani što stoje u pozadini vatali krivinu... AKO je prskanje suzavcem studenata koji mirno sede normalna procedura... i AKO je mnogo strašnije to što je posle ovoga zasluženo postao predmet sprdnje i ruglo policije nego što je ovu decu mogo da oslepi time... pa je zato dobio veću lovu od njih... onda... e, onda ok.
Setih se sad onog vica kad citam Mehu i Ghoula...."moz' tako, a moz' i ovako"
Quote from: Ghoul on 27-01-2014, 08:35:21
AKO je dobio takav nalog... AKO je nalog bio da to uradi PO SVAKU CENU... AKO je on jedini bio vredan i poslušan, a ovi drugi pajkani što stoje u pozadini vatali krivinu... AKO je prskanje suzavcem studenata koji mirno sede normalna procedura... i AKO je mnogo strašnije to što je posle ovoga zasluženo postao predmet sprdnje i ruglo policije nego što je ovu decu mogo da oslepi time... pa je zato dobio veću lovu od njih... onda... e, onda ok.
Pa, kažem, ne znam detalje a lijen sam da istražujem, ali čisto deduktivno: svi znamo da je Amerika uvela "free speech zone" koncept da bi se istovremeno građanima obezbedilo pravo na (dostojanstven) protest i iznošenje zahteva, a da se istovremeno ti isti građani uklone sa važnih saobraćajnica, sa kapija i vratnica institucija itd., gde bi mogli da zasmetaju drugim građanima u vršenju dnevnih rutina ili, čak, da onima protiv kojih protestuju poremete dnevni itinerar. Nešto kao što je Dačić LGBT aktivistima nudio da paradiraju na ušću gde ih niko ne vidi, ali ih je mnogo lakše obezbediti.
Kad građani ignorišu zone slobodnog govora i montiraju se na javnu površinu, formalno ometajući javni red i mir - makar i time što samo sede na zemlji - onda sistem reaguje primenom institucionalizovane sile jer je pretpostavka da građani krše ne samo društveni ugovor nego i zakone a sistem je dužan da sprovodi zakone.* Institucionalizovana sila je bolja od nasumične, spontane sile jer, prezjumabli, ima obuku, lanac komande i svest o vršenju javne dužnosti u intreresu svih građana, pa neće prekoračiti neke civilizovane granice.**
U tom smislu, policajci u pozadini fotografije su možda tu, spremni da premlate neposlušnu studentariju jer zakon veli - a njima je nadležni starešina eksplicitno naredio - da studentarija ima da se skloni odatle jer smeta poštenom svetu koji bi da ide na poso itd. U tom smislu možda dotični policajac koji sipa biber-sprej u oči mirnim protestantima zapravo pokušava da izbegne batinanje, govoreći "Ajmo, deco razlaz, ne mož da se sedi ovde" na šta mu oni odgovaraju "Jedi govna, kerino fašistička, ua vlada, dole sistem, živelo bractvo i jedinstvo" a na šta on veli "Deco, autorizovani smo da upotrebimo silu, vite one tamo momke koji jedva čekaju da vas salome? Nemojte da pravimo sranja, ajde brzo, kući!", a oni opet "Puši ga, slugeranjo sistema, kerino jedna, av av av av av!" na šta on, da im pokaže da se ne šali, izvadi biber sprej pa prskaj po balavurdiji.
Da li to znači da je ovaj policajac na slici divan čovek, filozof i humanista, Gandi 21. veka, patrijarh Pavle reinkarnejtid, Sveti Sava zapadne obale i da bih mu ja dao ćerku za ženu kada bih je imao? Ne nužno, ali može da znači da se u datoj situaciji i u sklopu onog što možemo da smatramo za verovatna naređenja koja je dobio i verovatnu atmosferu koja je tamo vladala, on ponašao sa svešću da predstavlja SVE građane, da ne treba da dela impulsivno, primenjujući nerazumnu silu, da je jedan nezahvalan zadatak obavljao sa minimumom agresije i maksimumom empatije koju je situacija diktirala.
Naravno, sve ovo možda nije tako i možda je čovek naprosto sadistički uživao prskajući uoči bespomoćne demonstrante za koje je znao da se neće usuditi da mu uzvrate...
Tragedija Amerike je svakako između ostalog u tome što policajac obavlja jedan suludo nezahvalan i rizičan posao pa onda i u situacijama koje sa strane deluju smešno, apsurdno, bezopasno, oni primenjuju obuku i protokol koji onda deluju kao preterana sila. Na primer, ma koliko sad to zazvučalo suludo, jedan od najpoznatijih slučajeva policijske brutalnosti - premlaćivanje Rodnija Kinga - ako zapravo pogledamo snimak, na njemu se ne vidi upotreba preterane ili nekontrolisane sile. Čovek je bežao od policije autoputem, vozeći suludo, kad je na kraju zaustavljen, ponašao se nekontrolisano i opirao hapšenju i mada ne može da se kaže da li je bio naoružan ili možda mogao da povredi nekog od policajaca koji su ga hapsili, svakako je plauzibilno pomisliti da je i jedno i drugo bila verovatnoća koja se ne sme zanemariti. Policajci su ga savladali sledeći obuku i onda onemogućili da se opire - a opirao se - time što su ga pendrecima udarali po nogama. Dakle, nije dobio pendrek u glavu ili čizmu u zube, kao što bi bilo u slučaju klasične policijske brutalnosti, već niz kontrolisanih udaraca po nogama da bi prestao da se opire, prestao da predstavlja potencijalnu pretnju za policajce na dužnosti, a da sam pretrpi što je manje moguće fizičke povrede. Nesreća je što živimo u svetu gde tu vrstu nasilja čovek može da nazove ikako "pozitivnom" ali, tako mu je to.
*ovde ćemo ignorisati očigledan problem da mnogi građani upravo protestuju jer sistem ne sprovodi zakone jednako za sve i da društvene strukture koje imaju moć, uticaj i novac te iste građane često umeju da oštete bilo kršeći zakon, bilo kreativno ga tumačeći pomoću skupo plaćenih advokata ili potplaćenih sudija, bilo plate lobiste da proguraju zakone koji njima odgovaraju iako u crno zaviju većinu građana. ovo se zna i ne pričamo o tome sad.
** Koje se od epohe do epohe i od geografske širine do geografske širine drugačije percipiraju.
Is Barack Obama an imperial president? (http://news.yahoo.com/barack-obama-imperial-president-182313136.html)
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President Obama's use of executive action to get around congressional gridlock is unparalleled in modern times, some scholars say. But to liberal activists, he's not going far enough.
Ju Hong's voice rang out loud and clear, interrupting the most powerful man in the world.
"You have a power to stop deportation for all undocumented immigrants in this country!" the young South Korean man yelled at President Obama (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Barack+Obama) during a speech on immigration reform last November in San Francisco. Waving away security guards, Mr. Obama turned and addressed Mr. Hong, himself undocumented. "Actually, I don't," the president said. "And that's why we're here."
"We've got this Constitution, we've got this whole thing about separation of powers," Obama continued. "So there is no shortcut to politics, and there's no shortcut to democracy."
The reality isn't so simple. Obama, a former constitutional law professor, was once skeptical of the aggressive use of presidential power. During the 2008 campaign, he accused President George W. Bush (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/George+W.+Bush) of regularly circumventing Congress. Yet as president, Obama has grown increasingly bold in his own use of executive action, at times to controversial effect.
The president (or his administration) has unilaterally changed elements of the Affordable Care Act (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Patient+Protection+and+Affordable+Care+Act) (ACA); declared an anti-gay-rights law unconstitutional; lifted the threat of deportation for an entire class of undocumented immigrants; bypassed Senate confirmation of controversial nominees; waived compliance requirements in education law; and altered the work requirements under welfare reform. This month, the Obama administration took the highly unusual step of announcing that it will recognize gay marriages performed in Utah – even though Utah itself says it will not recognize them while the issue is pending in court.
Early in his presidency, Obama also expanded presidential warmaking powers, surveillance of the American public, and extrajudicial drone strikes on alleged terrorists outside the United States, including Americans – going beyond Mr. Bush's own global war on terror following 9/11. But more recently, he has flexed his executive muscle more on domestic policy.
In the process, Obama's claims of executive authority have infuriated opponents, while emboldening supporters to demand more on a range of issues, from immigration and gay rights to the minimum wage and Guantánamo Bay prison camp.
To critics, Obama is the ultimate "imperial president," willfully violating the Constitution to further his goals, having failed to convince Congress of the merits of his arguments. To others, he is exercising legitimate executive authority in the face of an intransigent Congress and in keeping with the practices of past presidents.
The course of Obama's final three years in office, in which he has promised continuing assertive use of executive action, will be shaped by this debate.
The tug of history
On the eve of Obama's fifth State of the Union message, on Jan. 28, the president faces a steep challenge. His job approval has plummeted to the low 40s, following the disastrous rollout of his health-care reform and public outrage over massive data collection by the National Security Agency (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/National+Security+Agency). Unemployment is falling steadily but remains high, at 6.7 percent.
"We're 4-1/2 years into an alleged recovery, and most Americans still think we're in a recession," says William Galston, a Clinton White House (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/The+White+House) veteran and scholar at the Brookings Institution in Washington.
Even though Obama will never face the voters again, he has plenty of incentive to boost his game. Now he's playing for his legacy, and the judgment of the history books. Politically, he's playing for the final national election of his presidency – next November's midterms, in which Democratic control of the Senate is at risk. Reclaiming the House from the Republicans is close to impossible. Divided government is Obama's near-certain reality for the rest of his presidency.
Still, keeping the Senate in Democratic hands remains critical to Obama's legacy: It will allow him to confirm presidential nominees – including most judges, who have lifetime tenure – with a simple majority after Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid engineered a rule change last November.
Restoring public confidence in Obama's trustworthiness and competence as an executive is also critical, as the president tries to move beyond the "Obamacare" fiasco and National Security Agency snooping. Republicans are already firmly lashing the health reform's woes to Democratic candidates' necks. But nothing will impress voters more than a sense that their personal financial situation is improving. Cue Obama's focus on what he calls "the defining challenge of our time," growing inequality and a lack of upward mobility. It will be a central theme in the State of the Union message, including a call for Congress to boost the federal minimum wage.
Early in the new year, White House officials were cautiously optimistic that the December budget deal may signal new momentum toward bipartisan cooperation, at least in future budgetary and fiscal matters. Republicans would rather keep the spotlight on Obamacare woes than risk public blame for another government shutdown or more brinkmanship over the debt ceiling, which the Treasury Department says will be reached in late February.
But one point is certain: It's a new day for Team Obama. John Podesta (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/John+Podesta), former chief of staff to President Clinton (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Bill+Clinton) and a turnaround artist, has put on his cape and swooped into the West Wing for a one-year tour as a counselor. The president has also brought back the highly regarded Phil Schiliro to oversee the continuing health-care rollout and made deputy communications director (and Capitol Hill insider) Katie Beirne Fallon his legislative affairs director.
But it's the arrival of Mr. Podesta that has Washington buzzing. He ran the Obama transition after his first election and then repaired to his think tank, the Center for American Progress, resisting entreaties to join the administration. Most important, his passion is climate change, and he's a big believer in executive action – by the president himself, as well as via agency rules and regulations.
"I think [White House officials] were naturally preoccupied with legislating at first, and I think it took them a while to make the turn to execution. They are focused on that now," Podesta told Politico last year before agreeing to his new White House gig. "They have to realize that the president has broad authority, that he's not just the prime minister. He can drive a whole range of action. They always grasped that on foreign policy and in the national security area. Now they are doing it on the domestic side."
The (un)limits of executive power
Starting with George Washington, American presidents have used executive orders, proclamations, and other techniques to wield power, usually without controversy. These moves can be as important as the Emancipation Proclamation, and as trivial as an executive order allowing federal workers to leave work early on Christmas Eve.
They carry the force of law, but are ill-defined. Legal scholars disagree even on whether there's a constitutional "bright line" that defines what a president can do on his own and what requires congressional action.
"It gets controversial when a president simply states that he's acting under the power granted to him by the Constitution and laws of the United States," says Phillip J. Cooper, author of the book "By Order of the President: The Use and Abuse of Executive Direct Action."
Bush invited controversy with his aggressive use of "signing statements," written pronouncements during bill signings that explain the president's view of a law – including at times the constitutionality of some aspects of it. In his first presidential campaign, Obama decried Bush's practice, but as president, he has continued it.
In their use of executive orders, Bush and Obama are virtually tied: In his first five years in office, Bush issued 165 orders, versus 167 by Obama. But a bean-counting approach doesn't capture the scope of a president's approach to executive power.
"It's really the character of the actions, and their subject," says Jonathan Turley (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Jonathan+Turley), a constitutional scholar at George Washington University in Washington, D.C. "In my view, Obama has surpassed George W. Bush in the level of circumvention of Congress and the assertion of excessive presidential power. I don't think it's a close question."
Many of Obama's most controversial power plays have come through means other than executive orders. Here are some examples:
•Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA). This policy, announced by the Department of Homeland Security in 2012, came via a memorandum that directs authorities to exercise "prosecutorial discretion" in dealing with some young undocumented immigrants.
If they meet the criteria for eligibility, they are shielded temporarily from deportation and allowed to work. The DACA program enacted many of the goals of the failed DREAM Act legislation, though it does not create a path to citizenship.
Critics say that waiving deportation laws for more than a million people is not "prosecutorial discretion" – it's policymaking by executive fiat, usurping the role of Congress. Simon Lazarus, senior counsel at the Constitutional Accountability Center, disagrees, calling DACA "perfectly compatible with the president's discretion in the immigration area."
Ten immigration agents challenged DACA in federal court, saying the policy undermined their duty to enforce the law. Last summer the judge threw out the case on jurisdictional grounds, but suggested DACA was inherently unlawful.
Politics also infused how both sides handled DACA. For Obama, it was an obvious play for the Latino vote ahead of the 2012 election. For congressional Republicans (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/U.S.+Republican+Party), even if they could have attained "standing" to sue – a major problem in efforts to challenge executive action – acting to undo a policy that helps sympathetic young immigrants would have been bad politics. So they chose not to fight it.
•Obamacare. Last July, when the president delayed the mandate for large employers to provide health coverage for their employees by a year, his critics cried foul.
"Obama's not interpreting the law; he's changing the law," says Mr. Turley. "He's changing deadlines that were the subject of intense legislative debate."
The Obama administration also did an about-face on the requirement that members of Congress and their staff get their health insurance via the government exchanges, without the government subsidy they were receiving under the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program. Under the ACA, they would not have been eligible for subsidies – leading to fears of a brain drain from Capitol Hill.
Last August, the Office of Personnel Management issued a rule allowing Hill employees to keep their federal subsidy for health insurance. The plans offered through the exchanges qualified as "health benefit plans" for the purposes of the subsidy, OPM said.
•Gay marriage. Another bracing move by the Obama administration came in 2011, when the Department of Justice announced it would no longer defend in court the Defense of Marriage Act, a 1996 law that banned federal recognition of same-sex marriages. The Supreme Court (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/U.S.+Supreme+Court) went on to strike down part of the law last June, but that does not lessen the highly unusual nature of an administration declaring on its own that a law was unconstitutional, before the court had ruled.
•Recess appointments. In yet another aggressive use of executive action – bypassing the Senate in making recess appointments to key executive branch positions when the Senate is technically still in session – Obama may be on the verge of getting slapped down by the Supreme Court. On Jan. 13, the high court heard arguments over Obama's three controversial recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board in 2012.
Looking across the landscape of Obama's bold record of executive action, Turley of George Washington University doesn't mince words.
"President Obama meets every definition of an imperial presidency," says Turley, who notes that he voted for Obama. "He is the president that Richard Nixon always wanted to be."
The Constitution states that the president "shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed." Critics say that in decreeing changes to laws – such as the delay of the employer mandate under the ACA – Obama has repeatedly violated that constitutional command.
Others defend Obama, saying that the president's critics are using the Constitution as a political weapon. Mr. Lazarus says the critics "flout long-established Supreme Court precedent and they contradict the consistent practice of all modern presidencies, Republican and Democratic, to implement complex and consequential regulatory programs."
Indeed, Democrats (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/U.S.+Democratic+Party) defend Obama's changes to the ACA with a list of ad hoc changes the Bush administration made to the Medicare prescription drug program when it went into effect in 2006. But when he was asked directly about the delayed employer mandate in a New York Times interview last July, Obama didn't argue for the legality of his moves or raise the precedent of the rollout of Bush's drug plan. Instead, he lashed out at his critics.
"There's not an action that I take you don't have some folks in Congress who say that I'm usurping my authority," Obama said. "Some of those folks think I usurp my authority by having the gall to win the presidency."
Constitutional scholar Lou Fisher is baffled by Obama's personal response. He believes Obama was justified in delaying the employer mandate on constitutional grounds as well as by "the practical need to avoid harming the program through effective and premature implementation," as he put it in a December article in the Boston Review.
"He could have argued that you encounter things you don't anticipate" when implementing a major law, says Mr. Fisher, who spent 40 years at the Congressional Research Service as a specialist on separation of powers. "But no, he keeps digging himself in deeper."
Signature politics
The politics of executive power is risky. Wielding it often, instead of going through Congress, can look like a crutch. And it further poisons the well of already icy relations with Congress. Then there's the issue of an executive order's durability, and the reality of elections that, sooner or later, bring the opposition party into power.
"Executive orders can be undone very easily," says Mr. Galston, the former Clinton aide. "If you want to make enduring change, you have to work through the established institutions and procedures for making such changes."
Obama says he prefers getting congressional buy-in, rather than moving unilaterally. But getting Congress to act has become a Sisyphean task. Last year was one of its least productive on record; its most memorable act may have been failing to fund the government, leading to a shutdown.
Not that there's anything wrong with issuing executive orders as a legitimate function of the presidency, Galston notes.
"Within appropriate limits, the president ought to use them," he says. "You don't have to be a great and subtle reader of the Federalist Papers to know that Alexander Hamilton, the father of the executive, talked about it as the source of energy in the government."
But sometimes that energy can create its own momentum. Obama's frequent use of executive action has only whetted activists' appetite for more, squeezing the president from the left even as his critics scream tyranny and, along the fringe, talk about impeachment.
Remember Ju Hong, the young South Korean man who was invited to stand with the president during an immigration reform speech – and suddenly began heckling him? Obama's DACA move was huge and controversial, but for immigration reform activists, it was only a start. Why not just give every otherwise-law-abiding undocumented immigrant a free pass while Congress sorts out the law? some ask.
Obama clearly believes he can't do that, but what's not clear is whether he might decide he can waive deportation for another group, such as the parents of the young DACA beneficiaries.
On the issue of inequality, Obama is urging Congress to raise the federal minimum wage – a campaign that has boomeranged back on the president: Progressives are lobbying him to use his executive authority to raise the minimum wage for federal contract workers, but he hasn't responded. Some liberals in Congress openly question whether he's more talk than action.
On gay rights, Obama has long faced pressure to sign an executive order banning workplace discrimination against gay, lesbian, and transgender federal contractors. But he has resisted, saying he would rather Congress pass the broader Employment Non-Discrimination Act. ENDA would prohibit workplace discrimination based on sexual orientation by most employers, but the legislation is stalled.
On Guantánamo, Obama was outmaneuvered by Congress after he signed an executive order early on ordering the controversial detention center closed. And so it remains open. But in the eyes of some legal experts, Obama is failing to take creative advantage of his power as commander in chief in dealing with the camp.
"Win, lose, or draw, it is time to get around Congress," writes Harvard University law professor Noah Feldman at Bloomberg.com. "And if ordinary politics won't do the trick, going to the courts may be the best option – because it is the only one."
Checks and imbalances?
Obama prefers to pick his fights and the timing of them carefully as he wields executive power. And for members of Congress who want to stop him, the remedies for perceived overreach are limited. Lawmakers who feel the president has flouted the laws they have passed have trouble getting "standing" in court to sue the executive branch.
Some try anyway. On Jan. 6, Sen. Ron Johnson (R) of Wisconsin filed suit to challenge the administration's decision to subsidize the health insurance of members of Congress and their staff, against the letter of the ACA. Sen. Rand Paul (R) of Kentucky is filing a class-action lawsuit against the National Security Agency over its bulk phone-record collection.
At the recent House Judiciary Committee hearing on presidential power, witnesses presented other options. "The ultimate check on presidential lawlessness is elections and, in extreme cases, impeachment," said Nicholas Rosenkranz, a law professor at Georgetown University.
Another witness suggested that Congress become more assertive. "Congress has lots of power, if it chooses to use it," said Lazarus of the Constitutional Accountability Center. "The power of the purse is an enormous power, and I think that if I were you I would find ways to influence policy in using the Congress's powers, which you're not doing."
In addition, public opinion could dampen the president's enthusiasm for taking matters into his own hands. In a Christian Science Monitor/TIPP poll taken Jan. 4-7, Americans said they did not favor a president taking executive action when Congress is gridlocked. In general, 41 percent of Americans approved of executive action in such cases, with 55 percent disapproving.
On expanding gay rights, 43 percent approved of the president acting on his own, while 53 percent disapproved. On the question of shielding new categories of undocumented immigrants from deportation, 33 percent approved of presidential action, and 63 percent disapproved. On raising the minimum wage for federal contractors, 38 percent wanted Obama to act, and 58 percent didn't.
Obama's final mark
Year 6 holds the key to the rest of Obama's presidency. Can he regain the trust of the American people? Will the ACA begin to work? Can Democrats hold onto the Senate?
Obama's three immediate predecessors all endured crises in their second terms. Presidents Reagan and Clinton recovered politically and left office with strong economies. Bush did not. Solid economic performance in the next year would go a long way toward helping Obama recover, though presidents have limited ability to affect the economy on their own.
What can Obama do to overcome the problems of Year 5?
"The only thing in this image-saturated age is a real accomplishment," says Jeremy Mayer, a public policy professor at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va. "It has to be something concrete; it can't be oratory. Oratory cannot save him anymore."
If Obama can say that 10 million Americans have health insurance who didn't have it when he was inaugurated, that's something. Ditto a breakthrough in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, or an end to the Syria conflict. Foreign policy is often the refuge of second-term presidents.
Some Republicans see an opportunity to move on immigration reform this spring, though in piecemeal fashion, which is OK with Obama as long as the bills accomplish his broad objectives – including a path to citizenship.
But if that effort fails, 2014 could be the year of executive action. On Jan. 3, Obama announced two executive measures aimed at making it easier to keep firearms out of the hands of the mentally ill. Podesta's arrival at the White House may foreshadow action on climate change.
"John is a guy who knows how to get things done," says Elgie Holstein of the Environmental Defense Fund and a former colleague of Podesta's in the Clinton White House.
Čisto da se vidi da je Velja Ilić sa svojom vendetom protiv fascikli sitna riba, evo američkog kongresmena koji televizijskom reporteru, pred kamerom preti da će da ga polomi na pola (http://news.yahoo.com/-i-will-break-you-in-half---republican-congressmen-threatens-to-throw-reporter-off-balcony-during-interview-053744777.html).
Rep. Michael Grimm Accosts NY1 Reporter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=425ysh-24wo#ws)
Ako ne možete da dobijete uput za specijalistu, tražite za neki aerodrom.
FULL BODY SCANS AT AMERICAN AIRPORTS:
TSA disclosed the following Airport Screening Results
YTD 2013 Statistics On Airport Full Body Screening From TSA :
Terrorists Discovered
0
Transvestites
133
Hernias
1,485
Hemorrhoid Cases
3,172
Enlarged Prostates
8,249
Breast Implants
59,350
Natural Blondes
3
It was also discovered that 308 politicians had no balls.....
Just thought you'd like to know!
Frakovanje je možda medžik bulit u stalnom ratu za (jeftinije) gorivo, ali istovremeno radikalno havariše okoliš do te mere da su oblasti u Americi gde se to radi a gde je i inače nestašica vode, sad već kao u problemu. Tvrdi se ovde:
Fracking is draining water from US areas suffering major shortages - report (http://rt.com/usa/fracking-water-drought-shortages-768/)
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Some of the most drought-ravaged areas of the US are also heavily targeted for oil and gas development using hydraulic fracturing - a practice that exacerbates water shortages - according to a new report.
Three-quarters of the nearly 40,000 oil and gas wells drilled in the US since 2011 were located in areas of the country facing water scarcity, according to research by the Ceres investor network. Over half of those new wells were in areas experiencing drought conditions.
Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking (http://rt.com/usa/fracking-colorado-birth-defects-477/), in those wells required the use of 97 billion gallons of water, Ceres found.
"Hydraulic fracturing is increasing competitive pressures for water in some of the country's most water-stressed and drought-ridden regions," said Mindy Lubber, president of the Ceres green investors' network.
Lubber warned that the fracking boom across the US puts the industry on a "collision course" with other water users.
Fracking is the highly controversial process of injecting water, sand, and various chemicals into layers of rock, in hopes of releasing oil and gas deep underground. Fracking in a single well can take millions of gallons of freshwater. Much of the drilling has occurred in areas mired in multi-year droughts.
Half of the 97 billion gallons of water used since 2011 for fracking have gone to wells in Texas, a state in the midst of a severe, years-long drought. Meanwhile, oil and gas production through fracking is on track to double in the state over the next five years, the Guardian reported.
The report also found that rural communities in the Lone Star State are being hit hard by the fracking bonanza occurring especially in the Eagle Ford Shale in south Texas.
"Shale producers are having significant impacts at the county level, especially in smaller rural counties with limited water infrastructure capacity," the report said. "With water use requirements for shale producers in the Eagle Ford already high and expected to double in the coming 10 years, these rural counties can expect severe water stress challenges in the years ahead."
Levels of vital aquifers that serve local communities near Eagle Ford have dropped by up to 300 feet in the last few years.
Many small communities in areas of heavy (http://rt.com/usa/azle-texas-austin-fracking-979/) fracking in Texas are in dire need of water, as supplies have run out in some places or will dry up soon in others. The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality says 29 communities across the state could run out of water in 90 days, and that many reservoirs in west Texas are at around 25 percent capacity.
In December, the San Antonio Express-News found that fracking was using more water than previously thought. The newspaper reported that in 2012, the industry used around 43,770 acre-feet of water in 3,522 Eagle Ford fracking wells - about the same usage of 153,000 San Antonio households.
"The oil and gas boom is requiring more water than we have," Hugh Fitzsimons, a Dimmit County rancher and a director of the Wintergarden Groundwater Conservation District, told the Express-News. "Period."
A separate study published this week found that the industry does a very poor job recycling fracking water in Texas. Researchers at the University of Texas' Bureau of Economic Geology found that 92 percent of water used in 2011 to frack Barnett Shale in north central Texas was "consumed," and not recycled. Only about five percent of all water used for fracking in that area has been reused or recycled in the "past few years."
Other states do not fare well in the Ceres report, either. In Colorado, 97 percent of wells were in areas strapped for water, as demand for fracking water in the state is expected to double to six billion gallons – twice the annual use of the city of Boulder - by 2015.
In California, 96 percent of new wells were located in areas where competition for water is high. A drought emergency for the entire state - which has traditionally dealt with water-sharing and access problems - was declared last month.
The report found similar high percentages of wells built in other states – such as New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming – where water shortages exist.
"It's a wake-up call," said Prof. James Famiglietti, a hydrologist at the University of California, Irvine, according to the Guardian. "We understand as a country that we need more energy but it is time to have a conversation about what impacts there are, and do our best to try to minimize any damage."
Ajmo malo sporta, pa Olimpijada je!
http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/uvodnik/Igre-oko-igara2.sr.html (http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/uvodnik/Igre-oko-igara2.sr.html)
Бојан Билбија
Игре око игара
"Био сам мали када је, пре тачно 30 година, 8. фебруара 1984, клизачица Санда Дубравчић упалила олимпијску ватру на стадиону Кошево у Сарајеву. Ја сам био мали, али су олимпијске игре биле велике и чиниле нас поносним да пред целим светом покажемо своја достигнућа, гостопримство и лепоту наше земље. Сигуран сам да су и Руси данас с разлогом поносни на спектакуларну зимску олимпијаду у Сочију, али изгледа да увек нешто срећу квари.
Западни медији открили су нову ,,спортску" дисциплину – пљување из даљине по Владимиру Путину, за кога се оправдано сумња да је инспиратор и налогодавац историјског догађаја у Сочију. Откривене су ,,пчеле у меду" и ,,дупли тоалети", као да је реч о светској сензацији, али су покренуте и знатно озбиљније оптужбе.
Тако је велики публицитет дат члану МОК-а Швајцарцу Жан-Франку Касперу, који је устврдио да је ,,украдена" чак трећина од 50 милијарди евра, колико је Русија уложила у игре. Каспер, међутим, није пружио никакве доказе за то, рекавши тек да је ,,корупција свакодневна појава у Русији" и да о томе сви причају у овој земљи. Исто тако, Швајцарцу је засметало и присуство 50.000 полицајаца и других припадника обезбеђења, јер се због тога ,,не може осећати слободно".
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Али, сада управо британски медији предњаче у негативној кампањи према Сочију. Тако Би-Би-Си тврди да су олимпијске игре Путинов ,,омиљени пројекат: да би показао да је Русија велика сила а он велики лидер". Британски јавни сервис описује Сочи речима ,,спирала трошкова и скандала". И забринути су колико је пара потрошено за игре, јер је то наводно откинуто од уста јадних Руса који немају шта да једу. Али, пре бих рекао да њихова ,,забринутост" потиче из зависти што Русија има могућност да уложи 50 милијарди. И при томе имају шта да једу."
Бојан Билбија
објављено: 08.02.2014.
Ima u istom broju Politike još zanimljiviji tekst na sličnu temu, samo prenesen iz Vašington Posta, pa ga ja odatle sada i kopiram:
The U.S. hypocrisy over Russia's anti-gay laws (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/us-hypocrisy-over-russias-anti-gay-laws/2014/01/31/3df0baf0-8548-11e3-9dd4-e7278db80d86_story.html)
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Ian Ayres and William Eskridge are law professors at Yale University. Controversy over a Russian law (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/putin-gays-will-be-safe-at-olympics-if-they-leave-kids-alone/2014/01/17/e6f8c47e-7f7d-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html) that prohibits advocacy of homosexuality threatens to overshadow (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/russia-anti-gay-law-casts-a-shadow-over-sochis-2014-olympics/2013/09/29/3646344c-27a6-11e3-9372-92606241ae9c_story.html) athletic competition at the upcoming Sochi Olympics. Thoughtful world leaders, including President Obama, have criticized Russia for stigmatizing gay identity.
Many of these critics find it hard to believe that in 2014 a modern industrial government would have this kind of medieval language in its statutory code: ●"Materials adopted by a local school board . . . shall . . . comply with state law and state board rules . . . prohibiting instruction . . . in the advocacy of homosexuality."
●"Propaganda of homosexualism among minors (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/11/1082469/-Full-English-text-of-Russia-s-anti-gay-law) is punishable by an administrative fine."
●"No district shall include in its course of study instruction which (http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/15/00716.htm): 1. Promotes a homosexual life-style. 2. Portrays homosexuality as a positive alternative life-style. 3. Suggests that some methods of sex are safe methods of homosexual sex."
●"Instruction relating to sexual education or sexually transmitted diseases should include . . . emphasis, provided in a factual manner and from a public health perspective, that homosexuality is not a lifestyle acceptable to the general public (http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/HS/2/H/163/163.002) and that homosexual conduct is a criminal offense."
Amid the rush to condemn Russia's legislation (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/11/1082469/-Full-English-text-of-Russia-s-anti-gay-law), however, it is useful to recognize that only the second quoted provision comes from the Russian statute.
The other three come from statutes in the United States. It is Utah that prohibits "the advocacy of homosexuality." Arizona prohibits portrayals of homosexuality as a "positive alternative life-style" and has legislatively determined that it is inappropriate to even suggest to children that there are "safe methods of homosexual sex." Alabama (http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/alcode/16/40A/16-40A-2) and Texas mandate that sex-education classes emphasize that homosexuality is "not a lifestyle acceptable to the general public." Moreover, the Alabama and Texas statutes mandate that children be taught that "homosexual conduct is a criminal offense" even though criminalizing private, consensual homosexual conduct has been unconstitutional since 2003 (http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/lawrencevtexas.html).
Eight U.S. states, and several cities and counties, have some version of what we call "no promo homo" provisions (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdigitalcommons.law.yale.edu%2Fcgi%2Fviewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D4791%26context%3Dfss_papers&ei=ce3jUt7PNumosQSOiICoCw&usg=AFQjCNEwyHvH_3HrpFLhCdvqrSNFmyeqpw&sig2=4qYss4Imde8ZzkmPCZiOjg&bvm=bv.59930103,d.cWc). Before the United States condemns the Russian statute's infringement of free speech and academic freedom, it should recognize that our own republican forms of government have repeatedly given rise to analogous restrictions.
It is no coincidence that these examples focus on what must and must not be said to children (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CDgQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdigitalcommons.wcl.american.edu%2Fcgi%2Fviewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1166%26context%3Dtma&ei=q-njUvfkNs_JsQTAw4DIAg&usg=AFQjCNE4ZEMsxfV6yY8nMv7SU-TcHXiGdA&sig2=XnxPK1nkY4Yuq0fjaVWhUg&bvm=bv.59930103,d.cWc). An explanatory note accompanying the 2013 Russian legislation makes clear that the statute seeks to protect children "from the factors that negatively affect their physical, intellectual, mental, spiritual, and moral development." Proponents of the U.S. statutes have offered similar justification. And, like Russian President Vladimir Putin this month, the U.S. laws warn gay people and sympathizers to "leave kids alone, please (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/putin-gays-will-be-safe-at-olympics-if-they-leave-kids-alone/2014/01/17/e6f8c47e-7f7d-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html)."The underlying ideology of these statutes is the same: Everybody should be heterosexual, and homosexuality is per se bad. This ideology has never rested on any kind of evidence that homosexuality is a bad "choice" that the state ought to discourage. The ideology is a prejudice-laden legacy of a fading era. (In fact, the strategy is daffy: Even if homosexuality were a bad lifestyle choice, state laws are not an effective way to head off such a choice.)
Putin has assured the International Olympic Committee that the law is merely symbolic. But in the United States, officially sanctioned anti-gay prejudice has contributed to classroom bullying (http://digitalcommons.wcl.american.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1166&context=tma) and to the high level of suicides among gay teens.
The actor and playwright Harvey Fierstein (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/opinion/russias-anti-gay-crackdown.html) has called on the United States to boycott the Sochi Games (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harvey-fierstein/let-the-witch-hunt-begin_b_3896112.html) because Russia prohibits "propaganda of homosexuality." But recall that in 2002 the United States proudly, and without comment, sent its Olympic athletes to a state — Utah — that prohibits the "advocacy of homosexuality." Maybe Obama ought to send Olympic delegates Billie Jean King and Brian Boitano to Alabama and Texas.
We offer that suggestion somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but there is an important lesson here. Sometimes the moral failings of others can help us see moral failings in ourselves. It was revulsion toward Nazi Germany's eugenics policy that, in part, caused U.S. legislatures and courts to renounce state sterilization programs. Opposition to South African apartheid and the Soviet Union's totalitarian regime generated greater national pressure for the Eisenhower administration and the Warren court to renounce apartheid in the American South.
Putin's inability to justify this law puts a spotlight on the inability of Utah, Texas, Arizona and other states to justify their gay-stigmatizing statutes. They should be repealed or challenged in court. Just as judges led the way against compulsory sterilization and racial-segregation laws, so they should subject anti-gay laws to critical scrutiny.
As things stand, one could imagine Putin responding to U.S. criticism by saying: "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye."
Primetite bodljikavu žicu.
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Gebels je bio mala beba.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/21/noam-chomsky-how-to-ruin-an-economy-in-three-simple-steps/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/21/noam-chomsky-how-to-ruin-an-economy-in-three-simple-steps/)
Američki studenti i diplomci duguju više od jednog trilijuna dolara, što je oko četiri puta više od onoga što su dugovali pre desetak godina.
Student Loans Are Ruining Your Life. Now They're Ruining the Economy Too (http://business.time.com/2014/02/26/student-loans-are-ruining-your-life-now-theyre-ruining-the-economy-too/)
QuoteChris Rong did everything right. A 23-year-old dentistry student in New York City, Rong excelled at one of the country's top high schools (http://topics.time.com/schools/), breezed through college and is now studying dentistry at one of the best dental schools in the nation.
But it may be a long time before he sees any rewards. He's moved back home with his parents in Bayside, Queens — an hour-and-a-half commute each way to class at New York University's College of Dentistry — and by the time he graduates in 2016, he'll face $400,000 in student loans. "If the money weren't a problem I would live on my own," says Rong. "My debt is hanging over my mind. I'm taking that all on myself."
Rong isn't alone. Across the U.S., students are taking on increasingly large amounts of debt to pay for heftier education tuitions. Figures released last week by the Federal Reserve (http://topics.time.com/federal-reserve/) of New York show that aggregate student loans nationwide have continued to rise. At the end of 2003, American students and graduates owed just $253 billion in aggregate debt; by the end of 2013, American students' debt had ballooned to a total of $1.08 trillion, an increase of over 300%. In the past year alone, aggregate student debt (http://topics.time.com/student-debt/) grew 10%. By comparison, overall debt grew just 43% in the past decade and 1.6% over the past year.
According to a December study by the Institute for College Access & Success, 7 out of 10 students in the class of 2012 graduated with student loans, and the average amount of debt among students who owed was $29,400. There's no clear end in sight. "The total amount of student debt is growing basically at a constant rate," Wilbert van der Klaauw, an economist with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York tells TIME. "The inflow is much higher than the outflow, which is likely to continue in the future as reliance on student loans for college is expected to remain high."
Debt is painful for many students, and an increasing number of graduates are unable to pay back their loans on time. Delinquencies on student loans have risen dramatically over the past decade: 11.5% of graduates were at least 90 days late on paying back their loans at the end of 2013, compared with 6.2% delinquencies on student loans in 2003. Moreover, the Fed's figures on delinquencies hide more stark data: nearly half of all students with debt aren't currently in repayment thanks to deferments and forbearances and the fact that students are not expected to pay while they're in school, according to van der Klaauw. What that means is that for the graduates who are actually expected to pay their loans now, the delinquency rate is roughly double the 11.5% figure.
Why are student debts and delinquencies continuing to rise? One answer is that the cost of higher educations is increasing. Between the 2000–01 academic year and the 2010–11 academic year, the annual cost of a degree at public and private two- and four-year institutions rose 70%, from an average of $10,820 to $18,497, according to data provided by the federal government's Institute of Education Sciences. Families' incomes aren't rising at the same rate, so students are forced to take out more loans.
On the plus side, more students than ever before are attending college, which is a certainly a good thing, as van der Klaauw points out, even if it is a contributing factor to overall debt increasing. A degree is usually worth the cost of college, even if the price tag is increasingly tough to bear. "It is always important to keep in mind that the average returns to a college degree remain high," van der Klaauw says.
But a more pernicious explanation of rising debts is that outstanding student loans tend to linger for years, as interest rates accumulate debt and students decide to pay off other loans first. Student debt piles on because it takes years to pay off loans, and many can't afford to pay back such hefty loans until later in their careers. For example, some dentistry-school graduates intentionally choose to default on their student loans in order to pay the staggeringly high costs of opening their own dental practice, Rong says.
For Rong, avoiding default on his $400,000 student loans may involve some clever thinking once he graduates. Rong says he's entertained the idea of joining the military, or moving to a state with no income tax, like Texas, so he can pay off his debts more quickly. "I was just going to stay in New York after graduating, but now I realize there's so much on my plate," he says. "When you take out loans, you're taking years off of what you want to do and where you really want to be."
Students across the country are trapped by their debts and often unable to take advantage of the freedom that a college degree should theoretically afford them. Julia Handel is the marketing manager for celebrity New York chef David Burke. The 2012 Ithaca College graduate is making over $40,000 a year, which is better than many of her friends. But she had $75,000 in loans, and it'll take her at least 15 years to pay off her debts. For now, Handel is officially on her parents' lease but crashing with her boyfriend, pinching pennies and paying back $700 every month. She may have to give up her dream of going to culinary school, and at this point, she can definitely cross off the idea of renting her own apartment.
By the time Handel pays off her loans, she may be nearly 40. "Whenever I do anything, loans are always in the back of my mind," she says. "It controls what I do every day and what I spend my money on."
Student debt doesn't just weigh heavily on graduates. Evidence is growing that student loans may be dragging down the overall economy, not just individuals. Think about it this way: if students have significant debt, it means they're less likely to spend money on other goods and services, and it also means they're less likely to take out a mortgage on a house. Consumer purchasing is the primary driver of the U.S. economy, and mortgages and auto loans play a huge role as well. There aren't any comprehensive, hard numbers yet on how much of a drag student debt may be on the economy, but "the associations definitely suggest that growing student debt is a drag on consumption," says van der Klaauw. "This is still something we're discussing. There are a range of views on this. My personal view is that the increasing reliance on student loans for financing college education is going to be a drag on consumption for some time."
Knowing the kind of debt he'll face once he graduates, Rong says he rarely goes to happy hours, and Handel says she's much less likely to get regular haircuts, schedule prompt doctors' appointments, or buy the small things that add up — and, in aggregate, eventually prop up the economy and drive GDP growth. "It's the little things," she says. "Putting off a haircut for a long time, getting more makeup, prescriptions, or doctors appointments, the things that I don't even think cost money but end up adding up a lot."
It's also become harder and harder to qualify for a mortgage if you have student loans, says Andrew Haughwout, another economist with the New York Federal Reserve. Banks tightened their underwriting standards after the recession and are now much less willing to grant house and auto loans at low-interest rates, particularly for graduates with more debt than ever before. That's slowing down the housing recovery and the construction markets.
In 2005, before the Great Recession, having student loans was a good indicator that a graduate also had a mortgage. Student loans usually indicated a higher level of education, a higher salary, and better credit-worthiness. Better-educated, higher-earning people were more likely to have the capital and the wherewithal to take out a mortgage; but now that dynamic has changed. Bigger debts mean college graduates are less likely to take out mortgages than they used to be, dampening economic growth. "Now that's kind of gone away, that relationship," Haughwout says. "Knowing that someone has student debt doesn't tell you very much at all about whether they're going to have a mortgage in spite of the fact that it probably still signals higher level of education."
Is college still worth it? Yes, without a doubt. But you're going to need a lot of patience and a lot of luck, class of 2014.
Svi će jednog dana biti dužnički robovi.
Mislim da ovaj tekst sugeriše da već jesu.
A sad - preokret?
Obamacare Just Made Americans Richer Without Anyone Noticing (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/04/obamacare-january-bea_n_4892267.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592)
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Glenn Beck once said Obamacare would mean (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114991/obamacare-quotes-12-craziest-things-ever-said-about-it) "the end of prosperity in America forever." But so far, it turns out President Obama's 2010 health law is actually putting money in Americans' wallets.
To be exact, President Obama's 2010 health law was responsible for about three-quarters of a surprising January rise in U.S. consumer spending and American income growth, according to calculations by the Wall Street Journal. (http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/03/03/obamacare-effects-account-for-most-of-income-spending-increases/)
While not exceptional, the gains were significant: a 0.4 percent rise in consumer spending ($45.2 billion) and a 0.3 percent rise in personal incomes (up $43.9 billion), according to new figures released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis (http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/pi/2014/pdf/pi0114.pdf). The growth came in spite of the expiration of unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed and all that horrible winter weather.
So what exactly did the Obamacare rollout do to cause such a rise? For one, it expanded the Medicaid program, a critical and highly controversial aspect of the law, by adding up to a $19 billion in benefits in January. On top of that, health care enrollees additionally received another near $15 billion in the form of tax credits as a result of the rollout, according to the BEA (http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/pi/pinewsrelease.htm).
Together the two changes have freed up many Americans to spend money that would have gone towards health care premiums on goods and services instead.
The benefits of the Obamacare rollout thus far also appear to throw cold water on the idea that the law will hamper the economy -- especially when considering last January. Back then, both consumer spending and personal incomes had their worst month in years and fell by several percentage points (http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/pi/2014/pdf/pi0114_hist.pdf) after the battle in Congress over the so-called "fiscal cliff" ended with payroll taxes (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/01/higher-taxes-in-2013-even_n_2392693.html) shooting up across the board.
Overall, that tax hike resulted in an $700 per worker tax increase on average, according to the Tax Policy Center (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2013/02/payroll-tax-increase-weighs-on-consumer-spending/). Who's killing the economy again?
Biglouova se sigurno prevrće u svom, hm, krevetu:
Senate panel says torture didn't help U.S. in hunt for Osama bin Laden: AP (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-panel-says-torture-didnt-help-us-in-hunt-for-osama-bin-laden-ap/)
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WASHINGTON -- A hotly disputed Senate report on torture concludes that waterboarding and other harsh interrogation methods provided no key evidence in the hunt for Osama bin Laden (http://www.cbsnews.com/feature/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden/), according to congressional aides and outside experts familiar with the investigation.
The CIA still disputes that conclusion.
From the moment of bin Laden's death almost three years ago in what was America's biggest counterterrorism success, former Bush administration and some senior CIA officials have cited the evidence trail leading to the al-Qaeda mastermind's compound in Pakistan as vindicating the "enhanced interrogation techniques" they authorized after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
But Democratic and some Republican senators have disputed that account. They described simulated drownings, sleep deprivation and other such practices as cruel and ineffective. With the release edging closer for the Senate Intelligence Committee's report on interrogations, renditions and detentions, they hope to make a persuasive case.
The report, congressional aides and outside experts said, examines the treatment of several high-level terror detainees and the information they provided on bin Laden. The aides and people briefed on the report spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the confidential document.
The most high-profile detainee linked to the bin Laden investigation was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, whom the CIA waterboarded 183 times. Mohammed, intelligence officials have noted, confirmed after his 2003 capture that he knew an important al-Qaeda courier with the nom de guerre Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti.
But the report concludes that such information wasn't critical, according to the aides. Mohammed only discussed al-Kuwaiti months after being waterboarded, while he was under standard interrogation, they said. And Mohammed neither acknowledged al-Kuwaiti's significance nor provided interrogators with the courier's real name.
The debate over how investigators put the pieces together is significant because years later, the courier led U.S. intelligence to the sleepy Pakistani military town of Abbottabad. There, Navy SEALs killed bin Laden in a secret mission.
The CIA also has pointed to the value of information provided by senior al-Qaeda operative Abu Faraj al-Libi, who was captured in 2005 and held at a secret prison.
U.S. officials have described how al-Libi made up a name for a trusted courier and denied knowing al-Kuwaiti. Al-Libi, they said, was so adamant and unbelievable in his denial that the CIA took it as confirmation he and Mohammed were protecting the courier.
But the report concludes evidence gathered from al-Libi wasn't significant either, the aides said.
Essentially, they argued, Mohammed, al-Libi and others subjected to harsh treatment confirmed only what investigators already knew about the courier. And when they denied the courier's significance or provided misleading information, investigators would only have considered that significant if they already presumed the courier's importance.
The aides did not address information provided by yet another al-Qaeda operative, Hassan Ghul, captured in Iraq in 2004. Intelligence officials have described Ghul as the true linchpin of the bin Laden investigation after he identified al-Kuwaiti as a critical courier.
In a 2012 news release, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., acknowledged an unidentified "third detainee" had provided relevant information on the courier. But they said he did so the day before he was subjected to harsh CIA interrogation. "This information will be detailed in the Intelligence committee's report," the senators said at the time.
In any case, it still took the CIA years to learn al-Kuwaiti's real identity: Sheikh Abu Ahmed, a Pakistani man born in Kuwait. How the U.S. learned of Ahmed's name is still unclear.
Without providing full details, aides said the Senate report illustrates the importance of the National Security Agency's efforts overseas (http://www.cbsnews.com/feature/nsa-surveillance-exposed/). Intelligence officials have previously described how in the years, when the CIA couldn't find where bin Laden's courier was, NSA eavesdroppers came up with nothing until 2010 - when Ahmed had a telephone conversation with someone monitored by U.S. intelligence.
At that point, U.S. intelligence was able to follow Ahmed to bin Laden's hideout.
Feinstein and other senators have spoken only vaguely of the contents of the classified review.
But they have made references to the divergence between their understanding of how the bin Laden operation came together and assertions of former CIA and Bush administration officials who have defended harsh interrogations.
Responding to former CIA deputy director Jose Rodriguez's argument that Mohammed and al-Libi provided the "lead information" on the bin Laden operation, Feinstein and Levin said, "The original lead information had no connection to CIA detainees."
They rejected former CIA Director Michael Hayden's claim that evidence on the couriers began with interrogations at black sites and Attorney General Michael Mukasey's declaration that intelligence leading to bin Laden began with Mohammed.
The facts, they said, show that the CIA learned of the courier, his true name and location "through means unrelated to the CIA detention and interrogation program." They have cited a "wide variety of intelligence sources and methods."
Terror suspects who were waterboarded "provided no new information about the courier" and offered no indication of where bin Laden was hiding, the senators said.
Feinstein will push to release a summary of the intelligence committee's review later this week, starting a declassification process that could take several months before any documents are made public.
Senate investigators and CIA officials already are locked in a simmering dispute (http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/sen-feinstein-cia-hacked-congressional-computers/) over competing claims of wrongdoing in the congressional investigation. Feinstein accuses the agency of improperly monitoring the computer use of Senate staffers and deleting files, undermining the Constitution's separation of powers. The CIA says the intelligence panel illegally accessed certain documents. The Justice Department is reviewing criminal complaints against both sides.
Aides said Levin and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who himself was tortured as a prisoner war in Vietnam more than four decades ago, are among those pushing hard to ensure the investigation's findings related to the bin Laden pursuit and CIA interrogations are made public.
They and Feinstein were among Congress' critics of how the hunt was portrayed in the film "Zero Dark Thirty," which they said was fictional.
AP
Kako CIA muči ljude pri ispitivanju:
CIA misled on interrogation program, Senate report says (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-misled-on-interrogation-program-senate-report-says/2014/03/31/eb75a82a-b8dd-11e3-96ae-f2c36d2b1245_story.html)
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A report by the Senate Intelligence Committee concludes that the CIA misled the government and the public about aspects of its brutal interrogation program for years — concealing details about the severity of its methods, overstating the significance of plots and prisoners, and taking credit for critical pieces of intelligence that detainees had in fact surrendered before they were subjected to harsh techniques.
The report, built around detailed chronologies of dozens of CIA detainees, documents a long-standing pattern of unsubstantiated claims as agency officials sought permission to use — and later tried to defend — excruciating interrogation methods that yielded little, if any, significant intelligence, according to U.S. officials who have reviewed the document.
"The CIA described [its program] repeatedly both to the Department of Justice and eventually to Congress as getting unique, otherwise unobtainable intelligence that helped disrupt terrorist plots and save thousands of lives," said one U.S. official briefed on the report. "Was that actually true? The answer is no."
Current and former U.S. officials who described the report spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue and because the document remains classified. The 6,300-page report includes what officials described as damning new disclosures about a sprawling network of secret detention facilities, or "black sites," that was dismantled by President Obama in 2009.
Classified files reviewed by committee investigators reveal internal divisions over the interrogation program, officials said, including one case in which CIA employees left the agency's secret prison in Thailand after becoming disturbed by the brutal measures being employed there. The report also cites cases in which officials at CIA headquarters demanded the continued use of harsh interrogation techniques even after analysts were convinced that prisoners had no more information to give.
The report describes previously undisclosed cases of abuse, including the alleged repeated dunking of a terrorism suspect in tanks of ice water at a detention site in Afghanistan — a method that bore similarities to waterboarding but never appeared on any Justice Department-
approved list of techniques.
U.S. officials said the committee refrained from assigning motives to CIA officials whose actions or statements were scrutinized. The report also does not recommend new administrative punishment or further criminal inquiry into a program that the Justice Department has investigated repeatedly. Still, the document is almost certain to reignite an unresolved public debate over a period that many regard as the most controversial in CIA history.
A spokesman for the CIA said the agency had not yet seen a final version of the report and was, therefore, unable to comment.
Current and former agency officials, however, have privately described the study as marred by factual errors and misguided conclusions. Last month, in an indication of the level of tension between the CIA and the committee, each side accused the other of possible criminal violations (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/public-feud-between-cia-senate-panel-follows-years-of-tension-over-interrogation-report/2014/03/12/f0633d1c-aa1d-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html) in accessing each other's computer systems during the course of the probe.
The Senate Intelligence Committee is expected to vote Thursday to send an executive summary of the report to Obama for declassification. U.S. officials said it could be months before that section, which contains roughly 20 conclusions and spans about 400 pages, is released to the public.
The report's release also could resurrect a long-standing feud between the CIA and the FBI, where many officials were dismayed by the agency's use of methods that Obama and others later labeled torture.
CIA veterans have expressed concern that the report reflects FBI biases. One of its principal authors is a former FBI analyst, and the panel relied in part on bureau documents as well as notes from former FBI agent Ali Soufan. Soufan was the first to interrogate Zayn al-Abidin Muhammed Hussein, the suspected al-Qaeda operative better known as Abu Zubaida, after his capture in Pakistan in 2002 and has condemned the CIA for waterboarding a prisoner he considered cooperative.
The Senate report is by far the most comprehensive account to date of a highly classified program that was established within months of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, a time of widespread concern that an additional wave of terrorist plots had already been set in motion.
'Damaging' misstatements
Several officials who have read the document said some of its most troubling sections deal not with detainee abuse but with discrepancies between the statements of senior CIA officials in Washington and the details revealed in the written communications of lower-level employees directly involved.
Officials said millions of records make clear that the CIA's ability to obtain the most valuable intelligence against al-Qaeda — including tips that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden in 2011 — had little, if anything, to do with "enhanced interrogation techniques."
The report is divided into three volumes — one that traces the chronology of interrogation operations, another that assesses intelligence officials' claims and a third that contains case studies on virtually every prisoner held in CIA custody since the program began in 2001. Officials said the report was stripped of certain details, including the locations of CIA prisons and the names of agency employees who did not hold supervisor-level positions.
One official said that almost all of the critical threat-related information from Abu Zubaida was obtained during the period when he was questioned by Soufan at a hospital in Pakistan, well before he was interrogated by the CIA and waterboarded 83 times.
Information obtained by Soufan, however, was passed up through the ranks of the U.S. intelligence community, the Justice Department and Congress as though it were part of what CIA interrogators had obtained, according to the committee report.
"The CIA conflated what was gotten when, which led them to misrepresent the effectiveness of the program," said a second U.S. official who has reviewed the report. The official described the persistence of such misstatements as among "the most damaging" of the committee's conclusions.
Detainees' credentials also were exaggerated, officials said. Agency officials described Abu Zubaida as a senior al-Qaeda operative — and, therefore, someone who warranted coercive techniques — although experts later determined that he was essentially a facilitator who helped guide recruits to al-Qaeda training camps.
The CIA also oversold the role of Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri in the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen, which killed 17 U.S. sailors. CIA officials claimed he was the "mastermind." (http://www.defense.gov/pdf/detaineebiographies1.pdf)
The committee described a similar sequence in the interrogation of Hassan Ghul, an al-Qaeda operative who provided a critical lead in the search for bin Laden (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/documents-reveal-nsas-extensive-involvement-in-targeted-killing-program/2013/10/16/29775278-3674-11e3-8a0e-4e2cf80831fc_story.html): the fact that the al-Qaeda leader's most trusted courier used the moniker "al-Kuwaiti."
But Ghul disclosed that detail while being interrogated by Kurdish authorities in northern Iraq who posed questions scripted by CIA analysts. The information from that period was subsequently conflated with lesser intelligence gathered from Ghul at a secret CIA prison in Romania, officials said. Ghul was later turned over to authorities in Pakistan, where he was subsequently released. He was killed by a CIA drone strike in 2012.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-
Calif.), chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, has previously indicated that harsh CIA interrogation measures were of little value in the bin Laden hunt.
"The CIA detainee who provided the most significant information about the courier provided the information prior to being subjected to coercive interrogation techniques," Feinstein said in a 2013 statement, responding in part to scenes in the movie "Zero Dark Thirty" that depict a detainee's slip under duress as a breakthrough moment.
Harsh detainee treatment
If declassified, the report could reveal new information on the treatment of a high-value detainee named Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, the nephew of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks. Pakistan captured Ali, known more commonly as Ammar al-Baluchi, on April, 30, 2003, in Karachi and turned him over to the CIA about a week later. He was taken to a CIA black site called "Salt Pit" near Kabul.
At the secret prison, Baluchi endured a regime that included being dunked in a tub filled with ice water. CIA interrogators forcibly kept his head under the water while he struggled to breathe and beat him repeatedly, hitting him with a truncheon-like object and smashing his head against a wall, officials said.
As with Abu Zubaida and even Nashiri, officials said, CIA interrogators continued the harsh treatment even after it appeared that Baluchi was cooperating. On Sept. 22, 2003, he was flown from Kabul to a CIA black site in Romania. In 2006, he was taken to the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. His attorneys contend that he suffered head trauma while in CIA custody.
Last year, the Senate Intelligence Committee asked Baluchi's attorneys for information about his medical condition, but military prosecutors opposed the request. A U.S. official said the request was not based solely on the committee's investigation of the CIA program.
Two other terrorism suspects, from Libya — Mohammed al-Shoroeiya and Khalid al-Sharif (http://www.hrw.org/news/2012/09/05/us-torture-and-rendition-gaddafi-s-libya) — endured similar treatment at Salt Pit, according to Human Rights Watch. One of the men said CIA interrogators "would pour buckets of very cold water over his nose and mouth to the point that he felt he would suffocate. Icy cold water was also poured over his body. He said it happened over and over again," the report says. CIA doctors monitored the prisoners' body temperatures so they wouldn't suffer hypothermia.
The CIA denies waterboarding them and says it used the technique on only three prisoners.
The two men were held at Salt Pit at the same time as Baluchi, according to former U.S. intelligence officials.
Officials said a former CIA interrogator named Charlie Wise was forced to retire in 2003 after being suspected of abusing Abu Zubaida using a broomstick as a ballast while he was forced to kneel in a stress position. Wise was also implicated in the abuse at Salt Pit. He died of a heart attack shortly after retiring from the CIA, former U.S. intelligence officials said.
Ko o čemu, Amerikanci o tome da ih NSA prisluškuje. Ni neautorizovani ratovi na drugim stranama sveta, ni ubijanje ljudi dronovima bez suda i presude, ni tajni zatvori u kojima se ljudi muče, ni Gvantanamo nisu toliko potresli američku javnost koliko pomisao da troslovna agencija ima pristup metapodacima pružalaca komunikacionih usluga. Tako da su se setili da bi Obama to mogao da zaustavi da hoće, bez kongresa, bez baktanja sa ičijim mišljenjem, jednostavno potpisujući izvršno naređenje predsednika. Al neće, očigledno.
If President Obama wanted the NSA to quit storing phone metadata, he'd act now (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/if-president-obama-wanted-the-nsa-to-quit-storing-phone-metadata-hed-act-now/)
QuotePresident Barack Obama says he wants Congress to adopt legislation that would end the National Security Agency's bulk collection of telephone metadata, a surveillance initiative exposed by whistleblower Edward Snowden. As it currently operates, the NSA's collection program gathers and stores the metadata of every call made to and from the United States.
President Obama's plan, proposed by a presidential panel he commissioned, would prevent the government from tapping into the trillions of records for political or other purposes. Under the plan, the NSA would be required to get authorization from a secret court before demanding that telecoms hand over calling metadata of specified terror targets and their associated contacts.
"I have decided that the best path forward is that the government should not collect or hold this data in bulk," Obama said (http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/25/opinion/bergen-nsa-obama-plan/index.html). "Instead, the data should remain at the telephone companies for the length of time it currently does today."
Rights groups are applauding the move. But they say it's virtually a meaningless gesture in its current form. As chief executive, Obama has the power to reform the NSA on his own with the stroke of a pen. By not putting this initiative into an executive order, he punted to Congress on an issue that affects the civil liberties of most anybody who picks up a phone. Every day Congress waits on the issue is another day Americans' calling records are being collected by the government without suspicion that any crime was committed.
"He does not need congressional approval for this," said Mark Jaycox, an Electronic Frontier Foundation legislative analyst.
Currently, the government contends it doesn't peek into the data unless it has "reasonable articulable suspicion" against a terror target. But until Congress acts, Obama's proposal (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/27/fact-sheet-administration-s-proposal-ending-section-215-bulk-telephony-m) leaves the phone metadata in the hands of the nation's spooks without any laws against how the database may be accessed. And who knows what other types of metadata (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/04/what-besides-phone-records-does-the-nsa-bulk-collect/) are now treated similarly.
That means Americans have to accept, at face value, a promise from Uncle Sam that the government won't abuse a database that includes the phone numbers of all calls, the international mobile subscriber identity number of mobile callers, the calling card numbers used in calls, and the time and duration of those calls to and from the United States.
Ultimately, congressional action will be necessary even if the president signs an executive order on the issue. Future presidents are not bound by former presidential decrees, which means the 44th president does not have to adhere to any Obama promises of ethical and limited metadata use.
"There is real value to get Congress to be the one to write this into stone," said Michelle Richardson, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. "It's a cop-out that he isn't taking executive action now."
The president has taken some actions to rein in the bulk telephone metadata program. He ordered the nation's spies to get approval from the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to search the metadata database under the "reasonable articulable standard" that a target is associated with terrorism. (A probable-cause standard continues to be lacking, however.) Obama also dramatically reduced the number of associated calling records connected to the original target that the NSA may analyze—from three hops to two.
The president won't scrap the phone metadata surveillance altogether; it's unrealistic in today's climate of paranoia. But Obama could turn his words into immediate reality with a stroke of his pen. An executive order would promptly end the suspicionless collection of telephone metadata, and it would finally put a treasure trove of data—detailing intimate factors about our everyday lives (http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/surprise-surprise-my-online-metadata-actually-reveals-where-ive-been/)—at arms' length.
Amerika voli da podučava druge demokratiji ali evo studije koja pokazuje da je po dovoljnom broju relevantnih parametara moguće zaključiti da same Sjedinjene Američke Države nisu demokratsko društvo, već oligarhija:
https://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20materials/Gilens%20and%20Page/Gilens%20and%20Page%202014-Testing%20Theories%203-7-14.pdf (https://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20materials/Gilens%20and%20Page/Gilens%20and%20Page%202014-Testing%20Theories%203-7-14.pdf)
Ne znam koliko koga zanima trenutna urbanistička i populaciona situacija u San Francisku (a zanimljiva je, kao nešto što bi napisaoWilliam Gibson, sa sve grupama koje protestuju na ulici i gađaju kamenjem Guglove autobuse koji prevoze zaposlene na posao), ali evo izvanredno istraženogi jako dugačkog teksta koji sve to objašnjava:
How Burrowing Owls Lead To Vomiting Anarchists (Or SF's Housing Crisis Explained) (http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/)
http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/05/woman-films-her-own-abortion-to-show-world-how-cool-it-is/ (http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/05/woman-films-her-own-abortion-to-show-world-how-cool-it-is/)
А ево и поменутог видеа, ако кога занима:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxPUKV-WlKw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxPUKV-WlKw)
Ja sam ovde već kačio odlična pisanja C. Covillea o američkom zdravstvu, ali ovaj tekst mu je IZVANREDAN. U sklopu naših širih rasprava o neoliberalizmu i upravljanju esencijalnim službama u društvu, mislim da je ovaj tekst o zdravstvu koje je privatizovano više valjda nego igde u svetu veoma ilustrativan:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-us-medical-billing-way-more-f2340ked-than-you-think/ (http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-us-medical-billing-way-more-f2340ked-than-you-think/)
Evo šta biva kad prosečan Amerikanac prevede tvoj engleski na američki engleski, dakle prvo ide moj post pa njegov "prevod" krv ti jebem :x xrotaeye
http://abraxas365dokumentarci.blogspot.com/2014/05/sta-biva-kad-ti-ga-prosecan-amer-prevede.html (http://abraxas365dokumentarci.blogspot.com/2014/05/sta-biva-kad-ti-ga-prosecan-amer-prevede.html)
Srpski američki je prilično nepodoban za prevođenje kao slovački američki. Tada se osamdesete lako transribuju kao devedeset pete, to je bar jasno. Još nekoliko prevoda prevoda i izjava će dostići zenit.
Još kad bi taj Amerikanac naučio maternji jezik...
Za Zombije imamo plan.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/16/politics/pentagon-zombie-apocalypse/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 (http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/16/politics/pentagon-zombie-apocalypse/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)
http://abraxas365dokumentarci.blogspot.com/2014/05/california-drive-by-gunman-kills-six-in.html (http://abraxas365dokumentarci.blogspot.com/2014/05/california-drive-by-gunman-kills-six-in.html)
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"A gunman has killed six people in drive-by shootings near the Californian city of Santa Barbara, US police say. The shootings took place late on Friday in Isla Vista near the University of California-Santa Barbara campus. The suspected gunman was found dead in his car with a bullet wound. It is unclear whether it was self-inflicted. Police are looking into a possible link with a Youtube video in which a young man complains of repeated rejection by women and threatens to take revenge. Seven other people are in hospital, and being treated for bullet wounds. The shootings occurred at several sites in the town of Isla Vista, and there were nine crime scenes, police said."
ups, zajebasmo se!
White House Mistakenly Outs CIA Afghanistan Chief
http://www.mediaite.com/online/white-house-mistakenly-outs-cia-afghanistan-chief/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/white-house-mistakenly-outs-cia-afghanistan-chief/)
Quote from: Son of Man on 24-05-2014, 17:24:51
http://abraxas365dokumentarci.blogspot.com/2014/05/california-drive-by-gunman-kills-six-in.html (http://abraxas365dokumentarci.blogspot.com/2014/05/california-drive-by-gunman-kills-six-in.html)
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"A gunman has killed six people in drive-by shootings near the Californian city of Santa Barbara, US police say. The shootings took place late on Friday in Isla Vista near the University of California-Santa Barbara campus. The suspected gunman was found dead in his car with a bullet wound. It is unclear whether it was self-inflicted. Police are looking into a possible link with a Youtube video in which a young man complains of repeated rejection by women and threatens to take revenge. Seven other people are in hospital, and being treated for bullet wounds. The shootings occurred at several sites in the town of Isla Vista, and there were nine crime scenes, police said."
Ne znam što se žalio, uopšte nije ružan...možda nije bio dovoljni uporan. Liči na Elajdžu Vuda.
http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/05/3-months-since-legalizing-marijuana-heres-colorado-looks-like.html (http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/05/3-months-since-legalizing-marijuana-heres-colorado-looks-like.html)
Why Brainteasers Don't Belong in Job Interviews (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/06/why-brainteasers-dont-belong-in-job-interviews.html)
Quote
Imagine that you are the captain of a pirate ship. You've captured some booty, and you need to divide it among your crew. But first the crew will vote on your plan. If you have the support of fewer than half of them, you will die. How do you propose to divide the gold, so that you still have some for yourself—but live to tell the tale?
There is a correct answer (http://www.businessinsider.com/answers-to-google-interview-questions-2011-11?op=1): divide it among the top fifty-one per cent of the crew. If you knew that, you've passed what used to be one of Google's infamous, mind-scrambling job-interview questions (http://www.impactinterview.com/2009/10/140-google-interview-questions/), which would have placed you one step closer to a career at the technology giant. (Google reportedly banned the practice (http://www.technologywoman.com/2010/05/17/debunking-the-google-interview-myth/) a couple of years ago.) In a surprising June 19th interview (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/business/in-head-hunting-big-data-may-not-be-such-a-big-deal.html?pagewanted=all) with the New York Times, Laszlo Bock, Google's senior V.P. of "people operations," explained why: the company discovered these brainteasers are "a complete waste of time," and "don't predict anything" when it comes to job success. Google shouldn't be shocked. A psychologist would have known at the outset that tests of this nature hardly ever work, and that there are much better predictors of who will get hired and how they will perform.
Researchers have always tried to use psychology for predictive ends: Can what we already know about a person tell us how she will behave in a given situation? The results of these endeavors have been mixed. While there is some evidence (http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.psych.57.102904.190127) for links between certain personality traits and later outcomes, the correlations tend to be limited, and the predictions that can be made are broad at best. For instance, we can tell when a given person will generally succeed at academic pursuits, but not if she'll excel in a particular seminar on ancient hieroglyphics.
The major problem with most attempts to predict a specific outcome, such as interviews, is decontextualization: the attempt takes place in a generalized environment, as opposed to the context in which a behavior or trait naturally occurs. Google's brainteasers measure how good people are at quickly coming up with a clever, plausible-seeming solution to an abstract problem under pressure. But employees don't experience this particular type of pressure on the job. What the interviewee faces, instead, is the objective of a stressful, artificial interview setting: to make an impression that speaks to her qualifications in a limited time, within the narrow parameters set by the interviewer. What's more, the candidate is asked to handle an abstracted "gotcha" situation, where thinking quickly is often more important than thinking well. Instead of determining how someone will perform on relevant tasks, the interviewer measures how the candidate will handle a brainteaser during an interview, and not much more.
Interviews in general pose a particular challenge when it comes to predictive validity—that is, the ability to determine someone's future performance based on limited data. Not only are they relatively brief but also, over the past twenty years, psychologists have repeatedly found (http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=search.displayRecord&UID=2001-01412-004) that few of a candidate's responses matter. What is significant is the personal impression that the interviewer forms within the first minute (and sometimes less) of meeting the prospective hire. In one study, students were recorded as they took part in mock on-campus recruiting interviews that lasted from eight to thirty minutes. The interviewers evaluated them based on eleven factors, such as over-all employability, professional competency, and interpersonal skills. The experimenters then showed the first twenty or so seconds of each interview to untrained observers—the initial meet-and-greet, starting with the interviewee's knock on the door and ending ten seconds after he was seated, before any questions—and asked them to rate the candidates on the same dimensions. What the researchers found was a high correlation between judgments made by the untrained eye in a matter of seconds and those made by trained interviewers after going through the whole process. On nine of the eleven factors, there was a resounding agreement between the two groups.
This phenomenon is broadly known as "thin-slice" judgment (http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/bul/111/2/256/). As early as 1937, Gordon Allport, a pioneer of personality psychology, argued that we constantly form sweeping opinions of others based on incredibly limited information and exposure. Since then, multiple (http://qje.oxfordjournals.org.ezproxy.cul.columbia.edu/content/114/1/37.short) studies (http://pss.sagepub.com.ezproxy.cul.columbia.edu/content/17/7/592.short) have shown the truth of that observation: first impressions are paramount. Once formed, they reliably color the rest of our impression formation. The exact same interview response given by two different candidates, one of whom the interviewer preferred, would be rated differently.
Given the failure of typical interviews (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S009265660700013X) to predict job performance consistently, what should companies do instead? Two things have been shown (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053482209000382) to make the interview process more successful. One is using a highly standardized interview process—for instance, asking each candidate the same questions in the same order. This produces a more objective measure of how each candidate fares, and it can reduce the influence of thin-slice judgment, which can alter the way each interview is conducted.
The other solution is to focus on relevant behavioral measures, both in the past and in the future. The ubiquitous interview question "Describe a situation where you did well on X or failed on Y" is an example of a past behavioral measure; asking a programmer to describe how she would solve a particular programming task would be a future measure. Google and many other tech companies may also ask some candidates to write code on the spot, a task that solves the problem of decontextualization by closely approximating what they would do on the job.
To Google's credit, the company admitted its failure, and moved its interviews in a different direction. Finding the one right candidate in a group is hard, and companies don't have much time to figure out exactly which questions can help them tell similar-seeming candidates apart. Or, to quote from another of the banned Google questions, "You have eight balls of the same size. Seven of them weigh the same, and one of them weighs slightly more. How can you find the ball that is heavier by using a balance and only two weighings?"
Kalifornija uber ales:
Buses with migrant families rerouted amid protest (http://news.yahoo.com/buses-migrant-families-rerouted-amid-protest-004143806.html)
QuoteSAN DIEGO (AP) — Homeland Security buses carrying migrant children and families were rerouted Tuesday to a facility in San Diego after American flag-waving protesters blocked the group from reaching a suburban processing center.
The standoff in Murrieta came after Mayor Alan Long urged residents to complain to elected officials about the plan to transfer the Central American migrants to California to ease overcrowding of facilities along the Texas-Mexico border.
Many protesters held U.S. flags, while others held signs reading "stop illegal immigration," and "illegals out!"
"We can't start taking care of others if we can't take care of our own," protester Nancy Greyson, 60, of Murrieta, told the Desert Sun newspaper.
Many of the immigrants were detained while fleeing violence and extortion from gangs in Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras.
After the buses were blocked, federal authorities rerouted the vehicles to a freeway and then to a customs and border facility in San Diego within view of the Mexico border.
The three buses were trailed by a half-dozen news crews during the two-hour trip. People near the San Diego facility were surprised by the caravan.
Juan Silva, 27, a welder in Chula Vista, said he thought officials were transporting drug traffickers. Then he heard the buses were carrying migrant families.
"I don't think people in that town should be against little kids," he said about the protesters in Murrieta. "We're not talking about rapists. We're talking about human beings. How would they feel if it was their kids?"
After the migrants are processed, Immigration and Customs Enforcement will decide who can be released while awaiting deportation proceedings.
Earlier in the day, a chartered plane landed in San Diego with 136 migrants on board, according to a federal Department of Homeland Security official who was not authorized to be named when speaking on the issue.
It was the first flight planned for California under the federal government's effort to ease the crunch in the Rio Grande Valley and deal with the flood of Central American children and families fleeing to the United States.
The government is also planning to fly migrants to Texas cities and another site in California, and it has already taken some migrants to Arizona.
More than 52,000 unaccompanied children have been detained after crossing the Texas-Mexico border since October in what President Barack Obama has called a humanitarian crisis. Many of the migrants are under the impression that they will receive leniency from U.S. authorities.
Another flight was expected to take 140 migrants to a facility in El Centro, California, on Wednesday, said Lombardo Amaya, president of the El Centro chapter of the Border Patrol union. The Border Patrol would not confirm that arrival date.
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Associated Press writer Amy Taxin in Santa Ana contributed to this report.
Ko kaže da bez rada nema ekonomskog rasta? U zemlji mogućnosti može i to. Ima i o tome da se mladi zapošljavaju ispod svoje stručne spreme, o krpežu od radnog vremena, ali to je samo za radoznale.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/02/opinion/growth-without-jobs.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region®ion=c-column-top-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-top-span-region&_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/02/opinion/growth-without-jobs.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region®ion=c-column-top-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-top-span-region&_r=0)
Dejvid Sajmon, tvorac Homicidea i The Wirea, u otvorenom pismu šefu policije Fergusona:
http://davidsimon.com/the-end-game-for-american-civic-responsibility-pt-iii/ (http://davidsimon.com/the-end-game-for-american-civic-responsibility-pt-iii/)
Aj em gaverner Džeri Braun :lol:
Mislim, kad je Kalifornija spremna da se popiša po sopstvenim zakonima kako bi Elon Mask zaposlio šes i po hiljada građana, šta onda od Vučića & kompanije uopšte da očekujemo?
California may waive environmental rules for Tesla battery factory (http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-tesla-incentives-20140812-story.html)
QuoteThe state would exempt Tesla Motors Inc. from some of its toughest environmental regulations as part of an incentive package being discussed with the automaker to build a massive battery factory in California, a key state senator said.
"It would help them speed the process," Sen. Ted Gaines said after a Friday meeting with Tesla officials at the company's Palo Alto headquarters and assembly line in Fremont, east of San Francisco.
The plan being negotiated in the office of Gov. Jerry Brown could grant the automaker waivers for significant portions of the nearly half-century-old California Environmental Quality Act, Gaines said. The proposal is alarming some environmentalists.
The governor's pitch also includes a number of tax breaks for Tesla that could be worth as much as $500 million, or about 10% of the project's total cost, said Gaines, a Republican representing the Sacramento suburb of Rocklin. He and Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg (D-Sacramento), are the coauthors of a proposed Tesla incentive bill that would put the package of incentives into law.
The Brown administration is hustling to compete with four other states — Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — for what Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk calls his "gigafactory." Musk has described California as a "long shot" for snagging the proposed plant.
Tesla says the plant, which will make batteries for a new, moderately priced model, is expected to cost $5 billion and employ 6,500 workers.
Gaines, who said he was briefed by the governor's economic development experts last week, said the administration and lawmakers are hurrying to complete the package before the legislative session closes at the end of August.
"We are waiting for the finalization of the details," he said. "We know we have to move quickly."
A representative of the governor's economic staff did not respond to requests for comment on the negotiations with Tesla.
Musk has said that a quick environmental review was essential to getting the plant up and running by 2017 to meet growing demand for planned moderately priced Tesla cars.
"Timing for the gigafactory is very important," Tesla spokesman Simon Sproule said Monday. "So all five states in the running for the gigafactory need to demonstrate, among other factors, that they can help us deliver the factory on time."
California's landmark environmental statute, widely known by its acronym CEQA, was signed into law by former Gov. Ronald Reagan. It requires state and local government agencies to review development projects to identify potential threats to the environment and recommend ways to reduce or eliminate any potential damage.
Among the incentives under discussion have been provisions to limit prior environmental review of plans for the California battery plant location — if Tesla chooses to locate here.
"I think that's a possibility," Gaines said.
According to state officials who said they were familiar with discussions but not authorized to speak about them, Tesla also might be allowed to start construction and mitigate any potential damage later. Also being discussed is whether to limit lawsuits that could slow the project.
Environmental activists were critical of any attempt to waive CEQA regulations, especially for such a notably "green" company as Tesla, whose all-electric cars emit no greenhouse gases or other air pollution.
"I think it's a terrible idea," said David Pettit, a lawyer specializing in environmental review laws for the Natural Resources Defense Council. "For one thing, it does indicate that we have two systems of law in California — one for the super rich, and one for the developer doing multifamily housing."
The idea of essentially waiving CEQA is "unacceptable," said Kathryn Phillips, director of the Sierra Club in California. "It sounds like you're taking away environmental review and taking away citizen enforcement ... for a single project."
A suspension of strict pre-construction reviews — if it ends up in the package of incentives — would go far beyond the Legislature's past efforts to boost favored projects by speeding up environmental studies and limiting opponents' abilities to delay projects with time-consuming lawsuits.
In recent years, lawmakers gave such special treatment to developers interested in building pro football stadiums in Irwindale and downtown Los Angeles, as well as a National Basketball Assn. arena under construction for the Sacramento Kings.
Tesla has not made any final announcements about where its battery plant or plants might be.
But last month, the automaker confirmed that it already began site preparation work near Reno for what could be the first of several lithium-ion battery plants.
A u Fergusonu suzavcem i palicama na demonstrante, policajci prete novinarima, stigla i Nacionalna garda.
Gde se sad dede ,,pravo na okupljanje'', ,,pravo na izražavanje volje građana'' i sl, što su tako gorljivo
zastupali u Ukrajini?
Što ja volim pozorište, ali ne u svojoj kući.
Ubijen još jedan Afroamerikanac
IZVOR: RTS
Sent Luis -- Policija u Sent Luisu je ubila dvadesetrogodišnjeg Afroamerikanca. Incident se dogodio na oko šest kilometara od mesta gde se održavaju protesti u Fergusonu.
Ubijeni muškarac je mahao nožem ka policajcima, tvrde svedoci.
"Rekao je da su policajci zahtevali od njega da baci nož. Policajci su pucali u njega kada je odbio to da učini", naveo je jedan svedok.
Svedoci kažu da je ubijeni muškarac govorio ":Pucajte u mene, ubijte me!".
Istražitelji će pogledati snimke incidenta na sigurnosnim kamerama. Osumnjičeni je identifikovan kao dvadesetrogodišnji afroamerikanac.
Pre nekoliko dana je u gradu Fergusonu u istoj državi beli policajac usmrtio crnog tinejdžera Majkla Brauna.
Zbog toga se u gradu ne smiruju demonstracije.
Treba se setiti da je američka sadašnjost naša budućnost u jednoj zabrinjavajućoj meri. Odgledati do kraja jer je skit sa Sarom Silverman izvrstan:
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Predatory Lending (HBO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDylgzybWAw#ws)
Cell Phone Video Emerges That Refutes St. Louis Cops Version of Shooting
By Jay Syrmopoulos on August 20, 2014
St. Louis- On Tuesday, while tensions continued to simmer in Ferguson, just a few miles away 25-year-old Kajieme Powell was gunned down by St. Louis cops.
Officers claimed that they were in fear of their lives as Powell charged at them with a knife. They claim he had the knife in an "overhand grip" and came within three feet of the officers, at which time they opened fire, killing Powell.
The incident stemmed from a call by a Six Star Market owner after Powell allegedly stole two energy drinks, according to KSDK.
Reports from witnesses claim that Powell was acting erratically, pacing back and forth on the street and talking to himself, while carrying a knife.
St. Louis Metro Police Chief Sam Dotson responding to a question of whether the shooting was justified said his officers "have a right to go home at night" going on to say that all officers have a right to defend themselves.
He went on to defend his officers actions saying that they used deadly force due to the suspect with a knife coming within three of four feet of the officers, which would be considered within lethal range.
New cell phone video has emerged that calls into question officer's version of events, and Dotson's defense of his officers, leading up to the shooting.
http://youtu.be/j-P54MZVxMU (http://youtu.be/j-P54MZVxMU)
In the video two cops arrive together, exit the vehicle, and demand Powell drop the knife. Powell begins yelling "shoot me, shoot me, shoot me now," as walks onto a ledge then steps off as if to approach.
Powell, who had his hands at his sides, never came within more than 10-15 feet of the officers before they opened fire killing him.
As the man recording the incident stated,
"They could have tazed that man."
Surely the officers could have utilized non-lethal force in this situation.
It seems that these officers, and Police Chief Dotson, think they are the only ones that "have a right to go home at night."
The police turned a call about two stolen energy drinks into a murder, of course they will say it was justified, so they could go home at night... sadly, Kajieme Powell will never be able to go home again.
It's this us or them mentality that has created the conditions we see in Ferguson and around the country, as the warrior cop has no sense how to diffuse a situation, but rather only how to use force and brutality on those they are sworn to protect and serve.
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cell-phone-video-emerges-refutes-st-louis-cops-version-shooting/#ws8QC7cYDYZh6Zf8.99 (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cell-phone-video-emerges-refutes-st-louis-cops-version-shooting/#ws8QC7cYDYZh6Zf8.99)
Da se ne kaže da samo kod nas narod pljuje po precedniku:
EX-CIA employee admits President Obama is a radical Islamic enemy of America (http://www.examiner.com/article/cia-now-admits-that-president-obama-is-a-radical-islamic-enemy-of-america)
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t's an explosive charge, one that practically accuses the president of treason.
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Today, a former CIA agent bluntly told the (http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/cia-expert-obama-switchedsides-in-war-on-terror/#XOmOEEEe76HLP2MQ.99) newspaper, World Net Daily, that America has switched sides in the war on terror under President Obama. Clare Lopez was willing to say what a few members of Congress have said in private, but declined to say on-the-record.
Clare M. Lopez (http://www.aim.org/benghazi/members-of-the-ccb/clare-lopez-former-cia-officer/) is the Vice President for Research and Analysis at the Center for Security Policy and a Senior Fellow at The Clarion Project, the London Center for Policy Research, and the Canadian Meighen Institute. Since 2013, she has served as a member of the Citizens Commission on Benghazi. Also Vice President of the Intelligence Summit, she formerly was a career operations officer with the Central Intelligence Agency, a professor at the Centre for Counterintelligence and Security Studies, Executive Director of the Iran Policy Committee from 2005-2006, and has served as a consultant, intelligence analyst, and researcher for a variety of defense firms. She was named a Lincoln Fellow at the Claremont Institute in 2011.
Lopez said the global war on terror had been an effort to "stay free of Shariah," or repressive Islamic law, until the Obama administration began siding with such jihadist groups as the Muslim Brotherhood and its affiliates. Lopez believes that the Muslim Brotherhood has thoroughly infiltrated the Obama administration and other branches of the federal government (http://www.examiner.com/government). One of the most outrageous of those appointments is Mohamed Elibiary (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/06/19/HOLD-FOR-GORKA-Who-Is-Mohamed-Elibiary), a senior member of the Department of Homeland Security Advisory Council. According to a report by the Center for Security Policy, Elibiary supports brokering a U.S. partnership with the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group. Two months ago, a firestorm erupted (http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/homeland-securitys-mohammed-elibiary-caliphate-inevitable) online after Elibiary tweeted that a "Caliphate" is inevitable and compared it to the European Union.
Ms. Lopez also believes Obama had essentially (http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/cia-expert-obama-switchedsides-in-war-on-terror/#XOmOEEEe76HLP2MQ.99) the same goals in the Mideast as the late Osama bin Laden: "to remove American power and influence, including military forces, from Islamic lands." The former CIA operative's perspective affects her prescription for what the U.S. should do about the terror army ISIS (http://www.examiner.com/topic/isis), as she called for caution and restraint.
While there has been a sudden chorus of politicians and military experts calling for the immediate elimination of the terrorist army after it beheaded American journalist James Foley last week, Lopez believes the U.S. should have an overall strategy in place before fully re-engaging in the Mideast militarily.Any military action would be further complicated, she told WND, if it were not clear which side the U.S. is on, either in the short term or in the overall war on terror.
Lopez felt it was impossible to understand why the president and some of his top appointees, such as CIA Director John Brennan, who is believed to be a Muslim convert, "consistently seem to apologize for Islam, even in the face of such atrocities as the Foley beheading," adding, they "take pains to assure the world they don't think IS, (or the Islamic State, also called ISIS) or whichever perpetrator it was, has anything to do with Islam. How can they possibly believe that genuinely when everything these jihadis do tracks directly to the literal text of Quran, hadiths and Shariah?"
"In any case, and for whatever motivations, there is no doubt this administration switched sides (http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/cia-expert-obama-switchedsides-in-war-on-terror/#XOmOEEEe76HLP2MQ.99) in what used to be called the Global War on Terror," she said.
I wonder if those who don't want to go 'on the record' will finally speak out.
Suggested by the author This week, Lieutenant Colonel Allen West calls President Obama an Islamist (http://www.examiner.com/article/this-week-lieutenant-colonel-allen-west-calls-president-obama-an-islamist)
Džon Oliver o edukativnom sistemu u SAD, prevashodno o studentskim dugovima za koje smo već ovde pisali da se mere astronomskim ciframa:
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Student Debt (HBO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8pjd1QEA0c#ws)
Cela Pensilvanija traži ubicu u SRPSKOJ UNIFORMI koji je pucao na policajce (http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/496078/Cela-Pensilvanija-trazi-ubicu-u-SRPSKOJ-UNIFORMI-koji-je-pucao-na-policajce)
QuoteCela policija u Pensilvaniji je danima u poteri za Erikom Frejnom (31) koji je ubio pripadnika Nacionalne policije Briona Diksona (38) i ranio Aleksa Daglasa (31). Frejn je opsednut bitkama iz Drugog svetskog rata i istočnoevropskom vojskom, a posebno četničkim uniformama.
Smatra se da je veoma opasan, možda naoružan puškom i kalašnjikovom. Škole u okolini mesta zločina danas ne rade zbog potrage.
Potpukovnik Džordž Bivens saopštio je danas da Frejn "pripada jedinici za rekonstrukciju vojnih događaja", koja je fokusirana na istočnoevropske vojske.
"Obrijao je glavu sa strane, a ostavio dugačku kosu na temenu", dodao je on.
Policija opisuje Frejna kao dobrog strelca i umetnika preživljavanja, koji je kivan na policiju i vlasti.
"Uglavnom se sam obučavao za preživljavanje", rekao je Bivens.
Jedinica za vojnu simulaciju kojoj Frejn pripada "Istočni vuk" ima ulogu čete vojnika istočne Evrope. Frej zvani "Vuk" je ljubav prema srpskoj uniformi pokazao i na fotografijama koje je postavio na svoj Fejsbuk profil, a da voli i srpsku tradiciju dokazao je poziranjem ispred Hrama Svetog Save u Beogradu.
Prema njegovim rečima, Frejn je često menjao posao i nikada se nije duže zadržao na jednom položaju. Pripadao je grupi ljudi koji su simulirali vojnu istoriju i bili opsednuti Istočnom Evropom u vreme hladnog rata.
"Mnogi od tih ljudi bi bili spremni da odu toliko daleko", objašnjava on. "Oni šiju ili nabavljaju uniforme i proučavaju istoriju datog perioda i uporedio bih to gotovo sa rekonstrukcijom vojnih događaja".
On je takođe rekao da je Frejn u proteklih nekoliko godina odlazio u Evropu.
Policija je upozorila stanovništvo da bude oprezno tokom potrage za Frejnom. Biven im je preporučio da zaključaju vrata i ne gase svetla. Više od 150 policajaca učestvuje u potrazi.
Umetnički direktor Džeremaja Hornbejker, koji je poznavao Frejna skoro deset godina, ispričao je za Ej-bi-si njuz da su Frejna često angažovali prilikom snimanja filmova kao stručnjaka za vojsku i oružju. U kratkom filmu iz 2007. godine "Lustig" igrao je nemačkog vojnika.
Cop Killer is preparing to kill again. (Eric Frein) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZd4hRsnZ8#ws)
Šteta što nas je Boris napustio jer bismo sad sigurno bar tri dana polemisali o ovome... A ovako nećemo.
http://youtu.be/_8m8cQI4DgM (http://youtu.be/_8m8cQI4DgM)
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Civil Forfeiture (HBO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kEpZWGgJks#ws)
VRH VRHOVA!
Sve je za neverovati, ali Pandur na 7 minutu je Iznad toga!
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 18-09-2014, 17:05:44
Cela Pensilvanija traži ubicu u SRPSKOJ UNIFORMI koji je pucao na policajce (http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/496078/Cela-Pensilvanija-trazi-ubicu-u-SRPSKOJ-UNIFORMI-koji-je-pucao-na-policajce)
Uvatiše ovoga:
Uhapšen američki "četnik", jedan od najtraženijih begunaca (http://rs.n1info.com/a8199/Svet/Svet/Uhapsen-americki-cetnik-jedan-od-najtrazenijih-begunaca.html)
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Erik Frejn, noćna mora Sjedinjenih Američkih Država, koji se više od šest nedelja vešto krio u Pensilvaniji nakon što je ubio policajca, konačno je uhapšen, javljaju američki mediji.
Frejn koga je FBI stavio na listu deset najtraženijih ljudi u SAD je uhapšen živ, potvrdila je policija. Zvaničnici su potvrdili da su ga uhapsili nakon informacije da se krije u magacinu na aerodromu pored Bak Hila.
"Pozvali su ga da izađe napolje i onda su ga opkolili", rekao je jedan od nadležnih za "Foks njuz" i dodao da nije bilo nikakvog incidenta tokom hapšenja.
Više stotina policajaca tragalo je 48 dana po celoj Pensilvaniji za ovim umišljenim četnikom koji je ubio jednog rendžera, a drugog ranio.
Frejn se vešto skrivao od policije i bio neuhvatljiv, pa su pojedini počeli da ga porede sa filmskim junakom Rambom. Za sobom je navodno ostavljao neobične tragove, među kojima i paklicu sarajevske "Drine" uvezene iz Srbije, kalašnjikov, ručne bombe, kao i pelene...
Policija je morala da pretraži šume Pensilvanije tokom mesečne potrage, a nedavno su postavili i balone sa kamerama kako bi ga lakše locirali.
Pretpostavlja se da Frejn, koji koristi srpsko ime "Vučko", ima neraščišćene račune sa državom, pošto je protiv vlasti redovno pisao još od 2006. godine.
Да, сад прочитах вест и тедох да је окачим. Баш сам синоћ размишљао о њему, како га сад ту блате и провлаче по поганим медијима, а заправо је потпуно онај филмски american outlaw. Пуца на дротове па бежи по неким вукојебинама. Само није страдао у обрачуну са шерифом, јбг.
Држи се, Фрејне!
Posle brütalnog hejta koji je prosut po Obaminom Affordable Care Actu u kome je cilj bio da prethodno zdravstveno neosigurani stanovnici/ građani SAD budu obuhvaćeni nekm vidom osiguranja, posle smejanja loše organizovanom vebsajtu i gličeva u kome su ljudi koji nisu hteli da promene svoj plan osiguranja na kraju morali itd., Njujork Tajms objavljuje rezultate studije u kojoj se gledalo kome je ovaj zakon pomogao. Neiznenađujuće, najviše crnim i hispano stanovnicima, najviše siromanima i možda još više neiznenađujuće, najviše u državama koje su tradicionalno republikanske:
Obama's Health Law: Who Was Helped Most (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/29/upshot/obamacare-who-was-helped-most.html?_r=3&abt=0002&abg=0)
I ponovo na temu studentskih zajmova, jelte, pošto je zakonodavcu (bar nekom) jasno da je ovo kamen oko vrata mnogim ljudima (naći na prošloj strani više detalja o tome), koledži i univerziteti bi uskoro mogli da se suoče sa obavezom da dokažu da isplata studentskog zajma u ratama ne prevazilazi dvadeset posto neke njegove projektovane zarade u odnosu na to čemu ga uče :lol: Obama komunjaro. :lol: :lol:
For-profit programs face 'gainful employment' rule (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/c9fba2978ad4489e9aa73500532a7477/profit-colleges-face-gainful-employment-rule)
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WASHINGTON (AP) — For-profit colleges with graduates unable to pay back their student loans could soon face scrutiny by the federal government.
Schools with career-oriented programs that fail to comply with the new rule announced Thursday by the Obama administration stand to lose access to federal student-aid programs.
To meet these "gainful employment" standards, a program will have to show that the estimated annual loan payment of a typical graduate does not exceed 20 percent of his or her discretionary income or 8 percent of total earnings.
The Education Department estimates that about 1,400 programs serving 840,000 students won't pass. Ninety-nine percent of these programs are offered by for-profit schools, although affected career training programs can come from certificate programs elsewhere in higher education.
Education Secretary Arne Duncan says the department wants to make sure that programs that prey on students don't continue abusive practices.
However, Steve Gunderson, president and CEO of the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, calls the effort "nothing more than a bad-faith attempt to cut off access to education for millions of students who have been historically underserved by higher education."
Some questions and answers arising from the new rule:
Q: Who goes to for-profit colleges?
A: Students seeking training in areas such as nursing, truck driving, culinary arts and auto repair. Such fields attract many nontraditional students, including veterans and workers laid off during the economic downturn. About two-thirds are over the age of 24. Half have dependents and almost 40 percent work full time while enrolled, according to the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities. Students at for-profit schools are more likely to live at or below the federal poverty level and receive food stamp benefits than students in other sectors of higher education. About 1.3 million students enrolled last spring at a for-profit school, according to the National Student Clearinghouse Research Center. That was about a 5 percent decline from a year earlier.
Q: In what ways are for-profit colleges under fire?
A: The regulation, which goes into effect on July 1, is the latest step in a yearslong fight by the Obama administration to improve outcomes and end aggressive recruiting at for-profit colleges. In 2012, the for-profit colleges convinced a judge that similar regulations were too arbitrary.
Last summer, the Education Department reached an agreement with Corinthian Colleges, a chain based in Santa Ana, California, to sell or close its more than 90 U.S. campuses.
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau earlier this year filed suit against the large, for-profit college chain ITT Educational Services Inc. alleging that it pushed students into high-cost private loans that would likely end in default. The company denied the charges.
On Capitol Hill, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, has aggressively investigated the industry. At the state level, several attorneys general have also pursued action.
"These regulations are a necessary step to ensure that colleges accepting federal funds protect students, cut costs and improve outcomes," Duncan said.
Q: Why is the sector a target?
A: The industry has among the highest student loan default rates and lowest graduation rates in higher education. Some veterans' advocates have accused it of aggressively targeting veterans because of their federal GI Bill money. Critics say the schools are too expensive and a waste of money not just for students, but for taxpayers who fund the GI Bill and other loan and grant dollars used by a large chunk of students to help pay to attend for-profit colleges.
Q: What's the other side of the story?
A: For-profit colleges argue that they provide educational programs to students who have historically been left out of higher education and that the regulations would reduce the educational opportunities for students most in need of training programs. Critics say it's unfair to target just these career-oriented programs because poor outcomes can be found in other areas of higher education.
"This regulation could shut down a bachelor's degree nursing program at a for-profit institution but not one in exactly the same circumstances at a non-profit or public institution," said Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., the ranking member of the Senate education committee, who argues this isn't the best way to weed out bad actors in education.
In the proposed regulation released earlier this year, another measurement proposed to judge these programs was the default rate of student loans. But that was removed in the final regulations because the Education Department said that doing so would create more streamlined regulations. The for-profit sector says that was done to appease publicly funded community colleges that would have gotten snared under that metric.
"We will vigorously contest all these issues to help ensure that students, employers and communities are not harmed by such an arbitrary and biased regulation," Gunderson said.
A spokesman for Gunderson's organization said a decision hasn't been made yet about whether a lawsuit will be filed to challenge the rule.
Q: Are advocates for tougher regulations now happy?
A: Not necessarily. Some of them say the regulations don't go far enough.
Rory O'Sullivan, deputy director of the advocacy group Young Invincibles, said the administration caved by scrapping the student loan default rate component.
"By failing to include a default rate standard, the administration ignores the most vulnerable students: those who withdraw from failing programs with debt but no degree," O'Sullivan said.
Harkin said he commends the effort, but the rule does little to stop colleges that offer poor quality programs where most of the students drop out.
Megatrendi nisu naš izum. Lukavi Ameri misle da su našli način da i deci namaknu dužničku omču oko vrata.
Na Zapadu ništa novo.
http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/strava-na-ulicama-fergusona-pozari-pucnjava-otkazani-letovi-i-zatvorene-ulice/141125003 (http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/strava-na-ulicama-fergusona-pozari-pucnjava-otkazani-letovi-i-zatvorene-ulice/141125003)
u nas policija ništa ne smije
a to su nam uvalili ti pakaši 1995 baš što su došli iz takvih zemalja gdje je policija svetinja
Koga zanima da čita, evo transkripta saslušanja svedoka pred grand jury porotom koja je odlučila da u slučaju Darena Vilsona koji je ubio Majka Brauna u Fergusonu ne vredi pokretati suđenje:
https://cbsstlouis.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/grand-jury-volume-4.pdf
Daj to sažmi u par rečenica...
Pa video si valjda vesti? Policajac neće biti ni optužen, priča da je iz daleka upucao čoveka koji je stajao sa podignutim rukama i molio ga da ne puca na kraju nije baš skroz tačna, bilo je fizičkog kontakta između policajca i ubijenoga, prvi metak je ispaljen u natezanju dok je policajac još sedeo u kolima a ubijeni ga vukao rukom itd.
Nesrećna priča, potpuno žalosno da iko bude ubijen zbog praktično ničega, ali dobro svedočastvo o socijalnim i rasnim podelama u Americi 2014. godine. Gde, kako se čini, nažalost, veliki deo odgovornosti za incident leži na ubijenome, bez obzira na to koliko je policajac bio lak na obaraču. :(
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Ево шта не ваља код овог подсећања. Кад за седамнаестогодишњака прочитам да је child, све ми се учини да је написано врло тенденциозно и једнострано, све и да јесте како овде пише.
Razumno. Opet, kad imaš zemlju u kojoj se sedamnaestogodišnjak ne smatra doraslim da pije alkohol ili da se fotografiše s dignutom ili bilo kakvom ćunom, al ga ubiše na ulici (pa makar delom i on za to bio odgovoran jer se konfrontirao sa čovekom koji ga je pratio, umesto da beži) - nije loše da se ta paradoksalna postavka makar ovako, između redova prizove.
Сме да вози аутомобил, али не и да пије; то је парадокс. Међутим, та земља је имала и случај Родни Кинг где покојни Родни није баш био невинашце како је најпре приказано, а у демонстрацијама и нередима се подразумевало. Зато мислим да је ово child непромишљено, јер чак и оно што се на нету може наћи о Трејвону реално није Роднијевог ранга, те је мудро избећи осећај тенденциозности.
(Наравно, гуглао сам има ли Трејвон досије.)
Ste bili neko vreme u SAD da proučite sve to što vam se čini ili ne čini kao paradoks?
ja nešto ne vidim paradoks da se nekom da da vozi auto, a pri tome ne dozvoli da pije.
Naravno da nema paradoksa. Ne postoji zabrana konzumiranja alkohola nego usluživanja alkoholom na javnim mestima. U prekršaju odgovornost je na kelneru. Postoji i zabrana za vožnju maloletnicima ispod 16 godina, mislim da se i neko vreme po dobijanju dozvole zahteva pratnja odrasle osobe. Moja unuka u petnaestoj godini već merka šta će da vozi. Hoću da kažem da je u zakonskim uslovima priprema za vožnju dugotrajna. Na drugoj strani je postupak policije u intervenciji. Bio sam skandalizovan u Dallasu kad su intervenisali na jednoj ženi. Mera prisile u po bela dana, na otvorenom prostoru je bila krajnje nasilna. Postojanje kriminala na ulicama u SAD ne opravdava mere koje se preduzimaju.
Quote from: tomat on 01-12-2014, 10:18:21
ja nešto ne vidim paradoks da se nekom da da vozi auto, a pri tome ne dozvoli da pije.
Нису то повезане ствари, нема "при томе". Просто ми се чини апсурдно да се сматра да је човек са 16 година довољно зрео да управља аутомобилом, али да не сме легално да купи пиво. Аутомобил је много већа одговорност па и опасност - алкохол је то само у случају бахаћења, док аутомобил носи са собом још низ фактора који не морају у основи да имају бахатост - ту су и умор, искуство, способност брзе процене ситуације, рефлекси, итд.
Ja sam mnogo teže razumevao vožnju babaca od preko 80 godina. Komentar o vožnji ti je potpuno promašen. Čak ni teza o bahaćenju ne stoji. Jednom mi je kompetentno rečeno da su veća opasnost u vožnji pripiti od pijanih. Blago pijanstvo povećava smelost, a teško pijanstvo sužava svest pa su vozači sporiji i vide sve saobraćajne znake. Ono šta se kod nas dešava posledica je nečeg drugog.
Ја не мислим на пијане возаче, него на продају пића уопште.
Jednom, u Tulsi, nisu nas pustili u Hassler Hall, mesto gde se pije pivo i jedu kobasice, jer smo imali troje dece sa sobom. Zabrane su dobro upozorenje.
Kad budu uveli polaganje ispijanja, i to i teorijski i prakticni deo onda neka usaglase i godine za voznju i za ispijanje.
Pedeset jedna stranica ovog topika, a Amerika nikako da propadne...
Ni Đekna nije umrla.
Tačno! :!:
http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/stotine-bosanaca-na-ulicama-st-louisa-nismo-dosli-ovdje-da-nas-ubijaju/141202185 (http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/stotine-bosanaca-na-ulicama-st-louisa-nismo-dosli-ovdje-da-nas-ubijaju/141202185)
Jooooj kad krenu ove placipicke sad da kukajuuuu...
...dal' ce Andji odma i film da naruce...
Da su ubili Srbina onda bi izlazak na ulice bio sasvim opravdan...
Ako cemo bez zaebavanja, za 'ednog blek madrfakera, strado jedan vajtboj....ebga, steta Izbosne...
Trebalo bi sad prekinuti sva ta sranja, kad vec nigeri nisu imali kahonese da ucmekaju zandara, jelte!?
A bajdvej, truki i ova jje bio Srbin, samo krive vjere ;)
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/516513/KOLAPS-U-NJUJORKU-Demonstranti-besni-zbog-jos-jednog-nevinog-policajca-ubice (http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/516513/KOLAPS-U-NJUJORKU-Demonstranti-besni-zbog-jos-jednog-nevinog-policajca-ubice)
Američkoj policiji izgleda nije dosta belaja:
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/516821/REVOLUCIJA-Novi-protesti-potresaju-SAD-policajac-ubio-nenaoruzanog-crnca-zbog-tableta-u-dzepu (http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/516821/REVOLUCIJA-Novi-protesti-potresaju-SAD-policajac-ubio-nenaoruzanog-crnca-zbog-tableta-u-dzepu)
Što više čitamo i gledamo ovakve stvari sve se više pitamo kakvu obuku dobijaju ti panduri u Americi. Daren Vilson je čoveka, kako god da se okrene, ubio bez povoda. Ovaj takođe. O onom detetu od 12 godina da ne pričam. A jutros sam gledao kako su udavili onog nesrećnika usred Njujorka, njih četvorica. Pa da smo se skupili Anomander, Ja, Zosko i Skalop pa bi ga uhapsili na profesionalniji način. Zaista, imaju li neku obuku, neke treninge, neke testove da se utvrdi znaju li kako se prilazi osumnjičenom tako da svi budu što je moguće bezbedniji ili to samo lažu za potrebe filmova?
Kad bih bio ljubitelj teorija zavere, rekao bih da izgleda kao da se iz petnih žila trude da izazovu rasni sukob. Ali da se zadržimo na objektivnoj stvarnosti-složio bih se sa Mehom, nešto je trulo u državi Danskoj...u sistemu. Jasno, dešavaju se greške, postoje situacije gde je teško u sekundama doneti ispravnu odluku i nema se vremena za prisećanje pravila, ali ovo se prečesto dešava da bi bila pojedinačna greška-ovo je sistemski problem, a možda i šire, problem kulture nasilja u USA. Jer ako policija prvo puca i davi, pa onda postavlja pitanja, onda to više nije policija, već kaznena ekspedicija. A ono davljenje, zaista mučno, šta reći.
Da, pa, u drugim zemljama naprosto nema ovoliko slučajeva da policija ubija osumnjičene. Hajde da na stranu stavimo na ovom topiku već dokumentovanu militarizaciju policije (kačio sam Johna Olivera i Cracked koji pričaju o ovome) jer su tu stvari jasne - kada prečesto koristiš jedinice obučene i opremljene da se bore protiv naoružanih i opasnih osumnjičenih - tu će povremeno ljudi biti ubijani. Ali ovi slučajevi o kojima pričamo su sve slučajevi gde ubistva počine obični policajci, dakle oni koji u principu ne bi ni trebalo da posežu za fizičkom prinudom i oružjem sem u najekstremnijim slučajevima, oni koji bi trebalo da upozore osumnjičenog a zatim se sklone i zovu SWAT da se izbori sa nekim za koga se osnovano sumnja da predstavlja opasnost. Umesto toga gledamo kako četiri policajca guše čoveka koji prodaje cigarete na ulici. Ko ih je obučio? I kako je moguće da niko od njih neće biti procesuiran za nešto što je u najmanju ruku ubistvo iz nehata?
Da ponovim, jer ne čitate.
Quote from: scallop on 01-12-2014, 10:44:17
Na drugoj strani je postupak policije u intervenciji. Bio sam skandalizovan u Dallasu kad su intervenisali na jednoj ženi. Mera prisile u po bela dana, na otvorenom prostoru je bila krajnje nasilna. Postojanje kriminala na ulicama u SAD ne opravdava mere koje se preduzimaju.
Policija se obučava za primenu ekstremnih mera. Osnovna uputstva "mirnim" građanima su: "Ne suprotstavljaj se policiji!". "Ne pokušavaj da se našališ." "Ne turaj ruke u džepove." Čini mi se da su policajci krajnje prepadnuti i sužene svesti kad treba da intervenišu.
Tako deluje. Ne valja im filozofija.
Čisto da se ne misli da kanadska policija zaostaje u ovoj oblasti:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-stories-that-prove-police-are-just-as-terrifying-in-canada/ (http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-stories-that-prove-police-are-just-as-terrifying-in-canada/)
Još jedna potvrda Obamine vizije :lol: Čoveka naraniše govnima, i s pravom u mnogim stvarima, ali ova priča oko zdravstvenog osiguranja ne deluje tako loše:
The Obamacare paradox: the law looks terrible but is doing great (http://www.vox.com/2014/12/5/7336807/obamacare-enrollment-costs)
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Politically, Obamacare (http://www.vox.com/cards/obamacare/what-is-obamacare) has had a terrible past few weeks. First there was inaccurate enrollment data (the administration wrongly included dental plans (http://www.vox.com/2014/11/20/7254793/report-white-house-secretly-counted-dental-plans-in-obamacare)). Then there were Jon Grube (http://www.vox.com/2014/11/13/7211279/obamacare-jon-gruber-controversy)r's comments on "the stupidity of American voters." And it was capped off with Sen. Chuck Schumer saying (http://www.nationaljournal.com/congress/chuck-schumer-passing-obamacare-in-2010-was-a-mistake-20141125) that passing the law was a mistake. That led to headlines like: "Dark days ahead for Obamacare (http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/225348-dark-days-ahead-for-obamacare)," "The Obamacare controversy grows (http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2014/11/19/bill-oreilly-obamacare-controversy-grows/)" and my own "Obamacare's terrible, horrible, no good very bad month (http://www.vox.com/2014/11/21/7259557/obamacare-enrollment-king-gruber)."
But if you look beyond the political fights, the picture looks very different. Obamacare is, policy-wise, having a great month — maybe even the law's best month ever.
Jonathan Chait wrote (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/4-new-studies-obamacare-working-incredibly-well.html) a piece in New York magazine detailing four recent studies that show Obamacare is working. Some of it has to do with the part of the law that we all know the best — the coverage expansion to millions of Americans. Study after study (http://www.vox.com/2014/7/23/5930975/another-survey-shows-obamacare-driving-down-the-uninsured-rate) shows that the Affordable Care Act has increased the number of Americans with health insurance. And this wasn't actually taken as a given at this point last year: there was some speculation that coverage rates might actually drop in 2014, as Obamacare's regulations cancelled millions of individual policies.
Then there are the parts of Obamacare that are about improving the health care system not just for the uninsured, but for everyone who goes to the doctor. And here, too, the law seems to be working.
Health care costs grew at their slowest rate ever in 2013 (http://www.vox.com/2014/12/3/7328423/health-costs-lowest-growth) — in part due to Obamacare's spending cuts — according to a recent study in Health Affairs. And hospitals have been making fewer deadly medical errors (http://www.vox.com/2014/12/2/7317899/hospital-errors-obama) since the Affordable Care Act began cutting Medicare reimbursements for institutions with lots of errors.
Chait's piece is worth reading in full, and I'd only add to it a few other tidbits of good Obamacare news that have come out in recent days. One has to do with enrollment: 765,000 Healthcare.gov shoppers selected health insurance plans during the first three weeks of open enrollment this fall.
To put that in perspective: during the first two months of open enrollment in 2013, just 470,000 people enrolled in coverage — and those numbers included both Healthcare.gov and the 14 state-based exchanges. This time around, and only counting the Healthcare.gov shoppers, enrollment has easily surpassed that total in half the time. Much of this likely boils down to the fact that the Obama administration (and states) built health shopping websites that actually work this time.
Enrollment is moving faster, and shoppers have more options when they turn up to buy. Health and Human Services put out a report this afternoon finding that the number of options on Healthcare.gov has increased 25 percent over the past year.
More insurers want to sell on the marketplace, and that seems to be restraining the growth of insurance premiums. The average benchmark insurance premium (the mid-level plan that the government uses to figure out how big subsidies will be) went up 2 percent between 2013 and 2014. In the years before the health insurance expansion, premiums in the individual market typically went up by at least 10 percent (http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/press-releases/2014/jun/new-analysis-of-health-insurance-premium-trends)annually.
Obamacare, despite one political disaster after another, is delivering on some of the key things the law meant to change about the health care system. The health care system covers more people than it did a year ago. Costs are growing at a slower pace than ever before and hospitals are killing fewer patients. That's a lot of good news that's happened quickly. There's a lot of good happening with the law that, if you're just looking at the politics Obamacare, you'd never know was happening.
Moj zet, sad već bivši zagovarač Obame nonstop cvili. Izotpuštaše mu sestre, pa i neke lekare, a administracija sve silnija. Jebeš lokomotivu, ako kondukteri naplaćuju karte u vagonima.
Opet problemi i u St.Luisu:
http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/bosanka-pretucena-i-opljackana-u-st-louisu-policija-istrazuje-zlocin-iz-mrznje/141206006 (http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/bosanka-pretucena-i-opljackana-u-st-louisu-policija-istrazuje-zlocin-iz-mrznje/141206006)
Evo, kome se čita, sažetak od 480 strana onog izveštaja komisije američkog senata o tome kako je CIA mučila pojačano ispitivala osumnjičene za terorizam:
http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/study2014/sscistudy1.pdf (http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/study2014/sscistudy1.pdf)
Kompletan izveštaj na 6000 strana je i dalje poverljiv, ali i ovo je valjda dovoljno zabavno.
Edit: Uzgred, valja podsetiti i na jednu jednostavnu istinu koja se tiče torture kao metoda ispitivanja zarobljenika. Naime, cela diskusija o "opravdanosti" mučenja od strane američkih službenika a nad osumnjičenima za terorizam se svodi na pitanje da li se korišćenje neetičkih metoda ispitivanja može racionalizovati time da se na taj način (jedino) dobijaju informacije koje pomažu da se spreči dalji terorizam, odnosno da se, jelte, spasu životi.
Međutim, tu se valja setiti da tortura kao metod ispitivanja nikad nije ni bila zamišljena da proizvodi autentične obaveštajne informacije, već da osobe nad kojima se tortura vrši navede da daju željena (često lažna) priznanja o svojim gresima, svojoj umešanosti u protivzakonite ili terorističke aktivnosti itd. Ovo zna i svako ko je privođen u policiju i u stanici dobijao batine tokom informativnog razgovora - a izdignuto na nivo federalnih agencija SAD, princip je isti: tortura ne daje obaveštajne podatke nego materijal za optužnicu koji može ali ni slučajno ne mora biti verodostojan. Ergo, diskusija o tome je li mučenje "opravdano" jer možda spasava živote je bspredmetna pošto početna premisa ne stoji: mučenje nikada nije ni trebalo da daje stvarne informacije već samooptužujuće izjave koje se uklapaju u prethodno dizajniranu priču.
http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/bosanka-iz-st-louisa-uhapsena-zbog-lazne-prijave-napada-iz-mrznje/141216007 (http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/bosanka-iz-st-louisa-uhapsena-zbog-lazne-prijave-napada-iz-mrznje/141216007)
10 things the military won't tell you (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-things-military-won-t-141043566.html)
Američka policija opet ubija crnce:
http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/521785/NOVO-UBISTVO-Policija-ubila-jos-jednog-Afroamerikanca-u-Sent-Luisu (http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Svet/521785/NOVO-UBISTVO-Policija-ubila-jos-jednog-Afroamerikanca-u-Sent-Luisu)
Kraj je godine pa da se setimo druge stvari koja je obeležila Ameriku u 2014-oj, pored povećane svesti o tome kako se policija odnosi prema AfroAmerikancima, a to je Piketijeva knjiga Kapital u 21. veku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_in_the_Twenty-First_Century) koja je doduše izašla prošle godine ali je ove tek prevedena na engleski i dobro sumirala antisocijalne trendove savremenog liberalnog kapitalizma.
Ali pošto smo mi lenji internet smarači, napravićemo još bolje sumiranje. Ovaj dijagram, naime:
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2rqimpj.jpg&hash=fad9a7f45ffc6ef45da1df367dc9c05ecc16d1f6)
http://youtu.be/GDyO4KzbuiE (http://youtu.be/GDyO4KzbuiE)
Ovo kačim s posvetom za skalopa:
'Why everything sucks' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKUZ42T9diU#)
Evo malo o privrednom rastu u Americi: http://www.b92.net/biz/komentari.php?nav_id=939843 (http://www.b92.net/biz/komentari.php?nav_id=939843)
Producent, scenarist i režiser filma "Gray State", koji govori o apokaliptičnom društvu, koncentracijskim logorima, policijskoj državi, panici i rasulu u kojem jedino policijski sustav "Novog svjetskog poretka" jamči sigurnost, nađen je mrtav u svom stanu s cijelom obitelji.
http://voxbblog.blogspot.com/2015/01/autor-filma-o-novom-svjetskom-poretku.html (http://voxbblog.blogspot.com/2015/01/autor-filma-o-novom-svjetskom-poretku.html)
Bill Clinton's libido threatens to derail Hillary — again (http://nypost.com/2015/02/14/bill-clintons-libido-threatens-to-derail-hillary-again/)
Naravno, ovo je tekst iz Nju Jork Posta koji je njihova verzija Aloa ili Informera, ali eto, ko voli nek se naslađuje.
Ahahah, ovo ko iz nekog vica. Službenici TSA na denverskom međunarodnom aerodromu manipulisali sistemom nadzora tako da jedan od kolega dobije priliku da ispipava atraktivne muškarce :lol: :lol: :lol:
CBS4 Investigation: TSA Screeners At DIA Manipulated System To Grope Men's Genitals (http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/04/13/cbs4-investigation-tsa-screeners-at-dia-manipulated-system-to-grope-mens-genitals/)
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DENVER (CBS4) – A CBS4 investigation has learned that two Transportation Security Administration screeners at Denver International Airport have been fired after they were discovered manipulating passenger screening systems to allow a male TSA employee to fondle the genital areas of attractive male passengers.
It happened roughly a dozen times, according to information gathered by CBS4.
According to law enforcement reports obtained during the CBS4 investigation, a male TSA screener told a female colleague in 2014 that he "gropes" male passengers who come through the screening area at DIA.
"He related that when a male he finds attractive comes to be screened by the scanning machine he will alert another TSA screener to indicate to the scanning computer that the party being screened is a female. When the screener does this, the scanning machine will indicate an anomaly in the genital area and this allows (the male TSA screener) to conduct a pat-down search of that area."
Although the TSA learned of the accusation on Nov. 18, 2014 via an anonymous tip from one of the agency's own employees, reports show that it would be nearly three months before anything was done.
RELATED: TSA, Denver Refuse To Release Groping Video, Reports (http://cbsloc.al/1E0cO05)
On Feb. 9 TSA security supervisor Chris Higgins watched the screening area, observing the employees. "At about 0925 he observed (the male TSA screener) appear to give a signal to another screener ... (the second female screener) was responsible for the touchscreen system that controls whether or not the scanning machine alerts to gender- specific anomalies, according to a law enforcement report obtained by CBS4.
DOCUMENT: Read The Police Report (https://cbsdenver.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/police-report.pdf)
According to the report, the TSA investigator then watched a male passenger enter the scanner at DIA "and observed (the female TSA agent) press the screening button for a female. The scanner alerted to an anomaly, and Higgins observed (the male TSA screener) conduct a pat down of the passenger's front groin and buttocks area with the palm of his hands, which is contradictory to TSA searching policy."
Higgins later interviewed the female TSA agent who was an accomplice in the groping conspiracy. She "admitted that she has done this for (the male TSA officer) at least 10 other times. She knew that doing so would allow (the male TSA officer) to perform a pat down on a male passenger that (the male TSA screener) found attractive," reported Higgins.
The TSA said the male passenger who they saw being fondled was flying on Southwest Airlines and the agency has videotape of the incident. CBS4 has requested the tape but it was not immediately released. TSA has said it could not identify the male passenger who was groped and the agency says there have been no other complaints about the serial groping.
A spokesperson for TSA released a brief written statement to CBS4 saying, "These alleged acts are egregious and intolerable. TSA has removed the two officers from the agency. All allegations of misconduct are thoroughly investigated by the agency. And when substantiated, employees are held accountable."
The agency has not released the names of the two fired employees and refused a CBS4 request for an interview.
Earlier this month a prosecutor from the Denver District Attorney's Office was asked to review the case but she declined to press charges because there was no reasonable likelihood of conviction and no victim had been identified.
It's not the first time TSA screeners at DIA have been accused of inappropriate touching of passengers. Jamelyn Steenhoek (http://denver.cbslocal.com/tag/Jamelyn-Steenhoek/) filed a complaint against TSA screeners at the airport saying the frisking she received in December 2013 amounted to a sexual assault. She said a female TSA agent searched her at an airport checkpoint after an alarm went off.
"There are just areas of my body I'm not comfortable being touched in. On the outside of my pants she cupped my crotch," said Steenhoek, who called the frisking "invasive."
She said "the part of the search that bothered most was the breast search. You could tell it shouldn't take that much groping. I felt uncomfortable, I felt violated."
In 2014 the Denver District Attorney's Office announced it would not be filing criminal charges in the Steenhoek case.
RELATED: TSA, Denver Refuse To Release Groping Video, Reports (http://cbsloc.al/1E0cO05)
Across the country other passengers have raised concerns over the years about TSA pat downs. But the recent case uncovered by CBS4 is more problematic for TSA since its own employee blew the whistle on the practice, a supervisor observed it happening, the agency fired the employees, and the female screener who was fired admitted to the fondling conspiracy.
CBS4 Investigator Brian Maass (http://denver.cbslocal.com/personality/brian-maass/) has been with the station more than 30 years uncovering waste, fraud and corruption. Follow him on Twitter @Briancbs4 (http://twitter.com/Briancbs4).
I opet ko iz nekog vica ili makar iz elevator pitcha za neki sitkom:
Police Force Quits After Black Woman Elected Mayor (http://www.refinery29.com/2015/04/85950/police-department-quits-after-town-elects-black-woman-mayor)
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Employees of one small Missouri town had an extreme reaction when residents elected their first Black female mayor: 80% of the police department quit, along with the city clerk and two other staffers.
Tyrus Byrd, a former Parma, MO city council member, was sworn into office as mayor last week, but she will have to deal with a police force with only one person. Five (http://www.kfvs12.com/clip/11389707/police-city-officials-resign-after-new-parma-mayor-elected) of the town's six police officers submitted letters of resignation last week, citing only "safety concerns," according to news station KFVS (http://www.kfvs12.com/story/28801129/officers-city-officials-resign-after-new-mayor-elected).
No one knows yet exactly what "safety concerns" would make a town's public safety officers quit en masse, but Byrd has said she is still determined to clean up the city. To make the mass resignations even more suspicious, KFVS also reported that when Byrd started her first day, the officers' resignation letters could not be found (http://www.wsmv.com/story/28814016/parma-residents-react-to-loss-of-police-officers), and that computers had been wiped clean.
Byrd won a close election against longtime Mayor Randall Ramsey, who held the office for 37 years. The population of Parma is slightly more than 700 people, and Byrd won by less than 40 votes. The city attorney, clerk, and waste water treatment supervisor also resigned with the police officers.
Baltmor u plamenu, proglašen policijski čas...
Riots in Baltimore over man's death in police custody (http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-expected-mondays-funeral-freddie-gray-081844148.html)
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BALTIMORE (AP) — Rioters plunged part of Baltimore into chaos Monday, torching a pharmacy, setting police cars ablaze and throwing bricks at officers hours after thousands mourned the man who died from a severe spinal injury he suffered in police custody.
The governor declared a state of emergency and called in the National Guard to restore order, and Attorney General Loretta Lynch, in her first day on the job, said she would send Justice Department officials to the city in coming days. A weeklong, daily curfew was imposed beginning Tuesday from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m., the mayor said, and Baltimore public schools announced that they would be closed on Tuesday. At least 15 officers were hurt, and some two dozen people were arrested. Two officers remained hospitalized, police said.
"The National Guard represents the last resort in restoring order," Gov. Larry Hogan told a news conference. "I have not made this decision lightly."
Officers wearing helmets and wielding shields occasionally used pepper spray to keep the rioters back. For the most part, though, they relied on line formations to keep protesters at bay.
Monday's riot was the latest flare-up over the mysterious death of Freddie Gray, whose fatal encounter with officers came amid the national debate over police use of force, especially when black suspects are involved. Gray was African-American. Police have declined to specify the races of the six officers involved in his arrest, all of whom have been suspended with pay while they are under investigation.
Emergency officials were constantly thwarted as they tried to restore calm in the affected parts of the city of more than 620,000 people. Firefighters trying to put out a blaze at a CVS store were hindered by someone who sliced holes in a hose connected to a fire hydrant, spraying water all over the street and nearby buildings. Later Monday night, a massive fire erupted in East Baltimore that a spokesman for Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake initially said was connected to the riots. He later texted an AP reporter saying officials are still investigating whether there is a connection.
The Mary Harvin Transformation Center was under construction and no one was believed to be in the building at the time, said the spokesman, Kevin Harris. The center is described online as a community-based organization that supports youth and families.
The smell of burned rubber wafted in the air in one neighborhood where youths were looting a liquor store. Police stood still nearby as people drank looted alcohol. Glass and trash littered the streets, and other small fires were scattered about. One person from a church tried to shout something from a megaphone as two cars burned.
"Too many people have spent generations building up this city for it to be destroyed by thugs, who in a very senseless way, are trying to tear down what so many have fought for, tearing down businesses, tearing down and destroying property, things that we know will impact our community for years," said Rawlings-Blake, a lifelong resident of the city.
Gray's family was shocked by the violence and was lying low; instead, they hoped to organize a peace march later in the week, said family attorney Billy Murphy. He said they did not know the riot was going to happen and urged calm.
"They don't want this movement nationally to be marred by violence," he said. "It makes no sense."
Police urged parents to locate their children and bring them home. Many of those on the streets appeared to be African-American youths, wearing backpacks and khaki pants that are a part of many public school uniforms.
The riot broke out just as high school let out, and at a key city bus depot for student commuters around Mondawmin Mall, a shopping area northwest of downtown Baltimore. It shifted about a mile away later to the heart of an older shopping district and near where Gray first encountered police. Both commercial areas are in African-American neighborhoods.
Later in the day, people began looting clothing and other items from stores at the mall, which became unprotected as police moved away from the area. About three dozen officers returned, trying to arrest looters but driving many away by firing pellet guns and rubber bullets.
Downtown Baltimore, the Inner Harbor tourist attractions and the city's baseball and football stadiums are nearly 4 miles away. While the violence had not yet reached City Hall and the Camden Yards area, the Orioles canceled Monday's game for safety precautions.
On Monday night, Maryland Congressman Elijah Cummings and about 200 others, mostly men, marched arm-in-arm through a neighborhood littered with broken glass, flattened aluminum cans and other debris, to protest Gray's death. As they got close to a line of police officers, the marchers went down on their knees. After the ministers got back on their feet, they walked until they were face-to-face with the police officers in a tight formation and wearing riot gear.
In a statement issued Monday, Attorney General Lynch said she would send Justice Department officials to the city in coming days, including Vanita Gupta, the agency's top civil rights lawyer. The FBI and Justice Department are investigating Gray's death for potential criminal civil rights violations.
Many who had never met Gray gathered earlier in the day in a Baltimore church to bid him farewell and press for more accountability among law enforcement.
The 2,500-capacity New Shiloh Baptist church was filled with mourners. But even the funeral could not ease mounting tensions.
Police said in a news release sent while the funeral was underway that the department had received a "credible threat" that three notoriously violent gangs are now working together to "take out" law enforcement officers.
A small group of mourners started lining up about two hours ahead of Monday's funeral. Placed atop Gray's body was a white pillow with a screened picture of him. A projector aimed at two screens on the walls showed the words "Black Lives Matter & All Lives Matter."
The service lasted nearly two hours, with dignitaries in attendance including former Maryland representative and NAACP leader Kweisi Mfume and current Maryland Rep. John Sarbanes.
With the Rev. Jesse Jackson sitting behind him, the Rev. Jamal Bryant gave a rousing and spirited eulogy for Freddie Gray, a message that received a standing ovation from the crowded church.
Bryant said Gray's death would spur further protests, and he urged those in the audience to join.
"Freddie's death is not in vain," Bryant said. "After this day, we're going to keep on marching. After this day, we're going to keep demanding justice."
Gray was arrested after making eye contact with officers and then running away, police said. He was held down, handcuffed and loaded into a van without a seat belt. Leg cuffs were put on him when he became irate inside.
He asked for medical help several times even before being put in the van, but paramedics were not called until after a 30-minute ride. Police have acknowledged he should have received medical attention on the spot where he was arrested, but they have not said how his spine was injured.
Uzgred, ne znam koliko vas gleda Keya &Peelea na JuTjubu, ali njihovi "anger translator skečevi" su povremeno solidni. E,sad je Obama ACTUALLY uzeo Keya da "prevodi" za njega na svečanoj večeri. Ludilo:
http://www.vox.com/2015/4/27/8502493/obama-white-house-correspondents-dinner (http://www.vox.com/2015/4/27/8502493/obama-white-house-correspondents-dinner)
xrofl
https://www.facebook.com/7NewsMiami/videos/vb.29790827612/10152896138912613/?type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/7NewsMiami/videos/vb.29790827612/10152896138912613/?type=2&theater)
http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/iranska-vojska-zaplijenila-teretni-brod-sad-poslale-razarac/150428117 (http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/iranska-vojska-zaplijenila-teretni-brod-sad-poslale-razarac/150428117)
The most racist places in America, according to Google (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/04/28/the-most-racist-places-in-america-according-to-google/)
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F1eqt1w.jpg&hash=b07ebbaef6fcea4f0dd482bfe942f9586c38901f)
sjever ponovo jase! :lol:
pretpostavljam da ovo tamnoplavo uglavnom pustinja, nenaseljeni delovi, sa ponekim rednek inbridima, koji nisu nikad ni vidli druge rase.....
Crowds gather for anti-Islam demonstration outside Phoenix mosque (http://news.yahoo.com/crowds-gather-anti-islam-demonstration-outside-phoenix-mosque-011347916.html)
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PHOENIX (Reuters) - More than 200 protesters, some armed, berated Islam and its Prophet Mohammed outside an Arizona mosque on Friday in a provocative protest that was denounced by counterprotesters shouting "Go home, Nazis," weeks after an anti-Muslim event in Texas came under attack by two gunmen.
