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Quote from: D. on 31-10-2013, 21:32:38
http://www.voxfeminae.net/treba/pogledati/2394-ene-i-filmovi-strave-najbolji-horor-filmovi-enskih-redateljica (http://www.voxfeminae.net/treba/pogledati/2394-ene-i-filmovi-strave-najbolji-horor-filmovi-enskih-redateljica)




ŽENE I FILMOVI STRAVE: 15 HOROR FILMOVI ŽENSKIH REDATELJICA PIŠE // Vanja Veršić[/color]
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Quote from: D. on 31-10-2013, 22:06:08
Ne znam. Ja nekako imam problem.

Quote from: D. on 13-10-2013, 17:34:33
Zenski ispitanici. Dodjavola.

Quote from: Spoljašnje protivrječje on 13-10-2013, 18:14:25
a ti bi i tu da mijenjaš rod, nepismena ŽENO?

Quote from: Ghoul on 29-10-2013, 14:59:29
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2F25s924k.jpg&hash=c51d5565349f26cf6ef0373a711423ad7540c944)

Quote from: mac on 18-12-2013, 12:52:54
Ova slika će me progoniti u noćnim morama... strašno.

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 18-12-2013, 13:01:45
evo, imaš ovde galeriju pa gledaj:

http://nightlife.24sata.rs/single/mr-stefan-braun/1933/humanitarni-ponedeljak/61756#imageTop (http://nightlife.24sata.rs/single/mr-stefan-braun/1933/humanitarni-ponedeljak/61756#imageTop)

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One su Tijana Đuričić (23) i Sanja Jojić (26), studentkinje Više poslovne škole u Beogradu. Rođake su i imaju isti broj operacija kod istog plastičnog hirurga. Šokirale su javnost svojim izgledom, ali ih to ne potresa.



Imamo svoj stav, svoje mišljenje, srećne smo i zadovoljne. Najbitnije nam je da imamo podršku porodice, a svi ostali mogu samo da nas ostave na miru i gledaju svoje živote jer su naši savršeni - kaže Sanja na početku razgovora.

Ove crnke, koje su imale toliko intervencija da mnogi misle da su bliznakinje, nakon što su objavljene njihove fotografije sa jedne humanitarne žurke izazvale su buru negativnih komentara na internetu. ,,Nakaze", ,,greške prirode", ,,antireklama za plastičnu hirurgiju" bili su samo neki od izraza kojima su ih opisali oni koji su videli fotografiju.



Mnogi su se zapitali za njihovo psihičko zdravlje, a ove dve ,,kraljice silikona" uprkos svemu tome kažu da je sve na njima lepo.
 
- Prestali su da nas bole negativni komentari. Roditelji su uz nas, čak su nam davali i novac za operacije. Ja sam jedinica, tata mi radi u jednoj firmi, a mama je domaćica. Živim sama i trenutno nigde ne radim, već studiram - priča Tijana, koja ni sama ne zna tačno koliko je ,,plastike" u nju ugrađeno, ali dobro zna koliko je sve to plaćeno.

- U sebe sam uložila preko 10.000 evra, Sanja takođe. U menjanju izgleda imale smo podršku i estetskog hirurga. Muškarci se ne plaše da mi priđu, mada sada nemam dečka. Uživam u operacijama jer ne volim ništa što je prirodno. Mislim da sam lepa i ne vidim zašto bi moj izgled nekome drugom smetao - zaključuje Tijana koja se na ovome neće zaustaviti, uprkos reakciji javnosti.



Tijana Đuričić je prethodnih godina kao igračica u klubovima u zemlji i inostranstvu zarađivala novac za estetske intervencije. Od njih je očigledno postala zavisna do te mere da je, kao i njena rođaka, tri puta išla pod nož ne bi li postigla željenu veličinu grudi.
- Sad smo zadovoljne, imamo ,,osmice". I usne smo operisale nekoliko puta, tako da ne znamo koliko kubika nam je ubrizgano - kaže Tijana.
Devojke ističu da često izlaze, ali naglašavaju da same plaćaju svoje račune.
- Nismo sponzoruše i ne dozvoljavamo da nas tako tretiraju. Kada nemamo momke, kao što je sada situacija, izlazimo same. Inače smo devojke koje žive život punim plućima - ističe Tijana, koja nema samo čudan ukus po pitanju izgleda već i pri izboru kućnih ljubimaca pa je tako  ponosna vlasnica pitona.
 
Ovoliko je svaka dala za operacije

   
• Jagodice 1000 evra
• Usne 1800 evra
• Nos 2000 evra
• Grudi 5000 evra

PLUS:

   
• Trajna šminka 500 evra
• sočiva 100 evra
• nadogradnja kose 300 evra

Quote from: kimura on 19-12-2013, 13:31:04
Ко би рекао да су тако младе!  :(

QuoteUživam u operacijama jer ne volim ništa što je prirodno. Mislim da sam lepa i ne vidim zašto bi moj izgled nekome drugom smetao

Quote from: Mark on 25-12-2013, 23:07:18
Mada vidim pala šamarčina.

Quote from: scallop on 27-12-2013, 14:14:48
To nema veze sa nekim "srpskim svetonazorom". Internet je pun idiota koji žele da skrenu pažnju na sebe. Mada nemam protiv da se neki ovde i time bave. Ako nemaju ništa pametnije.

Quote from: scallop on 27-12-2013, 14:59:40
Nekako nisam Srbin po Batinim kriterijumima i zadovoljan sam zbog toga. Više sam relikt nekih mudrijih vremena

Quote from: Bata Živojinović on 27-12-2013, 15:31:00

2. Karađorđe Petrović najveći srpski tajkun.

Quote from: scallop on 27-12-2013, 16:02:06
mogu da se složim sa ocenama tajkunizma i korupcije u Srba, što se tiče literature ne bih

Quote from: scallop on 27-12-2013, 16:02:06
Međutim, nezasitnost posedovanja nije karakteristika Srba nego naše civilizacije uopšte. To što je kod nas u vreme socijalizma bilo nešto bolje je samo zato što alavi nisu imali dovoljno stepena slobode.

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A poll of hundreds of men found that, while men want someone who has a sense of humor (so she will laugh at his jokes), most men aren't interested in bedding the next Tina Fey. Why? According to the expert: "When forced to choose between humor production and humor appreciation in potential partners, women valued humor production, whereas men valued receptivity to their own humor."

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 22-01-2014, 23:59:09
Pa, čujte, ako smo prirodno u proseku duhovitiji.

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 23-01-2014, 12:58:32
Bojim se da bih ceo taj dan potrošio na igranje sa delovima anatomije za koje u normalnim uslovima plaćam da bih ih dodirivao pa bi mi te neke ozbiljne političke i solciološke teme potpuno promakle  :cry: :cry: :cry:

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 23-01-2014, 13:21:19
Ja sad kad god se žena nasmeje nečemu što kažem pomislim da ili želi sa mnom da strasno vodi ljubav ili... er... misli da sam smešan  :cry: :cry: :cry:

Quote from: D. on 23-01-2014, 12:41:28
Na prste ne mogu da nabrojim koliko su mi puta propali odnosi sa muškarcima jer nisam pristajala da se od mene pravi "iracionalna klinka u pms-u", koja više "oseća" nego što misli, nesposobna da tumači i sopstvene reči.

Quote from: D. on 23-01-2014, 12:41:28


Ne kažem, ima muškaraca koji su izuzetno ostvareni i dominaciju uspostavljaju stvarnim iskustvom i intelektom.

Pa nije slučajno prva stvar agresivno jebanje žene.

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 23-01-2014, 12:58:32
Bojim se da bih ceo taj dan potrošio na igranje sa delovima anatomije za koje u normalnim uslovima plaćam da bih ih dodirivao pa bi mi te neke ozbiljne političke i solciološke teme potpuno promakle  :cry: :cry: :cry:

Quote from: D. on 24-01-2014, 12:42:42
Šta ja znam, možda je gej. :)

Quote from: mac on 24-01-2014, 13:06:28
U tekstu piše (evo te pročitah) da šale imaju ulogu u društvenoj hijerarhiji, i da smejanjem praktično odajemo priznanje onome ko se šali. Drugim rečima ne važi samo "smejem se jer je smešno", jer ima i dodatak "i jer poštujem govornika". Muškarci nisu imuni na ovaj aspekt šala.

Quote from: D. on 24-01-2014, 13:55:12
Oh, nemoj tako bez smajlija, pomisliće ljudi da je jedina životna težnja žena da rađaju decu.


Edit: a muška da prevrću žene, htedoh napisati pa shvatih da možda i jeste tako.

Quote from: mac on 24-01-2014, 13:56:16
Tvrdi se da muškarcima ne leži da smejanjem stalno iznova ispoljavaju poštovanje prema ženi (a ja dodajem, ako su već u svemu drugom jednaki). Ovo "stalno iznova" je problem. Povremeno smejanje šali drugog je okej, ali svakodnevno smejanje akumulira osećanje podređenosti, koliko god da su šale smešne. Muškarac ne voli da ima to osećanje prema ženi (opet, ako su u svemu drugom jednaki). Ako je žena već superiornija onda će muškarac lakše da proguta i osećanje koje samo potvrđuje činjenično stanje, i smejaće se lahko.

Quote from: D. on 24-01-2014, 14:00:37
hahaha! :) skapirala sam ja, pa sam te imitirala :) )

Quote from: D. on 23-01-2014, 12:41:28
Meni nikada nisu bile jasne te muško-ženske igrarije gde se žena pravi glupa, ne bi li njen muškarac bio potentan, osetio se jakim i moćnim.

Na prste ne mogu da nabrojim koliko su mi puta propali odnosi sa muškarcima jer nisam pristajala da se od mene pravi "iracionalna klinka u pms-u", koja više "oseća" nego što misli, nesposobna da tumači i sopstvene reči. Mislim, shvatam ja da to njih uzbuđuje, ali meni, na koncu, ne treba osoba koju uzbuđuje tuđa inferiornost i treptanje. Naravno, sve se to završava njihovom infantilnom agresijom usled nemogućnosti da uspostave dominaciju.

Quote from: D. on 09-02-2014, 21:35:56
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A i svi znamo da se žene ovako kao u filmu nikada ne bi ponašale. ...

Quote from: Harvester on 10-02-2014, 20:09:20
Охохо, тамо се виде неке голе груди!

Quote from: D. on 11-02-2014, 13:24:07
Nije ovo tako banalan film kako se na prvi pogled čini. :) Zaebat je. A autor/ka je imao/la skrivene namere.

Quote from: D. on 11-02-2014, 13:24:07
Nije ovo tako banalan film kako se na prvi pogled čini. :) Zaebat je. A autor/ka je imao/la skrivene namere.

Quote from: Miljan Markovic on 05-03-2014, 13:10:13
Test. Da vidimo šta će ove, "feministkinje", videti u na slici.

Quote from: D. on 03-03-2014, 18:46:26
Rekla sam da nisam feministkinja

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Silicon Valley has long suffered the reputation of being unwelcoming to women, from brogrammer attitudes (http://www.thewire.com/technology/2013/09/controversial-cto-pax-dickinson-out-business-insider/69245/) to sexist apps (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/elements/2013/09/the-worst-joke-in-technology.html) to gender inclusivity (http://valleywag.gawker.com/culture-fit-is-a-shitty-excuse-for-marginalizing-wome-1186914306), but whatever problems women may have with the tech industry, wage discrimination isn't necessarily one of them. New research shows that there is no statistically significant difference in earnings between male and female engineers who have the same credentials and make the same choices regarding their career.                                                                                                                                             2                   A recent study by the American Association of University Women titled "Graduating to a Pay Gap: The Earnings of Women and Men One Year after College Graduation (http://www.aauw.org/files/2013/02/graduating-to-a-pay-gap-the-earnings-of-women-and-men-one-year-after-college-graduation.pdf)" (pdf (http://www.aauw.org/files/2013/02/graduating-to-a-pay-gap-the-earnings-of-women-and-men-one-year-after-college-graduation.pdf)) examined data on approximately 15,000 graduates to estimate the effect of gender on wages. Their sample was restricted to those under 35 years old receiving a first bachelor's degree, in order to avoid confounding factors which affect labor market outcomes. Regression analysis was used to estimate wage differences, after controlling for the following choices and characteristics: graduates' occupation, economic sector, hours worked, employment status (having multiple jobs as opposed to one full-time job), months unemployed since graduation, grade point average, undergraduate major, kind of institution attended, age, geographical region, and marital status.                  +          "Our analysis shows that occupations like nursing; engineering; and math, computer, and physical science occupations are the best-paying jobs for women one year out of college," the authors Christianne Corbett and Catherine Hill report. "These tend to be occupations that are well paying throughout a career as well."                  +          According to the study, there are seven professions with pay equity (see below). When controlled for all factors other than gender, the earnings difference between men and women is about 6.6%, something most people don't know. The casual observer often has an exaggerated view of the gender wage gap since occupational choices aren't reflected in the statistics that are cited when the topic of wage equality is discussed in the media.                  2          (https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fqzprod.files.wordpress.com%2F2014%2F03%2Fprofessions-with-equal-pay-for-men-and-women-us-year_chartbuilder-1.png%3Fw%3D1024%26amp%3Bh%3D462&hash=eaaa3eb642c5c2aa8bcc56f633bc31200e8746dc)
Since men and women tend to choose different professions, occupational segregation explains some of the difference in the gender pay gap since men are more likely to choose higher-paying fields. This results in women being disproportionately represented in lower-paying jobs. So men may enjoy an earnings advantage, but it doesn't mean that women are being paid less for the same job.                  2          The most common explanation for lower wages in female-dominated fields is occupational crowding. Women may be crowded into some occupations, either due to a preference against (http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/09/11/220748057/why-women-like-me-choose-lower-paying-jobs), or a barrier to, entering a STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) field. As more women enter a particular field, the pool of candidates becomes larger. Employers are able to pay lower wages and still attract employees who meet the job qualifications. Over time, we see wages decline in fields that have many applicants and an increase in wages in fields that have few applicants.                  1          There is a negative correlation between the share of women in an occupation and the occupation's average wage, but it is almost always impossible to draw any causal conclusion from a simple statistical correlation. We can take nursing as an example of an occupation that is highly paid even though most of the workers are female.                  +          I asked University of Chicago Professor of Behavioral Science and Economics Dr. Richard Thaler if he thought social pressures influenced women in choosing lower-paying, predominantly female occupations. "Historically, that was certainly true," said Thaler, the co-author of the 2008 best-seller Nudge (http://yalepress.yale.edu/book.asp?isbn=9780300122237), which discusses the frameworks and biases that shape decision-making, "but my impression is that it is no longer the primary factor. I think that young women are certainly encouraged to take up traditional male fields much more now than in the past."                  +          And he's definitely right, particularly at the best universities in the United States. The 2013 entering class of Massachusetts Institute of Technology, which offers only a Bachelor of Science as an undergraduate degree, is 45% female (http://web.mit.edu/facts/enrollment.html), compared to 5% in 1966 (http://web.mit.edu/fnl/volume/184/hopkins.html). Last spring, there were more women than men (http://m.sfgate.com/education/article/Revamped-computer-science-classes-attracting-more-5243026.php) in the Introductory to Computer Science course at the University of California at Berkeley, which TechCrunch (http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/21/women-outnumber-men-for-the-first-time-in-berkeleys-intro-to-computer-science-course/) describes as a "feeder school to Silicon Valley's top companies."                  1          In his 2014 State of the Union Address (http://www.whitehouse.gov/sotu), President Obama said it was "wrong" and "an embarrassment" that women are paid 77 cents for every dollar a man makes, implying that the pay disparity is due to sexism and gender wage discrimination. His careful construction elides the fact that the 77% statistic does not refer to "equal work." That number is a Census Bureau (https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/index.html) comparison of the annual wages of all workers, regardless of occupation.                  +          The United States Bureau of Labor Statistics (http://www.bls.gov/home.htm) show that when measured hourly, not annually, the pay gap between men and women is 14% not 23%. The Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (http://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/re/articles/?id=2160) prefers working with hourly wages, arguing "an incomplete picture" is cast with weekly earnings because women work fewer hours than men, "which would make a gap in weekly earnings between the two groups substantial even if their hourly wages are the same." The BLS does have earnings data segregated by occupation and gender, but this is only a comparison of the same type of job. It doesn't compare wages for equal work in the exact same job, a distinction which is made even clearer when we are gently reminded, "It is important to note that the comparisons of earnings in this report are on a broad level and do not control for many factors that can be significant in explaining earnings differences."                  +          College majors also play a large role in predicting future wages. Yet even when men and women choose the same major, graduate from similar types of colleges and receive similar grades, women still earn less than men but female engineering graduates earn 88% of what male engineering graduates earn ($48,493 for women compared to $55,142 for men). So, what we are seeing is that there are some women who get engineering degrees but then don't become engineers. I studied computer science in high school and math in college but I'm neither a computer scientist nor a mathematician. Instead, I decided to make life choices that were more personally and spiritually rewarding: I was a rainforest conservationist in Brazil and a teacher in India.                  1          One reason that explains why there is a pay gap when measured by college major but not when measured by profession is that some female engineers abandon their careers months after starting (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/02/13/3287861/women-leaving-stem-jobs/). This would explain why overall annual incomes measured one year after graduation would be lower for these women. If employers are risk averse, wages offered will be lower where productivity is less easily predicted (and where lower productivity is already revealed). The issue in this case is not gender differences in productivity but, rather, how employers predict what kind of worker they're hiring based on his or her previous employment history.                  1          Also, some women don't go into the careers their college degree prepares them for because they have less attachment to the labor market (http://stats.bls.gov/OPUB/MLR/1995/09/art2full.pdf). Men and women who have intermittent labor force participation have lower earning paths for several reasons: their current skills depreciate, they don't receive on-the-job training, and they don't build up seniority.                  +          Another possible explanation for the lower earnings of highly educated women is that some women may not feel college is about building skills, but see it instead as an opportunity to demonstrate their value through signaling. Signaling in labor markets (http://www.econ.yale.edu/%7Edirkb/teach/pdf/spence/1973%20job%20market%20signalling.pdf) allows for employees to reliably communicate unobservable qualities to prospective employers in order differentiate themselves and gain a higher wage. The theory is that education can distinguish between a higher quality candidate and a lower quality one since the costs of education (time, money, effort) will be lower for the former.                  1          Corbett and Hill don't have data on women who work 30 to 40 hours per week (only 40 or more) but the BLS weekly earnings report showed that women who work 30 to 39 hours per week make 111% of what men make (http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpswom2012.pdf) (see table 4). It's possible that women who are more educated are able to work fewer hours because they have higher-earning partners.                  +          The magnitude and interpretation of the relationship between gender and wages remain in dispute. After adjusting for all the known factors, Corbett and Hill's model showed an "unexplained" 6.6% difference in wages between men and women who are full-time workers. Conflicting data from the BLS shows that some women who work full-time have a wagepremium, and earn 11% more than men. The tech industry is unique in its history of being "equal pay for equal work": A longitudinal study of female engineers in the 1980s showed a wage penalty of "essentially zero (http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2657263?uid=3739832&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21103569324573)" for younger cohorts and today, the two highest paying professions with wage equality are in technology (computer scientist and engineer).                  3          Despite strong evidence suggesting gender pay equality, there is still a general perception that women earn less than men do, and this perception is just one more factor discouraging women from entering the tech space.                  2          Follow Cynthia on Twitter @Nin (https://twitter.com/NinjaEconomics)jaEconomics (https://twitter.com/NinjaEconomics). We welcome your comments at ideas@qz.com.

