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Plut

Ne znam da li je baš tipičan, ali da ih ima, ima ih...

Usul

Ovo je smesno koliko i pokusaji komike u policijskoj akademiji 5... (ne kazem da nema takvih tipova ali ipak...)
God created Arrakis to train the faithful.

Plut

A poenta je da bude smešno?  :shock: Ja to nisam tako shvatila.

Savajat Erp

А како је требало да буде? Иронично? Реално?
Niste mi verovali da ću da pucam?!
ZAŠTO MI NISTE VEROVALI?!!!!

zakk

Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Plut

E vala, baš jeste glupost i to neviđena.

Savajat Erp

мда...искористили су један од многобројних квазисмешних домаћих испрдака на тјубу.
Niste mi verovali da ću da pucam?!
ZAŠTO MI NISTE VEROVALI?!!!!

Karl Rosman

Voli Balkan Andju nema sta. Nego, ovaj voditelj mi nekako lici na onog, onog...uf...mislim da je bio preCednik HDZ-a za Bosnu...kako se zvase?

BalkanFail - Angelina Jolie Kisla mi je glova
"On really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion."
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won over it"

Plut


Джон Рейнольдс

Uzeo Borhan malo sedativa pred snimanje, da mu ne bude hladno. I on je živo biće.  :|

Boris Tadić zeza gladan narod
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Savajat Erp

Niste mi verovali da ću da pucam?!
ZAŠTO MI NISTE VEROVALI?!!!!


Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

Melkor

Via ghoul:

Kid Crazy: Why We Exaggerate the Joys of Parenthood
By John Cloud Friday, March 4, 2011

All parents know that having kids is a blessing — except when it's a nightmare of screaming fits, diapers, runny noses, wars over bedtimes and homework and clothes. To say nothing of bills too numerous to list. Some economists have argued that having kids is an economically silly investment; after all, it's cheaper to hire end-of-life care than to raise a child. Now comes new research showing that having kids is not only financially foolish but that kids literally make parents delusional.

Researchers have known for some time that parents with minors who live at home report feeling calm significantly less often than than people who don't live with young children. Parents are also angrier and more depressed than nonparents — and each additional child makes them even angrier. Couples who choose not to have kids also have better, more satisfying marriages than couples who have kids. (More on Time.com: Charlie Sheen's Twins Are Taken Away from Him. What Happens Now?)

To be sure, all such evidence will never outweigh the desire to procreate, which is one of the most powerfully encoded urges built into our DNA. But a new paper shows that parents fool themselves into believing that having kids is more rewarding than it actually is. It turns out parents are in the grip of a giant illusion.

The paper, which appears in the journal Psychological Science, presents the results of two studies conducted by Richard Eibach and Steven Mock, psychologists at the University of Waterloo in Ontario. The studies tested the hypothesis that "idealizing the emotional rewards of parenting helps parents to rationalize the financial costs of raising children."

Their hypothesis comes out of cognitive-dissonance theory, which suggests that people are highly motivated to justify, deny or rationalize to reduce the cognitive discomfort of holding conflicting ideas. Cognitive dissonance explains why our feelings can sometimes be paradoxically worse when something good happens or paradoxically better when something bad happens. For example, in one experiment conducted by a team led by psychologist Joel Cooper of Princeton, participants were asked to write heartless essays opposing funding for the disabled. When these participants were later told they were really compassionate — which should have made them feel better — they actually felt even worse because they had written the essays. (More on Time.com: Why Parents Should Play Video Games With Their Daughters)

Here's how cognitive-dissonance theory works when applied to parenting: having kids is an economic and emotional drain. It should make those who have kids feel worse. Instead, parents glorify their lives. They believe that the financial and emotional benefits of having children are significantly higher than they really are.

To test their hypothesis, Eibach and Mock recruited 80 parents at public locations in the northeastern U.S. Forty-seven of the parents were women, and all had at least one child under 18. Eibach and Mock then split the participants into two groups. Those in the first group were asked to read U.S. Department of Agriculture data from 2004 showing that it costs an average middle-income family in the Northeast $193,680 to raise a child to the age of 18.

The second group was asked to read the same data, but participants in that group also received information that adult children provide financial and other support to aging parents so that parents are often more financially secure in their later years than nonparents.

Both groups then read eight statements about parenting and rated their agreement with those statements on a five-point scale from -2 (strongly disagree) to +2 (strongly agree). The statements included falsehoods like "Nonparents are more likely to be depressed than parents" and "Parents experience a lot more happiness and satisfaction in their lives compared to people who have never had children." (More on Time.com: Perspective on the Parenting Debate: Rich Parents Don't Matter?)

The results confirmed Eibach and Mock's hypothesis. Parents who read only the data showing how expensive kids are should have responded more negatively to parenting. But in fact they idealized parenting far more than those who were also given the information about the benefits of parenting later on.