The anti-Muslim event outside the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix was organized by an Iraq war veteran who posted photos of himself online wearing a T-shirt with the slogan "Fuck Islam" on it and waving the U.S. flag.
As the event got under way on Friday, demonstrators on both sides screamed obscenities at each other as police in riot gear swiftly separated the two groups, each with about 250 people, using police tape and barricades.
"This is in response to the recent attack in Texas," organizer Jon Ritzheimer wrote on his Facebook page announcing the event at a mosque targeted in part because the two Texas gunmen had worshipped there.
More than 900 people responded on the event's Facebook page that they would take part in the demonstration, and by 6 p.m. local time police were expanding their presence in anticipation of growing crowds. Officers with riot helmets and gas masks formed a cordon for several blocks.
Among the anti-Islam protesters, some of whom called Islam a "religion of murderers," more than a dozen men in military clothing carried semi-automatic weapons. Others waved copies of caricatures of the Prophet Mohammad drawn at the Texas event.
Depictions of Mohammad, which many Muslims view as blasphemous, have been a flashpoint for violence in Europe and the United States in recent months where those displaying or creating such images have been targeted by militants.
Meanwhile, anti-Muslim groups have been active in the United States, buying ads and staging demonstrations characterizing Islam as violent, often citing the murderous brutality of Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria.
ACT OF RETRIBUTION
The Phoenix mosque targeted on Friday has condemned such violence, and held a series of sermons at Friday prayers last year by an imam who criticized militant Islamist groups such as Islamic State, al Qaeda and Nigeria's Boko Haram.
The president of the center had urged worshippers not to engage with the demonstrators.
"We should remind ourselves that we do not match wrongness with wrongness, but with grace and mercy and goodness," Usama Shami told worshippers during Friday prayers.
While some counter-protesters outside the mosque responded to the anti-Islam protest with obscenities, others followed his advice and chanted "Love your neighbor."
In January, gunmen killed 12 people at the Paris office of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in anger at the magazine's cartoons featuring the Prophet, and a similar attack was foiled in Texas on May 3.
The pair of gunmen who opened fire near Dallas outside an exhibit of cartoons featuring Mohammad were shot dead by police without killing anyone. Leaders of the Phoenix Muslim community confirmed both gunmen had attended the Phoenix mosque targeted in Friday's demonstration.
Todd Green, a religion professor at Luther College in Iowa who studies Islamophobia, said that the brutal acts committed by Islamic State and other militant groups have colored many Americans' impressions of Muslims.
"Almost two-thirds of Americans don't know a Muslim," Green said. "What they know is ISIS, al Qaeda, and Charlie Hebdo."
U.S. officials are investigating claims that the Texas gunmen had ties to the Islamic State, but said they had not established a firm connection.
'EPIDEMIC OF ANTI-ISLAMIC SENTIMENT'
The Department of Homeland Security has been in touch with state and local law enforcement authorities, and was monitoring the situation in Phoenix, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said.
"Even expressions that are offensive, that are distasteful, and intended to sow divisions in an otherwise tight-knit, diverse community like Phoenix, cannot be used as a justification to carry out an act of violence," he told reporters.
Ritzheimer, the main organizer of the demonstration, said the point of the demonstration was "to expose the true colors of Islam."
"True Islam is terrorism. Yes, the ones that are out committing these atrocities and stuff, they are following the book as it's written," Ritzheimer told CNN.
Ritzheimer was a staff sergeant in the Marine Reserve and was deployed to Iraq twice, in 2005 and 2008, the Marine Corps said.
Anti-Islam activist Pamela Geller, who organized the Texas event, said she was not involved in the demonstration in Phoenix.
The mosque is a former church near the city's international airport that can hold some 600 worshippers. The Phoenix area is home to tens of thousands of Muslims.
The event is part of "an epidemic of anti-Islamic sentiment" that goes beyond protesting against extremism, said Imraan Siddiqi of the Arizona chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
"Don't mistake that, they're not saying they want to rid America of radical Islam, they are saying they want to rid America of Islam," Siddiqi said.
(Writing and additional reporting by Alistair Bell and Sharon Bernstein; Additional reporting by Scott Malone in Boston, and Alex Dobuzinskis and Dan Whitcomb in Los Angeles; Editing by Cynthia Johnston, Lisa Shumaker and Ken Wills)
EXCLUSIVE: Undercover DHS Tests Find Security Failures at US Airports (http://abcnews.go.com/ABCNews/exclusive-undercover-dhs-tests-find-widespread-security-failures/story?id=31434881)
Spojlr alrt: agenti su uspeli da 95% skrivenog oružja i eksploziva pronesu pored TSA službenika.
Prokleta je Amerika... :shock:
http://www.b92.net/zivot/vesti.php?yyyy=2015&mm=06&dd=09&nav_id=1002551 (http://www.b92.net/zivot/vesti.php?yyyy=2015&mm=06&dd=09&nav_id=1002551)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIlSqk_pfbA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIlSqk_pfbA)
Bogataš ubeđuje druge bogataše da najniža cena rada mora da se poveća.
http://gawker.com/shits-gonna-hit-the-fan-talking-to-a-billionaire-abo-1711464448 (http://gawker.com/shits-gonna-hit-the-fan-talking-to-a-billionaire-abo-1711464448)
Fud end Drag Edministrejšn donela odluku da trans-masti moraju da se ukloine iz američkih namirnica u naredne tri godine.
U.S. Bans Trans Fat (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-16/u-s-bans-trans-fat-in-a-boost-for-palm-oil-and-a-blow-for-pie)
QuoteArtificial trans fat will be removed from the U.S. food supply over the next three years under a ruling by regulators that the products pose health risks that contribute to heart disease.
There's no longer a scientific consensus that partially hydrogenated oils, the main source of trans fat, are generally recognized as safe, according to a final decision (https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2015-14883.pdf) released Tuesday by the Food and Drug Administration. The oils are used for frying and in baked goods as well as in confections.
Food companies will be able to petition the FDA to gain approval of specific uses of partially hydrogenated oils if they have data proving the use isn't harmful. Companies will have until June 2018 to comply with the FDA's determination, either by removing trans fat or gaining a waiver. The FDA said it hasn't seen any data to prove that even low levels of partially hydrogenated oils are safe.
The food industry has been using partially hydrogenated oils for decades, though many such as Kellogg Co., Kraft Foods Group Inc. and ConAgra Foods Inc. have been phasing them out. Many baked goods such as pie crusts and biscuits as well as canned frosting still use partially hydrogenated oils because they help baked goods maintain their flakiness and frostings be spreadable. As for frying, palm oil is expected to be a go-to alternative, while modified soybean oil may catch on as well.
"I don't know how many lives will be saved, but probably in the thousands per year when all the companies are in compliance," said Michael Jacobson, executive director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest.
Industry CostsThe FDA estimates the ban will cost the food industry $6.2 billion over 20 years as it reformulates products and substitutes ingredients. The benefits will total $140 billion during the same time period, mostly from lower spending on health care.
Food companies have been switching to mixtures of palm and coconut oils or palm and soybean oils, the combination used in tubs of Country Crock margarine made by Unilever Plc.
The Grocery Manufacturers Association, the Washington-based lobby group for food companies, said in a statement (http://www.gmaonline.org/news-events/newsroom/gma-statement-fda-action-on-phos-provides-needed-transition-time-for-food-m/) the three-year period for compliance "provides time needed for food manufacturers to complete their transition."
The association also said it will petition the FDA for approval of uses of low levels of partially hydrogenated oils and plans to show they are as safe as naturally occuring trans fat.
Biscuit HoldoutsConAgra, which sells packaged foods such as Chef Boyardee pasta dishes, Swiss Miss hot chocolate and Orville Redenbacher's popcorn, has eliminated partially hydrogenated oils from 90 percent of its products, spokeswoman Teresa Paulsen said in an e-mail. Products that haven't yet been reformulated include a couple varieties of biscuits, Paulsen said.
General Mills Inc. has reduced trans fats in 350 products since 2008 and 95 percent of the company's U.S. retail products are labeled zero grams of trans fat, Kirstie Foster, a spokeswoman, said in an e-mail. General Mills makes Betty Crocker and Pillsbury cake mixes and frosting that still contain partially hydrogenated oils.
The move "demonstrates the agency's commitment to the heart health of all Americans," FDA Acting Commissioner Stephen Ostroff said in a statement (http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm451237.htm). "This action is expected to reduce coronary heart disease and prevent thousands of fatal heart attacks every year."
Better AlternativeWhile Jacobson said palm oil as an alternative isn't ideal because it contains saturated fat, it's still better than trans fat.
"Trans fat raises the bad cholesterol and lowers the good cholesterol a little bit," he said."Saturated fat only raises the bad cholesterol."
About 70 percent of palm oil is produced in Malaysia and some also comes from Indonesia and South America, Tiger Tangavelu, technical director at Global Agri-Trade Corp. (http://globalagritrade.com/), said in an e-mail. The U.S. market size for palm oil is 2.6 billion pounds (1.2 billion kilograms) annually, he said. He expects that to increase by half a billion pounds a year once trans fats are eliminated.
Modified soybean oil is also an option. Monsanto Co. is testing an oil called Vistive Gold made from soybeans that have been genetically modified to make it heart-healthier and good for frying without the need to hydrogenate it, said Sarah Vacek, soybean quality traits manager at Monsanto. Restaurants will be Vistive Gold's main target.
"It's been in the works for over a decade," Vacek said. "We are pre-commercial right now. We are anticipating a full commercial launch in 2016."
New YorkNew York City was the first to ban trans fat from restaurants, followed by California, Philadelphia and Seattle, said Jacobson, with the Center for Science in the Public Interest (http://www.cspinet.org/).
Alternatives may not meet consumer expectations for pie crusts, according to comments from the American Frozen Food Institute filed after the FDA first proposed banning trans fat in 2013. The same may be true for canned frosting, especially whipped frosting, and for cake mixes, according to comments from the Grocery Manufacturers Association.
The association and the FDA have discussed the possibility that the Washington-based industry group will file a petition with the agency to allow some uses of partially hydrogenated oils, according to meeting minutes (http://www.regulations.gov/#%21docketDetail;D=FDA-2013-N-1317).
Najbolja je svinjska mas', jer je čista od "poboljšanja", ali tu nema američke industrije, osim u Luizijani.
Da, kod njih je decenijska kampanja protiv svinjske masti zaista bila uspešna tako da maltene da nemaju taj ogranak industrije uopšte.
http://youtu.be/mjzrvRKv6Ks (http://youtu.be/mjzrvRKv6Ks)
Ima i odličnih stvari na Tviter kanalu Vilijama Gibsona:
https://twitter.com/GreatDismal (https://twitter.com/GreatDismal)
A hilarious Australian stand-up comic explains what U.S. gun laws look like to the rest of the world (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/19/an-australian-stand-up-comic-explains-what-u-s-gun-laws-look-like-to-the-rest-of-the-world/)
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Gun rights activists often claim that Americans need guns for their own security.
However, a new study (https://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable15.pdf) by the Violence Policy Center, a gun control advocacy group, shows that, when guns kill people, they are overwhelmingly used for murder rather than self-defense. In 2008-2012, guns were used in 42,419 criminal homicides and only 1,108 justifiable homicides (defined as the killing of a felon during the commission of a felony by a private citizen), according to the report -- a ratio of 38 to 1.
Despite all that, Australian comedian Jim Jefferies says in a hilarious stand-up routine, the real reason gun owners want guns is just because they like them. That's okay, but it doesn't mean that guns should be legal, Jefferies says. Some people like taking drugs or driving at 100 miles an hour, and can be perfectly safe and responsible while doing so, but other irresponsible people have ruined those things for them.
Jefferies' routine offers a window into how American attitudes toward guns look to many people outside of the U.S.
Jefferies warns that about 10 percent of those who watch this video will be seething at it.
More on gun violence:
-You have to see how many more people are killed by guns in America to actually believe it (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/18/you-have-to-see-how-many-more-people-are-killed-by-guns-in-america-to-really-believe-it/?tid=pm_business_pop_b)
-This photo captures America's relationship with guns (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/18/one-photo-perfectly-captures-the-insanity-of-americas-relationship-with-guns/?tid=pm_business_pop_b)
-11 essential facts about guns and mass shootings in the United States (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/18/11-essential-facts-about-guns-and-mass-shootings-in-the-united-states/?tid=pm_business_pop_b)
http://youtu.be/lL8JEEt2RxI (http://youtu.be/lL8JEEt2RxI)
I da se skoro savršeno nadovežemo:
Video of Chicago cop opening fire on a car full of unarmed black teens is 'disturbing on a whole new level' (http://www.businessinsider.com/chicago-police-officer-taped-opening-fire-on-a-car-full-of-black-teens-2015-6)
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A video of a Chicago police officer appearing to open fire into a carload of unarmed teenagers troubled a former judge so greatly that he handed the video over to the media.
"I've seen lots of gruesome, grisly crimes," retired Cook County Judge Andrew Berman told Jonah Newman of the Chicago Reporter (http://chicagoreporter.com/video-chicago-cop-opens-fire-on-black-teens-in-car/). Berman, who was a judge in a criminal case against one of the teens, added, "But this is disturbing on a whole different level."
The December 2013 video, embedded below, shows Chicago police officer Marco Proano allegedly shooting more than a dozen rounds at the moving vehicle full of six minors, according to civil complaint filed against the city of Chicago and several officers. (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2105830-civil-lawsuit-complaint.html) The Reporter identified them as black.
None of them had a weapon or acted aggressively toward the officers, according to the complaint.
Proano hit one passenger in the shoulder and another in both hips, according to the complaint.
Prior to the incident, two other Chicago officers had stopped the car near 95th and LaSalle Street in Chicago's notoriously violent South Side. Moments later, one of the passengers took off running. Proano, who had just arrived at the scene, exited his patrol car and approached the car with his gun drawn sideways, according to the civil complaint filed on behalf of the teens (http://www.businessinsider.com/cms/posts/edit?id=55841c636da8115b7e0d63fa). When the car started to move in reverse, Proano allegedly began shooting.
The video is the crux of a federal lawsuit filed against Chicago and the three police officers on the teenagers' behalf. Pending approval from the City Council, it could end with a $360,000 payout for the victims.
While Proano didn't immediately respond to a request for comment from the Reporter, in a federal filing (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2105829-civil-lawsuit-marco-proanos-response-to-complaint.html) he admitted he was the officer who opened fire on the vehicle in question.
We reached out to a lawyer for Proano and will update this post if we hear back.
Proano has been assigned to desk duty but remains otherwise undisciplined and on the force, the Reporter reported. In the past four years, he has been cleared of six complaints against him, one of which included excessive force, according to the Reporter.
"He [Proano] shouldn't be allowed to be out there with a gun," Berman told the Reporter. "He has shown callous disregard for human life ... You don't start firing into a car full of unarmed people. You just don't do that."
Naravno, ovo je staro dve godine, ali video je tek sad obnarodovan...
http://youtu.be/0vMcBNd_8xQ (http://youtu.be/0vMcBNd_8xQ)
The Economist obrazlaže zašto najnovije masovno ubistvo u Čarlstonu verovatno neće dovesti do ozbiljnijih političkih promena u SAD. Pančlajn je brutalan.
The latest American mass killing (http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2015/06/charleston-massacre)
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WE DO not yet know why a gunman entered a church in Charleston, South Carolina on Wednesday and killed nine people at a prayer meeting, but in a sense it does not matter. One searches for reasons in order to assign responsibility and to devise solutions, but in this case no one will accept responsibility, and no solutions will be devised. One might blame radical ideology; given that the gunman, who police suspect is 21-year-old Dylann Roof, is white and the victims black, it seems probable that the motives were rooted in racial hatred. But no modern American party, movement or politician embraces explicit racism. While some exploit more subtle forms of racial resentment, none would admit to any link to a mass killer. A South Carolina branch of the Ku Klux Klan has been on a last-ditch recruitment drive (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/8/1/ku-klux-klan.html) to save itself from extinction, but one expects even the KKK would dissociate itself from violence these days.
The massacre, then (like those in Sandy Hook (http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21568764-if-even-slaughter-20-small-children-cannot-end-americas-infatuation-guns), Isla Vista, Aurora, and many others), will almost surely be blamed on the actions of a lone madman, who is now in the custody of police. This might, as with the Sandy Hook massacre, lead to support for legislation (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/06/03/can-mental-health-care-reform-help-stop-mass-killings/) to make the public mental-health system more proactive (and more coercive). But that legislation is controversial among mental-health practitioners, and has been bogged down in Congress. In any case, while better mental health is a good thing in itself, it is unlikely to have a reliable impact (http://www.psmag.com/health-and-behavior/actually-know-connections-mental-illness-mass-shootings-gun-violence-83103) in finding and stopping the small number of people who commit mass killings. The gunman's access to firearms was obviously a prerequisite for the killings. But it has become clear since Sandy Hook that meaningful gun control is politically impossible (http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/06/gun-control-america) in America. While certain forms of restrictions on gun ownership are popular, the power of lobbying organisations such as the National Rifle Association and the lock-step opposition of Republicans in Congress have blocked all moves towards legislation.
This political dynamic helps explain why the rise in mass killings in America has not led to any changes in policy. Such killings have become increasingly common (http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21586585-mass-shootings-are-up-gun-murders-down), even as the overall number of gun-related homicides has declined. Before yesterday, there had been 279 killings involving four or more victims since 2006, according to an excellent database compiled by USA Today (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/mass-killings/index.html). About five out of six such killings target family members, or involve the commission of another crime such as a burglary. The mass killing in Charleston appears to belong to the sub-category of "public killings": those, like the Sandy Hook massacre, in which the killer had no intimate personal relationship with the victims. In fact, 2015 has not been a particularly bad year for public killings: until yesterday there had been just one, in San Francisco, and police believe it was gang-related. (The biker brawl in Waco (http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21651761-yet-another-punch-up-made-fatal-lax-laws-wheels-chains-and-leather), Texas, which left nine people dead, is not classified as a public killing because the victims appeared to have known each other.)
The massacre in Charleston will certainly add to America's growing racial tensions. After a series of killings at the hands of white police officers and citizens in the past few years, African-Americans increasingly feel they are the victims of structural racist violence. One of the most egregious slayings took place in nearby North Charleston in April, when a police officer shot a fleeing African-American man eight times after pulling him over for a broken tail light. (The officer has been indicted for murder.) White Americans often refuse to accept that such violence is rooted in widespread racism; for African-Americans, the connection is obvious. Still, while racist killings by officers could be addressed by changes in jurisprudence or policing practices, it is harder to imagine how to tackle mass murder.
This is not to say that Wednesday's massacre in Charleston has had no political consequences at all. There has been one: Jeb Bush, the Republican presidential candidate, cancelled a rally in the city that had been planned for Thursday. It is interesting to contemplate how many victims a killing must claim before politicians feel they need to cancel a rally in the area, and what types of victims merit cancellation. Would Mr Bush have cancelled his rally after a gang-related killing? What about a terrorist attack? (For that matter, why are political murders such as the Boston Marathon bombing immediately labelled "terrorism", while the apparently political mass murder in Charleston is not?) Will mass killings someday be unremarkable enough in America that politicians feel comfortable ignoring them entirely?
The regularity of mass killings breeds familiarity. The rhythms of grief and outrage that accompany them become—for those not directly affected by tragedy—ritualised and then blend into the background noise. That normalisation makes it ever less likely that America's political system will groan into action to take steps to reduce their frequency or deadliness. Those who live in America, or visit it, might do best to regard them the way one regards air pollution in China: an endemic local health hazard which, for deep-rooted cultural, social, economic and political reasons, the country is incapable of addressing. This may, however, be a bit unfair. China seems to be making progress on pollution.
Naravno da je Kina u krivu. Ko ih gurnu da proizvode za Ameriku?
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 23-06-2015, 10:24:23
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WE DO not yet know why a gunman entered a church in Charleston, South Carolina on Wednesday and killed nine people at a prayer meeting
Ubica kaže da je ušao u crkvu "to shoot black people". Pitaju ga zašto, "to start a race war".
A i dalje se ponavlja priča da ne znaju zašto je on to uradio, to je samo luđak, nema to veze sa rasizmom, prosto je neshvatljivo zašto...
A da je verovatno da neće dovesti do ozbiljnijih političkih promena u SAD, verovatno je. Bar još neko vreme.
Pa, tekst je objavljen pre pet dana, kada se mnogi detalji nisu znali, izvinjavam se što sam ga ja tek sada vide, ne obilazim često The Economist. Najviše sam ga ovde okačio zbog tog zaključka da je prevalenca masovnih/ spree ubistava u SAD naprosto po percepciji mnogih, datost koja se ne može razumnim merama promeniti, kao u ovom, godinu dana starom Onionovom napisu:
'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens (http://www.theonion.com/article/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-36131)
QuoteISLA VISTA, CA—In the days following a violent rampage in southern California in which a lone attacker killed seven individuals, including himself, and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Tuesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. "This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there's nothing anyone can do to stop them," said North Carolina resident Samuel Wipper, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world's deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. "It's a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn't anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that's what he really wanted." At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past five years were referring to themselves and their situation as "helpless."
Pardon, nisam gledala datum članka.
Ja se izvinjavam na nejasnoći prouzrokovanoj publikovanjem relativno starog napisa.
Druga tema, ista zemlja: sve više mladih roditelja daje deci "rodno neutralna" imena jer ne žele da im se deca uklapaju u oveštale klišee. Korak napred ka istinskoj ravnopravnosti polova ili ka konačnom potonuću zapadne civilizacije? Istorija će pokazati.
The Baby Name Trend That's on the Rise (https://www.yahoo.com/parenting/the-baby-name-trend-thats-on-the-rise-122188015612.html)
QuoteGender-neutral baby names are racing up the list of popular monikers so far this year as, experts say, more parents are looking to break boy/girl stereotypes. (Photo: Getty Images)
Move over, Noah. You too, Emma. Though these monikers topped the Social Security list of most popular boy and girl names last year, 2015 is all about the rising popularity of unisex baby names, according to a new survey from BabyCenter (http://blogs.babycenter.com/mom_stories/proof-that-2015-is-20150622the-year-of-the-gender-neutral-baby/).
Declaring this "the year of the gender-neutral baby," BabyCenter (http://babycenter.com) reveals that names being used for both boys and girls are on the rise among the nearly 185,000 baby monikers registered at the site, compared with 2014. "Millennials are an open-minded and accepting group, and they don't want their children to feel pressured to conform to stereotypes that might be restrictive," Linda Murray, BabyCenter's editor in chief, writes in a statement sharing the 10 names rising fastest in popularity for both genders.
Amari is the winner so far, with a 56 percent increase for girls and 22 percent for boys compared with last year. On her (and his) heels: Karter, more popular with girls; Phoenix, used most often still for boys; Quinn, Reese, River, Rory, Rowan, Sawyer, and Taylor.
"Many parents want to transcend the old-fashioned feminine or masculine roles and image with names that have not traditionally been used for either boys or girls but can be used for both sexes," Nameberry (http://www.nameberry.com)'s Pamela Satran tells Yahoo Parenting. Calling out other hot goes-both-ways labels, such as Avery, Parker, Carson, Peyton, Jordan, and Emerson, Satran notes that the newly popular names are actually just a fresh iteration of an old trend.
"Gender-neutral names started to become popular in the 1960s with the new rise of feminism and liberal ideals," explains the baby name guru. "Back then, you saw names like Jamie, Jody, and Terry used for both sexes. And in the 1980s, the first generation of working mothers and parents focused on professional equality picked upwardly mobile, gender-neutral names such as Courtney and Morgan, often for their daughters, while boys' gender-neutral names went in the new 'cowboy' direction with Casey, Corey, and Jesse." This 2015 version of the unisex name trend, she says, "has to do more with an ideal of transcending gender stereotypes for children of both sexes."
What makes a moniker feminine or masculine (http://nameberry.com/unisex-names), anyway? "A lot of people say that Madison and Addison, two extremely popular names mostly for girls, are actually boys' names because they have the 'son' ending, which means 'son of,'" the expert adds. "But are they boys' names if they're used over 95 percent of the time for girls?" Fun fact: Leslie, Kelly, and Shannon were once used primarily for boys.
"The older generation may be taken aback by gender-neutral names and think a name should announce the child's gender," says Satran. "But individuals college age or younger are more comfortable with the idea that gender is a fluid concept and that a name with an indistinct gender identity is more than fine — it's preferable."
So when parents choose a gender-neutral name for their child, they may do so to make a statement in support of such fluidity, much like refusing to dress their kids in pink or blue. But Satran cautions that kids "often strongly identify with hyper feminine or masculine roles and objects no matter what you do." And she should know. "My daughter's name is Rory, and I dressed her in denim overalls when she was little," confesses Satran. "But she insisted on wearing them with red patent leather shoes and a tutu."
uopšte me ne čudi,
a i voren biti se sigurno raduje ovakvim vestima.
American recycling is stalling, and the big blue bin is one reason why (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/american-recycling-is-stalling-and-the-big-blue-bin-is-one-reason-why/2015/06/20/914735e4-1610-11e5-9ddc-e3353542100c_story.html?hpid=z3)
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Tucked in the woods 30 miles north of Washington is a plant packed with energy-guzzling machines that can make even an environmentalist's heart sing — giant conveyor belts, sorters and crushers saving a thousand tons of paper, plastic and other recyclables from reaching landfills each day.
The 24-hour operation is a sign that after three decades of trying, a culture of curbside recycling has become ingrained in cities and counties across the country. Happy Valley, however, it is not.
Once a profitable business for cities and private employers alike, recycling in recent years has become a money-sucking enterprise. The District, Baltimore and many counties in between are contributing millions annually to prop up one of the nation's busiest facilities here in Elkridge, Md. — but it is still losing money. In fact, almost every facility like it in the country is running in the red. And Waste Management and other recyclers say that more than 2,000 municipalities are paying to dispose of their recyclables instead of the other way around.
In short, the business of American recycling has stalled. And industry leaders warn that the situation is worse than it appears.
"If people feel that recycling is important — and I think they do, increasingly — then we are talking about a nationwide crisis," said David Steiner, chief executive of Waste Management, the nation's largest recycler that owns the Elkridge plant and 50 others.
The Houston-based company's recycling division posted a loss of nearly $16 million in the first quarter of the year. In recent months, it has shut nearly one in 10 of its biggest recycling facilities. An even larger percentage of its plants may go dark in the next 12 months, Steiner said.
The problems of recycling in America are both global and local. A storm of falling oil prices, a strong dollar and a weakened economy in China have sent prices for American recyclables plummeting worldwide.
Environmentalists and other die-hard conservation advocates question if the industry is overstating a cyclical slump.
"If you look at the long-term trends, there is no doubt that the markets for most recyclables have matured and that the economics of recycling, although it varies, has generally been moving in the right direction," said Eric A. Goldstein, a lawyer with the Natural Resources Defense Council who tracks solid waste and recycling in New York.
"And that's without factoring in the external impact of landfilling or anything else," he added. "There aren't a lot of people saying, 'Send more material to landfills.' "
Still, the numbers speak for themselves: a three-year trend of shrinking profits and rising costs for U.S. municipalities — and little evidence that they are a blip.
Trying to encourage conservation, progressive lawmakers and environmentalists have made matters worse. By pushing to increase recycling rates with bigger and bigger bins — while demanding almost no sorting by consumers — the recycling stream has become increasingly polluted and less valuable, imperiling the economics of the whole system.
"We kind of got everyone thinking that recycling was free," said Bill Moore, a leading industry consultant on paper recycling who is based in Atlanta. "It's never really been free, and in fact, it's getting more expensive."
The problem with blue bins Many of the problems facing the industry can be traced to the curbside blue bin — and the old saying that if it sounds too good to be true, it just might be. Anyone who has ever tossed a can into a bin knows what's supposed to happen: Anything recyclable can go in, and then somehow, magically, it's all separated and reused.
The idea originated in California in the 1990s. Environmental advocates believed that the only way to increase participation in recycling programs was to make it easier. Sorting took time and was messy. No one liked it. So-called Material Recovery Facilities, or MRFs, were created to do what consumers wouldn't.
With conveyers, spinning flywheels, magnets and contraptions that look like giant Erector Sets, companies found that they could recycle almost everything at once. Lightweight newspaper and cardboard were sent tumbling upward, as if in a clothes dryer. Glass, plastic and metal fell into a series of belts and screens. Automation was adopted to sort, bale and send to manufacturers all those tons of paper, bottles and cans.
From the start, it was hard to argue that glass should have been allowed in the curbside mix. It's the heaviest of recyclables but has always been of marginal value as a commodity. In the rough-and-tumble sorting facilities, a large share of it breaks and contaminates valuable bales of paper, plastic and other materials.
Today, more than a third of all glass sent to recycling facilities ends up crushed. It is trucked to landfills as daily cover to bury the smell and trap gases. The rest has almost no value to recyclers and can often cost them to haul away.
In recent years, the problem of contamination has spread beyond glass. The problem was exacerbated when municipalities began increasing the size of bins, believing that bigger was better to keep more material from landfills.
Consumers have indeed been filling the bigger bins, but often with as much garbage as recyclable material.
With the extra room, residents stopped breaking down cardboard boxes. Because a full shipping box sometimes fits inside, even with foam and plastic wrap attached, all of it more frequently shows up at sorting facilities.
Residents have also begun experimenting, perhaps with good intentions, tossing into recycling bins almost anything rubber, metal or plastic: garden hoses, clothes hangers, shopping bags, shoes, Christmas lights.
That was exactly the case last year, when the District replaced residents' 32-gallon bins with ones that are 50 percent larger.
[D.C. said it was recycling — it wasn't. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/pictures-show-dc-may-have-dumped-trash-cans-that-it-said-were-being-recycled/2014/05/20/1f4c2a24-df9a-11e3-810f-764fe508b82d_story.html)]
"Residue jumped a ton," said Hallie Clemm, deputy administrator for the city's solid waste management division. In fact, so much nonrecyclable material was being stuffed into the bins that after an audit by Waste Management last fall, the share of the city's profit for selling recyclables plummeted by more than 50 percent.
That has driven up the city's processing price for recyclables to almost $63 a ton — 24 percent higher than if it trucked all of its recycling material, along with its trash, to a Virginia incinerator.
The D.C. Council recently approved a payment of $1.2 million to Waste Management for the contract year that ended in May. In 2011, the city made a profit of $389,000.
Little demand for newsprint A large part of the problem for recyclers is falling global commodity prices — a phenomenon largely out of recyclers' hands. But the negative impact of that trend is amplified by the contents of most recycling bins, because the composite of what Americans try to reuse has changed dramatically over the past decade.
Dwindling have been the once-profitable old newspapers, thick plastic bottles and aluminum cans that could be easily baled and reused.
With oil prices driving up transportation costs, manufacturers have engaged in a race to make packaging more lightweight. Coffee cans disappeared in favor of vacuum-packed aluminum bags; some tuna cans went the same way. Tin cans and plastic water bottles became thinner, too: The amount of plastic that once came from 22 bottles now requires 36.
There was an even more pronounced drop in newsprint. Long a lucrative recycling commodity, it's not a key commodity market. In its place is something known as mixed residential paper: the junk mail, flattened cereal boxes and other paper items that these days can outweigh newspaper in a one-ton bale.
One bright spot has been an increase in cardboard. Analysts say that with more people buying items through online merchants, cardboard can account for up to 15 percent of cities' recyclable loads — more than double that of a decade ago.
The demand for that paper and cardboard, however, remains at a near-decade low. In China, containerboard, a common packaging product from recycled American paper, is trading at just over $400 a metric ton, down from nearly $1,000 in 2010. China also needs less recycled newsprint; the last paper mill in Shanghai closed this year.
[China doesn't even want to buy our garbage anymore (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/05/09/chinas-crackdown-on-trash-could-make-it-harder-for-u-s-cities-to-recycle/)]
With less demand, Chinese companies have become pickier about the quality.
Last week in Elkridge, an inspector from a Chinese company studied bales of paper being loaded into shipping containers bound for the port of Baltimore and, eventually, Asia.
If the inspector found more than five nonpaper items protruding from any one side of the bale, it was rejected, forcing workers to break down the material and send it all back through the processing facility.
The lightweight vacuum packs for food and paper-thin plastic bottles are increasingly part of the problem. They are so light that they get blown upward with the paper.
"We've seen economic downturns in the value of material in the past, but what's different now is that the material mix has changed," said Patty Moore, head of California-based Moore Recycling Associates, which specializes in plastic recycling. "The problem is, to get the same value out of your scrap, you have to shove a whole lot more material through the facility. That was fine when scrap values were high, but when they dropped, we realized it's expensive to push all of this lightweight stuff through, and we're in trouble."
Brent Bell, Waste Management's vice president for recycling, said the company has yet to see municipalities abandon recycling, and the company is maintaining its ability to recycle whatever cities send their way. But it is downsizing its operation and expecting little increase in recycling rates nationwide.
Last week, the Environmental Protection Agency announced a nationwide tally for recycling in 2013 that showed overall recycling had contracted for a second straight year, to 34.3 percent of the waste stream.
With those trends, Bell said the company is beginning tough discussions with cities about what it sees as a long-term economic reality: Cities must bear more of the financial impact of falling commodity prices. That's the only way, Bell said, for recyclers like his company to invest in the business.
Steiner, Waste Management's chief executive, went further. "We want to help our customers, but we are a for-profit business. We won't stay in the industry if we can't make a profit," he said.
Clemm, the District's recycling chief, said small efforts can begin to turn the tide. The District must begin by getting more garbage out of its recycling stream.
"Residents have a way to influence this by making sure they are recycling right," she said.
Another possibility is to follow the urgings of the environmental community by expanding recycling programs to include composting — the banana peels and grass clippings degrading in landfills that by some estimates have become the nation's third-biggest source of methane gas contributing to global warming. Composting is partly credited with the success of such cities as San Francisco, Portland and Seattle in increasing the share of the waste stream that is recycled each year.
There are also a few encouraging signs downstream in the recycling market. A recycled-plastics company in Troy, Ala., processes more than 500 million pounds of recycled material annually from plastic bottles — and with 450 employees, the company is growing. In the Midwest, another company opened two additional facilities this month to feed an Indiana paper mill that churns out 100 percent recycled cardboard.
Turning a profit on the initial, dirty task of sorting and processing the nation's recyclables, however, may take a larger overhaul, said Patty Moore. Governments may need to set standards or even consider taking over part of the process to better encourage investment and ensure that profits remain a public benefit.
"If we're going to be serious about secondary-materials management, we're really going to have to address it as a state or preferably national level," she said. "We need to harmonize what we're doing and make it work in a way that we're not spending all this money and spinning our wheels."
Nisam čitao, ali risajkling je jedan od zdravih principa u SAD.
Evo još nečeg za nečitanje. :lol:
Posle masakra u Čarlstonu i činjenice da se njegov počinilac rado slikao ispred, znate već, ratne zastave vojske Severne Virdžinije (ono što se kolokvijalno zove Konfederalnom zastavom ili, kako je mi zovemo još kolokvijalnije, južnjačkom zastavom), u Americi je na delu određeni bekleš protiv ove zastave i njenog isticanja koji je neobično sličan napetostima između, jelte, tih nekih drugih i prvih i trećih Srbija ovde kod nas. Recimo, ovaj tekst sa mediuma je bio kopiran na sto mesta, na Hafington postu između ostalog i mogao bi se uporediti sa stvarima koje ovde publikuju Peščanik i e-novine :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes, you're a racist... and a traitor. (https://medium.com/@thejohnprice/yes-you-re-a-racist-and-a-traitor-6c4bb12c5b63)
Istovremeno, Apple, taj Bastion opreznog puritanskog, politički korektnog ophođenja je sa svog AppSttorea sklonio gomilu igara u kojima se vidi ova zastava (http://kotaku.com/apple-yanks-games-with-confederate-flags-from-app-store-1713885047), uz obrazloženje "We are writing to notify you that your app has been removed from the App Store because it includes images of the Confederate flag used in offensive and mean-spirited ways.", koje je prilično bizarno imajući na umu da su u pitanju strateške igre koje se događaju u vreme američkog građanskog rata i samo koriste korektne simbole u odnosu na istorijski period koji predstavljaju. Mislim, "offensive i mean spirited" nije način da se to opiše.
Interesantna gibanja u USA, gde građanoidi, kako ih ovde pogrdno zovemo, sad navaljuju na jedan od važnijih simvola starinskog nacionalizma...
Mislim, ova igra vam omogućava da se derete na zastavu dok ne izgori:
http://molleindustria.org/booFlag/ (http://molleindustria.org/booFlag/)
Da, ja kao što iznade rekoh pratim to preko Gibsona. Maltene je samo o zastavi tvitovao poslednjih nedelju dana (on je, da podsetimo, rođen u Južnoj Karolini a odrastao u Virdžiniji).
Evo jednog Hičensovog teksta od pre nekoliko godina:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2008/01/hucks_free_pass.html?wpsrc=fol_fb (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2008/01/hucks_free_pass.html?wpsrc=fol_fb)
I jedne lepe priče:
https://www.graywolfpress.org/blogs/appropriation-cultures-percival-everett (https://www.graywolfpress.org/blogs/appropriation-cultures-percival-everett)
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Who Owns Your Overtime? (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/22/opinion/who-owns-your-overtime.html?_r=0)
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A LITTLE-NOTICED but important change in the American workplace is about to occur. Sometime in the next month, the Department of Labor is expected to announce an adjustment to the Fair Labor Standards Act. The change will raise the salary threshold for overtime. Currently, if you are a salaried employee and make less than $23,660 per year, you are eligible for time and a half pay for any hours over 40 per week. The update, which is likely to at least double that threshold, will affect millions of salaried employees.
In 1975, the last year the threshold was significantly raised, 60 percent of salaried workers fell within the requirement for overtime pay. Today, only 8 percent do, according to statistics compiled by the Economic Policy Institute. Under the new rule, millions of workers will be reclassified. Businesspeople oppose the change, calling it a job killer. Supporters anticipate a positive effect on job creation, income inequality and wage stagnation.
But this change also speaks to a subject I have been concerned with for many years: the clash between the finite amount of time employees actually have versus the desire of employers to treat time as an inexhaustible resource. And this issue affects everyone, whether eligible for overtime or not.
For over two decades I was a business consultant, advising companies trying to adjust to increased numbers of women and working parents in their work forces. Many significant changes occurred during this period: the introduction of flextime, new child care provisions, the increased ability to work from home. But the one change that always seemed to get in the way of other improvements was and still is the growing demand for longer working hours.
Employees in the United States currently work more hours than workers in any of the world's 10 largest economies except Russia (though we don't have good data for China). When everything over 40 hours is free to the employer, the temptation to demand more is almost irresistible. But for most employees, the ones exempt from overtime rules, their managers have little incentive to look for ways to use their time more efficiently.
It's not just a question of getting paid fairly for every hour you work. It's about using the time well. What I've learned is that an overwhelming majority of employees do not resent spending time that is clearly directed toward customers or the success of the enterprise. What they resent is time spent on work that is of no clear value: time wasted, or mismanaged. Countless parents, for example, told me that they had sat through poorly planned and seemingly pointless meetings at day's end while thinking about their baby, feeling that their precious parenting time was being usurped by a feckless manager.
Others talked about memos, emails and work that goes nowhere. We encountered endless stories of parents being told that a last-minute task was urgent and needed to be done immediately, no matter how many extra hours it took, only to have any action related to it languish for weeks. Companies I worked with tried to reduce unnecessary work by devising "quality programs" and restructuring initiatives. But employees rarely felt any time relief from these efforts. Since there was no added cost for longer hours, the incentives were just not there to reduce total time worked, even after needless or less productive tasks were eliminated.
I once did a small study for a Fortune 10 company in which I talked to about 20 employees who were allowed to work four days a week and keep their jobs and benefits. These women (yes, all women) still had to meet all their previous responsibilities, for 80 percent of their previous salaries. I expected some anger and resentment, but they turned out to be some of the happiest employees I ever talked to. They told me that it was much easier to back out of meetings or work that they knew would be a waste of time. They loved being able to focus on the things that really mattered.
We are a tired, stressed and overworked nation, which has many negative consequences for our personal health and the care of our children. As a nation, we work harder and longer than almost all of our competitors, and much of that work is uncompensated. We accept that that is the way it has to be, without much questioning.
This summer's change in overtime rules can be an opening round in a long-overdue examination of how our finite time is used and compensated. It's also very likely that workplaces will, by necessity, become more efficient and well managed as companies strive to avoid paying overtime. And even when long hours are truly necessary, more employees will be fairly compensated. Working parents who qualify stand to benefit from fewer hours at work, without giving up income.
Time is our personal currency. We parcel it out, hour by hour, to meet the demands placed on us. We all pay a steep price, as individuals and as a nation, when we can't meet our most important obligations. Having employers pay more for the time they demand of lower- and middle-income workers is a good way to help us focus on these larger questions.
Uzeti sa dosta soli.
Pa, da, oni vole da pričaju da rade najviše od svih na svetu. Naravno, to ne mora da bude ni približno istini, recimo, na ovom spisku (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/11-countries-with-the-longest-working-hours_n_1543145.html)ih nema u prvih deset a "lenji" Grci su na trećem mestu... Tako da, da, dosta soli konzumirati uz ovaj tekst.
Mene ne iznenađuje šta oni pišu. Više me iznenadi da ti to prenosiš. Posebno ako vrlo dobro znaš koliko sam vremena proveo u SAD i koliko sam dobar posmatrač.
Nevezano za tvoje posmatračke skilove kao i za američki percepciju toga da li su overworked i stressed više nego drugi, ovaj tekst svakako daje zanimljive informacije. Barem meni. Ako se forum pobuni na primetan način, dakle, kroz više usta od jednih ili dvoja, neću više kačiti ovakve tekstove :lol:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-shapiro/the-political-lessons-we_b_7662296.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-shapiro/the-political-lessons-we_b_7662296.html)
Da, video sam taj tekst jutros i razmišljao da li da ga okačim ovde ali mi je delovao suviše kao nešto što je platila neka lobistička grupa/ pr agencija...
platila ne platila, ovo je najontopičniji tekst ikad :)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 26-06-2015, 11:58:58
Nevezano za tvoje posmatračke skilove kao i za američki percepciju toga da li su overworked i stressed više nego drugi, ovaj tekst svakako daje zanimljive informacije. Barem meni. Ako se forum pobuni na primetan način, dakle, kroz više usta od jednih ili dvoja, neću više kačiti ovakve tekstove :lol:
Nemam ja ništa protiv da kačiš šta ti volja, ali, bre, ništa ne pitaš da proveriš.
Pa, sad, komplikovano bi to bilo da svaki tekst koji bi da kačim prvo pošaljem na odobrenje. Lakše ovako - okačim, pa se već javiš ti ili neko drugi upućen da kaže "Nije baš tako, evo kako je zaista" itd. To je dobro jer podstiče na dijalog!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Pizzobatto on 26-06-2015, 12:13:41
platila ne platila, ovo je najontopičniji tekst ikad :)
Hahah, da, kad se Amerika ovako izrazi o Vučiću, zabrineš se za Ameriku. :lol:
Ali Vučić sarađuje. Zašto ga i ne bi pohvalili? Eh, samo da nema Kosova...
Ma, nek ga hvale, al umereno, da se ne uznese. A vidi ovo:
QuoteHis actions quickly paid off, and the results have been stellar.
Vucic resisted claims from special interest groups asking for exceptions to his economic plan. Supplicants left his office surprised, because he treated the government treasury frugally, "as if it were his own," and not merely taxpayer money.
ovo je u najboljem slučaju jedna vrlo našminkana verzija realnosti :lol:
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 26-06-2015, 12:21:16
Pa, sad, komplikovano bi to bilo da svaki tekst koji bi da kačim prvo pošaljem na odobrenje.
Ovakav stav me brine. Uostalom, zato ti treniram ganglije. Ko ti traži da tražiš odobrenje? Možeš da pitaš da li je stvarno tako kako piše u linku koji si postavio. Ispada da Ameri čeznu za rintanjem. Ustvari, crkoše od stra' da ne izgube posao ili da neće imati sredstava da školuju decu kako treba ili da neće moće da ostvare bezbedno okruženje za porodicu. Da ne govorim o onima koji od delimičnog radnog vremena ne mogu da žive, pa srljaju u drugo i treće radno mesto da namire kolko-tolko.
Ja sam tekst okačio prevashodno zato jer se u njemu raspravlja o ovome: "It's not just a question of getting paid fairly for every hour you work. It's about using the time well. What I've learned is that an overwhelming majority of employees do not resent spending time that is clearly directed toward customers or the success of the enterprise. What they resent is time spent on work that is of no clear value: time wasted, or mismanaged. Countless parents, for example, told me that they had sat through poorly planned and seemingly pointless meetings at day's end while thinking about their baby, feeling that their precious parenting time was being usurped by a feckless manager.
Others talked about memos, emails and work that goes nowhere. We encountered endless stories of parents being told that a last-minute task was urgent and needed to be done immediately, no matter how many extra hours it took, only to have any action related to it languish for weeks. " što je situacija sa kojom je i dobar broj nas prilično familijaran. I ovo je takođe delovalo kao bitno: "I once did a small study for a Fortune 10 company in which I talked to about 20 employees who were allowed to work four days a week and keep their jobs and benefits. These women (yes, all women) still had to meet all their previous responsibilities, for 80 percent of their previous salaries. I expected some anger and resentment, but they turned out to be some of the happiest employees I ever talked to. They told me that it was much easier to back out of meetings or work that they knew would be a waste of time. They loved being able to focus on the things that really mattered."
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 26-06-2015, 13:10:25
"I once did a small study for a Fortune 10 company in which I talked to about 20 employees who were allowed to work four days a week and keep their jobs and benefits. These women (yes, all women) still had to meet all their previous responsibilities, for 80 percent of their previous salaries. I expected some anger and resentment, but they turned out to be some of the happiest employees I ever talked to. They told me that it was much easier to back out of meetings or work that they knew would be a waste of time. They loved being able to focus on the things that really mattered."
Naravno da sam i ja to pročitao. Ali, to je besmislena laž. Video si da se ne pominje zarada, nego samo posao i benefiti. Za 80% plate. Postoji trenutak kad se ni to ne "isplati". Onda se srlja za drugim poslom, za trećim, a porodica nek se jebe. Dobro im je jer nije pređena granica.
Pa, ne znam dal' je laž... Poenta koju on pokušava da napravi je da poslodavci često ležerno raspolažu vremenom zaposlenog i poistovećuju vreme provedeno na poslu sa obavljenim stvarnim poslom iako to nije isto, a što je upravo situacija u kojoj sam ja sada.
To je jednostavno. Poslodavci testiraju zavisnost zaposlenih. Tako im ubijaju volju za više.
Ili, uopšte, ubijaju im volju generalno :lol: Fala bogu Bobanu da bar imam Sagitu.
Ni Boban se ne ponaša drugačije. Zloupotrebljava poziciju i polako gubi odgovorne učesnike. Koj će mu ako ne misle kao on?
Ma, imajući na umu da su danas forumi komunikacioni medij iz nekog drugog vremena, da je sve preuzeo fejsbuk/ tviter itd., svakačast da Sagita i dalje postoji.
To je pitanje za raspravu i niko nije voljan da ga pokrene. Jutros su me pitali koj će mi kojmoj ZS ako se postavlja neprijateljski prema meni. Imao sam slab izbor odgovora. Jedini je da ne smem da dopustim da loše u ljudima prevlada, jer ću i ja za to biti odgovoran. Ispada da branim ZS iako to forumu nije važno. Videćemo dokle ću imati nerava.
Quote from: scallop on 26-06-2015, 14:03:49
Jedini je da ne smem da dopustim da loše u ljudima prevlada, jer ću i ja za to biti odgovoran.
Pa, to je sasvim korektan i razuman odgovor. E, sad, kolko ćeš imati nerava, to je svakako bitno znati - ne treba čovek da pogubi zdravlje da bi drugima ukazao pravi put.
Ne brini. Najvažnije je da sam nezavisan.
http://boingboing.net/2015/06/26/president-obama-delivers-eulog.html (http://boingboing.net/2015/06/26/president-obama-delivers-eulog.html)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/26/supreme-court-gay-marriage_n_7470036.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/26/supreme-court-gay-marriage_n_7470036.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIdH3XkWcAAl0Mq.jpg)
http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/my-terrorist-my-freedom-fighter-white-terrorism-in-american-cinema-398 (http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/my-terrorist-my-freedom-fighter-white-terrorism-in-american-cinema-398)
Vajs kad je dobar.
God is not on our side: The religious right's big lie about the founding of America (http://www.salon.com/2015/06/28/god_is_not_on_our_side_the_religious_rights_big_lie_about_the_founding_of_america/)
http://www.citylab.com/housing/2015/07/mapping-the-us-by-property-value-instead-of-land-area/397841/ (http://www.citylab.com/housing/2015/07/mapping-the-us-by-property-value-instead-of-land-area/397841/)
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CJcW0-EUYAIgEkZ.mp4 (https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CJcW0-EUYAIgEkZ.mp4)
Islamistički ekstremizam u Tenesiju, čovek napao vojnu bazu, pet ubijenih, uključujući počinioca:
Shootings at Chattanooga military facilities leave 4 Marines, gunman dead; act called 'domestic terrorism' (http://news.yahoo.com/chattanooga-active-shooter-officer-down-live-coverage-154953657.html#)
US military shooter from 'average Chattanooga family' (http://news.yahoo.com/us-military-shooter-average-chattanooga-family-235448506.html)
Ako ih ne sahrane islamski ekstremisti & teroristi, sahraniće ih genecki modifikovana hrana:
U.S. House committee approves anti-GMO labeling law (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/14/us-usa-gmo-labeling-idUSKCN0PO2MM20150714)
QuoteU.S. food companies and other opponents of genetically modified food labeling notched a key victory on Tuesday as the House Agriculture Committee approved a measure banning mandatory labeling as well as local efforts to regulate genetically engineered crops.The move demonstrates fresh momentum for those seeking to block mandated labeling of foods made with GMO crops, food industry advocates said. "This... legislation will ensure that Americans have accurate, consistent information about their food rather than a 50 state patchwork of labeling laws that will only prove costly and confusing for consumers, farmers and food manufacturers," said Pamela Bailey, CEO of the Grocery Manufacturers Association (GMA), said in a statement.The group called on the full House of Representatives to pass the measure, which the panel approved in a voice vote, before the August recess. Groups lobbying for mandatory GMO labeling said they are increasing their efforts to make sure that H.R. 1599, dubbed the Safe and Accurate Food Labeling Act, never becomes law. "The real fight will be in the Senate," said Scott Faber, executive director of Just Label It, an advocacy group pushing for mandated labeling. "This is from over."They say the bill is objectionable not only because it would overturn state GMO labeling laws, but because it also prevents state and local governments from regulating GMO crops, and would keep the U.S. Food and Drug Administration from creating a mandatory GMO labeling standard. "Those states like mine, Maine, which has already passed a law that requires GMO labeling... we would be prohibited from doing it," U.S. Rep Chellie Pingree, a GMO labeling supporter, said in a conference call with reporters.The debate over GMO labeling has heated up in recent years and several food-related companies have removed GMO ingredients from their products. Labeling supporters say consumers have a right to know if GMOs are in their food. They cite a lack of scientific consensus on safety and concerns about the herbicide glyphosate, which is widely used on genetically modified crops. Residues of the pesticide have been detected in foods, and a World Health Organization research unit earlier this year said it was classifying glyphosate as "probably" cancer-causing for humans.Opponents say mandatory labeling would raise food prices, confuse consumers without cause as GMOs are well regulated and are no less safe or nutritious than foods made with non-GMO ingredients.
Bilk Klinton: deo problema umesto deo rešenja.
Bill Clinton: I Made Criminal Justice 'Worse' (http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/07/15/clinton-i-made-criminal-justice-worse.html?via=mobile&source=twitter)
QuoteBill Clinton said at a NAACP meeting in Philadelphia on Wednesday that he made a mistake by signing the 1994 Violent Crime Control Act that lengthened federal sentences for many crimes. "I signed a bill that made the problem worse. And I want to admit it," he said. Clinton sounded a lot different when he signed the bill: "Gangs and drugs have taken over our streets and undermined our schools. Every day, we read about somebody else who has literally gotten away with murder." The act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act), co-written by Joe Biden, promised greater federal funding for states if they enacted stricter sentencing laws for violent offenses. In addition, it provided money for extra prisons, funding for 100,000 police, cut higher education assistance for inmates, and created 60 new death penalty offenses. Finally, the bill created the Violence Against Women Act and banned the sale of assault weapons.
Louisiana: 3 Dead in movie Theater shooting, Including Gunman (http://www.wsj.com/articles/louisiana-theater-shooting-leaves-two-dead-including-gunman-1437704253?ru=yahoo?mod=yahoo_itp)
Jedan kritički pogled na silikonsku dolinu (to za slučaj da niste gledali istoimenu serija Majka Džadža) i mitove o libertarijanskom raju za startap biznis:
Startups And The Big Lie (http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/25/startups-and-the-big-lie/#.r3fic7:bO3Q)
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A startup is hemorrhaging cash, and the VCs have yet to agree on terms for a capital infusion. The clock is ticking until deadpool, first weeks away then days. The founders, stress levels increasing to stratospheric levels, continue to sell their company to everyone, whether investors, employees, potential employees, or clients.
They have little choice. Funding is contingent on growth, but that growth can only happen if no one really understands the funding situation. Founders have to tell the lie – that everything is fine, that a feature is going to launch even though the engineer for that feature hasn't been hired yet, that payroll will run even though the VC dollars are still nowhere on the horizon.
Lying is a requisite and daily part of being a founder, the grease that keeps the startup flywheel running. No one likes to put it that way of course. Instead, we use phrases like "hustling" and "fake it until you make it" to make the idea of lying more palatable. "Information control" is among the most important skills a founder has traditionally needed for success, and these euphemisms change nothing of the daily behavior.
But times are changing, and everyone is getting more sophisticated about startups. People know what questions to ask, and are not afraid to aggressively probe to get the answers they seek. That means that some of the key myths about success in Silicon Valley are at risk. We need a new transparent approach toward information, but we also need to understand that startups are inherently risky – and accept the lies as they come.
The Ignorance Bubble Startups run on an alchemy of ignorance and amnesia that is incredibly important to experimentation. Most startups fail. The vast, vast majority of startup employees will never exercise their options, let alone become millionaires while doing it. Mathematically, talented individuals are certainly better off financially going into a profession or working at a large tech company, where pay is higher and more secure.
That's not a lot of fun, though, is it? For one of the most hyper-rational populations in the world, Silicon Valley runs off a myth about startup success, of the lowly founder conquering the world. There are examples of this success obviously, but the probability distribution clearly shows that the company you start will almost certainly end up in the graveyard of bad ideas. Yet, we focus almost exclusively on the successes and not the failures, because that is the model of what we want to become.
This is Silicon Valley's Big Lie.
Lying is inevitable in our industry – it's unbelievable that founders can take a company from a few users to billions, and yet, it happens. Without a fake veneer of confidence, no sales would get done, and we would still be stuck with the tech of the 1970s. Hubris is in many ways a necessary quality to get a startup into orbit.
Unfortunately, this sort of lying isn't as easy as it used to be. Gone are the days where sales targets and employees wouldn't really understand the status of a startup venture firm or what questions to ask. Salespeople these days are peppered with questions about venture capital rounds and company stability, leading founders to try to legitimize as quickly as possible through fundraising (http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/26/you-need-to-be-a-billion-just-to-make-a-million/).
As my colleague Connie Loizos wrote last weekend, employees are now asking questions about liquidation preferences and participating preferred shares (http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/17/employees-wise-up/) before joining a company, forcing founders to confront the very real possibility that they can no longer just use a dose of confidence to get them out of that chicken-and-egg growth problem. People want to read the damn term sheets!
We have pierced the ignorance bubble, but that is leading to a whole new set of challenges. When people know more about a topic, they become more critical. Yet, focusing on the liquidation preferences misses the whole point about startups: it's the process of believing that turns two people and a laptop into a global powerhouse. Our Declining Infrastructure For Massive Succeess People are getting smarter in part because they have to. The infrastructure for success for employees in Silicon Valley is becoming increasingly damaged. Not so long ago, if you joined a startup in the early years and it sold for north of a billion dollars, you might not be able buy an island and retire, but you at least could be assured of a beautiful home in South Bay and enough left over to maybe start your own experiment.
Today, a confluence of events imperils that dream. Valuations are spiking much earlier these days (http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/10/the-logic-of-crazy-valuations/), which means that employees are getting their equity at much higher valuations than they have in the past. When a company is already a unicorn in its early years, there just is not that much additional room to grow in valuation to create the sort of millionaire factory that Google and Facebook's early employees enjoyed.
It gets worse though. As Aileen Lee noted in her update on unicorns last weekend (http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/18/welcome-to-the-unicorn-club-2015-learning-from-billion-dollar-companies/#.jaimrz:aXNI), the average capital efficiency of startups has markedly decreased in the past year. That doesn't bode well for employees. Companies are avoiding the public markets by raising increasing levels of private capital, diluting employee equity. Plus, the liquidation preferences really do stack up, limiting the potential upside in a decent but not spectacular exit.
Finally, even when an employee does get early options and the company's valuation zooms upward, they often get screwed by a Faustian bargain that requires them to pay taxes on their options even though they can't exercise them to get the necessary cash. Uber is just one example of a company that has taken a hardball approach to its employees (http://fortune.com/2014/06/20/uber-plays-hardball-with-early-shareholders/) selling early in this manner.
Startup employees are seeing all of this in the market right now. They have friends who have been burned by startups, and the dense professional networks ensure that the most obscene cases travel quickly in the ecosystem. Our collective ignorance about startups and their financials is catching up with us, and we are solving it with cold, hard logic and a dose of realism if not cynicism.
Rebuilding Faith Through Transparency We no longer live in a world where people lack the basic vocabulary to understand the health of a startup. There are so many panels, seminars, events, and info sessions describing what is going on, that we as a region have made people far more savvy consumers of startups. Every founder and investor is now facing a much more informed population, who are more than willing to cut off a negotiation if the numbers aren't where they want them.
More transparency is the only way forward. Founders can't expect to hide the term sheets and their liquidation preferences from employees who ask. The best startups won't fear telling potential employees, and so the the answer to the question will simply become a screen on the health of a business. Informed employees have a right to know what they are getting into.
However, we still need that Big Lie to function. We still need to dream about the possibility of success in order to realize it. With greater transparency comes a responsibility on the part of everyone in the startup ecosystem to understand and empathize with the plight of founders trying to build their companies.
There is almost always a chicken-and-egg problem when starting a business. The very act of hiring an engineer may be just the last push needed to get a fundraising round done and secure the next few months for a startup. We can rationalize startups all we want, and read the cap table and preferences and run exit scenarios. But at the end of the day, we all have to believe in the success of a business in order for it to become true. Success is built, not modeled.
We used to do that by default through ignorance, but now we need to consciously commit to that through faith. That means we need to accept the overconfidence of a founder, even when the math isn't completely adding up. We can now detect the lies better than ever, but now we might just have to lie to ourselves if we want to see startups succeed.
Darren Wilson opens up a year after Michael Brown's death (http://news.yahoo.com/darren-wilson-ferguson-new-yorker-interview-135312521.html)
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A year after fatally shooting Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager, in Ferguson, Mo., Darren Wilson says he and his wife and baby daughter have to be careful when they go out. "We try to go somewhere — how do I say this correctly? — with like-minded individuals," Wilson told the New Yorker for an extensive profile published online Monday (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/the-cop). "You know. Where it's not a mixing pot."
The 29-year-old former Ferguson police officer, who received death threats following the 18-year-old's death on Aug. 9, 2014, lives in relative seclusion on the outskirts of St. Louis.
Wilson, who was not indicted in Brown's killing, told the magazine's Jake Halpern he hadn't reflected much on who Brown was because he had been preoccupied with the waves of protests in Ferguson and the civil lawsuit Brown's parents filed against him in May.
"You do realize that his parents are suing me?" Wilson said. "So I have to think about him."
He added: "Do I think about who he was as a person? Not really, because it doesn't matter at this point. Do I think he had the best upbringing? No. Not at all."
Later, Wilson was asked if he thought Brown was a "bad guy," or "just a kid who had got himself into a bad situation."
"I only knew him for those forty-five seconds in which he was trying to kill me," Wilson said. "So I don't know."
Halpern also detailed some of Wilson's and his wife's thoughts in the immediate aftermath of the shooting:
At the Ferguson police station, Barb Wilson wondered why her husband hadn't showed up for lunch. Then, she told me, "he just walked in and was, like, 'I just killed somebody.'" Barb noticed that Wilson's "face was flushed and red — it didn't look right." She decided that he needed space and, not knowing what else to do, took care of some paperwork. Wilson went to the hospital with his superiors, and debriefed them while he was examined for injuries. He returned to the station, and he and Barb headed home.
"Neither one of us knew what the reaction was going to be the next day," Wilson said. "You know, a typical police shooting is: you get about a week to a week and a half off, you see a shrink, you go through your Internal Affairs interviews. And then you come back." Barb told me, "I didn't think it would be a big weight on his shoulders. This is kind of what we signed up for."
Later that night, however, they turned on the television and watched live coverage of unrest in Ferguson. Barb recalled, "We stayed up all night watching, like, 'Oh, my God—what's going on? What are they doing?'"
Barb's younger son, who was then six, asked why there were images on television of Ferguson burning. Wilson told me, "I said, 'Well, I had to shoot somebody.' And he goes, 'Well, why did you shoot him? Was he a bad guy?' I said, 'Yeah, he was a bad guy.'"
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A few days after the shooting, the Wilsons, worried that their address was about to be leaked online, fled to the house of a relative: "We ran through the house, grabbed all our guns, and put some bags together." Wilson contemplated leaving St. Louis for good, then reconsidered. He told me, "At least here I'd know where I'm welcome and not welcome."
In March, the Justice Department issued a scathing report on the city of Ferguson (http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf), concluding that "a culture of systemic racial bias" permeated the police department.
But Wilson said he has not read the report.
"I don't have any desire," he said. "I'm not going to keep living in the past about what Ferguson did. It's out of my control."
In 2009, when Wilson was in police training in Jennings, a predominantly black town bordering Ferguson, he admitted to a field officer that he felt out of place.
"I don't know what I'm doing," he recalled saying. "This is a culture shock. Would you help me? Because you obviously have that connection, and you can relate to them. You may be white, but they still respect you. So why can they respect you and not me?"
But Wilson said race did not play a part in his shock.
"I never looked at it like 'I'm the only white guy here.' I just looked at it as 'This isn't where I grew up,'" he said. "When a cop shows up, it's, like, 'The cops are here!' There's no 'Oh, s---, the white cops are here!'"
"Everyone is so quick to jump on race," Wilson continued. "It's not a race issue."
In late November, five days after the grand jury's decision not to indict him (http://news.yahoo.com/in-darren-wilsons-words-grand-jury-testimony-gives-first-look-at-officers-fear-before-michael-brown-shooting-132740762.html) was announced, Wilson resigned from the Ferguson police force (http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/29/us/ferguson-protests/). He told the magazine that he's interviewed for a few police positions, but the Brown case is "too hot an issue, so it makes me unemployable."
If Ferguson offered him his old job back, would he take it?
"I would want to do it for a day," Wilson said.
Job insecurity is the new normal. Here's how it's affecting your family life (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865633375/Job-insecurity-is-the-new-normal-Heres-how-its-affecting-your-family-life.html)
QuoteA "one-way honor system" beholdens workers to their employers, while employers have little responsibility to employees. Researchers believe it's reshaping our family lives.
After World War II, there was a golden era when Americans, especially those that had an education, could expect to have a job and keep it until retirement and retire with an adequate pension.
Those days, which Allison Pugh, professor of Sociology at University of Virginia, refers to as the "20-year career and a gold watch" model, are over. Between a competitive global market, recession and job automation, and a switch to part-time and contingent workers, Americans now live in a culture of perpetual job insecurity, where they are easily laid off, at both high and low-level jobs, and can expect to switch jobs, or locations, at least a half dozen times during their careers.
Last year, Hewlett-Packard eliminated 34,000 jobs, and JC Penney and Sprint announced cuts, while JP Morgan Chase has cut 20,000 from its workforce since 2011. In double-earner families, at least one parent reports feeling "insecure" about their job, and in almost half of those both think their job is insecure.
This dynamic creates a constant tension for workers, who are beset by uncertainty. It has bred what Pugh calls the "one-way honor system," in which workers are beholden to employers, but employers are not, says Pugh, author of "The Tumbleweed Society: Working and Caring in an Age of Insecurity," out earlier this year.
SEE MORE: How working around the clock hurts families (http://national.deseretnews.com/article/5323/How-working-around-the-clock-hurts-families.html)
How does insecurity impact our love lives, Pugh wondered? How do these changes go beyond the cubicle to our romantic partners, friendships, and children? For her book, she interviewed 80 people about their work lives and home lives. Pugh talks to the Deseret News about how the "insecurity culture" infiltrates our homes and amplifies or diminishes our commitments and obligations to those we love.
This interview has been edited for length and clarity.
DN: In the title of the book, you refer to the "Age of Insecurity" in America. What does that mean?
Pugh: Part of what's new about this time in America is that employers are restructuring not just during recessions, but when times are flush. Over the past 30 years the American economy has added 60 million jobs, but it's not clear to workers if they will keep their current job or where the next will be. There is also evidence that long-term employment is on the decline.
At the same time, the churn at work parallels changes in intimacy. Partnerships dissolve and reform much more rapidly than they did 50 years ago. Divorce rates have plateaued since the 1980s, but 20 percent of marriages end within five years, and so do co-habitators. These have implications for stability.
DN: You call these twin phenomenae — job insecurity and family insecurity — the "two whirlwinds." Are they connected?
Pugh: The rise in job insecurity and the rise in divorce and separation doesn't necessarily imply linkage. It's not that simple. But we know that the old style of organizing work — the social compact, lifetime careers — encouraged particular kinds of intimacy and families.
Job insecurity does lead to family disruption, and job stability lends stability to the home. You could make the argument that job security enables families to endure. Families of all kinds can experience longer relationships when they are not scurrying around figuring out new ways to make a livelihood.
DN: One curious effect that you notice within job insecurity is a "one-way contract" in which workers feel supremely beholden to employers without holding employers responsible. Can you explain that?
Pugh: The one-way honor system is when individual workers profess having an intense work ethic that also involves loyalty or identifying with the employers. Many people that I interviewed said that they give "150 percent, or 100 percent, or 125 percent," so the individual is pledging themselves as a statement of personal character. They're saying, "I'm a good person, see how much I identify with work and can be relied on."
On the other hand, for the last 30 years or so, employers have been pulling away from making any similar pledge. And there's no blame for employers — even people who had been laid off said it's not the company's job to worry about workers, they have to be lean and mean in a tough economy. Americans appear to have entirely capitulated to the model of the high-performance company that doesn't owe anything to workers aside from, as one woman that I interviewed said, "a paycheck and some respect."
DN: You say that we just take that attitude for granted, but is there an alternative? Is it unique to America?
Pugh: It feels unique. We do know that American work hours are extraordinarily long — we are neck-and-neck with Japan. Usually long work hours are a sign of low productivity, for example, if you look at work hours in Europe, it's not Germany that has long work hours, it's Greece. But that's not true in the U.S. We have high productivity, climbing higher all the time, but we have long work hours anyway.
One of the principle messages I give when I talk about this book is this: everyone finds it hard to envision another way. But isn't that what we need to thrive in a globalized economy?
DN: You argue that job insecurity is actually driving the rise in inequality. How does that work?
Pugh: The engine for inequality is job precariousness. People don't talk about job insecurity because they have given up on it, so they talk about income transfers or schedule predictability or character, but those aren't the engine.
It's the engine for inequality because one-third of those that get laid off get work again at a comparable wage, 1/3 don't get work, and 1/3 make less. People who get let go suffer wage decreases, and people who are hired back are hired back at less.
DN: Going back to how this affects families, what are some of the impacts that insecurity has on home and personal life?
Pugh: It's interesting. Some people build a "moral wall" to corral the insecurity they feel at work from their home, but placing nearly all their hopes for enduring connections on their personal lives can put a long of pressure on those relationships. This can spark the very instability that they long to avoid. Take Gary, for example. He is a single, white mechanic who has been laid off multiple times and is very devoted to his kids, but he's brittle and embittered about his failed relationships. He's very rigid and has almost impossibly high expectations, which is interesting, since he has had almost none for his employers.
The moral wall is a kind of intensity barometer, and people felt more intensely about their home lives when they felt besieged by insecurity in the work world. Intensifiers can be good and bad. Some "commitment heroes" like Gary are inspired to take un unbelievable burdens, but that's also the source for a lot of anger and vitriol when people feel betrayed.
DN: What about how insecurity effects parenting and relationships with children?
Pugh: We know that job insecurity makes parenting harder, and it makes teens believe less in the idea that working hard will get you somewhere, and that you can change things around you rather than be controlled by them.
What was striking to me was that for everyone that I interviewed, children were the last frontier in terms of duty and our obligations to each other. People cared deeply for their children. But not everyone parents the same. Affluent people were raising their kids to be flexible, to take advantage of opportunities. Low-income people were raising their children to brace themselves for bad news and inevitable hardship.
One group was groomed for opportunity, the other for catastrophe. Individuls are prompted to wonder how much of that ends up becoming self-fulfilling prophecy.
What U.S. citizens weren't told about the atomic bombing of Japan (http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0809-southard-atomic-bomb-survivors-20150806-story.html?ref=yfp)
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Seventy years ago, the United States dropped two atomic bombs on Japan: Hiroshima on Aug. 6, 1945; Nagasaki on Aug. 9. With searing heat and annihilating force, the nuclear blasts tore through factories, shops and homes in both cities. Huge portions of Hiroshima and Nagasaki vanished. Weighing many factors, including the Soviet Union's entry into the war against Japan 11 hours before the Nagasaki bombing, Japan surrendered. By Aug. 15, World War II was over.
In the United States, the necessity of the bombings to end the war has been studied and argued for decades, but the acute and long-term effects of whole-body radiation exposure on the men, women and children beneath the mushroom clouds are little known and seldom mentioned. Without also accounting for this critical aspect of the bombings, discussions of the military, moral and existential issues surrounding Hiroshima and Nagasaki are incomplete. If we choose to take and defend actions that cause great harm to civilians during war, we must also scrutinize and wholly understand the effect of those actions.
Within a week of each nuclear attack, thousands who had escaped death began to experience inexplicable combinations of symptoms: high fever, dizziness, nausea, headaches, diarrhea, bloody stools, nosebleeds and whole-body weakness. Their hair fell out in large clumps, their wounds secreted extreme amounts of pus, and their gums swelled and bled. Purple spots appeared on their bodies, signs of hemorrhaging beneath the skin. Infections ravaged their internal organs. Within a few days of the onset of symptoms, many people lost consciousness, mumbled deliriously and died in extreme pain; others languished for weeks before either dying or slowly recovering. Even those who had suffered no external injuries fell sick and died. In the ruins of his small tuberculosis hospital in Nagasaki, Dr. Tatsuichiro Akizuki likened the situation to the Black Death pandemic that ravaged Europe in the 1300s.
A second wave of radiation illnesses and deaths swept through Nagasaki in late August through early October. From Akizuki's perspective on top of Motohara Hill, the illness carved a clear geographical path: From the bottom of the hill upward, people died in order of their distance from the bomb's hypocenter. Akizuki called this phenomenon the "concentric circles of death."
Today, Americans' silence on this crucial chapter of the atomic bomb story is, in large part, an extension of U.S. denial and suppression since the end of the war. Immediately after the bombings, high-level U.S. officials publicly — and adamantly — rebuffed news reports about the bombs' horrific aftereffects. Gen. Leslie Groves, director of the Manhattan Project, which developed the atomic bombs, dismissed these reports as propaganda, even as he sent teams to measure radiation levels to ensure the safety of U.S. troops about to enter both cities. Later that year, Groves testified before the U.S. Senate that death from high-dose radiation exposure is "without undue suffering" and "a very pleasant way to die."
In Nagasaki, newborn death rates skyrocketed in the nine months after the bombing: 43% of pregnancies in which the fetus was exposed within a quarter-mile of the hypocenter ended in spontaneous abortion, stillbirth or infant death. Young mothers giving birth in the ruins did not know it yet, but even those infants who survived would face severe physical and mental disabilities.
For years, tens of thousands of hibakusha ("atomic bomb-affected people") suffered agonizing radiation-related illnesses. Many died. Meanwhile, Gen. Douglas MacArthur's occupation press code censored Japanese news accounts, personal testimonies, photographs and scientific research on the survivors' conditions. In the United States, virtually all reports about the devastation and radiation-related deaths stopped after a confidential memo to American media requested that all reports about the atomic bombs be preapproved by the War Department, particularly those containing scientific or technical details.
In 1946 and 1947, opposition to the bombings began appearing in U.S. media, including John Hersey's "Hiroshima," first published in the New Yorker, and a scathing essay by journalist Norman Cousins in the Saturday Review. U.S. government and military officials hurriedly strategized how to prevent what they considered "a distortion of history" that could damage postwar international relations and threaten U.S. nuclear development. Two articles by prominent government officials — the first by Karl T. Compton, a respected physicist who had helped develop the atomic bombs, and the second by former Secretary of War Henry L. Stimson — offered intelligent and persuasive "behind the scenes" perspectives on the U.S. decision to use the bombs. These powerful justifications effectively quelled civic dissent and directed focus away from the ongoing suffering of the people of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
By the early 1950s, cancer rates for hibakusha adults and children soared, and many more hibakusha developed liver, endocrine, blood and skin diseases, and impairments of the central nervous system. Mortality rates remained high. Most commonly, survivors experienced violent dizzy spells and a profound depletion of energy. Fears about genetic effects of radiation exposure on their children haunted them for decades. Thirty years after the war, high rates of leukemia as well as stomach and colon cancer persisted. From the survivors' perspective, the atomic bomb had burned their bodies from the inside out.
As Japanese and U.S. scientists continue studying hibakusha, their children and grandchildren to try to comprehend the full effect of radiation exposure, can we come face to face with the terrorizing realities of nuclear weapons? We don't have to suppress our condemnation of Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor, mistreatment and killings of Allied POWs and slaughter of civilians across Asia to do so. An expanded understanding of atomic bomb history that includes the human consequences of nuclear war will deepen our integrity as a nation and, one hopes, influence our nuclear weapons policies across the world.
Susan Southard is the author of "Nagasaki: Life After Nuclear War" and the artistic director of Essential Theater in Tempe, Ariz.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/thats-not-funny/399335/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/thats-not-funny/399335/)
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Officials: Police shoot gunman who opened fire during Ferguson anniversary protest (http://news.yahoo.com/police-shoot-gunman-who-opened-fire-during-ferguson-anniversary-protest-055405433.html)
QuoteST. LOUIS — Officers have shot a man who police say opened fire on them in Ferguson, Missouri where protesters gathered en masse on the anniversary of Michael Brown's death.
The identity and condition of the person shot by police was not immediately known.
"The St. Louis County Police Department was involved in an officer-involved shooting after officers came under heavy gunfire," county police spokesman Shawn McGuire said in a written statement. "We are working as quickly as possible to get details of the incident."
A news conference was scheduled for 2:30 a.m. CT.
The burst of gunshots erupted as officers were seeking to disperse a crowd of several hundred demonstrators who began blocking traffic and smashing windows along a main Ferguson thoroughfare. A news crew captured the chaos of the moment, as unsuspecting citizens scrambled for cover.
A Twitter user posted video of an officer standing near a purportedly injured man lying on the ground.
"Hey, he's bleeding!" the videographer yells to police. "Please get him some help. He's bleeding out, please get him some help, man."
Minutes after the shots were heard, an Associated Press photographer saw a man lying face down, covered in blood, behind a boarded-up restaurant. It wasn't immediately clear how badly the man was injured, the AP reported. Later, an AP reporter saw a woman overcome with grief. Friends were consoling her. She screamed: "Why did they do it?" Another woman nearby fainted. A man nearby said, "They killed my brother."
In another video posting, the man who yelled for help is pushed away from the scene (https://twitter.com/search4swag/status/630595778977796096) and detained by police. He later tweeted that was eventually released, but had suffered a small cut under his eye from being shoved into a chain-link fence. "No big deal," he wrote of his injury. He was still on the scene when paramedics arrived for the man allegedly shot by police.
I nastavak:
State of emergency issued following Ferguson anniversary violence (http://news.yahoo.com/police-shoot-gunman-who-opened-fire-during-ferguson-anniversary-protest-055405433.html#)
Rasna, belačka paravojska, jel...
http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/naoruzani-bivsi-pripadnici-policije-i-vojske-slobodno-patroliraju-fergusonom/150812022 (http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/naoruzani-bivsi-pripadnici-policije-i-vojske-slobodno-patroliraju-fergusonom/150812022)
Ova žena stvarno ne zna za stid:
Clinton offers forceful defense on Benghazi, emails (http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-wants-scholarships-child-care-student-parents-200647347--election.html)
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/08/tinder-hook-up-culture-end-of-dating (http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/08/tinder-hook-up-culture-end-of-dating)
Going to College Isn't Paying Off for Students of Color (http://news.yahoo.com/going-college-isn-t-paying-off-students-color-220554467.html)
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It's a truism few parents of high school seniors would refute: a college diploma is an economic investment (http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/10/10/student-loan-debt-not-real-millennial-horror-story) as much as an intellectual one. Besides being a ticket to a middle-class lifestyle, the wisdom usually goes (http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/09/18/americans-no-longer-believe-college-education-very-important), a degree is an insurance policy against hard times. Yet a report released this week by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (https://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/in-the-balance/issue12-2015/why-didnt-higher-education-protect-hispanic-and-black-wealth) shows that for minority college grads, the investment in higher education isn't paying off like it should. And the bank's analysis is the just latest data set to undermine the bedrock premise that education alone can help level the economic playing field (http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/07/29/time-treat-poverty-medical-condition) between whites and minorities.
Although college grads across the board make more money than their less-educated peers, the report found that whites and Asians with four-year degrees not only tend to outearn their black and Latino counterparts, but they also better withstood the impact of the Great Recession. "Based on two decades of detailed wealth data, we conclude that education does not, however, protect the wealth of all racial and ethnic groups equally," the report's authors wrote.
According to the study, white and Asian American families with four-year college degrees were more likely to have accumulated much more wealth over the longer term than their less-well-educated counterparts. Ditto for African American and Latino families, although their earnings and wealth were typically lower than that of whites and Asian Americans.
"This is certainly partially a story about intergenerational inequality," S. Michael Gaddis, an associate professor of sociology and demography at Penn State University, wrote in an email to TakePart.
One factor: "Research shows that minority and low [socioeconomic status] students don't attend the best possible colleges they could (based on grades, etc.) and that lack of the best degrees translates into a substantial workforce that is underutilized," wrote Gaddis, who authored a study released in March that found minority students who attend elite schools such as Harvard don't fare better in the job market (http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/03/10/even-going-harvard-cant-guarantee-some-grads-job) compared with less-well-educated whites.
That's troubling enough, but this latest report from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis also concluded that Hispanic and black families headed by someone with a four-year college degree "typically fared significantly worse than Hispanic and black families without college degrees." The authors found that "This was true both during the recent turbulent period (2007–2013) as well as during a two-decade span ending in 2013 (the most recent data available)."
This is explained in part by the fact that less-educated minority families had less to lose, on average, than their middle-class peers. But the report also noted that real estate was a factor: Better-educated African American and Latinos were more likely to own homes, and those homes tended to be their primary source of wealth, so when the housing market collapsed, their residences transformed from piggy banks into anchors.
"Declines in the average value of owner-occupied homes among college-educated Hispanic and black families between 2007 and 2013 were 45 percent and 51 percent, respectively," said the report. "The average value of owner-occupied homes declined 25 percent among college-educated white families and increased 6 percent among college-educated Asian families."
Maya Rockeymoore, head of Global Policy Solutions, a Washington, D.C.–based policy organization, said that statistic points to another issue minorities face but whites don't: discrimination and subprime loans in the housing market, which many families use to finance college tuition.
"The evidence shows that the free market is not so free for blacks and Hispanics who were charged disproportionately higher rates compared to similarly situated whites for mortgage products, despite having high incomes and good credit," Rockeymoore said.
As a result, she said, "this had a devastating impact on their ability to grow and protect their wealth" even before the market crash. "It's a problem not just for individuals but for entire families of color over generations."
RELATED: How Racially Driven Predatory Lending Hurts Us All (http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/06/16/how-racially-driven-predatory-lending-hurts-us-all)
Related stories on TakePart:
• Cosign of the Times: The Rich Are Borrowing to Pay for College Too (http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/10/22/cosign-times-rich-are-borrowing-pay-college-too)
• Racism Literally Costs America $2 Trillion...Ready to Stop Payment? (http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/12/13/racism-literally-costs-america-too-much-continue)
• One of the Top Schools in the Nation Allegedly Discriminates Against Black and Latino Students (http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/07/25/complaint-argues-prominent-high-school-discriminates-against-black-and-latino)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34062118 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34062118)
Two US journalists have been shot dead during a live TV report in the state of Virginia
O, bože... Teksas :cry: :cry: :cry:
Death by selfie: Texas teenager Deleon Alonso Smith fatally shoots himself in neck while taking photo (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/death-selfie-texas-teenager-deleon-122653103.html#Pvl5rz4)
QuoteTexas teenager Deleon Alonso Smith has accidentally shot and killed himself while posing for selfies with a gun he found earlier in the day.
The 19 year old was taking photos of himself and his cousin when he inadvertently pulled the trigger and fired into his own neck. He died of a single gunshot, while his cousin was unharmed. His grandmother Alma Douglas said: "It's a numb feeling. It's still unbelievable. Yesterday was my birthday and he came to wish me happy birthday, and now this kind of news," reported The Sun (http://www.thesun.co.uk/).
Smith's death is the latest in a series of accidental injuries and deaths caused when people have been taking selfies. In July, a San Diego man hospitalised for five days after he attempted to take a selfie with a rattlesnake. Todd Fassler was hit with a medical bill of $156,000 (£100,000) following the incident.
In the same month a 21-year-old Russian university graduate fell to her death from a bridge while she was trying to take a selfie next to the Moscow International Business Centre. She had been taking a photo of herself and friends when she plunged into the nearby quayside. One month earlier another woman from Moscow almost died when she fired a pistol that pressed against her temple while posing for a selfie.
brate, samo čekamo snimanje horor filma sa selfi štapom ubicom...
ovi selfi-debili zaslužuju sve što sami sebi urade, ali mnogo veća PROPAS je ovaj nesrećnik dole koji jeste radio nešto malkice bzvz ali svakako nije zaslužio bruku a možda i apsu zato što je na sopstvenom telefonu držao slike golog maloletnika - SEBE!
čitav niz apsurda i sumnjivih nepravilnosti - ovde:
Teen Boy Will Be Charged As Adult For Having Naked Pics of a Minor: Himself
Kafka-esque sexting nightmare
http://reason.com/blog/2015/09/02/teen-boy-will-be-charged-as-adult-for-ha (http://reason.com/blog/2015/09/02/teen-boy-will-be-charged-as-adult-for-ha)
http://www.klix.ba/biznis/privreda/aleksa-milojevic-za-klix-ba-cijena-svjetske-ekonomske-krize-koju-cemo-platiti-bit-ce-visoka/150830007 (http://www.klix.ba/biznis/privreda/aleksa-milojevic-za-klix-ba-cijena-svjetske-ekonomske-krize-koju-cemo-platiti-bit-ce-visoka/150830007)
QuoteTexas teenager Deleon Alonso Smith has accidentally shot and killed himself while posing for selfies with a gun he found earlier in the day.
The 19 year old was taking photos of himself and his cousin when he inadvertently pulled the trigger and fired into his own neck.
Prirodna selekcija.
QuoteSmith's death is the latest in a series of accidental injuries and deaths caused when people have been taking selfies.
Sure, let's NOT blame it on guns. Selfies kill people. 8-)
Evo da se određeni članovi foruma naslađuju :lol: :
U.S. Is Helpless Against Some Russia's Military Hardware (http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/09/u-s-is-helpless-against-some-russias-military-hardware/)
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With indications that NATO vs. Russia war could begin 'today or tomorrow' (http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/09/nato-vs-russia-war-begin-anytime/), Russia is already equipping its military with advanced hardware to gain advantage in such a war.
Russian Helicopters company has begun developing an advanced high-speed combat helicopter. The fact that the helicopter (PSV) was under development was reported earlier, but it wasn't specified whether it would be an offensive chopper or used exclusively as military transportation means.
The Moscow-based company's deputy CEO for sales, Grigory Kozlov, gave official details about the military chopper on Wednesday.
It was reported on Monday that the PSV is expected to enter commercial production by the year of 2022, according to Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force Viktor Bondarev.
The combat helicopter can accelerate up to 500 kilometers (311 miles) per hour.
"At present, projects on the Mi-28NM, Ka-52K, Mi-26T2 [helicopters] are being realized, and work on an advanced high-speed combat helicopter (http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/06/russia-adding-to-forces-on-western-border/) has started," Kozlov told Russian state-owned RIA Novosti.
The company manufacturer of the PSV is one of the key design and manufacturing companies. Founded in 2007, the company has five chopper plants, two design departments as well as enterprises for the production and maintenance of aircraft parts, a repair plant and a service company that provides technical support of sold aircraft.
Russia's T-14 Armata main battle tank will be invisible
The PSV military chopper is yet another indication that Russian President Vladimir Putin is dead serious about making his country one of the greatest military powers in the world, with an ultimate aim to make it the greatest.
Earlier this year, Russia showcased its cutting-edge T-14 Armata (http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/05/russias-new-armata-tank-breaks-down-amid-rehearsal/) main battle tank – easily the largest main battle tank manufacturer in the world. The company-manufacturer of the tank, Uralvagonzavod, claims this deadliest new weapon is invisible to enemy radars.
It is yet unclear whether this claim is true or not, but one thing is certain: the Russian military intends to replace 70 percent of the country's tanks with the cutting-edge T-14 Armata. As of now, the Russian military consists of mostly T-72 and T-90 main battle tanks.
With plans to produce 2,300 T-14 Armata tanks by 2020, there are little details for the public about the tank's hardware, which is why it is difficult for experts to assess its capabilities and compare it to Western and U.S. main battle tanks.
Apparently, the U.S. must fear not only Russia's new military developments, but also China's. It was reported earlier this year that China is developing a new High Altitude, Long Endurance (HALE) UAV (also known as the Divine Eagle) capable of eliminating stealth enemy aircraft far away from the Chinese territory.
And it has just become apparent that Russia is working on a similar system. The MAKS aircraft spectacular show held in Moscow last week showcased advanced Russia's aircraft that the country's engineers have been working on for years, or even decades.
U.S. will be helpless against Russia and China's new UAVs
The new UAV, which was shown at the show, is similar to China's Divine Eagle in the regard of it using low frequency radars to detect low-observable stealth aircraft such as the F-35, F-22 and B-2 bomber, according to Flight Global news website.
It must be noted that most stealth aircraft is designed to evade high-frequency radar systems. But the developers of the new UAV (http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/08/china-and-russia-developing-anti-stealth-drones/) have made a great leap ahead by equipping the aircraft with an advanced electronic warfare suite. Not only does it have a protective electromagnetic sphere around the UAV to counter missiles, but also makes it invisible from radars.
What it means is this: the new Russian UAV will detect U.S. stealth aircraft without being detected. This kind of combination would give the Russians a major advantage in a war against the U.S.
On top of that, "Russia and China are already working on new networked air defenses coupled with new radars operating in the UHF and VHF-bands that threaten to neutralize America's massive investment in fifth-generation fighters. Fighter-sized stealth aircraft are only optimized to perform against high-frequency fire control band radars operating in the Ku, X, C and portions of the S-band," U.S. defense official Dave Majumdar told The National Interest (http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/how-china-russia-plan-crush-americas-stealth-aircraft-13708).
Russia's weak and strong military sides
The Pentagon took a serious note of Russia's military capabilities ever since its large-scale military drills (http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/08/tensions-in-asia-pacific-amid-china-russia-drills/) in March this year. Considering the evolving nature of warfare over the next decades, military experts agree that Russia's military capabilities are likely to be affected.
For example, the growing trend toward greater automation will gradually become a weak side of the Russian military, since the Kremlin does not have the military technology that could compete with Western automated systems. Besides, Russia doesn't have the technology to develop those systems in the nearest future.
Thus, in case a war between the West and Russian begins, Russian would be the weak side in terms of automated control systems, advanced electronics, drones and other electronics.
Therefore, Russia must be looking for other ways to effectively counter Western automated technologies. For example, Russian military could try to jam Western communications and disable automated equipment with its electronic developments. Besides, Russia has a great experience at disabling such enemy equipment ever since the Soviet times.
Another way for Moscow to counter Washington's technological developments that are out of reach for Russia's capabilities would be focusing on cyber warfare against the West. Russia's could even wage a cyber warfare without declaring it, and with recent hacks of the Pentagon, Russia might have already started it.
Zvaničnici su pokušali da preurede granice jedne oblasti tako da nema nijednog registrovanog glasača u toj oblasti, da bi vlasnici kapitala odlučivali o zakonima umesto građanstva. Ali im je promakao jedan registrovani glasač.
http://qz.com/491061/because-of-an-electoral-mishap-a-us-tax-vote-will-be-decided-by-a-single-woman/ (http://qz.com/491061/because-of-an-electoral-mishap-a-us-tax-vote-will-be-decided-by-a-single-woman/)
The US Marines tested all-male squads against mixed-gender ones, and the results were pretty bleak (http://qz.com/499618/the-us-marines-tested-all-male-squads-against-mixed-gender-ones-and-the-men-came-out-ahead/?utm_source=YPL)
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In 2013, the US military lifted its ban on women serving in combat. Shortly after, the Marine Corps began what it calls an "unprecedented research effort" to understand the impact of gender integration on its combat forces. That took the form of a year-long experiment called the Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force, in which 400 Marines—100 of them female—trained for combat together and then undertook a simulated deployment (http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/09/07/grunt-life-marines-dish-corps-women-combat-experiment/71632666/), with every facet of their experience measured and scrutinized (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/09/08/marines-women-in-combat-experiment-gets-mixed-results/).
All branches of the military are facing a January 1, 2016, deadline to open all combat roles to women. The Marine Corps is using this experiment to decide whether to request exceptions to that mandate. (http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/08/20/marines-decision-women-combat-expected-weeks/32065377/) The Corps' summary of the experiment, posted online today by NPR (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2394531-marine-corps-force-integration-plan-summary.html), concludes that combat teams were less effective when they included women (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/10/439190586/marine-corps-study-finds-all-male-combat-units-faster-than-mixed-units?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews).
Overall, the report says, all-male teams and crews outperformed mixed-gender ones on 93 out of 134 tasks evaluated. All-male teams were universally faster "in each tactical movement." On "lethality," the report says:
All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M4.
And:
All-male infantry crew-served weapons teams engaged targets quicker and registered more hits on target as compared to gender-integrated infantry crew-served weapons teams, with the exception of M2 accuracy.
And:
All-male squads, teams and crews and gender-integrated squads, teams, and crews had a noticeable difference in their performance of the basic combat tasks of negotiating obstacles and evacuating casualties. For example, when negotiating the wall obstacle, male Marines threw their packs to the top of the wall, whereas female Marines required regular assistance in getting their packs to the top. During casualty evacuation assessments, there were notable differences in execution times between all-male and gender-integrated groups, except in the case where teams conducted a casualty evacuation as a one-Marine fireman's carry of another (in which case it was most often a male Marine who "evacuated" the casualty)
The report also says that female Marines had higher rates of injury throughout the experiment.
Such conclusions may be disheartening to proponents of gender integration in combat, and certainly put a damper on the news that the Army's ranger school recently graduated its first female soldiers (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/08/21/433482186/first-female-soldiers-graduate-from-army-ranger-school). The tests come with at least one important caveat: As the Marine Corps Times notes (http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/story/military/2015/09/10/mixed-gender-teams-come-up-short-marines-infantry-experiment/71979146/), many of of the male study participants had previously served in combat units, whereas female participants, by necessity, came directly from infantry schools or from noncombat jobs.
The Marine Corps summary report does not indicate or suggest that the Marines will be asking for an exception to the military's integration mandate. However, it does quote this somber section of a 1992 government study on gender integration in the armed forces:
A military unit at maximum combat effectiveness is a military unit least likely to suffer casualties. Winning in war is often only a matter of inches, and unnecessary distraction or any dilution of the combat effectiveness puts the mission and lives in jeopardy. Risking the lives of a military unit in combat to provide career opportunities or accommodate the personal desires or interests of an individual, or group of individuals, is more than bad military judgment. It is morally wrong.
Pitam se sprovode li redovno slična istraživanja u Izraelu, i bi li imali čemu naučiti ove Amerikance.
Da, svakako ne treba na osnovu jedne studije da zaključimo da je ženama mesto isključivo za šporetom. Jutros sam video da su ove godine tri najbolje rangirana kadeta na ovogodišnjj završnoj godini naše vojne akademije, vlasnice tri vagine.
Njujork Tajmz:
Why Russians Hate America. Again. (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/sunday-review/why-russians-hate-america-again.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0)
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MOSCOW — ON a warm August evening, I found myself sitting with three educated young Russians at the Beverly Hills Diner, a chain restaurant whose gaudy décor includes human-size figures of Porky the Pig and Marilyn Monroe.
They had invited me to join their table, inside a green convertible car, after I had asked a few reporter-type questions about their country. But all talk of Russia (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/russiaandtheformersovietunion/index.html?inline=nyt-geo) kept leading to America.
"America is trying to encircle us," said Kristina Donets, 29, swabbing a slice of dessert waffle in banana compote. "We have finally risen out of chaos and you don't like that."
Reporting in Russia after more than a decade away felt a lot like visiting an old friend. It is where I owned my first car (and had it stolen), met my husband and first worked as a journalist.
But the friend had changed.
In some ways, it was for the better. People were wealthier — despite the recent decline in the ruble and jump in inflation — and better traveled. The kindhearted woman who hosted me when I first moved to Moscow in 1997 said it best: "We don't have to wash out our plastic bags anymore." Her tiny salary had quadrupled since I'd last seen her. She had taken her first trip abroad — a package tour to Tunisia.
But there was a darker side. Society had grown more defensive, and self-conscious, like a teenager constantly looking at herself in the mirror. Oligarchs had always had exit ramps — a house in London and a second passport — but now my own friends were looking for escape routes.
Intellectuals pointed me to books on Berlin in the 1920s and the concept of "ressentiment,'' (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0967067X14000580) a philosophical term that describes a simmering resentment and sense of victimization arising out of envy of a perceived enemy. It often has its roots in a culture's feeling of impotence. In Berlin in the early 20th century, it helped explain the rise of German fascism. In Russia in August, it seemed to have many targets: Ukraine, gay people, European dairy products and above all the United States.
"America stuffs its democracy in our face," bellowed a cabdriver named Kostya in the city of Nizhny Novgorod. (His main beef was with the "propaganda of pederasts," using a derogatory word used to describe homosexuals, a few weeks after the Supreme Court's approval of gay marriage.) "If you're saying yes, yes, yes, all the time and nodding your head, well sometimes you have to say no," he said, explaining that Russia had finally stood up to the United States.
There is, of course, a lot of history behind such sentiments. In the 19th century, Slavophiles and Westernizers clashed over the right path for Russia. There was obviously the fierce rivalry with the United States in Soviet times. Since then, there have been low points, often connected with American actions in the world. (The NATO bombing of Serbia in 1999 and the American invasion of Iraq are examples.) But nothing like the current opinion of America, which this year sank to its lowest level since the Soviet Union collapsed nearly 24 years ago, according to polling by the Levada Analytical Center (http://www.levada.ru/eng/) in Moscow. Advertisement
Continue reading the main story (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/sunday-review/why-russians-hate-america-again.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0#story-continues-4) Advertisement
Continue reading the main story (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/sunday-review/why-russians-hate-america-again.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0#story-continues-4) Anti-Americanism is more potent now because it is stirred up and in many ways sponsored by the state, an effort that Russians, despite their hard-bitten cynicism, seem surprisingly susceptible to. Independent voices are all but gone from Russian television, and most channels now march to the same, slickly produced beat. Virtually any domestic problem, from the ruble's decline to pensioners' losing subsidies on public transport, is cast as a geopolitical standoff between Russia and America, and political unrest anywhere is portrayed as having an American State Department official lurking behind it.
"America wants to destroy us, humiliate us, take our natural resources," said Lev Gudkov, director of Levada, the polling center, describing the rhetoric, with which he strongly disagrees. "But why? For what? There is no explanation."
DURING my visit, Russians were thinking about America a lot, which was a kind of compliment, but in the way of a spurned lover who keeps sending angry texts long after the breakup.
"Tell her how well we all live, how much better than in Europe and how wonderful Crimea is now," hissed a woman in a skintight dress to someone I was interviewing. She was referring to the Crimean peninsula, which Russia annexed last year. That of course, was the other big change I encountered.
Inside Russia, Mr. Putin's actions in Crimea have broken friendships and split families, leaving society as divided as I have ever seen it. Politics, once everyone's obsession, now seems like a distant land no one visits. Those who do, pay a price. Mr. Gudkov said he felt like "a Jew in Hitler's Germany" when he opposed the Crimea annexation.
The move also caused the biggest break in relations with the West since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
"It's like a divorce," said Keith Darden, a political-science professor at American University. "They are saying: 'the relationship we had is over. We've had enough of your efforts to change us. We're doing our own thing now.' "
He added, "But they don't know what their own thing is."
What is the Kremlin's grand strategy? Many Russian liberals I talked to believe there isn't one. Mr. Putin and his inner circle are simply lurching from crisis to crisis. How else to explain Russia's sanctions on imported food, which have driven up inflation at home, or Crimea, which has lost a chunk of its tourists (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/20/world/europe/russias-pitch-to-vacationers-crimea-is-for-patriots.html) and saddled Moscow with expensive new social obligations.
Dmitry Volkov, a journalist who took part in the 2011 protests against Mr. Putin, compared the annexation, and Russia's subsequent military action in eastern Ukraine, to a mugging that ends in accidental murder.
"They keep crossing boundaries only to find that once they are across, it's only logical to cross the next one," he said. "That's not a strategy. That's a behavioral pattern."
Others believe that the government is unraveling, and that the shrillness of the nationalist narrative is a harbinger. Oil prices have plunged, shrinking the pie that Mr. Putin's loyalists had been feasting on.
"It's like before Pompeii, when all the springs dried up," said one Russian friend, a former journalist who is a keen observer of the political system. "The ground is hot."
The low opinion of America, Mr. Gudkov said, is not a permanent condition. The resentment seems to have more to do with Russians themselves than with any American action, a kind of defensive, free-floating expression of current anxieties.
But the biggest question is where it is all leading. Some Russians aren't sticking around to find out.
"I don't like what's happening now," said Alexander Yeremeyev, an Internet entrepreneur, walking with his family in Sokolniki, a park in central Moscow. "Now we're all supposed to unite against what — the U.S., Europe, cheese?"
He said he was considering leaving. "I have friends who say, 'it's great to do business in Russia.' But you know what they all have in common? Foreign passports."
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 13-09-2015, 07:03:13
Njujork Tajmz:
Why Russians Hate America. Again. (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/sunday-review/why-russians-hate-america-again.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0)
orgija besramne gnusobe, kratkovidosti i licemerja...
Ovo je za Rusija na ivici propasti.
Quote from: Father Jape on 13-09-2015, 12:22:40
Ovo je za Rusija na ivici propasti.
nije.
tačno je gde treba.
Ko je sinoć slušo vesti sigurno je video najnoviju hilerijs avanturu američkog školstva a koja se odvija od Ponedeljka. Četrnaestogodišnjak donese u školu digitalni sat koji je sam napravio da impresionira nastanvicu. Četrnaestoodišnjak je musliman. Nastavnica za svaki slučaj pozove policiju jer šta bi drugo taj sat možda potencijalno nikadsenezna mogao da bude do tempirana bomba? Naravno policija se nasmeje od srca i kaže joj da prestane da paranoiše i da joj troši vreme na gluposti? Zapravo ne, policija dođe i privede momka, stavi mu lisice i odvede ga u pritvor. Jer ipak, musliman je to. A u Teksasu smo.
Na kraju se sve srećno završi, policija kaže da neće pisati prijavu detetu, ali škola obavesti porodicu zvaničnim pismom da ne treba donositi opasne predmete na nastavu.
No charges for Muslim student after clock mistaken for bomb (http://news.yahoo.com/muslim-boy-14-arrested-making-clock-mistaken-bomb-114747334.html#)
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Texas principal sends awful letter to parents after Ahmed Mohamed was wrongfully arrested (http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/16/9337857/ahmed-mohamed-texas-school-district-letter)
Obama je tvitovao "Cool clock, Ahmed" xD
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/644193755814342656
pazi, taj mali ako zna da napravi sat zna da upravlja i avionom! a zna se šta rade muslimani u avionima!
POLICIJA UBILA ČOVEKA U INVALIDSKIM KOLICIMA U POKUŠAJU DA GA SPREČI DA IZVRŠI SAMOUBISTVO!
(treba li uopšte napomenuti da je ubijeni - crnac? verovatno ne. ipak, jeste: crn je ko crna zemlja u koju su ga poslali.)
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/09/delaware-cops-shoot-and-kill-man-in-wheelchair-as-witness-records-updated/ (http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/09/delaware-cops-shoot-and-kill-man-in-wheelchair-as-witness-records-updated/)
Suicide by cop.
ekčueli, pomogli su mu da uđe u raj, pošto tamo nema mesta za samoubice.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/professional-imbecile-george-zimmerman-retweets-163810394.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/professional-imbecile-george-zimmerman-retweets-163810394.html)
Professional Imbecile George Zimmerman Retweets Graphic Photo of Trayvon Martin's Dead Body
Vox je sajt na kome su lupetanja i netačnosti prečesta da bismo ih shvatali preozbiljno, ali ponekad se ozbiljno potrude, pa je ovaj tekst, recimo, vrlo jusful:
America's gun problem, explained (http://www.vox.com/2015/10/3/9444417/gun-violence-united-states-america)
The Decline of 'Big Soda' (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/upshot/soda-industry-struggles-as-consumer-tastes-change.html?_r=0)
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The drop in soda consumption represents the single largest change in the American diet in the last decade.
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O, jebem te, Ameriko...
Reports: Officer's shooting of boy with pellet gun justified (http://news.yahoo.com/2-reports-officers-shooting-ohio-boy-justified-000036314.html)
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COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A white Cleveland police officer was justified in fatally shooting a black 12-year-old boy holding a pellet gun moments after pulling up beside him, according to two outside reviews conducted at the request of the prosecutor investigating the death. A retired FBI agent and a Denver prosecutor both found the rookie patrolman who shot Tamir Rice exercised a reasonable use of force because he had reason to perceive the boy — described in a 911 call as man waving and pointing a gun — as a serious threat.
The reports were released Saturday night by the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office, which asked for the outside reviews as it presents evidence to a grand jury that will determine whether Timothy Loehmann will be charged in Tamir's death last November.
"We are not reaching any conclusions from these reports," Prosecutor Timothy J. McGinty said in a statement. "The gathering of evidence continues, and the grand jury will evaluate it all."
He said the reports, which included a technical reconstruction by the Ohio State Highway Patrol, were released in the interest of being "as public and transparent as possible."
Subodh Chandra, a lawyer for the Rice family, said the release of the reports shows the prosecutor is avoiding accountability, which is what the family seeks.
"It is now obvious that the prosecutor's office has been on a 12-month quest to avoid providing that accountability," he said. He added that the prosecutor's office didn't provide his office or the Rice family with the details from the reports. He also questioned the timing of the release, at 8 p.m. Saturday on the Columbus Day holiday weekend.
"To get so-called experts to assist in the whitewash — when the world has the video of what happened — is all the more alarming," Chandra said. "Who will speak for Tamir before the grand jury? Not the prosecutor, apparently."
Both experts were provided with surveillance video of the shooting that showed Loehmann firing at Tamir within two seconds after the police cruiser driven by his partner pulled up next to the boy. Police say the officers were responding to a call about a man with a gun, but were not told the caller said the gun could be a fake and the man an adolescent.
The report prepared by retired FBI agent Kimberly A. Crawford concluded that Loehmann's use of force did not violate Tamir's constitutional rights, saying the only facts relevant to such a determination are those the patrolman had at the time he fired his weapon.
Loehmann, she wrote, "had no information to suggest the weapon was anything but a real handgun, and the speed with which the confrontation progressed would not give the officer time to focus on the weapon."
"It is my conclusion that Officer Loehmann's use of deadly force falls within the realm of reasonableness under the dictates of the Fourth Amendment," Crawford wrote, though she noted she was not issuing an opinion as to whether Loehmann violated Ohio law or department policy.
Lamar Sims, the chief deputy district attorney in Denver, also concluded that Loehmann's actions were reasonable based on statements from witnesses and a reconstruction of what happened that day.
Sims said the officers had no idea if the pellet gun was a real gun when they arrived, and that Loehmann was in a position of great peril because he was within feet of Tamir as the boy approached the cruiser and reached toward his waistband.
"The officers did not create the violent situation," Sims wrote in his review. "They were responding to a situation fraught with the potential for violence to citizens."
Another officer who recovered the pellet gun after Tamir was shot told investigators he first thought the gun was a semiautomatic pistol and was surprised when he realized it wasn't real, Sims noted.
Chandra, the Rice family lawyer, says the experts "dodge the simple fact that the officers rushed Tamir and shot him immediately without assessing the situation in the least. Reasonable jurors could find that conduct unreasonable. But they will never get the chance because the prosecutor is working diligently to ensure that there is no indictment and no accountability."
The pellet gun Tamir was holding shoots non-lethal plastic projectiles but its orange markings had been removed.
The killing of Tamir has become part of a national outcry about minorities, especially black boys and men, dying during encounters with police. His death was not the first to roil Cleveland, either: Earlier this year, a white officer prosecuted by McGinty was acquitted in the 2012 deaths of two unarmed black motorists killed in a 137-shot barrage of police gunfire after a high-speed pursuit.
Cleveland and the U.S. Department of Justice are moving forward on a reform-minded consent decree after a DOJ investigation found Cleveland police had engaged in a practice of using excessive force and violating people's rights. That agreement was in the works before Tamir was killed.
PUCNJAVA NA ZOMBIKONU!
OCT 18 2015
1 Dead, 4 Hurt in Shooting at Florida 'ZombiCon'
by PHIL HELSEL and GEMMA DICASIMIRRO
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One person died and four others were hurt after shooting broke out at a zombie-themed event in Florida Saturday, authorities said.
The shooting happened at about 11:44 p.m. in downtown Fort Myers at a "ZombiCon" event, Fort Myers police said.
"I heard four gun shots and saw the crowd 10 feet in front of me part, and everyone turn and start running," Desere Lee, a student at Florida Gulf State University who was at the event, told NBC News.
Five people in all were shot, police said, and a male died at the scene, police said. The four surviving victims were described as having non life threatening injuries. A suspect is still at large, they said.
The organizers of the event, billed as "the largest gathering of zombies and those who love them in the state of Florida" said they were "deeply saddened" by the violence.
ZombiCon is a charity event where participants dress up as zombies. It wasn't clear if the shooting involved participants of the event, but organizers said it occurred "within the footprint" of ZombiCon.
"We take the safety of our patrons very seriously and take precautions in hiring security and police officers for our annual event," the organizers, Pushing DaiZies, Inc., said in a statement posted to Facebook. "Our prayers go out to the family members and individuals involved in the incident."
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/1-dead-4-hurt-shooting-florida-zombicon-n446656 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/1-dead-4-hurt-shooting-florida-zombicon-n446656)
'Clock kid' Ahmed Mohamed and his family will move to Qatar (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/clock-kid-ahmed-mohamed-and-his-family-will-move-to-qatar/2015/10/20/a95ed296-7762-11e5-b9c1-f03c48c96ac2_story.html)
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Less than 24 hours after Ahmed Mohamed met President Obama, his family decided it's time to leave America for good.
The 14-year-old Texas boy who was arrested for bringing to school a homemade clock that authorities said resembled a bomb will soon be living in Qatar.
"After careful consideration of all the generous offers received, we would like to announce that we have accepted a kind offer from Qatar Foundation for Education, Science and Community Development (QF) for Ahmed to join the prestigious QF Young Innovators Program, which reflects the organization's on-going dedication to empowering young people and fostering a culture of innovation and creativity," the family said in a news release Tuesday.
Anthony Bond, a close family friend and the founder of the Irving, Texas, chapter of the NAACP said the family made the decision to leave the U.S. within the past 24 hours. They have spent those hours in Washington, where Ahmed has been on a mini-press tour in anticipation of his visit to the White House.
President Obama personally invited the teen after his arrest last month, reaching out to him via Twitter. The president was one of many who spoke out about the implications of a 14-year-old Muslim boy accused of building a bomb, put in handcuffs and pulled out a school. Once it was discovered that the "bomb" was only a digital clock the young innovator built himself, the Irving Police said they would not be charging Ahmed with any crime.
But the spark had already been lit; Ahmed's story went viral, with the hashtag #IStandWithAhmed bringing out legions of supporters including Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton and Google co-founder Sergey Brin. Tweets, think pieces and daytime TV segments were dedicated to dissecting how Ahmed's situation typified racism and Islamaphobia in America.
After withdrawing from school in Texas, the boy's family embraced the opportunities that came from his brush with the law. He visited the Google Science Fair, met with Sudan's President Omar al Bashir, posed with the queen of Jordan at a United Nations Summit, appeared on the "Doctor Oz" show and last night, made it to the White House.
He was among 300 visitors to "Astronomy Night," a celebration of science and learning. Bill Nye the Science Guy was there, along with a number of standout students who have been recognized for scientific achievements throughout the country. Though some of those students received shoutouts during President Obama's comments, there was no mention of Ahmed in the audience. That didn't stop reporters from shouting to him from behind the rope lines: "Ahmed! How are you feeling?"
Perhaps that's the question that has been left out of the viral hubbub: What has this been like for Ahmed? To go from a run-of-the-mill 14-year-old to an international symbol for stereotyping in America?
In a phone interview on Tuesday, Ahmed's 19-year-old sister Eyman said he's under a pressure they never imagined. It can be a good pressure: "It's like now he's motivated to work harder than every before," she said. "Because people are going to be waiting to see what happened to that 14 year old kid."
And a bad one: "It's been really hard. Everything happens for a reason, but there's so much stuff being said that isn't true. . . "
Eyman was referring to a number of conspiracy theories that appeared on the Internet about his arrest. Most attest that the incident was a pre-planned plot to get attention. Some of that skepticism stems from claims against Ahmed's father, Mohamed Elhassan, who has run for president of Sudan and was present during a high-profile Koran burning in Florida (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/muslim-at-koran-trial-says-he-didnt-know-the-holy-book-would-be-burned/2011/04/05/AFKNR3oC_story.html). Bond, the family friend, said the conspiracies are why Ahmed doesn't want to go to school in America.
"Everybody's vilifying him, and he's not a villain. He's a 14 year old boy," Bond said. "The whole world was concerned about this, and it's impossible that anyone could have expected this international reaction."
Bond said the family is planning to move next week so Ahmed can begin school at the Qatar Foundation, where he will receive a full scholarship. His parents and two sisters will relocate too. The news release announcing the move may be the last we hear from the family for a while.
It included one statement from Ahmed:
"I loved the city of Doha because it's so modern. I saw so many amazing schools there, many of them campuses of famous American universities. The teachers were great. I think I will learn a lot and have fun too."
Ahmed's sister Eyman said the Middle East won't feel too different from the U.S., except that the family will be surrounded by Muslims like themselves.
"Qatar is in the Arab world, but it also feels like Texas. It's like Texas in Qatar."
Mislim da originalnu vest nisam kačio baš jer sam čekao da vidim kakvi će rezultati eksperimenta biti. Naime, u Aprilu ove godine je Dan Price, CEO firme Gravity Payments rešio da svim zaposlenima zagarantuje minimalnu platu od 70000 dolara godišnje, dakle, znatno iznad nekog percipiranog minimuma za posao koji rade, jer mu je rezon bio da su dobro stimulisani radnici i dobri radnici. Ovo je izazvalo i mnogo negativnih reakcija, što od nekih partnera i akcionara firme, a što i od strane nekih zaposlenih koji su uzeli svoje kompenzacije i otišli gunđajući o socijalizmu. Pre nekoliko dana internetom su počele da se šire priče da je firma sada u problemu, da gubi mušterije i da joj opada posao, te da je to dokaz da je eksperiment sa stimulacijom zaposlenih bio neuspešan, međutim, ovaj tekst veli da je, naprotiv, sve prilično ružičasto:
After Company Raises Minimum Salary To $70,000, Revenue And Profits Double (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/10/26/3715988/gravity-payments-revenue/)
QuoteIn April, Dan Price, CEO of the credit card payment processor Gravity Payments, announced that he will eventually raise minimum pay for all employees to at least $70,000 a year.
The move sparked not just a firestorm of media attention, but also a lawsuit (http://www.seattletimes.com/business/gravity-payments-ceo-sued-by-brother/) from Price's brother and co-founder Lucas, claiming that the pay raise violated his rights as a minority shareholder.
But six months later, the financial results are starting to come in: Price told Inc. Magazine (http://www.inc.com/magazine/201511/paul-keegan/does-more-pay-mean-more-growth.html) that revenue is now growing at double the rate before the raises began and profits have also doubled since then.
On top of that, while it lost a few customers in the kerfuffle, the company's customer retention rate rose from 91 to 95 percent, and only two employees quit. Two weeks after he made the initial announcement, the company was flooded with 4,500 resumes and new customer inquiries jumped from 30 a month to 2,000 a month.
The changes may not come as a surprise to Price. After an entry-level employee got angry with him in 2011 over low pay, he decided to give out 20 percent annual raises to his 120-person staff. While the raises came with a cost, profit still rose as much as the year before thanks in part to a 30-40 percent productivity increase. He decided to hand out the same raises the next year, to the same result. Before April's announcement, the company reached $150 million in revenue, $2.2 million in profit, and had a 15 percent annual growth rate.
Now the company is in the process of instituting the larger pay increases, which immediately raised the lowest salaries to $50,000 a year and implemented $10,000 raises at the bottom each year for the next two years. Those who already earn between $50,000 and $70,000 will also get $5,000 raises.
The whole plan will cost $1.8 million. To help cover the expense, Price cut his own pay from $1.1 million to $70,000. He's also sold all of his stocks, drained his retirement accounts, and mortgaged two properties to pour $3 million into the company. He's vowed not to fire employees, raise prices, or cut executive pay further to make it all work.
"Most people live paycheck to paycheck," he told Inc. "So how come I need 10 years of living expenses set aside and you don't? That doesn't make any sense. Having to depend on modest pay is not a bad thing. It will help me stay focused."
Price's big bet that significantly higher salaries will pay off is grounded in some support from economists. Two economists surveyed years of research (http://blogs.piie.com/realtime/?p=4700) and found that when major American companies raised pay, it increased productivity and performance, enhanced customer service, reduced turnover, and attracted better job candidates, all of which can lower costs and increase sales. One of the studies they examined found that more than half the cost of higher wages can be offset through such improvements, while other research (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/02/14/1594181/no-firing-minimum-wage-raise/) has found that a higher minimum wage can benefit companies through improved efficiency, reduced turnover, and improved recruitment.
Yet most employers are not increasing pay. While American workers have increased their productivity over the last four decades, they haven't gotten commensurate raises (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/09/02/3697832/epi-wages-productivity/) for doing so.
Pastor Blames Paris Tragedy Victims for Going to "Death Metal" Concert (http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/heartless-pastor-criticizes-paris-tragedy-victims-for-going-to-death-metal-concert-has-never-actually-heard-eagles-of-death-metal)
QuoteThat didn't take long did it? Exactly one day after the attacks at Bataclan during an Eagles of Death Metal concert, Christian pastor named Steven Anderson, leader of the Faithful Word Baptist Church, who has said many hateful things, decided to turn his attention to people who, in his opinion, needed a stern talking to... the victims of the attack that left over 100 people killed.
ThePRP reports that Anderson, who clearly has never heard as much as one note of Eagles of Death Metal music, not understanding the name is sarcastic, chastised the attendees of the show for essentially getting what they deserve for worshipping death metal. During his sermon, he had this to say:
"When you go to a concert of death metal, somebody might get killed! You know, you're worshiping death! And then, all of a sudden, people start dying!... Well, you love death so much, you bought the ticket, you love worshiping Satan! Well, let's have some of Satan's religion come in and shoot you!
I mean, that's what these people should think about before they go into such a wicked concert. And look I'm not condoning what these Islamic murderers did, they're wicked, they're murders.
But you know what, nobody should be at a concert worshiping Satan with this drug pushing hillbilly faggot. And that's what he is. I mean all you have to do is just Google this band. Somebody told me, somebody emailed me and told me 'just hit Google Images, Eagles Of Death Metal' and these guys are just total sodomite looking freaks. You know, but nobody thinks about that. It's just 'oh no, let's stand with France.'"
He rants even more about the band's frontman Jesse Hughes and the whole video has a level of insanity that I did not forsee possible. Even worse, is as he goes on this rant, you can clearly hear the audience agreeing with him.
Naravno, the joke's on him jer EODM nemaju nikakve veze sa death metalom (osim imena). Jesu grozan bend, to je istina i ime im je odvratno i ljudi koji im idu na koncerte treba da se zapitaju šta to rade sa svojim životima ali ne tvrdim da ih baš treba ubijati.
FDA Signs Off On Genetically Modified Salmon Without Labeling (http://consumerist.com/2015/11/19/fda-signs-off-on-genetically-modified-salmon-without-labeling/)
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While genetically modified agricultural products have been used in the U.S. for quite some time, the Food and Drug Administration had yet to approve the food use of any genetically engineered (GE) animals — until today. This morning, the agency announced the approval of an application for a salmon engineered to grow to market size faster than other farm-raised Atlantic salmon.
The FDA has declared AquAdvantage Salmon "safe to eat," (http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm472487.htm) noting that testing of the fish "demonstrated that the inserted genes remained stable over several generations of fish, that food from the GE salmon is safe to eat by humans and animals, that the genetic engineering is safe for the fish, and the salmon meets the sponsor's claim about faster growth."
According to the FDA, the GE salmon shows "no biologically relevant differences" in its nutritional profile compared to other non-GE farm-raised Atlantic salmon.
The agency also considered the possibility that these GE salmon could end up mixing with other salmon and determined that the AquAdvanatage salmon farms in Panama and Canada "make it extremely unlikely that the fish could escape and establish themselves in the wild."
There are multiple physical barriers to prevent AquAdvantage fish or their eggs from slipping out through these farms' plumbing systems. If a fish were to escape or be otherwise introduced into other salmon population, the FDA says it would not matter because the AquAdvantage Salmon are reproductively sterile.
Today's approval will not allow AquAdantage salmon to be raised in the U.S. Only the facilities explicitly included in the approval can provide these GE fish for sale in America.
Though the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act) gives the FDA the authority to require mandatory labeling of foods if there is a material difference between a GE product and its conventional counterpart, the agency says it is not requiring labeling of these GE fish "Because the data and information evaluated show that AquAdvantage Salmon is not materially different from other Atlantic salmon."
Instead, the FDA says that it will be up to the sellers of these fish to voluntarily decide whether they choose to label their product as GE.
Genetically engineered animals fall under the FDA's regulatory umbrella because the recombinant DNA (rDNA) introduced into the animals meets the legal definition of a drug.
In this case, the GE salmon use an rDNA construct composed of the growth hormone gene from Chinook salmon under the control of a promoter from another type of fish called an "ocean pout." According to the FDA, this tweak to the DNA allows the salmon to grow to market size faster than non-GE farm-raised salmon.
Today's news did not go over well with our colleagues at Consumers Union, especially because of the FDA's decision to forgo labeling of the GE fish.
"We are deeply disappointed with the FDA's decision to approve the AquaAdvantage salmon. And it's even more concerning that the FDA chose not to require any form of labeling, making it extremely difficult for consumers to know if the salmon is GE or not," says Michael Hansen PhD, Senior Scientist with Consumers Union. "Consumers deserve to know what type of food they're buying – and an overwhelming majority has told us that they want genetically modified food labeled in poll after poll. The decision to not require a GE label for this product takes away the consumer's ability to make a truly informed choice."
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Three killed, nine injured in attack on Colorado abortion clinic (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/28/us-colorado-shooter-idUSKBN0TG27D20151128)
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A gunman stormed a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic in Colorado Springs on Friday and opened fire with a rifle in an attack that left three people dead and nine others injured, authorities said.
The dead included one police officer and two civilians, Colorado Springs Police Chief Peter Carey told reporters about an hour after the suspect had been captured. All nine surviving victims - five police officers and four civilians - were listed in good condition at area hospitals, Carney said. The suspect first engaged in a gun battle with police but ultimately surrendered to officers inside the building about five hours after the start of the violence, which played out under a steady snowfall in Colorado's second-largest city.A Reuters photographer at the scene saw a man in a white T-shirt with his hands cuffed behind his back being taken out of an armored police vehicle and placed in an unmarked squad car.Police said they did not expect to confirm the suspect's identity before Saturday, but believed he acted alone.The Denver Post and the Colorado Springs Gazette newspapers, each citing an unidentified law enforcement source, reported Friday night that the suspect was identified as Robert Lewis Dear. The Post gave his age as 57, but neither paper had further details.The slain lawman was identified as Garrett Swasey, 44, a campus police officer for the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs who joined city police in responding to the first reports of shots fired, authorities said.Police declined to discuss the gunman's motivations. But the president of the Rocky Mountains chapter of Planned Parenthood, Vicki Cowart, suggested a climate of rancor surrounding abortion in the United States sets the stage for such violence."We share the concerns of many Americans that extremists are creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism in this country," she said.Cowart told CNN separately that some of the clinic's staff escaped the gunman by following security protocol and hunkering down in "safe rooms" built into the facility.The Colorado Springs clinic has been the target of repeated protests by anti-abortion activists, and in recent years moved to new quarters on the city's northwest side - a facility derided as a "fortress" by critics of Planned Parenthood.
he national non-profit group, devoted to providing a range of reproductive health services, including abortions, has come under renewed pressure in recent months from conservatives in Congress seeking to cut off federal support for the organization.CHECKING FOR EXPLOSIVESColorado Springs Mayor John Suthers said authorities were able to help guide the movements of officers through the building by watching live feeds from surveillance cameras mounted inside.But a city police spokeswoman, Lieutenant Catherine Buckley, said it took officers a number of hours to establish communication with the suspect before he gave himself up. "We did get officers inside the building. They were able to shout to the suspect and make communication with him and at that point they were able to get him to surrender and he was taken into custody," Buckley said. An hour earlier, police said progress in securing the building was slowed by the fact that the gunman brought "some bags" with him into the clinic and left several items outside, all of which needed to be checked for possible booby traps or explosives.After the arrest, Buckley said it would take hours more, and perhaps days, for investigators to fully process the crime scene.CNN reported that investigators had located the suspect's car, and the vehicle would be searched for explosives.Police swarmed the area around the building after an emergency call reporting shots fired at about 11:30 a.m. Mountain Time, and officers ultimately confronted the suspect inside the building, Buckley said.Television footage aired by CNN showed a number of clinic staff and patients being escorted safely into police vehicles from the building, which lies on the northwest side of Colorado Springs, about 70 miles (112 km) south of Denver.The FBI and agents from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were assisting local investigators.
President Barack Obama was notified of the shooting by his Homeland Security adviser, Lisa Monaco, and "will be updated on the situation as necessary, a White House official said. DEEPLY DIVISIVE ISSUEAs in much of the rest of the country, abortion is a divisive issue in Colorado, figuring prominently in attack ads during last year's U.S. Senate race between incumbent Democrat Mark Udall and Republican challenger Cory Gardner, the winner of the election.At least eight abortion clinic workers have been killed since 1977, according to the National Abortion Federation - most recently in 2009, when abortion doctor George Tiller was shot to death at church in Wichita, Kansas. Clinics have reported nearly 7,000 incidents of trespassing, vandalism, arson, death threats, and other forms of violence since then, according to the abortion-rights group. Colorado Springs was the scene of a mass shooting on Oct. 31 in which a gunman killed three people near downtown before dying in a shootout with police.The city, home to the U.S. Air Force Academy and the U.S. Olympic training center, is also a hub for conservative Christian groups such as Focus on the Family that oppose abortion.The attack in Colorado sparked jitters across the country. The New York City Police Department reported it had redeployed some of its "critical response" vehicles to Planned Parenthood locations throughout the city. However, it said there were no specific threats to those sites at this time.
Ove brojke su zaista sulude:
http://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook (http://www.vox.com/a/mass-shootings-sandy-hook)
Problem je što ti mediji daju jednu sliku, a ti živiš u drugoj. Onda popizdiš, jer bi i ti u te medije, a nema drugog načina.
Kalifornija, masovni pokolj, za sada najmanje 14 mrtvih, dva perpa, muški i ženski. (http://news.yahoo.com/learning-suspects-san-bernardino-mass-221256739.html)
бизарно
Woman stabbed at Art Basel, witnesses thought it was art (http://pagesix.com/2015/12/04/woman-stabbed-at-art-basel-witnesses-thought-it-was-art/?_ga=1.4310331.900017482.1434638142&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow)
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One woman stabbed another during a fight at world-famous Art Basel Miami Beach, causing at least one patron to think he was watching performance art.
Miami Beach Detective Kathleen Prieto told the Miami Herald the suspect stabbed the victim's arms and neck during Friday's fight. She said the victim is being treated for non-life threatening injuries. The suspect was arrested.
The fight happened near an exhibit by artist Naomi Fisher. She told the Herald one witness thought it was a performance with fake blood until he realized the blood was real.
The paper says others thought the police tape cordoning the area was an installation.
Art Basel Miami Beach spokeswoman Sara Fitzmaurice said in an email to The Associated Press Friday, "The attack was an isolated incident that was immediately secured. Our thoughts are with the victim."
Art Basel Miami Beach is the extension of the annual contemporary art fair in Basel, Switzerland, and is attended by thousands.
лепо је кад се чак и на цнну појави глас разума (овог пута у облику конгресменке тулси габард, са хаваја)
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHkher6ceaA#)
Heh, vont sambadi tink ov d čildrn:
7th grader told his Star Wars shirt isn't allowed in school (http://abc13.com/news/7th-grader-told-his-star-wars-shirt-isnt-allowed-in-school/1119401/)
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ROSENBERG, TX (KTRK) -- A 7th grader in Rosenberg says he was forced by school administrators to cover up his Star Wars t-shirt.
Joe Southern says his son, Colton, wore a shirt depicting the "Star Wars - The Force Awakens" logo, along with a Storm Trooper holding a weapon, to class Thursday at George Junior High School. He's apparently worn it to school several times before without any issue.
On Thursday, though, school officials told Colton the shirt was banned because it has a gun, or at least a picture of what in the movie is weapon.
"It's political correctness run amok. You're talking about a Star Wars t-shirt, a week before the biggest movie of the year comes out. It has nothing to do with guns or making a stand. It's just a Star Wars shirt," Southern said.
A spokesperson for Lamar Consolidated Independent School District says the LCISD secondary school handbook spells out potential violations of dress code. The list includes "symbols oriented toward violence."
Administrators say they did not reprimand the student, though they could have required him to change or assigned him in-school suspension. They say they only required him to zip up his jacket.
Southern says the incident, in his opinion, amounts to a violation of the first amendment. He says the weapon shown is fictional as is the character holding it and that any implication his son would hurt anyone would be incorrect.
"He's a Boy Scout, active in church, volunteers at Brazos Bend State Park. There's not a violent bone in his body. He's just an excited kid for the movie," said Southern.
Dakle, mi se smejali Donaldu Trampu a on:
Donald Trump: Hillary Clinton 'killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity' (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-killed-164147972.html)
QuoteDonald Trump claimed Sunday that Hillary Clinton "killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity" with her decisions as secretary of state, seemingly shocking his interviewer.
In a "Fox News Sunday" interview, Trump said Clinton and President Barack Obama's foreign-policy decisions in Africa and the Middle East resulted in the deaths of "hundreds of thousands" of people.
"She is the one that caused all this problem with her stupid policies. You look at what she did with Libya, what she did with Syria. Look at Egypt, what happened with Egypt, a total mess."
"She was truly — if not the — one of the worst secretaries of state in the history of the country," he added. "She talks about me being dangerous. She's killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity."
Wallace pushed Trump to clarify what he meant.
"The Middle East is a total disaster under her," Trump said.
Trump was responding to an interview this week in which Clinton said Trump's plan to temporarily ban most Muslims from traveling to the US was dangerous (http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-seth-meyers-2015-12).
"He has gone way over the line. And what he's saying now is not only shameful and wrong — it's dangerous," Clinton said.
The former secretary of state said Trump's proposal "plays right into the hands of terrorists" by alienating Muslims in Western countries and framing terrorism as a clash between Islam and the West.