Quote from: D. on 06-03-2014, 01:41:05
Sto puta sam vam rekla - nije moja krivica što vi ne razumete.  8)

Quote from: Miljan Markovic on 06-03-2014, 09:55:25
Svakako. Tebe kao svetsku žensku mogu da razumeju samo građani sveta. A da bi te i drugi razumeli prostudiraj fotku. Ako nekim čudom budeš dotakla srž onoga što ona predstavlja, možda ima nade za tebe.

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Can banning one school-yard word really change the world? Sheryl Sandberg says yes.
Sandberg -- the chief operating officer of Facebook and author of the best-selling book "Lean In (http://leanin.org/)" -- is spearheading the launch of a campaign today to ban the word "bossy," arguing the negative put-down stops girls from pursuing leadership roles.
"We know that by middle school, more boys than girls want to lead," Sandberg said, "and if you ask girls why they don't want to lead, whether it's the school project all the way on to running for office, they don't want to be called bossy, and they don't want to be disliked."
Sheryl Sandberg: Let's Ban "Bossy" (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/sheryl-sandberg-ban-bossy-22828071)
Sandberg said these attitudes begin early and continue into adulthood.
"We call girls bossy on the playground," Sandberg said. "We call them too aggressive or other B-words in the workplace. They're bossy as little girls, and then they're aggressive, political, shrill, too ambitious as women."
Sandberg's organization Lean In is joining forces with former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Girl Scouts USA CEO Anna Maria Chávez to launch a public service campaign called "Ban Bossy (http://banbossy.com/)." The banbossy.com (http://banbossy.com/) website gives tips for parents, kids, teachers and others about how to encourage young female leaders.
Girl Scout CEO: Let's Ban "Bossy" (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/girl-scout-ceo-ban-bossy-22828156)
Chavez said she got involved immediately after receiving a call from Sandberg, and believes the Girl Scouts are ideal partners for the new initiative. More than half of all American women were once Girl Scouts and two million girls are currently in scouting, she pointed out.
"Imagine a classroom in America where 50 kids are present: 25 girls, 25 boys," Chavez said.
"And the teacher walks into this classroom and says: 'Boys and girls, I have this really hard, difficult program that I need to solve that's gonna impact this country.' She writes the problem on the board and then turns around and escorts 24 of the 25 girls out of the room. ... She leaves one girl and 25 boys to solve that equation. That's what's happening every day in this country. Why wouldn't we want more girls to be opting in to building the right solutions this country."
The goal of the "Ban Bossy" campaign is to help girls and women feel more confident and comfortable as leaders.
"I was called bossy when I was in ninth grade," Sandberg recalled. "My teacher took my best friend Mindy aside and she said, 'You shouldn't be friends with Sheryl. She's bossy.' And that hurt."
Sheryl Sandberg: How "Bossy" Discourages Young Girls (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/sheryl-sandberg-bossy-discourages-young-girls-22828114)
While she and the other women leaders she is recruiting were able to persevere despite the taunt, many little girls can't, she said.
"If you look at the world, women do 66 percent of the work in the world. Woman produce 50 percent of the food. Women make 10 percent of the income and women own 1 percent of the property. We are 50 percent of the population. We are 5 percent of the Fortune 500 CEOs," Sandberg said. "We are 17 percent of the board seats. We are 19 percent in Congress. That's not enough for 50 percent of the population. We live in a world that is overwhelming run and owned by men."
During an interview at Facebook headquarters, she and Chavez are quick to point out that they are not encouraging rude, mean-girl behavior or bullying.
"Leadership is not bullying and leadership is not aggression," Sandberg said. "Leadership is the expectation that you can use your voice for good. That you can make the world a better place."
Sandberg said she hopes the campaign will open a dialogue with parents and teachers, to eliminate the use of the word "bossy," though she concedes this is not really as simple as banning one word.
"This is a word that is symbolic of systemic discouragement of girls to lead. We are not just talking about getting rid of a word, even though we want to get rid of a word," she said. "We're talking about getting rid of the negative messages that hold our daughters back."

Quote from: D. on 11-03-2014, 22:47:12
Čak sam i ja ovako divlja i protivna svim autoritetima, priznavala neke lidere u svom životu. Takvi mi ljudi nisu naređivali, oni su mi prenosili svoje iskustvo bez nametanja, i oni su me ohrabrivali da budem štagod i kakva god želim da budem.

Quote from: D. on 11-03-2014, 22:47:12
Takvi mi ljudi nisu naređivali...

Quote from: kimura on 23-03-2014, 15:13:04
http://www.politika.rs/pogledi/Istok-Pavlovic/287717.lt.html (http://www.politika.rs/pogledi/Istok-Pavlovic/287717.lt.html)

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 23-03-2014, 10:23:30
Feminist Porn: Sex, Consent, and Getting Off (http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/23/feminist-porn-sex-consent-and-getting-off/)

Quote from: Дадара on 24-03-2014, 00:20:07
Ljudi koji su nezadovoljni jer ne uspevaju da postignu stvari koje su van razmera njihovih prirodnih mogućnosti i talenata

Quote from: Дадара on 24-03-2014, 00:20:07
,,Žensko nezadovoljstvo čini današnji život mnogo stresnijim. Ljudi koji su nezadovoljni jer ne uspevaju da postignu stvari koje su van razmera njihovih prirodnih mogućnosti i talenata – sve je to jedna veoma loša pojava za svet u celini. Nezadovoljstvo pravi čudake i neprirodne ljude."


pa ovaj Tesla je genije

QuoteMoć prave žene je toliko velika da mislim da kada bi se pojavila jedna prelepa žena – a kad kažem prelepa, mislim na prelepu u duši, ponašanju i mislima, nešto kao boginja – kada bi se jedna takva odjednom pojavila negde na Zemlji, ona bi mogla da vlada celim svetom. Njeno vođstvo bi bilo univerzalno prihvaćeno

Quote from: D. on 23-03-2014, 23:06:04

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 23-03-2014, 10:23:30
Feminist Porn: Sex, Consent, and Getting Off (http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/07/23/feminist-porn-sex-consent-and-getting-off/)

Ja odavde ne mogu da otvorim ni jedan link iz teksta, Meho... pa ne mogu ni da dajem komentare napamet. :D

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Jasna Ognjenovic | 21/03/2014 13:26
Genije! Vizoionar! Video je buducnost u kojoj smo sada, jasno i nedvosmisleno, porazavajucu za musko –zenske odnose. Zene su postale jake, mocne, uspesnije od muskaraca na svim planovima, cini se da oni zaista vise nisu potrebni –postali su slabi, stes ih ubija, zene ih odbacuju kao ,,trutove". One ih ubijaju suptilnim zenksim metodama, koje su muskarcima nerazumljive, od kojih ne umeju da se odbrane.Vecina muskaraca poseduje fizicku snagu i racionalnu inteligenciju, ali je emocionalna inteligencija niska, tu su zene toliko superiorne, da ih je gotovo nemoguce dostici. Naravno da zene nisu zadovoljne. One zele nekog ko je jak, mentalno i emotivno, nekog na kog moze da se osloni, a da on u isto vreme moze da nadvlada njenu moc. Umesto toga suocavaju se sa armijom slabica, od kojih su neki otvoreno servilni, a drugi u nedostatku psiholoske moci za odupiranje koriste fizicku snagu.

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Tesla - srpski superstar | 21/03/2014 16:29
Strah od zena je prisutan u svakom Teslinom misljenju o zenama. Tesla nije voleo zene nego ih je obozavao. Najlakse je obozavati zenu. Ne mora nista da se uradi, ona nista o tome ne mora da zna. Zeni je potrebna ljubav a ne obozavanje. A za ljubav, Tesla nije bio sposoban, ni spreman da nesto od sebe zrtvuje. Ljubav je u davanju, a Tesla nije imao sta ikome da da. Tesla je verovatno i pobegao u nauku da bi pobegao od zena. Da je u pitanju neki obican covek koji ima ideje o zenama slicne Teslinim, psiholozi bi se lako usudili da kazu kakav je to tip muskarca u pitanju. Kad bi se moglo zaviriti u njegovo detinstvo, mnoge stvari o Tesli i njegovom stavu prema zenama bile bi jasnije.

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A A | 21/03/2014 18:44
Треба се присетити чему служи борба за равноправност полова. Служи томе да жена није власништво породице - оца или мужа, да није роба којом се тргује, да је нико не напада ако иде сама по улици, без мушке пратње... Само погледајте како се живи и дан данас у Индији или Саудијској Арабији, где се за женску равноправност није чуло.Треба ценити слободу, наћи прави начин да ту слободу искористимо као жене данас (за тражење баланса, како овде читатељи сугеришу), али немојте по слободи пљувати. Слободна воља је благо.

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Апсолутна истина | 22/03/2014 12:42
Тесла је апсолутно у праву. Као човек испред свог времена схватио је чак и у тим мутним временима сву погубност феминизма које је и осмишљено тако да изазове велике поремећаје у свету. Својом "еманципацијом" жена се удаљава сама од себе од своје природе и улоге. Деци су потребне пре свега мајке а мужевима супруге а самим женама је потребна та улога стуба породице. Распадом тог поредка распада се нормалан поредак у свету што је и циљ разноразних кругова који и пропагирају све те "идеје". Зато свака част нашем Тесли што је још једном изрекао једну универзалну истину коју данас мало ко жели да чује.

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Beba V. | 22/03/2014 16:16
Zena je tokom istorije toliko bila potcenjivana, omalovazavana, iskoriscavana i u svakom smislu totalno podredjena muskarcu (a i dan danas je zivot zene u nekim kulturama veoma obezvredjen); a muskarcu, koji je i zakonodavac, sve je oduvek bilo dopusteno. Ipak, kroz sve to, vidi se kakva je kukavica muskarac. Dok je zena kroz patnju razvila mehanizme odbrane, pocela da razmislja i da se bori za svoja prava, muskarac je poceo da nazaduje, a danas je totalno izgubljen u novoj raspodeli uloga medju polovima. Zao mi je za muskarce, ali ako je jedina njihova prirodna potreba dominacija nad zenom, a ne uvazavanje njene licnosti, onda ce biti porazeni zbog njihovog pogresnog nacina razmisljanja. Emancipacija zena je pokazala koliko je muskarac slab, sirov, pa i povrsan; njegov jak seksualni nagon je jos jedna njegova prirodna slabost.

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Нека Тамо Жена | 24/03/2014 08:18
Просто ми је невероватно како плитко људи расуђују и лупају етикете те једном те другом полу, а нико да се запита: "Зашто је до тога дошло?" Сигурно да је женама лепше и природније да буду само сестре, мајке, супруге, али од чега и како ћемо живети? Да ли СВАКИ мушкарац има жеље, воље и могућности да буде хранитељ породице, или има читава армија оних који посустају па пију, туку, свађају се, беже у разне пороке, оптужују жену за своју неспособност.Тесли је очигледно фалило искуство на том пољу, које ни генијалност не може надоместити. Цитирање његовох ставова иде само на руку нашем homo balkanikusu који још не може да се одлучи у којем веку живи и шта хоће (мало би домаћицу, мало к***у, мало манекенку, мало паметну, па ондаК опет приглупу....).У већем делу света су обавештени да је била индустр. револуција, да су полови равноправни (не једнаки), да свако може имати и више талената.Истина је да је наше друштво отворено мизогино и ту неће помоћи цитирање Тесле несрећног у љубави.

Quote from: D. on 24-03-2014, 12:29:09
Ta i ja sam govorila o sistemu...

Protumačila sam...

Quote from: Дадара on 28-03-2014, 21:24:26
ti prva ne popravljaš statistiku a onda se čudiš...

Quote from: D. on 29-03-2014, 06:16:46
... dekan ... izjavio kako "ne voli ambiciozne žene".

Quote from: Дадара on 29-03-2014, 12:18:53
jaka si ti statistika s tim bačelorom

ili sam trebao reći - bačeloricom

Quote from: mac on 29-03-2014, 20:16:40
Ali zašto bismo to tako uzimali?

Quote from: zosko on 29-03-2014, 22:42:42

Quote from: mac on 29-03-2014, 20:16:40
Ali zašto bismo to tako uzimali?

i to sto kazes. u biti ne postoji musko - zensko. sve je to privid.

Quote from: zosko on 29-03-2014, 22:42:42

Quote from: mac on 29-03-2014, 20:16:40
Ali zašto bismo to tako uzimali?

i to sto kazes. u biti ne postoji musko - zensko. sve je to privid.

Quote from: D. on 29-03-2014, 22:46:06
Igranje igara. Submisivnost-dominacija. Igru kvare žene koje ne bi da budu submisivne. I muškarci koji ne znaju kako drugačije da budu dominantni, osim na račun ženske submisivnosti. A samo je ljubav lek. Kada se ne bi brkala sa egom.

Quote from: D. on 29-03-2014, 22:44:08
I još ništa nisam učila (od novih veština i znanja). Te, na kraju, odoh sama - da učim nove stvari. A, u stvari, sistem me je odbacio jer nije hteo da mi se prilagodi.

Quote from: Father Jape on 28-03-2014, 07:57:24
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjrbGZwCQAAY1WR.jpg)

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,,Možda bi se jedino pogled na istoriju koji bi u središte postavio ženu mogao suočiti s centralnim paradoksom našega doba, da su žene u ranijim vremenima bile slobodnije nego danas. Preistorijske žene su lovile i trčale kako su htele, lutale kud su htele i slobodno legale s partnerom po izboru. Pravile su grnčariju i oruđe, stvarale pećinske crteže, sejale su i plele, igrale i pevale. Njihovo sakupljanje hrane bilo je ključno za život plemena i nijedan muškarac nije kontrolisao ni ograničavao šta one rade. U 'naprednim' društvima, muška dominacija je utkana u svaki aspekt života i stalno se iznova osmišljava pomoću mnoštva religijskih, bioloških, 'naučnih', psiholoških i ekonomskih razloga, kojima se opravdava inferiornost žena u odnosu na muškarce."
Ženska istorija mora da objasni a ne samo da ispriča; mora da ponudi razloge kako i zašto je došlo do ženske podređenosti, jer slavljenje čuvenih srčanih žena nije dovoljno. Nepoznate priče iz različitih perioda i različitih delova sveta o vitalnosti, hrabrosti i čvrstoj snazi žena čije nam sudbine autorka otkriva u ovoj svojevrsnoj istoriji tlačenja i zlostavljanja treba da budu inspiracija svima da izgradimo novi, bolji svet.
Uloga prvih žena bila je veća, njihov doprinos ljudskoj evoluciji neizmerno značajniji nego što je ikad prihvaćeno, a ženska borba se uvek iznova ponavlja. Ova priča miliona ugušenih glasova, od vladarki evropskog ,,doba kraljica" do postojanih  ratarki, pivarki, trgovkinja i seoskih šamanki, koje su širom sveta držale svoje zajednice na okupu i tako održavale u životu ceo ljudski rod, nije istorija feminizma, već istorija žena koja svrgava ,,falusoidnost istorije", ustupajući mesto istinskoj istoriji sveta.
Bez politike i polemike, ova briljantna i vrcava knjiga ruši vekove predubeđenja s ciljem da žene vrati na mesto koje im pripada – u centar kulture, revolucije, carstva, rata i mira. Obogaćena rezultatima opsežnog istraživanja, Ženska istorija sveta će preformulisati vaš koncept istorijske realnosti.
Ranija originalna izdanja donekle je uokviravala nametnuta akademska ozbiljnost, odsustvo humora i umiven jezik, jer se smatralo da je tema suviše ozbiljna da bi se s njom neko mogao šaliti. Autorka iskreno veruje da je tema i suviše ozbiljna a da se s njom ne bismo i šalili, kao i da istorija ne može verno opisati život ako nema ničeg smešnog. Ovo je prevod novog američkog izdanja celokupnog teksta – direktnog, drskog, tačnog i duhovitog.