Why? For the same reason you keep spending money to fix up an old car when it just doesn't work — or keep investing in the same company when it's failing. Humans throw good money after bad all the time. When we have invested a lot in a choice that turns out to be bad, we're really inept at admitting that it didn't make rational sense. Other research has shown that we romanticize our relationships with spouses and partners significantly more when we believe we have sacrificed for them. We like TVs that we've spent a lot to buy even though our satisfaction is no lower when we watch a cheaper television set.

To confirm their results, Eibach and Mock conducted a second experiment, this time with 60 parents. The second study was identical to the first but added a control group that got no information about parenting at all. The second experiment also added measures of participants' enjoyment of time spent with their kids and intentions to spend future time with them. And the subjects were asked to compare spending time with their children to spending time with their spouse or partner, spending time with their best friend, and spending time on a favorite hobby.

Once again, those who read only about how expensive kids are idealized parenthood far more than those who read about both the costs and the benefits of raising children (and far more than the control group did). They were also significantly more likely to believe that spending time with kids is more rewarding than other activities, even though researchers have found that when you measure how rewarding parents found any given day spent with their children, they rated that day worse than they had expected to. (More on Time.com: What's the Deal with 'Baby Yoga'?)

Does this mean you shouldn't have kids? Yes — but you won't. Our national fantasy about the joys of parenting permeates the culture. Never mind that it wasn't always like this. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, we thought nothing of requiring kids to get jobs even before they hit puberty. Few thought of it as abuse. Reformers helped change the system — and rightly so — so that children could be educated. But this created a conundrum. As Eibach and Mock write, "As children's economic value plummeted, their perceived emotional value rose, creating a new cultural model of childhood that [one researcher] aptly dubbed 'the economically worthless but emotionally priceless child.'" Or, as the writer Jennifer Senior put it in a New York magazine article last summer, "Kids, in short, went from being our staffs to being our bosses."

Of course parents should be commended for one little thing they do: maintain the existence of humanity. I praise them for that, but I think they're both heroes and suckers.
"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

Mark

@ creepy girl

Genijalno! I ja bih se usr'o od stra'a!
Dos'o Sveti Petar i kaze meni Djordje di je ovde put za Becej, ja mu kazem mani me se, on kaze: Pricaj ne's otici u raj!
E NES NI TI U BECEJ!

http://kovacica00-24.blogspot.com/

Agota

I ja nema strasnijih stvorenja od dece i insekata
This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...

Savajat Erp

...и одраслих мачака  :lol:
Niste mi verovali da ću da pucam?!
ZAŠTO MI NISTE VEROVALI?!!!!

Agota

Quote from: Savajat Erp on 07-03-2011, 00:32:17
...и одраслих мачака  :lol:
sa debelim repom  :?
This is a gift, it comes with a price. Who is the lamb and who is the knife. Midas is king and he holds me so tight. And turns me to gold in the sunlight ...

mac

    * Jesus hates zombies.
    * But wait, wasn't Jesus himself technically a zombie?
    * No, Jesus was resurrected; zombies are reanimated.
    * What's the difference between resurrection and reanimation?
    * When one is resurrected one has a soul and when one is reanimated one does not.
    * Wait a minute. Are you honestly telling me that if they reanimated James Brown that he would not have a soul?
    * Well...
    * I mean, he is the Godfather of Soul!
    * Yes, but he is a special exception.
    * Are you trying to tell me James Brown is Jesus?
    * Well, the Savior at least....

zakk

Scattered Trees / Love and Leave

Nije glupost ali nije ni da nije... :D
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

zakk

Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

shrike

"This is the worst kind of discrimination. The kind against me!"

Plut


Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

Albedo 0


Savajat Erp

Niste mi verovali da ću da pucam?!
ZAŠTO MI NISTE VEROVALI?!!!!


Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

sandjama

ja sam psihicki ubica
covek sa dva lica
danju pocivam u miru
nocem vitlam sa sekiru
licnos' svoju krijem
nocas cu te ubijem!

Джон Рейнольдс

Kačio sam već ovaj Setov intervju, ali je na svako gledanje sjajan. Naravno, vrh je: "Does that make you pro-Palestinian?" A Set će na to: "What?!". Ili autobiografsko "I just exist."

Opaki propalitet.
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

#Τζούτσε

Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."


Melkor

"Realism is a literary technique no longer adequate for the purpose of representing reality."

Karl Rosman

07. HAL - Nikad ga nisam kontao kao robota...  :?
"On really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion."
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won over it"

tomat

pa valjda mu on dođe kao neki kompjuter, ne robot
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded.

zakk

I mene je baš začudilo i iritiralo. Čak i ako robota uzmemo kao 'telegentnu mašinu koja ide okolo i radi koješta, HAL<>Otkriće, pa to i ne stoji. Blah. Semantika...
Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Albedo 0

zašto bi nešto bilo robot ako ide okolo? Previše preuzimate od životinjskog svijeta, robot ne mora da ima dvije noge da bi bio robot, a svi roboti imaju kompjuter i vrše posao za koji su programirani.