"I don't say that lightly, but it does. He is giving them a great propaganda tool, a way to recruit more folks from Europe and the United States," Clinton said. "And because it's kind of crossed that line, I think everybody and especially other Republicans need to stand up and say, 'Enough. You've gone too far.'"
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tramp je bijelac, to mu ipak daje fasisticku dimenziju; dok crnac ne moze biti los.
...'el se meni cini il' se ovaj Tramp umislio da je nas Secerovski....
Zanimljivo...postavić ovu fotku na fejsu. Eto neke vajde i od Bate.
sećate se onog šiptara koji je nedavno zgrozio ceo svet kad je nenormalno digo cene onog nekog leka, itd?
UAPSILI GA! :-D
CEO Who Price Gouged HIV Drug Arrested
Martin Shkreli was arrested by the FBI in New York on securities fraud charges.
Reuters
Nate Raymond
12/17/2015 07:06 am ET
NEW YORK, Dec 17 (Reuters) - Martin Shkreli, a lightning rod for growing outrage over soaring prescription drug prices, was arrested in New York by the FBI on Thursday on securities fraud charges involving his former hedge fund and a pharmaceutical company he previously headed.
Shkreli, who is now chief executive officer of Turing Pharmaceuticals and KaloBios Pharmaceuticals Inc, was charged in a federal indictment related to his time managing hedge fund MSMB Capital Management and heading biopharmaceutical company Retrophin Inc.
The indictment, filed in Brooklyn, New York, also charged Evan Greebel, a former partner at law firm Katten Muchin Rosenmann who was Retrophin's outside counsel.
Brooklyn U.S. Attorney Robert Capers is scheduled to hold a press conference with officials from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission at noon EST (1700 GMT) to announce the charges, his office said.
Reuters witnessed Shkreli's arrest at the Murray Hill Tower Apartments in midtown Manhattan. Law enforcement including Federal Bureau of Investigation agents could be seen escorting Shkreli, who was wearing a hoodie, into a car.
FBI spokeswoman Kelly Langmesser confirmed the arrests of Shkreli and Greebel.
Shares of KaloBios fell 53 percent at $11.03 in the premarket before trading in them was halted. Retrophin, which said in a statement that it had fully cooperated with the government investigations of Shkreli, was nearly unchanged in early trading.
Turing and KaloBios declined to comment. A lawyer for Shkreli did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Efforts to reach Greebel were not immediately successful, and a lawyer could not be immediately identified.
A privately held startup, Turing sparked controversy earlier this year after news reports that it had raised the price of Daraprim, a 62-year-old treatment for a dangerous parasitic infection, to $750 a tablet from $13.50 after acquiring it.
The charges predate Turing and relate to Shkreli's management of New York-based hedge fund MSMB Capital Management, whose closure he announced in 2012, and his time as CEO of Retrophin from 2012 to 2014.
The indictment said Shkreli made false representations to MSMB investors to draw in $3 million in investments.
After MSMB suffered devastating trading losses in 2011 and ceased trading, Shkreli for months sent fabricated updates to investors touting profits of as high as 40 percent since inception, the indictment said.
He also solicited $5 million from investors for another fund, MSMB Healthcare Management LP, while concealing his performance managing MSMB Capital and a prior fund and providing investors an inflated valuation of his then-private firm Retrophin, the indictment said.
To pay back the MSMB funds' investors, Shkreli and Greebel misappropriated $11 million in Retrophin assets through settlement agreements and sham consulting deals, according to the indictment.
The case mirrors a lawsuit Retrophin filed in August against Shkreli in federal court in Manhattan for $65 million, claiming he had used his control over Retrophin to enrich himself and pay off MSMB investors' claims.
Shkreli has denied the allegations.
The case is separate from the ongoing drug pricing controversy that had in recent weeks enveloped Shkreli and Turing Pharmaceuticals.
At least two separate Congressional probes have been launched since September on the pricing issues of Daraprim, which had long been available as a generic drug used to treat toxoplasmosis in AIDS patients. Turing is under investigation by the New York state attorney general for antitrust concerns.
At a Senate hearing on drug pricing last week, a doctor who treats babies with life-threatening toxoplasmosis testified that a course of treatment with Daraprim went from about $1,200 to no less than $69,000.
(Reporting by Nate Raymond; Editing by Ted Kerr and Lisa Von Ahn)
a već ga i zajebavaju:
:D
Lawyer for Martin Shkreli Hikes Fees Five Thousand Per Cent
BY ANDY BOROWITZ
BROOKLYN (The Borowitz Report)—A criminal lawyer representing Turing Pharmaceuticals chief Martin Shkreli has informed his client that he is raising his hourly legal fees by five thousand per cent, the lawyer has confirmed.
Minutes after Shkreli's arrest on charges of securities fraud, the attorney, Harland Dorrinson, announced that he was hiking his fees from twelve hundred dollars an hour to sixty thousand dollars.
Shkreli, who reportedly received the news about the price hike while he was being fingerprinted, cried foul and accused his attorney of "outrageous and inhumane price gouging."
"This is the behavior of a sociopath," Shkreli was heard screaming.
For his part, Shkreli's lawyer was unmoved by his client's complaint. "Compared to what he pays for an hour of Wu-Tang Clan, sixty thou is a bargain," he said.
Eric Posner je, vele, četvrti najcitiraniji profesor prava u SAD. Njegova nova, hm, zamisao je otprilike ovo: pošto je propaganda Islamske Države na internetu tako moćna i živimo u vremenu kada neprijatelju nikada nije bilo lakše da američkom građaninu servira tu propagandu, možda bi bilo razumno da se sam pristup određenim vebsajtovima, nakon dovoljnog broja upozorenja kvalifikuje kao krivično delo zbog kog se ljudi mogu zatvarati. Lend ov d fri houm ov d brejv i tako to:
ISIS Gives Us No Choice but to Consider Limits on Speech (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/view_from_chicago/2015/12/isis_s_online_radicalization_efforts_present_an_unprecedented_danger.single.html)
Kad je tako pametan četvrti, kakvi li su prvi troje?
Pripazi se ti dok si tamo šta radiš po internetu, vidiš da su službe spremne da nasrnu i na prvi amandman ako treba.
Pazim ja i mislim se ko će od nas pre proći gore.
A ko dole.
OjebemteAmeriko...
Another 'Clock kid'? Family outraged as 12-year-old Sikh boy arrested over alleged bomb threat at Texas school (http://www.cantonrep.com/article/ZZ/20151218/SHAREABLE/151219931/1994/NEWS)
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It's the "clock kid" all over again: A 12-year-old Sikh boy is the latest victim of racist terrorism paranoia (http://www.salon.com/2015/12/18/its_the_clock_kid_all_over_again_a_12_year_old_sikh_boy_is_the_latest_victim_of_racist_terrorism_paranoia/)
Poverty stunts IQ in the US but not in other developed countries (http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/12/poverty-stunts-iq-in-the-us-but-not-in-other-developed-countries/)
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As a child develops, a tug of war between genes and environment settles the issue of the child's intelligence. One theory on how that struggle plays out proposes that among advantaged kids—with the pull of educational resources—DNA largely wins, allowing genetic variation to settle smarts. At the other end of the economic spectrum, the strong arm of poverty drags down genetic potential in the disadvantaged.
But over the years, researchers have gone back and forth on this theory, called the Scarr-Rowe hypothesis. It has held up in some studies, but inexplicably slipped away in others, leaving researchers puzzled over the deciding factors in the nature-vs-nurture battle. Now, researchers think they know why.
In a new meta-analysis of 14 psychology studies from the past few decades, researchers found that the strength of poverty's pull differed by country, with US poverty providing the only forceful yank (http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/12/14/0956797615612727.abstract)among developed nations. The authors, who published the results in Psychological Science, speculate that the wider inequalities in education and medical access in the US may explain poverty's extra power. The finding could not only resolve the data discrepancies of the past, but it may also lead researchers to a more nuanced understanding of poverty's effects on IQ and how to thwart them.
"It's a terrific meta-analysis," psychologist Eric Turkheimer of the University of Virginia, who was not involved with the study, told Ars. The authors "sort out, really, a lot of the ambiguity," he said.
In the analysis, by Elliot Tucker-Drob of the University of Texas at Austin and Timothy Bates of the University of Edinburgh, researchers harvested data from 14 studies involving siblings, many twins. To be included in the analysis, the studies had to objectively measure intelligence and socioeconomic status of the kids. In all, the researchers captured data on 24,926 pairs of twins and siblings, which were fairly evenly distributed between the US and non-US countries, including Australia, England, Sweden, Germany, and the Netherlands.
When they separated the data by location, the authors found that the brute force of poverty in the US clearly pushed aside genetic influence on intelligence. But, the same relationship was not seen in any of the other countries.
That doesn't mean that poverty is simply making US kids dumber, Turkheimer cautions. The situation is a little more nuanced. Imagine the siblings in the studies are flower seeds, he said. Those related seeds inherit genes that fix their IQ within a range of IQs that depends on their parents. Now, if you put those seeds in rich soil with all the nutrients and resources they could want, the flowers will grow to slightly different heights, based on genetic variation. But, if the seeds are grown in sandy, nutrient and resource-poor soil, those impoverished seeds will all be stunted. Basically, they'll all turn out about the same height, he said.
So, Turkheimer said, kids in poverty all end up on the low side of their IQ window, losing that variation normally seen from genetics.
While the authors speculate that inequalities in educational and medical access in the US may beef up poverty's effects, Turkheimer thinks school environments in particular may be to blame. He plans to follow up on the findings in his own work.
But, for now, researchers may at least be able to put to bed the debate of the Scar-Rowe hypothesis, Rob Kirkpatrick, a psychiatric and behavioral genetics researcher at the Virginia Commonwealth University, told Ars. "It goes a long way toward helping to explain the mixed replication record of the Scarr-Rowe interaction by showing that only studies from the United States, and not those from other Western nations, provide evidence for it," he said.
Psychological Science, 2015. DOI: 10.1177/0956797615612727 (http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/12/14/0956797615612727.abstract) (About DOIs (http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/03/dois-and-their-discontents-1.ars)).
New Obama vacation costs uncovered; They now exceed $70 million (http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/123015-787012-obama-vacation-expenses-already-exceed-70-million-dollars.htm)
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As Barack, Michelle, Malia and Sasha Obama, family, friends, pets and staff enjoy their half-month-long Hawaiian vacation, the Secret Service finally complied with a court order to release some Obama vacation expenses from two years ago.
That's how eager the Obama administration is about being transparent when it comes to spending large sums of taxpayers' money on itself.
As with the slow-motion releases of Hillary Clinton's emails, the idea of bureaucratic stalling, of course, is that the details become "old" news more likely to be ignored by media. Fortunately, we're not on vacation this week, so we can help the president out. Here goes:
The new expense reports, heavily-redacted allegedly for security reasons, push the total known costs for vacations during Obama's reign to nearly $71 million -- with another full year to go. That's about $10.1 million per year in known expenses.
The totals come from Judicial Watch (http://www.judicialwatch.org/), the dogged watchdog group that pursues such information through repeated Freedom of Information Act requests.
Earlier this year Judicial Watch obtained transportation costs for a pair of the Democrat's cross-country golf weekends just in 2015. They totaled nearly $2 million (http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/101915-776181-obama-golf-travel-expenses-revealed-judicial-watch.htm?ntt=Travel), or $20,000 per hole, the Washington Examiner calculated.
In February, for instance, Obama spent President's Weekend golfing with male friends in Palm Springs. At $206,000 per flight hour, that trip set taxpayers back $1.03 million. That does not include other costs such as security and transportation.
Of course, even with Camp David available for free in Maryland every president goes on vacation, though none have gone so far so often as the Obamas, sometimes in separate planes.
Their family trips to Hawaii, for example, require at least 18 hours of Air Force One flight time at $206,000 per flight hour. Or $3.7 million minimum.
Complaints of over-spending on personal travel have dogged this first couple starting with Michelle Obama's luxury vacation with friends to Spain at the peak of the recession and subsequent family excursions during the nation's weakest economic recovery since World War II.
As we reported earlier this year (http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/032515-745018-michelle-obama-travel-expenses.htm?ntt=Michelle+Obama+travel+expense+update%3a): The Obamas have "traveled more than any other first family, often with Mrs. Obama's mother and her friends. By the summer of 2014 the Obamas had taken 31 international trips lasting 119 days. At the same point in his presidency, Ronald Reagan had taken 14 such trips over 73 days.
"When the family visited Ireland in 2013, taxpayers were hit for just under $8 million, including a quarter-million dollars for a two-day side-trip to Dublin for the Obama women. They chose a $3,500-per-night hotel suite in addition to 29 other rooms for their traveling party at the five-star hotel.
What's Happening in Oregon Is Nothing Less Than Armed Sedition (http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a40914/oregon-bundy-militia/)
"If three years ago any person had told me that at this day, I should see such a formidable rebellion against the laws & constitutions of our own making as now appears I should have thought him a bedlamite—a fit subject for a mad house."—George Washington to Henry Knox, on the subject of Shays Rebellion, February 3, 1787
You have to give Captain Daniel Shays this: When he launched his armed sedition against lawful authority, he at least was invited in. Overnight on Saturday, in an obscure corner of the Oregon wilderness, and contrary to the law, and in defiance of democratic authority, both federal and local, another act of armed sedition was committed (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.oregonlive.com_pacific-2Dnorthwest-2Dnews_index.ssf_2016_01_drama-5Fin-5Fburns-5Fends-5Fwith-5Fquiet.html&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=2tv5ouGuZ3OUL42RauXnO55zSH_92u3BGEgdgNJbNIk&m=6sTA97N02SDYCZk5q0RtcsHwhZKMhdYK2_wUvOpxu8E&s=HSiso21dP_MGYjef5zq7B1mIU62dP9yQr6fbOPZsSpQ&e=). It seems to me that this ought to be a bigger story than, say, the belated prosecution of Bill Cosby, or whatever most recently came out of the mouth of the vulgar talking yam. In a small place in Oregon, the essential compact of the United States of America has come apart.
The Bundy family of Nevada joined with hard-core militiamen Saturday to take over the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, vowing to occupy the remote federal outpost 30 miles southeast of Burns for years. The occupation came shortly after an estimated 300 marchers—militia and local citizens both—paraded through Burns to protest the prosecution of two Harney County ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and Steven Hammond, who are to report to prison on Monday. Among the occupiers is Ammon Bundy, son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, and two of his brothers. Militia members at the refuge claimed they had as many as 100 supporters with them. The refuge, federal property managed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, was closed and unoccupied for the holiday weekend.
(This is also something you have to give to Captain Daniel Shays. He put a little more of his ass on the line. His act of armed sedition aimed a little higher than the occupation of the vacant headquarters of a bird sanctuary.)
Before moving on to the larger issues, it's important to note that the local authorities, and the local citizenry, want no part of this noisy claque of armed meatheads (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cbsnews.com_news_oregon-2Dranchers-2Dreject-2Dcliven-2Dbundy-2Dfamily-2Doccupation_&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=2tv5ouGuZ3OUL42RauXnO55zSH_92u3BGEgdgNJbNIk&m=6sTA97N02SDYCZk5q0RtcsHwhZKMhdYK2_wUvOpxu8E&s=hadMoSFBVOU4uECfQyrkEjKd2fVb-ym6sSFGLEFSn6U&e=). It is popular among these people who apparently have brains wired like short-wave radios broadcasting from upper Michigan to say that the real constitutional authority in this country resides in its local sheriffs. Well, the local sheriff in this case would like it very much if this particular invasive species would abandon his jurisdiction and go back to freeloading on federal lands in Nevada.
Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward told people to stay away from the building as authorities work to defuse the situation,
The Oregonian (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__is.gd_bK7d4E&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=2tv5ouGuZ3OUL42RauXnO55zSH_92u3BGEgdgNJbNIk&m=6sTA97N02SDYCZk5q0RtcsHwhZKMhdYK2_wUvOpxu8E&s=gl_7-jGd9lgo8iziwXUUJfDIiHaxmMf072X3LiTU4JE&e=) reported."A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution. For the time being please stay away from that area. More information will be provided as it becomes available. Please maintain a peaceful and united front and allow us to work through this situation," Ward said in a statement.Hell, even the convicted arsonists on whose behalf this action allegedly was undertaken have distanced themselves from these clowns.
The Hammonds said they have not welcomed the Bundy's help. "Neither Ammon Bundy nor anyone within his group/organization speak for the Hammond Family," the Hammonds' lawyer W. Alan Schroeder wrote to Sheriff David Ward.
This is an act of armed sedition against lawful authority. That is all that it is, and that is quite enough. This is not "an expression of anti-government sentiment." (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.denverpost.com_ci-5F29333613_oregon-2Dranching-2Dcase-2Dsparks-2Danti-2Dgovernment-2Dsentiment&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=2tv5ouGuZ3OUL42RauXnO55zSH_92u3BGEgdgNJbNIk&m=6sTA97N02SDYCZk5q0RtcsHwhZKMhdYK2_wUvOpxu8E&s=fBrDGNpoZLj-WOCY3SWb18A4v3WOJMR5BvUViaS0UAc&e=) Flipping off the governor as he drives by is "an expression of anti-government sentiment." What Alex Jones does every day is "an expression of anti-government sentiment," and god bless them all for it. That's what the Founders had in mind. This is not an "occupation" following "a peaceful protest." (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__abcnews.go.com_US_wireStory_peaceful-2Dprotest-2Doregon-2Dwildlife-2Drefuge-2Daction-2D36061121&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=2tv5ouGuZ3OUL42RauXnO55zSH_92u3BGEgdgNJbNIk&m=6sTA97N02SDYCZk5q0RtcsHwhZKMhdYK2_wUvOpxu8E&s=_DYjIuRGfIpKhuea5_25ynsr7ohvDy7_ztiN_gipSzM&e=) That would be all those folks who got bludgeoned and pepper-sprayed out of Zuccotti Park a couple of years back. (And when exactly did ABC News decide it wasn't a news organization anymore?) These are men with guns who have declared themselves outside the law. These are men with guns who have taken something that belongs to all of us. These are traitors and thieves who got away with this dangerous nonsense once, and have been encouraged to get away with it again, and they draw their inspiration not solely from the wilder fringes of our politics, either. Ammon Bundy and his brothers should have been thrown in jail after they gathered themselves in rebellion the first time.
This is another step down the road that leads to the broken shell of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. There are respectable people in our respectable politics who have been shamefully silent on the subject, and there are respectable people in our respectable media who seem terrified of calling this what it is. You want an example of the deadening effect of "political correctness" in our politics? Watch what the people running for president have to say about this episode. Look at how it is being framed already—or ignored entirely—by the elite political media. There is a constituency for armed rebellion in this country that is larger than any of our respectable political and social institutions want to admit. It is fueled by reckless, ambitious people who engage in reckless, ambitious rhetoric.
It did not begin in Burns. It did not begin on the Bundy Ranch, either. In its most modern form, and in the form most relevant to recent events, it began, as so many noxious elements of our politics did, with the Reagan Administration. It began with a man named Ron Arnold (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.publiceye.org_magazine_v07n2_wiseuse.html&d=CwMFaQ&c=B73tqXN8Ec0ocRmZHMCntw&r=2tv5ouGuZ3OUL42RauXnO55zSH_92u3BGEgdgNJbNIk&m=6sTA97N02SDYCZk5q0RtcsHwhZKMhdYK2_wUvOpxu8E&s=0sO3NlYkDTEt6BS_TI0Q1bAndB3H7ZlhaqVcmf_lKes&e=), and a Secretary of the Interior named James Watt, and in something called the Wise Use movement with which the Republican party (and the conservative movement that became its fundamental life force) allied itself for its political advantage in the western part of the country.
Much of this popularity can be explained by the lingering economic recession of the early 1980s, which provided a receptive grassroots audience for the Wise Use claim that it is easier to force nature to adapt to current corporate policies than to encourage the growth of more environmentally sound ways of doing business. Wise Use pamphlets argue that extinction is a natural process; some species weren't meant to survive. The movement's signature public relations tactic is to frame complex environmental and economic issues in simple, scapegoating terms that benefit its corporate backers. In the movement's Pacific Northwest birthplace, Wise Users harp on a supposed battle for survival between spotted owls and the families of the men and women who make their livings harvesting and milling the old growth timber that is the owl's habitat. In preparation for President Clinton's forest summit in Portland, Oregon, Wise Use public relations experts ran seminars to teach loggers how to speak in sound bites. Messages such as "jobs versus owls" have been adapted to a variety of environmental issues and have helped spark an anti-green backlash that has defeated river protection efforts and threatens to open millions of acres of wilderness to resource extraction.
That was the respectable—if undeniably destructive—part of the movement. Its philosophy, however, was embraced by the growing militia movement in the same part of the country. Its philosophy ran in poisoned tributaries to all points of the political compass until it gathered itself into a great reservoir of toxic fantasy, and that is where the essential compact of the United States of America was encouraged to break down.
There is no actual tyranny in this country against which to take up arms. There is bureaucratic inertia. There is pigheaded bureaucracy. There even is political chicanery. But there is no actual tyranny in the Endangered Species Act, or in the Bureau of Land Management, or in the Environmental Protection Agency, or in the Affordable Care Act, or in IRS dumbassery, or even in whatever it is that the president plans to say about guns in the next week or so. Anyone who argues that actual tyranny exists is a dangerous charlatan who should be mocked from the public square. Anyone who argues that there is out of political ambition, or for their own personal profit, should be shunned by decent people until they regain whatever moral compass they once had.
It does us no good to ignore what is going on in this obscure little corner of the Pacific Northwest. It does us no good to refuse to hold to account the politics that led to this, and the politicians who sought to profit from it. It does us no good to deny that there is a substantial constituency for armed sedition in this country, and to deny the necessity of delegitimizing that constituency in our politics, and the first step in that process is to face it and to call it what it is.
And, in related news, of course, Tamir Rice is still dead.
Vezano za isti incident:
This Comic Sums up the Double Standard Used to Excuse White Violence (http://news.yahoo.com/comic-sums-double-standard-used-221043479.html?nf=1)
Erekcija koju investitori dobijaju kada razmišljaju o share-economy firmama će nas sve odvesti u propast. Dženeral Motors sada investira pola milijarde dolara u Lyft. Lyft je, za publiku sa jeftinijim ulaznicama, isto što i Uber ali sa očigledno malo slabijim tviter skilovima...
General Motors, Gazing at Future, Invests $500 Million in Lyft (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/05/technology/gm-invests-in-lyft.html?_r=0)
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The founders of Lyft (https://www.lyft.com/), the ride-hailing service, have long imagined that the future of transportation would involve fewer cars on the road. Now General Motors (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/companies/general_motors_corporation/index.html?inline=nyt-org) is helping the start-up reach that goal.
Lyft announced on Monday that G.M. had invested $500 million in the company, or half of its latest $1 billion venture financing round (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/18/business/dealbook/lyft-said-to-seek-dollar500-million-in-funding.html). The funding, which recently closed, values Lyft at $4.5 billion, not including the new capital.
G.M.'s support includes more than financial backing. As part of the investment, G.M. and Lyft will work on developing an on-demand network of self-driving cars, an area of research that companies like Google, Tesla and Uber have all devoted enormous resources to in recent years.
G.M. will also work with Lyft to set up a series of short-term car rental hubs across the United States, places where people who do not own cars can pick up a vehicle and drive for Lyft to earn money. Daniel Ammann, president of G.M., will join the board of Lyft, which is based in San Francisco.
"We strongly believe that autonomous vehicle go-to-market strategy is through a network, not through individual car ownership," John Zimmer, president of Lyft, said in an interview.
G.M.'s $500 million interest in Lyft is the single largest direct investment by an auto manufacturer into a ride-hailing company in the United States, according to data from PitchBook, an alliance that pairs an auto stalwart with the kind of start-up trying to disrupt it. The investment reflects how much consumer automotive habits have been changed by technology over the last decade. With the rise of ride-sharing companies, car manufacturers have raced to adapt to how people can now use each other's vehicles for rides, which could potentially lead to a decline in car ownership.
The shifts have started a spate of partnerships between carmakers and auto-related start-ups. In 2011, G.M. teamed up with RelayRides (http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2011/Oct/1005_relay.html), a car-sharing marketplace, to let G.M. auto owners rent out their idle vehicles. Ford struck a similar deal (http://blog.getaround.com/getaround-partners-with-ford-to-drive-future-of-carsharing/) last year with Getaround, another car-sharing marketplace start-up. And Daimler has been experimenting with Car2Go (https://www.car2go.com/en/austin/), a Zipcar-like service that offers SmartCar rentals in urban areas like Brooklyn, Berlin and Toronto.
In an interview, Mr. Ammann said G.M. wanted to be part of the changing business models in transportation. "We think there's going to be more change in the world of mobility in the next five years than there has been in the last 50," he said.
Mr. Ammann added that the core profit from G.M.'s business comes from cars sold outside the urban environments where Lyft primarily operates, especially sales of sport utility vehicles in suburban areas.
"From a G.M. perspective, we view this as much more of an opportunity than a threat," he said.
G.M.'s investment is also a vote of confidence in Lyft, which faces a competitive ride-hailing field. Founded in 2012, Lyft helped promote the ride-sharing craze in the United States, positioning itself as a superior alternative to owning a car or using public transportation. Lyft users can summon a private or shared car with a few taps of an app. Advertisement
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Continue reading the main story (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/05/technology/gm-invests-in-lyft.html?_r=0#story-continues-8) Lyft and G.M. did not give a specific timeline for when they expected their autonomous vehicle network to become publicly available, nor did the companies offer details on how the network is expected to function.
It will most likely be some time before a fully autonomous network of cars becomes a reality. Early rules for self-driving vehicles may hinder the speed of progress. California recently passed legislation requiring a driver to be behind the wheel (http://recode.net/2015/12/16/google-gravely-disappointed-with-californias-new-rules-for-self-driving-cars/) of a self-driving car at all times.
A mix of Lyft's existing investors, including the Asian e-commerce giants Rakuten and Alibaba, also contributed to the most recent financing round, as did the Chinese ride-hailing start-up Didi Kuaidi.
Uber, Lyft's largest and most formidable rival, has raised more than $10 billion to date, and is valued at $62.5 billion (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/business/dealbook/uber-nears-investment-at-a-62-5-billion-valuation.html), about 14 times Lyft's new valuation. Uber operates in hundreds of cities in 67 countries. The company also operates its own research center for self-driving (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/02/02/uber-to-open-center-for-research-on-self-driving-cars/) cars in Pittsburgh and is steadily recruiting engineering talent from Carnegie Mellon University as well as from competitors like Google, whose efforts on autonomous vehicle research (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/28/technology/googles-next-phase-in-driverless-cars-no-brakes-or-steering-wheel.html) have been well publicized.
Lyft has been working to catch up to Uber. The company recently teamed up with ride-hailing competitors in Asia (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/technology/lyft-joins-with-asian-rivals-to-compete-with-uber.html) like Didi Kuaidi, Ola and GrabTaxi to expand. It has also struck deals with major brands like Starbucks and pop stars like Justin Bieber to broaden its reach. Lyft also teamed with Hertz to offer rental cars to drivers who do not own vehicles, and struck a deal with Shell (http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/09/ride-hailing-company-lyft-partners-with-hertz-shell-to-gain-edge-over-uber.html) that gives gasoline discounts to Lyft drivers in a handful of cities.
Correction: January 4, 2016
An earlier version of this article misstated the number of countries in which Uber operates. It is 67, not 68.
Od prvog Januara u Teksasu imamo novu legislativu koja dopušta otvoreno nošenje oružja na javnim mestima (do sada se dopuštalo da se nosi prikriveno). Vlasnici restorana su sada u nuždi:
How Restaurants Are Responding to Texas's New Open Carry Law (http://www.eater.com/2016/1/8/10732130/open-carry-texas-guns-restaurants)
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Should guns be allowed in restaurants? With a new law in effect, restaurant owners must decide.
Starting on New Year's Day, some Texas diners began sporting a totally new kind of accessory not often seen in a restaurant setting. Last June, Texas Governor Greg Abbott signed a bill into law that would allow licensed handgun owners to openly display their weapons in public. Before the new law took effect on January 1, Texas was a "concealed carry" state, which explicitly forbade the open carrying of guns in public spaces.
A crucial provision in the law allows all businesses to opt out of the open carry policy, so long as they post a sign on the door alerting patrons that the open carrying of guns is verboten. But in a state so pro-gun as Texas — nearly one million Texans hold a concealed carry license (http://keranews.org/post/heres-what-you-should-know-about-open-carry-texas) — the political waters can be choppy for restaurants who are trying to decide whether or not they will allow patrons to openly display weapons in their establishments.
Ultimately, most restaurant owners in Texas are treading a fine line between entering a decidedly divisive, highly charged political discussion and maintaining the safety and flow of their establishments. In the overwhelming majority of cases, Texas's restaurateurs seem to be making their decisionsnot based on politics, but on practicality.Houston barbecue trailer owner Trent Brooks made national headlines (http://www.eater.com/2016/1/5/10718562/houston-restaurant-open-carry-discount) when he announced that his spot, Brooks' Place, would offer 25-percent discounts to diners who openly carried their weapons on January 1. The discount has since dropped to 10 percent, but Brooks says the new law didn't create much change at his own establishment, where firearms have long been welcome. "This is nothing new for us," Brooks says. "This discount was just our way of showing appreciation to our customers for having enough sense to want to protect their families, their businesses, and themselves should they have to. For us, it's an appreciation for the people who are carrying guns more than it is a political statement."
Before this deal went viral, Brooks had previously offered a discount to people who obtain a concealed carry license through a partnership with a local instructor. But as an occasional open-carrier himself, Brooks does respect individual businesses' right to opt out of the law. "That is their choice, and I respect that decision," he says. "I don't have a problem with businesses choosing to not allow open carry."
He does note, though, that his own business practices changed after the implementation of the open carry statute. Because his business doesn't have a liquor license, Brooks would give away free beer to diners, an entirely legal practice (https://www.tabc.state.tx.us/faq/licensing.asp) he recently stopped. "Once we allowed people to carry openly, I decided I didn't want them drinking two beers at Brooks' Place and getting behind the wheel of a car with a firearm," he says. "It's my way of protecting them and myself. I would hope that responsible gun owners wouldn't take their weapon into a place that is serving alcohol. Especially if that gun owner is consuming alcohol."
Even though the open-carrying of weapons is still not allowed in bars and other establishments that make 51 percent of their revenue from alcohol sales, restaurants on the opposite side of the equation are left with a difficult question to answer. Most restaurateurs in Texas are decidedly skeptical of allowing patrons to openly carry firearms in their establishments, perhaps due in some part to the 2014 protests staged by open carry activists (http://www.eater.com/2014/5/5/6230147/pro-gun-activists-terrify-fort-worth-restaurant-staff) in front of a Fort Worth Jack In The Box, where terrified employees hid from protesters in walk-in freezers.
Ever-opinionated Dallas chef John Tesar says his restaurants will not allow open carry. "Alcohol and guns are a very dangerous combination," Tesar says. "Why would you need to carry a gun in a nice restaurant where families and happy people are dining unless you're freaking paranoid? Given the amount of gun violence in this country, the last thing we need is more drunks carrying guns." At present, more than 50 Dallas restaurants have announced (http://www.dallasobserver.com/restaurants/a-list-of-dallas-restaurants-opting-out-of-open-carry-7908807) that they too will opt out of open carry, including hotspots like Matt McCallister's FT33 and Jack Perkins's Maple & Motor and the Slow Bone.
Dallas restaurateur Bradley Anderson, who owns Rapscallion and Boulevardier in addition to practicing law full-time, has opted out of open carry for his establishments, citing safety concerns. "Our primary reason for opting out of open carry is very simple," Anderson says. "At both Boulevardier and Rapscallion, it is our hope that our guests and staff feel secure. The idea of allowing exposed firearms runs contrary to said hope." He isn't, however, worried about angry protesters showing up on the sidewalks of his restaurants. "If we do get any protesters, I will offer them free Boulevardier and Rapscallion t-shirts to wear while protesting," says Anderson. "We are just a few of many businesses across the state who have chosen to opt out."
As an attorney, Anderson also raises questions about whether or not restaurants could find themselves responsible for any accidents or mishaps that occur as a result of their decision to allow patrons to carry openly. "Serving someone alcohol while they are wearing their six shooter just seems a little too 'wild west' for me," Anderson says. "Serving alcoholic beverages to a customer with an exposed firearm may bring up some interesting legal discussions down the road if an incident were to occur."
But according to Joseph Page, Professor Emeritus at Georgetown University Law Center, that apprehension may be misplaced. "The problem is that in order for a court to hold a restaurant liable in a personal injury or torts suit, the court would have to find that the restaurant had some duty to say 'no' to the practice — that anyone who said 'yes' is acting unreasonably," Page says. "That directly conflicts with the expression of public policy behind the statute. The legislature has said that it is reasonable to go either way, and that they'll leave it up to the restaurant owner."
That is, of course, unless the restaurant has created some sort of "peculiar circumstance" that would result in a measurable risk of harm if patrons are allowed to openly carry their weapons. In July of last year, the widow of a biker murdered in a gang melee (http://www.eater.com/2015/5/18/8622425/twin-peaks-in-waco-site-of-deadly-gun-battle-will-permanently-close) at a Waco, Texas Twin Peaks sued the restaurant for gross negligence (http://www.eater.com/2015/7/9/8921223/twin-peaks-restaurant-sued-widow-slain-texas-biker) following the brawl, which left nine people dead and resulted in nearly 200 arrests.
The suit alleges that Twin Peaks allowed biker gangs to gather outside of the Waco restaurant, despite warnings from police that tensions between gangs were rising. "The Waco case is a perfect example. You know you're getting this kind of clientele and it's a place where everybody should check their guns at the door," Page says. "Given the climate in the country — and especially in Texas where the lege passed this statute — you really would have to have an extreme case to have any chance of a court not dismissing the case."
In Houston, Blacksmith Coffee Bar and Greenway Coffee owner David Buehrer offers an entirely different reason for opting out of open-carry — quality of service. Buehrer was the first Houston business owner to display the "30.07" sign that prohibits gun owners from carrying in a private business. "We put the sign up January 1st at 7 a.m.," he said.
In order for his bustling coffee concepts to allow patrons to carry a handgun, staff would be forced to interrupt their established workflow and ask everyone with a gun to show their concealed carry license, which, in his view, would seriously impact the quality of service. "We already understand our workflow and how it affects things," he says. "If you have 300 customers a day and you have to take an extra 90 seconds with one or two customers, it affects everyone."
As such, the decision to opt-out of open carry was strictly business for Buehrer. "The thing that I am 100 percent most interested in is the service we provide our customers. If you look at that as the framework and heart of our business, there's no other decision to make," he says. "From a business perspective, I can't offer the same level of service and hospitality If I have to ask every person to show me their license to carry."
At the same time, Buehrer doesn't want to alienate the thousands of gun owners living in Houston. "Responsible gun owners are good people, kind of like crazy cat people," he says. "I don't agree with them, but I want them to feel like I respect them as customers. It's just easier for us to maintain our level of service if no one comes in with a gun that we can see."
Why Do Americans Work So Much? (http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/01/inequality-work-hours/422775/)
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The economist John Maynard Keynes predicted a society so prosperous that people would hardly have to work. But that isn't exactly how things have played out.
How will we all keep busy when we only have to work 15 hours a week? That was the question that worried the economist John Maynard Keynes when he wrote his short essay "Economic Possibilities for Our Grandchildren (http://www.econ.yale.edu/smith/econ116a/keynes1.pdf)" in 1930. Over the next century, he predicted, the economy would become so productive that people would barely need to work at all.
For a while, it looked like Keynes was right: In 1930 the average workweek was 47 hours. By 1970 it had fallen to slightly less than 39.
But then something changed. Instead of continuing to decline, the duration of the workweek stayed put; it's hovered just below 40 hours for nearly five decades.
So what happened? Why are people working just as much today as in 1970?
There would be no mystery in this if Keynes had been wrong about the economy's increasing productivity, which he thought would lead to a standard of living "between four and eight times as high as it is today." But Keynes got that right: Technology has made the economy massively more productive. According to Benjamin M. Friedman, an economist at Harvard, "the U.S. economy is right on track to reach Keynes's eight-fold multiple" by 2029—100 years after the last data Keynes would have had. (Keynes did not specify what he meant by a "standard of life," so Friedman uses per-capita output as a proxy.)
In a new paper (http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00191-015-0426-4), Friedman tries to figure out why that increased productivity has not translated into increased leisure time. Perhaps people just never feel materially satisfied, always wanting more money for the next new thing. "This argument is, at best, far from sufficient," he writes. If that were the case, why did the duration of the workweek decline in the first place?Another theory Friedman considers is that "in an era of ever fewer settings that provide effective opportunities for personal connections and relationships," people may place more value on the socializing that happens at work. But the evidence for this "remains uneven at best," and, once again, "its bearing on the abrupt change in trend in the U.S. workweek in the 1970s is far from established."
A third possibility proves more convincing: American inequality means that the gains of increasing productivity are not widely shared. In other words, most Americans are too poor to work less. Unlike the other two explanations Friedman considers, this one fits chronologically: Inequality declined in America during the post-war period (along with the duration of the workweek), but since the early 1970s it's risen dramatically.
Keynes's prediction rests on the idea that "standard of life" would continue rising for everyone. But Friedman says that's not what has happened: Although Keynes's eight-fold figure holds up for the economy in aggregate, it's not at all the case for the median American worker. For them, output by 2029 is likely to be around 3.5 times what it was when Keynes was writing—a bit below his four- to-eight-fold predicted range.
This can be seen in the median worker's income over this time period, complete with a shift in 1973 that fits in precisely with when the workweek stopped shrinking. According to Friedman, "Between 1947 and 1973 the average hourly wage for nonsupervisory workers in private industries other than agriculture (restated in 2013 dollars) nearly doubled, from $12.27 to $21.23—an average growth rate of 2.1 percent per annum. But by 2013 the average hourly wage was only $20.13—a 5 percent fall from the 1973 level." For most people, then, the magic of increasing productivity stopped working around 1973, and they had to keep working just as much in order to maintain their standard of living.
What Keynes foretold was a very optimistic version of what economists call technological unemployment—the idea that less labor will be necessary because machines can do so much. In Keynes's vision, the resulting unemployment would be distributed more or less evenly across society in the form of increased leisure.Friedman says that reality comports more with a darker version of technological unemployment: It's not unemployment per se, but a soft labor market in which millions of people are "desperately seeking whatever low-wage work [they] can get." This is corroborated by a recent poll by Marketplace that found that for half of hourly workers (http://www.marketplace.org/topics/elections/anxiety-index/hourly-vs-salary-portrait-american-worker), their top concern isn't that they work too much but that they work too little—not, presumably, because they like their jobs so much, but because they need the money.
This explanation leaves an important question: If the very rich—the workers who have reaped above-average gains from the increased productivity since Keynes's time—can afford to work less, why don't they (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/15/business/the-1-percent-paint-a-more-nuanced-portrait-of-the-rich.html)? I asked Friedman about this and he theorized that for many top earners, work is a labor of love. They are doing work they care about and are interested in, and doing more of it isn't such a burden—it may even be a pleasure. They derive meaning from their jobs, and it is an important part of how they think of themselves. And, of course, they are compensated for it at a level that makes it worth their while.
The prosperity Keynes predicted is here. After all, the economy as a whole has grown even more brilliantly than he expected. But for most Americans, that prosperity is nowhere to be seen—and, as a result, neither are those shorter workweeks.
Al Jazeera America Terminates All TV and Digital Operations (https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/al-jazeera-america-terminates-all-tv-and-digital-operations/)
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Executives of Al Jazeera America (AJAM) held a meeting at 2 p.m. Eastern Time to tell their employees that the company is terminating all news and digital operations in the U.S. as of April 2016, resulting in the loss of hundreds of jobs. The announcement marks a stunning and rapid collapse of what, from the start, has been a towering failure.
AJAM began when Al Jazeera purchased Current TV (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/02/al-jazeera-current-tv_n_2398294.html) in late 2012 from founder Al Gore for $500 million, and the channel launched six months later (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2013/08/2013820104744903852.html). From the start, the project was beset with massive failures, from bitter internal strife (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/14/al-jazeera-marwan-bishara-email) and employee discrimination lawsuits (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/11/al-jazeera-america-lawsuit_n_7563944.html) to minuscule ratings and distribution failures (http://www.thewrap.com/al-jazeera-america-mess-low-ratings-distribution-woes-still-dog-embattled-network/). AJAM and Gore ended up in a protracted, embittered lawsuit (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/19/al-jazeera-response-gore-lawsuit/15879927/) with one another. Ratings were so low as to be almost unquantifiable; even by 2015, the network was averaging (http://www.thewrap.com/al-jazeera-america-mess-low-ratings-distribution-woes-still-dog-embattled-network/) a tiny 30,000 viewers in prime-time and at some points had literally a zero rating (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/al-jazeera-america-had-a-rough-ratings-week-some-shows-hit-zero-in-key-demo/) in the key 25-54 demographic.
From the start, employees complained vociferously (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/14/al-jazeera-marwan-bishara-email) that network executives were paralyzed by fear, believing they had to avoid all hints of bias and opinion in order to steer clear of what these executives regarded as the lethal stench of the Al Jazeera brand for American audiences. This turned much of the network into a diluted, extra-fearful version of CNN, which itself has suffered from remarkably low ratings for years. AJAM journalists typically blame one AJAM executive in particular, Ehab Al Shihabi, its executive director of international operations. Al Shihabi, whose background is in business and not journalism, was widely regarded as the prime author of the network's identity problems and obsession with voiceless content.
A 2013 column in the Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/06/01/al_jazeera_america_has_the_odour_of_disaster_burman.html) by former Al Jazeera English chief Tony Burman warned that "the Al Jazeera America project has the odor of potential disaster." Burman cited a New York Times article (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/business/media/american-al-jazeera-channel-shifs-focus-to-us-news.html?_r=1&) that began: "While it has a foreign name, the forthcoming Al Jazeera cable channel in the United States wants to be American through and through." A NYT article (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/06/business/media/al-jazeera-network-in-turmoil-is-now-the-news.html) from May on the "turmoil" plaguing the network pronounced that "the station has been a nonfactor in news." Rather than fill a market gap for strong-voiced journalism with a focus on domestic counter-terrorism policy and the Middle East, AJAM opted for the much safer – and ultimately futile – strategy of trying to be an inoffensive, generic cable news network.
AJAM has been losing staggering sums of money from the start. That has become increasingly untenable as the network's owner and funder, the government of Qatar, is now economically struggling (http://www.wsj.com/articles/qatar-risks-budget-deficit-in-2016-due-to-low-oil-prices-imf-says-1427983369) due to low oil prices. The decision was made recently to terminate AJAM, which allows the network to terminate all of its cumbersome distribution contracts with cable companies, and re-launch its successful Al Jazeera English inside the U.S.
While AJAM has struggled with its television programming, its online reporting and digital opinion sites have been successful, finding relatively large audiences among American news consumers. Nonetheless, all of AJAM is terminating, and both the TV and digital employees are expected to lose their jobs.
'Don't Send Water': Michael Moore Laid Out the Painful Truths About Flint in This Letter (https://www.yahoo.com/news/don-t-send-water-michael-142700187.html)
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Don't send water.
That was Oscar-winning filmmaker Michael Moore's blunt declaration (http://michaelmoore.com/DontSendBottledWater/)to the world in an open letter published to his website Thursday regarding the Flint water crisis. The Bowling for Columbine director penned a blistering statement outlining the futility of bottled water as a solution, and instead offered a number of concrete solutions to stem the damage and bring comfort to the afflicted.
"100,000 bottles of water is enough for just one bottle per person," said Moore after praising the generosity of rock band Pearl Jam and the NFL's Detroit Lions, each of which donated 100,000 bottles. But for the city of 102,000 it remains woefully insufficient. "You would have to send 200 bottles a day, per person, to cover what the average American (we are Americans in Flint) needs each day. That's 102,000 citizens times 200 bottles of water — which equals 20.4 million 16oz. bottles of water per day, every day, for the next year or two until this problem is fixed."
Moore, who hails from Flint – his 1989 documentary Roger & Me addressed (http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2014/12/an_oral_history_of_roger_and_m.html) the devastation caused to the Flint community after General Motors shut down its local plants, leaving 30,000 out of work – explained that bottled water or not, the damage is already done. With Flint residents having consumed the contaminated water since April 2014, many of the effects of lead poisoning and other toxins are irreversible. (Medical professionals suspect (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/22/health/flint-water-legionnaires-disease/) a link between the water and the outbreak of Legionnaire's disease, which has already killed ten.)
"You cannot reverse the irreversible brain damage that has been inflicted upon every single child in Flint. The damage is permanent," he said. "There is no medicine you can send, no doctor or scientist who has any way to undo the harm done to thousands of babies, toddlers and children (not to mention their parents). They are ruined for life, and someone needs to tell you the truth about that."
Moore laid out five points, among them retribution for those he blames for the problem and a combination of state and federal responses. He called for the removal and potential prosecution of Republican Gov. Rick Snyder, who has come under withering criticism for his response (http://mic.com/articles/133109/this-is-the-email-that-reveals-how-badly-flint-michigan-failed-its-people) to the crisis, and insisted that while Michigan should pay for the fallout, the recovery should be managed by the federal government and FEMA. Moore also said that Flint residents who wanted to leave should be relocated and that those who wanted to stay should be provided clean water from Lake Huron by the federal government.
The problem was a long time in the making. For Flint residents, it all started when, in a cost-cutting move, Flint rerouted (http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/10/how_the_flint_water_crisis_eme.html#0) its water supply from Detroit to that of the Flint River, exposing residents to water contaminated by the city's corrosive lead pipes. In fact, the water was so toxic, a local auto plant stopped using it (http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/10/gm.html), saying it damaged their equipment.
For more than a year, residents were told they had nothing to fear (http://mic.com/articles/132732/people-of-flint-want-you-to-see-these-images-of-the-water-they-were-told-was-safe-to-drink#.ATCLeCF0C) from the brown water coming out of their taps, even as warning signs multiplied and state workers in Flint decided to eschew the tap (http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/flint-water-crisis/2016/01/28/amid-denials-state-workers-flint-got-clean-water/79470650/) for bottled in their offices. The entire fiasco could have been avoided by adding an anti-corrosive agent to the water, per federal law. It would have cost $100 a day, according to CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/11/health/toxic-tap-water-flint-michigan/). For Moore, the open letter is the latest in a long drum beat for Flint and against Snyder. Moore also visited his hometown earlier this month to agitate from the ground and call for Synder's removal.
"This is not a mistake," said Moore, according to the Detroit Free Press (http://www.freep.com/story/news/2016/01/16/michael-moore-flint-says-crisis-not-mistake/78901294/). "Ten people have been killed here because of a political decision. They did this. They knew." Moore has started a petition calling on Snyder to be prosecuted (http://michaelmoore.com/ArrestGovSnyder/)which to date has received nearly half-a-million signatures.
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Martin Shkreli could not stop laughing during his testimony to Congress (http://www.businessinsider.com/live-martin-shkreli-the-ceo-of-valeant-and-others-face-congress-2016-2)
Infamous former Turing CEO Martin Shkreli and Howard Schiller, the interim chief executive of the pharmaceutical company Valeant, just faced Congress.
Legislators on Thursday wanted them to answer for dramatic drug-price increases that affect the lives of Americans.
Shkreli caught national attention when his company purchased a lifesaving drug called Daraprim and then raised the price by over 5,000%.
Wall Street was closely watching Schiller; Valeant's stock was a darling until accusations of malfeasance from a short seller and government scrutiny over pricing chopped off a quarter of its stock price last year.
Not a few bad apples
At the hearing, Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Maryland) opened by saying, "It's not funny — people are dying" because drug companies "jacked up" prices.
"These tactics are not limited to a few 'bad apples,'" he said. "They are prominent throughout the entire industry. Lannett, Pfizer, Horizon, Teva, Amphastar, Allergan, Endo — all of these companies have taken significant price increases on their drugs."
He also submitted letters from Human Rights Campaign, Consumer Union, the American Federation of Teachers, and more, expressing their concern about drug-pricing practices. Cummings also discussed regulation against what he called price gouging.
After Cummings spoke, Schiller took the hot seat. Schiller's prepared remarks are here (http://www.businessinsider.com/valeant-ceo-congressional-testimony-2016-2).
Among his points were:
- Valeant paid an outside consultant to determine prices.
- Valeant passes costs onto hospitals, not patients, and it actually lowers costs for patients through its assistance programs.
- The FDA should speed up the approval process for generic drugs.
And then there's this interesting argument (emphasis ours):
"When these drugs are priced to reflect more closely their true clinical value, the more accurate price signals incentivize generic competition and innovation.
Higher prices draw generic competitors into the market, which in turn tends to put significant downward pressure on prices."
Shkreli
Shkreli, as expected, invoked the Fifth Amendment and seemed to suppress laughter during his testimony. Turing's chief commercial officer also testified.
Shkreli was asked whether he had done anything wrong and was questioned about comments he had previously made.
Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-South Carolina) tried to convince Shkreli that some answers would not subject him to incrimination and that the two could talk about something else. That included his Wu-Tang Clan album (http://www.businessinsider.com/martin-shkreli-explains-why-he-bought-the-wu-tang-clan-album-2016-2).
"Is that the name of the group?" Gowdy asked.
"I intend to follow the advice of my counsel and not yours," Shkreli responded.
Shkreli continued to look away and smile. At points it looked as if he were about to burst out laughing.
"You can look away if you like, but you should see the faces of the people you affect," Cummings said. "You are known as one of the bad boys of pharma."
He added that there were "so many people that could use your help."
Cummings ended by telling Shkreli "God bless you" and requesting that Shkreli be escorted out.
Later, outside Congress, Shkreli's lawyer said his client had been unfairly singled out. Eventually, he said, people would come to realize that Shkreli was "not a villain, but a hero."
there's something wrong with this guy
pic.twitter.com/mdfaBG8E1q (https://t.co/mdfaBG8E1q)
— Sam Ro (@bySamRo) February 4, 2016 (https://twitter.com/mims/statuses/695258334535008256)
Shkreli's people
While Shkreli got off fairly easy, Turing's CCO, Nancy Retzlaff, was grilled.
Retzlaff tried to argue that price had nothing to do with people's inability to access Daraprim.
"We paid the majority of the copay," she said.
No one was having it.
"When anyone acts like Turing is acting, Congress ... can suspend the exclusivity period for you to produce that drug," Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-Massachusetts) said. He called it a "poison pill."
"You're going to cause us to put heavy regulations on good companies ... Look at the impact you're having!"
Retzlaff also acknowledged that there was really nowhere a patient could see the real price of a drug, leading Boyle to say, "What we have here is a broken market."
Retzlaff was also asked whether her company ever thought about the public interest while pricing its product. She said she was comfortable with the pricing because of Turing's patient-assistance programs. She also said there was a lot of misinformation about pricing and that the problem was with public relations.
"Despite your best efforts it became a major news story," Cummings said later. Then he brought up that, in response to the public's reaction, a consultant advised Turing to lower the price and to tie profits of Daraprim to new research and development.
"Which is exactly what you're doing today," he said. "You followed most of the consultant's advice, except for one thing. You never lowered the price of Daraprim!"
Communications surrounding that, which Cummings read aloud to the session, made it clear that Turing knew patients were having problems paying for the drug but that it was unwilling to give on price.
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) later played a video in which Shkreli said Turing took all of its "extra profit" and put it into R&D.
"That's not true, is it?" Chaffetz said. "Are you really testifying that you're losing money, because I've seen your spreadsheets and you're making money hand over fist."
Retzlaff denied it, and Chaffetz said: "Oh no? I'll release these documents to the public, and you can fight it out there."
He also brought up an investor who suggested waiting until the PR storm died down to increase prices. He also brought up that Turing was handing out bonuses. Retzlaff denied both statements, and Chaffetz countered by reading documents that Congress had subpoenaed from the company.
Then Chaffetz got real:
"Did you spend money on a yacht night?"
Retzlaff said yes.
Did you spend money on a cigar roller for that yacht night?
Retzlaff said yes.
"So don't tell me you're not making money. So what's a woman who's dying of AIDS supposed to do — is she supposed to tweet Martin Shkreli?"Schiller
One congressman asked Schiller of Valeant whether hospitals really had a choice in giving patients Isuprel and Nitropress, two cardiac drugs whose prices Valeant raised by 525% and 212% respectively.
Schiller basically affirmed that hospitals may not have a choice to give a patient a drug, but he said Valeant had checked with hospitals on how they use the drug.
In the same breath, he confirmed that hospitals were taking the cost of the drug — but one congressman argued that that cost goes back to the patient in the form of a higher bill for the patient's trip to the hospital.
"Given the choice between higher prices and risking the health of their patients ... you're forcing hospitals to choose ... almost holding the patients as hostages," Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Virginia) said.
He argued that this diverted funding from research and improving the care at hospitals. "The reality is hospitals are suffering in this country," he said.
He then asked Schiller whether it was true that Valeant's motto was, "Do not trust science — trust management."
Schiller said that he thought the company was changing and that he wasn't sure when CEO Michael Pearson, who has been on medical leave since December, said that. He then tried to talk about the value Valeant was driving to shareholders.
Connolly broke in, "I understand that your main concern in shareholders ... but it's unconscionable."
Cummings was equally hard on Schiller: "Mr. Schiller one question for you. You just said 'in some cases we were too aggressive in increasing prices.' Are you going to reduce prices?"
Schiller tried to say he looked across the portfolio and reduced some brands by 10% and that they would continue to make changes.
Cummings promised that he would be watching.
DA LI SAMO MENI 'SKAT' BUDI PRLJAVIJE ASOCIJACIJE NEGO 'SKOT'?! :-P :oops: :shock: bljakpink xseaeek qpuke
SKOT NEĆE DA BUDE SKOT:
Američki ambasador menja pravopis srpskog jezika
OBJAVLJENO: 12/02/2016
Novi američki ambasador u Srbiji Kajl R. Skot odlučio je da promeni pravopis srpskog jezika. Skot ne želi da bude Skot, već "Skat".
Redackije gotovo svih zvaničnih medija donele su nezvaničnu odluku da promene pravopis srpskog jezika zbog prezimena novog američkog ambasadora Kajla R. Skota.
Mediji više ne pišu "izjavio je ambasador Skot", što je u skladu sa pravopisom srpskog jezika, već "izjavio je ambasador Skat". Čak je i Radio-televizija Srbije, navodni čuvar srpskog jezika na televiziji, objavila sledeći naslov: "Ambasador Skat za RTS".
Međutim, nisu mediji u potpunosti krivi. Nova pravopisna pravila ne dolaze iz redakcija, već direktno iz ambasade SAD u Srbiji.
Neki pametni ljudi iz američke ambasade procenili su da bi marketinški bilo bolje da se Skotovo prezime izgovara i piše sa "a". Skot nam se prvi put predstavio kao Skat putem video poruke koja je objavljena prvog dana kada je sleteo u Beograd.
Budemo li usvojili ovaj novogovor iz američke ambasade kao normu samo da javnost ne bi čitala naslove poput: "Skot primio Vučića" i "Skot izazvao diplomatski skandal", onda bi trebalo Skotland jard da postane Skatland jard, a Džon Keri da izgovaramo kao Džan Keri.
- See more at: http://www.teleprompter.rs/skot-nece-da-bude-skot-americki-ambasador-menja-pravopis-srpskog-jezika.html (http://www.teleprompter.rs/skot-nece-da-bude-skot-americki-ambasador-menja-pravopis-srpskog-jezika.html)
Lukava sprega vlasti i velikog biznisa radi već decenijama na tome da građane & potrošače obeshrabri da transakcije plaćaju gotovim novcem jer to te transakcije čini težim za praćenje, građane sklonijim da se ponašaju oportunistički ali i da izbegnu da velike firme imaju detaljan profil njihovih navika itd. U poslednjih nekoliko dana ova inicijativa izdignuta je na viši nivo, u Evropi se priča o ukidanju novčanice od petsto Evra a u Americi da bi trebalo ukinuti novčanicu od sto dolara:
Getting Rid of Big Currency Notes Could Help Fight Crime (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/22/opinion/getting-rid-of-big-currency-notes-could-help-fight-crime.html)
QuoteFew Europeans use the 500-euro note, and most Americans rarely encounter the $100 bill. Yet hundreds of millions of these notes are in circulation around the world, where they are often used by drug cartels, corrupt politicians, terrorists and tax cheats to evade law enforcement. That's why officials in Europe and elsewhere are proposing to end the printing of high-denomination bills.
Getting rid of big bills will make it harder for criminals to do business and make it easier for law enforcement to detect illicit activity. Consider this: a stack of 500-euro notes worth $1 million weighs just five pounds and can be carried in a small bag, whereas a pile of $20 bills worth the same amount would weigh 110 pounds and would be much more difficult to move around, according to a recent paper (http://www.hks.harvard.edu/centers/mrcbg/publications/awp/awp52) from Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government.
The president of the European Central Bank, Mario Draghi, recently said (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/16/business/international/european-central-bank-weighs-eliminating-500-euro-bill.html?_r=0) the bank is considering getting rid of the 500-euro note ($557), though the central bank plans to keep the 200-euro and 100-euro bills. Most Europeans never use the 500-euro note, and some retail stores in the eurozone do not even accept that bill.
Europol, the European Union's law enforcement agency, said in a report last year (https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/why-cash-still-king-strategic-report-use-cash-criminal-groups-facilitator-money-laundering) that criminals have been known to trade it for more than 500 euros, a sign of its value to them. Other big bills, like the 1,000 Swiss franc note, which is worth about $1,010, and the 1,000 Singapore dollar bill, the equivalent of $712, are also favored by criminal enterprises and tax evaders. Lawrence Summers, the former Treasury secretary and former adviser to President Obama, has argued (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/16/its-time-to-kill-the-100-bill/) that the United States should get rid of the $100 bill; about 65 percent of these bills are held outside the country, according to a study published by the Federal Reserve (http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/ifdp/2012/1058/ifdp1058.pdf). But that change could be disruptive because the $100 bill is used widely overseas for legitimate purposes, too. And as long as the E.C.B. continues to print 200-euro and 100-euro notes, criminals could switch to those bills. That's why such efforts should be coordinated internationally.
Critics who oppose such changes say the big bills make it easier for people to keep their savings in cash, especially in countries with negative interest rates (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/13/upshot/negative-interest-rates-are-spreading-across-the-world-heres-what-you-need-to-know.html). Some people also prefer not to conduct transactions electronically because they fear security breaches. But these are relatively minor burdens compared with the potential benefits of reducing criminal activity and tax evasion.
There is no need for large-denomination currency. Britain's top bill (http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/pages/current/default.aspx) is the 50-pound note ($72), which has been perfectly sufficient. The United States stopped distributing (https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Currency/Pages/denominations.aspx) $500, $1,000, $5,000 and $10,000 bills in 1969. There are now so many ways to pay for things, and eliminating big bills should create few problems.
End of an era:
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/130594/rip-print-edition-soldier-fortune-magazine-america-deserved
Već nekoliko godina jedna od vrućih tema u SAD je i pitanje H-1B viza i njihove zlo/upotrebe od strane korporativnog sektora. U najuprošćenijim terminima ovde se radi o aktuelizaciji stare paranoje da će doći ti neki imigranti i oteti poštenim Amerikancima radna mesta, ali ovog puta u globalizovanom svetu pa ljudi pogođeni tom vrstom nesreće nisu baštovani i automehaničari nego programeri i sistem administratori.
Specifičnost H-1B vize je upravo u tome što se ona izdaje imigrantu (privremeno, dakako) za potrebe rada u specijalizovanoj oblasti, onoj koja, eksplicitno se kaže, podrazumeva teorijsku i praktičnu primenu visoko specijalizovanog znanja i definiše se u najmanju ruku BA diplomom ili njenim ekvivalentom.
Sad, poslednjih nekoliko godina korporacije su, prirodno, shvatile da u državi gde je visoko obrazovanje skupo - praktično nema studiranja o trošku, jelte, države - i sve više od njih samih zahteva ulaganje (treba da se ispruže za stipendije, internšip pozicije itd.), da u takvoj, dakle, državi jednoj firmi na kraju bude isplativije da ustvrdi kako na tržištu rada nema adekvatnog kadra, plati H-1B vizu i dovede Indusa/ Kineza/ Egipćanina itd. da radi posao koji je do juče radio rođeni Amerikanac. Ovi ljudi iz zemalja gde su školovani o trošku društva su presrećni da rade u, jelte, Americi (iako im H-1B viza NE garantuje američki pasoš) i mada se doprinosi za njih plaćaju jednako kao za američke građane i zakon tvrdi da moraju dobiti onaj nivo plate koji je uobičajen u toj radnoj oblasti, u praksi se ispostavlja da dolazi do primetnog spuštanja prosečnog nivoa plate za date poslove, kao i da su radnici ovog tipa, nažalost, spremni na mnoge kompromise na svoju štetu jer H-1B viza MOŽE biti korak do zelene karte. Uzbudljivo! Evo sada da se čuje šta kaže bivši IT radnik u Dizniju:
Former Disney IT worker to Congress: How can you allow this? (http://www.computerworld.com/article/3038292/it-careers/former-disney-it-worker-to-congress-how-can-you-allow-this.html)
QuoteAt a congressional hearing today on the H-1B visa's impact on high-skilled workers, the first person to testify was Leo Perrero, a former Disney IT worker. He was overcome with emotion for parts of it, pausing to gather himself as he told the story of how he was replaced by a foreign visa holder.
It was a hearing with an emotional punch. Perrero testified after Immigration Subcommittee Chairman Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) displayed a giant photo of small American flags, which were flown indoors by IT workers at Northeast Utilities (now Eversource Energy).
Eversource Energy IT workers "were forced to train their foreign replacements -- and this was done, apparently," within the current law, said Sessions. The photo, which was first published in Computerworld (http://www.computerworld.com/article/3027640/it-outsourcing/laid-off-it-workers-muzzled-as-h-1b-debate-heats-up.html%20), was sent to the committee by a former IT worker at Eversource. The employee was not identified because of legal restrictions in the person's severance agreement.
The only way the employees "could make a statement was by placing small American flags outside of cubicles," said Sessions.
As the IT workers were replaced, Sessions reported, the employee said " 'the flags disappeared just as we did.' "
For his part, Perrero wanted lawmakers to understand how utterly shocked he was. He detailed his good reviews while at Disney. He felt secure in his accomplishments. An internal meeting was called and Perrero gathered with co-workers, expecting good news of some sort. Instead, they were notified that had 90 days remaining at Disney and would be laid off on Jan. 30, 2015. But before that happened, they would be training their foreign replacements.
Perrero wondered how he would tell his family that "I would soon be living on unemployment."
Perrero paused. The room was still as the audience waited for him to continue.
"Later that same day I remember very clearly going to the local church pumpkin sale and having to tell the kids that we could not buy any because my job was going over to a foreign worker," he said.
"How could it be that everybody who hears about Disney and the like ... are completely shocked," said Perrero. "Yet lawmakers continue to evade the topic and take no action."
One person with a different experience with foreign workers was Mark O'Neill, the CTO of Jackthreads, an online retailer. He argued that there is a need for more skilled workers.
Competition is so fierce for developers "that my developers' starting salaries have risen by 50% in the last eight years," said O'Neill, and "senior positions command compensation that meets or exceeds even that of United States Senators." (That compensation is now at $174,000/year.)
Sessions said he sees "no reason to end this [H-1B] program," but he wants a system that favors the most highly qualified.
Most of the comments spoke to frustration around the issue. John Miano, a programmer who became an attorney and was representing the Washington Alliance of Technology Workers, illustrated that frustration in a quip. "The only way this is going to get fixed is by executive order from President Trump," he said.
At the hearing, Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), called Eversource Energy's outsourcing "extraordinarily troubling"; he has asked for a federal investigation.
Sessions is a leading advocate for reform of the H-1B visa. He has influenced the platform of Donald Trump, the billionaire developer who is leading the Republicans for the presidential nomination, and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), another presidential candidate, who has reversed his position on the H-1B visa. Sessions has co-sponsored a reform bill with Cruz.
Cruz, a one-time advocate for expanding the visa cap, now favors raising the minimum wage to $110,000 (http://www.computerworld.com/article/3014365/it-careers/sen-ted-cruz-wants-minimum-h-1b-wage-of-110-000.html). Trump is seeking to raise the prevailing wage (http://www.computerworld.com/article/2973597/it-outsourcing/why-trump-believes-his-h-1b-plan-is-serious.html).
The hearing was an opportunity to bring new attention to the issue in an election year.
Academic policy experts spoke on each side of the debate. These were mostly familiar arguments covering heavily researched areas.
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), made it clear at the hearing that he was holding out for a comprehensive immigration reform bill, similar to the 2013 bill (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/immigration-bill-2013-senate-passes-093530) that was approved by the Senate but not the House.
"It's hard to believe this bill was turned down," said Schumer.
kad je mogo obama što ne bi i ovaj? :-x xuzi
Tramp nominovan za Nobelovu nagradu za mir
Odbor za dodelu Nobelove nagrade za mir ove godine je primio rekordnih 376 nominacija za tu prestižnu nagradu.
IZVOR: INDEX.HR
SREDA, 2.03.2016.
"Lepo je videti što je ih toliko mnogo iskoristilo svoje pravo na nominaciju", rekao je predsednik norveškog odbora Olav Njolstad.
Ove godine nominovano je 228 pojedinaca i 148 organizacija. Među nominovanima su Edvard Snouden, stanovnici grčkog ostrva Lezbos i italijanske Lampeduse koji pomažu migrantima, kongoanski lekar Denis Mukvege koji leči žrtve silovanja u svojoj ratom opustošenoj zemlji, papa Franja, nemačka kancelarka Angela Merkel i američki milijarder Donald Tramp, prenosi Hina.
Pravo da preklažu kandidate za Nobelovu nagradu imaju predstavnici vlade i parlamenta, nekadašnji dobitnici nagrade, članovi Međunarodnog suda pravde, svetske akademske zajednice, kao i aktuelni i nekadašnji članovi odbora za dodelu.
ако је обарак добио ту 'престижну' награду, можеш ли онда замислити по каквом критеријуму се предлажу номинације...
Američka iskrivljena percepcija ljudskih prioriteta će nas zabavljati sve do momenta kad nas zbog nje ne ubije neki krstareći projektil, naravno. U ovom slučaju niko nije umro, ali zaista treba malo razmisliti nakon što se čovek nasmeje.
Naime... zamislite da ste bili u nekom hotelu i, jebiga, desi se, vi u kupatilu, stanete pod tuš, pustite toplu vodu i u tom trenutku se sruši zid i armatura vas tako nezgodno izbuši da hirurzi nemaju drugog izbora sem da vam, spasavajući vam život, amputiraju ruku. Nedobog, pupupu, ali eto, desi se, recimo, i vi onda tužite hotel. I onda se na sudu izborite za neku kompenzaciju. Recimo da biste bili razumno zadovoljni sa milion dolara. Recimo da biste sa pet miliona smatrali da ste im očitali lekciju. Recimo da biste sa deset miliona dolara odštete uhvatili sebe kako mislite da tu ruku na kraju krajeva niste baš
toliko koristili i da ovo u stvari nije ispalo tako loše.
E, sad zamislite sve to isto ali umesto srušenog zida imate paparaca a umesto amputiranog ekstremiteta... er... objavljen snimak toga kako se tuširate negde na internetu. Tužite hotel. Sud vam dodeli PEDESETPET miliona dolara odštete jer je vaš advokat ubedio porotu da ste u permanentnoj traumi već godinama, da vas napada depresija jer eto, povremeno vam na tviteru neko pomene da vas je video golu. A to je ipak, dozvolićete strašno. Tu d tjun ov 55 milion dolarz, moliću.
Jebote. Onli in Amerika.
TV Star Gets £38m After Stalker Films Her Nude (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tv-star-gets-38m-stalker-films-her-nude-001521509.html)
Quote
A TV sports presenter who was secretly recorded by a stalker while nude in a hotel room has been awarded $55m (£38m) by a jury.
Erin Andrews, a Fox Sports reporter who also co-hosts Dancing With The Stars, had told the trial that she was left humiliated and depressed when the video was uploaded online, where it continues to be viewed by millions of people.
She had filed a lawsuit for $75m (£52m) against the man who filmed her, Michael David Barrett, as well as the two companies which owned the hotel where the harassment took place in 2008.
After deliberating for a full day, a jury decided Barrett was responsible for 51% of the blame and the compensation, while the hotel firms should share the rest.
Barrett has already served two-and-a-half years in prison after he confessed to altering peepholes and deceiving the hotel's staff to learn Andrews' room number and request the room next door.
He said he uploaded the footage online after TMZ refused to purchase it.
Lawyers for the hotels had insisted that Barrett was entirely to blame for what happened to Andrews as he was a determined criminal, and also suggested that the progress in her career since the incident was proof that her distress was not severe or permanent.
But during a tearful testimony in Tennessee, Andrews said she is taunted about the video "every day of my life".
She added: "Either I get a tweet or somebody makes a comment in the paper or somebody sends me a still video to my Twitter or someone screams it at me in the stands and I'm right back to this.
"I feel so embarrassed and I am so ashamed."
Her parents had also testified - reliving the terror their family had felt after the video emerged because they didn't know who had taken it, where it was shot and whether their daughter was still being watched.
Following the verdict, several jurors hugged Andrews - and one even asked for an autograph.
In a statement, the TV star thanked the jury, her family and her legal team, adding: "I've been honoured by all the support from victims around the world. Their outreach has helped me be able to stand up and hold accountable those whose job it is to protect everyone's safety, security and privacy."
Ovim, naravno, ne želim da se podsmevam osobama čija je privatnost grubo narušena i izvrnuta ruglu za zabavu dokonih internet smarača, samo pokušavam da shvatim koji je misaoni proces doveo do ovolikog iznosa odštete...
Tamo vlada puritanska kultura. Od golotinje se prave R-rated filmovi, a od krvoliptanja PG-13.
Ovo baš i ne pripada ovde, ali pošto valjda nemamo drugu temu o Americi:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n06/jackson-lears/capitalisms-capital (http://www.lrb.co.uk/v38/n06/jackson-lears/capitalisms-capital)
"Robert Moses was a modernist pharaoh. Over the forty years from the early 1930s to the late 1960s, he became a virtual dictator of public works in all five boroughs of New York and much of its suburban surroundings. Almost singlehandedly, through chicanery, fraud and bullying, he created the modern infrastructure of the New York City area: expressways, tunnels and bridges, but also parks, beaches, swimming pools and high-rise housing projects. He envisioned an American version of Le Corbusier's ideal city, cleansed of disorder and unpredictability, focused on cars rather than pedestrians, committed to an idea of urban public space as empty plazas dominated by glass towers. He aspired to be a master builder, and his achievements ranged from the elegant – the Art Deco bathhouses at Jones Beach on Long Island – to the catastrophic: the Cross-Bronx Expressway, which destroyed thriving neighbourhoods and displaced thousands of people."
Robert Mozes je inspiracija najomiljeniji mi tekst (http://innovate.ucsb.edu/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Winner-Do-Artifacts-Have-Politics-1980.pdf). :lol:
Kad smo već kod Amerike & propasti, poznato je da je kod njih nasilje izvršeno vatrenim oružjem relativno ozbiljan problem i da su debate oko toga da li lično naoružanje nekako treba staviti pod kontrolu žučne i duge. S jedne strane su gun control zagovarači koji kažu da je naprosto bezumno da u gomili saveznih država u SAD možeš da kupiš pušku ili pištolj bez ikakve provere, čak i bez davanja identiteta, a sa druge NRA aktivisti koji se pozivaju na drugi amandman i vele da je lično naoružanje neophodno ne samo za samoodbranu od
ustaša provalnika i silovatelja već i od vlasti koje bi da se odrode od građana, pa svaki pokušaj da se makar registruju vlasnici ličnog naoružanja doživljavaju kao potez u smeru uspostavljanja fašističke diktature. Studija objavljena pre neki dan (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2901026-0/abstract)ukazuje da bi tri relativno jednostavna zakonska mehanizma ipak hipotetički smanjila broj smrti koje su posledica vatrenog oružja čitavih 90 procenata.
Study finds that 3 laws could reduce firearm deaths by 90%. (http://news.meta.com/2016/03/10/firearms/)
QuoteEven though over 90 people are killed by guns in the United States every day, gun-control legislation remains a hotly contested and divisive topic. A new nationwide study, however, has added to the debate by presenting evidence that suggests gun deaths in the US could be reduced by over 90% with the implementation of federal laws mandating firearm identification through microstamping or ballistic fingerprinting, and universal background checks for firearm and ammunition purchases.The study (http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2901026-0/abstract), published in The Lancet, used a cross-sectional, state-level dataset relating to a host of topics associated with firearm mortality including gun ownership and even unemployment from across the US to examine the relationship between recorded gun deaths and gun-control legislation. The study found that, despite the wide range of legislation employed at the state level, very few of the existing laws were actually effective. In fact, some laws, such as those that restrict gun access to children through locks and age restrictions, were simply ineffective while others, such as the stand-your-ground law that allows individuals to use deadly force in self-defence, actually increase gun-related deaths significantly. In the end, the study found that the most effective way to lower the rate of firearm deaths in the US was to focus on implementing the best legislation, which were the laws most strongly associated with reduced gun deaths, namely universal background checks for firearm and ammunition purchase as well as identification requirements for guns.
According to the study's model, a federal law expanding background checks for all gun purchases could reduce the national gun death rate by 57%, lowering it from 10.35 to 4.46 per 100,000 people while background checks for all ammunition purchases could lower the rate by 81% to 1.99 per 100,000 and firearm identification could reduce it by 83% to 1.81 per 100,000. If the federal government implemented all three laws, the scholars predict that the overall national rate of firearm deaths would drop by over 90% to 0.16 per 100,000.
Although the potential impact of these laws appears staggering, the authors advise caution because the expected fall in the mortality rate could take many years to become apparent even if all three laws were put in place immediately. Furthermore, in a related commentary (http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736%2816%2900206-3) renowned Prof. David Hemenway is somewhat less enthusiastic about the results, warning of statistical problems in the findings. Regardless, this study is the step in the right direction in bringing more scientific evidence into the debate about gun-control legislation in the US.
A gde su "from my cold, dead hands" frikovi tu su i extremne "pro-life" ideje
Indiana Is Trying To Pass An Abortion Bill That's So Extreme Even Republicans Don't Like It (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2016/03/11/3759097/indiana-abortion-republicans/)
QuoteIndiana lawmakers are currently advancing a particularly harsh anti-abortion bill that's failing to win support even among some Republicans in the state.
Under HB 1337, which both chambers of the legislature passed this week, women would be prohibited from seeking an abortion if they discover their fetus has genetic abnormalities. Abortion providers would be responsible for burying or cremating "fetal remains." And donating fetal tissue — an area of scientific research that's come under fire thanks to a smear campaign against Planned Parenthood — would be classified as a felony crime.
According to a Planned Parenthood statement, the legislation is "particularly cruel in that it's designed to shame and demean a woman who is facing tragic circumstances with a lethal fetal anomaly." Essentially, a grieving pregnant woman grappling with the news that her unborn child won't survive outside the womb would be required to receive information dissuading her from ending the doomed pregnancy.
If HB 1337 becomes law, Indiana will become just the second state in the nation to ban abortions based on fetal abnormality — part of a larger strategy to discern why women may be choosing to end a pregnancy. North Dakota also has this restriction on the books.
Reproductive rights proponents point out that women need to be able to make difficult pregnancy decisions about whether they can adequately care for a child with severe disabilities. They say that restrictions in this area are unnecessary, unenforceable, and seek to drive an offensive wedge between the abortion rights community and the disability rights community.
Some Republicans in Indiana appear to agree.
"The bill does nothing to save innocent lives. There's no education, there's no funding. It's just penalties," Rep. Sharon Negele, a Republican who has sponsored anti-abortion legislation in the past, said this week at a hearing regarding HB 1337.
Another Republican lawmaker, Rep. Sean Eberhart, said he decided to vote against the bill after discussing it with his wife. He said she didn't agree with the legislation even though she's "as pro-life as they come."
"Today is a perfect example a bunch of middle-aged guys sitting in this room making decisions about what we think is best for women," Eberhart said. "We need to quit pretending we know what's best for women and their health care needs."
Several Republicans in the legislature also took issue with the way HB 1337 advanced. According to the Associated Press, Republican leaders in the House used a procedural measure to rush a vote on an updated version of the bill without giving lawmakers additional time to make changes.
"I feel this is government overreaching," GOP Rep. Cindy Kirchhofer said in protest. "It's bills like these that make people like me really hate the system," GOP Rep. Wendy McNamara agreed.
As the national abortion landscape becomes increasingly extreme, other conservative state lawmakers have also spoken out against efforts to restrict women's rights. Oklahoma Rep. Doug Cox (R), for example, has made national headlines for repeatedly criticizing his party's relentless focus in this area. "This bill takes the ability to control their destiny away from women," Cox said in response to a 2014 bill seeking to restrict emergency contraception. "But that's what we do in the Republican Party these days."
HB 1337 now awaits the governor's approval. A spokesperson for Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R) stopped short of promising he will sign the bill into law, but noted that Pence is "a strong supporter of the right to life" who will "give this legislation thoughtful consideration once it reaches his desk."
Ovo je prelepo <3
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNFf7nMIGnE#)
Amerika u epizodi "Won't somebody think of the children", repriza po ko zna koji put. Pedofili su svuda oko nas, čak su toliko drski da svojim simbolima obeležavaju
dečije igračke!!!!! OMG, šta ako se neko dete onda zarazi pedofilijom i... ne umem da zamislim šta onda može da se desi!!!!!!! Da priča bude uzbudljivija: majka je kupila detetu kamionče da se igra ali je starija ćerka - dobro obrazovana, aj šit ju not, to piše u tekstu, gledanjem Law & Order: Special Victims Unit - primetila na kamiončetu malo srce u velikom srcu i pošto deca ne mogu da zapamte gde je na geografskoj karti Skandinavija i koji je kurac bio taj car Konstantin po kome se sad zove svaki drugi STR u Nišu, ali ne zaboravljaju stvari koje vide u omiljenim serijama, setila se da je u seriji objašnjeno da je to tajni znak pedofila. Jer, jelte, malo srce u velikom srcu, it mejks prfikt sens. Onda je majka uzbunila javnost,a firma je povukla sve svoje proizvode i izdala pres riliz kako su svi u kompaniji šokirani i da oni nisu imali pojma i sve to. Za dlaku, jebotebog, zamislite da je još neko dete dobilo na poklon sličnu igračku!!!!!!!
Recall Issued After Mom Discovers Pedophile Symbol on Popular Children's Toy (http://news.yahoo.com/recall-issued-mom-discovers-pedophile-144446471.html)
QuoteA vigilant Florida mom discovered a symbol on her child's toy truck that led to a massive recall.
Nicole O'Kelly bought the pink truck (http://wfla.com/2016/03/09/code-for-pedophiles-ends-up-on-childrens-toys-sold-at-monster-jam/) for her 2-year-old daughter at a Monster Jam (https://www.monsterjam.com/) event in the Tampa area. At first, she didn't think much of the heart symbol on the back of the toy. But her older daughter, a Law & Order: Special Victims Unit fan (and seriously smart cookie), noticed the symbol from the TV show and told her mother immediately.
According to Slate (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/hot_document/features/2007/the_pedophiles_secret_code/_2.html), the symbol, a heart surrounded by a larger heart, is a secret code for pedophiles. It signals that a female child is ready to be trafficked for sex.
"I'm absolutely sick. I bought this for my 2-year-old little girl. This toy was made for little girls. I wanted answers," O'Kelly said.
Even more alarming is that it happened at an event where so many males were in attendance.
"This is pink," O'Kelly said. "This is for little girls, especially at a predominately male event."
The company that makes the toy, Feld Inc (https://www.feldentertainment.com/), admits they were unaware of the symbol's meaning and that the horrific mistake was unintentional. They have since issued a recall and pulled it from shelves.
A spokesperson for the company has released a statement:"We're shocked. We had no idea. We reacted immediately. We wanted to do the right thing as quickly as possible. Clearly we're in the business with providing high quality family entertainment. This was really obscure. Until yesterday, I had no idea there was an underlying meaning of these symbols and the deplorable behavior. We just don't know if a crime was committed here. We have not been contacted by LEOs. We just want to make sure it doesn't happen again," said Stephen Payne, with Feld Inc.
Anyone who purchased a toy with the symbol at the Monster Jam event in Florida on January 16th or February 6th should contact the police immediately.
As scary as this is, maybe it will shed some light on the horrific realities of child trafficking (http://www.redbookmag.com/life/charity/tips/a13547/stop-child-labor/) and help to keep kids safer.
For more information on pedophile symbols, you can read the FBI report (https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI-pedophile-symbols.pdf) that identifies the many different types.
Čisto eksperimenta radi, ako nađem negde fotografiju dvogodišnjeg deteta kako se brčka u plićaku bez kupaćih gaćica i fotošopujem na nju američki zastavu, oće Obama nešto duradi i da se promene ti nacionalni simboli pošto su to sada pedofilska obeležja?
Ljudi su nervozni, to je razumljivo, teror buja, sve je jasno. Ali... prvo pustiš arapsku porodicu - muž, žena i tri sitna deteta - da uđu u avion, a onda ih iz aviona izbaciš. Pa to ne može a da ne izgleda mnogo glupo. Bez obzira što kasnije objasniš da je bio problem u sedištu :lol:
Arab-American Family Outraged After Getting Kicked Off Flight (https://www.yahoo.com/news/arab-american-family-outraged-getting-200500496.html)
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A Muslim family from Chicago was outraged recently after they say they were forced off a United Airlines flight for "safety reasons."
Eaman-Amy Saad Shebley took her anger to social media, where she reportedly posted video of a flight attendant asking her, her husband and three kids to deplane for no apparent reason.
The incident occurred after Shebley asked a flight attendant about five-point harnesses for the kids, WDIV reports (http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/arab-american-family-kicked-off-flight-for-safety-of-flight-issue).
The flight attendant said she had no idea what the mother was talking about and the family was soon lead off the plane.
"Shame on you United Airlines for profiling my family for no reason than how we look," wrote Shebley, who wears a hijab. "My three kids are too young to have experienced this."
The video can no longer be viewed on Facebook.
After getting off the plane, the family contacted customer service, who apologied and rebooked them on a new flight to Washington, DC. They also filed a complaint.
The family would later contact the Council on American-Islamic Relations, whose Executive Director of the Council on American Islamic Relations of Michigan, Dawud Walid, told WDIV:
"Unfortunately there's a growing problem on airlines of Muslims being removed from flights when they cause no reasonable security concerns."
Meanwhile, United still appears to maintain there was a reason for concern. In a statement, the airliner wrote:
'We rebooked them on a later flight because of concerns about their child's safety seat, which did not comply with federal safety regulations.
"Both United and SkyWest hold our employees to the highest staneards of professionalism and have zero tolerance for discrimination."
Gde se ima tu se i presipa: TSA su platili 1,4 milijuna dolara za aplikaciju koja je u suštini najobičniji RNG. :cry: :cry: :cry:
TSA paid $1.4 million for Randomizer app that chooses left or right (http://www.geek.com/apps/tsa-paid-1-4-million-for-randomizer-app-that-chooses-left-or-right-1651337/)
QuoteWhen someone starts learning how to code, one of the first things they create is a program that generates and outputs random numbers. In most cases it's an incredibly simple program to make because your programming language of choice has a randomizing function available to use.
Keeping the above in mind, I now turn your attention to the Transport Security Administration and the Randomizer app they use every day. If you've traveled through US airports in recent years then you're well aware of the TSA Pre-Check lanes. It is a faster way to get through airport security for low-risk travelers, and allows you to keep your shoes and belt on.
TSA Pre-Check is faster, but it also includes random searches and that's where the Randomizer app comes in. The app randomly chooses whether travelers go left or right in the Pre-Check lane. That way, nobody can predict which lane each person is assigned to and therefore can't figure out how to avoid the random checks.
Here's the app in action:
http://youtu.be/P_KmFJ2gGzw (http://youtu.be/P_KmFJ2gGzw)
So how much did the TSA pay to have the Randomizer iPad app developed? At least $336,413.59. That's $336,413.59 for an app that does nothing more than randomly select left or right a few hundred times an hour.
We know this thanks to developer Kevin Burke (https://kev.inburke.com/kevin/tsa-randomizer-app-cost-336000/), who submitted a Freedom of Information Act request asking for details about the app. And if you think paying over $336,000 for an app like this is ridiculous, well, that's just the tip of the iceberg.
The contract for the TSA Randomizer app was won by IBM. The total paid for the project is actually $1.4 million, but the cost is not broken down in the documents Burke received in response to his request. It could be IBM supplied all the iPads and training as well as the app itself. Even so, the cost of the project is crazy. It's an app that is just randomly selects left or right.
I understand that software used for security checks at airports must be rigorously tested and reviewed, but I have a hard time believing such checks cost $1.4 million. In fact, I'm sure there's many reputable developers out there who'd supply the TSA with the same app for a few thousand dollars.
Colorado clinic shooter hoped fetuses would thank him for stopping abortions (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-colorado-plannedparenthood-idUSKCN0X9068) :P
QuoteThe man accused of fatally shooting three people at a Colorado Planned Parenthood clinic last year said he hoped that when he died fetuses in heaven would thank him for stopping more abortions, court documents showed on Monday.
Robert Lewis Dear, 57, made the comments to police after he surrendered following a shooting rampage and five-hour siege last November at the Colorado Springs clinic that also left nine others injured.
Dear is charged with first-degree murder and attempted murder.
Among those killed were a young mother, a U.S. Army veteran and a police officer from a nearby university who responded to the scene.
The new disclosures emerged after El Paso County District Court Judge Gilbert Martinez agreed to unseal arrest and search warrant affidavits in the case.
Dear also told police that he was upset with Planned Parenthood for performing abortions and "the selling of body parts," according to the documents.
He said he admired Paul Hill, an anti-abortion extremist who was executed in Florida in 2003 for the murder of an abortion provider in 1994, police said.
A wounded victim told police that Dear approached her in the clinic parking lot and opened fire after saying that she "shouldn't have come here today," the documents said.
Dear ambushed several responding police officers, and was wearing a homemade ballistic vest comprised of silver coins and duct tape, police said.
In outbursts at earlier hearings and in media interviews, Dear called himself "a warrior for the babies," claiming he was guilty and that there would be no trial. He also said he wanted to fire his court-appointed lawyers and defend himself.
Martinez ordered the South Carolina native to undergo a competency examination at the state mental hospital to determine if he was fit to act as his own lawyer.
The court-appointed evaluation deemed him incompetent, his lawyers said in court filings.
In an interview with the Colorado Springs Gazette newspaper last month, Dear indicated that he may have changed his mind and might not fire his lawyers.
"Yeah, I want to be my own attorney," Dear told the newspaper. "But if my attorney will start following my rules and doing what I want, then maybe I'll work a deal with him."
Martinez will rule whether Dear is competent sometime after an April 28 hearing on the issue.
Saudis threaten to sell $750 billion US assets if Congress passes bill that would let 9/11 victims sue Saudi Arabia (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saudis-threaten-sell-750-billion-173000859.html)
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Saudi Arabia threatened to sell up to $750 billion worth of US assets held by the Kingdom if Congress passes a bill that would allow the Saudi government to be sued over 9/11, reports The New York Times' Mark Mazzetti (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-warns-ofeconomic-fallout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html).
Saudi Foreign Minister, Adel al-Jubeir, personally passed on the message last month during a trip to Washington, according to The Times.
The foreign minister was referring to the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, (https://www.schumer.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/-schumer-cornyn-announce-justice-against-sponsors-of-terrorism-act_legislation-long-sought-by-9/11-families-will-allow-victims-of-9/11-and-other-terrorist-acts-to-sue-foreign-countries--others-that-funded-al-qaeda-isis) (JASTA) which would let victims of 9/11 and other terrorist acts sue foreign sponsors of terrorism.
As Vice News noted when it was reintroduced in September, the Senate bill would pave the way for a lawsuit to proceed over Saudi Arabia's alleged role (https://news.vice.com/article/this-bill-would-allow-a-lawsuit-over-saudi-governments-alleged-role-in-911-to-proceed) in the 9/11 terror attacks.
Saudi Arabia has been arguing that it's immune from liability over 9/11 under a 1976 law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Sovereign_Immunities_Act) that makes it difficult to sue foreign countries in US courts. However, the JASTA legislation (https://www.schumer.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/-schumer-cornyn-announce-justice-against-sponsors-of-terrorism-act_legislation-long-sought-by-9/11-families-will-allow-victims-of-9/11-and-other-terrorist-acts-to-sue-foreign-countries--others-that-funded-al-qaeda-isis) would allow victims of terrorism on US soil to sue foreign sponsors of terrorism.
The Obama administration has been lobbying Congress to block the bill's passage, administration officials and congressional aides from both parties told The Times. The administration argues that the legislation would put Americans at legal risk overseas.
Meanwhile, "the Saudi threats have been the subject of intense discussions in recent weeks between lawmakers and officials from the State Department and the Pentagon," writes Mazzetti. "The officials have warned senators of diplomatic and economic fallout from the legislation."
The Saudi government has routinely denied any involved in 9/11. Additionally, the 9/11 Commission found "no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded the organization."
However, Mazzetti writes that suspicions about Saudi involvement have lingered because a 2002 inquiry from Congress cited evidence that Saudi officials living in the US were part of the 9/11 terror plot.
Notably, the Saudis' statement comes at time when US-Saudi relations are not as great as they once were following attempts to (kind of) patch things up with Iran (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33521655), the Saudis' regional rival, and ongoing questions about the roles both countries should play in the Middle East.
Check out the full story at the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-warns-ofeconomic-fallout-if-congress-passes-9-11-bill.html).
After 150 years, the American productivity miracle is over (http://qz.com/633080/the-rise-and-fall-of-american-productivity-growth/?utm_source=YPH_link_4)
Da li će ih ovo dovesti do propasti ili ne, ne znamo, tek Amerikanci će na novčanicu od dvadeset dolara da stave lik Harriet Tubman, žene rođene u ropstvu koja je kasnije radila na oslobađanju stotina robova (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-currency-idUSKCN0XH21W). Tumbanova će na aversu novčanice zameniti predsednika Endrua Džeksona koji je, naravno, sam bio robovlasnik.
Svaka čast...
Evo odmah i jednog mišljenja zašto je to loše:
Dishonoring General Jackson (http://cnsnews.com/commentary/patrick-j-buchanan/dishonoring-general-jackson)
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In Samuel Eliot Morison's "The Oxford History of the American People," there is a single sentence about Harriet Tubman.
"An illiterate field hand, (Tubman) not only escaped herself but returned repeatedly and guided more than 300 slaves to freedom."
Morison, however, devotes most of five chapters to the greatest soldier-statesman in American history, save Washington, that pivotal figure between the Founding Fathers and the Civil War — Andrew Jackson.
Slashed by a British officer in the Revolution, and a POW at 14, the orphaned Jackson went west, rose to head up the Tennessee militia, crushed an Indian uprising at Horseshoe Bend, Alabama, in the War of 1812, then was ordered to New Orleans to defend the threatened city.
In one of the greatest victories in American history, memorialized in song, Jackson routed a British army and aborted a British scheme to seize New Orleans, close the Mississippi, and split the Union.
In 1818, ordered to clean out renegade Indians rampaging in Georgia, Jackson stormed into Florida, seized and hanged two British agitators, put the Spanish governor on a boat to Cuba, and claimed Florida for the USA.
Secretary of State John Quincy Adams closed the deal. Florida was ours, and Jacksonville is among its great cities.
Though he ran first in popular and electoral votes in 1824, Jackson was denied the presidency by the "corrupt bargain" of Adams and Henry Clay, who got secretary of state.
Jackson came back to win the presidency in 1828, recognized the Texas republic of his old subaltern Sam Houston, who had torn it from Mexico, and saw his vice president elected after his two terms.
He ended his life at his beloved Hermitage, pushing for the annexation of Texas and nomination of "dark horse" James K. Polk, who would seize the Southwest and California from Mexico and almost double the size of the Union.
Was Jackson responsible for the Cherokees' "Trail of Tears"?
Yes. And Harry Truman did Hiroshima, and Winston Churchill did Dresden.
Great men are rarely good men, and Jackson was a Scots-Irish duelist, Indian fighter and slave owner. But then, Presidents Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe were slave owners before him.
To remove his portrait from the front of the $20 bill, and replace it with Tubman's, is affirmative action that approaches the absurd.
Whatever one's admiration for Tubman and her cause, she is not the figure in history Jackson was.
Indeed, if the fight against slavery is the greatest cause in our history, why not honor John Brown, hanged for his raid on Harper's Ferry to start a revolution to free the slaves, after he butchered slave owners in "Bleeding Kansas"? John Brown was the real deal.
But replacing Jackson with Tubman is not the only change coming.
The back of the $5 bill will soon feature Martin Luther King, Eleanor Roosevelt, and opera singer Marian Anderson, who performed at the Lincoln Memorial after being kept out of segregated Constitution Hall in 1939.
That act of race discrimination came during the second term of FDR, Eleanor's husband and the liberal icon who named Klansman Hugo Black to the Supreme Court and put 110,000 Japanese into concentration camps.
And, lest we forget, while Abraham Lincoln remains on the front of the $5 bill, the war he launched cost 620,000 dead, and his beliefs in white supremacy and racial separatism were closer to those of David Duke than Dr. King.
Alexander Hamilton, the architect of the American economy, will stay on the $10 bill, due in part to the intervention of hip-hop artists from the popular musical, "Hamilton," in New York.
But Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Sojourner Truth, who fought for women's suffrage, will be put on the back of the $10. While Anthony and Stanton appear in Morison's history, Sojourner Truth does not.
Added up, while dishonoring Andrew Jackson, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew is putting on the U.S. currency six women — three white, three African-American — and King.
No Catholics, no conservatives, no Hispanics, no white males were apparently even considered.
This is affirmative action raised to fanaticism, a celebration of President Obama's views and values, and a recasting of our currency to make Obama's constituents happy at the expense of America's greatest heroes and historic truth. Leftist role models for American kids now take precedence over the history of our Republic in those we honor.
While King already has a holiday and monument in D.C., were the achievements of any of these six women remotely comparable to what the six men honored on our currency — Washington, Jefferson, Hamilton, Jackson, President Grant and Ben Franklin — achieved?
Whatever may be said for Eleanor Roosevelt, compared to her husband, she is an inconsequential figure in American history.
In the dystopian novel, "1984," Winston Smith labors in the Ministry of Truth, dropping down the "memory hole" stories that must be rewritten to re-indoctrinate the party and proles in the new history, as determined by Big Brother. Jack Lew would have fit right in there.
A, ko o čemu, Amerikanci o klozetima:
Tens of thousands of people are calling for a Target boycott (http://www.businessinsider.com/target-boycott-over-transgender-bathroom-policy-2016-4)
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More than 182,000 people have signed a pledge to boycott Target after the retailer said it would welcome transgender customers to use any bathroom or fitting room that matches their gender identity.
The boycott pledge (https://www.afa.net/action-alerts/sign-the-boycott-target-pledge/) was started by the conservative American Family Association (AFA).
"Target's policy is exactly how sexual predators get access to their victims," AFA President Tim Wildmon said in an open letter (http://www.afa.net/the-stand/press-releases/2016/04/sign-the-boycott-target-pledge/#.VxjpKnHyIEk.facebook). "This means a man can simply say he 'feels like a woman today' and enter the women's restroom ... even if young girls or women are already in there."
Wildmon urged people to sign the boycott pledge, claiming the policy "poses a danger to wives and daughters." He also urged people to complain about the policy on Target's Facebook page.
He suggested that Target should install separate unisex bathrooms instead of giving all genders access to facilities designated for women or men.
Target clarified its position on transgender bathrooms in a statement on Tuesday.
"We welcome transgender team members and guests to use the restroom or fitting room facility that corresponds with their gender identity," the retailer said in the statement (https://corporate.target.com/article/2016/04/target-stands-inclusivity). "Everyone deserves to feel like they belong. And you'll always be accepted, respected and welcomed at Target."
Target's statement included a redesigned version of its signature bull's-eye logo to include a rainbow.
The move won Target a lot of praise on social media.
"You have, again, shown that your stores are inclusive and meant to be a safe haven, and I intend to repay your loyalty with my own," one customer wrote on Target's Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/target/).
Another customer wrote, "I want to tell you that I will forever be a Target shopper." A third said, "Thank you for always being a place I have felt welcomed."
Not all the feedback was positive, however.
"I am appalled by your decision," wrote one customer. "Shame on you."
Dozens said they would never shop at Target again as a result of the policy.
"Shame on Target," one critic wrote. "Restrooms have placards depicting gender on them for a reason. I will not step foot in another Target."
Target is following in the footsteps of Kroger, which also recently clarified its policy on gender-specific bathrooms (http://www.businessinsider.com/kroger-unisex-bathroom-sign-goes-viral-2016-3).
A Kroger in Athens, Georgia, posted a sign on its bathroom door saying: "We have a UNISEX bathroom because sometimes gender specific toilets put others into uncomfortable situations."
A customer snapped a photo of the sign and posted it to Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201798233874376&set=p.10201798233874376&type=3&theater), where the post went viral.
Companies are starting to weigh in on transgender issues after the governor of North Carolina signed a bill in late March forcing people to use the bathroom that corresponds with the sex listed on their birth certificate.
In Minnesota, where Target is headquartered, a Republican state senator proposed a bill that would limit access to restrooms and dressing rooms based on individuals' "biological sex."
US suicide rate surges, particularly among white people (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36116166)
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The suicide rate in the US has surged to its highest level in almost three decades, according to a new report (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db241.htm).
The increase is particularly pronounced among middle-age white people who now account for a third of all US suicides.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) report did not offer an explanation for the steep rise.
However, other experts have pointed to (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34714842) increased abuse of prescription opiates and the financial downturn that began in 2008 as likely factors.
The report did not break down the suicides by education level or income, but previous studies found rising suicide rates among white people without university degrees.
"This is part of the larger emerging pattern of evidence of the links between poverty, hopelessness and health," Robert D Putnam, a professor of public policy at Harvard, told the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/health/us-suicide-rate-surges-to-a-30-year-high.html).
CDC reported on Friday that suicides have increased in the US to a rate of 13 per 100,000 people, the highest since 1986.
Meanwhile, homicides and deaths from ailments like cancer and heart disease have declined.
In the past, suicides have been most common among white people, but the recent increases have been sharp. Image copyright CDC The overall suicide rate rose by 24% from 1999 to 2014, according to the CDC. However, the rate increased 43% among white men ages 45 to 64 and 63% for women in the same age-range.
In 2014, more than 14,000 middle-aged white people killed themselves.
That figure is double the combined suicides total for all blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Pacific Islanders, American Indians, and Alaska Natives.
The suicide rate declined for only two groups: black men and all people over 75.
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http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2232-my-son-died-at-sandy-hook-conspiracy-nuts-think-im-lying.html (http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2232-my-son-died-at-sandy-hook-conspiracy-nuts-think-im-lying.html)
One Alabama town just took anti-transgender bathroom laws to a new level (http://www.vox.com/2016/4/27/11518364/oxford-alabama-transgender-criminal)
A majority of millennials now reject capitalism, poll shows (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/04/26/a-majority-of-millennials-now-reject-capitalism-poll-shows/?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email)
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In an apparent rejection of the basic principles of the U.S. economy, a new poll shows that most young people do not support capitalism.
The Harvard University survey, which polled young adults between ages 18 and 29, found that 51 percent of respondents do not support capitalism. Just 42 percent said they support it.
It isn't clear that the young people in the poll would prefer some alternative system, though. Just 33 percent said they supported socialism. The survey had a margin of error of 2.4 percentage points.
The results of the survey are difficult to interpret, pollsters noted. Capitalism can mean different things to different people, and the newest generation of voters is frustrated with the status quo, broadly speaking.
All the same, that a majority of respondents in Harvard University's survey of young adults said they do not support capitalism suggests that today's youngest voters are more focused on the flaws of free markets.
"The word 'capitalism' doesn't mean what it used to," said Zach Lustbader, a senior at Harvard involved in conducting the poll, which was published Monday. For those who grew up during the Cold War, capitalism meant freedom from the Soviet Union and other totalitarian regimes. For those who grew up more recently, capitalism has meant a financial crisis from which the global economy still hasn't completely recovered.
[Bernie Sanders is profoundly changing how millennials think about politics (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/04/25/bernie-sanders-is-profoundly-changing-how-millennials-think-about-politics-poll-shows/)]
A subsequent survey that included people of all ages found that somewhat older Americans also are skeptical of capitalism. Only among respondents at least 50 years old was the majority in support of capitalism.
Although the results are startling, Harvard's questions accord with other recent research on how Americans think about capitalism and socialism. In 2011, for example, the Pew Research Center found that people ages 18 to 29 were frustrated with the free-market system.
In that survey (http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/little-change-in-publics-response-to-capitalism-socialism/), 46 percent had positive views of capitalism, and 47 percent had negative views — a broader question than what Harvard's pollsters asked, which was whether the respondent supported the system. With regard to socialism, by contrast, 49 percent of the young people in Pew's poll had positive views, and just 43 percent had negative views.
Lustbader, 22, said the darkening mood on capitalism is evident in the way politicians talk about the economy. When Republicans — long the champions of free enterprise — use the word "capitalism" these days, it's often to complain about "crony capitalism," he said.
"You don't hear people on the right defending their economic policies using that word anymore," Lustbader added.
It is an open question whether young people's attitudes on socialism and capitalism show that they are rejecting free markets as a matter of principle or whether those views are simply an expression of broader frustrations with an economy in which household incomes have been declining for 15 years.
On specific questions about how best to organize the economy, for example, young people's views seem conflicted. Just 27 percent believe government should play a large role in regulating the economy, the Harvard poll found, and just 30 percent think the government should play a large role in reducing income inequality. Only 26 percent said government spending is an effective way to increase economic growth
Yet 48 percent agreed that "basic health insurance is a right for all people." And 47 percent agreed with the statement that "Basic necessities, such as food and shelter, are a right that the government should provide to those unable to afford them."
"Young people could be saying that there are problems with capitalism, contradictions," Frank Newport, the editor in chief of Gallup, said when asked about the new data. "I certainly don't know what's going through their heads."
John Della Volpe, the polling director at Harvard, went on to personally interview a small group of young people about their attitudes toward capitalism to try to learn more. They told him that capitalism was unfair and left people out despite their hard work.
"They're not rejecting the concept," Della Volpe said. "The way in which capitalism is practiced today, in the minds of young people — that's what they're rejecting."
The millennial generation is now the largest, most ethnically diverse generation in American history.
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Half Of Americans Think Presidential Nominating System 'Rigged' - Poll (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/presidential-nominating-system-rigged_us_57209f59e4b01a5ebde40051)
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More than half of American voters believe that the system U.S. political parties use to pick their candidates for the White House is "rigged" and more than two-thirds want to see the process changed, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.
The results echo complaints from Republican front-runner Donald Trump and Democratic challenger Bernie Sanders that the system is stacked against them in favor of candidates with close ties to their parties – a critique that has triggered a nationwide debate over whether the process is fair.
The United States is one of just a handful of countries that gives regular voters any say in who should make it onto the presidential ballot. But the state-by-state system of primaries, caucuses and conventions is complex. The contests historically were always party events, and while the popular vote has grown in influence since the mid-20th century, the parties still have considerable sway.
One quirk of the U.S. system - and the area where the parties get to flex their muscle - is the use of delegates, party members who are assigned to support contenders at their respective conventions, usually based on voting results. The parties decide how delegates are awarded in each state, with the Republicans and Democrats having different rules.
The delegates' personal opinions can come into play at the party conventions if the race is too close to call - an issue that has become a lightning rod in the current political season.
Another complication is that state governments have different rules about whether voters must be registered as party members to participate. In some states, parties further restrict delegate selection to small committees of party elites, as the Republican Party in Colorado did this year.
'SO FLAWED'
"I'd prefer to see a one-man-one-vote system," said Royce Young, 76, a resident of Society Hill, South Carolina, who supports Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton. "The process is so flawed."
Trump has repeatedly railed against the rules, at times calling them undemocratic. After the Colorado Republican Party awarded all its delegates to Ted Cruz, for example, Trump lashed out in a Wall Street Journal opinion piece, charging "the system is being rigged by party operatives with 'double-agent' delegates who reject the decision of voters."
Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus has dismissed Trump's complaints as "rhetoric" and said the rules would not be changed before the Republican convention in July.
Trump swept the five Northeastern nominating contests on Tuesday in Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, Connecticut and Rhode Island. The New York billionaire has 950 delegates to 560 for Cruz, a U.S. senator from Texas, and 153 for Kasich, the Ohio governor, according to the Associated Press. A total of 1,237 delegates are needed to secure the Republican nomination.
On the Democratic side, Sanders, a U.S. senator from Vermont, has taken issue with the party's use of superdelegates, the hundreds of elite party members who can support whomever they like at the convention and who this year overwhelmingly back front-runner Hillary Clinton.
Clinton has repeatedly emphasized that she is beating Sanders in both total votes cast and in pledged delegates, those who are bound by the voting results - rendering his complaints about superdelegates moot.
On Tuesday, the former secretary of state won Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware and Connecticut, while Sanders won in Rhode Island. Clinton leads Sanders by 2,141 delegates to 1,321, according to the AP, with 2,383 needed to win the nomination.
Sanders has also criticized party bosses for not holding enough prime-time television debates and said before a string of primaries open only to registered Democrats this month that "independents have lost their right to vote," referring to a voter block that has tended to favor him.
A Democratic National Committee official was not immediately available to comment.
'ARCANE RULES'
Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics, said the U.S. presidential nominating system could probably be improved in a number of areas, but noted that the control wielded by party leadership usually became an issue only during tight races.
"The popular vote overwhelms the rules usually, but in these close elections, everyone pays attention to these arcane rules," he said.
Some 51 percent of likely voters who responded to the April 21-26 online survey said they believed the primary system was "rigged" against some candidates. Some 71 percent of respondents said they would prefer to pick their party's nominee with a direct vote, cutting out the use of delegates as intermediaries.
The results also showed 27 percent of likely voters did not understand how the primary process works and 44 percent did not understand why delegates were involved in the first place. The responses were about the same for Republicans and Democrats.
Overall, nearly half said they would also prefer a single primary day in which all states held their nominating contests together - as opposed to the current system of spreading them out for months.
The poll included 1,582 Americans and had a credibility interval of 2.9 percentage points.
Hej, ovako mogu i ja!!!
Kao Delboj: Nastavnik francuskog koji zna da kaže samo "Bonžur" (http://www.b92.net/zivot/vesti.php?yyyy=2016&mm=05&dd=03&nav_id=1126951)
QuoteJedan profesor francuskog u srednjoj školi u Teksasu trebalo bi da bude otpušten, jer je nedavno otkriveno da je jedino što zna da kaže na tom jeziku – "Bonžur" (Dobar dan).
Albert Mojer "predaje" francuski pet meseci, ali njegovi đaci tvrde da on na tom jeziku ne zna da kaže ništa više od pozdrava.
Čovek pored kog bi i Delboj iz kultne serije "Mućke" izgledao kao vrhunski poznavalac francuskog čak ne razume pitanja svojih đaka i posavetovao ih je da sve odgovore traže na Guglu.
Roditelji su obavešteni o ovom slučaju kada je lokalna televizijska stanica pokrenula istragu i okrivila direktora škole za ovaj propust.
xrofl
Medical Errors Are No. 3 Cause Of U.S Deaths, Researchers Say (http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/05/03/476636183/death-certificates-undercount-toll-of-medical-errors)
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A study by researchers at Johns Hopkins Medicine says medical errors should rank as the third leading cause of death in the United States — and highlights how shortcomings in tracking vital statistics may hinder research and keep the problem out of the public eye.
The authors, led by Johns Hopkins surgeon Dr. Martin Makary (http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/profiles/results/directory/profile/0018306/martin-makary), call for changes in death certificates to better tabulate fatal lapses in care. In an open letter (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2822345-Hopkins-CDC-letter.html), they urge the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to immediately add medical errors to its annual list reporting the top causes of death.
Based on an analysis of prior research, the Johns Hopkins study estimates that more than 250,000 Americans die each year from medical errors. On the CDC's official list, that would rank just behind heart disease and cancer, which each took about 600,000 lives in 2014, and in front of respiratory disease, which caused about 150,000 deaths.
Medical mistakes that can lead to death range from surgical complications that go unrecognized to mix-ups with the doses or types of medications patients receive.
But no one knows the exact toll taken by medical errors. In significant part, that's because the coding system used by CDC to record death certificate data doesn't capture things like communication breakdowns, diagnostic errors and poor judgment that cost lives, the study says.
"You have this overappreciation and overestimate of things like cardiovascular disease, and a vast underrecognition of the place of medical care as the cause of death," Makary said in an interview. "That informs all our national health priorities and our research grants."
The analysis (http://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139) was published Tuesday in The BMJ, formerly the British Medical Journal.
Bob Anderson, chief of the mortality statistics branch for the CDC, disputed that the agency's coding is the problem. He said complications from medical care are listed on death certificates and that codes do capture them.
The CDC's published mortality statistics, however, count only the "underlying cause of death," defined as the condition that led a person to seek treatment. As a result, even if a doctor does list medical errors on a death certificate, they aren't included in the published totals. Only the underlying condition, such as heart disease or cancer, is counted, even when it isn't fatal.
Anderson said the CDC's approach is consistent with international guidelines, allowing U.S. death statistics to be compared with those of other countries. As such, it would be difficult to change "unless we had a really compelling reason to do so," Anderson said.
The Johns Hopkins authors said the inability to capture the full impact of medical errors results in a lack of public attention and a failure to invest in research. They called for adding a new question to death certificates specifically asking if a preventable complication of care contributed.
"While no method of investigating and documenting preventable harm is perfect," the authors write, "some form of data collection of death due to medical error is needed to address the problem."
Anderson, however, said it's an "uncomfortable situation" for a doctor to report that a patient died from a medical error. Adding a check box to the death certificate won't solve that problem, he said, and a better strategy is to educate doctors about the importance of reporting errors.
"This is a public health issue, and they need to report it for the sake of public health," he said.
Dr. Tejal Gandhi, president of the National Patient Safety Foundation, said her organization refers to patient harm as the third leading cause of death. Better tracking would improve funding and public recognition of the problem, she said.
"If you ask the public about patient safety most people don't really know about it," she said. "If you ask them the top causes of death, most people wouldn't say 'preventable harm.' "
Dr. Eric Thomas, a professor of medicine at the University of Texas Houston Medical School whose research was cited in the Institute of Medicine's landmark To Err is Human report (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiur_us3b7MAhXEPz4KHbkEBMAQFggcMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nationalacademies.org%2Fhmd%2F%7E%2Fmedia%2FFiles%2FReport%2520Files%2F1999%2FTo-Err-is-Human%2FTo%2520Err%2520is%2520Human%25201999%2520%2520report%2520brief.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHRb4M-6-OYiWVTcTbqQf4UzzK%E2%80%94g&bvm=bv.121099550,d.cWw), said existing estimates aren't precise enough to support immediately listing errors as the third leading cause of death.
But collecting better cause-of-death data is a good idea, said Thomas, who agreed that medical errors are underreported.
"If we can clarify for the public and lawmakers how big a problem these errors are," he said, "you would hope it would lead to more resources toward patient safety."
Не желим ни да мислим колико је на Балкану...
Pogađate za koga već mesec i kusur dana lobiram po fejsu? :mrgreen:
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Ovo ko iz vica, ali se izgleda stvarno dogodilo. Amerika...
American Airlines Passenger Sees Math, Assumes Terrorism (http://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2016-05-07/professors-airplane-math-didnt-equal-airplane-threat)
QuotePHILADELPHIA (AP) — An Ivy League professor said his flight was delayed because a fellow passenger thought the math equations he was writing might be a sign he was a terrorist.
American Airlines confirms that the woman expressed suspicions about University of Pennsylvania economics professor Guido Menzio. She said she was too ill to take the Air Wisconsin-operated flight.
Menzio said he was flying from Philadelphia to Syracuse on Thursday night and was solving a differential equation related to a speech he was set to give at Queen's University in Ontario, Canada. He said the woman sitting next to him passed a note to a flight attendant and the plane headed back to the gate. Menzio, who is Italian and has curly, dark hair, said the pilot then asked for a word and he was questioned by an official.
"I thought they were trying to get clues about her illness," he told The Associated Press in an email. "Instead, they tell me that the woman was concerned that I was a terrorist because I was writing strage things on a pad of paper."
Menzio said he explained what he had been doing and the flight took off soon afterward. He was treated respectfully throughout, he added. But, he said, he was concerned about a delay that a brief conversation or an Internet search could have resolved.
"Not seeking additional information after reports of 'suspicious activity' ... is going to create a lot of problems, especially as xenophobic attitudes may be emerging," he said.
American spokesman Casey Norton said the Air Wisconsin crew followed protocol to take care of an ill passenger and then to investigate her allegations. Norton wouldn't specify the details of the allegations, but said officials determined them to be non-credible. The woman was rebooked on a later flight.
Copyright 2016 The Associated Press (http://www.ap.org). All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
A baš kad smo pomislili da američki zatvori ne mogu da budu još više dehumanizujući, oni smisle da posete više ne treba da se odvijaju u meatspaceu i umesto toga kreiraju skup i nepouzdan sistem video-četinga. :cry: :cry: :cry:
The End of Prison Visitation (http://mic.com/articles/142779/the-end-of-prison-visitation#.wec6GR9VY)
QuoteA new system called "video visitation" is replacing in-person jail visits with glitchy, expensive Skype-like video calls. It's inhumane, dystopian and actually increases in-prison violence — but god, it makes money.
Losing connection The only way Lauren Johnson could see Ashika Renae Coleman at the Travis County Correctional Complex in Del Valle, Texas, was via video conference from seven miles away in Austin.
Coleman and Johnson had met in 2012 in a rehabilitation program that tries to build trust and community among incarcerated women through theater. Both had been to prison for drug-related offenses.
Johnson got out in 2011. She became an activist helping former convicts like herself re-enter society. Coleman had similarly altruistic ambitions when she was released, and planned to create a sober house for the formerly incarcerated. But after returning to a husband still suffering from addiction, she relapsed and ended up back in Travis County jail on another drug-possession charge.
Johnson logged into the Securus Technologies website — a Skype-like communication system used by the Travis County jail — on her PC laptop. But the video player didn't have the latest version of Java. When Johnson installed it, the system insisted she had not. So Johnson tried another laptop — a MacBook this time. Java was working this time, Flash was not.
Thinking the browser might be the problem, Johnson tried launching the video player in Chrome, then switched to Safari before giving up and using the Securus Android app on her phone.
Finally, Coleman's face appeared on screen — barely. For the entire call, a glitch in the system caused Coleman's image to look like a tangle of window blinds. Johnson wanted to talk to Coleman about her case, but through most of the call, she simply repeated, "Hello — can you hear me now?" Johnson was charged $10 for the video visit, even after cutting it a few minutes short of the 20-minute maximum.
All the while, Coleman waited alone in jail at a computer terminal. She had no other option. To see anyone but a prison guard, the only way was through a video feed.
Travis County ended all in-person visitations in May 2013, leaving video visitation as the exclusive method for people on the outside to communicate with the incarcerated. But Travis County is only on the leading edge of a new technological trend that threatens to abolish in-person visitation across the country. Over 600 prisons in 46 states have some sort of video visitation system, and every year, more of those facilities do away with in-person visitation.
Anticipating the arrival of friends and family, making eye contact, holding a child's hand — these are the experiences and memories that give someone the resilience they need to make it in prison. A visit can alleviate the suffering that comes cold confinement and the brutality of unpredictable violence that erupts between inmates.
Once people leave prison and return to society, their ability to thrive depends on the support network they left behind when they were incarcerated. In-person visits keep those relationships alive in a way that speaking through a flickering monitor does not.
"It's just too much frustration to come down here, wait for an hour and then only get 25 minutes for a not-so-good call," Coleman said when the connection improved for a moment. "I think the hassle is why people don't visit me as much anymore."
Extorting inmates' families is big business You may have heard of the prison industrial complex (http://criticalresistance.org/about/not-so-common-language/), but the companies that provide corrections facilities with their communications technologies are an industrial complex all their own. Three companies dominate the prison comms business: Securus, Telmate and Global Tel Link, also called GTL — the Verizon, AT&T and Sprint of jails.
Long before video visitation existed, prison phone calls were the bread and butter of these companies. With exclusive contracts (http://atavist.ibtimes.com/fcc-prison-telecom-industry) protecting them from competition, the trio of prison telecom giants ratcheted up the prices until a single phone call could cost upward of $14 a minute.
For the families of the 2.3 million incarcerated Americans nationwide, crippling costs are part and parcel of supporting a loved one in jail. A sweeping survey of families by the Ella Baker Center showed (http://whopaysreport.org/executive-summary/) that more than 1 in 3 families goes into debt just to cover the costs of keeping in touch with their loved one. Of everyone pouring money into those systems, 87% are women.
These fees are the linchpin in an elaborate racket between telecommunications providers, prisons and local governments. The business model for the three major prison telecoms is built around long-term contracts that establish them as the sole provider in a given county or state. In order to win these contracts, the major companies promise each county or state (http://www.ibtimes.com/how-prison-phone-calls-became-tax-poor-2342043) "site commissions" — a euphemism for kickbacks. These deals are lucrative: In Los Angeles County, for example, it brings in a baseline, contractual guarantee of $15 million a year. In some counties, this money trickles back down to the prisons.
After decades of abuse, the Federal Communications Commission voted in October to cap phone rates at 11 cents per minute. GTL and Securus filed suit against the FCC. The telecoms argue the FCC has overstepped its legal authority in imposing the rate cap and that the lost revenue will leave the companies unable to fulfill their contractual obligation to pay the counties. The regulations are on hold while the FCC fights for the price caps to take hold.
If the FCC stops the telecoms from gouging families for phone fees, the next frontier is, well, any other service those companies provide. One of those lucrative new products is prison email (https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/publications/youve-got-mail-promise-cyber-communication-prisons-ppi-2016/), in which families are charged for digital "stamps." The other is video visitation.
The FCC is already looking to regulate other kinds of communication, but it could be months, even years, before it gets around to addressing digital communication. So while the FCC lumbers toward capping phone costs, the prison telecoms can get the same money from innocent families using systems the FCC hasn't gotten around to regulating yet.
"This is a fertile ground for abuse, since the FCC is taking modes of communications one by one, rather than [with] comprehensive, all-at-once policy," Aleks Kajstura, legal director of the Prison Policy Institute, told Mic.
Prisons have their own incentive. Officials across the country, including (http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Harris-County-Jail-visitors-hardly-can-hear-6000314.php) Brandon Wood of the Texas Commission on Jail Standards, argue that visitation is a privilege and not a right — and that visitations are a security risk.
But the true incentive is keeping costs low. Video visitation requires fewer full-time prison staff members, so if the private contractors are willing to run the visitation system themselves, it's a pretty sweet deal for counties. Especially when those contractors are paying their way in.
The case for visitation Jorge Renaud is notorious to prison officials in Texas as a troublemaker — not for his three convictions for burglary and robbery, but as a writer and editor of the Echo, Texas' newspaper by and for the incarcerated. During his 27 years in prison, he wrote about everything from gang wars and AIDS to incarcerated mothers and neglectful guards — anti-establishment writing that embarrassed prison officials.
At the time, he took the prison administration to task for preventing some inmates from having physical contact with visitors, forcing them to see their loved ones through a glass panel instead. He studied philosophers like Immanuel Kant and Michel de Montaigne, reading "the Chicano poets" and writing a 2002 book on navigating prison, Behind the Walls: A Guide for Families and Friends of Texas Prison Inmates.
During Renaud's time behind bars, visits from his wife and daughter served as a lifeline while awaiting parole, which finally came in 2008.
"The incredible anticipation and fulfillment of knowing they care enough to come can be the difference between you comporting with the rules, and being more human and aware and knowing the consequences of your actions and being willing to moderate and understand them," he said.
In 2014, Renaud was arrested for drinking and driving, and because he had violated the conditions of his parole, he ended up in jail once more — perhaps briefly, perhaps for the rest of his life.
But this time, no one could visit him. During the time Renaud was free, Travis County had quietly stopped in-person visitation, replacing it with Securus Technologies' video visitation system. His then-girlfriend Jaynna Sims was managing his affairs on the outside, but he could never meet with her, never look her in the eye, never hold her hand.
There were two options for Renaud and Sims to see each other: Sims could come down to the jail twice a week for a 20-minute video session for free. Or she could stay at home, risk it on her own computer and pay $10 for 20 minutes. Paid video visits were, of course, unlimited.
Sims said she racked up hundreds of dollars in fees a month, and when connection would cut out, she'd call up Securus' customer service to complain. It rarely helped; one time, customer service just hung up on her. (We reached out to both Securus and representatives of Securus-owned companies for comment on this story. Securus never responded.)
Anyone with a smartphone knows the road rage-like frustration of trying to speak through a bad connection. Imagine struggling through an expensive conversation in the midst of a crisis, like an accident or medical emergency; imagine being unable to reach the only people providing you a little bit of normalcy.
"There's an incredible despair and anger at this system, this fucking screen in front of you that wavers in and out," Renaud said.
Renaud spent three months in jail before he pled guilty to a diminished charge of reckless driving. Once he got out, Renaud got in touch with Bob Libal and Kymberlie Quong Charles at Austin's Grassroots Leadership, a leading network of advocates in the fight against prison profiteering. He recounted to them his outrage at the profiteering and exploitation — the hopelessness of fighting with faulty technology in order to reach the people he needed most.
So Libal and Quong Charles told Renaud, the notorious prison scribe, to put pen to paper again, and in a few short months, Renaud churned out the earliest damning report (http://grassrootsleadership.org/sites/default/files/uploads/Video%20Visitation%20%28web%29.pdf) of the effects of video visitation systems on jail populations to marshal the local advocates and legislators to restore in-person visitation to Travis County.
County officials across the country claim video visitation is good for security. When Renaud got ahold of prison records, they showed that incidences of inmate-on-inmate violence, disciplinary infractions and possession of contraband all rose (http://grassrootsleadership.org/sites/default/files/uploads/Video%20Visitation%20%28web%29.pdf) after Travis County did away with in-person visitation. Because visitation is so new, these statistics are the earliest indication that the pro-security pitch for video visitation is all snake oil.
But perhaps the strongest case for visitation is that it keeps people out of jail. Prison recidivism goes way down for those who keep up strong family and community ties throughout their incarcerations.
The past decade in research shows consistently (http://www.doc.state.mn.us/pages/files/large-files/Publications/11-11MNPrisonVisitationStudy.pdf) that maintaining the relationships the incarcerated will inevitably return to for support once they're released is a powerful agent in keeping them from repeat offenses. One study of over 16,000 incarcerated people found that any visitation at all, even just once, reduced the risk (http://www.corrections.com/news/article/30435-prison-visits-make-inmates-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-after-release-study-finds) of recidivism by 13% for felony reconvictions.
After the report came out in October 2014, Renaud worked with Quong Charles and Johnson to push for legislation that would make sure every jail in Texas kept some sort of in-person visitation. Working with Dallas Rep. Eric Johnson, they drafted HB 549 (ftp://ftp.legis.state.tx.us/bills/84R/billtext/html/house_bills/HB00500_HB00599/HB00549F.htm (http://ftp://ftp.legis.state.tx.us/bills/84R/billtext/html/house_bills/HB00500_HB00599/HB00549F.htm)), a bill establishing an inmate's right to a bare minimum of two 20-minute visitations per week. Only two months later, the law was introduced in the Texas House of Representatives.
Texas justice When Sarah Eckhardt walked out of a Travis County commissioners' hearing in October 2012, she was grateful that video visitation was on its way to Travis County. A vote was called to decide whether to introduce video visitation to the Travis County Correctional Complex. Eckhart, a county commissioner at the time, thought that if only she'd had video visitation when her nephew was incarcerated in California, she'd be able to visit him any time from Texas.
During the meeting, Travis County Judge Sam Biscoe asked Darren Long, the major of corrections who led the charge to bring video visitation to the jail, if video would serve as a supplement or a substitute to in-person visitation. Long assured there would be no change in policy. The commissioners court voted in favor of the proposal, at ease that in-person visitation was there to stay.
Two years later, in 2014, Eckhardt got a call from Grassroots Leadership's Libal, who told her Travis County had switched over to video visitation entirely. She told him he most certainly was mistaken.
"Go look at the website," Libal said.
She navigated to the prison's visitation policy, which said that the only way to visit someone in jail was through video conference. The prison had done away with in-person visitation a year prior, and had just finalized a new contract with Securus that wasn't up for negotiation until 2015.
She called Long, reminding him he had promised there'd be no change in policy. "Darren, you said nothing was going to change," Eckhardt recalled saying. "He said, 'Well that's true, nothing did change — we'd already made that policy determination.'" In other words, when commissioners had asked for assurance that in-person visitation would remain, Long omitted the key fact that prison officials had already settled on getting rid of in-person visitation.
A native Texan whose father served as a U.S. congressman for 14 years, Eckhardt had just won a landslide election to take on Biscoe's soon-to-be vacant seat, becoming the first woman to serve as Travis County judge.
"I put it on my agenda that if [in-person visitation] wasn't reinstated while it was off the dais, I would make sure it was reinstated once I was back on," she said in her Austin office.
Eckhardt found an ally in Sally Hernandez, a Travis County constable running for sheriff. At the forefront of Hernandez's political platform was progressive reform to the sheriff's office, with the restoration of in-person visitation as a key issue.
"Just doing only video visitations, to me, is inhumane," Hernandez said. "If you're talking about a plea bargain, or you haven't seen your child, it has an emotional impact. It doesn't help an inmate make wise decisions, or have contact and the support of their family."
Hernandez won the Democratic primary in March, pledging to work with Eckhardt to protect the right to in-person visitation. In Austin's electoral history, the Democratic nominee is the typical shoo-in, so it's likely that come next year, Hernandez will be sheriff of Travis County.
The power and politics to govern these contracts will be in the hands of a county judge and, soon, a sheriff who believe in-person visitation is vital.
The gathering storm HB 549 passed (http://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2016-04-20/face-to-face-visitation-returns-to-travis-county/) in the Texas House and Senate in May 2015. When Gov. Greg Abbott failed to sign or veto the law within the 20-day window set forth in the Texas Constitution, it became law by default, ensuring that people in hundreds of county jails across the state would be entitled to two, live in-person visitations a week.
But Travis County wasn't going to get in-person visitation back.
At least 22 of Texas' 254 counties fought and won an exemption (http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2015-09-25/face-to-face/) to the new rules, claiming that they'd already dedicated significant resources to going full-video. Under the exemption, any county that had "incurred significant design, engineering or construction costs" in switching to video-only visitation by Sept. 1 didn't have to keep in-person visitation. But one thing advocates for in-person visitation had failed to do was narrowly define what "significant cost" meant.
This gave counties months to incur costs that could help an exemption. In San Antonio, for example, the county committed $6 million to a new video visitation center despite the protestations of families and activists (http://www.sacurrent.com/sanantonio/screen-to-screen-bexar-county-jail/Content?oid=2457035), and won an exemption. Without a clear definition, any county that spent more than nothing was able to make a case for an exemption.
Travis County was headed for the same fate as San Antonio, until Judge Sarah Eckhardt was tipped off to a caveat. Travis County hadn't incurred any significant costs at all for setting up video visitation. All of the systems had been paid for by Securus Technologies.
On April 19, in-person visitation was restored to Travis County.
HB 549 established an incarcerated person's right to in-person visits in Texas' county jails — at least for now.
But Doug Smith, a policy analyst with the Texas Criminal Justice Coalition, is worried that upcoming hearings in the state senate could still jeopardize the bill in the future.
"They'll have a hearing, people will be called to the Capitol and given the opportunity to testify, and the committee would issue recommendations based on what they've heard," Smith said over the phone. "Right now, most counties are safe, but I take nothing for granted."
Other states have begun their battle. In California, where 11 counties have either exclusively switched over to video visitation or are well on the way, state senators have begun work on SB 1157 (http://www.ellabakercenter.org/in-the-news/senator-mitchell-bill-to-prohibit-california-jails-from-eliminating-in-person-visitation), a bill that would prevent county jails and private institutions from doing away with in-person visits.
But this is the beginning of a tech-driven shift in the way the prison telecoms do business, and none of the other 40 states that have introduced some kind of video visitation has anything as comprehensive as Texas' bill. Securus already has its hands in 3,400 corrections facilities in 48 states, and is constantly renegotiating its contracts.
But Jaynna Sims, who'd supported Jorge Renaud while he was hidden for three months behind video visitation, still knows the trauma inflicted by a system she says "never gives you a break," even with the battle behind her.
"People get out eventually, and they're coming back into the community," Sims said. "If we want to make life as miserable as possible and make sure they don't have growth or healing in jail, we can keep doing what we're doing. But if we don't want them to be worse off when they come back, we have to care about how we treat them in prisons and jails."
That trauma is felt anywhere families are trying to rehabilitate their loved ones — not reaching for hands through prison bars, but with faint voices through fading bars of failing reception, struggling to hold on to the connection.
"The opportunity to sit face to face and just have a personal connection is the one reprieve you get in all of this," Sims said. "But once you take away in-person visitation, you don't have that. It's like the system keeps finding ways to victimize people. And how can that, in any way, heal an individual, or a community?"