Quote from: D. on 19-05-2014, 00:18:53
Preistorijske žene su lovile i trčale kako su htele, lutale kud su htele i slobodno legale s partnerom po izboru. Pravile su grnčariju i oruđe, stvarale pećinske crteže, sejale su i plele, igrale i pevale. Njihovo sakupljanje hrane bilo je ključno za život plemena i nijedan muškarac nije kontrolisao ni ograničavao šta one rade.

Quote"Women are the niggers of gender," the email said. "If you killed yourself, I wouldn't even fuck the corpse."
I blinked at my phone, fighting simultaneous urges to hurl my phone across the room in anger and cry. Later that day, someone texted me my address — telling me they'd "See me when I least expected it."
     I haven't been out to my car at night by myself since January 2nd.
My name is Brianna Wu. I lead a development studio that makes games. Sometimes, I write about issues in the games industry that relate to the equality of women. My reward is that I regularly have men threatening to rape and commit acts of violence against me.
If you are a woman working in the games industry, especially in a public way, you're going to experience harassment. I imagine telling my 12-year-old self that fulfilling my dream of making games would lead to constant threats. Would she still do it? Would any woman?
The problem with sharing these stories in broad terms is that people think men and women receive the same harassment online. They do not.  I'm not writing this piece to evoke your sympathy. I'm writing to share with you what prominent, successful women in the industry experience, in their own words.
Case Study #1: Nina The Myth: Everyone in the games industry experiences harassment. Women are just too sensitive about it.

The Reality: If you are a woman in the industry with a critical opinion, you will get a disproportional amount of criticism, hostility, and scrutiny compared to men.
"Anita Sarkeesian once reblogged a Tumblr post of mine and it ended up on Reddit. I got so much hate mail from dudes that I left the internet for three days," Nina said.
"They filled my Tumblr mailbox with the usual anon posts like, 'Die, you fucking cunt!' And, 'You'll know when I rape your mouth hole, bitch!' When I turned off anonymous messages, they made new Tumblr accounts and continued to spam me. Later, they discovered the link to my personal webpage and sent hate mail through there. I still get an occasional random hate message through my website."
Conclusion: I've personally never heard of a man in the games industry getting rape threats for having an opinion.
A male friend of mine that develops AAA games told me, "When a woman criticizes me, it goes to a different part of my brain than when a man on my team does. I get defensive really quickly. I'm trying to get better about it." I don't think his is a unique experience.
We live in a society that's sexist in ways it doesn't understand. One of the consequences is that men are extremely sensitive to being criticized by women. I think it threatens them in a very primal way, and male privilege makes them feel free to lash out.
This is why women are socialized to carefully dance around these issues, disagreeing with men in an extremely gentle manner.  Not because women are nicer creatures than men. But because our very survival can depend on it.

Case Study #2: Nicole The Myth: Women in the games industry get special treatment for being women, and your life can be made easier by your looks

The Reality: Many men believe women have no worth in the games industry beyond appearance. This means that an incredible amount of conversation focuses on sexual attractiveness, or appearance in general.
Nicole's Experience: Nicole Tanner is a former editor of IGN, and was one of the founders of "Girlfight." I talked to her recently about the harassment she received while running this groundbreaking all-woman podcast.
"If you want examples of self-esteem destroying comments, search for the PAX Girlfight panel on YouTube. At IGN, I'd simply ignore the comments because they were so bad. And that's sad, because I'm sure I missed out on some thoughtful discussion, but wading through the insults to get to the few good comments wasn't worth it."
A look at the YouTube comments for her 2010 PAX East panel is stomach-churning. A shocking number of them personally attack the women of Girlfight.
"I thought they would put some fucking hot girls up there to fucking look at. AM I RIGHT?"
"Only 1 out of 5 is hot, and that is Jessica. The rest need to be in the kitchen."
"Wow, now I realize why Jess is the only chick working in IGN that gets featured in videos."

Conclusion: The video game industry is particularly egregious at only representing women as sex objects. As such, many gamers are trained to only see women in that context.
When I've been attacked over my looks, it's hurt me very deeply. I am an engineer and a head of development for my company. My value to the industry is leading my team to make games, but that very basic reality is no defense against constant commentary on how I look. This constant stream of comments and insults aimed at your body, face, and presentation is inescapable, and rarely happens to men on the same level.
Case Study #3: Elise The Myth: Women should just laugh off online harassment and not take it personally.

The Reality: This kind of harassment leaves long-lasting damage. It affects our friendships, and can cause us to be distant from others.
Elise's Experience: "I have a guy who's writing fan fiction starring me and him. It's a pornographic fanfic, and he's on chapter 6. He anonymously submits chapters through my website with no identifying info or explanation. I just save them in a folder in case the guy turns out to be a stalker. But it's creepy and gross. I feel violated.
"But, the worst part is not knowing who the guy is. Is it someone I talk to on Twitter? Someone who emails me for advice? I could be interacting with this guy all the time and not know it. Everyone's a suspect.
"Every time I'm interacting with an enthusiastic fan, I'm wondering in the back of my mind, 'Is it you? Are you doing this to me?' And then I feel uncomfortable with the interaction. It taints any sense of ease or honest connection."
Conclusion: Paste Games editor Maddy Myers once told me, "You don't really recover from this kind of abuse. You just change." She's right.
Often, I'll see people lashing out at women they perceive as too bitchy or too confrontational. They don't understand that we are the sum of our experiences. The toxic environment causes us to change.
If people attack you online, you're going to get defensive quickly. If people sexually harass you,  you're going to grow more inward, and more protective. It's a very human reaction, and there is no way to face this daily reality without it changing who you are.
People don't understand Women in the industry are told by men what is valid for us to feel. The conversations tend not to recognize the reality of the situation, and the very real threats that can occur at gaming events or in our day-to-day lives. We're told it doesn't matter, to grow a thicker skin, and that men go through the same thing.
I have yet to talk to a man who has had to call a police officer due to a stalker, only to be told nothing can be done until they are physically assaulted. It's hard to explain what it's like to be at a gaming event, cornered by someone who claims to be a fan, and to be physically kept from leaving by someone holding you in place or putting their body between you and the exit.
The comments on stories about lived experiences of women tend to ignore these stories, or claim the issue is as simple as nasty messages on videos or news stories. The words and experiences of women are shouted down, or ignored.
I didn't understand this until I read Leigh Alexander's excellent piece (http://leighalexander.net/but-what-can-be-done-dos-and-donts-to-combat-online-sexism/), "But what can be done: Dos and Don'ts To Combat Online Sexism." One quote was so great, I made an inspirational poster out of it.
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.vox-cdn.com%2Fassets%2F4795310%2Fleigh.jpg&hash=79d1e58ebc2372316422a41beb6134097339c63d)



It's telling that men in the gaming industry, or simply commentators, refuse to listen to the reality of these situations and try to help. They'd rather talk over women and convince themselves of a fictional reality that's more comforting.
Writer Samantha Allen talked about this in a recent story (http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/it-doesnt-get-better-women-internet/) about her own experiences and those of other women she knows.
"In the wake of VidCon (http://www.dailydot.com/entertainment/sexism-on-youtube-vidcon-panels/), and as more and more women start speaking up about the harassment they face online, it's time to start realizing that our narrative of progress is deeply flawed. Things aren't getting better for women on the Internet; they're deteriorating and ignoring the problem amounts to being complicit in it," she wrote.
Writer Laurie Penny has also written about ongoing, organized harassment and smear campaigns. "This has become a normal part of my life as a person who dares to write in public whilst being both female and left-wing, but this weekend it's been particularly full on," she stated (http://laurie-penny.com/trolls-sabotage-unspeakable-things/). "Rape fantasies and pictures of dead children were coming faster than I could block individual users. In the end I had to step away from the internet, which was a pain because I need the internet to work."
Case Study #4: Carolyn The Myth: The game industry is a field men are drawn to more than women.
The Reality: Women are here, we love games, and we're not going anywhere.
Carolyn's Experience: Carolyn Petit is an editor for GameSpot. She shared her story of learning to deal with online harassment with me.
"It's been a constant part of my experience ever since I began working at GameSpot. And the reality is that before I took the job, I knew a certain percentage of young, straight men would vocally object to the presence of a transgender woman on the staff of a gaming site.
"They feel entitled not only to games, but to the communities that had built up around games. For these men, the presence of women on these sites was acceptable only if they felt that the presence of those women was intended to appeal to them.
"When the harassment started rolling in, I found that I was able to withstand it. With the support and acceptance of my colleagues, it was usually possible for me to dismiss the hatred I received as baseless, fearful expressions. I don't think the harassment is about me, I think it's about them.
"And I think the industry, and our place in it, is worth fighting for."
Conclusion: Damn right it is, Carolyn.
The industry is currently in the midst of a massive cultural shift. There's a growing disconnect between the nearly half of gamers that are female, and overwhelmingly male population of games journalists and game developers.
When you wonder why women aren't rushing to fix that balance, remember this is the fucking emotional and even physical minefield they're signing themselves up for. Growing a thicker skin isn't the answer, nor is it a proper response. Listening, and making the industry safer for the existence of visible women is the best, and only, way forward.

Footnote: Two of the names of women that agreed to interviews for this article were changed at their request.
Brianna Wu (https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal) is head of development at Giant Spacekat, and host of the Isometric podcast on 5by5 (http://www.5by5.tv). She's also a frequent speaker on women in tech issues.
Editor's note: We have disabled comments for this post. While most comments were respectful and within the guidelines of Polygon's TOS, our staff came to the decision that the piece could and should stand without comments. When a contributor wants to share something highly personal with our readership, we want to offer them a place to do that without having their stories called into question, shouted down or dissected (even by the commenters offering support). If you want to continue discussion of this topic, we'd encourage you to share your thoughts in this thread (http://www.polygon.com/forums/polynauts/2014/7/16/5904331/polynauts-ot-gender-sexuality-and-representation-in-gaming).

Quote"Women are the niggers of gender," the email said. "If you killed yourself, I wouldn't even fuck the corpse."

QuoteAug. 1, 2014 – A study of 1,400 ancient and modern human skulls suggests that a reduction in testosterone hormone levels accompanied the development of cooperation, complex communication and modern culture some 50,000 years ago.
The research, published in today's issue of the journal Current Anthropology, "uses craniofacial evidence to propose that lowered testosterone levels could explain the relatively sudden origin of modern behavior about 50,000 years ago," says University of Utah biology graduate student Robert Cieri.
Cieri conducted the study of the feminization of human skulls and faces with colleagues at Duke University in North Carolina before moving to Utah in 2012. A news release from Duke University is below.
"Humans are uniquely able to communicate complex thoughts and cooperate even with strangers," Cieri says. "New research on fossilized Stone Age humans from Europe, Africa and the Near East suggests these traits are linked, developed around 50,000 years ago, and were a driving force behind the development of complex culture."
Homo sapiens, or modern humans, first appeared in the fossil record about 200,000 years ago, but evidence of modern behavior, such as symbolic artifacts and advanced tools are only about 50,000 years old, he adds.
"Human fossils from after modern behavior became common have more feminine faces, and differences between the younger and older fossils are similar to those between faces of people with higher and lower testosterone levels living today," Cieri says.
He notes that lower testosterone is associated with social tolerance and cooperation in bonobos and chimpanzees, and with less aggression in humans. Cieri speculates that higher population densities could have triggered the shift towards lower testosterone levels, as people increasingly had to work together to succeed, and being highly aggressive became less advantageous.
"Whatever the cause, reduced testosterone levels enabled increasingly social people to better learn from and cooperate with each other, allowing the acceleration of cultural and technological innovation that is the hallmark of modern human success," Cieri says.
Note: Robert Cieri available only via cell and email through Aug. 15, and only sporadically through Aug. 3. Cell 203-470-7564.
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SOCIETY BLOOMED WITH GENTLER PERSONALITIES, MORE FEMININE FACES
DURHAM, N.C. – Modern humans appear in the fossil record about 200,000 years ago, but it was only about 50,000 years ago that making art and advanced tools became widespread.
A new study appearing Aug. 1 in the journal Current Anthropology finds that human skulls changed in ways that indicate a lowering of testosterone levels at around the same time that culture was blossoming.
"The modern human behaviors of technological innovation, making art and rapid cultural exchange probably came at the same time that we developed a more cooperative temperament," said lead author Robert Cieri, a biology graduate student at the University of Utah who began this work as a senior at Duke University.
The study, which is based on measurements of more than 1,400 ancient and modern skulls, makes the argument that human society advanced when people started being nicer to each other, which entails having a little less testosterone in action.
Heavy brows were out, rounder heads were in, and those changes can be traced directly to testosterone levels acting on the skeleton, according to Duke anthropologist Steven Churchill, who supervised Cieri's work on a senior honors thesis that grew to become this 24-page journal article three years later.
What they can't tell from the bones is whether these humans had less testosterone in circulation, or fewer receptors for the hormone.
The research team also included Duke animal cognition researchers Brian Hare and Jingzhi Tan, who say this argument is in line with what has been established in non-human species.
In a classic study of Siberian foxes, animals that were less wary and less aggressive toward humans took on a different, more juvenile appearance and behavior after several generations of selective breeding.
"If we're seeing a process that leads to these changes in other animals, it might help explain who we are and how we got to be this way," said Hare, who also studies differences between our closest ape relatives – aggressive chimpanzees and mellow, free-loving bonobos.
Those two apes develop differently, Hare said, and they respond to social stress differently.
Chimpanzee males experience a strong rise in testosterone during puberty, but bonobos do not. When stressed, the bonobos don't produce more testosterone, as chimps do, but they do produce more cortisol, the stress hormone.
Their social interactions are profoundly different and, relevant to this finding, their faces are different, too. "It's very hard to find a brow-ridge in a bonobo," Hare said.
Cieri compared the brow ridge, facial shape and interior volume of 13 modern human skulls older than 80,000 years, 41 skulls from 10,000 to 38,000 years ago, and a global sample of 1,367 20th century skulls from 30 different ethnic populations.
The trend that emerged was toward a reduction in the brow ridge and a shortening of the upper face, traits which generally reflect a reduction in the action of testosterone.
There are a lot of theories about why, after 150,000 years of existence, humans suddenly leapt forward in technology. Around 50,000 years ago, there is widespread evidence of producing bone and antler tools, heat-treated and flaked flint, projectile weapons, grindstones, fishing and birding equipment and a command of fire. Was this driven by a brain mutation, cooked foods, the advent of language or just population density?
The Duke study argues that living together and cooperating put a premium on agreeableness and lowered aggression and that, in turn, led to changed faces and more cultural exchange.
"If prehistoric people began living closer together and passing down new technologies, they'd have to be tolerant of each other," Cieri said. "The key to our success is the ability to cooperate and get along and learn from one another."
This research was supported by the National Science Foundation, the Leakey Foundation and the University of Iowa Orthodontics Department.

   
• Group one is the control group; their competition is just like that in round 2.
• Group two has quotas added to the competition: there will be two winners, as in round 2, but one of them must be a woman. In practice, this means that the best performing woman will always win, even if that means a better performing man is prevented from winning.
• Group 3 experiences weak preferential treatment: when a man and a woman have the same score, the woman wins, and the equally well performing man may not. (Remember that there are two winners in each group. If a man and a woman tie for best, they both win in Group 3. But if a man and a woman tie for second best, then the woman joins the best performer as one of the two winners.)
• Group 4 experiences strong preferential treatment: when a woman's score is just slightly less than a man's, the woman still wins, and the man may not. (If the man was best and the woman next best, they both still win. If the man came in second and the woman was third, then she will win over him, if her score was very close to his.)
• Group 5 has a requirement that at least one woman is among the two winners, but the scores are not manipulated. If the result of the competition gives no woman among the winners, then the competition is repeated until one is. (This could be like a requirement to re-do a hiring or promotion process if no women are on the short-list.)

The large increase in competition entry by strong female performers shows the potential of policy interventions to improve the quality of participants. It is also encouraging to observe that strong male performers do not respond to policy interventions in a negative way.