HAL se tu ne razlikuje ni od koga drugog, on samo nije antropomorfan, bar ne u fizičkom smislu.

sandjama

rejnoldse overi ovo obavezno, ako vec nisi:

http://www.mediafire.com/?x5idxf5d5x72eeg

u pitanju je intervju sa saletom, bubnjarem iz heller-a. ono jes' da siroma' mnogo deluje nesredjeno, ali nisam mogao da se suzdrzim od smeha. car!


ja sam psihicki ubica
covek sa dva lica
danju pocivam u miru
nocem vitlam sa sekiru
licnos' svoju krijem
nocas cu te ubijem!

Savajat Erp

Niste mi verovali da ću da pucam?!
ZAŠTO MI NISTE VEROVALI?!!!!

Mark

Dos'o Sveti Petar i kaze meni Djordje di je ovde put za Becej, ja mu kazem mani me se, on kaze: Pricaj ne's otici u raj!
E NES NI TI U BECEJ!

http://kovacica00-24.blogspot.com/

zakk

Why shouldn't things be largely absurd, futile, and transitory? They are so, and we are so, and they and we go very well together.

Albedo 0

Naprednjake ništa ne može da zaustavi.


A evo i škotske verzije

http://biggeekdad.com/2010/08/elevator/

Karl Rosman

"On really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion."
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won over it"

Karl Rosman

Quote from: Bata Životinja on 12-03-2011, 15:26:10
zašto bi nešto bilo robot ako ide okolo? Previše preuzimate od životinjskog svijeta, robot ne mora da ima dvije noge da bi bio robot, a svi roboti imaju kompjuter i vrše posao za koji su programirani.

HAL se tu ne razlikuje ni od koga drugog, on samo nije antropomorfan, bar ne u fizičkom smislu.

Definitions of robot on the Web:

automaton: a mechanism that can move automatically

wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
"On really romantic evenings of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion."
"Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won over it"

Albedo 0

A robot is a virtual or mechanical artificial agent. In practice, it is usually an electro-mechanical machine which is guided by computer or electronic programming, and is thus able to do tasks on its own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot

dakle, HAL jeste robot.

Джон Рейнольдс

Quote from: sandjama on 12-03-2011, 15:30:02
rejnoldse overi ovo obavezno, ako vec nisi:

http://www.mediafire.com/?x5idxf5d5x72eeg

u pitanju je intervju sa saletom, bubnjarem iz heller-a. ono jes' da siroma' mnogo deluje nesredjeno, ali nisam mogao da se suzdrzim od smeha. car!

Raspad. Nažalost, voditelj pati od Ivon sindroma i ne ume da se snađe s... "nesređenima". Miler taman pao u vatru, hoće čovek da priča o Hogaru koga su izboli skinsi, a ovaj ga prekida ozbiljno intoniranim idiotizmima tipa - da li im je svirka s Švabama otvorila neka vrata, itd itd. Rat izbio, kakva crna vrata! Pusti čoveka da priča o Hogaru (znaš Hogara  :lol: ) i skinsima!

S tim da moram primetiti da Sale baš zvuči kao klasični pajdo raspad, ali ipak nije srpski Set.
America can't protect you, Allah can't protect you... And the KGB is everywhere.

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sandjama

ma jok dzone nisam ni mislio da ga poredim sa setom, nego mi palo na pamet da bi moglo da te zanima, pa reko' da stavim.
ja sam psihicki ubica
covek sa dva lica
danju pocivam u miru
nocem vitlam sa sekiru
licnos' svoju krijem
nocas cu te ubijem!

tomat

Quote from: Bata Životinja on 12-03-2011, 17:03:29
A robot is a virtual or mechanical artificial agent. In practice, it is usually an electro-mechanical machine which is guided by computer or electronic programming, and is thus able to do tasks on its own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot


dakle, HAL jeste robot.

ali HAL nije mehanička naprava, niti elektro-mehanička mašina vođena kompjuterom ili elektronskim programom. on JESTE kompjuter, odnosno elektronski program. on kontroliše otvaranje/zatvaranje vrata, pomeranje antene za komunikaciju, kapsula i slično, ali ga te mehaničke radnje ne čine robotom. to je kao kada bi ja rekao da je moj računar robot zato što pomera glavu štampača.
Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded.

Albedo 0

Tomat, ja i ti bolje da ne počinjemo :)

samo ću reći da si odsjekao pola definicije robota

robot nije an electro-mechanical machine

Robot je an electro-mechanical machine which is guided by computer or electronic programming

Ne možeš pola definicije da izbaciš, robotom ne upravljaju vjeverice već je njegov mozak uvijek kompjuter. ne može ništa drugo da bude

osim toga, HAL nije ''kompjuter'', on je super-kompjuter, tako ga i nazivaju, on upravlja brodom, upravlja elektro-mehaničkim dijelom