Coleman, who Johnson only saw through a glitchy screen, took a deal for two years in prison. She hasn't been assigned to a facility yet, but Johnson promised Coleman she'd drive to visit, either an hour and a half away at Linda Woodman State Jail, or three hours to Lucile Plane in Dayton, Texas. Both facilities, for now, still have in-person visitation.
The above video clipswere taken with permission from the upcoming documentary (In)securus Technology: An Assault on Prisoner Rights, directed by Matthew Gossage for Grassroots Leadership.
Correction: May 6, 2016
A previous version of this story misstated the location of Lucile Plane State Jail. That facility is located in Dayton, Texas.
Na linku ima i videa i grafikona pa koga sve to zanima nek klikne.
Interesantna situacija:
Researcher arrested after reporting pwnage hole in elections site (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/09/researcher_arrested_after_reporting_pwnage_hole_in_elections_site/)
Dakle, čovek je čačkao vebsajt koji služi za elektronsko glasanje u okrugu Lee na Floridi, našao SQL slabost koja bi omogućila preuzimanje potpune kontrole nad sajtom i to prijavio nadležnima. Nadležni su onda poslali policiju koja ga je uhapsila i protiv njega je podneta optužnica od strane javnog tužioca za delo protiv imovine.
Sa jedne strane, čovek je klasičan "white hat" haker, dakle, haker koji, istina, upada u sisteme neovlašćeno i čačka ih da pronađe sigurnosne propuste ali onda, kada ih pronađe, ne proizvodi štetu već prijavljuje propuste onima koji bi trebalo da ih isprave.
Sa druge strane, de fakto je u pitanju nelegitimno i nelegalno upadanje u sisteme i bez obzira što nije pričinjena šteta, deluje kao da ima rezona da se taj čovek krivično goni - na kraju krajeva samo zato što vam nisam ništa ukrao iz kuće nakon što sam vam obio bravu i isključio alarm i posle vam napisao pismo da vam je brava loša a alarm jadan, ne znači da nisam počinio delo. Da ne govorimo o presedanu - ne kazniš jednog, eto za njim petorice koji možda isto nemaju nameru da načine ikakvu štetu ali možda baš i nisu tako vešti...
Međutim, sa treće strane, ovde se radi o javnom dobru (prezjumabli proizvedenom od poreza) koje je pripadnik te javnosti testirao da vidi da li zaista i bezbedno služi toj javnosti, utvrdio da ne i onda prijavio gde treba. Tužioci imaju zakonom garantovano pravo da ne pokreću tužbe u slučajevima kada je vidljivo da je delo počinjeno u sklopu aktivnosti usmerene ka opštijem dobru pa ovo deluje kao kratkovida odluka distrikt atrnija.
Interesantna situacija.
San Andreas fault is about to crack – here's what will happen when it does (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Opinion/2016/05/11/San-Andreas-fault-is-about-to-crack-heres-what-will-happen-when-it-does/6741462974519)
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The director of the Southern California Earthquake Center (https://www.scec.org/), Thomas Jordan, made an announcement recently that would have sent a chill down the spine of every Californian: that the San Andreas fault appears to be in a critical state and as such, could generate a large earthquake imminently.
Of course, the reiteration of the seismic hazard to Californians will be nothing surprising, but what is new is the warning that the southern portion of the fault "looks like it's locked, loaded and ready to go (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-andreas-fault-earthquake-20160504-story.html?track=san-diego)."
Why is this eminent seismologist making these alarming statements? Well, the fact is that there has not been a major release of stresses in the southern portion of the San Andreas fault system (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one) since 1857. In simple terms, the San Andreas is one of many fault systems roughly marking the border between the Pacific and North American tectonic plates. Both plates are moving in an approximately northerly direction, but the Pacific plate is moving faster than its North American counterpart, meaning that stresses between the plates are constantly building up.
In 1906, some of these stresses were catastrophically released in the San Francisco Bay area (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/nca/1906/18april/index.php) in a 7.8 magnitude event and again, in northern California, during the 6.9 magnitude 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/nca/1989/). Events of these magnitudes, however, have not occurred along the San Andreas fault in the south of the state – the 1994 Northridge event (http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2014/01/the-northridge-earthquake-20-years-ago-today/100664/) was associated with a nearby, but separate, fault system – leading to the suggestion that one is imminent and, given the amount of stress that might actually have accumulated, when it arrives it will be the "Big One (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3442906/Fresh-fears-Cascadia-fault-California-warned-big-one-hit-time-causing-damage-San-Andreas.html)."
How big is 'Big'?
So just how big could this potential earthquake be and is it possible that the destruction demonstrated in the film San Andreas (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2126355/) could actually come to fruition?
In short, Californians will be (reasonably) pleased with the answers to these questions. In the film, the San Andreas fault produces an earthquake with a magnitude (http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/topics/measure.php) of 9.0. While not unheard of globally, earthquakes of this size are generally confined to regions of the earth where subduction (http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/eoc/teachers/t_tectonics/p_subduction.html) – where one tectonic plate is being forced below another – is happening, for example in Chile and Japan. The tectonic situation in California is different. Here, two plates are sliding past each other.
As such, recent predictions (http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2015/3009/pdf/fs2015-3009.pdf) limit the possible maximum earthquake magnitude along the San Andreas fault system to 8.0, although with a 7 percent probability estimate that such an event could occur in Southern California in the next 30 years; over the same period, there is a 75 percent chance of a magnitude 7.0 event. While magnitudes of 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 might sound negligibly different, the energy that such events would unleash varies significantly, with a magnitude 9.0 event releasing 32 times more energy than a magnitude 8.0 and 1,000 times more energy than a magnitude 7.0.
Obviously, however, be it a 7.0 or an 8.0, damage is inevitable, but the whole sequence of events, as depicted in the film, is unlikely. For example, the San Andreas fault is not beneath the ocean and as such, any slippage along it could not displace water to the extent that a tsunami would be generated. The opening up of a massive chasm is also from the land of fantasy, as the plates are sliding relative to each other, not away from each other.
What is realistic, however, is that a great amount of destruction is likely. While the building codes in California (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Opinion/2016/05/11/San-Andreas-fault-is-about-to-crack-heres-what-will-happen-when-it-does/www.bsc.ca.gov/) are stringent, recommending retrofitting of seismic protection measures to older buildings and preventing the construction of new buildings near to known fault lines, there is no way to make a building 100 percent safe.
Predicting devastation
In an attempt to understand the effects of a large, southern San Andreas earthquake, the United States Geological survey modelled a 7.8 magnitude event, with slippage of 2-7 metres, to represent the stresses that have built up in the area since the last large event.
From this model, it was found that damage would be most severe to constructions straddling the fault. Fortunately, constructions of this sort are few and far between following the 1972 Alquist-Priolo Earthquake Fault Zoning Act (http://www.conservation.ca.gov/cgs/rghm/ap/Pages/main.aspx). What would be affected by this slippage, however, are the 966 roads, 90 fibre optic cables, 39 gas pipes and 141 power line that cross the fault zone.
The total cost of damage to buildings was estimated at $33 billion, with modern buildings faring well but older buildings being particularly susceptible. Fires would rage – as they did following the Northridge earthquake – as gas mains, and water pipes, become severed; in fact, the damage from resulting fires is estimated as more costly than that resulting from the initial shaking.
The overall death toll is estimated at 1,800. And just when things don't look like they can get any worse, the main event will have destabilized the tectonics of the region to such an extent that a series of potentially powerful aftershocks will begin. For example, in 2011, Christchurch, New Zealand was struck by a 6.2 magnitude event (http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/historic-earthquakes/page-13) and since then the city and surrounding region have experienced more than 10,000 aftershocks (http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11593554).
Fortunately, the film San Andreas is pure fiction, featuring the levels of exaggeration we are all used to from film makers who are, ironically, also based in southern California.
Even so, in all probability, the San Andreas is likely to generate a significant earthquake in the not too distant future. When it arrives, the damage will be significant and southern California will be massively affected. But Californians are no strangers to these events and the infrastructure of the state, in recent times, has been designed with earthquake protection in mind.
Forget tsunamis and deep chasms opening up, but do expect violent shaking, building damage, fires and widespread economic impacts as the region is out of action for potentially a long period of time.
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Matthew Blackett (http://theconversation.com/profiles/matthew-blackett-185480) is a senior lecturer in physical geography and natural hazards at Coventry University (http://theconversation.com/institutions/coventry-university) in England.
NYC Airports: We Can No Longer Tolerate TSA's 'Inadequacy' (https://gma.yahoo.com/nyc-airports-no-longer-tolerate-tsas-inadequacy-163404595--abc-news-topstories.html#)
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Travelers -- it's not just you.
Management of the New York City area's three major airports is fed up with long lines at security check points, and they have given the Transportation Security Administration (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/transportation-security-administration.htm) an ultimatum: Either shorten the lines or we'll find someone else to do it.
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, tasked with running John F. Kennedy, LaGuardia and Newark airports, is threatening to privatize the process of screening passengers before boarding their flight, according to a document sent from the Port Authority to TSA Administrator Peter Neffenger.
"We can no longer tolerate the continuing inadequacy of the TSA passenger services," the letter obtained by ABC News reads.
According to the Port Authority, the March 15 to April 15 period at JFK saw 253 reported occurrences of 20-plus-minute waits. In 2015, only 10 instances were reported over the same time period.
"The patience of the flying public has reached a breaking point," the letter reads. Passenger wait times have "risen dramatically in recent months, prompting angry complaints from passengers, terminal operators, and airlines alike citing inconvenience, delayed flights, and missed flight connections."
While the Port Authority says it understands the challenges facing TSA, it says it "is exploring the merits" of participating in private screening "to enhance flexibility in the assignments and operating hours of front line screening staff."
They wouldn't be the first.
The busiest airport in the country, Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport, made a similar threat in February.
There are less than two-dozen airports currently using private screening. Most of these airports are very small. However, there are exceptions.
San Francisco International Airport and Kansas City International Airport both have private firms handling a significant amount of passengers. These firms must meet the same standards and protocols as TSA and pay officers at least what TSA pays.
The airports and firms also must go through a process to get approved.
A TSA spokesperson said the agency is addressing the growing volume of travelers, but that "TSA's primary focus is the current threat environment, as the American transportation system remains a high value target for terrorists."
TSA said it will respond to the Port Authority directly. The agency said there is no noticeable difference in wait times between federalized and non-federalized screening points. The agency encourages travelers to sign up for TSA Pre or other trusted traveler programs like Global Entry and to arrive at airports at least two hours before a domestic flight.
Ima li kraja Obaminom saginjanju!?!??!??!?!
Barack Obama to visit Hiroshima - first US president to do so since 1945 nuclear attack (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/barack-obama-to-visit-hiroshima-first-us-president-to-do-so-since-1945-nuclear-attack-a7022361.html)
QuoteWith less than a year in office, President Barack Obama is continuing to make nothing less than history.
Two months after he became the first sitting US president in a century to visit Cuba, the White House has announced that he will visit Hiroshima, the first American leader to do so since the Japanese city was turned to rubble in 1945 by a US nuclear bomb.
Mr Obama and Japan Prime Minister Shinzo Abe will make the May 27 visit "to highlight his continued commitment to pursuing the peace and security of a world without nuclear weapons," White House spokesman Josh Earnest said in a statement. It will be Mr Obama's fourth visit to Japan.
When President Obama first visited Japan in November 2009, he said he hoped he would one day visit both Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where the United States dropped atomic bombs during the very final days of World War II.
"The memories of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are etched in the minds of the world, and I would be honored to have the opportunity to visit those cities at some point during my presidency," Mr Obama said at the time.
At least 140,000 people were killed, most of them civilians, when the city became synonymous with the first wartime use of a nuclear weapon on August 9 1945. Three days later, the US dropped a second atomic device on the city of Nagasaki and within a week Japan had surrendered to Allied forces. On May 27,
@POTUS (https://twitter.com/POTUS) will visit the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park. Here's what the visit means: https://t.co/myP3vgmtwJ (https://t.co/myP3vgmtwJ) pic.twitter.com/vMY7VbCY3z (https://t.co/vMY7VbCY3z)
— Ben Rhodes (@rhodes44) May 10, 2016 (https://twitter.com/rhodes44/status/730007847547756544)
Mr Obama's visit will follow that of Secretary of State John Kerry, who was among foreign ministers from G7 nations who took part in a ceremony at a peace park in the city in April. Britain's Philip Hammond also took part in the event.
Mr Kerry said his visit had been a "gut-wrenching" reminder of the need to get rid of nuclear weapons.
"It reminds everybody of the extraordinary complexity of choices in war and of what war does to people, to communities, to countries, to the world," he said.
A White House advisor, Ben Rhodes, wrote on Tuesday that Mr Obama will reflect on took place in the city 70 years ago (https://medium.com/@rhodes44/the-first-sitting-u-s-president-to-visit-hiroshima-1992461baf4c#.3vv6noihe). He said he would not revisit the use of an atomic bomb but "will offer a forward-looking vision focused on our shared future".
"To be sure, the United States will be eternally proud of our civilian leaders and the men and women of our armed forces who served in World War II for their sacrifice at a time of maximum peril to our country and our world," he said. "Their cause was just, and we owe them a tremendous debt of gratitude, which the President will again commemorate shortly after the visit on Memorial Day. This visit will offer an opportunity to honor the memory of all innocents who were lost during the war."
The
Associated Press said that the White House has ruled out the possibility that Obama will apologise for the bombing of Hiroshima.
On Tuesday, speaking to reporters in Tokyo, the Japanese Prime Minister said he hoped to turn "this into an opportunity for the US and Japan to together pay tribute to the memories of the victims" of the nuclear bombing.
"President Obama visiting Hiroshima and expressing toward the world the reality of the impact of nuclear radiation will contribute greatly to establishing a world without nuclear arms," he said, according to
Reuters.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-05-2016, 05:47:39
NYC Airports: We Can No Longer Tolerate TSA's 'Inadequacy' (https://gma.yahoo.com/nyc-airports-no-longer-tolerate-tsas-inadequacy-163404595--abc-news-topstories.html#)
zamalo da prebijem jednog sad na povratku iz usa. JFK airport, TSA (poslednji na gejtu pre aviona..da, da, i to ima) bio na nekim drogama ili alkoholisan ili idiot, krenuo da maltretira putnike, posebno tipa ispred mene koji je imao neku torbu s lekovima (kao: imas previse torbi i to je to - no solušn).
grešku je napravio kad nam je svima pokupio boarding passes jer se dalo očekivati da neće znati da ih vrati vlasnicima a da ne napravi nijednu grešku.
sačekah da moj završi kod žene koja je već krenula ka avionu i onda dreknuh: - security breach! :lol:
bilo je zabavno posle, dala sam ga max na inspiraciji.
dragi austrian airlines i rot zweigelt nakon toga...
Interesantna statistika, s obzirom da se stalno sluša kako policiju u SAD napadaju i ubijaju osobe ne-kavkaskog porekla: 71% ubica policajaca su indeed kavkaske provinijencije:
KING: White men killed more American police than any other group this year, but conservatives won't address the facts (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-cops-killed-white-men-conservatives-silent-article-1.2632965)
QuoteWould it shock you to learn that the number of police who've been shot and killed in 2016 is up an astounding 59% from where it was this same date last year? Seventeen police officers have already been shot and killed in 2016, by mid-May. Only 10 had suffered that fate (https://www.odmp.org/search/year?year=2015) by May 10th, 2015.
The drastic increase shocked the hell out of me. While I primarily track, study and report the number of people killed by police, I still follow police fatalities closely. Contrary to popular belief, despising police brutality does not mean I despise police officers. I appreciate all public servants and have both a police officer and a longtime Secret Service member in my family. They are amazing, kind-hearted men who do great work. I also despise gun violence and loathe every single fatality suffered because of it.
Something's afoot, though, on why we're not hearing much about this shocking increase in the number of officers who've been shot and killed so far in 2016. Sadly, I think I have the answer.
Seventy-one percent of police who've been shot and killed this year weren't murdered by black men with cornrows or hoodies. They weren't gunned down by Latino gang members in low-rider drive-bys. Those stereotypes would be too convenient. Instead, 71% of police who've been shot and killed so far in 2016 have been killed by good old-fashioned white men.
KING: White suspect runs from cops without fear of being shot at (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-white-suspects-run-cops-fear-shot-article-1.2618888)
Back in February, when police began protesting Beyoncé, I noticed then (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-white-men-killed-7-8-cops-u-s-year-article-1.2539913) that 7 out of the 8 officers who had been killed so far were killed by white men. My gut was that most of them weren't Beyoncé fans.
The trend continues. This past weekend police protested a Beyoncé concert in Houston (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2016/05/09/police-hold-protest-outside-beyoncs-houston-concert/84147414/). In the meantime, white men continue to murder police officers all over the country.
In fact, right around the same time police were protesting Beyoncé, a white man, Curtis Ayers, shot and killed Officer Brad Lancaster of Kansas City (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/kansas-city-detective-gunned-suspect-shot-police-article-1.2630777). Lancaster was a decorated Air Force veteran and a loving father of two.
The last officer before that to be shot and killed was Officer Steven Smith, also a married father of two. Lincoln Rutledge, the white man who killed him (http://wdtn.com/2016/04/12/columbus-swat-officer-steve-smith-dies-after-gunshot-sustained-in-sunday-shooting/), had also burned down his wife's home.
A month before that, Evan Dorsey, a white man who had been in and out of prison since 2008 (http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/who-is-evan-dorsey-man-accused-of-killing-koontz), shot and killed Deputy Carl Koontz, a married father with an 8-month-old baby (http://wishtv.com/2016/03/29/thousands-expected-to-attend-funeral-for-deputy-carl-koontz/).
You haven't seen these stories on Fox News or Breitbart because they don't fit their narrative of blaming police violence on the Black Lives Matter movement or President Obama. Because "scary" black faces can't be flashed across their screens, they don't even tell the stories at all — which suggests they don't care so much about police, but about using police deaths like a political football.
You best believe that if a 59% rise in the number of police officers shot and killed in the line of duty could be blamed on immigrants, Mexicans, or black folk, it would be a regular conservative talking point.
Instead, Donald Trump has never mentioned these fallen officers on the campaign trail because it may have very well been his supporters who did the shooting for all he knows.
It appears that blue lives only matter to popular conservatives when they are taken by somebody they can easily demonize. In the meantime, police groups continue to protest a black woman when a black woman hasn't killed an officer in years.
Američka toaletna saga se nastavlja, dobijajući sve apsurdnije prelive:
Woman Harassed in Bathroom for Appearing Transgender — and She's Not Alone (https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/women-harassed-in-bathroom-for-appearing-205610620.html)
QuoteA woman in a baseball cap who was harassed by a fellow bathroom-goer (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/woman-mistaken-transgender-harassed-walmart-bathroom-article-1.2638748) at a Connecticut Walmart over the weekend, apparently being mistaken for a transgender man, has been getting much media play this week.
Aimee Toms, 22, said in a video she posted to Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/never.shout.aimee/videos/vb.1473214698/10206543775341127/?type=3&theater) — already viewed more than 57,000 times — that she was using the bathroom at a Danbury Walmart on Friday when a woman suddenly approached her from behind and yelled, "You are not supposed to be here! You need to leave!" The woman then gave Toms the finger, told her she was "disgusting," and stormed out.
While the details of the situation are disturbing — particularly in light of various transgender "bathroom bills (http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/17/bathroom-bills-stall-amid-shower-of-criticism/)" being debated in North Carolina and beyond — similar episodes are neither rare nor new for women seen as being on the male end of the gender spectrum. And Toms' experience is shining a light on how such confrontations can affect women on the receiving end — as well as how the growing national frenzy around bathroom use (https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/new-ad-featuring-transgender-man-shows-absurdity-205034800.html) is emboldening citizens, more than ever, to become restroom gender vigilantes.
"OK, I get it, the baseball cap, I was wearing just a plain blue T-shirt, she saw me from the back, OK. I can get why at first glance she would mistake me for somebody who's transgender," Toms said in her video. (Although, if she were in fact a transgender male, then she would have been in the correct bathroom, according to transgender bathroom-bill proponents.) And, Toms added, "It really got my gears turning at how amazingly ridiculous this is becoming as an issue."
It can also be a major source of anxiety for tomboys and butch-identified women who, just like transgender people, deal with bathroom vigilantes (https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/transgender-man-sues-barbershop-for-turning-him-192220004.html) constantly. A recent Texas situation (http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/collin-county/man-follows-woman-into-restroom-after-mistaking-her-for-a-man/160568442), in which a man followed a woman into a restroom to make sure she wasn't a man, as well as another scene (http://www.complex.com/life/2016/04/police-force-lesbian-womens-bathroom-video) posted to Facebook (origins unknown) that shows a boyish-looking woman being chased out of a bathroom by security — are just a couple of examples of this issue. More were provided to Yahoo Beauty, in the form of personal stories, in response to an anecdote-seeking Facebook post on Tuesday.
"This whole debate is so misguided," one woman explained in her response. "It's all based on appearances, NOT gender identity. For most of the last decade, I have dreaded using public women's restrooms. I've had women stop me and start telling me I'm in the wrong bathroom. I've seen women come into the restroom, see me, then go back out and re-read the sign on the door to make sure they are in in the right restroom. I am not transgender and this is my reality because I 'look like a man' at first glance... or second glance."
According to Sasha Alexander, a spokesperson for the Sylvia Rivera Law Project (http://srlp.org/), a New York City transgender law resource, "There's a very symbolic meaning to entering a public restroom — it's so charged." Restrooms are and have pretty much always been, in fact, ground zero for anxiety, stress, and harassment for transgender people and for anyone not adhering to expected gender norms. That was the focus of an ahead-of-its time 2003 documentary, "Toilet Training (http://srlp.org/resources/toilettraining/)," created by the SRLP and filmmaker Tara Mateik, currently in the process of being updated to reflect the current national conversation.
And there's a lot of baggage and symbolism associated with public restrooms — a traditional battleground when it comes to civil rights and segregation. "Part of the issue with public spaces is, in some ways, it's a litmus test for where the country is at with many issues," Alexander tells Yahoo Beauty. "Bathrooms have become a central piece when you talk about gender — partly because of the sexist-vulnerability-of-women piece, and also because people want to make [gender] all about people's parts."
Just a sampling of other anecdotes shared with Yahoo Beauty illustrate that truth:
•"[This happens to me] all day long," noted one woman, of San Francisco. "Once at an airport restroom in San Diego, I was at the sink washing my hands and saw an elderly lady enter. She saw me in the mirror, looked confused, turned around, and walked out. Not one minute later she walked back in and poked me in the chest and said, "I thought I was in the wrong bathroom, but YOU'RE in the wrong bathroom." I would probably have less trouble if I used the bathroom NOT of the gender on my birth certificate."
•"I get a look pretty much every time I use a public restroom — because of how I carry myself, what I'm wearing," said a woman from New York City. "It's slightly annoying, because people just don't look. Usually people are trying to figure it out, or are questioning themselves as to whether or not they are in the right bathroom. One time, at a Connecticut highway rest stop, a male employee tried to stop me on my way in the bathroom, yelling, 'Hey! You can't go in there!' I said, 'I am a woman!' and kept going. He wouldn't let up, so I turned around, lifted my shirt and flashed him."
•"Barely a day goes by that I don't get at least a second look going into the women's room. This is OK with me," explained a mother of two from Sacramento. "I realize that, for a moment, a woman sincerely thinks that a man is walking into the women's room — and as a woman myself, I get that you would cognitively want to sort this out to determine if there was danger, an error, or something else going on. But what has happened several times over the years is a woman does the double take... and, I believe, knows I am a woman, but nonetheless looks me dead in the eye and says, 'Uh, this is the ladies room,' loud enough to be not meant for only me to hear and, I think, therefore, intended to shame."
"Some of this policing is always happening," Alexander notes. "But when you have presidential candidates asking 'are little girls safe?' it becomes very volatile... Part of where we need to see this discussion go is to see everyone accessing bathrooms and public space equally."
Refrence radi, žena iz naslova teksta izgleda ovako:
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Hiring Hurdle: Finding Workers Who Can Pass a Drug Test (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/18/business/hiring-hurdle-finding-workers-who-can-pass-a-drug-test.html?_r=0)
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SAVANNAH, Ga. — A few years back, the heavy-equipment manufacturer (http://www.jcbna.com?version=meter+at+null&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click) JCB (http://jcbna.com/?version=meter+at+null&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click)held a job fair in the glass foyer of its sprawling headquarters near here, but when a throng of prospective employees learned the next step would be drug testing, an alarming thing happened: About half of them left.
That story still circulates within the business community of this historic port city. But the problem has gotten worse.
All over the country, employers say they see a disturbing downside of tighter labor markets as they try to rebuild from the worst recession since the Depression: They are struggling to find workers who can pass a pre-employment drug test.
That hurdle partly stems from the growing ubiquity of drug testing, at corporations with big human resources departments, in industries like trucking where testing is mandated by federal law for safety reasons, and increasingly at smaller companies.
But data suggest employers' difficulties also reflect an increase in the use of drugs, especially marijuana — employers' main gripe — and also heroin and other opioid drugs much in the news.
Ray Gaster, the owner of lumberyards on both sides of the Georgia-South Carolina border, recently joined friends at a retreat in Alabama to swap business talk. The big topic? Drug tests.
"They were complaining about trying to find drivers, or finding people, who are drug-free and can do some of the jobs that they have," Mr. Gaster said. He shared their concern.
Drug use in the work force "is not a new problem. Back in the '80s, it was pretty bad, and we brought it down," said Calvina L. Fay, executive director of the Drug Free America Foundation (http://dfaf.org/?version=meter+at+1&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click). But, she added, "we've seen it edging back up some," and increasingly, both employers and industry associations "have expressed exasperation."
Data on the scope of the problem is sketchy because figures on job applicants who test positive for drugs miss the many people who simply skip tests they cannot pass.Nonetheless, in its most recent report, Quest Diagnostics, which has compiled employer-testing data since 1988, documented an increase for a second consecutive year in the percentage of American workers who tested positive for illicit drugs — to 4.7 percent (http://www.questdiagnostics.com/home/physicians/health-trends/drug-testing?version=meter+at+1&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click) in 2014 from 4.3 percent (http://www.questdiagnostics.com/home/physicians/health-trends/drug-testing?version=meter+at+1&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click) in 2013. And 2013 was the first year in a decade to show an increase.
John Sambdman, who employs about 100 people in Atlanta at Samson Trailways (https://samsontrailways.com/?version=meter+at+1&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click), which provides transportation for schools, events, tour groups and the military, must test job applicants and, randomly, employees. Many job seekers "just don't bother to show up at the drug-testing place," he complained. Just on Thursday, Mr. Sambdman said, an applicant failed a drug test.
In August, Gov. Nathan Deal of Georgia promised to develop a program to help because so many business owners tell him "the No. 1 reason they can't hire enough workers is they can't find enough people to pass a drug test."
That program is still under discussion. When job seekers contact Georgia's Department of Labor, which provides some recruitment services to employers, the state would like to begin testing them for drugs; individuals who test positive could receive drug counseling and ultimately job placement assistance, Mark Butler, the state labor commissioner, said in an interview.
"Obviously, it's not an easy process, and it would be costly," Mr. Butler said. "But you've got to think: What is the reverse of that?" People needed to fill jobs are turned away, and, he added, "it's pretty much a national issue."
In Indiana, Mark Dobson, president of the Economic Development Corporation of Elkhart County, said that when he went to national conferences, the topic was "such a common thread of conversation — whether it's in an area like ours that's really enjoying very low unemployment levels or even areas with more moderate employment bases."
In Colorado, "to find a roofer or a painter that can pass a drug test is unheard-of," said Jesse Russow, owner of Avalanche Roofing & Exteriors (http://avalancheexteriors.com/?version=meter+at+1&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click), in Colorado Springs. That was true even before Colorado, like a few other states, legalized recreational use of marijuana.
In a sector where employers like himself tend to rely on Latino workers, Mr. Russow tried to diversify three years ago by recruiting white workers, vetting about 80 people. But, he said, "As soon as I say 'criminal background check,' 'drug test,' they're out the door."
While the employers' predicament is worsened by a smaller hiring pool, the drug problem for those that require testing is not as bad as it once was. "If we go back to 1988, the combined U.S. work force positivity was 13.6 percent when drug testing was new," said Dr. Barry Sample, Quest's director of science and technology.
But two consecutive years of increases are worrisome, he said.
A much broader data trove, the federal government's annual National Survey on Drug Use and Health, reported in September that one in 10 Americans ages 12 and older (http://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/NSDUH-FRR1-2014/NSDUH-FRR1-2014.pdf?version=meter+at+1&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click) reported in 2014 that they had used illicit drugs within the last month — the largest share since 2001.
Taken together, Dr. Sample said, his data and the government's indicate higher drug use among those who work for employers without a drug-testing program than workers who are tested, though use by the latter increased as well in 2013 and 2014.
Testing dates to the Reagan administration. The 1988 Drug-Free Workplace Act required most employers with federal contracts or grants to test workers. In 1991, Congress responded to a deadly 1987 train (http://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/05/us/engineer-is-indicted-on-16-counts-of-manslaughter-in-amtrak-crash.html?version=meter+at+1&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click)crash (http://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/05/us/engineer-is-indicted-on-16-counts-of-manslaughter-in-amtrak-crash.html?version=meter+at+1&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click) in which two operators tested positive for marijuana by requiring testing for all "safety sensitive" jobs regulated by the Transportation Department. Those laws became the model for other employers. Some states give businesses a break on workers' compensation insurance if they are certified as drug-free.
Here at the main yard of Gaster Lumber and Hardware (http://www.gasterlumber.com/?version=meter+at+1&module=meter-Links&pgtype=article&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=meter-links-click), faded certificates and signs ("Drugs Don't Work Here") attest to its certification as a drug-free workplace since 1994.
Mr. Gaster's human resources director, Chuck Keller, said that status reduced workers' compensation payments for its nearly 50 employees by 7.5 percent in Georgia and 5 percent in South Carolina. The savings, about $4,000 this year, offset costs of about $2,500 for laboratory and on-site testing and related requirements.
"We're always short of drivers," Mr. Gaster said, "and drug testing is part of it."
Terry Donaldson, 53, who was tested when he started 20 years ago, supports the policy: "If they want to have a good job, the drugs got to go."
So it was for some of his new co-workers.
Britt Sikes, 38 and a single father to three young girls, lost his teeth to methamphetamine and used marijuana since he was 8 — until three weeks before taking the test for his $13-an-hour job as a Gaster door installer.
"I'm a recovering drug addict myself, and to raise my girls, I had to learn to leave it alone," Mr. Sikes said.
Kevin Canty, 55, said that in his experience, "most people can't pass the drug test because they don't want to pass a drug test."
"They want the job," he added, but "they still want to be in that lifestyle. And they have to choose."
One of the newest hires, Frederick Brown, 34, said, "I come from a society where drugs is common — marijuana, weed, it's common," and people who cannot pass a drug test seek work at McDonald's. Most restaurants do not test. "I asked for this job," Mr. Brown said, calling it a blessing. "I already knew what I had to do — you know what I'm saying?"
Austin Petersen (http://austinpetersen2016.com/) je kandidat Libertarijanske stranke na ovogodišnjim predsedničkim izborima u SAD. Neki tvrde i da je trolčina (https://olddominionlibertarian.wordpress.com/2016/03/27/internet-troll-runs-for-president-the-sad-strange-campaign-of-austin-petersen/). Pre par dana je na, pretpostavljam izbornom skupu izjavio da heroin ipak ne bi trebalo prodavati deci. Prisutni su glasno negodovali. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Prvo je bio dotkom mjehur (http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dotcom-bubble.asp). Sad imamo Jednoroge (http://fortune.com/unicorns/)...
Poučan incident o jednom takvom:
Forbes just cut its estimate of Theranos CEO Elizabeth Holmes's net worth from $4.5 billion to zero (http://qz.com/696835/forbes-just-cut-its-estimate-of-theranos-ceo-elizabeth-holmess-net-worth-from-4-5-billion-to-zero/)
QuoteNot long ago, Elizabeth Holmes was regarded as one of the US's most successful female entrepreneurs, with a net worth of $4.5 billion, Forbes estimated.
Today Forbes cut (http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2016/06/01/from-4-5-billion-to-nothing-forbes-revises-estimated-net-worth-of-theranos-founder-elizabeth-holmes/#4f09c7a92f29) that figure to zero.
Holmes's wealth is entirely wrapped up in her 50% stake in Theranos, the medical testing start-up she founded in 2003. The privately-held company in Palo Alto became a standout for its bold attempts to revolutionize the diagnostic industry—it claimed it could test for 240 diseases from a few drops of blood—and for A-listers like Henry Kissinger and Bill Frist on its advisory board.
Last year, Forbes pegged its value at $9 billion, based on the sale of stakes to investors. Since that lofty estimate, Theranos has been battered by bad news, starting with reports (http://www.wsj.com/articles/theranos-has-struggled-with-blood-tests-1444881901) in the Wall Street Journal in October that its tests were inaccurate. That triggered an inquiry from the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, which proposed banning Holmes from the industry.
Forbes went back to its slide rule and, after talking to venture capitalists and industry experts, recalculated Theranos' value at $900 million, based on its intellectual property and money it has already raised. "At such a low valuation, Holmes's stake is essentially worth nothing," Matt Herper writes.
That's because Theranos's other investors own preferred shares, and since Holmes owns common shares, they would get paid first if the company were forced to liquidate.
Theranos didn't provide a comment to Forbes and has yet to respond to an email from Quartz sent before the start of business hours in California today.
Update: Theranos sent an email with the following statement: "As a privately held company, we declined to share confidential financial information with Forbes. As a result, the article was based exclusively on speculation and press reports."
Startups can't explain what they do because they're addicted to meaningless jargon (http://qz.com/697558/internet-startups-cant-explain-what-they-do-because-theyre-addicted-to-meaningless-jargon/)
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Internet startup culture has evolved and matured over the past five years, and there's no better example of this than the RISE conference (https://riseconf.com/) happening this week in Hong Kong. Whereas Silicon Valley was once the sole hub of internet innovation, startups here hail from Bangalore, Singapore, and other cities. The macho bravado many associate with the culture has even dampened somewhat—34% of attendees are women.
As startup culture has gone global and transcended stereotypes, though, one of its defining traits has stuck around. Startup jargon is alive and well, and it seems to be getting worse.
"Content." "Platforms." "Synergy." "End-to-end." "Solutions." It's nearly impossible to find a startup at the conference that doesn't resort to jargon when describing itself.
These words sound technical and informed. But they mean nothing, and they make it difficult for ordinary people to understand what a company actually does. In an effort to either sound smart and attract investors, or to simply dress up an otherwise boring product, startups that rely too much on jargon end up alienating the users they want to attract.
Take Kalpesh Rathod. The 42-year-old Canadian made an app called Cubes. It's kind of cool. But he has trouble explaining what it does without resorting to buzzwords.
"We visually organize your email and cloud-based content for ultra fast access," says Kalpesh, reading from his promotional materials. "It's visual storytelling with any type of content."
What is my cloud-based content, exactly? It tells stories? I ask Kalpesh if he can explain this more clearly.
"We have a library that's just a feed of content. You can search content by type. I have five email accounts and my Dropbox account here. So if I'm looking for a PDF document, here's a stream of all of my PDF documents from these accounts using a visual interface."
Translation: Cubes is actually an app that pinpoints anything that's not plain-Jane text in your email or Dropbox accounts (a photograph, an excel file, a YouTube video), takes snapshots of those things, and then bundles them together in a standalone app. The idea is, if you receive a lot of photo attachments via email, for example, it will be easier to find them if they're kept separate from your cluttered inbox.
Rathod says he's prone to jargon in part because his product is simply hard to explain. Cubes is not quite an email inbox, not quite a Dropbox clone, and not quite a photo library. "It's always hard to get the right verbiage," he tells Quartz.
Michael Bergmann is another startup founder who can't ditch his addiction to jargon. The 35-year-old German describes his product, Indy Cloud, as a "know-how and synergy platform."
"A synergy platform means that many small businesses are on one platform and together they create value for them, because we can bundle their demand and they get better deals" he says.
Indy Cloud is really a web app (that's the "cloud" part) that's kind of a Microsoft Excel alternative, designed specifically for small businesses. The software forces users to follow a specific procedure for inputting category names and data, so that tweaking one spreadsheet leads to a corresponding tweak in another. Change Company A's address to 123 Main Street in one spreadsheet, and all other spreadsheets with Company A will update accordingly.
Bergmann isn't happy describing Indy Cloud as a Microsoft Excel alternative, however. In his view, Indy Cloud "has a database solution." It's also "reactive." Excel is neither of these things.
"I think the most accurate, concise, and jargon free way to describe Indy Cloud is maybe ERP," he says. "We are an enterprise resource planning solution."
Even companies making simpler products aren't immune. Undone, a Hong Kong startup that makes custom-designed watches, describes itself as a "disruptive consumer brand with state of the art customization technology with original content platform."
SparkShare, an Australian company that makes a video chat app, describes it as a "video reactions network."
"It's jargon, but it's the only way that we can start out when we explain ourselves," says co-founder Chris Parker. "We could turn the jargon on [even more] and say that we're a 'cloud-based streaming content delivery network,' but we find that it doesn't resonate with people."
Startups resort to jargon in order to sound more interesting than they actually are, Casey Lau, a startup event organizer in Hong Kong, said.
"The word 'cloud' sounds very expansive and grand," he says. "But if you just said 'We're on the internet,' which is what 'cloud' usually means, then it doesn't sound as exciting."
Kako umetnost ponekad najavljuje stvarnost, Silicon Valley je ovo parodirao još u prvoj sezoni:
http://youtu.be/J-GVd_HLlps (http://youtu.be/J-GVd_HLlps)
Džon Oliver je heroj koga Amerika ne zaslužuje ali možda heroj koji je Americi potreban. U sklopu svojih stalnih čačkanja po stvarima koje u Americi nisu na mestu (bar iz perspektive Evropljanina koji tamo pečalbari), došao je i do firmi koje otkupljuju dugove za siću a onda maltertiraju nejač da te dugove vrati u fulu i sa kamatom. Ajde što je o tome snimio prilog kako to već on radi, nego što je ON osnovao firmu za otkup dugova, otkupio za svega šezdeset hiljada dolara dugove 9000 ljudi u vrednosti od skoro petnaest milijuna dolara i onda svima oprostio dugove. Whoa. :shock: Moja pretplata na HBO je zapravo doprinela nečem dobrom? Ko bi to očekivao???
Gardijanov prilog o tome:
John Oliver buys and forgives $15m worth of medical debt (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/06/john-oliver-medical-debt-forgiveness-last-week-tonight)
A evo i segmenta iz emisije:
http://youtu.be/hxUAntt1z2c (http://youtu.be/hxUAntt1z2c)
Што би му било ко поклонио 15 милиона? Вјероватно је 90% ненаплативо. То неки медикл бусплус...
Зато ће Трамп то поправити!
In Trump I trust!
i jedva ga čekam na predsedničkoj poziciji sad kad je Berni desetkovan.
Court: No right to carry concealed weapons in public (https://www.yahoo.com/news/court-no-carry-concealed-weapons-public-175139817.html)
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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Dealing a blow to gun supporters, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday that Americans do not have a constitutional right to carry concealed weapons in public.
In a dispute that could ultimately wind up before the Supreme Court, a divided 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said local law enforcement officials can place significant restrictions on who is allowed to carry concealed guns.
By a vote of 7-4, the court upheld a California law that says applicants must cite a "good cause" to obtain a concealed-carry permit. Typically, people who are being stalked or threatened, celebrities who fear for their safety, and those who routinely carry large amounts of cash or other valuables are granted permits.
"We hold that the Second Amendment does not preserve or protect a right of a member of the general public to carry concealed firearms in public," Circuit Judge William A. Fletcher wrote for the majority.
The ruling overturned a 2014 decision by a three-judge panel of the same court that said applicants need only express a desire for personal safety.
In a dissent, Circuit Judge Consuelo M. Callahan said the ruling "obliterates the Second Amendment's right to bear a firearm in some manner in public for self-defense."
Three other federal appeals courts have ruled similarly in the past, upholding California-like restrictions in New York, Maryland and New Jersey. In addition, another federal appeals court struck down Illinois' complete ban on carrying concealed weapons.
The 9th Circuit covers nine Western states, but California and Hawaii are the only ones in which the ruling will have any practical effect. The others do not require permit applicants to cite a "good cause." Anyone in those states with a clean record and no history of mental illness can get a permit.
The National Rifle Association called the ruling "out of touch."
"This decision will leave good people defenseless, as it completely ignores the fact that law-abiding Californians who reside in counties with hostile sheriffs will now have no means to carry a firearm outside the home for personal protection," said NRA legislative chief Chris W. Cox.
Gun control advocates and others hailed the ruling.
"This is a significant victory for public safety and for local jurisdictions that apply sensible policies to protect the public," said California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat.
The California case began in 2009, when Edward Peruta filed a legal challenge over the San Diego County sheriff's refusal to issue him a permit. Peruta said at the time he wanted a weapon to protect himself, but the sheriff said he needed a better reason, such as that his occupation exposes him to robbery.
Peruta, who is a videographer known for legally challenging local government restrictions, said he is neither a hunter, collector or target shooter but challenged the law because he believed it violated the Constitution. The NRA joined him in fighting the law.
The San Diego Sheriff's Department said Thursday that since the 9th Circuit tossed out the law two years ago, it has received 2,463 applications from people seeking a concealed-weapon permit without having to show good cause.
Sheriff's lawyer Robert Faigan said the department hasn't processed those applications and will continue to hold on to them while it waits to see what the Supreme Court does.
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This story has been corrected to show that at least three federal appeals courts — not two — have ruled similarly.
ono kad mi je potrebno opuštanje ili zašto amerika nikad neće propasti (bar dok ne umre chomsky)
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Ovo je Omar Mateen (29), počinitelj najvećeg masakra u povijesti Amerike (http://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/svijet/ovo-je-omar-mateen-29-pocinitelj-najveceg-masakra-u-povijesti-amerike/4427967/)
QuoteMasakr kakav Amerika ne pamti dogodio se u noći na nedjelju u jednom od najvećih noćnih gay klubova u Orlandu. Počinio ga je Omar Mateen (29), američki državljanin afganistanskog porijekla za kojega FBI sumnja da je možda bio povezan s islamskim ekstremistima.
Njegovi su roditelji rođeni u Afganistanu, a on sam je, kako piše ABC News, neko vrijeme bio pod prismotrom američkih službi iako nikada nije bio pod formalnom istragom.
CBS javlja da je na jednom od popisa sumnjivaca bio proteklih pet godina.
Njegov otac tvrdi da religija nije imala nikakve veze s masakrom, tvrdi da je povod svemu bijes koji je Mateena prije nekoliko mjeseci obuzeo kada je u Miamiju vidio dvojicu muškaraca kako se strastveno ljube nasred ulice.
Prema pisanju Reutersa, među prvima je njegova fotografija osvanula na jednom od profila povezanih s Islamskom državom, no sam ISIS, protiv kojega Amerika vodi rat na području Iraka i Sirije, a koji neprekidno poziva na napad na američke ciljeve, nije službeno preuzeo odgovornost za napad.
U međuvremenu NBC News je, pozivajući se na više izvora u sigurnosnom aparatu, izvijestio da je Mateen neposredno prije početka pucnjave nazvao hitni broj 911 te je izrekao svoju odanost Islamskoj državi. Pritom je navodno spominjao i bombaše iz Bostona, braću Tsarnaev.
Američka policija napad u Orlandu vodi kao teroristički čin.
Kao što smo već izvijestili, policijski časnik koji je radio kao zaštitar u noćnom klubu Pulse razmijenio je vatru s napadačem oko 2 sata ujutro.
Ubrzo se razvila talačka kriza i tri sata kasnije interventna policija je upala u klub i ubila napadača. Prema posljednjim podacima, život je izgubilo najmanje 50 ljudi, a ozlijeđeno ih je više od 50.
Quote from: zosko on 13-06-2016, 06:31:31
Njegov otac tvrdi da religija nije imala nikakve veze s masakrom, tvrdi da je povod svemu bijes koji je Mateena prije nekoliko mjeseci obuzeo kada je u Miamiju vidio dvojicu muškaraca kako se strastveno ljube nasred ulice.
A Njujork post tvrdi da je njegov otac ludak koji podržava Talibane (http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/nightclub-shooters-dad-hosted-anti-american-talk-show/).
bog te mazo, bila sam tamo :shock:
Где си била? Међу талибанима? :lol:
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 13-06-2016, 08:59:45
A Njujork post tvrdi da je njegov otac ludak koji podržava Talibane (http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/nightclub-shooters-dad-hosted-anti-american-talk-show/).
svi prodaju rekla-kazala glasine razne, senzacija, kako god, fakat nije bas iz sto bi rekli iz normalne roditeljske kuce. mislim, po nekim civilizacijskim standardima.
Quote from: lilit on 13-06-2016, 09:01:01
bog te mazo, bila sam tamo :shock:
isuse kriste, sveta marijo, bar da sam stavio u lilit reagiraj.
Apropo ubistava u gej klubu. Nije mi jasno, kako jedan čovek može da pobije 50 ljudi i da rani još 50 a da ne upotrebi eksploziv. Kako to da se žrtve ne brane, kako nije njih desetoro nagrnulo na ubicu, da ga obore, uzmu mu oružije, pa makar se neko žrtvovao za ostale? Meni je ovo čisti krimi zaplet na granici SF-a. Nisam teoretičar zavere, ovo mi je neverovatno iz čisto ljudskog aspekta. Ali i logističkog, metodološkog, jer nije ovaj išao ulicom i ubijao nasumice, nego se sve dešavalo u zatvorenom prostoru, gde su ljudi mogli da se sakriju i prepadnu ubicu, da ga sačekaju iza negog ugla i razbiju mu glavu ... Ili su ljudi postali baš takve ovce.
PS
Tramp je u pravu, da je recimo bar neko od žrtava imao oružije, ne bi ubica postigao baš ovoliki skor.
Da više ljudi ima oružje onda bi se oružje češće potezalo.
Па и Сандерс подржава керинг да вепн
Само у САД сваки билде може купити базуку преко нета, па би се то могло мало ограничити
We're a happy family, me, mom and daddy...
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/13/orlando-gunmans-father-condemns-atrocity-but-says-punishment-for-gay-people-is-up-to-god (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/13/orlando-gunmans-father-condemns-atrocity-but-says-punishment-for-gay-people-is-up-to-god)
Quote from: Mark on 13-06-2016, 18:12:22
Apropo ubistava u gej klubu. Nije mi jasno, kako jedan čovek može da pobije 50 ljudi i da rani još 50 a da ne upotrebi eksploziv. Kako to da se žrtve ne brane, kako nije njih desetoro nagrnulo na ubicu, da ga obore, uzmu mu oružije, pa makar se neko žrtvovao za ostale? Meni je ovo čisti krimi zaplet na granici SF-a. Nisam teoretičar zavere, ovo mi je neverovatno iz čisto ljudskog aspekta. Ali i logističkog, metodološkog, jer nije ovaj išao ulicom i ubijao nasumice, nego se sve dešavalo u zatvorenom prostoru, gde su ljudi mogli da se sakriju i prepadnu ubicu, da ga sačekaju iza negog ugla i razbiju mu glavu ... Ili su ljudi postali baš takve ovce.
PS
Tramp je u pravu, da je recimo bar neko od žrtava imao oružije, ne bi ubica postigao baš ovoliki skor.
meni se ne čini da je teško. prostor je ogroman, muzika (pre)glasna, relativno mračno, alkohola previše, ogromna koncentracija ljudi na malom prostoru, ne čuješ ni osobu koja stoji pored tebe, etc.
pretpostavljam da u tom prvom momentu kad je moron zapucao, niko nije ni bio svestan šta se dešava. a onda su verovatno pokušali da se sklone, po principu: neće mene.
i tako dođemo do cifre od 50.
Quote from: Mark on 13-06-2016, 18:12:22
Apropo ubistava u gej klubu. Nije mi jasno, kako jedan čovek može da pobije 50 ljudi i da rani još 50 a da ne upotrebi eksploziv. Kako to da se žrtve ne brane, kako nije njih desetoro nagrnulo na ubicu, da ga obore, uzmu mu oružije, pa makar se neko žrtvovao za ostale? Meni je ovo čisti krimi zaplet na granici SF-a. Nisam teoretičar zavere, ovo mi je neverovatno iz čisto ljudskog aspekta. Ali i logističkog, metodološkog, jer nije ovaj išao ulicom i ubijao nasumice, nego se sve dešavalo u zatvorenom prostoru, gde su ljudi mogli da se sakriju i prepadnu ubicu, da ga sačekaju iza negog ugla i razbiju mu glavu ... Ili su ljudi postali baš takve ovce.
PS
Tramp je u pravu, da je recimo bar neko od žrtava imao oružije, ne bi ubica postigao baš ovoliki skor.
Zato sto niko nije ocekivao tako nesto. To je LGBT club, ljudi su tamo da bi igrali, proveli se, minding their own bussiness. Mnogi intervjuisani kazu da su na pocetku mislili da je taj zvuk pucnjave deo muzike. Ljudi jednostavno nisu ukapirali sta se desava dok nisu krenuli da padaju pogodjeni mecima.
Tramp nije u pravu nikako. Ne postoji ni jedan normalan razlog da bilo ko osim policie i vojske moze da kupi rafalno oruzje. To je jednostavno van pameti bilo kome prodati. Za samoodbranu je dovoljno imati obican pistolj ako je nekome neophodno.
To da je odgovor na masovna ubistva vise oruzja je cista NRA/republikanska propaganda.
logican i razuman rezon je kontrola oruzja, ko moze da kupi, sta i koliko a ne naoruzavanje jos vise ljudi kako bi se broj zrtava vatrenog oruzja smanjio.
Neko me pitao juče il' prekjuče (ne znam više ni koji je dan) za ovaj nemili incident na Floridi gde je jaran upuco 50 ljudi? Šta sam odgovorio na prvu loptu? Peder upuco pedere, jel' tako? A vamo ide propaganda kao teroista ovo, ono. A zapravo ključ leži baš u tome da je bio prikriveni gej, jer da je drugačije napao bi običan klub a ne ovaj malo drugojačiji. Dakle iz keca u kec, šteta što nisam uplatio koji dinar na gejliju. :)
http://www.telegraf.rs/vesti/2194561-bivsa-zena-ubice-iz-orlanda-otkrila-moj-muz-omar-je-bio-gej-ali-to-nije-smeo-da-prizna-foto (http://www.telegraf.rs/vesti/2194561-bivsa-zena-ubice-iz-orlanda-otkrila-moj-muz-omar-je-bio-gej-ali-to-nije-smeo-da-prizna-foto)
Уцвељени педер побио неуцвељене педере.
И док се педери убивају из љубави и тако тамане међусобно, ми уживамо испред драгстора и пијемо пивџане.
xcheers
Da, kao Dragan Maksimović..
Dragan Maksimović je posle tog incidenta izjavio da je on sam pijan isprovocirao tu ekipu koja se skupljala na Zelenjaku. Oni su pevali Radove pesme, a on mi je bahato dobacio da umuknu, i prebili su ga. A jbga sad, svaka tuča je potencijalno ubistvo, sranja se stalno dešavaju. Dešava se i običnim ljudima da udare nekog nezgodno i da ga ubiju. Puni su zatvori takvih - ja svedok. Samo što je u slučaju Maksimovića to u medijima dignuto na viši nivo radi skandaloznosti, pa su plasirali priču da su ga napali jer im je ličio na Roma. Naravno, Maksimović je sve to demantovo, al' niko nije hteo da objavi, možda je izašlo u samo jednim novinama il' tako nešto. U prilog tome ide i činjenica da je Maksimović izričito zahtevao da ih policija ne goni, tako da za to ubistvo niko nije odgovarao. Takva je ljudina bio Maksimović, a ne ko ove drukare što za šamar odma zovu pubove. Alal mu vera i večna slava!
Pa sad, kad jednog čoveka gazi njih nekoliko, onda je potencijalnije ubistvo. Poruku su mogli da mu pošalju jednim šamarom, mada je i to ekstremna reakcija za to što ti je neko rekao da umukneš, makar i bahato.
Oh...
Dana Giacchetto: Stockbroker To Stars Found Dead (https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/news/dicaprios-real-wolf-wall-street-found-dead-154304777.html)
QuoteA former stockbroker to the stars, said to have given inspiration to Leonardo DiCaprio for his performance in The Wolf of Wall Street, has been found dead at 53.
Dana Giacchetto, who became famous in the 1990s for providing financial services to a string of celebrities, was discovered face up in his bed on Sunday, foaming at the mouth, according to the New York Daily News.
He was regularly photographed with the likes of DiCaprio, Cameron Diaz, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon at the height of his success.
But, after he was investigated for stealing millions from others in order to prop up the portfolios of some of his famous friends, he was taken to court.
He received a four-and-a-half-year jail sentence in 2001 after pleading guilty to fraud involving $9m (£5.7m) of his clients' money.
In 2014, he was charged again with fraud for using someone else's credit card to buy alcohol, a plane ticket and food, according to court filings.
The Daily News reported that he died after a weekend of partying, during which witnesses said he got into a scuffle with nightclub security guards.
His body was found at home in his Upper West Side apartment in New York City.
The New York Post claimed in late 1999 that Mr Giacchetto was the reason why Winona Ryder split up with Matt Damon after he encouraged her to invest more than $1m with him, some time before he was indicted.
He is understood to have met his celebrity contacts after becoming an investment guru to indie music label Sub Pop records, which had Nirvana and many cult bands in its stable.
According to Vice News, which interviewed him in 2014, Mr Giacchetto kept a suitcase of photos of his time partying with DiCaprio and was still attempting to develop new businesses, such as a luxury food range that allowed people to eat lobster from a can.
He told Vice's reporter that DiCaprio used to stay at his home for months and the pair used to have matching cockatoos.
Years later, Mr Giacchetto reportedly gave DiCaprio inspiration for his role of disgraced stockbroker Jordan Belfort in 2013 film The Wolf Of Wall Street.
Photos posted on Vice's website provided by the ex-con also showed him partying with Naomi Campbell, Tobey Maguire and Q-Tip.
He told the news organisation his apartment was also regularly visited by Robert Downey Jr, Michael Stipe, Smashing Pumpkins, Alanis Morissette, Kate Moss and Janet Jackson before he was arrested.
Describing his time with the stars, Mr Giacchetto said: "It's a really sexy feeling, thinking ... today I can do anything I want. I can go wherever I want and everything's going to be okay and no-one's going to say 'no'."
What We Know About Man Minnesota Police Killed in Traffic Stop (http://abcnews.go.com/US/man-minnesota-police-killed-traffic-stop/story?id=40402805)
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More details have emerged about the man who was fatally shot by a Minnesota police officer during a traffic stop Wednesday night as he sat in a car with a woman and child.
The victim has been identified by family as Philando Castile. He was employed as a nutrition services assistant from November 2002 until being promoted to a nutrition services supervisor at J.J. Hill Montessori Magnet School Aug. 11, 2014, according to the St. Paul Public Schools.
Castile also worked at Arlington High School and Chelsea Heights Elementary School during his employment with the district, the school system said.
The incident in Falcon Heights, a suburb of St. Paul, appeared to be partly documented in a Facebook Live recording posted by the woman in the car, who identified herself as the man's girlfriend and said her daughter was also in the vehicle.
Police have identified the woman recording the altercation as Diamond Reynolds. In the video, Castile's shirt appears to be soaked in blood. At least one uniformed officer is seen pointing a gun through the driver's side window at Castile and can be heard saying, "I told him not to reach for it. I told him to get his hand out."
Speaking to a crowd in front of Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton's residence in St. Paul Wednesday morning, Reynolds said the officer began to shoot after she yelled that Castile was "licensed to carry."
The St. Anthony Police Department said an officer making a traffic stop at 9 p.m. Wednesday. "During the stop, shots were fired," the statement said. "One adult male was taken to the hospital. We have been informed that this individual is deceased."
The department said that no one else was injured and a handgun was recovered from the scene.
The video, posted Wednesday night, appears to show an incident similar to the one police described. It shows Reynolds sitting in a car with Castile, whose shirt appears soaked in blood, saying an officer shot her boyfriend.
"Please, officer, don't tell me that you just did this to him," she says in the video. "You shot four bullets into him, sir. He was just getting his license and registration, sir."
Reynolds can be heard saying on video that the officer "asked him for license and registration. He told him that it was in his wallet but he had a pistol on him because he's licensed to carry. The officer said, 'Don't move.' As he was putting his hands back up, the officer shot him in the arm four or five times."
In an interview with CNN this morning, the man's mother, Valerie Castile, said that he's "been working since he was 15 years old.
"He's been paying taxes since he was 18 years old," she said. "He's been consistently employed all those years. I just don't understand it ... I'm outraged about the whole situation because he is a really good person. He's laid back. Everybody likes him. He's no thug. He don't run the street. He don't go to bars. He just does none of that."
Nekima Levy-Pounds, the president of the NAACP Minneapolis chapter, confirmed Castile's identity in a tweet early today.
In the CNN interview this morning, Valerie Castile said her son had a concealed weapon (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/issues/concealed-carry.htm) permit for Minnesota.
Just hours before he was shot, Valerie Castile said, he was at her house talking with his sister, who also has a permit, about how concealed-carry permit holders must be cautious, especially African-Americans.
"My daughter said, 'You know what? I really don't even want to carry my gun because I'm afraid that they'll shoot me first and then ask questions later,'" Valerie Castile told CNN.
She said she believes her son told the police officer he was licensed to carry a gun.
"I'm sure he did, because that was something we always discussed. Comply," she told CNN this morning. "That's the key thing in order to survive being stopped by the police is to comply. Whatever they ask you to do, do it. Don't say nothing. Just do whatever they want you to do. So what's the difference in complying and you get killed anyway?"
Two police officers shot at protest in Dallas: local TV (https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-police-officers-shot-protest-dallas-local-tv-022107335.html)
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(Reuters) - Two police officers were shot in Texas on Thursday during a protest against police shootings in Minnesota and Louisiana, KDFW TV in Dallas reported.
The condition of the officers was not known, the station said.
Broadcaster KABC reported that shots were fired during demonstrations at Belo Garden Park in Dallas. Footage showed a heavy police presence with officers taking cover behind vehicles on the street.
Photos posted on Twitter by the Dallas Police Department showed what appeared to be several hundred people assembled on the steps of a downtown museum, many holding signs as they listened to speakers address the crowd.
In other photos and footage posted on Twitter, a crowd could be seen marching through downtown streets. Police said the crowd, at one point, chanted "Black Lives Matter."
The protests in Dallas came as demonstrations were being held in several U.S. cities over the most recent fatal police shootings of black men in Minnesota and Louisiana.
The police department did not respond to requests for comment and did not update their Twitter account since media reports of gunfire.
Four officers fatally shot during police protest in downtown Dallas (https://www.yahoo.com/news/three-officer-fatally-shot-during-000000452.html)
DALLAS — Four officers have been killed and at least seven more injured in a hail of gunfire during a demonstration organized to protest this week's police-involved shootings in Minnesota and Louisiana, Dallas police confirm.
Police Chief David Brown said two snipers ambushed law enforcement from an elevated position, striking 10 officers and a civilian from an elevated position. The chief said they are also investigating information that the suspects may have planted a bomb in the downtown area.
"They planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could," Brown said at a news conference.
Two people were reportedly in custody shortly before midnight local time. Police have not confirmed if they are the shooters. One of the men turned himself in shortly after police published his photo on social media.
This is one of our suspects. Please help us find him!
pic.twitter.com/Na5T8ZxSz6 (https://t.co/Na5T8ZxSz6)
— Dallas Police Depart (@DallasPD) July 8, 2016 (https://twitter.com/DallasPD/status/751262719584575488)
Friends and family told reporters that the man in the photos is Mark Hughes. Despite carrying an assault-style rifle during the march (which is legal in Texas), the man's relatives were adamant that he was not involved in the shooting.
Bystanders reported hearing dozens of shots fired near City Hall about 9 p.m. local time. The gunfire terrified hundreds of demonstrators, sending them running for cover.
Video from a protestor as the shooting began. Jesus. Disturbing content.
#Dallas (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dallas?src=hash) #DallasPoliceShooting (https://twitter.com/hashtag/DallasPoliceShooting?src=hash) pic.twitter.com/yhPTI9KC2g (https://t.co/yhPTI9KC2g)
— Andy Cole (@AndyCole84) July 8, 2016 (https://twitter.com/AndyCole84/status/751245901977440257)
Some witnesses said the shooter or shooters ambushed officers from a multi-story parking garage.
"The cops had no idea who was shooting at them," Jamal Johnson told KTVT-TV in Dallas. "Everyone knew it wasn't a firework — it was an actual shot."
Downtown residents described the chaos on social media.
"I THINK A SHOOTOUT IS HAPPENING DOWNSTAIRS OH MY GOD," a Twitter user named Allison posted moments before capturing rapid gunfire on video.
I am so scared. pic.twitter.com/jw88QnKGXG (https://t.co/jw88QnKGXG)
— Allison (@allisongriz) July 8, 2016 (https://twitter.com/allisongriz/status/751234755882995713)
"Holy shit, holy shit," Michael Bautista exclaimed as he live-streamed video of the rapid gunfire to his Facebook page.
The causality count as of 11:30 p.m. local time:
3 — Dallas police officers deceased
1 — Dallas Area Rapid Transit officer deceased
8 — officers wounded
1 — civilian wounded
This is likely to be the deadliest day in Dallas Police Department history, a law enforcement source tells Yahoo News.
Police were requesting that all citizens clear downtown streets as the manhunt continued.
(This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.)
Vladimir Putin wrote and perfected Donald Trump's political playbook 15 years ago
A new deal between America and Russia is precisely what the two men may be looking for. According to Franklin Foer, writing in Slate, Trump has been trying to do business in Russia for years, makes little distinction between his business and political interests, and has been surrounded with advisors who have links to the Kremlin.
In Putin's mind, however, such a deal would involve not building Trump hotels, but a new Yalta agreement, of the kind that was struck between the Allied powers after the Second World War. It would demarcate the spheres of influence within Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union; in other words, which countries Russia could dominate without Western interference, and vice versa. Trump may ask Putin to keep away from the NATO states, such as the Baltic countries, but would not care much about the future of Ukraine, Georgia or any other former Soviet republic to which Russia lays a claim. (The fact that Trump is advised by Paul Manafort, who also ran the presidential campaign for Viktor Yanukovych, a disgraced, corrupt Ukrainiain president overthrown by the Kiev revolution, makes Ukraine particularly vulnerable.)
But as the 20th-century history of the Soviet Union and Germany showed, a pact between two populist and nationalist leaders hardly makes the world a safer place. If Trump becomes president, the last thing the world needs, dark humor aside, is for he and Putin to be locked in any kind of embrace.
http://qz.com/725392/vladimir-putin-wrote-donald-trumps-political-playbook-15-years-ago/
šta je ovdje loše, maestralan plan!
Plan je dobar ako je Rusija jaka. Plan je nepovoljan za Ameriku ako je Rusija slaba. Kako se može utvrditi da li je Rusija jaka ili slaba? Tako što probaš nešto pa vidiš posledice. Ako postoji dogovor, onda Amerika ne može više ništa da proba. Ta ograničenost delovanja je povoljna za Rusiju, koja i inače nije naklonjena forsiranoj ekspanziji van onoga što smatra svojim, što je bio slučaj čak i u vreme hladnog rata.
Politics trumps economy.
Nastavlja se: http://www.blic.rs/vesti/svet/haos-hara-amerikom-novi-incident-u-tenesiju-bivsi-vojnik-nasumice-pucao-na-ljude/50mr8m
Pa i bilo je za očekivati da tolika količina oružja, i naoružanih građana, jednom pukne i unutra, a ne samo spolja po Iraku, Libiji, Afganistanu...po nama...
Black lives matter...
bahati policajci sa granicnim IQ-om prvo pucaju pa postavljaju pitanja. ako, eto im ga sad.
До пре сто година нису смели да писну а сад имају снајпере и шире чамугански расизам.
АмериКККа мора да реагује на овакав расистичко-терористички чин уперен против белих људи!!!
Ако су амерички јапанци, као потенцијална пета колона, за време другог светског рата у били смештени у логоре, шта онда урадити са овима???
Кад неко каже:
"ŽELIM DA UBIJAM POLICAJCE POSEBNO BELCE: Ovim rečima je ratni veteran, naoružan snajperom počeo masakr!"
онда треба што пре искористити оне ФЕМА сандуке који спремно чекају годинама.
The Racist Killing Machine in the Age of Anti-Politics (http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/07/08/the-racist-killing-machine-in-the-age-of-anti-politics/)
Пољем се шири мирис памука и слично, ако бели желе мир у АмериКККи, требало би да депортују све чамуге у Африку, баш онако како је и било започето, или да поставе ствари на своје место, јер мулти култи друштво са мајмунима није могуће.
ФЕМА сандуци:
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbeforeitsnews.com%2Fmediadrop%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F38%2F227fec2f8bbb6b3edf35e298f3246de94798c087.jpg&hash=db64a7b5af5a5e0154531c5ea0ded00de44527a7)
Izjave koje daješ su zaista odvratne, pogotovo u trenucima kada se ljudi unaokolo ubijaju. Dvojica afroameričkih muškaraca su ubijena od strane policije bez povoda i tebe nije stid da kačiš ove gadosti ovde? Stvarno?
Које гадости сам рекао?
Који афроамериканци?
Зашто белим јужнимафриканцима није дозвољено да се називају афро-американцима?
Значи комуњаро, убијено је гомила полицајаца, што снајпером, што са мотора у покрету, убице су чамугански расисти који како сами кажу воле да убијају белце, а ти се обраћаш мени?
Осуди бре љиго црни расизам који стоји иза убиства белаца и овако реагуј кад Бата крене у своје акције.
Koje gadosti? Nazivaš ljude majmunima i kačiš slike sanduka. To su gadosti, svakako.
Које људе?
Ти си бре стварно љига, називаш мајмуне људима.
Страшно.
Јел сам ја измислио те сандуке, или су ти сандуци део ФЕМА пројекта?
Чему служе, то је било питање које се постављало од 2007 године па све до данас.
Мој одговор чему сандуци могу да послуже је нормалан одговор, не треба телеса да стоје напољу по овој врућини.
Где има мртвих, ту има и сандука, или би требало мртве чамуге да балсумирамо и да их држимо ко Лењина, Стаљина и остале мумије?
Quote from: Dybuk on 09-07-2016, 14:29:16
Black lives matter...
bahati policajci sa granicnim IQ-om prvo pucaju pa postavljaju pitanja. ako, eto im ga sad.
Је ли Механе, зашто ниси осудио овај део који је написала Хорор Оро:
ako, eto im ga sad.?
Тај део не представља ништа друго него подршку чамуганским раситима у убијању белих људи.
Жалосно је што та подршка чамуганским расистима у убијању белих људи долази из уста једне беле жене, али код нас белих је вазда било одпада, белих циганки и нерасног шљама.
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Focdn.eu%2Fimages%2Fpulscms%2FNmY7MDMsMzE0LDAsMCwxOzAzLDFkNiwwLDAsMQ__%2Fd5b7f7db2d1471f6b637cb5fd37c2c8c.jpg&hash=ec82866d2dab3ffb48224934aa93d4a16551fbc8)
"Партизанска психијатрија" - у главним улогама Бата, Мехо и Хорор Оро.
Zaista, ko bi rekao da će neko ko je vegetarijanac da zastupa ovakve nehumane stavove. Ali dobro, od ljudi više ništa ne može da me iznenadi...
Чекај Трумане, шта треба да заступам?
Да делим ставове Хорор Оро по којима "ево вам га сад, нек вас убијају" и да славим црне дивљаке који пуцају снајперима на беле људе?
Тај сценарио сам већ видео у Јужној Африци када је пао апартхејд који је један од најбољих друштвених уређења икада.
Дижем глас кад год црна фукара убије белог човека, као што дижем глас кад год шиптарска или друга стока убије неког Србина.
Nepopravljiv slučaj. Ne bi ti pomoglo ni veganstvo. :) xyxy
Штета што си слеп код очију и што ти је аутошовинизам јако изражен. xyxy
Реци ми, да ли и ти, попут Хорор Оро, подржаваш убијање белих људи од стране чамуга?
Ta je situacija mnogo, mnogo komplikovanija od svrstavanja na bilo ciju stranu. Svi su podjednako krivi. To je taj veciti usud coveka - da bude svesno bice, a da tu svest ne ume da upotrebi, osim u sebicne svrhe.
To je zacarani krug. Robovlasnistvo je jos uvek u kolektivnoj svesti. Neoprost, mrznja i osecanje ugrozenosti zbog toga, takodje. Segregacija u drustvu je velika, diskriminacije ima,realno. Belci se osecaju ugrozno zbog aframer.kriminala, a afroamerikanci se osecaju ugrozenim diskriminacijom i siromastvom. A ljudi, umesto da ucine napor da razumeju je dni druge, osudjuju i ubijaju jedni druge. I uopste nije pitanje ko koga podrzava, vec zasto se besmisleno nasilje desava, i kako ga izleciti, a ne spreciti. :)
Nikako ne mogu biti svi podjednako krivi.
Nije crnac došao u Ameriku zato što je hteo, nego zato što ga je belac oteo iz Afrike kako bi mu ovaj bio rob.
@HQ
Твој пост је пример несврставања.
На том примеру би многи и многе требало да уче.
@Томат
То не значи да сад, након што је робовласништво поодавно укинуто, требамо да симпатишемо расистичко-терористичке ликвидације које спроводе теористичко-расистичке црначке групе.
Или би требало на црначки расизам да се жмури, и да се и даље осуђује робовласништво које је поодавно укинуто?
Eh, tomate, ja ljude gledam kroz ime, prezime i identitet. Dzon Vajt, koji zivi danas, i to mzda eticki ok zivotom i zao mu je zbog opake diskriminacije i maltretiranja afroamerikanaca, ne moze biti kriv tudje zlocine iz proslosti samo zato sto je potmak. Isto tako, neki Rmbert Blek nije kriminalac samo zato sto je taman ili sto je nezadovoljan diskriminacijom.
Ali jednako ne osudjujes rasizam, zar ne?
Ja naravno nisam za ubijanje, ali kako nazvati akcije bele policije u kojima svako malo strada crnac, najčešće bez povoda.
I nije ukidanje robovlasništva rešilo sve probleme. Belci su sistemski obespravljivali crnce i u Americi i u Africi, i pre i nakon ukidanja robovlasništva.
Томат, то није белачка милиција, ккк, у тој мурији су запослени и црнци.
И сад је то разлог да симпатишемо расистичко-терористичке црначке групе које изводе расистичке ликвидације белаца?
Boze, Dy, povredjena sujeta te je potpuno poremetila, kao i svaku skorpiju, i sad ides nasumicnno i bodes tj. spamujes redom najvise steteci sebi. Pa moj post je ultimativni protest protiv rasizma. Naravno da ga osudjujem i radim sve sto je do mene da nestane. U rl. Ne na forumu o fantastici.
A ne, ne spinovanje, seljacka psihologija i izgovori. 1 od dva odgovora se trazi
*nisam rasista (protiv sam policijske brutalnosti i rasnog profilisanja)
*jesam rasista (slazem se sa T2 i izbegavam jasan odgovor)
sve drugo se ima smatrati invalidnim.
znaci, JESI rasista. good to know. ti i drugar ipak imate vise zajednickog nego sto sam mislila.
btw, onaj link sto sam postavila je odlicna analiza stanja stvari koju treba procitati...dobro, vas dvoje ne morate, T2 ionako cita samo Informer.
Pa ja rekoh da sam protiv ubijanja ljudi, i ne vidim gde vidiš moje simpatije. Ali koliko puta se desilo da crni (ili beli) policajac ubije nenaoružanog belca bez jasnog povoda? A koliko puta se desilo da beli policajac potegne oružje na crnca? To je sve posledica vekovnog rasizma i mržnje prema crncima koja proizilazi iz iracionalnog straha. Po difoltu, belac je dobar, a crnac loš, zato boljr da ja preventivno opalim koji metak.
Ima ona scena iz serije Fresh Prince of Bel Air u kojoj Jazz stoji u sudnici sa podignutim rukama dok je pore njega policajac. Sudija mu kaže da slobodno spusti ruke, a ovaj mu kaže pa da završim sa šest pucnjeva upozorenja u leđima.
Zao mi je, Dy, probala sam, ali zaista ne bih gubila vreme. A i tvoje ponasanje me podseca na ponasanje besnog deteta. :) Neces dobiti cokoladu jer nisi prvo pojela grasak! :lol: baj baj svima.
Quote from: Dybuk on 10-07-2016, 23:46:02
seljacka psihologija i izgovori.
Quote from: Dybuk on 10-07-2016, 22:13:09manipulantkinje one seljacke vrste
Хорор Оро, вређаш Д. на свакој теми...
Сељачко ово, сељачко оно...
Види се да имаш тешке комплексе од Д.
Teski kompleksi :cry:
rekoh ti vec: don't quit your day job. svi znamo da nisi najbistriji primerak ovde, al zato uporno verglas.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 11-07-2016, 10:10:35
Dybuk je napisala "ako, eto im ga sad" nakon što je pomenuto da policajci "prvo pucaju pa postavljaju pitanja". Naravno da ni ja ne podržavam ubijanje - ikoga - ali naravno i da je reagovanje na tako nešto rasističkim emanacijama i izjavama kako belci moraju da zbiju redove pred crnim rasistima gori lek od bolesti.
Претерао јесам, и то са предумишљајем, јер ако већ кажеш
Naravno da ni ja ne podržavam ubijanje - ikoga , онда требаш да опоменеш Дајбук да није у реду да фура
"ako, eto im ga sad" подршку расистичко-терористичким групацијама црнаца које ликвидирају недужне белце само зато што су белци.
И није ту реч о мом расизму - против сам сваке полицијске бруталности и убијања недужних људи (овај пандур би због убиства законски морао да изгуби право на живот), али кад се након тога даје подршка црним расистима да ликвидирају недужне белце, шта је следећа ствар?
Овамо причате да је крвна освета метод заостао из атавизма, а са друге стране се подржава расна освета над недужним белим људима???
И онда сам ја расиста кад прекинем то ћутање?
Quote from: Harley Quinn on 11-07-2016, 09:57:19
Postujem da mu se ne svidja kada Dy kaze da "belim policajcima tako i treba" (to se ne svidja ni meni, jer tako razmisljaju oni kojima je drago kada je neki afroamerikanac ubijen bez razloga, issed svog deteta, plus ti policajci su neciji muzevi, ocevi i sinovi).
То је цела суштина, и на такав изречени незрели став сам реаговао.
Dobro, valjda je vreme da se autujem, i priznam pripadnost Blek panterima sad kad me je Vucicevicevska osovina provalila... :( :cry:
Вучка посебно форсирам јер знам да његова брилијантност нервира тебе и теби сличне у тој мери да не би презала од подршке његовим евентуалним ликвидаторима, као што не презаш од подршке расистичко-терористичким групацијама добро наоружаних црнаца који убијају недужне белце.
Такође, требала би јасно и недвосмислено да осудиш расистичка убиства недужних белаца изведена од стране терористичко-расистичких црначких група, као и да осудиш постојање и циљеве тих расистичко-терористичких црначких група онако вредно и марљиво како то чиниш са осудама белих расистичких група, и на крају да вођу блек пантерса назовеш људским шљамом.
Не буди лицемерка и манипуланткиња, већ изволи - осуди црначки расизам.
Quote from: T2 on 11-07-2016, 17:36:32
црначки расизам.
Već sam dosta puta pisao o ovome, ali evo ovo (koje sam isto kačio bar jednom ranije) da objasni razlike:
https://youtu.be/dw_mRaIHb-M (https://youtu.be/dw_mRaIHb-M)
Нема разлика.
Расизам је расизам.
Јел требам ја сада да тражим по нету изјаве и видео снимке где се црни расисти из Америке у својим радио емисијама радују смањењу броја рођене беле деце да би доказао да не само да су расисти, него да желе потпуно уништење белог човека?
Или нешто овако где се жели освајање Европе путем расног мешања?
QuoteImam tells Muslim migrants to 'breed children' with Europeans to 'conquer their countries' and vows: 'We will trample them underfoot, Allah willing'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3240295/Imam-tells-Muslim-migrants-breed-children-Europeans-conquer-countries-vows-trample-underfoot-Allah-willing.html
Значи, само без убеђивања да је један расизам прихватљивији од другог и без симпатија ка црначком расизму и нема проблема.
@T2
je l možemo da se složimo da početne pozicije belaca i crnaca nisu iste?
Нису биле исте ни почетне позиције Индијаца и енглеских окупатора, па Ганди то није решавао расизмом.
pa ni Martin Luter King Jr. nije rešavao rasizmom, tako da mi nije jasna baš tvoja poenta.
imaš li ti neku ideju kako da se smanji/prekine ubijanje crnaca od strane (mahom) belih policajaca bez jasnog razloga?
За разлику од црначких расистичко-терористичких банди у којима предњаче бљак пантерси.
Бољом обуком полицајаца.
Добро обучен полицајац неће да пуца из страха.
Гледајући снимак у коме је црначки расистички теориста убио метком у главу полицајца тако што му је дошао иза леђа, иза стуба, може да се примети да је полицајац био тактички лоше обучен и да је платио животом своју необученост.
dakle, ništa konstruktivan predlog, samo besmisleni rant.
Crni Panteri su nastali kao posledica policijske brutalnosti, i tu uglavnom prestaje paralela sa recentnim događajima, koji su, u svoj svojoj bezumnosti, takođe posledica policijske brutalnosti.
pored toga, sa Crnim Panterima praviš potpuno pogrešnu paralelu. koliko ja znam (a priznajem da ne znam baš mnogo), u njihovom programu se nigde ne spominje terorizam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party
ako imaš neke druge informacije, rado ću ih pročitati.
edit: čisto da se zna, T2 je editovao post nakon što sam ja poslao svoj, dodavši drugi deo.
Малопре погледам вести, и видим да је сличан предлог изнео и Снуп Дог који учествује у протестима.
У овом тренутку, не видим шта би друго могло да се уради?
Ове ликвидације их сврставају у терористичке групе.
Јесте, едитовао сам пост, јер си ти додао питање maš li ti neku ideju kako da se smanji/prekine ubijanje crnaca od strane (mahom) belih policajaca bez jasnog razloga?, па снмо се мимоишли у одговорима.
Quote from: T2Јесте, едитовао сам пост, јер си ти додао питање maš li ti neku ideju kako da se smanji/prekine ubijanje crnaca od strane (mahom) belih policajaca bez jasnog razloga?, па снмо се мимоишли у одговорима.
s tim sto to nije bila TVOJA ideja nego kompilacija ideja izvucenih iz Meho/D. razgovora na feministickom topiku.
prvo si ispaljivao standardni korpus rasistickih baljezganja, a onda si "odlucio" da budes "konstruktivan", na tudj racun.
http://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/index.php?topic=13437.1500i nije fer editovati post posle necijeg odgovora, no ti se u forumsku etikeciju ionako ne razumes.
Зашто си тако брзоплета?
Сабери се мало, постајеш јако напорна.
Нисам едитовао пост након Томатовог одговора, већ је он едитовао свој пост и додао питање , па сам ја додатно одговорио на то питање, а писали смо готово у исто време.
Своје мишљење сам изградио на основу снимка убиства који сам одгледао неколико пута па сам закључио да је полицајац тактички лоше обучен, јер у супротном не би дозволио да му нападач тако лако зађе иза леђа, тј. иза стуба и овери га метком у потиљак.
xrofl suti plagijatoru, ne pomaze ti Vuckov diskurs u susretu sa hladnim cinjenicama.
Сулудо је што ти уопште одговарам на инсинуације, али нећу ти дозволити да манипулишеш.
Да ли су Д. и Мехо рекли нешто овако:
Гледајући снимак у коме је црначки расистички теориста убио метком у главу полицајца тако што му је дошао иза леђа, иза стуба, може да се примети да је полицајац био тактички лоше обучен и да је платио животом своју необученост.
???
Друга ствар, по теби испада да и Снуп Дог плагира Д. и Меха јер има сличне закључке као они?
Среди се мало, реко сам ти већ, јако си напорна.
Kratak i interesantan tekst na Mashableu koji identifikuje probleme koji bi trebalo da su očigledni ali onda ide i korak dalje i kritikuje rešenja koja nude oni kojima problemi nisu očigledni :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Korisno.
Dear Silicon Valley: Not everything can be solved with apps (https://www.engadget.com/2016/07/08/dear-silicon-valley-not-everything-can-be-solved-with-apps/)
In the wake of the shooting of Philando Castile by a police officer in Falcon Heights, Minnesota, Shervin Pishevar, a prominent investor in Silicon Valley, came up with an idea: a mobile app. The app, as he describes it to
USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/07/07/shervin-pishevar-mobile-app-to-stop-police-killings-of-black-people/86788438/), would be used by both police officers and citizens to communicate via a FaceTime-like call so that neither side would have to leave their vehicles. It would let them exchange information such as driver's license and registration, record audio and video at traffic stops and even have a panic button to contact "specially trained officers" in the event of an emergency. What the app doesn't do, however, is provide a meaningful solution to the problem of racism and police brutality.
This, of course, is not Pishevar's fault. To his credit, he recognizes that getting rid of racism would require structural changes (https://twitter.com/shervin/status/751125015123275776) in our culture and that an app would not be enough to overcome that. But the fact that he came up with the idea for the app at all shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the problem.
Preventing police officers from interacting face-to-face with citizens only scratches the surface, and, in fact, probably introduces a whole host of new problems (how do you verify that someone is showing his or her real license?). It also creates a further barrier between the police and the community they're supposedly serving -- definitely not the message you want to send when you're trying to build bridges. It's not to say that technology can't be helpful -- of course, it can -- but to suggest an app as a solution is a misguided and naive view that tech can solve society's ills.
A few years ago, for example, a programmer by the name of Patrick McConlogue taught Leo Grand, a homeless man, how to code (https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/nov/02/experience-taught-homeless-man-computer). The idea was that if Grand knew programming skills, he could lift himself out of homelessness into a job. So, after several lessons, Grand built his first app, called Trees for Cars. At 99 cents per download, it eventually earned him over $10,000.
Tech needs to stop thinking of solutionist answers. Code will not fix this, especially from organizations that hire almost no black people.
— Anil Dash (@anildash)
July 7, 2016 (https://twitter.com/anildash/status/751111497451991040)But just last year,
Mashable followed up with Grand (http://mashable.com/2015/04/05/homeless-coder-still-homeless/#szUYhSvVuaqP), and it appears that he is still homeless. He apparently spent much of the earnings on everyday essentials and renting out a storage unit. He wasn't able to pay for server space to keep Trees for Cars going. That's not to say that teaching the homeless how to code isn't a valuable skill -- programs like Code Tenderloin (http://www.codetenderloin.com/) in San Francisco have proved to be helpful -- but it's clearly not enough. There are many other issues at play, like affordable housing, mental health and access to basic social services. The truth is you can't just code your way to a better life.
It's all part of a Messiah complex that Silicon Valley is sometimes prone to. Facebook and Twitter often pat themselves on the back for being the sites where people speak of injustice, but that doesn't mean they're beyond reproach. It's great that the official Twitter account called for racial justice (https://twitter.com/twitter/status/751231949700624384), but that rings hollow when you consider the company's failure to deal effectively with the violent hate speech on its own platform.
What we really need is not an app or a tweet. We need more than just talk. We need action. There needs to be increased education, awareness, sensitivity and empathy across the board. We need the tech industry to use its enormous clout to speak to legislators, to work with people and groups who have already laid the groundwork for action. Examples include Campaign Zero (http://www.joincampaignzero.org/#vision), a police-reform campaign that proposes best practices aimed at reducing police violence. It's commendable that people like Pishevar want to help, but suggesting solutions for problems you clearly don't understand doesn't help anyone.
tramp će ipak biti napredak :lol:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=648_1468351940
ђорђе покидо
Озбиљни американци раде управо оно што ја вама говорим, али док ви дајете подршку црначким терористичко-расистичким бандитима који ликвидирају белце и мене проглашавате расистом, дотле озбиљни американци прелазе са речи на дела.
Чак 118.463 американаца је потписало петицију којом од Беле куће захтевају да покрет животи црнаца су важни стави на листу терористичких група на којој се налази и Исламска држава.
Власти морају да одговоре на ову иницијативу у законски прописаном року од 60 дана јер је документ потписало више од 100.000 људи.
Гувернер Тексаса Ден Патрик је одмах осудио убиства полицајаца и изјавио је да за покољ криви покрет животи црнаца су важни:
Та група је једини кривац за расни рат који изнутра разара САД!
Према томе, уздржите се од давања подршке расистичким црначким терористима и слушајте вокс попули а не нво жвакалице.
Izvini ko su ti "rasistički crnački teroristi"? Govoriš u množini, kao da je to neka grupa, a tu je samo jedan lik, Micah Johnson, kog nijedna od crnačkih organizacija nije htela jer je bio pomalo lud. Druga dva slučaja, iz marta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_shootings_of_Oakland_police_officers) i novembra (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood,_Washington,_police_officer_shooting) 2009. imaju samo "crnačku" komponentu, ali ne ni "rasističku" ni "terorističku". Dakle, ko su ti "rasistički crnački teroristi"?
Мацо, црначки расистички терористи су они против којих је преко 100.000 поштених американаца потписало петицију.
Црни расисти крећу у расни рат а домаћи душебрижници мене, који упозоравам на ескалацију црног расизма, проглашавају расистом.
Очекујем да почне пљувачина по потписиницама петиције од стране симпатизера црначких расистичко-терористичких група.
Црнци се дижу на оружје.
Председник црначког покрета Нови црни пантери Хашим Нзинга најавио је да ће његова група на улицама и већим скуповима убудуће носити оружје како би се заштитила од полиције.
Он каже да је сада прави моменат за расну борбу.
Свако ко подржава Хашима Нзингу подржава и Хашима Тачија.
Терориста један, терориста други.
Hajde da sačekamo da ta organizacija počini bar jedan teroristički čin da bismo je nazvali terorističkom organizacijom. Za sada samo koriste govor mržnje koji je u Americi nešto manje regulisan nego ovde. Pošto ovi jesu crnci i jesu rasisti, ali još uvek nisu teroristi, ja za sada ne vidim nikakve rasističke crnačke teroriste.
Teksas je u građanskom ratu pripadao konfederaciji, pa nije ništa neobično što slične inicijative dolaze odande. Mene jedino čudi da to nije pokrenuo neko iz Virdžinije. Sram ih bilo!
Quote from: T2 on 15-07-2016, 02:33:52
преко 100.000 поштених американаца
kako mi da budemo sigurni u njihovo poštenje?
sa druge strane, u protestima koje organizuju Black Lives Matter (za koje si takođe negde izjavio da su teroristi, i da se peticija piše protiv njihovog delovanja) ima dosta belaca među učesnicima. pored toga, 34% belih amerikanaca smatra da će pokret imati efekta, odnosno da može da poboljša poziciju crnaca u Americi.
http://www.colorlines.com/articles/report-youll-never-guess-how-many-white-people-say-they-support-blacklivesmatter
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016/06/27/on-views-of-race-and-inequality-blacks-and-whites-are-worlds-apart/
Gugl kaže da belih Amerikanaca ima 223,553,265, pa je 34% od toga 76,008,110 što je bitno više od 140,140...
procenat podrške je čak nešto veći, oko 40% belih amerikanaca na neki način podržava pokret.
Quote from: mac on 15-07-2016, 11:43:45
Hajde da sačekamo da ta organizacija počini bar jedan teroristički čin da bismo je nazvali terorističkom organizacijom. Za sada samo koriste govor mržnje koji je u Americi nešto manje regulisan nego ovde. Pošto ovi jesu crnci i jesu rasisti, ali još uvek nisu teroristi, ja za sada ne vidim nikakve rasističke crnačke teroriste.
Јел треба да чекамо да почну да отимају путничке авионе и да их претварају у камиказе са којима ће се закуцавати у нпр. Пентагон, па да ти и теби слични схватите да је реч о терористтима?
Да ли ти схваташ да бити терориста не подразумева искључиво извођење терористичких аката, већ бити терориста значи и планирати извођење терористичких аката?
Кад Хашим Нзинга изјави да је право време за расну борбу, онда је јасно да се тиме најављују нова расистичка убиства белаца и нови терористички акти напада на регуларну полицију (а ко да зна, можда и отмице путничких авиона).
Quote from: tomat on 15-07-2016, 14:53:02
procenat podrške je čak nešto veći, oko 40% belih amerikanaca na neki način podržava pokret.
Већ виђена стратеџик маркетинг пројекција која има за циљ да прикаже како је проценат подршке белих американаца црним расиситичким терористима порастао након расистичко-терористичких акција црних расиста у којима су ликвидирани бели американци.
Quote from: tomat on 15-07-2016, 13:48:39
kako mi da budemo sigurni u njihovo poštenje?
Свако ко се у сопственој земљи на било који начин бори против ескалирајућег тероризма се може сматрати поштеном особом.
Сећаш се оног: тероризам је болест - позовите доктора. ;)
Pa i BLM se bori protiv terora, terora policije.
Ne misliš li da je porast podrške BLM uzrokovan represivnim merama (čitaj ubistvima) crnaca od strane policije? Zašto ti je nemoguće da belci podržavaju jednak tretman crnaca i belaca?
Oklen crncima pare za stratedžik marketing? Nešto debelo ne štima s tom pričom.
Питаш се одакле им паре...
Ко се налази нпр. у врху светске музичке сцене?
Нема богатих црнаца спремних да финансирају њихову ствар?
Nema. Bogati crnci su se obogatili od belačkih para. Niko nije lud da digne ruku na svoju zlatnu koku.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BEDuiYDCIAA1mSp.jpg)
Паре људе кваре...
QuoteAMERIČKI MEDIJI OTKRILI DUGO PLANIRANU ZAVERU: Soroš gura Amerikance u rasni rat!
Fondacija američkog milijardera "Otvoreno društvo" daje novac grupi "Životi crnaca su važni". Ta organizacija predvodi proteste širom SAD, koji prete da prerastu u krvavi građanski sukob
Američki milijarder Džordž Soroš, poznat po finansiranju obojenih revolucija po svetu, izaziva rasni rat u SAD, tvrde mediji u SAD. Kako navode, njegova organizacija "Otvoreno društvo" finansira grupu "Životi crnaca su važni" (Black Lives Matter), koja predvodi proteste širom Amerike, a koji prete da prerastu u pravi građanski sukob.
Cilj da prave haos
33 miliona dolara jedne godine je Soroš uplatio pokretu "Životi crnaca su važni" i drugim grupama
Novinar i istoričar Bil Orajli sa TV Foks podseća da su organizaciju "Životi crnaca su važni "2013. osnovale tri žene Patris Kalros, Ališa Garza i Opal Tometi, a sve tri su radile za neku od organizacija koje je finansiralo Soroševo "Otvoreno društvo". Novinar Foksa pretpostavlja da su na taj način i dobile pare od milijardera za svoju grupu.
- Nije tajna da Soroš finansira razne grupe po svetu koje izvode revolucije. Međutim, to radi i u Americi. Govorimo o stotinama hiljada dolara godišnje, koje on daje za razne organizacije. Jedne godine Džordž Soroš je tim organizacijama u SAD uplatio čak 33 miliona dolara - navodi Orajli.
U prilog tome idu navodi lista "Politiko". On otkriva da su se predstavnici grupe "Životi crnaca su važni" prošlog novembra tajno sastali sa organizacijom "Demokratska alijansa" (DA), koju čini krug izabranih bogatih ljudi. Osnivač te grupe je Rob Stein, bivši zvaničnik u administraciji Bila Klintona, zadužen za finansije, a jedan od članova i finansijera je, između ostalih, Džordž Soroš.
- Demokratska alijansa je preporučila svojim donatorima da ispišu čekove organizacijama koje podržavaju grupu "Životi crnaca su važni". To je posredno finansiranje grupe koja pravi haos u zemlji - piše "Politiko".
http://www.informer.rs/vesti/svet/81217/AMERICKI-MEDIJI-OTKRILI-DUGO-PLANIRANU-ZAVERU-Soros-gura-Amerikance-rasni
Šta sad, i belci i crnci hoće građanski rat? Ako sve strane hoće, kako to da rata nema? Ako ja hoću da se bijem s tobom, i ti hoćeš da se biješ sa mnom, onda ćemo lako to ostvariti. A uzgred, zašto bi iko hteo građanski rat? Gde je tu logika?
Treba verovati Informeru :lol: :lol: :lol:
Millennials 'set to earn less than Generation X' (http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36821582)
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Millennials are set to become the first generation to earn less than their predecessors, new research suggests.
The Resolution Foundation found that under-35s earned £8,000 less in their twenties than Generation X workers.
The thinktank defines Generation X as those born between 1966 and 1980 and millennials as those born between 1980 and 2000.
If wages for millennials follow the same path as Generation X, average career earnings will be about £825,000.
That would make them the first generation to earn less than their predecessors over the course of their working lives.
Even if millennials' wages improved rapidly like those of their baby boomer parents born after World War Two, their lifetime earnings would be about £890,000, according to the foundation.
That sum would be just 7% more than Generation X, and only a third of the size of the pay progress that Generation X should enjoy over the baby boomers.
The Resolution Foundation also warned that a post-Brexit recession could cut millennials' earnings even further.
Its research found that some of the pay squeeze was due to under-35s entering the job market as the recession hit, but it also concluded that generational pay progress had ground to a halt even before the financial crisis struck in 2007/8.Complacency riskTorsten Bell, director of the Resolution Foundation, said: "We've taken it for granted that each generation will do much better than the last - earning more and enjoying a higher standard of living. But that approach risks looking complacent given the realities of recent years and prospects for the future."
The research comes as Prime Minister Theresa May warned last week of a growing divide between a "more prosperous older generation and a struggling younger generation".
The think tank has launched a commission to explore growing inequality between generations.
It will be launched at an event in London on Monday attended by David Willetts, executive chairman of the Resolution Foundation, TUC general secretary Frances O'Grady and CBI director-general Carolyn Fairbairn.
The think-tank also found that millennials will have spent £44,000 more on rent (http://www.resolutionfoundation.org/media/press-releases/millennials-have-paid-44000-more-rent-than-the-baby-boomers-by-the-time-they-hit-30/) by the time they reach 30 compared to the baby boomers, and £25,000 more than Generation X.
Extra spending on rent has reduced young people's living standards and made it harder for them to save for a deposit to buy a house, the foundation said.
Senior policy analyst Laura Gardiner said: "Britain's continuing failure to build enough homes means that unless we change course the struggle of young people to own their home is only going to get worse."
Halifax estimated that the average first-time buyer deposit in the UK was now £33,000.
Tragikomedija. Pre par dana beše vest da je policajac u Majamiju upucao (srećom, ne i ubio) afroameričkog muškarca koji se na ulici starao o autističnom mladiću. Beše i video, koji možete i da vidite u dnu stranice koju ću linkovati. Čovek je potpuno nenaoružan i objašnjava policiji da je pružalac nege, moleći ih da ne pucaju. Policijski sindikat Majamija je nekoliko dana razmišljao šta da kaže i sad su smislili, pa se obratili javnosti. Naime, policajac je zapravo ciljao da upuca
drugog muškarca, belog autističnog mladića koji je sedeo na ulici i igrao se kamionom-igračkom, jer je mislio da je kamion-igračka pištolj i da je život njegovog negovatelja ugrožen. Ali je promašio. Onda su policajci prišli ranjenom crnom muškarcu - koga tvrde da su hteli da zaštite - i stavili mu lisice, ne pružajući mu prvu pomoć.
A, onda je valjda okej. Drago mi je da je nesporazum raščićen :cry: :cry: :cry:
Miami police union president: Cop fired weapon to protect unarmed black man, but missed (https://www.yahoo.com/news/miami-police-union-president-cop-000000956.html)
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The North Miami police officer who shot an unarmed black man earlier this week was actually aiming for the autistic man in his care, according to the local police union's leader.
John Rivera, president of Dade County Police Benevolent Association, said the officers on the scene thought the autistic man's toy was a gun and that he intended to harm Charles Kinsey, a behavioral therapist at a nearby assisted-living home.
"Many officers thought the white male had a firearm. Only much later when we're able to Monday-morning quarterback do we find out that it's a toy," Rivera said at a press conference Thursday (https://www.facebook.com/miamiherald/videos/vb.38925837299/10154398863002300/?type=2&theater). "Only much later do we find out that the individual was autistic. The officers on the scene did not know that."
The cop took aim at the autistic man on Monday because he thought Kinsey's life was in danger, but missed and accidentally struck the caretaker instead, he said.
A video showing Kinsey, 47, lying on the ground with his hands in the air explaining the situation to the officers sparked immediate backlash (https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-miami-police-promise-answers-after-video-shows-officer-shooting-unarmed-man-182039541.html) after it was released Wednesday. Supporters of the Black Lives Matter movement and many others were outraged that Kinsey was shot even though he was complying with the officer's demands.
Rivera said whoever recorded the video was much closer to the mental-health care worker than the cops and could therefore hear what he was saying much better.
"Folks, being a police officer has always been difficult and lately it's been more difficult, more challenging. Sometimes police officers do wrong and we let the system work," he said. "And sometimes police officers are right and we still crucify them. And sometimes police officers make mistakes because at the end of the day, they're not computers, they're not robots, they are God's creation."
The North Miami Police Department said the officers were responding to a 911 call from a man who was threatening to commit suicide with a gun.
According to Rivera, the incident should not be viewed through the lens of the heightened tension surrounding law enforcement and African-American communities this summer. Distrust of police officers grew throughout the nation this month after officers shot and killed Alton Sterling (https://www.yahoo.com/news/gofundme-page-alton-sterling-children-000000486.html) in Baton Rouge, La., and Philando Castile (https://www.yahoo.com/news/being-hunted-philando-castile-mother-000000806.html) in Falcon Heights, a suburb of St. Paul, Minn.
Rivera argued that the North Miami incident is unlike the other ones because this time the cop thought of Kinsey as a possible victim worthy of protection — not the suspect.
"This really is a simple yet tragic case," he said. "You had a bunch of officers doing their job, responding, helping the public. And one officer, like many others, thought that Mr. Kinsey's life was in danger. He tried to do something about it."
Rivera repeatedly pleaded for the news media and politicians to share the facts without editorializing the event into something it is not. He accused the media of sensationalizing the story.
He also read a statement written by the officer who shot Kinsey: "I took this job to save lives and help people. I did what I had to do in a split second to accomplish that and hate to hear others paint me as something I am not."
But Hilton Napoleon, the attorney for Kinsey, was not buying Rivera's version of events.
"I don't understand if he's aiming at the autistic kid, how he could miss," Napoleon said to the Miami Herald (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article91261792.html). "He had plenty of time to tell my client to move."
He also questioned why the officers would handcuff Kinsey after he was shot and bleeding from the leg if they were in fact looking out for his safety.
"They handcuffed him after he got shot," Napoleon said.
Quote from: mac on 16-07-2016, 23:24:45
A uzgred, zašto bi iko hteo građanski rat? Gde je tu logika?
Јел имао логику братоубилачки рат међу Србима 1941-1945?
Јел имао тај рат било какве логике?
И ти она тражиш логику за почетак рата у расно мешаној средини, иако имамо прилив новца од стране сороша и других као помоћ црним расистима.
Сетимо се како су сорош и њему слични помагали шиптарске терористе и издајнички нво сектор.
Како Руси гледају на америку.
http://srbinaokup.info/?p=74009
QuoteАМЕРИЧКА ХЕГЕМОНИЈА – ЗМАЈ ЈЕ РАЊЕН
Пише Александр Дугин
Толико смо тога рекли о Трампу да су Демократе и неоконзервативни демони из Националног интереса чак покушали да искористе моје позитивне коментаре о њему и симпатије Мскве према овом кандидату, како би га дискредитовали. Али, једноставно нису у стању да избаце Трампа, јер очигледно води у овој трци.
О, какви ли су то остаци демократије у Сјеињеним државама! Али сада не бих толико о Трампу – о њему мало касније – сада бих о Сједињеним држава.
Шта данас раде Сједињене државе и које је њихове место у савременом свету? Ово није само реторичко питање. Видимо и даље осећамо Американце и њихову глобалну мрежу, а и даље се мешају у унутрашње послове њихових савезника, неутралних земаља, па чак и у послове њихових непријатеља.
Пре неколико дана су буквално покушали да изведу војни пуч у Турској и изазову немире у Јерменији и Казахстану. Али, постаје јасно да су све слабији и слабији. Башингтон је пробао да спречи Брегзит, али без успеха. Гиленистичка побуда у Турској се, такође, завршила неуспехом. Дакле, да ли бисмо могли недвосмислено рећи да је са униполарним светом готово и да сада живимо у новом, пост-америчком свету?
Мислим да би такав оптимизам био преурањен. Још увек не можемо отписати Вашингтон.
Крај америчког света је процес и трајаће. И вероватно ће се развући. Тешко је рећи колико, али је процес распадања униполарног света опасан период. Ово што се сада дешава са Сједињеним државама, назвао био "рањени змај". И, та метафора описује много, готово све.
После укидања Совјетског савеза и Источног блока, појавио се модел униполарног света у коме је амерички змај достигао врхунац своје моћи. Мреже америчких агената који утичу на догађаје, најчешће у облику либералне идеологије, али и користећи мимикрију и локалне политичке и идеолошке трендове, прожимају готово све државе. Змај се ушуњао у политичке елите, велике бизнисе, образовање, медије и неке безбедносне кругове у европским и азијским државама.
У Русији су проамеричке снаге готово отворено доминирале деведесетих и тек после 2000.године је Путин почео да их гура у страну мало по мало. Ове мреже су се рашириле по исламским државама где су њихова војна крила постајала радиклано исламистичка и праве слуге америчког змаја.
Али је змај добио ударац, и серију удараца, по свему судећи фаталне ударце и то на врхунцу своје моћи. Све земље које се пре деведесетих нису клањале америчкој хегемонији и које нису потпуно прихватиле униполарни модел као незаменљив полако су почеле да стварају неформални клуб за отпор змају. Кина је веома опрезно играла на овој линији, покушавајући да јаше тигра и да спроведе модернизацију и либерализацију, али да истовремено сачува, или чак да ојача национални суверенитет.
Почетком двехиљадитих, Русија је почела да следи овај пут. Иран је заузео сличну позицију. Контемплативна Индија је покушала да избегне непосредан амерички диктат. Опозиција је почела да се ствара међу следбеницима змаја у ЕУ; Турској и чак межу проамеричким салафистичким екстремистима. Најважнији задатак је да Американци, који су добили историјску шансу да управљају светом, једноставно нису у стању да то и учине. Можда немају довољно историјског, имеријалног искуства, памети или ресурса. Хегемонија се прегрејала. И тада је змај рањен.
Данас је пред нама глобално рањено чудовиште. Сједињене државе су још увек јаке и њихова мрежа још увек ради. Либерали, исламски екстремисти. Атлантисти, скривени агенти утицај су и даље јаки у многим друштвима. Али, врхунац америчке доминације је за нама.
Чињеница да је змај рањен је постала јасна још двехиљадитих када су Сједињене државе престале да се баве увођењем реда, већ им је контролисани, крвави хаос постао једини циљ. Обојене револуције, пучеви. Преврати, западне трупе у инвазији Блиског истока и пост-совјетског простора су докази.
Суштина свега овога је да је змај рањен. И даље је јак, а појавни облик његове моћи показује да и даље има циљ. Али, у стварности, он је побеснео од бола који му задаје пропаст његове моћи. Стога Сједињене државе почињу да се понашају тако непримерено у многим случајевима.
Нападају сопствене слуге, уништавају оно што се може сачувати, а болно и несразмерно реагују на ситне напад. То је крајње опасно. Рањени змај има нуклеарно оружје и сва његова велика моћ може једним малим бљувањем ватре послати читаво човечанство у провалију.
Sve revolucije su pomalo bratoubilačke. Vođeni tom logikom možemo doći do zaključka da ni Francuska revolucija nije bila logična. A to ne može biti ispravan zaključak, zar ne? Bratoubijanje je u posebnim uslovima neophodna cena, i nije nešto što se mora izbeći po svaku cenu. Nije dovoljno samo da živimo. Nekad za nešto mora i da se mre.
To je što se tiče revolucije u tadašnjoj Jugoslaviji, a ovo što se dešava u SAD je druga priča. Ne postoji razlog da se mre. Potencijalni učesnici revolucije nemaju razloga da učestvuju u toj revoluciji. Navodni inicijatori revolucije nemaju razloga da iniciraju revoluciju. Gde je motiv? Zašto bi Soroš dao pare koje ne mogu da mu se vrate?
Нема више револуција, све револуције су потрошене, оно што је преостало су религијски и расни ратови.
U redu, ali spominješ Soroša. Koji je njegovi interes da sukobi crnce s belcima u Americi? Šta on dobija time? Kad je (ili ako je, nemam dokaza) pokretao plišane revolucije interes je bio spoljno-politički. Ta dešavanja je pokretala zapravo CIA, a Soroš je samo paravan koji izdaje čekove. Zašto bi dakle CIA podstrekivala rasni oružani sukob u Americi, tim pre što je posao Cije da štiti SAD od drugih zemalja, a ne da se meša u to šta se dešava unutra. Za unutra je zadužen FBI.
Ali dobro, recimo da Soroš radi i po nalogu FBI, ili neke pete organizacije unutar Amerike. Koji je motiv za tu organizaciju unutar Amerike da oslabi Ameriku jednim oružanim rasnim sukobom?
Оно што се буде дешавало у Америци - дешаваће се у целом свету, јер Америка је мултикулти мултирасно експериментално огледно поље.
Некима су очигледно циљеви хаос и деструкција из које ће произаћи ред.
Сорош, за кога год да ради, није везан ни за Америку, ни за Европу, ни за Кину, ни за Африку.
Њима уопште није битно ко ће ослабити а ко ојачати, јер центри моћи могу да се премештају по потреби, циљ су непресталне тензије које ће прерасти у религијско-расни обрачун.
Имамо сукоб свих против ислама, и тиме је део о религијском сукобу готово испуњен.
Остаје да се испуни део о расном сукобу.
U redu, ali onda sledi pitanje od milion dolara: ako ti to znaš onda su velike šanse i da FBI za to zna. Ako uzmemo da FBI u celini ne želi rasne sukobe na svojoj teritoriji, i pretpostavljam da postoje i zakoni protiv toga, zašto onda FBI ne pronađe dokaze protiv Soroša i ne uhapsi ga? Zašto Amerika ćuti dok je neprijatelji čereče? Ako dokaza nema, bože moj, rešićemo, dokazi u ratu zapravo nisu ni neophodni, a ako razaranje dolazi spolja onda je u pitanju rat. U ratu mogu Soroša uza zid, i gotova stvar. Ali ni to ne biva. Zašto to?
Michael Jordan speaks out on police shootings: 'I can no longer stay silent' (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/michael-jordan-speaks-out-on-police-shootings-i-can-no-longer-stay-silent-170403368.html)
For years, Michael Jordan has taken criticism from those who'd wished one of the most famous, visible, wealthy and powerful athletes in the world would use his considerable public profile and influence to speak out on social issues affecting the African American community. For years, the six-time NBA champion and basketball legend's legacy of on-court success has been counterbalanced by four non-quoted words — "Republicans buy sneakers, too" (http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/2005/11/an_elusively_so.html) — often used to call Jordan onto the carpet (http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/michael-jordan-kareem-abdul-jabbar-commerce-over-conscience-republicans-buy-sneakers-shoes-jordan-brand-110415) for failing "to embrace the leverage he possessed as the nation's most iconic athlete across the 1990s." (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/sports/basketball/michael-jordan-charlotte-nba-all-star-game.html?smid=tw-nytsports&smtyp=cur)
Well, now, the Hall of Famer and Charlotte Hornets owner has chosen to speak.
In an essay for The Undefeated (http://theundefeated.com/features/michael-jordan-i-can-no-longer-stay-silent/) published Monday, the 53-year-old Jordan makes his voice heard in the wake of the recent unrest in the country following the police killing of Alton Sterling (https://www.yahoo.com/news/alton-sterling-killed-police-baton-130436343.html) in Baton Rouge, La., the police killing of Philando Castile (https://gma.yahoo.com/police-officers-involved-shooting-death-philando-castile-identified-035535379--abc-news-topstories.html#) in Falcon Heights, Minn., the killing of five police officers (https://www.yahoo.com/news/protesters-mass-another-police-shooting-black-man-u-012226569.html) by a lone gunman at an otherwise peaceful Black Lives Matter protest in Dallas, the police shooting of North Miami behavioral therapist Charles Kinsey (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/21/charles-kinsey-did-everything-right-the-police-still-shot-him.html) as he lay on his back with his hands thrust in the air trying to coax an autistic patient back into a mental health center, and all the protests and demonstrations that have followed.
With persistent issues of racism, violence against African Americans, police brutality and gun violence coming (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/what-joakim-noah-would-do-if-he-were-president-is-seriously-important-153052543.html) to the forefront (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/amid-police-killings-melo-weighs-public-statement-at-rio-olympics-194812436.html) for many (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lebron-melo-cp3-and-wade-open-espys-with-call-for-political-action-010009389.html) NBA (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mike-conley-on-injustice-violence-we-have-to-make-a-change-213039673.html) and WNBA (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/amid-heavy-criticism-wnba-rescinds-players-warmup-shirt-fines-152551162.html) players of late, Jordan decided that, "as a proud American, a father who lost his own dad in a senseless act of violence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Jordan_Sr.), and a black man [...] deeply troubled" by the deaths on both sides of the divide, the time was now for him to speak, and to act:
"I was raised by parents who taught me to love and respect people regardless of their race or background, so I am saddened and frustrated by the divisive rhetoric and racial tensions that seem to be getting worse as of late. I know this country is better than that, and I can no longer stay silent. We need to find solutions that ensure people of color receive fair and equal treatment AND that police officers — who put their lives on the line every day to protect us all — are respected and supported.
"Over the past three decades I have seen up close the dedication of the law enforcement officers who protect me and my family. I have the greatest respect for their sacrifice and service. I also recognize that for many people of color their experiences with law enforcement have been different than mine. I have decided to speak out in the hope that we can come together as Americans, and through peaceful dialogue and education, achieve constructive change.
"To support that effort, I am making contributions of $1 million each to two organizations, the International Association of Chiefs of Police's newly established Institute for Community-Police Relations and the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. The Institute for Community-Police Relations' policy and oversight work is focused on building trust and promoting best practices in community policing. My donation to the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, the nation's oldest civil rights law organization, will support its ongoing work in support of reforms that will build trust and respect between communities and law enforcement. Although I know these contributions alone are not enough to solve the problem, I hope the resources will help both organizations make a positive difference."
Jordan's Monday statement comes four days after the NBA announced it was pulling the 2017 All-Star Game from Charlotte (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-pulls-2017-all-star-game-from-charlotte-focuses-on-new-orleans-190148437.html) in opposition to House Bill 2 (https://www.yahoo.com/katiecouric/the-north-carolina-bathroom-bill-hb2-explained-172020141.html), a law passed in March by North Carolina legislators and signed by Republican Gov. Pat McCrory that reversed a Charlotte city ordinance expanding rights and protections for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people. Jordan, who had previously said that he and the Hornets organization were "opposed to discrimination in any form (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/jordan-on-hb2--hornets--opposed-to-discrimination-in-any-form-054300373.html)," had made the decision to issue his statement and make his donations "about two weeks ago," but decided to delay them after learning the league would be relocating the All-Star Game because he "did not want his announcement to take away from the focus on the LGBT community," a spokesperson told The Undefeated (http://theundefeated.com/features/jordan-speaks-out-on-shootings-of-african-americans-police/):
Jordan's commitment to diversity, his spokeswoman said, has been long established. "But he's always been very private and personal about many of these things."
Of the decision to speak out and contribute his voice and money now, she said: "Michael was tired of just talking. He wanted to do something about the issue. This was very important to him."
In years past, Jordan has tended to wield influence in the social sphere as an extension of his business pursuits, as Scoop Jackson detailed for ESPN back in 2014 (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12034228/michael-jordan-contribution-black-issues-greater-perceived) (hat-tip to Myles Brown (https://twitter.com/mdotbrown/status/757611854294355968/photo/1)):
In the comprehensive context of Jordan "not being black enough," people miss how over the years with his position in the Jordan Brand as CEO, the company is the only one inside of Nike that has had multiple African-American presidents. (Disclosure: I worked with Nike from 2001-05, but not with the Jordan brand.) Outside of Nike president Trevor Edwards, the execs at the Jordan Brand have always been the highest-ranking blacks in the parent company (Nike). This is something that Jordan's made sure of; something that is not happenstance or a mistake.
"Michael's willingness to hire, support and promote minority leaders throughout his business ventures has been remarkable," Larry Miller, president of the Jordan Brand said in defense of the perception that the depths of Jordan's contribution to "the struggle" goes no further than that of a glorified pitchman. "He has always been focused on creating successful and sustainable businesses and has empowered minority leaders, including myself, with the opportunity to grow and advance those businesses." [...]
"It is hard to believe that in 2014 there is only one African-American majority owner in all the major men's pro leagues," [said Dr. Richard Lapchick, director at The Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport.] The importance of Michael Jordan as a player is matched by his being the only owner. It is critical for minority youth to see that there are options to battling the long odds to become a pro athlete and that there are many opportunities to work in the world of sport as team presidents, general managers, COOs and, yes, even as owners. In the era of the Donald Sterling nightmare, the NBA and our society need Michael Jordan now more than ever and need other people of color to become owners in the near future."
And yet, as valuable and viable a means of contributing to progress as Jordan's economic leadership has been, this choice to speak about the need for "constructive change" will likely generate far more attention and dialogue ... and, perhaps, further action.
"We're at a critical moment in our country where people do need to step up," said Sherrilyn Ifill, the president and director of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, to The Undefeated (http://theundefeated.com/features/jordan-speaks-out-on-shootings-of-african-americans-police/). "It's important for people who have a profile of a Michael Jordan to step forward and identify this as a critical issue."
Millennials are obsessed with side hustles because they're all we've got (http://qz.com/711773/millennials-are-obsessed-with-side-hustles-because-theyre-all-weve-got/)
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On weekends, Colleen teaches fitness classes. Mary builds websites. Luke sells vintage video games. Tony designs and 3D-prints custom Star Wars miniatures. I write for the internet.
Among my friends, and 20- and 30-somethings as a whole, the side hustle–the gig you work in addition to your day job–is so ubiquitous that, in April, Glamour Magazine posed the rueful question: "You don't freelance on the side... What kind of urban-dwelling Millennial are you?" Failing to participate in the trend might even lead one to a "Millennial identity crisis."
Advertisers, including those you might not think of as in the vanguard, have glommed on, too. This Chevy ad (http://rollingout.com/2016/04/07/chevrolet/) suggests owning a Cruze is a way to "#FuelYourHustle." It's a two minute long rallying cry to being your own boss. Sure, there's no explicit mention of using your shiny new car as an Uber. But if you're under 35, you can probably hear that dog whistle.
I'm not objecting. It's a relief to see facts leading marketing, rather than the other way around. We are Generation 1099. By our side hustles, ye shall know us. What surprises me is that no one, at least to my knowledge, has tried to explain why.
Maybe that's because many people assume the side hustle is just financially oriented, simply another adaptive response to recession-era economics. Google "side hustle" and you will find thousands of stories, but they are all focused on the how. As in, Dear internet, how can I make another $200 a month to cover my Verizon bill?
Extra cash is far from the whole story. It's true, the 2008 crisis forced plenty of people to look for additional sources of income, not least of all the recent graduates who, with little experience and limited networks, were confronting the job market for the first time. But the desire to earn more money on the side predates the crisis (as does the Urban Dictionary definition (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=side+hustle) of "side hustle"). Millennials didn't invent the second job, they just branded it.
Here's an example. Those friends of mine whose jobs are the most squarely aimed at the public good–teachers, local-government workers, a college buddy who works for a beloved and worthy nonprofit–they all tell me their side hustles are about survival, about being able to afford to live. Or just to eat at a restaurant once in a while. None would claim these jobs paid well before the recession.
And that's to say nothing of those who don't have access to college education, those who can't find day jobs at all, and those for whom, by choice or not, a 1099 is all there is.
The sheer range of side hustles suggests there's more in play than money. There are the well known app-based gigs, like Uber and TaskRabbit. You've got the day job with a freelance extension–the full-time graphic designer who also has her own clients. Then there's what you might ungenerously call the side hustle as self-promotion, which covers some yoga teachers and life coaches, though by no means all. Next along the line is the side hustle as self-delusion, i.e. spending years on some (doomed) artistic effort that will make the world care and understand, at last!
If that sounds harsh, well, I should know. Last year, writing for the internet earned me a grand total of $415 before taxes, or about the price of two hotel nights on the outskirts of Manhattan or San Francisco. To say I'm not in it for the money would be understatement. Not because I'm above such earthly considerations. There's just very little money in it to be for.
In fact, given all the hours I've devoted to it, there's no question in my mind that I've lost more than I've made, if only in terms of my Starbucks spend. But I'm not complaining.
The side hustle offers something worth much more than money: A hedge against feeling stuck and dull and cheated by life. This psychological benefit is the real reason for the Millennial obsession, I'd argue, and why you might want to consider finding your own side hustle, no matter how old you are.
Now, you might wonder, what would a bunch of twenty-five year olds know about feeling stuck and dull? Put another way, what happens when a generation raised with a "you can be whatever you want to be" ethos meets the worst job market in years? In which many of the traditional dream careers–from working in the arts to becoming a lawyer–go from being long shots to being totally untenable, or more or less cease to exist altogether?
For me, the biggest laugh in Amy Schumer's Trainwreck was the notion that, in an ostensible 2014-2015, her character has a "great job" as a staff writer at a (print!) men's magazine–a job so lucrative she can afford a "sick apartment" and also help to underwrite her father's nursing-home costs. Romcoms, even when written by a progressive, typically on-point comic like Schumer, aren't intended to be realistic portrayals. Still, the detail struck me as less fanciful than simply uncanny, more appropriate to a Buñuel film with explicit surrealist intentions.
Much closer to the mark was how, in Lena Dunham's Girls, Marnie aspires to be an art curator until she is told, by a curator, that "curator as a job doesn't really exist anymore." I can relate. The person who encouraged me not to pursue a full-time journalism career was himself a career journalist. We even attended the same journalism school 35 years apart. I'm speaking of my Dad.
Okay, so them's the breaks. Previous generations have also coped with such semi-tragedy; probably every human ever has been a sort of actor-waiter at some point. In any case, those of us who are employed generally understand ourselves to be lucky. Working as a benefits administrator, an ad-sales rep or even a Facebook engineer might not be the dream job. But your side hustle can keep you from feeling pigeonholed. It's the distraction from your disappointment, a bridge between crass realities and your compelling inner life.
In the best-case scenario, your side hustle can be like a lottery ticket, offering the possibility–however remote–that you just might hit the jackpot and discover that holy grail of gigs. The one that perfectly blends money and love. The one that's coming along any day now.
Highest-paid CEOs run worst-performing companies, research finds (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/highest-paid-ceos-worst-performing-companies-research-a7156486.html)
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The highest-paid CEOs (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/ceo) tend to run some of the worst-performing companies, according to new research.
The study (https://www.msci.com/documents/10199/91a7f92b-d4ba-4d29-ae5f-8022f9bb944d), carried out by corporate research firm MSCI, found that for every $100 (£76) invested in companies with the highest-paid CEOs would have grown to $265 (£202) over 10 years.
But the same amount invested in the companies with the lowest-paid CEOs would have grown to $367 (£279) over a decade.
Titled 'Are CEOs paid for performance? Evaluating the Effectiveness of Equity Incentives', the report looked at the salaries of 800 CEOs at 429 large and medium-sized US companies between 2005 and 2014 and compared it with the total shareholder return of the companies.
The report notes: "Equity incentive awards now comprise 70 per cent or more of total summary CEO pay in the United States, based on our calculations. Yet we found little evidence to show a link between the large proportion of pay that such awards represent and long-term company stock performance.
"In fact, even after adjusting for company size and sector, companies with lower total summary CEO pay levels more consistently displayed higher long-term investment returns.
Recommending the focus shift away from annual reports to longer-term performance, it adds: "Closer scrutiny of the relationship between CEO pay and performance over longer time periods could lead to different conclusions."
Ric Marshall, a senior corporate governance researcher at MSCI, said in a statement: "The highest paid had the worst performance by a significant margin. It just argues for the equity portion of CEO pay to be more conservative."
"Whether you look at the entire group or adjust by market-cap and sector, you really get very similar results."
Na linku imaju i grafikoni...
Ovo je nešto kao Zeitgeist X: the Final Countdown. Narator mnogo najavljuje, a malo konkretno objašnjava, ali zato video maestralno gradi dramu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PqFYMZpBxw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PqFYMZpBxw)
https://medium.com/welcome-to-the-scream-room/im-with-the-banned-8d1b6e0b2932#.u5y5ufw1f
Lori Peni i Milo Janopulos :lol:
Milo Yiannopoulos is a charming devil and one of the worst people I know. I have seen the death of political discourse reflected in his designer sunglasses. It chills me. We met four years ago, before he was the self-styled "most fabulous supervillain on the internet," when he was just another floppy-haired right-wing pundit and we were guests on opposing sides of a panel show whose topic I don't remember and can't be bothered to look up. Afterwards we got hammered in the green room and ran around the BBC talking about boys. It was fun.
Since that day, there is absolutely nothing I have been able to say to Milo to persuade him that we are not friends. The more famous he gets off the back of extravagantly abusing women and minorities, the more I tell him I hate him and everything he stands for, the more he laughs and asks when we're drinking. I'm a radical queer feminist leftist writer burdened with actual principles. He thinks that's funny and invites me to his parties.
The key distinction, at this convention and among the petty demagogues here assembled, is between the attention hustlers—the pure troll howlers who play this grotesque game for its own sake and their own—and the true believers. Roosh is a true believer, and that puts him at a disadvantage.
Roosh means what he's saying, but he's still aware that he's playing a game — the same game almost everyone in this crucible of A-list internet con-men is playing. It's the game of turning raw rage into political currency, the unscrupulous whorebaggery of the troll gone pro. These are people who cashed in their limited principles to cheat at poker. Milo is the best player here. Like Trump, and like a lot of successful politicians in this postmodern circus, they channel their own narcissism to give voice to the wordless, formless rage of the people neoliberalism left behind. They offer new win conditions for the humiliated masses. Welcome to the scream room. There's a cheese plate
[...]
My new Spectator friend is as bewildered as I am by the way Americans take Milo and his ilk seriously, by their willingness to take pride in performative bigotry and call it strength. It works. It sells. It's the unholy marriage of that soulless debate culture that works so well in Britain, transplanted to a nation with no social safety net and half a billion guns. It works, in part, because of the essentially cult-like nature of U.S. culture and the structured ignorance that accompanies it. America is a nation eaten by its own myth. The entire idea of America is about believing impossible things. Nobody said those things had to be benign.
https://youtu.be/7vN_PEmeKb0
Ovo je ko suđenje Šekiju
A bit of cash can keep someone off the streets for 2 years or more (http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/08/bit-cash-can-keep-someone-streets-2-years-or-more)
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If someone is about to become homeless, giving them a single cash infusion, averaging about $1000, may be enough to keep them off the streets for at least 2 years. That's the conclusion of a new study, which finds that programs that proactively assist those in need don't just help the victims—they may benefit society as a whole.
"I think this is a really important study, and it's really well done," says Beth Shinn, a community psychologist at Vanderbilt University in Nashville who specializes in homelessness but was not involved in the work.
Homelessness isn't just bad for its sufferers—it shortens life span and hurts kids in school—it's a burden on everyone else. Previous studies have concluded that a single period of homelessness can cost taxpayers $20,000 or more, in the form of welfare, policing, health care, maintaining homeless shelters, and other expenses. To combat homelessness, philanthropic organizations have either tried to prevent people from losing their homes in the first place or help them regain housing after they are already destitute. But there aren't many data on whether giving cash to people on the brink of becoming homeless actually prevents them from living on the street.
So economist James Sullivan of the University of Notre Dame in South Bend, Indiana, took advantage of a natural experiment. Funding for homelessness prevention programs is highly unpredictable, and thus many programs are often temporarily unable to give money to people about to lose their homes, even if they qualify for the assistance. That allowed him and his colleagues to compare the eventual fate of individuals and families who called into a homelessness prevention call center in Chicago, Illinois, when funds were available versus those who called when funds were not.
The programs work by giving one-time cash quantities to people on the brink of homelessness who can demonstrate that they will be able to pay rent by themselves in the future, but who have been afflicted by some nonrecurring crisis, such as a medical bill. Recipients need to be able to demonstrate consistent future income, and the amount given needs to actually cover their housing expenses for the month. The average amount paid out, according to Sullivan, is about $1000.
The team tracked the two groups for several months. Those who called when funding was available—and received the cash infusion—were 88% less likely to become homeless after 3 months (http://science.sciencemag.org/cgi/doi/10.1126/science.aag0833) and 76% less likely after 6 months, the researchers report today in Science. "We found no evidence that this effect fades away," Sullivan says. "There is evidence that it's a sustained impact up to 2 years later."
Although it might seem obvious that giving people money would keep them off the street, many antiwelfare critics have argued that such charity only prolongs the decline into homelessness. But that appears not to be the case, Sullivan says.
The researchers also found that targeting only the people who will actually go on to become homeless both increases the program's impact and reduces its cost. Many people in the study who qualified for the financial assistance but did not receive it because of lack of funds did not go on to actually become homeless—they found some other solution to pay their bills or were able to move in with friends and family. Determining who will or won't actually become homeless is a tricky business, but the data suggest that the poorest people—those furthest below the poverty line—are more at risk and thus receive the greatest benefit from the cash.
If programs can find a better way to target the most vulnerable people, Sullivan's research suggests they could save everyone money in the long run. The study found that, on average, it costs $10,300 overall to prevent a spell of homelessness when the costs of operating the call centers and maintaining the funding networks are included. But that figure can be reduced to $6800 by targeting very low-income families. This may seem high, especially considering only a fraction of that money goes directly to the person in need, but even its current state, that number is roughly only half the $20,000 that a period of homelessness may cost society.
Shinn says the study shows that these types of programs are absolutely effective and worthy of more consistent funding. And economics aside, there's a definite moral benefit to helping people staring down the real possibility of becoming homeless, says social scientist Dennis Culhane at the University of Pennsylvania. "These are generally very, very poor people for whom our safety net has been dramatically eroded over the last 30 years," he says.
Culhane says the programs can help prevent people from having to resort to prostitution and other dangerous behaviors to pay off debts from payday loans or other means of making ends meet. "These are not things that are easily quantifiable the way an economist would do it, but I don't lose sleep at night about the fact that a lot of very poor people are getting emergency cash assistance when facing a financial crisis—even if they wouldn't have become homeless without it."
Ako vam se čita nešto depresivno:
https://medium.com/@subes01/this-is-your-life-in-silicon-valley-933091235095#.ctgappybt
Ako vam se sluša nešto toliko poučno da je neumitno depresivno:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh7rdCYCQ_U
http://www.motherjones.com/media/2016/08/whats-missing-from-journalism
Jesse Ventura: The DEA has just been 'toying with us' on legalizing marijuana (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jesse-ventura-dea-just-toying-142823535.html)
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Last week, the DEA decided not to reschedule the classification of marijuana as a legal drug. According to federal drug codes, cannabis is still as deadly and addictive as heroin, with no known medical value. I was surprised to see how many articles were written about this decision without mentioning the obvious: This was going to happen. The DEA was just toying with us.
There were petitions that received enough signatures and then some senators wrote the DEA a letter, so the DEA had to give the matter "serious consideration." But as long as the DEA is in charge of both writing the law and enforcing it, they're going to keep things status quo, no matter what American taxpayers actually want.
There are all kinds of contradictions and misrepresentations about marijuana. Everyone says we need more research to determine the true medical value of marijuana, but that won't happen within the U.S. for a number of reasons. In the first place, the DEA is in charge of approving scientific research studies! Now, the DEA isn't an independent organization or a scientific organization — they are a law-enforcement organization — yet they are given the responsibility to be both judge and jury when it comes to what research studies can be done within the United States?
There are plenty of scientific studies that have proven the medical value of marijuana, but they're being done in countries like Spain and Israel — and get this: our federal government actually funds those studies. A prime example is Dr. Raphael Mechoulam of Israel. The U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH) has provided Dr. Mechoulam with funding for cannabis research since the early 1960s, and the National Institute of Drug Abuse (NIDA) gave him a Lifetime Achievement Award in 2011 for his research. So what does that tell you? Well, I've read his research and I can tell you this much: Although recreational marijuana is illegal in Israel, thanks to what Dr. Mechoulam has been able to prove, medical marijuana—not a pill, but the actual plant in smoked or edible form — is being prescribed in Israel for PTSD, epilepsy and rare seizure disorders, MS, Chrohn's, chronic pain, cancer, and even HIV.