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When Google disclosed (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/05/getting-to-work-on-diversity-at-google.html) its workforce demographics in May, headlines decried that a mere 17% of its technical staff was female. Yet women earn only 18% of computer science degrees, putting such employment figures in line with the ostensible supply. The numbers beg more questions than they answer, however, such as: why are there so few female computer science graduates? Is such a degree necessary for technical positions? If women are being squeezed out, when and how is that happening?
There are many theories. One asserts that prejudice against women's abilities throws barriers in their way; a related perspective suggests women are less likely to enter technical fields because they expect such barriers. Intriguingly, women and girls seem to be more prevalent in fields where computer science is part of a grander context, such as quantitative chemistry; these are not counted in the "computer science" statistics, or reflected in the low percentages of women employed at Google, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, or Pinterest.
The Three Ages of Woman In math and science overall, high school girls earn more credits than boys—and get higher grades. Yet girls comprise only 18% of the students who take the Advanced Placement (AP) Computer Science exam, which strongly emphasizes programming and has only a small section on "Computing in Context."
"Boys fall in love with computers as machines; girls see them as tools to do something else," said Barbara Ericson (http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/ice-gt/8), a senior research scientist at the Georgia Institute of Technology who tracks the AP exam. "Then girls think, 'maybe I don't belong because I don't love them like the boys do.'"
"Girls who have strong math skills tend to have higher verbal skills than boys who are strong in math, which opens up new avenues to follow, like the social sciences." said Christianne Corbett (http://www.aauw.org/author/christiannecorbett/), senior researcher at the American Association of University Women (AAUW (http://www.aauw.org/)). "With computing, the social element isn't always evident. They ask, 'how am I going to make a difference in the world with a computer science degree?'" To that end, AAUW sponsors a one-day conference called "Tech Savvy (http://www.aauw.org/what-we-do/stem-education/tech-savvy/)" to expose middle-school girls to career opportunities in computing and other science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) fields.
Specialization grows in college, as computer science departments devise new degrees to mirror advances and market changes. However, that was not always the case. U.S. statistics show women proportionally earned twice as many computer-science degrees—around 35% of the total granted—in the early 1980s, when "computer science" was less specific. Valerie Barr (http://women.acm.org/profile-ValerieBarr), chair of ACM's Council on Women in Computing (ACM-W (http://women.acm.org/)), believes the retreat was caused partly by the growth of personal computers. "The students who graduated in 1984 were the last group to start college before there was personal computing. So if you were interested in bioinformatics, or computational economics, or quantitative anthropology, you really needed to be part of the computer science world. After personal computers, that wasn't true any more."
In her position as a professor of computer science at Union College (http://cs.union.edu/%7Ebarrv/), Barr found contextualizing computer science classes led to an increase in female enrollment. "We said, 'let's show them that computer science can be useful by giving themes to the introductory CS courses, so students can see their relevance,'" she said. "For us, it's been enormously successful. Ten years ago we taught the introductory course to 29 students, and 14% of them were women. This year there were over 200 students, and 39% of them were women." Beyond college, Barr said, she'd also like to see "a bigger funnel into the corporate world and the tech industry, with people coming from many other majors. It doesn't have to be just CS majors."
It is harder to understand the state of women in computing in the professional world, particularly at private companies such as Google. Lucy Sanders (http://www.ncwit.org/profile/lucy-sanders), CEO and co-founder of the National Center for Women and Information Technology (NCWIT (http://www.ncwit.org/)), noted that compared to universities, "corporations are all different, and they're all very private."
If women don't get satisfaction at such companies, they might be taking their talents elsewhere. NCWIT senior research scientist Catherine Ashcraft (http://www.ncwit.org/profile/catherine-ashcraft) cites the 2008 Harvard Business Review study "The Athena Factor (http://documents.library.nsf.gov/edocs/HD6060-.A84-2008-PDF-Athena-factor-Reversing-the-brain-drain-in-science,-engineering,-and-technology.pdf)," which found that "56% of technical women leave their private sector jobs by mid-career," she said. "But 75% continue to work full-time, and approximately half of these continue to work in technical occupations. They just go to government, non-profit, and startup environments. So they aren't leaving because they don't like tech, or aren't good at it."
Women's participation is also highest in professions where computing is part of a bigger context, such as web development (40%) and data analytics (around 50%). Meta S. Brown (http://www.metabrown.com/), data analyst and author of books including "Data Mining for Dummies," found women do best in data analytics when it is not framed as computer science. "At events organized by the analytics community, there are plenty of women speaking and attending," she said. "But at data analytics events that come from the computer science, technology, Internet, or startup communities, you'll see far fewer women."
Does It Matter? As computing continues to find new applications, its value will increasingly depend on what philosopher Martin Heidegger called its "equipmentality (http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/b_resources/b_and_t_glossary.html)", or usefulness. That means removing walls between "pure" computer scientists—in schools, at universities, and in the workplace—and those who advance the field in the context of other goals. In doing so, more women are likely to have a say in the field.
NCWIT's Sanders referred to a recent study (http://www.ncwit.org/resources/what-impact-gender-diversity-technology-business-performance-research-summary) by her organization that showed how gender diversity affects technology business performance. "Computer engineering is a creative endeavor, involving hundreds of choices every day," she said. "What will the user interface look like? How will it react? How will it provide service to people? Women have their own life experiences and things they care about; so do men. Sometimes these experiences are similar, sometimes they are different. It makes sense that a team that's diverse would create better products."
Tom Geller is an Oberlin, Ohio-based science, technology, and business writer.

QuoteMean occurrence rate for experiencing orgasm during sexual activity with a familiar partner was 62.9% among single women and 85.1% among single men, which was significantly different (F_1,2848 = 370.6, P < 0.001, η²  = 0.12). For men, mean occurrence rate of orgasm did not vary by sexual orientation: heterosexual men 85.5%, gay men 84.7%, bisexual men 77.6% (F_2,1494 = 2.67, P = 0.07, η² = 0.004). For women, however, mean occurrence rate of orgasm varied significantly by sexual orientation: heterosexual women 61.6%, lesbian women 74.7%, bisexual women 58.0% (F_2,1350 = 10.95, P < 0.001, η² = 0.02). Lesbian women had a significantly higher probability of orgasm than did either heterosexual or bisexual women (P < 0.05).

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Adult women are now the largest demographic in gaming


By Aja Romano


Congratulations, gamer girls—you're officially at the top of the food chain when it comes to games. A new study released by the Entertainment Software Association has revealed that adult women now occupy the largest demographic in the gaming industry. Women over 18 made up a whopping 36 percent of the gaming population, followed by adult men at 35 percent.


Teenage boys, who are often stereotyped as the biggest gamers, now lag far behind their older female counterparts, making up just 17 percent of the gaming demographic.


The picture that emerges from the study is one of expansion across the board. More people are playing more games of various genres across more platforms, with social games on mobile and casual games on PCs emerging as huge leaders.


According to the study, last year saw a significant boom in women over 50—their numbers jumped by a whopping 32 percent between 2012 and 2013. The study also revealed that 59 percent of Americans play games, with gaming consoles present in 51 percent of all U.S. households.


All of that means that stereotypes are breaking fast in the gaming industry, particularly the longheld stereotype of the adult woman as an outlier who sticks to mobile games and "social" games on Facebook while the more hardcore gamer, the "serious" (male) gamer, goes for console games.


Though this stereotype has long persisted, and even been used as a hiring tactic, the new data suggests there's little if any truth to it—especially not when you consider that the average adult woman has been gaming for 13 years.


Sorry, male gamers of Reddit and 4Chan, but Angry Birds only came out five years ago. Unless you want to try to argue that women have just been playing Bejeweled for the last 13 years, the math just doesn't add up.


And while the total audience for mobile social games is now bigger than ever, the audience for computer and video games is now an even 50-50 split between male and female genders.

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Though this stereotype has long persisted, and even been used as a hiring tactic, the new data suggests there's little if any truth to it—especially not when you consider that the average adult woman has been gaming for 13 years.




Sorry, male gamers of Reddit and 4Chan, but Angry Birds only came out five years ago. Unless you want to try to argue that women have just been playing Bejeweled for the last 13 years, the math just doesn't add up.

Quote from: D. on 27-08-2014, 18:10:41
Ta možda su sa casual igara prešle na zahtevnije igre. :)

Quote from: Boban on 28-08-2014, 16:29:21
Ovo je jedna ambiciozna analiza sa tu i tamo pokojim ubadanjem u suštinu:


http://www.tata.rs/tekst-biti-musko/ (http://www.tata.rs/tekst-biti-musko/)

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Pronalaženje svetlosti u svojoj seksualnosti. Da bi se mladi muškarac uspešno odnosio prema mladoj ženi, on prvo mora da se oseća dobro u vezi sa time što je muško. Da bi bio uspešan ljubavnik, on prvo mora sebe da doživljava kao nekoga vrednog ljubavi, sposobnog da prima i daje nežnost. Biti seksualan muškarac ne znači biti gad. (Epitet kojim žene često karakterišu izvrnutu mušku seksualnost. "Muška svinja" je sinonim takođe često u upotrebi.) "Gad" se odnosi na posramljenu seksualnost. Biće sa niskim samopoštovanjem, takozvani gad, oseća da ne može da uspostavi intimna prijateljstva sa drugima, i zato pristupa drugima (ženi) kao objektu koji treba eksploatisati najbolje što može. To predstavlja ciničan pokušaj da se potvrdi putem dominacije. Očaravajuće iskustvo erotskog zadovoljstva i bliskosti pretvara se u svoju suprotnost posredstvom želje za moći proizašle iz osećanja krivice. "Ukoliko ne možeš da dobiješ ljubav, osveti se, dominiraj" – tipičan je način reagovanja "gada". Većina muškaraca se, u osnovi, još uvek stidi svojih "prljavih" seksualnih osećanja i doživljavaju svoju seksualnost kao nešto obično, kao svrab koji treba počešati. Postoji grubi i omalovažavajući stereotip koji muškarce u celini predstavlja kao "gadove": "Muškarci žele samo jednu stvar..." Muškarac treba da pronađe svetost u svojoj seksualnosti. Kada muškarac razreši pitanje samopoštovanja, kada umesto arogancije poseduje mirno samopouzdanje, onda može da priđe zreloj ženi kao nekome sebi ravnom, bez potrebe za moći i kontrolom. Međutim, da bi to mogao, potrebno mu je savlada još jedno preostalo čudovište-doživljaj da žene, svojom manipulativnom seksualnošću, upravljaju muškarcem (preko njeogove "druge glave"). Percepcijom žena kao posednica seksualne privlačnosti – kao onih koji imaju moć nad žđeljom muškarca – muškarci zapravo predaju svoju seksualnu energiju i moć ženama, i zato ih se i plaše pa pokušavaju da povrate dominaciju. Muškarci, zapravo, uzdižu žene na pijedestal, a onda ih mrze zato što su na njemu. Moramo da postanemo svesni da seksualna privlačnost žene ne leži u njenom izgledu, već u načinu na koji biramo da gledamo ženu. Život muškarca postaje mnogo bolji kada shvati da on sebe uzbuđuje (načinom doživljavanja žene) i da je on mozak sa penisom, a ne obrnuto. Oslobođeni straha od žena kojima pripisuju preveliku moć, a time ih se i plaše, muškarci postaju sposobni za opuštenu intimnost i ljubav. "Jednom kada ste vodili ljubav, seks vam više nikada neće biti dovoljan"

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Susretanje partnera na jednakoj ravni. Većina muškaraca i žena doživljava muško-ženski odnos kao borbu za dominaciju. Kao da postoje samo dve alternative: Biti "gazda", "pevac" u kući, dominantan mužjak i nasilnik (ovakvi muškarci odvraćaju od sebe žene sa samopoštovanjem), ili biti "mekani" savremeni muškarac koji je dosadan i kojim žena spontano počinje da dominira. Da bi uspostavio stvarno uspešan odnos sa svojom partnerkom muškarac mora da nauči kako da se prema partnerki (i ženama uopšte) odnosi kao prema različitom ali ravnopravnom biću. To znači da je poštuje, ali da poštuje i samoga sebe. Ukoliko žele da se dobro slažu sa ženama muškarci moraju da nauče da im se surotstave na ravnopravan način.
Kako se to suprotstavlja ženi na ravnopravan način?
Mnogo je muškaraca koji su ravnopravnost žena shvatili pogrešno (kao pravo žena da im se popušta). Jedno od čestih muških nesnalaženja je igranje uloge popustljivog nespretnjakovića ili slatkog duduka:

QuoteČetiri vrste defektnog oca:

   
• Muškarac koji je želeo da bude kralj – To je muškarac koji je naporno radio ceo dan i koji se vraćao kući kako bi ga dvorili njegova odana žena sluškinja i deca koja su se videla ali ne i čula. Takav otac se zaista angažovao samo kada je trebalo izreći kazne ili pomilovanja. To je takođe bio "videćeš kad ti otac dođe kući" tip oca. Tipična izjava takvog oca: "Dok živiš pod mojim krovom, radićeš šta ti ja kažem".
• Kritički otac – Stalno je omalovažavao i tražio dlaku u jajetu, gonjen i sopstvenom frustracijom i besom. Taj otac je nesumljivo bio aktivan u porodici, ali na potpuno negativne, zastrašujuće načine. "Jeli to najbolje što možeš, zar ne možeš ništa da uradiš kako treba..." Sve što ga je frustriralo, pretvarao je u kiselinu koja je nagrizala dobrobit njegove porodice.
• Pasivan otac – Otac koji je prepustio svu dužnost, odgovornost i moć svojoj ženi – majci. Takođe je popuštao deci, šefu, rođacima, društvu... On je, nekada davno, izgubio testise, i sada je sve tako teško da ne može čak ni da misli o tome. Pošto nije mogao da podnese pritisak, povlačio bi se iza novina, televizora, alkohola, nekog "hobija"... Njegova deca su rasla mrzeći ga što je takav beskičmenjak.
• Odsutan otac – Taj čovek je možda bio sposoban, čak i moćan, ali ne u porodičnoj areni. On je bio otsutan gradeći karijeru. Nije prisustvovao školskim takmičenjima ili koncertima svoje dece. Možda je plaćao svakakve stvari za njih, ali nije bio ni od kakve koristi u vaspitanju, jer otac mora da bude prisutan. Otsutan otac nije samo neutralna figura. Ako im nije zadovoljena potreba za ljubavlju, deca oca neće voleti zbog novca koji zarađuje, a neće biti ni neutralna prema njemu. Verovatnije je da će ga mrzeti. Žene treba da budu vrlo jasne u pogledu toga šta traže od svojih muževa, jer su muškarci skloni tome da predpostave da je njihova sposobnost privređivanja njihov najveći doprinos. Ostvariti i jedno i drugo, dobro zarađivati (prema standardu koji žena želi) i biti dobar otac, često je nemoguće. Ako se pravi da je nesvesna ove činjenice, žena gura muškarca u ulogu zbog koje je posle nezadovoljna.

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 03-09-2014, 08:51:02
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/index.php/extwidget/openGraph/wid/1_0uejklas (http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/index.php/extwidget/openGraph/wid/1_0uejklas)

QuoteBeing a feminist is boring sometimes, and the principal bore in feminism is having to deal with the same scanty responses over and over again. These can all be contained in one of the following three categories: 1) What About The Men, 2) Ah But What If Women Choose To Be Oppressed, and 3) Some Women Are Bad So Feminism Must Be Wrong. So, for example, if you wanted to raise a discussion about the heinously unrepresentative ratio of men to women in parliament, the responses would go like this: 1) all-women shortlists discriminate against men, 2) if women wanted to go into parliament they'd already be there, and 3) well you already had Margaret Thatcher and that didn't work out so well, did it?

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 03-11-2014, 08:20:11
Neki drugi se pitaju da li to feminstkinje žele da zabrane pripadnicima manjina da se obraćaju belim ženama (jer su svi muškarci u ovom videu Afroamerikanci ili Hispanici).

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 05-11-2014, 00:16:47
Da, pa sigurno da ovo nije snimano na Petoj aveniji i Brodveju već da su u pitanju seedier lokacije.

QuoteAnonymous asked: rewatching s1 for like the 100th time--at what point does all the brilliant animal sight gag stuff (eg the croc wearing crocs) get added? is it like, we need to have a croc wearing crocs, where can we fit this in? or do you start out by needing someone to guard the food and say let's do a crocodile--hey, he should wear crocs? or some kind of total afterthought, or something else entirely? thanks. love the show, my favorite of all time.
Hello! I am going to answer your question, and then I am going to talk a little bit about GENDER IN COMEDY, because this is my tumblr and I can talk about whatever I want!
The vast vast vast majority of the animal jokes on BoJack Horseman (specifically the visual gags) come from our brilliant supervising director Mike Hollingsworth (stufffedanimals (http://tmblr.co/mZyINCQ4ZA62kFVpHhjKt1A) on tumblr) and his team. Occasionally, we'll write a joke like that into the script but I can promise you that your top ten favorite animal gags of the season came from the art and animation side of the show, not the writers room. Usually it happens more the second way you described— to take a couple examples from season 2, "Okay, we need to fill this hospital waiting room, what kind of animals would be in here?" or "Okay, we need some extras for this studio backlot, what would they be wearing?"
I don't know for sure, but I would guess that the croc wearing crocs came from our head designer lisahanawalt (http://tmblr.co/mQlzrBINiNww30jOOLTPRPg). Lisa is in charge of all the character designs, so most of the clothing you see on the show comes straight from her brain. (One of the many things I love about working with Lisa is that T-Shirts With Dumb Things Written On Them sits squarely in the center of our Venn diagram of interests.)
NOW, it struck me that you referred to the craft services crocodile as a "he" in your question. The character, voiced by kulap (http://tmblr.co/mAfwZ4FlXl_8Km3n6ZFz1dw) Vilaysack, is a woman.


It's possible that that was just a typo on your part, but I'm going to assume that it wasn't because it helps me pivot into something I've been thinking about a lot over the last year, which is the tendency for comedy writers, and audiences, and writers, and audiences (because it's a cycle) to view comedy characters as inherently male, unless there is something specifically female about them. (I would guess this is mostly a problem for male comedy writers and audiences, but not exclusively.)
Here's an example from my own life: In one of the episodes from the first season (I think it's 109), our storyboard artists drew a gag where a big droopy dog is standing on a street corner next to a businessman and the wind from a passing car blows the dog's tongue and slobber onto the man's face. When Lisa designed the characters she made both the dog and the businessperson women.
My first gut reaction to the designs was, "This feels weird." I said to Lisa, "I feel like these characters should be guys." She said, "Why?" I thought about it for a little bit, realized I didn't have a good reason, and went back to her and said, "You're right, let's make them ladies."
I am embarrassed to admit this conversation has happened between Lisa and me multiple times, about multiple characters.
The thinking comes from a place that the cleanest version of a joke has as few pieces as possible. For the dog joke, you have the thing where the tongue slobbers all over the businessperson, but if you also have a thing where both of them ladies, then that's an additional thing and it muddies up the joke. The audience will think, "Why are those characters female? Is that part of the joke?" The underlying assumption there is that the default mode for any character is male, so to make the characters female is an additional detail on top of that. In case I'm not being a hundred percent clear, this thinking is stupid and wrong and self-perpetuating unless you actively work against it, and I'm proud to say I mostly don't think this way anymore. Sometimes I still do, because this kind of stuff is baked into us by years of consuming media, but usually I'm able (with some help) to take a step back and not think this way, and one of the things I love about working with Lisa is she challenges these instincts in me.
I feel like I can confidently say that this isn't just a me problem though— this kind of thing is everywhere. The LEGO Movie was my favorite movie of 2014, but it strikes me that the main character was male, because I feel like in our current culture, he HAD to be. The whole point of Emmett is that he's the most boring average person in the world. It's impossible to imagine a female character playing that role, because according to our pop culture, if she's female she's already SOMEthing, because she's not male. The baseline is male. The average person is male.
You can see this all over but it's weirdly prevalent in children's entertainment. Why are almost all of the muppets dudes, except for Miss Piggy, who's a parody of femininity? Why do all of the Despicable Me minions, genderless blobs, have boy names? I love the story (which I read on Wikipedia) that when the director of The Brave Little Toaster cast a woman to play the toaster, one of the guys on the crew was so mad he stormed out of the room. Because he thought the toaster was a man. A TOASTER. The character is a toaster.
I try to think about that when writing new characters— is there anything inherently gendered about what this character is doing? Or is it a toaster?

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 03-01-2015, 08:52:26
Oh, i ovo, i ovo (http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/comic/book-13/05-the-death-of-snkrs/falseequivalence/)
A pošto se ne sećam jesam li ovo kačio, evo ga:

http://io9.com/10-stupid-arguments-people-use-to-defend-comic-book-sex-1636381824 (http://io9.com/10-stupid-arguments-people-use-to-defend-comic-book-sex-1636381824)

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 04-03-2015, 08:58:01
Kako malo upristojiti često groteskno seksualizovane ženske likove iz borilačkih igara a sačuvati im šarm?
Ovako:
  http://www.svampriket.se/2015/02/makeover-friday/ (http://www.svampriket.se/2015/02/makeover-friday/)

QuoteZašto FSOG treba zabraniti

- Zato što ubeđuje da je bilo šta što radi neko ko ima puno novca romantično... valjda zato što ima
puno novca. Jer se mučenica predomislila u vezi sa bilo čime u čemu je pokazivala malo zdrave
pameti i slobodne volje u trenutku kada je: videla koliko baja ima kola, kad ju je vozio
helikopterom ili joj poklonio kola.
- Zato što ponavlja zabrinjavajuće i civilizacijski pogrešne momente Twilight-a (ali šta se može
očekivati od fanfikšna na istu temu?), da je pratiti nekoga znak naklonosti i pozitivna stvar.
- Da je veoma kul imati Apple-ove uređaje
- Jer je uspeo da napravi gore i neerotičnije scene seksa čak i od Matrix-a.
- Kad smo kod toga, ona žena je stvarno previše mršava
- I onaj lik izgleda kao da mu je jako neprijatno što je tu i da bi što pre pobegao iz kadra (ne može
mu se zameriti, doduše)
- Što se romantike tiče, hodajuće drveće i kreštanje nazgula u LotR-u su bili mnogo ubedljiviji (bar
su najavljivali da će se uskoro pojaviti elf, ili metalac, ovaj vitez, ili makar hobit).
- Jer prosečna epizoda indijske serije ima bolji saundtrek od ovoga
- Zato što je tip sa teškim detinjstvom, pride seksulano zlostavljan maloletnik dosadan kliše, koji
nikad ne radi (ne mogu da se setim odgovarajućeg primera)
- Kontinuum od Sex & City, pa zabetoniran Twilight-om, da se žene umesto aktivnog,
samoodlučujućeg i delatnog lika, takoreći subjekta, vrate u položaj pasivnog, trpećeg, čekajućeg,
očekujućeg, takoreći objekta, s ciljem udomljenja u tuđi novac pod tuđim uslovima.
- Iz psihološko-dramaturške perspektive brka lončiće sa SM stvarima, što kao i svaki promašaj
postaje blamirajuće i dosadno.
- za različitu ciljnu grupu i sa drugom konotacijom, obrnuo temu posle A Scandal in Belgravia, koji
je usput, ma koliko prozaično, na prvu loptu i ,,neupakovano" izbacio ,,brainy is the new sexy" (vs
wealthy is the evergreen sexy).

Quote from: Irena Adler on 10-03-2015, 14:23:25
Btw. jedna od fascinantnijih stvari u vezi sa Sex&City je što sama ta serija kreće od prve premise a završi se u drugoj. :(

Quote from: Irena Adler on 10-03-2015, 16:48:16
Ja se načelno slažem (mada stvarno nisam stručnjak za važeće norme), ali je činjenica da što je duže serija trajala sve je više naginjala tome da ono što (osvešćene, samostalne itd, itd.) seke zapravo žele jeste da se udaju za nekog iz sopstvenog ili višeg društvenog sloja.

Quote from: zosko on 25-03-2015, 00:16:06
genijalno! tocno u centar. abnormalno sta se promovira kao zenski standard ljepote i uspjeha, meni zapravo odbojno.
i to zborim naklonjen bilo kojem zenskom pokretu koji je ritmican.

Quote from: zosko on 25-03-2015, 01:55:00
hocu reci: odredjene forme feminizma dovele su do stanja da preveliki dio vrijednosti koju je stvarao zenski "domaci" rad odlazi u korist tvrtke/institucije/koncerna, t.j. u konacnici neproduktivan je ili cak destruktivan za osobnu zajednicu. ne da su stari modeli bolji u pogledu ravnopravnosti.

Quote from: Mileva on 25-03-2015, 02:12:06
Dobro, ali isto to moze da se odnosi i na muskarca.

Quote from: Mileva on 25-03-2015, 02:14:42
Wow ! Lol

QuoteGde, na kraju krajeva započinju ljudska prava? U malim prostorima, blizu doma - tako blizu, tako malim da se ne mogu videti ni na jednoj mapi sveta. A ipak ona su čitav svet pojedinačne osobe: komšiluk u kome ona živi, škola ili fakultet koji pohađa, fabrika, farma ili kancelarija u kojoj radi. Takva su mesta na kojima svaki muškarac, žena i dete traže jednaku pravdu, jednake šanse, jednako dostojanstvo  bez diskriminacije. Ukoliko ova prava na takvim mestima ništa ne znače, ona imaju vrlo malo značenja bilo gde drugde. Bez zajedničkog napora građana da se ta prava odbrane u okolini naših domova, uzalud ćemo se nadati napretku u velikom svetu.

Quote from: tomat on 26-03-2015, 00:24:38
(https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0S8bbYW.jpg&hash=4f202482b3a8be8f8ae12a89f987af3c92ac5ca9)

neko reče da oko 20% rudara u Kanadi čine žene, tako da to nije skoro 100%, al' Kanađani se ne računaju u normalan svet :)

Quote from: Jevtropijevićka on 26-03-2015, 12:12:28
@Boban: pa, kao neka ravnopravnost je da se dobijaju iste pare za isti posao, recimo. Utoliko je ono kao poželjno da budu identične plate, odnos prema zaposlenima itd. Ostalo ti na čast.

Quote from: Boban on 26-03-2015, 12:39:51

Quote from: Jevtropijevićka on 26-03-2015, 12:12:28
@Boban: pa, kao neka ravnopravnost je da se dobijaju iste pare za isti posao,

Ne mogu da budu iste plate jer nije isti učinak.

Quote from: Джон Рейнольдс on 26-03-2015, 12:43:48


Реално, само квоте воде и у канализацију или на ђубретарске камионе, не само жене, него и не-Роме. Али тим квотама се нико не бави.

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 26-03-2015, 12:53:48

Quote from: Джон Рейнольдс on 26-03-2015, 12:43:48


Реално, само квоте воде и у канализацију или на ђубретарске камионе, не само жене, него и не-Роме. Али тим квотама се нико не бави.

Pa, ne bavi se jer ne postoji socijalna barijera da žena ili ne-romska osoba radi na đubretarskom kamionu (osim potencijalno one koju sam gore pomenuo). Dakle, ako hoće - u teoriji može. Ne postoje kvalifikacije koje mora da ima a koje su zaklonjene iza socijalnih barijera.

Quote from: Linkin Uroborni on 26-03-2015, 13:29:00
Bato, možda jeste istina, ali pazi se ipak da ne prođeš kao Miloš Biković za 8 mart.  8)

Quote from: Джон Рейнольдс on 26-03-2015, 13:36:08
Не постоји баријера ни за руководећа, посланичка и слична места. Нема мушке уроте.

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There is a lack of research and evidence that examines
the linkages between sexual and reproductive health and
rights and women's participation in political and public life.
Some studies have shown a connection between women in
parliament and the prevalence of contraception within the
country. However, the relationship between the two could
range from social factors (more social equality leads to
higher contraceptive use) to direct causation (the presence
of contraception directly increases the number of women
in parliament). To come to a conclusion on the relationship,
further information and research are needed.

Other studies have shown that a woman who can choose
from easily accessible, widely available contraceptive
methods to control if, when and how many children to
have could be more likely to take on roles outside the
domestic sphere. This research shows that access to
contraception may also contribute to the increasing number
of women worldwide who are becoming educated and
joining the labour force or becoming civic and political
leaders. Again, however, there is limited research into
this linkage. The gap in knowledge was the impetus
for the establishment of the Fertility & Empowerment
Network, a group of academic and applied researchers
at the International Center for Research on Women, who
are investigating whether and to what extent declines
in fertility in lower ‑ and middle ‑ income countries have
led to subsequent gains in women's empowerment and
transformations in gender relations.

QuoteInterventions that promote women's political participation
generally focus on getting women into office, mainly
through quota systems and capacity building of individual
women leaders. However, getting more women into office
does not by itself guarantee women's substantive influence
on political decision making or guarantee political decisions
that further women's rights, gender equality or other
gender outcomes. Women are not a homogeneous group
but come from very varied socially structured positions
according to, for example, class, ethnicity and religion.
Increasing women's representation and participation in
governance is not simply about numbers and influence, but
is also about the need for women's strategic interests and
gender equality concerns to be addressed in public policy
decisions and resource allocations so that these better
support women's rights in general.
For example, Kenyan women activists and female members
of parliament hold the view that women make a difference,
not necessarily because of numbers, but despite the
numbers. Despite their marginality in decision making,
Kenyan women have made a significant difference in
shaping and advancing the gender agenda, leading to an
increase in maternity leave to four months, an increased
focus on gender issues and HIV, and gender sensitive
policies including the National Reproductive and Health
Policy and the National Policy for the Abandonment of
Female Genital Mutilation

QuoteUltimately, as suggested by Pathways research, far greater
attention needs to be paid to feminist constituency
building, and to processes to democratize politics itself.
Organizing is needed at the grassroots to build networks
and critical consciousness, and to strengthen women's
individual and collective capacity, rather than just inserting
women into unaccountable political institutions.

Increasing the accountability of political institutions,
tackling deep ‑ rooted beliefs and structural constraints that
perpetuate inequalities, and empowering women through
grassroots organizations are therefore crucial steps towards
challenging inequality, increasing access to sexual and
reproductive health care services and rights, and achieving
a range of other gender outcomes and development goals

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 26-03-2015, 13:51:37
Ma nije uopšte sporno da natalitet pada sa povećanjem obrazovnog nivoa u populaciji  - to je nekako i prirodno, što su ljudi obrazovaniji, svesniji su da ima u životu i drugih stvari pored uzgajanja porodice itd.

Quote from: Boban on 26-03-2015, 12:39:51

Quote from: Jevtropijevićka on 26-03-2015, 12:12:28
@Boban: pa, kao neka ravnopravnost je da se dobijaju iste pare za isti posao, recimo. Utoliko je ono kao poželjno da budu identične plate, odnos prema zaposlenima itd. Ostalo ti na čast.

Ne mogu da budu iste plate jer nije isti učinak. Čak ni u kancelarijskom poslu nije isti učinak. Evo jedan bizaran primer. Meni je istekla kartica tekućeg računa pre dve godine i ja je i dalje koristim za podizanje para u banci, jer na njoj piše broj; ne mogu da je koristim na automatu, ali nema veze. Dakle, podizao sam pare nekih 50 puta, otprilike 45 puta su bile žene i pet puta muškarci. Ono što je interesantno jeste sledeće: SVAKI muškarac mi je odmah rekao da je kartica istekla, a NIJEDNA žena na to nikada nije obratila pažnju.
Šta mislite zašto neke banke preferiraju muškarce na šalterima? Zašto su kelneri u nekim kafanskim lancima uglavnom muškarci (npr. moj omiljeni coffeedream)? Ravnopravnost ne postoji. Znam čoveka koji ima veliki studio za dizajn i pripremu za štampu i zapošljava samo žene. Kaže: "Sporije su, manje inventivne, ali daleko odanije i vrlo retko se odlučuju da napuste posao što muškarci redovno rade." Dakle, čovek svesno bira manje sposobne radnike jer mu je bitna lojalnost... Ovakvih primera ima u beskraj.

Quote from: Dybuk on 26-03-2015, 19:03:44
Hej, @zosko, kako to mislis 'nemuskobanjastoj'? (https://www.znaksagite.com/diskusije/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.desismileys.com%2Fsmileys%2Fdesismileys_6529.gif&hash=e50d25e158cb3aad91772f4aeaa68ffc6bb14557)

Quote from: kimura on 26-03-2015, 19:00:21
Priznaću ti da o šefovima nikada nisam razmišljala kao o ''ženama'', a pogotovo ne kao o ''muškarcima''  xrofl

Inače, najpodmukliji činovnik i prvorazredna opajdara, kreator mnogih urota, Katarina Mediči i Lukrecija Bordžija u jednom, koncentrat takozvane ženske zlobe, najgori od svih koje sam upoznala je rođen kao muško, pa ti vidi...

Quote from: zosko on 26-03-2015, 19:12:40
bas tako dolazi do izrazaja priroda zenskog zakulisanog predatora. kimurine tvrdnje stajale bi jedino u idealnim uvjetima, ne u okruzenju politiziranog izbora koji istice. no isto tako se je vjesto i ogradila kroz "osobno iskustvo koje iznosi", nespremna na ravnopravnu diskusiju, onu musku.

Quote from: zosko on 26-03-2015, 19:40:50
ovo su vec niski udarci na koje se, da bi se razoruzalo zenu, odgovara iskljucivo komplimentima: dybuk, pravo si osvjezenje na ovom isfeminiziranom forumu.

Quote from: Dybuk on 26-03-2015, 19:32:21
Mada, ne volim konflikt i izbegavam ga i na netu i u zivotu...prolly taj estrogen :p

Quote from: Dybuk on 26-03-2015, 19:56:51Hvala! Super je ovde xcheers

Quote from: Irena Adler on 26-03-2015, 20:00:49

Quote from: Dybuk on 26-03-2015, 19:32:21
Mada, ne volim konflikt i izbegavam ga i na netu i u zivotu...prolly taj estrogen :p

Ali bar je podjednako verovatno da to što žene izbegavaju konflikte (ili se već nekako ponašaju drugačije od muškaraca) ima veze sa različitim modelima socijalizacije, a ne sa estrogenom.

Quote from: Irena Adler on 26-03-2015, 20:00:49

Quote from: Dybuk on 26-03-2015, 19:32:21
Mada, ne volim konflikt i izbegavam ga i na netu i u zivotu...prolly taj estrogen :p

Ali bar je podjednako verovatno da to što žene izbegavaju konflikte (ili se već nekako ponašaju drugačije od muškaraca) ima veze sa različitim modelima socijalizacije, a ne sa estrogenom.

Quote from: zosko on 26-03-2015, 20:13:42
ti bi sad, irena, bila meho umjesto mehe.

Quote from: Dybuk on 26-03-2015, 20:41:36
Razlicito se ponasaju devojcice i decaci ali im homoni odredjuju obrazac ponasanja. Kasnije se to naravno nivelise, te se i vise razmislja i promislja svaki postupak.

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 26-03-2015, 19:28:40

Quote from: kimura on 26-03-2015, 19:00:21
Priznaću ti da o šefovima nikada nisam razmišljala kao o ''ženama'', a pogotovo ne kao o ''muškarcima''  xrofl

Inače, najpodmukliji činovnik i prvorazredna opajdara, kreator mnogih urota, Katarina Mediči i Lukrecija Bordžija u jednom, koncentrat takozvane ženske zlobe, najgori od svih koje sam upoznala je rođen kao muško, pa ti vidi...

al' on nije šef! 8-)

Quote from: Irena Adler on 26-03-2015, 20:45:59
Ako bi razlike u ponašanju i dalje postojale i u uslovima potpuno identične socijalizacije, onda su verovatno biološkog porekla. Ali mi to trenutno ne znamo, jer se devojčice uče da budu devojčice a dečaci se uče da budu dečaci.

Quote from: kimura on 26-03-2015, 18:37:30
Ovo je moje, samo moje iskustvo: za veštinu upravljanja pol nije od značaja, sve drugo je važnjie.

Quote from: Irena Adler on 26-03-2015, 21:20:15
@ scallop
Ali ja pričam samo o obrascima ponašanja, ni o čemu drugom. Tj. ne ulazim u razloge zašto se neko npr. oseća kao žena, nego me zanima zašto to "kao žena" podrazumeva sklonost ka suknjicama, ili pečenju kolača, ili manje konfliktnom ponašanju.

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 26-03-2015, 23:40:10

@Irena, pa da, ali ženska mikromoć je opasnija od konflikata! U tome je problem! Jest da su muškarci bučniji, ali žene rasturaju govoreći tiho! 8)
Tako da ta tzv. ''ne-konfliktna priroda'' kod žena uopšte ne postoji, ona samo nije eksplicitna.

Nisam ja govorio o hormonima i prirodnosti polova, naprotiv, žene sasvim svjesno proizvode antiprirodne situacije u kojima ne moraju da se fizički ili psihički, agresivno obračunavaju sa protivnicima, jer upravo na takvom neprirodnom terenu lako trijumfuju! 8)

Quote from: zoskoostaje pitanje gdje je zenama nuznan testosteronski stimulans

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 26-03-2015, 23:40:10
jedva izvukoh iz kimure tvrdnju da su muškarci gori šefovi 8)

Quote from: mac on 27-03-2015, 00:45:00
Ali, recimo da jednom saznamo uzrok. Šta ćemo imati od toga?