Meanwhile, the majority of Americans with those same conditions don't have access to medical marijuana as a treatment approach, even though American taxpayer money went to fund Dr. Mechoulam's studies! It's not the NIDA or the NIH deciding the value of marijuana, it's the DEA, and clearly the organization is too biased. And why wouldn't they be? They naturally want to keep the war on drugs going strong — otherwise, they'd be out of a job.
See, it comes down to job security. Why on earth would they reverse their position on marijuana? That would mean for the past 45 years, they've been prosecuting American citizens unjustly, ruining lives, and for what? Nothing. Literally nothing. Imagine if the DEA did reclassify marijuana. Would everyone with a marijuana conviction then be able to sue the DEA? Would their sentences be commuted? Would we see amnesty for marijuana offenders?
The DEA has requested a budget of $2.1 million for 2017. That's a pretty significant budget considering public enemy number one — namely, marijuana — is now being grown legally in 25 states. I mean, come on, this is just getting ridiculous. But I guess that's the American way. We allow our federal government to spend trillions on ridiculous wars — the Afghanistan War, the Iraq War, and the War on Drugs. If only there were a war on health care or a war on education or a war on infrastructure or a war on solar power. Imagine what we could accomplish!
So, how do we fight back on the DEA's War on Drugs?
There are 14 states with marijuana measures on the ballot for 2016. There are 25 states and Washington, DC that have legalized medical marijuana in some way.
If you want to rebuild our economy and really create new jobs, then we need a new industry. We don't need promises from presidential hopefuls; we in the private sector can do it on our own.
In 2015, Colorado earned more than $135 million in taxes and fees thanks to the marijuana industry. More than $35 million of that money will go toward school-construction projects. Washington state is projected to earn more than $270 million in taxes by the end of 2016. If you want to think about that on a national level, there are approximately 21,000 to 33,000 businesses in the U.S. that are tied to the marijuana industry, and that number will clearly increase if more states legalize it. How's that for rejuvenating the economy?
We have to stop thinking that the federal government knows best because it doesn't. Over half the country wants marijuana to be legalized. Just to put that into perspective: We haven't seen that kind of universal agreement on who we want as the next president!
To me, that means it's time for the government to stop opposing marijuana because it's the government's job to carry out the will of the people. The people have clearly spoken. Scientific research, though conveniently ignored, has also spoken.
If the DEA won't step aside, we'll just have to make them obsolete. Imagine if every state legalized marijuana. That could very well happen within our lifetimes. See, right now, Americans aren't equal. Some Americans can grow marijuana in their back yards, and some Americans go to jail for doing the same thing. How long will we allow such hypocrisy to continue? Step one starts at the state level. Step one starts with showing the DEA that We the People are the boss.
Commentary by Jesse Ventura, the former governor of Minnesota and the author of "Jesse Ventura's Marijuana Manifesto (http://www.amazon.com/Jesse-Venturas-Marijuana-Manifesto-Ventura/dp/1510714243/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464975608&sr=8-1&keywords=jesse+ventura+marijuana+manifesto)" (Sept. 6 2016). He was a Navy SEAL and is a Vietnam veteran. He was also a professional wrestler from 1975 to 1986 under the ring name Jesse "The Body" Ventura. Follow him on Twitter @GovJVentura (http://www.twitter.com/GovJVentura).
Video: The real story behind the H-1B visa program (http://www.computerworld.com/article/3109006/it-careers/the-real-story-behind-the-h-1b-visa-program.html)
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The vast majority of people who work in IT did everything right: They invested in their education, studied difficult subjects, kept their skills updated. They own homes, raise families and look to the future.
But no job is safe, no future entirely secure -- something IT workers know more than most. Given their role, they are most often the change agents, the people who deploy technologies and bring in automation that can turn workplaces upside down. To survive, they count on being smart, self-reliant and one step ahead.
Into that mix of dedication and hope comes the H-1B visa program. It allows a limited number of high-skilled foreign workers to work at U.S. companies. But over the years it has also become a way for companies to outsource jobs.
When a company decides to outsource IT jobs overseas, there is no protection for U.S. workers. Professional accomplishments are irrelevant. Degrees -- whether in computer science, mathematics, or in some field that has allowed them to figure technology out -- do not matter. The internal awards of merit, the five-star performance reviews are meaningless. The unpaid hours, at nights and on weekends, make no difference. The workplace turns cold, hostile, indifferent (http://www.computerworld.com/article/3077302/it-careers/it-layoffs-at-insurance-firm-are-a-never-ending-funeral.html). Often, substantial numbers of IT workers (http://www.computerworld.com/article/3042902/it-careers/at-hertz-it-sheriffs-shock-and-tough-choices.html) leave. Sometimes entire departments are gone. Here's how it usually unfolds: A U.S. company will bring in IT services contractors (http://www.computerworld.com/article/3057581/it-careers/it-employees-at-emblemhealth-fight-to-save-jobs.html). These contractors, more often than not, bring in H-1B visa-holding workers. The replacement training begins with web conferences with workers overseas, then it shifts to the office. The system may seem insulting (http://www.computerworld.com/article/3057237/it-outsourcing/the-pain-of-training-your-replacement.html), such as when workers are prohibited from asking the contractors any questions. A foreign worker will sit in a cubicle and watch what the IT worker does, then they switch roles. What may have once been diverse IT department gradually becomes less so (http://www.computerworld.com/article/2956584/it-outsourcing/with-h-1b-visa-diversity-doesnt-apply.html?nsdr=true).
Over the years, I've interviewed scores of IT workers who trained their visa-holding replacements (http://www.computerworld.com/article/2915904/it-outsourcing/fury-rises-at-disney-over-use-of-foreign-workers.html). Though details each time may differ, they all tell the same basic story (http://www.computerworld.com/article/2879083/it-outsourcing/southern-california-edison-it-workers-beyond-furious-over-h-1b-replacements.html).
There are many issues around high-skilled immigration, but to grasp the issue fully you need to understand how the H-1B program can affect American workers.
Nego, da vidimo kako stvari stoje u zemlji slobodnih, domu odvažnih:
How the US will end its 30-year history with private prisons (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37133879)
QuoteThe US government said this week that it would reduce and eventually cease its use of private prisons.
"[Private prisons] compare poorly to our own Bureau facilities," Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates wrote in a memo to US officials (https://www.justice.gov/opa/file/886311/download). "They simply do not provide the same level of correctional services, programs, and resources; they do not save substantially on costs ... they do not maintain the same level of safety and security."
According to David C Fathi, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's National Prison Project, this memo represents a sea change in the attitude of the US government towards privatised corrections.
"This really is a historic reversal of the last 30 years," he says. "It's even more significant as a signal that's being sent and quite probably a harbinger of things to come."
However, while the announcement will have a significant impact on certain prisoners overseen by the federal government, this will change nothing for the vast majority of the US prison populace.
Here is a look at the immediate impact on the Federal Bureau of Prisons, and a glimpse of what may be to come.Which inmates does this announcement affect?Currently, the federal government contracts with 13 private facilities across the US, from California to North Carolina. These kinds of facilities are run by three for-profit companies: Corrections Corporation of America, Geo Group, and Management and Training Corporation.
All told, these private facilities hold about 22,660 inmates (https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf) who will be affected by this announcement. That's a small percentage - 12% - of the total number of inmates currently incarcerated by the federal government.Which inmates are not affected by this announcement?
The number of inmates who will be affected by this decision is a miniscule portion of the overall prison population in the US, which is estimated at 2.2m. The vast majority of these men and women are held in state prisons, not federal ones, and so the change in policy has no effect on them.
In addition, while this marks the end of the Bureau of Prison's use of private companies, the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement relies heavily on private facilities to hold immigrant detainees - an estimated 70% of its inmates are in private facilities, about 24,000 people in total (https://theintercept.com/2016/08/18/justice-department-done-with-private-prisons-will-ice-drop-them-too/). Those detainees are not affected by this week's announcement.
In fact, while the population of the federal prisons is contracting, the number of immigrant detainees held under Ice jurisdiction is growing. Just recently, Ice approved a new, $1bn contract with CCA (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/inside-the-administrations-1-billion-deal-to-detain-central-american-asylum-seekers/2016/08/14/e47f1960-5819-11e6-9aee-8075993d73a2_story.html) for facilities to hold the growing number of Central American asylum seekers in Texas. All of those factors make it seem unlikely that the Department of Homeland Security has immediate plans to cease using private prisons.
"It would be a heavier lift for them," says Fathi.How will the federal government eliminate its use of private prisons?
As Yates noted in her announcement, the federal prison population has already shrunk over the last three years. This has freed up space to move inmates from private facilities back into government-owned facilities.
Nicole D Porter, director of advocacy for the Sentencing Project, says this is a direct result of changes made by President Barack Obama's Department of Justice.
"If steps hadn't been taken to reduce the scale of incarceration in federal prison there wouldn't have been the opportunity to phase out private prison contracts," she says. "This is all because of Obama's leadership and efforts."
There are fewer federal inmates entering at the front door thanks to former Attorney General Eric Holder's direction (https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/oip/legacy/2014/07/23/ag-memo-department-policypon-charging-mandatory-minimum-sentences-recidivist-enhancements-in-certain-drugcases.pdf) that low-level, nonviolent drug offenders should not be given automatic harsh, mandatory minimum sentences. And there are more leaving out of the back door, thanks to retroactive drug sentence reductions, which affected 46,000 inmates (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/07/18/332619083/drug-sentencing-guidelines-reduced-for-current-prisoners). The nation's historic low crime rate is also a factor.
"Assuming that the federal prison population continues to decline, then certainly it can be achieved ... Certainly within a ten-year period," says Martin Horn, distinguished lecturer in corrections at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice.
Some of that reduction is already happening. The DOJ memo says that a contract for 10,000 beds has been reduced to 3,600 beds at facilities in Texas. In New Mexico, a contract for a 1,200 bed facility was simply not renewed. The memo estimates the number of federal inmates in private prisons will be cut by 50% by spring of 2017.Will the states soon follow suit?
State-level correctional facilities are a huge portion of the private prison companies' business. An estimated 94,000 inmates (http://sentencingproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Too-Good-to-be-True-Private-Prisons-in-America.pdf) are housed in private prisons in the states.
New Mexico, Montana and Hawaii are among states that rely heavily on private prisons to hold their inmates. Some states do not use private prisons at all (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p14.pdf), including Illinois, Massachusetts and Nebraska.
Nevertheless, to end for-profit incarceration in the US, over half the states would have to change their current policies. Fathi says that state legislators may be swayed by the change in federal policy.
"The federal prison system has traditionally been looked to by the states as a leader in the field, as an exemplar of best practices," he says. "Once someone does it and the sky doesn't fall, and maybe some good things happen - saving money or a reduction in violence - then you see other systems coming along and following the model.
"I think that's what we're likely to see here."
Horn is more sceptical, saying that the concerns of the federal government do not always match up with those of the individual state legislatures.
"Most of the states that use private prisons are philosophically comfortable with it and are not going to be persuaded by this," he predicts.
Is this the end of private prison companies?No. Although the announcement from Yates caused CCA's stock price to plummet, Horn says these companies have already begun diversifying and moving into international markets.
He points out that MTC now runs most of London's probation system, under the name MTCNovo (http://www.vice.com/read/bernie-warner-management-and-training-corporation-uk-probation-privatisation). CCA has a large real estate portfolio. Geo Group has moved into other areas of the corrections business by, for example, acquiring an electronic monitoring company in 2011 (https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2011/apr/15/geo-group-acquires-electronic-monitoring-firm-for-415-million/).
Horn says he isn't even sure that the 13 prisons - once empty of federal inmates - will necessarily shut down.
"They may now turn to states and offer them more competitive pricing and it might make it more attractive to states to use these places," he says.
"Clearly they're going to try to find other customers for these facilities."
To je ohrabrujuće. Ali ovo sledeće... Hmmm...
Chicago's predictive policing tool just failed a major test (http://www.theverge.com/2016/8/19/12552384/chicago-heat-list-tool-failed-rand-test)
QuoteStruggling to reduce its high murder rate, the city of Chicago has become an incubator for experimental policing techniques. Community policing, stop and frisk, "interruption (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-ceasefire-funds-frozen-as-chicago-shootings-climb-20151009-story.html)" tactics — the city has tried many strategies. Perhaps most controversial and promising has been the city's futuristic "heat list" — an algorithm-generated list identifying people most likely to be involved in a shooting.
The hope was that the list would allow police to provide social services to people in danger, while also preventing likely shooters from picking up a gun. But a new report from the RAND Corporation (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11292-016-9272-0) shows nothing of the sort has happened. Instead, it indicates that the list is, at best, not even as effective as a most wanted list. At worst, it unnecessarily targets people for police attention, creating a new form of profiling.It unnecessarily targets people for police attentionFunded through a $2 million grant from the National Institute of Justice (http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/19/5419854/the-minority-report-this-computer-predicts-crime-but-is-it-racist), the list's algorithm identifies people by looking not only at arrests, but also whether someone is socially connected with a known shooter or shooting victim. The program also has a kind of pre-crime feature in which police visit people on the list before any crime has been committed.
One of the list's most promising aspects was that it wasn't just a police officer who would visit. Social workers would show up, too — employees of the Chicago Violence Reduction Strategy group at John Jay College. The list was designed to let Chicago police engage with at-risk (and potentially dangerous) citizens, but also to provide social services, such as access to counseling, to people who were in danger.
"We want to show them the carrot and the stick," said Christopher Mallette, executive director of the Chicago Violence Reduction Strategy group, in a conversation with The Verge last year. "We want them to know they can get help — but we also want them to know that if they don't keep in line, there's a jail cell waiting for them.""We want to show them the carrot and the stick." CPD wasn't shy about touting the importance of the list, later rebranded as the Strategic Subjects List, or SSL. In 2014, the CPD official in charge of the program, Commander Jonathan Lewin, told (http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/19/5419854/the-minority-report-this-computer-predicts-crime-but-is-it-racist)The Verge (http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/19/5419854/the-minority-report-this-computer-predicts-crime-but-is-it-racist): "This will inform police departments around the country and around the world on how best to utilize predictive policing to solve problems. This is about saving lives."
But the study from RAND, which was granted extraordinary access to CPD when it launched the list in 2013, found that the program has saved no lives at all. The RAND researchers were allowed to view the list, sit in on internal meetings, and generally observe how the tool was being used. They discovered that CPD wasn't using the list as a way to provide social services; instead, CPD was using it as a way to target people for arrest.
"The individuals on the SSL were considered to be 'persons of interest' to the CPD," according to the report (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11292-016-9272-0). "Overall ... there was no practical direction about what to do with individuals on the SSL, little executive or administrative attention paid to the pilot, and little to no follow-up with district commanders."CPD was using it as a way to target people for arrest.John S. Hollywood, one of the report's authors, explained to The Verge that there were as many as 11 different violence reduction initiatives going on within CPD at the time the list was being rolled out. "The list just got lost," he said.
It was no surprise, then, that when Hollywood and his colleagues compiled data to figure out whether the list changed the city's murder rate or reduced the likelihood that someone on the list might be involved in a shooting, they found it made no significant difference.
"[A]t-risk individuals were not more or less likely to become victims of a homicide or shooting as a result of the SSL, and this is further supported by city-level analysis finding no effect on the city homicide trend," according to the report.
Instead of being used to prevent violence, the list essentially served as a way to find suspects after the fact. "We do find, however, that SSL subjects were more likely to be arrested for a shooting," the report said.The list essentially served as a way to find suspects after the factCPD's Lewin declined to comment about the report, but CPD issued a press release in response (http://4abpn833c0nr1zvwp7447f2b.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/RAND_Response-1.pdf). It stressed that RAND "evaluated a very early version" of the list, "which has since evolved greatly and has been fully integrated with the Department's management accountability process." It also points out that "the prediction model discussed in the report is the very early, initial model (Version 1), developed in August, 2012. We are now using Version 5, which is significantly improved."
Hollywood agreed that the list was in an early stage when it was evaluated, and that it's possible that it has improved. (CPD has agreed to allow RAND researchers to evaluate an updated version of the list, Hollywood said.)
The RAND report is significant, however, as a rare look at the effectiveness of a major predictive policing tool that was touted as the future of policing — and may instead be a failed experiment."Creating a data-driven 'most-wanted' list misses the value."Andrew G. Ferguson, a law professor and predictive policing expert at the University of the District of Columbia, summarized the problems identified in the RAND report.
"Just creating a data-driven 'most-wanted' list misses the value of big data prediction," Ferguson said in an email. "The ability to identify and proactively intervene in the lives of at risk youth is a positive, but you have to commit to the intervention piece."
"Just directing police toward those individuals for traditional policing is not enough," he said.
Govori Urdu, da te ceo svet razume..
Don't you have to speak English, some wonder, to drive a taxi here (in NYC)?
As of Friday, the answer is no.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/20/nyregion/new-york-taxi-drivers-english-exam.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/20/nyregion/new-york-taxi-drivers-english-exam.html?_r=0)
To je zanimljivo.
sto se ubera tice, valjda komunikacija nije ni potrebna, zna adresu na koju treba da te odveze, unapred je placeno elektronskim putem, sto eliminise potrebu komunikacije. nedavno sam imala priliku da to i testiram, nije razmenjena nijedna rec. :lol:
inace, pre neki mesec sam putovala klasicnim taksijem, recimo samo da smo i ja i taksista bili izgubljeni u prevodu, bez mogucnosti komunikacije, ali sam bez obzira na to stigla gde treba.
e, sad, ipak su na engleskom govornom podrucju pa to malo nenormalno zvuci, morali bi da imaju bar neko bazicno znanje i razumevanje jezika, ne moraju biti sposobni da pricaju o umetnosti i filozofiji...
WTF!!!!!!
http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/news/nation-world/ct-26-overdoses-in-just-hours-a-small-west-virginia-city-faces-its-demons-20160819-story.html
One of the biggest crime waves in America isn't what you think it is (http://theweek.com/articles/642568/biggest-crime-waves-america-isnt-what-think)
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In dollar terms, what group of Americans steals the most from their fellow citizens each year?
The answer might surprise you: It's employers, many of whom are committing what's known as wage theft. It's not just about underpaying workers. They're not paying workers what they're legally owed for the labor they put in.
It takes different forms: not paying workers the federal, state, or local minimum wage; not paying them overtime; or just monkeying around with job titles to avoid regulations.
No one knows exactly how big a problem wage theft is, but in 2012 federal and state agencies recovered (http://www.epi.org/publication/epidemic-wage-theft-costing-workers-hundreds/) $933 million for victims of wage theft. By comparison, all the property taken in all the robberies of all types in 2012, solved or unsolved, amounted (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/23tabledatadecoverviewpdfs/table_23_offense_analysis_number_and_percent_change_2011-2012.xls) to a little under $341 million.
Remember, that $933 million is just the wage theft that's been addressed by authorities. The full scale of the problem is likely monumentally larger: Research suggests American workers are getting screwed out of $20 billion (http://www.epi.org/blog/new-legislation-could-help-end-wage-theft-epidemic/) to $50 billion (http://www.epi.org/publication/epidemic-wage-theft-costing-workers-hundreds) annually.
The most dramatic recent example occurred right on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C. The Senate employs several hundred food service workers in its cafeterias through a private contractor. Last December, those workers successfully organized (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/12/14/senate-workers-win-raise-in-new-contract-but-not-quite-15-and-a-union/) for a pay raise. But then the workers discovered (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/07/27/senate-workers-willl-get-1-million-in-back-pay-after-labor-department-probe/) the private contractor was demoting them into job titles but not changing their duties to get around federal regulations about how much government contractors need to compensate their employees. That kicked off a Labor Department probe, which found the contractors had been short-changing the workers in other ways since 2010. Now 674 employees will be getting over $1 million total in back pay, or about $1,500 per person.
Catherine Rampell pointed out (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-need-more-investigators-to-sniff-out-wage-theft/2016/07/28/0db003fe-54f4-11e6-bbf5-957ad17b4385_story.html) that some of the Senate cafeteria workers were so poorly paid that they were (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/12/14/senate-workers-win-raise-in-new-contract-but-not-quite-15-and-a-union/) homeless or on public assistance. The Americans who get hit hardest by wage theft tend to be the most vulnerable workers with the least power: low-paid, often in service work, often racial minorities or part of marginalized social groups.
Stories abound throughout (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-carnival-workers-wage-theft-0810-biz-20160809-story.html) the economy. A group of workers in Indiana, Kentucky, Illinois, and Florida who are employed by the traveling carnival company North American Midway Entertainment are suing for wage theft going back to 2013. Working a carnival can regularly involve 12-hour days. But the workers' attorney estimated they'd sometimes been paid as little as $5 an hour, because their employer dodged overtime requirements and other rules. The Chicago Tribune reported (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-carnival-workers-wage-theft-0810-biz-20160809-story.html) that two employees of a Dunkin' Donuts franchise in Chicago sued in May for wage theft. This summer saw a record wage theft settlement when 18 car wash workers from New Jersey and New York were awarded $1.65 million for denied pay and emotional distress.
Unfortunately, precisely because these workers are so often the Americans who lack a voice and social clout, the wage theft that gets reported and dealt with is just a small slice of the problem.
An in-depth study (https://nelp.3cdn.net/1797b93dd1ccdf9e7d_sdm6bc50n.pdf) in 2008 surveyed 4,387 workers in Chicago, Los Angeles, and New York. The sample was meant to be representative of the 1.64 million low-wage workers in those three cities. The numbers are astounding. Twenty-six percent of the workers in their sample were paid less than the minimum wage, and two-thirds of those were stiffed by more than $1 an hour. Seventy-six percent were not paid for overtime they worked the previous week — 11 hours of it, on average. Two-thirds were denied legally required meal breaks, and half of those who were injured and tried to claim workers compensation were subjected to some form of illegal retaliation.
Some industries, like construction and education, had relatively low rates of wage theft — 12 to 13 percent; restaurants, grocery stores, and warehouses fell in the mid-range of 20 to 25 percent; textile and clothes manufacturing and other services hit 40 percent; and a whopping 66 percent of child care workers endured minimum wage violations, and 90 percent put up with overtime violations.
Race and gender played big roles. Women saw minimum wage violations at significantly higher rates than men. Wage theft was three times higher for blacks than for whites, and highest of all for Latinos. Employees at smaller businesses were more at risk, as well as employees with less education — though wage theft happens often even to the college educated.
Total wage theft in just those three cities amounted to almost $3 billion annually. The Economic Policy Institute estimated (http://www.epi.org/publication/epidemic-wage-theft-costing-workers-hundreds/) that if the patterns the study found are generalizable for the entire country, wage theft is $50 billion a year.
The Department of Labor only has 1,000 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-need-more-investigators-to-sniff-out-wage-theft/2016/07/28/0db003fe-54f4-11e6-bbf5-957ad17b4385_story.html) to 1,100 (http://www.epi.org/publication/epidemic-wage-theft-costing-workers-hundreds/) staff members looking into violations of wage and hour laws for the entire country. The Obama administration has requested an increase in funding for enforcement at least three times, but Congress has denied them. Wage theft is usually (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/papa-johns-wage-theft-case_us_561fc478e4b050c6c4a4854b) treated (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/catherine-rampell-punish-wage-theft-as-severely-as-robbery/2014/04/17/234bf84a-c648-11e3-9f37-7ce307c56815_story.html) as a civil matter or dealt with by fines, and employers very rarely go to jail for it — a Papa John's franchise owner made headlines (http://m.usw.org/blog/2015/wage-theft-is-crime-deserves-jail-time) in 2015 when he was sentenced to a mere 60 days.
Compare that to the thousands (http://theweek.com/articles/617341/americas-pathetic-inability-punish-powerful) of poor and non-white Americans who spend months, years, or even their entire lives in prison for petty theft or drug possession.
Prosecutors and labor groups seem to be getting (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/01/business/more-workers-are-claiming-wage-theft.html) more aggressive about pursuing wage theft. And several senators are pushing a bill (http://www.help.senate.gov/ranking/newsroom/press/murray-brown-delauro-introduce-bill-to-stop-wage-theft-boost-workers-economic-security) to increase staffing and funding to go after wage theft, and to crank up penalties, regulations, and recovery of back pay.
But for now the consequences remain paltry. And the crime spree continues.
Editor's note: A previous version of this article misstated a legal category. It has since been corrected. We regret the error.
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Quote from: Father Jape on 28-08-2016, 09:39:02
https://twitter.com/Sarah_Smarsh/status/769662009700868096
ovo je gore od onih belih majica koje je Kanje Vest dizajnirao.
The White House is planning to let more foreign entrepreneurs work in the U.S. (http://www.recode.net/2016/8/26/12652892/white-house-startup-visa)
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The move, which won't require congressional approval, allows people to stay up to five years, provided their startup has significant U.S. investment. It could soon get a lot easier for foreigners to come to the U.S. to grow their startup.
After failing to get Congress to pass a "startup visa" as part of broad immigration reform, the Obama administration is moving ahead with an alternative that would allow overseas entrepreneurs to live in the U.S. for up to five years to help build a company.
Under a federal rule being formally proposed on Friday, the Department of Homeland Security would be empowered to use its existing authority to allow entrepreneurs to legally work in the country for two years, possibly followed by a one-time three-year extension. While the public will have 45 days to comment, the rules aren't subject to congressional approval.
Already speaking out in favor of the new rules is PayPal co-founder Max Levchin, who moved to the U.S. from the Soviet Union in 1991.
"I believe that the most promising entrepreneurs from around the world should have the same opportunity I had — the chance to deliver on their potential, here in America," Levchin said in an email released by the White House.
To be eligible to work in the U.S. under the new rule, the foreigner would have to own at least 15 percent of a U.S.-based startup, have a central role in its operations and have "potential for rapid business growth and job creation."
That last qualification could be satisfied by having at least $100,000 in government grants or at least $345,000 in investment from U.S. investors with a track record of backing successful companies. Those who partially satisfy those requirements could still be allowed in with additional evidence of the company's growth potential.
The change to federal law follows a separate move by financial processing firm Stripe that lets startups incorporate in the U.S. while employees remain based overseas (http://www.recode.net/2016/2/24/11588194/stripes-atlas-service-lets-foreign-businesses-incorporate-in-u-s-open). That program, still in beta, was designed to make it easier for foreign startups to get capital by being based in the U.S.
The move also comes amid a continued debate over what broader changes should be made to immigration law — a dialogue that has stalled amid partisan differences. Creating a "startup visa" was part of the administration's immigration reform bill which passed the Senate in 2014.
"While there is no substitute for legislation, the administration is taking the steps it can within existing legal authorities to fix as much of our broken immigration system as possible," administration officials wrote in a blog post.
Članak je star tri godine ali nema veze:
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/12/jaron_lanier_the_internet_destroyed_the_middle_class/
Pamela Anderson Warns in Op-Ed That Porn 'Is a Public Hazard of Unprecedented Seriousness' (https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/pamela-anderson-warns-op-ed-035409384.html)
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Pamela Anderson (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrities/pam-anderson?utm_source=yahoocelebrity&utm_medium=referral) is taking a stance. The former Playboy model, 49, teamed up with Rabbi Schmuley Boteach to pen an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal (http://www.wsj.com/articles/take-the-pledge-no-more-indulging-porn-1472684658) to warn about the "addictive dangers of pornography" on Wednesday, August 31.
PHOTOS: Sexiest Magazine Covers of All Time (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/sexiest-magazine-covers-of-all-time-w430714?utm_source=yahoocelebrity&utm_medium=referral)
In it, the two argue that porn has a "corrosive effect on a man's soul and on his ability to function as a husband, and by extension, as father."
"This is a public hazard of unprecedented seriousness given how freely available, anonymously accessible and easily disseminated pornography is nowadays," the pair continued. "How many families will suffer? How many marriages will implode? How many talented men will scrap their most important relationships and careers for a brief onanistic thrill?"
The opinion piece comes just days after disgraced former congressman Anthony Weiner was caught in yet another sexting scandal (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/anthony-weiner-huma-abedin-split-after-new-sexting-scandal-w436799?utm_source=yahoocelebrity&utm_medium=referral). His wife, Huma Abedin — who works on Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's campaign and with whom he shares a young son — then announced on Monday, August 29, that she was separating from her husband of six years.
PHOTOS: Stars Go Nude on Twitter and Instagram (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/stars-go-nude-on-twitterinstagram-2013128?utm_source=yahoocelebrity&utm_medium=referral)
"If anyone still doubted the devastation that porn addiction wreaks on those closest to the addict, behold the now-shattered marriage of Mr. Weiner and Huma Abedin, a breakup that she initiated ... in shock at the disgraced ex-congressman's inclusion of their 4-year-old son in one lewd photo that he sent to a near-stranger," Anderson and Boteach wrote.
But the duo didn't end there. They also warned that children raised in the current digital environment will "become adults inured to intimacy and in need of even greater graphic stimulation. They are the crack babies of porn."
So how to address this? According to Anderson and Boteach, "We must educate ourselves and our children to understand that porn is for losers — a boring, wasteful and dead-end outlet for people too lazy to rep the ample rewards of healthy sexuality."
PHOTOS: '90s Sitcom and TV Stars, Then & Now (http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/pictures/90s-sitcom-and-tv-stars-then-now-w200796?utm_source=yahoocelebrity&utm_medium=referral)
The Canadian actress — who will next appear in the film version of Baywatch, the hit '90s show that launched her to stardom — is no stranger to adult material. In addition to posing for a total of 14 Playboy covers (including the magazine's January/February 2016 issue, its final nude issue), she also did a nude photo shoot for Paper's Girls Girls Girls issue this year to promote her collection of cruelty-free shoes. And in 1995, her private sex tape with then-husband Tommy Lee, which was made on their honeymoon, was stolen and leaked.
Reports of Creepy Clowns Spread to More Cities: 'It Is Not Funny,' Police Say (https://www.yahoo.com/news/reports-creepy-clowns-spread-more-194145243.html)
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There have been reports of more clowns in more cities (http://www.people.com/article/clowns-reported-luring-kids-apartment-greenville-south-carolina) spotted lurking in the woods.
In the past month, police in the Carolinas have received multiple reports (http://www.people.com/article/south-carolina-police-chief-says-clowning-around-needs-to-stop) from people claiming clowns with white-painted faces were acting strangely in the area – at least once attempting to lure kids into the woods with money.
The reports have fueled speculation that the sightings could be a hoax, or possibly even morbid fans trying to promote the 2017 movie release of Stephen King's It, about an evil clown known as Pennywise that terrorized a group of young boys.
One local TV station wondered if Rob Zombie's upcoming film, about a group of kidnapped carnival workers, might be involved in guerrilla marketing – but the distributor said they were not (http://www.wyff4.com/news/Film-company-comments-on-creepy-clown-sightings/41550004).
"If this is a hoax or publicity stunt it is not funny," Greensboro police spokeswoman Susan Danielsen tells PEOPLE. "It is alarming to the public and a drain on police resources. We just don't know at this point, because we haven't had the chance to interview any clowns."
The latest sighting occurred on Tuesday, when a man brandishing a machete chased a clown into the woods near an apartment complex in Greensboro, North Carolina, police said.
The person, who was wearing a scary clown mask, red curly wig, yellow dotted shirt, blue clown pants and clown shoes, ran back into the woods and disappeared from view, according to police.
"We don't know why he was there or what he was doing there," Danielsen says. She says officers scoured the area, but couldn't find anyone.
While it's not illegal to dress as a clown in Greensboro, Danielsen says the city has an ordinance that prohibits people from wearing a mask within city limits.
The police department, she says, is also discouraging "copycat behavior."
In August, several residents at an apartment complex in Greenville, South Carolina (http://www.people.com/article/clowns-reported-luring-kids-apartment-greenville-south-carolina), reported seeing clowns lurking in the nearby woods.
According to a Greenville County Sheriff's Office incident report obtained by PEOPLE, a deputy spoke to a woman on Aug. 21 who claimed her son had seen clowns in the woods, whispering and making noises, and when she went over to check, she saw several clowns flashing green laser lights in the woods before they ran off.
Another resident told the deputy that she'd been walking home to her apartment hours before, at 2:30 a.m., and saw a "large-figured clown with a blinking nose, standing under a post light near the garbage dumpster area," according to the incident report.
According to the report, several children also told the deputy that clowns had approached them behind one of the apartment buildings and tried to lure them into the woods "by displaying large amounts of money."
"There has been a couple of people that have seen them," Master Deputy Drew Pinciaro of the Greenville County Sheriff's Office told PEOPLE in an earlier interview. "Mainly it has been children who have reported they have seen these clowns in the woods. Every time we have gone out there we have not seen any clowns."
The children said the clowns lived in a house near a pond at the end of a hiking trail, according to the report. The deputy found the house, but "there were no signs of suspicious activity or characters dressed in clown attire," according to the report.
Greenville Police Chief Ken Miller said last week (http://www.people.com/article/south-carolina-police-chief-says-clowning-around-needs-to-stop) that "the clowning around needs to stop."
"It's illegal, it's dangerous, it's inappropriate, it's creating community concern," he said.
Miller said the reported clown sightings have included various descriptions, with differences in both race and costume, and that at that point police had found no evidence supporting the sightings.
Days later, on Sept. 4, residents in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, reportedly saw a clown attempting to entice kids into the woods with treats, the Associated Press (http://www.wsoctv.com/news/south-carolina/winstonsalem-police-increase-patrols-after-clown-sightings_/437385885) reports.
Police said two children saw the clown, and an adult heard the clown, according to the news agency.
Police responded to the area but found no signs of the creepy character, who was seen wearing white overalls, white gloves, red shoes with red bushy hair, a white face and a red nose, according to the AP.
Praksa otpuštanja IT profesionalaca i zamena istih indijskom radnom snagom (koju otpušteni još treba i da obuče) polako prodire i u javni sektor:
University of California hires India-based IT outsourcer, lays off tech workers (http://www.computerworld.com/article/3117602/it-outsourcing/university-of-california-to-send-some-it-jobs-to-india.html?nsdr=true)
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5,300 Wells Fargo employees fired over 2 million phony accounts (http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/08/investing/wells-fargo-created-phony-accounts-bank-fees/index.html)
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Everyone hates paying bank fees. But imagine paying fees on a ghost account you didn't even sign up for.
That's exactly what happened to Wells Fargo customers nationwide.
On Thursday, federal regulators said Wells Fargo (WFC (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=WFC&source=story_quote_link)) employees secretly created millions of unauthorized bank and credit card accounts -- without their customers knowing it -- since 2011.
The phony accounts earned the bank unwarranted fees and allowed Wells Fargo employees to boost their sales figures and make more money.
"Wells Fargo employees secretly opened unauthorized accounts to hit sales targets and receive bonuses," Richard Cordray, director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, said in a statement.
Wells Fargo confirmed to CNNMoney that it had fired 5,300 employees over the last few years related to the shady behavior. Employees went so far as to create phony PIN numbers and fake email addresses to enroll customers in online banking services, the CFPB said.
Related: Who owns Wells Fargo? You, me and Warren Buffett
The scope of the scandal is shocking. An analysis conducted by a consulting firm hired by Wells Fargo concluded that bank employees opened over 1.5 million deposit accounts that may not have been authorized.
The way it worked was that employees moved funds from customers' existing accounts into newly-created ones without their knowledge or consent, regulators say. The CFPB described this practice as "widespread." Customers were being charged for insufficient funds or overdraft fees -- because there wasn't enough money in their original accounts.
Additionally, Wells Fargo employees also submitted applications for 565,443 credit card accounts without their customers' knowledge or consent. Roughly 14,000 of those accounts incurred over $400,000 in fees, including annual fees, interest charges and overdraft-protection fees.
The CFPB said Wells Fargo will pay "full restitutions to all victims."
Related: ATM and overdraft fees top $6 billion at the big 3 banks
Wells Fargo is being slapped with the largest penalty since the CFPB was founded in 2011. The bank agreed to pay $185 million in fines, along with $5 million to refund customers.
"We regret and take responsibility for any instances where customers may have received a product that they did not request," Wells Fargo said in a statement.
Wells Fargo has the highest market valuation among any bank in America, worth just north of $250 billion. Berkshire Hathaway (BRKA (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=BRKA&source=story_quote_link)), the investment firm run legendary investor Warren Buffett, is the company's biggest shareholder.
Of the total fines, $100 million will go toward the CFPB's Civil Penalty Fund, $35 million will go to the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, and another $50 million will be paid to the City and County of Los Angeles.
"One wonders whether (the CFPB) penalty of $100 million is enough," said David Vladeck, a Georgetown University law professor and former director of the Federal Trade Commission's Bureau of Consumer Protection. "It sounds like a big number, but for a bank the size of Wells Fargo, it isn't really."
Wells Fargo confirmed to CNNMoney that the 5,300 firings took place over several years. The bank listed (https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/72971/000007297116001045/wfc-12312015xex13.htm) 265,000 employees as of the end of 2015.
Related: Barclays fined $109 million for trying to hide a deal with rich clients
"At Wells Fargo, when we make mistakes, we are open about it, we take responsibility, and we take action," the bank said in a memo to employees on Thursday.
The CFPB declined to comment on when the investigation began and what sparked it, citing agency policy. "We don't comment on how we uncover these matters," a spokesman said.
As part of the settlement, Wells Fargo needs to make changes to its sales practices and internal oversight.
Customers are fuming. Brian Kennedy, a Maryland retiree, told CNNMoney he detected an unauthorized Wells Fargo account had been created in his name about a year ago. He asked Wells Fargo about it and the bank closed it, he said.
"I didn't sign up for any bloody checking account," Kennedy, who is 57 years old, told CNNMoney. "They lost me as a banking customer and I have warned family and friends."
"Consumers must be able to trust their banks," said Mike Feuer, the Los Angeles City Attorney who joined the settlement.
Feuer's office sued Wells Fargo in May 2015 over allegations of unauthorized accounts. After filing the suit, his office received more than 1,000 calls and emails from customers as well as current and former Wells Fargo employees about the allegations.
Wells Fargo declined to say when it hired a consulting firm to investigate the allegations. However, a person familiar with the matter told CNNMoney the bank launched the review after the L.A. lawsuit was filed.
Even though the Wells Fargo scandal took place nationally, the settlement with L.A. requires the bank to specifically alert all its California customers to review their accounts and shut down ones they don't recognize or want.
"How does a bank that is supposed to have robust internal controls permit the creation of over a half-million dummy accounts?" asked Vladeck. "If I were a Wells Fargo customer, and fortunately I am not, I'd think seriously about finding a new bank."
--To reach the author of this article email Matt.Egan@cnn.com (matt.egan@cnn.com)
Ja ovo po inerciji ovde (premda dva Britanca razgovaraju), jer... beše nemamo temu o ekonomskoj krizi?
http://www.lrb.co.uk/2016/08/18/john-lanchester/video-john-lanchester-talks-to-george-monbiot
Watch A Mob Of Yale Students Bully A Professor They Say Hurt Their Feelings (http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/15/watch-a-mob-of-yale-students-bully-a-professor-who-hurt-their-feelings/)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 16-09-2016, 05:42:30
Watch A Mob Of Yale Students Bully A Professor They Say Hurt Their Feelings (http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/15/watch-a-mob-of-yale-students-bully-a-professor-who-hurt-their-feelings/)
Ovi studenti debil do debila....
Eksplozivna naprava postavljena u Njujorku povredila 29 osoba ali gradonačelnik kaže da bi se reklo da to "nema veze sa terorizmom". What
Explosion That Injured at Least 29 an 'Intentional Act,' New York City Mayor Says (https://gma.yahoo.com/least-26-reported-injured-explosion-york-city-025721263--abc-news-topstories.html)
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An explosion in New York City's Chelsea neighborhood injured at least 29 people, according to city officials, and a possible second device was located several blocks away.
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said investigators believe it was an intentional act, but said there appeared to be no link to terrorism.
The explosion was reported shortly before 9 p.m. on 23rd Street between Sixth and Seventh avenues, according to police.
A source said authorities have already reviewed surveillance video showing the explosion in or near a garbage receptacle, and they are scrubbing it for clues.
Two law enforcement sources said the explosion occurred in a dumpster, and the NYPD (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/new-york-city-police-department.htm) Counterterrorism Bureau tweeted a photo of a mangled dumpster, after tweeting that they were responding to an explosion at West 23rd Street and Sixth Avenue.
The New York Police Department Bomb Squad was searching the area, checking garbage cans, for any other possible explosive devices.
The NYPD Special Operations Division tweeted at around 11 p.m. that a "possible secondary device" was located at 27th Street.
A White House official said President Obama had been briefed on the situation, and would receive updates as the investigation continued.
This is a developing story. Check back for more.
Officer Kills Unarmed Black Man Having a Seizure (https://www.yahoo.com/news/officer-kills-unarmed-black-man-192830662.html)
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An unarmed black man repeatedly shot by police in a San Diego, California, suburb has died from his injuries after being taken to a local hospital.
According to NBC (http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/El-Cajon-Officer-Involved-Shooting-Update-395046211.html), 30-year-old Alfred Olango was wandering into traffic and "not acting like himself" when his sister decided to call 911 to ask for help. When an officer arrived on the scene, Olango reportedly "failed" to follow directives, and the officer drew his firearm. Another officer then arrived as backup.
"The male subject paced back and forth while the officers tried to talk to him," El Cajon Police Chief Jeff Davis said at a news conference, according to ABC-10 (http://www.10news.com/news/officer-involved-shooting-in-el-cajon?autoplay=true). "At one point, the male rapidly drew an object from his front pants pocket, placed both hands together on it, extended it rapidly towards the officer, taking what appeared to be a shooting stance, putting the object in the officer's face."
This prompted one of the officers to open fire while the other officer attempted to subdue him with a stun gun. Witnesses reported hearing as many as five gunshots (http://www.cbs8.com/story/33263857/officer-involved-shooting-reported-in-el-cajon), although police have refused to confirm this number.
Witnesses have also said that, contrary to Chief Davis's claims, Olango was empty-handed when police shot him, and that he put his hands in the air when the officers drew their weapons. Others claimed that the man was "mentally challenged" and suffering from a seizure (http://www.cbs8.com/story/33263857/officer-involved-shooting-reported-in-el-cajon) prior to the shooting - something his sister appeared to confirm in a Facebook Live video.
"I called for help, I didn't call for you guys to kill him!" Olango's sister said, according to NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/california-police-shoot-man-witnesses-unarmed-article-1.2809204). "Oh my God, you killed my brother ... Why couldn't you Tase him? I told them he's sick."
NBC (http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/El-Cajon-Officer-Involved-Shooting-Update-395046211.html) reports that a witness has "voluntarily provided" cell phone footage of the shooting to help police with their investigation, and that the two officers involved have been put on administrative leave.
However, shortly after the shooting, many were quick to take to social media to express their outrage, fear, and heartache over the news that another unarmed black person had been killed at the hands of police. Olango's death comes just days after the killing of Keith Lamont Scott in Charlotte, North Carolina, and Terence Crutcher in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and countless others this year alone.
Additional reporting from the Associated Press.
Džon Oliver objašnjava problem s policijom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaD84DTGULo
Pre sto godina heroin se kupovao u apoteci i reklamirao kao perfektno sredstvo da se hiperaktivna deca malko smire. Danas, kad ovako nešto pročitamo, stresemo se....
Parents Allegedly Injected Kids with Heroin — as 'Feel Good Medicine' — to Make Them Sleep (https://www.yahoo.com/news/parents-allegedly-injected-kids-heroin-174742913.html)
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A 6-year-old Washington boy and his younger sisters were regularly injected by their parents with heroin — their "medicine" — in order to make them fall asleep, prosecutors allege.
Both parents have been charged, authorities said, and the children have been removed from their care.
Ashlee Rose Hutt, 24, and her 25-year-old boyfriend, Leroy McIver, allegedly referred to the illicit street drug as "feel good medicine" while administering it to their kids — ages 6, 4 and 2 — Pierce County prosecutors said in a statement.
Hutt was charged earlier this week with three counts of criminal mistreatment in the second degree, three counts of assault of a child in the second degree and three counts of unlawful delivery of a controlled substance to a person under 18, according to the prosecutor's statement.
She is being held on $100,000 bail, according to police.
McIver was charged with the same crimes in September, according to the statement; and he, too, remains in police custody — though it was unclear Wednesday what amount had been set for his bail.
Hutt and McIver have pleaded not guilty to their charges, according to court records and KIRO7 (https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/spanaway-mother-accused-of-injecting-heroin-into-children-calling-it-sleep-juice/462531797). Their attorneys did not immediately respond to calls seeking comment.
The prosecutor's statement, which was obtained by PEOPLE, reveals an investigation into both Hutt and McIver began in November 2015, when the couple's three children were removed from their Spanaway, Washington, home by child welfare investigators. (Reports conflict about whether McIver is the biological father of all three children.)
The kids are in foster care and "doing well," a Pierce County sheriff's spokesman told KIRO7.
The state's child protective services agency visited the couple's home and allegedly discovered that "multiple individuals lived at the residence and everyone was using heroin," according to prosecutors.
Rat droppings and drug needles were also found at the home, according to KIRO7, citing court documents.
"They made a determination that abuse and neglect of the children had occurred," prosecutors said. "They noted marks, cuts, and bruises on one of the children's bodies. They also noted the bruises appeared to be injection marks with bruising."
The oldest of the three children told police McIver has allegedly "choked" him and his siblings "on more than one occasion," and he alleged "his mom and dad give him and his sisters the 'feel good medicine,' which he described as a white powder mixed with water."
His parents, the boy told investigators, allegedly "used a needle to inject the 'feel good medicine' into him and his sisters and the medicine put them to sleep."
Tests performed by the Washington State Patrol Crime Lab supported the child's claims, according to prosecutors. Hair follicles from the 2-year-old girl tested positive for heroin, and the 4-year-old girl also showed signs of heroin in her system — but the level did not meet the threshold for a positive test.
The boy tested negative for drugs.
The statement alleges both Hutt and McIver admitted to being heroin users under police questioning.
Da ne pominjem ovo:
Man Found Living with 12 Girls Allegedly 'Groomed' Them to Think He Was a Prophet (https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-found-living-12-girls-234957371.html)
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While Lee Kaplan lived with 12 girls in his Pennsylvania home (https://people.com/crime/lee-kaplan-case-mother-of-girls-found-home-lived-with-them-and-alleged-captor/), authorities say, he allegedly brainwashed them to believe he was a prophet of God — grooming several of them for sex and calling six of them his "wives."
Prosecutors this week revealed these and other harrowing details of the girls' years of alleged mental and sexual abuse, as the investigation of Kaplan continues and he faces multiplying charges.
"This guy set up a virtual feeding ground of victims," Bucks County District Attorney Matthew Weintraub tells PEOPLE. "He preyed upon one by one."
Kaplan, who was charged with sex crimes (https://people.com/crime/lee-kaplan-arrest-of-pennsylvania-man-living-with-12-girls-shocks-neighbors/) after police rescued the girls from his home in June, is now accused of not only fathering two children with the eldest of the girls but also sexually abusing five of her younger sisters, Weintraub announced on Monday.
That same day Kaplan pleaded not guilty to more than a dozen new charges, including rape of a child, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse and indecent assault, Weintraub says.
"He took these children into his home not too far from where we stand here today," Weintraub alleged at a news conference. "Over time he played on their trust and affection for him. He groomed them to believed that he was a religious, cult-like figure for whom they should submit their will."
Weintraub tells PEOPLE that Kaplan allegedly brainwashed the girls, using tactics similar to Stockholm syndrome, by taking advantage of their innocence and abusing his position of authority.
"They to accept it," Weintraub says. "I'm saddened. I'm sickened, but I'm not surprised."
Kaplan, 51, was originally charged with statutory sexual assault, unlawful contact with a minor and aggravated indecent assault after authorities rescued the girls, who ranged in age from six months to 18 years old, from his home in Feasterville, Pennsylvania. (Authorities were tipped off anonymously.)
After Kaplan's arrest, the eldest of the girls told investigators she was 14 when her parents handed her over to Kaplan after he helped them financially. She told police she and Kaplan have two children together: a 3 year-old girl and a 10-month-old infant.
The eldest girl also said that years before moving into his home, Kaplan had his own bedroom in her parents' Lancaster County home in Pennsylvania. She alleged that the sexual abuse started one night when she was 10. It didn't stop until her rescue this summer.
Nine of the 11 other girls living in Kaplan's home were her sisters (https://people.com/crime/lee-kaplan-case-girls-allegedly-rescued-from-home-believed-to-be-related/), according to authorities; the remaining two were her daughters.
Newly released court documents obtained by PEOPLE show the sisters, who were quiet during initial interviews, recently opened up to investigators about their years of living with Kaplan.
Authorities had been unsure if he had harmed any of the 11 other girls, but six of the sisters, including the eldest, told police they were Kaplan's "wives," according to the documents.
The youngest is 10.
The girls said in their interviews that Kaplan claimed he had "dreams" about them becoming his wives. "Kaplan felt it was in the children's best interests to become his wives," according to the documents.
The girls' every day life remains a mystery, Weintraub tells PEOPLE. They were sometimes spotted by neighbors playing in the front yard, dressed in traditional Amish attire, but no one ever saw how they spent their time inside the three-bedroom home.
According to the police interviews, however, multiple girls alleged they were routinely abused.
"They were not only hearing from him but from their parents," Weintraub alleges, noting that the girls' mother, Savilla Stoltzfus, is believed to have been living (https://people.com/crime/lee-kaplan-case-mother-of-girls-found-home-lived-with-them-and-alleged-captor/) with her daughters and Kaplan during the abuse.
A 'Cultural Interpretation Problem'? The girls' story gained national attention after authorities announced the couple's alleged "gifting" of their eldest daughter to Kaplan.
The Stoltzfuses, who have been charged with child endangerment, told authorities their eldest daughter was set to wed Kaplan, a former business partner and family friend. The family lives in an Amish community in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
(The father, Daniel Stoltzfus, had been "shunned" by the Amish by the time of his relationship with Kaplan, prosecutors previously told PEOPLE.)
Kaplan's arrest affidavit alleges the Stoltzfuses "gifted" their daughter to him in exchange for financial benefits, but Savilla's attorney, Craig Penglase, previously told (https://people.com/crime/lawyer-defends-amish-mom-accused-of-gifting-teen-daughter/) PEOPLE that the language has been misconstrued.
Penglase compared the agreement the couple had with Kaplan to the common wedding ceremonial tradition of the bride's father giving his daughter away to the groom.
"That's what meant when they said that to the police," Penglase said. "It's an interpretation problem. It's a cultural interpretation problem."
According to Penglase, the couple had no idea their daughter and Kaplan were sexually involved. He said Savilla only learned about her daughter's alleged sexual abuse by Kaplan when she learned about the pregnancy.
Soon after the baby was born, Savilla moved into Kaplan's home with her nine other daughters, Penglase told PEOPLE.
Police have said there were a number of complaints regarding Kaplan in the months leading up to his arrest, but nothing warranting an arrest.
Attorneys for Kaplan and the Stoltzfuses could not be reached for comment about the new charges and accusations. (Kaplan's attorney has previously declined to comment.)
All three defendants were set to appear in court the week of Nov. 7, but their hearings have been postponed, court officials tell PEOPLE.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/31/the-podesta-emails-show-who-runs-america-and-how-they-do-it
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Uber drivers demand higher pay in nationwide protest (https://www.cnet.com/news/uber-drivers-demand-better-pay-in-nation-wide-protest/?linkId=31694564)
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Uber drivers will join forces with fast food, home care and airport workers in a nationwide protest on Tuesday. Their demand: higher pay.
Under the banner of the "Day of Disruption," drivers for the ride-hailing company in two dozen cities, including Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles and San Francisco, will march at airports and in shopping areas carrying signs that read, "Your Uber Driver is Arriving Striking."
The protest underscores the dilemma Uber faces as it balances the needs of its drivers with its business. Valued at $68 billion, Uber is the highest-valued venture-backed company worldwide. But as it has cut the cost of rides to compete with traditional taxi services, Uber reportedly has experienced trouble (http://www.zdnet.com/article/uber-suffers-1-2b-half-year-loss-report/) turning a profit.
Uber doesn't consider its drivers employees, instead the company classifies them as independent contractors. This classification means the company isn't responsible for many costs (https://www.cnet.com/news/ubers-proposed-100m-settlement-of-driver-lawsuit-rejected/), including health insurance, paid sick days, gas, car maintenance and much more. However, Uber still sets drivers' rates and the commission it pays itself, which ranges between 20 percent and 30 percent.
"I'd like a fair day's pay for my hard work," Adam Shahim, a 40-year-old driver from Pittsburgh, California, said in a statement. "So I'm joining with the fast-food, airport, home care, child care and higher education workers who are leading the way and showing the country how to build an economy that works for everyone, not just the few at the top."
The protests are being organized by the "Fight for $15" campaign, which has led dozens of strikes (http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/nationwide-protests-for-15-an-hour/) against companies to demand a minimum wage of $15 per hour and the right to unionize. The campaign has helped convince several companies, such as Facebook, Aetna and JP Morgan Chase, to raise pay to $15 per hour or higher for all employees.
"The Fight for $15 has become central to reversing the huge gap between the ultra-wealthy and the rest of us," said Rebecca Smith, deputy director of National Employment Law Project. "And Uber has become a symbol of the kinds of low-wage, no-benefit jobs that exacerbate that gap."
Uber has said that drivers can make up to $30 per hour, but most drivers say they make far below that number. A November study (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1s08BdVqCgrZWZkV0ZfZnhGUGc/view) by Jonathan Hall, an Uber employee and shareholder, says that Uber drivers make on average $20.19 per hour. But in urban areas, like Detroit, Houston and Denver, drivers make less than $13.25 per hour on average, according to a June report (https://www.buzzfeed.com/carolineodonovan/internal-uber-driver-pay-numbers?utm_term=.uug8RJPzq#.sqYGQ8nLY) by Buzzfeed News.
Over the past few years, Uber drivers have staged various protests against the company. At times they've rallied against price cuts (https://www.cnet.com/news/ubers-cheaper-rates-good-for-you-but-some-drivers-hate-them/) that affected their wages and on other occasions they've demanded to be classified as employees.
In April, Uber settled two similar class action lawsuits (https://www.cnet.com/news/uber-drivers-to-remain-independent-contractors-under-settlement/) that involved roughly 385,000 drivers who wanted to be classified as employees. Under the settlement agreement, Uber was allowed to continue classifying its drivers as independent contractors but had to pay $100 million to the drivers involved in the suit. However, a federal judge rejected the proposed settlement (https://www.cnet.com/news/ubers-proposed-100m-settlement-of-driver-lawsuit-rejected/) in August, calling the offer unfair, inadequate and unreasonable.
Uber declined to comment on Tuesday's protests.
Fight for $15 expects tens of thousands of people to participate in the demonstrations, which is scheduled to kick off at 6 a.m. and last all day.
Life Expectancy In U.S. Drops For First Time In Decades, Report Finds (http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/12/08/504667607/life-expectancy-in-u-s-drops-for-first-time-in-decades-report-finds)
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One of the fundamental ways scientists measure the well-being of a nation is tracking the rate at which its citizens die and how long they can be expected to live.
So the news out of the federal government Thursday is disturbing: The overall U.S. death rate has increased for the first time in a decade, according to an analysis (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db267.htm) of the latest data. And that led to a drop in overall life expectancy for the first time since 1993, particularly among people younger than 65.
"This is a big deal," says Philip Morgan (http://www.cpc.unc.edu/people/fellows/bio?person=morganp), a demographer at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill who was not involved in the new analysis.
"There's not a better indicator of well-being than life expectancy," he says. "The fact that it's leveling off in the U.S. is a striking finding."
Now, there's a chance that the latest data, from 2015, could be just a one-time blip. In fact, a preliminary analysis from the first two quarters of 2016 suggests that may be the case, says Robert Anderson, chief of the mortality statistics branch at the National Center for Health Statistics (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/), which released the new report.
Anderson says government analysts are awaiting more data before reaching any definitive conclusions.
"We'll have to see what happens in the second half of 2016," he says.
Still, he believes the data from 2015 are worth paying attention to. Over that year, the overall death rate increased from 724.6 per 100,000 people to 733.1 per 100,000.
While that's not a lot, it was enough to cause the overall life expectancy to fall slightly. That's only happened a few times in the past 50 years. The dip in 1993, for example, was due to high death rates from AIDS, flu, homicide and accidental deaths that year.
On average, the overall life expectancy, for someone born in 2015, fell from 78.9 years to 78.8 years. The life expectancy for the average American man fell two-tenths of a year — from 76.5 to 76.3. For women, it dropped one-tenth — from 81.3 to 81.2 years.
"It's remarkable," Morgan says. "There are lots of things about this that are unexpected."
Most notably, the overall death rate for Americans increased because mortality from heart disease and stroke increased after declining for years. Deaths were also up from Alzheimer's disease, respiratory disease, kidney disease and diabetes. More Americans also died from unintentional injuries and suicide. In all, the decline was driven by increases in deaths from eight of the top 10 leading causes of death in the U.S.
"When you see increases in so many of the leading causes of death, it's difficult to pinpoint one particular cause as the culprit," Anderson says.
The obesity epidemic could be playing a role in the increase in deaths from heart disease, strokes, diabetes and possibly Alzheimer's. It could also be that doctors have reached the limit of what they can do to fight heart disease with current treatments.
The epidemic of prescription opioid painkillers and heroin abuse is probably fueling the increase in unintentional injuries, Arun Hendi (https://www.pop.upenn.edu/bio/arun-hendi), a demographer at Duke University, wrote in an email. The rise in drug abuse and suicide could be due to economic factors causing despair.
"Clearly, that could be related to the economic circumstances that many Americans have experienced in the last eight years, or so, since the recession," says Irma Elo (https://sociology.sas.upenn.edu/irma_elo), a sociologist at the University of Pennsylvania.
Whatever the cause, the trend is concerning, especially when the death rate is continuing to drop and life expectancy is still on the rise in most other industrialized countries.
"It's pretty grim," says Anne Case (https://www.princeton.edu/~accase/), an economist at Princeton University studying the relationship between economics and health.
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Obama: Tramp huškao Ruse da hakuju mejlove Klintonove
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Ameri su u panici čim se ispostavi da postoji i drugo mišljenje. Mnogo im je lepo kad postoji samo njihovo.
Na ivici? Ma kakvi, oni su tu ivicu već prešli. Čim su sebi dozvolili politićku korektnost.
A ovo što su našli Amerske generale/instruktore po Alepu zajedno sa teroristima?!
To Obamvučić nema komentar?!?!
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Newt Gingrich warns of major actions during President Obama's final weeks in office (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/newt-gingrich-warns-of-major-actions-during-president-obamas-final-weeks-in-office/)
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Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich warned that President Obama could use his final weeks in office to take major actions that will be difficult for President-elect Donald Trump to undo, saying Mr. Obama is in a "desperate frenzy" to protect his legacy.
"His legacy is like one of those dolls that, as the air comes out of it, shrinks and shrink and shrinks," Gingrich told Fox News on Sunday. "The things he's done this week will be turned around ... He's in this desperate frenzy."
In recent days, Mr. Obama has issued the most pardons on a single day in U.S. history, banned oil drilling (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arctic-atlantic-drilling-obama-ban-permanent/) across large parts of the Arctic and Atlantic, and scrapped a national registry (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-ends-registry-targeting-immigrant-men-mostly-muslim/) for immigrant men that mostly included Muslims.
Still, Gingrich said Mr. Trump will be able to quickly do away with many of Mr. Obama's signature policies and actions.
"I think in the opening couple days, he's going to repeal 60 to 70 percent of Obama's legacy by simply vetoing out all of the various executive orders that Obama used because he couldn't get anything through Congress," he said.
As president Mr. Trump will be able to cancel or override many of Mr. Obama's executive orders, and with a GOP-controlled Congress Mr. Trump will have the ability to push through a legislative agenda. However, things like dismantling the Affordable Care Act will likely prove difficult and take more time.
Mr. Obama nodded to that in a recent interview with NPR (http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/steve-inskeep-talks-about-his-interview-with-obama/): asked if he had advice for Mr. Trump, Mr. Obama suggested he use the legislative process rather than executive orders to get things done because "it's harder to undo."
Recimo da ste poštena, vredna američka porodica i da se radujete božiću jer, to je momenat u godini kada su svi zajedno, kada se ljubav daje i unaokolo deli. Recimo da ste kupili ćurku za tu priliku jer u Americi prasad ne jedu, bar ne u formi gde bi se prepoznalo da je to prase. recimo da ste je ispekli u rerni, izneli na astal, cela porodica se sprema da se ujedini oko njenog proždiranja a onda, kad krenete da je sečete, vidite da je iznutra zelena. :shock: Thanks, Obama!
Christmas dinner ruined for families thanks to GREEN Tesco turkeys (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/christmas-dinner-ruined-for-families-thanks-to-green-tesco-turkeys-101458008.html)
QuoteTesco has been accused of ruining Christmas, thanks to their off-colour turkeys.
Two families say their dreams of tucking into a tasty meat treat turned into a vomit-inducing nightmare thanks to dud turkeys purchased from the supermarket giant.
The green meat is thought to be caused by a degenerative muscle condition in turkeys commonly referred to as Green Muscle Disease, although it is not harmful.
It occurs after the inner breast muscle of the bird develops in a way that prevents blood supply from circulating, resulting in the green discolouration.
Shoppers had paid as much as £30 for the turkeys in Tesco, and took to social media to express their alarm at the off-colour product.
Mum-of-four Rachael James, 33, paid "about £23" for her frozen turkey from Tesco in Whitchurch, Shropshire, and was mortified to find green flesh when carving it on Christmas Day.
She said: "When I got it out of the packaging it seemed to be okay but once I had cooked it and started to carve it in front of everyone I noticed that there was something wrong with the centre of the turkey.
"It put everyone off their meal, none of us felt like we could eat any of the turkey. It ruined the meal completely.
"Tesco have offered a refund of the price of the turkey which I am unhappy about. I will never buy my turkey from Tesco again and will now consider going else where for my weekly shop.
"After everyone had gone home I investigated the green mass and discovered that it went from one side of the breast meat to the other. It was disgusting."
Steve Parsons, 26, and his partner Emma, 28, were enjoying Christmas lunch with 10 other family members including four children, at their home in Lyme Regis, Dorset.
Steve, who works as a window cleaner, said: "It put a downer on the whole day.
"Luckily one of my friends kindly had a joint of beef that we could use which meant the day wasn't completely ruined. My mother-in-law was basting the turkey all night."
The Christmas turkey was purchased for "around £30" from the superstore's branch in Seaton, Devon, two days before the big day.
Steve added: "The reaction of everyone around the dinner table was quite simply, 'yuck'. It didn't smell but it was really rubbery.
"Luckily Tesco have been good with their response and have given us a £75 gift voucher and two turkey crowns."
A Tesco spokesperson said: "There's nothing more important than the quality of the food we sell so we were concerned to hear this has happened.
"We've offered a refund to the customers affected and will inform our supplier."
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Evo nečeg da pospeši rasističke strahove. Užasno je:
18-Year-Old Tortured on Facebook Live (https://www.yahoo.com/news/18-old-tortured-facebook-live-165656190.html)
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Chicago police have charged four African Americans with hate crimes for an assault broadcast live on Facebook, during which the alleged attackers beat and tortured a young white man with special needs and hurled insults at him about white people and Donald Trump.
It's a tragic story and, given the prevalence of "fake" news stories, one that seems almost too strange - and terrible - to be true. But authorities in Chicago are treating it as a legitimate crime. Here's what we know so far:
The 18-year-old man, whom authorities said has "mental health challenges," was reported missing by his parents Monday, according to the Chicago Tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-trump-cursed-man-attacked-facebook-video-20170104-story.html). He had been dropped off at a McDonald's in suburban Chicago on Saturday, Dec. 31 to meet a friend, 18-year-old Jordan Hill, one of the people charged in the attack, whom he willingly spent time with starting on New Year's Eve. The victim's parents thought he was spending the night with friends.
As police in the Chicago suburb of Streamwood looked into the matter - the victim's parents were reportedly getting texts from someone claiming to hold their son captive - they discovered a Facebook Live video of the man being verbally and physically assaulted.
The 28-minute video, which was shared widely online, shows the victim with his mouth taped shut slumped in a corner as at least two assailants cut off his sweatshirt with a knife, as others taunt him off-camera. The video shows a bloody wound on the top of the man's head, and one person pushing the man's head with his or her foot. A red band also appears to be around the victim's hands. At one point he is forced to drink from a toilet.
Off-camera, people can be heard shouting, "Fuck Donald Trump" and "Fuck white people." Roughly halfway through the video, someone says the man "represents Trump," according to the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/01/05/4-in-custody-after-group-beats-disabled-man-on-facebook-live-while-shouting-anti-trump-profanities-chicago-police-say/?utm_term=.18b1b7724138), and threatens to put him in the trunk of a car.
The Chicago Police Department believes the video is "credible (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/01/05/4-in-custody-after-group-beats-disabled-man-on-facebook-live-while-shouting-anti-trump-profanities-chicago-police-say/?utm_term=.18b1b7724138)" and said Thursday that the victim was tied up in a corner for about four or five hours.
Shortly after suburban police discovered the video, authorities in Chicago contacted them to say they'd found the missing man wandering along a street. Chicago police were then called to a home near where they found the man and discovered signs of a struggle. Four people were taken into custody.
The victim was able to escape after a downstairs neighbor threatened to call police and two of the attackers retaliated by kicking in the neighbor's door.
Investigators said the victim was with his attackers, including the man he knew previously, Jordan Hill, for up to 48 hours. Hill had driven the victim around in a stolen van for a couple of days, police said, until they ended up at the home in Chicago.The victim was later hospitalized for undisclosed injuries and released, according to the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/04/us/chicago-racially-charged-attack-video.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fus&action=click&contentCollection=us®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront&_r=0).
"He's traumatized by the incident and it's very tough to communicate with him at this point," Chicago Police Commander Kevin Duffin said Wednesday.
The video of the torture is "sickening," according to Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson. "It makes you wonder what would make individuals treat somebody like that," he said.
White House press secretary Josh Earnest said the incident demonstrates "a level of depravity that is an outrage to a lot of Americans."
Why was the man kidnapped and tortured?Police identified the suspects on Thursday afternoon as Tesfaye Cooper, 18, Brittany Covington, 18, and Tanishia Covington, 24. All three are from Chicago. The fourth suspect, 18-year-old Jordan Hill, is from suburban Carpentersville, Illinois.
In addition to hate crimes, the four are charged with kidnapping, aggravated battery and aggravated unlawful restraint. Three were charged with burglary.Police had told The Associated Press that they didn't believe the suspect was targeted because he was white, despite what they called the "terrible racist comments" made in the video. Instead, they suggested he was targeted because of his special needs.
But during a press conference Thursday, Chicago police said there was never any doubt the incident would be investigated as a hate crime. They said the four black suspects face hate crime charges because they were shouting racial slurs at the victim and because they referred to his mental capacity. According to the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/01/05/4-in-custody-after-group-beats-disabled-man-on-facebook-live-while-shouting-anti-trump-profanities-chicago-police-say/?utm_term=.84067a0ccca2), it is considered a hate crime in Illinois to commit battery on someone due to race as well as physical or mentality ability.
A police spokesman had said it's possible the suspects were trying to extort something from the victim's family.
On social media, people blamed the attack on members of the Black Lives Movement. But there is no evidence to suggest this is actually the case, according to CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/05/us/chicago-facebook-live-beating/index.html?sr=twCNN010517chicago-facebook-live-beating0614PMVODtopLink&linkId=33058670).
The incident comes just days after Chicago experienced its deadliest year since 1997, with 762 murders recorded in the city, according to CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/02/us/chicago-murder-rate-2016-visual-guide/). That's more than what New York City and Los Angeles saw in 2016 combined. Both cities have larger populations than Chicago, which is the nation's third-largest city.
Roughly two-thirds of the murders took place in five police districts on the city's South and West sides, CNN reported. Those areas, according to the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/us/chicago-murder-rate-gun-deaths.html), are predominantly African-American and Hispanic. And the murders, the Times noted (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/22/us/chicago-gang-violence.html), are often the result of young gang members who are "bored, broke, and armed."
So far, 2017 hasn't seen any improvements: 28 people were shot in Chicago on the first day of January, according to NBC News (http://abcnews.go.com/US/chicagos-record-violence-spills-2017-28-shot-years/story?id=44532135). And President-elect Donald Trump said in a Jan. 2 tweet (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/815973752785793024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) that if Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel can't curb the city's violence then "he must ask for federal help."
With reporting from the Associated Press.
Republicans Will Finally Succeed in Defunding Planned Parenthood, Costing Millions of Women Basic Healthcare Services (https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/republicans-finally-succeed-defunding-planned-165944396.html)
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Today, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan announced (https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4641709/ryan-defunding-pp) that when Republicans repeal Obamacare later this month, they'll include a provision to defund Planned Parenthood.
The organization, which administers millions of cancer and STI and STD tests to women and some men, receives $500 million in federal government funds. The amount accounts (http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/08/05/429641062/fact-check-how-does-planned-parenthood-spend-that-government-money) for approximately 40 percent of its $1.3 billion in revenue, which NPR writes "suggests that the organization would be in some heavy financial trouble without that public funding."
It cannot be written or tweeted or said too many times: abortions account for around three percent of the services that Planned Parenthood provides. And moreover, federal money can't be used for abortions except in cases of rape, incest, or to protect the life of the mother. Which means that despite the fact that 2.5 million men and women visit Planned Parenthood to get an annual checkup, to screen for disease, to receive contraception, Republicans are still willing to put all that at risk because of how #onbrand it is for them to cut funds to the organization.
If you've been paying attention over the past few years, you know this isn't the first time they've tried to do it. They've threatened to strip Planned Parenthood of government funds dozens of times. And in 2015, Republicans successfully pushed a reconciliation bill-a bill that doesn't need to reach the usual 60-vote threshold to pass and can't be filibustered- in both houses. President Obama vetoed it, saving both his own healthcare law and Planned Parenthood. When he takes office next month, Trump is expected to approve it.
"Planned Parenthood legislation would be in our reconciliation bill," Ryan said during a press conference this afternoon. He didn't say more. Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards had more to add, responding via a press release to the news:
"Two and a half million women, men and young people come through our doors every year for lifesaving care like cancer screenings, birth control, and STI and STD tests," she said, "and they cannot afford to have basic reproductive health care attacked."
Nije što je moja bivša firma, ali stvarno mislim da bi ovo, ako se desi, bio necivilizacijski čin.
Nešto mi govori da ovo više pogađa nebijele žene. No, možda prećeruju s veličinom budžetskog reza.
Man who says he 'would be dead' without Obamacare confronts Paul Ryan on the law's repeal (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/man-says-dead-without-obamacare-145053873.html)
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Jeff Jeans, a cancer survivor who owns a small business in Arizona, confronted House Speaker Paul Ryan during a CNN town-hall event on Thursday night over the future of the Affordable Care Act, the healthcare law better known as Obamacare.
Jeans said he was a lifelong Republican who worked on the campaigns of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush and that he disliked the ACA when it was passed.
"Just like you, I was opposed to the Affordable Care Act," Jeans told Ryan. "When it was passed, I told my wife we would close our business before I complied with this law."
But then he said the law saved his life. Soon after it passed, he said, he learned he had cancer and was given six weeks to live. He said he was able to get insurance, which allowed him to receive treatment, through the Affordable Care Act.
"Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, I'm standing here today alive," Jeans said. "Being both a small-business person and someone with preexisting conditions, I rely on the Affordable Care Act to be able to purchase my own insurance. Why would you repeal the Affordable Care Act without a replacement?"
As Ryan began his answer, saying the GOP planned to replace the law when repealing it, Jeans interrupted to add a message onto his question.
"Can I say one thing?" Jeans said. "I want to thank President Obama from the bottom of my heart because I would be dead if it weren't for him."
Ryan said Republicans planned to replace Obamacare with high-risk pools, which had been used by states before the ACA was passed, so that Jeans and others could continue to get coverage. Health-policy experts (http://kff.org/health-reform/issue-brief/high-risk-pools-for-uninsurable-individuals/) have been wary of this plan because of the low enrollment and prohibitively high costs in previous state-level pools.
While Republicans have been pushing for the law to be repealed and replaced (http://www.businessinsider.com/obamacare-repeal-process-senate-vote-2017-1), Democrats and the Obama administration have been highlighting the positive effects of the law — using stories much like Jeans' to try to get the GOP to preserve some of the more popular provisions of the law.
The first legislation that would advance a repeal of the ACA was passed by the Senate early Thursday morning and was scheduled to be voted on by the House on Friday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhHyUL8P4Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhHyUL8P4Q)
Taj Rajan, nije što je protiv Trampa, al ima najgrđu njušku u sveckoj politici!
Obama je uradio barem jednu časnu stvar, smanjio kaznu Čelsi Mening na sedam godina pa ona izlazi iz zatvora ovog Maja... Sem ako tu neko nešto u međuvremenu ne zajebe...
Chelsea Manning to Be Released Early as Obama Commutes Sentence (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/politics/obama-commutes-bulk-of-chelsea-mannings-sentence.html?_r=0)
QuoteWASHINGTON — President Obama on Tuesday commuted all but four months of the remaining prison sentence of Chelsea Manning, the Army intelligence analyst convicted of a 2010 leak that revealed American military and diplomatic activities across the world, disrupted Mr. Obama's administration and brought global prominence to WikiLeaks, the recipient of those disclosures.
The decision by Mr. Obama rescued Ms. Manning, who twice tried to kill herself last year (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/us/chelsea-manning-tried-committing-suicide-a-second-time-in-october.html?action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&module=RelatedCoverage®ion=Marginalia&pgtype=article), from an uncertain future as a transgender woman incarcerated at the men's military prison (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/us/chelsea-manning-sentence-obama.html) at Fort Leavenworth, Kan. She has been jailed for nearly seven years, and her 35-year sentence was by far the longest punishment ever imposed in the United States for a leak conviction.
At the same time that Mr. Obama commuted the sentence of Ms. Manning, a low-ranking enlisted soldier at the time of her leaks, he also pardoned James E. Cartwright, the retired Marine general and former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who pleaded guilty to lying about his conversations with reporters to F.B.I. agents investigating a leak of classified information about cyberattacks on Iran's nuclear program.
The two acts of clemency were a remarkable final step for a president whose administration carried out an unprecedented criminal crackdown on leaks of government secrets. Depending on how they are counted, the Obama administration has prosecuted either nine or 10 such cases, more than were charged under all previous presidencies combined.
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Continue reading the main story (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/politics/obama-commutes-bulk-of-chelsea-mannings-sentence.html?_r=0#story-continues-2) In addition, Mr. Obama on Tuesday commuted the sentence of Oscar Lopez Rivera, who was part of a Puerto Rican nationalist group (http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/11/us/puerto-ricans-clinton-freed-leave-prisons.html) that carried out a string of bombings in the late 1970s and early 1980s; the other members of that group had long since been freed. Mr. Obama also granted 63 other pardons and 207 other commutations, mostly for drug offenders.
Under the terms of the commutation announced by the White House on Tuesday, Ms. Manning is set to be freed on May 17 of this year rather than in 2045. A senior administration official said the 120-day delay was part of a standard transition period for commutations to time served, and was designed to allow for such steps as finding a place for Ms. Manning to live after her release.
The commutation also relieved the Defense Department of the difficult responsibility of Ms. Manning's incarceration as she pushes for treatment for her gender dysphoria, including sex reassignment surgery, that the military has no experience providing.
But the move was sharply criticized by several prominent Republicans, including the chairmen of the House and Senate armed services committees, Representative Mac Thornberry of Texas and Senator John McCain of Arizona, who called her leaks "espionage" and said they had put American troops and the country at risk.
Speaker Paul D. Ryan called it "outrageous (http://www.speaker.gov/press-release/statement-chelsea-manning)." "President Obama now leaves in place a dangerous precedent that those who compromise our national security won't be held accountable for their crimes," he said in a statement.
But in a joint statement, Nancy Hollander and Vince Ward — two lawyers who have been representing Ms. Manning in appealing her conviction and sentence, and who filed the commutation application — praised the decision.
"Ms. Manning is the longest-serving whistle-blower in the history of the United States," they said. "Her 35-year sentence for disclosing information that served the public interest and never caused harm to the United States was always excessive, and we're delighted that justice is being served in the form of this commutation."
In recent days, the White House had signaled that Mr. Obama was seriously considering granting Ms. Manning's commutation application, in contrast to a pardon application submitted on behalf of the other large-scale leaker of the era, Edward J. Snowden, the former intelligence contractor who disclosed archives of top-secret surveillance files and is living as a fugitive in Russia.
Asked about the two clemency applications on Friday, the White House spokesman, Josh Earnest, discussed the "pretty stark difference" between Ms. Manning's case for mercy and Mr. Snowden's. While their offenses were similar, he said, there were "some important differences."
"Chelsea Manning is somebody who went through the military criminal justice process, was exposed to due process, was found guilty, was sentenced for her crimes, and she acknowledged wrongdoing," he said. "Mr. Snowden fled into the arms of an adversary and has sought refuge in a country that most recently made a concerted effort to undermine confidence in our democracy."
Mr. Earnest also noted that while the documents Ms. Manning provided to WikiLeaks were "damaging to national security," the ones Mr. Snowden disclosed were "far more serious and far more dangerous." (None of the documents Ms. Manning disclosed were classified above the merely "secret" level.)
Ms. Manning was still known as Bradley Manning when she deployed with her unit to Iraq in late 2009. There, she worked as a low-level intelligence analyst helping her unit assess insurgent activity in the area it was patrolling, a role that gave her access to a classified computer network.
She copied hundreds of thousands of military incident logs from the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, which, among other things, exposed abuses of detainees by Iraqi military officers (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/23/world/middleeast/23detainees.html) working with American forces and showed that civilian deaths in the Iraq war (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/23/world/middleeast/23casualties.html) were probably much higher than official estimates.
The files she copied also included about 250,000 diplomatic cables from American embassies showing sensitive deals and conversations, dossiers detailing intelligence assessments of Guantánamo detainees held without trial, and a video of an American helicopter attack (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/06/world/middleeast/06baghdad.html)in Baghdad in which two Reuters journalists were killed, among others.
She decided to make all these files public, as she wrote at the time (https://www.wired.com/2011/07/manning-lamo-logs/), in the hope that they would incite "worldwide discussion, debates and reforms." WikiLeaks disclosed them — working with traditional news organizations including The New York Times — bringing notoriety to the group and its founder, Julian Assange.
The disclosures set off a frantic scramble as Obama administration officials sought to minimize any potential harm, including getting to safety some foreigners in dangerous countries who were identified as having helped American troops or diplomats. Prosecutors, however, presented no evidence that anyone had been killed because of the leaks.
At her court-martial, Ms. Manning confessed in detail to her actions and apologized, saying she had not intended to put anyone at risk and noting that she had been "dealing with a lot of issues" at the time she made her decision.
Testimony showed that she had been in a mental and emotional crisis as she came to grips, amid the stress of a war zone, with the fact that she was not merely gay but had gender dysphoria. She had been behaving erratically, including angry outbursts and lapsing into catatonia midsentence. At one point, she had emailed a photograph of herself in a woman's wig to her supervisor.
Prosecutors said that because the secret material was made available for publication on the internet, anyone, including Al Qaeda, could read it. And they accused Ms. Manning of treason, charging her with multiple counts under the Espionage Act, as well as with "aiding the enemy," a potential capital offense, although they said they would not seek her execution.
Ms. Manning confessed and pleaded guilty to a lesser version of those charges without any deal to cap her sentence. But prosecutors pressed forward with a trial and won convictions on the more serious versions of those charges; a military judge acquitted her of "aiding the enemy."
In her commutation application, Ms. Manning said she had not imagined that she would be sentenced to the "extreme" term of 35 years, a term for which there was "no historical precedent." (There have been only a handful of leak cases, and most sentence are one to three years.)
After her sentencing, Ms. Manning announced that she was transgender and changed her name to Chelsea.
The military, under pressure from a lawsuit filed on her behalf by Chase Strangio of the American Civil Liberties Union, has permitted her to partly transition to life as a woman, including giving her cross-sex hormones and letting her wear women's undergarments and light cosmetics.
But it has not let her grow her hair longer than male military standards, citing security risks, and Ms. Manning said she had yet to be permitted to see a surgeon about the possibility of sex reassignment surgery.
Until recently, the military discharged transgender soldiers. In June, Secretary of Defense Ashton B. Carter changed that policy and said the military would instead provide treatment for them, eventually including such surgery if doctors said it was necessary.
President-elect Donald J. Trump mocked that change as excessively "politically correct," raising the possibility that he will rescind it.
But even if he does, Ms. Manning will soon no longer be subject to the military's control
Još samo da slično uradi i za Snowdena, mada je to teže zamisliti, Snowden je ipak razotkrio grehe činjene mahom za Obamina vakta...
The Clinton Foundation Is Dead — But The Case Against Hillary Isn't (http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/the-clinton-foundation-is-dead-but-the-case-against-hillary-isnt/)
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While everyone's been gearing up for President Trump's inauguration, the Clinton Foundation made a major announcement this week that went by with almost no notice: For all intents and purposes, it's closing its doors.
In a tax filing, the Clinton Global Initiative said it's firing 22 staffers and closing its offices, a result of the gusher of foreign money that kept the foundation afloat suddenly drying up after Hillary Clinton failed to win the presidency.
It proves what we've said all along: The Clinton Foundation was little more than an influence-peddling scheme to enrich the Clintons, and had little if anything to do with "charity," either overseas or in the U.S. That sound you heard starting in November was checkbooks being snapped shut in offices around the world by people who had hoped their donations would buy access to the next president of the United States.
And why not? There was a strong precedent for it in Hillary Clinton's tenure as secretary of state. While serving as the nation's top diplomat, the Clinton Foundation took money from at least seven foreign governments — a clear breach of Clinton's pledge on taking office that there would be total separation between her duties and the foundation.
Is there a smoking gun? Well, of the 154 private interests who either officially met or had scheduled phone talks with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state, at least 85 were donors to the Clinton Foundation or one of its programs.
In November, we asked the question: "Is The Clinton Foundation Doomed (http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/after-trumps-win-is-the-clinton-foundation-doomed/)?" The answer is yes.
All the way back in May, we outlined how the Clinton Foundation had taken in $100 million from a collection of Gulf sheikhs and billionaires, along with millions from private businesses, who expected — and received — special access to the State Department's top official, Hillary.
In his 2015 book "Clinton Cash (https://www.amazon.com/Clinton-Cash-Foreign-Governments-Businesses/dp/0062369296)," author Peter Schweizer showed how during Hillary's years in government "the Clintons have conducted or facilitated hundreds of large transactions (either as private citizens or government officials) with foreign governments, corporations and private financiers." He called the sums going to the Clintons "staggering."
Using the Freedom of Information Act, Judicial Watch in August obtained emails (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/08/23/experts-new-clinton-state-dept-emails-show-donor-access-not-favors/89118156/) (that had been hidden from investigators) showing that Clinton's top State Department aide, Huma Abedin, had given "special expedited access to the secretary of state" for those who gave $25,000 to $10 million to the Clinton Foundation. Many of those were facilitated by a former executive of the foundation, Doug Band, who headed Teneo, a shell company that managed the Clintons' affairs.
As part of this elaborate arrangement, Abedin was given special permission to work for the State Department, the Clinton Foundation and Teneo — another very clear conflict of interest.
As Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said at the time, "These new emails confirm that Hillary Clinton abused her office by selling favors to Clinton Foundation donors."
The seedy saga doesn't end there. Indeed, there are so many facets to it, some may never be known. But there is still at least one and possibly four active federal investigations into the Clintons' supposed charity.
Americans aren't willing to forgive and forget. Earlier this month, the IBD/TIPP Poll asked Americans whether they would like President Obama to pardon Hillary for any crimes she may have committed as secretary of state, including the illegal use of an unsecured homebrew email server. Of those queried, 57% said no. So if public sentiment is any guide, the Clintons' problems may just be beginning.
Writing in the Washington Post in August of 2016, Charles Krauthammer pretty much summed up the whole tawdry tale (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-bribery-standard/2016/08/25/958e4eb6-6ae8-11e6-ba32-5a4bf5aad4fa_story.html?utm_term=.8c4e06a6078c): "The foundation is a massive family enterprise disguised as a charity, an opaque and elaborate mechanism for sucking money from the rich and the tyrannous to be channeled to Clinton Inc.," he wrote. "Its purpose is to maintain the Clintons' lifestyle (offices, travel accommodations, etc.), secure profitable connections, produce favorable publicity and reliably employ a vast entourage of retainers, ready to serve today and at the coming Clinton Restoration."
Except, now there is no Clinton Restoration. So there's no reason for any donors to give money to the foundation. It lays bare the fiction of a massive "charitable organization," and shows it for what it was: a scam to sell for cash the waning influence of the Democrats' pre-eminent power couple. As far as the charity landscape goes, the Clinton Global Initiative won't be missed.
Bio pre nekoliko dana na Tviteru neki lik koji je tvrdio da Obamacare treba ukinuti, ali da Affordable Care Act (ACA) treba da ostane. Lik je i dobio svoje zdravstveno osiguranje preko ACA, i hvali ga na sva zvona. Mali problem je u tome što je to jedno te isto. "Obamacare" je nezvanično ime za ACA. Liku sa tvitera je ukazano na grešku, i čovek je priznao da je pogrešio, i sad mu je i Obamacare dobar. Par dana kasnije Džimi Kimel ispituje da li je ovaj lik usamljeni slučaj, ili ima još poneko ko ne zna da je to isto. Fora je što je pre tri godine sproveo istu anketu, ali Amerikanci prosto nemaju pojma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6m7pWEMPlA
Šasve ameri nemaju pojma, po jednoj anketi su mislili da je sadam finansirao alkaidu godinama nakon što je dokazano da je neistina
Fala bogu da ih je tramp iztrolovao za sve pare
Ričard Spenser je čovek koji je možda i izmislio termin Alt Right, ali u svakom slučaju je jedna od perjanica američkog belog nacionalizma, segregacionizma i, kako on to sam zove, identitetarijanstva. U pitanju je obrazovan pripadnik više srednje klase koji se za belu Ameriku bori think tankovima i publicistikom, ne ličnim mlaćenjem crnaca i paljenjem židovskih firmi. Pre par sati je popio pesnicu u lice tokom davanja intervjua televiziji na ulici. Većina ljudi na twitteru čije sam fidove ovlaš pregledao aplaudira ovom potezu i veli da je udaranje naciste na kvarno legitiman potez jer nacisti ionako propovedaju nasilje...
https://youtu.be/9rh1dhur4aI (https://youtu.be/9rh1dhur4aI)
Watch White Nationalist Richard Spencer Get Punched During an Interview (http://time.com/4642117/richard-spencer-punched-white-nationalist-nazi-trump-inauguration/)
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A hooded man punched white nationalist Richard Spencer (http://time.com/4592947/students-protest-white-nationalist-richard-spencer-texas-am/) in the face in downtown Washington D.C. Friday following the inauguration of President Donald Trump.
At the time Spencer said (https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/822571322819641344) he was with two filmmakers who are making a documentary on him. The Australian Broadcasting Corporation said he was also talking to their Washington bureau chief (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-21/richard-spencer-national-policy-institute-punched-abc-interview/8200270).
Spencer was ringed by a handful of protesters and bystanders and arguing that left-wing protests had become more intense.
"I've given conferences for ages," he says, "and we'll usually expect some protesters. They'll do Silly String or something like that."
He then adds "We've entered this new world where the leftist protesters..." but is interrupted by an onlooker who asks him if he is a neo-Nazi, which Spencer denies.
From off camera, a female voice asks him "Would you marry a black woman?" Spencer does not answer.
An attacker then lands a punch on the right side of Spencer's face before running off. Spencer reels down the pavement but maintains his balance.
The attack reportedly took place (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/20/white-nationalist-richard-spencer-punched-during-dc-protests/96859496/) at 2:30pm at the corner of 14th and K Streets.
After the assault, Spencer posted a live video on Twitter (https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/822571322819641344), denouncing it as "serious," "terrible," and "occurring in the most cowardly fashion possible."
Spencer became infamous last November, after a video showed him shouting "Heil Trump" and quoting Nazi propaganda (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/) in German during an anti-Semitic speech at a white nationalist conference in Washington D.C., held to celebrate Donald Trump's electoral victory.
Watch the attack on Spencer above.
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Kobireko
I Kanada je neka Amerika. Pucnjava u džamiji u Kvebeku:
Five dead in Quebec City mosque shooting: mosque president (https://www.yahoo.com/news/five-dead-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-mosque-president-022604918.html)
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QUEBEC CITY (Reuters) - Five people were killed after gunmen opened fire in a Quebec City mosque during evening prayers, the mosque's president told reporters on Sunday.
Earlier, a witness told Reuters that up to three gunmen fired on about 40 people inside the Quebec City Islamic Cultural Center. Police put up a security perimeter around the mosque.
Quebec police confirmed the shooting at a Quebec mosque in a tweet, and police on the scene said there had been fatalities.
"There are many victims ... there are deaths," a Quebec police spokesman told reporters.
A police tweet said there were deaths and injuries and that suspects had been arrested.
"Why is this happening here? This is barbaric," said the mosque's president, Mohamed Yangui.
Yangui, who was not inside the mosque when the shooting occurred, said he got frantic calls from people at evening prayers. He did not know how many were injured, saying they had been taken to different hospitals across Quebec City.
In June 2016, a pig's head was left on the doorstep of the cultural centre.
Like France, Quebec has struggled at times to reconcile its secular identity with a rising Muslim population, many of them North African emigrants.
The face-covering, or niqab, became a big issue in the 2015 national Canadian election, especially in Quebec, where the vast majority of the population supported a ban on it at citizenship ceremonies.
Incidents of Islamophobia have increased in Quebec in recent years. In 2013, police investigated after a mosque in the Saguenay region of Quebec was splattered with what was believed to be pig blood.
In the neighboring province of Ontario, a mosque was set on fire in 2015, a day after an attack by gunmen and suicide bombers in Paris.
Možda im na kraju glave dođu... svinje?
Invasive wild pig populations continue to grow, spread through United States (http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2017/02/02/Invasive-wild-pig-populations-continue-to-grow-spread-through-United-States/6341486056117/)
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Feb. 2 (UPI) -- Wild invasive pigs are wreaking havoc on North American ecosystems, a new report warns.
"Feral swine cause major damage to property, agriculture (crops and livestock), native species and ecosystems, and cultural and historic resources," Gail Keirn, a public affairs specialist with the National Wildlife Research Center, told PLOS ONE (http://blogs.plos.org/ecology/2017/02/01/invasive-wild-pigs-leave-a-swath-of-destruction-across-u-s-and-they-keep-spreading/).
The National Wildlife Research Center, NWRC, is the research arm of the Wildlife Services program, part of the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, a USDA agency.
"This invasive species also threatens the health of people, wildlife, pets, and other domestic animals," Keirn said. "As feral swine populations continue to expand across the country, these damages, costs, and risks will only keep rising."
According to the new report (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1365-2664.12866/abstract), $1.5 billion is spent in the United States each year to repair and prevent damage done by wild pigs.
Researchers say that number is likely to rise as wild pig populations continue to grow and spread through the United States. It is estimated that roughly 6 million invasive wild pigs currently inhabit the U.S. They're found in 35 states.
Researchers at NWRC used wild pig data collected between 1982 and 2012 to plot the widening ranges of wild pigs and to predict their territorial expansion moving forward.
The largest wild pig populations are found in the South, but a team of scientists led by Nathan Snow found the pigs have been moving northward at a clip of 4 to 8 miles per year. In 30 to 50 years, Snow and his colleagues predict, wild pigs could be found living in all 50 states and every county in the country. Their conquest could happen even quicker if boars introduced into Canada continue to move southward.
Wild pigs reproduce quickly and often, eat nearly anything and can survive in a variety of habitats. They also have no natural predators.
Feral pigs, or razorbacks, were first established in the 1500s, when colonists brought over wild and domesticated pigs for food. Some wandered off and spawned small feral populations. The Eurasian wild boar, or Russian wild boar, Sus scrofa, was introduced to the United States in the 19th century for hunting. Today, wild invasive pigs consist of a combination of feral pigs, pure wild boars and hybrids of the two.
http://m.journal-neo.org/2017/02/14/opioid-mayhem-erodes-the-fabric-of-us-society-2/
Trava izaziva haos na američkim ulicama!
Sajt dostupan na engleskom i ruskom jeziku. Na kom li se istina bolje vidi..
Odma poklonu gledaš u kirilicu!
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Uber Is Doomed (http://jalopnik.com/uber-is-doomed-1792634203)
Sigurno se sećate vesti od pre pet godina kada je tvrđeno da je naučna studija pokazala da je svaki deseti među direktorima finansijskih firmi sa Vol Strita - psihopata. Naravno, pošto smi mi takvi ljudi kakvi smo, ne samo da smo odmah poverovali (PA NARAVNO, KO BI SE DRUGI ONAKO PONAŠAO!!11!!) nego smo i to "svaki deseti" odmah transformisali u "SVAKI!!!1!11!!" i seirili par dana dok vest nije demantovana ukazivanjem da je studija rađena na malom uzorku koji nije izabran na reprezentativan način a i u njemu nije pronađen rezultat iole približan tvrdnji od deset posto (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/28/wall-street-psychopaths_n_1307168.html).
Well, pet godina je dugo vremena u 21. veku tako da, spremimo se na novi ciklus. Ovog puta meta je silikonska dolina:
Crazy at the wheel: psychopathic CEOs are rife in Silicon Valley, experts say (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/15/silicon-valley-psychopath-ceo-sxsw-panel)
Tekst je iz Gardijana, a na osnovu panela održanog na SXSW...
Džizas...
Appeals Court: Officer Who Shot and Killed Innocent Man in His Own Home Cannot Be Sued (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/17/appeals_court_rules_officer_who_killed_man_in_his_own_home_cannot_be_sued.html)
Andrew Scott and his girlfriend were playing video games in their Florida apartment late at night when they heard a loud banging at the front door. Scott, who was understandably disturbed, retrieved the handgun that he lawfully owned, then opened the door with the gun pointed safely down. Outside, he saw a shadowy figure holding a pistol. He began to retreat inside and close the door when the figure fired six shots without warning, three of which hit Scott, killing him. Scott hadn't fired a single bullet or even lifted his firearm.
The figure outside was Deputy Richard Sylvester. He failed to identify himself as a law enforcement officer at any point. He had no warrant and no reason to suspect that Scott or his girlfriend had committed a crime. He did not attempt to engage with Scott at all after he opened the door; he simply shot him dead. And on Thursday, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11
th Circuit held (http://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/files/201414673.rehord.pdf) that Scott's parents and girlfriend cannot sue Sylvester because the officer's conduct was not "clearly" illegal.
The court's reasoning? Qualified immunity, a constitutionally dubious doctrine (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2896508) that bars individuals from suing the government for violating their rights unless those rights were "clearly established." And what, exactly, constitutes a "clearly established" right? It's almost always possible to argue the point either way. Consider the events that led up to Scott's killing. Sylvester had been pursuing a speeding motorcyclist who, he suspected, might be the same motorcyclist who'd recently committed armed assault and battery. (He had no legitimate reason to suspect this particular motorcyclist was the suspect in question.) Sylvester found a motorcycle at Scott's apartment complex and decided it was the one he was looking for, even though a license plate search revealed no incriminating information. He and three other officers drew their guns and pounded on Scott's door. When Scott opened it, Sylvester shot and killed him.
A district court granted Sylvester qualified immunity, holding that no "clearly established law" prohibited his actions. A panel of judges for the 11
th Circuit affirmed. And on Thursday, the 11
th Circuit, sitting en banc (http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=625), declined to revisit the panel's decision. In support of this refusal to rehear the case, Judge Frank M. Hull wrote that Sylvester's behavior was a variation on "the knock and talk rule." This rule allows officers to enter private property and knock on an individual's door for "legitimate police purposes." Hull reasoned that Sylvester had merely engaged in a form of "knock and talk" and that Scott could have simply declined to open his door. Shooting Scott once he
did open the door, Hull wrote, did not violate any "clearly established ... constitutional rights."
In dissent, Judge Beverly Martin shattered this sophistry with painful precision. "Under no standard," she wrote, "was it reasonable for the police to kill Mr. Scott when he answered the knock at the door to his home. He was not suspected of any crime (much less a violent crime) and he was standing inside his own house without threatening them." The police, she explained "were not engaged in a permissible 'knock and talk' when they killed Mr. Scott." In fact, "there was no talk here. This was a knock and shoot." Sylvester had no warrant and no reasonable suspicion that Scott had committed a crime. Martin thus concluded that he clearly violated Scott's Fourth Amendment rights by conducting a warrantless raid and using excessive force.
The most fascinating part of Martin's analysis centered around Sylvester's insistence that the shooting was justified because Scott opened the door while holding a firearm. This "conclusion that deadly force was reasonable here," Martin noted, "plainly infringes on the Second Amendment right to 'keep and bear arms.' " Citing the Supreme Court's decision in
D.C. v. Heller (https://www.oyez.org/cases/2007/07-290), which affirmed an individual right to handgun ownership under the Second Amendment, Martin wrote:
If Mr. Scott was subject to being shot and killed, simply because (as the District Court put it) he made the "fateful decision" to answer a late-night disturbance at the door to his house, and did so while holding his firearm pointed safely at the ground, then the Second Amendment (and
Heller) had little effect.That seems exactly right to me—and it raises an important point: The 11
th Circuit has now effectively found an individual's Fourth Amendment rights are diminished whenever he chooses to exercise his
Second Amendment right to possess a firearm. Unfortunately, the 4
th Circuit reached the same conclusion in a dreadful ruling (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/444180/gun-control-court-curbs-civil-rights-conceal-carry-permit-holders) handed down in January. The Supreme Court should step in soon to remedy the contradiction by clarifying that the exercise of one constitutional right cannot diminish the protection of another. This is an area where liberals and conservatives (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/09/the_liberal_second_amendment.html) should be in agreement.
Qualified immunity has clearly become a significant problem in the lower courts. Just last week, another federal appeals court ruled that a homeless man had no right (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/10/appeals_court_rules_homeless_man_cannot_sue_cop_who_let_police_dog_maul.html) to sue the police officer who allowed his dog to maul him despite
knowing the mauling victim was innocent. Its rationale? Qualified immunity. The lower courts are stretching the doctrine past its breaking point. Soon, victims of police violence will almost
never be able to sue the officers who violate their constitutional rights. If that's where we're headed, why even pretend that we hold those rights in the first place?
Dobro zar neko stvarno misli da će mu biti bolje kada "amerika" bude propala? Neće biti bolje, nego samo gore. A sada ozbiljno, amerika ili Amerika nije na ivici propasti, ona je već prešla crtu, a i mi sa njom. Politička korektnost "progresivne" "liberalne" lefice je samo šlag na torti sistema koji je duboko poremećen iznutra. Naravno, njihova vojna snaga nije pod znakom pitanja, privredna tu i tamo, ali sveukupno uzeto treći Rim ide u istoriju. Obrazovni sistem, ono na čemu u stvari počiva snaga jedne kulture, i njema moć da se nametne drugima, je u SAD dovedena do apsurda, počevši od takozvanog "grčkog" sistema fila ili bratstva, tako dragog studentatiji koja jedva čeka da novac od kredita uzetog za plaćanje preskupih koledža iskoriisti za hookups i kresanje. mislim ako imaju šta da izaberu od gomile degenerisanih ne debelih, ne čak ni gojaznih, nego deformisanih primeraka ženki, ali i mužjaka ljudske vrste kojih su SAD danas pune. Poneko čak i ode da studira, ali ne može da dođe do izražaja jer nije pripadnik neke od manjina, ne histeriše oko safe space, ili nije crni amerikanac koji pojma nema ni o čemu ali je primljen na koledž jer je morala da se zadovolji kvota, ili je beli bilmez za koga je Homer Simpson Ajnštajn po intelektu, ali zato dobro igra american football, baseball, pa tako koledžu donosi pare pobedama u sportu. I onda očekujemo da ova zemlja napreduje? Da ne propada? I onda nekog čudi pobeda predsedničkog kandidata poznatog po muljanju i prevarama? Veliki broj amerikanaca nema pojma ni o čemu van onoga što mu nudi TV i mediji. Da nije tako ne bi se gledale bljuvotine tipa rijaltija, ili se ne bi gledalo šta rade oni debili Kardašijani. Ostatak koji i ima malo mozga, troši ga na raspredanje ko je tatko od Rey, dal će da pandrkne Luk i ko je ili šta je Snoke.... o tome da je crnim amerikancima važnije da sebe vide kao potomke "egipatskih" faraona, da slikaju svoje zadrigle zadnjice i kače ih na Tumblr, nego da se pokrenu i rade nešto pametno ne vredi ni govoriti. Ili šta reći o državi koja trpi da im se "potencijalni" teroristi šetaju po državi, šire svoju kretensku ideologiju, ne radi ništa, ali zato reaguje maltene kao da je napadnuta u odbrani autorskih prava?
Ha, drma te odjutros?
Quote from: scallop on 21-03-2017, 11:13:52
Ha, drma te odjutros?
Drma, kafa i jabukovača....
Znam. Gde god se okreneš - klonja. Za sve su krivi oni što su rekli da se ne može napisati dobra knjiga o utopiji. Ni Biblija.
Heeeeej, Biblija je temelj naučne literature!
Quote from: Ugly MF on 21-03-2017, 11:36:30
Heeeeej, Biblija je temelj naučne literature!
Zato se i klima.
Nauka koja ne koristi Bibliju kao temelj? Naravno.
Ja o načelu, ti o pojedinostima. Ima li ovde neko ko ne počne odmah da se migolji ko medved Jogi na pozornici?
Nije da ovo nismo znali...
The Gig Economy Celebrates Working Yourself to Death (http://www.newyorker.com/culture/jia-tolentino/the-gig-economy-celebrates-working-yourself-to-death)
A New Look At The Lasting Consequences Of Student Debt (http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2017/04/04/522456671/a-new-look-at-the-lasting-consequences-of-student-debt)
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Recent college graduates who borrow are leaving school with an average of $34,000 in student loans. That's up from $20,000 just 10 years ago, according to a new analysis from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (https://www.newyorkfed.org/press/pressbriefings/household-borrowing-student-loans-homeownership).
In that report, out this week, the New York Fed took a careful look at the relationship between debt and homeownership. For people aged 30 to 36, the analysis shows having any student debt significantly hurts your chances of buying a home, compared to college graduates with no debt. The cliche of "good debt" notwithstanding, the consequences of borrowing are real, and they are lasting.
The report paints a mixed picture of how student borrowing has evolved over the last decade, since the financial crisis. There are some bright spots: For example, student loan defaults peaked five years ago and have declined ever since.
And repayment seems to have slowed down among high-balance borrowers —those who owe $75,000 or more. Meaning, after 10 years, they have paid down only one-quarter to one-third of what they owe.
On the face, this isn't necessarily good. But taken alongside the decline in defaults, Fed president William Dudley said in a press briefing Monday, it reflects something good. That is, graduate students, in particular, are signing up for government programs intended to help make payments more affordable.
[The fate of one of those programs, Public Service Loan Forgiveness, was in doubt last week after a legal filing (http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2017/04/01/521902888/how-schools-are-like-uber-trump-u-settlement-and-other-education-news-of-the-wee) by Betsy DeVos's Department of Education.]
Regardless of what happens with that program and others, nothing is holding back the rise of college tuition — up nine percent (https://trends.collegeboard.org/college-pricing/figures-tables/tuition-and-fees-and-room-and-board-over-time-1976-77_2016-17-selected-years), after inflation, in the past five years at public universities. Dudley pointed out that in the last several years, public colleges have generally become less, not more, accessible to middle-income students, when you look at tuition and aid policies.
Living expenses are also a continuing burden for students, a significant number of whom are dealing with homelessness and hunger at the nation's community colleges (http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2017/03/15/520192774/national-survey-shows-high-rates-of-hungry-and-homeless-community-college-studen) in particular. In the absence of more targeted grant or scholarship programs, more people are taking out student loans, and they are borrowing more. All that borrowing adds up to a total of $1.3 trillion, nearly triple what it was a decade ago.
So, is college still worth it? In the most simplistic terms, yes.
Let's look back at homeownership. Attending a four-year college — even if you borrow, and even if you do not graduate — still increases your chances of owning a home, compared to people who never enroll.
More, results show that if even you come from a low-income family, graduating from college makes you almost as likely to own a home, by age 36, as someone from a high-income family.
Ovo se podjednako odnosi i na mnoge druge zemlje, ali evo ga ovde:
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/3/21/14938698/growth-trump-economic-us-slowdown-demographics-stagnation
"I crossed the line". You think????!!!
Kathy Griffin sorry for decapitated Trump head photo after igniting fierce outrage; 'I crossed the line' (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/kathy-griffin-sparks-outrage-decapitated-trump-head-photo-article-1.3207184)
Silikon Veli nije mogao bolje odabrati tajming za svoju prošlonedeljnu epizodu...
This Anti-Aging Start-Up Is Charging Thousands of Dollars for Teen Blood (http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/this-anti-aging-start-up-is-paying-thousands-of-dollars-for-teen-blood)
Američki policajci prvo pucaju u afroameričke muškarce pa onda postavljaju pitanja... čak i kad su rečeni afroamerički muškarci i sami policajci (https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-off-duty-cop-shot-colleague-responding-car-crash-2-185230363.html). Ovo nije smešno ali jeste apsurdno, praktično na nivou satire... Crni policajac u Sent Luisu bio izvan dužnosti ali video masivan sudar i pritrčao da pomogne kolegama. Prvo su ga naterali da legne na zemlju sa rukama na leđima ali su ga onda prepoznali - jer ipak čovek jedanaest godina radi u policiji, pa su mu dozvolili da priđe i pridruži se. E, onda se jedan od belih policajaca (sa osam godina iskustva), očigledno neupućen jer je tek stigao, "osetio ugroženim" i izvadio pištolj i upucao čoveka. Doduše u ruku, niko nije mrtav, ali zaboga, ZABOGA, pa šta ih uče na toj obuci???
O istom trošku, nešto što svi znaju, ali nije loše da se i zvanično potvrdi:
Most Terrorists in the U.S. Are Right Wing, Not Muslim: Report (http://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremism-islamist-terrorism-donald-trump-steve-bannon-628381)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 24-06-2017, 06:24:37
Američki policajci prvo pucaju u afroameričke muškarce pa onda postavljaju pitanja... čak i kad su rečeni afroamerički muškarci i sami policajci (https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-off-duty-cop-shot-colleague-responding-car-crash-2-185230363.html). Ovo nije smešno ali jeste apsurdno, praktično na nivou satire... Crni policajac u Sent Luisu bio izvan dužnosti ali video masivan sudar i pritrčao da pomogne kolegama. Prvo su ga naterali da legne na zemlju sa rukama na leđima ali su ga onda prepoznali - jer ipak čovek jedanaest godina radi u policiji, pa su mu dozvolili da priđe i pridruži se. E, onda se jedan od belih policajaca (sa osam godina iskustva), očigledno neupućen jer je tek stigao, "osetio ugroženim" i izvadio pištolj i upucao čoveka. Doduše u ruku, niko nije mrtav, ali zaboga, ZABOGA, pa šta ih uče na toj obuci???
O istom trošku, nešto što svi znaju, ali nije loše da se i zvanično potvrdi:
Most Terrorists in the U.S. Are Right Wing, Not Muslim: Report (http://www.newsweek.com/right-wing-extremism-islamist-terrorism-donald-trump-steve-bannon-628381)
Očekivati da drotovi nešto znaju, i to na dubokom jugu je isto kao i očekivati da frižider podgreva večeru. Ili, isto kao kada se očekuje da "levi" korisni idioti uopšte bilo šta shvate, jer im naravno mediji kažu da nema išljamskog terorizma i da su išljamci ugroženi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hubT6i30WDE
Quote from: Pizzobatto on 08-07-2017, 19:29:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hubT6i30WDE
Pa da, a šta se drugo moglo očekivati od "progresivista". Polako ali sigurno ostala su samo tri tabua koje treba srušiti: incest, mekrofilija i naravno pedofilija. Posle toga nema dalje. Kada to urade, kreće histerija napada raspomamljenih SJW na svakog ko se usudi da kaže da rušenje tih tabua nije normalno.
Rorty je, vele, svojom knjigom od pre dve decenije lepo predskazao aktuelni politički krajolik u SAD. Naravno, par godina pre toga u Beogradu drugu je pesmu pevao :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The Book That Predicted Trump's Rise Offers the Left a Roadmap for Defeating Him (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/advice-for-the-left-on-achieving-a-more-perfect-union/531054/)
sve tačno, mada fali da je to očigledno tržište proizvelo ljude opsjednute identitetom, bitnije je dal si lgbt nego dal ti plata mala, i što je najgore, ako slučajno loše živiš, prekarni si radnik ili nezaposlen, ti si kriv i čak treba da to sebi priznaš.
Sve je to povezano s pretjeranim individualizacijama, koje su zapravo lažne. Biti gej praznih džepova. Bolje da si pederčina punih džepova.
U drugim vestima:
Republicans increasingly think colleges are harming the U.S. (https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-increasingly-think-colleges-harming-u-s-201700970.html)
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A new survey from the Pew Research Center finds that a majority of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (58 percent) now think that colleges and universities are having a negative impact on the United States. That's up from 45 percent last year.
For comparison, most Democrats and Democratic leaners (72 percent) think that institutions of higher learning are having a positive effect on the country, which is consistent with poll results from recent years.
Republican positions on colleges and universities changed drastically over a relatively short period.
Less than two years ago, in September 2015, 54 percent of Republicans thought colleges and universities were having a positive impact on the U.S. Only 37 percent thought otherwise. Last year, Republicans were split on the impact of these schools (43 percent positive versus 45 percent negative).
This is the first time a majority of Republicans expressed disapproval of higher education (http://www.people-press.org/2017/07/10/sharp-partisan-divisions-in-views-of-national-institutions/) since the Pew Research Center started asking this question in 2010.
Between 2015 and 2017, Republicans with positive views of higher education's impact on the nation dropped 18 percentage points, from 54 to 36 percent. The drop affected most demographic and ideological groups within the Republican Party. There was little change in opinion based on the level of educational achievement.
Large majorities of Democrats, on the other hand, viewed the impact of colleges on the U.S. positively, though there was a slightly higher percentage among those with more education.
It should come as no surprise to anyone reading contemporary conservative literature that Republican voters have issues with the current state of higher education. Attacks on free speech, political bias among professors and demonstrations seeking to cancel invitations to speakers with unpopular views have all become talking points among conservative pundits. Among the right, "safe spaces," "trigger warnings" and "micro-aggressions" have become shorthand for thin-skinned liberal students who cannot handle opposing points of view.
The official 2016 Republican Party Platform (https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL%5B1%5D-ben_1468872234.pdf) outlines several of the GOP's objections to American higher education. It says the excellence of the current university system is undermined by a "deeply entrenched" "ideological bias."
According to the platform, trustees at state schools have a responsibility to taxpayers to ensure that their investment is not "abused for political indoctrination."
"We call on state officials to preserve our public colleges, universities, and trade schools as places of learning and the exchange of ideas, not zones of intellectual intolerance or 'safe zones,' as if college students need protection from the free exchange of ideas," it reads. "A student's First Amendment rights do not end at the schoolhouse gates. Colleges, universities, and trade schools must not infringe on their freedom of speech and association in the name of political correctness."
The Republican platform also condemns the "unsustainable trajectory" of rising tuition costs. Citing the crisis of student debt and college graduate underemployment, the platform calls on public policymakers to acknowledge that other options — such as technical institutions and online schools — may be preferable to traditional universities for some students.
The GOP opposes the federal government's role in providing student loans and argues that this contributes to the problem of high prices.
For contrast, the official 2016 Democratic Party Platform (https://www.democrats.org/party-platform) does not mention political bias on college campuses and claims that a postsecondary degree is "increasingly required" for jobs that pay middle-class wages. Just like the Republicans, the Democrats express frustration with exorbitant tuition prices, but they offer different solutions.
The Democratic platform calls on schools to "hold the line" on costs while the federal government makes "bold new investments." It also outlines its intentions to provide student debt relief, support universities that traditionally serve minority communities and crack down on "predatory for-profit schools."
Robert L. Shibley, the executive director of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), said Americans traditionally see universities as bastions of free speech and that schools are conspicuously failing to live up to this ideal, which is leading to a loss of confidence in those institutions.
"I think it's because we saw that rash of incidents with conservative and libertarian speakers in the spring, it makes sense that people with those views or close to them would be quicker to lose confidence in whether or not colleges are serving their function and helping the country," Shibley told Yahoo News.
In March, students at Middlebury College in Vermont successfully shut down a speech by controversial author Charles Murray (https://www.yahoo.com/news/conservative-writer-charles-murray-slams-231753710.html). The University of California, Berkeley, canceled speeches by conservative firebrand Milo Yiannopoulos (https://www.yahoo.com/news/berkeley-braces-protests-milo-yiannopoulos-talk-222135603.html) in February and right-wing pundit Ann Coulter (https://www.yahoo.com/tv/berkeley-rocked-100s-protestors-even-without-ann-coulter-031152661.html) in April following protests. The violent demonstrations against Yiannopoulos caused $100,000 in damage (https://sg.style.yahoo.com/ann-coulter-cancels-berkeley-speech-threats-violence-sad-175026347.html) to the campus, catching national media attention.
Shibley said FIRE defends First Amendment rights on college campuses, which include free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association and freedom of expression.
"Certainly we've been watching this growth recently in violent reactions to speakers coming on campuses," he said. "And in some cases, like in Evergreen State (https://www.yahoo.com/news/threats-cancel-classes-again-washington-state-college-162540555.html), we've been concerned to see this growth in violent or intolerant reactions to people who dissent from the campus mainstream."
It's not just conservatives who take issue with the trend of silencing dissenting voices on college campuses.
In September 2015, then-President Barack Obama criticized liberals who "maybe even agree with me on a bunch of issues" but are not willing to listen to conservative voices. "I've heard of some college campuses where they don't want to have a guest speaker who is too conservative. Or they don't want to read a book if it has language that is offensive to African-Americans. Or somehow sends a demeaning signal towards women," Obama said at a town hall in Des Moines, Iowa.
At the end of that school year, in May 2016, Obama rebuked students from the graduating class of Rutgers University (https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-chides-rutgers-students-pressuring-203403559.html) in New Jersey for having successfully pressured former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to drop her scheduled commencement address at the school's graduation two years earlier.
"I don't think it's a secret that I disagree with many of the policies of Dr. Rice and the previous administration. But the notion that this community or this country would be better served by not hearing a former secretary of state or not hearing what she had to say — I believe that's misguided," Obama told the graduates.
For the most recent survey, the Pew Research Center, a nonpartisan "fact tank" in Washington, D.C., polled 2,504 adults from June 8 to June 18. All participants were at least 18 years old. They came from all 50 states and Washington, D.C.
Among the survey's other findings were that Democrats are more likely to have positive views of labor unions while Republicans are more likely to have positive views of churches and banks.
Democrats were mixed on the impact of the news media on the country (44 percent positive to 46 percent negative). Republicans have consistently shown a negative opinion of the news media, and this year was no different, 85 percent negative to 10 percent positive.
Quote from: Pizzobatto on 11-07-2017, 14:28:01
sve tačno, mada fali da je to očigledno tržište proizvelo ljude opsjednute identitetom, bitnije je dal si lgbt nego dal ti plata mala, i što je najgore, ako slučajno loše živiš, prekarni si radnik ili nezaposlen, ti si kriv i čak treba da to sebi priznaš.
Sve je to povezano s pretjeranim individualizacijama, koje su zapravo lažne. Biti gej praznih džepova. Bolje da si pederčina punih džepova.
E tooo!
In Our Cynical Age, No One Fails Anymore — Everybody 'Pivots' (https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/29/magazine/in-our-cynical-age-no-one-fails-anymore-everybody-pivots.html)
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Last month, the right-wing media personality Mike Cernovich announced that he was conducting a ''big pivot'' away from the fringes of the news ecosystem. The move was unexpected, as Cernovich had carved out a comfortable niche for himself — railing against coastal elites and feminism, peddling conspiracy theories and self-help books. But Cernovich appeared to have decided that it was ''bad for business'' to, for example, keep pushing rumors of pedophilia in the Democratic leadership. Instead he wanted to capitalize on the relationships he had developed with Trump-administration officials in order to present himself as a new kind of journalist.
Cernovich's announcement may have seemed like typical digital-age image management, but a few days after his declaration, a somewhat generous profile appeared on the website of New York magazine. Its (admittedly tongue-in-cheek) headline: ''Mike Cernovich Pivots From Pizzagate to Not-So-Fake News.'' In the article, Cernovich told the magazine that he was a ''nonfiction writer,'' which may have been news to the various enemies he has casually accused of being child abusers, or to Hillary Clinton, who Cernovich claimed during the election cycle was suffering from a terminal illness. While acknowledging Cernovich's toxic history, the article still gave him credit for his ability to break news from Trump's advisers. And like that, the pivot was complete. Cernovich had changed his narrative by announcing his intention to do so.
The ''pivot'' has assumed a peculiar place in our common lexicon. A word once used to describe a guard angling for position on the basketball court is now in wide circulation in politics and business. That's especially the case in Silicon Valley, where pivoting has become the new failure, a concept to describe a haphazard, practically madcap form of iterative development. With its sheen of management-speak, pivoting is well suited to our moment. And like any act of public relations, pivoting is also a performance. A key part of the act is acknowledging that you are doing it while trying to recast the effort as something larger, more sophisticated, highly planned. The pivot, though it arises from desperation, is nevertheless supposed to appear methodical.
The word seems to have first gained currency in Silicon Valley through the efforts of Eric Ries, author of ''The Lean Startup.'' Ries defines pivoting as ''a change in strategy without a change in vision.'' Many successful start-ups now claim a pivot as their origin story. Slack began its life as a video-game company before realizing that its actual value might lie in a chat app the company used to communicate internally. The company is now considered to be worth at least $5 billion, putting it among the most successful pivoters of all time. (Other web staples — YouTube, Groupon, Instagram — began life in vastly different iterations before pivoting into their current forms.) There's a promise of technocratic efficiency with pivoting, that all you require is a good business plan, and perhaps another injection of venture capital, and you can transform yourself overnight.
It was inevitable that the word would eventually creep outward from Silicon Valley. Recently, it has found a home in online media, where pivoting is now seriously in vogue. Following the cue of Mashable, Vocativ and other digital outlets, Cory Haik, the publisher of Mic, announced her company's pivot in August. Haik acknowledged that Mic was acting out ''the much-lamented and much-snarked-about . . . 'pivot to video.' '' For the uninitiated, this entails essentially dumping your editorial staff in favor of cheaply produced, shareable videos favored by advertisers and newsfeed algorithms. This is precisely what Mic did — the company laid off 25 editors and writers — but Haik claimed that this time was different, that this move was part of a greater transformation, namely ''the early stages of a visual revolution in journalism.'' Mic wasn't just pivoting to survive, according to its publisher; it was doing so because it saw great opportunity — and ad dollars — in another medium. Or at least, these are the promises peddled to worried shareholders and disaffected media critics.
The pivot may be a tech-age phenomenon, but it has an antecedent in another rhetorical maneuver favored by Beltway types: ''evolving'' on an issue. Once politicians would emptily pretend to have thought about an issue and ''evolved'' toward a new position, even as it was obvious to all observers that the move was strategic. (Barack Obama's evolution on gay marriage is the ne plus ultra here.) Now politicians are freer to be openly cynical; like the business pivot, the political pivot is a product of expediency and pragmatism, rather than of some shift in deeply held ideals. The political pivot is more obviously compromised, focus-grouped, more of a performance about changing ''optics'' or a media narrative.
Which brings us to Donald Trump (http://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/donald-trump?inline=nyt-per), a man who many commentators believe to be constitutionally incapable of pivoting. Indeed, it does now seem very unlikely that some urgent event could foment a shift to a more mature, presidential attitude on the part of our splenetic, unpredictable commander in chief. At age 71, Trump has proved himself incapable of change, at least in the eyes of most credible observers. ''He didn't pivot; he merely pirouetted, and then he dug into the same political ground he has already claimed,'' John Cassidy wrote in The New Yorker after Trump's relatively sober Feb. 28 speech to Congress — a description that could be applied to all of Trump's flirtations with polite behavior. Members of the never-Trump right also gave up on the pivot idea long ago: ''We are in the last days of the 'He can pivot!' fantasy,'' Jonah Goldberg wrote last year in National Review.
But the truth is that Trump is pivoting constantly. Or perhaps more accurately, the man is so erratic that he has no baseline of behavior against which to pivot. For instance, Trump seemed to change his mind last month on the war in Afghanistan, adopting a very Obama-like policy of deploying more troops into the country. While he once presented himself as against nation-building, Trump as commander in chief has proved amenable to any number of military adventures placed in front of him. That he now approves of the extension of the 16-year war in Afghanistan can be explained by his taste for violence and his deep attention to how he is treated by the media, who have mostly lauded the move. If pivoting is a media phenomenon as much as any kind of grand strategy, then Trump owes credit to a credulous press that tends to grant the mantle of maturity to any president who decides to bomb another nation.
A cynical gesture for a cynical age, pivoting is designed for a public sphere where bad faith is a given and attention, of any kind, is the ultimate commodity. Trump knows how to profit from the attention economy, but he is not playing the multidimensional chess with which his enemies (and allies) occasionally credit him. Instead, he seems to be a creature of pure id, making impulsive, superficial decisions based on what he sees around himself. Trump sometimes changes his mind, but he rarely manages to act in any strategic sense. The mistake the media sometimes make is crediting Trump with strategic brilliance when he's capable of nothing of the sort. But it can seem as if Trump's behavior is so venal, so beyond pale and precedent, that it must reflect some kind of plan. Who would act this way otherwise?
Trump's innovation is to have mined a deeper vein of cynicism, exhausting the weary tropes of polite political discourse. He is the ultimate pivoter, aimlessly following his own impulses as his administration is mired in daily absurdities. In Trump, the hopelessness and institutional gridlock of our system find their efflorescence; his nihilistic malleability lays bare the fact that all our politicians' supposedly canny pivots are, at root, pivots to nowhere.
''That he now approves of the extension of the 16-year war in Afghanistan can be explained by his taste for violence and his deep attention to how he is treated by the media, who have mostly lauded the move.''
How yes no.
Kažu, opreznost je majka mudrosti.
https://www.vice.com/rs/article/a33m94/policija-brine-da-ce-film-to-probuditi-nove-jezive-klovnove (https://www.vice.com/rs/article/a33m94/policija-brine-da-ce-film-to-probuditi-nove-jezive-klovnove)
Policija brine da će film ,,To" probuditi nove jezive klovnove
Policija u Pensilvaniji je izdala hitno saopštenje kojim traži od građana da im se obrate ukoliko im se desi da vide ,,jezive klovnove"...
Martin Škreli će malo da mardelja, zbog toga što je nudio pare u zamenu za pramen kose Hilari Klinton. Znam.
'Pharma bro' Shkreli ordered to jail over internet harassment (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apos-pharma-bro-apos-shkreli-010700708.html)
Vrlo dobro naciljan editorijal na Džezbelu koji prepoznaje boles' savremene simbioze VC investiranja i Silicon Valleyjeve opsednutosti apovima i "mašinskim učnjem".
What Is Wrong With People? (http://jezebel.com/what-is-wrong-with-people-1805669113)
Hillary Clinton je napisala knjigu o tome kako je izgubila izbore.
Evo kako tviter na to reaguje:
(https://i.imgur.com/DUelEHl.jpg)
A evo i malo ozbiljnija analiza:
Hillary Clinton Doesn't Get It (https://newrepublic.com/article/144797/hillary-clinton-doesnt-get)
eto, nači nisu neonacisti krivi no lažni ljevičari, fala bogu!!!
Svi su krivi. Osim Hilari. Ona je žrtva...
Oh how the tables have turned...
https://youtu.be/-mDl8GqRxuw
Las Vegas...http://www.alo.rs/pucnjava-u-blizini-mandala-bej-kazina/125345
Ali da je publika bila naoružana... :roll:
kako li je penzos uneo oružje, pušketinu, u prometni hotel-kazino?
Pedeset mrtvih (http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-41466148?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central), jebote.... Naravno, pošto je belac još se ne pominje reč na "t"...
Oglasio se ISIS, preuzeli odgovornost. Kažu da je osumnjičeni uredno prešao u religiju mira pre nekoliko meseci.
jbt 10 pušaka
Quote from: S.U.B.A. on 02-10-2017, 20:13:23
Oglasio se ISIS, preuzeli odgovornost. Kažu da je osumnjičeni uredno prešao u religiju mira pre nekoliko meseci.
Moguće je i da lažu.
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mi smo imali jednog
ko god prne on preuzima krivicu
Boles'
http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/10/988592-cbs-legal-executive-disgusting-reason-feels-no-sympathy-towards-las-vegas-shooting-victims/
Ako Ameriku ne unište mangupi (sa automatskim oružjem) u sopstvenim redovima, možda je uništi rastuća ekonomska nejednakost:
Insanely Concentrated Wealth Is Strangling Our Prosperity (http://evonomics.com/insanely-concentrated-wealth-strangling-prosperity/)
(Ovaj tekst je, uzgred, dosta detaljan odgovor na pitanje Borisa Begovića (i sličnih neoliberalnih ekonomista) a postavljeno u Politici u nekoj od njegovih prošlogodišnjih kolumni, za koje je on sigurno mislio da je retoričko - Zašto se uopšte nejednakost pominje kao nešto loše?)
Alal vera za čestiti napad u Las Vegasu. Konačno jedan lik koji je iskoristio sve kapacitete a ne ko jajara da ubije 10-15 ljudi. Rispekt! xjap
Quote from: Meho KrljicNaravno, pošto je belac još se ne pominje reč na "t"...
The White Privilege of the "Lone Wolf" Shooter
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 02-10-2017, 14:33:09
Pedeset mrtvih (http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-41466148?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_breaking&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central), jebote.... Naravno, pošto je belac još se ne pominje reč na "t"...
Mda, da nije to zbog white privilege? Koji je razlog što jhe poubijao te persone? Teroristi po definiciji imaju svoj cilj, ma koliko debilan bio. Tako da, ovaj odlepljeni penzos nije terorista, ma koliko se pahuljice i BLM branitelji trudili da mu to pripišu....
Беле привилигије?
Могу само да замислим како би фејк медији баљезгали да је уместо посетилаца кантри концерта побио посетиоце неког реп дешавања...
Уместо да брифингују о борби против џихадиста, они брифингују о куртонима и вештачким китама...
(https://s1.postimg.org/5zztqgpblr/trand_amerika.jpg)
Spuki!
EXCLUSIVE: US Preparing to Put Nuclear Bombers Back on 24-Hour Alert (http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2017/10/exclusive-us-preparing-put-nuclear-bombers-back-24-hour-alert/141957/)
I sve to samo zato što se samoubeđuju da su im Rusi brljali po izborima?
Ovaj Đeneral što je citiran u tekstu, zapravo kaže da se ne spremaju za konkrentu pretnju već za "realnost globalne situacije" i kaže da više nije u pitanju situacija "Mi protiv SSSR" već da ima drugih igrača itd. Verovatno je to vojska SAD koristi celu tu priču sa Severnom Korejom i njihovom retorikom da sebi malo da na važnosti.
Ajde na popravni.
The Most Shocking Revelations from the Newly Released John F. Kennedy Assassination Files (http://people.com/politics/john-f-kennedy-assassination-files-shocking-revelations/)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 28-10-2017, 06:05:25
The Most Shocking Revelations from the Newly Released John F. Kennedy Assassination Files (http://people.com/politics/john-f-kennedy-assassination-files-shocking-revelations/)
Na stranu što je naslov ko iz Informera i Kurira, ali ništa se novo nije saznalo, niti će se saznati. Zašto? Pa mora da se održi mit o usamljenom luđaku koji je iz čiste želje za slavom ubio predsednika, a sam dva dana kasnije ubijen od strane Džeka Rubija, koji je uzgred budi rečeno tvrdio da je to uradio u afektu i da spreči da se Džeki maltretira na suđenju.
Koliko je želja da se zvanična verzija održi jaka može se videti i iz romana Steve Kralja "Dalas 1963" u kome glavni junak putuje kroz vreme da bi sprečio Osvalda u nameri da ubije Kenedija...
Da notiramo teroristički akt u Njujorku, po uzoru na neke recentne evropske: kamion kao smrtonosno oružje, islamistički ekstremizam kao verovatna podloga.
How the deadly New York City truck attack unfolded (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/deadly-york-city-truck-attack-unfolded-222903127--abc-news-topstories.html)
A onda, belac, bivši vojnik, upadne u crkvu u Teksasu i ubije 26 ljudi:
26 dead, 20 injured in massacre at rural Texas church in worst mass shooting in state's history (https://www.yahoo.com/gma/texas-church-scene-shooting-report-192705171--abc-news-topstories.html)
Nikako mi se ne dopada podtekst kojim opšiješ svoje poruke. Zlo je zlo.
Naravno, nego da se vidi da dolazi sa svih strana.