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 27-03-2015, 01:12:25
mikromoć, eo npr sjedne čovjek za sto da ruča, sav je naoštren i naoružan kašikom, viljuškom itd, kad ga opominje umilni glas ''ne srči!''. I ovaj jadnik više ne može da uživa u supi

ili npr kad se muškarac oženi, a žena mu pije slatku kafu, a on u momaštvu gorču, velika je vjerovatnoća da je posljednju gorču posrkao prije sudbonosnog da, i sad uvjerava staro društvo da pije slatku otkad zna za sebe

itd, itd, ovakvih mikromoći bez očiglednih konflikata imaš kol'ko oćeš 8)

tipično, netipično, hormonsko, ma to je sasvim druga priča

realno, muškarac nikad ne bi propisivao kako će neko da jede, ili kakvu će kafu da pije, sem ako je neki kimurin šef, al to su izuzeci koji potvrđuju pravilo! 8)

tako, mikromoć po mikromoć, kako je jednom rekao američki komičar, muškarci bi bez žena živjeli u kartonskoj kutiji 8)

i poslije kao neravnopravnost ovo ono, prave muškarčine su prisiljene od strane žena da žive po kojekakvim kućama i stanovima, i da spavaju u krevetima!

Papuče da ne spominjemo!

Quote from: Irena Adler on 27-03-2015, 00:37:10
Ono što ja, očigledno nedovoljno jasno, pokušavam da kažem je sledeće: ako pretpostavimo da postoje neka tipično ženska i neka tipično muška ponašanja (pri čemu ne tvrdim da zaista postoje), dok god se dečaci i devojčice socijalizuju na različite načine, ne možemo znati da li su te tipičnosti urođene i stečene.

Quote from: scallop on 26-03-2015, 21:13:10

Quote from: Irena Adler on 26-03-2015, 20:45:59
Ako bi razlike u ponašanju i dalje postojale i u uslovima potpuno identične socijalizacije, onda su verovatno biološkog porekla. Ali mi to trenutno ne znamo, jer se devojčice uče da budu devojčice a dečaci se uče da budu dečaci.

Ovo je veoma zanimljiva teza, ali je jako klimava ako se posmatra upravo LGBT populacija. Uticaj "naopake" socijalizacije je gotovo nikakav.

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 27-03-2015, 13:24:29


samo naizgled to nema veze sa ravnopravnošću, ali ''Ne podriguj'' u stvari jeste jasno formulisano naređenje! Meho izvršava komande, bespogovorno!

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Pravo na porodičnu penziju imaju članovi porodice posle smrti korisnika starosne ili invalidske penzije, odnosno umrlog osiguranika koji je navršio najmanje pet godina staža osiguranja ili je ispunio uslove za invalidsku penziju. Ukoliko je uzrok smrti povreda na radu ili profesionalno oboljenje, članovi porodice stiču pravo na penziju bez obzira na dužinu penzijskog staža tog lica.
Bračni drug ima pravo na porodičnu penziju u 2015:
Supruga :

   
• sa navršene 52 godine, pod uslovom da je u momentu smrti supružnika imala najmanje 45 godina života

Suprug :

   
• ako je u momentu smrti supruge imao najmanje 57 godinai života

Prema izmenama Zakona o penzijskom i invalidskom osiguranju od 1. 1. 2011. godine, predviđeno je da se granica za ostvarivanje prava na porodičnu penziju za udove/udovce svake godine podiže za šest meseci, sve do 2017. godine.

USLOVI ZA PORODIČNU PENZIJU (2011-2017)  (http://pio.rs/images/dokumenta/Penzije/uslovi%20za%20porodicnu%20penziju.pdf)

Bračni drug može da koristi porodičnu penziju uz dete, koje je korisnik porodične penzije, ako obavlja roditeljske dužnosti prema njemu. Takođe, ako u roku od godinu dana posle smrti supružnika postane potpuno nesposoban/a za rad. Razvedeni bračni drug ima pravo na porodičnu penziju ako mu je sudskom presudom dodeljeno izdržavanje, za onoliko vremena koliko je u presudi naznačeno.
Ako je umrli osiguranik ili umrli korisnik starosne ili invalidske penzije u trenutku zaključenja braka navršio 65 godina života (muškarac), odnosno 60 (žena), bračni drug može steći pravo na porodičnu penziju pod uslovom da imaju zajedničko dete ili da je brak trajao najmanje dve godine.

Quotenije se bez razloga razvila asocijacija na zensko kao podmuklo, zakulisano, pokvareno, lazljivo i manipulativno, a na musko kao plemenito, velikodusno i turnirski borbeno.

Quote from: Dybuk on 27-03-2015, 17:39:05
u slucaju lova na vestice, tipicno za crkvu i njene predstavnike, mrznja prema zeni je rezultat inhibicija, nerazumevanja zenske prirode, neostvarene seksualnosti, i slicnih patologija.

Quote from: Dybuk on 27-03-2015, 18:01:56
@zosko, moze biti, mene folklor i mitologija zapravo interesuje i fascinira.
Ne guram neku feministicku agendu, ali sam prilicno sigurna da su vecinu tog stiva pisali muskarci.
Cini mi se da ima tu puno psihologije i straha.
Koji opet potice od nerazumevanja.

E sad, ne znam kako je zena to sama odredila percepciju, ok, imamo Vlasku magiju i to, ali da li je moguce da, pored interesovanja za okultno - sto nije samo svojstveno zenama - ove zene tradicionalno igraju uloge koje im je drustvo i sredina ranije namenila? To donosi moc (kad vec nisu imale politicku) pa bogami, i finansijsku dobit. No, to je i dalje u domenu primitivnog, 'outdated' po mom misljenju.

Quote from: zosko on 27-03-2015, 17:21:54
uporno razmatrate stvari koje su odavno rasvijetljene. iako imamo oba genusa u sljedece navedenom, rabimo specificni:
femininum: vjestica, baba roga, zmija, macka...
maskulinum: orao, jastreb...

nije se bez razloga razvila asocijacija na zensko kao podmuklo, zakulisano, pokvareno, lazljivo i manipulativno, a na musko kao plemenito, velikodusno i turnirski borbeno.

Quote from: Irena Adler on 27-03-2015, 10:13:03
Ja lično sam samo radoznala (da saznam do koje tačno mere hormoni određuju moje ponašanje). Ali možda bismo imali i to da se prestane sa neutemeljenim generalizacijama. O oba pola.

Quote from: zoskopas (odanost, vjernost, prijateljstvo)
kuja (?)

Quote from: zosko on 27-03-2015, 23:20:42
ne pisem o svadjanju. pitam se je li zena sposobna bez bilo kojeg oblika poziva na zenstveno, znaci vanspolno, uvjerljivo argumentirati, oponirati i upravljati.
na forumu biramo sugovornike, u vodecoj funkciji ne. susrecemo se s predrasudama, moramo objektivno i kritizirati, izlaziti na kraj sa najrazlicitijim oblicima kulture dijaloga... je li zena sposobna za to pod istim uvjetima kao muskarac: izlozeno, bez infrastrukture podrske i bez trep-trep.
moje je uvjerenje da nije, potegao sam hormone i evolutivne tekovine kao argumente.

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 26-03-2015, 14:15:04
Dakle, postoje sistemske barijere i one se rešavaju na najnižim mogućim nivoima. Dakle, ne prostim kvotiranjem.

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 29-03-2015, 17:34:44
Helena Jamieson, 33, a consultant who studied English literature at Cambridge.

On her marriage to stay-at home father Luke, 37, she said: "We have done the role reversal. I'm definitely the more intellectual person in the relationship and I'm at work full time while he is raising our daughter.

"I think women probably always knew deep down that they were the more intelligent ones – but as the gentler sex we were quiet about it and let men continue to believe they ruled the world."

raskrinkala sve kimure i irene ovog svijeta 8-)

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 29-03-2015, 17:34:44


raskrinkala sve kimure i irene ovog svijeta 8-)

Quote from: kimura on 29-03-2015, 18:18:27
Eto, uhvati me na delu!
Stidim se i patim zbog svih podjarmljenih muškaraca, koji bi se davno odali divljaštvu esencijalnim pitanjima da im ne stojim na putu.

Quote from: zosko on 29-03-2015, 19:41:04

Quote from: kimura on 29-03-2015, 18:18:27
Eto, uhvati me na delu!
Stidim se i patim zbog svih podjarmljenih muškaraca, koji bi se davno odali divljaštvu esencijalnim pitanjima da im ne stojim na putu.

ispravljeno!

Quote from: mac on 29-03-2015, 18:47:58
Šta, spustila mu je tako što je rekla da je ona intelektualac u njihovoj vezi? Da li je to spuštanje ako je istina?

Quote from: kimura on 29-03-2015, 19:53:23
Misliš esencijalnom divljaštvu?
Ne kvari sad, čoveče,  Meho se taman odvažio da podrigne za stolom.
I da pokaže kako iza vegetarijanca ipak stoji muškarac...

Quote from: scallop on 29-03-2015, 19:49:20
Celibat je dokaz. xukliam

Quote from: Dybuk on 29-03-2015, 23:38:04
not sure if serious or...

Quote from: scallop on 29-03-2015, 23:38:53
Siromašna ti paralela. Ajmo o termitima ili pčelama. Ili, medvedicama.

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 29-03-2015, 23:44:06

Quote from: Dybuk on 29-03-2015, 23:38:04
not sure if serious or...

Disklejmer za nove članove: Zosko je poznat po svom provokativnom izražavanju na mnoge teme, koje ne treba shvatati posve ozbiljno. Ovo je, moguće, jedna od njih.

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THE figures are well known: At Apple 20 percent of tech jobs are held by women and at Google, only 17 percent. A report by the Congressional Joint Economic Committee estimates that nationwide about 14 percent of engineers in the work force are women.
As a woman with a Ph.D. in biomedical engineering, I look at those numbers with despair.
Why are there so few female engineers? Many reasons have been offered: workplace sexism, a lack of female role models, stereotypes regarding women's innate technical incompetency, the difficulties of combining tech careers with motherhood. Proposed fixes include mentor programs, student support groups and targeted recruitment efforts. Initiatives have begun at universities and corporations, including Intel's recent $300 million diversity commitment.
But maybe one solution is much simpler, and already obvious. An experience here at the University of California, Berkeley, where I teach, suggests that if the content of the work itself is made more societally meaningful, women will enroll in droves. That applies not only to computer engineering but also to more traditional, equally male-dominated fields like mechanical and chemical engineering.
I work at the Blum Center for Developing Economies, which recently began a new program that, without any targeted outreach, achieved 50 percent female enrollment in just one academic year. In the fall of 2014, U.C. Berkeley began offering a new Ph.D. minor in development engineering for students doing thesis work on solutions for low-income communities. Half of the students enrolled in the inaugural class are women. They are designing affordable solutions for clean drinking water, inventing medical diagnostic equipment for neglected tropical diseases and enabling local manufacturing in poor and remote regions.
Women seem to be drawn to engineering projects that attempt to achieve societal good. Curious to learn whether that was true at other universities, my colleagues and I contacted the dozens of universities that have programs aimed at reducing global poverty and inequality. What we found was consistent and remarkable.
The undergraduate-level international minor for engineers at the University of Michigan reports that 51 percent of its students are women. Those women are predominantly majoring in some of the oldest and most traditional engineering fields — industrial operations and mechanical and chemical engineering — where, arguably, gender stereotypes are most entrenched.
At the interdisciplinary D-Lab at M.I.T., which focuses on developing "technologies that improve the lives of people living in poverty," 74 percent of over 230 enrolled students this past year were women. This makes the D-Lab one of the few engineering initiatives in the country that has a severalfold higher enrollment of women than men.


Arizona State University said that its humanitarian engineering courses and study options have twice as many women as its traditional engineering classes. Comparable programs at the University of Minnesota, Pennsylvania State University and Santa Clara University also report significant increases in the numbers of women participating.Continue reading the main story (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/27/opinion/how-to-attract-female-engineers.html?_r=0#story-continues-5) Continue reading the main story (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/27/opinion/how-to-attract-female-engineers.html?_r=0#story-continues-5)  Continue reading the main story (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/27/opinion/how-to-attract-female-engineers.html?_r=0#story-continues-5) The trend is also true for stand-alone classes. Susan Amrose, who teaches a U.C. Berkeley civil and environmental engineering course on design for sustainable communities, counted 128 female and 103 male students since the class began in 2006. "Last fall, we had 70 percent women," Dr. Amrose noted. "Many of them tell me they are seeking out opportunities to work on technical projects with a strong purpose, such as improving fuel-efficient cookstoves."
Student-driven clubs and programs see the same patterns. At Princeton, the student chapter of Engineers Without Borders has an executive board that is nearly 70 percent female, reflecting the overall club composition. Seventy percent of the university's student-run Sustainable Engineering and Development Scholars program is also female.
None of the programs, clubs and classes were designed with the main goal of appealing to female engineers, and perhaps this is exactly why they are drawing us in. At the core of each of the programs is a focus on engineering that is cutting edge, with an explicit social context and mission.
What does all this show? It shows that the key to increasing the number of female engineers may not just be mentorship programs or child care centers, although those are important. It may be about reframing the goals of engineering research and curriculums to be more relevant to societal needs. It is not just about gender equity — it is about doing better engineering for us all.

QuotePassauer Sportstudenten wollten in einem Spaß-Wettbewerb Männer in Lederhosen eine Leiter zu ihren Herzdamen hochklettern lassen. Die Gleichstellungsbeauftragte der Universität fand das ,,Fensterln" aber sexistisch. Nun mischt sich sogar Bayerns Ministerpräsident ein.
...

Quotehttp://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/10-words-every-girl-should-learn/#.VWSfpJ6KUgA.facebook

Quotešto na kraju dana zaista stavlja čoveka u situacju da razmisli je li katastrofalna šteta koju ljuckom mišljenju nanose rijeliti šouovi poput Kiping ap vid d Kardašijanz i njihovih metastaza u socijalnim medijima i tabloidima, je li ta šteta manja od koristi koju će doneti korišćenje ove potentne metamedijske meta(muta)forme da se široka javnost senzitizuje na postojanje i zbiljnost jedne populacije koja je u tolikoj manjini da su njene opcije za javno zagovaranje miniskulne.

Quote from: Dybuk on 07-06-2015, 00:25:16
Mozda sam ja Marko  :idea:

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 29-03-2015, 15:41:29
šta ovaj Telegrafov tekst pokazuje nego ono što sam reko: da žene vladaju svijetom, i još to tako dobro kriju

Quotemada mu je već pala posljednja hipoteza da plaču kad ih kritikuju, jer njega su dobro izujedale 8-)

Quote from: mac on 10-06-2015, 17:53:34
Ženama su potrebni odvojeni toaleti.

Quote from: mac on 10-06-2015, 17:53:34
Nekim muškarcima, koji ne mogu da rade sa 100% učinka u ženskom okruženju, potrebno je odvojeno radno okruženje.

Quote from: mac on 10-06-2015, 17:53:34razni ljudi imaju različite potrebe. Treba svima izaći u susret, koliko je to moguće..

Quote from: mac on 10-06-2015, 19:03:58
Jeste, ismevaj njihov disabilitet. To je kao da si saplela čoveka na štakama... Dok pokušava da se ukrca u autobus... Koji nema pokretnu rampu...

A kad izmisle izvor neograničene i ekološki bezopasne energije, onda su nam dobri...

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The Nobel laureate Tim Hunt has apologised for comments he made about female scientists.

Hunt had told a conference he had a reputation for being a chauvinist, before saying: "Let me tell you about my trouble with girls. Three things happen when they are in the lab. You fall in love with them, they fall in love with you and when you criticise them, they cry."


The 72-year-old, who was awarded the Nobel prize in physiology or medicine in 2001 (http://www.theguardian.com/education/2001/oct/08/research.highereducation1), also said he was in favour of single-sex labs, while adding that he did not want to "stand in the way of women".
Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Wednesday, Hunt apologised for any offence, saying he meant the remarks to be humorous – but added he "did mean the part about having trouble with girls".
He said: "It is true ... I have fallen in love with people in the lab and people in the lab have fallen in love with me and it's very disruptive to the science because it's terribly important that in a lab people are on a level playing field.
"I found that these emotional entanglements made life very difficult. I'm really, really sorry I caused any offence, that's awful. I certainly didn't mean that. I just meant to be honest, actually."
In a statement, Hunt said: "I'm very sorry that what I thought were light hearted ironic remarks were taken so seriously, and I'm very sorry if people took offence. I certainly did not mean to demean women, but rather be honest about my own shortcomings."
Hunt made the remarks when addressing a convention of senior female scientists and science journalists at a conference in South Korea.
Hunt became a fellow of the Royal Society (http://www.theguardian.com/science/royal-society) in 1991 and 10 years later he was awarded the Nobel prize alongside Lee Hartwell and Paul Nurse for their discoveries of "key regulators of the cell cycle".
His comments were tweeted by Connie St Louis (https://twitter.com/connie_stlouis/status/607813783075954688), who directs the science journalism programme at City University London and was attending the conference. She commented: "Really, does this Nobel laureate think we are still in Victorian times?"

The Royal Society distanced itself from Hunt's comments. It said: "The Royal Society believes that in order to achieve everything that it can, science needs to make the best use of the research capabilities of the entire population.
"Too many talented individuals do not fulfil their scientific potential because of issues such as gender and the society is committed to helping to put this right. Sir Tim Hunt was speaking as an individual and his reported comments in no way reflect the views of the Royal Society."
David Colquhoun, emeritus professor of pharmacology at University College London, said Hunt's remarks were a "disaster for the advancement of women".
The comments have also been roundly criticised by female scientists on Twitter. One woman, a postdoctoral researcher, tweeted: "For every Tim Hunt remark, there's an extra woman in science that takes an interest in feminism. Ever wonder why there are so many of us?"