E, pa ja želim da se vidi i ono što misliš da se ne vidi. Svi mi koji bismo da pametujemo na društvenim mrežama moramo da znamo da ih ne prate samo pametni nego i svi ostali. Pa se među ostalima nađe i onih koji poveruju. Tako uzrokujemo štetu koja ima teške posledice, jer inspirišemo takve u uverenju da zlo uvek ima neko opravdanje. Neću i ne mogu sa time da se složim. Zato želim da kad god pomisliš da je nešto korisno da se sazna pomisliš i kakvu štetu praviš.
Šta je to što treba da vidimo, a što sad ne vidimo? Budimo konkretni.
Da su neki postovi obojeni političkim uverenjem, a neki nisu. Recimo da ste Uroš i ti izazvali reakciju koja nikome na ZS nije bila potrebna.
Kakvu su to reakciju izazvali???
Valjda da kad bledoliki amer zapuca to nije terorizam, iako su pobili više od čupavih islamista
Je li to? Ili je nešto drugo?
Ne znam pojma, štas drugo radio?
Za Scordiska i Maca:
Sačekajte da se Aksentije vrati sa puta, a akhnaton živne.
Za Pizzobattoa:
Ako ne mogu da budu Dambo propalice bi da budu bar Rambo i stignu u novine. Džihad bi da se domogne hurija. Znam da će se insuficijencija adrenalina zdušno braniti da umetnost oponaša stvarnost, ali ja bih voleo neku statistiku koliko umetnost oponašaju zločinci. Imam snažan dojam da je umetnost generator zločinačkih ideja.
Mada bih i ja mogao da se pravim blesav, ali mi ne uspeva. :?
Ja bih samo da saznam u čemu je problem, ali ni meni ne uspeva.
aa, vala, ne bih ja krivio mehu i maca za njih dvojicu, već nešto drugo, al ajde
Mora da sam ja glup jer ne mogu da objasnim vama pametnima.
Ja do sad nisam video ni pokušaj objašnjavanja. Da sačekam da se T2 vrati, pa će on da mi objasni? WTF?
Ne razumem šta ne razumeš. :lol:
Quote from: scallop on 06-11-2017, 11:05:52
Recimo da ste Uroš i ti izazvali reakciju koja nikome na ZS nije bila potrebna.
Evo ovo. Kakav sam ja to problem napravio?
Ma, nisi. To sam ja izmislio.
Al i džihadisti su hajdžekovali avione jer su vidjeli na tv!
Ma, pre neko veče sam na TV (različitim) uzastopno gledao kako će da ubiju Predsednika, da ubiju Predsednika i da ubiju Predsednika... Svi originalni do bola. Mož' da biraš verziju. U minulih par godina bar još deset komada sličnih. Pa, kako ne ubiti Predsednika?
In the meantime, novi skandal u Ameriki. Nova knjiga Done Brazil (Donna Brazile) otkriva da je Klintonka zaista kontrolisala Demokratski nacionalni komitet (DNC) pre nego što je postala kandidat Demokratske stranke u izboru za predsednika. Ne bi Sanders dobio kandidaturu ni da se to nije desilo, falilo mu je mnogo glasova, ali razlika bi bila manja, ljudi bi videli da "treći put" ima vrlo solidnu potporu u društvu.
Most Powerful Country? How China Compares to the U.S. in Education, Wealth and World Influence (http://www.newsweek.com/most-powerful-country-how-china-compares-us-education-wealth-and-world-705561)
Ovo bi trebalo pre na Sitnice jezikoslovne, ali lepo se nadovezuje na Mehov post :lol:
http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=35334
Amerika je već odavno prešla liniju propasti i kreće se ka istoj. Sve dok debilizam Social Justice, Virtue signalinga i medijska, akademska i ekonomske elite na vlasti, ovako će i biti. Ekonomski su uništeni od strane korporacija koje su proizvodnju odneli u zemlje bogu iza nogu jer je jeftinije, cene nekretnina oterali u nebo, a većinu kljukaju plastičnim đubretom i to doslovce kljukaju, dok im istovremeno nude ideal lepote prosečnog sunećenog debila u vidu dupeta na platformama, na koji je nasađen pačiji kljun, tetovirane obrve i frizura azijatkinje sa sve sisama crnkinje (za neupućene to su sisterke Kardašijan), gedžete i outfit koji ima prave deca po fabrikama u Pakiju, Sajgonu i Čajni, obrazovanje preko stripova i filmova kojim ih programiraju, jezik im uništavaju "socijalne mreže" i nigga glish, a svaka normalnost se tretira kao neprijateljski čin. Ograničeni u svemu, ventil traže u piću i lako dostupnim drogama, a kako im je oružje dostupno, jer "libertardi" za sada nisu uspeli da promene ustav i kao u evropi ograniče oružje samo na državnu represiju ostavljajući ostalima da se poklone ili da ih ubiju bradati degeni ispranih mozgova, desi se da poneko prsne napravi masovni zločin. Koji da zlo bude veće, "libertardi" proglase terorizmom zarad jebene političke korektnosti.
Melting pot je na ivici eksplozije jer su libertardi dodali previše "začina" i podgrejali vatru.
Quote from: scallop on 06-11-2017, 11:58:39
Za Scordiska i Maca:
Sačekajte da se Aksentije vrati sa puta, a akhnaton živne.
Za Pizzobattoa:
Ako ne mogu da budu Dambo propalice bi da budu bar Rambo i stignu u novine. Džihad bi da se domogne hurija. Znam da će se insuficijencija adrenalina zdušno braniti da umetnost oponaša stvarnost, ali ja bih voleo neku statistiku koliko umetnost oponašaju zločinci. Imam snažan dojam da je umetnost generator zločinačkih ideja.
Mada bih i ja mogao da se pravim blesav, ali mi ne uspeva. :?
Umetnost imitira život, ali je i obratno. Uostalom, zar ne beše Džon Vilkis But glumac, i to ne baš uspešan? Zar ne reče ovako sa tiranima kada je onomad upucao Linkolna?
O onom što je bio "marksista-lenjinista", ali ne i komunista, kome su prišljamčili da je upucao predsednika, i policajsca, sve u istom danu, pa ga sutradan upucao vlasnik striptiz bara da se i ne govori. Mada, posmatrajući današnju histeriju "seksualno" uznemiravanih žena, muškaraca i trećepolaca kojom tresu Holivud, danas im ne bi trebao ni "patsy" niti bilo šta da izvrše impičment, a onaj nesrećnik što će mu za koji dan biti 54 godine od smrti ne bi u Beloj kući proveo ni dva dana, već bi ga raspomamljene feminaci i mediji zajedno sa njima razapeli za primer, kongresu bi ostalo samo da kaže "amin" i da donese ukaz o impičmentu, papa bi ga ekskomunicirao, porodica popljuvala jer je bio netolerantan i nasrtljiv prema ženama, a i zamerio se pripadnicima "rainbow" internacionale"....
U.S. Made Secret Deal With ISIS to Let Thousands of Fighters Flee Raqqa to Battle Assad in Syria, Former Ally Says (http://www.newsweek.com/us-secret-deal-isis-fighters-flee-battle-russia-syria-ally-742474)
Mislim, to smo ionako svi nagađali, al evo šta kaže taj Kurd. Naravno, biće tu sigurno optuživanja da on radi za Ruse i da je ovo fejk njuz.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 09-12-2017, 05:48:56
U.S. Made Secret Deal With ISIS to Let Thousands of Fighters Flee Raqqa to Battle Assad in Syria, Former Ally Says (http://www.newsweek.com/us-secret-deal-isis-fighters-flee-battle-russia-syria-ally-742474)
Mislim, to smo ionako svi nagađali, al evo šta kaže taj Kurd. Naravno, biće tu sigurno optuživanja da on radi za Ruse i da je ovo fejk njuz.
Mož da bidne fake, al ne mora da znači. Samo je primer "neprijatelj mog neprijatelja je moj prijatelj", što obično uključuje sađenje tikava sa đavolom. Ovog puta doslovno. Inače ni Rusija nije iskrena u svojoj borbi jer mora da vodi računa o 10% svog stanovništva, a to je preko 15 miliona potencijalnih bombaša samoubica čitaoca uputstva za teror.
The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at risk of hunger (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/12/the-silicon-valley-paradox-one-in-four-people-are-at-risk-of-hunger)
https://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2017/12/capital-question?cid1=cust/ddnew/email/n/n/20171218n/owned/n/n/ddnew/n/n/n/ne/Daily_Dispatch/email&etear=dailydispatch
Americans appear to be less averse to inequality than citizens of other rich countries. Lars Osberg and Insa Bechert of Dalhousie University found that the most inequality-averse 10% of Americans resemble the inequality-averse in other countries, favouring an earnings ratio between CEOs and unskilled labourers of about two to one. From there the gap widens: the most inequality-tolerant Americans see the ideal ratio as 50 to one; compared with 24 to one amongst the most inequality-tolerant in Britain. In Sweden the figure is five to one.
Why the difference? One reason may be that Americans don't realise how unequal incomes are. In common with the inhabitants of other wealthy countries, most Americans believe there is too much inequality. But they underestimate just how much of it there is. The average American puts the current ratio of CEO to unskilled worker pay at thirty-to-one; their preference is for about seven-to-one. But the actual CEO-unskilled wage ratio in America is 354 to one.
Izgezkli, mada jel moguće tries godina isto mnjenje a sve gora nejednakost, stupid Americans.
Čomski piso o istoj temi 1980neke. Ameri su čudo
SAD same u SB UN – Hejli: Glasanje uvreda koja se neće zaboraviti
http://webtribune.rs/sad-same-u-sb-un-hejli-glasanje-uvreda-koja-se-nece-zaboraviti/
Jao, jao, jao! Svima će teško da padne.
Imperija uzvraća udarac! nas-rofl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49kO8Baj-uI&feature=youtu.be
Hmm, ako je Jerusalim srce Izraela da li je onda i Kosovo srce Srbije?
Quote from: mac on 21-12-2017, 11:43:30
Hmm, ako je Jerusalim srce Izraela da li je onda i Kosovo srce Srbije?
Zavisi. Jerusalem,ili kako su ga tačnije zvali YRSLM je bio grad Jevuseja ili YBSAA koga je osvojio Elhanan, ili Elkanan, poznatiji kao David ubica Golijata i tvorac objedinjenog kraljevstva Izraelita. Inače u tom istom gradu je boravio i Melkisedek, koji je bio vrhovni sveštenik Adona Elohima u doba Avrama ili Abrahama, tačnije Abu Rahmana. Od Davidovog osvajanja grad postaje prestonica i san Jevreja, tj Izraelaca. Srce Izraela jeste Cion, ili Zion ili Sion, gora na kojoj je sagrađen Jerusalim/Jerusalem. Kao što je svoju najveću slavu Srbija stekla kada su joj prestonice bile u oblasti koja se zove Kosovo. Naravno, Amerikanci to jest vlast SAD nikada neće priznati grešku koju su učinili prema Srbiji, ali isto tako ni Srbija nikada neće sebi priznati da joj se sve ovo dešava jer ide u korist svoje štete gurajući se kao večiti sputnjik. Čitav proces pomaganja otimačima izgubljenog Kosova, započet je kao pomoć jednoj tačno definsanoj konfesionalnoj grupi, a koja inače predstavlja većinu u domicilnoj državi onih koji se vode i kao većina na Kosovu. Ta konfesionalna grupa je identična Palestinskoj.
UN votes 128-9 to condemn US Embassy move to Jerusalem even after Haley's warning (http://abcnews.go.com/US/haley-hints-us-pull-financial-support/story?id=51930124)
Čak smo im i mi zabli nož u leđa. Hrvati, mudro, uzdržani. Bosanci uzdržani. Makedonci se nisu ni izjasnili. Al mi i Crnogorci iskoristili priliku da šutnemo džina dok je na zemlji :lol:
Quote from: akhnaton on 21-12-2017, 22:58:53
Quote from: mac on 21-12-2017, 11:43:30
Hmm, ako je Jerusalim srce Izraela da li je onda i Kosovo srce Srbije?
Zavisi. Jerusalem,ili kako su ga tačnije zvali YRSLM je bio grad Jevuseja ili YBSAA koga je osvojio Elhanan, ili Elkanan, poznatiji kao David ubica Golijata i tvorac objedinjenog kraljevstva Izraelita. Inače u tom istom gradu je boravio i Melkisedek, koji je bio vrhovni sveštenik Adona Elohima u doba Avrama ili Abrahama, tačnije Abu Rahmana. Od Davidovog osvajanja grad postaje prestonica i san Jevreja, tj Izraelaca. Srce Izraela jeste Cion, ili Zion ili Sion, gora na kojoj je sagrađen Jerusalim/Jerusalem. Kao što je svoju najveću slavu Srbija stekla kada su joj prestonice bile u oblasti koja se zove Kosovo. Naravno, Amerikanci to jest vlast SAD nikada neće priznati grešku koju su učinili prema Srbiji, ali isto tako ni Srbija nikada neće sebi priznati da joj se sve ovo dešava jer ide u korist svoje štete gurajući se kao večiti sputnjik. Čitav proces pomaganja otimačima izgubljenog Kosova, započet je kao pomoć jednoj tačno definsanoj konfesionalnoj grupi, a koja inače predstavlja većinu u domicilnoj državi onih koji se vode i kao većina na Kosovu. Ta konfesionalna grupa je identična Palestinskoj.
Нема никаквих опипљивих доказа за Јарусалим, све су то јеврејске рекла казала фантазије.
Баљезгање о томе да је Јерусалим наше Косово је лансирао наркоман Вук Драшковић.
Слава Србије је непролазна, па била јој престоница Скадар, Призрен, Крушевац, Деспотовац, Смедерево или ратни Крагујевац.
Проблеми у Србији настају тек са Београдом као престоницом.
Ако гледамо скорију историју - отимачина Косова није започела као помагање једној конфесионалној групи, већ као помагање једној криминалној групи наркодилера.
А то што имаш неподељене симпатије према онима који вуку све потезе против човечанства, то је нека друга ствар, која наводи на помисао да славиш хануку.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 22-12-2017, 06:21:05
UN votes 128-9 to condemn US Embassy move to Jerusalem even after Haley's warning (http://abcnews.go.com/US/haley-hints-us-pull-financial-support/story?id=51930124)
Čak smo im i mi zabli nož u leđa. Hrvati, mudro, uzdržani. Bosanci uzdržani. Makedonci se nisu ni izjasnili. Al mi i Crnogorci iskoristili priliku da šutnemo džina dok je na zemlji :lol:
Чуј забили нож у леђа америки?
Кад смо ми то па били са њима у лизању, па смо иих сада као издали и забили им нож у леђа?
Ми гледамо наш интерес, а наш интерес и амерички интерес нису у истој равни.
Они су наши непријатељи, а овим шаљемо и јасну поруку лажној џудајској држави Израел, која је такође наш непријатељ.
Quote from: Аксентије Новаковић on 22-12-2017, 11:52:17
Quote from: akhnaton on 21-12-2017, 22:58:53
Quote from: mac on 21-12-2017, 11:43:30
Hmm, ako je Jerusalim srce Izraela da li je onda i Kosovo srce Srbije?
Zavisi. Jerusalem,ili kako su ga tačnije zvali YRSLM je bio grad Jevuseja ili YBSAA koga je osvojio Elhanan, ili Elkanan, poznatiji kao David ubica Golijata i tvorac objedinjenog kraljevstva Izraelita. Inače u tom istom gradu je boravio i Melkisedek, koji je bio vrhovni sveštenik Adona Elohima u doba Avrama ili Abrahama, tačnije Abu Rahmana. Od Davidovog osvajanja grad postaje prestonica i san Jevreja, tj Izraelaca. Srce Izraela jeste Cion, ili Zion ili Sion, gora na kojoj je sagrađen Jerusalim/Jerusalem. Kao što je svoju najveću slavu Srbija stekla kada su joj prestonice bile u oblasti koja se zove Kosovo. Naravno, Amerikanci to jest vlast SAD nikada neće priznati grešku koju su učinili prema Srbiji, ali isto tako ni Srbija nikada neće sebi priznati da joj se sve ovo dešava jer ide u korist svoje štete gurajući se kao večiti sputnjik. Čitav proces pomaganja otimačima izgubljenog Kosova, započet je kao pomoć jednoj tačno definsanoj konfesionalnoj grupi, a koja inače predstavlja većinu u domicilnoj državi onih koji se vode i kao većina na Kosovu. Ta konfesionalna grupa je identična Palestinskoj.
Нема никаквих опипљивих доказа за Јарусалим, све су то јеврејске рекла казала фантазије.
Баљезгање о томе да је Јерусалим наше Косово је лансирао наркоман Вук Драшковић.
Слава Србије је непролазна, па била јој престоница Скадар, Призрен, Крушевац, Деспотовац, Смедерево или ратни Крагујевац.
Проблеми у Србији настају тек са Београдом као престоницом.
Ако гледамо скорију историју - отимачина Косова није започела као помагање једној конфесионалној групи, већ као помагање једној криминалној групи наркодилера.
А то што имаш неподељене симпатије према онима који вуку све потезе против човечанства, то је нека друга ствар, која наводи на помисао да славиш хануку.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 22-12-2017, 06:21:05
UN votes 128-9 to condemn US Embassy move to Jerusalem even after Haley's warning (http://abcnews.go.com/US/haley-hints-us-pull-financial-support/story?id=51930124)
Čak smo im i mi zabli nož u leđa. Hrvati, mudro, uzdržani. Bosanci uzdržani. Makedonci se nisu ni izjasnili. Al mi i Crnogorci iskoristili priliku da šutnemo džina dok je na zemlji :lol:
Они су наши непријатељи, а овим шаљемо и јасну поруку лажној џудајској држави Израел, која је такође наш непријатељ.
Slažem se samo sa time da problemi onoga što sebe želi da nazove Srbijom nastaju od kako su proglasili Singidunum svojom prestonicom.
Što se tiče šasua plemena IšRaEl-a, ne mrzim ih, i ne smatram ih neprijateljima sveta. i da, ne slavim Hanuku. Ali isto tako ne slavim ni 20 april. A još manje ramazane i bajrame.
Jednostavno, svaki potez koji je prst u oko miljenicima SJW, Feminaci, Progresivista i ostalih podržavam. Što se tiče ovog poslednjeg, a što sam podvukao crvenim, tvoji neprijatelji pamte JudenFrei, pamte Brozovo lizanje guzica arapima, pamte školovanje i obuku Hamasa, pa ipak ne priznaju otimanje srpske teritorije.
Quote from: mac on 21-12-2017, 11:43:30
Hmm, ako je Jerusalim srce Izraela da li je onda i Kosovo srce Srbije?
Вук Драшковић: ПРВИ САМ признао Јерусалим! http://www.vidovdan.org/2017/12/08/vuk-draskovic-prvi-sam-priznao-jerusalim/
Quote from: Аксентије Новаковић on 22-12-2017, 12:42:34
Quote from: mac on 21-12-2017, 11:43:30
Hmm, ako je Jerusalim srce Izraela da li je onda i Kosovo srce Srbije?
Вук Драшковић: ПРВИ САМ признао Јерусалим!
http://www.vidovdan.org/2017/12/08/vuk-draskovic-prvi-sam-priznao-jerusalim/
Mora da je popio roze pilule..
Quote from: akhnaton on 22-12-2017, 12:47:01
Quote from: Аксентије Новаковић on 22-12-2017, 12:42:34
Quote from: mac on 21-12-2017, 11:43:30
Hmm, ako je Jerusalim srce Izraela da li je onda i Kosovo srce Srbije?
Вук Драшковић: ПРВИ САМ признао Јерусалим!
http://www.vidovdan.org/2017/12/08/vuk-draskovic-prvi-sam-priznao-jerusalim/
Mora da je popio roze pilule..
Нашмркани наркоман.
Quote from: Аксентије Новаковић on 22-12-2017, 12:48:58
Quote from: akhnaton on 22-12-2017, 12:47:01
Quote from: Аксентије Новаковић on 22-12-2017, 12:42:34
Quote from: mac on 21-12-2017, 11:43:30
Hmm, ako je Jerusalim srce Izraela da li je onda i Kosovo srce Srbije?
Вук Драшковић: ПРВИ САМ признао Јерусалим!
http://www.vidovdan.org/2017/12/08/vuk-draskovic-prvi-sam-priznao-jerusalim/
Mora da je popio roze pilule..
Нашмркани наркоман.
I pilule su u pitanju, ne samo šmrkanje...
Quote from: akhnaton on 22-12-2017, 12:41:02
A još manje ramazane i bajrame.
Пази ово, једном браћа, увек браћа, а то је испитивањима доказао и Кљосов.
Neočekivana veza: Arheolozi pronašli kovanice iz ranog islamskog doba s ugraviranom menoromArheolozi su nedavno otkrili kako se poznati oblik židovskog svijećnjaka – menore – nalazi ugraviran na kovanicama koje su pripadale ranoj islamskoj kulturi prije 1300 godina.
Kovanice datiraju iz perioda dinastije Umayyad, između 7. i 8. stoljeća, a pronađene su na više arheoloških nalazišta u Izraelu te su izložene javnosti.
,,Židovski simbol kojeg su muslimani koristili, je menora [zlatni sedmerostruki svijećnjak iz Hrama], koji se pojavio na nekoliko kovanica i drugim rijetkim islamskim artefaktima," objasnio je Assaf Avraham, arheolog sa Sveučilišta Bar-Ilan.
,,Kovanice s menorom nose arapski natpis na jednoj strani: 'Nema boga osim Allaha', dok se menora pojavljuje u središtu kovanice. S druge strane nalazi se natpis: 'Muhamed je glasnik Boga."
http://tribun.hr/neocekivana-veza-arheolozi-pronasli-kovanice-iz-ranog-islamskog-doba-s-ugraviranom-menorom/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5bnlmimzQU
Quote from: akhnaton on 22-12-2017, 12:41:02Što se tiče ovog poslednjeg, a što sam podvukao crvenim, tvoji neprijatelji pamte JudenFrei, pamte Brozovo lizanje guzica arapima, pamte školovanje i obuku Hamasa
Памте они и преко 300 протеривања из европских земаља, па се зато данас свете Европи.
(https://s10.postimg.org/al9ych7p5/jews-mass-immigration.jpg)
Quote from: akhnaton on 22-12-2017, 12:41:02pa ipak ne priznaju otimanje srpske teritorije.
Зато што им није у интересу да то тренутно ураде, јер имају проблем са Јарусалимом.
Evo neceg pozitivng!
Nije zajebancija, tip zivi u BG!
Extra!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPdmUVDylX0
Ameri mi lepo objasniše:
Demokratija je kad šef države i vlada ne znaju ništa o akcijama tajnih službi. Kad znaju onda je režim totalitaran.
Gledao sam i njihov sjajan film u kome je sve znao pukovnik koga niko nije znao, ali ne mogu da se setim naslova.
Chinese Workers Abandon Silicon Valley for Riches Back Home (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-10/chinese-workers-abandon-silicon-valley-for-riches-back-home)
Neka mi neko nadje jednu jedinu rec koja ovde nije istinita,
placam pivo, cim se preselim u Bejograd!
Zajecarsko, ladno!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WECjvFrXQwI
New California declares "independence" from rest of state (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-california-declares-independence-from-rest-of-state/)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 17-01-2018, 06:12:52
New California declares "independence" from rest of state (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-california-declares-independence-from-rest-of-state/)
Nemo' zezas!?!? Ovo istinski 'el sajt za zaebanciju!?!?
SiBiEs, ozbiljan sajt. Ali, za razliku od raznih teksaških separatista ovi ne žele da se odcijepe od SAD, samo da ne budu deo Kalifornije kakva je sada.
Cherry picking, just like all liberal snowflakes :D
Sve neki Torlaci. Sjebali staklaru, pardon obalu, pukotina St. Andreas će ionako da se odvali. Piće vino, a ne pivo. Divota jedna. Bauk separatizma luta Zemljom. Sve pare idu u Los Aranđelovac...
Pazi sad, Meho Smiljaniću. Mogao bih na ovom primeru da ti objasnim, ali pitanje je da li imaš živaca. U poslednjih trideset i više godina može da se prepozna format, model, pa i ključ čitanja neoliberalizma. Zato u njemu i vidim bauka koji kruži našim svetom. Doduše, moglo bi se postaviti i pitanje imam li ja živaca.
Ja svakako imam živaca da ti ispišeš objašnjenje :lol: Tako da, samo napred.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 17-01-2018, 10:46:08
Ja svakako imam živaca da ti ispišeš objašnjenje :lol: Tako da, samo napred.
Ne sviđa mi se. Daj malo podsticajnije.
Skalope, neka znanje i stavovi iz tebe pokuljaju kao čuveni gejzir u Jeloustonskom nacionalnom parku "Stari verni"!!!!!!
https://youtu.be/4mZY7uxb7Gc
podsticaj
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Quote from: Ugly MF on 17-01-2018, 11:05:43
podsticaj
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Manastirka? Uff... ala bi legla, kao podsticaj....
Ma to ja i komsija sacekivali smecare, izbacili kante, okrepili se s' ljudima, pa ovekovecili nasu zdravicu :)
Da je Amer'ka 'vakva, ne bi propala!
Sad je bolje. :!:
POGLEDI IZ IZANĐALOG UMA
Tokom šezdesetih godina prošlog veka dva događaja kojima sam prisustvovao nisu u meni ostavila ništa osim maglovitog sećanja da bi mi danas delovali kao ključni. Vremenom sam naučio da se promene lagano privlače, ali da u svakoj koja će ostaviti dugoročne posledice postoji prelomna tačka (tipping point).
Negde početkom te decenije bio sam u grupi koja je posetila pivaru u Gracu. Pivara kao i svaka druga, ali sam zapamtio da je gazda za svoje radnike uredio neku vrstu rekreativnog prostora, park sa bazenom, suncobranima i dobro snabdevenom kantinom. Tada sam samo pomislio da je lepo biti radnik u Gracu. Preskočiću Tržišnu reformu u SFRJ koja je označila da se mora ući u nadmetanje ako se želi napredovanje. 1968. godine bio sam mrtav umoran od rada u fabrici UTVA u Pančevu da bih registrovao studentske demonstracije u Beogradu. O svemu me je obavestio kum iz Lučana, koji je došao u Beograd da uzme učešće.
Pivara u Gracu označila je da svet ide u pravcu jake socijalne države. Takozvana participacija gde je udeo u firmi postao važan stimulans, obavezao je radničku klasu na veće zalaganje. Postala je subjekat umesto objekta. Oluja koja je uključila mlade pokazala je da će se uvek tražiti više. Crveni Rudi Dučke je protresao svet, ali je istovremeno generisao ideju da su masovna okupljanja dobro sredstvo i za manipulaciju. Jaka socijalna država je dovela do stagflacije, a Rudi Dučke do "narandžastih revolucija". Nikada u događanjima ništa nije sasvim loše, ali ništa ni sasvim dobro. Otada koristim izreku da "dobar sir uvek ima rupe".
Objava pojma stagflacije, u poslednjim godinama šezdesetih, najavila je početak sukoba između dve ekonomske škole kapitalizma. Racionalnija se zadovoljavala finansiranjem mira u socijalnoj državi iz inflacije, radikalnija se izjasnila za burnija privredna događanja. Tačka je stavljena izbornim pobedama Margaret Tačer i Ronalda Regana, opredeljenih za drugo učenje. Na pozornici se pojavio neoliberalizam.
Jel' naporno?
Quote from: scallop on 17-01-2018, 11:36:12
Sad je bolje. :!:
POGLEDI IZ IZANĐALOG UMA
Tokom šezdesetih godina prošlog veka dva događaja kojima sam prisustvovao nisu u meni ostavila ništa osim maglovitog sećanja da bi mi danas delovali kao ključni. Vremenom sam naučio da se promene lagano privlače, ali da u svakoj koja će ostaviti dugoročne posledice postoji prelomna tačka (tipping point).
Negde početkom te decenije bio sam u grupi koja je posetila pivaru u Gracu. Pivara kao i svaka druga, ali sam zapamtio da je gazda za svoje radnike uredio neku vrstu rekreativnog prostora, park sa bazenom, suncobranima i dobro snabdevenom kantinom. Tada sam samo pomislio da je lepo biti radnik u Gracu. Preskočiću Tržišnu reformu u SFRJ koja je označila da se mora ući u nadmetanje ako se želi napredovanje. 1968. godine bio sam mrtav umoran od rada u fabrici UTVA u Pančevu da bih registrovao studentske demonstracije u Beogradu. O svemu me je obavestio kum iz Lučana, koji je došao u Beograd da uzme učešće.
Pivara u Gracu označila je da svet ide u pravcu jake socijalne države. Takozvana participacija gde je udeo u firmi postao važan stimulans, obavezao je radničku klasu na veće zalaganje. Postala je subjekat umesto objekta. Oluja koja je uključila mlade pokazala je da će se uvek tražiti više. Crveni Rudi Dučke je protresao svet, ali je istovremeno generisao ideju da su masovna okupljanja dobro sredstvo i za manipulaciju. Jaka socijalna država je dovela do stagflacije, a Rudi Dučke do "narandžastih revolucija". Nikada u događanjima ništa nije sasvim loše, ali ništa ni sasvim dobro. Otada koristim izreku da "dobar sir uvek ima rupe".
Objava pojma stagflacije, u poslednjim godinama šezdesetih, najavila je početak sukoba između dve ekonomske škole kapitalizma. Racionalnija se zadovoljavala finansiranjem mira u socijalnoj državi iz inflacije, radikalnija se izjasnila za burnija privredna događanja. Tačka je stavljena izbornim pobedama Margaret Tačer i Ronalda Regana, opredeljenih za drugo učenje. Na pozornici se pojavio neoliberalizam.
Jel' naporno?
Ma kakvi, samo nastavite...
Nije naporno, nego razmišljam da je možda moglo na topik o neoliberalizmu što ga je Bata otvorio onomad...
...uffff,,ja bi radije da tu epohu citam opisivanu od Bukovskog, al ajd...
..onaj je izandjao nesto drugo.....
P.S.
;)
Za'ebavam se scallopeeeee, nemo se ljutis!!!
Bata i ja imamo oprečan pristup. On u svemu vidi kontinuirani proces i brzo odvede tamo gde je on potkovan. Ja pokušavam da prepoznam ključne momente.
U Bukovski modu pišem u rakijama, pivu, vinu i drugim šljemanjima. Ko Tito sam - ništa ljudsko mi nije strano.
Pa eo, ta pivara je neoliberalna.
Quote from: Pizzobatto on 17-01-2018, 12:16:40
Pa eo, ta pivara je neoliberalna.
Rekoh ja da nemaš pojma šta je neoliberalizam. :?
Da ta pivara nije neoliberalna, a praktično sve u Austriji je neoliberalno, ideologija i ne bi imala tu snagu koju ima.
Ona nije tek agresivno izrabljivačka, to možda u Srbiji, već deproleterizuje, pretvara radnike u preduzetnike i menadžere.
Kao vlasnik dionica ili tim menadžer, radnik više nije proleter. Čisti neoliberalizam.
Pa ja spomenuh Ristova, čoek tvrdi da svako treba da ima kuću i baštu.
Nije čudo što Bata ne zna. Sad će stigne do personalne argumentacije. Uvek posegne za nekim imenom. E, pa, ni Ameri nemaju pojma šta je neoliberalizam. Letos sam sedeo u kafanskoj bašti u Jenksu, Oklahoma i pio razna piva sa prijateljem. Prof. dr i tako to, a kad sam pomenuo neoliberalizam, ni da bekne. "To ne postoji". Zna za liberalizam, zna za libertarijance, ali svetski naziv ne zna. Isti Bata. Jedna od osnovnih metoda neoliberalizma je prikrivanje. I tako, popijemo ljuto pivo sa habanerom, pokušamo da ispravimo sa slatkim od ananasa, vratimo se normalnom lokalnom seljačkom pivu, batalimo neoliberalizam i pređemo na kombinacije za pivo koje ćemo sami da napravimo.
Tako, ako me bude zaskakivao, počeće ZS pljuvačina i niša od pameti.
Šta je to personalna argumentacija? Kad neko nije čitao nijednog neoliberala a tvrdi da zna šta je neoliberalizam?
Sam si rekao da je to stimulans za radnike, ako ne shvataš da je to stimulans za uvećanje performansa i kompetitivnosti zahvaljujući dioničarskim mrvicama sa stola, a da u stvari to podstiče takozvano menadžerisanje ljudskog kapitala, onda na čitanje, zaista.
Stvarno ne vidim oko čega se vodi ova rasprava
Dao sam primer iz 1964. godine. Zvezdani trenuci kejnzijanstva. Radnik kao partner. Neoliberalizam je radnik kao roba. Jadni tvoji budući studenti.
Šta bi trebalo da mi znači ta godina kad je Karl Menger objavio prvu neoliberalnu knjigu 1871. godine?
Neoliberalizam gotovo komplet koncipiran prije 1941.
I ponovljam džaba izgleda, Austrija je kolijevka neoliberalizma, kakva Amerika, tamo su samo reciklirali.
Menger, Mizes, Hajek
Misliš džaba je dvojicu od ove trojice štampao Službeni glasnik pod uredničkom palicom Ilije Vujačića, starog neolib vedete?
Ne, nego Fridmana klovna da štampaju.
(https://www.shtreber.com/uploads_gallery/originals/Istorija/5.%20razred/Praistorija/%C4%8Covek%20praistorije,%20pojava%20prvih%20zajednica/i53_crtezi_u_pecinama_altamira.jpg?1469042354708)
Neoliberalizam seže do Altamire, Laska i drugih pećina. Vlasnici udarali šakom adresu.
Doneli ga vanzemaljci, Anunaki udarili temelje. Ajde, ne budali više.
Ko ne shvata da se neoliberalizam svakome uvukao pod nos, i misli da ništa što čini ili misli nije prikriveni neoliberalizam, ko se ne samopreispituje taj neka ostane da živi pod tim zvonom.
Pivara u Gracu neoliberalizam kano klisurine.
Pivara u Gracu je kejnzijanska. Neoliberalizam mi je izašao na nos pre više od deset godina.
Polako se svodi na ZS mentalitet. Svejedno koja je tema. Od silne pameti trese se forum. Hvala Bogu, da sam izašao na kraj sa Vikinzima. Stiglo do ganglija da su prvo morali na Sever da bi sišli do Juga. Sa poznavaocima klimavih klimnih pretpostavki je već teže. A i to je neoliberalna opcija. O fantastičnoj literaturi da ne govorim. Scenosledi i atmosfera, a sve pomenute scenoslede je demantovao sam ideolog. Na kraju, krkanje. Volim ja da svi kuvaju bolje od mene, to mi je i bio cilj. Rus way. :shock:
Polako se svodi na to da neoliberalizam živi od korisnih lažnih kritičara koji neoliberalizmu Miltona Fridmana suprotstavljaju neoliberalizam pivare u Gracu, moralni kapitalizam, humanu ekonomiju i ostale neoliberalne fantazije. A ono Repke napisao knjigu Humane Economy.
Tako sve ostane u familiji. Dođe neoliberal i 2008. kaže neoliberalizam je mrtav, slobodno tržište je haotično i stvara nered, treba ga urediti i nadgledati, treba moralizovati tržišne aktere, wallstreet bailout je praktično kejnzijanizam.
Tako je Merkelova kritikovala Buša. Ko u to ne sumnja tome je i Merkel kejnzijanac i humani kapitalista.
A ono neoliberal neoliberalu mazi muda, a pred svijetom se kao lažno suprotstavljaju, kao u američkom rvanju.
I još je najbolje kad ne shvataju da su rođaci, kao naš dragi scallop i njegova pivara.
ZS mentalitet, šta je to, kad neko uporno ne shvata da mu Bata daje dobronamjerni savjet.
P. S. Kad sam reko da smo svi pogođeni neoliberalizmom, tako sam i mislio. Apsolutno svi, pa i mua. Ima da spiramo govna godinama, al nećemo niđe stići ako si baš navalio da se držiš neoliberalne pivare.
Ako je iko shvatio šta Bata napiše neka me obavesti.
Nije toliko komplikovano, samo treba pristati na malu sječu sujete.
Neoliberalizam nije monolitna jedinstvena ideologija nego je sastavljena od više doktrina koje su u lažnom sukobu.
Tako pred publikom negativac bude poražen a sve je namještaljka kao u američkom rvanju.
Prihvatiti jednu doktrinu naspram druge i misliti da niste neoliberal, pa to je upravo pozicija lažne svijesti koja dominira.
Laburisti, Demokrate, Socijal Demokrate, čak su i gori neoliberali od konzervativaca, Republikanaca ili Štrahea. Tramp, Makron, nebitno, u stvari Tramp je još najmanje neoliberal. Putin, Siriza, socijalistička internacionala borisa tadića i gerharda šredera, apsolutno.
Otvorite školjku, otvorite oči!
Pojma nemaš. Politička orijentacija je u suprotnosti sa neoliberalizmom. Neoliberalizmu je suvišna i država, a kamoli političke partije.
Potpuno obrnuto. Država stvara i upravlja tržištem.
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A kako će "konkurencija biti što efikasnija"?
Vidjeti pivaru u Gracu.
Dobro, stani malo na loptu ili, ako već oćeš da polemišeš, polemiši malko sistematičnije. Iz ovog svega što si krenuo da iznosiš čovek može da pomisli da je neoliberalizam svaki sistem u kome ekonomija nije 100% komandna a to verovatno nije poenta koju pokušavaš da napraviš.
Drugo, jasno je da su neoliberalne ideje starije od Regana i Tačerke i da su već sa objektivizmom bile romansirane i izdignute na nivo nekakvog herojskog narativa, ali sa Reganom i Tačerkom si dobio implementaciju u dve velike ekonomije, prvi put posle Drugog svetskog rata. Daj da čujemo šta dalje Skalop hoće da napiše pa lagano polemišimo o tome.
Takođe, da li je radnik bio proleter u samoupravljanju, kada je, nominalno upravljao politikim preduzeća?
Hvala da si se dosetio. Što se tiče neoliberalizma, negde sa mojim pričama o Svemirskim ciganima, dominantno mesto ima TriK uređenje. Tri kompanije. Društveno funkcionisanje bez politike. I tu ima bar 30 godina. Sasvim je logično da država ometa kapital. Pravila tako znaju da iznerviraju. Porezi, restrikcije, karteli, monopoli... Tako je lepo bez svega toga. Država je zgodna samo ako nam puknu projekti, pa se zavapi za pravilom "to big to fall". Međutim, sad mi više nije po volji da nastavim sa pričom.
Meho, al ja sam odma reko sve sistematćno!
Quote from: Pizzobatto on 17-01-2018, 13:07:52
Sam si rekao da je to stimulans za radnike, ako ne shvataš da je to stimulans za uvećanje performansa i kompetitivnosti zahvaljujući dioničarskim mrvicama sa stola, a da u stvari to podstiče takozvano menadžerisanje ljudskog kapitala, onda na čitanje, zaista.
Nači, cilj samoupravljanja nije uvećanje performansa i kompetitivnosti, jer npr tvoja i macova omiljena ekološka tema ne šljaka u takvoj ekonomiji, no svakome prema potrebama.
A ovo nisu potrebe kad neko uslovljava kakav ćeš "ljucki kapital" da razvijaš, jer to su npr edukaciona investiranja u poslove koje služe kompetitivnosti tržišta, a ne, recimo, kulturi i umjetnosti, sem kao jednokratne robe.
Neoliberalizam tutne ljudima dionice zarad čiste ekonomske motivacije, "stimulansa", samoupravljanje ne treba da služi ekonomiji već je ekonomija ta koja je podređena.
Koješta. Nisam video gore lupetanje o ekonomskoj politici.
Ali da li je svaki deoničarski kapitalizam istovremeno neoliberalizam (kao što deluje da sugerišeš)? Čini mi se da mnogo đonom ideš i ne dopuštaš nijanse?
Svaki kapitalizam koji vještački uvećava kompetitivnost i performans radnika je neoliberalan.
To kapitalizam ne mora da radi, što se vidi iz tabele s druge teme.
Operativno okruženje neoklasike je tržište, a neoliberala društvo/tržište.
To znači da se uvode ideje ljuckog i socijalnog kapitala koji su za njih faktori proizvodnje. A to opet znači da se petljaju u neekonomske sfere i kolonizuju ih, to jest nameću sopstvene ekonomske imperative u neekonomskim oblastima.
Pa valjda bar Habermasa ponekad spomenu ti tvoji liberali.
Radnik ne može da hoće da proda svoju radnu snagu na osam sati no se različitim metodama zajaše cjelodnevno. Stimulišeš ga dionicama, ili ga vodi tim menadžer i brine o njegovom tadovoljstvu na poslu, da još radiš s osmjehom, pa čim si zadovoljan i nasmijan može i prekovremeno.
Marks se žalio na fabričku despotiju, al sad bi je od blata pravio. Prvo te slažu da voliš svoj poso a onda ti podvale Sunđer Boba.
Eto ti razlike između klasičnog i neoliberalnog kapitalizma. Lignjoslav!
Npr, imaš ogromno deoničarsko društvo i hoćeš da zaposliš direktora, al ne da direktor radi za platu nego za dividende. Pokloniš mu dionice i od njega zavisi koliko će godišnje da zaradi.
To je vještačka motivacija i računa na svačiji sebičluk i gramzivost.
Tako dobijamo Fridmanovo cut-throat competition, al uz jedan dobar fazon. Fridman čak i ne tvrdi da je kompeticija princip organizacihe tržišta. On je napisao bukvalno "voluntary cooperation".
Npr u knjizi Free to choose bukvalno tako piše. Postoje dva principa organizacije na planeti, jedno je command, drugo je voluntary cooperation. I još pride Fridman kaže da naravno da društva zasnovana samo na dobrovoljnoj saradnji ne garantuju prosperitet.
Kakvo ba slobodno tržište, uvalili su se totalitarno, kibernetički u naše živote, sve je ljucki kapital, a scallop se još drži pivare u Gracu.
To je inače dobar fazon, ima jedan lik koji tvrdi da je Wikipedia način proizvodnje znanja sličan komunizmu. Geri Beker neoliberalčina dođe i kaže: Wikipedia je tržište ideja. Kako i nije kad je stvoreno with voluntary cooperation.
Prelomite mozak i polako vadite neolib eksere, it's everywhere, braćala.
Mnogo nabacuješ stvari, teško je pratiti te. Mislim da ti je Vikipedija pogrešan primer. Ko tu zarađuje, i od koga?
Zašto bi neko morao da zarađuje? Beker će ti reći da samo neka tržišta imaju finansijsku kompenzaciju, uopšte nije bitno za neoliberalizam da li postoji novac na tržištu, već samo satisfakcija što na njemu učestvuješ.
U stvari, Hajek ni ne koristi termin tržište no spontani poredak, i sve može biti spontani poredak, jezik koji nastaje spontano, samo društvo itd. Naravno, wikipedia je odličan primjer jer se vidi pritajeni totalitarizam, nema novca ali pristaješ na laž da to znanhe nastaje spontano, a ne debelo kontrolisano.
Pokušaj da promijeniš neku stavku na tom slobodnom tržištu ideja, ne može ni neoliberalizam da se definiše kako treba. Prva dva-tri pasusa na wiki sve samo free market, poslije već piše pa i nije baš. Fake news nad fake newsovima, kakav Tramp, čoek je apostol istine za ove dijabole.
Dobro, meni je sad jasnije šta Bata hoće da kaže, samo nisam siguran je li to neoliberalizam ili nešto drugo. Al dobro, nije da je meni toliko bitno da okačim etiketu.
Naravno da to nije neoliberalizam. Kad konačno utuli možda ću se ponovo javiti, a možda i neću.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 17-01-2018, 19:33:25
Dobro, meni je sad jasnije šta Bata hoće da kaže, samo nisam siguran je li to neoliberalizam ili nešto drugo. Al dobro, nije da je meni toliko bitno da okačim etiketu.
Pa to je Beker brate, Nobelovac, o čemu pričamo, da je neoliberalizam ono što nam neki neoliberalni New York Times kaže da je neoliberalizam?
Inače, i to je fazon, izmislili su Nobelovu nagradu za ekonomiju iako im porodica Nobel nikad to nije ni odobrila. Čak ni Wiki ne može da sakrije da je to nagrada švecke banke koju lažno zovu Nobelova. I onda lijepo dijele jedni drugima.
Imaš istu dilemu kao i ja i bilo ko kad tek se zagrebe neolib govance, a ima da smrdi kad se iskopa malo više.
Scallop može da priča šta god oće, ovo je sve nesporna istina. Nabaciću na dtugoj temi nešto literature koja to nedvosmisleno dokazuje.
Scallop više neće da priča. Jebe mu se pošto vas je Bata obavestio.
Ne znam čemu takvo ponašanje... U stvari znam, ali malo besmisleno pričati, kad sam već rekao da neoliberalizam nameće kompetitivnost svuda, treba pobijediti u forumskoj raspravi, imati najposjećeniji blog, najbolje igrati komp igre, biti u takmičarskom fazonu i u sportu i u zvezdama granda i u velikom bratu, čitava kultura je kompetitivna, politika ne može sa bude rasprava već konkurencija, svako treba da uvećava performans, pa makar sposobnost nalaženja paprika na pijaci.
I onda treba prihvatiti sebe kao silom neoliberalizovanog i to je upravo tvoj problem sada.
To je i moj i svačiji problem. Ovo sranje je duboko i svi smo umazani. Nastojati da negiraš da si umazan je neoliberalizam sam po sebi.
Ne, ti si slobodan, jesi vala.
Nadmetanje postoji koliko i rodovska zajednica. Definitivno ne određuje postojanje ili nepostojanje neoliberalizma. Ako neoliberalizam postoji oduvek, onda nam je prirođen kao sluh ili vid i zašto ima posebno ime?
Quote from: scallop on 17-01-2018, 21:59:46
Nadmetanje postoji koliko i rodovska zajednica.
I miš ima mozak, pa?
Quote from: scallop on 17-01-2018, 21:59:46
Nadmetanje postoji koliko i rodovska zajednica. Definitivno ne određuje postojanje ili nepostojanje neoliberalizma. Ako neoliberalizam postoji oduvek, onda nam je prirođen kao sluh ili vid i zašto ima posebno ime?
ovo sam skoro pročitao:
"u svrhu stalnog podizanja produktivnosti rada, ostvarenja socijalističkog principa plaćanja prema količini i kakvoći rada i razvijanja radnog takmičenja kao metode socijalističkog rada, obavezno je uvođenje radnih normi na svim poslovima na kojima se radni učinak može mjeriti."
uredba o radnim normama (opšte odredbe, član 1), potpisao Tito lično, pročitao u knjizi "Osnovi organizacije proizvodnje u industrijskim poduzećima", autora ing. Dragutina Domainka, objavljeno u Zagrebu 1949.
Ma neoliberalno nadmetanje u kamenom dobu. Šta će nam Mića Milovanović kad i miš ima mozak i će napravi hidroenergiju.
Jeste, bacali su kamena s ramena u praistoriji i to znači da neoliberalizam nije fokusiran na razvoj kompetitivnosti.
Sve jasno, nema šta, miki maus i ti fazoni, skontali smo
Quote from: tomat on 17-01-2018, 22:57:21
Quote from: scallop on 17-01-2018, 21:59:46
Nadmetanje postoji koliko i rodovska zajednica. Definitivno ne određuje postojanje ili nepostojanje neoliberalizma. Ako neoliberalizam postoji oduvek, onda nam je prirođen kao sluh ili vid i zašto ima posebno ime?
ovo sam skoro pročitao:
"u svrhu stalnog podizanja produktivnosti rada, ostvarenja socijalističkog principa plaćanja prema količini i kakvoći rada i razvijanja radnog takmičenja kao metode socijalističkog rada, obavezno je uvođenje radnih normi na svim poslovima na kojima se radni učinak može mjeriti."
uredba o radnim normama (opšte odredbe, član 1), potpisao Tito lično, pročitao u knjizi "Osnovi organizacije proizvodnje u industrijskim poduzećima", autora ing. Dragutina Domainka, objavljeno u Zagrebu 1949.
Ni to me ne čudi. Nije to sad neki bog zna kakav neoliberalizam, ali ekonomska rasprava o socijalizmu je vođena tridesetih godina i socijalista Fric Lange je pokazao da je moguće alocirati resurse u komandnoj ekonomiji, a neoliberali su tvrdili da se to neće desiti jer odlučujuću ulogu igraju preduzetnici i motivacija svih aktera.
Naravno, činjenica da neoliberali dolaze iz Austro-Ugarske, kao i da su neki poput Miler-Armaka radili za Hitlera, neki ekonomista iz NDH da ubacuje takve stvari me ne čudi, mada je to samo jedan citat.
Treba vidjeti kompletan kontekst, kao i napomenuti da neoliberalizam priprema za kompetitivnost u svim sferama života, ne samo u fabrici.
U klasičnom liberalizmu bio si pod disciplinom u vojsci, školi, bolnici, fabrici, tako tim ustanovama, sad nema gdje nisi kontrolisan.
Kompetitivnost ne može niti treba da se ukida, ali da joj se znaju granice
"Ovo se odlično vidi u pitanju plata: fabrika je bila skup ljudi čije su unutrašnje snage dostigle ravnotežu između najviše moguće proizvodnje i najnižih mogućih plata; ali u društvima kontrole preduzetništvo zamenjuje fabrike i preduzetništvo je duša, gas. Naravno, postojali su bonus-sistemi u fabrikama, ali posao teži da uvede dublje nivoe modulacije u sve plate, dovodeći ih u stanje stalne metastabilnosti punktuirane smešnim izazovima, takmičenjima i seminarima. Ako su najgluplji televizijski kvizovi tako uspešni, to je zato što su oni savršeni odraz načina na koji se posao vodi. Fabrike su oblikovale individue u skup ljudi radi zajedničke pogodnosti upravljanja koja bi mogla da nadgleda svaki deo u ovoj masi i sindikate koji bi mogli da mobilišu masovni otpor; ali preduzetništvo stalno uvodi neumoljivo rivalstvo koje se predstavlja kao zdravo takmičenje, izvanredna motivacija koja postavlja individue jedne protiv drugih i postavlja sebe u njih, deleći svakog unutar njega samog. Čak je i državno obrazovanje razmišljalo o principu ,,plaćanja za rezultate": u stvari, baš kao što preduzetništvo zamenjuje fabrike, škola se zamenjuje
kontinuiranim obrazovanjem, a ispiti kontinuiranom procenom. To je najsigurniji način preobraćanja obrazovanja u preduzetništvo."
http://pescanik.net/drustva-kontrole/ (http://pescanik.net/drustva-kontrole/)
Inače, poslaću drugaru koji radi disertaciju o neoliberalizmu ovo, a komunjara je, taman da ga zaebavam :D
U međuvremenu:
US government shuts down; Dems, GOP blame each other (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/divided-congress-appears-racing-towards-shutdown-060853645--finance.html)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 20-01-2018, 08:36:39
U međuvremenu:
US government shuts down; Dems, GOP blame each other (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/divided-congress-appears-racing-towards-shutdown-060853645--finance.html)
Bankrot u najavi. Ako, ako. Mnogo poreskih para ide na gluposti tipa subvencija za inkuzivnost na koledžima, pa onda na vojne rashode, pa pomoć kurti and murti. Balonče jednom mora da pukne. Samo što će pucanje ovog balončeta za sobom da povuče planetu u ambis.
Nema ovo veze s tim, ovo je nadmudrivanje između partija. Bilo isto i za vreme Obame, pre jedno pet godina.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 20-01-2018, 17:43:18
Nema ovo veze s tim, ovo je nadmudrivanje između partija. Bilo isto i za vreme Obame, pre jedno pet godina.
Možda. Ali lako je nadmudrivati se sa tuđim novcem
Kaćemo mi da bankrotiramo ko Ameri...
Quote from: Pizzobatto on 20-01-2018, 18:18:35
Kaćemo mi da bankrotiramo ko Ameri...
Nikad....mi smo već bankrot
kad odvedeš dete kod lekara zbog glavobolje, a oni odrade "odgovarajuće" testove. :cry: xrofl
(general health panel je osnovna krvna slika, ostalo su antitela, što za određenu alergiju, što na boreliju)
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi65.tinypic.com%2Fjjbcc5.jpg&hash=b899d273deb858a7ea44cb678fc1ac70a1cf20bc)
skandalozne cene i skandalozno loše zdravstvo za većinu naroda. pod manjinom podrazumevam izuzetno bogate koji eventualno mogu da nađu proper tretman, al za ogromne pare.
usa je lepa kad odeš na 2-3 nedelje, nisi bolestan i imaš para da proputuješ. sve ostale varijante, a da nisi elon musk, su heavy za podnošenje. bar iz moje vizure.
Pa, da, i onda se dešava ovako nešto: žena umre od gripa jer joj je preskupo da plati tamiflu:
http://www.newsweek.com/texas-woman-dies-flu-because-she-couldnt-afford-tamiflu-medication-802968
well, njoj bi bolje bilo da se vakcinisala protiv gripa. tamiflu joj ne bi pomogao, on radi u prvih 6 sati nakon infekcije, a niko od nas i nije svestan da je inficiran u tih prvih 6 sati jer nemaš objektivnih simptoma.
Hm? Samo u prvih šest sati? To nam nisu rekli kad su nam ga delili tamo negde 2007. godine, u jeku panike oko ptičjeg gripa. Svinje!
farma kaže da može da se uzme u prvih 48h, nauka je tu malo redukovanija, studije kažu da 100% radi u prvih 6h od infekcije (ne od pojave simptoma).
u suštini, jedino bih uzela tamiflu onda kad bi mi izolacijom virusa bilo potvrđeno da mi je član porodice ili kolega s posla inficiran, a ja nisam vakcinisana.
no, pošto sam svake godine vakcinisana protiv gripa, računam da ću poštedeti mozak razmišljanja dal uzet or not. :lol:
U svakom slučaju, Amerika ima problem s gripom:
The Flu is Killing Up to 4,000 Americans a Week (http://fortune.com/2018/02/10/american-flu-deaths/?utm_campaign=time&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=time_socialflow_twitter)
Imaju problem i sa upucavanjem, pa se ne vakcinišu protiv ličnog naoružavanja.
To je zato što već više od pola decenije imaju efikasan lek protiv upucavanja: decu utreniranu da se masovno bace na ubicu pre nego što stigne da načini mnogo štete. (https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2012/12/18/newsweeks-megan-mcardle-calls-for-children-to-b/191889)
Ni pismeni idioti nisu za potcenjivanje. Posebno oni kojima je internet povećao inteligenciju.
Nije propast, al jeste Amerika:
Kako bi neki američki predsednici (možda) izgledali da su suprotnog pola:
(https://i.imgur.com/m04uom4.jpg)
Glupost.
Regan je genijalan!
samo obama. :lol:
Buš mlađi najbolja riba :lol:
Nažalost, ovo u SAD postaje redovna pojava:
At least 17 dead in 'horrific' Florida school shooting, suspect had 'countless magazines' (http://abcnews.go.com/US/17-dead-horrific-florida-school-shooting-suspect-custody/story?id=53087462)
Da sam na mestu američkog predsednika doneo bih, po hitnom postupku, zakon o zabrani pominjanja imena masovnog ubice. Neka ubuduće znaju da će im anonimnost biti jedino dostignuće.
That moment came in 1996 when the San Jose Mercury News ran
Gary Webb's expose on the CIA's connection to drug dealing in U.S.
inner cities. The balance of the media ignored the story, until pressure from the African-American community forced a response. The
main gatekeepers - the New York Times, Washington Post, and Los Angeles Times - all published attacks on the Mercury News story. After all,
if a story like this was true, it called into question the entire "free
press" that had been asleep at the switch for decades while all of this
was going on. Finally, the Mercury News published a retraction for the story and Webb was demoted and ultimately forced to leave the paper. What received little attention, however, was that extensive subsequent research effectively supported the thrust of Webb's allegations, and, indeed, suggested they were only the tip of the iceberg.252
Moreover, due to pressure from the congressional Black Caucus, the
CIA agreed to do an internal investigation of Webb's charges. The
in-house report did not disprove and, indeed, effectively supported
Webb's claims, acknowledging that the CIA had relations with drug
dealers throughout the 1980s. Yet, aside from brief mention, the
matter was ignored in toto in the commercial news media.
U ovoj Americi nema macove korupcije.
Ima, kako nema. Deo CIA je postao Bušova kompanija za distribuciju droge. Ali Buš bar nije na čelu države, pa postoje uslovi da se ta korupcija ukloni.
Eh, Bušova kompanija, dobar zonfa.
Šobi reko neoliberal Beker, samo bogata klasa može kolektivno da djeluje, jer ih ima malo pa mogu da se dogovore.
Toys 'R' Us plans to close all U.S. stores; 33,000 jobs at risk: source (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-toys-r-us-bankruptcy/toys-r-us-plans-to-close-all-u-s-stores-33000-jobs-at-risk-source-idUSKCN1GQ36S)
(https://scontent.fbeg5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29260935_2037440516534121_8045848199367229440_n.jpg?oh=09b6164d5553e3ea385fff47bb8e584e&oe=5B40C5BD)
Bizarno. Betsi DeVoš će ih stvarno unakaziti još gore (nego što su do sad bili unakaženi).
Ja bio u muzeju gde je bista "Trail of tears" izložena u Tahlequah, Oklahoma. Deo je mog romana UNAZAD. Ko nije čitao ne zna o čemu se radi. Bata još jednom podseća da ništa ne zna.
Kako to Bata podseća da ništa ne zna? Ignorišimo za trenutak tvoje romane i fokusirajmo se na Američku zvaničnu istoriju. Bata na temi "Amerika na ivici propasti" postavlja komentar kako se prekraja istorija Amerike. Da li ti kažeš da su indijanci svojevoljno otišli u rezervate, ili su tamo preseljeni prisilno i uz dosta laganja? Bata kaže ovo drugo.
Bata ne kaže ništa. Postuje twiter. Da li znaš da je Indijanac prodao Indijance kad je pokrenut Trail of tears? Gde si ti video da Bata kaže bilošta? Stvarno me nervira debilizam u tumačenju. Razumem i da ti ja više drmam ganglije, ali pametnim ljudima i treba drmati ganglije. Budalama nema pomoći. Ako su Indijanci bili srećni preseljenjem, zašto onda suze? Gledao sam tu suzu na licu Indijanke koja prti dete na tom putu i meni je bilo jasno. Šta, pobogu tebi nije jasno?
Nije mi jasno šta je svojim postom Bata tebi zgrešio, što ja pogrešno uradio? Što ga diraš?
Meni nije jasno šta ti braniš. Tebe manje pogađa ono šta on drlja?
ma mora da jesam nešto!
U ovom konkretnom slučaju da, manje me pogađa njegov post nego tvoj. Ignorišimo za trenutak sve ostale postove i tvoje i njegove. Bata postavi sliku u kojoj neka žena, pretpostavimo nastavnica istorije, komentariše kako američko školstvo ide dođavola sa svojom istorijskom revizijom. Ja cenim da i ti isto smatraš da je u pitanju istorijska revizija. Dakle ti i Bata se slažete, imamo istorijsku reviziju na delu. Pa šta je onda tvoj problem?
U Americi postoji oko 13 000 školskih distrikta, koji imaju priličnu autonomiju. To je ne računajući privatne škole.
To što se negde odštampao udžbenik koji sadrži onu stranicu, ne znači ništa.
da, al ono kako to prođe na CATS testovima, dobiju li diplomu ovi likovi
Quote from: mac on 15-03-2018, 13:30:21
Dakle ti i Bata se slažete, imamo istorijsku reviziju na delu. Pa šta je onda tvoj problem?
Pitaj Batu šta je njegov problem. Ja bio tamo, razgovarao sa ljudima koji vode muzej, složili smo se oko ključnih mesta. Tu se postavlja pitanje i šta je tvoj problem. Ukupno, ja nemam problem. Šta ti misliš o "Trail of tears"? Valjda postoji nešto i u nezavisnom mišljenju?
Ne pričamo o meni nego o tome što napadaš čoveka bez potrebe i bez razloga. Zašto? Koji je razlog? Čemu?
"Bata još jednom podseća da ništa ne zna". Koji je razlog za ovu rečenicu?
Razlog je što ne zna šta piše. Ako je tebi potaman, nazdravlje. Meni svejedno.
https://twitter.com/carljackmiller/status/926458167277555712
Chinese Companies Are Buying Up Cash-Strapped U.S. Colleges (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-20/cash-strapped-u-s-colleges-become-targets-for-chinese-companies)
Ono što je kod nas najnormalnija stvar, u Juti se legalizuje posebnim zakonom:
Controversial 'free-range parenting' is now legal in Utah — here's what that means (https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/controversial-free-range-parenting-now-legal-utah-heres-means-203114763.html)
https://rs-lat.sputniknews.com/autori/201804051115167841-momir-bulatovic-1-odsto-amerikanaca/
Postaješ Meho Krljić. Ili imaš ili nemaš stav.
stav u vezi čega?
Što pitaš?
ono jest da sam prvo trebo da pitam što se linkovani tekst ne čita, al preskočih
Quote from: Pizzobatto on 06-04-2018, 13:43:47
https://rs-lat.sputniknews.com/autori/201804051115167841-momir-bulatovic-1-odsto-amerikanaca/ (https://rs-lat.sputniknews.com/autori/201804051115167841-momir-bulatovic-1-odsto-amerikanaca/)
nek je bolje kod nas i u ostatku svijeta
Znao sam!
Поглавица са српским геном
Ричард Милановић је један од најпознатијих Американаца српског порекла. Успешан бизнисмен, родитељ, први човек племена Агуа Калијенте своју особеност и енергију тумачио је идеалном комбинацијом српске и индијанске крви.
Отворио је ланац хотела и казина, трговине и банку. 2007. магазин Бизнис прогласио га је најуспешнијим пословним човеком у националној коцкарској индустрији.
http://www.eserbia.org/people/society-and-politics/330-richard-milanovich
sad kacmo razotkrili da su Srbi neoliberalizovali Indijance, idemo dalje o propasti Murike
http://www.princip.info/2018/04/09/finale-americkog-cirkusa-u-siriji/
Quote from: Pizzobatto on 10-04-2018, 13:09:31
sad kacmo razotkrili da su Srbi neoliberalizovali Indijance...
Da si čitao UNAZAD znao bi da sam vezu legalizovao u Tahlequah, Oklahoma.
Америка је била Западна Индија, а Колумбо је добро знао куда плови.
ОТКРИВЕНИ ДРЕВНИ СЛОВЕНСКИ ХРАМОВИ У АМЕРИЦИ
У Америци су откривени древни храмови за које научници сматрају да су намерно уништавани почетком двадесетог века.
Један од храмова је откривен на плажи Брајтон (Њујорк), а други у Калифорнији на сат времена вожње од познате ''Силиконске долине''.
Текстови који су уклесани у стене су на "ћирилици" и по свему судећи представљају словенска божанства. На артефактима су пронађени читљиви натписи: МИР ЯРА, РУСЬ ЯРА, РОД, ХРАМ ЯРА, МАГ ЯРА итд.
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https://srbski.weebly.com/srbi-svi-i-svuda/otkriveni-drevni-hramovi-u-americi
http://kultura-prozvetania.blogspot.rs/2014/12/blog-post_34.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8FVuBE0k8w&t=68s
(Да другосрбијанцима буде мало лакше - Руси не само да намештају америчке изборе, него и тајно, ноћу, клешу ли клешу по Америци. Бобан би рекао - бетонирају :lol: )
još mi reci da si trovo ove britanske agente!
Sintiju Nikson za guvernera!
https://youtu.be/_HohD8NVW3M
Najbolji vidoja ikad... 15 minuta ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLqHv0xgOlc
Ford's decision to kill most of its cars was inevitable (https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/27/ford-s-decision-to-kill-most-its-cars-was-inevitable/)
U.S. Cities Lose Tree Cover Just When They Need It Most (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-cities-lose-tree-cover-just-when-they-need-it-most/)
U SAD nezaposlenost pala na 3,9%. Ipak, zabeležio sam poruku:
Ne treba nama više posla, svi imamo 2 do 3. Trebaju nam prihodi dovoljni za život.
Život tamo protiče u trci između radnih mesta.
Neoliberalizam!
Upravo, flipin brgrs, niđe veze s kršteno plaćenim poslom al političari mogu da se hvale da su smanjili nezaposlenost.
Nije Amerika, al baš sam čuo da su Sanderlend i Birmingem, industrijski gradovi, tako propali da samo likovima u Londonu nije jasno okle Brexit.
Trampe, živote!
Kažem kćerki da se u Srbiji ubiše gajeći koze. Ona se osvrne levo-desno i kaže: "Nemoj samo da te čuje Cale." Onda je posavetujem da u dvorištu gaje mangulice, imaju oko 80 stoletnih hrastova u njemu. Mal' mi nije prekinula vezu.
Ono kad distribucije Boltzmann-Gibbs i Pareto ne opisuju istu populaciju. Prva je za one koji rintaju, a druga za one koji drpaju.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/04/06/how-12-experts-would-end-inequality-if-they-ran-america/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.922b567d1a74
ovi Ameri su totalno u fazonu raja je gladna, dajte joj kolača...
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/17/news/economy/us-middle-class-basics-study/index.html
opet horor
Multiple fatalities have been reported and a suspect is in custody after a shooting at a Texas high school
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/santa-fe-school-shooting-latest-today-texas-active-victims-police-gun-a8357846.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/santa-fe-school-shooting-latest-today-texas-active-victims-police-gun-a8357846.html)
Movie producer Weinstein surrenders on sex assault charges (https://www.yahoo.com/news/movie-producer-weinstein-surrenders-sex-assault-charges-112826210.html)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 25-05-2018, 15:48:25
Movie producer Weinstein surrenders on sex assault charges (https://www.yahoo.com/news/movie-producer-weinstein-surrenders-sex-assault-charges-112826210.html)
jutros čitam da su i Morgana Frimena neke optužile za seksualno uznemiravanje, navodno zato što je komentarisao njihov izgled i oblačenje, i stavljao im ruku na donji deo leđa!!!!!!!1389!!!!
How Baby Boomers Broke America (http://time.com/5280446/baby-boomer-generation-america-steve-brill/)
Quote from: tomat on 25-05-2018, 16:21:34
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 25-05-2018, 15:48:25
Movie producer Weinstein surrenders on sex assault charges (https://www.yahoo.com/news/movie-producer-weinstein-surrenders-sex-assault-charges-112826210.html)
jutros čitam da su i Morgana Frimena neke optužile za seksualno uznemiravanje, navodno zato što je komentarisao njihov izgled i oblačenje, i stavljao im ruku na donji deo leđa!!!!!!!1389!!!!
Zgušnjavanje plota:
Morgan Freeman demands retraction, apology from CNN over sexual harassment report (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/morgan-freeman-demands-retraction-apology-cnn-sexual-harassment-report-152324100.html)
Jebote, koliki idiot neko treba da bude.... Pa bar da je zakočio pištolj...
Dancing FBI Agent Accidentally Shoots Denver Bar Patron While Attempting to Flip: Police (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/dancing-fbi-agent-accidentally-shoots-202004065.html)
а колики тек треба да будеш идиот за ово?! скалопе чувајте се кад будете летели по тим америкама...ово је за изневеровали или да...
Is the FAA sacrificing your safety for diversity? (http://youtu.be/qh9SxqsQdpo)
Ako je i Fox News formulisao naslov tako da je pitanje...
Ponekad je pitanje upućeno negde drugde. Dejan je upoznat sa mojom pričom o penzionerkama u lokalnim letovima u UNAZAD.
Quote from: Father Jape on 05-06-2018, 15:10:15
Ako je i Fox News formulisao naslov tako da je pitanje...
паметно је сумњати...немам ништа против...ал' ти, јасно је, ниси ни погледао вест пре него што си искуцао, но није ни важно, највеће поштовање које имам према постојању је због његове ироничности.
Suicide rates are up 30 percent since 1999, CDC says (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/suicide-rates-are-30-percent-1999-cdc-says-n880926)
Oh, Amerikanci...
U državi Floridi godinu dana nisu radili provere osoba kojima su izdavane dozvole za (skriveno) nošenje oružja, a koje se u toj državi rade po sili zakona, jer zaposlena nije mogla da se uloguje u bazu...
Adam Putnam's office stopped reviewing concealed weapons background checks for a year because it couldn't log in (http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/06/08/adam-putnams-office-stopped-concealed-weapons-background-checks-for-a-year-because-it-couldnt-log-in/)
Pošto su bratski podelili sa Evropom plodove svoje hipotekarne krize iz 2007. Ameri bi sad da podele i profit bazne industrijske proizvodnje Evrope. Šta drugo ako je Atlantik prepreka za izvoz nafte i gasa, koje ne znaju da izvezu od Oklahome do Arkanzasa.
Nego, zaboravismo pre neki dan da linkujemo ovaj komični preokret:
Ex–FBI Director James Comey Also Used His Personal Email To Conduct Official Business (https://www.buzzfeed.com/talalansari/james-comey-personal-email-use?utm_term=.dnVzdpYkG#.hggDOdK3Z)
Lora Buš, supruga, jelte, bivšeg predsednika:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/laura-bush-separating-children-from-their-parents-at-the-border-breaks-my-heart/2018/06/17/f2df517a-7287-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4791250f0402
Ovo nisam ja poručio, nego R. Paul, iako izgleda kao da jesam.
"Mislim da u slučaju da Donald Trump samostalno odluči organizirati s Rusijom različite odnose od današnjih, vrati američke trupe u zemlju i naredi smirivanje situacije, on jednostavno neće biti toleriran"
"Vršimo pritisak na druge, a ako učine ono što im kažemo, šaljemo im više novca pošto sami možemo štampati globalnu valutu. A ako nas ne poslušaju, moramo se uključiti u 'malu agresiju' i ispustiti bombe"
Quote from: scallop on 24-06-2018, 10:18:12
Ovo nisam ja poručio, nego R. Paul, iako izgleda kao da jesam.
"Mislim da u slučaju da Donald Trump samostalno odluči organizirati s Rusijom različite odnose od današnjih, vrati američke trupe u zemlju i naredi smirivanje situacije, on jednostavno neće biti toleriran"
"Vršimo pritisak na druge, a ako učine ono što im kažemo, šaljemo im više novca pošto sami možemo štampati globalnu valutu. A ako nas ne poslušaju, moramo se uključiti u 'malu agresiju' i ispustiti bombe"
Što mi ovo prvo zvuči poznato. Promenjeni odnosi sa Rusijom, manje zategnutosti, odbijanje podrške za vazdušne udare protiv bradonje, pristajanje na uklanjanje raketli iz Indžirlika, smanjenje vojnog budžeta i najavljeno povlačenje trupa sa dalekog Istoka.
https://twitter.com/LincolnsBible/status/1021746621313212417
neki antitramp bulažnjero
a ne spominje Buš cia droga cia
Шта ови студирају?
Наркоманисање?
Ukupno 76 osoba predoziralo se zloporabom droga u samo 24 sata na Sveučilištu Yale, u gradu New Haven od čega se dvoje nalazi u kritičnom stanju.
Predoziranja su nastala konzumacijom sintetičkih kanabinoida, a započela su jutarnjim satima prošlog utorka u parku New Gaven Green koji se nalazi pored Sveučilišta Yale, prenosi Daily Express.
U srijedu se u roku od tri do četiri sata onesvijestilo 18 osoba u centru grada. Ukupno 50 prijavljenih predoziranja vezano je na konzumaciju u dotičnom parku, a čak 76 ih je zabilježeno u cijelom gradu.
Policija je uhitila neimenovanog 37-godišnjaka, za kojeg tvrdi da je prodavao sporne supstance.
Razlog ovako velikog broja predoziranja leži u činjenici da je diler vjerojatno dijelio besplatne primjerke inače vrlo snažnog sintetičkog opijata koji za posljedicu može imati i ozbiljne fizičke manifestacije poput povećanja krvnog tlaka ili smanjenja dotoka kisika do srca te čak i srčanog udara.
Službene brojke za SAD navode da je prošle godine konzumacijom droge smrtno stradalo 70.689 ovisnika.
http://tribun.hr/cak-76-predoziranja-u-samo-24-sata-na-sveucilistu-yale-u-sad-u/
Quote from: Аксентије Новаковић on 19-08-2018, 19:12:16
Шта ови студирају?
Наркоманисање?
http://tribun.hr/cak-76-predoziranja-u-samo-24-sata-na-sveucilistu-yale-u-sad-u/
To, i dženderisanje, muslimanisanje, čamuganje, tovljenje, pederisanje, lezbisanje, da budu agitatori. Još i pare daju za to. Naravno ne svi, samo oni koji nisu obuvaćeni "affirmative action". Procenat finih studentkinja koje se bore za jednaka "prava" po US univerzitetima, a koje u slobodno vreme, tj kada ne podržavaju Lindu Bubašvabu i onog iz Nation of Islam, vrište i histerišu, se bavi web camingom, tj samozadovoljava se pred kamerama za lovu, valjda im treba za školarinu, šta će kada imaju "wage gap".
Ова иде стопама злог оца и још горе мајке...
Chelsea Clinton: ,,Pobačaji su američkoj ekonomiji priskrbili bilijune dolara"
Na nedavnoj konvenciji za pravo na pobačaj, Chelsea Clinton, kći bivšeg američkog predsjednika Billa Clintona i njegove supruge Hillary, u svom je javnom izlaganju poručila da je legalizacija pobačaja obogatila američku ekonomiju.
Clinton je navela da su pobačaji omogućili da američke žene doprinesu američkoj ekonomiji s 3,5 bilijuna dolara u razdoblju između 1970. i 2009. godine.
,,Naravno da bih radije da nas ljudi podržavaju jer brinu za našu ravnopravnost i poštovanje i mogućnost donošenja vlastitih odluka. No čak ako ni to nije dovoljno, nadam se da će neki od ovih argumenata biti dovoljno uvjerljivi."
Clinton tvrdi da su pobačaji koji su vršeni svih ovih desetljeća, omogućili ženama da umjesto da budu majke, na ovaj način od njih stvorile porezne obveznike i zaposlenike koji su doprinosili američkoj ekonomiji.
No, ova priča ima dvije strane.
Iako je veća uključenost žena u gospodarstvo imala kratkoročan doprinos u ekonomskom smislu, dugoročno je industrija pobačaja bila pogubna za američku ekonomiju. Još 2000. godine američki Ethics and Public Policy Center napisao je u svom izvješću:
,,Smanjivanjem veličine populacije, pobačaji su posljedično smanjili veličinu ekonomije. Pogodovavši naglom padu broja brakova, legalizacija pobačaja snizila je standard života prosječnog američkog domaćinstva. Isto tako, pobačaji su direktno odgovorni za nadolazeće probleme stabilnosti mirovinskog sustava."
Logično je zaključiti da bi bez industrije pobačaja američka populacija bila znatno veća, čime bi i gospodarstvo bilo veće, kao i standard života.
Ekonomski stručnjaci slažu se da smanjenje populacije neminovno vodi prema stagnaciji gospodarstva u odgovarajućoj mjeri.
Primjerice, ako populacija padne za pet posto, za očekivati je da će i ekonomija pasti za sličan postotak.
Drugim riječima, izjava mlade Clintonice o tome da su pobačaji doprinijeli američkom gospodarstvu u bilijunima dolara je netočna.
Iako žene koje imaju pobačaje, odnosno ne postaju majke, doprinose ekonomiji, činjenica ostaje da pobačaji dugoročno oslabljuju ekonomiju kroz smanjenje populacije i buduće radne snage koja pokreće gospodarstvo.
https://tribun.hr/chelsea-clinton-pobacaji-su-americkoj-ekonomiji-priskrbili-bilijune-dolara/
Dobro a šta si mislio da će "progresivisti" da izrode pametno dete? Ili da to dete neće tetke od 300 kila da isprogramiraju kroz medije i obrazovanje? Nemojmo biti naivni. Sve je to za pare i za moć. Kada kao reakcija budu pobrisana i realna prava ostvarena kroz muku i krv, pitaće se zašto i kako. E pa, mora se znati gde i kada da se stane, gde nam je limit. Jer nije progres sve što se progresom zove.
И сад о Челзи мислим исто што сам мислио и током агресије 1999.
Добро се зна парола која јој је тад упућена.
Него, где је проблем.
Проблем је што су од убиства нерођене деце направили бизнис, а лицемерно тврде да је то зарад планирања породице и зарад здравља.
"Све је то за ваше добро."
Ali populacija se ne smanjuje, nego uvozi. Ubistvima nerođene dece zapravo država dodatno uštedi, jer imigrantima ne plaća školovanje.
Quote from: mac on 28-08-2018, 10:14:09
Ali populacija se ne smanjuje, nego uvozi. Ubistvima nerođene dece zapravo država dodatno uštedi, xuss
Да не буде забуне: не плаћа ни својој деци.
Quote from: mac on 28-08-2018, 10:14:09
Ali populacija se ne smanjuje, nego uvozi. Ubistvima nerođene dece zapravo država dodatno uštedi, jer imigrantima ne plaća školovanje.
Pa ne trebaju njima realno obrazovani, trebaju im glasači i glumljenje vrline pred masom ispunjenom "humanizmom" i materinskim instiktom. Kome SAD plaćaju školovanje? Nikome, sami građani plaćaju porezima javno, a ličnim sredstvima ili kreditima privatno školovanje. To što umesto realnog obrazvanja skupo plačaju gender studies, to samo pokazuje da su budale. Ali sve dok diploma koledža bude pasoš za evenutalno bolje plaćeni posao i odvajanje od proleterijata, dotle će biti ovaca za šišanje, koje će em biti u dužničkom ropstvu em će biti isprogramirane Derideizmom i Fukoizmom (čitaj intersekiconalnim feminizmom)
Heh.... Grad u Americi izabere crnog gradonačelnika i crni gradski odbor, pa se grupa bogatijih belih građana doseti da napravi glasanje o tome da se njihov kraj odcepi od tog grada. Tvist: u ovom gradu je sniman Black Panther (bar deo):
The Strangest Form of White Flight (https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/11/eagles-landing-cityhood-vote-atlanta-stockbridge/571990/)
čizkejk fektori u zombilendu, eto ti ga sad
zivim u opcini gdje nam je nacelnik s Kuranom pred medije izasao u svom uredu
kampanja za izbore mu je bila odlazak na hadz
jer se poklopio odlazak na hadz s predizbornim govorancijama
nije se uopce sučeljavao s protukandidatima jer su i gori od njega...
uopce ga ne dozivljavam kao muslimana...ili seljacinu
cak je bio zarobljen od srba u ratu ako se ne varam
lik je i doktorat napravio
uglavnom opcina ima 60000 st
oko 3000 hrvata 3000 srbi i nekoliko tisuca ostalih...hrvati rastrkani po naseljima
ne moze mu nista ni bosnjacka ljevica ni desnica
u prvom krugu bez kampanje 52%
mi nemamo drugi krug
nisam glasovqo zq njega ali neko elementarno postovanje imam
lik je lice i naličje politicara u BIH
kad bih mogao volio bih se izdvojiti u posebnu opcinu...
nego, ako zvezda nije proždrala sve ostale manje bitne vesti, zanima me kakvo je mišljenje žitelja sagite po pitanju izbora u americi? je l' mislite da im se u budućnosti smeši još jedan trampov mandat ili su se demokrate mobilisale pa će na sledećim predsedničkim izborima da menjaju vlas'? u pitanju je opklada, sve su mi prognoze značajne :D
https://www.nedeljnik.rs/nedeljnik/portalnews/tramp-je-dobio-opoziciju-demokrate-preuzimaju-predstavnicki-dom-republikanci-zadrzali-vecinu-u-senatu?fbclid=IwAR3ZIISyCRcduk0qXrgn6jQsKV4vn0NhGZkAA1OHkcXI-MjCqxKBREDJY7E
Trump je igrao moneyball i tako iznenadio protivnika, ali sad i protivnik zna za moneyball. Takođe narod je sad video efekat Trampa, i većini nije milo. Takođe savezne agencije (FBI i ostale) će biti spremnije na spoljne uticaje. Takođe, neće biti Komija, Vikiliksa, a ako bude sreće neće biti ni same Klintonke, pa demokratski glasači koji su zaokružili sve na listiću osim Klintonke i Trampa će sledeći put verovatno zaokružiti demokratskog kandidata. Ako kandidat bude Kirsten Gilibrand to će biti sasvim fino, ona je bolji prvi ženski predsednik od Hilari. Još bolji bi bila Elizabet Voren, ali stara je već, ne bi bilo u redu.
Problem je što republikanci još drže senat. To znači da demokrate neće ništa korisno moći da urade, nikakav koristan zakon, jer ne bi prošao u senatu. Republikanska strategija koju čvrsto sprovodi Mič Mekonel je da nema saradnje s teror.. hm, s demokratama. Koliko god da je zakon valjan republikanci će ga minirati samo zato što su demokrate u većini u kongresu. To može da navede birače da pomisle da su džaba glasali za demokrate. Dosta zavisi od zamora materijala u glasačkom telu. Ali Tramp će ostati Tramp, pa su šanse da narod pomisli "želimo još 4 godine ovoga" jako male. Demokrate će se verovatno okrenuti istragama protiv Trampa i pokušati da izdejstvuju impičment pred izbore, ali tako da senat odbije impičment, i onda demokrate kažu narodu "vide li vi šta vam ovaj senat radi, preporučujemo da ih sve posmenite".
Problem je i što se ne zna koliku moć Hilari ima u demokratskoj stranci, i koliku želju za moć ima za predsedničkom foteljom. Ako se ona progura na mesto demokratskog kandidata, onda ni ja ne znam šta će biti. Ono koji nisu glasali za Hilari ranije neće glasati ni ponovo, koliko god ona igrala moneyball i imala zaštitu saveznih agencija.
dakle, neka bude borba neprestana!
a je l' bi mogao malo da objasniš taj pojam moneyball? prvi put ga čujem
Ima knjiga na tu temu (a potom i film s Bredom Pitom). Siromašni bejzbol klub je kupio jeftine igrače koji statistički pouzdano rade ono što rade, i tako došao do glavnog finala, što niko nije očekivao. Moneyball može da znači igranje igre sitnih pobeda, ali koje kumulativno mogu da dovedu do velikog pomaka, ali nije samo to. Kao što je Jelena Janković došla do prve pozicije na WTA listi, a da nije osvojila nijedan grend slem.
mislim da znam onda ljude koji moneyballom zarađuju pare na onlajn pokeru :D
macovi neoliberalizmi ponovo
realno, republikanski precednici rijetko gube drugi mandat, npr Buš stariji ga je izgubio ali to je bio treći republikanski mandat u nizu
generalno, ako se situacija drastično ne mijenja svaki precednik ima dva mandata
mijenja se npr kad se neoliberališe Amerika s Karterom i kad pada Berlinski zid s Bušom seniorom
Tramp jeste taj tip, i kod njega se mijenja globalna situacija, samo na koju stranu, to je pitanje...
Demokrate inače smatraju da ako izgube 2020. to je smak svijeta, jer se biraju sudije Vrhovnog suda koje bi zatvorile sve mambo-džambo liberalizme koje ovi prizivaju, od definicije džendera pa nadalje, i ne bi se ništa moglo promijeniti do 2050. godine
tako da oni će da grizu i ako kandiduju Hilari onda su totalne budale. Ionako su prsli totalno jer ih keca to oko Vrhovnog suda
s druge strane, Benon hara po Evropi i gura desnicu i generalno to je tendencija u narednim godinama, što znači ako bude neki kandidat još kvaziliberalniji od Hilari Tramp osvaja lagano
pa će prije biti neki kauboj kao Klinton onomad. To bi već bio teži slučaj.
Vidim Kruz izdominirao, a ljudi ne kontaju da je on ekstremniji od Trampa, što bi se reklo za njega žene nisu ljudi a lik nosi Teksas
al ovo sve pričam kad bi se onako pošteno pokoškali, čega naravno neće biti jer će Trampa jebat transnacionalni kapital
sve u svemu, ja bih glaso za Trampa, poslije njega dolaze fašisti, nevezano za stranku
Nije Kruz izdominirao sa 50.9:48.3 nego jedva prošao. U Teksasu, sa aktuelnim senatorom za dominaciju je potrebna veća razlika od 1.6%. Ovo se zove "tight battle" i "narrow victory", a ne dominacija. To je nesumnjivo uspeh za Trampa, ali Kruz treba da slavi Boga što je ovo sad iza njega.
za to u teksasu sam se i ja iznenadio, da jedan demokrata sa kučećim pogledom i zdravim zubima osvoji toliko glasova, samo dva posto manje nego zdravoverni, mesožderski republikanac (ja imam predrasudu da je taj teksas fenomenalno mesto, kao republika srpska krajina u najboljim godinama). kapiram da će o rurk možda biti u budućnosti neki glavonja ala kenedi, ima tu harizmu i dobar pedigre.
inače, jasno, sve zavisi od svega po ovome što kažete, što i i ima smisla. batin favorit je tramp, a i moj je, bogami, jer sam se na njega kladio. ne iz neke ideologije, samo bi me neverovatno zabavilo kada bi skrhao idelističku nadu u očima sve one kalifornijeske omladine koju sam imao prilike da upoznam. a i pogotovo što imam utisak da bi ameri u budućnosti mogli da izaberu i crnog đavola, i da kažu da su sve rešili i da je sada spoljnopolitička situacija mnogo bolja nego pod trampom
pa naravno da je uspjeh za Trampa kad Kruza mrze i normalni republikanci u Teksasu, a jopet je pobijedio
Nači Tramp može samo da dobije više od Kruza, jer će pored njega izgledati umjereno
Ja sam u načelu za Trampa jer tešo će Demokrate da nađu nešto, čim nemaju ni sada. Obamu su imali maltene 5-6 godina ranije, sad nemaju ništa, nikoga na vidiku, šta god sjurne u naredne dvije godine mislim da je prekratak period
Mada, zavisi i od drugih okolnosti, naravno, može biti vrlo nestabilno a jopet ove 2 godine su sem skičanja po medijima, bile super u poređenju s Obaminim klanjima
Kad pogledamo ovaj video i pročitamo tekst, shvatimo koliko je Vučić elegantnije sredio svoju situaciju sa medijima. Ova pres konferencija u Beloj kući u kojoj Tramp neće da odgovori na pitanja CNNovog reportera, onda mu oduzmu mikrofon, Tramp ga nazove nepristojnom, groznom osobom, i onda mu se oduzme akreditacija da više ne može da dolazi na ovakve događaje - to je nekako sjajna ilustracija Trampovog odnosa sa medijima. "Mediji se trude da mu doakaju" je tačna dijagnoza, naravno, ali na kraju dana, ako ne voliš da te hebu po medijima, ne treba da ti se diže da budeš precednik.
CNN Reporter Jim Acosta's White House Press Pass Suspended After Argument With Trump (https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-revokes-cnn-reporter-010642951.html)
Naravno, da odmah predvidimo reakciju ("A šta je pa Obama radio!!!"), da, naravno, evo Variety kaže: daleko od toga da je on bio cvećka (https://variety.com/2018/politics/news/trump-press-war-obama-administration-reporters-1202782264/).
novinari imaju pravo pisati što žele i o čemu žele
također domaćin ima pravo primiti u svoju kuću koga želi i kada želi
slično je i s imigrantima
kažu da je 94% novinara glasalo za obamu
dole piše...
tako da je sva ova hajka na trumpa jasna...
ne napadaju ga novinari
nego novinari-demokrate
novinari zaposleni u korporacijama zasnovanim na transnacionalnom kapitalu, jelte
tu postoje primjeri kad neka televizija (npr NBC ili CBS) nađe podatke o tome da Dizni eksploatiše svoje radnike, i onda ih ne objavi jer Dizni je vlasnik druge nacionalne televizije (ABC), pa ona može da objavi nešto o vlasnicima prve televizije
idi mi dođi mi
eto taj Variety što ukazuje na Obamu, vlasništvo Penske Media Corporation, dakle nacionalnog kapitala, i oni relativizuje čitavu anti-tramp histeriju, normalno
follow the money!
Trump has proved more accessible than Obama and has not moved on threats against the industry. He has yet to discover the many uses of the Espionage Act, but he still needs to make time for a news conference.
pa super, al macisti i dalje skiče
Držimo se prigodnih uvreda, koje ne porede osobu sa životinjom.
Inače, ja ne mislim da novinar ima pravo da piše šta želi. Prvo, mora da piše istinito. Drugo, vidi prvo. Treće, Bata je u pravu ako kaže da je sprega medija i kapitala problem. Zavisni mediji kapitalom istiskuju nezavisne, ali imam vere da će uvek postojati neki Mladi Turci i Inforatovi da skreću pažnju na ono što bogati mediji prikrivaju.
al infowars je psiho haha
doduše, ona pjesma je hit
inače, koja je to priča, postoje tri tv mreže u americi i pokrivaju sve, a na njih se nadovezuju još 2 kablovske news mreže, i to je kompletna informativa SAD
totalna transnacionalna dominacija
sad kad je Dizni kupio Fox to je to.
Dizni ima dva kanala kao Prva i 02 u Srbiji, jebeš ti to novinarstvo
Quote from: mac on 08-11-2018, 14:06:08
Inforatovi
WTF? Aleks Džounz??????
Jesi li siguran da nisi mislio na nekog drugog? Džounz je, a ovo ne govorim olako, smeće od čoveka koga je konspiratološka tematika odvela tako daleko da je doksovao porodice čiji su članovi ubijenu u Sendi Huk masakru, kako bi "dokazao" da su to sve glumci koji pred kamerama plaču za pare i da tu niko nije poginuo i da je to sve jedan False Flag Operation. Čovek je razvijena forma DJV-a, ne bi mu orah iz ruke uzeo.
Naravno, ali ljudi mu dojavljuju razne informacije i on ih liberalno uglavljuje u svoj narativ. Nije izbirljiv po tom pitanju.
kakvo liberalno korišćenje riječi liberalno :lol:
u svakom slučaju, a što ne krštena nacionalna televizija koja je ljevica?
jer taj Džons nije ljevica, čak i kad bi bio normalan
mac je od prevelikog gledanja US talkshow fejk-lefta poremetio
Ali kakav je to rol model za novinara kakvog bismo priželjkivali???
Pa, mnogo on laže, što se kosi sa prva dva pravila, i onda ne znaš šta je tu istina, čak i kad je izrekne. Evo kajem se što sam ga spomenuo. Hteo sam samo da pružim dijapazon izvora iz kojih čovek može da se napaja i bez državnih medija. Infowars nije dobar izbor za to. The Daily Wire?
ma ko se bre napaja bez državnih medija, ko će da se muči da ide na trista sajtova da dobije informaciju kako treba?
daj ti čisti neoliberalčine, lakše je
dekontaminiraj se od neoliberalizma!
Al dok mi ćaskamo oni ponovo broje mrtve. Dvanaestoro pobijenih u pucnjavi u Kaliforniji (https://www.yahoo.com/news/victims-thousand-oaks-shooting-184700011.html). Skoro da čovek pomisli da Amerika ima problem sa kontrolom ličnog naoružanja.
Kad prodje Čarlton Heston (kao što i dolazi posle svakog ovakvog hepeninga) lepo će objasniti ljudima da ne bi ni došlo do krvoprolića da je svaki posetilac u klubu nosio svoje lično naoružanje, pa makar samo pištolj i bombu, puške se ostavljaju na ulazu. Posle svakog ovakvog dešavanja njihov zvaničan stav nekako ispada da treba povećati procenat naoružanih amerikanaca da bi smanjili ovakva sranja...
odgovor na problem tržišta je - još tržišta!
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/noam-chomsky-calls-trump-and-republican-allies-criminally-insane/?fbclid=IwAR2o5wYaocEVWQqs4-bt8Aaq07L0MsACky3uqa3CR-uMDg0iWhUWS6SjH9M
Организација, према Инфлуенс Вочу (Influence Watch), је придружена Уједињеној латинској породици (La Familia Latina Unida) и део је савеза Cara Family Detention Pro Bono Project, која је са своје стране састављена од Католичке правне миграцијске мреже (Catholic Legal Immigration Network), Америчког миграцијског савета (American Immigration Council), Избегличког и миграцијског центра за образовне и правне службе (Refugee and Immigrant Centre for Education and Legal Services) и од Америчке миграцијске адвокатске асоцијације (American Immigration Lawyers Association). Реч је о групама које све подржавају илегалну имиграцију. Ове су организације финансиране од извесног броја прогресистичких фондација, попут Фонда за отворено друштво (Open Society Foundation) Џорџа Сороша, Макартурове фондације (MacArthur Foundation) Фордове фондације (Ford Foundation) и Карнегијеве корпорације (Carnegie Corporation).
http://www.nspm.rs/savremeni-svet/ko-zaista-stoji-iza-aktuelnog-talasa-migracija-prema-sad.html
Neki američki neoliberali hoće da menjaju način na koji se glasa.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2018/11/12/the-problem-with-our-democracy-isnt-gerrymandering-its-integers/
QuoteThe root of our problem is that each Congressional district elects just one person, in a winner-take-all election where you only need to win by one vote. This means that the losers end up with a Representative who simply doesn't represent them. This means that, in a close election, 49.9% of the voters can be effectively disenfranchised. Even in lopsided victories, where 70% of the voters support the winner, the remaining 30% are stuck with someone who doesn't represent them.
The solution: elect TWO representatives from each Congressional district, and award them each a fractional vote in Congress. Each of the top two vote-getters would have a Congressional vote that is proportional to the number of voters who supported them. Thus if a district elects a Democrat (D) with 55% of the vote, and the losing Republican (R) gets 45%, both of them go to Congress, and D gets 0.55 votes while R gets 0.45 votes.
This will double the size of the House, to 830 members. It will also completely fix partisan gerrymandering.
Ali onda kažeš sebi u bradu, ako će da ispravi nešto onda se nikad neće usvojiti.
Mada i dalje može da se računa sa celobrojnim vrednostima, naime brojem glasova koje si dobio. Ako si dobio 30000 glasova onda toliko i vrediš, nema potrebe za procentima.
Možda čak ne treba stati na dva predstavnika, nego svako ko pređe cenzus dobije svoj procenat. Verovatno bi trebalo urediti saziv tako da ne može baš svako uvek za govornicu, ali svojim glasovima podržavaš da govori neko ko bi rekao isto što i ti.
A onda se postavlja i pitanje, kad treba da tražiš nešto od svog predstavnika kako se zna ko je zaista od ta dva razlomka tvoj predstavnik? Na stranu to što jedan od dvojice apsolutno više nema nikakve potrebe da te sluša, ali taj je upravo onaj čije mišljenje želiš da promeniš.
čime se sve ljudi zanimaju umjesto da ukinu neoliberalizam. Jednostavnije je.
Da, ovo je sa sajta VOSTOK, ali tvrdnje je moguće proveriti. Nisam to radio.
Elem, ako ste mislili da je Drakula upokojen - grešite. Donedavno je živeo u Gruziji. Doduše, s američkim pasošem.
https://www.vostok.rs/index.php?option=btg_novosti&catnovosti=8&idnovost=115260&Ekskluzivno-istrazivanje:-Da-li-su-raskrinkane-%E2%80%9Emracne-tajne%E2%80%9C-americke-bio-laboratorije-u-Gruziji (https://www.vostok.rs/index.php?option=btg_novosti&catnovosti=8&idnovost=115260&Ekskluzivno-istrazivanje:-Da-li-su-raskrinkane-%E2%80%9Emracne-tajne%E2%80%9C-americke-bio-laboratorije-u-Gruziji)
Ексклузивно истраживање: Да ли су раскринкане ,,мрачне тајне" америчке био-лабораторије у Грузији?
У јавност су процуреле информације о тајној америчкој војној лабораторији у Грузији у којој су у експериментима убијене најмање 73 особе, као и о америчким пројектима употребе инсеката за ширење заразних болести у земљама које се противе политици Вашингтона...
a kako provjeriti tvrdnje kad su tvrdnje?
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/4/russia-claims-us-running-biological-weapons-lab-in/
elem, od Amera nađoh samo ovo, a ovo je neki trampovski list
Ima još. Piše se prilično, u stilu verujem ili ne verujem.
Ovo, i još dosta, dobiješ kad ukucaš ime onog gruzijskog ex-ministra. Možda u pretragu dodati reč istraga...
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/09/13/us-biological-warfare-program-in-spotlight-again.html (https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/09/13/us-biological-warfare-program-in-spotlight-again.html)
US Biological Warfare Program in the Spotlight Again
https://www.rt.com/news/438543-georgia-us-laboratory-bio-weapons/ (https://www.rt.com/news/438543-georgia-us-laboratory-bio-weapons/)
Deadly experiments: Georgian ex-minister claims US-funded facility may be bioweapons lab
https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-claims-us-running-secret-biological-weapons-lab-in-georgia/ (https://www.timesofisrael.com/russia-claims-us-running-secret-biological-weapons-lab-in-georgia/)
Russia claims US running secret biological weapons lab in Georgia
https://blogs.mediapart.fr/matberg-kate/blog/130918/american-diplomats-blood-traffic-pathogens-us-secret-military-program-georgia (https://blogs.mediapart.fr/matberg-kate/blog/130918/american-diplomats-blood-traffic-pathogens-us-secret-military-program-georgia)
American diplomats, blood traffic & pathogens – US Secret Military Program in Georgia
https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-georgia-lugar-lab-russia/29507458.html (https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-georgia-lugar-lab-russia/29507458.html)
Updated: Georgia's "Secret Lab" – Experiments on Humans or Normal Treatment of Hepatitis C?
https://thebulletin.org/2018/11/the-russian-disinformation-attack-that-poses-a-biological-danger/ (https://thebulletin.org/2018/11/the-russian-disinformation-attack-that-poses-a-biological-danger/)
The Russian disinformation attack that poses a biological danger
https://journal-neo.org/2018/10/09/us-funded-disinformation-oversight-of-bio-weapons-prevention-programmes-in-georgia/ (https://journal-neo.org/2018/10/09/us-funded-disinformation-oversight-of-bio-weapons-prevention-programmes-in-georgia/)
US-funded "Disinformation Oversight" of Bio Weapons Prevention Programmes in Georgia
pa da, ali to su sve proruski sajtovi ili ko zna šta što mi nije ni poznato
ne kažem da nije tačno, ali kako da znam da ovaj bulletin npr priča istinu
fejka na sve strane
u stvari, pa taj bulletin upravo priča da Rusi lažu
Pa jes, to kažu i Englezi
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-cyberattack-us-chemical-biological-weapons-borders-programmes-kremlin-a8568486.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-cyberattack-us-chemical-biological-weapons-borders-programmes-kremlin-a8568486.html)
Russia paints itself victim of sinister US biochemical weapons programme to distract from global condemnation of cyberattacks
I naravno, ti kvarni Rusi odbili su da učestvuju u farsi, dugo vremena pošto su izneli svoje sumnje...
https://ge.usembassy.gov/statement-on-lugar-center/ (https://ge.usembassy.gov/statement-on-lugar-center/)
Statement on Lugar Center (October 6)
Nešto me oće Intercept danas:
Trump's Amoral Saudi Statement Is a Pure Expression of Decades-Old "U.S. Values" and Foreign Policy Orthodoxies (https://theintercept.com/2018/11/21/trumps-amoral-saudi-statement-is-a-pure-and-honest-expression-of-decades-old-u-s-values-and-foreign-policy-orthodoxies/)
USA želi niže cene nafte, OPEC se opire. SArabija kao najveći izvoznik OPECa je sada zemlja čijeg princa Trump ima u šaci. Ajd prinče drž tu cenu nisko i nemaš brige oko ovog tzv. novinara koji je ionako tvoj rob podanik, šta ima mi da se mešamo.
Ako kome smeta, pušku u ruke pa u revoluciju. Otherwise, shut up and put up. Mislim, može i palamud, poželjno na tviteru. Tamo je revolucija svakog dana.
Govor senatora Majkla Beneta će se učiti u školama, ako išta ostane od škola u Americi
https://youtu.be/R2aO_3-RA00
Jesi ti mac zabrinut za ove amere...živiš tamo ili želiš da živiš tamo, ili samo tripuješ da su oni nešto bitni?
Spilberže reaguj!
Kinezi na tamnoj strani Mjeseca su pobijedili
Njihova drama je zanimljivija od naše. Vrlo je filmično sve što rade. Ne pričamo više o oskaru, ovo je za zlatne lavove i medvede. A ova naša drama, to ni za Palić nije.
kako neće biti filmično, imali su već precednika i guvernera glumca, a sad im je rijaliti igrač u Bijeloj kući :lol:
najjači rijaliti!
smrt djecacima koji nosaju kape i hodaju za zivot
https://narod.hr/svijet/americki-novinar-pozelio-smrt-djecacima-na-hodu-za-zivot-pa-dobio-otkaz-pokrenuta-kampanja-prikupljanja-novca-za-njega
...mene postalo sramota kad god čujem nešto o nama, pogotovu od nas...plašim se TVa, novinskih naslova,,,nesmem na kios' da odem....
apsurdistan...
Ovi Amerikanci STVARNO ponekad ne umeju da se snađu....
Boy, 11, arrested after refusing to recite 'racist' Pledge of Allegiance (https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/boy-11-arrested-refusing-recite-racist-pledge-allegiance-194843816.html)
Sažetak američke debate o jednoj važnoj temi :lol:
(https://i.imgur.com/RzTQoRf.jpg)
Da...i kad krenu island s 300 000 ljudi usporedjivati
Jedna zemlja ^uspjela^ 98 nije koje su slicnije americi
I ajmo sad pokusavati jos
Bizarni klasterfak vezan za Džasija Smoleta i hejt krajm koga je, navodno, bio meta, ušao je u fazu visoke farse jer su ga uhapsili zbog toga što je, tvrdi policija, Smolet sve izmislio publiciteta radi, te platio 3,500 dolara dvojici Nigerijaca da kupe crvene MAGA kačkete, konopac da ga vešaju itd. pa su odglumili napad (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-jussie-smollett/actor-smollett-staged-hate-crime-hoax-to-advance-career-chicago-police-idUSKCN1QA1HD). Naravno, ako se pokaže da je ovo sve tačno, a čini se da stvari idu na tu stranu, Smolet je učinio tako veliku medveđu uslugu svim budućim (i prošlim) metama rasističkih i homofobnih napada da to što mu je glumačka karijera sad praktično propala i što će verovatno malko u zatvor da to zvuči kao pravda na delu. Daily Show ima duhovitu i poučnu diskusiju na ovu temu:
https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1098240622945816576 (https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1098240622945816576)
Još jedan čestit američki kongresmen, Talsi Gabard sa Havaja, veteranka, a protiv američkih vojnih intervencija. Šta se to tamo dešava...
https://youtu.be/i0jnKb8MDks
Jimmy Carter's new milestone: Longest-lived US president (https://www.apnews.com/7af4a4854d1f4bfd8be8697c7ab9460a)
Sjajan članak:
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v41/n07/adam-tooze/is-this-the-end-of-the-american-century
Pošto sajt nije skroz dostupan svima i sve vreme, evo kopije teksta za svaki slučaj:
On 13 October 1806 a young German philosopher, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, had an encounter with world history. En route to their annihilation of the Prussian forces 24 hours later, Napoleon and his army were marching through the East German university town of Jena. Hegel couldn't disguise his terror that in the ensuing chaos the recently completed manuscript of The Phenomenology of Spirit might get lost in the mail. But neither could he resist the drama of the moment. As he wrote to his friend Friedrich Niethammer, 'I saw the emperor – this world-soul (Weltseele) – riding out of the city on reconnaissance. It is indeed a wonderful sensation to see such an individual, who, concentrated here at a single point, astride a horse, reaches out over the world and masters it.' Two hundred years later, in rather more sedate circumstances, the Berkeley historian Daniel J. Sargent, addressing the American Historical Association, also evoked the world spirit. But this time it came in the person of Donald Trump and he was riding not on horseback, but on a golf cart. Trump can be compared to Napoleon, according to Sargent, because they are both destroyers of international order. In the wake of the French Revolution, Napoleon wrecked what was left of the legitimate order of Europe. Trump, in turn, has apparently ended the American world order, or, as Sargent prefers to call it, Pax Americana.
Sargent's is an extraordinary suggestion, even though overenthusiastic historic comparisons have now become commonplace. Early in 2017 I was among those who thought they were seeing the end of the American century. But, even then, in the early days of the Trump administration, it seemed crucial to draw a distinction between American power and American political authority. Two years on, that distinction seems more important than ever.
The idea that Trump is a wrecker of the American-led world order rests on three claims. First, he is manifestly unfit for high office. That such a man can be elected president of the United States reveals a deep degeneration of American political culture and permanently damages the country's credibility. Second, his capricious and crude pursuit of 'America first' has weakened America's alliances and instigated a departure from globalisation based on free trade. Finally, he has triggered this crisis at a moment when China poses an unprecedented challenge to Western-led globalisation. Each of these claims is hard to deny, but do they in fact add up to a historically significant shift in the foundations of America's global power?
No question, Trump has done massive damage to the dignity of the American presidency. Even allowing for the personal and political failings of some previous incumbents, he marks a new low. What ought to be of no less concern is that he has received so little open criticism from the supposedly respectable ranks of the Republican leadership. Similarly, American big business leaders, though sceptical of Trump, have profited from his administration's tax cuts and eagerly assisted in dismantling the apparatus of environmental and financial regulation. He has been applauded by the section of the US media that caters to the right. And a solid minority of the electorate continues to give him its wholehearted support. What is worrying, therefore, isn't simply Trump himself, but the forces in America that enable him.
Of course, Trump isn't the first Republican president to evoke a mixture of outrage, horror and derision both at home and abroad. Both Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush were accused, in their time, of endangering the legitimacy of the American world order. The cultural conservatism and overt nationalism of the American right is fiercely at odds with bien pensant global opinion. This culture clash has historical roots in America's domestic struggles over civil rights, the women's and gay liberation struggles, and in the worldwide protest movement against America's brutal war in Vietnam. Since the days of Nixon and the 'Southern strategy', the Republicans have been progressively digging in, consolidating their grip on the white electorate in the South and Midwest. By the 1980s the Republican Party was an uneasy coalition between a free-market, pro-business elite and a xenophobic working and lower-middle-class base. This was always a fragile arrangement, held together by rampant nationalism and a suspicion of big government. It was able to govern in large part owing to the willingness of Democratic Party centrists to help with the heavy lifting. The Nafta free-trade agreement between the US, Mexico and Canada was initiated by George H.W. Bush, but carried over the line in 1993 by Bill Clinton, against the opposition of the American labour movement. It was Clinton's administration that righted the fiscal ship after the deficit excesses of the Reagan era, only for the budget to be blown back into deficit by the wars and tax cuts of the George W. Bush administration.
Meanwhile, the broad church of the Republican Party began to radicalise. In the 1990s, with Newt Gingrich and Karl Rove setting the tone, the battle lines hardened. With the Iraq War going horribly, and the Democrats taking control of Congress in 2006, the right became ever more dominant within the Republican Party. In 2008, in the midst of the financial crisis, the Republicans in Congress abandoned the Bush administration. The financial crisis-fighting of Hank Paulson as Bush's Treasury secretary and Ben Bernanke at the Fed relied on the Democrats for congressional support. Elite leadership of the Republican Party collapsed. John McCain chose the shockingly unqualified Sarah Palin as a running mate in the 2008 election because she was hugely popular with the Republican base, who revelled in the outrage she triggered among liberals. Barack Obama's victory in that election only exacerbated the lurch to the right. The Republicans in Congress put up a wall of opposition and indulged the populist right in openly questioning his legitimacy as president. The defeat of the centrist Mitt Romney in 2012 caused a further, decisive slide to the right, opening the door for Trump. In 2016 no major corporation was willing to sponsor the convention that nominated Trump as the Republican presidential candidate: their brand advisers were too worried that Confederate flags would be waving in the convention hall. His is the voice of the right-wing base, energised by funding from a small group of highly ideological oligarchs, no longer constrained by the globalist business elite.
A cynic might say that Trump simply says out loud what many on the right have long thought in private. He is clearly a racist, but the mass incarceration of black men since the 1970s has been a bipartisan policy. His inflammatory remarks about immigration are appalling, but it isn't as though liberal centrists would advocate a policy of open borders. The question – and it is a real question – is whether his disinhibited rhetoric announces a disastrous slide from the hypocrisies and compromises of the previous status quo into something even darker. The concern is that he will trigger an illiberal chain reaction both at home and abroad.
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At G20, G7 and Nato summits, the mood is tense. The rumour that the US is planning to charge host governments 'cost plus 50 per cent' for the military bases it has planted all over the world is the latest instance of a stance that at times seems to reduce American power to a protection racket. But for all the indignation this causes, what matters is the effect Trump's disruptive political style has on the global power balance and whether it indicates a historic rupture of the American world order. How much difference does the US being rude to European Nato members, refusing to co-operate with the WTO, or playing hardball on car imports really make?
This is not merely a debating point. It is the challenge being advanced by the Trump administration itself in its encounters with its allies and partners. Do America's alliances – do international institutions – really matter? The administration is even testing the proposition that transnational technological and business linkages must be taken as given. Might it not be better for the US simply to 'uncouple'? Where Trump's critics argue that at a time when China's power is increasing the US should strengthen its alliances abroad, the Trumpists take the opposite view. For them it is precisely in order to face down China that the US must shake up the Western alliance and redefine its terms so that it serves American interests more clearly. What we are witnessing isn't just a process of dismantling and destruction, but a deliberate strategy of stress testing. It is a strategy Trump personifies, but it goes well beyond him.
In October 2018 the giant Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman unexpectedly pulled out of the Eastern Mediterranean, where its planes had been bombarding IS's positions in Syria. It sailed into the Atlantic and then suddenly and without warning headed north. Aircraft carriers don't do this: their itineraries are planned years ahead. This was different. The Truman and its escorts headed full steam to the Arctic, making it the first carrier group to deploy there for 27 years, backing up Nato's war games in Norway. The consternation this caused delighted the Pentagon. Unpredictable 'dynamic force employment' is a key part of its new strategy to wrong-foot America's challengers.
The Harry S. Truman is a controversial ship. The Pentagon would like to scrap it in favour of more modern vessels. Congress is pushing back. The White House wants more and bigger carrier groups; the navy says it wants 12 of them. The Nimitz-class behemoths commissioned between 1975 and 2009 are to be replaced by a new fleet of even more gigantic and complex Ford-class vessels. All have their priorities, but what everyone in Washington agrees on is the need for a huge military build-up.
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The resignation of General James Mattis as defence secretary at the end of 2018 sparked yet another round of speculation about the politicking going on inside the Trump administration. But we would do better to pay more attention to his interim replacement, Patrick Shanahan, and the agenda he is pursuing. Shanahan, who spent thirty years at Boeing, is described by one insider as 'a living, breathing product of the military-industrial complex'. Under Mattis he was the organisational muscle in a Defence Department with a new focus, not on counterinsurgency, but on future conflicts between great powers. Shanahan's stock in trade is advanced technology: hypersonics, directed energy, space, cyber, quantum science and autonomous war-fighting by AI. And he has the budget to deliver. The Trump administration has asked for a staggering $750 billion for defence in 2020, more than the spending of the next seven countries in the world put together.
Declinists will point out that the US no longer has a monopoly on high-tech weaponry. But that is grist to the mill of the Trump-era strategists. They recognise the threat that great-power competition poses. Their plan is to compete and to win. In any case, most of the other substantial military spenders are American allies or protectorates, like Saudi Arabia or the European members of Nato. The only real challenges are presented by Russia and China. Russia is troublesome and the breakdown in nuclear arms control poses important and expensive questions for the future. But Russia is the old enemy. Shanahan's mantra is 'China, China, China'.
The 'pivot' in American strategy to face China was initiated not by Trump but by Obama in 2011, under Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Even then, despite their far more tactful leadership, it caused some crashing of gears. The problem is that containing China is not what Washington's system of alliances is designed to do. From the early 1970s, the days of Nixon and Kissinger, China was enrolled as a US partner in keeping the balance of power with the Soviet Union. Given half a chance, Trump would like to essay a reverse-Kissinger and recruit Russia as an ally against China. But Congress and the defence community will have none of that. Instead, the US is doubling down on its Cold War alliances in urging both South Korea and Japan to increase their defence efforts. This has the additional benefit that they will have to buy more American equipment. If the Vietnamese regime too were to veer America's way, Washington would surely welcome it with open arms.
None of this is to say that Trump's version of the pivot is coherent. If containment of China is the aim, America's Asian partners must wonder why the president scrapped the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade and investment deal within days of taking office. That elaborate package was the foundation of Obama's China-containment strategy. But for Trump and his cohorts that is muddled thinking. You cannot build American strength on the back of a giant trade deficit. Washington is no longer willing to pay for military co-operation with economic concessions: it wants both greater contributions and more balanced trade.
In Europe the Trump administration is proceeding on the same basis. Trump's antipathy towards the EU and its political culture is disconcerting. But the problem of burden-sharing has haunted Nato since its inception, and until the 1980s, at least, the Europeans were significant contributors. Until 1989 Germany's Bundeswehr was a heavily armoured and mechanised force of 500,000 men with a mobilisation strength of 1.5 million. Though its loyalty to the Federal Republic wasn't in doubt, it was unmistakably a descendant of Germany's military past. The break following the end of the Cold War was dramatic, not just in Germany but across Europe. Spending collapsed; conscription was abolished; Europe's contribution to Nato's effective strength dwindled. There were also deep disagreements between Germany, France and the US over strategic priorities, particularly on Iraq and the war on terror. But differences in threat-perception are no excuse for the dereliction of Europe's security landscape. If Europe really feels as safe as it claims to, it should have the courage to push for even deeper cuts. Instead, it continues to maintain military establishments which, taken together, make it the world's second or third largest military spender, depending on how you add up the Chinese budget. But given that it is spread across 28 poorly co-ordinated, undersized forces, Europe's $270 billion in defence spending isn't enough to buy an adequate deployable military capacity. Aside from its value as a work-creation measure, the only justification for this huge waste of resources is that it keeps the Americans on board.
The result is a balance of hard power that has for the last thirty years been extraordinarily lopsided. Never before in history has military power been as skewed as it is today. For better or worse, it is America's preponderance that shapes whatever we call the international order. And given how freely that power has been used, to call it a Pax Americana seems inapposite. A generation of American soldiers has grown used to fighting wars on totally asymmetrical terms. That for them is what the American world order means. And far from abandoning or weakening it, the Trump administration is making urgent efforts to consolidate and reinforce that asymmetry.
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How can the US afford its military, the Europeans ask. Is this just another instance of America's unbalanced constitution? Isn't there a risk of overstretch? That was certainly the worry at the end of the 1980s, and it recurred in the fears stoked during the Bush era by critics of the Iraq War and budget hawks in the Democratic Party. It doesn't play much of a role in the current debate about American power, and for good reason. The fact is that for societies at the West's current level of affluence, military spending is not shockingly disproportionate. The Nato target, which the Europeans huff and puff over, is 2 per cent of GDP; US spending is between 3 and 4 per cent of GDP. And to regard this straightforwardly as a cost is to think in cameralist terms. The overwhelming majority of the Pentagon's budget is spent in the US or with close allies. The hundreds of billions flow into businesses and communities as profit, wages and tax revenue. What's more, the Pentagon is responsible for America's most future-oriented industrial policy. Defence R&D was one of the midwives of Silicon Valley, the greatest legitimating story of modern American capitalism.
If Congress chose, defence spending could easily be funded with taxation. That is what both the Clinton and Obama administrations attempted. The Republicans do things differently. Three of the last four Republican administrations – Reagan, George W. Bush and now Trump – combined enormous tax cuts for the better-off with a huge surge in defence spending. Why? Because they can. As Dick Cheney declared, to the horror of beltway centrists: 'Reagan showed that deficits don't matter.' US Treasuries will be a liability for future American taxpayers, but by the same token they constitute by far the most important pool of safe assets for global investors. Foreign investors hold $6.2 trillion in US public debt, 39 per cent of the debt held by investors other than America's own government agencies. US taxpayers will be making heavy repayments long into the future. But they will make those payments in a currency that the US itself prints. Foreigners are happy to lend in dollars because the dollar is the pre-eminent global reserve currency.
The hegemony of the dollar-Treasury nexus in global finance remains unchallenged. The dollar's role in global finance didn't just survive the crisis of 2008: it was reinforced by it. As the world's banks gasped for dollar liquidity, the Federal Reserve transformed itself into a global lender of last resort. As part of his election campaign in 2016, Trump undertook an extraordinary vendetta against Janet Yellen, the Fed chair. But he was more restrained after he took office, and his appointment of Jerome Powell as her successor was arguably his most important concession to mainstream policy opinion. Needless to say, Trump is no respecter of the Fed's 'independence'. When it began tightening interest rates in 2018 he pushed back aggressively. (As a man who knows a thing or two about debts, he prefers borrowing costs to be low.) His bullying scandalised polite opinion. But rather than undermining the dollar as a global currency, his interventions were music to the ears of hard-pressed borrowers in emerging markets. The same applies to the giant fiscal stimulus that the Republicans launched with their tax cuts: despite rumblings of a trade war, it has kept the American demand for imports – a key element of its global leadership – at record levels.
The world economic order that America oversees was not built through consistent discipline on the part of Washington. Discipline is for crisis cases on the periphery, and dispensing it is the job of agencies like the IMF and the World Bank. Both have been through phases of weakness; in a world in which private funding is cheap and abundant even for some of the poorest countries in the world, the World Bank is struggling to define its role. But the IMF is in fine fettle, largely because the Obama administration pushed the G20 to add $1 trillion to its funding in 2009. So far the Trump administration has shown no interest in sabotaging Christine Lagarde. Over the latest bailout for Argentina, the Americans were notably co-operative. A key issue will be the rollover of the crisis-era emergency funding; from the point of view of international economic governance that may prove to be the most clear-cut test yet of the stance of the Trump presidency.
A stark illustration of the asymmetrical structure of American world order came in recent months in the use of the dollar-based system of invoicing for international trade to threaten sanctions against those tempted to do business with Iran. This outraged global opinion; the Europeans were even roused to talk about the need for 'economic sovereignty'. What they are upset about isn't the lack of order, but America's use of it. To many, Trump's withdrawal from the Iran nuclear agreement is another indication of American unreliability and unilateralism. But why is anyone surprised? It took extraordinary political finesse on the part of the Obama administration to secure backing for the Iran deal in Washington. It was always more than likely that a Republican administration would repudiate it. That may be disagreeable but it can hardly be described as a rupture with the norms of American world order. The system is hierarchical. While others are bound, America retains the sovereign freedom to choose. And that includes the right to revert to the cold war it has been waging against the Iranian Revolution since 1979.
The same harsh logic applies when it comes to the Paris Agreement on climate change. Clearly, it is a disaster that the US has pulled out. But Congress and the George W. Bush administration did the same to the Kyoto Protocol at the beginning of the century. Moves like this should not be interpreted as a rejection of international order tout court, let alone as an abdication of American leadership. The Trump administration has a clear vision of an energy-based system of American leadership and influence. It is based on the transformative technological and business breakthrough of fracking, which has broken the grip of Russia and the Saudis on oil markets and is turning the US into a net exporter of hydrocarbons for the first time since the 1950s. Liquefied natural gas is the fuel of the future. Terminals are being built at full speed on the Texas shoreline. Fracking was originally a wildcat affair but big corporate money is now pouring in. The oil giant ExxonMobil is back (after a weak commercial patch and Rex Tillerson's humiliating stint at the State Department), investing heavily in huge new discoveries in Latin America. All this will be horrifying to anyone convinced that the future of humanity depends urgently on decarbonisation. But again it is unhelpful, if the aim is to grasp the reality of international order, to conflate it with a specifically liberal interpretation of that idea.
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If Republican policy is just Republican policy, American military power is waxing not waning, and the dollar remains at the hub of the global economy, what exactly is it that is broken? The clearest site of rupture is trade, and the associated geopolitical escalation with China. The US is engaged in a sustained and effective boycott of the WTO arbitration system. But the WTO has been ailing for a long time. Since the Doha round of negotiations became deadlocked in the early 2000s it has made little contribution to trade liberalisation. In any case, the idea that legal agreements such as those done at the WTO are what drives globalisation puts the cart before the horse. What really matter are technology and the raw economics of labour costs. The container and the microchip are far more important motors of globalisation than all the GATT rounds and WTO talks put together. If in the last ten years globalisation appears to have stalled, it has more to do with a plateau in the development of global supply chains than with backsliding into protectionism.
In this regard the Trump administration's aggressive attack on America's regional trade arrangements is more significant than its boycotting of the WTO. It is in regional integration agreements that the key supply chain networks are framed. The abrupt withdrawal of the US, in the first days of the Trump presidency, from TPP in the Asia-Pacific region and TTIP in the Atlantic, was a genuine shock. But it is far from clear that either arrangement would have been pursued with any energy by a Hillary Clinton administration. She would no doubt have shifted position more gracefully. But the political cost of pushing them through Congress might well have been too high.
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In spring 2017 there was real concern that Trump might abruptly and unilaterally cancel Nafta – apparently the hundredth day of his presidency had been set as the occasion. But that threat was contained by a concerted mobilisation of business interests. Once the negotiations with Mexico and Canada started, the tone was rough. In Robert Lighthizer as his trade representative, Trump has found a bully after his own heart. But again, if you look back at the history of Nafta and WTO negotiations, tough talk is par for the course. In the end, a replacement for Nafta emerged, in the form of the United States Mexico Canada Agreement (USMCA). Apart from minor concessions on dairy exports to Canada and intellectual property protection for American pharmaceuticals, its main provisions concerned the car industry, which dominates North American trade. To escape tariffs, 40 per cent of any vehicle produced in Mexico must have been manufactured by workers earning $16 an hour, well above the US minimum wage and seven times the average manufacturing wage in Mexico. Three-quarters of a vehicle's value must originate inside the free-trade zone, restricting the use of cheap imported components from Asia. This will likely induce a modification but not a wholesale dismantling of the production networks established under Nafta. Though it was not endorsed by US trade unions, it wasn't repudiated by them either. As the American Federation of Labour and Congress of Industrial Organisations commented, the effect will depend on how it is implemented.
The auto industry was at the heart of the Nafta renegotiation and it is the critical element in simmering US-EU trade tensions too. Let there be no false equivalence, however: the incomprehension and disrespect shown by the White House towards the EU is unprecedented. It isn't clear that Trump and his entourage actually grasped that America no longer maintains bilateral trade deals with individual members of the EU. Trump's open advocacy for Brexit and encouragement of further challenges to the coherence of the EU has been extraordinary. The use of Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act to investigate car imports from Germany as a threat to American national security is absurd. Such things mark a bewildering break with previous experience. That said, Trump's obsession with the prevalence of German limousines in swanky parts of New York does highlight another painful imbalance in transatlantic relations: the persistent European trade surplus. Of course America contributes to this imbalance with its disinhibited fiscal policy: the better off Americans feel, the more likely they are to buy German cars. But as the Obama administration repeatedly pointed out, Europe's dogged refusal to stimulate faster growth is as bad for Europe as it is for the world economy. The scale of the Eurozone's overall current account surplus is highly unusual by historical standards and is both a vulnerability for Europe, leaving its producers hostage to foreign demand, and a potential source of global shocks.
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Europe's freeriding may undermine the global order, but the EU does not mount a direct challenge to US authority. China is different, and that is what truly marks out the foreign relations of our current moment as a break with the decades since the end of the Cold War. No one, including the Chinese, anticipated how rapidly the Trump administration would escalate tensions over trade in 2018 or that this would evolve into a comprehensive challenge to China's presence in the global tech sector. The US has been putting pressure on its allies to cut the Chinese telecoms giant Huawei out of their plans for 5G, the next generation of internet technology. But here the US – and its allies – are in reactive mode: the original shock was China's unprecedented growth.
China alone was responsible for a doubling of global steel and aluminimum capacity in the first decade of the 21st century. Its huge investment in R&D transformed it from a 'third world' importer of Western technology into a leading global force in 5G. As the likes of Navarro and Lighthizer see it, it was the naivety of enthusiasts for an American-led world order in the 1990s that allowed China's communist-run state capitalism into the WTO. What the globalists did not understand was the lesson of Tiananmen Square. China would integrate, but on its own terms. That could be ignored in 1989 when China's economy accounted for only 4 per cent of global GDP: now that figure is close to 20 per cent. As far as the American trade hawks are concerned, competition within an agreed international order is to be welcomed only so long as the competitors agree to play by America's rules, both economic and geopolitical. This was the lesson Europe was made to learn after the Second World War. It was the lesson that Japan was taught the hard way in the 1980s and early 1990s. If China refuses to learn that lesson, it must be contained.
America retains some huge advantages. But it would be dangerous, the argument goes, simply to count on those. Sometimes American preponderance has to be defended by a 'war of manoeuvre'. The emerging American strategy is to use threats of trade policy sanctions and aggressive counter-espionage in the tech arena, combined with a ramping up of America's military effort, to force Beijing to accept not just America's global preponderance but also its terms for navigation of the South China Sea. In pursuing this course the Trump presidency has a clear precedent: the push against the Soviet Union in the early 1980s by the Reagan administration, which deployed economic and political pressure to break what was perceived to be a menacing phase of Soviet expansion in the 1970s. Despite all the risks involved, for American conservatives that episode stands as the benchmark of successful grand strategy.
The reason the attempt to apply this lesson to present-day China is so shocking is that US business is entangled with China to an immeasurably greater degree than it ever was with the Soviet Union. If you are seeking a component of the American world order that is really being tested at the present moment, look no further than Apple's supply chain in East Asia. Unlike South Korea's Samsung, the Californian tech giant made a one-way bet on manufacturing integration with China. Almost all its iPhones are assembled there. Apple is an extreme case. But it is not alone. GM currently sells more cars in China than it does in the US. America's farmers converted their fields wholesale to grow soy beans for export to China, only to find themselves cut out of their biggest market by Brazilian competitors. And it isn't just American firms that are caught up in the escalation of tension. Important European, South Korean, Taiwanese and Japanese businesses have staked huge wagers on China.
Given these investments, one might have expected more pushback against Trump's China strategy from US business. So far there has been little. The radical decoupling of the Chinese and American economies may be so horrible a prospect that business leaders simply prefer not to discuss it in public. They may be lying low hoping the row blows over. Or it may be that American business itself buys the increasingly pessimistic diagnosis of the US intelligence and defence community, who argue China's persistent protectionism and economic nationalism may mean that it presents more of a threat than an opportunity. Even top 'China hands' like Steve Schwarzman and Hank Paulson have warned of a chill in the air.
The hardening of attitudes towards China is not confined to America. It was the Anglo-American intelligence consortium known as 'Five Eyes' that raised the alarm about Huawei's capability to build back doors into the West's most sensitive telecommunications networks. Canada and Australia are deeply concerned about Chinese penetration. The new pessimism about Sinocentric globalisation isn't confined to security policy hawks, but shared by many mainstream economists and political scientists in US academia, the think-tank world, and journalists and commentators on Chinese affairs. The liberal version of the American world order is deeply influenced by strands of modernisation theory, the up to date version of which is encapsulated in the doctrine of the middle-income trap. Very few large countries have managed to grow beyond China's current level of income. Those that have done so have kitted themselves out with the full set of liberal institutions and the rule of law. On this reading, China is in a precarious position. Xi's authoritarian turn is a decisive step in the wrong direction. Further frequently cited signs of Chinese weakness include ethnic tensions and the ageing of the population as a long-term effect of the one-child policy. There is a belief, held well beyond the administration, that the tide may be turning against Beijing and that now is the moment for the West to harden the front.
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This would indeed constitute a break with the narrative of globalisation since the 1990s. But it would hardly be a break in the American-led world order. To imagine the American world order as fully global is after all a relatively recent development. After 1945, the postwar order that is generally seen as the non plus ultra of American hegemony was built on the hardened divisions of the Cold War. Where China is concerned, the issue is not so much America's intention to lead as whether others are willing to follow. Building the Cold War order in Europe and East Asia was comparatively easy. Stalin's Soviet Union used a lot of stick and very little carrot. The same is not true of modern-day China. Its economy is the thumping heart of a gigantic East Asian industrial complex. In the event of an escalation with China, particularly in East Asia, we may find ourselves facing not so much an end of the American-led order, as an inversion of its terms. Where the US previously offered soft-power inducements to offset the threat of communist military power, backed up by hard power as a last resort, in the next phase the US may become the provider of military security against the blandishments offered by China's growth machine.
But this is premature. As of today, two years into the Trump presidency, it is a gross exaggeration to talk of an end to the American world order. The two pillars of its global power – military and financial – are still firmly in place. What has ended is any claim on the part of American democracy to provide a political model. This is certainly a historic break. Trump closes the chapter begun by Woodrow Wilson in the First World War, with his claim that American democracy articulated the deepest feelings of liberal humanity. A hundred years later, Trump has for ever personified the sleaziness, cynicism and sheer stupidity that dominates much of American political life. What we are facing is a radical disjunction between the continuity of basic structures of power and their political legitimation.
If America's president mounted on a golf buggy is a suitably ludicrous emblem of our current moment, the danger is that it suggests far too pastoral a scenario: American power trundling to retirement across manicured lawns. That is not our reality. Imagine instead the president and his buggy careening around the five-acre flight deck of a $13 billion, Ford-class, nuclear-powered aircraft carrier engaged in 'dynamic force deployment' to the South China Sea. That better captures the surreal revival of great-power politics that hangs over the present. Whether this turns out to be a violent and futile rearguard action, or a new chapter in the age of American world power, remains to be seen.