Quote from: scallopNe znam šta je "nidžrk" reakcija

Quoteknee-jerk
adjective
adjective: kneejerk
1.
(of a response) automatic and unthinking.
"a knee-jerk reaction"

Quote from: Karl Rosman on 12-06-2015, 13:21:37
Sve je to odavno objasnio jedan Ceh. Veterinar.


! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avTBkXn5RFQ#)

Quote from: lilit on 12-06-2015, 14:25:49
od adema, pa usput i sve do tima hanta - no major changes

Quote from: Karl Rosman on 12-06-2015, 14:47:18

Dobra je nasa Lilit. Samo sto je zensko...

Quote from: angel011 on 12-06-2015, 12:41:45
Kakav bi trebalo da bude sastav laboratorija u kojima bi radio gej, ili radila lezbejka, pa da se izbegnu seksualne tenzije?

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-06-2015, 15:49:16
Lako je tebi da pričaš a ne kažeš nam koliko si muškaraca navela da se zaljube u tebe dok ste po rukama premetali male, bele, laboratorijske miševe. I kako je to uticalo na performanse laboratorije!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-06-2015, 16:02:49
Za to im je dovoljna i kuhinja, ne moraju da idu na fakultet.

Quote from: lilit on 12-06-2015, 16:09:04

life is tough. samo su ideje bitne.

Quote from: lilit on 12-06-2015, 16:09:04
hence, zaljubljivanje je za neradnike,

Quote from: lilit on 12-06-2015, 16:09:04
a muškarci ionako na kraju završe ovde:

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-06-2015, 16:18:59
Eh, divne. Znam gomilu lezbijki i distribucija divote među njima je ista kao i među heteroseksualnim ženama & muškarcima. Malo ih vi, kolega, preromantično doživljavate.

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 12-06-2015, 16:32:25
Dobro je da ne idem po tim laboratorijama...

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Female scientists have been sharing "distractingly sexy" photos of themselves after a feminist website encouraged them to respond to comments by a Nobel laureate.
Nobel Prize winner Tim Hunt was roundly criticised when he detailed his thoughts about the "trouble with girls" at a conference of science journalists. "Three things happen when they are in the lab," he said, "you fall in love with them, they fall in love with you, and when you criticise them they cry."
He said his comments were meant to be "light-hearted, ironic comment", but whatever the intention, it went over like a heavy metallic dirigible in a field with some widely acknowledged gender issues (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/magazine/why-are-there-still-so-few-women-in-science.html). Hunt has now resigned from his position at University College London (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33090022).
On Thursday the hashtag #DistractinglySexy (https://twitter.com/hashtag/distractinglysexy?src=rela) began taking off, with more than 10,000 tweets in a matter of hours. The trend was prompted by a shout-out by the feminist online magazine Vagenda (https://twitter.com/VagendaMagazine/status/608584030032945152) which urged female scientists to share pictures of themselves at work. WARNING: the photos below are not graphic in the slightest.

QuoteSee, in my world, the fear of offending someone is reason enough to forget about academic freedom.

QuoteYou know what? It's easy to want to protect the people you agree with.

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On Monday, June 8, a British academic called Connie St Louis uploaded a sensational document to her Twitter feed. Beginning with the question 'Why are the British so embarrassing abroad?', it offered an account of bizarre remarks that a Nobel Prize-winning biologist by the name of Sir Tim Hunt had made earlier that day at a conference in Seoul, the capital of South Korea.
His audience was comprised of roughly 100 science journalists, most of them female, who were being treated to a free lunch by a local trade body representing Women's Science & Technology Associations.
According to St Louis, who was in the crowd, their meal was 'utterly ruined' by the 'sexist speaker'. She claimed that Sir Tim, having been asked to deliver a toast, embarked on a surreal rant in which he boasted of being a 'male chauvinist'.
'Let me tell you about my trouble with girls,' it purportedly went. 'Three things happen when they are in the lab. You fall in love with them, they fall in love with you, and when you criticise them, they cry.'
According to St Louis, Sir Tim then took the odd step of claiming that 'single-sex' science laboratories were preferable to ones in which men and women work together.
'Really, does this Nobel laureate think we are still in Victorian times?' she asked.
So began an extraordinary course of events that saw her tweet shared more than 600 times, kick-starting a viral scandal which resulted in the 72-year-old academic, famed for his pioneering work on cell division, being vilified across social media.
Sir Tim, screamed critics, was the epitome of an unreconstructed misogynist; an 'out-of-touch a***hole' to quote one of many hostile tweets, who should have no place in modern academia and whose comments laid bare the institutional sexism that allegedly pervades the world of science.
Within hours, Sir Tim was being hauled across the coals in newspapers and TV bulletins across the world. Unable to defend himself, since he was travelling back to the UK, the bespectacled professor's only response was delivered via a voicemail message to Radio 4's Today programme recorded in haste via mobile telephone in Seoul airport.

n it, he admitted making the fateful remark attributed to him by St Louis, and issued a forthright apologies for the 'very stupid' comment, saying he was 'really, really sorry' to have 'caused offence'.That wasn't enough to stem the criticism, however. Instead, by the time he touched down at Heathrow, his career and reputation, built up over 50 years, lay in tatters.
The days that followed saw him unceremoniously hounded out of honorary positions at University College London (UCL), the Royal Society and the European Research Council (ERC).
Under siege at his Hertfordshire home, he sank into despair.
'Tim sat on the sofa and started crying. Then I started crying,' his wife, Professor Mary Collins (herself a prominent scientist) later recalled. 'We just held on to each other.'
It was, in the eyes of many observers, a classic modern scandal: short, hysterical and fuelled by unswerving political correctness.
Yet, within days, a vigorous backlash had begun.Troubled by Sir Tim's fate, a collection of eminent scientists, including eight other Nobel Prize winners (and several senior female academics) chose to speak out publicly in support of him.
Many professed outrage that, in the echo-chamber of social media, a single careless remark, just 37 words long, could apparently derail the career of a pioneering scientist. Several added that they believed his fateful toast had been delivered off-the-cuff and taken out of context. Though the comments about women scientists were certainly misjudged, Sir Tim's supporters claimed they were intended as an ironic joke (albeit one which misfired). He'd intended to satirise, rather than endorse, sexism, they argued.
Among the most vociferous was Sir Andre Geim, the University of Manchester professor who developed graphene (the world's thinnest material, said to be able to revolutionise almost every part of everyday life).
He claimed that Sir Tim was being 'crucified' by ideological fanatics.
Professor Dame Valerie Beral, director of Oxford University's Cancer Epidemiology Unit, described him as a 'very kind and very eccentric unworldly sort of man' whose words had been misinterpreted.
'I just think those comments were self-deprecatory. He will have said it as a complete joke,' she said.
All of them called for UCL, the Royal Society and the ERC to re‑instate him. The institutions, however, refused to play ball.
Then, early this week, the simmering dispute took a further, seismic twist.
It came courtesy of The Times newspaper, which revealed the contents of a leaked report into Sir Tim's fall from grace compiled by an EU official who had accompanied him to the Seoul conference.
This individual, who has not been named, sat with him at the lunch and provided a transcript of what Sir Tim 'really said'.
Crucially, it presented a very different take to the one which had been so energetically circulated by Connie St Louis.
The report began by confirming that Sir Tim had joked about falling in love with women in laboratories and 'making them cry'.
However, it said he'd prefaced those comments with an ironic introduction, joking that they would illustrate what a 'chauvinist monster' he was.
The report then revealed the existence of an entire second half of the controversial toast.
In it, Sir Tim was said to have told his audience that his remark about 'making them cry' was, indeed, an ironic joke.
He purportedly said, 'now seriously . . .' before going on to speak enthusiastically about the 'important role' women scientists play. He ended by joking that his largely female audience should pursue their trade, 'despite monsters like me'.
The report's author added: 'I didn't notice any uncomfortable silence or any awkwardness in the room as reported on social and then mainstream media,' going on to describe the speech as 'warm and funny'.
All of which, for quite understandable reasons, sparked further angry debate. Supporters of Sir Tim felt he had been vindicated. Among them was Professor Richard Dawkins, the evolutionary biologist, who said the leaked memo's contents showed Sir Tim to be 'the reverse of a chauvinist monster'.
He added that the 'lynch mob' who had contributed to Sir Tim's downfall should consider their own positions and that his colleague 'should be swiftly restored to the honoured place he deserves'.
However, Sir Tim's critics remained unmoved and disputed the EU report's contents. Importantly, given how the scandal had originally emerged, they were led by Connie St Louis.
She stood by her remarks and told the Mail that she explicitly denied that the scientist's toast ever contained the words 'now seriously'.
As a result, this explosive controversy now rests on a single, straightforward question: which of these two, first-hand versions of events is true? Either the anonymous EU official is telling the truth, in which case Sir Tim is a hapless victim, guilty of nothing more than telling a misjudged joke. Or Connie St Louis, the architect of the witch-hunt against him, is in the right. In that case, many will continue to argue that he got what he deserved.
So, who are we to believe?
The EU report appears to dovetail with Sir Tim's own version of events. Meanwhile, Connie St Louis's account is shared by two fellow witnesses: Deborah Blum, an academic from Wisconsin, and Ivan Oransky, co-founder of a science website called Retraction Watch. Although, following the leaked report, Blum and Oransky told The Times that they could not recall enough to confirm or deny the additional quotes from Sir Tim.

Strangely, given that there were more than 90 other journalists present at the fateful lunch in Seoul, no other detailed accounts of the toast have emerged.
St Louis did not make a shorthand transcript of it. And, again very strangely, no tape-recording appears to exist.
Perhaps, therefore, we should ask two other related questions: who exactly is Connie St Louis? And why, exactly, should we trust her word over that of a Nobel laureate?
A good place to start is the website of London's City University, where St Louis has, for more than a decade, been employed to run a postgraduate course in science journalism.
Here, on a page outlining her CV, she is described as follows:
'Connie St Louis . . . is an award-winning freelance broadcaster, journalist, writer and scientist.
'She presents and produces a range of programmes for BBC Radio 4 and BBC World Service . . . She writes for numerous outlets, including The Independent, Daily Mail, The Guardian, The Sunday Times, BBC On Air magazine and BBC Online.'
All very prestigious. Comforting, no doubt, for potential students considering whether to devote a year of their lives (and money) to completing an MA course under her stewardship. Except, that is for one small detail: almost all of these supposed 'facts' appear to be untrue.
For one thing, Connie St Louis does not 'present and produce' a range of programmes for Radio 4.
Her most recent work for the station, a documentary about pharmaceuticals called The Magic Bullet, was broadcast in October 2007.
For another, it's demonstrably false to say she 'writes' for The Independent, Daily Mail and The Sunday Times.
Digital archives for all three newspapers, which stretch back at least 20 years, contain no by-lined articles that she has written for any of these titles, either in their print or online editions. The Mail's accounts department has no record of ever paying her for a contribution.

Her work for The Guardian appears to consist of two online articles: one published in 2013; the other, about the Sir Tim Hunt affair, went live (online) this week.
Curiously, that 1,000-word piece, in which St Louis recalled the scandal, was heavily edited after publication. Around 30 changes, some of them significant, were made to it. In an apparent contradiction of usual Guardian policy, the version now running online contains no disclaimer detailing this fact.
Elsewhere on the City University web page, readers are led to believe that St Louis has either become, or is soon to become, a published author.
'She is a recipient of the prestigious Joseph Rowntree Journalist Fellowship to write a book based on her acclaimed two-part Radio 4 documentary series, Raising Ham,' it reads.
But that is not the full story. In 2005, St Louis did, indeed, receive the liberal organisation's 'fellowship'. She was given £50,000, which was supposed to support her while she wrote the book in question.
However, no book was ever published. Or, indeed, written. An entire decade later, the project remains a work in progress.
Asked to explain these discrepancies — although details of the claims are carried, remember, on the internet page where she is supposed to present her credentials to students and fellow academics — St Louis said she had done interviews for the Daily Mail but conceded it was 'possible' that she had never written for the paper.
She said her by-lined articles in the Independent and Sunday Times may have been published more than two decades ago. Asked how she could, therefore, justify the claim on her CV that she 'writes' for the titles, she hung up.
In a subsequent email, St Louis appeared to backtrack and insist that she has written for all the newspapers cited on her CV, but said: 'I don't have time . . . to find all the articles on different old computers.'
She did not respond to a question asking what awards she had ever won for journalism, science, broadcasting or writing.
With regard to the £50,000 fellowship, she added: 'I didn't finish the Rowntree book I was writing because I had breast cancer and was extremely ill for a year.
'Then, after that, I had to work to look after my family. It doesn [sic] take away the fact that I won it [the £50,000] and still hope to finish the book does it?'
Readers can, of course, draw their own conclusions.
In common with most academics, St Louis also uses her online CV to cite articles she has previously published in prestigious academic journals. It claims that she has published three. However, even this is misleading. Two of the three cited journal articles are the same: a piece for the British Medical Journal entitled: 'Can Twitter predict disease outbreaks?'
Are such errors merely sloppy? Or were they designed to mislead? And what do they tell us about the attention to detail of a woman whose purported recollection of a short lunchtime toast has effectively ruined a Nobel laureate's career?
Again, readers must draw their own conclusions.
In an email, one of the prominent scientists who have publicly supported Sir Tim Hunt tells me: 'What you have discovered is very alarming. False claims about publications are taken very seriously by universities. Perhaps even more seriously than reports of dodgy, sexist speeches!'
Another, Dame Valerie Beral, who has worked with Sir Tim, added that if St Louis had made false claims on her CV, then her evidence about his speech ought to be discounted.
'I think the institutions who have forced Tim to resign now need to look at the claims that this person has made in the past, and work out whether they can trust what she says regarding this incident.
'If her previous claims turn out to be false, then I believe that Tim must be re-instated.'
City University, meanwhile, says it's investigating the web page in question.
This is not, however, the only medium in which St Louis appears to make false, or at least misleading, statements.
Earlier this year, she stood, successfully, in an election to become a board member of the World Federation of Science Journalists (WFSJ). As part of the election process, St Louis was required to present a detailed CV to voters.
This document, which stretches to six pages, is still on the WFSJ's website. It contains several deeply questionable statements.
In an early passage, she for example writes: 'I am a regular contributor to ABC News Worldview TV programme.' Yet ABC News Worldview has not aired for roughly five years. Factiva, an online search engine which carried transcripts of it, suggests that the last recorded contribution by Connie St Louis to the show was on May 31, 2006.
In another early passage, St Louis writes that she has a second career working for quangos.
'In November 2002, I was invited and subsequently appointed by the Minister responsible for media, sport and culture to be a board member of UK Sport (the former UK Sports Council) . . . My term of office ended last year but I continue to serve on the audit committee as an external member.'
UK Sport describes things differently. A spokesman says St Louis was appointed to the board in November 2002 but she left in 2005.
St Louis did not respond when asked by the Mail how she can, therefore, claim, in a CV published in 2015, to have been a board member of UK Sport until 'last year'.
Elsewhere in the six-page CV is a section devoted to 'Qualification and Training'. In it, St Louis trumpets the fact that she is 'a member of the Royal Institution'.
Again, very prestigious. Or so it seems, until a spokesman for the Royal Institution told me: 'Anyone can be a member. It's simply a service you pay for which entitles you to free tickets to visit us and gives you a discount in our cafe.
'It's like having membership of your local cinema or gym.'
Why would someone include such a thing on their CV?
'Actually, that's a bit of a problem,' the spokesman added. 'We have heard of a few people using membership on their CV to imply that they have some sort of professional recognition or qualification. But it means nothing of the sort. It's very, very odd to see this on a CV.'
St Louis did not respond when the Mail asked why she cited this membership as a 'qualification'.
Neither, as it happens, did she reply to a request to explain what academic qualifications she actually has.
The CV again is unclear. In a section outlining her education, she states: 'BSc (Hons) Upper Second Class degree in Applied Biology.' But it does not state where she gained it from, making it impossible to fact-check.
Doubtless, more facts will eventually emerge, perhaps once City University has finished investigating this matter.
In the meantime, those who have condemned the Nobel laureate Sir Tim Hunt may wish to re-examine some of her previous statements about the affair.
Take, by way of a final example, an interview with the BBC on June 10, in which St Louis recalled that toast in Seoul: 'He just ploughed on for five to seven minutes, actually,' she said. 'It was really shocking. It was culturally insensitive and it was very sexist.'
Strangely, the passage from Sir Tim's speech that St Louis has so far made public is exactly 37 words long. It would take, at most, 20 seconds to recount.
So did Sir Tim really 'plough on' for five to seven minutes? And, if so, what did he say?
Why did she selectively quote just one statement from his toast? And how did such a remark end the 50-year career of a Nobel laureate?
Once more, readers must draw their own conclusions.

Quote  A leaked European Commission report has supported Sir Tim Smith's claims that apparently sexist comments (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-scientists-distract-men-fall-in-love-with-them-and-cry-when-criticised-says-nobel-prize-winner-10309125.html) about the "trouble with girls in science" were meant as a joke.
   The Nobel Prize laureate resigned from prestigious posts at University College London (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sir-tim-hunt-loses-university-job-after-comments-on-trouble-with-girls-in-laboratories-10312086.html), the Royal Society and European Research Council (ERC) amid outrage over his remarks earlier this month.
"Let me tell you about my trouble with girls," he said to the World Conference of Science Journalists in South Korea.
"Three things happen when they are in the lab: you fall in love with them, they fall in love with you, and when you criticise them they cry.
"Perhaps we should make separate labs for boys and girls?"