Kakav rolerkouster od članka:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/05/george-packer-pax-americana-richard-holbrooke/
Ovo je ispravan link
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/05/george-packer-pax-americana-richard-holbrooke/586042/
Nisam ovo znao:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/04/22/supreme-court-says-states-can-ban-affirmative-action-8-already-have/
Amerika je u šoku. Bauk socijalizma joj se prikrao dok nije gledala!!!
Elizabeth Warren Wants College to Be Free (https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/04/elizabeth-warren-cancel-student-debt-make-public-college-free/587683/)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 22-04-2019, 22:07:01
Amerika je u šoku. Bauk socijalizma joj se prikrao dok nije gledala!!!
Elizabeth Warren Wants College to Be Free (https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/04/elizabeth-warren-cancel-student-debt-make-public-college-free/587683/)
sreća pa nema teorije da zaživi u praksi. :lol: :lol:
ako zele da im nijedan bude medju 500 najboljih nek bude dzaba
After Vox reporting, California moves forward on plan to end surprise ER bills (https://www.vox.com/2019/4/24/18514240/california-surprise-er-bills-zuckerberg?utm_campaign=vox.social&utm_content=1556124183&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)
E, demokrate i liberai, evo vaseg novinara....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKl6XbRYOG0
Five Massive Screw-ups That Wouldn't Have Happened If We All Just Used the Metric System (https://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/five-massive-screw-ups-that-wouldnt-have-happened-if-we-1828746184)
Ovo je, doduše, priča stara osamdeset godina, ali je superzabavna:
The 70-year-old retiree who became America's worst counterfeiter (https://thehustle.co/worst-counterfeiter-in-history-mr-880/)
QuoteIt was printed on cheap bond paper that could be found at any stationary store. The serial numbers were "fuzzy" and misaligned, the Secret Service later said. George Washington's likeness was (https://peritocaligrafo-documentoscopia.com/edward-mueller-el-entranable-y-escurridizo-falsificador/) "clumsily retouched, murky and deathlike," with black blotches for eyes. And just for good measure, the ex-president's name was misspelled "Wahsington."
Ali evo onda nečeg aktuelnog:
US air quality is slipping after years of improvement (https://www.apnews.com/d3515b79af1246d08f7978f026c9092b)
Evo sažetka ovih priča o centrima za prihvat migranata u SAD o kojima bruji od prošle nedelje nakon što je gripa pravnika i lekara izvestila o lošim uslovima u kojima su pre svega deca, a ljudi počeli raspravu o tome da li je "koncentracioni logor" adekvatan termin:
'Imagine your own children there': Grim reports mount from border detention camps (https://news.yahoo.com/grim-reports-border-detention-concentration-camps-165512055.html)
Americans Shouldn't Have to Drive, but the Law Insists on It (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/car-crashes-arent-always-unavoidable/592447/)
QuoteIn America, the freedom of movement comes with an asterisk: the obligation to drive. This truism has been echoed by the U.S. Supreme Court, which has pronounced (https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/430/705) car ownership a "virtual necessity." The Court's pronouncement is telling. Yes, in a sense, America is car-dependent by choice—but it is also car-dependent by law.
Autor teksta je profesor prava, tako da, zanimljivo.
Pucnjava u El Pasu, Teksas : https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=08&dd=04&nav_category=78&nav_id=1573597
Nova pucnjava, Dejton, Ohajo : https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2019&mm=08&dd=04&nav_category=78&nav_id=1573615
America the Mediocre (https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/08/15/america-the-mediocre/)
https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/09/18/too-much-dark-money-in-almonds/
Deda bi opet malo da uređuje po Evropi...čuvajte se Si Đinpinga, Tajvan, Hongkong, ljudska prava naravno :!: i ostalo...
Da deda piše u Srbiji, garant bi dobio NIN-a :) :
https://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/svet.php?yyyy=2020&mm=02&dd=12&nav_id=1653451 (https://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/svet.php?yyyy=2020&mm=02&dd=12&nav_id=1653451)
'I Think People Will Starve.' Experts Are Worried About the Hundreds of Thousands Who Could Lose Food Stamps Come April (https://time.com/5771169/food-stamp-rule-work-requirements/)
Vulinovska mantra o tome da ljudi koji primaju socijalnu pomoć treba da rade nije, naravno, potekla od Vulina. U SAD već dve i po decenije pokušavaju da smanje broj osoba koje dobijaju bonove za hranu time što to uslovljavaju radom ili obukom za rad - što deluje podsticajno ali u oblastima sa niskom zaposlenošću je ovaj kriterijum mogao da se izbegne jer nije imao smisla. Ova administracija sada kaže da je ekonomija toliko snažna da se mora striktnije primenjivati to pravilo a što opet, kažu u tekstu, dovodi u opasnost stotine hiljada ljudi koji će bez sopstvene krivice ostati bez pristupa programu koji im obezbeđuje kakvu-takvu redovnu ishranu. Da podsetim da tipično, ovakvi programi ne hrane samo te "zdrave, odrasle osobe" koje se pokušavaju podstaći na rad već i članove njihovih porodica koji će i sami osetiti negativne efekte ovakvih inicijativa.
Ne volim kad se piše jedno, a čita drugo. Staviš link da bi ubacio "Vulinovske mantre".
Naravno da je nezaposlenost virus koji napada ljudskost. Ništa ne može toliko da uništi čoveka kao gubljenje svrhe da je deo zajednice. Nađi link koji kaže da u San Francisku ima 65000 homeless i da polako stiče etničnost. Kao siromaštvo postane profesija vrag je odneo šalu. Nažalost, metodologije borbe protiv nisu se pokazale efikasnim i povremene imaginativne akcije, kao što je bio New Deal su bljeskovi na kraju tunela, neprivlačni onima je brzo bogaćenje važnije od sporog oporavka.
Sigurno će me neko proglasiti za nedemokratu, šovinistu, pa i komunjarom, ali i komunizam znači - zajedništvo.
Ne, Vulina sam pomenuo tek da se vidi da ovakve stvari nisu izmišljotina samo našeg društva koje je, kao, primitivno, balkansko i nedemokracko, nego da ih ima i u društvima koja se busaju u grudi s ljudska prava i demokratiju.
I ja svakako mislim da je rad važan za čoveka kao pojedinca i društvo kao celinu, da mu daje dostojanstvo pa i svrhovitost, ali ovde pričamo o bukvalno ukidanju tzv. bezbednosne socijalne mreže, o ukidanju izvora hrane koji, često, hrani dobar deo porodice, na ime nekakvih možda dobronamernih ali očigledno nedovoljno dobro implementiranih politika.
Čim upotrebiš "ali" nisi se složio. Socijala je krajnje i ne dobro rešenje. Zato je kod mene jasna razdelnica između cigani i Cigani. Moji Cigani ne pristaju na socijalna rešenja. Ni svi oni koji drže do sebe. Postojala je zajednica cigana koja se selila iz opštine u opštinu u Švedskoj. Nisu znali kako da se otarase ljudi kojima se isplati da žive od socijalne pomoći. Daju im pare da odu negde drugde. Tvoje poimanje je bezvredno dok ne uvažiš da je forma samo izgovor, a da je suština negde drugde.
ALI.
Ne znam, Skalope, lepo bi bilo da svi možemo da živimo u svetu gde ljudi samo odluče da ne pristaju na socijalna rešenja i sve bude dobro, imaju da rade, imaju da zarade, imaju da jedu, da se leče, da se školuju itd. Ali ne ide to tako brzo i jednostavno. Najveći prediktor za siromaštvo, kaže sociologija, je i dalje da se rodiš siromašan. Prema tome, lepo je da društvo ipak želi i može da pomogne ljudima da barem ne gladuju, dok ih postepeno izvlači iz siromaštva. Možda i kroz više generacija...
I samo da se zna: prisiljavanje ljudi (koji, mahom, potiču iz nemaštine) da rmbače za tuđi profit, a da bi preživeli, a pod nazivom "robovlasništvo", je davno ukinuto i zabranjeno zakonima i međunarodnim konvencijama. Napredniji u civilizovanom svetu su sada fokusirani na basic income - bezuslovni novčani dohodak za sve građane društva.
Da li ikad pomisliš zašto smo na različitim stranama? Nemaš problem sa bilo kojom anomalijom na ovom forumu, ali imaš sa mnom. Čemu sam ja pretnja? Nisi ti rođen i odrastao u trinaest metara kvadratnih nego ja. Trebalo bi imati poverenja u moj senzibilitet pravde i nepravde. Formalno nije stvarno i namere koje se ne sprovode su samo zamazivanje.
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Quote from: scallop on 16-02-2020, 20:06:40
Da li ikad pomisliš zašto smo na različitim stranama? Nemaš problem sa bilo kojom anomalijom na ovom forumu, ali imaš sa mnom. Čemu sam ja pretnja? Nisi ti rođen i odrastao u trinaest metara kvadratnih nego ja. Trebalo bi imati poverenja u moj senzibilitet pravde i nepravde. Formalno nije stvarno i namere koje se ne sprovode su samo zamazivanje.
Ne, to uglavnom ti potenciraš da smo na različitim stranama, ja uopšte ne razmišljam u terminima "strana". Nismo mi ovde u areni, ni sportskoj ni gladijatorskoj, nego ćaskamo o raznim idejama, konceptima itd.
I, nisam odrastao u 13 kvadrata ali sam primao pomoć od države kada smo i ja i žena bili nezaposleni i bez prihoda. Ne bismo, verovatno, tih nekoliko meseci umrli od gladi ali sam bio neizmerno zahvalan nebrojenim ljudima koji su se izborili za to da kad skroz prsneš, ne moraš da lupiš sasvim o dno, već možeš da imaš solidarnu podršku (kojoj si, možda, kao u našem slučaju i sam doprinosio godinama) koja će ti pomoći da sačuvaš određeni nivo kontrole nad svojim životom. O dostojanstvu da i ne pričam.
Takođe, nisi ti nego ja obezbeđivao novac za narodne kuhinje u Srbiji pre petnaest i kusur godina kada je UNHCR prestajao da hrani desetine hiljada ljudi u ovoj zemlji pa i ti dopusti da imam dosta dubok uvid u to kolike su potrebe za pomoći u hrani, barem kod nas, i da se to ne rešava tako da ljudima, poput nekog domaćeg Bena Šapiroa kažeš "A zašto jednostavno ne odlučite da više ne budeete siromašni?"
Naravno da si bolji. Ja samo zadržavam pravo da neobavezno ćaskama.
Strašno je šta se ovde diskutuje. Kakve retrogradne "ideje", kakve ofucane "teorije", kakva "veruj meni" argumentacija. Jednostavno strašno za jedan sf forum.
Quote from: Ksenija Atanasijević on 16-02-2020, 20:42:53
Strašno je šta se ovde diskutuje. Kakve retrogradne "ideje", kakve ofucane "teorije", kakva "veruj meni" argumentacija. Jednostavno strašno za jedan sf forum.
Šta ćeš bolji dokaz kad forum tebe trpi godinama?
Quote from: scallop on 16-02-2020, 20:52:23
Quote from: Ksenija Atanasijević on 16-02-2020, 20:42:53
Strašno je šta se ovde diskutuje. Kakve retrogradne "ideje", kakve ofucane "teorije", kakva "veruj meni" argumentacija. Jednostavno strašno za jedan sf forum.
Šta ćeš bolji dokaz kad forum tebe trpi godinama?
Samo zato što je to u duhu jedne od tema sajta, tj. horora. D. se tematski uklapa. :lol:
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Get a life, jadniče.
Quote from: Ksenija Atanasijević on 16-02-2020, 18:21:13
ALI.
Ti dolaziš da besramno troluješ forum najjadnijim oblikom trolovanja.
Svi te ignorišu u raspravi i tebi to nije dovoljno jadno da prestaneš već nastavljaš, nastavljaš... aj se malo saberi...
Forum nije život, jadniče.
Jadnice, tvoj "život" te čeka, tj. twitter. :roll:
Znam da me stalkuješ i tamo. Zato znam i da nemaš život.
Mene ima jedno 5900% na internetu manje od tebe koja "imaš život".
I ne patim od manije proganjanja, kompleksa više vrednosti i drugih psihičkih poremećaja od kojih pate jedino neostvareni narcisoidni jadnici. :|
Ti bi znao koliko me ima na netu s obzirom da me proganjaš na svakoj mreži.
Pa pisala si mi na mejl o svojim aktivnostima, remember? Ne zatvaraš usta o samoj sebi. :)
A, evo ga, budi se psihopata, stalker žena. Odjebi.
Kaže mi lujka koja sa tuđih profila godinama stalkuje moju fb stranu, dok sam zaboravio da postoji. Odjebi više sa sajta sa kojeg si svojevoljno sama otišla i nećeš me u životu nikad videti. :lol:
Šta god ti pomaže da preguraš dan. A sad ignor.
Najviše mi pomaže (a mislim da tu nisam ni jedini) da preguram dan s tobom tvoj vibrator. :|
Pokušao sam da ti pošaljem privatnu poruku, pošto si me blokirala ide ovako javno:
DM (bez ličnih podataka),
ako nastaviš da me nazivaš stalkerom i uznemirivačem žena podneću protiv tebe tužbu sudu za klevetu.
Smrtno sam ozbiljan. Dojadila mi je tvoja javna haranga na mene bez ikakvog pokrića. I tvoje podle laži.
Nastavi i imaćeš priliku da na sudu dokažeš koje su to žene, imenom i prezimenom koje sam uzemiravao, stalkovao ili šta već.
Pošto ne postoji ni jedna jedina. Ako sam u životu patio od slomljenog srca patio sam samo ja, naravno da nijedna žena sa kojom sam bio te moje patnje i ne zna, ako ih je i bilo. A to svakako nisi bila ti, jer tebe nisam karao.
Ajde sjaši, đubre jedno iskompleksirano. xuzi
Quote from: Linʞᴉn on 17-02-2020, 00:06:18
Pokušao sam da ti pošaljem privatnu poruku, pošto si me blokirala ide ovako javno:
DM,
ako nastaviš da me nazivaš stalkerom i uznemirivačem žena podneću protiv tebe tužbu sudu za klevetu.
Smrtno sam ozbiljan. Dojadila mi je tvoja javna haranga na mene bez ikakvog pokrića. I tvoje podle laži.
Nastavi i imaćeš priliku da na sudu dokažeš koje su to žene, imenom i prezimenom koje sam uzemiravao, stalkovao ili šta već.
Pošto ne postoji ni jedna jedina. Ako sam u životu patio od slomljenog srca patio sam samo ja, naravno da nijedna žena sa kojom sam bio te moje patnje i ne zna, ako ih je i bilo. A to svakako nisi bila ti, jer tebe nisam karao.
Ajde sjaši, đubre jedno iskompleksirano. xuzi
Podrzavam
Ako treba izjava na sudu (bez da putujem) dakle kod nas na opcinskom sudu imas svjedoka
Ako Elon Mask nije kažnjen zbog "pedo guy" izjave nema šanse da od ovog bude nešto. Ali uzeću kokice, a vi nastavite..
To su kazne baš za takve kao što je D, za nasilnike koje se bave verbalnim zlostavljanjem.
Eno, Andrej Fajgelj i dalje skuplja novac da plati dvesto hiljada Laslu Blaškoviću. Ućutao se, nema ga više nigde.
Poštovanje druže Trubo za iskazanu mušku solidarnost. Dosta su muškarci ćutali i trpeli feminističko zlostavljanje! :|
In other news, Amerika na ivici propasti!
https://youtu.be/EdvJSGc14xA
Potrebni su kapitalni projekti. Tramp je obećavao infrastrukturu, ali Tramp obećao - Tramp ne ispunio. U jednom trenutku se popišmanio i prepustio kapitalne projekte lokalnim vlastima i privatnim investitorima. Problem sa kapitalnim projektima je što ne vraćaju pare tako drobro kao drugi projekti, i investitori nisu zainteresovani. Videćemo šta će biti posle izbora.
Malo podsećanje zašto je Amerika loše mesto da se na njemu bude u ovakvim momentima:
Coronavirus is revealing ugly truths about social structure in the US (https://qz.com/1818548/coronavirus-is-revealing-ugly-truths-about-social-structure-in-the-us)
Eto, navukao si me da se umešam u pisanje, a ko zna koji put sam se zakleo da neću. Jebote, pitaj jednom, posle će ti biti lakše.
Tolko losa zemlja da svi hrle u nju
Democrats Block Senate Coronavirus Bill, Calling It A 'Corporate Bailout' (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-senate-relief-bill_n_5e77d45fc5b63c3b6492a6a6)
Kraj neoliberalnog kapitalizma as we know it. Da li će povući i sve nas sa sobom, to ćemo da vidimo.
Pa, trude se, svakako. Nude pozajmice maloj privredi a velikim korporacijama bespovratnu pomoć, umesto obrnuto.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2020/04/04/coronavirus-government-dysfunction/?arc404=true
Inače, zna se da znatan deo softvera koji koriste banke, ali i mnoge druge strukture u SAD datira još iz sedamdesetih i napisan je u COBOL-u, jeziku koji je čak i u vreme kada sam ja učio* da programiran, polovinom osamdesetih, smatran malko zastarelim. Elem, aktuelna kriza je poslužila da se podvuče bolan nedostatak programera koji imaju veštine i iskustva vezana za ovaj jezik:
COVID-19 Response: New Jersey Urgently Needs COBOL Programmers (Yes, You Read That Correctly) (https://josephsteinberg.com/covid-19-response-new-jersey-urgently-needs-cobol-programmers-yes-you-read-that-correctly/)
*Ne i naučio...
Nije problem što nema programera, nego je problem što se ne ulažu pare u zamenu softvera. Kratkovidost je problem.
Taman sam se htio cuditi da i programirati znas
Pa koliko traje dan u tebe?
Spavas li ikako
Pretpostavljam da ovo kažeš Mehi, jer je valjda opštepoznato da ja jesam programer :)
Ja sam namerno i stavio fusnotu da bude jasno da nikada nisam naučio programiranje.
Dozens buried on NY Hart Island a day as coronavirus deaths surge
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/dozens-buried-ny-hart-island-day-coronavirus-deaths-surge-200409202454538.html (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/dozens-buried-ny-hart-island-day-coronavirus-deaths-surge-200409202454538.html)
Gavin Newsom Declares California a 'Nation-State' (https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-04-09/california-declares-independence-from-trump-s-coronavirus-plans?srnd=opinion)
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Governor Gavin Newsom said that he would use the bulk purchasing power of California "as a nation-state" to acquire the hospital supplies that the federal government has failed to provide. If all goes according to plan, Newsom said, California might even "export some of those supplies to states in need."
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 08-04-2020, 17:50:02
Ja sam namerno i stavio fusnotu da bude jasno da nikada nisam naučio programiranje.
Cudo nisi naucio
Pa, nisam ja mnogo toga naučio u životu. Statistički, više sam nenaučio nego naučio. Tako da - nije toliko čudo. :lol:
Više je i zaboravio nego što su neki drugi naučili...
mac, postoji li najlakši način da naučim python? Zbog neoliberala.
Ne znam ništa o najlakšim načinima za učenje. A ne znam ništa ni o pajtonu.
služiš li ičemu, mače!
jesu li ovi priručnici što štampa mikroknjiga išta pouzdani
Ne zna ti to mac jer je pajton više za matematičare, statističare, dejta analitičare nego programere.
Ima u sebi biblioteke koje su razvili drugi matematičari za specifične vrste problema, vezanih za dejta analitiku, big dejta, mašin lrning, dip lrning i sl.
Mi smo npr. koristili pandu i numpy.
Nisam se mnogo bavio tim, ali kad bi krenuo gledao bi prvo vrstu problema za koju mi treba pajton i razmotrio specifične biblioteke koje ću koristiti, pa tek onda birao i kupovao knjigu ili kurs.
Najlakši način za učenje su možda kursevi na Udemy, sadrže video materijale, praktično kao da imaš živog predavača za male pare u rangu cene knjige.
Evo za pajton:
https://www.udemy.com/topic/python/
Ovaj dokumentarac je bio nominovan pre par godina za Oskara:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxxxlutsKuI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxxxlutsKuI)
Šta, nije dobio Oskara? Eh, kolone, jebale vas one.
Zasto nije izasao prije 5 ili 7 godina
Gluperde:
Black Women, Women of Color Will Be Disproportionately Affected by SCOTUS's Ruling on Birth Control (https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/politics/a33265545/supreme-court-contraceptive-aca-disproportionate-effects/)
QuoteAmericans are, of course, the most thoroughly and passively indoctrinated people on earth. They know next to nothing as a rule about their own history, or the histories of other nations, or the histories of the various social movements that have risen and fallen in the past, and they certainly know little or nothing of the complexities and contradictions comprised within words like "socialism" and "capitalism." Chiefly, what they have been trained not to know or even suspect is that, in many ways, they enjoy far fewer freedoms, and suffer under a more intrusive centralized state, than do the citizens of countries with more vigorous social-democratic institutions. This is at once the most comic and most tragic aspect of the excitable alarm that talk of social democracy or democratic socialism can elicit on these shores. An enormous number of Americans have been persuaded to believe that they are freer in the abstract than, say, Germans or Danes precisely because they possess far fewer freedoms in the concrete. They are far more vulnerable to medical and financial crisis, far more likely to receive inadequate health coverage, far more prone to irreparable insolvency, far more unprotected against predatory creditors, far more subject to income inequality, and so forth, while effectively paying more in tax (when one figures in federal, state, local, and sales taxes, and then compounds those by all the expenditures that in this country, as almost nowhere else, their taxes do not cover). One might think that a people who once rebelled against the mightiest empire on earth on the principle of no taxation without representation would not meekly accept taxation without adequate government services. But we accept what we have become used to, I suppose. Even so, one has to ask, what state apparatus in the "free" world could be more powerful and tyrannical than the one that taxes its citizens while providing no substantial civic benefits in return, solely in order to enrich a piratically overinflated military-industrial complex and to ease the tax burdens of the immensely wealthy?
For twenty-one years, while the Kochs were financing an ideological war aimed at freeing American business from the grip of government, Donald Carlson was cleaning up the dregs their industry left behind. Stitched to the jacket he wore to work at Koch Refining Company, the booming Pine Bend Refinery in Rosemount, Minnesota, was the name Bull. His colleagues called him this because of his brawn and his willingness to shoulder the tasks no one else wanted to touch. "He wasn't always the greatest guy or dad, but he got up every morning and went to work. He stepped up to the plate every day," recalls his widow, Doreen Carlson. "If a job was too hard, they gave it to him."
Beginning in 1974, when he was hired, Carlson worked twelve- and sometimes sixteen-hour shifts at the refinery. Its profitability had proven the Kochs' purchase of Pine Bend prophetic. It had become the largest refinery north of Louisiana with the capacity to process 330,000 barrels of crude a day, a quarter of what Canada exported to the United States. It provided over half of the gas used in Minnesota and 40 percent of that used by Wisconsin. Carlson's job was demanding, but he enjoyed it. He cleaned out huge tanks that contained leaded gasoline, scraping them down by hand. He took samples from storage tanks whose vapors escaped with such force they sometimes blew his helmet off.
He hoisted heavy loads and vacuumed up fuel spills deep enough to cause burns to his legs. Like many of the one thousand employees at the refinery, Carlson was often exposed to toxic substances. "He was practically swimming in those tanks," his wife recalled. But Carlson never thought twice about the hazards. "I was a young guy," he explained later. "They didn't tell me anything, I didn't know anything."
In particular, Carlson said, no one warned him about benzene, a colorless liquid chemical compound refined from crude oil. In 1928, two Italian doctors first detected a connection between it and cancer. Afterward, numerous scientific studies linked chronic benzene exposure to greatly increased risks of leukemia. Four federal agencies—the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Food and Drug Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency, and the Centers for Disease Control—have all declared benzene a human carcinogen. Asked under oath if he'd been warned about the harm it posed to his hemoglobin, Carlson replied, "I didn't even know what hemoglobin was."
In 1995, Carlson became too sick to work any longer at the refinery. When he obtained his company medical records, he and his wife were shocked by what they read. In the late 1970s, OSHA had issued regulations requiring companies whose workers were exposed to benzene to offer annual blood tests, and to retest, and notify workers if any abnormalities were found. Companies were also required to refer employees with abnormal results to medical specialists. Koch Refining Company had offered the annual blood tests as legally required, and Carlson had dutifully taken advantage of the regular screening. But what he discovered was that even though his tests had shown increasingly serious, abnormal blood cell counts beginning in 1990, as well as in 1992 and 1993, the company had not mentioned it to him until 1994.
Charles Koch had disparaged government regulations as "socialistic." From his standpoint, the regulatory state that had grown out of the Progressive Era was an illegitimate encroachment on free enterprise and a roadblock to initiative and profitability. But while such theories might appeal to the company's owners, the reality was quite different for many of their tens of thousands of employees.
Carlson continued working for another year but grew weaker, needing transfusions of three to five pints of blood a week. Finally, in the summer of 1995, he grew too sick to work at all. At that point, his wife recalls, "they let him go. Six-months' pay is what they gave him. It was basically his accumulated sick pay." Carlson argued that his illness was job related, but Koch Refining denied this claim, refusing to pay him workers' compensation, which would have covered his medical bills and continued dependency benefits for his wife and their teenage daughter. "The doctor couldn't believe he was never put on workmen's comp," she added. "We were just naive. We didn't think people would let you die. We thought, 'They help you, don't they?' "
In February 1997, twenty-three years after he joined Koch Industries, Donald Carlson died of leukemia. He was fifty-three. He and his wife had been married thirty-one years. "Almost the worst part," she said, was that "he died thinking he'd let us down financially." She added, "My husband was the sort of man who truly believed that if you worked hard and did a good job, you would be rewarded."
Furious at the company, Doreen waged a one-woman battle to get Koch Industries to acknowledge some responsibility for her husband's death and apologize. "I'm looking for some accountability," she told Tom Meersman, a reporter for the Minneapolis Star Tribune. For three years, Carlson pressed her legal claim. The company offered her some money but refused to call it compensation for a work-related death. It resisted until minutes before the case was about to be heard by a judge. And when it did finally agree to her terms, it did so only if she would sign a confidentiality agreement, keeping the matter private. "They never admitted it. They avoided court. There was no written record. They just gave me those little crumbs and told me to keep my mouth shut," she recalled.
More than a dozen years later, Carlson's confidentiality agreement had expired, and she could speak out. "I don't think you could write what I think of Koch. You're just collateral damage. It's just money for them, and they never have enough." Pressed about whether it was fair to pin the blame on the Kochs themselves, rather than on lower-level executives she dealt with, she retorted, "Charles Koch owns the refinery." She went on, "And they want less regulations? Can you imagine? What they want is things that benefit them. They never cut into their profits. I hear they're backing a lot of people politically, and I bet it's all about getting rid of regulations," she said. "But those regulations are for safety. It's not to make your workers rich; it's so they don't die."
'Rich people leave, artists and queerdos return': is San Francisco's tech exodus real or a fantasy? (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/12/san-francisco-tech-workers-leaving-rent-covid-remote-work)
8:46 - Dave Chappelle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tR6mKcBbT4
Direktor Kancelarije za KiM Marko Đurić biće novi ambasador Srbije u Vašingtonu, nezvanično saznaje B92.net.
https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/09/transgender-metalhead-satanist-republican-nomination-county-sheriff/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2017/03/22/yes-it-was-the-affordable-care-act-that-increased-premiums/#4d8c0e7a11d2
Porn Stars Are Terrified of Amy Coney Barrett (https://www.thedailybeast.com/porn-stars-are-terrified-of-amy-coney-barrett)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGXRvDT2k8I
Johnny Carson - Joe Biden joke (September 16th 1987)
Gdje smo pricali o onoj radikalnoj komunistici
Aoc
Vidim tvit
Zenska bi da prosiri vrhovni sud :D
Ti ljudi jednostavno ne znaju igrati po pravilima
Ne zele
Zato pozivaju na revolucije
O kojim pravilima pričaš? O pravilu da predsednik bira sudiju, a senat mora da ga potvrdi? Ili o pravilu da ono što važi danas mora da važi i sutra?
Pa valjda sud ima x clanova
Sad bi mlada mijenjala da ima x+3
Slicno i sa imigrantima koje naprimaju da glasaju za njih
I majkl mur je srao kako se mora mijenjati popular vote naspram elektorskih glasova
Znaci mijenjaj pravila dok moja verzija kandidat plan ne pobijedi
Pa valjda trenutni predsednik treba da bira novog sudiju, a senat samo da potvrdi. Republički senat je odlučio da ignoriše Obaminog kandidata, pod izgovorom da je izborna kampanja u toku. Izborna kampanja nije zaista bila u toku, ali sve se dešavalo u poslednjoj Obaminoj godini. U svakom slučaju totalno nebulozan izgovor, ali ajde, ako sad imamo pravilo, onda hajde svi da ga se držimo.
Ne lezi vraže. Sada je izborna kapanja zaista u toku, dve nedelje pred same izbore, i senat je pogazio sopstveno pravilo i ipak odabrao Trampovog trećeg kandidata.
Dakle senat je taj koji "ne zna igrati po pravilima", i to pravilima koje je sam uveo. Ne žele. Zato pozivaju na revoucije.
A taj broj X se menjao vremenom. Evo šta kaže Vikipedija: Originally, the Judiciary Act of 1789 set the number of justices at six. Subsequently, the United States Congress increased the number of justices to seven in 1807, nine in 1837, and ten in 1863. The Judicial Circuits Act of 1866 set the number at seven to be achieved gradually through retirement or death of current associate justices. The court was down to eight when the Judiciary Act of 1869 restored the number to nine.
Dakle originalno je broj sudija bio 6, pa se menjalo na 7, 9, 10, 7, 8, i trenutno na 9.
Treba nadopuniti sa 4 5 liberala da sve bude posteno
Prvo revolucija.
nijedan komunista u sudu
Hit
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Ako je broj aviona i bombi isti onda ne vidim razliku. Ako nema razlike onda čemu tolika buka?
Obama ima refleksije na dronovski program.
https://youtu.be/V-Q8MFjlQ2Y
Here's how rich people can help fix America (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-how-rich-people-can-help-fix-america-130505600.html)
Ovo je zanimljiv podatak, recimo:
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The top 1% of Americans now hold $34.23 trillion of wealth, while the bottom 50% have $2.08 trillion, according to the Federal Reserve (https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distribute/table/). In other words, the top 1% of the country has 16.5 times more money than the bottom half. Are you kidding me?
Isn't it always that way, you ask? Actually no, not at all. In Q3 1989, (the furthest back the data goes) the wealthiest 1% had $4.81 trillion, while the lowest 50% had $.76 trillion—or only 6.3 times more. And as we've seen that ratio kept getting bigger.
Nemoguće da su Klinton, Obama i Bajden to dozvolili!
Nije parodija, nije fotomontaža, ovo je zaista napisao američki senator koji se nekada nadao da bude i predsednik:
(https://i.imgur.com/LH9yWOC.jpg)
ne verujem da je on lično, ne pišu oni svoje tvitove ko tramp i vučić, al dovoljno govori kakva mu je ekipa oko njega. premda je zabavno. :)
Da, u pravu si, ovo neki siroti intern koji će sad da zažali što nije malo jače slušo u školi.
taj Kruz je onaj evangelista mrsomud, njemu je i Tramp previše lijevo haha
Ko vodi evidenciju, može da zapiše da je Bajdenova administracija imala svoju prvu ozbiljnu vojnu akciju na tlu druge države:
Biden takes first military action with Syria strike on Iran-backed militias (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56205056)
Nije da to nismo očekivali. Ono što možda nismo očekivali je da se ipak javlja dosta liberalnih, jelte, intelektualaca koji ovo kritikuju, kao da su se malko ipak trgli i shvataju da su ovakve stvari pod Obamom puštali tek tako i da to nije ljucki.
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Da, ovo kruži internetom, toliko je karikaturalno da skoro ne mogu da poverujem da je stvarno.
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I Trampov avion je bacao bombe, da se ne lažemo, samo nisi video te bombe od silnih tvitova.
Who truly was the most dishonest president? (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56246507)
Nije problem što je Tramp bio nepošten, već nesposoban. Ta kombinacija nepošten i nesposoban ne daje drugi mandat.
Da je imao bolje rezultate na unutrašnjem planu, ostao bi. Tako je i planirao. Korona ga je s tim zeznula, anulirajući ekonomske rezultate njegove administracije.
Demokrati u Americi dobili napad socijalizma. :lol: :lol: :lol:
https://theslot.jezebel.com/we-did-it-joe-1846450545 (https://theslot.jezebel.com/we-did-it-joe-1846450545)
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• The average household in the bottom quintile of America's economic ladder will see its annual income rise
by more than 20 percent (https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1369013878873526275).
• A family of four with one working parent and one unemployed one will have $12,460 more in government benefits (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/06/business/economy/biden-economy.html)to help them make ends meet.
• The poorest single mothers in America will receive at least $3,000 more per child in government support, along with $1,400 for themselves and additional funds for nutritional assistance and rental aid.
• Child poverty in the U.S. will drop by half (https://www.npr.org/2021/02/26/970999998/with-one-move-congress-could-lift-millions-of-children-out-of-poverty).
• More than 1 million unionized workers who were poised to lose their pensions (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/07/business/dealbook/bailout-pensions-stimulus.html) will now receive 100 percent of their promised retirement benefits for at least the next 30 years.
• America's Indigenous communities will receive $31.2 billion in aid (https://twitter.com/jnoisecat/status/1368310539672227841), the largest investment the federal government has ever made in the country's Native people.
• Black farmers will receive $5 billion (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/03/08/reparations-black-farmers-stimulus/)in recompense for a century of discrimination and dispossession, a miniature reparation that will have huge consequences for individual African-American agriculturalists, many of whom will escape from debt and retain their land as a direct result of the legislation.
• The large majority of Americans who earn less than $75,000 as individuals or less than $150,000 as couples will receive a $1,400 stimulus check for themselves and another for each child or adult dependent in their care.
• America's child-care centers will not go into bankruptcy en masse, thanks to a $39 billion investment in the nation's care infrastructure (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/covid-19-relief-bill-child-care-industry_n_603e85eac5b601179ec0fabc).
• Virtually all states and municipalities in America will exit the pandemic in better fiscal health than pre-COVID, which is to say a great many layoffs of public employees and cutbacks in public services will be averted.
• No one in the United States will have to devote more than 8.5 percent of their income to paying for health insurance (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/22287299/joe-biden-covid-19-stimulus-bill-obamacare-enrollment) for at least the next two years, while ACA plans will become premium-free for a large number of low-income workers.
• America's unemployed will not see their federal benefits lapse this weekend and will have an extra $300 to spend every week through the first week in September.
Crni farmeri će dobiti 5 milijardi za ispravku nepravdi haha
Fazon Vučić 30 eura
(https://i.ibb.co/DK62zCc/World.png)
https://youtu.be/b3YJ24roIzk (https://youtu.be/b3YJ24roIzk)
Zakon mora da se poštuje. Zakon određuje uloge policije i sudstva. Policija se ne bavi posslom sudstva, niti se sudstvo bavi poslom policije. Posao policije nije da osuđuje, niti da se sveti kriminalcima za počinjena dela. Posao policije je da privodi osumjničene, da bi im se sudilo tamo gde je suđenju mesto. Ako policija prekorači svoja ovlašćenja, onda država polako postaje policijska država, u kojoj policija ima više moći nego što je zdravo za državu. Prekoračivanje ovlašćenja državnih organa je vid korupcije u državi.
Nije bitno kakav je kriminalac Flojd bio. Bitno je da policija ne sme da prekoračuje svoja ovlašćenja. Da li je policajac bio ovlašćen da čoveku drži koleno na vratu, sve dok čovek nije izdahnuo? Nije. Policajac ne sme to da radi, čak i ako se čovek opire hapšenju. Jednom kad čoveku staviš lisice na ruke, taj čovek više nikuda ne može da pobegde. Nema više potrebe za kolenom na vratu. Policajac mora zato da se kazni po zakonu.
Mudro zboriš bledoliki.
Slažem se oko odgovornosti i ovlašćenja, ali i treba da budemo svesni da su Ameri eksperti za 4P i da će lako crno postati belo i obrnuto ako fokus grupa odredi da im odgovara takav diskurs bez obzira na ta ista ovlašćenja i odgovornosti.
How Many False Claims Did Biden Make In His First 100 Days Compared To Trump? (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-false-claims-first-100-days_n_608741d5e4b003896e084c9a)
Quote
Biden made 67 false and misleading statements in his first 100 days in office, according to a report Monday from The Washington Post's fact checker (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/biden-fact-checker-100-days/?itid=sf_fact-checker). That compares to 511 such comments from his predecessor Donald Trump (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) in his first 100 days.
(...)
Biden has also tweeted considerably less than his predecessor and tends not to repeat his false claims if they've been fact-checked and shown to be false.
Sjajna analiza:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/07/george-packer-four-americas/619012/
Dobar članak. Malo dug, ali vredi.
previše je to neki opis šta on vidi, a ne šta je suština tih manifestacija jednog te istog neoliberalizma
npr lik stavio Hajeka u free America, lik je bukvalno više smart America nego free
ali ovaj ih tako radikalno razdvoji jer bi mu prso mozak kad bi našao in flagranti dokaz da Hajek stoji iza svih: Regana, Obame, Klintona, Gingriča, Pola Rajana, Bajdena, Trampa...
pa Hajek kod nas je i Đinđić i Vučić i ljudi uporno sanjaju da nije...
Bato vidi Hajeka svugde. :lol:
A ozbiljno, kad ga tako prodaš, dođe mi odma da naručim The Road to Serfdom (Mizesov Human Action već imam, mada ne znam treba li to ovako javno da priznajem).
Spomenuo lik Hajeka, nije da sam ga sam ubacio. Samo ne kontaju lika, pa on stvarno jeste svugdje, gdje god zagrebeš ispliva, iz tanjira supe.
Sve se može provjeriti vrlo jednostavno, pa eto to čuveno Sorosovo Otvoreno društvo, to bi trebalo biti smart protiv free Amerike, ne? I onda zagrebeš i ispadne Soros ime pokupio od svog profesora Karla Popera, otvoriš Pooerove knjige a u njima Hajek citiran osamsto puta, jedna knjiga ima posvetu Hajeku. I tog Popera furaju svi od Tuđmana do Fonda za otvoreno društvo.
Ili čuveni Šreder-Bler-Klinton socijaldemokratski treći put iz 1997. Uzmeš knjigu Entonija Gidensa Third Way koji je koncipirao njihovu platformu, u knjizi sve sami citati Hajeka. I sad je Klinton =/= Buš ili Regan
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Pa ako laže koza ne laže Bata!
Taj Hajek u svojoj knjizi Poredak slobode razvija koncept naprednog ili naprednjačkog društva. Misim jel konspirasi ukazati na to?
Đe god i šta god čitate prvo bibliografija i jel citiran ovaj deran!
A Mizes mu je bio učitelj. Đejp, pa ti si peta kolona! 8-)
Jeste konspirasi kad impliciraš da citiranje Hajeka automatski znači da se čovek u svemu slaže sa Hajekom, kao i da učenik prihvata sve od učitelja, kao da mu je apostol. Konspirasi je i insistirati da sve Hajekovo treba demontirati. Nema tu prave kritike ako ne kažeš to-i-to ne valja, nego kažeš Hajek ne valja i sve u krugu od 15000 km oko Hajeka ne valja.
Moš to i vako gledat: Hajek nekima valja a nekima ne valja. U Danskoj sigurno neće djelovati na isti način kao u Srbiji, jer je Danska centralna zemlja u kapitalističkom sistemu a Srbija polu-periferna.
Dakle, u Srbiji i na Balkanu uopšte Hajek ne valja ništa.
Zamisli to vako: Hajek je u J. Africi umanjivao pogubnost aparthejda a u Čileu podržavao Pinočea naspram Aljendea.
Pa Hajek crncima i glasačima Aljendea ništa ne valja, ni jedan posto. A lopinama, secikesama i imperijalistima i fašistima je o'ličan.
I toj Danskoj je odličan dok plaćaju radnika u Bangladešu dva dolara.
Mizes naravno ima razlika ali kakvih, pa Mizes je u svojoj knjizi Liberalism napisao: "Fascism saved European civilization"
Knjiga je iz 1927. godine pa kao možemo se vaditi da nije mislio na Hitlera. A na Hortija, Prima de Riveru i Musolinija vala jeste mislio.
Neki pričaju da je Mizes to napisao inspirisan terorom austrijske države protiv radnika u Beču, kad su ih izlomili 1927. godine i krenuli u polako lomljenje crvenog Beča.
Nemaju ti ljudi opravdanja, o čemu pričate.
Pa sad. Da nema Hajeka šta bi se dešavalo u svetu? Možda države koje sarađuju u eksloataciji periferije ne bi sarađivale, nego bi ratovale na toj istoj periferiji. Mozda se sečenje ruku u Kongou ne bi zadržalo samo u Kongou, nego bi sekli ruke i na Balkanu. Možda kolonijalni sistem nikad ne bi prestao.
To je zato što misliš da ljudski umovi stvaraju budućnost. Ono kao ti zamisliš ideju i ona se ostvari. To je još Marks kritikovao da nhemački idealisti tvrde da se čovjek udavio jer nije vjerovao u ideju plutanja.
Sječa ruku, holokaust i fašizam se dešavaju kad im je vrijeme: duboka ekonomska kriza (uskoro slijedi), velike sile hoće da zaštite svoje interese (pa piskaraju nonpejpere), kolinijalizam uporedo s širenjem ratnih saveza... Jedino što SAD nije tolko trula ko Rusija i Austrougarska ili Turska, al polako, i Antanta je prvo formirana pa je rat počo dvaes godina kasnije.
P. S. Kidaju oni ruke u Palestini, nije ni to tolko daleko.
Da, ali Hajek nije samo izmislio nešto, nego je i širio to svoje jevanđelje po Hajeku. Rukovao se sa Reganom. Samim tim što pričamo o Hajeku znači da je Hajek imao uticaja na svet.
https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-choral-composer-antifa-blm-gia/
Pa ko kaže da nije? Atlantic magazin laže da je imao uticaj samo na Free America. Imao je uticaj na 3 od 4, mada ova četvrta pojma nemam ni šta je, izmislio lik.
E da, kakvi road to serfdom, to je za raju, poredak slobode i pravo, zakonodavstvo i sloboda.
Drugo je zapravo njegov magnum opus i najznačajnije je, al prvo je biblija tačer i regana.
Računajte da je prvo free a drugo smart america.
Quote from: Father Jape on 15-06-2021, 16:49:36
https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-choral-composer-antifa-blm-gia/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason_Foundation
Pa ja ovo ne mogu izmislit [emoji38]
Reason Foundation cofounder Robert Poole is an MIT-trained engineer and the author of Cutting Back City Hall.[7] The book provided the intellectual support for Margaret Thatcher's privatization efforts in the United Kingdom
Nevezano za tekst, koji je kako-tako ok.
Đejp neoliberalu!
Quote from: Labudan on 15-06-2021, 16:08:29
...
Sječa ruku, holokaust i fašizam se dešavaju kad im je vrijeme: duboka ekonomska kriza (uskoro slijedi)...
xremyb svidja mi se ovo tvoje uskoro, nadam se da si bar jednom u pravu.
zar to mora da se objašnjava... prema Kondratijevljevim ciklusima krize u kapitalizmu su redovna stvar. Samo što su u 19. stoljeću se dešavale u razmaku od 50-60 godina, a sad - 10 godina.
2008. pa 2020. uspjeli su su pripisati koroni to posrnuće al zapravo finansijski je sve bilo spremno da pukne
pošto se periodi između kriza skraćuju vadiće se iz ove nekoliko godina i neće se izvaditi a tresnuće ih druga
Quote from: Labudan on 15-06-2021, 16:56:00
Quote from: Father Jape on 15-06-2021, 16:49:36
https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-choral-composer-antifa-blm-gia/ (https://reason.com/2021/06/15/daniel-elder-cancel-culture-choral-composer-antifa-blm-gia/)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason_Foundation
Pa ja ovo ne mogu izmislit (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji38.png)
Reason Foundation cofounder Robert Poole is an MIT-trained engineer and the author of Cutting Back City Hall.[7] The book provided the intellectual support for Margaret Thatcher's privatization efforts in the United Kingdom
Nevezano za tekst, koji je kako-tako ok.
Đejp neoliberalu!
Hahaahahhaha, vrh!
Nisam nikad bio na sajtu do danas kad sam video taj tekst na Tviteru, kunem se! :mrgreen:
zato imaš Human Action! Koji sam btw i ja naručio a nikako da stigne, jedno mjesec dana čekam
to jeste jedna od najbitnijih knjiga, definitivno, pa tu ima stvari što su i ovi digitalci Bejzos i Zakerberg ugradili u platforme
FOX sluđuje svoje gledaoce. Je li kovid opasan, ili nije?
https://youtu.be/wmoABTiCpco
Malopre stigao mejl, čisto da znate da neko odozgo sve ovo prati što kuckate:
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nije valjda da ću da pratim šta postirate?
dobro da su amerikanci, nije neka udba. bidena se, zlu ne trebalo, moze ignorirati, ali da je opet postalo kaznjivo misliti o stipi suvaru da je kreten...
Prilično informativan presek Trampove baze u vidu Zoom okupljanja
https://youtu.be/B8BLmC6QBWk
A evo čovek iz religijskog epicentra priča ono što sam i ja od ranije pričao. Neki hrišćani ne žele da se bore protiv klimatskih promena zbog priče o apokalipsi. I sad odbijaju vakcinu zbog sveopšte nauke.
https://www.salon.com/2021/08/28/evangelicals-science-and-the-vaccine-refusal-is-built-on-deep-seated-fear/
Australijanski ekonomski bloger predviđa inflaciju u Americi
https://youtu.be/1HmGLV46L60
Youtube mi sad preproučuje još videa o predviđanju inflacije u Americi. Evo ga jedan sa Vorenom Bafetom.
https://youtu.be/rtlTZL3Q5ts
Ako ste dobro proučili australijanski video, ima tu jedno objašnjenje. Pitanje je kako se zaštititi od inflacije? Pa tako što pozajmiš mnogo para, kupiš nešto, i onda čekaš inflaciju, koja će smanjiti vrednost novca koji treba da vratiš. Ali takav potez upravo izaziva inflaciju, jer odjednom se mnogo para nađe u opticaju. Dakle, što se više priča o inflaciji, veće su šanse da će infalcije i biti.
A evo ga nemački ekonomista na jutjubu koji opovrgava australijskog ekonomistu na jutjubu. Neće biti inflacije, spaseni smo!
https://youtu.be/UkClrikc1bk
Amerikanci se povuku iz Afganistana i...
...uvećaju vojni budžet:
Democrats Who Joined Republicans to Increase Military Budget Have Strong Defense Ties (https://theintercept.com/2021/09/03/democrats-defense-industry-military-budget/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=theintercept&utm_medium=social)
QuoteMany of the Democrats who voted for the $24 billion increase have close ties to the defense establishment. Their districts are home to job-promoting manufacturing sites and military bases, and much of the extra funding will go directly to projects at those locations. Many of the Democrats have also received generous campaign donations from contractors.
Neka vojska troši pare na infrastrukturu, umesto da ih baca na istraživanje novih oružja, i svi srećni.
tu pishe sve sto treba znati o u, s und a iz ugla istocne europe:
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Quote from: mac on 08-09-2021, 15:03:03
Neka vojska troši pare na infrastrukturu, umesto da ih baca na istraživanje novih oružja, i svi srećni.
To ti dođe maltene isto pošto je sva civilna tehnologija potekla od vojnih istraživanja...
Tv je prvobitno bio radar. Ajfon je Džobs ukro od vojske itd
Space research je ponajmanje služilo osvajanju svemira a ponajviše otkrivanju i usavršavanju novih tehnologija upotrebljenih na Zemlji.
Zato je SF propo.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/features/dave-chappelle-netflix-closer-trans-b1934860.html
kako opisaše Šapelov stendap čoek bi pomislio da je Šešelj a ne Šapel
Moglo je da ide i u onaj neoliberalni topik, ali dobro je i ovde.
Liberal Hypocrisy is Fueling American Inequality. Here's How. | NYT Opinion (https://youtu.be/hNDgcjVGHIw)
Jury finds Kyle Rittenhouse not guilty of all charges in high-profile murder trial (https://www.yahoo.com/news/jury-finds-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty-of-all-charges-in-high-profile-murder-trial-184350101.html)
Nije neko veliko iznenađenje da je Kajl na kraju nevin po svim tačkama optužnice, na kraju krajeva dečko je bio maloletan a plauzibilmno je da kaže da je pucao u samoodbrani (mada nikada nije trebalo da se zatekne tu gde se zatekao), no, jeste strašno da GOMILA medija piše da je "ubio tri crna muškarca" iako je ubio dva muškarca a jednog ranio i nisu baš bili crni...
Tu mu ba otac zivi
Sto nije trebao biti tu?
Jel ti trebas pobekad posjetiti grad gdje ti otac zivi?
Sta je vama :D
Mislim, maloletnik naoružan puškom, bez pratnje usred uličnog rata - to baš nije mesto na kome je trebalo da se zatekne i njegovi roditelji su idioti.
Puska nije prelazila granicu
Puska je bila tu
Nije stranac u gradu jer mu tu otac zivi
Sve su to lazi medija da podrze narativ koji su izvukli iz guzice
Da...tinejdzeru nije tu mjesto bilo
To stoji
Isto kao sto stoji da mediji ne trebaju prenositi lazi
A što je bila i poenta mog originalnog posta. O prelasku granice i Kajlovim vezama sa Kenošom nisam, primetićemo, ni pričao :lol: :lol: :lol:
LegalEagle ima šta da kaže o tome kako je sudija rukovodio suđenjem.
https://youtu.be/NxoYNpBMaCg
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FzQ5GwrT%2Fimage.jpg&hash=747cb8b1fe681ebc00019ff9fcb141b3a60986fe)
Amerika ne samo da je na ivici propasti nego i Afganistan hoće da povuče. Od par akoje su u SAD, Amerika će da uzme pola, a pola će jednom možda da daju Afganistanu, iako ljudi SAD imaju humanitarnu krizu:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/11/us-biden-to-split-frozen-afghan-funds-between-9-11-families (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/11/us-biden-to-split-frozen-afghan-funds-between-9-11-families)
Evo, ako se ikada odselite u Ameriku i postanete milijarder, da znate kako se izbegava plaćanje visokih poreza:
https://www.propublica.org/article/if-youre-getting-a-w-2-youre-a-sucker (https://www.propublica.org/article/if-youre-getting-a-w-2-youre-a-sucker)
Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473)
Ne baš iznenađujuć razvoj situacije.
Blessed be the fruit...
Talibani
Oni su takvi od prvih naseljenika sa Mejflauera. Nisu talibani, nego kvejkeri, jevanđelisti, i ostali protestanti. I katolici. I mormoni.
Pravo je pitanje u kojim sve državama postoje trenutno ograničenja i kakva.
Roe vs Wade se odnosi na komplet zemlju, uspostavljeno u vrijeme hipika i ovi sada dovode u pitanje 50 godina kasnije. Čak ni te pojedinačne države su samo mogle da ograničavaju, tipa 4 nedjelje za abortus ili još kraće, što je praktično zabrana, ali ovi sada hoće da ukinu tu ključnu odluku iz presude Roe vs Wade
doduše, ono što oni tu čine je da natjeraju poslanike da to uvedu u proceduru, i poslanici mogu izglasati i jače garancije abortusa, iako je Vrhovni sud ultrakonzerva postao
ali opet misim kakvim talibanskim pitanjima se oni bave, mormonima u Juti ni iz džepa ni u džep, ovo bi udarilo na najveće gradove, gdje se vjerovatno najviše i abortira
Pa ne, najveći gradovi su u plavim drža
vama, za njih nema zime.
Osim Teksasa...
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113, was a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that the Constitution of the United States protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose to have an abortion without excessive government restriction.
Ovo je cijela zemlja, federalni nivo, ne znam šta mogu plave države ako ti Vrhovni sud poništi Roe v. Wade. To je pad 50 godina unazad.
Naravno, ko će ga znati kako to rješavaju u anglosaksonskom pravu.
Ako je država plava onda ima plave zakone. Opoziv Roe vs Wade ne utiče na plave države, jer u plavim državama plavi glasači neće da menjaju postojeće plave zakone. Ali u crvenim državama postojeći plavi zakoni (koji su doneti pod prinudom vrhovnog suda) će sada moći da se promene u crvene zakone, jer nema više prinude vrhovnog suda.
Svaka država ima svoje zakone, i odlučuje o svojim zakonima, a postoji prinuda vrhovnog suda i kongresa da ti zakoni budu u skladu sa federalnim zakonima. Ali prinuda ne postoji u svim delovima zakona.
Tako je.
(https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/6206992da122effaa4dcafb5/20220210-Abortion-Roe-v-Wade-Forbes/960x0.jpg?fit=bounds&format=jpg&width=960)
nači ljubičaste su jedina sigurica od "plavih država"
za ostale ko zna šta će vremenom da se učini
Sad razmišljam, ako bi narod video da je vrag odneo šalu, kolika je šansa da bi i u bar nekim od ovih crvenih krenuli da odozdo guraju za neko popuštanje zabrane
Dejvid Kros (Arrested Development) objašnjava zašto Amerika ne valja ni u čemu. U jednom trenutku spominje i Srbiju.
David Cross: Why America Sucks at Everything (https://youtu.be/aNghg1Y-WIc)
Ovi sad pojurili da uvate šta mogu u gužvi:
(https://i.imgur.com/2VQmSOI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2PUKGPY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1iPkCOn.jpg)
ko zna šta se valja iza brda. Pogledo neki tekst, taj Mekonel priča istovremeno o alternativnim izvorima energije, Ukrajini, abortusu i koroni. Naravno, on je na strani naftaša, eksplicitno je protiv Rusije ali i to treba vidjeti šta je stav Republikanaca, sve uredbe o koroni će izgleda da padnu u nekom dilu koji će povezati sve te teme i ko zna koje još.
Ali jasno je da je sve to talibanizacija, prosto se sve kockice poklapaju ka tome.
Sva ova mračna priča oko ukidanja prava na abortus u SAD proizvodi i neke legitimno duhovite momente:
(https://i.imgur.com/4wgrUgi.jpg)
Ubijate s humorom danas, i ti i zosko. :lol:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220510/2cb2311cffba90c62556df5628f58fe1.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/M7CFjzT/280328345-10224915038174706-7138322415082626048-n.jpg)
Професоре само реци, летећемо као меци
www.standard.rs/2022/05/18/milo-lompar-evropa-se-ubrzano-amerikanizuje-tesko-da-moze-doci-do-bunta/
Pa baš da vidimo:
Senate OKs Landmark Gun Violence Bill, House Passage Is Next (https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-06-23/gun-bill-on-road-to-passage-as-senate-overcomes-gop-delays)
Ode Roe vs. Wade
Apropo
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v44/n12/deborah-friedell/a-piece-of-pizza-and-a-beer
Ode. Baš sam to hteo da prijavim. Oni actually nisu normalni i potpuno razumem ljude koji hoće da se sele odande. Ako su uspeli da ovo uklone ovako lako onda čemu da se nadaju neke ozbiljne manjine...
Talibani
Dark days
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 24-06-2022, 18:30:55
Ako su uspeli da ovo uklone ovako lako onda čemu da se nadaju neke ozbiljne manjine...
Ne razumem ovaj komentar...
znači da su žene to same izglasale, duh
(https://i.ibb.co/3hg5j13/FB-IMG-1656089448512.jpg)
Manje seksa bez zastite
A vise radnih sati da mozes platiti kartu za avinjon ako ipak horde prodju neplodne dane kondome vruce tusiranje pilule spermicide dan poslije tablete
Kme kme
U nekim državama planiraju da kazne one žene koje odu u drugu državu da abortiraju.
Ko ima vremena za seks u plodne dane
Ima vremena prouciti sve metode sprecavanja trudnoce
Takodjer suplja o sirotinji ne pije vode
Jer amerika je zemlja mogucnosti
Ko radi ko crnac ima priliku napredovati i ne biti siromasan da nemas za kartu
tamo ima bar 50 Vučića
Quote from: Black swan on 24-06-2022, 20:32:50
Manje seksa bez zastite
Brkaš seks i vođenje ljubavi!
Quote from: Dybuk on 24-06-2022, 19:06:41
Dark days
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 24-06-2022, 18:30:55
Ako su uspeli da ovo uklone ovako lako onda čemu da se nadaju neke ozbiljne manjine...
Ne razumem ovaj komentar...
Pa u smislu da žene nisu manjina, tehnički, ali imaju takav tretman. U teoriji žene, kao polovina stanovništva, bi trebalo da su u stanju da spreče ovakve bezumnosti, a pošto očigledno na to ne može da se računa, onda koliko tek ima da najebu neke druge grupe koje nisu ni blizu 50% u populaciji.
Quote from: Black swan on 24-06-2022, 21:33:20
Ko ima vremena za seks u plodne dane
Ima vremena prouciti sve metode sprecavanja trudnoce
Ali jasno je valjda da oni koji idu na ukidanje zakonskih rešenja što omogućavaju prekid trudnoće jednako rade na tome da ukinu i pristup sredstvima za planiranje porodice.
smanjit karanje
pojačat produktivnost
4godišnji plan je u zaostatku
Quote from: ridiculus on 24-06-2022, 22:11:02
Quote from: Black swan on 24-06-2022, 20:32:50
Manje seksa bez zastite
Brkaš seks i vođenje ljubavi!
ne kupiš hambaš i cigare sutra
i uzmeš za dan poslije (koje imaš od jučer jer nisi jeo hambaš i fumare)
Ajde Trubo ne lupetaj
Meho, pa tehnički u Vrhovnom sudu sede 3 žene i 6 muškaraca, od kojih su 2 glasale da Roe v Wade ostane, i ona jedna koju je Tramp postavio 2020 a koja je religious nut ili šta već. To nije ženska većina.
Samo mi deluje neobično ali i nekako tipično da, kad god se pomenu narušena ženska prava postavi pitanje: but what about men?
Žene su na izborima glasale za precednike koji su postavili sve te sudije u Vrhovni sud. Žene takođe glasaju u 26 američkih država koji će ukinuti pravo na abortus maltene sutra. Kako su žene izglasale tako mogu i da odglasaju. Ako građani nešto neće mogu to riješiti koliko u novembru.
No mislim da nije ni fora u tome već da Amerika mora da parira milijardi Kineza kroz radnu snagu i to može samo ako uzme rađanje pod kontrolu. Druga opcija je migranti, što je manje popularno, mada vidimo da će Ukrajinci popuniti taj problem u Evropi za neko vrijeme, možda i Ameri uvezu iz Azije i Južne Amerike, ali pritom hoće i sopstvenu populaciju da uvećaju.
Nije baš da je jedino objašnjenje zilotsko i fundamentalističko, samo su ekstremisti iskorišteni za agendu koja je čisto ekonomska.
No keks no kvarjes
No seks no problem sa roe i vade
Ona koju je trump postavio ima 7 djece
1 bolesno i usvojeno cini mi se
Justice beret bila je hit kad je imala
0 biljeski pri onom saslusanju
Sve zapamtila
Za sve ovo demokratama je kriva ona crnkinja sudinica koja je mislila da ce nadzivjeti trumpov mandat
Trebala se eutanazirat imala je 100 godina pa bi obama stavio nekog svog
Ubuduce tako...eutanazija starih sudaca
Dok je demokrata prezident
Quote from: Dybuk on 24-06-2022, 23:10:38
Meho, pa tehnički u Vrhovnom sudu sede 3 žene i 6 muškaraca, od kojih su 2 glasale da Roe v Wade ostane, i ona jedna koju je Tramp postavio 2020 a koja je religious nut ili šta već. To nije ženska većina.
Samo mi deluje neobično ali i nekako tipično da, kad god se pomenu narušena ženska prava postavi pitanje: but what about men?
Fer, fer, svakako, ja u glavi teoretišem o daljem urušavanju onog što smatram fundamentalnim ljudskim pravima u SAD a ne bavim se konkretnim događajem.
Brine me, naravno i kakvog će ovo efekta imati kod nas i u ostatku sveta.
Women are now banned in the United States.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 25-06-2022, 06:26:06
Brine me, naravno i kakvog će ovo efekta imati kod nas i u ostatku sveta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TFSi7l6BQA
Bill Maher raspravlja o posledicama odluke vrhovnog suda. Slažem se sa poslednjim zaključkom. Ako građani po celoj Americi zaista žele da imaju dostupan abortus, kao što sugerišu ankete na koje se liberali redovno pozivaju, onda je ovo prilika da se promeni politička mapa Amerike.
https://youtu.be/RMgGwFX2KEs
Nisu zene trudne nego osobe i ljudi
Kakva je to diskriminacija prema muskarcima koji su trudni
Roe v Wade: Doctors and pharmacists have started refusing US women pain-reducing drugs over abortion fears
I lekove protiv autoimunih bolesti. Ne trudnim ženama, svim ženama u reproduktivnom periodu. Tell me again which group is most marginalized.
https://inews.co.uk/news/roe-v-wade-doctors-pharmacists-refusing-us-women-pain-reducing-drugs-abortion-methotrexate-1724652
G I L E A D
Former Republicans and Democrats form new third U.S. political party (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-former-republicans-democrats-form-new-third-us-political-party-2022-07-27/)
NAPRAVIMO OPET SAGITU VELIKOM
Fauci to step down as nation's infectious disease chief (https://www.yahoo.com/news/dr-anthony-fauci-stepping-down-niaid-director-biden-medical-adviser-154357899.html)
Marijuana use is outpacing cigarette use for the first time on record (https://www.npr.org/2022/08/30/1120024399/marijuana-cigarette-use-gallup-poll)
https://youtu.be/6DSthHfq_9o (https://youtu.be/6DSthHfq_9o)
Kakva je ovo, bre, zbrka?
Neizvjesna utrka za američki Senat; drugi krug izbora u Georgiji (https://narod.hr/svijet/neizvjesna-utrka-za-americki-senat-drugi-krug-izbora-u-georgiji)
citam ovo o tim izborima, pa se ne mogu ne upitati kako odaziv na glasanje ne vrijedja normalne ljude.
jest' da su izbori nesto nuzno i dobro, ali ne u obliku kako se namece. kazem iz iskustva; jednom sam u zivotu izasao na izbore: i bio neki red, pa tako stojim i gledam, reko, pa ovo je duboko ponizavajuce. pa tu realno stoje sami idioti.
pravo glasa tako ne vrijedi nista. znaci moj glas se "takmici" sa glasovima hrpe idiota? dovidjenja.
pravo glasa samo za muskarce i zene poslije 10 godina braka i minimum dvoje djece, najranije od 30. godine zivota. za samce: muskarci poslije 50., zene poslije 45.
a djeca u pankere dok ne odrastu, kakva politika, kakvi izbori.
ekspresno bi se politicka "elita" procistila od majmuna koji aktualno haraju, a koji realno ni u zbroju nisu dorasli ni dvama plemenskih kozojeba iz kakve arapske pustinje. ovako na jedan solidan glas dolazi stotinjak idiota i tupave mladezi, pa ti "biraj". glupost, to je duboko uvredljivo. biden, tramp, cijela ergla vrhunskih kandidata za prvu ludnicu, najociglednije. tko sa dva grama mozga moze i pomisliti tako nesto "birati", o cemu mi pricamo? to nisu izbori, to je sprdacina, neka oligarhija se samo dobro zajebava, sve uz oklade koji ce privuci vise idiota.
Znači ona grupa koja se više "multiplicira" da ima više glasova, uključujući i one koji ne veruju u abortus? A oni koji su u svojoj karijeri unapredili tehnologiju, pa time i ekonomiju, da imaju manje? Dobra ti je ta matematika.
mladi do 30 godina života najmanje i glasaju, nego pošasti njemačkog obrazovnog sistema su već na nivou američke retardiranosti
@mac: pusti gluposti, tu se elementarno radi o zrelosti pojedinca i odgovornosti. nista "grupa", nema grupa. samo zreli i idioti. ne mozes od prosjecnog covjeka ocekivati da je svjestan posljedica svog glasa kad nije dozreo, ni ne sluti o cemu se radi. pa to je kao da indijancu prodajes sarene perlice.
uzmi jednog dvadesetgodisnjaka: on realno mora biti vrhunski fenomen da u toj dobi razvije svijest da bi mogao suvislo birati. ili samca koji koji zivotni put odabrao, recimo, sebicno. nista, prvo sazrijevanje, pa pravo glasa. prvo sudar sa realnim problemima, obavezama, individualno, pa da vidimo sta ce ostati od idealizacije tamo nekih budalastina nevrijednih spomena, a koje danas odlucuju.
Ja sam pre za to da ljudi ne glasaju direktno, nego za elektore. Elektori moraju da završe nekakvu političku školu, i dobiju sertifikat, da bi se time bavili. Elektor nema jedan glas, nego ima onoliko glasova koliko je građana njemu ukazalo poverenje. I dobija za to državnu platu. Znači ako si odabrao da se time baviš, potrošio vreme na edukaciju, onda bar vrediš nešto. Amerikanci imaju nešto slično, ali tamo se to nekako ispovrtelo, i elektori, iako postoje, ne mogu da glasaju kako hoće. Ako su obećali da će da glasaju za nekoga onda ne mogu kasnije da glasaju za nekog drugog, čak i ako je prvi kandidat postao pokvarena roba. U tom smislu pokvaren im je sistem. A i ne moraju da završe nikakve škole, nego je dovoljno samo da se prijave za to. U mom sistemu sve što običan glasač treba da zna je koji elektor mu je najbliži po stavovima do kojih im je stalo. Trebalo bi da ima veliki izbor, što može čak biti i problem, ali nije nerešiv.
E sad, za kongres je potrebno mnogo glasova, mnogo više nego što ima jedan elektor. Elektori skupe recimo 3000 glasova, a za kongres ti treba 300000. Zato oni između sebe moraju da odaberu nekog, ili čak i da nađu nekog ko nije elektor, ali to traženje predstavnika naroda je bar u rukama ljudi koji znaju šta traže, i kako da traže, i razumeju da je politika veština kompromisa. Mislim, mogli bismo da zamislimo i sistem u kome su svi elektori direktni učesnici u zakonodavnoj vlasti, ali to bi dovelo do velikog haosa, koji se može ublažiti tehnologijom, ali bi i dalje bio haos.
Ali ne bih imao ništa ni protiv tvoje ideje. Možemo da počnemo od polazišta da svako od rođenja ima pravo glasa, ali da za maloletna lica glasa njihov staratelj. Roditelji bi time dobili veći uticaj. Ali onda i svako ko plaća veliki porez više daje državi od onog ko plaća mali porez, pa bi trebalo da ima dodatni politički uticaj po tom osnovu. I oni koji rizikuju svoje živote za dobrobit države (vojska, policija, vatrogasci radnici) takođe treba da imaju veći politički uticaj. Možda i zdravstveni i prosvetni radnici, mada ne znam kako bih njih opravdao.
ne, ne, sve je to previse komplicirano, znaci podlozno manipulacijama i lutanjima, ne vodi nikud. dok su stvari vrlo jednostavne: mora se samo razluciti izmedju zrelih i nezrelih koje od milja zovem idioti. i navedeni kriteriji su vrlo solidni za tu selekciju.
evo primjer samca, recimo da si ti u kakvoj hipotezi samac: sta ce ti pravo glasa kad si odlucio odbaciti 90% obaveza koje inace zivot nosi? nisi u stanju steci nuzno iskustvo, ne zanimaju te (u praksi) realne stvari koje bi politika morala rjesavati, bavis se "filozofijom". zivi i uzivaj, to je tvoje pravo, a kad ostaris i sretnes neke sitnice na koje nisi pomisljao, tad mozes i birati. znaci sa 50. ne prije, dok "zuris u daljinu". jer, poslije tebe, ako ti dam pravo glasa dok lutas i ti glasas u skladu tvojih "briga", ostaje pustinja sa kojom se poslije mora nositi netko drugi, dok ti odes svirati harfu.
druga solidna varijanta bila bi da se mogucnost izbora potpuno ukida i uvodi sustav kako funkcionira koncern, sve pozicije popunjavaju preko natjecaja.
Puko razmnožavanje ne može biti osnov civilizacije. Nije dovoljno samo živeti.
Ja ne znam na kojoj planeti vi živite. Žene koje su napravile potomstvo su danas protiv tog potomstva. I zagovaraju samačko bitisanje kao jedini mogući vid bitisanja. Odbacuje se porodica zarad debilne karijere, koja je najviši cilj u životu i jedini njegov smisao.
Muškarac može napraviti neželjeno dete nekoj ženi, ili željeno, pa žena na kraju odustane od tog što je želela, pa muškarac plaćati posle alimentacija, i naslednici ti na kraju otmu sve u starosti i to se danas zagovara kao poželjan model za budućnost.
https://www.rudan.info/ja-volim-samo-sebe/
QuoteJA VOLIM SAMO SEBE
Neki su stari ljudi u mojim godinama teško bolesni, prepušteni na milost i nemilost svojoj djeci. Mnogi su jako siromašni jer su sve dali djeci.
Ja sam stara. Nisam siromašna. Znate što sam danas odlučila? Neću kupovati ljubav svojih potomaka. Što sam dala, dala sam. Odjebite, nezahvalne, hladne, proračunate krvopije. Krećem u novi život.
Mislite da se šalim? Mislite što hoćete. Znam da govorim i o vama. Vi, moji vršnjaci, sjedite okovani sivim zidovima i uzalud čekate da vas djeca nazovu. Jasno mi je, ni vi ni ja ih nismo stvorili da bismo jednom u dalekoj budućnosti živjeli od njihovih poziva. Zašto ih imamo danas nikome od nas nije jasno, ali ovako nešto nismo očekivali.
Bešćutnost. Zloba. Prijetnja: "vidjet ćeš tko će ti nositi kekse u starački dom kad onemoćaš". Jebite se, djeco draga! Jebite se, unučići mili! Nitko od vas mi u starački dom ništa neće nositi. Platit ću nosače lovom koju vam dosad nisam udijelila. Prodat ću kuću koju vi mislite prodati nakon moje smrti. Tvoj je novac onaj koji potrošiš za života. Jebite se, trgovci mojim zidovima.
Dijelila sam. Previše. Ne, biti roditelj ne uključuje ostajati gole guzice za ljubav pedesetogodišnjega nečega koje stalno kuka kako živi u strašnom vremenu. Jesam li ja kriva za vrijeme u kome živite? Promijenite ga. Udavite šefa, izborite se za plaću veću od 500 eura, zapalite banke koje vas deru, ne serite protiv hrvatskih tajkuna i političara preko društvenih mreža. UČINITE NEŠTO!
Stalno ste mi ponavljali, vi stari ste krivi za ovo. Je li? Mi stari smo vam uništili živote brinući o vama, radeći tri posla paralelno, govorim o sebi? Ja sam plaćala instrukcije, privatne zubare, potplaćivala profesore, oblačila vas, kupila vam krovove nad glavom, oblačila vašu djecu i stalno slušala kako sam ja kriva što vas davi "ovaj odvratni kapitalizam".
Jebite se, dječice. Svijet se mijenja na gore iz dana u dan. Promijenite tijek povijesti. Ne jebući mene, sistem ubodite kurcem u oko. Vi to radite. Kako? Tajkunu plešete na njegovoj plaži koju je bespravno oteo i meni i vama. Kad otplešete svoj besmisleni ples uz vrištanje, fotkanje i nošenje parola, otići ćete u svoje gajbe koje vam ili plaćaju starci ili su vam ih kupili. Tajkunu će ostati i dveri i plaže.
To je vaš rat? Rat nikad nije bio cerekanje i fotkanje. Vidite Ukrajinu. Samo... Vi ne želite poginuti u ratu, ne želite izgubiti bijedan posao, vi želite srati kako vam je teško i kako bismo vam mi, krivci za sve ovo danas, morali platiti odštetu za duševne boli. Mi bismo vama morali platiti da nas umlatite. Ah, mene više nitko neće jebati! Bar ne nitko moj.
Koji je bio povod za ovaj tekst? Moj unuk Krešo nije više beba, ide u peti razred i zove samo kad mu nešto treba. Ne odgovara na moje pozive, ni na poruke. A vidim da je na Viberu. A onda... Kad mu treba dvjesto kuna... Zove tri puta dnevno, uvijek me zabrinuto pita: "Kako si?" Kako sam? Od danas fenomenalno.
Da. Moram biti iskrena do kraja. Imam troje djece. Jedno mi je jučer bez povoda poklonilo teglu maslaca od kikirikija, moje omiljeno jelo. Nije sve tako crno?
S Krešinim sam ocem pogriješila pred četrdesetak godina. Sve sam mu dala, nikad nije bilo dosta. Osjećala sam se krivom. Ja sam ga odgojila, dobila sam što sam zaslužila. Nije istina. Naša djeca prema nama nisu zla zato jer nam se osvećuju za "zlo" koje smo im učinili. Naša su djeca zla jer su ljudska bića. Ona u nama vide lešinu, nešto iz čega se više ništa ne može izvući. Neki od nas će, misle oni, u strahu od smrti dati zadnji cent, privikavam se na eure, za osmijeh čudovišta stvorenog od našeg mesa.
Bez mene, gospodo u najboljim godinama. Bez mene, plodu utrobe moje. Krešo će me nazvati za koji dan. Od drugih sam čula da je prošao s odličnim. Danas 79% glupih Hrvatića i Hrvatičica prolazi s odličnim. Upitat će me: "Kako si, nona?"
U svom će malom uhu čuti: "Ja volim samo sebe, jedino sebe..."
Quote from: mac on 10-11-2022, 01:24:51
Ja sam pre za to da ljudi ne glasaju direktno
stare neoliberalne antidemokratske priče
te neko premlad, te neko preglup, te neko šupak, te neko srbin
ajmo cenzuse svuda uvoditi, samo indirektne izbore, mogli bi i cenzurisati, na kraju što ne voditi čitavu planetu kao koncern
Deutschland unter alles!
Pa jest, najbolje bi bilo edukovati ljude, ali odluka o tome pada na političarima, koji ne žele edukovane glasače da bi lakše njima manipulisali. Neoliberalizam.
tvoja greška je što misliš da sada postoji neka demokratija pa ona koči stvari
a zapravo ne postoji, bar ne ona demokratija koja nešto stvarno odlučuje, postoje već ograničenja, previše koncerna, previše poseravanja po narodnoj volji, i to upravo najnepismenijeg naroda, a u cilju nečijih posebnih interesa i ciljeva
dajte više tu državu u kojoj najneobrazovniji sve odlučuju, dajte da je vidimo kakva bi bila. Pocrkasmo od raznih "stručnjaka" i njihovog rukovođenja.
Problem je što i kad edukuješ ljude, onda dobiješ suprotno, da edukovini ljudi jednostrano menjaju sistem u pravcu koji im se čini da je dobar, a zapravo potpuno nema nikakvog smisla.
Eto, primer ti je baš globalno zagrevanje. Zapadne zemlje sprovode mere, ukidaju tešku i prljavu industriju, ali nastavljaju da uvoze resurse i industrijske proizvode. Sa istoka. Da li je to poboljšanje? Pa, ne baš. Bukvalno izmeštanje ništa ne znači za planetu, da li će zagađenje doći s jednog mesta ili drugog, ako je količina potpuno ista i zavisi od potreba stanovništva, tj. tržišta. Problem je samo gurnut iz vidokruga edukovane populacije.
I za sve ostale teme je isto, ekologija, prava žena, zlostavljanje životinja, šta god. Sve se to i dalje radi, na drugom mestu.
Aj ti bajo stopiraj uvoz iz Kine, pa ću poverovati da si zaista uplašen za globalno zagrevanje, ovako je teška farsa.
Quote from: Labudan on 10-11-2022, 10:49:10
tvoja greška je što misliš da sada postoji neka demokratija pa ona koči stvari
Dokle god su ljudi nesavršeni biće nesavršen i sistem koji su ti ljudi izgradili. A savršenim ljudima nikakav sistem ni ne treba. Kako god sistem da mi osmislimo postojaće ljudi koji će pokušati da taj sistem izigraju i prilagode ga svojim potrebama, nauštrb potreba drugih. Evo, ljudi glasali za Trampa, a onda Tramp urniše sistem za svoje potrebe. Zbog Trampa bespotrebno velik broj ljudi izgine od kovida. Zbog Trampa se ne ukidaju rudnici uglja, koji zagađuju i oboljavaju ubedljivo najveći broj ljudi. Zbog Trampa se resursi troše na gluposti ("zid") umesto na ono što ljudima stvarno treba. Tramp laže da su imigranti problem, i laže da će zid rešiti taj problem. Lakoverni mu veruju i glasaju za njega. I to je neki vid prirodne selekcije, i ja to čak i poštujem na nekom nivou. Budalaste nacije i treba da se prorede same od sebe. Ali ako bismo napravili sistem u kome ne bi carevao budalizam onda bi bilo i manje budala.
kakve to veze ima sa nepismenima?
u nekoj Holandiji svaki učesnik izbora dobije nešto para za kampanju. Čak i u Srbiji dobiju tu i tamo. U Americi se partije direkt finansiraju od bogatih i postave bogate za kandidate. Ne dozvoljavaju ni da uđe treća partija u priču.
Ništa živo neki nepismeni ljudi nisu birali nego ono na kraju, jel Bajden ili Tramp. I kad izaberu Trampa, neko dođe i kaže to je zato što su nepismeni nesavršena bića. Ne da je sve namješteno od početka.
Quote from: džin tonik on 10-11-2022, 01:42:20dok su stvari vrlo jednostavne: mora se samo razluciti izmedju zrelih i nezrelih koje od milja zovem idioti.
Ali tu i nastaje problem: "idiotizam" nema veze sa obrazovanjem, kako naivno misli mac, i kao što je mislio Viktor Igo pre 150 i više godina. Evo, svi forumaši ovde su relativno obrazovani, pa ipak ne mogu da se slože ni u čemu.
Ima Česterton jednu čuvenu misao, kada je opisivao političke struje u Britaniji početkom XX veka, liberalnu i konzervativnu. Ovi prvi, kaže on, se odlikuju time da insistiraju na novim greškama, a ovi drugi time da sprečavaju ispravljanje starih.
Predsednik nije toliko bitan koliko ljudi misle. Kongres i senat su jači od predsednika. Predsednik se pita samo kad treba da se pokrene neka vojna intervencija. Ali čak i za pravi rat mu treba odobrenje od kongresa. Može i da preraspoređuje nešto para koje ima na raspolaganju, i to je to. Za sve ostalo predsednik mora da ubeđuje kongresmene i guvernere da mu urade posao.
Quote from: ridiculus on 10-11-2022, 12:12:07
Evo, svi forumaši ovde su relativno obrazovani, pa ipak ne mogu da se slože ni u čemu.
Ima Česterton jednu čuvenu misao, kada je opisivao političke struje u Britaniji početkom XX veka, liberalnu i konzervativnu. Ovi prvi, kaže on, se odlikuju time da insistiraju na novim greškama, a ovi drugi time da sprečavaju ispravljanje starih.
Ljudi ne mogu da se slože ni u čemu ne zato što postoje dve opcije i dve struje već što se redovno formira i treća.
Koja je za prokrastinaciju, tj. odlaganje odluke dok se prve dve grupe ne slože. Ranije smo ih na Sagiti zvali "tiha većina". U suštini, to su neodlučni koji održavaju status quo stanje između starog i novog.
Jedan zakon bi mogao da malo unormalizuje stvari u politici. Znate kako se za vrhovni sud biraju sudije sa nižeg nivoa sudstva. Sudija mora da ima iskustva u tim sudskim poslovima. Pa i predsednik mora da ima iskustva i tim rukovodećim poslovima. Predsednika zato treba birati iz skupa guvernera i gradonačelnika. Senatore i kongresmene treba birati iz skupa predstavnika građana na nivou države ili grada. To bi malo usporilo ludake, jer moraju da urade bar nešto korisno pre nego što im ljudi daju šansu za odgovornije mesto.
Quote from: mac on 10-11-2022, 12:12:24
Predsednik nije toliko bitan koliko ljudi misle. Kongres i senat su jači od predsednika. Predsednik se pita samo kad treba da se pokrene neka vojna intervencija. Ali čak i za pravi rat mu treba odobrenje od kongresa. Može i da preraspoređuje nešto para koje ima na raspolaganju, i to je to. Za sve ostalo predsednik mora da ubeđuje kongresmene i guvernere da mu urade posao.
šta to mijenja u čitavoj priči? I kongresmene finansiraju bogati svojim donatorskim večerama, i senatori su korumpirani, nije nijedan siromašniji izašao iz politike.
princip je isti na svakom nivou - demos ne vlada, i samim tim problemi koji su nastali nisu nastali zbog demosa
Pa pazi, bogati finansiraju, ali te pare mogu da se potroše samo na kampanju. Neke pare možeš da smuvaš, i prisvojiš, a podvedeš pod kampanjski trošak, ali kao što je Tramp na svojoj debeloj koži utvrdio to nije baš tako jednostavno. Ako se te pare troše samo na kampanju onda siromašni i dalje imaju priliku da glasaju za nekog drugog. Ako glasaju za onoga ko im ne radi posao onda teško možemo bogataše i korupciju za to da krivimo, zar ne?
Moj predlog je samo da se uspore ludaci, ništa više. Ti sam tvrdiš da korupcija nije bitna kad pričamo o politici u Srbiji, ali ti je sad postala bitna u Americi. U čemu je fora?
Kad sam rekao da korupcija nije bitna u Srbiji? Možda da je besmisleno napadati nekog jadnika što ja maznuo poso, sigurno ne ako je neko zgrnuo milione na lažnim tenderima i slično. Niti ovo čega ima i u Americi i u Srbiji, da bogati finansiraju političare i time utiču na zakonodavstvo i Vladine uredbe.
To je u Srbiji sasvim jasno, Brnabićka je došla iz Naleda, i taj Naled pretežno propisuje šta država treba da odluči. Naled, a ne narod.
U Americi ljudi ne mogu ni da čuju da postoji alternativa. Imaš socijalističku partiju sa milion članova, jesu se ikad pojavili na nacionalnim TV mrežama? Jer i to je privatni koncern i ubacuje samo svoje ljude.
Nije to pitanje onog tipa da nekom ispereš mozak i nametneš mu neko mišljenje. Dovoljno je da nametneš teme o kojima će da misli. Građanin može genijalno da misli o temama koje nije izabrao. Jer komercijalna televizija neće da pokrene temu koja ne odgovara bogatima. Pa bogati je plaćaju. Bogati plaćaju reklame, izborne kampanje, bogati su glavni izvor informacija, pazi da će neki novinar u prilogu o Tesli da ne zove Maska nego njegovog kritičara, a Mask plaća novinara.
Čitav sistem funkcioniše da što više zaobiđe bilo kakvu odluku građana, sem aklamatorne, a to je postojalo i u Rimskom carstvu, koje definitivno nije bila demokratija.
Aklamacija nije demokratija, demokratija je participacija. Ne participiraš - nema demokratije u pravom smislu riječi.
Ja ti autoritativno i odgovorno tvrdim da je u Americi gerimandering veći problem od bogataša. Novac te ne može sprečiti da glasaš za koga hoćeš, ali gerimandering može učiniti tvoj glas manje vrednim od nekog drugog iz drugog glasačkog okruga. Gerimandering od čoveka napravi pola čoveka. Kad bi se sprečio gerimandering politička slika bi bila bitno drugačija.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/road-not-taken-gerrymandering
Evo na primeru Džordžije. U 2020. Džordžija je imala 14 mesta u kongresu. Na ovom linku (https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/GA/115465/web.307039/#/summary) možemo da vidimo rezultate. Republikanci dobili 9, a demokrate 5 mesta. Međutim kad sabereš sve glasove ispada da je 2041885 glasača glasalo za republikanskog kandidata, a 1859952 glasača za demokratskog. Da su izbori pravedni onda bi to ispalo 7.3 mesta za R i 6.7 mesta za D. Praktično 7-7, a ne 9-5 kao što je nakraju bilo. Gerimandering braćo, a ne zvona i bogataši.
A na stranu to što gerimandering posredno promoviše ekstremizam. U normalnim okolnostima i pravednim izborima prednost bi imali umereni kandidati.
jopet, ko je sređivao izborne jedinice, da nije marko marković?
stvarno ne znam šta je nejasno, rekoh da ljudi, the people, građani, narod, kako god hoćeš da zoveš, se uopšte ne pita
zato što neka kvazielita sama definiše šta je narod, šta je izborna jedinica, ko se bira, kako se bira, a onda čak i ako nešto drugačije izaberu predstavnici opet odluče šta oni hoće
Newly released JFK documents point to what the CIA was hiding (https://www.yahoo.com/news/newly-released-jfk-documents-point-to-what-the-cia-was-hiding-002728388.html)
Joe Biden's global vision is too timid and pessimistic
The president underestimates America's strengths and misunderstands how it acquired them
May 18th 2023
In the 1940s and early 1950s America built a new world order out of the chaos of war. For all its shortcomings, it kept the peace between superpowers and underpinned decades of growth that lifted billions out of poverty. Today that order, based on global rules, free markets and an American promise to uphold both, is fraying. Toxic partisanship at home has corroded confidence in America's government. The financial crisis of 2007-09 dented faith in markets. America's failures in Iraq and Afghanistan undermined its claim to spread democracy. Today most countries refuse to heed its call to enforce sanctions on Russia. And China's rise has spurred American politicians to take a more selfish, zero-sum approach to geopolitics.
China's rise has also increased the threat of war. In a conversation with The Economist, Henry Kissinger (https://www.economist.com/briefing/2023/05/17/henry-kissinger-explains-how-to-avoid-world-war-three), who will be 100 this month, warns that China and America are "on the path" to confrontation. "Both sides have convinced themselves that the other represents a strategic danger," he says. The stakes could not be higher: both are nuclear-armed. Both are also dabbling with unpredictable artificial intelligence (ai). The elder statesmen's eldest statesman worries that, just as before the first world war, the superpowers will stumble into catastrophe.
Since arriving in the Oval Office in 2021, Joe Biden has developed a new strategy to preserve American pre-eminence and reduce the risk of conflict. Jake Sullivan, the latest of Mr Kissinger's successors as national security adviser, recently gave the fullest account yet of this Biden doctrine. His narrative weaves together middle-class prosperity, defence and climate change. He repudiates the free-market "Washington consensus" and calls for the government to play a muscular role in society, with a strong emphasis on national security.This means hyperactive industrial policy. Big subsidies will catalyse private investment in semiconductors and clean energy. Export controls will create "a small yard and high fence" to keep selected technology with potential military uses out of unfriendly hands. At the same time, the administration is softening its rhetoric. Instead of "decoupling" from China's economy, it talks of "de-risking (https://www.economist.com/united-states/2023/05/16/the-fault-lines-in-americas-china-policy)". It wants to find common ground on climate change, African debt and even Ukraine. On May 10th and 11th Mr Sullivan spent eight hours with his Chinese counterpart, the first high-level contact for months.
Behind the doctrine is a belief that a virtuous circle can make America and the world safer. State intervention and protectionism will boost industry, helping the middle class and cooling America's populist fevers. Less erratic leadership (after Donald Trump's) will restore America's authority abroad, even if the Biden team breaks a few global economic rules. The relationship with China will be managed with "strategic maturity". As a precaution America will keep spending large sums on its military forces to deter China from aggression. Will the new doctrine work? After the chaos of the Trump years, Mr Biden's commitment to diplomacy is welcome. It will be on display at the G7 summit this week. He is right that American foreign policy must deal with new challenges, from Chinese coercion to climate change. However, especially when compared with the post-1945 order, the Biden doctrine is flawed. Its diagnosis of America's problems is too pessimistic, and some of its prescriptions would make America weaker.
Start with the economy. Despite what many believe, America's economic power is not declining. With 4% of the world's people, it generates 25% of global output, a share unchanged since 1980. No other big country is as prosperous or innovative. As we noted last week, the size of China's economy is unlikely ever to surpass America's by much. The main source of America's strength is creative destruction and open markets in a rules-based global economy. So although Mr Biden is right to reinforce the social safety-net, his state-led, insular economic vision may ultimately erode living standards and American clout. The Biden doctrine seeks to stabilise relations with an autocratic and paranoid China. In this task it is hampered by a second flaw: it muddles legitimate policies with America-first rule-bending. Mr Sullivan wants to combine export controls with co-operative trade, and an arms race with collaboration. But China's leaders think this strategy is meant to keep China down. America's case would be stronger if export controls didn't keep expanding, if Trump-era tariffs were not still in place and if its politicians were not vying to outhawk each other on China. The lack of agreement on trade makes everything harder. Never mind rules on ai, America and China have no system for nuclear-arms control: China's arsenal will almost quadruple by 2035.
The final flaw concerns allies. Mr Biden has backed Ukraine and revived nato and alliances in Asia. Yet America's unpredictable economic nationalism and unwillingness to offer access to its markets undermines its influence. Europe fears a subsidy race and worries escalating tensions with China (https://www.economist.com/international/2023/05/15/europe-cant-decide-how-to-unplug-from-china) will cause it severe damage: our calculations show Germany's economy is twice as exposed to China as America's is. The decay of global rules is accelerating the embrace of a transactional approach to foreign policy by emerging economies. The post-1945 order rested on American constancy: each administration was guided by predictable interests. Today allies and enemies know chaos may follow the election in 2024. Trumpian dysfunction is not Mr Biden's fault, but it makes it vital to be predictable and open now.Free, open and predictableAmericans need to be persuaded that a more optimistic, positive-sum approach is in their interests. This is the key that will keep their country strong and unlock a better foreign policy, by allowing it to help forge new global rules on trade, climate, ai and more that old allies and new ones can rely on. Such a revived global order would be the best defence against an autocratic one led by China. Unfortunately the Biden doctrine fails to rebut the narrative of American decline and so has not resolved the tension between the country's toxic politics and its role as the linchpin of a liberal order. Unless America looks out at the world with self-confidence, it will struggle to lead it.■
This article appeared in the Leaders section of the print edition under the headline "America's plan for the 21st century"
(Ovo je jelte iz The Economista, prim. Jape :lol: )
Unabomber Ted Kaczynski found dead in US prison cell (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65867291)
How to avoid a civil war, by the man who predicted Trump (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jun/10/how-to-avoid-a-civil-war-by-the-man-who-predicted-trump?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user%2FTheGuardian)
Peter Turchin je "the man".
Apropo Turchina:
https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/08/12/book-review-secular-cycles/
Pošto naši lokalni delioci linkova i valjani tragaoci za informacijama zabušavaju :? i ne donose nam sledeće vesti, moraće neko drugi, na primer moja nonpersona:
https://apnews.com/df292b274ab44d73a0d6d914cd732e82 (https://apnews.com/df292b274ab44d73a0d6d914cd732e82)
Ukratko, i na grubom srpskom, američki Vrhovni sud je proglasio nezakonitom rasnu selekciju pri upisu na univerzitete.
Mada ostavljena je rupica:
Chief Justice John Roberts carved out what could be interpreted as a small loophole in his decision: "Nothing in this opinion should be construed as prohibiting universities from considering an applicant's discussion of how race affected his or her life, be it through discrimination, inspiration, or otherwise," Roberts wrote at the end of his opinion.
Imao je SCOTUS i druge zanimljive presude ovih dana, kao na primer da poslastičar ne mora da napravi svadbenu tortu za gej par ako ne želi:
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/supreme-courts-gay-wedding-website-ruling-means-lgbtq-rights-rcna92022 (https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/supreme-courts-gay-wedding-website-ruling-means-lgbtq-rights-rcna92022)
Posle se tvrdilo da gej par iz tužbe actually i ne postoji ali nije bitno. Presuda je važna zbog principa. I, mislim, čini se legalizuje diskriminaciju koja je zakonom zabranjena tako da, ovo su rezultati Trampovog postavljanja justicea...
Nisam čitao (u duh internet trolizma), ali koliko se sećam princip je da je zabranjeno uskratiti prodaju već napravljenog proizvoda (standardne serijske torte) nekome pa osnovu diskriminacije, ali istovremeno nisi primoran da radiš nešto što nećeš (nova torta, sa dodacima po želji kupca). Ako ne želiš da napraviš tortu sa dve figure mladoženja, onda ne možeš biti primoran na to.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 02-07-2023, 12:33:10
I, mislim, čini se legalizuje diskriminaciju koja je zakonom zabranjena tako da, ovo su rezultati Trampovog postavljanja justicea...
Ajmo samo smireno i bez panike. xballon
I mojne mi poturaš svoj uobičajeni princip pasivnog snobizma. Kao, "o ovom slučaju (MI) nemamo ništa da kažemo, ali znamo drugi skorašnji slučaj, koji je skroz nezakonita primena tradicije pravljenja zakona, pa eto veze."
Osim toga, daj obavesti se malo. Slučaj je i nastao zato što su Amerikanci azijskog porekla prijavili
diskriminaciju po pitanju rase, tj. tužili Harvard. Pričam o slučaju povodom afirmativne akcije, ne onom o svadbenoj torti.
Ukratko, šta će nam neoliberalizam bez rasizma.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 02-07-2023, 12:33:10
Imao je SCOTUS i druge zanimljive presude ovih dana, kao na primer da poslastičar ne mora da napravi svadbenu tortu za gej par ako ne želi:
cisto zajebavanje ljudi, resursa, tracenje vremena. poslasticar tortu za gej par ne moze napraviti ni da zeli, jer gej par - ne postoji.
uopce ne igra ulogu sta tko misli. gej par ne postoji. to je tako. covjek se moze malo praviti kao da postoji, ako je nekom bas, bas toliko stalo, iz milosrdja spram bolesnika u glava, u sklopu terapije, cega god, ali gej par prosto - ne postoji. a ako gej navodni par podivlja, kao sto je uglavnom podivljao, onda se vraca u intimu svoja cetiri kutka, diskretno gejevanje, i/ili na terapiju u ludnicu. i to je to.
tu se nema sta vise reci.
I Amerikanci imaju svoju Mitićevu rupu.
Why There's a Huge Pit in the Middle of Downtown Chicago... (https://youtu.be/L3jgmQAQ_34)
Evo na Peščaniku prevoda Njujorkerovog teksta koji se bavi odlukom Vrhovnog suda a o kojioj je Ridiculus obavestio sagitašku javnost pre neki dan. Zanimljiv je:
https://pescanik.net/kraj-afirmativne-akcije/
Reason.tv ima raspravu povodom ovih odluka Vrhovnog suda Amerike:
https://www.youtube.com/live/s7A6GW0SCZ8?feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/live/s7A6GW0SCZ8?feature=share)
Da li je (rasprava) dobra? Da li je zanimljiva? Neću ništa da pasivno sugerišem, odlučite za sebe. Siguran sam da će mnogi to uraditi i bez gledanja.
Možete i da sprovedete eksperiment. Pročitate najpre opis tog YT kanala, predvidite šta će se otprilike reći u raspravi, pa onda pogledate klip, i razmotrite da li ste pogodili odnosno da li vas je pozitivno ili negativno iznenadio sadržaj, u odnosu na očekivanja:
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Inače, ovaj Coleman Hughes koji se javlja na Reason TV je pre neki dan ugosio Raziba Khana na svom kanalu. Bilo mi je neočekivano da vidim, kad sede jedan naspram drugog, Afroamerikanca znatno sitnijeg od osobe južnoazijskog porekla. :lol:
Nemam vremena da gledam, ali kada vidim "Hear independent opinions that don't abide by tiresome left-right..." meni to odmah zamiriše na right.
iliti kad piše Cato Institute, "libertarijanci"...
Zanimljivo je gledati koliko ogoljeno već američka fimska/ TV industrija smatra da su scenaristi sada već u najboljem slučaju neugodna nuspojava u njihovom biznisu i da će je se ratosiljati što pre mogu. Štrajk scenarista učlanjenih u WGA je između ostalog nastao i zbog sve nametljivijeg guranja AI-botova u proces pisanja TV serija a pošto su se pregovori sa sindikatom SAG-Aftra odužili, juče smo čuli i to da Holivud namerava da oteže pregovore dok scenaristi, sada bez priihoda, ne počnu da gube stanove i kuće pa će da se onda pripitome (https://deadline.com/2023/07/writers-strike-hollywood-studios-deal-fight-wga-actors-1235434335/). Fino je znati kakvi su ti poslodavci, I guess...
Da se ne kaže da u SAD nema ljudi koji ne kapiraju situaciju uGazi:
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/middle-east-conflict-between-israel-and-hamas-is-dividing-the-world-196745797554 (https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/middle-east-conflict-between-israel-and-hamas-is-dividing-the-world-196745797554)
Hunter Biden indicted on nine tax charges, adding to gun charges in special counsel probe (https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-tax-charges-special-counsel-75b2aa05f247535677454ff2dfa7c71f)
ništa to za medije da je koljač
Hanter Bajden, sin Džoa Bajdena je koljač? Koga je to klao?
ma pusti to
važnije je kako se liže sladoled
Ono kad je držanje dece u kavezima od strane prethodne administracije bio vrhunac zla...
White House open to new border expulsion law, mandatory detention and increased deportations in talks with Congress (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-white-house-congress-border-security-detention-deportation/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=254669110)
Naime:
QuoteSpecifically, the White House indicated that it would support a new, far-reaching legal authority to allow U.S. border officials to summarily expel migrants without processing their asylum claims. The measure would effectively revive the Trump-era Title 42 pandemic order (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/title-42-expiration-60000-migrants-us-mexico-border-patrol-raul-ortiz/) and allow officials to pause U.S. asylum law, without a public health justification.
The administration would also back a nationwide expansion of a process known as expedited removal that allows immigration officials to deport migrants without court hearings if they don't ask for asylum or if they fail their initial asylum interviews. The program is currently limited to the border region.
Moreover, the White House would be willing to mandate the detention of certain migrants who are allowed into the country pending the adjudication of their claims. It's unclear how this provision would work since the U.S. government has never had the detention space to detain all migrants who cross into the country illegally.
A sve da bi Republikanci pristali da se odvoji još sto mlijardi dolara zarad vojne pomoći Ukrajini...
Džo Skot (jutjuber koga pratim) više voli da se bavi tehnologijom i futurizmom, ali sad se osvrno na nešto što se zove "akceleracionizam"
Why Some Billionaires Are Actively Trying To Destroy The World (https://youtu.be/CQmoQEeNYrs)
Bata voli Trampa, jer ubrzava propast Amerike, pa će mu ovo možda biti zanimljivo.
"The Indict-Mare Before Christmas" A Late Show Animated Holiday Classic Narrated By Liam Neeson (https://youtu.be/O93omtrnFy0)
Dosta obiman i informativan tekst koji pokazuje koliko je narativ o porasti stope kriminaliteta u SAD bitan u pogotovo Trampovoj predsedničkoj kampanji, a da statistika govori, jelte, sasvim surpotno, da ova stopa - i dalje - postojano pada:
https://popular.info/p/the-most-important-crime-statistics
Vrhovni sud danas presudio (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf), citiram,
QuoteSud zaključuje da je predsednik apsolutno imun od krivičnog gonjenja za ponašanje unutar svoje isključive sfere ustavne vlasti.
Sotomajorova ima izdvojeno mišljenje i kaže "Današnja odluka štiti predsednike od krivičnog gonjenja ,,za krivična i veleizdajnička dela" i ,,izvrgava ruglu princip, koji je temelj našeg Ustava i sistema vlasti, da niko nije iznad zakona". "
Bogami, zakuvalo. Znao je Tramp šta radi onomad kad je postavljao svoje ljude u SCOTUS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJkKQECj0_g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJkKQECj0_g)
Da, vraćanje ovlašćenja u domen pojedinih država (Roe vs Wade) je jedno, ali ovo sad je pretvaranje unije u mafijašku državu. Mislim da sudije ne razumeju šta su dugoročne posledice ove odluke. Kratkoročno to je strašno, Tramp će bukvalno da naručuje politička ubistva, ako bude pobedio, a da i ne pričamo o korupciji koja sad može da bude i otvorena. Ali dugoročno ovo je raspad sistema. Možda sudije smatraju da nema šanse da Tramp dobije izbore po drugi put, naročito sad posle ove odluke, tako da će ispasti da su oni ispunili svoje obećanje, ali da se ništa bitno neće desiti. Raspad, svejedno.
Znači ako Trump bude izdao američki nacionalni interes šurujući sa Rusima za to ne mora da odgovara?
Ako to provuče kroz papire, tj, predstavi to zvaničnim predsedničkim radom onda ne.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VLwdfWbj/20240702-005025.jpg)
Republikanci su majstori da pod plaštom brige da se djeca ne izlože nedobog štetnom sadržaju, obezbede da se deca odvoje i od svega korisnog. Ovo ispod je znak na ulazu u biblioteku u Ajdahou:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZU43bQW.jpeg)
Klasičan primer bacanja bebe zajedno sa vodom od kupanja, jelte...
Šta je povod?
Neki smatraju da su neke knjige toliko problematične da je potrebno zaštiti decu od takvih knjiga. Za takve ljude je veliki problem ako dete pronađe u nekoj knjizi seksualno devijantnu osobu (to jest gej homoseksualca). Paragraf 18-1514 navodi šta je to "harmful to children" i po slobodnoj interpretaciji ispada da su i neke knjige "harmful to children". Biblioteke ne mogu da troše vreme na to da svako dete sačuvaju od takvog sadržaja, onda da bi se zaštitili od budućih tužbi moraju da brane deci da ulaze u biblioteku bez pratnje odraslih.
Ne znam samo kako se u sve to uklapa "unrestricted library card", ako dete opet može samo da prčka po "zabranjenim" knjigama. Možda mora roditelj da potpiše nešto da bi dete moglo da dobije takvu člansku kartu.
Naravno da mora (https://www.ifpl.org/library-cards/):
QuoteA parent or legal guardian now selects either a restricted or unrestricted Library card to be issued to a child registering for a Library card.
- Unrestricted Card: An unrestricted card allows a child access to everything in the Library, except for adult graphic novels, Blu-Ray and DVD movies.
- Restricted Card: A restricted card allows a child to check out materials ONLY from the children's Library collection located on the first floor of the Library.
- Note: Adult graphic novels and DVD/Blu-Ray movies may only be checked out by Library cardholders who are over eighteen (18) years of age and only using the library card issued to them.
Enivej, u nameri da zaštitiš djecu od, jelte, štetnog, sjebeš im pristup svemu, GOOD JOB REPUBLIKANCI!!!!!!! Šta ima da čitaju knjige uopšte!!!!!!
Nije svemu, nego drugom spratu. Deca i dalje mogu da se šetaju po prvom spratu. Ne znam šta je tu problem. Ja kad sam bio dete išao sam u dečije odeljenje biblioteke. Znao sam da postoji i deo za odrasle, ali nije me zanimao, jer je i dečije odeljenje imalo više nego dovoljno knjiga. Jednom sam tražio nešto sa Šerlokom Holmsom, što je za odrasle, i bio sam još mali, pa me biblitekarka me proveravala da vidi mogu li ja to da čitam. Uverio sam je da mogu, i dala mi je knjigu iz sekcije za odrasle. Pročitao sam je, ali shvatio da mi neke stvari promiču jer sam još mali, i onda sam se vratio na najlepše bajke sveta. Sasvim dovoljno knjiga.
Veći je problem što je u Americi dete sve što je mlađe od 18 godina. Oni nemaju ono što se kod nas zove "maloletno lice", to jest osoba od 14 do 18 godina.
Pa upravo sam to hteo da kažem. Apsurdno je da osoba od sedamnaest i po godina bude tretirana kao da će se raspasti na komade ako u ruke uzme, šta ja znam, Lawn Boy... Ja sam čitao Mi djeca sa kolodvora zoo sa 11 godina i knjiga mi je KORISTILA, uprkos svojim, jelte eksplicitnim opisima seksa...
Samo nabavi sebi roditelja koji će da ti namesti unrestricted člansku kartu, i ceo svet je tvoj. Jbg, roditelj je taj koji je odgovoran za svoje dete.
Sure thing, ali naravno da će ovo, kao i sve slične politike, najpre da pogodi klince iz najsiromašnijih, socijalno najviše depriviranih miljea. Oni sa više opcija ionako mogu da knjige kupe na Amazonu. Oni sa manje opcija srazmerno manje šanse imaju da roditelje i staratelje i zainteresuju da im obezbede unrestricted pristup biblioteci, jelte...
decu treba zaštititi od katastrofalno loših orfelinovih izdanja po sistemu izvana gladac iznutra jadac
Imaju li ona uopšte para za te skupe knjige?
nemaju od droge i alkohola para ni za šta
Neka žena otišla u Diznijev restoran koji garantuje da pazi na zahteve posetilaca i njihove alergije. Nisu dobro pazili, i žena umre od alergijske reakcije. Muž tuži restoran, a advokati odgovore da se odrekao prava da tuži bilo koji entitet iz Diznija, jer se pretplatio na Dizni+ (i jer su kupili ulaznice za taj neki EPCOT park) i time pristao na njihov EULA.
Disney wants a wrongful death lawsuit thrown out because the plaintiff had Disney+ (https://www.npr.org/2024/08/14/nx-s1-5074830/disney-wrongful-death-lawsuit-disney)
Kasnije su se advokati odrekli ovog argumenta, i biće suđenja, ali i sama ideja da im padne na pamet je sumanuto samo po sebi.
Disney waives arbitration in lawsuit alleging food allergy death at Disney Springs (https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/disney-waives-arbitration-lawsuit-alleging-food-allergy-death-disney-springs)
Dizni sto godina snima neoliberalne horore i sad se svi čude što je neko umro od kikirikija.
Pogrešno si shvatio. Vest nije da je Dizni nehatom ubio ženu, nego da su advokati rekli da muž ne može da ih tuži, jer je tako prihvatio pretplatom na Disney+
Za pogrešnu alatku si se uhvatio...
Kakobre, garantuju da nema alergena a onda stave alergen, bukvalno je ubili iz nehata.
Sve posle sledi iz ovoga.
Okej znači ne čudi se samo Bata, nego se svi čude.
Ja se ne čudim jer sam ovu vest video pre nekoliko dana a narod je onda to memefikovao (tipa, Diznijev službeni automobil mi pregazio dete na pešačkom prelazu ali ne mogu da ih tužim jer sam se mesec dana pretplaćivao na Disney+). Vrhunac cinizma, naravno, ali je u ovom slučaju makar glasno negodovanje naroda ubedilo Diznijev pravni tim da više mogu da izgube ako nateraju čoveka na arbitraciju nego ako odu na sud.
Imamo i apdejt:
(https://i.imgur.com/Gu2FObr.jpeg)
Pa dobro, taj pomfrit je ionako najnezdraviji.
A ovde još i trojanski konj za blatantno kršenje ljudskih prava MEKDONALDSE SPAVAŠ LI MIRNO. Plus, naravno, u Americi se smatra prihvatljivim da se "ugovorom" (mada prihvatanje klikom uslova korišćenja aplikacjom baš i nije neki ugovor i propisan advokat bi to trebalo da može da ospori na sudu) odrićeš prava na suđenje a koje je u civilizovanom svetu neotuđivo ljudsko pravo... GOVNA!!!!!!!!
Truki legenda :lol:
Ali zaista, baš sam skoro slušao jednu našu doktorku da nikako ne treba jesti pomfrit zbog ulja koje se više puta koristi i izaziva kancerogena oboljenja.
A posle ne možeš govna ni da tužiš!!!!!!1
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 23-08-2024, 18:48:53
A posle ne možeš govna ni da tužiš!!!!!!1
Slažem se. No ja ću i dalje voleti McDonald's i jesti njihove hamburgere (bez pomfrita).
Mislim da sam jednom u životu jeo u meku. Moraće ozbiljno da povećaju veličinu tih njihovih burgerčića ako misle da se vratim još koji put.
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Ja zadnji put ušao 1989. godine, a i to NEVOLJNO. U to ime:
https://youtu.be/1MM-E-mU2Qk?list=OLAK5uy_lTlhGKNPHxjSLPanfqP8egQp6JUx0IGlw (https://youtu.be/1MM-E-mU2Qk?list=OLAK5uy_lTlhGKNPHxjSLPanfqP8egQp6JUx0IGlw)
Imam i lični interes pošto korporacija za koju radim pruža tehnologiju i podršku McDonald's restoranima.
Dobar je meki kad putujes
Znas sta jedes
Kod nas ukinut zbog korupcije
Lokalni lola kupio porse na racun meka
Quote from: Truba on 24-08-2024, 14:56:07
Dobar je meki kad putujes
Znas sta jedes
Kod nas ukinut zbog korupcije
Lokalni lola kupio porse na racun meka
Ovo je tačno, sećam se još davno da nam je na faksu jedan profa to spominjao onako uzgred kada je navodio primer McDonaldsa.
Lol, znaš šta jedeš u Meku. Nako, baš po američki zatucano.
Ništa lokalna kuzina. :roll:
jasta...da se proserem od lokalnih gluposti
meki je onako zacementira
Quote from: Dybuk on 24-08-2024, 17:38:40
Lol, znaš šta jedeš u Meku. Nako, baš po američki zatucano.
Ništa lokalna kuzina. :roll:
Da, zato što McD ima standard koji franšizer mora da ispuni, a kad odeš u neku zemlju trećeg sveta ili trećerazredni restoran prvog sveta nikad ne znaš da li će da te otruju.
Već sam spomenuo Erika Vajnstina na topiku o nauci, a evo sada celog intervjua od tri i po sata. Sve je laž i mimikrija. Prava demokratija ne postoji, jer da postoji planeta bi bila u ratu.
Eric Weinstein - Are We On The Brink Of A Revolution? (https://youtu.be/PYRYXhU4kxM)
ako je radio za Pitera Tila onda je neoliberal
Možda je nekad bio pa se predomislio, kao onaj Robert Rajh. Zanimljiv je intervju. O raznim stvarima su pričali. Možda najviše o nesposobnosti većine ljudi da drže u glavi različita mišljenja.
Na kraju je pričao i o onoj bokserici sa Y hromozomom. Čudi se republikancima koji joj ne daju da bude ono što jeste, žena na spektru, ali s druge strane, ako i nemaš sreće s genima, to ne znači da možeš da boksuješ protiv običnih žena.
Zamalo da se rasplače kad je pričao o detalju sa svog mladalačkog putovanja u Vijetnam. Ja bih rekao da je čestit čovek.
I ne preziva se Vajnstin nego Vajnstajn.
U Americi stanje depresivno redovno:
Sources: At least 4 killed and about 30 injured in school shooting (https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/apalachee-high-school-shooting-georgia-09-04-24?Date=20240904&Profile=cnnbrk&utm_content=1725470993&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter#h_86b38e5d99f910797b6b9d4b2d2f9b83)
Janis Varufakis sažima svetsku politiku.
How the U.S. Uses Wars to Fuel Perpetual Consumption (https://youtu.be/TjLEmclSbO0)
(https://i.postimg.cc/65stBmts/IMG-20241202-105707-510.jpg)
U Americi je aktuelna asasinacija Brajana Tompsona, izvršnog direktora osiguravajuće kuće UnitedHealthcare. Čovek je ubijen prigušenim pištoljem na sred ulice. Počinilac je u bekstvu, i ne zna se ko je. Američka javnost ne žali mnogo za ubijenim, jer osiguravajuće kuće koriste sve moguće trikove da ne isplate osiguranje. Ubica je na čaure narezao reči "delay", "deny" i "depose", što je taktika tih kuća. Čovek je čitao knjigu sličnog imena (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay,_Deny,_Defend).
I čak i TikTok detektivi doslovno odbijaju policijske molbe za pomoć jer smatraju da je ovaj ubijeni, eh, zaslužio to što ga je snašlo:
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/internet-sleuths-say-wont-help-find-unitedhealthcare-ceo-suspect-rcna183228
Quote from: mac on 09-12-2024, 13:41:21
U Americi je aktuelna asasinacija Brajana Tompsona, izvršnog direktora osiguravajuće kuće UnitedHealthcare. Čovek je ubijen prigušenim pištoljem na sred ulice. Počinilac je u bekstvu, i ne zna se ko je. Američka javnost ne žali mnogo za ubijenim, jer osiguravajuće kuće koriste sve moguće trikove da ne isplate osiguranje. Ubica je na čaure narezao reči "delay", "deny" i "depose", što je taktika tih kuća. Čovek je čitao knjigu sličnog imena (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delay,_Deny,_Defend).
Kapiram da je član porodice oštećenog recimo platio profesionalnog ubicu da ga overi.
Ne bih rekao da je ovo počinila osoba koja je profesionalni ubica. Doveo je sebe u situaciju da je morao da otkrije svoje lice recepcionarki hotela, pa je tu palo i neko flertovanje. Profesionalci to ne rade. Drugo, kako rekoh, napisao je neke reči na čaurama koje su posle pronađene. Profesionalci ni to ne rade. E sad, ili čovek ima masku ravnu onim iz Nemogućih misija, i holivudskog scenaristu da mu organizuje kako da pokaže lice, a da zapravo ne pokaže lice, ili prosto nije profesionalac.
Atentator se zove Luigi Mangione. Uhapšen je.
Suspect in the killing of UnitedHealthcare's CEO shook when police confronted him, officers say (https://apnews.com/article/unitedhealthcare-suspect-ceo-assassin-shooter-eaee0b7d31b319f42e0cf7f2f7badfb1)
Quote
Luigi Nicholas Mangione, a 26-year-old Ivy League graduate from a prominent Maryland real estate family, had a gun believed to be the one used in last Wednesday's shooting of Brian Thompson, as well as writings suggesting anger with corporate America, police said.
Luigi Mangione: murder suspect thought the Unabomber was an 'extreme political revolutionary' (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2024/12/09/luigi-mangione-murder-suspect-unabomber-revolutionary/)
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Mr Mangione went on to share an online take he said was "interesting" which read: "When all other forms of communication fail, violence is necessary to survive. You may not like his methods, but to see things from his perspective, it's not terrorism, it's war and revolution."
Enivej, nadam se da je jasno da ovo NIJE revolucionarno delo i da u najblagonaklonijem čitanju može da se opiše kao akt iz očaja ugnjetenih proletera što ovaj čovek, ipak nije bio tako da... Revoluciju ćemo morati da nađemo negde drugde.
https://www.blic.rs/vesti/svet/ko-je-luidji-mandjione-luigi-mangione-naslednik-imperije-i-djak-generacije-a-ovo-je/b2d43ht
Lična osveta izgleda nakon zdravstvenih problema.
QuoteWhen all other forms of communication fail, violence is necessary to survive.
Што би реко онај јаран Тима Меквеја у Bowling for Columbine - "I believe the pen is mightier than the sword. But you have to have the sword if the pen fails." :)
Tviter u euforiji:
(https://i.imgur.com/mnkaDrm.jpeg)
A Robert Evans analizira Luiđijev, jelte, "onlajn futprint" i zaključuje da ga je radikalizoao - bol:
Alleged CEO Shooter Luigi Mangione Was Radicalized by Pain (https://shatterzone.substack.com/p/alleged-ceo-shooter-luigi-mangione)
Džoš Džonson prožima ovaj događaj, ali i ne sažima, jer komedija traje pun sat.
The Failure, Fear, And Frenzy around Luigi Mangione (https://youtu.be/HZl_ZBzvifA)
"Don't mistake their self-preservation for empathy"
Matt Gaetz nađen kako se drogira i kurva, uključujući plaćanje sedamnaestogodišnjakinji za seksualne usluge (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/house-ethics-committee-finds-substantial-evidence-matt-gaetz-paid-for-sex-and-drugs-while-in-congress-heres-what-we-know-about-the-report-expected-to-be-released-today-152307171.html).
Zvuči dramatično, ipak je u pitanju visoki funkcioner koji je od 2016. godine u Kongresu kao predstavnik GOP-a a Trampov je kandidat za ministra pravde u vladi koja kreće 20. januara. No, nisam siguran da za MAGA ekipu ovakve stvari uopšte pomeraju, jelte, iglu. Oni koji ne smatraju da je sve ovo izmišljotina "liberala", "menjstrim medija" i "ekstremne levice" ionako verovatno misle da čovek, pogotovo na položaju, ima pravo da se malo opusti i koji kurac oće ovi zavidljivci
Da notiramo apokaliptični požar koji posldnja dva dana jede Los Anđečes i mnogi selbritiji su u njemu izgubili imovinu:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/live/los-angeles-wildfires-live-updates-5-killed-palisades-and-eaton-fires-spread-sunset-fire-erupts-in-hollywood-hills-141555082.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/live/los-angeles-wildfires-live-updates-5-killed-palisades-and-eaton-fires-spread-sunset-fire-erupts-in-hollywood-hills-141555082.html)
Trump želi najveći otok na svijetu: Kolika bi bila cijena Grenlanda da je stvarno na prodaju!? (https://narod.hr/eu-svijet/svijet/trump-zeli-najveci-otok-na-svijetu-kolika-bi-bila-cijena-grenlanda-da-je-stvarno-na-prodaju)
QuoteDonald Trump, koji će 20. siječnja pod drugi puta biti ustoličen za američkog predsjednika, ne krije kako bi volio da SAD kupi Grenland. Fokus na ovom golemom otoku koji spada pod danski teritorij, Trump je imao i ranije, no posljednjih dana Grenland se sve češće spominje u tom kontekstu. Naime, ponuda za kupnju Grenlanda postojala je u SAD-u i 1946., a postoje i procjene koliko zapravo danas košta najveći otok na svijetu.
Grenland je ovih dana posjetio i Trumpov sin, Donald Trump Jr. i to nimalo neslužbeno i turistički, kako je tvrdio.
Traže neovisnost od Danske
Iako je Danska rekla odlučno ne mogućnosti da se odrekne Grenlanda, a francuski ministar vanjskih poslova kazao je da 'ne dolazi u obzir da bi Europska unija drugim državama svijeta dopustila napad na svoje suverene granice", iako je Trump spominjao otkup, a ne osvajanje Grenlanda, činjenica je da su na tom otoku sve glasnije težnje za potpuno odcjepljenje od Danske i proglašavanje neovisnosti.
A onda se o aranžmanima s Trumpom neće pitati niti Dansku, niti Europsku uniju, iz koje je Grenland referendumom izašao prije 40 godina.
Premijer Grenlanda, najvećeg otoka na svijetu na kojem živi tek 60 tisuća stanovnika, pozvao je na neovisnost od Danske i uklanjanje okova kolonijalizma u oštrom novogodišnjem obraćanju.
Grenland je prestao biti danska kolonija 1979. iako je i dalje danski teritorij te dijele vanjsku i obrambenu politiku.
"Sada je vrijeme da poduzmemo sljedeći korak za našu zemlju. Kao i druge zemlje u svijetu, moramo raditi na uklanjanju prepreka suradnji, koje možemo opisati kao okove kolonijalnog doba, i krenuti dalje", rekao je grenlandski premijer Múte Egede.
Koliko bi Grenland koštao?
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sreckovici, rijesiti se tako kompletno propalica i manijaka iz eu/danske i usidriti se u usa. usa moze posrnuti, ali je previse fleksibilna da se ne bi "docekala na noge" i opet sredila. poduzetna kultura.
dok sa teladi u briselu nema nade do dna. vidi nacisticku njemacku, vidi jugu, to je taj obrazac. prvo dno, nema zaokreta prije totalne propasti, to je partija.
Potresni prizori iz Los Angelesa: Spaljene luksuzne četvrti, izbijaju novi požari (https://narod.hr/eu-svijet/potresni-prizori-iz-los-angelesa-spaljene-luksuzne-cetvrti-izbijaju-novi-pozari)
QuoteNajmanje pet osoba poginulo je u katastrofalnim požarima u Los Angelesu gdje je noćas buknuo još jedan – šesti požar. Zahvatio je Hollywood Hills, mjesto na kojemu stoji kultni natpis Hollywood.
Više od stotinu tisuća ljudi evakuirano je, a još toliko čeka spremno da napusti domove.
Najveći je požar progutao gotovo 4856 hektara u Pacific Palisadesu, slikovitoj četvrti između obalnih gradova Santa Monice i Malibua u kojoj žive brojne filmske, televizijske i glazbene zvijezde.
Neke od njih objavile su i snimke požara.
"This is like a 3rd world country" - Rick Caruso says there is 0 water coming out of the fire hydrants. Mayor Bass is in Ghana. (https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1876894002336686220?mx=2)
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uzas, a tako je malo nedostajalo. samo jos jedna peder-parada i da su doveli tek 20% vise cobana iz kakve svjetske vukojebine da im se nakote.
moglo je tad i vode, jedan lijepi cunami. :cry:
šefica vatrogasaca gej žena zamjenica gej žena zamjenicina zamjena gej žena ili gej
defundirali vatrogasce 17 milijuna
gradonačelnica u africi na nekom simpoziju
sarajevski gej deen backovic morao biti evakuiran sa 2 vrećice u rukama zajedno sa svojim momkom crncem
baš kao što je 1992 bježao pred čedama
nakotilo se na sve strane. plus, koliko su tek demotivirali naroda; koja ce budala jos posteno raditi kad se svaki dan na buljuke popikava na te uhljebljene idiote. kvalifikacija peder.
Deset mrtvih u Los Angelesu: U evakuiranim područjima – pljačke, vojska izlazi na ulice (https://narod.hr/eu-svijet/deset-mrtvih-u-los-angelesu-u-evakuiranim-podrucjima-pljacke-vojska-izlazi-na-ulice)
QuoteŠumski požari na području Los Angelesa ne smiruje se. Deset ljudi je poginulo, a oko 10.000 građevina pretvorilo se u pepeo. Evakuirano je više od 100 tisuća ljudi. Neki su se ovom situacijom probali okoristiti pa je guverner na pogođeno područje poslao vojsku.
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opake sushe. ovo se cita uz, sto bi rekli transpederi i nova, nova partija, muSic.
https://youtu.be/QqshdQnvORc (https://youtu.be/QqshdQnvORc)
Potresna ispovest holivudske glumice: "Ostavili smo iza nas Los Anđeles u plamenu, poneli smo samo slike" (https://www.b92.net/zivot/aktuelno/93465/potresna-ispovest-holivudske-glumice-ostavili-smo-iza-nas-los-andjeles-u-plamenu-poneli-smo-samo-slike/vest)
QuoteAmerička glumica Tori Speling podelila je svoje zastrašujuće iskustvo evakuacije nakon što je morala da pobegne od požara koji haraju Los Anđelesom.
Na Instagramu je poručila da nije ranije htela da piše o požarima na društvenim mrežama jer su platforme već bile preplavljene objavama o požarima.
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Priznala je da žali što nije ranije napustila područje pogođeno požarom, uprkos savetima prijatelja.
"U autu, ja i petoro dece, tri velika psa, mačka i tvor neočekivano smo krenuli. Prijatelji su mi danima govorili da spakujem stvari i pripremim plan. Trebala sam da ih poslušam", napisala je.
Speling je otkrila da su napustili Los Anđeles ne znajući kuda idu, ali im je prijateljica povezana s Airbnbom osigurala smeštaj.
"Jedva smo se smestili. Bez odeće. Ali uzela sam albume sa slikama. I pobegli smo. U panici, obratila sam se svojoj prijateljici Džejmi Švarc. Ona mi je ranije spomenula da radi s Airbnbom", otkrila je glumica.
"Doslovno! Našli su nam smeštaj iste večeri. Džejmi i Tejlor, večno ću vam biti zahvalna!
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da su mediji skroz iskreni, zastrasujuce iskustvo i potresna prica bi se citili kao "sva posluga se razbjezala, ostavila me zarobljenu u kuci." jer tri dana joj je vjerojatno trebalo da dokuci kako se otvaraju ulazna vrata, da treba pritisnuti neku kvaku prema dolje. :cry:
kladim se na nevidjeno da ovaj profil zenskog teleta ne zna ni kako odvrnuti cep sa boce.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 09-01-2025, 05:40:42
Da notiramo apokaliptični požar koji posldnja dva dana jede Los Anđečes i mnogi selbritiji su u njemu izgubili imovinu:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/live/los-angeles-wildfires-live-updates-5-killed-palisades-and-eaton-fires-spread-sunset-fire-erupts-in-hollywood-hills-141555082.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/live/los-angeles-wildfires-live-updates-5-killed-palisades-and-eaton-fires-spread-sunset-fire-erupts-in-hollywood-hills-141555082.html)
Madlib izgubio kuću, a sa njom i vaskoliku opremu, kolekciju ploča, objavljenu i neobjavljenu muziku, ...
Tragedija unutar tragedije.
izguglah, poslusah; nenadoknadiv gubitak za covjecanstvo. kao, kao kad bi odjednom utihnuo sveprisutni, pasivno iritantni pozadinski sum. tako originalan. :cry:
Nikad cuo to neki sotonjara
ispreskakao sam dvadesetak djela, albuma, samo je isprazno. nema sadrzaja, nema stvarnog talenta, nema pravog sluha, nista, glupost, kao gipsani lavovi pred kucom nekog novokomponiranog teleta. nikako ne mogu dokuciti kako bi ovako nesto po glazbenoj liniji moglo postati uspjesno, ne mogu uskladiti sa pojmom uspjeha. shund, shund, isprazni shund. turbofolk je sadrzajniji. ajd neka je crnac, nek' mu je i bonus, fensi i trend, ali ljudi, zaboga, to je u glazbenom smislu otpad, ne umjetnost. ne sadrzi apsolutno nista.
tragedijom smatram da mu se djelo sve sa kucom nije srondalo na glavu. :cry:
Ajmo ne budimo smešni sa tim "white supremacy" naci fazonima, bar što se muzike tiče. Teško ćete dokazati ko je Jupiter, a ko vo u tom pogledu. Otprilike odnos snaga kao i u sportu.
Verovatno je Zole zainteresovan za Madliba isto koliko je neki crnac zaintersovan za muziku belog čoveka.
Ceo rok baziran na crnačkoj muzici, džezu, bluzu i kopiranju iste od Elvisa naovamo.
Pokazujem juče koleginici crnkinji klipove koje sam snimio na Coldplay koncertu, koji mi je delovao kao energetični i atmosferični doživljaj godine. Samo kad nije zaspala...
cuvaj se hiv-a.
inace sve promaseno. uopce ne zanima boja izvodjaca oko glazbe. naglasak je na cinjenici da je ovaj cista industrija, proizvod, nesto kao prijovicka, samo za neki drugi mentalni sklop.
ne prodaje ga talenat za glazbu, glazbeno djelo, vec shema koja ga je stvorila, oblikovala i koja ga razvija i promovira.
Džez su nazivali vulgarnom crnačkom muzikom. Danas ga mahom bogati blazirani belci (BBB) slušaju kao elitnu muziku.
Kvantifikuj bilo čiji (ne)talenat.
P.S.
Hvala na brizi. Pomisliću da sam sposoban za nešto više sem da privlačim pažnju ostarelih pedera. :roll:
ne zanimaju zanrovske podjele, stil, porijeklo i formalna pojava izvodjaca, kakvog god, vec po konkretnom djelu imamo podjelu na glazbu i otpad.
konkretni primjer nije proizveo nista vrijedno, predstavlja otpad. jasno, o ukusu se ne raspravlja, mora se talenat i kvantificirati: mozes se pozvati na mene.
dzez? 99% smece, uz koje glazbeno djelo, kao i u svemu. smece stvara (kopira) i prodaje shema, od strucnjaka za image, do mehine recenzije, a glazbeno djelo je nadahnuto, sadrzajno, umjetnost i kao takvo uglavnom prepoznatljivo (ako se ne trudimo ispostivati nametnute gluposti i trendove).
Obično se talenat ne kvantificira već pristojni ljudi dodaju "ali to je sve samo moje mišljenje", dok je, eto, kod tebe to generalna, a ne individualna stvar, lično mišljenje.
Ostalo sam ti već objasnio. Isto, to je samo tvoje mišljenje. Moraćeš osnovati Zosko Državu, otvoriti konc logore i izvršiti genocid da bi imao ikakve šanse da ga ikom nametneš.
Čak i većini Hrvata koja se gnuša ustaša.
obicno ne zanima. i to nije vecina hrvata, to je otpad, fuj.
ali opet su ti odlutale misli, ne mozes se fokusirati, zivis (los) jazz. :cry:
meni je jazz dosadna muzika ali volim ponekad da cujem milesa davisa i johna coltranea
https://www.jwz.org/blog/2025/02/electronic-genital-verification/
Kodi Džonston pogađa suštinu. Desnica u Americi je u ratu sa empatijom.
http://The Right's War on Empathy - SOME MORE NEWS (https://youtu.be/dwdAEkJks8A)
Video traje sat i po s reklamama.
Biti anti-choice iz fotelje je all fun & games, dok se ne desi ovako nešto:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/15/pregnant-georgia-woman-brain-dead-abortion-law
30-godišnja trudnica je umrla od posledica ugrušaka na mozgu, konkretnije, proglašena je klinički mrtvom.
Sad, zbog zabrane abortusa u Džordžiji (nakon 6 nedelja trudnoće), klinički mrtvu ženu su pretvorili u inkubator; održavaju joj telo u funkciji dok joj mozak truli, do porođaja. Plod se ne razvija pravilno i biće teško oštećen ukoliko uopšte preživi. Porodica nema pravo glasa.
Fun, right?
Nema veze, dešava se drugima (po pravilu siromašnima i WOC).
Skotovi.