Outrage over the comments sparked the #distractinglysexy (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/distractinglysexy-female-scientists-mock-sir-tim-hunts-sexist-remarks-on-twitter-10313435.html) trend celebrating female scientists on Twitter and institutions Sir Tim worked with swiftly distanced themselves from him.
Within days, the 72-year-old had resigned from as Honorary Professor with the UCL Faculty of Life Sciences, the Royal Society's Biological Sciences Awards Committee and ERC.Read more: Richard Dawkins backs Sir Tim Hunt (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/richard-dawkins-demands-apology-from-sir-tim-hunts-critics-and-claims-leaked-transcript-shows-sexist-comments-were-lighthearted-banter-10341160.html)
Female professors call for 'fingerpointing' to stop (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/female-professors-call-for-fingerpointing-in-tim-hunt-sexism-row-to-stop-10333685.html)
Sir Tim Hunt says he has been 'hung out to dry' (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/sir-tim-hunt-says-he-is-finished-and-has-been-hung-out-to-dry-after-making-sexist-comments-10318685.html)But a leaked EU report seen by The Times (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/science/article4478368.ece) supports Sir Tim's claims that his remarks were an "idiotic joke" and not meant to be taken seriously.
A European Commission official who was at the lunch for women journalists and scientists offered a differing transcript from the account compiled by three reporters present.
The official included previously unreported comments that came directly after Sir Tim's controversial remarks, the Times reported.
He allegedly continued: "Now seriously, I'm impressed by the economic development of Korea.
"And women scientists played, without doubt an important role in it. Science needs women and you should do science despite all the obstacles, and despite monsters like me."

Sir Tim mentioned the second part of the comments in an interview prior to the leak, insisting that he had attempted to make the joke clear.
"The words 'now seriously' make it very clear that I was making a joke, albeit a very bad one, but they were not mentioned in the first reports and I was deluged with hate mail," he told The Observer. (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/20/sir-tim-hunt-gratitude-female-scientists-support-joke)
The development comes amid calls for Sir Tim to be reinstated to his posts from scientists, former colleagues and supporters including Professor Richard Dawkins (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/richard-dawkins-demands-apology-from-sir-tim-hunts-critics-and-claims-leaked-transcript-shows-sexist-comments-were-lighthearted-banter-10341160.html) and Brian Cox. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/brian-cox-says-tim-hunt-shouldnt-have-been-hounded-out-of-his-job-after-sexist-remarks-about-female-scientists-10323687.html)
He received the Nobel Price with two other researchers in 2001 for his work on the cell cycle, discovered the cyclin molecule and is credited for furthering the understanding of cancer.
A spokesperson for the European Commission told The Independent that the new leaked transcript forms part of a "mission report compiled by an official" and is not being treated as a verbatim transcript.
She would not comment on whether the authority would be considering reinstating Sir Tim to his post.

QuoteНовопазарска чаршија брујала је о њој када се пронела вест да се муфтија Муарем Зукорлић у Сарајеву оженио по други пут.
Муфтијин брак склопио је по исламским верским обредима тадашњи реис-ул-улема Исламске заједнице у Босни и Херцеговини Мустафа Церић. Седам година касније, 2012. године, када се муфтија Исламске заједнице у Србији кандидовао за председника републике, српски таблоиди питали су се хоће ли Србија добити две прве даме. Уз текст осванула је фотографија лепе, младе жене која седи поред муфтије Зурколића у непознатом угоститељском објекту. Данас, та лепа, млада жена, мајка троје деце и генерални менаџер Интернационалног универзитета у Новом Пазару, Елма Елфић Зукорлић, муфтијина друга жена, отворено за ,,Политику" каже да јој је требало времена и снаге да се навикне на коментаре средине и претресање њеног приватног живота у медијима.
– Међутим, када увидите да живимо у лицемерном свету где доминирају двоструки стандарди и када проанализирате животе управо тих лажних моралиста, схватите да сте ви само искрени и транспарентни, и напослетку, довољно храбри да живите свој живот – каже Елма Елфић Зурколић.
О Елми смо тада сазнали да потиче из познате новопазарске породице, као и да са децом живи у кући у центру Новог Пазара. Муфтијина прва жена, Умеја, коју је упознао за време студија у Јордану, живи одвојено са својом децом, такође у Новом Пазару. Ислам дозвољава верницима да имају више жена, под условом да претходног брачног друга материјално обезбеде и да од претходне супруге добију сагласност за нови брак. Разматрало се, међутим, у медијима, да ли је муфтија, оженивши богату новопазарску лепотицу прекршио верске прописе и да ли је за други брак имао сагласност прве супруге. Анализирало се не само по новинским ступцима, већ и у чаршијским причама, да ли је Зукорлић прекршио грађанске законе Републике Србије који забрањују полигамију. Један од матичара којег су новинари тада консултовали пресудио је да није, јер се венчао пред Богом, али не и пред државом. А шта је са оним неписаним, моралним законима?
– Ја сам верница и све своје одлуке преиспитујем кроз вертикалу која иде од мене према узвишеном Господару. Сходно томе, нисам имала никакву дилему. Наш брак се заснива на верско-шеријатским принципима и у том случају наравно да ни закон Републике Србије није прекршен. Има пуно личности на јавној сцени Србије, а и шире, о којима би требало расправљати да ли су прекршили тај исти закон. Али, медији су расправљали о муфтији, не и о њима – објашњава Елма Елфић Зукорлић.
Елма је по професији економиста. Завршила је Факултет за трговину и банкарство ,,Јанићије и Даница Карић", а мастер и докторске студије из области економских наука на Интернационалном универзитету у Новом Пазару. Од 2007. године предаје на овом универзитету, чији је председник њен супруг муфтија Зукорлић, а већ три године обавља дужност генералног менаџера ове високообразовне установе. У складу са својом вером, ова менаџерка носи хиџаб, мараму којом муслиманке покривају косу.
– Ја се са својим хиџабом осећам веома супериорном и доминантном. Хиџаб који носим није никакав израз женине потчињености или супериорности мушкарца над женом. Хиџаб је манифестација жениног духовног интегритета. Он је жени инспирација и гаранција духовног мира, спокоја и свеобухватног просперитета. Хиџаб је њен штит, посебно у данашњем свету у којем живимо. Статистика о злостављану жена је поражавајућа. У Канади на сваких шест минута буде силована једна жена, у Америци жена је претучена, у кући или ван ње на сваких 15 секунди, нажалост, примера има још много. Зато је хиџаб жени штит. А са друге стране представља и круну њеног индентитета – објашњава Елма Елфић Зукорлић.
Она додаје да Европа, иначе, нити жели нити има праву слику жене у исламу. Због тога је многима необично да жена са хиџабом буде менаџерка, али и да, са марамом или без ње, прихвати да буде – друга жена.
– У породици у којој сам рођена била сам третирана као принцеза. Љубав и подршка коју сам добијала од оца данас ме чине оваквом каква јесам. А могу рећи да такав статус имам данас и у браку. Јесте ли икад чули да се муслиманке организовано боре за своја права? Не. Зато што су жене у исламу задовољне, али Европа сматра да су заостале и потчињене јер се не уклапају у њихову перцепцију слободе. Док су се жене у Европи бориле за своја елементарна права, и тек их оствариле у другој половини 19. и почетком 20. века, жена у исламу је уживала у свим тим правима. Ислам је још пре 14 векова жени дао право на иметак, наследство, образовање, право да бира свог супруга, право на развод – напомиње Елма Елфић Зукорлић.
  Јелена Чалија   објављено: 28.06.2015.

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 29-06-2015, 15:31:20
Al to je sasvim druga rasprava.  :lol:

Quote from: mehoBoldovao sam interesantne delove

Quote from: Boban on 30-06-2015, 12:46:54
Gospode, da li si ti svoj nik dao D. na korišćenje?

Quote from: Dybuk on 30-06-2015, 12:48:01
:) Nego, zosko, kad ces da vratis ime, nekako mi neugodno u drustvu Gospoda?:lol:

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 30-06-2015, 11:38:50
Nisan još pogledao ali ne sumnjam da Džon Oliver ovo pretresa na interesantan način:


http://youtu.be/hmoAX9f6MOc (http://youtu.be/hmoAX9f6MOc)

Quote from: RedSonja on 30-06-2015, 13:28:37

daklem, ono što sam saznala iz videa je da sada definicija transrodne osobe nije nužno povezana sa seksualnom orijentacijom, seksualna orijentacija je ono što definiše koga voliš, a transrodnost ono kakvim se osećaš.

Quote from: RedSonja on 30-06-2015, 17:57:00

možda takvi testovi i postoje ne znam?

Quote from: Gospon1. jeste li bez razloga veseli?
2. jeste li bez razloga tuzni?
2a. mijenja li se to svakih nekoliko minuta?

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 29-06-2015, 15:15:46
Dobro, zna se da postojanje jedne nesreće nije razlog da se neko pogođen drugom nesrećom pokrije ušima i ćuti jer onda niko ne bi trebo ništa da zucne protiv Vučića/ Obame/ Putina dok se ne iskoreni spina bifida. Ali poenta koja čini mi se treba da bude napravljena je ta da je čovek ovde izgubio konkretan posao/ položaj na kome je konkretno doprinosio nekakvom društvu  (iako je već i zreo za penziju)  i bio meta javne poruge na ime izjave koja je nanela tom društvu veoma apstraktnu štetu a za koju sad vele da zapravo i nije čitava izjava i korišćena je baš da ilustruje štetu koju takav stav može da ima. Džastin Sako je ur-primer za ovo ali ona je makar svoju sarkastičnu izjavu tvitovala. Ovaj čovek, štagod da je izjavio, izjavio je uživo, negde a onda mu je medij koji prenosi informacije u samo 140 slova po komadu sahranio karijeru.

Quote from: Dybuk on 30-06-2015, 19:22:20
Kewl  xwink2

Quote from: RedSonja on 30-06-2015, 18:10:56
mehmete ovde se ne radi o testovima, nego o upornosti i ubedjivačkoj moći osobe koja hoće da promeni pol, odnosno o konačnoj reči PSIHIJATRA, a nigde se ne spominje neurolog.
+pitanje je koliko njih odluči to da obavi ovako, uvek dalje ostaje tajland.

Quote from: Dybuk on 30-06-2015, 22:29:59
Pa bih se slozila s Batom, osim dela sa gestapom :lol:

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 30-06-2015, 21:16:44

da uvek možeš ovako ili onako da se snađeš za Iran ili Tajland, ali imam utisak da ti misliš da ljudi jedno jutro ustanu i kažu "ubre, smorio sam se, idem na Tajland da mi ugrade vaginu" i završe to u roku od nedelju dana.
naravno, ali opet, mi nemamo TAJ identitetski problem pa, kako već rekoh, siti gladnima ne verujemo.

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 30-06-2015, 23:40:42
Ako smo rešili ove filozofske probleme, da takođe kažem da se nadam da ovo što Linkin priča o Sex Change Regretu ne shvatate ozbiljno pošto je to klasičan primer kako većinski diskurs ne želi da se uhvati u koštac sa pravim problemima vezanim za promenu pola (da je njena dostupnost u dobroj meri vezana za socijalne i ekonomske faktore, da ona ne rešava sve postojeće socijalne i ekonomske probleme koji su vezani za opšte stanje čoveka pa se postavlja pitanje njene isplativosti u određenim slučajevima itd.) pa izmišlja lažne: jedna od pet osoba koja promeni pol to posle (javno) zažali.

Ovo naprosto nije tačno i izmišljotina je kojom manipulišu kojekakve grupe koje smatraju da je promena pola nekakva ujdurma moderne dekadentne civilizacije. Studije koje su rađene ozbiljno udeo "sex change regret" slučajeva stavlja negde ispod jedne dvadesetine a ne jedne petine. Što i dalje nije zanemariva cifra, da se razumemo, ali je daleko manje alarmantna i ukazuje da bi trebalo poboljšati pre-op procedure a ne učiniti operativnu i hormonsku terapiju ekstravagantno nedostupnom da bismo zaštitili tu blesavu jednu petinu. 

Quote from: Linkin on 30-06-2015, 22:34:13

Quote from: Dybuk on 30-06-2015, 22:29:59
Pa bih se slozila s Batom, osim dela sa gestapom :lol:

I ja.

Quote from: Pizzobatto on 01-07-2015, 00:20:21
i to je nešto, ali vremenom ćete shvatiti čari gestapoa

Quote from: ridiculus on 01-07-2015, 00:59:08
Linkine, mnogo si mikroagresivan! ;)

Quote from: Linkin on 01-07-2015, 00:07:32

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 30-06-2015, 23:40:42
Ako smo rešili ove filozofske probleme, da takođe kažem da se nadam da ovo što Linkin priča o Sex Change Regretu ne shvatate ozbiljno pošto je to klasičan primer kako većinski diskurs ne želi da se uhvati u koštac sa pravim problemima vezanim za promenu pola (da je njena dostupnost u dobroj meri vezana za socijalne i ekonomske faktore, da ona ne rešava sve postojeće socijalne i ekonomske probleme koji su vezani za opšte stanje čoveka pa se postavlja pitanje njene isplativosti u određenim slučajevima itd.) pa izmišlja lažne: jedna od pet osoba koja promeni pol to posle (javno) zažali.

Ovo naprosto nije tačno i izmišljotina je kojom manipulišu kojekakve grupe koje smatraju da je promena pola nekakva ujdurma moderne dekadentne civilizacije. Studije koje su rađene ozbiljno udeo "sex change regret" slučajeva stavlja negde ispod jedne dvadesetine a ne jedne petine. Što i dalje nije zanemariva cifra, da se razumemo, ali je daleko manje alarmantna i ukazuje da bi trebalo poboljšati pre-op procedure a ne učiniti operativnu i hormonsku terapiju ekstravagantno nedostupnom da bismo zaštitili tu blesavu jednu petinu. 

Nadam se da je cenjeni britanski Gardijan koji tvrdi do 1/5 (a ne neki tamo anonimni Linkin koji, slažem se, možda čak izmišlja) dovoljno objektivan i respektabilan izvor za našeg Meha.  :lol:

Obratiti pažnju da tekst ne govori samo o samoubistvima post-operativnih trans seksualnih osoba, već i o samoubistvima koja se dešavaju ako do operacije ne dođe, a i toga je nažalost ogroman procenat. Dakle, obrni-okreni, ne valja to mnogo. Nije da sam neko ko ne želi da se uhvati u koštac s pravim problemima, već samo neko ko ne vidi neko posebito rešenje za tu situaciju ni tamo ni vamo. :(

Quote from: ridiculus on 01-07-2015, 02:46:40
RedSonja je tebe nesvesno nazvala imaginarnim, pa ja pitam da li je to mikroagresija?

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 01-07-2015, 06:50:12

Quote from: Linkin on 01-07-2015, 00:07:32

Quote from: Meho Krljic on 30-06-2015, 23:40:42
Ako smo rešili ove filozofske probleme, da takođe kažem da se nadam da ovo što Linkin priča o Sex Change Regretu ne shvatate ozbiljno pošto je to klasičan primer kako većinski diskurs ne želi da se uhvati u koštac sa pravim problemima vezanim za promenu pola (da je njena dostupnost u dobroj meri vezana za socijalne i ekonomske faktore, da ona ne rešava sve postojeće socijalne i ekonomske probleme koji su vezani za opšte stanje čoveka pa se postavlja pitanje njene isplativosti u određenim slučajevima itd.) pa izmišlja lažne: jedna od pet osoba koja promeni pol to posle (javno) zažali.

Ovo naprosto nije tačno i izmišljotina je kojom manipulišu kojekakve grupe koje smatraju da je promena pola nekakva ujdurma moderne dekadentne civilizacije. Studije koje su rađene ozbiljno udeo "sex change regret" slučajeva stavlja negde ispod jedne dvadesetine a ne jedne petine. Što i dalje nije zanemariva cifra, da se razumemo, ali je daleko manje alarmantna i ukazuje da bi trebalo poboljšati pre-op procedure a ne učiniti operativnu i hormonsku terapiju ekstravagantno nedostupnom da bismo zaštitili tu blesavu jednu petinu. 

Nadam se da je cenjeni britanski Gardijan koji tvrdi do 1/5 (a ne neki tamo anonimni Linkin koji, slažem se, možda čak izmišlja) dovoljno objektivan i respektabilan izvor za našeg Meha.  :lol:

Obratiti pažnju da tekst ne govori samo o samoubistvima post-operativnih trans seksualnih osoba, već i o samoubistvima koja se dešavaju ako do operacije ne dođe, a i toga je nažalost ogroman procenat. Dakle, obrni-okreni, ne valja to mnogo. Nije da sam neko ko ne želi da se uhvati u koštac s pravim problemima, već samo neko ko ne vidi neko posebito rešenje za tu situaciju ni tamo ni vamo. :(

Joj, ma nemojmo. Mislim, svaka čast Gardijanu, ali JEDNA studija rađena na uzorku od sto slučajeva se navodi u tekstu, ona ne govori to što u naslovu piše  a statistika jedan od pet se "citira" iz nekih drugih studija koje se niti imenuju niti linkuju (istraživanja iz SAD i Holandje, veli tekst, ne navodeći ni godine ni imena) pa na kraju jedan lekar kaže da jedna petina pokuša samoubistvo ne navodeći da je to zbog "sex change regreta" već pominjuće osobe kojima nije dat tretman, dakle nešto baš suprotno.

Quote from: Dybuk on 01-07-2015, 12:18:21
Ne znam da l pol mozes menjati ko carape, s rizikom da zvucim neosetljivo - svakako sam neupucena, promene su ionako kozmeticke a ne funkcionalne, kad se vec udje u transformaciju.

Quote from: ridiculus on 01-07-2015, 02:46:40
Eh, sad mi laskaš bez razloga. Borba za prava imaginarnih* je dobra ideja, istina - tu bih čak napustio umišljenu neutralnost - ali, nažalost :cry:, ne radi se o meni. RedSonja je tebe nesvesno nazvala imaginarnim, pa ja pitam da li je to mikroagresija? Približava se Miki Maus... sve sa war rigom. 8)

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