Quote from: Dybuk on 19-05-2025, 13:36:35Biti anti-choice iz fotelje je all fun & games, dok se ne desi ovako nešto:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/15/pregnant-georgia-woman-brain-dead-abortion-law
30-godišnja trudnica je umrla od posledica ugrušaka na mozgu, konkretnije, proglašena je klinički mrtvom.
Sad, zbog zabrane abortusa u Džordžiji (nakon 6 nedelja trudnoće), klinički mrtvu ženu su pretvorili u inkubator; održavaju joj telo u funkciji dok joj mozak truli, do porođaja. Plod se ne razvija pravilno i biće teško oštećen ukoliko uopšte preživi. Porodica nema pravo glasa.
Fun, right?
Nema veze, dešava se drugima (po pravilu siromašnima i WOC).
Žao mi je što se ovakve stvari dešavaju. HQ firme za koju radim je u Atlanti, kažu da je kvalitetan grad za život. Ali ovakve stvari kvare utisak.
realno ne razumijem uzasavanje.
ako pokusavaju spasiti dijete, to bi u pravilu trebalo biti u interesu ozaloscene obitelji. mnogi bi se borili za to, vecina. "da im od tragicno preminule kcerke/nevjencane supruge/unuke/snahe ostane dijete, dio nje".
guardian mi je i sumnjiv izvor sa poznatom leftardskom agendom, uvijek u sluzbi krupnog kapitala, te bas ne vjerujem ni da stvari stoje kako oni to selektivno isticu i navode.
a osim zakonodavstva i interesa obitelji, negdje tu vjerojatno proviruje i research.
a ako masim poantu, ako se radi o uzasavanju zbog pitanja glave: zar glavu ne bi mogli odstraniti kao, pojma nemam, kao sto obicavaju nasi napredni zeleni prijatelji u alziru, palestini ili tako nekako?
Quoteguardian mi je i sumnjiv izvor sa poznatom leftardskom agendom, uvijek u sluzbi krupnog kapitala, te bas ne vjerujem ni da stvari stoje kako oni to selektivno isticu i navode.
Mda, da se narod.hr pita - ovo je pobeda života nad smrću.
Što se kapitala tiče, neko će morati da plati astronomske bolničke troškove, a to neće biti ni narod (hr) ni Georgia on my mind, nego nevoljna porodica. Šta će biti sa detetom koje, ako preživi rođenje, neće moći samostalno da živi, itd itd...mnogo pitanja koja državu ne zanimaju pošto izvade dete iz leša majke.
tesko reci je li to pobjeda zivota nad smrcu, mislim, tesko je reci sta se uopce konkretno desava i o cemu raspravljamo.
napisi propalog guardiana ne vrijede ni dva pixla, to se sve mora citati uz ogromni oprez i ne moze se stvarati misljenje na osnovi medija koji ima poznatu agendu u sluzbi krupnog kapitala, pa i kad zvuci "ljevicarski"; uglavnom medija koji manipulira i upreze ljude u sluzbu krupnog kapitala.
realno ne znas ni sta se konkretno desava, ne znas ni stvarni stav pripadnika obitelji, zajamceno si stvorila pogresnu sliku. ja tu vidim tek manipulativni clanak medija koji je poznat po poluistinama i lazima i koji postavlja nekoliko nategnutih tvrdnji, te proabortivnog odvjetnika koji ima interes "stvoriti slucaj" i koji vjerojatno izvlaci iz konteksta i nateze tek jednu mogucu izjavicu kakve rodbine.
ne znas nista ni o ljudima koji su dio price, a "cija prava zastupas", koji je to mentalni sklop, koliko ih je lako ili tesko navuci na glupe radnje ili izjave, nista. slika zrtve koju si stvorila cisti je sf.
Лефтоиди су мајстори чери пикинга.
Novinar Džejk Taper promoviše svoju novu knjigu Original Sin, u kojoj se opisuje pogoršanje mentalnog zdravlja tadašnjeg predsednika Džoa Bajdena (za koga je upravo aktuelno da mu je otkriven neki kancer), kao i zavere da se to zataška, sve zajedno sa Bajdenovom odlukom da se ponovo kandiduje za predsednika. Taper je obično flegmatik, ali ovde se na momente čini da je iznerviran što se sve to tako desilo.
How Groupthink Protected Biden and Reelected Trump | The Ezra Klein Show (https://youtu.be/dO7-Ij8l9jI)
Intervju traje 80 minuta
Сјајни Марк Дајс о поменутој књизи Џејка Тејпворма:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s27slCMdRH8
Velika istraga: Tko je vodio SAD zadnjih godina i je li Biden uopće bio sposoban? (https://narod.hr/eu-svijet/velika-istraga-tko-je-vodio-sad-zadnjih-godina-i-je-li-biden-uopce-bio-sposoban)
QuoteAmerički republikanci žele istražiti tko je uistinu vodio SAD zadnjih godina i je li se za mandata Joea Bidena koristio autopen (hrv. automatska olovka, uređaj za umnožavanje potpisa). Propituju je li Biden uopće bio mentalno i kognitivno sposoban voditi državu jer svjedočanstva mnogih ljudi koji su ga susretali to negiraju. Republikanski senator Ron Johnson, predsjednik Stalnog pododbora za istrage pokrenuo je istragu o mogućem zataškavanju zdravstvenog stanja bivšeg predsjednika i pozvao članove njegovog kabineta da svjedoče.
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Mislim da Amerika ima aktuelnije teme od bivše vlasti. Evo, na primer, šta dobijete kada na čelo ministarstva zdravlja stavitre čoveka poznatog po poricanju mnogostruko potvrđenih naučnih rezultata, a onda njegov tim "napiše" izveštaj na kome treba da se temelji budući strateški razvoj u ovoj oblasti, a koji je, naravno, "napisan" obilnim korišćenjem veštačke inteligencija koja, pak, citira nepostojeće naučne radove, daje faktualno pogrešne sažetke za postojeće naučne radove (na primer da je jentš što se desilo 2003. godine posledica regulative koja je uvedena tek 2013. godine) itd. JFK junior nije tek "konzervativan" u svojim načelima već ful-bloun konspiratolog (https://www.nytimes.com/article/rfk-conspiracy-theories-fact-check.html), čovek je doslovno napisao knjigu u kojoj insistira da bakterije nemaju nikakve veze sa razboljevanjem, jelte, ljudi (https://www.jalopnik.com/1849507/rfk-jr-position-germ-theory-potential-travel-impact/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox-Jalopnik&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1746293926), a kad TO iskombinujete sa čacijevskim korišćenjem veštačke inteligencije da smandrljate izveštaj, stiže vam ovo:
The AI Slop Scandal Around the MAHA Report Is Getting Worse (https://futurism.com/ai-slop-scandal-maha-report)
Fallout je izgleda istinita priča:
Bivša Busheva dužnosnica tvrdi: "Svijetom upravlja međudimenzionalna demonska inteligencija" (https://dnevnik.hr/vijesti/svijet/catherine-austin-fitts-bivsa-minsitrica-george-busah-starijeg-tvrdi-da-svijetom-upravlja-demonska-inteligencija---916617.html)
Gospođa Fitts mislila je na sve: demone, anđele, vanzemaljce, COVID, cjepiva, tajne odbore, podzemne baze... Sve je tu.
QuoteBivša dužnosnica dospjela je na naslovnice ranije ovog mjeseca nakon što se pojavila kod Tuckera Carlsona gdje je tvrdila da se američka vlada potajno priprema za masovno izumiranje na Zemlji, piše Daily Mail.
"Jedna od stvari koju sam proučila u procesu istraživanja kamo ide sav taj novac jest izgrađena podzemna baza, gradska infrastruktura i prometni sustav", rekla je.
Na temelju dvogodišnje studije, Fitts je procijenila da u SAD-u i potencijalno pod okolnim oceanima postoji otprilike 170 podzemnih objekata, povezanih tajnom transportnom mrežom. Kad je Carlson pitao o njihovoj svrsi, Fitts je odgovorila: "Zbog događaja koji će izazvati gotovo cijelokupno izumiranje", sugerirajući da su baze osmišljene kako bi zaštitile elite tijekom katastrofalnog scenarija.
Fitts je ponudila malo detalja o nadolazećoj prijetnji, ali je kao moguće okidače istaknula klimatske promjene, loše upravljanje resursima, prirodne katastrofe, geopolitičke sukobe ili društveni kolaps.
U zapanjujućem otkriću, Fitts je tvrdila da joj je ponuđeno mjesto u podzemnoj bazi, ali je odbila, navodeći da će radije "okušati sreću na površini".
Što bi neko njoj nudio mesto? Sa 74 godina ne izgleda mi na vrhuncu plodnosti.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DI2QjLGOwXD/
Pogledajte ovaj kratki isečak iz Bushovog govora. Taj čovek je važio za idiota a u odnosu na Trumpa deluje kao član Mense. Koliko se samo Amerika srozala...
Замисли подржаваш "unburdened by what has been" Камалу и онда говориш да је неко други идиот xrofl :x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzSBm4CaWPM
https://www.b92.net/zivot/aktuelno/138864/generacija-zed-trazi-pravo-na-seks-dan-tokom-posla/vest
produktivnost raste haha
šta sve neoliberali neće izmisliti
Ako se dobro organizuješ svaki dan može biti seks dan.
Njujork na ivici interesantnog gradonačelništva:
Zohran Mamdani offered New Yorkers a political revolution – and won (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/25/zohran-mamdani-offered-a-political-revolution-and-won)
I u Jakobinu:
https://jacobin.com/2025/06/zohran-mamdani-canvassing-nyc-mayor
Edit: pogodan trenutak da se setimo ovog sjajnog momenta u istoriji Nju Jork Posta:
(https://i.imgur.com/GyX0cs3.jpeg)
Немам појма ко је овај Зоран, али видим да су ционисти нешто много бијесни на њега.
ti muslimani lijepo se ostvaruju kao "socijalisti" u krscanskim kulturama i zemljama, dok ni jedan u izvornima. eno u iranu zena bilo koje dobi zakonski mora imati skrbnika (znaci vlasnika) a slobodna je za udaju (znaci prodaju) od navrsenih 9 godina.
a us americki idioti ce tek nauciti razliku izmedju socijalnog i socijalistickog.
TKO JE ZOHRAN MAMDANI? - Socijalist koji kritizira Izrael mogao bi postati gradonačelnikom New Yorka (https://narod.hr/eu-svijet/socijalist-koji-kritizira-izrael-mogao-postati-gradonacelnikom-new-yorka)
QuoteZohran Mamdani, 33-godišnji zastupnik i demokratski socijalist, na dobrom je putu da osvoji demokratske predizbore za gradonačelnika New Yorka — što predstavlja golem preokret u onome što je inače trebao biti miran reizbor dosadašnjeg gradonačelnika Erica Adamsa, te uključuje rušenje političkog povratka Andrewa Cuoma.
Cuomo priznao poraz
Cuomo je priznao poraz kasno u utorak navečer i rekao da je nazvao Mamdanija kako bi mu čestitao. ,,Večeras nije bila naša noć", rekao je Cuomo u sjedištu sindikata stolara New Yorka. ,,Vrlo sam ponosan na kampanju koju smo vodili."
Prema podacima izborne komisije New Yorka, Mamdani je osvojio 43,5 posto glasova, dok je Cuomo dobio 36,3 posto. Očekuje se da će komisija objaviti potpune rezultate 1. srpnja, u izborima koji su koristili sustav rangiranog glasanja, koji omogućuje glasačima da navedu do pet kandidata po redoslijedu preferencija.
,,Dali smo našem gradu mogućnost da ponovno vjeruje," rekao je Mamdani oduševljenoj gomili pristaša u utorak navečer u pivnici u Queensu. ,,Obećavam vam da ćemo ovaj veliki grad preoblikovati, ne po mojoj slici, već po slici svakog njujorčanina koji poznaje samo borbu. U našem New Yorku, moć pripada narodu."
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Mamdani je rođen u Ugandi
Južnoazijski birači u Queensu, koji su 2021. podržali umjerenog Adamsa, sada su glasali za Mamdanija, vjerojatno potaknuti mogućnošću da prvi gradonačelnik azijskog podrijetla bude izabran. Mamdani, koji je musliman, rođen je u Ugandi u obitelji indijskog podrijetla.
Pobijedio je i u latinoameričkim četvrtima u Queensu. ,,Njegova masovna kampanja na terenu sigurno je tome pridonijela," rekao je John Mollenkopf, direktor Centra za urbanu istraživanja pri CUNY-jevom sveučilišnom centru, ističući važnost njegove kampanje na španjolskom jeziku.
Izbori također pokazuju promjenu biračkog tijela: više od 980.782 demokrata glasalo je na predizborima, više nego 942.031 iz 2021. i najviše od 1989., kada je više od milijun ljudi izašlo kako bi izabralo prvog crnog gradonačelnika Davida Dinkinsa. Kako je nedavno izvijestio New York Times, crnačko stanovništvo u New Yorku možda opada.
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Mamdani je bio nepoznat
,,Na glasačkom sam listiću za opće izbore," rekao je Cuomo dok je glasovao u utorak ujutro.
Kako god bilo, Mamdani će se vjerojatno suočiti sa žestokim protivljenjem, potpomognutim milijunima dolara. Super PAC koji podržava Cuoma neumorno je napadao Mamdanija zbog njegovog neiskustva, kritike Izraela i povezanosti s pro-palestinskim aktivizmom na sveučilištima.
,,Ovo je kapitalistički grad koji ima povijesne veze s Izraelom," rekla je Kathy Wylde, lobistica gradskih velikih poslovnih interesa i predsjednica organizacije Partnership for New York City. ,,Ako pobijedi u predizborima, morat će se suočiti s time. Ili će uslijediti ozbiljan pokušaj da ga se spriječi da postane gradonačelnik."
Kad je u listopadu pokrenuo kampanju, Mamdani je bio gotovo nepoznat u cijelom gradu, s manje od pet godina iskustva u državnoj skupštini i vrlo malo zakonodavnih postignuća.
Cuomo je imao nevoljku potporu stranačkog establišmenta
Njegov mogući uspjeh označavao bi iznenađujući pad Cuoma, koji je imao novac, poznato obiteljsko prezime i nevoljku potporu stranačkog establišmenta — a sve to poraženo od socijalista upola mlađeg, otvoreno kritičnog prema Izraelu, u gradu s gotovo milijun Židova.
Cuomo je svoju kampanju pokrenuo u ožujku, izbjegavao medije i forume, a vodio je nostalgičnu kampanju utemeljenu na njegovim televizijskim obraćanjima tijekom pandemije i uspjesima poput legalizacije istospolnih brakova i obnove zračne luke LaGuardia, koju je Joe Biden svojedobno usporedio s ,,aerodromom iz trećeg svijeta."
Svojim neobično dugim, 17-minutnim uvodnim videom, prikazao je tmurnu sliku grada i više se fokusirao na napade na svog optimističnog suparnika nego na davanje nade građanima, koji su opetovano tražili novi smjer. Cuomo se oslonio na svoje prednosti — iskustvo, upravljanje, oštru retoriku prema Trumpu — ali se manje od Mamdanija bavio pitanjem priuštivosti, koje je glasačima među najvažnijima.
Mamdani bi bio najmlađi gradonačelnik u više od stoljeća
Izbori diljem svijeta posljednjih godina pokazuju da su glasači siti establišmenta, a u New Yorku nitko ga ne predstavlja više od Cuoma, čiji je otac Mario bio guverner od 1983. do 1994.
Rođen 1991., Mamdani bi bio najmlađi gradonačelnik u više od stoljeća. Musliman indijskog podrijetla, rođen u Ugandi, a u New York je doselio sa sedam godina. Njegov izbor značio bi niz povijesnih prekretnica za grad.
Cuomo i drugi kritičari nazvali su Mamdanijeve planove za širenje usluga financiranih iz gradske blagajne fantazijom jer ovise o povećanju poreza koje guverner vjerojatno neće odobriti, te su ga kritizirali zbog nedostatka iskustva. Izabran je u Skupštinu 2020. i vodi tim od pet ljudi. Ako pobijedi, upravljanje gradom s 300.000 javnih službenika bit će golemi izazov.
Mamdani ističe svoju kampanju kao odgovor. Ako uspije sljedeći tjedan, to će biti unatoč protivljenju većine sindikata, lokalnih čelnika stranke, uredništava i predstavnika nekretninskog i financijskog sektora, piše Politico.
,,Svima koji me povuku sa strane i šapću s najboljom namjerom: 'Već ste pobijedili,'" rekao je Mamdani na skupu ranije ovog mjeseca, uz Ocasio-Cortez. ,,Žao mi je, ali dani moralnih pobjeda su prošli. Ova kampanja će pobijediti 24. lipnja — zahvaljujući svakome od vas."
osvrta vrijedan bio bi zakljucak da su biraci siti establishmenta. tek ne mogu povezati sta je tu konkretno vrijedno paznje kad ljudi aktualni establishment (idiota ili gustera ili pitaj boga gdje vuku porijeklo retardirano) zamijene podvaljenim indijsko-islamskim establishmentom zapakiranim u "socijalizam i "covjeka iz naroda".
dobit ce slicno kao i europa kad ovo tu metastaziralo: svakodnevnu borbu protiv sibicarenja u svim segmentima i na svim razinama. ja se bar 20x dnevno moram natezati sa sibicarenjem, u zemlji koja je inace stekla reputaciju zbog reda. ako zanemarimo reputaciju zbog hitlera i marksa, jelte.
sta zelim reci: pojam socijalnog ne postoji bez krscanske podloge, bez krista, uvijek je tek forma bez stvarnog sadrzaja. tko zeli moze me pokusati osporiti.
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/asia/pakistan/us-to-revoke-visas-for-glastonbury-band-bob-vylan-over-anti-israel-chant/ar-AA1HIvEi
Сједињене америчке државе укидају визе некаквом британском бенду због скандирања на некаквом музичком фестивалу, при чему скандирање није имало никакве везе са Сједињеним америчким државама него са Израелом. Овај комбо Израел-УСА све више подсјећа на Мастер-Бластер симбиозу из Побјешњелог Макса 3.
Srećan nam 4th July, dan kada tradicionalno radim svega četiri sata. :mrgreen:
Da, i Amerikanci štuju dan borca.
Musk announces arrival of new 'America Party' after Trump split (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/05/elon-musk-third-party-00440033)
Quote"By a factor of 2 to 1, you want a new political party and you shall have it! When it comes to bankrupting our country with waste & graft, we live in a one-party system, not a democracy," he wrote. "Today, the America Party is formed to give you back your freedom."
Move on, nothing to see here:
Exclusive: DOJ, FBI conclude Epstein had no "client list," died by suicide (https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administration)
Teksašani gledaju u budućnost, u kojoj dolar nije na ceni, ali zlato i srebro i dalje jesu.
https://www.texaspolicyresearch.com/texas-brings-back-sound-money-hb-1056-makes-gold-and-silver-spendable/
Kodi Džonston objašnjava da fraza "government should be run like a business" nema nikakvog smisla, ni semantički, ni logički, a nije ni ljudski.
Should the Government Be Run "Like A Business"? - SOME MORE NEWS (https://youtu.be/-ewIf4Ca6IA)
Gunman who killed 4 at NYC building was targeting NFL offices but took wrong elevator, mayor says (https://apnews.com/live/manhattan-office-shooting-nyc-updates)
Problem je što liftovi nisu dobro obeleženi, pretpostavljam, a ne što svaka budala može da kupi pušku u prodavnici...
Kako ja to uvek ponekad kažem "gledaj danas Ameriku da bi znao šta će sutra da se radi u Srbiji". Trampova ćacizacija Ministarstva pravde je nešto gde mi već imamo dosta iskustva, ali ovaj opinion pis dosta plastično nabraja gomilu stvari za koje nikada ne biste pomislile da bi se dešavale u ozbiljnoj državi and yet here we are:
https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/5423818-trump-and-bondi-have-degraded-the-once-proud-justice-department/
Махнита воук руља натоварена фарбом за косу, пирсинзима и тетоважама никад не разочара. У најновијој епизоди свог екстремног лудила натоврзли су се на рекламу за фармерке, називајући је "нацистичком пропагандом". Проблем дотичне рекламе је, наравно, у томе што се у њој умјесто некакве дебеле црнкиње или транџе појављује дивна Сидни Свини.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfaPA1qgGME
Kako traćiti javne resurse na najidiotskiji populistički način:
Trump administration is reviewing all 55 million foreigners with US visas for any violations (https://apnews.com/article/trump-visas-deportations-068ad6cd5724e7248577f17592327ca4)
A ova debilčina zaslužuje posebni poglalje u bubućim istorijskim spisima:
RFK Jr. vowed to find the environmental causes of autism. Then he shut down research trying to do just that (https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/22/health/rfk-autism-research-propublica)
Taj Kennedy je baš alternativan. Sramoti slavnu familiju.
I bend Dead Kennedys.
Minneapolis shooting live updates: 2 children killed, 17 injured after gunman opened fire during church school Mass (https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/live/minneapolis-shooting-live-updates-2-children-killed-17-injured-after-gunman-opened-fire-during-church-school-mass-144431757.html)
Napadač na katoličku školu bio je 'transrodan': Zločin je najavio stravičnim porukama (https://narod.hr/eu-svijet/napadac-na-katolicku-skolu-bio-je-transrodan-zlocin-je-najavio-stravicnim-porukama)
QuoteRavnatelj FBI-a Kash Patel rekao je u srijedu poslijepodne da agencija istražuje masovnu pucnjavu u katoličkoj školi Annunciation u Minneapolisu "kao čin domaćeg terorizma i zločina iz mržnje usmjerenog protiv katolika". Naime, napadač se identificirao kao "transrodan".
Dvoje djece — u dobi od 8 i 10 godina — ubijeno je, a 17 drugih osoba, uključujući 14 djece, ranjeno je kada je napadač koji se identificira kao "transrodna" osoba, Robin Westman, zapucao u zgradu u kojoj su se učenici i osoblje u srijedu ujutro okupili na misi. Među ranjenima je 14 djece u dobi od 6 do 15 godina te troje odraslih u 80-im godinama.
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Napadač iz Minneapolisa prikazao je političke i vjerske poruke u videima objavljenima u srijedu ujutro na računu povezanim s njim. Neke od poruka, koje su bile ispisane na vatrenom oružju, glasile su: ,,Gdje je tvoj Bog?", ,,Za djecu", ,,Ubij Donalda Trumpa" i ,,Why so Queerious?" U jednom videu napadač je također pokazao bilježnicu ispunjenu zapisima na više stranica. Načelnik policije Minneapolisa Brian O'Hara potvrdio je da je YouTube video prikazivao Westmanov manifest.
Tajnica za domovinsku sigurnost Kristi Noem rekla je u objavi na X-u: ,,Ovaj duboko poremećeni ubojica na spremnik puške naškrabao je riječi 'Za djecu', 'Gdje je tvoj Bog?'...
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za sve su krivi mediji
guraju te bolesne ljude u neku transgender ideologiju
a ne objasne im da kad postanu trangender ili promijene spol da će biti još više nesretniji
umjesto da se gura narativ IDI bre LEČI SE dok još nije kasno
KAD POSTANES TRANS i HRT gotovo je...manjina si i nećeš biti sretan
Ali, i sreća je izbor, baš kao i pol.
Izbareš da si srećan ili izabereš da si nesrećan. Nema to veze sa pripadnošću manjini ili većini, prosto je tako kako si izabrao.
Sad, možda oni koji biraju loš pol po tendenciji biraju i da budu nesrećni. Ali, to je zapravo samo slučajnost da se dva različita izbora poklope.
problem se krije u bandi koja se lazno predstavlja socijalnom, komunistickoj partiji pod raznim krinkama, a koja uvijek pokusava okupiti mentalno bolesne, glupe i naivne koje moze nahuskati na ljude. neki oblik satanizma.
mora se zastititi idiote i nezrelu djecu od upliva raznih satanista, sorosa, tite, raznih agentura arapskih diktatora i sl. koji ih zlorabe da bi stvarali kaos.
Hm, znači kad je neko rođen sa genetskom predispozicijom ka depresiji, on može prosto da odabere da bude srećan, umesto depresivan. Got it.
Upravo taj mora da izabere da bude srećan. Jer nema izbora. Nesreća će ga brzo sahraniti.
Ima i ono: klin se klinom izbija.
Sreća je stanje uma, ali um osobe sa kliničkom depresijom ne može da dostigne to stanje. Pričaš kao oni Silva prevaranti.
Volim što se u starom fašističkom maniru ovde u prvi plan gura to da je počinitelj/ka trans osoba a ne da se ložila na Andresa Brevika i Brentona Tarranta, dakle, dva čoveka koji su počinili zločine iz mržnje, pokretane ideologijama bele supremacije i antiimigantskom i antimuslimanskom panikom, da se ložila na belog separatistu Randyja Weavera itd. Plus, dnevnik je pisala ćirilicom, dakle, RUSKA ŠKOLA.
rusoturska skola, islamisticke podvale i bujanje, srbotursko drndanje, to je sve isto, kategorija sponzori. smaranje neopjevano.
od sponzora korumpirana struka je zakazala. i sluzbe, neke antiteroristicke, korumpirane.
zasto dijete nije bilo na lijecenju u umobolnici, a soros odavno na elektricnoj stolici?
DIJAGNOZA - Vukušić povukao paralelu između 'trans' ubojice iz SAD-a i nedavnog ubojstva u Zagrebu (https://narod.hr/hrvatska/vukusic-povukao-paralelu-izmedu-trans-ubojice-iz-sad-a-i-nedavnog-ubojstva-u-zagrebu)
QuotePsihijatar Herman Vukušić, koji godinama upozorava na štetnost rodne ideologije u kontekstu 'promjene spola' kao i činjenice da se u propagiranju iste zanemaruju postojeći mentalni komorbiditeti osobe koja želi 'promijeniti spol', osvrnuo se na ovotjednu pucnjavu u SAD-u. Počinitelj je 23-godišnji Robin Westman koji je otvorio vatru na učenike katoličke škole u Minneapolisu pri čemu je dvoje djece ubijeno, a 17 osoba je ozlijeđeno.
Westman je sa 17 godina tražio da mu se ime promijeni iz Robert u Robin i identificirao se kao žena. Da je upravo i to među motivima ovog zločina potvrđuje i pronalazak naljepnice u njegovom dnevniku koja prikazuje LGBTIQ zastave s pištoljem i natpisom 'ranimo jednakost'.
Na konferenciji za novinare, gradonačelnik Minneapolisa, demokrat Jacob Frey, pozvao je javnost da ne širi mržnju prema 'transrodnim' osobama. "Čuo sam puno mržnje usmjerene prema našoj trans zajednici. Svatko tko ovo koristi kao priliku za ocrnjivanje naše trans zajednice ili bilo koje druge zajednice izgubio je osjećaj za humanost", poručio je.
Vukušića je ova reakcija podsjetila na nedavnu reakciju predsjednika Hrvatskog novinarskog društva Hrvoja Zovka nakon ubojstva u Zagrebu kojeg je počinio muškarac koji se predstavljao kao žena.
"Tijela žrtava još se nisu niti ohladila, a gradonačelnik tog grada (inače ljevičar), već poziva da se "trans zajednicu zaštiti od javnih napada". Nešto poput notornog Hrvoja Zovka, čelnika kabale koja sebe zove "Hrvatsko novinarsko društvo", a koji je nakon klaonice u zagrebačkom klubu Medika korio sve one koji su inzistirali na tome da ubojica u tom slučaju nije biološka žena, već transrodna osoba.
Da podsjetim, u zadnjih dvije godine u SAD-u je bilo više pokolja u crkvenim školama i masovnih pucnjava gdje su se počinitelji deklarirali kao transrodne osobe, a u gotovo svakom od tih slučajeva je dokazan planski predumišljaj.
Svi oni koji zagovaraju tezu da dijagnoza "transrodnosti" a priori treba predstavljati nekakav štit od društvene i osobne odgovornosti rade veliku štetu upravo samim transrodnim osobama, odnosno svima onima koji uistinu pate od medicinskog stanja koje se zove rodna inkongruencija ili rodna disforija.
A takvih je osoba jako, jako, jako malo.
Stoga, najveću štetu transrodnoj zajednici u Hrvatskoj i svijetu čine upravo agresivni aktivisti, ideolozi, političari i kvaziznanstvenici koji pod kapu transrodnosti nekritički guraju i prihvaćaju osobe sa ozbiljnim duševnim tegobama kojima je transrodnost samo trenutni hir u njihovom višegodišnjem unutarnjem psihičkom nemiru.
I još se pri tome bune i negoduju kada medicina postavi upit vjerodostojnosti takvog stanja", napisao je Vukušić.
Quote from: mac on 28-08-2025, 15:40:29Sreća je stanje uma, ali um osobe sa kliničkom depresijom ne može da dostigne to stanje. Pričaš kao oni Silva prevaranti.
Zato što sam rekao da nema izbora?
Pa nema. Kliničko lečenje podrazumeva medikamente, u suštini zakonski se drogiraš i bude ti lepo, ali posle opet moraš da odlučiš za sreću ili uroniš opet u nesreću.
Čovek ne može dugo da trpi stanje nesreće, ubrzano propada i zdravstveno. Tek onda će mu biti teško da se odluči za sreću.
Enivej, Amerima ne treba niko da ih uništava, imaju RFK-a Juniora koji je iz nekog razloga (čovek je antivakserska budala) rešio da upropasti CDC:
CDC gets new acting director as leadership turmoil leaves agency reeling (https://apnews.com/article/cdc-monarez-fired-trump-kennedy-vaccines-science-17fd8a19064e39906bc0125fd81e3525)
Naravno, ovu tragediju u Mineapolisu koristi kao povod da se obruši na antidepreive:
RFK Jr. Finds Twisted Reason to Take Away Your Anti-Depression Meds (https://newrepublic.com/post/199726/rfk-jr-finds-twisted-reason-take-away-anti-depression-meds)
Quote"We're launching studies on the potential contribution of some of the [selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor] drugs, and some of the other psychiatric drugs that might be contributing to violence. You know, many of them have black box warnings that warn of suicidal ideation and homicidal ideation," Kennedy replied.
As head of the Department of Health and Human Services, Kennedy has suggested that the people who take antidepressants—some 11 percent of the population—are more likely to become school shooters. In January, Kennedy said that the National Institutes of Health needed to study SSRIs and video games as potential causes of increased gun violence, dismissing actual guns as a potential cause.
One 2015 study published by the National Library of Medicine, which is run by the NIH, found that "antidepressants should not be denied to either adults or adolescents due to a presumed risk of homicidal behavior."
Minnesota Senator Tina Smith slammed Kennedy's comments in a post on X Thursday.
"I dare you to go to Annunciation School and tell our grieving community, in effect, guns don't kill kids, antidepressants do," she wrote. "Just shut up. Stop peddling bullshit. You should be fired."
prečesto ti transdzenderi krenu pucat
možda da ih se ne gura u tu tranziciju kroz medije i demokratsku sektu
nego da im se pomogne psihicki
pa da! realno vecina njih nema relevantnu, izrazeno manifestiranu rodnu disforiju, vec jednostavno prolaze pubertet, sa svim ljepotama koje idu uz to, i trebaju tek malo pomoci.
a mi smo ih ostavili, prepustili partiji i mehi da ih zlorabe, i konacno iskasape sebe i/ili druge u "sluzbi" jebene "revolucije" iliti pri osvajanju vlasti zlocudne teroristicke partije.
Ja ih krstim oni prde!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Truba on 29-08-2025, 10:48:15prečesto ti transdzenderi krenu pucat
možda da ih se ne gura u tu tranziciju kroz medije i demokratsku sektu
nego da im se pomogne psihicki
Па мислим, у каквом стању мозга мораш бит па да себи отфикариш знаш-већ-шта, уопште ми није необично да таква особа узме пуцу и почне да роштиља около.
O bože....
:evil: :evil:
Da sam zensko svima bih davo
Naporno je to...
Pošto ih ne ubijaju dovoljno brzo u rendom skul šutinzima, smišljen je novi plan za eliminaciju američke dece koja će, uostalom, ionako sva izrasti da budu slepi sledbenici satanske woke agande. Dodatni benefit ovog plana je da će biti eliminisana i većina starijih osoba, osoba sa invaliditetom, osoba sa hroničnim bolestima itd. pa će američka nacija da se zanovi i svede na zdrave ljude srednjih godina koji će decu moći da prave ali će samo najsnažnija da preživljavaju:
Florida Moves to End Vaccine Mandates for Schoolchildren (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/03/us/florida-vaccine-mandates.html)
Darvinova nagrada ove godine ide celoj državi...
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 04-09-2025, 13:08:48Pošto ih ne ubijaju dovoljno brzo u rendom skul šutinzima, smišljen je novi plan za eliminaciju američke dece koja će, uostalom, ionako sva izrasti da budu slepi sledbenici satanske woke agande. Dodatni benefit ovog plana je da će biti eliminisana i većina starijih osoba, osoba sa invaliditetom, osoba sa hroničnim bolestima itd. pa će američka nacija da se zanovi i svede na zdrave ljude srednjih godina koji će decu moći da prave ali će samo najsnažnija da preživljavaju:
Florida Moves to End Vaccine Mandates for Schoolchildren (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/03/us/florida-vaccine-mandates.html)
Video sam to. Neverovatno koliko je to u isto vreme napredna i nazadna država. Od NASA i Microsofta do ovih retarda.
The plot sickens:
Vaccine furor as angry senators hit RFK Jr. over CDC chaos: live updates (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/09/04/rfk-jr-testifies-senate-committee-live-updates/85954704007/)
Ленд ов д фри енд хоум ов д брејв
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/details-from-a-failed-us-special-forces-mission-revealed/ss-AA1Mf6m2
https://www.blic.rs/vesti/svet/ovo-je-trenutak-kada-je-carli-kirk-upucan-u-vrat-krv-sikljala-na-sve-strane/jslhz2k
au, jeste da je smarač al ga baš udesiše
Lik bukvalno rekao da mora da se prihvati nekoliko ubistava godišnje kako bi se branio drugi amandman i druga bogom dana prava, tako da eto.
Чарли је био млад и будаласт. То није разлог да се неком жели смрт.
Daleko od toga da želim bilo kome smrt, samo kažem da kada je spominjao tih nekoliko ubistava godišnje koje treba prihvatiti verovatno nije računao da će on ući u tu statistiku.
Crni humor krenuo maltene pre ponoći po mrežama, jedva se oladio. Nije on bio baš značajan, ali se mnogo sada zakuvalo. Dugin poslovično najavljuje građanski rat u Americi (https://www.multipolarpress.com/p/charlie-kirks-death-and-the-coming-civil-war?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=email), mada svakako ovo će imati neke reakcije.
Одличан Дугинов текст.
tuga je koliko tolerantna ljevica slavi smrt
Quote from: Truba on 11-09-2025, 12:40:40tuga je koliko tolerantna ljevica slavi smrt
Da, evo
Charlie Kirk's Murder Is a Tragedy and a Disaster (https://jacobin.com/2025/09/charlie-kirk-murder-political-violence)
QuoteCharlie Kirk has never received a warm welcome in the pages of this magazine. It doesn't matter now. The assassination of Kirk is a tragedy. Morally, it is unjustifiable. Politically, it is cause for serious alarm. A larger spiral into political violence would be a catastrophe for the Left.
Dva demokratska državna senatora su ubijena u junu. Ovo nije gotovo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators
realno je samo bitno da ne ubijaju ljude. a nistkoristi influensera, aktivista, umjetnika i senatora svih boja ima i previse...
Сјајан говор Стивена А. Смита
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8QQTea3-qs
Kad smo već kod levice, čovek koji je priznao da je ubio Charlieja Kirka je (proveravam beleške):
beli, heteroseksualni hrišćanin:
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c206zm81z4gt
Nije ni u jednoj stranci ali ćale mu je bio pandur (i pop, izgleda) i familija generalno glasa za republikance...
Edit: takođe, bio je gejmer, urezao referencu na Helldivers 2 na pušku.
Atentatori su po pravilu belci, hrišćani i heteroseksualci.
I desničari ali to valjda treba da se ponavlja jer, jelte... Videti naslovne strane svih režimskih novina u Srbiji danas.
pa i potpirije osobno se formalno naziva hriscanom. kao da to nesto znaci.
Uhićen je osumnjičeni za Kirkovo ubojstvo: Na mecima pisalo 'hej fašistu' i 'bella ciao' (https://narod.hr/eu-svijet/trump-potvrdio-uhicen-je-osumnjiceni-za-kirkovo-ubojstvo)
u biti, ako, mogao bi proci kao jugonacista. jugonacisti imaju taj obicaj predstavljati se kao nekakva ljevica.
Не видим ђе пише да је био хришћанин?
Quote from: Truman on 12-09-2025, 20:48:46Atentatori su po pravilu belci, hrišćani i heteroseksualci.
Source: Dude, trust me.
Манијак који је заклао ону Украјинку је вјероватно такође био "бијелац, хришћанин и хетеросексуалац".
(https://i.ibb.co/qY4fWWnW/Foto-Jet-74.jpg)
Afroamerikanac ubio Ukrajinku, mediji danima šutjeli (https://narod.hr/eu-svijet/stravican-zlocin-razbjesnio-amerikance-afroamerikanac-ubio-ukrajinku-mediji-danima-sutjeli)
QuoteSnimke objavljene na društvenim mrežama pokazuju 23-godišnju Ukrajinku Irynu Zarutsku kako nakon posla ulazi u vlak u Sjevernoj Karolini i sjeda ispred svog napadača. Prema snimkama, Zarutska s napadačem nije komunicirala ni na koji način. Iz čista mira 34-godišnji Afroamerikanac Decarlos Brown Jr. izvadio je nož i s leđa izbo Zarutsku.
Možda inicijacija u bandu. Moraš da ubiješ nekog da bi dokazao pripadnost. Ili mentalno poremećen.
Ne vidim kako je bitno što je ubica crnac, a žrtva belkinja.
beskucnik, mentalno poremecen. leftardi i razni idioti bi sad konstruirali zrtvu bijelog covjeka sa privilegije, bla, nije imao sanse, bla, itd. kako vec sponzori nalazu, nebitno.
a vrlo bitno je naglasiti da je crnac; ja bih cak pisao crna zivotinja. vrlo je bitno cisto iz zajebancije, jer je nekorektno, jer ne ide uz narativ koji partija namece idiotima. crna retardirana nadrogirana smrdljiva zivotinja zaklala curu. mislim, sta fali opisu.
Quote from: Tex Murphy on 13-09-2025, 12:25:41Не видим ђе пише да је био хришћанин?
Otac i majka mormoni.
znaci slicna prica kao i u marxovih roditelja.
Quote from: Tex Murphy on 13-09-2025, 12:31:09Манијак који је заклао ону Украјинку је вјероватно такође био "бијелац, хришћанин и хетеросексуалац".
Kakve veze paranoidna šizofrenija ima sa rasom pacijenta? I kakve veze to ubistvo u metrou ima sa političkim atentatom?
Truman baca bombe istine.
Po onome što sad znamo, ovaj glavni osumnjičeni za ubistvo Čarlkija Kirka je bio radikalizovna od stran vrlo ekstremne desne ekipe koja je smatrala Kirka konzervativcem-pozerom i godinama unazad imala konverzaciju oko toga da neko treba da dođe na neki od njegovih iventa i da ga izroka...
Naravno, glavni osumnjičeni je verovatno neko koga bismo smatrali mentalno nestabilnim.
Quote from: Truman on 13-09-2025, 18:35:25Quote from: Tex Murphy on 13-09-2025, 12:31:09Манијак који је заклао ону Украјинку је вјероватно такође био "бијелац, хришћанин и хетеросексуалац".
Kakve veze paranoidna šizofrenija ima sa rasom pacijenta? I kakve veze to ubistvo u metrou ima sa političkim atentatom?
О којем политичком атентату говориш?
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 13-09-2025, 20:08:31Po onome što sad znamo, ovaj glavni osumnjičeni za ubistvo Čarlkija Kirka je bio radikalizovna od stran vrlo ekstremne desne ekipe koja je smatrala Kirka konzervativcem-pozerom i godinama unazad imala konverzaciju oko toga da neko treba da dođe na neki od njegovih iventa i da ga izroka...
Марк Дајс врло детаљно образлаже зашто ово није истина
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq5_j9X79eg
Мислим, довољно је погледати друштвене мреже и сличне ствари и видјети ко се све радује овом убиству. Хинт: нису конзервативци.
Quote from: Tex Murphy on 13-09-2025, 20:12:22Quote from: Truman on 13-09-2025, 18:35:25Quote from: Tex Murphy on 13-09-2025, 12:31:09Манијак који је заклао ону Украјинку је вјероватно такође био "бијелац, хришћанин и хетеросексуалац".
Kakve veze paranoidna šizofrenija ima sa rasom pacijenta? I kakve veze to ubistvo u metrou ima sa političkim atentatom?
О којем политичком атентату говориш?
Ti si u jednoj rečenci spomenuo ubistvo Ukrajinke i tog konzervativca Krika (za kog pre atentata nisam ni čuo pa neću komentarisati njegovu politiku).
Meho, kad je reč o ubistvu u metrou dotični ludak je pričao da ju je ubio jer se uplašio da mu ona čita misli. Dakle, čist primer paranoje/paranoidne šizofrenije. Samim tim je besmisleno to stavljati u isti koš sa gorespomenutim političkim ubistvom ili podvlačiti neku rasnu komponentu. I naravno, krelac Trump se odmah javio da kaže kako taj mentalni bolesnik zaslužuje smrtnu kaznu a nije mu palo na pamet da je rešenje u prevenciji i držanju takvih u ustanovama zatvorenog tipa jer za to moraju da se daju pare, a znamo da dotični ne voli da daje pare za narodne potrebe.
QuoteI naravno, krelac Trump se odmah javio da kaže kako taj mentalni bolesnik zaslužuje smrtnu kaznu a nije mu palo na pamet da je rešenje u prevenciji i držanju takvih u ustanovama zatvorenog tipa jer za to moraju da se daju pare, a znamo da dotični ne voli da daje pare za narodne potrebe.
Ааааах, да, потпуно несвјесно си убо у срж проблема. ЗАШТО дотични није већ био у установи затвореног типа кад се има у виду да је претходно хапшен 14 пута и да је његова ментална болест била већ позната властима?
Што се тиче тога какве сад све ово има везе са било чим, да се кратко подсјетимо хронологије у посљедњих неколико коментара. Прво је Мехо написао да је дотични "бијели хетеросексуални хришћанин", а из чега би, на основу контекста, требало да закључимо да није љевичар, што је, под бр. 1 комплетан non-sequitur (постоје бијели хетеросексуални хришћани који су, да их тако назовемо, "љевичари", тј. оно што се данас углавном под тим термином подразумијева - очигледан примјер је Мајкл Мур), а под бр. 2 ти сами подаци су најблаже речено ВРЛО упитни. Бијелац јесте и то је једино што се сигурно зна. Не знам да ли се зна ишта о његовим романтичним везама па да можемо да закључимо о његовој сексуалној оријентацији, али чак и да можемо, велико је питање какве до ђавола везе има сексуална оријентација са било чим у овој причи. Чак и да јесте хетеросексуалан, то нам не говори апсолутно ништа, јер је огромна већина људи хетеросексуална. Такође је врло упитно да ли је хришћанин. Истина је да је одрастао у хришћанском дому, али то апсолутно ништа не имплицира о његовим тренутним вјеровањима. Такође, родитељи су му републиканци, али он сам није, или барем није гласао за њих (тј. није гласао за било кога).
Након тога си се ти надовезао са својом потпуно произвољном тврдњом како су "атентатори углавном бијелци, хетеросексуалци и хришћани", што, дакле, под бр. 1, опет нема апсолутно никакве везе ни са чим, чак и да је тачно, а ионако појма благог немамо да ли је тачно јер нас ниси упутио ни на какво истраживање које би тако нешто поткријепило.
Е сад, њушећи из таквих коментара одређену врсту анти-бијелохетеросексуалнохришћанског сентимента, одлучио сам, као бијели хетеросексуални конзервативни хришћанин, да моментално реагујем и распршим дотични... не знам тачно шта, пошто немамо ријечи за то. Наиме, бијели хетеросексуални хришћани су једина група по којој у медијима може потпуно слободно да се оплете, а да за то не постоји назив. Ако се шалите, нпр., са хомосексуалцима, онда сте хомофоб, ако са муслиманима, онда сте исламофоб, ако са транссексуалцима, онда сте трансфоб, са Јеврејима - антисемита, са црнцима и осталима - расиста, итд. итд. итд. Углавном, поента је, немојте да постављате произвољне шпекулације са анти-бијелохетеросексуалнохришћанским импликацијама и одлично ћемо да се слажемо.
Za prvi pasus se slažem, demokrate isto snose krivicu što ludake ne drže u ludnicama. Jedino što Trump dodatno iritira svojim seljačkim autoritarnim kretenizmom. Gospodin bi to sve "po kratkom postupku", al ne bi da ulaže u prevenciju.
Što se ostalog tiče...ostaje činjenica da su politički atentatori po pravilu tih karakteristika koje sam naveo (kao i serijske ubice što je isto vrlo zanimljiv fenomen koji je izučavan). Sa druge strane, paranoidna šizofrenija nije koliko znam zastupljena posebno više kod ovih ili onih.
QuoteJedino što Trump dodatno iritira svojim seljačkim autoritarnim kretenizmom. Gospodin bi to sve "po kratkom postupku", al ne bi da ulaže u prevenciju.
Ово не спорим. То је његов начин рјешавања буквално сваког проблема, од криминала на америчким улицама до ратова на Блиском истоку.
QuoteŠto se ostalog tiče...ostaje činjenica da su politički atentatori po pravilu tih karakteristika koje sam naveo (kao i serijske ubice što je isto vrlo zanimljiv fenomen koji je izučavan).
Хм, што се серијских убица тиче, чини ми се да су стварно сви бијелци (бар од ових за које сам ја чуо), али ако се не варам било је међу њима неких са другачијим сексуалним склоностима. Наравно, оно што треба да се упореди јесу проценти тих карактеристика међу серијским убицама и међу општом популацијом и да се види постоје ли нека значајнија одступања.
Хетеросексуалност убице Чарлија Кирка ис он д лајн! Апарентли, имао је цимера који је био у процесу "транзиције" (тј. хтио је да постане Лорета, мада није јасно докле је стигао с тим и да ли је уопште и кренуо са одговарајућом процедуром) и по неким извјештајима били су у вези, мада различити сајтови ово преносе на различите начине и ништа од тога није сигурно док се не открије више. Такође, иако се раније писало да је убицу пријавио отац, сад спомињу да је то заправо урадио овај лик цимер.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trans-roommate-tyler-james-robinson-213501931.html?guccounter=1
Ubojica Charliea Kirka je živio s 'transrodnim' partnerom (https://narod.hr/eu-svijet/ubojica-charliea-kirka-je-zivio-s-transrodnim-partnerom)
QuoteUbojica Charlieja Kirka živio je sa svojim "transrodnim" partnerom, potvrdili su visoki dužnosnici FBI-a.
Prema FBI-u, Tyler Robinson (22) bio je u "romantičnoj vezi" s osobom koja je muškarac u procesu "tranzicije u ženu". Zajedno su stanovali u Saint Georgeu u saveznoj državi Utah.
(...)
nesto novo.
nesto mislim, ovo stvarno nije fer. tek sto se stvar iz woke-ugla ublazi, prica ocajnicki nategne i pomalo skrene ka konzervativcima u negativnom smislu, bar ih se ubaci, vec iskoci i neki "transrodni" ludak i unisti sav trud.
bilo bi krajnje vrijeme da zareda i koja vijest kako neki ekstremni desnicar (pravi) pocinio kakav kapitalni zlocin u tom smislu.
meho, ako nastavi ovaj niz, pozicija koju pokusavas obraniti postaje bas, bas potpuno neobranjiva. cak je i truki aktualno dosao do fenomenalnog zakljucka da smo ludacima duzni terapiju i brigu, ne poticaj da ludilo njeguju, potenciraju i izzive do sunovrata sebe, drugih i drzave koja im subvencionira ludilo...
razbjezat ce vam se ovako sve ovcice.
Pogledajte viralni video: Kako je Kirk definirao prijetnje kršćanskoj civilizaciji (https://narod.hr/vjera-i-kultura/pogledajte-viralni-video-kako-je-kirk-definirao-prijetnje-krscanskoj-civilizaciji)
QuoteUbijeni konzervativni i kršćanski aktivist Charlie Kirk nije skrivao svoju vjeru niti se sramio javno svjedočiti za Isusa Krista. Društvenim mrežama sada se širi i naveliko dijeli njegov govor o američkom načinu života, ulozi kršćanstva u zapadnoj civilizaciji i što ju trenutačno ugrožava.
,,Duhovna bitka dolazi na Zapad, a neprijatelji su wokizam ili marksizam u sprezi s islamizmom", ustvrdio je Kirk.
Ta dva neprijatelja obrušila su se na ono što se naziva američkim načinom života, rekao je. Potom je objasnio ono što je nazvao jednostavnom definicijom američkog načina života: ,,Želim se vjenčati, kupiti dom, imati djecu, pustiti ih da voze bicikl cijeli dan, poslati ih u dobru školu i živjeti u susjedstvu s niskom stopom kriminala. Ne želim da mi djeca uče LGBT i transrodno smeće i propagandu u školi", na što je publika zapljeskala.
Zatim je nastavio: ,,Također, ne želim da slušaju muslimanski poziv na molitvu pet puta na dan. To je bitno! Želimo američki način života koji je zapravo – kršćanstvo", direktan je bio Kirk.
Upravo su kršćanstvo i Biblija stvorili Zapadnu civilizaciju u kojoj živimo, kazao je. Upravo se oko kršćanstva svi možemo okupiti, bijelci, crnci, Latinoamerikanci, Azijci: ,,Ako ste kršćani i Isus Krist vam je spasitelj, ove dvije prijetnje se udružuju protiv nas i vrijeme je da i Crkva ustane protiv toga", zaključuje Kirk.
ali sumnjam da bi bio dosao u srbiju i istupio izjavom da je spc obicna satanisticka sekta koja se krije iza pojma krscanstva. razumijem zelju za zbijanjem redova u krscana, ali to nisu krscani. ozbiljan covjek ne smije nasjesti na bizantizam.
SEDAM GODINA MASAKRA - 'Trans', nebinarni, antife... ovo su profili masovnih ubojica iz SAD-a (https://narod.hr/eu-svijet/trans-nebinarni-antife-ovo-su-profili-masovnih-ubojica-iz-sad-a)
a-ha!
Ezra Klajn priča sa Benom Šapirom o Čarliju Kirku. Rečenica koju nisam očekivao. Nisam pogledao dijalog, ali već sam naslov i učesnici obećavaju.
We Are Going to Have to Live Here With Each Other (https://youtu.be/EAqG00FUOK8)
Пффффф, ето ти га сад, мислио сам да их знам све, али појма благог немам ко је Езра Клајн :-(
Demokratski novinar koji je kritikovao demokratski vrh, pa zato više nije u novinarstvu nego u "podkastvu". Ima zanimljive goste, ali ne baš često sa desne strane spektra. EDIT: ne znam odakle mi ove tvrdnje. Gledam sad njegov članak na vikipediji, i ništa tome slično se ne spominje. Možda sam ga pomešao s nekim drugim, ali nemam pojma s kim.
Ovde zapravo nisu uopšte razgovarali o Čarliju Kirku. Ezra ga je samo spomenuo jer pogibe čovek pošto je epizoda već snimljena. Ali možemo da pratimo epizodu i imajući u vidu taj atentat. Šapiro stalno priča "opasno je to što rade" u smislu ne sviđa mu se kako demokrate koriste vlast.
Srećom, znamo da je Ben Šapiro bukvalno imbecil pa ne moramo da obraćamo mnogo pažnje na to što priča.
Ne znam mu IQ, ali moram da verujem Ezri Klajnu kad bira goste.
Čovek je imbecil.
Podsetimo se kad ga je intervjuisao Andrew Neil koji mu kaže da je bukvalno tog jutra čuo za njega i onda ga ispoklapa bez praktično imalo zlovolje:
https://youtu.be/6VixqvOcK8E
Шапиро је имбецил без сумње, али ни дотични Нил није баш нека славна личност.
Što još gorom čini razmenu u kojoj Šapiro - vidno besan - kaže da mu je sasvim jasno da je ovaj rešio da ga ponizi pred gledaocima jer je to slavni Ben Šapiro i to je neka vrsta trofeja a ovaj mu odgovara da do jutros nikada nije čuo za njega.
Enivej, asasinacija Čarlija Kirka je fino poslužila da se podsetimo koliko je dugo "konzervativni" deo SAD negodovao što "liberalni" poseže za "kenslovanjem" kad nemaju pravi politički, jelte, argument, a onda kad se njima namestio volej oni su u fazonu, hold maj bir da ti pokažem kako se STVARNO kensluje. Džimi Kimel, recimo, uklonjen iz etra iako je on rekao ovo:
Quote"The MAGA Gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said. "In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving."
Dakle, možda pogrešno (možda i ne, još ne znamo), ali čak ne ni neukusno. Al eto:
'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' pulled off air 'indefinitely' by ABC over Charlie Kirk shooting comments (https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/article/jimmy-kimmel-live-pulled-off-air-indefinitely-by-abc-over-charlie-kirk-shooting-comments-235240704.html)
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 18-09-2025, 06:47:18Što još gorom čini razmenu u kojoj Šapiro - vidno besan - kaže da mu je sasvim jasno da je ovaj rešio da ga ponizi pred gledaocima jer je to slavni Ben Šapiro i to je neka vrsta trofeja a ovaj mu odgovara da do jutros nikada nije čuo za njega.
Нисам добро коментарисао. Нисам мислио на Нилове новинарске квалитете, него на подржавање разноразних ратова, што га чини донекле сличним Шапиру, али то наравно нема везе са овим интервјуом. Нема никакве сумње да је ту Шапиро испао потпуни идиот.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 18-09-2025, 08:48:48Enivej, asasinacija Čarlija Kirka je fino poslužila da se podsetimo koliko je dugo "konzervativni" deo SAD negodovao što "liberalni" poseže za "kenslovanjem" kad nemaju pravi politički, jelte, argument, a onda kad se njima namestio volej oni su u fazonu, hold maj bir da ti pokažem kako se STVARNO kensluje. Džimi Kimel, recimo, uklonjen iz etra iako je on rekao ovo:
Quote"The MAGA Gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said. "In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving."
Dakle, možda pogrešno (možda i ne, još ne znamo), ali čak ne ni neukusno. Al eto:
'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' pulled off air 'indefinitely' by ABC over Charlie Kirk shooting comments (https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/article/jimmy-kimmel-live-pulled-off-air-indefinitely-by-abc-over-charlie-kirk-shooting-comments-235240704.html)
Па не, Кимел је масно слагао. Постоје поруке које је пуцач писао свом момку, постоје свједочења блиских чланова породице о његовим политичким ставовима, поруке на кутији за муницију и сл. Не, дефинитивно није био "један од њих". Да ли је због тога (Кимел) требало да изгуби посао? Као фри спич апсолутиста, то не подржавам, али ит из вот ит из.
https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/gradonacelnica-las-vegasa-dragi-kanadjani-i-meksikanci-molim-vas-vratite-se/2710912.aspx?index_ref=naslovnica_vijesti_ostalo_d_0
Trumpova politika ugrožava i meni dragi Las Vegas.
О, не, не Лас Вегас!!!
Imam davne uspomene odatle i hteo bih opet da ga posetim ali kako ću kad ga Trump uništava.
Quote from: Truman on 18-09-2025, 15:07:30Imam davne uspomene odatle i hteo bih opet da ga posetim ali kako ću kad ga Trump uništava.
Ааааа, био си тамо? Респект.
Quote from: Tex Murphy on 18-09-2025, 11:44:53Quote from: Meho Krljic on 18-09-2025, 08:48:48Enivej, asasinacija Čarlija Kirka je fino poslužila da se podsetimo koliko je dugo "konzervativni" deo SAD negodovao što "liberalni" poseže za "kenslovanjem" kad nemaju pravi politički, jelte, argument, a onda kad se njima namestio volej oni su u fazonu, hold maj bir da ti pokažem kako se STVARNO kensluje. Džimi Kimel, recimo, uklonjen iz etra iako je on rekao ovo:
Quote"The MAGA Gang [is] desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel said. "In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving."
Dakle, možda pogrešno (možda i ne, još ne znamo), ali čak ne ni neukusno. Al eto:
'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' pulled off air 'indefinitely' by ABC over Charlie Kirk shooting comments (https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/article/jimmy-kimmel-live-pulled-off-air-indefinitely-by-abc-over-charlie-kirk-shooting-comments-235240704.html)
Па не, Кимел је масно слагао. Постоје поруке које је пуцач писао свом момку, постоје свједочења блиских чланова породице о његовим политичким ставовима, поруке на кутији за муницију и сл. Не, дефинитивно није био "један од њих". Да ли је због тога (Кимел) требало да изгуби посао? Као фри спич апсолутиста, то не подржавам, али ит из вот ит из.
Eto, sve se slažemo.
Quote from: Tex Murphy on 18-09-2025, 11:34:58Quote from: Meho Krljic on 18-09-2025, 06:47:18Što još gorom čini razmenu u kojoj Šapiro - vidno besan - kaže da mu je sasvim jasno da je ovaj rešio da ga ponizi pred gledaocima jer je to slavni Ben Šapiro i to je neka vrsta trofeja a ovaj mu odgovara da do jutros nikada nije čuo za njega.
Нисам добро коментарисао. Нисам мислио на Нилове новинарске квалитете, него на подржавање разноразних ратова, што га чини донекле сличним Шапиру, али то наравно нема везе са овим интервјуом. Нема никакве сумње да је ту Шапиро испао потпуни идиот.
Da, da, ovo je conservative on conservative violence, ali je slatko da ovaj u životu nije čuo za Šapira koji tripuje da je neko mudo. Dakle, imbecil.
Struka, se, jelte, oglašava, stidljivo, ali ipak:
'No evidence' found yet of ties between Charlie Kirk's shooting and left-wing groups, officials say (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/no-evidence-charlie-kirk-shooting-left-wing-groups-rcna232513)
The comforting fiction that Charlie Kirk's killer was far-right (https://www.vox.com/politics/462173/charlie-kirk-killer-motive-tyler-robinson-jimmy-kimmel)
QuoteThere is a deep human impulse to whittle reality down into familiar and self-flattering fairy tales.
We all gravitate toward information that validates our preconceptions and vindicates our in-groups. It is cognitively taxing to revise one's model of the world. And it is emotionally uncomfortable to recognize fault in our allies or merit in our adversaries. So, we are all tempted to sand the jagged edges off events until they fit into ideologically convenient frames.
If this impulse is universal, however, liberals (such as myself) like to believe that we are less vulnerable to it. After all, we are the side that favors scientific inquiry over religious fundamentalism, universalism over ethnocentrism, and critical accounts of American history over jingoistic ones.
Conservatives, by contrast, often recoil at moral complexity. And their leadership is unbound by any sense of fealty to the truth. Or so the progressive historian Heather Cox Richardson suggested, in a recent Substack post.
In Richardson's account, McCarthyism taught the American right the political utility of shameless lies. By crafting mendacious and simplistic "us" versus "them" narratives — and repeating them ceaselessly — conservatives found that they could "construct a fictional world," which many voters would unknowingly come to inhabit. Liberals in the "reality-based community" — to use a phrase made famous by the George W. Bush administration — might feel compelled to align their claims with discernible facts. But the American right, feels no such obligation.
As an example of conservatives' mendacity, Richardson cites the Trump administration's attempt to pin Charlie Kirk's assassination on the left. And not without reason: The White House's brazenly dishonest propaganda about that tragedy does much to support Richardson's portrait of the right.
And yet, shortly after decrying the GOP's privileging of "narrative" over "facts," Richardson wrote the following:
n fact, the alleged shooter was not someone on the left. The alleged killer, Tyler Robinson, is a young white man from a Republican, gun enthusiast family, who appears to have embraced the far right, disliking Kirk for being insufficiently radical. Rather than grappling with reality, right-wing figures are using Kirk's murder to prop up their fictional world.
Richardson's post in fact deftly illustrates the hazards of tribalistic thinking and epistemic immodesty, just not quite in the manner that it intended.
When Richardson published her column on September 13, there was no sound basis for asserting that Robinson was "not someone on the left," much less that he was a far-right extremist who'd killed Kirk for being inadequately reactionary. And charging documents released Tuesday indicate that Richardson's narrative was false.
Nevertheless, that narrative was briefly pervasive within social media's left-wing corners. In fact, the idea that Robinson was a proven reactionary became so widespread among liberals that ABC's late-night host Jimmy Kimmel (apparently) felt safe paying it lip service on Monday.
Even after Tuesday's revelations, a few left-wing influencers continued promoting the idea that Robinson opposed Kirk from the right, explaining away evidence to the contrary with conspiracy theories.
The left's embrace of comforting fictions about Kirk's assassination is understandable. But it is also irresponsible and politically self-defeating. To truly inhabit the "reality-based community," progressives must not merely spotlight the right's fantasies, but stand more watchful guard against our own.
What we know about Tyler Robinson's motive
On Tuesday, authorities in Utah filed charges against Tyler Robinson for aggravated murder. Three pieces of evidence in the indictment suggest that Robinson objected to Kirk's politics from the left:
Robinson's mother told investigators that her son "had become more political and had started to lean more to the left — becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented." His mother also said that he had begun "to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders."
Robinson had texted a confession to his roommate after the shooting, referring to the roommate as "my love" and saying of Kirk, "I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out."
Robinson's parents told investigators that he had explained his crime to them in similar terms, saying that Kirk "spreads too much hate."
The indictment is not the last word on Robinson's motivations (or, for that matter, his guilt). But nothing in the assembled evidence supports the narrative that Robinson was far-right.
How many progressives came to believe that Robinson was a "groyper"
It isn't hard to understand why progressives found it plausible that Robinson was a reactionary extremist. The alleged killer engraved his bullet casings with references to a bizarre array of memes, including one that mocks so-called furries (adults who dress up in animal costumes during sexual encounters), and another that informed observers, "If you read this, you are gay LMAO."
These etchings recalled the nihilistic, anti-LGBT trolling often found on the extremely online right. And Charlie Kirk had his reactionary enemies: The white nationalist podcaster Nick Fuentes's fandom — a community known as "groypers" — had declared a war on Kirk's organization, Turning Point USA, for failing to uphold Fuentes's explicitly racist vision of America First.
From the beginning, there were reasons to doubt that Robinson was a rightist. Most obviously, Kirk earned far more enmity from the left than the right. And one of Robinson's bullet casings read, "Hey, fascist! Catch" (though, this could be dismissed as an arbitrary video game reference).
The moment we deem ourselves immune to ideological chauvinism and unreason, we become more vulnerable to both.
Given this initial collection of facts, progressives had cause for entertaining the idea that Robinson was a white nationalist, but none for asserting it as an established fact.
If the "groyper" theory lacked a solid factual basis, however, it offered considerable psychological appeal. It is uncomfortable to accept that you share a worldview — or even, a few strong moral convictions — with perpetrators of terrible crimes. To avoid such discomfort, people often latch onto improbable narratives. To absolve MAGA of January 6's mayhem, many conservatives embraced the theory that the riot was orchestrated by antifa (and/or the FBI). To avoid grappling with atrocities committed in the name of a cause they supported, some on the far-left decided that the October 7 attacks were a false-flag operation. To deny Israel's inhuman crimes against the people of Gaza, its defenders tell themselves stories that attribute all culpability for the Jewish state's violence to its enemies.
I think some progressives' misplaced confidence in Robinson's conservatism was rooted in a similar impulse (which is not to say that hasty assumptions about a killer's motives are morally comparable to apologetics for genocidal violence). And the psychic appeal of the "groyper" theory enabled it to become common sense among substantial portion of progressives, such that the writers of Jimmy Kimmel Live! evidently felt comfortable insinuating that Robinson was a conservative.
Trump wants to have a fight about Robinson's motive
In the wake of Tuesday's indictment, many progressives have abandoned the notion that Kirk was killed for being insufficiently racist (on Wednesday, Richardson retreated to the claim that Robinson's motive "remains unclear").
But a few on the left have tried to salvage the "groyper" theory, in part by questioning the authenticity of Robinson's text exchanges with his roommate.
Such conspiracism is not just intellectually bankrupt, but politically self-defeating.
The Trump administration wants to use Kirk's killing as an excuse for cracking down on progressive dissent. Its argument for that assault on free expression includes one apparent truth (that Kirk's killer shared some of the left's objections to his work) and a whole host of claims that are either blatantly false or wholly unproven (that Robinson was affiliated with progressive organizations, that political violence in America comes exclusively from the left, that the Federal Communications Commission has the legal authority to police the offhanded remarks of comedians).
It is therefore in the administration's interest to focus public debate on Robinson's apparent motive. That is the subject they want to fight about — which is why they tried to get Jimmy Kimmel fired for his misguided intervention into that argument.
Progressives must not get baited into a losing fight. We don't need to deny the facts about Kirk's killing to refute the administration's broader narrative about that tragedy. Whatever Robinson's motive, the left is responsible for a small minority of political violence in the United States in recent decades. And there is no evidence that Kirk's alleged killer belonged to any organized progressive group, much less that his violence was directly abetted by the liberal foundations that the Trump administration has promised to destroy. On every point that actually has bearing on the policy response to Kirk's death, the facts are on progressives' side. We should focus on those realities.
More broadly, liberals must strive to avoid further lapses of epistemic humility in the future. In my view, the broad left is correct to believe that it has more respect for empirical truth — and comfort with moral ambiguity — than the right does. But this advantage is strictly relative. And the moment we deem ourselves immune to ideological chauvinism and unreason, we become more vulnerable to both.
Plot twist:
'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' to return to the air Tuesday after suspension for Charlie Kirk comments, ABC says (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tv/article/jimmy-kimmel-live-to-return-to-the-air-tuesday-after-suspension-for-charlie-kirk-comments-abc-says-195436080.html)
Saće Tramp da pizdi... sem ako...
DESIGNATING ANTIFA AS A DOMESTIC TERRORIST ORGANIZATION (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/designating-antifa-as-a-domestic-terrorist-organization/)
Oh... Dok su svi gledali na drugu stranu, Antifa, koja nije ni organizacija niti se zaista može povezati sa terorizmom u nekom ozbuljnoim smislu, je zvanično proglašena terorističkom. Gledati šta radi narandžasti ćaci i čekati da naši to prekopiraju.
Amerika je demokratija sa greškom za razliku od Srbije koja je nedemokratija. Ima nade za Ameriku.
Ali ne i za nas.
Mislim, kad Nizozemska od svih evropskih zemalja prva hoće da takođe klasifikuje antifašističke akcije kao terorističke prilično se brinem da im je legalizacija THC-a nanela nepopravljive intelektualne, jelte, ozlede.
Naravno da za nas nema nade. Samo pogledati koga podržavaju srpske dijaspore širom sveta. Nimalo se nisu demokratizovali. To ti je primer epigenetike. :cry:
Ne znam to za Holandiju, nisam u toku. Vidim da prete da će da bojkotuju Eurosong zbog Izraela, tu im skidam kapu.
Evo ti
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-netherlands-did-not-213812860.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACO-QNAFqUrvaKfEQuuqPEZ7AJ5s8awDKruDVRzZVHDIECQ3Ot4HXTgPyEfbNCCRwVomZBuUR9CaqniwNVOhOe2SIZwg895zNUYvu_DIvLmFa4CXrt-RXZ4rR020qjxExubKdnqSa-KxzsFO4gj0YV4jDaQKTl8mjanW1MK2F5pw
Dobro, znači ipak nisu to uradili. Samo je reč o predlogu.
Već sam jednom prizvao Iniga Montoju u poslednjih nedelju dana, pa sad moram da koristim sopstvene reči. Krindž.
Otkud se pojavila ova epigenetika? Mislim da pogrešno koristiš taj termin. Šta si tačno hteo da kažeš?
Quote from: mac on 23-09-2025, 14:14:17Već sam jednom prizvao Iniga Montoju u poslednjih nedelju dana, pa sad moram da koristim sopstvene reči. Krindž.
Otkud se pojavila ova epigenetika? Mislim da pogrešno koristiš taj termin. Šta si tačno hteo da kažeš?
Prenošenje osobina, sklonosti i trauma genetski kroz generacije. Npr. ako ti je pradeda pao s konja to bi moglo da objasniš zašto se plašiš penjanja.
Zašto epigenetika, a ne kultura? Epigenetika je suptilna, a kultura je sve i svja. Čovek emigrira osamdesetih, SFRJ mu je otac i majka, i normalno mu je da vidi iste ljude na vrhu po 20 i više godina. Nema veze sa epigenetikom.
Quote from: mac on 23-09-2025, 14:27:04Zašto epigenetika, a ne kultura? Epigenetika je suptilna, a kultura je sve i svja. Čovek emigrira osamdesetih, SFRJ mu je otac i majka, i normalno mu je da vidi iste ljude na vrhu po 20 i više godina. Nema veze sa epigenetikom.
Možda je i to, samo me epigenetika u poslednje vreme zanima. Kako se hemijski u gene utiskuje ono što se nekome desi i kako se to prenosi kroz generacije. Ali da, ima i kulturoloških obrazaca. Mada ne bih isključivao mogućnost da su ta dva pojma povezani i isprepletani.
Pa ovo što Truman kaže je dosta pojednostavljen pogled na epigeniku (disklejmer: DALEKO samo od bilo kakvog stručnjaka u oblasti), jer recimo uzima u obzir samo nasledni faktor, koji često ne mora biti prisutan u odluci koji gen će se aktivirati a koji ne, a recimo zanemaruje faktor okruženja koji može biti i značajniji. Sa te strane bi, recimo, život van Srbije mogao dovesti do toga da se promene stavovi, mada to zapravo nije adekvatno objašnjenje mehanizma (recimo, veći uticaj može imati hrana koju jedu, voda koju piju, stil života i slično).
Nije to baš utiskivanje u gene, DNK se ne menja, više se odnosi na aktivnost gena, odnosno sposobnost da se određeni gen "uključi" ili "isključi".
Otvorio sam temu na adekvatnom delu foruma i odgovorio sam tamo. xjap
The Internet Reacts To Trump Claiming Tylenol Causes Autism (https://kotaku.com/trump-autism-tylenol-press-conference-reaction-jokes-2000627950)
Autizam, koji je prvi put u literaturu ubeležen 1912. godine, izaziva analgetik koji je u upotebu ušao 1955.
Не кажем да Трамп није потпуно помахнитао, али колико видим у овом случају ствари нису баш тако црно-бијеле
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/22/pregnant-women-can-still-use-tylenol-judiciously-says-researcher-00575788?_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8kDRqDIGwdWuD-n_Q13z42WKVfibn3MDBCsjEffha0o-pQCOrhW24y67Jn9Rb3caYxjtgH6KOZG8eUNXM5WKpILBOqwg&_hsmi=381852734&utm_campaign=KHN:+Daily+Health+Policy+Report&utm_content=381852734&utm_medium=email&utm_source=hs_email
Такође, нема апсолутно никакве контрадикције у томе да супстанца А може да доведе до болести Б која је постојала прије него што је супстанца А измишљена. Ово је ко кад би неко рекао "Откуд ти идеја да нови отров који је направљен 2015. године може да убије човјека кад је смрт већ постојала прије њега?"
U ovim slučajevima vrlo je bitno da se navede doza. Malo aspirina je prihvatljivo u trudnoći, a mnogo ne valja. Verovatno isto važi i za paracetamol. Čak i autor studije kaže da može paracetamol, samo da se ne preteruje. A ako se ispostavi da čak i najmanja doza paracetamola nije prihvatljiva, pa neće svet propasti.
Na žalost, problem su osobe koje se plaše autizma kao đavola, a istovremeno im ne smetaju izduvni gasovi, nebalansirana ishrana, širenje zaraznih bolesti zbog odbijanja vakcinacije i klimatskih promena, i tako to. I sad ako recimo jedno dete u sto hiljada postane autistično baš zbog paracetamola, to je razlog za iracionalno ponašanje, a ako jedno dete u hiljadu nastrada od drugih faktora, to se ignoriše.
Quote from: Tex Murphy on 24-09-2025, 12:26:27Не кажем да Трамп није потпуно помахнитао, али колико видим у овом случају ствари нису баш тако црно-бијеле
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/22/pregnant-women-can-still-use-tylenol-judiciously-says-researcher-00575788?_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8kDRqDIGwdWuD-n_Q13z42WKVfibn3MDBCsjEffha0o-pQCOrhW24y67Jn9Rb3caYxjtgH6KOZG8eUNXM5WKpILBOqwg&_hsmi=381852734&utm_campaign=KHN:+Daily+Health+Policy+Report&utm_content=381852734&utm_medium=email&utm_source=hs_email
Sa druge strane imamo i ovu studiju, koja se spominje i u ovom tekstu koji je Harvi linkovao
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38592388/
Ima tu sad niz stvari koje treba uzeti u obzir, svako hvali svoju metodologiju kao najbolju i daje najveći značaj rezultatima koji su postignuti na sličan način. Ponovljivost takođe može da bude problem, samo se ljudi time teško bave, ako ponoviš i dobiješ iste rezultate onda će ti reći pa to smo već znali i neće publikovati, ako ponoviš i dobiješ drugačije onda će reći loše si ponovio i neće publikovati, ...
Наравно, видим да има и студија које тврде супротно и знајући Трампа сигуран сам да је он све представио много драматичније него што јесте, али колико видим из брзинског прегледа цијелог случаја, ово ипак није нешто што у старту може да се отпише само као његова махнитост.
Evo ko nema strpljenja da čita, čovek je prošao kroz meta-studiju rađenu na Harvardu i u njoj nalazi najsitnije tragove logike koja bi povezala acetaminofen sa autizmom ali praktično nikakve konkluzivne rezultate:
https://rdrama.net/post/397126/warning-to-nonchuds-i-looked-through
(OK, dizajn stranice je strašan ali to je valjda poenta)
Hožu da kažem, ne smem da špekulišem o tome ZAŠTO baš Tylenol a ne neki drugi medikament, ali ovo je skoro doslovno lupetanje napamet od strane RFK-a i Trampa.
Bolje ga zovi Paracetamol, jer tako je znan ovde.
Da, da, Paracetamol u Srbiji, Tajlenol u Americi a svuda acetaminofen :lol:
U ostalim vestima, neko "snajperom" napao ICE kancelariju u Dalasu, dve osobe mrtve, obe su mučeni pritvorenici a ne agenti ICE-a. Lik se na kraju ubio.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/article/dallas-ice-shooting-2-dead-including-suspect-and-2-injured-at-immigration-field-office-142106114.html
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 24-09-2025, 18:00:08U ostalim vestima, neko "snajperom" napao ICE kancelariju u Dalasu, dve osobe mrtve, obe su mučeni pritvorenici a ne agenti ICE-a. Lik se na kraju ubio.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/article/dallas-ice-shooting-2-dead-including-suspect-and-2-injured-at-immigration-field-office-142106114.html
Ma dobro, to je klasika za Ameriku. Neću ni da otvaram link. Ne znači da su zbog toga na ivici propasti! :!:
https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/video-florida-dozvolila-nosenje-oruzja-u-javnosti-muskarac-ga-testira-pred-walmartom/2713875.aspx
Koja bolest...
Hegseth na povijesnom sastanku svih američkih generala (https://narod.hr/eu-svijet/hegseth-na-povijesnom-sastanku-svih-americkih-generala-spremite-se-za-rat)
Quote(...)
Na početku, američki ministar obrane iskoristio je svoj gotovo sat vremena dug govor kako bi uveo zabranu brade.
'Nema više bradonja!', izjavio je Hegseth.
'Nemamo vojsku punu nordijskih pogana, ali nažalost, imali smo vođe koji su ili odbijali prozivati gluposti i provoditi standarde, ili vođe koji su osjećali da im nije dopušteno provoditi standarde. Oboje je neprihvatljivo i zato je danas, na moju uputu, era neprofesionalnog izgleda završena'.
Џеј Ди Венс ћути и скрушено гледа у под.
samo rokaj hegset
kao da vec cujem tog hegseta nakon sto trampu istekne ili zavrsi mandat:
ja sam uvijek bio za vas otvorenog uma i shirikog shvacanja! to je bilo samo da toksicno muskobanjaste vojnikinje i vojnici postanu vise pickasti, da budu inkluzivniji... :lol:
Jednom kad Tramp ode ljudi će shvatiti da ovo ludilo nije samo od Trampa, nego je bilo tu oduvek. Ni Hitler nije sam od sebe pretvorio civilizovanu državu u genocidnu tvorevinu. Problem nikad nisu bili Jevreji i imigranti, nego uvek bogataši. Ali to niko ne razume, ili neće da razume.
ma ni bogatasi. bar ni vise ni manje no zzidovi ili imigranti ili domicilni ili sirotinja ili bilo koji konstrukt sa vise ili manje temelja u stvarnosti.
elementarno ogoljeno problem je uvijek isti: satanizam.
primjer u grubom, relativni, u ovisnosti o trenutku: da se europa konzekventno izolira od srbije, recimo na 5 godina, bar 30% bi prodisala, a srbija se samoprozdrala. 99.9% naroda nije u stanju baratati sa esencijalnim satanizmom koji isijava iz prilika poput srbije i aktivno prozima, korumpira i kapilarno kompromitira svaku i najsitniju priliku.
to je jedini ispravni zacetak, valjani iskorak. sve ostalo uvijek mora zavrsiti u oceanu krvi. aktualno nema ni homogenog, autenticnog i sustinskog relevantnog pojma bogatasa, zzidova, desnice, ljevice, itd. vec samo kompromitiranog. formalnog, laznog.
nema zzivota bez krista kralja.
ludilo je počelo kad su frajeri počeli nosati haljine i dobivat poslove u drzavnoj sluzbi preko reda
i kad su snižavani kriteriji da se mogu manjine upisati i žene sa guzicama u vojsku i policiju
i kad su migranti bez papira postajali policajci i direktori skola
i kad je krivotvoritelj novcanice 20 dolara postao nacionalni heroj demokrata
mogao bih ovako danima nabrajati
konacna radikalizacija se dogodila ovog ljeta klanjem ukrajinke u busu by manjina, smaknucem carlija kirka te hapsenjem bijelca koji je hrvackim potezom smirio podivljalog pripadnika manjina
nikakvog hitlera tu nema
demokrate su se uljuljale da su većina i da mogu srat po ljudima godinama bez posljedica
Kakav hrvatski potez, o čemu je to?
Коми је овог пута у праву.
Demokrate su bolno svesne da nemaju većinu. Doduše oni to mere prvo novcem, pa tek onda glasovima, ali nemaju većinu ni u jednoj od ove dve metrike. Republikanci dobijaju mnogo više novca u političkim donacijama, nešto tipa deset PUTA više novca. Većina tog novca je bogataški novac. Demokrate žele taj bogataški novac koji republikanci imaju, i nije im jasno zašto siromasi glasaju za bogataše. I nikako im to ne ide u glavu, evo već celu deceniju.
Verovatno će dobiti većinu sledeće godine, ali time se samo istorija ponavlja. Demovi dobiju većinu na kraju mandata rep. predsednika, i onda izgube tu većinu dve godine pošto dem. predsednik dođe na vlast. Svaki put se to desi.
The Right's Secret Plan to Help Billionaires Buy Elections (https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/jd-vance-right-plan-billionaires-elections-1235445122/)
David Sirota i Jared Jacang Maher.
Mladi Republikanci nađeni u fašističkom raspoloženju. Ovo naravno ne znači da su svi Republikanci fašisti ali ukazuje koliko je alt rajt duboko prodro u tradicionalne političke strukture i da je spona sa Trampiom jaka, postojeća, nepobitna:
'I love Hitler': Leaked messages expose Young Republicans' racist chat (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146?cid=apn)
kakva je to vijest? :cry:
dvije godine naricanja oko kalifata u gaze, dvije godine demonstracija oko obustave izraelske navale, dvije godine sponzoriranog kristanja, agende krestanja, valjanja po cestama, travnjacima, dvije godine plutanja, selfija, smaranja - i sad muk.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146?fbclid=IwY2xjawNdAbtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHm5bGa7pIPfauUYcXHXNiRbxbQaYx600jHQ1P0JSc64H1yCtfpcCPgzNMyiw_aem_fOlTcAhNYbL6AubavRGang&nid=0000018f-3124-de07-a98f-3be4d1400000&nname=politico-toplines&nrid=1c7a71dc-acdc-448a-a025-52b0d02343e1
Meho je ipak bio u pravu. Jesu rasisti.
Meho reče da nisu svi rasisti, ali ovo ono itd. Jesu li svi rasisti ili nisu?
Quote from: mac on 16-10-2025, 01:46:42Meho reče da nisu svi rasisti, ali ovo ono itd. Jesu li svi rasisti ili nisu?
Meho reče da su mnogi republikanci rasisti i bio je u pravu.
Trumane probudi se
svijet u kome si nekoć živio više ne postoji
mani se te mladenačke naivnosti koju razvlačiš desetljećima
Za forum spremni :|
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 15-10-2025, 15:56:00Mladi Republikanci nađeni u fašističkom raspoloženju. Ovo naravno ne znači da su svi Republikanci fašisti ali ukazuje koliko je alt rajt duboko prodro u tradicionalne političke strukture i da je spona sa Trampiom jaka, postojeća, nepobitna:
'I love Hitler': Leaked messages expose Young Republicans' racist chat (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146?cid=apn)
ne volim hitlera ali zašto djeca u osnovnoj školi ne uče koliko su boljševici pobili kršćana?
zašto se jedno zlo potencira a drugo skriva prikriva i komunističke zemlje nisu dekomunizirane
narod odgovara na to... ili ili
nema malo vako malo nako
uostalom ko je rekao da su zaklali pogrešnu svinju?
Pa možda jer boljševici nisu imali logore smrti kao nacisti. Nisu ubijali pozivajući se na rasne i nacionalne suprematističke teorije - ili zbog vere, kad smo već kod toga - nego, navodno, unutar konteksta klasne borbe. Ovo ne čini masovna ubijanja (ili izgladnjivanje Ukrajine, recimo) nimalo "boljim" ali u ideolokom smislu daje boljševicima malu prednost pa se zato o tome ne priča na isti način kao o nacistima. Recimo da ljudi vide da su komunisti činili zlo (Crveni Kmeri su, naravno, u odnosu na boljševike levelapovali to zločinjenje na zastrašujuću razinu) ali osećaju da su nacisti i mislii zlo...
Nacisti su ubijali one koji su rođeni drugačiji. Komunisti u SSSR su ubijali one koji pričaju drugačije.
razlika izmedju nacista i komunista postoji tek u smislu da su nacisti onako vise posteni ljudi, dok su komunisti vise onako srboturski. jedni ce te ubiti sprijeda i to i priznati, drugi s ledja, pa negirati i cak oni glumiti zrtvu.
Svaki vapaj da se komunisti i nacisti stave u isti koš je samo pokušaj da se operu nacisti, nikakve ideje o izjednačavanju zla (koje i nije jednako) tu nema.
Bolji su nacisti, nisu oni toliko ubijali...naciste...evo pitajte naciste ako ne verujete...
Deset od deset anketiranih nacista se slaže da je nacizam bio manje zlo od komunizma. :lol:
da, otprilike tako nekako negirati i cak glumiti zrtvu; zahvaljujem na zivopisnoj demonstraciji. :lol:
Ma niko ne negira, svi smo svesni da je totalitarni komunizam počinio mnogo neoprostivih zločina protiv čovečnosti. Ali ne na isti način kao nacisti a originalno pitanje je bilo zašto se o njihovim zločinima ne uči u školi. Zato što način nije bio isti. Takođe, da ne zaboravimo, u Drugom svetskom ratu su Amerikanci sve svoje građane japanskog porekla držali u logorima do kraja rata a i bacili nuklearne bombe na dva grada i pobili desetine hiljada civila, ali ni o tome se ne uči.
Ubijenima je svejedno je li ubijen zbog rase ili klase
Ima 23.8. Dan osude svih totalitarizama
Isti su
Samo pogledaš ko trubi o tom danu (hrvacki sabor, prestolonaslednik, SPO, ...) i sve bude jasno.
Osnovna razlika između nacista i komunista je što su svi nacisti bili loši dok je među komunistima bilo puno dobrih. Otuda su nacisti ubijali po rasnoj, verskoj i nacionalnoj osnovi a komunisti po ideološkoj.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 16-10-2025, 18:08:54Ma niko ne negira, svi smo svesni da je totalitarni komunizam počinio mnogo neoprostivih zločina protiv čovečnosti. Ali ne na isti način kao nacisti...
naravno da su komunisti imali i logore smrti istovjetne nacistickima poput ausvica ili beogradskih za zzidove. razlika je prosto u tome sto je nacizam postenija stvar, blizi prirodi, vrlo krut, ali statican, dok je komunizam ljigav, bizantski, pa se i razotkriven prodaje kao "manje zlo". uvijek se i dalje mrda, iz koje god pozicije, pokusava se oporaviti i nanovo metastazirati.
u nacizmu je sve jasno i priroda ti odredi zlu sudbinu, rodis li se kao "pripadnik inferiorni" u kojem god pogledu ili ne, dok u komunizmu banda uvijek pokusava angazirati idiote koji onda masakriraju narod po potrebama bande, sve po uvjetima i smjernicama koje banda u hodu moze vrlo prakticno mijenjati.
danas ce te zaludjeni idioti po nalogu komunisticke bande na vrhu ubiti jer ne volis staljina, sutra jer volis staljina, prekosutra jer ne volis, pa ce te jucer ubiti jer si peder, pa danas ce te ubiti jer nisi peder, pa jer ne volis tita, pa jer volis, pa jer ga ne volis, pa jer imas nesto za ukrasti, pa jer nemas nista za ukrasti, pa jer ne podrzavas islamiste, pa ce te ubiti i iz zajebancije...
A Noć dugih noževa? Šta je tu bilo pošteno?
to nema veze sa perspektivom iz koje bodujemo objektivni teret tih bandi na covjecanstvo. navodis interne razmirice.
Povijest pisu pobjednici
Nazalost to su bili komunisti
Kad sam bio mali cuo sam da su palili knjige i sokirao se
Ja mislio palili djecje romane ono transgender sund i smece
Quote from: Truman on 16-10-2025, 19:45:02Osnovna razlika između nacista i komunista je što su svi nacisti bili loši dok je među komunistima bilo puno dobrih. Otuda su nacisti ubijali po rasnoj, verskoj i nacionalnoj osnovi a komunisti po ideološkoj.
Pobijena krscanska braca od zidokomunista se ne slazu
Quote from: Truba on 16-10-2025, 20:28:04Ja mislio palili djecje romane ono transgender sund i smece
Palili svu sve što su deklarisali kao ne-Nemačko. uključujući i
- Na Zapadu ništa novo od Remarka
- Zbogom oružje od Hemingveja
- sve od Sigmunda Frojda (jer je Jevrej), sve od Karla Marksa (komi), sve od Bertolda Brehta
- sve od svih Jevreja
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/book-burning
Ko ne uči istoriju osuđen je da je ponavlja...
Ma nema...ima jos sta kvalitetno?
Prodo komolet hemingveja i sigmunda
Imal sta kvalitetnije
eto jos jedan krasni primjer. gdje god se zagrebe, uvijek isto.
nacisti su "nepodobne" knjige posteno spalili, dok su komunisti navodno spalili, a u stvarnosti pokrali i prodali. bilo cijele kontejnere u juznu ameriku, bilo njemackim salonskim komunistima lopovima za preprodaju (sjetite se joske fisera i nekih strucnjaka za biblioteke iz srbije), bilo remitendu zabavnih izdanja iz slobodne dalmacije pokrali i pretocili u temelj privatnog izdavastva...
Komunisti izlaze iz frižidera, ima ih na svakom ćošku, dok nacistu danas ne možeš naći ni baterijskom lampom, istrebljeni, praktično ne postoje. Još jedan dokaz koliko je komunizam opasniji od nacizma.
Da ne pomisli neko da sam ozbiljan, imao sam više komunista u familiji. Članovi partije, aktivni, bukvalno me boli kurac za komunizam, i ne samo mene već celu moju generaciju braće i sestara, apsolutno niko nije ni blizu nečega što bi se moglo nazvati komunistom.
Dok se za ove nacističke potomke to teško može reći, tradicija se ne prekida tako lako, što se kaže spremni za mobilizaciju u pola noći, a u međuvremenu aktivno učestvuju u održavanju i širenju ideologije.
opet ti na p. :cry:
sto bi rekao drug meho za bubnjanje: zar jos nije poznato da smo mi svi potomci nekih koji bi se mogli nazvati komunistima?
ali, postoji bitna razlika: dok su moji ubijali naciste i dok su tvoji (clanovi partije, aktivni) krali, pa se moji kao posteni ljudi kad shvatili da prevareni, zlorabljeni i da su doveli lopovsku, zlocinacku bandu na vlast okrenuli od bande, tvoji su joj se nastavili uvlaciti u dupe dok god imali koristi, cega si i ti krajnji rezultat.
Da su moji krali ja bih sad uživao negde u Njemačkoj sa Njemačkim pasošem, ne bih se ovde patio sa nacistima.
da. u njemacku su obicno odlazili ljudi puni para... a pravi komunisti ostali nesebicno na braniku trajne revolucije, cije pretesko breme si i ti naslijedio. :lol:
Pa stvarno ne znam ko ovde propagira nacističku ideologiju već decenijama, ti ili ja.
I kakva je to teorija da je komunizam opasniji jer je preživeo kad upravo nacista ima ko pacova, izviru iz svakog kanalizacionog otvora i šire svoj smrad.
Quote from: Petronije on 16-10-2025, 22:11:55Da ne pomisli neko da sam ozbiljan, imao sam više komunista u familiji. Članovi partije, aktivni, bukvalno me boli kurac za komunizam, i ne samo mene već celu moju generaciju braće i sestara, apsolutno niko nije ni blizu nečega što bi se moglo nazvati komunistom.
Dok se za ove nacističke potomke to teško može reći, tradicija se ne prekida tako lako, što se kaže spremni za mobilizaciju u pola noći, a u međuvremenu aktivno učestvuju u održavanju i širenju ideologije.
Ovo je dobro zapažanje, što je zlo jače teđe ga je iskoreniti. Možda zato što kad je neko sklon zlu u njega se ušanče te ideje, a komunizam u teoriji ne zagovara zlo pa je lakše i odreći ga se.
Ja ne bih voleo da ispadne da neko ovde umanjuje poznate i dokumentovane zločine protiv čovečnosti koje su počinili komunistički režimi. To pogotovo meni nije cilj. Znamo da su Sovjeti (da se ograničimo na njih jer je od njih počelo a već smo pomenuli da su npr. Crveni Kmeri radili i još gore stvari) ubijali masovno, da su streljali i žene i decu, da su imali logore, da su izgladnjivali stotine hiljada ljudi do smrti. Dakle, veoma je važno da ne ispadne da se u ovoj raspravi tvrdi da su komunisti bezgrešni i da nikada nisu počinili nikakav zločin.
Ali nisu u logorima pravili abažure od ljudske kože i pepeljare od ljudskih skeletalnih ostataka. Nisu istrebljivali po nacionalnoj osnovi, sistematski i uz teorijsku podlogu o nižoj rasi i tome da kada ubijate Jevreje gasom u logoru, ne ubijate ljude. Ili, ako jesu, sporadično, ovo nije bila doktrina čitavog društva.
Naravno da je ubijenima to potpuno akademska razlika. Ali od akademskog pitanja je i počela rasprava: zašto se ne uči u školi o tome koliko su hrišćana boljševici ubili. Ovo je, mislim, glavni razlog.
I u Jugoslaviji mislim da možemo da napravimo jasnu razliku između nacističkih i komunističkih sledbenika. I ovo govorim kao neko kome je deda bio oficir kraljevske vojske Jugoslavije, kome su obe porodice pod komunistima izgubile dosta imovine, dakle kao neko ko nema neki specijalan razlog da voli Tita i komuniste (sem indoktrinacije kojoj sam bio izložen prvih dvadeset godina života): komunisti su bez sumnje počinili mnogo zločina, pobili mnogo ljudi tokom i posle rata, kroz preke sudove i uz opravdanje da su to bil kolaboracionisti.
Ali nisu imali Jasenovac. Ta razlika je dovoljna i dovoljno intuitivno shvatljiva.
Uzalud pišeš bilo šta, nakon ovog ide plansko zatrpavanje nacističkim glupostima. I to ne u jednom postu, već 4-5 komada zaredom, da neko ni slučajno ne pročita ono što je neko pre njega napisao. Tolika potrošnja energije i vremena u propagiranju zla na forumu od 15 ljudi, meni je to nepojmljivo, ali zato je nacizam to što jeste, i zato je i opstao toliko, kao i svaka ideologija koja se zasniva na slepom fanatizmu ispranih mozgova.
vec sam se pitao kad ce mit o jasenovcu, reko, brinete me. :|
realno bi srpska sekta i kriminalna, lazljiva diplomacija trebali pojacati propagandu, podvaliti bar 20% vise fotografija zrtava jugokomunistickih i srbonacistickih logora pod jasenovacke zrtve, a moze i novih, novih pouzdanih svedoka. revizionizam je opako u navali! a i sarajevo ozbiljno prijeti da bi moglo preuzeti stafetu u odrzavanju mita, sto si beograd ne moze dozvoliti...
previše antifašistični za narod koji je iznjedrio vukovar srebrenicu keraterm omarsku skabrnju koricanjske stijene visegratske buktinje te neznane civile kalinovika sokoca han pijeska rogatice foce i inih mjesta gdje su god srbi bili vecina
cca 40 000-50 000 civila pobijeno
Quote from: Petronije on 16-10-2025, 22:57:31Pa stvarno ne znam ko ovde propagira nacističku ideologiju već decenijama, ti ili ja.
I kakva je to teorija da je komunizam opasniji jer je preživeo kad upravo nacista ima ko pacova, izviru iz svakog kanalizacionog otvora i šire svoj smrad.
ovaj put nas necete zajebati
ne govorim tebi nego generalno
ljevicarske ublehe su prepoznate i sve je vise ljudi koji otkrivaju ko su stvarni neprijatelji danas
Gemini nabroj mi 5 vodja oktobarske revolucije
Evo pet vodećih osoba Oktobarske revolucije, uz naznaku njihove nacionalne pripadnosti, mada je u to vrijeme sve to bilo unutar Ruskog Carstva, odnosno kasnije Sovjetskog Saveza:
Vladimir Iljič Lenjin (Uljanov)
Nacija: Rus
Nema sumnje, on je bio glavni ideolog i pokretačka snaga.
Lav Trocki (Bronštejn)
Nacija: Ukrajinski Židov (rođen na teritoriju današnje Ukrajine, u to vrijeme Rusko Carstvo)
Bio je ključna osoba u organizaciji Crvene armije i samog ustanka. Vrlo energičan i sposoban govornik.
Josif Visarionovič Džugašvili (Staljin)
Nacija: Gruzijac
U vrijeme Revolucije bio je zadužen za pitanja nacionalnosti, a kasnije se nametnuo kao Lenjinov nasljednik.
Jakov Sverdlov
Nacija: Ruski Židov (rođen u Nižnjem Novgorodu, Rusija)
Imao je važnu ulogu u rukovodstvu, bio je predsjednik Centralnog izvršnog komiteta, što je bila najviša formalna funkcija u novoj državi.
Grigorij Zinovjev (Radomislski)
Nacija: Ruski Židov
Iako je s Lavom Kamenjevom u početku bio protiv oružanog ustanka, bio je istaknuti boljševik i predsjednik Izvršnog komiteta Kominterne.
kako gemini krije da je LENJIN ZIDOV
dodatno pitanje je li 100% rus?
Majka: Marija Aleksandrovna Uljanova (rođena Blank) je također imala miješano porijeklo. Njen otac, Lenjinov djed, bio je Židov iz Ukrajine (tada Ruskog Carstva) koji je prešao na kršćanstvo (pravoslavlje) i stekao obrazovanje. Njena majka, odnosno Lenjinova baka, imala je njemačko i vjerojatno i švedsko porijeklo.
židovske ubice milijuna kršćana u 10-ak zemalja nikada nisu dobili svoje zasluzeno mjesto u povijesnim udzbenicima osnovne skole ali je zato hemingvej dobio....zbog svoje romantične prikaze rusenja mosta u ŠGR-u 1936-1939 pokvarivši ljudima prikaz istinskog mehaniziranog rata produljivsi rat zbog dolaska stranih dragovoljaca i ko zna koliko lije umrlo zbog njegovih skrabotina a on se na vrijeme ispalio
Quote from: Truba on 17-10-2025, 11:58:43ljevicarske ublehe su prepoznate i sve je vise ljudi koji otkrivaju ko su stvarni neprijatelji danas
Pa ako ti ljudi kojih je sve više pozdravljaju jedni druge visoko uzdignutom rukom, pretpostavljam da će uslediti još jedan civilizacijski izazov i humanitarni kolaps. A sve samo zato što su ljudi zaboravni i ne prate na časovima istorije.
simpatizerima sistema koji kriju nacije svojih sonivača ne treba uputiti pozdrav: Zanimljivo je da su ovi podaci o židovskom i ostalom porijeklu dulje vrijeme bili skrivani u Sovjetskom Savezu.
o hići se sve zna ali o komunističkim vođama muljaže
pa vidimo kakav život danas vode sntifa njihovi simpatizeri
ne zna im se ni rod ni spol ni broj a ne šta drugo...pirsing
Imam utisak da mi treba ChatGPT da mi prevede šta si sad napisao. Ali ono što je očigledno je da pričaš napamet i praviš ne samo argument od slame, nego i nepriatelje od slame. Ne bi me iznenadilo da je svaka reč koju si napisao netačna.
reko ti je gore čovjek
kod nacista je sve bilo transparentno nekih 12 godina u 1 zemlji koja se na silu proširila na 15-ak možda više nebitno fakticki na jednom kontinentu...palili knjige i ubijali ljude
komunisti ubijaju netransparentno na 5 kontinenata i u 30-ak zemalja ukupno skoro 110 godina...zabranjivali knjige i ubijaju ljude
zaključak da bolje razumiješ objasnio sam geminiju da se raspravljam s tobom pa da fino to objasni
Nacisti su ciljali prvenstveno na rasu (Židove) i ideologiju (marksiste/pacifiste), čineći to javno i ritualno.
Komunisti su ciljali na ideološke neprijatelje i disidente, provodeći to tiho, birokratski, kroz sustavne popise i kontrolu pristupa, s ciljem stvaranja jedinstvene "partijske" misli.
Oba režima, iako su bili ideološki neprijatelji, pokazala su kako totalitarizam ne može tolerirati slobodnu misao
Mogu Vam navesti 10 najpoznatijih autora i njihovih djela koja su završila na lomači, a čija su imena i danas svjetski poznata:
Erich Maria Remarque
Najpoznatije djelo: Na Zapadu ništa novo (Im Westen nichts Neues) – Spaljeno zbog antiratne i antimilitarističke poruke.
Thomas Mann
Poznata djela: Čarobni brijeg (Der Zauberberg) – Iako etnički Nijemac, bio je kritičar nacizma, a bio je i oženjen Židovkom.
Sigmund Freud
Najpoznatije djelo: Tumačenje snova (Die Traumdeutung) – Spaljen jer je bio Židov, a njegove teorije psihoanalize smatrane su opasnima i perverznima.
Karl Marx
Najpoznatije djelo: Kapital (Das Kapital) – Spaljen kao ideološki neprijatelj, zbog promicanja socijalizma i komunizma.
Franz Kafka
Poznato djelo: Proces (Der Process) – Njegova djela su, iako je bio njemački pisac, spaljena jer je bio Židov.
Albert Einstein
Knjige o teorijskoj fizici – Iako znanstvenik, spaljen jer je bio Židov. Njegova znanost smatrana je "židovskom fizikom" i suprotstavljena "njemačkoj fizici".
Jack London
Poznato djelo: Zov divljine (The Call of the Wild) – Njegova djela, iako Amerikanac, spaljena su zbog socijalističkih ideja koje su se kosile s nacizmom.
Bertolt Brecht
Poznata djela: Opera za tri groša (Die Dreigroschenoper) – Spaljen zbog marksističkih pogleda i otvorenog ljevičarskog angažmana.
Heinrich Heine
Poznata djela: Almansor – Iako je živio u 19. stoljeću, njegove knjige su spaljene jer je bio Židov. Njegov čuveni citat: "Tamo gdje spaljuju knjige, na kraju će spaljivati i ljude" često se spominje u vezi s ovim događajima.
Kurt Tucholsky
Poznate satire i pacifistički eseji – Bio je oštar kritičar militarizma i njemačkog društva, te je bio Židov.
manje je poznato da je prije dolaska hitlera na vlast u njemackoj bilo na tisuće samoubojstava godisnje od 1918 do 1933. ukupno skoro 250 000 tisuća...
i sam sam pomisljao na samoubijstvo kad sam citao remarkove knjige
onda se covjek zapita...rodjen i učen u školi o ratu prije mene, preživio rat, mučio se u poraću...taman zaradio neku paru kupio remarkov komplet i da opet čitam o ratu??? samo budala i mazohista to moze
stavio na oglas neće niko
Opet brkaš uzroke, posledice, i veze s vezama. Ubijali se, ali ne zbog Remarka, nego zbog hiperinflacije i opšte krize, koji su velikim delom bili posledica reparacionih troškova iz Prvog svetskog rata. Dakle ne Remark, nego Vilhelm II i kamarila.
pa to su općepoznate stvari za razliku od godina nereda u CCCP od 1917. do 1941.
Hlodomor kao genocid sa milijunima ubijenih glađu smo upoznali tek 2022. kad je unuk lenjinovog kuhara napao ukrajinu
Znači opšte je poznato da nisu Remarkove knjige uticale na samoubistva u Vajmarskoj repoublici, nego ga samo ti spominješ ovde i sada u nadi da nekom prodaš njegov komplet?
ma dobro to je onako digresija
duh vremena...koji se promijenio ulaskom u neoštećen pariz
da parafraziram srbe kad ukažeš na zločine nad civilima devedesetih
ma svi su činili zločine i ko nas bre zavadi
Quote from: Truba on 17-10-2025, 13:13:43i sam sam pomisljao na samoubijstvo kad sam citao remarkove knjige
A mi se nadamo da si dobio medicinsku pomoć i terapiju jer je to znak narušenog mentalnog zdravlja. Ali nije argument da je nacizam dobar, zaboga.
A ako si za gladomor čuo tek 2022 godine moraš da proširiš malo spektar izvora na kojima se napajaš znanjem, nisu nacistički forumi baš dovoljan izvor informacija. Evo ovde, recimo imaš svedočenja snimana između 1983. i 2019. godine, dostupna od 2019 onlajn svakome koga zanima i to je bukvalno nasumičono izabran izvor među stotinama:
https://archives.lib.umn.edu/repositories/6/resources/9184
ajd meho, nemoj cjepidlaciti. pa nije komi potomak oficira kraljevske vojske "jugoslavije", pa da su ga "jugokomunisti" uputili u neobiljezenu masovnu grobnicu na skolovanje u oksford; kao neke. :evil:
ali vratimo se temi: koliko skretnicarenja samo da bi se potisnula vijest da je tramp primirio duhove u gazi...
dvije godine kricanja i krestanja za spas islamisticke baze, pa sad vijest nikako ne odgovara kad bi se zaslugu moralo pripisati pogresnoj politickoj opciji, a ne crvenofasistickoj.
Brt, jese zajebavaš? A što su ovi pobili 70.000 ljudi, uglavnom civila, to ništa. Sad je mir i sve je super! I niko neće da odgovara za to. Nije, naravno, Tramp kriv za TO, ali da se ne pravimo da je sada sve okej jer je on zaustavio rat i da je to STVARNO bio rat a ne jednostrani genocidni napor koji su SAD pod zločincem Bajdenom (a onda malimdelom i pod Trampom) podržavale.
Ne verujem ni u kakav mir na bliskom istoku. Sutra mogu opet da zapucaju. Trump nije ništa posebno zaslužan za primirje, reč je o dinamici događaja. Umorili se malo od rata, pa će posle opet. xyxy
Kako cu znat za gladomor kad sam se registrirao na ovaj forum 2002 kao komunjara...to mi je bio nik
Mislio da su to ljudi svetci borci za slobodu i srecu svih ljudi
A zapravo samo se metode ubijanja neistomisljenika razlikuju od nacista fasista i ostalih
Ista govna troglava azdaja
'No Kings' protests full coverage: Anti-Trump marches fill streets in NYC, Washington, D.C., Chicago and San Diego (https://www.yahoo.com/news/live/no-kings-protests-full-coverage-anti-trump-marches-fill-streets-in-nyc-washington-dc-chicago-and-san-diego-120015863.html)
QuoteMillions of people took to the streets Saturday in "No Kings" marches opposing President Trump, with demonstrations unfolding in more than 2,500 cities across all 50 states and several European capitals.
Odgovor administracije na ove proteste, na zvaničnom tviter nalogu Bele kuće uz tekst "We're built different. Have a good night everyone."
(https://i.imgur.com/bA9idPr.jpeg)
Ovi ne kriju da su autoritarci. xrofl
Odavno. Kada je Tramp dobio izbore po drugi put izjavio je na nekom skupu svojih glasača da neće više ni morati da glasaju.
Da, on bi da bude predsednik i treći put.
https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/izraelska-vojska-zapoceli-smo-val-udara-u-gazi/2721631.aspx?index_ref=naslovnica_vijesti_prva_d
Toliko o Trumpovom miru. xrofl
Ово АИ троловање је апсолутно генијално! nas-rofl nas-rofl nas-rofl
Има и овај феноменални бисер од прије неколико недеља
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WONMJdfgGxI
И још
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sKaVoDRvLQc
U Njujorku danasa glasuju za gradonačelnika i, evo kako prominentan republikanski senator iz Teksasa reguje na to što je jedan od kandidata - i to onaj kome predviđaju pobedu - socijalista i musliman:
(https://i.imgur.com/2YVcs1F.jpeg)
У вези са овим морамо да додамо контекст - наиме, Тед Круз је циониста (што је ПОТПУНО супротно хришћанству, којем наводно припада) и примио је скоро 2 милиона долара од АИПАЦ-а, али је поред тога и ретардирана дебилчина. Самим тим, не представља све републиканске сенаторе, већ свега неких 99.9% њих.
Zahvaljujem, kolega. Mislim da bi bilo dovoljno da smo rekli samo da je iz Teksasa. Napomenuo sam da je republikanac jer to sa slike nije jasno pošto je drugi kandidat demokrata, pa eto.
Иначе, потпуно је урнебесно како се ово "Karl Marx quoting" аутоматски подразумијева као нешто што би требало да дисквалификује човјека из цивилизованог друштва :D Ако бих морао да се кладим, уложио бих паре и у то да Тел Авив Тед не зна шта је заправо "џихад".
Brat Zoran pobedio:
Zohran Mamdani wins NYC mayoral race, crowd erupts in cheers (https://www.southbendtribune.com/videos/news/politics/2025/11/04/zohran-mamdani-wins-new-york-city-mayoral-race-crowd-cheers/87097724007/)
Evo kako istu vest prenosi provučićevski B92:
Komunistički LUDAK je "RAZVALIO" TRAMPA (https://www.b92.net/info/svet/178819/komunisticki-ludak-je-razvalio-trampa/vest)QuoteDemokrata Zohran Mamdani, koji je sebe opisao kao "najgoru noćnu moru predsednika Sjedinjenih Američkih Država Donalda Trampa" pobedio je na izborima za gradonačelnika Njujorka.
islamisti izgurali lijevi centar u njujorku? oh, zgodno. kakvo je to blesavo ime sa h?
Čestitke Zohranu na pobedi. Njujork pokazuje da je najbolji deo Amerike. E sad još ostaje da se vidi hoće li ispuniti obećanja. :mrgreen: Rispekt na izjavi da Netanjahua treba uhapsiti.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 05-11-2025, 05:40:58Brat Zohran pobedio:
Zohran Mamdani wins NYC mayoral race, crowd erupts in cheers (https://www.southbendtribune.com/videos/news/politics/2025/11/04/zohran-mamdani-wins-new-york-city-mayoral-race-crowd-cheers/87097724007/)
kakav brat, kakvo ime, kakav uspjeh, takva evo i glazbena podloga da se nadje. :lol:
https://youtu.be/-YwnwsjmQEg
saće zoran da daruje besplatne stanove svojoj klasi
ali će morati nekome oteti te stanove to obično biva neprijateljska klasa
pošto ne smije dirati židove vjerojatno će otimati od srednjeg staleža davati siromasima
a onda će razlika bogatih i siromašnih bivati sve veća
Evo zašto Amerika ima problema s realnošću. Previše evangelista.
Yes, American Christianity Is Cruel On Purpose (https://youtu.be/Nd76uNMpXIc)
Zasto srbi nikad nisu trazili delove rumunjske drzave kao dio velike srbije
Verovatno si u glavi spojio nekoliko tačaka, preskočio više stepenika, pa ne mogu da te ispratim. Nemam pojma o čemu pričaš.
bio sam u temišvaru ljetos i vidio veliku pravoslavnu srpsku oduvek crkvu a kaže da ih ima 22000 srba tu
pa reko kad je pado čaušešku mogli su tenkovi krenuti prema temišvaru a ne vukovaru 2 godine kasnije
Ne zna se šta je veća misterija, zašto Srbi ne jurišaju na Rumuniju, ili zašto Truba piše o tome na američkom topiku...
Komšije preuzimaju Lukoil (https://www.b92.net/biz/svet/vesti/186726/komsije-preuzimaju-lukoil/vest)
QuoteRumunska vlada odobrila je danas dekret kojim se omogućava preuzimanje lokalnih resursa kompanija koje podležu međunarodnim sankcijama, među kojima je i ruski Lukoil.
Dekret daje Vladi Rumunije ovlašćenje da imenuje posebne upravitelje za kompanije koje zbog sankcija mogu da naruše tamošnju privredu, izazovu skokove cena ili ugroze energetsku sigurnost, prenosi Rojters.
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pa kontam da napadate samo one koje razumijete
a bojite se onih koje ne razumijete
zato je bila bježanija s kosova
a jaka borba u krajini čak 3 dana
amerika ima veze sa svime
Не вјерујем да има ишта од овога, али лијепо је да се бар прича о томе
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/pete-hegseth-and-team-to-be-investigated-for-war-crimes-and-outright-murder-heres-what-you-need-to-know/ar-AA1RyTGm
Tramp povezao Srbiju sa pokušajem krađe predsedničkih izbora u SAD (https://n1info.rs/vesti/tramp-povezao-srbiju-sa-pokusajem-kradje-predsednickih-izbora-u-sad/)
meni samo nije jasno sta oni, bilo koji oni, zapad, ocekuju iz bilo kojeg i bilo kakvog kontakta sa srbijom. razumijem i da ih se redovno peca na pohlepu i/ili nekakve perverzije, ali realno, i majmun bi vec naucio da se od srbije izolira na sve zamislive nacine.
Zamisli kakvi su tek drugi, kad nas hoće više od drugih...
nece "vas" zato sto bi drugi bili gori, vec zato sto uspjesno korisite slabosti individualca naustrb zajednice.
korumpirate pojedinca, pogodujete mu, cak ga i izgradite po potrebi, pojedinac zgrne profit, prednost, kurve i cevape, firma mu zaradi, a naustrb interesa zajednice. otvori vam vrata, te kompromitirate sustav, podatke, tehnologiju, demokraciju, postenje, norme, zakone, metastazirate u sve.
postena, funkcionalna i normalna drzava izolirala bi srpski uticaj u svemu i u svakom smislu, koncernima zabranila podruznice i ispostave u srbiji. nitko nema sta traziti u srbiji osim sacice izuzetnih diplomata i to samo pod nadzorom, nista ispod stola. sve ostalo je korupcija ili teska glupost, najcesceg izvora u pohlepi, i pogubno.
Naše softverske kuće uspešno sarađuju sa svetskim softverskim kućama. Ne možeš ti da nateraš nekog Nemca ili Amerikanca da kupi softversku kompaniju ovde, ako mu to nije od koristi. Prosto ne biva. Ako misliš da biva onda se ne razumeš u vlasničke odnose.
naravno da mu je od koristi, rekoh. to je mehanizam preko kojeg ulazite i kompromitirate zajednice. americki poduzetnik profitira, individualac, dok americki sustav, zajednica, stostruko plati jer korumpirani idiot za profit otvorio vrata srbiji da podriva, nisti i razara sustav, krade tehnologiju, podvaljuje... po potrebi kreativno dodaj.
ne moze se netjerati nekog da kupi (kompaniju u srbiji), ali trebalo bi ga natjerati da NE kupi i da nema posla sa srbijom.
To o čemu pričaš je problem u celom svetu sa svim akterima, a ne samo Srbima. To se rešava zakonima i poštovanjem zakona. Ako Amerikanci ne poštuju zakone, ili im zakoni nisu dobro formirani, onda time prizivaju svakakve sumnjivce iz celog sveta, a ne samo Srbe.
nisu problem "sumnjivci", vec institucionalizirani kriminal. nemaju sve drzave organizirani kriminal u repertoaru.
a one koje ga imaju, te sustav, privid drzave, koriste tek kao pokrice, krinku, i servis organiziranog kriminala, moraju biti izolirane dok god se ne samoprozderu.
posten covjek ili postena drzava nemaju sta traziti u srbiji. u srbiji "bez opasnosti" moze poslovati tek neki istovjetni kriminalni sustav. sustav koji ima i adekvatni odgovor na srpski kriminalni sustav i niz podvala kojima ce biti izlozen pri kontaktu sa srbijom.
uglavnom, aktualno imamo stanje da nekolicina kriminalnih organizacija koje kao pokrice koriste pojam drzave, poput srbije, vrlo uspjesno kompromitiraju demokratske sustave koristeci slabost pojedinca koji im za individualni profit otvara vrata zajednice.
Ezra Klajn razgovara s retkom osobom, demokratom hrišćaninom, koji je pritom trenutno kongresmen u teksaškom kongresu, ali i kandidat za U.S. senat iz Teksasa. Šteta što se za to mesto bori protiv Džazmin Kroket u borbi za demokratskog kandidata. Kroketova hoće iz kongresa da pređe u senat, a dobro se pokazala u kongresu.
James Talarico's Beautiful Answer to Christian Nationalism (https://youtu.be/sa6fiO2EgJ4)
Video traje 90 minuta.
Како мислиш "ријетком" особом? Па огромна већина демократа су "хришћани". Лажни, наравно, али тако се званично изјашњавају нонетхелесс. Укључујући Барака Обману, Џоа Бајдена, Камалу Херис итд. итд. итд.
Odslušaj intervju (podkast je u pitanju, ne mora ni da se gleda), pa da vidimo šta i kako dalje.
Vrlo ilustrativan i jasno složen tekst Korija Doktorova o tome koliko je u stvari teško dobiti državljanstvo SAD, a napisan od strane čoveka koji u SAD živi od početka veka (rođeni Kanađanin) a dobio je državljanstvo 2022. godine, ima novca za advokate i Engleski mu je maternji jezik. Kad ovo čitate shvatite koliko je proseravanje o ilegalnim migrantima i Trampovo mahanje ICE kurcem unaokolo sve jedna velika šarena laža. Osoba koje su sa dve godine doveli iz Kolumbije u SAD, ceo život tu sedi i radi, plaća porez itd. i sada ima recimo 30 godina i želi da dobije državljanbstvo jer, eto, insistira se da morate pokazati "pravi" dokument koji potvrđuje da ste građanin SAD na glasanju (dakle, izgleda da se neće priznavati vozačke dozvole itd.) ima šansu da ga dobije otprilike koliku šansu ja imam da Džekija Čena, Žana Kloda Van Dama i Scotta Adkinsa dobijem u obaranju ruku.
Luxury Kafka (https://pluralistic.net/2026/02/06/doge-ball/)
QuoteLet's be clear: I played the US immigration game on the easiest level. I am relatively affluent – rich enough to afford fancy immigration lawyers with offices on four continents – and I am a native English speaker. This made the immigration system ten thousand times (at a minimum) easier for me than it is for most US immigrants.
(...)
Imagine that your parents brought you to the USA 60 years ago, and that you've been a citizen for more than half a century, but you're being told that you should carry your certificate of citizenship if you don't want to be shot in the face or kidnapped to a slave labor camp. Your parents – long dead – never got you that certificate, so you create an online ID with the immigration service and try to complete form N-600. Do you know the date and flight number for the plane you flew to America on when you were three? Do you know your passport number from back then? Do you have all three of each of your dead parents' numeric immigration identifiers? Can you recover the dates of every border crossing your parents made into the USA from the day they were born until the day they became citizens?
Anyone who says that "immigrants should just follow the rules" has missed the fact that the rules are impossible to follow. I get to do luxury Kafka, the business class version of US immigration Kafka, where you get to board first and nibble from a dish of warm nuts while everyone else shuffles past you, and I've given up on getting my daughter's certificate of citizenship. The alternative – omitting a single American vacation between 1971 and 2022 – could constitute an attempt to defraud the US immigration system, after all.
This was terrible a couple years ago, when the immigration system still had human operators you could reach by sitting on hold for several hours. Today, thanks to a single billionaire's gleeful cruelty, the system is literally unnavigable, "staffed" by a chatbot that can't answer basic questions. A timely reminder that the only jobs AI can do are the jobs that no one gives a shit about.
Не знам ђе ово да ставим, па ево овде. Такер интервјуише једног од најмахнитијих америчких циониста (а знамо да је конкуренција у тој дисциплини страшна), амбасадора у Израелу Мајка Хакабија. Нисам још погледао интервју, али немам разлога да сумњам да је прдоња размонтиран на сличан начин као Тед Круз.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS7itdfgNnU
The U.S. spent $30 billion to ditch textbooks for laptops and tablets: The result is the first generation less cognitively capable than their parents (https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/u-spent-30-billion-ditch-110200869.html)
QuoteIn 2002, Maine became the first state to implement a statewide laptop program to some grade levels. Then-Governor Angus King saw the program as a way to put the internet at the fingertips of more children, who would be able to immerse themselves in information.
By that fall, the Maine Learning Technology Initiative had distributed 17,000 Apple laptops to seventh graders across 243 middle schools. By 2016, those numbers had multiplied to 66,000 laptops and tablets distributed to Maine students.
King's initial efforts have been mirrored across the country. In 2024, the U.S. spent more than $30 billion putting laptops and tablets in school. But more than a quarter century and numerous evolving models of technology later, psychologists and learning experts see a different outcome than the one King intended. Rather than empowering the generation with access to more knowledge, the technology had the opposite effect.
Earlier this year, in written testimony before the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, neuroscientist Jared Cooney Horvath said that Gen Z is less cognitively capable than previous generations, despite its unprecedented access to technology. He said Gen Z is the first generation in modern history to score lower on standardized tests than the previous one.
While skills measured by these tests, like literacy and numeracy, aren't always indicative of intelligence, they are a reflection of cognitive capability, which Horvath said has been on the decline over the last decade or so.
Citing Program for International Student Assessment data taken from 15-year-olds across the world and other standardized tests, Horvath noted not only dipping test scores, but also a stark correlation in scores and time spent on computers in school, such that more screen time was related to worse scores. He blamed students having unfettered access to technology that atrophied rather than bolstered learning capabilities. The introduction of the iPhone in 2007 also didn't help.
"This is not a debate about rejecting technology," Horvath wrote. "It is a question of aligning educational tools with how human learning actually works. Evidence indicates that indiscriminate digital expansion has weakened learning environments rather than strengthened them."
The writing was perhaps already on the wall. Fortune reported in 2017 that Maine's public school test scores had not improved in the 15 years the state had implemented its technology initiative. Then-Governor Paul LePage called the program a "massive failure," even as the state poured money into contracts with Apple.
Gen Z will now have to face the ramifications of eroding learning capabilities. The generation has already been hit hard by the transformations of the 21st century's other technological revolution: generative AI.
Early data from a first-of-its-kind Stanford University study published last year found AI advancements to have "significant and disproportionate impact on entry-level workers in the U.S. labor market." But a less capable population means more than just poorer job prospects and less promotions, Horvath warned; it endangers how humans are able to overcome existential challenges in the decades to come.
"We're facing challenges more complex and far-reaching than any in human history—from overpopulation to evolving diseases to moral drift," he told Fortune. "Now, more than ever, we need a generation able to grapple with nuance, hold multiple truths in tension, and creatively tackle problems that are stumping the greatest adult minds of today."
Classroom technology usage has ballooned in recent years. A 2021 EdWeek Research Center poll of 846 teachers found 55% said they are spending one to four hours per day with educational tech. Another quarter reported using the digital tools five hours per day.
While teachers may be intending for these tools to be strictly educational, students often have different ideas. According to a 2014 study, which surveyed and observed 3,000 university students, students engaged in off-task activities on their computers nearly two-thirds of the time.
Horvath blamed this tendency to get off-track as a key contributor to technology hindering learning. When one's attention is interrupted, it takes time to refocus. Task-switching also is associated with weaker memory formation and greater rates of error. Grappling with a challenging singular subject matter is hard, Horvath said. For the best learning to happen, it's supposed to be.
"Unfortunately, ease has never been a defining characteristic of learning," he said. "Learning is effortful, difficult, and oftentimes uncomfortable. But it's the friction that makes learning deep and transferable into the future."
Sustained attention to a singular subject is anathema to how technology today has been deployed, argues Jean Twenge, San Diego State University psychology professor studying generational differences and the author of 10 Rules for Raising Kids in a High-Tech World. More time on screens isn't just ineffective in facilitating learnings; it's counterproductive.
"Many apps, including social media and gaming apps, are designed to be addictive," Twenge told Fortune. "Their business model is based on users spending the most time possible on the apps, and checking back as frequently as possible."
A Baylor University-led study published in November 2025 uncovered why this is: TikTok required the least amount of effort to use, even less than Instagram Reels and YouTube shorts, by balancing relevant videos with surprising and unexpected content.
Concerns over social media addiction have become so dire that 1,600 plaintiffs, across 350 families and 250 school districts, filed a lawsuit alleging Meta, Snap, TikTok, and YouTube created addictive platforms leading to mental health challenges like depression and self-harm in children.
Horvath proposed a swath of solutions to Gen Z's tech problem, at least as it pertains to classroom use. Congress, he suggested, could impose efficacy standards to fund research on what digital tools are actually effective in the classroom. The legislature could also require strong limits on tracking behavior, building profiles, and collecting data on minors using tech.
Some schools have taken matters into their own hands. As of August 2025, 17 states have cracked down on cellphone use in school, banning the technology during instructional time; and 35 states have laws limiting the use of phones in the classroom. In fact, more than 75% of schools have said they have policies prohibiting cellphone use for non-academic purposes, according to the National Center for Education Statistics, though enforcing those bans have been met with variable success.
Ultimately, Horvath said, the loss of critical thinking and learning skills is less of a personal failure and more of a policy one, calling the generation of Americans educated with gadgets victims of a failed pedagogical experiment.
"Whenever I work with teenagers I tell them, 'This is not your fault. None of you asked to be sat in front of a computer for your entire K-12 schooling,'" Horvath said. "That means we...screwed up—and I genuinely hope Gen Z quickly figures that out and gets mad."
Хех...
Znate kako su pričali da ako brat Zohran dođe na vlast u gradu Njujorku, sve ima da ode u kuras, da će da kriminal divlja a narod poludi. Well:
NYPD ANNOUNCES FEWEST SHOOTING INCIDENTS, SHOOTING VICTIMS, AND MURDERS IN RECORDED HISTORY FOR THE FIRST TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR (https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/PR004/nypd-fewest-shooting-incidents-shooting-victims-murders-recorded-history-the)
QuoteMajor Crime Declined 8% Citywide with Decreases Across Every Borough in February and 1,100 Fewer Reported Crimes Year-to-Date
Public Housing Sees Safest Start to Year in Recorded History with Fewest Shooting Incidents, Shooting Victims, Murders, and Robberies
Burglary Dropped Nearly 20% in February, Down Year-to-Date to the Lowest Level in Recorded History
Retail Theft Fell 24.7% in February Despite Traditionally Increasing During Winter Months
I dobro, ovo su samo neke čeripikovane statistike kojima se gradska vlada hvali but still...
Šta still, bilo je toliko hladno da se lopovima nije izlazilo napolje...
statistikama se vidno manipulira vidjeli smo to čak i na primjeru da očite nebijelce stavljaju kao bijelce da crnci ne bi ispali totalni negativci
osim toga možda djelovanje ICE-a daje rezultate
i kurtu i pantu su deportirali
Quote from: Truba on 05-03-2026, 12:54:08osim toga možda djelovanje ICE-a daje rezultate
A možda i ne jer je Njujork "ICE-Free zone" ove godine:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/16/cities-anti-ice-tactics
A prosle?
I ne fataju samo u gradu
Mnogi pljackasi dzeparosi i ostala stoka setkaju po gradovima
Mislim da je ipak friziranje podataka
ICE Barbie dobila otkaz u DHS-u:
Trump fires Homeland Security Secretary Noem after mounting criticism over her leadership (https://whyy.org/articles/homeland-security-secretary-kristi-noem-fired-trump/)
Ali carevi joj stavili ovakvu sliku:
(https://i.imgur.com/wBzB6EM.jpeg)
Vau, baš je sexy. Daj još neku!
Kristi je otišla, arguably, na bolje. Postavljena je za bude "posebni izaslanik Štita Amerika" a gde je taj Shield of Americas Trampova inicijativa za povećanje bezbenosti vezanoj za ilegalnu trgovinu narkoticima:
What is 'Shield of the Americas'? Kristi Noem takes new role after DHS ousting (https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/shield-americas-kristi-noem-takes-204101233.html)
Evo slika za Trumana da se naslađuje:
(https://i.imgur.com/7bDxwlF.png)
e pa ako je ovo tvoj tip zemke, truki, evo ti odmah i odgovarajuca glazbena podloga, trebat ce ti, hehe.
https://youtu.be/mdBU9Ah4qd4
ne volim babe
ali ova je simpaticna
i da oce mene neko ovako otjerati na bolje
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 06-03-2026, 12:09:42Kristi je otišla, arguably, na bolje. Postavljena je za bude "posebni izaslanik Štita Amerika" a gde je taj Shield of Americas Trampova inicijativa za povećanje bezbenosti vezanoj za ilegalnu trgovinu narkoticima:
What is 'Shield of the Americas'? Kristi Noem takes new role after DHS ousting (https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/shield-americas-kristi-noem-takes-204101233.html)
Evo slika za Trumana da se naslađuje:
(https://i.imgur.com/7bDxwlF.png)
Jedino što mi se ne sviđaju su njene oči...a oči su ogledalo duše.
to u sta gledas su umjetne trepavice, ne oci. oci su jos najbolje na ovom cudovistu. :cry:
Iznenadio sam se kad sam video godište, izgleda desetak godina mlađe.
Moram reći da je moj favorit u poslednje vreme Jasmine Crockett, ona mi je i politički bliža.
nisu bitne godine, vec je li u skladu sa svojim godinama. ne moze biti privlacna ako nije u skladu, ako preko vise dobi prebacuje elemente djevojke, itd. ako siluje godine i prirodu. ne izgleda desetak godina mladje, izgleda kao frankenstein.
to ukazuje i jamci da nije najbistrija u glava, a mnoge su od tih i zestoki psihopate.
Vidi se da je hirurški zategnuta baba.
Četri meseca mlađa od mene O ČEMU VI PRIČATE, JEBOTE.
Quote from: Meho Krljic on 09-03-2026, 05:59:57Četri meseca mlađa od mene O ČEMU VI PRIČATE, JEBOTE.
Sry Meho, ali i dalje GILF, u najboljem slučaju. :(
Mada, gledam sad njene godine, i Meho je u pravu:
Kristi je GILF zvanično od novembra, kad puni 55 godina.
Znači, još celih 8 meseci MILF!! :|
Quote from: Truman on 08-03-2026, 22:53:56Iznenadio sam se kad sam video godište, izgleda desetak godina mlađe.
Moram reći da je moj favorit u poslednje vreme Jasmine Crockett, ona mi je i politički bliža.
Џасмин је супер. Јес либералка, па јој је то минус, ал је много борбена, рјечита и има тако секси јужњачки акценат.
America's math and reading scores tanked after schools ditched textbooks for screens—and AI could worsen the brain rot (https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/america-math-reading-scores-tanked-082500845.html)
QuoteA Brookings Institute study (https://www.brookings.edu/articles/a-new-direction-for-students-in-an-ai-world-prosper-prepare-protect/)published in January laid bare anxieties around the potential harms of AI in the classroom. Analyzing data from interviews and focus groups with more than 500 educators, parents, and students across 50 countries, as well as from more than 400 studies, the researchers found at this point, "risks of utilizing generative AI in children's education overshadow its benefits."
The report gave credence to early research—including a February 2025 Microsoft study (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf)—finding AI use was associated with worse judgement and critical thinking skills.
"The cognitive offloading, and the cognitive decline that's associated with that, the decline in critical thinking, and just even reading and writing and knowledge of basic facts—I absolutely believe that," to be the case, Mary Burns, an education consultant and co-author of the Brookings Institute study, told Fortune.